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Sarvattsorry for the build failure mail spam, obviously only test building on i386 before uploading to the backports ppa's isn't enough04:41
brycehSarvatt, hey do you know why that xrecord crash bug came to be?  did chase's earlier xrecord fix expose the bug or something?05:59
brycehI'm going through all the recent X crash reports and it appears like 80% of them at least are dupes of this one05:59
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brycehhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/774978/comments/3808:30
ubot4Launchpad bug 774978 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "xserver crashes in RecordAReply when XRecord is enabled in syndaemon (affects: 188) (dups: 34) (heat: 640)" [Undecided,Fix committed]08:30
brycehcnd, Sarvatt, ^^ please review, you might have more to add to the story08:42
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braintorchHello. Will there be 270.41.19 nvidia driver for lucid in ubuntu-x repo? Somewhat nasty bug affecting flash video playing was fixed in this version.10:15
brycehbraintorch, probably in xorg-edgers, maybe in x-updates.  probably not in natty-updates tho.10:19
braintorchI see it was packaged for oneric and for natty in x-updates but not for maveric or lucid. That's why I interested.10:28
jussitjaalton: bah, the original bug I mentioned (about the screen not coming back from sleep) is still there. I guess I didnt wait long enough last time :/10:35
jussialso, saving the default settings in kubuntu doesnt actually save it, it always reboots with the same settings.10:36
tjaaltonjussi: ok, try with .39-rc3 to see if it's fixed there12:00
cndbryceh, wow, that XRecord stuff looks like a festering wound15:45
cndgood analysis in the bug comment :)15:45
cndso are we going to patch up g-s-d to not use -R?15:45
jcristaudo we enable record by default?15:46
jcristaumaybe that's not such a great idea...15:47
cndjcristau, apparently g-s-d now tells syndaemon to use XRecord instead of polling the keyboard state15:47
jcristaurecord sounds like it makes keyloggers kind of trivial15:48
cndheh15:50
Sarvattsyndaemon itself uses record by default if its built with support for it15:52
Sarvatt-R doesn't have any affect in that case :(15:52
Sarvattbryceh: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~sarvatt/sandybridge-10.04-live/ \o/15:56
tjaaltonyeah, I tested that and it worked here too16:00
tjaaltonglxgears acted funny though16:01
tjaaltonwhen trying to move the window16:01
Sarvattstutters?16:03
Sarvattyou should see it with current git if you think thats bad, at least the gears dont flash teal and yellow while it happens16:04
tjaaltonheh ok16:05
Sarvatttjaalton: oh you're on a GT1, i've got to try it out on that16:05
Sarvattwouldn't be surprised if mesa 7.10.2 is messed up there16:05
Sarvatttjaalton: btw you probably want to use i915.semaphores=1 on that thing..16:08
Sarvattit'll fix the stuttering if thats the problem you had16:09
tjaaltonseems to be on natty too16:09
tjaaltonwhich is hardly surprising16:10
Sarvatthttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/1117258/VID_20110608_111152.m4v16:13
Sarvatttjaalton: try vblank_mode=0 glxgears if you want some real fun16:15
tjaaltonriight, ~1000 fps, though it looks like ~216:21
Sarvattcheck dmesg16:22
tjaaltonheh16:23
Sarvattricotz: i dont think the 3.0 kernel is going to work without a module-init-tools update too so probably not a good idea to copy that to edgers right away16:26
ricotzSarvatt, ok, so the updated module-init-tools package from oneiric isnt working yet? havent tried to building 3.0 myself yet16:36
ricotzSarvatt, looks like the m-i-t update works - ppa:apw/red16:38
Sarvattcool, looks like it went into oneiric directly this morning too16:38
Sarvatthttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-June/002607.html16:39
ricotz;)16:39
apwSarvatt, we are still sorting out the numbering... the last bits are being fixed now16:39
apwbe careful about uploading the meta to the xorg-edgers without it being fixed16:40
* Sarvatt nods16:40
ricotzthere will be no meta in edgers anyway16:40
Sarvatthaven't been putting meta's in edgers as of yet16:40
apwwe are hedging our bets right now as to whether to use 3.0 or 3.0.0 for sanity16:40
apwand so uploading 3.0 kernel with a 3,0,0 meta as unexpectedly we can switch either way that way going forward16:40
Sarvatti'm probably a little too cautious about keeping things in there stable :P16:41
ricotzapw, you are doing an abi bump for stable releases anyway, so perhaps using the stable release version as base?16:41
apwricotz, yeah we simply hedging.  i think we'd like to call it 3.0 but module-init-tools is just the tip of the iceberg on whats fooked by the number change16:42
ricotzthis would mean using 3.0.0, 3.0.1, ...16:42
apwps all gets angry too16:42
apwricotz, yet a third option indeed16:42
ricotzso 3.0.0-0.1, {stable version}-{ubuntu-revision}16:43
ricotzjust an idea ;)16:44
apwthat does force us to bump abi whenever we take stable which we don't currently always do16:44
Sarvattugh16:44
ricotzapw, ok, i though it is needed quite everytime16:44
apwi know, which is why we are hedging :)16:44
apwricotz, there have been a number of .7 is huge, .8 is one patch to unbreak .7 which is not a bumper16:45
ricotzalright16:45
Sarvattit would be nice to have the version number reflect reality even though thats a pain in the butt. i constantly get asked by upstreams what 2.6.38-7 maps to for example :P16:47
ricotzSarvatt, +1, right, using the actual full upstream version in some kind would be nice16:56
jcristauSarvatt: it's never going to map exactly to an upstream version anyway16:58
jcristaueach distro kernel is patch in its own spethial way16:58
jcristau*patched16:58
Sarvattsheesh, mesa tarball is bigger than it was with demos in it now17:09
ricotzSarvatt, switching to 3.0 and using bz2 might be nice ;)17:17
cndbryceh, Sarvatt: I'm trying out oneiric, but every time I log in I get "Oh no! something wrong has happened." message20:43
cnddo you know how to get around that?20:43
Sarvattcnd: i've never even heard of that dialog20:48
Sarvatthmm20:48
cndit's this really terrible window that comes up20:49
Sarvattapparently its a gnome 3 one20:49
cndthere's no information20:49
cndI have no clue what to do to debug it20:49
cnd0 info20:49
cndI understand the point, but really it's more aggravating than anything20:49
Sarvattlooks like it's a gnome-menus problem when it happened in fedora20:50
cndI think it manifests from many different error paths...20:51
cndI just want to get behind it20:51
cndI can relaunch services and stuff if I need20:51
cndand it shouldn't be happening when I try a non-gnome 3 session20:51
brycehI haven't ever seen that either20:54
Sarvatti think this is the longest i've ever gone without updating to the devel release on all any of my systems, not looking forward to gnome 3 pain..21:00
Sarvattbut i guess its time, starting an upgrade21:00
Sarvattcnd: 21:01
SarvattJun 02 06:24:07 <chrisccoulson>i did try gnome-shell from our archive last night21:01
SarvattJun 03 03:37:15 <chrisccoulson>so, this silly window that takes up my entire screen when i dock my laptop,and shows a sad face telling me i need to log out is actually from gnome-session21:01
SarvattJun 03 04:00:27 <seb128>chrisccoulson, by reading gnome-session code that screen is displayed when the session fails to respawn something that quited21:01
SarvattJun 03 04:03:35 <seb128>run gnome-session --debug maybe and dock your laptop and look at the session log21:01
chrisccoulsonwe really need to kill that error, it's totally ridiculous21:01
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cndyeah21:03
cndSarvatt, thanks for digging that up!21:03
cndoh wait21:04
cndI get that error at login21:04
cndhow do I enable debug for gnome-session like that?21:04
Sarvattis there nothing that stands out in ~/.xsession-errors?21:07
cndSarvatt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/622020/21:08
cnddoesn't look like it :(21:08
Sarvatti'm seriously going to regret this upgrade tomorrow no doubt :)21:13
cndheh21:17
cndI wonder if it's possible to use the natty gnome-session21:18
cndI was able to downgrade21:23
cndlets see if it helps21:24
cndalright, progress21:25
cndbut I don't have a window decorator...21:25
pentarexhey guys I'm having some issue with HP G62 with two videocards, INTEL and ATI RADEON 5470, I've installed kubuntu 11.04 and now I cant log in - I see the log in sign, then the screen goes black(blank) and the fan goes off22:49
pentarexcan anyone help me please22:49
Sarvattbryceh, RAOF: they snuck up like ninjas when we were drinking :P http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/17103699_kzzLF6/1/1296062040_6SsNNkg#1296215224_r26Dfnz23:23
RAOFSarvatt: Yeah, I know.  I look plenty stupid in the UDS photo's I've found of myself :)23:51

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