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sakhimornings07:28
Kilosmorning superfly and others09:20
KilosMaaz, coffee on09:20
* Maaz starts grinding coffee09:20
superflymorning Kilos09:22
superflyMaaz: coffee please09:22
Maazsuperfly: Okay09:22
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and superfly!09:24
KilosMaaz, ty09:27
MaazEnjoy Kilos09:27
Kiloshi |3o|3 10:23
|3o|3Sup Kilos10:23
Kilossame old same old10:23
|3o|3Yeah...10:24
|3o|3same old is same old.10:24
Kiloslol10:24
superflyold same is old same10:51
superfly:-P10:51
Kilosjust a different day10:51
Kilosi just deleted 3 of the 4 /swaps. If i missing for a while i messed up again11:38
Kilosw00t11:58
Kilosonly one swap partition and also removed the last 2 maverick installs that i used to get grub fixed all on gparted11:59
Kilosthen ran sudo update-grub and here we go11:59
Kilostook a while but getting there12:00
KilosMaaz, middagete12:04
MaazTuis gemaakde bees en groente sop met lekker vars brood12:04
Kilosyum yum12:05
sakhihttp://ipv6-test.com12:17
Kiloshi sakhi 12:18
sakhihi Kilos how is it going?12:18
Kiloswell ty sakhi  and you?12:18
sakhigood thanks.12:18
superflyI need to get my home network running IPv612:29
tumbleweedis the tenet 6to4 relay still borked?12:45
tumbleweedmiredo  works pretty well, if slow12:46
afrodeityanybody know where to get the organic beer in ct?15:59
KilosMaaz, whats for supper17:12
MaazSteak , egg and chips. And a free Coke17:12
Kiloshmm too cold for coke17:13
KilosMaaz, what else17:13
MaazKilos: What?17:13
Kilosgrrr17:13
Kiloshi kingmilo 17:13
kingmilohowzit17:14
Kiloshavent see you before. welcome to ubuntu-za17:14
kingmiloyea thanks man17:15
kingmiloI was thinking of setting up a LoCo for za and then found one ;)17:16
Kilosthere are a few i think17:16
kingmilohow active is this one, the website doesnt seem to be kept up to date?17:17
Kilosdepends how busy the guys are at work17:17
kingmiloare there any people here who develop for ubuntu?17:17
Kilossometimes very busy17:17
Kilosmethinks tumbleweed  does17:18
kingmiloYup for sure :) I know how it is.. .17:18
Kilosand cocooncrash  is the expert on pc crashes17:18
kingmiloAlright. Anybody here looking after big Ubuntu installations?17:19
Kiloskingmilo, you will need to hang on for the sysadmin guys they will know more17:20
Kilosand superfly 17:20
Kilosi just say hi to new peeps17:20
Kiloslol17:21
kingmiloha ha alright. thanks boss.17:21
Kilosyw17:21
Kiloshavva cuppa cybercoffee so long17:21
KilosMaaz, coffee on17:22
* Maaz starts grinding coffee17:22
superflydepends on what you mean by "develop for Ubuntu"17:22
KilosMaaz, coffee for all17:22
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already17:22
kingmilosuperfly, contribute to an official package shipped with Ubuntu17:23
superflynot yet17:23
superflyhoping to get my app into Debian, though probably not in time for the next release of Ubuntu17:23
kingmilook superfly 17:23
kingmiloI am interested in finding out if anybody in SA runs large Ubuntu installations for corporates, LTSP or other.17:24
superflythat depends on your definition of "large Ubuntu installations"17:26
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!17:26
superflyare you talking server or desktop? managed or unmanaged?17:26
KilosMaaz, thanks man17:26
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)17:26
tumbleweedkingmilo: I'm an Ubuntu developer. highvoltage too.17:26
superflyand what your definition of "large" is as well17:27
kingmiloManaged server. I am in the business of migrating corporates from Microsoft TS to Ubuntu TS, currently I manage quite a few installations, probably +- 1000 desktops and I am curious to find out if anybody else in SA is involved in the same thing.17:27
* tumbleweed doesn't know of anyone doing things like that, but I probably wouldn't17:27
tumbleweedhighvoltage used to work in that area, you can ask him17:28
kingmiloalright thanks. Will be nice to share experiences.17:28
tumbleweedsuperfly: so how are our grand plans to pull you in going? :)17:29
kingmilotumbleweed, what package/s do you contribute towards?17:29
superflytumbleweed: I've been plagued by sickness, computer hardware problems, and commercial work17:30
superflyI need another one of me just to be able to handle the work I'm currently doing!17:30
tumbleweedkingmilo: mostly python stuff (mostly in Debian: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=stefanor ), and in Ubuntu I work on developer tools, helping new developers, and MOTU stuff17:30
tumbleweedsuperfly: heh, yeah we'd all love one of those17:31
tumbleweedkingmilo: if you'd like to help out, we could always use more people in MOTU17:31
kingmilotumbleweed, ok nice.17:31
kingmilotumbleweed, I would like to help out where I can, at the moment I am setting up an opensource company that will provide opensource solutions/services to the south african business sector. I am also looking into setting up a full local software mirror, similiar to mirror.ac.za, we could always do with more.17:33
kingmiloAnd then I would like to lend my python skills to a project within ubuntu.17:34
tumbleweedubuntu uses a lot of python17:34
* tumbleweed doesn't know if ZA needs more mirrors, but something I'd like to see is a security.debian.org in ZA17:34
kingmiloI think we could do with more, there are some repositories not available on our mirrors and the popular mirrors are IS and university driven none really by a independent NPO17:37
kingmiloWhat is the status of this loCo, how are you guys doing in SA, what do you guys do, whats this loCo all about17:39
tumbleweedyes, mirror.ac.za isn't as reliable as it could be. But they have more than enough bandwith17:39
tumbleweedit's not like the US where there isn't a single mirror that can take the load for the country17:39
tumbleweedthe loco isn't doing too much, basically just release parties and some ubuntu hours17:41
tumbleweedI'll try and make the next global jam happen again (we missed the last one)17:42
kingmiloalright, are you in charge tumbleweed ? Id like to help where/if I can to get it a more active if possible.17:44
* tumbleweed is not incharge17:44
marcogkingmilo: where are you based?17:44
kingmiloCape town marcog 17:45
tumbleweedkingmilo: like any community, it needs people to take initiative and organise things. The team contacts (who are about as in charge as you get) can't do everything and we shouldn't expect them too17:45
superflykingmilo: no one is in charge... it's a "do-ocracy"17:45
marcogtumbleweed: has michiel spoken to you yet about doing some open source dev?17:45
tumbleweedmarcog: yes17:46
kingmiloalright.17:46
marcogkingmilo: same as me and tumbleweed :)17:46
tumbleweedcape town is pretty active for open source, compared to the rest of the country17:46
marcogtumbleweed: cool, maybe also see if kieren is interested? i know he's been looking hard for an internship even after #btr didn't get him one and he hasn't been successful yet17:47
kingmilomarcog nice :)17:47
kingmiloI wonder how many people in this channel I have probably met.17:48
kingmilois there anybody in this LoCo who is without employment ?17:49
marcogquite a few of us are still studying17:49
marcogif that counts17:49
kingmiloAhh ok. Im probably the grampa here then at 3117:50
Kiloshehe17:50
marcogKilos will disagree :P17:51
Kilosand inetpro  and superfly i think17:51
kingmiloha ha ok17:51
tumbleweedkingmilo: that doesn't put you that much older than marcog and me17:52
kingmiloalright I dont feel too bad then.17:53
kingmiloGents it's been real. I will pop in more often and see where i can get involved. Thanks for answering all my random questions. cheers.17:53
kbmonkeyweee!18:44
Kiloslo kbmonkey 19:34
kbmonkeylo Kilos 19:34
kbmonkeykoud!19:40
Kilosbaie19:40
nuvolarialoha19:42
nuvolarinaand oom Kilos , kbmonkey 19:42
Kilosnaand nuvolari 19:43
kbmonkeyhello hello nuvolari :)19:43
Kiloswens ek was daare by julle nou19:43
Kilosvrek koud jier19:43
nuvolari:P ja is lekker hier oom 19:43
nuvolarikoud genoeg vir 'n baadjie, maar warm genoeg om nie te dood van die koue nie19:43
Kiloslol19:43
nuvolarimy inbox is a disgrace. 75 unread emails.19:45
Kiloslol19:45
kbmonkeythat's when you start killing off mailing lists lol19:46
nuvolarikbmonkey: hmm, that's excluding my mailing lists and other email subscriptions 19:46
nuvolariok, some of them don't have filters yet19:47
kbmonkeyja nee info overload is n probleem partykeer ;P19:47
nuvolaridan praat ek nog nie van twitter nie.19:47
* nuvolari knip sy sim-kaart op19:48
getackEvening all20:33
kbmonkeyevening getack 20:34
kbmonkeysay which video editor actually works? :p20:34
getackDoing well?20:34
getackAdobe Premiere Pro :-/20:34
kbmonkey*nervous laugh*20:34
getack:-) And then It only works some of the time.20:35
kbmonkeyyes fine getack and you?20:36
getackIm well thanks. Just rather cold...20:36
getackThe clothing companies should invent a keyboard friendly glove.20:37
kbmonkeyyeah something like theperegrine!20:39
kbmonkeygoogle that ;D20:39
getackw.a.n.t 0_o20:40
kbmonkeyI cant find a working video editor :( awe shucks20:41
kbmonkeythe _one_ area of linux apps in serious want20:41
getackagreed. What is it that you want?20:41
getackto do20:41
kbmonkeyI mean blender can be used for video editing but I cant learn that all just to make a quick video20:42
getackBlender for video editing?! That's like using a spade to stir your coffee...20:44
getackWhat's wrong with the default one? (not that I used it before)20:44
Kilosnight all sleep tight\21:11
Symmetrialo all21:55
kbmonkeygreets21:56
Symmetriaheh, afrinic policy meetings today were... crazy 22:00
kbmonkeysay do you know anyhow on converting videos with ffmep Symmetria ?22:01
kbmonkey*ffmpeg22:01
Symmetria*HRM* Ive done it before but its been 2 long to remeber any details22:03
kbmonkeytrying to edit some videos together, cannot find an editor that works. I suspect the videos need rencoding. *headaches*22:04
tumbleweedkbmonkey: kdenlive is supposed to be good. pitivi can work with everything, but pretty flaky. people are saying good things about openshot22:08
kbmonkeyopenmovieeditor works but its playback function doesnt work so its like editing blind :p22:09
kbmonkeyI'll try those other two thank tumbleweed :)22:10
Symmetriaheh22:18
Symmetriamy mind is still spinning from the grilling I took at this meeting today22:18
Symmetriatook an hour of solid questions from a very riled up audience22:19
kbmonkeydoesn't sound like my cup of tea ;P22:27
Symmetriaheh it was necessary22:28
SymmetriaI had to get the audience angry and worked up and pissed off 22:28
Symmetriabecause it was the only way to get the discussion going22:28
Symmetriaand it was the only way to give me an opening to slam them for general apathy 22:28
Symmetriaso I took the abuse for an hour, and then turned the tables on them, HARD 22:28
Symmetriaand it worked22:29
Symmetria(they actually APPLAUDED afterwards, I thought i was gonna get stabbed hahaha)22:29
kbmonkeywhoa22:30
Symmetriaheh, was a risky move 22:31
Symmetriabut *shrug* it needed tio be done22:31
Symmetriabut to deliberately set myself up for an hour of grilling in order to do that, was pretty scary22:31
Symmetriawhen you stand up and deliberately rile up a room of 150 people to the point where people are chewing nails because of what you've said, just to prove a point, lol, I was kinda terrified walking up there knowing what I had planned22:32
Symmetriaheh, social engineering on a grand and very scary scale for high stakes22:32
kbmonkeythanks tumbleweed it looks like pitivi is a winner :)22:35
tumbleweedkbmonkey: cool22:42
kbmonkeyfunnily, some videos were taken sideways, so I use mencoder to transpose then 90 deg CCW, but the result is not usable in the editor :p22:43
kbmonkeyooh well, lets make a sideways video then :022:44
KerberoSymmetria: so what did you get done?23:06
Kerberowill it be in the newspaper tomorrow? :P23:08

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