[00:01] <ActionParsnip> atxq: the link explains it, its why I added it.....
[00:04] <atxq> thanks for the information; first time I had an major issues with ubuntu
[00:10] <daviddoria> I see some instructions for upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[00:10] <daviddoria> but I am on 10.04 (or something like that), can I still upgrade?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> daviddoria: you will need to upgrade to Maverick first
[00:11] <beauburrier> \join #digiyou
[00:13] <jfe> ActionParsnip: USB storage is enabled
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> jfe: then run:  dmesg | tail     after you enable it, the output should give clues
[00:14] <borgin> hi! Does anyone know if the memory leak is fixed in vlc 1.1.10?
[00:14] <daviddoria> wow these instructions are excellent
[00:15] <daviddoria> if it works as well as it seems like it is going to, kudos to ubuntu!
[00:15] <Raikia> Thus is ubuntu, daviddoria.  Customizability sacrificed for simplicity.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Raikia: pretty customizable here dude
[00:16] <Raikia> ActionParsnip: Unity is unnaturally uncustomizable.  Thats what I'm referring to.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Raikia: you don't have to use Unity, you don't even have to use gnome....
[00:18] <daviddoria> yea unity seems like a huge switch that not everyone was on board with
[00:19] <Raikia> ActionParsnip: I know. Thats why I'm not :-P.  I don't like how Ubuntu forces you to have Evolution, Empathy, etc integrated into gnome with no alternative.  I have plenty of experience, personally, so I am able to switch what I want (running a modified version of gnome 2), but its a pain with new releases
[00:19] <Raikia> Don't get me wrong, I like Ubuntu.  I just disagree with a lot of the design decisions made.
[00:19] <Raikia> If I didn't like it, I wouldn't be in here (or running it, for that matter) :-P
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Raikia: they don't force you to use anything, You can use thunderbird, kmail, sylpeed, clawsmail to replace evolution
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Raikia: you can use pidgin or any of the other chat clients to chat with, you don't have to use empathy at all
[00:21] <gholen-a> Can anyone help me with a bluetoothproblem?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> gholen-a: what's up dude
[00:21] <Raikia> ActionParsnip: It is nearly impossible to completely remove evolution and empathy's the integration with gnome.  Even if you get the notifications out (which isn't hard), it leaves messy remains and hurts the indicator applet's speed
[00:22] <gholen-a> I have a cheap Bluetoothmose, and have it connected to my eee. Wehn i sleepmode or so, my mouse disconnects, and cannot REconnect. How do I prevent that from happening (tutchpad is not working).
[00:22] <Raikia> ActionParsnip: Obviously it is possible (hence what I have done on my computer), but its a complete pain, especially when updating just makes everything go back to the way it was
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Raikia: you can remove empathy entirely, you need to keep evolution-data-server-common but if you tell it not to run, the data simply sits there doing nothing at all
[00:23] <daviddoria> uh oh, "Could not calculate the upgrade - trying to install blacklisted version 'blcr-dkms_0.8.2-13"
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Raikia: the OS is still incredibly customizable, which you said it  isn't
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> gholen-a: sounds like you need a wake up script to rmmod then modprobe the relevant module so that the bluetooth wakes up too
[00:26] <gholen-a> ActionParsnip: I was thinking the same, but how do I write it? I want the mouse to be able to wake the computer.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> gholen-a: not sure there, when the system sleeps it seems to sleep the bluetooth which is the reciever for the mouse
[00:27] <gholen-a> scenario: I want to leave the mashine on, on batterypower, and when I come back and jiggle the mouse, I wanna make it understand that "oh, I'm on again".
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> gholen-a: should get the bluetooth working after hibernate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1387211
[00:28] <gholen-a> Alternative: Press some keyboardcommand and connect the mouse.
[00:28] <daviddoria> I knew it was too good to be true :(
[00:28] <Falterego> Sup folks
[00:29] <gholen-a> ActionParsnip: Your a hero!
[00:29] <Falterego> Ultimate edition 2.9 FTW
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Falterego: ultimate is offtopic here
[00:30] <Falterego> Lol aight, quick question, where is the "close laptop lid and do nothing" setting?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Falterego: your OS isn't supported here
[00:30] <Falterego> -_-.
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate
[00:31] <[an]droidman> lol
[00:32] <preecher> i got a new modem yesterday(actiontec-thru my telephone co) and im using a linksys router--everything seems fine with the exception i cant log onto freenode---strange as it sounds i can get on dalnet though---any suggestions (i'm on a neighbours wireless now)
[00:32] <[an]droidman> no channel for ultimate edition
[00:32] <Belias>  making a rubic's cube game , http://www.qemum.org/Rubik7.png , want to change the name of Rubic's cube, since it is a trade mark, can you suggest a name?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> [an]droidman: who cares ;)
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Belias: gnubik
[00:32] <[an]droidman> Belias: ubiks cube
[00:32] <Belias> ActionParsnip: hehe
[00:32] <Falterego> There is no channel where i can get ultimate edition help? isnt it pretty much the same?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Falterego: see ubottu above
[00:33] <Belias> using Blender, let's say Blubic's cube
[00:33] <Belias> lame
[00:33] <OerHeks> Belias it is offtopic, how about TINARC ( this is not a Rubiks Cube )
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Falterego: none of the million ubuntu spinoffs are supported here, this is ubntu support only
[00:34] <[an]droidman> you can try -offtopic
[00:34] <Falterego> Spin off? Offensive Much? Ultimate Edition is Great.
[00:35] <Falterego> I also have 11.04 running alongside this and windows 7.
[00:35] <Falterego> 11.04.. dissapointment :S But still 100 times better than windows 7
[00:35] <mic99> hey, can someone help me - i have a problem, im using some appls - thru wine - and they dont want to hide themselfs in the tray - they did before i did log off from my os - i cant reboot - my laptop is not working properly - is there anything that i can restart / do to make it to work again? im suing ubuntu 10.10 x86-64bit
[00:36] <csills> I have not tried it yet
[00:36] <csills> How is that new Unity Interface?
[00:36] <Guinness2702> I cannot resolve hostnames (e.g. ping www.google.com returns an "unknown host" message).  I have my nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf, but doesn't appear to attempt to connect to them (nothing appears in a tcpdump) - why would it ignore resolv.conf?
[00:36] <Falterego> the unity is quite good
[00:36] <Falterego> It takes a while to get used to
[00:36] <csills> better than Gnome 3?
[00:36] <wolfdraco> Hello, i am completely new to IRC and could use a little primer
[00:37] <Falterego> Well, two different things ur comparing there
[00:37] <Jeruvy> Guinness2702: can you reach the nameservers and are they ok?  (are they resolving..)
[00:37] <csills> ok  lol   Just looking for opinions
[00:37] <Falterego> I suggest just trying it first (11.04) then installing it if you like it
[00:37] <szal> Falterego: #ultimateedition <- if there's no one there, that's not our fault ;)
[00:38] <Guinness2702> Jeruvy, hmm, ping <nameserver> gives me network unreachable
[00:38] <Guinness2702> odd, 'cus I'm sshed in
[00:38] <csills> I am still running the 10.04 LTS
[00:38] <Guinness2702> hmm, do I have a gateway
[00:38] <Falterego> Ever Tried UE 2.9?
[00:38] <Falterego> good stuff man serious.
[00:39] <hiexpo> csills, stay with 10.04 lts you are better off
[00:39] <csills> ok I will make a live Cd
[00:39] <hmuller> Any Marylanders present?
[00:39] <Jeruvy> Guinness2702: did you try by ip also?
[00:39] <csills> Thanks
[00:39] <jonesst1> guiness2702 route -n shows a gateway?
[00:39] <wildgoose> Falterego, Quit trolling.
[00:40] <Falterego> there is a difference between trolling and promoting good software.
[00:40] <jonesst1> no there is not
[00:40] <Falterego> yes there is
[00:40] <wildgoose> Falterego, Do it somewhere else
[00:40] <Guinness2702> Jeruvy, Cool, I screwed up my /etc/network/interfaces - forgot to add a gateway :D :D - thanks tho', would never have thought to ping the nameserver lol
[00:40] <szal> Falterego: off-topic is off-topic, so quit it
[00:40] <mic99> anyone could help me out? with that tray? im quite desperate - it should start work again after i reboot - but it takes 2hours to launch my laptop - need to heat it every time i want to boot it - thanks to bugged nvidia chip - soon be buying new but this need to do some more work...
[00:40] <Jeruvy> Guinness2702: glad you got it.
[00:40] <mic99> hey, can someone help me - i have a problem, im using some appls - thru wine - and they dont want to hide themselfs in the tray - they did before i did log off from my os - i cant reboot - my laptop is not working properly - is there anything that i can restart / do to make it to work again? im suing ubuntu 10.10 x86-64bit
[00:41] <Falterego> alright princesses.
[00:44] <csills> Gnight all   cya guys later
[00:45] <mic99> i only log off from my os - it makes ram come back etc. - does not require turn off pc - i cant reboot after last log off that thing happen - cant .put wine apps in the tray
[00:45] <Guinness2702> next: I can't start gdm - the Xorg log says failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.  I already installed package nvidia-current.  anything else I have to get or do?
[00:47] <Karen_m> i'm trying to follow a guide that calls for 'grub' but it doesn't exist anymore, it's all grub-*
[00:47] <Karen_m> what app should i be looking for?
[00:49] <hmuller> Karen_m, what's the link to the guide you are following
[00:49] <Belias> again
[00:49] <Belias> making a rubic's cube game , http://www.qemum.org/Rubik7.png , want to change the name of Rubic's cube, since it is a trade mark, can you suggest a name?
[00:50] <Karen_m> http://tuxtweaks.com/2009/05/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-ubuntu-freedos/
[00:50] <hmuller> Rubique's Qube?
[00:50] <Karen_m> i'm going to just use unetbootin as i see it supports freedos anywyas :)
[00:53] <hmuller> Karen_m, it's been awhile since I've used grub, you are right grub2 changes things up a bit
[00:53] <jshriver> greetings what is the package name for mysql-server?  all I've found is a cluster sderver
[00:53] <FloatingGoat> do you think canonical could give me CD's that I could distribute through t my town?
[00:54] <Belias> hmuller: nice one
[00:54] <Ubulindy> mic99 you should be able to go to wine in the menu list, scroll to the apps, find the "native" icons, do a right click and "add this launcher to the panel"
[00:54] <jayer89> can anyone help me?????
[00:54] <hmuller> Karen_m, do you wish to boot a DOS iso image?
[00:54] <xangua> FloatingGoat: you can download it from ubuntu.com and make them yourself ;) also can buy ubuntu cd's on the canonical store
[00:54] <Karen_m> yes, trying to do my bios on an old computer :)
[00:54] <jshriver> is mysql-server borked in 11?
[00:55] <jshriver> dpkg -L mysql-server and mysql-common yields crap.
[00:55] <hmuller> Karen_m, I'll put something on pastebin for you ... give me a minute or two
[00:55] <jayer89> CAN ANYONE HELP ME ??????????????????
[00:55] <widewake> hi, my computer janitor is broken,  when launched under packages and other its just blank
[00:55] <FloatingGoat> xangua: I want it to be as professional as possible though, and the ammount of CD's that I would need would be a heck of a lot throught the store.
[00:56] <widewake> jayer just ask the question and usualy you will get a response
[00:56] <xangua> !ask | jayer89 , and drop the Caps
[00:56] <tensorpudding> jshriver: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=natty&searchon=names&keywords=mysql would suggest not
[00:57] <widewake> i have reinstalled my computer janitor and it seems to be broken, has anyone ran into this problem befor? I am getting no options to do anything with computer janitor
[00:57] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys how do i get the side bar on new ubuntu release to auto hide even if i dont have a window up full screen ... would like to free up some of my window space...
[00:57] <jayer89> when i install ubuntu 11.04 it goes either into the command line or it misses out loads of stuff or summit is worng can anyone help me with this
[00:57] <widewake> Cpt_Zyph, Right click side bar, options, autohide
[00:57] <Karen_m> ty
[00:57] <widewake> np
[00:58] <Cpt_Zyph> i dont get such options when i right click the new launcher bar
[00:58] <kielanmatt> hi all, I am experiencing a problem with Banshee... I have copied/imported all mp3s and m4as from my ipod to my Music folder and they play fine, however their bitrate and duration and Mime/Type is not displayed in the columns
[00:58] <kielanmatt> and these are the tracks that dont want to sync back onto the ipod when I tell banshee to sync the whole library
[00:58] <widewake> Cpt_Zyph,  oh, than i cant help you there sorry, however keep askin people will now
[00:58] <kielanmatt> any causes?
[00:58] <widewake> it seems that not many helpers are in at the moment
[00:58] <widewake> ops n suchh
[00:59] <Cpt_Zyph> widewake are you talking about the new launcher bar on the left side3 of the screen .. or just the old style bars??
[00:59] <tensorpudding> Cpt_Zyph: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[00:59] <widewake> Cpt_Zyph,  im talking about the top launcher bar? what version are you using?
[00:59] <jshriver> What is the recommended pastebin?
[00:59] <tensorpudding> Cpt_Zyph: you need to install CCSM
[00:59] <xangua> Cpt_Zyph: you need to install compiz setting manager (softwre centre) and use the unity plugin
[00:59] <jshriver> I'm getting an error when I install mysql-server-5.1
[01:00] <jshriver> http://pastebin.com/pbw4hDQz
[01:00] <Cpt_Zyph> thanks ill go read that pronto.. figured it would be built into normal tools with out extra things to install
[01:00] <jayer89> screw this
[01:00] <widewake> having a problem with computer janitor, it wont fully load its broken
[01:02] <_bogus_> hey, is there a way to use native's driver when NVIDIA's fails to load ??? (Im trying to emulate ubuntu using vbox or vmware but i cant have graphic mode because of nvidia drivers)
[01:03] <hmuller> Karen_m, http://paste.ubuntu.com/621347/
[01:03] <Bishope> hey guys!
[01:03] <tensorpudding> _bogus_: in virtualbox, you want to install guest additions
[01:04] <tensorpudding> _bogus_: nvidia's driver won't load because the graphics hardware isn't real, it's emulated
[01:05] <Karen_m> hmuller, very nice thank you!!
[01:05] <hmuller> Karen_m, np hope its useful to you
[01:05] <_bogus_> tensorpudding yeah thats what i've thought.. but i also dont want to remove nvidia drivers, so i was thinking if there was a way to load the native's driver when emulating
[01:06] <tensorpudding> _bogus_: trying to load the driver will fail, because there's no nvidia-compatible cards
[01:06] <tensorpudding> _bogus_: why did you even add the driver?
[01:07] <_bogus_> tensorpudding because its installed on my physical disk and I use to boot it physically and not virtually... but it would be awesome to emulate it too..
[01:07] <The_Pugilist> after installing some updates to mu ubuntu 11.04 box (im not sure which updates) grub will no longer load, after POSTing the computer sits with a blinking cursor, is there any way i can repair/reconfigure/re-install grub from a live cd or how should i solve this issue?
[01:07] <tensorpudding> _bogus_: oh, not sure how you'd do that
[01:08] <jayer89> this is the issue im having
[01:08] <jayer89> when i upgrade to 11.04 natty i get taken to the command line and not the proper log inscreen
[01:09] <kaushal> Hi
[01:09] <tensorpudding> what happens before that
[01:09] <kaushal> When is JAVA6 U26 going to be available in Ubuntu ?
[01:09] <tensorpudding> ^ jayer89
[01:09] <jayer89> it only boots into the command line
[01:09] <tensorpudding> jayer89: do you see the purple loading screen?
[01:09] <jayer89> nope
[01:09] <tensorpudding> jayer89: do you see errors?
[01:10] <jayer89> all i kno is that the xserver is either crashing or courrepting some where
[01:10] <ranilynn> hi all i'm having trouble getting my laptop to detect wireless after installing ubuntu 11.04
[01:10] <tensorpudding> jayer89: what's your hardware?
[01:10] <hmuller> jayer89, what happens when you enter 'gdm' on the commandline?
[01:11] <jayer89> one sec im running off live cd
[01:11] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: what is the chipset of your wifi
[01:11] <daviddoria> ah, I had to use QCommonStyle
[01:11] <ranilynn> to be honest i have no clue i just know it's broadcom
[01:11] <fluvvell> my unity bar has shrunk, how do i resize it?
[01:12] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: did you need to install a driver?
[01:12] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: some broadcom chipsets require a binary driver which is made available in Additional Hardware
[01:13] <tensorpudding> err, Additional Drivers
[01:13] <geekbri> If I have ubuntu server running bind 9 and I want to make an entry for DNS without a host (say google.com without the www. part) how do you do that.  (I already have a wildcard for the domain that redirects all unknown hosts elsewhere)
[01:13] <ranilynn> i went to additional hardware and it says it's activated but not in use
[01:13] <TurboBee> after installing Ubuntu 11.04 and activating my nvidia driver, it does't seem to be using the driver.  I have an nvidia 8800 GT on this box
[01:13] <TurboBee> how do I go about making it use the nvidia driver?
[01:14] <tensorpudding> geekbri: i recommend asking in a channel devoted to BIND, since it's not an Ubuntu question
[01:14] <geekbri> tensorpudding: ok
[01:14] <hmuller> TurboBee, is it using the nouveau driver?
[01:14] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: does the network tool show any wifi connections available?
[01:14] <TurboBee> hmuller, not sure how do I check?
[01:14] <jayer89> that is no help
[01:14] <jayer89> but i do kno that im using a acer aspire t180
[01:14] <ranilynn> no it only gives me the option of ethernet
[01:14] <hmuller> TurboBee: lsmod | grep nouveau
[01:14] <fluvvell> geekbri, or ask on #ubuntu-server, they may know
[01:15] <collincday> quick question: im trying to install tasksel, but the package is not being found. what repo do i need to add, im on 10.04
[01:15] <fallencreations> i am trying to install ubuntu onto an external hard drive. I have installed it to the drive using the live cd. when i boot from the drive it stops at the grub> prompt. i have tried using "boot" which gives "error: no kernel loaded". any ideas?
[01:15] <hmuller> Turbobee, you have to run that in a terminal
[01:15] <ranilynn> i've removed it reinstalled it to no avail
[01:15] <TurboBee> hmuller, I do have the nouveau module loaded
[01:15] <TurboBee> is logging out and relogging in enough to make Ubuntu use the nvidia driver or do I need to perform a full reboot?
[01:16] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: no it only gives me the option of ethernet
[01:16] <hmuller> TurboBee, If the nvidia-current module is installed and you want to use it then you will have to blacklist the nouveau driver
[01:16] <TurboBee> ahh ok
[01:16] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: odd
[01:16] <TurboBee> hmuller, thank you
[01:16] <ranilynn> it is and very frustrating
[01:16] <TurboBee> blacklisted module, rebooting
[01:17] <hmuller> TurboBee, np hope that helps
[01:17] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: i really hate to do this but would reinstalling ubuntu make any difference
[01:17] <TurboBee> I'll let you know :)
[01:17] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: i'm pretty sure not
[01:17] <jayer89> is ther anyone helping me ?????????????????///
[01:17] <tensorpudding> jayer89: what kind of graphics do you have?
[01:17] <collincday> quick question: im trying to install tasksel, but the package is not being found. what repo do i need to add, im on 10.04
[01:17] <jayer89> nvidia
[01:17] <jayer89> thats all i kno
[01:17] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: i'm just out of ideas all together every search i did turned up nada
[01:18] <hmuller> jayer89, run at the terminal:  lspci | grep -i vga
[01:18] <hmuller> jayer89, then tell us what it says
[01:18] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: try running lshw -C network in the terminal, and tell me what exact model of broadcomm wifi it is
[01:18] <jayer89> i am running on live cd deois that matter?
[01:19] <tensorpudding> jayer89: try running sudo service restart gdm, and tell me what happens
[01:19] <hmuller> jayer89, should not matter
[01:19] <kaushal> checking in again for the query
[01:19] <hmuller> tensorpudding, he already tried gdm and it failed
[01:19] <tensorpudding> it failed, but did it give an error message?
[01:19] <atxq_> any suggestions on how to play audio through cli? mp3blaster giving me issues here
[01:19] <tensorpudding> it should give an error message if it fails
[01:19] <TurboBee> hmuller, that worked :)
[01:20] <Unknown_Monkey> Anyone here abaout gpu password cracking
[01:20] <hmuller> tensorpudding, did not report the error
[01:20] <hmuller> TurboBee, gr8!
[01:20] <TurboBee> unity is pretty nifty
[01:20] <tensorpudding> atxq_: used to have an interest in mpd and its ncurses frontend
[01:20] <hmuller> I agree, took a little getting used too
[01:20] <jayer89> nope nothing comes up
[01:20] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: product--bcm4311
[01:20] <jayer89> this is doing my head in now
[01:21] <atxq_> mpd, thanks
[01:21] <bobbyfischer> anyone know how licensing for the enterprise ubuntu version works?
[01:21] <tensorpudding> that one should be covered by STA
[01:21] <bobbyfischer> does each box need a license?
[01:21] <bobbyfischer> or?
[01:21] <collincday> can anyone help me out real quick?
[01:21] <jmcantrell> anyone know why xterm does not play nice with the compiz grid plugin?
[01:21] <warlot> hola soy nuevo manejando ubuntu saben algun comando para cambiar la resolucion  a 1024
[01:22] <ranilynn> tesorpudding: 802.11b/g wlan
[01:22] <hmuller> jayer89, what's the make and model of your laptop
[01:22] <jayer89> the graphics card in this is a NVIDIA GeForce 6100
[01:22] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: if it doesn't find your wifi network, it might be a bug, or a hardware problem
[01:22] <jayer89> its not a laptop its a desktop pc
[01:22] <Osmodivs> Is there a way to set up AcetoneISO to TWO devices? I want to installa a
[01:22] <hmuller> jayer89, what's the make and model of your desktop pc
[01:22] <m4v> !es | warlot
[01:22] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: is there a way to work around it?
[01:22] <fallencreations> what would cause the grub prompt to appear when attempting to boot from an external hard drive?
[01:22] <jayer89> the make is a acert180
[01:22] <jayer89> acer aspire t180 ]
[01:23] <collincday> quick question: im trying to install tasksel, but the package is not being found. what repo do i need to add, im on 10.04
[01:23] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: i don' tknow
[01:24] <S74rk7> Anyone know how to see how much space is actually used in the / partition -- my filesystem + home are on seperate partitions - when I go in right click n go to properties it says its totaling 125TB ... I know thats not true I only got 320GB harddrive and the filesystem alone is on 50GB partition...
[01:24] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: does the entry for the wifi show a logical name?
[01:24] <th0r> Osmodivs: you could just bypass acetoneiso and use the fuseiso command line
[01:24] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: like eth0 or something
[01:24] <Osmodivs> Is there a way to set up AcetoneISO to TWO devices? I want to install a game, i do not have an ISO, I have a .mdf file, The setup installation asks me to INSERT DISK 2, I should mount the other .img file, but it jus opens another window, it does not run it like a second CD
[01:25] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: in the terminal window or under the internet icon thingy
[01:25] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: i meant the lshw entry
[01:25] <Osmodivs> SO, how do I setup AcetoneISO like these instructions for Window's Daemon Tools? 3) Set Daemon Tools to TWO devices. From cd folder one, mount the .mds file on device 1. DO NOT START INSTALLATION YET. On device 2, mount the .img file from folder CD folder 2. When mounting, change daemon tools to *.* all files, so it recognizes the .img file.
[01:25] <jayer89> i cant be asked wiht this imma just install 10.10 and stay with that at least i kno 10.10 works
[01:26] <tensorpudding> jayer89: have you tried installing the binary nvidia driver?
[01:26] <jayer89> yep
[01:26] <tensorpudding> jayer89: this behavior is with that driver, or without it, or bot
[01:26] <tensorpudding> h
[01:26] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: no it says description-- network controller then the product, vendor, phys id, bus info, version, width, clock, capabilities, config, and resources
[01:26] <fallencreations> i am trying to install ubuntu onto an external hard drive. I have installed it to the drive using the live cd. when i boot from the drive it stops at the grub> prompt. i have tried using "boot" which gives "error: no kernel loaded". any ideas?	
[01:26] <jayer89> ive had all the drivers installed and everything i had it all updated and everything but it wouldnt shift from the command line
[01:27] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: it also says network UNCLAIMED
[01:27] <fallencreations> the install is version 10.04
[01:27] <jayer89> like i say im sticking with ubuntu 10.10
[01:27] <jayer89> coz that one works
[01:28] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: okay, can you open /var/log/dmesg and paste it to a pastebin?
[01:29] <hmuller> jayer89, the LiveCD works but once installed it doesn't work as expected right?
[01:29] <jayer89> yep
[01:29] <jayer89> as soon as i upgrade to 11.04 it screws up
[01:30] <hmuller> jayer89, same problem I had with my laptop.  You are still in the livecd environment?
[01:30] <jayer89> yes
[01:30] <hmuller> you have a terminal open?
[01:30] <jayer89> yes
[01:30] <collincday> ok, i am on a VPS. i am trying to use tasksel on 10.04 but the package is not installed. how can i get tasksel?
[01:30] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: do i type that into my terminal?
[01:30] <tensorpudding> jayer89: can you try putting the output of 'dmesg' on a pastebin?
[01:30] <hmuller> jayer89, run:   lspci | grep -i vga
[01:31] <hmuller> jayer89, then tell me what is reported
[01:31] <tensorpudding> ranilynn: you open the file /var/log/dmesg in gedit, and copy it
[01:31] <OerHeks> !tasksel
[01:31] <OerHeks> collincday, sudo apt-get install tasksel
[01:31] <collincday> doesnt work, not found
[01:32] <ZykoticK9_> OerHeks, collincday tasksel should be installed by default
[01:32] <collincday> ZykoticK9_, it must be my VPS install
[01:32] <collincday> ZykoticK9_, is there anyway to get it?
[01:32] <OerHeks> ZykoticK9_, it is not, i am afraid
[01:33] <OerHeks> but it finds it nicely, with install
[01:33] <ZykoticK9_> collincday, should be as OerHeks suggested "apt-get install tasksel"
[01:33] <The_Pugilist> when i boot my system all i get is a grub command prompt, how do i fix this?
[01:33] <jayer89> help
[01:34] <hmuller> jayer89, what do the results say?
[01:34] <fallencreations> I have same problem as The_Pugilist
[01:35] <The_Pugilist> fallencreations, i have read several guides but none of the commands they talk about seem to work
[01:35] <ranilynn> tensorpudding: give me a sec i'm working between 2 comps
[01:35] <fallencreations> The_Pugilist: Are you trying to boot from an external hdd?
[01:36] <The_Pugilist> no
[01:37] <Skaperen> installing 11.04 ... I'm at manually configuring partitions ... it won't let me enter a mount point manually (since /var/log is not in the drop down menu I need to enter in manually) ... I assume this worked when I installed 10.10 since my 10.10 box does have /var/log as a separate filesystem and I did manually configure partitions on that one, too
[01:37] <fallencreations> The_Pugilist: Have you tried set root=(hdX,Y)
[01:37] <Skaperen> is that a known regression bug where the manual entry of the mount point went away?
[01:37] <fallencreations> 	
[01:37] <fallencreations> linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdXY ro
[01:38] <fallencreations> 	
[01:38] <fallencreations> initrd /initrd.img
[01:38] <FloodBot1> fallencreations: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <fallencreations> 	
[01:39] <cablop> i got this problem igf i move too many files or a big file between my ubuntu and my windows computer then it suddenly fails and then the network in the ubuntu box is lost, needing to restart the machine to make it work again, is there any problem with samaba on ubuntu and windows 7
[01:39] <ab88> hi everyone
[01:39] <ab88> can somebody assist me with an issue with LibO
[01:39] <ab88> ?
[01:40] <Skaperen> cablop: did the network interface go down for all network communications?  or just the file share?
[01:40] <TurboBee> ok so I just got my nvidia working in dual screen on ubuntu 11.04, everything seems to be running great except I'm noticing some vertical sync issues on the left monitor in one line on the screen.  how can I go about diagnosing this?
[01:40] <cablop> Skaperen: for anything else, this is why i ned to restar, restarting network service and ifup don't work
[01:41] <fizyplankton> hey did some update today change the default theme for ubuntu 10.04? i like the dark default theme. now its some bright white crap. i clicked on ambiance in the appearence dialoge, and that mostly fixed it, but nautilus is still using this god awful theme
[01:41] <Skaperen> cablop: can you capture the state of the interface with "ifconfig" ?
[01:41] <jonesst1> if i want to re-run a packages installer help script again what's the command? dpkg something?
[01:41] <brown_fern> ab88: would "libO" be "LibreOffice?" I'm new to that phrasing.
[01:41] <RevSpecies116> fizyplankton: nope :(
[01:42] <cablop> Skaperen: sometimes it give me the right ip, other times no ip
[01:42] <Skaperen> cablop: also any messages about the interface with "dmesg" or "dmesg | fgrep eth0" (replace eth0 with your interface if different)
[01:42] <TurboBee> brb
[01:42] <Skaperen> cablop: are you using wireless?  DHCP assigned IP?
[01:42] <cablop> wired and fixed ip
[01:42] <RevSpecies116> fizyplankton: Sounds like an Elementary theme was installed?
[01:42] <fridgerator> does anyone know how to view the sata controller I/O info, similar to what msinfo32 shows?
[01:42] <ab88> yes brown_fern LibreOffice
[01:43] <fizyplankton> RevSpecies116: weird. i was downloading wine and g++ and it just started changing on me. i was just idleing waiting for wine to download so that g++ would start, when it just changed right begfore my eyes
[01:43] <ab88> sorry about that
[01:43] <RevSpecies116> fizyplankton: Did a restart fix the issue?
[01:43] <Skaperen> cablop: have you tried to manually configure the interface back up to see if it will come back up?  If you tried to unplug it and plug back in?  Is it plugged into a switch, or hub, or router?
[01:44] <fizyplankton> RevSpecies116: i run alot of servers, so i try to reboot as seldom as possible. as it stands, i DO need to reboot, and i have needed to for like 2 weeks, for some update, but i put that off as much as possible
[01:44] <edwardthefma> hey all
[01:44] <RevSpecies116> fizyplankton: can you just restart the X-server without rebooting the machine?
[01:45] <cablop> Skaperen: yes, i tried disconnecting from ubuntu menu, then connectng again, it "seems" to work, but no way, unplugged plugged physically also, and tried ifdown, service networking restart and ifup but also fails
[01:45] <kdog> what is the incantation to --set-selections and then install?
[01:45] <RevSpecies116> fizyplankton: sounds like some type of theme corruption [memory fubar?]
[01:45] <brown_fern> ab88: No problem, I however, try and stay away from acronyms when communicating, it limits the number of people who might understand me. That's just a personal preference.
[01:45] <cablop> it happens when i transfer big or many files, few or small files don't fire the problem
[01:45] <Skaperen> fizyplankton: I take a different philosophy ... if I made changes that need a reboot, or might cause the system to not come back up if the changes were not quite right ... I schedule a reboot as soon as practical
[01:45] <fizyplankton> RevSpecies116: ill try that. idk WHY ctrl-alt-backspace is disabled by default. lemme just save all my crap i have running
[01:46] <Skaperen> fizyplankton: ... because ... I don't want it to fail to come back up if it reboots for some reason when I am not there
[01:46] <ab88> certainly I will take in consideration your advice brown_fern
[01:46] <fizyplankton> Skaperen: i have an old ubuntu lucid install on here, so if all else fails, i could boot in to that and access my main filesyste,m
[01:46] <ab88> this is my main problem with LibreOffice http://imageshack.us/f/805/pantallazob.png/
[01:47] <Skaperen> cablop: I've seen issues like this but they were hardware problems with the NIC ... but I don't know that your case is hardware (yet)
[01:47] <ab88> as you can see the buttons are different form what they are supposed to look like
[01:47] <fizyplankton> Skaperen: unless its a grub issue, in which case i have like 10 other comps in my house, i could just plop the hdd in one of them and work from there
[01:47] <ranilynn_> tensorpudding: http://paste.ubuntu.com/621371/
[01:47] <RevSpecies116> Fingers crossed, fizyplankton
[01:47] <fallencreations> is there any reason why grub is hanging with the command "ls (hdX,Y)/
[01:47] <fridgerator> does anyone know how to view the sata controller I/O info, similar to what msinfo32 shows?
[01:48] <Skaperen> fizyplankton: for home comps I don't care ... I usually don't need them to be up if I'm not here (except the DHCP server so my dad's computer can get an IP)
[01:48] <cablop> Skaperen: well, in this moment is working, maybe bcause it is not at full speed
[01:48] <cablop> ok, failed now
[01:48] <cablop> error shown in nautilus window is network timeout
[01:49] <fizyplankton> Skaperen: i ALWAYS need mine up, since i SSH into it from my droid/laptop all the time from school whenever i forget to grab my flashdrive if i need to work on something at school. or from PUTTY if im on a school comp during lunch
[01:49] <Skaperen> cablop: the failure mode I've seen was caused by a specific data pattern that croaked an Intel NIC ... a pattern I could not easily avoid ... but doing it over an encrypted connection saved the day
[01:49] <fizyplankton> Skaperen: RevSpecies116 ill reboot x. thank god for screen + a cli IRC client
[01:50] <cablop> Skaperen: how to set the encrypted connection?
[01:50] <fizyplankton> another reason why i love sshing
[01:50] <RevSpecies116> OKies, fizyplankton  :)
[01:50] <Skaperen> cablop: this is not a solution ... but is a workaround ... see if you can get rsync for windows with ssh access ... rsync is great for file transfers ... and this would be done encrypted ... which means random looking bits to the hardware
[01:50] <cablop> Skaperen: it failed now, how to retrieve the kernel or network errors?
[01:50] <inktri> how can i rename ra0 to wlan0 so that my wireless adapter shows up in the network manager?
[01:51] <Skaperen> cablop: do a ping to the IP address of the interface
[01:51] <tensorpudding> ranilynn_: your wifi chipset doesn't even appear there
[01:51] <tensorpudding> ranilynn_: very odd
[01:51] <Skaperen> cablop: do a ping to the IP address of the interface ... from within the machine that has it
[01:51] <Skaperen> cablop: gotta run in 8 mins
[01:52] <ranilynn_> tensorpudding: i really don't know what to do
[01:52] <cablop> how to kow the ethX number?
[01:52] <cablop> got it
[01:52] <KM0201> cablop: ifconfig    should tell you
[01:52] <Skaperen> cablop: you should have discovered the ethX number earlier ... but do "ifconfig" alone and see what it shows
[01:52] <tensorpudding> ranilynn_: if your card isn't being assigned an ethX, then it's not going to work
[01:52] <cablop> eth-: Too much work at interupt, status=0x00000002
[01:52] <Skaperen> cablop: do you have more than one eth?
[01:53] <ranilynn_> tensorpudding: so i'm basically sol
[01:53] <cablop> i had in the past, but i reinstalled so hopefully it is etho , yep ifconfig says eth0
[01:53] <Skaperen> cablop: does it show "RUNNING" state?
[01:53] <cablop> ifconfig?
[01:53] <tensorpudding> ranilynn_: well, i guess the STA driver might not actually support your card for some reason
[01:54] <fizyplankton> Skaperen: RevSpecies116: rebooting x worked. idk why it decided to go all retarded on me out of nowhere. now to reopen my like 7 billion browsers
[01:54] <Skaperen> do "ifconfig eth0" ... look for state keywords "UP" and "RUNNING"
[01:54] <cablop> nope, ping is not getting answer
[01:54] <Skaperen> fizyplankton: I thought the limit was no more than 4294967295 browser
[01:55] <ranilynn_> tensorpudding: this may sound like a dumb question but would 64 bit vs 32 bit matter
[01:55] <cablop> up boroadcast running multicast and loopback running
[01:55] <fizyplankton> Skaperen: now thats just nonsense
[01:55] <tensorpudding> ranilynn_: no, it shouldn't
[01:55] <Skaperen> cablop: the state of "lo" is not wanted ... just for "eth0"
[01:55] <cablop> it is my understandng right? it seems eth0 got overloaded
[01:56] <RevSpecies116> :) fizyplankton - glad it was a 'simple' reboot of X :)
[01:56] <cablop> supposedly up broadcast running multicast
[01:56] <Novatinho> help ??
[01:56] <Skaperen> cablop: it shouldn't be overloaded ... it would just not send what it can't send
[01:56] <tensorpudding> ranilynn_: what version of ubuntu was this, anyway?
[01:56] <Cobbra> help...?
[01:56] <Skaperen> cablop: but hardware can fail in various ways
[01:56] <cablop> yes... it started to seem a hw problem
[01:56] <Cobbra> Anybody have a sample for MYSQL native connect with C/C++?
[01:56] <ranilynn_> tensorpudding: the new one 11.04
[01:57] <cablop> could it be a hardware or driver issue?
[01:57] <Skaperen> cablop: hitting full capacity can trip some hardware issues that otherwise lay dormant
[01:57] <tensorpudding> ranilynn_: i don't know, it's a bit odd, your problem
[01:57] <Novatinho> i am new at this linuz\ ubuntu things
[01:57] <RevSpecies116> Welcome to Ubuntu Novatinho - How can we help?
[01:57] <jonesst1> anybody setup ubuntu to talk to freeipa?
[01:58] <Skaperen> cablop: be sure you are using a good cable ... while not the most likely cause, a bad cable can be a cause ... and it is a cheap fix if you have another cable handy
[01:58] <ranilynn_> tensorpudding: i'm beginning to notice my desktop took this change no problem
[01:58] <Novatinho> is it possible to install in the same PC runnig Windows ??
[01:58] <RevSpecies116> Yes, Novatinho
[01:58] <szal> !multiboot | Novatinho
[01:58] <Novatinho> how ??
[01:58] <Skaperen> cablop: is it plugged into a router? switch? hub?  or crossover to the windows box direct?
[01:59] <szal> !dualboot | Novatinho
[01:59] <jonesst1> novatinho its supposed to be almost trivial
[01:59] <RevSpecies116> Several methods :) First - does the liveCD work well on your computer?
[01:59] <bsmith093> im trying to finalize my backup programs, how do i backup my list of repositories
[01:59] <jonesst1> novatinho or use a virtual app like vmware=player
[02:00] <jonesst1> vmware-player
[02:00] <Novatinho> hummm
[02:00] <szal> jonesst1: the question was about dualboot, not about virtualization ;)
[02:00] <Skaperen> gotta run now ... sorry ... cablop: g/l with it
[02:00] <cablop> Skaperen: conneted to router
[02:00] <cablop> router using linux, open-wrt
[02:00] <jonesst1> szal no he said is it possible to install on the same pc
[02:00] <cablop> i see Skaperen , ok thans for your time
[02:00] <jonesst1> he didnt say dual boot
[02:00] <Novatinho> and then the HD is supposed to be divided ?
[02:01] <brown_fern> Novatinho: Try here http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=63547
[02:01] <jonesst1> novatinho with dual boot yes, with virtual no its just a file
[02:01] <flowbee> hi folks; i tried to remove pulse audio and go back to alsa on 10.04 because i kept hearing hissing when i would play anything ... 10.04.  when i now go to pref => sound: "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[02:01] <Novatinho> thanks
[02:01] <Novatinho> i'll try here
[02:02] <jonesst1> i'd suggest vmware=layer as its easiest to back out of if you dont like it
[02:02] <ZykoticK9_> flowbee, removing Pulse is almost never a good idea.  Best of luck.
[02:03] <flowbee> ZykoticK9_, ok i can put it back then... i just want sound
[02:03] <rationalOgre> cablop: So you are using nautilus and dragging/dropping files onto (or from) a windows 7 shared folder?
[02:04] <ZykoticK9_> flowbee, it's certainly up to you - but by removing Pulse you remove Gnome default sound system - no more default volume control and other potential issues.
[02:04] <ranilynn_> tensorpudding: thanks for trying to help
[02:04] <flowbee> ZykoticK9_, ok i can reinstall it i just dont know what to do now
[02:04] <cablop> rationalOgre: yes, this is the case
[02:05] <cablop> error fires from windows explorer too rationalOgre
[02:05] <rationalOgre> cablop: and when the error fires, the networking completely dies on the ubuntu box, but is fine on the windows box
[02:05] <rationalOgre> correct?
[02:05] <cablop> rationalOgre: right
[02:07] <rationalOgre> cablop: you said you were getting the message "too much work at interrupt" can you tell me what was immediately prior to those words? (should be a series of letters)
[02:08] <rationalOgre> letters/numbers
[02:08] <cablop> eth0 and a number
[02:09] <rationalOgre> And nothing else? Just the 0x0000002 and eth0?
[02:09] <cablop> rationalOgre: [ 1487.015453] etho: too much work at interrupt, status 0x00000002
[02:09] <cablop> other lines?
[02:09] <cablop> nop close
[02:09] <rationalOgre> cablop: that's from the kern log?
[02:10] <fr00g> What is the "exe" process that takes around 7 seconds in my bootchart? http://ubuntuone.com/p/xzq/
[02:11] <cablop> rationalOgre: dmesg |fgrep eth0
[02:12] <Polah> Is there any way to make Flash less processor intensive? Right now I have flashplugin-installer and I'm using Firefox 4; whenever I have a Flash application open in Firefox plugin-container uses no less than 30% of my processing power and often jumps up to ~150.
[02:12] <flowbee> reinstalled pulse but now i'm getting: ALSA error snd_pcm_open failed: No such file or directory.
[02:12] <cablop> dmesg | less shows nothing before, it just sends that error and other 15 like that one
[02:12] <Polah> fr00g: Unless I'm mistaken, .exe processes are only Windows applications running through WINE.
[02:12] <strata_> oh
[02:12] <fr00g> No, but the name of the process is "exe"
[02:12] <dan_> hello
[02:12] <strata_> my gawd
[02:12] <cablop> rationalOgre: dmesg | less shows nothing before, it just sends that error and other 15 like that one
[02:12] <fr00g> Oh nvm, it actually only runs for less than a second
[02:12] <Polah> fr00g: Oh, no idea then.
[02:13] <Polah> !repeat | cablop
[02:13] <fr00g> What is "wait-for-root"?
[02:13] <cablop> Polah: i forgot to address my message
[02:14] <rationalOgre> cablop: on phone a moment
[02:14] <cablop> kk
[02:14] <strata_> if you select "use whole disk" when installing, why does it create two primaries (one for / and one for swap), but swap is actually a logical partition shadowed by the 2nd primary? wouldn't it make more sense to just make swap a logical partition and only use one primary?
[02:14] <RevSpecies116> Polah - cablop is currently being activly helped right now - ubottu messages are unwelcome in this senario...
[02:16] <fr00g> Does anybody know if it's safe to disable the brltty service?
[02:16] <strata_> ah wait i think i know why it is done this way. because of the dm-crypt stuff for encrypted swap partition...
[02:16] <strata_> fr00g: if you don't know what it is, disable it
[02:16] <fr00g> Is it critical, though?
[02:17] <strata_> fr00g: disable it. if it breaks anything, turn it back on :)
[02:17] <Polah> fr00g: If I remember rightly, that's for braille-keyboard usage. You can remove it if you want, unless you want to use braille.
[02:17] <fr00g> Ah, okay, thank you
[02:17] <nykur> I have a small problem with natty global menu; it disappears behind indicators on the right when big.
[02:17] <rationalOgre> cablop: back, sorry.
[02:18] <cablop> np
[02:18] <nykur> anybody know how to configure this, other than not having many indicators?
[02:18] <strata_> nykur: this is a unity thing?
[02:18] <RevSpecies116> Bigger screen resolution, nykur
[02:18] <G00053> !brltty
[02:19] <rationalOgre> cablop: poke around in /var/log/samba/ look for the log with your win7 computers IP address
[02:19] <nykur> strata_: yes this is a unity thing this happens for example when running audacity
[02:19] <strata_> i'm one of the anti-unity folks :P
[02:19] <RevSpecies116> Unity is here to stay - the best thing to happen to Ubuntu in a while
[02:19] <inktri> who wants to see my cawk
[02:19] <nykur> RevSpecies116: I'm afraid my netbook won't let me
[02:20] <cablop> rationalOgre: nothing in there
[02:20] <strata_> RevSpecies116: i agree with you on that aspect. also the lightdm that is coming is a big step in the right direction.
[02:20] <nykur> strata_: I'm not a unity fan, but trying to keep an open mind.
[02:20] <rationalOgre> cablop: nothing in the log for that IP address or in the /var/log/samba folder?
[02:20] <strata_> however, at this time, unity imo sucks. it needs to be more themeable
[02:21] <RevSpecies116> nykur: You missed a Jono Bacon talk about Unity about 4 hours ago. If you feel it is a bug, launchpad would be the place to raise it.
[02:21] <rationalOgre> the error may have been logged under log.<win7machinename>
[02:21] <RevSpecies116> LightDM and Unity for me in 12.04LTS :) and Weyland in 14.04LTS :)
[02:21] <fr00g> What is winbind?
[02:21] <nykur> I was kinda hoping this wouldn't be a bug, rather a config issue.
[02:21] <cablop> rationalOgre: by computer name it says some errors but are by far in the past
[02:22] <strata_> RevSpecies116: so what's up with compiz in 11.x? why did they break it so badly?
[02:22] <RevSpecies116> nykur: There are no easy configuration options for Unity at the moment
[02:22] <nykur> A bit stupid to leave an interface that was designed for netbooks to begin with utterly useless.
[02:22] <Polah> fr00g: If you're going through your packages, looking in Synaptic will give you a brief description of each one.
[02:23] <brown_fern> fr00g: Do some reading about that daemon if you have any questions. This may be the correct homepage for that service:  http://mielke.cc/brltty/
[02:23] <RevSpecies116> strata_: Good question :) But I've not used 10.10 upwards, so cannot say...
[02:23] <joshua-fbi> hi
[02:23] <cablop> rationalOgre: not in the time window
[02:23] <RevSpecies116> nykur: By 12.04LTS, it should be perfect
[02:23] <cablop> rationalOgre: meaning not from when the event happened
[02:23] <rationalOgre> cablop: ok, so it's not samba failing it would seem.
[02:23] <fr00g> Polah, I'm actually gong through my services (sysv-rc-conf), but that's a good idea, thanks!
[02:23] <rationalOgre> cablop: which means it's either hardware or driver related
[02:24] <cablop> rationalOgre: ok, good enough to know... then maybe a driver or hw error, right?
[02:24] <rationalOgre> cablop: got an extra eth cable lying around?
[02:24] <rationalOgre> Might try swapping it out
[02:24] <nykur> RevSpecies116: I'm sure, but for now I'll see if there is a way to scroll behind the indicators.
[02:24] <cablop> rationalOgre: just my guess... and maybe it is more hw because it happened in the past with 10.04 10.10 and now with 11.04
[02:24] <rationalOgre> that or unplugging the one you have and plugging it back in firmly at both eneds.
[02:24] <strata_> RevSpecies116: yea. i run mint 10 and recently tried 11 and was surprised to see xorg server crashing, compiz segfaulting, etc. radeon driver causing kernel panics. so i checked the known issues section on their site and they said it is an upstream issue. how can they release probably the most user-friendly and elegant desktop system with busted ass compiz? lol
[02:24] <cablop> rational, erm, yes
[02:25] <rationalOgre> cablop: You tried that already?
[02:25] <cablop> rationalOgre: yes i did in the past
[02:25] <RevSpecies116> nykur: Don't give up on that option, though - Jono says that not all changes to Unity have to wait for 11.10, they are being activly backported to 11.04 Unity too
[02:25] <rationalOgre> cablop: ok.
[02:25] <rationalOgre> So, if it's not the cable, then we're down to NIC or driver
[02:26] <cablop> rationalOgre: yes, but because the issue happened with three diff versions of ubuntu... and it is an old via rhine nic... then maybe it is hw
[02:26] <strata_> it's like "oh well. we just wanted to get the version out.. everybody run afterstep at 800x600 for a few months while we find someone who isn't drunk to recompile some packages"
[02:26] <cablop> sadly it is an integrated one rationalOgre
[02:26] <rationalOgre> cablop: sudo lshw | grep -i network
[02:26] <robin0800> RevSpecies116, is their a url for jono's talk?
[02:26] <cablop> going to replace the whole board with another old of same kind...
[02:26] <rationalOgre> let's find out what NIC we're dealing with
[02:26] <RevSpecies116> Let me check
[02:27] <cablop> rationalOgre: *-network and network in red
[02:27] <cablop> stupid, is red because of fgrep xD
[02:28] <RevSpecies116> Was informed of it via FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux   robin0800
[02:28] <cablop> rationalOgre: the output is *-network
[02:28] <cablop> nothing else
[02:28] <kainu7> Hey guys question, Im getting ready to reformat my computer. i have windows 7 64 bit, just downloaded ubuntu 11 64bit, I have to install ubuntu first right?
[02:28] <rationalOgre> cablop: Yeah, so do sudo lshw | less
[02:28] <strata_> kainu7: install windows first, it's easier that way.
[02:28] <rationalOgre> gonna have to visually search
[02:29] <Polah> kainu7: Install Ubuntu second.
[02:29] <RevSpecies116> robin0800: http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/06/07/unity-quality-in-ubuntu-11-10-help-make-it-rock/
[02:29] <cablop> rationalOgre: what should i look for?
[02:29] <kainu7> really? i thought it was always the other way around last time?
[02:29] <ZykoticK9_> kainu7, Polah is correct.  Windows first, then Ubuntu.
[02:29] <kainu7> how do i do the red thing?
[02:29] <kainu7> with your name
[02:29] <rationalOgre> cablop: *-network (what comes after it, looking for the ethernet controller)
[02:29] <Polah> kainu7: Nope. Installing Windows installs the Windows bootloader in the MBR, which only boots Windows. Installing Ubuntu second puts GRUB over the Windows bootloader, allowing you to boot into either from the GRUB menu.
[02:30] <ZykoticK9_> kainu7, include the nic in your reply
[02:30] <rationalOgre> cablop: could do sudo lshw | grep -i ethernet
[02:30] <kainu7> polah like this?
[02:30] <rationalOgre> But that might not show what we want
[02:30] <kainu7> nope
[02:30] <kainu7> lol
[02:30] <Polah> kainu7: Yes.
[02:30] <cablop> rationalOgre: well, my card is there, it identified the board and the network
[02:30] <kainu7> oh i was red?
[02:30] <cablop> i cannot copy paste, from there of course
[02:30] <fr00g> If I disable/uninstall winbind, will I still be able to access Windows network folders?
[02:30] <rationalOgre> cablop: of course.
[02:30] <robin0800> RevSpecies116, thanks
[02:31] <strata_> Polah: you can install ubuntu first and windows second (which is what i'm actually doing right now). it is more steps though.
[02:31] <cablop> rational many lines description product vendor and so on
[02:31] <Polah> kainu7: Your own messages to other people won't be red, but incoming messages with your name will show up red for you.
[02:31] <kainu7> Polah this is red to you?
[02:31] <kainu7> oh alright thank you
[02:31] <rationalOgre> cablop: product
[02:31] <rationalOgre> cablop: give me the product line
[02:31] <Polah> Strata_: How? You'd have to install GRUB (through Windows?) or boot from a LiveCD/USB and do it, right?
[02:31] <Polah> Kainu7: It was indeed red.
[02:32] <cablop> rationalOgre: product: VT6102 [Rhine-II]
[02:32] <strata_> Polah: if you install windows first, then ubuntu. it's pretty self-explanatory and will "just work." if you install ubuntu 1st and windows second, windows will overwrite the MBR and you'll then have to boot livecd and reinstall grub
[02:33] <Polah> strata_: Yeah, but doing Ubuntu second combines it with installing GRUB. Of course it's possible; it just makes no sense to create more work by doing Windows second.
[02:33] <rationalOgre> cablop: If memory serves you said periodically that it won't get an IP address?
[02:33] <kainu7> Do I have to do anything special when installing windows or ubuntu?
[02:33] <ratzz> naww  you don't want to boot windows.  if you have VT-x/AMD-V  just put windows in a virtualbox
[02:33] <Polah> kainu7: Nope. Install Windows as normal and then install Ubuntu as normal.
[02:34] <cablop> strata_ and Polah  when you install windows in a different hard disk and using SATa or setting in the BIOs this is the startup device it should work with no mbr issues
[02:34] <strata_> Polah: i have to do windows second because i needed win7 for a project. so i had to shrink my ext4 partitions back then install win7, then restore grub
[02:34] <kainu7> dont have to leave a partition or anything?
[02:34] <cablop> rationalOgre: mmm nope, it has fixed ip, anyway, if it ask for IP my open-wrt router give always the same
[02:34] <strata_> cablop: not all of us have more than one disk :)
[02:35] <strata_> so i'm going to find out just how stable gparted is
[02:35] <Polah> cablop: That'd be even worse, you'd need to manually select to boot from the Ubuntu drive every time you booted. Installing Windows and then Ubuntu in partitions on the same drive gives you a quick menu you can select from.
[02:35] <cablop> strata_: then if just one disk then Windows first then ubuntu second
[02:35] <Polah> cablop: Indeed
[02:35] <cablop> Polah: i do that to rescue Windows then go back to linux disk in the bios then sudo update-grub from there and keep things as is
[02:36] <cablop> i eman, that way
[02:36] <cablop> rationalOgre: so it is not a dhcp issue, allother computers work fine here
[02:36] <kainu7> Do I have to make separate partitions on my hard drive for windows and ubuntu?
[02:37] <Polah> kainu7: Yes. Ideally.
[02:37] <cablop> rationalOgre: and in windowsxp same machine barely fails, but i never transfer such amount of files in winxp so not sure
[02:37] <strata_> so i made the mistake in gparted: instead of shrinking sda1, i accidently shrunk it _and_ moved it to the right by about 95G. that cost me 6 hours of waiting
[02:37] <rationalOgre> cablop: right, just was gogling on VT6102 and one of the things that came up was that you had to change the boot options so apic=noirq
[02:37] <ratzz> not if you use virtualbox, kainu7
[02:37] <nit-wit> you don't have to adjust the bios for choosing a disc to boot from, there is a menu outside the bios for per-session booting.
[02:37] <rationalOgre> in order to get DHCP to work for the vt6102
[02:37] <cablop> rationalOgre: but no dhcp
[02:37] <coilbucker> I've changed a setting in one of my tuxguitar plugins, and now the software won't open. It doesn't throw any errors, but the splash screen goes dark and I have to force quit.
[02:38] <Polah> Ratzz, kainu7: Yes. You could install Windows in a virtual machine on Ubuntu, or install Ubuntu through WUBI on Windows. Both methods aren't as good as just installing them properly on separate partitions.
[02:38] <kainu7> ratzz idk what virtualbox is so i think i probably should
[02:38] <ratzz> it's convenient to boot the OS you care about and run the other in virtualbox when you're forced to bother with it
[02:39] <kauxcb> Whats up room
[02:39] <ratzz> kainu7: virtualbox.org
[02:39] <strata_> Polah: yes but running win7 in virtualbox is really slow and crappy even on a decent machine
[02:39] <kauxcb> I have a question
[02:39] <cablop> well, i use winxp on a VM and that'spretty good, because you at theend, end working on one computer and stop dualbooting, with some extra effot you can install that windows on a real partition anyway
[02:39] <kauxcb> Can you have an anti-virus to protect your wine??
[02:39] <Polah> Strata_: Yeah. That's why I recommended installing them properly in their own partitions, because virtualisation and WUBI are terrible in comparison.
[02:39] <ratzz> strata_:  naww  not when you have VT-x/AMD-V available.
[02:39] <strata_> ratzz: i do. it still no good :)
[02:40] <cablop> kauxcb: i barely believe that, because wine is not a full windows and an AV depends on many many services... also thinking it is not going to help much
[02:40] <kainu7> Polah, ratzz I game a lot so i was going to have windows as well, wouldnt virtualbox make gaming lag
[02:40] <jonesst1> does ubuntu have any scripts to hep setup authentication?
[02:40] <kauxcb> cablop: so there is no way of protecting wine?
[02:40] <cablop> rationalOgre: then, the way to solve it is apic=noirq, hw to set it, do you have the link?
[02:40] <Polah> Kainu7: I imagine performance would be worse than a proper installation
[02:40] <kauxcb> Can an ubuntu anti-virus protect wine?
[02:40] <cablop> kauxcb: you can use another wine for testing purposes, like manually sanboxing
[02:40] <RevSpecies116> kauxcb: no :(
[02:41] <Polah> kauxcb: WINE is limited to the same permission restrictions as Ubuntu itself. It isn't a kind-of Windows running, it's just a compatibility layer.
[02:41] <kauxcb> shiet
[02:41] <cablop> kauxcb: in the other hand as wine software is different from real windows i think few viruses can do what they expected to do on it
[02:41] <strata_> kauxcb: lol virtualbox. just sandbox the whole OS. keep a fresh .vdi for backup
[02:41] <kainu7> Polah How much should I leave for ubuntu in the partition?
[02:41] <Polah> Kauxcb: I'm doubtful most Windows viruses would run as designed through WINE anyway.
[02:41] <RevSpecies116> If it is a badly written virus, it will most likely not run on WINE anyway - thus you are safe ;)
[02:41] <ratzz> kainu7:  well if you're going to game, then you'll need to boot windows off the raw hardware.   multiple partitions.
[02:41] <rationalOgre> cablop: no, that was for something else
[02:41] <RevSpecies116> But, a well written virus... DANGER!
[02:41] <Polah> kainu7: 10GB maybe. 20GB if you want. it doesn't require lots. I recommend at least 80-100GB for Windows.
[02:41] <ZykoticK9_> Polah, i've read that some do - most don't.
[02:42] <kauxcb> I have had a windows virus murder my wine
[02:42] <strata_> ratzz: or run visual studio.. i just tried that in virtualbox. disaster
[02:42] <kauxcb> It never installed anything again
[02:42] <cablop> rationalOgre: then... maybe try with the other board and testagain?
[02:42] <kauxcb> downloaded some torrent
[02:42] <rationalOgre> cablop: does the computer have a wireless card?
[02:42] <kauxcb> and boom
[02:42] <cablop> rationalOgre: nope no wireless
[02:42] <Polah> ZykoticK9_, yeah, I imagine some would the same way some legitimate Windows programs work.
[02:42] <rationalOgre> cablop: Ok, so that nixes that idea.
[02:42] <strata_> kauxcb: if a windows virii murders wine, just reinstall wine and you're good
[02:42] <Polah> apt-get purge wine, apt-get install wine > should solve that problem
[02:43] <kainu7> Polah I have a 500gig hd, so when i do this just make two partitions? one 20gig for ubunto and then one for the remaining ~480 for windows?
[02:43] <kauxcb> Tried, did not work
[02:43] <ZykoticK9_> Polah, incorrect!  purging wine will NOT remove ~/.wine which is where the virus/malware would be located!
[02:43] <ratzz> strata_: i've got different linux distros in vboxes and run 'em in XP and can barely tell the difference between that and running directly on the hardware.  'course i have RAM and CPU to spare.
[02:43] <Polah> ZykoticK9_, good point. ~/.wine would need to be deleted as well.
[02:43] <rationalOgre> cablop: try `cat /proc/interrupts | grep -i eth0`
[02:44] <strata_> ratzz: like how much ram?
[02:44] <rypervenche> Yeah, just remove ~/.wine and you're set. Restarting wine will remake all of the deleted files.
[02:44] <rationalOgre> cablop: tell me what the first # is
[02:44] <kauxcb> I had a question about ubuntu
[02:44] <Polah> Kainu7: I'd recommend three partitions then. A 20GB Ubuntu partition, an 80GB Windows partition (maybe 100GB if you plan on installing quite a lot of software) and then the remaining space can be formatted to a NTFS filesystem and used for shared data storage.
[02:44] <rationalOgre> cablop: you can also look at the end of the line and see what else is on that IRQ
[02:44] <kauxcb> Why are the torrents slower than windows
[02:44] <cablop> rationalOgre: ok
[02:45] <kauxcb> on ubuntu its every like 3 seconds
[02:45] <ratzz> strata_ all that XP can manage.  which unfortunately is < 4GB
[02:45] <kainu7> Polah ok thank you, is there an easy way to do this by chance?
[02:45] <kauxcb> on windows its every 1 second
[02:45] <cablop> rationalOgre: number 23 and eth0
[02:45] <strata_> ratzz: oh ok. i have 16G here
[02:45] <strata_> ratzz: and i've maxed it out. i need more
[02:45] <rationalOgre> cablop: so nothing else on that IRQ?
[02:46] <ratzz> but i am really using XP as a fancy bootloader so I can give all i need to vbox linuxes, strata_
[02:46] <Polah> kauxcb: kainu7: Yes. In the Windows installer make two partitions, on of 80GB and one of 400GB and then install Windows on the 80GB one. Then when you install Ubuntu, choose to make a partition in the remaining free space for that.
[02:46] <strata_> ratzz: might as well run xen :)
[02:46] <cablop> rationalOgre: line is 23: 3917888 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0
[02:46] <ratzz> yeah thought about that.
[02:47] <cablop> rationalOgre: with grep -i 23: shows no other lines
[02:47] <kainu7> Polah thank you again, im sure you can tell im new to all this =P
[02:47] <rationalOgre> cablop: So yeah, it's alone on that IRQ, thus it would make no sense that it would be an IRQ conflict with anything.
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> And all we ask, kainu7, in return is to come back to this channel every now and then and help others in need :)
[02:48] <chomping> just a clarification, I can't understand what to fill into the "network" field in /etc/network/interfacesfile.  I have this example found in the net which says "network 192.168.20.0". Will this really always start with 0? I can't ping though 192.168.20.0 in my network, but 192.168.20.1 is pingable.
[02:48] <julie> chomping, the .0 is the network address and matches no device
[02:49] <hpuser> chomping 192.168.x.0 is not an adress?
[02:49] <kainu7> RevSpecies116 believe me ill be back but idk if ill be of any help ill probably be seeking more help =?
[02:49] <rationalOgre> cablop: ok. do `modprobe -l via`
[02:49] <hpuser> maybe special?
[02:49] <chomping> julie: so that means it should start with 0, am I right?
[02:49] <Polah> hpuser: Not with an x in it it isn't.
[02:49] <julie> no you start with .1
[02:49] <hpuser> : >
[02:49] <julie> .1 is usually used for the gateway
[02:49] <RevSpecies116> kainu7: You will be surprised :)
[02:50] <chomping> julie: indeed, our .1 is used for gateway. That does mean network = gateway?
[02:50] <julie> no
[02:50] <hpuser> errr
[02:50] <julie> the network is actually defined by the IP and mask
[02:50] <julie> but why do you need to understand all this?
[02:50] <chomping> julie: so the desired in "network" field is 192.168.1.0 right?
[02:50] <cablop> rationalOgre: kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/via/via.ko
[02:50] <ratzz> network is a collection of devices which share the same IP bits as defined by the netmask, chomping.
[02:51] <Polah> Chomping: The gateway would most probably be your router, i.e. it's the gateway to other computers on your local network/the internet.
[02:51] <julie> chomping, do you use a router?
[02:51] <chomping> julie: because imply I need it, I didn't find any definition of thisfor the "network" field.
[02:51] <strata_> ratzz: vmware esxi is pretty good provided you have the right hardware
[02:51] <julie> chomping, do you have a router?
[02:52] <rationalOgre> cablop: hrm.
[02:52] <ratzz> strata_  yes, i'm a vmware customer from before they had the ESXi product.
[02:52] <cablop> rationalOgre: mmm
[02:52] <ratzz> i lack the $$$ to use it on my own stuff
[02:52] <julie> I use the free vmware player and it's great
[02:52] <hpuser> chomping we just call it that in reality it's 4 bits of 1s and 0's and another 3 x 4 bits, so it's acctually soemthing like 0010.0100.1010.1111  ?
[02:53] <strata_> ratzz esxi is free
[02:53] <Polah> chomping: Have you read your router manual? It could be the network name. I can't think of anything else "network" would define, subnet mask should be labelled as such and you can't define a single IP as the network. Perhaps it's an input for a range of IP, i.e. 192.168.1.1-10
[02:53] <cablop> rationalOgre: afaik it sould work, right?
[02:53] <ratzz> is it now?
[02:53] <strata_> yes
[02:53] <strata_> i was running it for a short time until i raped it
[02:53] <ratzz> shows you how much attention i've paid to the vmware products lately.
[02:53] <julie> hpuser, sorry but you're a bit off on network topology
[02:53] <JohnSS_> How do I view all of the things installed during the last update from command line?
[02:54] <hpuser> julie i know my friend just trying to help
[02:54] <Polah> hpuser: 4 bits? If IPv4 parts can go up to 255, that requires 8 bits
[02:54] <julie> ok :)
[02:54] <hpuser> polah, srty my bad
[02:54] <julie> chomping, are you still alive?
[02:54] <hpuser> 8h ?
[02:55] <julie> 8 bits * 4
[02:55] <rationalOgre> cablop: all I can figure is your network card is slowly dying.
[02:55] <chomping> yeah sorry, so this is the example
[02:55] <chomping> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/621401/
[02:55] <julie> you need to tell us if you have a router or not
[02:55] <chomping> now, my question is, what does the "network" field means in that config?
[02:55] <chomping> julie: yep. I use a router
[02:55] <chomping> the router's ip is 192.168.1.1
[02:55] <julie> then you should configure your network with DHCP
[02:55] <Polah> chomping: Try to access 192.168.20.0 in your browser. It could be your router.
[02:56] <cablop> rationalOgre: i see... ok, then... i'll put the other old motherboard and do some testing... if error happens again it does mean i'l need to buy a new computer or switch from linux xD
[02:56] <ratzz> 32 bits in total.  so if the netmask is 255.255.255.0  then there are 24 bits which define what is the local network and what is not.  and 8 bits to identify devices on the local network.
[02:56] <rationalOgre> cablop: do this `sudo lshw -C network | grep -i driver`
[02:56] <ratzz> .20.0 won't be a router.
[02:56] <Polah> Chomping: Oh, nevermind then. What are you looking at to get that information?
[02:56] <ratzz> .0.20 could be
[02:56] <cablop> rationalOgre: thanks for all your help... i realized i know a very litle about hardware checking via linux... do you have a link or something for all those commands?
[02:56] <sokuban> What's the proper way to restart a network in the latest ubuntu? restarting the networking daemon or ifup/ifdown eth0 doesn't work (but rebooting obviously does)
[02:56] <ZykoticK9_> chomping, if the router's ip is 192.168.1.1 then it's on network 192.168.1.0
[02:56] <julie> ratzz, there is no fixed amount of bits to define what is local or not
[02:56] <rationalOgre> cablop: you should see driver=
[02:56] <rationalOgre> that will tell you the name of your driver
[02:57] <hpuser> chomping, remove "network and replace with: gateway 192.168.1.1    < try that?
[02:57] <ratzz> julie  there is if you've set a netmask of 255.255.255.0 like i did for an example
[02:57] <cablop> rationalOgre: driver=via-rhine deriverversion=1.5.0
[02:58] <WyattOil> Hi all.  Long time suse user here.  Is there an Ubuntu w/ KDE version that can be run from a jumpdrive (USB Drive)? to test?
[02:58] <julie> ratzz, 192.168.2.1 with mask 255.255.0.0 has 65536 possibilities
[02:58] <ZykoticK9_> julie, network vs hosts is determined by the subnet mask
[02:58] <rationalOgre> cablop: `sudo modprobe -r via-rhine && sudo modprobe via-rhine`
[02:58] <julie> I know
[02:58] <julie> gosh
[02:58] <chomping> I'm actually configuring UEC here and found in the example they're using a static. Though we're using dhcp but the fact it falls into static since the router is configured to get into this machine (for example) if the ip is 192.168.10.26 and with its mac address.
[02:58] <strata_> WyattOil: yea kubuntu
[02:58] <ratzz> julie if chomping is flopping around not understanding "network" in /etc/networks ... some explanation is necessary.
[02:58] <hpuser> chomping, and ifdown <eth0>  and then if up <eth0>   replace eth0 with name of your network card, maybe like so: if down wlan0, then ifup wlan0
[02:58] <chomping> so I think I can use static, right? instead of dhcp
[02:59] <Polah> wyattOil: Install a Kubuntu distro on the drive rather than regular Ubuntu.
[02:59] <WyattOil> strata_:  thanks.  Just kubuntu.com?
[02:59] <strata_> kubuntu.org i think
[02:59] <Polah> WyattOil: .org
[02:59] <ratzz> no you can't use all possible 16bit values in the unmasked address space, julie.  and you should know why, too.
[02:59] <WyattOil> Polah:  thanks.
[02:59] <julie> chomping, you can indeed use a static address but from what you say your router will do the job even with a dynamic one
[02:59] <cablop> rationalOgre: done
[02:59] <ratzz> julie:  you lose 1 for .0 and one more for broadcast address
[02:59] <strata_> WyattOil: coming from suse you might be more pleased by linux mint KDE. give both a try. one is brown, one is green lol
[02:59] <hpuser> WyattOil, it's all ubunti, we jsut replace the first letter, so *bunti becomes KDE-buntu or k-buntu? it's all on ubuntu website
[02:59] <WyattOil> I've recently upgrated to SUse 11.4 and have been pretty disapointed. I'm looking at options :(
[02:59] <rationalOgre> cablop: now try transferring the file again.
[02:59] <julie> ratzz, this is getting ridiculous
[02:59] <chomping> so I need to change this to dhcp instead of static?
[03:00] <ratzz> julie so that's 65534 in total.
[03:00] <julie> ratzz, I just gave a routh number
[03:00] <rationalOgre> cablop: Well, I guess I should ask if the network came back up
[03:00] <julie> rough
[03:00] <chomping> iface eth1 inet dhcp, right julie?
[03:00] <julie> it does
[03:00] <ratzz> julie there is no such thing as "rough" when setting up a network.   computers are funny that way.
[03:00] <WyattOil> strata_: Mint? (or was that a joke on suse's green?)
[03:00] <julie> seems right
[03:00] <nykur> I have a small problem with natty global menu; it disappears behind indicators on the right when big.
[03:00] <strata_> WyattOil: no linux mint. linuxmint.org
[03:00] <celthunder> WyattOil, ? what're you looking for
[03:00] <sokuban> k, I'm not sure if I worded it bad, but how to I restart the network connection? like if I plug in a network cable? there must be some command I'm missing because I can get internet with rebooting
[03:00] <julie> ratzz, I was not designing an enterprise network, just giving a descriptive example
[03:01] <strata_> WyattOil: it's ubuntu under the hood. but looks and feels better.
[03:01] <WyattOil> ahh
[03:01] <ratzz> julie so was I.  and you jumped all over me.
[03:01] <rationalOgre> WyattOil: Arch?
[03:01] <julie> you're right
[03:01] <julie> my bad
[03:01] <WyattOil> rationalOgre: sorry?
[03:01] <ratzz> wyattoil:  i did upgrade to 11.4 and i'm quite happy.
[03:01] <rationalOgre> WyattOil: You said you were looking for options for distro's correct?
[03:01] <WyattOil> rationalOgre: yes sir
[03:01] <rationalOgre> WyattOil: Tried Arch?
[03:02] <WyattOil> ratzz:  have you tried an IPOD on 11.4?
[03:02] <WyattOil> rationalOgre: Not familar with that
[03:02] <Polah> WyattOil, Arch Linux. You could always just compile your own version of the kernel and work upwards from there.
[03:02] <ratzz> nope.  wyattoil.   seems a funny thing to stuff 11.4 into.
[03:02] <rationalOgre> WyattOil: http://www.archlinux.org/
[03:02] <RevSpecies116> Apple products are a law unto themselves, WyattOil
[03:02] <cablop> rationalOgre: why to reload it makes it work again?
[03:02] <saulotoledo> After system upgrade my system is crashing ant putting a message "panic occurred, switching back to text console". This happens when I use Skype at video calls, for example
[03:02] <WyattOil> RevSpecies116: my ipod used to work on suse 10
[03:03] <WyattOil> now .. nothing
[03:03] <rationalOgre> cablop: I was working under the assumption that the driver crashed
[03:03] <julie> saulotoledo, this is a a kernel issue
[03:03] <Polah> saulotoledo: Kernel issue. Try booting into an older version of the kernel.
[03:03] <rationalOgre> cabledid it work?
[03:03] <hpuser> WyattOil, they update the ipod?
[03:03] <rationalOgre> cablop: Sorry, did it work?
[03:03] <strata_> WyattOil: sounds like mint will work for you
[03:03] <cablop> rationalOgre: well, it is transferring again
[03:03] <RevSpecies116> WyattOil: An Apple official solution? I doubt it... So if it works that's good. If it doesn't there is none to blame :)
[03:03] <rationalOgre> cablop: *crosses fingers*
[03:04]  * hpuser waits for itunes for linux .. lol
[03:04] <ratzz> saulotoledo:  wow.  that's a video driver kind of problem.   try turning off acceleration first?
[03:04] <WyattOil> RevSpecies116: GTKPod, amarok both worked. Now nether does.  That's not a device problem...that's OS
[03:04] <rationalOgre> cablop: In the meantime, have you considered using something other than nautilus to transfer the file?
[03:04] <cablop> rationalOgre: well, it could do it... dunno
[03:04] <hpuser> WyattOil, pluuuse
[03:04] <strata_> WyattOil: install mint. use banshee. problem solved :)
[03:04] <cablop> rationalOgre: it failed when i pushed or pulled files from windows too
[03:04] <WyattOil> strata_: I'll google it
[03:04] <Polah> ratzz: Wouldn't that just cause Xorg to fail? I remember reading somewhere that the display system runs separately from the kernel so that it fails into a basic state.
[03:05] <rationalOgre> cablop: ah, yeah, then it's got to be the driver or the network card itself.
[03:05] <cablop> rationalOgre: so thinking it is not a nautilus error... and i need to browse that folder via samba... ftp wold work... slow as hell, but could work
[03:05] <rationalOgre> cablop: you could use scp or rcp
[03:05] <hpuser> if u have an ipod, use an apple computer? maybe?
[03:05] <Polah> cablop: FTP shouldn't be any slower than standard transfer
[03:05] <julie> cablop, FTP can not be slower
[03:05] <RevSpecies116> hpuser: Exactly
[03:05] <saulotoledo> julie, Polah, ratzz: Before upgrade I think I'm was running 2.6.38-8, now I have 2.6.38-10. But the message now occurs with -8, -9 and -10 versions. This confused me, why stopped working at versions before upgrade? Or I'm wrong?
[03:05] <cablop> the problem with ftp is it is harder to use
[03:05] <ratzz> polah: turning off acceleration?  no, it won't.   and it might not tickle the driver bug causing the kernel to panic.
[03:06] <cablop> not for me, but other users
[03:06] <rationalOgre> cablop: this is true
[03:06] <WyattOil> strata_:  why Mint over kubuntu?
[03:06] <alqaysar> hey
[03:06] <RevSpecies116> There is NO guarantee that ANY Apple product will work on Linux, WyattOil :)
[03:06] <hpuser> RevSpecies116, tho ... it's cool to make it work on linux anyways .. just for spit?
[03:06] <julie> saulotoledo, it might also be a kernel module problem
[03:06] <cablop> well, a filezilla in windows and vsftp on the linux would work also... mmm
[03:06] <WyattOil> RevSpecies116: Not looking for guarantee.  looking for what will work
[03:06] <celthunder> cablop, how is ftp hard to use the problem with it is it requires another service whereas scp can be done through ssh
[03:06] <Polah> ratzz: No I mean wouldn't a video driver bug cause the display system to fail, but the kernel would continue to run because they're separate? Unless they're not separate and I read wrongly somewhere.
[03:06] <ratzz> saulotoledo: because the upgrade tried to be helpful and turned on video driver feature which make your hardware upset?
[03:07] <jcordeiro> hi there
[03:07] <ratzz> polah:  they run quite tightly together and have to cooperate when switching between framebuffer and text mode and dealing with video overlays.
[03:07] <strata_> WyattOil: ubuntu is too concerned about third-party licensing and stuff
[03:07] <Polah> celthunder: SCP transfers work with two ssh clients?
[03:07] <strata_> WyattOil: mint just works
[03:07] <Polah> Celthunder: It'd also require installation of a suitable client on the Windows system.
[03:07] <jcordeiro> im using 11.04 and my last update just hanged on update-initramfs
[03:08] <celthunder> Polah, sshd and a client that uses scp
[03:08] <celthunder> Polah, winscp
[03:08] <strata_> WyattOil: blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1676
[03:08] <cablop> celthunder: mmm, not that hard, but not able to just open the folder and drag drop files
[03:08] <ratzz> "kernel module" == "video driver"
[03:08] <cablop> rationalOgre: it seems it is going to finish the transfer
[03:08] <Loaf> Polah : or for windows command line scp use pscp
[03:08] <celthunder> cablop, nah that's what samba's for...what're you trying to do i just got here as i saw "ftp is hard to use"
[03:08] <Polah> celthunder: Furthermore, SCP or SFTP could take more time as they would have to encrypt the data during transfer. If he's just sending data over a home network then encryption shouldn't be that important.
[03:08] <saulotoledo> ratzz: let me try. I have a asus 1005HA netbook, there is no xorg.conf, how can I disable hardware accel?
[03:08] <jcordeiro> Im using 11.04 and my last update just hanged on update-initramfs help!
[03:08] <rationalOgre> cablop: Ok, so, driver corruption?
[03:09] <cablop> ftp is hard to use for my siblings :P celthunder
[03:09] <julie> jcordeiro, don't restart :P
[03:09] <jcordeiro> julie:lol
[03:09] <Polah> cablop: Nautilus has a built-in FTP client type thing.
[03:09] <jcordeiro> and?
[03:09] <ratzz> look up driver params for your video driver, saulotoledo
[03:09] <cablop> rationalOgre: dunno, because that happened in the past with the other two versions of linux
[03:09] <celthunder> cablop, lol i cry for your having to live with them...i'd kill my sibling if he asked me something so stupid
[03:09] <cablop> Polah from windooooowwssss
[03:09] <kauxcb> are there any articles on how to make your linux the most secure possible?
[03:09] <jcordeiro> julie: and how do i correct this?
[03:09] <dsockwell> Is there a current HOWTO for installing xen 4.1 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:09] <strata_> kauxcb: yes. run bsd
[03:09] <celthunder> Polah, encrypting data takes .0000001 percent of cpu and almost no overhead
[03:09] <Polah> cablop: Ah yes, you'd have to set up an FTP server on Windows for that.
[03:10] <kauxcb> strata_: haha
[03:10] <rationalOgre> cablop: could use WinSCP from winders. You can set it to look just like windows explorer
[03:10] <kauxcb> strata_: other than that
[03:10] <cablop> from windows is hard to configure an ftp server and share files with ease for them
[03:10] <strata_> kauxcb: you can't secure linux
[03:10] <julie> jcordeiro, just like that I doubt anyone here could give you step by step instructions to fix it, sorry
[03:10] <kauxcb> no??
[03:10] <kauxcb> you cant tweak up any settings or anything?
[03:10] <Polah> celthunder: I imagine it takes a bit more than that. Depends on how much data there is and processing power.
[03:10] <cablop> and drag and drop and so on, the linux bos is the one i use only xD... except when lending them when i'm on the main machine
[03:10] <jcordeiro> julie: but whats the couse?
[03:10] <julie> jcordeiro, that's the big question
[03:10] <strata_> kauxcb: no. there are privilege escalation vulnerabilities posted nearly every day with linux kernel.
[03:11] <jcordeiro> so how do i debug it?
[03:11] <julie> jcordeiro, I would look at the boot partition
[03:11] <strata_> kauxcb: it's pointless to even try
[03:11] <celthunder> Polah, lol i might have slightly exagerated but seriously...use a bandwidth monitor and check through scp and ftp...it's not a huge difference
[03:11] <ratzz> celthunder	Polah, encrypting data takes .0000001 percent of cpu and almost no overhead  <-- no.  just no.  unless you have special hardware.
[03:11] <kauxcb> strata_: why would you suggest bsd?
[03:11] <rationalOgre> cablop: http://techie-buzz.com/how-to/install-a-ftp-server-in-windows-7.html
[03:11] <saulotoledo> ratzz: how can I do this check?
[03:11] <kauxcb> woa,,,
[03:11] <kauxcb> what the heck is goin on
[03:11] <Polah> Ratzz: Exactly. Encrypting data is fairly intensive unless I'm mistaken.
[03:11] <hpuser>                                                                                  <
[03:11] <cablop> well... but because the rpoblem doesn't seem to be the samba but the nic driver on ubuntu... i don't see how it would help...
[03:11] <strata_> kauxcb: go to securityfocus.com, go to "see all vulnerabilites" and select "Linux" as a vendor. then select "BSD" as a vendor
[03:12] <jburkholder> netsplit
[03:12] <jcordeiro> kauxcb: netsplit
[03:12] <Polah> Kauxcb: Netsplit. One of the servers of freenode went down.
[03:12] <ratzz> name of video driver module, saulotoledo ?   ( use "lsmod" )
[03:12] <cablop> but in the other hand i'd like that solution
[03:12] <cablop> for other purposes
[03:12] <celthunder> ratzz, do a bandwidth monitor on the transfer and run htop...i've never once seen it increase my cpu usage above 1 percent
[03:12] <cablop> rationalOgre: then it seems it is what about the driver?
[03:12] <hpuser>                                                                                                          popular chan
[03:12] <ratzz> polah: you are not mistaken.  and decrypting is generally better but not by a whole huge amount.
[03:13] <julie> they should definitely create different channels by topic
[03:13] <rationalOgre> cablop: No clue, alignment of the planets? Jupiter waxing. Some dark, dusty configuration option that gets triggered on boot but not on reloading the driver?
[03:13] <Polah> Celthunder: I'm not sure how you're managing that. Processing large amounts of data for encryption and decryption is always fairly intensive.
[03:13] <ratzz> celthunder: you sure it's measuring cpu used by the drivers?  (generally accounted to the kernel itself)
[03:13] <Unknown_Monkey> hello
[03:13] <Polah> Unknown_Monkey, Hi!
[03:13] <TMechanic> hi ppl
[03:13] <rationalOgre> cablop: It's hard to tell, and unfortunately I do not have the knowhow to dig in and find exactly what's going on.
[03:13] <saulotoledo> ratzz: videodev uvcvideo, video i915 (I think could be intel generic driver here, but I'm not certainly, since the config was always automatic and I don't remember the last value I saw here)
[03:14] <julie> celthunder, just look at system CPU
[03:14] <cablop> rationalOgre: yep, something so obscure... i'm retranmsfering
[03:14] <rationalOgre> cablop: But, if the file transfer did work then we know it was the driver.
[03:14] <celthunder> ratzz, yeah i was watching overall cpu usage
[03:14] <celthunder> ratzz, i'll admit i don't have a "normal" setup though
[03:14] <Unknown_Monkey> polah: do you know how to change the text color of just a script so when it runs its green
[03:14] <cablop> rationalOgre: i'm retransfering... something on ubuntu netwrok manager? imean gnome... sigh... or not loading that driver on bootup?
[03:14] <Polah> celthunder, ratzz: Would processor usage be affected by transfer speed? A slower throughput would result in encryption occurring at a slower rate and thus being less intensive
[03:15] <julie> Polah, very little
[03:15] <saulotoledo> ratzz: lspci returns for video "Intel Corporation mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)"
[03:15] <Polah> Unknown_Monkey, when it's running in a terminal
[03:15] <Unknown_Monkey> yes
[03:15] <celthunder> Polah, no theoretically it'd be ready to transfer before it actuall gets transferred
[03:15] <rationalOgre> cablop: Well, the driver was loaded, and when I had you unload and load it again it came back up and appears to be working
[03:15] <kauxcb> which is better for security openbsd or freebsd?
[03:15] <strata_> saulotoledo: you are running 11.04?
[03:15] <Unknown_Monkey> poal: yes
[03:15] <celthunder> kauxcb, openbsd
[03:15] <strata_> kauxcb: freebsd
[03:15] <Polah> Unknown_Monkey: No, I wouldn't know.
[03:15] <saulotoledo> stata_: yes
[03:15] <kauxcb> haha
[03:15] <ratzz> saulotoledo: the video i915 module looks promising.
[03:15] <strata_> openbsd is pure insecurity garbage
[03:16] <rationalOgre> cablop: So perhaps something in the config of Network Manager, or some dark dusty config option of some obscure thing.
[03:16] <cablop> rationalOgre: but if the nic was the faulty one, it was resting for enough time to be cold enough... then.. it'll be hw...
[03:16] <saulotoledo> strata_: yes
[03:16] <celthunder> strata_, really? i've always read the exact opposite
[03:16] <rationalOgre> cablop: True, if it's overheating that could be the case.
[03:16] <strata_> celthunder: but have you run it? have you written code for both?
[03:16] <jburkholder> all the bsds have had their share of priviledge escalation bugs
[03:16] <julie> cablop, NICs rarely overheat
[03:16] <celthunder> strata_, admittedly the only bsd i've used was bsdi from 1989/1990
[03:16] <cablop> yep..
[03:16] <rationalOgre> julie: True, but this is a pretty obscure bug to run up against.
[03:16] <cablop> but the board is old... 7 or 8 years i guess
[03:16] <ZykoticK9_> celthunder, strata_ doesn't know what they are talking about.  OpenBSD has had like 1 remote vulnerability in like 10+ years, it's crazy secure </OT>
[03:16] <cablop> k7vmz
[03:17] <strata_> all os have many flaws. linux is swiss cheese though :)
[03:17] <ratzz> Theo de Raat says there are no security vulnerabilities in OpenBSD.  and if there were, they were fixed years ago.   ;-)
[03:17] <celthunder> ZykoticK9_, thanks lol at least someone has the same info i have
[03:17] <cablop> what if.... it was loading another driver by mistake?
[03:17] <julie> I installed openBSD once 15 years ago and it was such a mess I never tried it again
[03:17] <strata_> saulotoledo: there are some issues with 11.04 and video. i have the same video card in my laptop as you. i had to turn off accelerations and stuff
[03:17] <jburkholder> things that get used more obviously have more bugs found, doesn't mean they don't exist everywhere
[03:17] <rationalOgre> cablop: Then the modprobe -r would have failed
[03:18] <FusionX> What's the channel name, where developers explain about Ubuntu-related stuff at particular times?
[03:18] <cablop> rationalOgre: right,...
[03:18] <Polah> FusionX: #ubuntu-dev?
[03:18] <julie> rationalOgre, defective hardware can often be detected
[03:18] <strata_> saulotoledo: if it really matters, try 10.04. there's a reason why they call it LTS i guess :)
[03:18] <cablop> rationalOgre: now... sigh, how to test what's on next to do/
[03:18] <cablop> ?
[03:18] <saulotoledo> strata_: How you done this?
[03:18] <celthunder> ZykoticK9_, pm?
[03:18] <FusionX> Polah: nope
[03:19] <ZykoticK9_> celthunder, sure
[03:19] <rationalOgre> cablop: well, you could keep transferring files to see if you can make it crash
[03:19] <saulotoledo> ratzz: How I can proceed?
[03:19] <rationalOgre> cablop: if that doesnt happen, try rebooting and transferring the file
[03:19] <sontek> whats the best way to get gnome-shell on 11.04
[03:19] <rationalOgre> to see if it crashes
[03:19] <strata_> saulotoledo: i had to turn off some compiz stuff. which i don't need on a laptop with a video card that can't handle it anyway.
[03:19] <rationalOgre> cablop: that will rule out 1) hardware overheating or 2) dark dusty config option somewhere
[03:19]  * cablop hopes itunes never comes to linux and will be deleted from windows and mac falls into obivlion
[03:19] <ratzz> saulotoledo:  http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting  may have some clues.  i am attempting to direct you to a full list of i915 driver parameters.
[03:20] <strata_> saulotoledo: you could also try logging in with "Ubuntu Classic" and see if unity is causing the problem
[03:20] <itaylor57> sontek, chose the classic ubuntu at login
[03:20] <cablop> rationalOgre: two transfers with no error... in the end i can end just reloading the driver in any dirty way or adding the driver to the startup
[03:21] <cablop> restarting
[03:21] <strata_> there has been this strange kernel memory exposure in netbsd for ever. i just checked 5.1 and it's still there.
[03:21] <sontek> itaylor57: thats gnome-shell?  I figured that was classic gnome2
[03:21] <strata_> that's hilarious
[03:21] <cablop> lol... now that computer is not starting !!!
[03:22] <saulotoledo> strata_, ratzz: the update installed some compiz packages... since this is a netbook, I don't need compiz, I'm purging all compiz packages
[03:22] <jburkholder> there was one bug with freebsd zero copy sockets where you could send kernel memory out the socket
[03:22] <jburkholder> at full wire speed!
[03:22] <ratzz> saulotoledo: the motherlode http://intellinuxgraphics.org/documentation.html
[03:22] <strata_> saulotoledo: yes. they are possibly what are causing your crashing
[03:23] <saulotoledo> strata_, ratzz: I have the same problem into KDE 4 (I'm was using KDE last weeks)
[03:23] <Polah> sontek: Ubuntu Classic is GNOME2. You can get 3 from a PPA but it's pretty unstable and will most likely break.
[03:23] <cablop> rationalOgre: ok, it started now and now testing the file transfer
[03:23] <sontek> Polah: I tried the gnome3 team ppa and it hosed my system, actually had to reinstall...first time I've ever had an unfixable problem in linux :P
[03:24] <strata_> i can't believe i just made a 12 hour gparted mistake
[03:24] <sontek> but Unity is broken, I launch stuff and the windows pop up behind other things
[03:24] <Polah> sontek: It broke my GNOME and Unity disappeared. I use PPA-purge to revert to 2
[03:24] <sontek> there is no way to view all the apps open of a certain type (i.e all my terminals) quickly
[03:24] <cablop> unity is the most broken think i have seen ever
[03:24] <sontek> I have to click the icon once, and it chooses a random window to open, then I click it again to get the overview
[03:24] <cablop> besides mandrake
[03:25] <LekeFly> Whats a good remote desktop server for ubuntu? the one that comes with doesnt have much options and stuff
[03:25] <sontek> LekeFly: ssh -X or vnc are both good
[03:25] <edbian> LekeFly: people generally use ssh (it's got everything you could ever need!)
[03:25] <jburkholder> strata_: ouch, I have a 6TB filesystem, I try not to mess with the tables
[03:26] <ratzz> saulotoledo: of course, "strings /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/driver/video/nameofvideodriver.ko" will provide parameter information
[03:26] <cablop> brb, afk, and then comming back with the results of this issue
[03:26] <ratzz> ouch, strata_
[03:26] <Polah> jburkholder: 6TB filesystem? How'd you manage that?
[03:27] <BiGz_> nick professor
[03:27] <jburkholder> Polah: 4 2TB drives, raid 5
[03:27] <mrdeb> why do you use raid
[03:28] <jburkholder> mrdeb: redundancy, drives fail all the time
[03:28] <ratzz> ah!  saulotoledo:  "modinfo  nameofvideodriver"  is the newer and nicer way
[03:28] <Polah> jburkholder: Ah, thought it'd be some RAID structure.
[03:28] <mrdeb> jburkholder: how about usb backup. not good enough for you?
[03:28] <Polah> mrdeb: Indeed, RAID offers data redundancy (unless it's plain RAID 0)
[03:28] <jburkholder> mrdeb: one of the drives failed not long after I bought them, I popped it out and returned it, no data lost
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[03:29] <jburkholder> mrdeb: I have a lot of data
[03:29] <Polah> mrdeb: That's not the same. RAID 1 for example has online mirroring, two drives with the same data. If one drive fails, the data is still available on the second drive. With a USB backup, you need to go and replace all that data on a new drive.
[03:29] <mrdeb> you cnt return the drives anyway
[03:29] <mrdeb> because ghey have data
[03:29] <jburkholder> huh?
[03:29] <mrdeb> you only destroy the drive
[03:29] <Polah> mrdeb: RAID is especially important for servers and whatnot in which any downtime would be critical.
[03:29] <saulotoledo> strata_, ratzz: another crash now, but now the screen is black
[03:29] <ratzz> fu u6657u spammer!
[03:30] <Polah> mrdeb: You destroy the data and then you can return it under warranty.
[03:30] <mrdeb> what is this msg about connecting to #freenode? is this spam
[03:30] <Cpt_Zyph> ok im new to trouble shooting problems in linux.. my brother in law is using natty and said from random times using usb cards.. wireless adapters.. his machine freezes up at random.. how do i go about trouble shooting this on this OS???
[03:30] <mrdeb> Polah: you cant return it ever, bec they can still recover it
[03:30] <gsr> ratzz: about 30 seconds too late :P
[03:30] <jburkholder> mrdeb: huh?  I erased it and returned it, good luck reconstructing any data from 1/4 of a raid5 array
[03:30] <ratzz> i shake my fist at u6657u, gsr
[03:30] <Polah> mrdeb: DBAN on the drive, or dd from /dev/null over the partition table and all the data.
[03:31] <ratzz> saulotoledo:  "modinfo nameofdrivermodule"  and see about lines beginning with "parm:"
[03:31] <mrdeb> jburkholder: Polah maybe
[03:32] <cyphase> does anyone else have issues with flash in chromium?
[03:32] <jburkholder> its not like I have any national secrets, anyone who wants my porn can have it
[03:32] <leigh> how do I resize my ubuntu partition to take over the free space i created in my drive?
[03:32] <edbian> leigh: Boot a live CD and use gparted.
[03:32] <edbian> leigh: How did you create free space on the drive?
[03:32] <Polah> Mrdeb: I think it's fairly impossible to recover data if you totally wipe over it and reduce any data on the drive to null.
[03:33] <jburkholder> don't fat finger it like strata_
[03:33] <leigh> i deleted a previous linux partition
[03:33] <edbian> leigh: Using a live CD?
[03:33] <mrdeb> Polah: i read it can be done. so i recommend destroying or burning drives
[03:33] <leigh> no i used the disk utility in ubuntu
[03:33] <saulotoledo> ratzz: modeset:int, fbpercrtc:int, powersave:int, semaphores:int, i915_enable_rc6:int, lvds_downclock:int, ldvs_use_ssc:int, reset:bool
[03:34] <Polah> mrdeb: It's impossible to recover data if it's totally destroyed. It's doubly impossible if you want to do two passes. You can't read data if it isn't there.
[03:34] <ratzz> polah: the recommended method involves disassembly and sandpaper.
[03:34] <Cpt_Zyph> so what log files can i get off ubuntu in order to trouble shoot random lock ups for my friend??
[03:34] <Polah> Ratzz: You forgot a pass with a magnet and a microwave
[03:34] <edbian> leigh: Ahh.  You can't edit the partitions you're mounted on.  You want to edit root.  Unfortunately it is impossible to unmount root.  You have to use a live CD
[03:34] <mrdeb> Polah: thre are magnetic traces
[03:34] <toad`> hi
[03:34] <ratzz> no, no magnet.  the underlying disc is aluminum.
[03:34] <edbian> leigh: Do you have more than one partition?  (what was the other distro) ?
[03:34] <toad`> I have a problem
[03:34] <edbian> toad`: What is it?
[03:34] <toad`> if anyone would like to focus their attention on me
[03:35] <Polah> Ratzz: The storage media is magnetic.
[03:35] <leigh> the other distro was mint 10
[03:35] <toad`> I installed arping in 10.04, and it conflicts with iproute2
[03:35] <toad`> apparently
[03:35] <toad`> so
[03:35] <ratzz> that's what the sandpaper is for my friend.
[03:35] <Polah> mrdeb: Not if you want to do anything more than single pass.
[03:35] <toad`> I need to reconfigure ifconfig
[03:35] <Cpt_Zyph> vlc player locks up constantly as well as when using his portable HD or thumb drives.. streaming video.. kind of at a loss..?? not sure how to trouble shoot this for him in ubuntu.. still making the admin switch from windows..
[03:35] <mrdeb> Polah: what
[03:35] <toad`> the problemis, after installing arping, it conflits with iproute2 and removes NetworkManager
[03:35] <Polah> Ratzz: Pass with a magnet and and stick it in a microwave would randomise the magnetic domains. Then you sandpaper the storage media off and shatter the disk
[03:35] <edbian> leigh: You didn't like it?
[03:36] <leigh> no, it was an XFC or something like that and I couldnt personalize it the way i wanted
[03:36] <ratzz> the bits of sand left embedded in the disc is enough to ruin the heads of anyone trying to read it later.
[03:36] <saulotoledo> Polah, ratzz: Are you talking about recover data from lost discs?
[03:36] <jburkholder> this discussion about disk destroying is pretty useless, some people have real ubuntu problems
[03:36] <Polah> saulotoledo: Yes.
[03:36] <nit-wit> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:36] <ratzz> no. destroying it beyond all hope of recovery.
[03:37] <nit-wit> please
[03:37] <ratzz> but a thorough scrubbing with sandpaper is needed to leave as little magnetic material as possible.
[03:37] <saulotoledo> Polah, ratzz: Well, I really need some of this infos too, I will ask you some days about :P
[03:38] <jburkholder> toad': you might need to email the package managers
[03:38] <Polah> saulotoledo: A pass with a neodymium magnet and a quick microwave should destroy your data. Disassembly and sandpapering the platters will physically destroy the storage media.
[03:38] <ratzz> saulotoledo: i've seen a booting with kernel param  i915.modeset=0  may help.   the info about modeset is as you've seen via "modinfo"
[03:38] <saulotoledo> ratzz: that was all my params, it's activated yet?
[03:38] <cablop> rationalOgre: well, after restart it failed
[03:38] <rationalOgre> cablop: so
 so what do I need to do to use my entire drive?
[03:39] <rationalOgre> cablop: a script in /etc/init.d/ to modprobe -r then modprobe the driver, perhaps?
[03:39] <cablop> rationalOgre: restarted the driver and testing again
[03:39] <jburkholder> toad: any chance you can upgrade your distribution, might be handled better in a newer version?
[03:39] <saulotoledo> ratzz: ok, where I do this change?
[03:39] <ratzz> you microwave will not like a metal disc inside while operating.  try to ignore the giant plasma-like arcs.
[03:39] <rationalOgre> cablop: sorry, I had to AFK a moment ago to pack my son up to go spend the night at a friends house.
[03:39] <saulotoledo> ratzz: directily at grub?
[03:39] <tyler_d> where (in the file-system) are the startup apps controlled from
[03:40] <rationalOgre> tyler_d: /etc/rc*
[03:40] <tyler_d> I checked /etc/rc1-7.d to no avail
[03:40] <ratzz> saulotoledo: yes.  add it on the end of the kernel boot line
[03:40] <tyler_d> rationalOgre: try again?
[03:40] <Polah> ratzz: Indeed it won't. Don't do it inside, don't do it with a new/expensive microwave, don't leave it in there for more than a few seconds.
[03:40] <itaylor57> !upstart | tyler_d
[03:40] <saulotoledo> ratzz: ok! restarting the system to try it manually
[03:40] <ratzz> saulotoledo: manually at first.  by hand.
[03:40] <tyler_d> ty itaylor57
[03:41] <jburkholder> alas, poor init
[03:41] <cablop> rationalOgre: yes i was thinking in that or to check what file loads the driver
[03:41] <cablop> what file loads the kernel drivers?
[03:41] <Scunizi> How do I test for lag on my internet connecton?  It seems to intermittently slow down for short periods of time.
[03:41] <ratzz> cablop:  the documentation for modprobe will help
[03:41] <nit-wit> ratzz, Polah nice your IP on the net open within the context, write me from jal will you.;)
[03:41] <nit-wit> *jail
[03:41] <cablop> ratzz: thanks
[03:42] <rationalOgre> cablop: udev I believe
[03:42] <Polah> nit-wit: Super cool guys only. How do you plan to get me put in jail? (:
[03:42] <ratzz> udev has to do with the naming of devices rationalOgre
[03:42] <rationalOgre> I use Arch Linux as well and occasionally information bleeds between the two, apologies if I mess up
[03:43] <ratzz> i doubt i have done anything which could be considered jail-worthy by a judge
[03:43] <nit-wit> Polah, I don't have to you are doing it yourself, or at the least seems suspicious, to somebody, not me but just saying.;)
[03:43] <Polah> nit-wit: It's suspicious for me to NOT hide my IP on an IRC network?
[03:43] <Polah> nit-wit: Surely it'd be more suspicious for me to be attempting to hide it?
[03:43] <cablop> it seems it is on /etc/modules ...
[03:44] <saulotoledo> ratzz: boot done, but my screen resolution is wrong. I will need manually create xorg.conf?
[03:44] <nit-wit> Polah, you are missing the point your conversation is off topic have a little consideration eh.:)
[03:45] <pepinito> Someone here that has some experience with valgrind --tool=cachegrind? No matter what I do in my program, I keep getting the same D refs and D misses.
[03:45] <saulotoledo> ratzz: about the test, I can't confirm for now, nobody to test with me at skype :_(
[03:45] <ratzz> saulotoledo: manually creating the X config file is not a good idea.  far too much typing, if nothing else.
[03:45] <cablop> rationalOgre: nope, it failed after reloading the driver... then it seems it is a hw failure
[03:45] <ratzz> saulotoledo: doesn't skype have a self-test mode?  so you can check your camera and mic are working?
[03:46] <rationalOgre> cablop: I guess so.
[03:46] <thegoodcushion> How do I tell my Ubuntu not to ask for password after wake from suspend?
[03:46] <cablop> then, go for screwdriver and patiente
[03:46]  * cablop cablop> modprob patiente
[03:47] <rationalOgre> cablop: best of luck to yo
[03:47] <rationalOgre> *you
[03:47] <cablop> thanks
[03:47] <saulotoledo> ratzz: the self test do not open a video, only the audio return. And my system is running with 800x600 and do not detected my system resolutions, there are some way to create xorg.conf?
[03:47] <cablop> and i liked all that commands to test drivers and so on... do you have a link on that topic? willing to learn something more
[03:47] <robin0800> thegoodcushion, ubuntu-tweak unsuported! can
[03:48] <jburkholder> thegoodcushion: in screensaver preferences there's a Lock screen when screensaver is active checkbox, try turning that off?
[03:48] <thegoodcushion> jburkholder, already have done
[03:48] <thegoodcushion> that's not it
[03:48] <rationalOgre> cablop: Most of that was trial and error. Funny enough, and I hope I don't get crucified for saying this, setting up an Arch Linux install taught me most of what I was doing there.
[03:48] <thegoodcushion> And my Ubuntu doesn't ask for password on boot
[03:48] <jburkholder> I think I tried the same and couldn't figure it out
[03:49] <ratzz> depends on the distro saulotoledo.  should be the same thing as setting it up during installation.  is there an Administrator Settings utility?
[03:49] <rationalOgre> cablop: I learned a ton about linux in general setting up Arch
[03:49] <cablop> :)
[03:49] <cablop> hehe, go for gentoo now!!
[03:49] <cablop> OL, never xD
[03:49] <rationalOgre> And most of the skills translate to Ubuntu, with some exceptions. (like Upstart instead of a BSD style Init
[03:49] <|Anthony|> any idea if gdm and consolekit will ever support multi-seat set ups again
[03:49] <jburkholder> bleh, just use ubuntu
[03:50] <robin0800> jb try ubuntu-tweak that can do what you want and much more besides
[03:50] <ratzz> thegoodcushion: i know there's another place to set the restore from RAM/disk security. similar to the screensaver.  try power management section?
[03:50] <rationalOgre> cablop: One day I may try out Gentoo. For now tho I'm happy with my ubuntu laptop and my Arch server.
[03:50] <saulotoledo> ratzz: the gnome monitor preferences do not detect the resolutions. There are another utility?
[03:50] <robin0800> jburkholder,  try ubuntu-tweak that can do what you want and much more besides
[03:50]  * rationalOgre 's server runs his minecraft server. :D
[03:50] <jburkholder> robin0800: I have kids, need my screen to lock when I leave it
[03:51] <cablop> i'm loving my ubuntu netbook... runs fast and make it works like a laptop xD
[03:51] <ratzz> does ubuntu use sax2 ?
[03:51]  * cablop despite the small screen
[03:51] <Polah> thegoodcushion: A boot password wouldn't be part of Ubuntu, you'd need to set that in your BIOS if it supports it.
[03:52] <rationalOgre> cablop: cool. :)
[03:52] <thegoodcushion> Polah, no I mean a login password
[03:52] <thegoodcushion> it autologs in to my account
[03:52] <jburkholder> ratzz: umm?  for what?
[03:52] <Polah> thegoodcushion: Oh. You can disable that in the Login Screen settings you know.
[03:52] <ratzz> saulotoledo: "sudo Xorg -configure"
[03:53] <Kill-Joy> hey, what's the command that let's me know my ip, dns, hostmask, etc ??
[03:53] <robin0800> jburkholder, that is a menu entry to lock screen
[03:53] <Polah> Kill-Joy: ifconfig
[03:53] <thegoodcushion> Polah, yeah but what about wake from suspend?  How do I turn off asking for a password then?
[03:53] <Kill-Joy> seems ifconfig only gave me the first three numbers..
[03:54] <Polah> thegoodcushion: I think using the actual suspend commands would just suspend it without locking your screen first.
[03:54] <Polah> thegoodcushion: pm-suspend, pm-hibernate, pm-suspend-hybrid
[03:54] <jburkholder> thegoodcushion: someone suggested ubuntu-tweak, try that?
[03:54] <robin0800> thegoodcushion, you use ubuntu-tweak
[03:55] <ratzz> saulotoledo: and see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[03:55] <cablop> the unique bad thing about ubuntu in the netbook was the full disk encryption... but setting many encrypted partitions seemed to solve it.... the issue is kcrypt spawns just one process per partition, then becomming a bottleneck, multiple partitions each one with its own kcryptd anv oila
[03:55] <thegoodcushion> ubuntu-tweak isn't in the repos
[03:56] <saulotoledo> ratzz, Polah, strata_ and others: well, today I will stop here. Really thanks for your help. I will save this log and back tomorrow when I can test the video call again and the crash.
[03:56] <edbian> thegoodcushion: open gconf-editor
[03:56] <ratzz> thegoodcushion: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2061391&postcount=4
[03:56] <edbian> thegoodcushion: I think I found it.
[03:57] <Kill-Joy> yeah, ifconfig is not giving me dns servers
[03:57] <edbian> thegoodcushion: I found that key that ratzz just posted.
[03:57] <jburkholder> Kill-Joy: /etc/resolv.conf
[03:57] <poobird> can someone help me getting pptpd working?
[03:57] <ratzz> kill-joy  ifconfig doesn't give you dns servers   /etc/resolv.conf does
[03:57] <Kill-Joy> aaah thank you
[03:58] <poobird> can someone help me getting pptpd working?
[03:58] <Siph0n> when I try to add a row in iptables, it seems like it works (doesnt give an error), but than I do iptables --list , and i dont see anything. Any ideas? Here is the command I am using : iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --destination-port 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 10000
[03:59] <edbian> Siph0n: I think that sudo iptables --list does not show the 'prerouting' table
[03:59] <poobird> does anyone know much about pptpd?
[03:59] <Logan_> !anyone | poobird
[03:59] <Siph0n> edbian, correct
[03:59] <slakcphil> poobird, what's the problem?
[03:59] <edbian> Siph0n: so your rule won't show up there :P
[03:59] <Siph0n> edbian, how do i add that table ?
[04:00] <eman99> Hello. I am using apache cgi script to run a bash script. The script sends a single character out to a serial port. It works in bash but not from my apache cgi folder. The file is:
[04:00] <eman99> #!/bin/bash
[04:00] <eman99> stty ispeed 9600 ospeed 9600 -F /dev/ttyS1
[04:00] <eman99> echo "A">/dev/ttyS1
[04:00] <eman99> OUTPUT="$(date)"
[04:00] <FloodBot1> eman99: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <Haraken> how do i install java on ubuntu 11.04
[04:00] <edbian> Siph0n: To view it?  Hang on
[04:00] <Logan_> !java | Haraken
[04:00] <poobird> not sure i can connect to my vpn.. im trying to use pptpd
[04:00] <poobird> cant*
[04:00] <jburkholder> !java
[04:00] <Haraken> Logan_, I didn't see anything
[04:00] <Haraken> ah thanks
[04:00] <poobird> i think it has to do with routing
[04:00] <slakcphil> poobird, pptpd is the server?
[04:00] <poobird> or my dhcp
[04:01] <poobird> ya
[04:01] <slakcphil> and you cannot connect?
[04:01] <poobird> no
[04:01] <Siph0n> edbian, nm, think i got it.. its the nat table, and i googled how to view that table : iptables -t nat -L
[04:01] <slakcphil> what are you using for a client config etc...
[04:01] <poobird> i have my router takeing care of my shcp
[04:01] <edbian> Siph0n: sudo iptables -L PREROUTING
[04:01] <poobird> for client just nm
[04:01] <edbian> Siph0n: That too according to the man page
[04:01] <poobird> network manager
[04:02] <edbian> Siph0n: That is the example in the man page under -L   You should probably read the man page instead of asking others to read it for you :P
[04:02] <slakcphil> what type of error do you get? i have not used nm yet...
[04:02] <robin0800> eman99, did you make the script executable
[04:02] <poobird> no error, just cant connect
[04:02] <slakcphil> have you checked the ports and all that good stuff?
[04:03] <slakcphil> nc -v -w 3 host.com 443
[04:03] <poobird> i got my router taking care of dhcp, so do i need to setup some kind of dhcp server on the pc im vpning into?
[04:03] <Siph0n> edbian, ok thx.
[04:03] <eman99> yes
[04:03] <eman99> it does execute
[04:03] <edbian> Siph0n: sure
[04:03] <tyler_d> what is the name of teh alsa sound control? mine has dissapeared from the panel(unity enabled)
[04:04] <slakcphil> yeah with nat or something
[04:04] <thegoodcushion> oh this Ubuntu Tweak is goooooood
[04:04] <eman99> it even put out the webpage when i echoed the mime line and a basic hello workd webpage
[04:04] <slakcphil> i use openvpn
[04:04] <slakcphil> openvpn_as
[04:04] <slakcphil> it is almost too easy
[04:04] <poobird> thx ill check that out
[04:05] <slakcphil> it covers up to 2 users plus an admin without purchase of liscense
[04:05] <whytehorse> Is this an appropriate channel for help with Ubuntu on Amazon enterprise cloud?
[04:05] <slakcphil> license
[04:05] <rationalOgre> tyler_d: alsa-mixer?
[04:06] <smw> whytehorse, you have many options. Here, ##aws and ##ubuntu-cloud
[04:06] <robin0800> thegoodcushion, yes it is but remember it is unsupported and Ubuntu don't like it
[04:06] <smw> whytehorse, #ubuntu-cloud *
[04:07] <nawk> does anyone know which package is lsinitrd is part of?
[04:07] <smw> whytehorse, although, #ubuntu-cloud probably has quite a bit of overlap in people as here ;-)
[04:07] <whytehorse> thank you
[04:08] <dforthman-Mobile> hi
[04:08] <jonesst1> apt-ache search lsinitrd  ?
[04:08] <jonesst1> apt-cache
[04:09] <churly> Im looking for a black gtk2 theme that actually works.  So far the ones I've tried have all had some major failings (can't see stuff, black on black)
[04:11] <Haraken> how do I set google chrome as the preferred browser?  It is not in the drop down list that can be seen from System>preferences> preferred applications
[04:13] <almoxarife> Haraken: in chrome itself
[04:13] <c2tarun> Haraken, well it is in preferred applications
[04:13] <jburkholder> Haraken: I have it listed in the dropdown also
[04:13] <nawk> does anyone know which package is lsinitrd is part of?
[04:14] <almoxarife> nawk: an opensuse one?
[04:14] <Haraken> almoxarife, I've set mine as default browser from the actual browser but that doesn't seem to do the trick
[04:14] <Kill-Joy> hmm..seems running resolv.conf is not giving me dns servers?
[04:15] <nawk> whichever one on ubuntu
[04:15] <nawk> almoxarife, I need to unpack and dig into an initramfs
[04:16] <cryptodira> the fine folks at toshiba tell me that the failure of the backlit keyboard operating beyond POST is a problem with ubuntu.....anyone here have a solution for making the backlit keyboard light up after POST ??   ( amd/64 10.10 satellite notebook)
[04:16] <almoxarife> Haraken: I see chromium as a preferred app, not sure why you don't see it
[04:16] <Kill-Joy> uh... what if resolv.conf only gives me one name server?
[04:17] <Haraken> I'm guessing it is possible mine isn't showing up because I didn't install from the ubuntu repository
[04:17] <almoxarife> Kill-Joy: name servers are not configured in resolv.conf , the file is autocreated by the network manager
[04:18] <almoxarife> Haraken: that may do it.
[04:18] <Kill-Joy> ah, right..
[04:18] <Kill-Joy> a really stupid question.. are dns server numbers the same for all computers.. i.e. going through the same router ?
[04:18] <celthunder> they can be or can be different
[04:19] <almoxarife> Kill-Joy: 'numbers'?
[04:19] <jonesst1> dns server numbers? you mean IP addresses?
[04:19] <Kill-Joy> yes
[04:19] <Kill-Joy> lol
[04:19] <slakcphil> Kill-Joy, as root...        echo nameserver 4.2.2.1 > /etc/resolv.conf
[04:19] <jonesst1> routers dont determine an application usually
[04:19] <celthunder> Kill-Joy, if you use the dhcp servers dns servers yeah they're all probably the same
[04:19] <celthunder> Kill-Joy, use 8.8.8.8 and 4.2.2.2
[04:20] <Kill-Joy> all right..
[04:20] <aGrizzly> So I've installed Ubuntu x64 11.04 on my desktop, but I'm unable to get my sound card or graphics card to work.
[04:20] <almoxarife> Kill-Joy: an IP is an IP unless it's a lan IP
[04:20] <Kill-Joy> all right..
[04:21] <slakcphil> aGrizzly paste lspci and dmesg
[04:21] <jburkholder> nawk: do you have initrd.img?  its a cpio archive, maybe gzipped too
[04:21] <aGrizzly> slakcphil: It's kind of long
[04:21] <gears> hello
[04:22] <jburkholder> haha
[04:22] <slakcphil> aGrizzly, in paste bin
[04:22] <gears> this is the first irc iv ever joined lol
[04:22] <gears> >.> how does it work
[04:22] <Azelphur> gears: seems you figured it out already, otherwise you wouldn't be communicating with us
[04:22] <aGrizzly> Derp...
[04:22] <gears> well its simple
[04:22] <slakcphil> :)
[04:23] <gears> but is this there is all to it
[04:23] <jburkholder> this is pretty much it
[04:23] <Azelphur> gears: no, go read a book.
[04:23] <gears> >.>
[04:23] <gears> so you guys use ubuntu
[04:23] <almoxarife> I got a money tree with mine
[04:23] <nawk> hi jburkholder, I am having a hell of a problem with booting natty after a fresh install.  particularly, the system reboots everytime after loading '/scripts/local-bottom' and '/scripts/init-bottom'
[04:23] <nawk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWT_pJdiCeE
[04:23] <nawk> jburkholder, take a look (it's only 30 secs long)
[04:24] <jburkholder> nawk: natty is what? 11.04?
[04:24] <cryptodira> the fine folks at toshiba tell me that the failure of the backlit keyboard lighting up beyond POST is a problem with ubuntu.....anyone here have a solution for making the backlit keyboard light up after POST ??   ( amd/64 10.10 satellite notebook)
[04:24] <gears> anyone know any good addons for web design wth ubuntu
[04:24] <Azelphur> gears: there are thousands of IRC servers, each can have thousands of IRC channels, and even more users. If it exists, there's probably a channel for it, somewhere. :)
[04:24] <gears> my ubuntu wont play sound does anyone know a fix for that
[04:24] <capleton> Hi everyone, this is a little beyond my level... Could someone tell me why this HD keeps on failing?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/621437/
[04:24] <nawk> jburkholder: yes, actually, after the installation it will boot into ubuntu (unity desktop) with no problem, all subsequent boots fails
[04:25] <Haraken> ok yeah so installing chrome from the ubuntu repository seemed to do the trick
[04:25] <nawk> jburkholder, i need to dig into initramfs to determine whether if it is in fact a hardware (ssd) issue.  (what's strange is that I don't have this problem prior to 11.04)
[04:25] <jburkholder> nawk: wierd
[04:26] <gears> so how do you start your own IRC
[04:26] <l0lcat> hey, i am on live now. i want to dual boot ubuntu with windows 7. but it wouldn't detect that i has a Windows loader.
[04:26] <brown_fern> gears: Yes, I run Ubuntu. Do you have a question? there is also a #ubuntu-beginners and an offtopic channel. I don't mean to sound off-putting.
[04:26] <l0lcat> i think i can solve that by being a superuser, but, idk the pass
[04:26] <jburkholder> nawk: lsinitrd seems to not be able available as a package?  I saw an rpm on google, google harder?
[04:26] <Itqan> hi
[04:27] <RPG-Master> I'm thinking about getting an Wireless N router. Does Ubuntu work well with N?
[04:27] <Itqan> i have ubuntu 11.04, what if i say i dont like the unity interface and want gnome one back?
[04:27] <almoxarife> RPG-Master: NO,
[04:27] <RPG-Master> almoxarife: D:
[04:27] <nawk> jburkholder, :p
[04:27] <RPG-Master> almoxarife: Whats the problem?
[04:27] <jburkholder> nawk: get hardware that works
[04:27] <almoxarife> RPG-Master: but if you figure it out tell me
[04:28] <gears> <.< so does anyone know how to fix ubuntu if its not playing sound
[04:28] <RPG-Master> almoxarife: Not droppin' money on something I have to fight with. :/
[04:28] <thegoodcushion> Itqan, then you will be publicly flogged.  No, log in to Ubuntu Classic interface and it will be back to normal
[04:28] <l0lcat> ugh, thanks
[04:29] <RPG-Master> So, anyone have any recommendations for a wireless G router with good range?
[04:29] <aGrizzly> Alright.
[04:29] <aGrizzly> Second try.
[04:29] <aGrizzly> Here is my lspci and dmesg - Not sure how to get my sound/video card to be accepted.
[04:29] <aGrizzly> http://pastebin.com/213gUkKi
[04:29] <icewolf> hello
[04:29] <l0lcat> ok, i'll try again asking.
[04:29] <jburkholder> RPG-Master: wrt54g, big antennas
[04:29] <icewolf> anybody in
[04:29] <capleton> HD problems, could anyone help?    http://paste.ubuntu.com/621437/
[04:29] <gears> so is puppy linux anygood
[04:30] <ryan17> hey I really need some help here. How can I see what my password is when logged in?
[04:30] <hypetech> ryan17: you can't
[04:30] <jburkholder> gears: no only ubuntu is any good
[04:30] <hypetech> you could look in the /etc/shadow file and get the hash, but that won't do you much good if you have a decent password
[04:30] <gears> what about debian lol
[04:30] <cryptodira> the fine folks at toshiba tell me that the failure of the backlit keyboard lighting up beyond POST is a problem with ubuntu.....anyone here have a solution for making the backlit keyboard light up after POST ??   ( amd/64 10.10 satellite notebook)
[04:30] <ryan17> I changed it and can't remember it exactly, somehow was able to log in
[04:31] <RPG-Master> jburkholder: Thanks. :)
[04:31] <l0lcat> Ubuntu 11.04 does not detect that I have a windows 7 loader. it just detects the whole drive, leaving me the option
[04:31] <l0lcat> to Erase the Whole Drive, and make ur own partition (which does the same thing, does not detect the partitions)
[04:31] <celestius> so i'm running the windows installer on what claims to be an intel 64-bit machine, but it's d/ling the amd64 torrent.
[04:31] <hypetech> ryan17: somehow? well if you can somehow remember it one more time, you can just change it again with passwd
[04:31] <jburkholder> RPG-Master: I use openwrt on mine, works great
[04:31] <celestius> is this expected behavior?
[04:31] <ryan17> yea
[04:31] <digbit> celestius, thats the proper file disgard the AMD part
[04:31] <ZykoticK9_> celestius, amd64 works on intel 64 CPUs
[04:31] <ryan17> see, the thing is its a long one, and I might of spelled it wrong or something
[04:32] <celestius> ah ok
[04:32] <celestius> cool ty all
[04:32] <Itqan> <thegoodcushion oh darn my english skill. i did not mean i want devs to remove unity interface form ubuntu i meant "i dont like unity interface coz it works lil buggy for me so how do i switch back to gnome one"?
[04:32] <hypetech> ryan17: reboot into single user mode and change your password without knowing the current one
[04:32] <Itqan> :P
[04:32] <l0lcat> T_T
[04:32]  * l0lcat is being ignored
[04:32] <ryan17> i tried that before but it required me to loging to root with it
[04:32] <thegoodcushion> Itqan, at the login screen, select Ubuntu Classic
[04:32] <rodgerr> I upgraded to 11 and It worked for a few weeks although it always said that it "out of range errors". It would seem to reset after the out of range error. Today it comes up with "out of range" and then it dies in a black screen.  I am able to boot to an old disk of 9 which is how I am connecting to the forum.  The disk utility in 9 says the main disk is healthy.
[04:33] <hypetech> ryan17: you're pretty much out of luck then as far as I know
[04:33] <Itqan> thegoodcushion ty ill try that
[04:33] <ryan17> k
[04:33] <ZykoticK9_> rodgerr, "out of range" is typically a Monitor message, saying it cannot display the resolution/refresh that you've set
[04:34] <jburkholder> nawk: is this was freebsd I'd say hookup a serial console and use kernel gdb, dunno how to do that with linux
[04:34] <ryan17> I'll keep typing away in the user settings and hope i hit it
[04:34] <rodgerr> But nothing else changed and it was displaying until today.  I think there was an update today but that was the only change.
[04:35] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo apt-get update' obtains as the first line: "Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty InRelease." What does 'InRelease' mean?
[04:36] <Itqan> i have another small query i have installed ubutu with wubi, cant i access the files of te drive i installed ubuntu in
[04:36] <rodgerr> ZykoticK9 Can I update / fix the MBR on the main disk without touching the rest of the disk?  The only thing on that disk is ubuntu 11 which was updated from 10 thought the update program.
[04:37] <ZykoticK9_> !tab > rodgerr
[04:37] <ZykoticK9_> rodgerr, yes to reinstall MBR see the !grub2 factoid link
[04:37] <ZykoticK9_> !grub2 > rodgerr
[04:37] <tsimpson> rodgerr: you can modify the MBR without changing the rest of the disk, but it should be done from a live CD or USB if it has any mounted partitions
[04:38] <cryptodira> the fine folks at toshiba tell me that the failure of the backlit keyboard lighting up beyond POST is a problem with ubuntu.....anyone here have a solution for making the backlit keyboard light up after POST ??   ( amd/64 10.10 satellite notebook)
[04:38] <somethinginteres> I've recently purchased a Toshiba NB5550D netbook, which doesn't have as good battery life as my previous netbook. I've read about lesswatts.org in an effort to maximise the life of the netbook on battery power but am wondering if there's a script of some kind for 11.04 that applies the recommended setting automatically?
[04:38] <capleton> Can anyone here troubleshoot dmesg logs?
[04:39] <rodgerr> Going to try to rename monitor.xml first - BRB
[04:39] <vitao> hi, somone pls could help me? i have instaled a windows 7 partition and im trying to install ubuntu after that, i have to separated partitions ready for ubuntu, the problem is that ubuntu shows a crazy partitioning system diferent from windows that show all the partitions without problem, someone experienced that?
[04:39] <jburkholder> capleton: is there a problem that you're having?
[04:39] <mutant> anyone have any luck installing a Brother scanner (networked) with brsaneconfig2?
[04:39] <mutant> I am getting an error "Invalid Model Name"
[04:40] <capleton> jburkholder: yeah, an external hd is failing intermittently, and I would love to know if there is anything I can do to fix it
[04:40] <capleton> jburkholder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/621437/
[04:40] <bullgard4> capleton: To troubleshoot dmesg logs may be a huge task. You better put here in this channel a more specific question about one or two lines in dmesg output which are of interest to you.
[04:41] <jburkholder> capleton: what's the problem with the disk?
[04:41] <capleton> bullgard4: if I understood more of what was in the dmesg log I would :/    I'll see if I can't find anything with the hd
[04:42] <aGrizzly>  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[04:42] <capleton> jburkholder: The red light on the external HD will go on, and it will no longer be connectable.  I have to turn the drive off and back on again to get it to work
[04:42] <aGrizzly> nvidia 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[AXV5] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[04:42] <Ghost_Who_Walks> guys what does this command do "sudo unity --distro"
[04:42] <jburkholder> capleton: did you try a different enclosure?
[04:43] <jburkholder> capleton: probably replace either the enclosure or the disk or both
[04:43] <capleton> jburkholder: I'll give it a shot
[04:43] <capleton> Thanks for the help
[04:44] <capleton> :)
[04:44] <jburkholder> no problem
[04:45] <brown_fern> vitao: do you mean the way in which the drives and partitions are named? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_file_system#Naming_conventions
[04:46] <cryptodira> the fine folks at toshiba tell me that the failure of the backlit keyboard lighting up beyond POST is a problem with ubuntu.....anyone here have a solution for making the backlit keyboard light up after POST ??   ( amd/64 10.10 satellite notebook)
[04:46] <widewake> Hello, my comp janitor seems to be broken, i launch it and the window is empty, i really need to clean my comp, i tried reinstalling it did not help
[04:47] <widewake> ---| Hello, my comp janitor seems to be broken, i launch it and the window is empty, i really need to clean my comp, i tried reinstalling it did not help
[04:48] <jburkholder> I don't understand any of that
[04:48] <vitao> hmn no, in windows i have 5 partitions with sizes etc, in ubuntu i detect 4 with crazy sizes like 1mb 4mb, no used space(not detected) and 2 partitions really big, i installed 2 prograns to see the partitions all then shows me right size and partitions, but on ubuntu i get that wrong
[04:48] <brown_fern> vitao: I don't know what you mean by "crazy." Windows 7 will make two partitions, a 100 MB partition and  yet another partition being the size you allow it to be.
[04:48] <vitao> crazy is about the size
[04:49] <vitao> in windows i have 2 for windows a 100mb part, and a 120gb part
[04:49] <vitao> but in linux i get 1mb part, and a 4mb partition
[04:49] <vitao> wrong size, and undetectable used space
[04:49] <rationalOgre> cryptodira: model #?
[04:49] <bhairava> hey. any easy way to make a bootable usb drive with ubuntu installer on it, from debian ?
[04:50] <brown_fern> vitao: Ubuntu Linux has a mandatory two partitions that it makes, but it can make many more when that is specified by the user.
[04:50] <widewake> -- needs some tips on how to give ubuntu a good cleaning, my computer janitor is broken and ive been browsing through google
[04:51] <jburkholder> widewake: why do you think your computer is dirty?  you said you reinstalled?
[04:51] <vitao> yep i know, i only dont know how to procede, i only need ubuntu to see the partitions equals windows, so i can install ubuntu on the reserved space
[04:51] <nit-wit> vitao, take a screenshot of the gparted partitioner on the ubuntu live cd and imagebin it.
[04:51] <brown_fern> vitao: are the 1 MB and 4 MB partitions at the very start and end of the hard disk drive?
[04:52] <mutant> anyone have experience with installing Brother Network Scanner?
[04:52] <Itqan> i have installed ubutu with wubi, cant i access the files of te drive i installed ubuntu in?????
[04:52] <nit-wit> Itqan, from ubuntu?
[04:52] <Itqan> yws
[04:52] <Itqan> yes
[04:52] <mutant> "brsaneconfig2  -a  name=(name  your  device)  model=(model  name)  ip=xx.xx.xx.xx" is returning "Invalid model name"
[04:53] <rypervenche> Itqan: /host
[04:53] <mutant> quotes and parenthesis are removed
[04:53] <Itqan> k
[04:53] <mutant> and scanner driver is installed
[04:53] <nit-wit> Itqan, keep looking  think it is in filesytem media just guessing though.
[04:53] <widewake> jburkholder, my computer has been slower lately, and being the first few months of using ubuntu i know i had alot of junk on it
[04:53] <widewake> jburkholder,  and yes i reinstalled computer janitor it does not work
[04:54] <jburkholder> widewake: junk as in what?  you installed a bunch of packages that you don't use?
[04:54] <widewake> jburkholder,  most likely yes
[04:54] <vitao> what is the `imagebin` it site?
[04:54] <Itqan> nit-wit running on win right now :P idk how to use irc on ubuntu
[04:54] <Itqan> :P
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> !paste | vitao
[04:54] <widewake> found this for cleaing up http://maketecheasier.com/2clickupdate-optimizes-ubuntu-with-single-click/2010/11/24 thought id share
[04:55] <vitao> ok tnks
[04:55] <jburkholder> widewake: don't think that will make your computer slow, are you almost out of disk space?  did you check what processes are running?
[04:55] <nit-wit> Itqan, I don't understand your last posts.
[04:56] <icewolf> ??
[04:56] <Itqan> nit-wit i mean im using windows right now. so cant look it now
[04:56] <jburkholder> widewake: I think you need to remove packages you don't want with the package manager or apt-get, computer janitor seems to be about duplicates
[04:56] <Itqan> ok leem see
[04:56] <Itqan> thanxx guys
[04:56] <Itqan> bye
[04:57] <cryptodira> rationalOgre,  toshiba A660D..... all amd64 with 10.10 only.
[04:57] <vitao> i will rebut to get the SS and im backing
[04:57] <widewake> jburkholder, i believe i ave enough gbs
[04:57] <vitao> windows partitions image
[04:58] <vitao> http://imagebin.org/157274
[04:58] <jburkholder> widewake: did you check what processes are running?  is something using lots of cpu?
[04:59] <usm> is there a fast ubuntu
[04:59] <widewake> jburkholder, no i did not, i will look =)
[05:00] <rypervenche> usm: Nope
[05:00] <widewake> jburkholder, how do i check that jburk?
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> usm, yes - it's called debian ;)
[05:00] <dors> hello everyone, after upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10 i lost both keyboard and mouse in X (gnome, kde), so i can't login,any ideas appreciated, thanks
[05:01] <rypervenche> ZykoticK9: Right you are :D
[05:01] <usm> i try debian but is breaks when install in virtual machine
[05:01] <usm> it always fail install
[05:01] <usm> with multiple version
[05:01] <brown_fern> vitao: During my last multi-boot install, Windows XP, which I shrunk to make room for linux, did not show an unallocated space at the end of the hard disk drive, which is why I asked. Linux did see this space and so I had it absorbed into the larger volume of unallocated space to then give it to Linux.
[05:01] <usm> ubuntu install
[05:01] <jburkholder> widewake: system monitor, processes tab, click the cpu column to sort by cpu usage
[05:01] <ptley> usm: Do you have enough ram
[05:01] <usm> but is not as good as debian
[05:01] <usm> i have 4gb of ram
[05:01] <FloodBot1> usm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <cryptodira> the fine folks at toshiba tell me that the failure of the backlit keyboard lighting up beyond POST is a problem with ubuntu.....anyone here have a solution for making the backlit keyboard light up after POST ??   ( amd/64 10.10 satellite notebook)
[05:02] <usm> well did you try installing windows
[05:03] <widewake> jburkholder, some of the larged processes are plugin container, ubuntone-syncdaemon, gnome power manager
[05:04] <jburkholder> widewake: if all is normal you should see gnome-system-monitor at the top when you sort by cpu usage, click it until the little arrow is pointing up
[05:05] <robin0800> mutant, look on brothers site you have to put the printers id somewhere I know info is on their site
[05:05] <widewake> jburkholder, i should see?
[05:05] <widewake> jburkholder,  oh.
[05:05] <Amtrask> Hello I am having a problem with the official gcc in 10.04 64-bit. Every time I try to compile something (even a very basic, bare-bones .cpp file) it gets strange error messages
[05:06] <jburkholder> Amtrask: what are the error messages?
[05:06] <Amtrask> can I paste them here?
[05:07] <jburkholder> use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:07] <widewake> jburkholder,  yes i see gnome system monitor
[05:07] <Amtrask> jburkholder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/621457/
[05:07] <bhairava> any idea as to why usb-creator-gtk sees no 'removable hard drives' although my usb stick is in ?
[05:08] <jburkholder> widewake: watch it for a few minutes
[05:08] <xrfang> hi, I try to install hp's vmware view client, but the architecture mismatches, I used --force-architecture, but dpkg complains about missing dependencies, how to fix that?
[05:08] <Amtrask> jburkholder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/621458/ here's one with the code and errors
[05:08] <Amtrask> I admit I'm not a professional but I am pretty sure that file has compiled before
[05:09] <robin0800> bhairava, you may have to partition and format it first
[05:09] <jonesst1> xrfang doesnt it say wahts missing?
[05:09] <vitao> hi guys here  is the images from ubuntu x windows partitions:
[05:09] <vitao> http://imagebin.org/157274  http://imagebin.org/157277
[05:10] <widewake> jburkholder,  it jumps around, 18-40
[05:10] <xrfang> jonesst1: it said, and i checked with synaptic, all libs are installed
[05:10] <jburkholder> Amtrask: use g++ for c++ code, g++ test.cpp compiles and links here
[05:10] <xrfang> I suspect it is looking for 32bit lib while system is 64bit??
[05:10] <xrfang> it wanted libasound2 for example
[05:10] <brown_fern> repost..
[05:10] <bhairava> robin0800: 2 vfats ? did that, still nothing
[05:10] <Amtrask> jeez
[05:10] <Amtrask> alright, thanks jburkholder, that worked
[05:10] <jburkholder> widewake: does something else show up above gnome-system-monitor ?
[05:11] <jburkholder> Amtrask: you're welcome :)
[05:11] <brown_fern> vitao: During my last multi-boot install, Windows XP, which I shrunk to make room for linux, did not show an unallocated space at the end of the hard disk drive, which is why I asked. Linux did see this space and so I had it absorbed into the larger volume of unallocated space to then give it to Linux.
[05:11] <widewake> jburkholder,  plugin container
[05:11] <jburkholder> widewake: what's the cpu usage?
[05:11] <widewake> jburkholder,  at 100+
[05:11] <jburkholder> oh
[05:11] <brown_fern> vitao: It caused me a little worry though as I couldn't figure out what this unused space was, if Windows didn't see it was it part of some recovery partition, I wondered.
[05:11] <robin0800> bhairava, restart usb creator
[05:11] <jburkholder> widewake: well, that's your problem, I don't know what plugin container is though
[05:12] <bhairava> robin0800: any special requirements for the 2 partitions ?
[05:13] <widewake> jburkholder, ok thankyou burk =)
[05:13] <cryptodira> the fine folks at toshiba tell me that the failure of the backlit keyboard lighting up beyond POST is a problem with ubuntu.....anyone here have a solution for making the backlit keyboard light up after POST ??   ( amd/64 10.10 satellite A660D notebook)
[05:13] <widewake> ---> anyone know what plugin container is?
[05:13] <widewake> its using 100+ of my cpu, im feeling the urge to kill the process
[05:13] <widewake> test
[05:13] <qin> widewake: Flash?
[05:14] <bhairava> widewake: a flash container for mozilla. kill it.
[05:14] <ZykoticK9> xrfang, getlibs is a super handy script to install 32bit libs on 64bit systems
[05:14] <dors> mmm flash does that, that shitty thing
[05:14] <widewake> qin,  flash? ah hmm
[05:14] <dors> killall npviewer.bin
[05:14] <jburkholder> widewake: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1528836
[05:14] <widewake> thats what i thought, closed whatever i was streaming hehe
[05:14] <robin0800> bhairava, you only need one the creator handles the persistent part
[05:14] <nit-wit> vitao, did you want a dynamic set up or was this caused by putting to many partition on the HD. You also have the linux partitions reading as ntfs. I have never seen s wubi from the disk manager, but I doubt that is what you have.
[05:15] <widewake> jburkholder,  k lookin
[05:15] <dors> after upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10 i lost both keyboard and mouse in X (gnome, kde), has anyone seen/solved this issue?
[05:15] <bhairava> robin0800: i don't get it. i have 2 vfat partitions. do i need to mount them ?
[05:16] <usm> dors:  format and reinstall
[05:16] <robin0800> bhairava, you only need one the creator handles the persistent part
[05:16] <dors> heheh thanks usm
[05:17] <bhairava> robin0800: tried with only one, also no result. it simply shows nothing on 'disk to use' area
[05:17] <vitao> i need a instalation of ubuntu, i could use wubi but i dont get the espected performance using it, so i instaled windows and trying to install linux
[05:18] <robin0800> bhairava, did you format it? use disk utility
[05:18] <bhairava> robin0800: any special requirements for the one partition i need ? should it be linked in /usb/something ? or something ?
[05:18] <bhairava> robin0800: it's formated with vfat type
[05:20] <robin0800> bhairava, use disk-utility to partition and format first
[05:21] <brown_fern> vitao: Those partitions seem to be so small that they can be accounted for by the speculative suggestion that the file systems involved may "perceive" the physical space on the hard disk drive differently. The space is the then the smallest amount of a thing that is left over after the partitions have used the drive as they each will.
[05:21] <brown_fern> vitao: That's just a guess, however.
[05:22] <bhairava> robin0800: i partitioned it with fdisk, and formated as vfat. is disk-utility some type of special app ? standard fdisk doesn't work ?
[05:23] <mortal1> howdy folks, I'm trying to enable java in firefox.  In slackware I used to be able to just make a symlink to the .so file from my jdk install, but firefox isn't picking it up now
[05:23] <robin0800> bhairava, fdisk is dos disk utility is linux
[05:23] <mortal1> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 74 2011-06-07 23:17 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /home/mortal/packages/jdk1.6.0_20/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so <-- ls output
[05:24] <mortal1> ^ that's in /usr/lib/firefox
[05:24] <bhairava> robin0800: fdisk (util-linux-ng 2.17.2)
[05:24] <mortal1> * /usr/lib/firefox/plugins I should say
[05:25] <nit-wit> vitao_, did your computer come with a gpt dynamic set up. If not you have created it by exceeding the paetition amount allowed on a single HD.
[05:25] <nit-wit> vitao_, also tab nicks so we can see your reply.
[05:25] <vitao_> how i can tab nicks?
[05:25] <robin0800> bhairava, well it don't work so try my suggestion as at least it will do no harm
[05:26] <najib> hi, is that true ubuntu's qemu did not have vde support?
[05:26] <rationalOgre> cryptodira: apparently it's a known issue and is being worked on
[05:26] <bhairava> robin0800: i don't have disk-utility, i'm doing this from a debian system
[05:26] <rationalOgre> cryptodira: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/683133
[05:26] <nit-wit> vitao_, type the first couple of letters and complete with the tab button.
[05:26] <vitao_> im with a asus g73jh notebook
[05:26] <arooni> hi folks.  i have ubuntu 10.04 and the audio sounds *horrible* ... theres scratchyness whenever i try to play anything like a local mp3.  if i play via flash; no issues whatsoever.  can someone help me fix this?  sound blaster live value
[05:26] <vitao_> nit-wit: ok tnks
[05:27] <vitao_> nit-wit: man im with a g73jh asus notebook
[05:27] <nit-wit> vitao_, I am assuming here that you have no isea what I'm talking about am I correct?
[05:27] <robin0800> bhairava, you could install it is a gnome program
[05:27] <nit-wit> *idea
[05:27] <cryptodira> rationalOgre,  Thank You!
[05:28] <vitao_> nit-wit: yeah never seen that
[05:28] <vidalh3> hi
[05:28] <rationalOgre> cryptodira: You're welcome.
[05:31] <mortal1> can anyone tell me why you can't just drop a .so file into the firefox plugins dir anymore?
[05:31] <nit-wit> vitao_, I can't find on line whether that computer came with that partitioning set up, and don't know how to fix it if it didn't.
[05:31] <usm> mortal1: security vulnerability
[05:31] <mortal1> It used to work virtually everwhere, and it's kind of annoying that it doesn't seemt to work in ubuntu
[05:31] <usm> an obvious
[05:31] <usm> one
[05:32] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo apt-get update' obtains as the first line: "Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty InRelease." What does 'InRelease' mean?
[05:32] <mortal1> usm: alright, how would i tell firefox to use the jre out of a jdk that I downloaded from sun?
[05:32] <brown_fern> nit-wit: Are you saying that vitao may be out of primary partitions having used all four? Perhaps I don't understand.
[05:33] <bhairava> robin0800: does it have to be a special size ? or any other requirement for it ?
[05:33] <usm> mortal1: i dont know i dont use ubuntu
[05:33] <mortal1> usm: but you do use linux don't you?
[05:33] <vitao_> nit-wit: whell ok nit-wit realy tnks to u
[05:33] <usm> mortal1: only command line on server
[05:33] <nit-wit> brown_fern, he has 5 partitions and it is dynamic.
[05:33] <mortal1> ah
[05:34] <pksadiq> ALT+CTRL + T or ALT+F2 is not working on my ubuntu 11.04 classic mode,any body tried this? any fixes? I have enabled compiz
[05:34] <brown_fern> nit-wit: okay.
[05:35] <nit-wit> vitao_, to help another here you have to have some basic knowledge of your set up or be willing to find it out. If you turned your HD dynamic the IIRC is not the place for help, at least not here probably.
[05:36] <bullgard4> pksadiq: T+CTRL + T or ALT+F2 works on my Natty. Compiz is not activated.
[05:36] <pksadiq> bullgard4: did you try in classic mode?
[05:37] <bullgard4> pksadiq: Yes, I am speaking about Classic mode.
[05:37] <vitao_> nit-wit: ok i got it, i just dont know what u think about ' dynamic hd conf' cause im brazilian and maybe u think some that in my country i could use some-else
[05:38] <pksadiq> bullgard4: well, I tried that, it works without compiz, can you try it with compiz activated
[05:38] <bullgard4> pksadiq: Let me see.
[05:39] <brcasper72> is anyone here using gnome 3 on natty? (can i ask this here? lol)
[05:39] <pksadiq> brcasper72: not supported yet
[05:39] <pksadiq> !gnome3 | brcasper72
[05:39] <hacim> i'm trying to install xchat, its not available in the sources on this live CD
[05:40] <mortal1> can anyone tell me how to point firefox to a sun jdk plugin?  I've tried symlinking to the .so but that didn't work
[05:41] <nit-wit> vitao_, no my concern is that you don't know if it was dynamic to begin with, and you have two partitons named linux and swap and are ntfs partitions. Ubuntu and swap wont work in a ntfs. It looks like you removed the recovery and added 2 ntfs and tried to install ubuntu.
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> mortal1, why not add the partner repo and simply install it using apt?
[05:42] <jburkholder> mortal1: did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[05:42] <nit-wit> vitao_, I would post at the ubuntu forums for help on this.
[05:42] <mortal1> jburkholder: yes, It mentions the sun jdk, but not how to get the plugin working once you have it
[05:43] <vitao_> nit-wit: no nit, i first let this 2 partitions without filesystem, i only formated then to label then for the SS's i have made, you think think that i can fix this formatting this partitions?
[05:44] <vitao_> nit-wit: ok nit-wit tnks to u and brown_fern
[05:44] <jburkholder> mortal1: what about this one? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins
[05:45] <mortal1> jburkholder: that links to the first one
[05:45] <bullgard4> pksadiq: I cannot help you in this moment: My Synaptic throws an error which I am asked to report to Launchpad. --  Sorry.
[05:45] <nit-wit> brown_fern, that was a messed up setup.;)
[05:46] <cypha> can I make "v" a shortcut for opening a file with vim?
[05:46] <jburkholder> mortal1: the icedtea plugin runs java applets, is that what you want?
[05:46] <pksadiq> bullgard4: well, may be somebody else
[05:47] <mortal1> jburkholder: no, *sigh I really wanted to use the plugin that came with my jdk
[05:47] <aGrizzly> If anyone has a moment - Tried to get Surround sound to work, but Center Channel/Subwoofer aren't working. http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0e607df562a9ab60cf0fdb8e485699c3268ed288
[05:47] <mortal1> but it looks like I have to install a package which will likely mess with my jdk install
[05:47] <pksadiq> anybody here working on natty with compiz, if so please check ALT+CTRL+T or ALt+F2 in Classic mode
[05:47] <jburkholder> mortal1: dunno then
[05:48] <cypha> can I make "v" a shortcut for opening a file with vim?
[05:48] <bixgomez> hello, having some trouble connecting to my ubuntu machine via Mac screen sharing app. any advice?
[05:48] <nit-wit> pksadiq, the crtl-alt-t does not bring up a terminal the alt-f2 brings up the run a command
[05:48] <brown_fern> nit-wit: I think you made better sense of it than I could have. I think vitao may not be a native English speaker and is likely new to Linux on top of that. That's a lot to overcome on an English-based channel, he/she needs to find resources that can maximize that person's talents, and this isn't it.
[05:48] <rationalOgre> cypha: yes. edit your ~/.bash_aliases
[05:49] <bixgomez> I can do it locally, using internal IP, but not using the external IP
[05:49] <pksadiq> nit-wit: for me both doesn't work, even I couldn't move the opened windows :( , can you please report a bug?
[05:50] <chomping> guys, does the Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud can run images from other linux distro's? like centos?
[05:50] <Fudge> hi i have a freeze on gdm, what can i look for to track down the problem?
[05:50] <jburkholder> cypha: look at .bashrc for some alias examples, alias v='vim'
[05:50] <cypha> rationalOgre, I don't see that file in my home directory
[05:52] <przemek_> ;
[05:52] <przemek_> ;;l,ll
[05:52] <pksadiq> nit-wit: but first check whether gnome compatibily is turned on in ccsm and check the command again
[05:52] <nit-wit> pksadiq, it is
[05:52] <pksadiq> ^command^shortcut
[05:53] <bullgard4> '~$ ubuntu-bug synaptic' obtains: "Invalid problem report. Could not determine package or source package name. Close." What should I do?
[05:53] <jburkholder> cypha: use ls -a
[05:53] <cypha> jburkholder, sorry I don't see where in that file to put this?
[05:53] <vitao> nit-wit: i see the problem, my partitions are dynamic cause i have windows home only and then he screwed up my hd
[05:54] <jburkholder> cypha: at the end
[05:54] <pksadiq> nit-wit: can you move the windows? does the negative screen works well? if I make my screen negative, it doesn't inverts the colour of the menu Items
[05:54] <vitao> nit-wit: i will format now kkkk im mad man
[05:54] <cypha> k
[05:54] <cypha> thanks
[05:55] <jburkholder> cypha: you can also create .bash_asliases and put it there
[05:55] <przemek_> how write makefile??
[05:55] <TeamColtra> I am trying to find an application that I have used before to fix my audio problems (my computer getting my internal mic to work). It was some system tool which was like "preferred applications" but it dealt with hardware stuff... like Video4Linux and default recording driver and such
[05:55] <cypha> jburkholder, what's the preferred method?
[05:56] <nit-wit> pksadiq, on the terminal You have to set in ccsm > Gnome Compatability > Commands....works now.
[05:56] <jburkholder> cypha: .bash_aliases
[05:56] <cypha> ok, so just create that file and put "alias v='vim'"?
[05:56] <jburkholder> should work
[05:57] <cypha> cool
[05:57] <jburkholder> you'll need to open a new terminal or source it first
[05:57] <pksadiq> nit-wit: well, now it works, but I couldn't move any windows
[05:58] <nit-wit> pksadiq, do you have the move window plugin on?
[05:58] <Waynegrow> Anyone runnings Guildwars in Wine?
[05:59] <nit-wit> pksadiq, I haven't messed with the negative screen not sure what that is.
[05:59] <bixgomez> Hi, I am having trouble connecting to my Ubuntu machine on my remote network using Mac Screen Sharing.  No trouble using my internal network, but when I try my external IP, I get a "connection failed" message.  Any ideas?
[06:00] <dov> does anyone know how to be able to participate on the mysql channel?
[06:00] <dov> i get a msg "Can't send to channel"
[06:00] <Loshki> dov: you need to register first...
[06:01] <Loshki> !register | dov
[06:01] <dov> with them?
[06:01] <pksadiq> nit-wit: well, I got it thanks, but its harder for a newbei to do these all , these has to be configured by default
[06:01] <dov> i thought i already did that
[06:01] <dov> ok
[06:01] <dov> i'll make sure i'm logged in
[06:01] <dov> thanks
[06:01] <FloodBot1> dov: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:02] <dov> i wasn't logged in.  thanks
[06:03] <nit-wit> pksadiq, there is a default setup, your customizing it.;)
[06:03] <Loshki> dov: Cool. registering on freenode is only valid for the channels freenode carries I think
[06:04] <aGrizzly> Listening to Skrillex is not near as enjoyable with the  subwoofer not working. Is there an alternative to Creative's sound management applications?
[06:04] <dov> i think #mysql is on freenode b/c it came up instantly
[06:04] <dov> we'll find out as soon as i can find my pass :()
[06:04] <erichmlyh> hello
[06:05] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo apt-get update' obtains as the first line: "Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty InRelease." What does 'InRelease' mean?
[06:06] <Loshki> dov: #mysql is a valid channel. Some 500 folks on there currently....
[06:06] <dov> i know.  i just need to find my password now or figure out how to reset it
[06:06] <dov> thanks Loshki
[06:06] <najib> Is tun0 and tap0 correctly label (location) in this diagram? http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4631/networkingqemuvdebridge.png
[06:06] <dov> btw, how do you direct a comment at someone directly?
[06:08] <jburkholder> najib: looks correct
[06:08] <bullgard4> najib: I think they are no valid interface names by default. You can define such interfaces, though.
[06:08] <Loshki> dov: you can PM (Private Message) people. It's considered polite to ask permission before PM'ing someone
[06:09] <dov> i didn't mean pm.  I meant how when you talk to me, the line changes color and my client seems to know that it was for me
[06:10] <bullgard4> dov: Most IRC clients you can configure that way.
[06:11] <dov> are you just putting my nick and then a colon before the message?
[06:12] <najib> jburkholder: i need confirmation for my understanding, it is not correct if, tap0 and tun0 switch position.
[06:13] <Loshki> dov: yes, just the nick and a colon. Most clients let you type one or two characters of a nick and then hit <TAB> to autocomplete. Try it...
[06:14] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo apt-get update' obtains as the first line: "Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty InRelease." What does 'InRelease' mean?
[06:14] <dov> Loshki, the tab works fine
[06:14] <najib> jburkholder, bullgard4: am i right?
[06:14] <dov> but it inserted a comma, not a colon
[06:15] <dov> Loshki: did that first line get directed to you?
[06:15] <Loshki> dov: comma works too, apparently. My client highlighted it...
[06:15] <royale1223> How do I backup and restore all ppas?
[06:15] <dov> Loshki, nice.  thanks
[06:16] <chickadee> Question: If an 80gb hd is being formatted using fdisk, how many cylinders should it have in order to reset it to factory default settings?
[06:16]  * chickadee is an fdisk noob.
[06:16] <cypha> rationalOgre, I added "alias v='vim'" but it didn't work
[06:17] <dov> chickadee, it depends on the drive.  You should look up the specs if you can read the make/model sticker
[06:17] <chickadee> also i am having trouble finding a google'd answer for this problem.
[06:17] <bullgard4> najib: It is not correct to switch teh position of tap0 and tun0 unless you re-defined these two interfaces before.
[06:17] <nit-wit> chickadee, have use the whole disc
[06:17] <chickadee> thanks dov.
[06:17] <bullgard4> najib: It is not correct to switch the position of tap0 and tun0 unless you re-defined these two interfaces before.
[06:17] <dov> chickadee, there's more to it than just cylinders
[06:17] <chickadee> so what you mean there is a difference between a Maxtor or Seagate or Quantum or anything else, correct?
[06:18] <dov> chickadee, btw, the cylinder view is deprecated.  We are using sectors now
[06:18] <chickadee> dov, i am using ubuntu 5.1
[06:18] <dov> chickadee, It depends on how big the sectors are, number of heads, and number of cylinders
[06:18] <cypha> does anyone know, do I need to restart something once I edit .bash_aliases?
[06:18] <najib> bullgard4: thank, so my understanding of tun and tap device was correct as the diagram :)
[06:18] <dov> chickadee, your os won't matter for this
[06:19] <chickadee> fdisk keeps asking me for cylinders in order to create a partition
[06:19] <chickadee> it is annoying
[06:19] <dov> chickadee, the hdd geometry is on a 'lower level' than the os
[06:19] <Corey> chickadee: parted?
[06:19] <dov> chickadee, isn't it suggesting a default?
[06:19] <chickadee> dov, how do i go about resetting my hd to a factory default setting using fdisk?
[06:19]  * OnscreenIRC ubuntu Unity shell SUCKS!
[06:19] <dov> chickadee, i'm not sure what that means
[06:20] <dov> chickadee, i think you are trying to delete all of the partitions and basically start over
[06:20] <Tm_T> OnscreenIRC: please stay in support discussion
[06:20] <dov> chickadee, is that right?
[06:20] <dforthman> OnscreenIRC, I agree. Use Ubuntu Classic from the user login screen.
[06:20] <chickadee> dov, it was suggesting a default, but when I formatted it with my windows box to NTFS, it got rid of any notion regarding cylinders.
[06:20] <chickadee> dov, that is correct.
[06:21] <chickadee> i would like to "zero" my hd.
[06:21] <dov> chickadee, that doesn't make any sense.  are you using a live cd now?
[06:21] <chickadee> dov, i am using a live cd.
[06:21] <chickadee> the live cd is on a frankenstein-built desktop system.
[06:21] <chickadee> it has no internal hd.
[06:21] <dov> chickadee, what is the device name of your drive?  it will be something like /dev/hda or /dev/sda
[06:21] <chickadee> currently, it is sda1
[06:21] <cordoval> is there a true way to suspend in ubuntu natty?
[06:22] <dov> chickadee, so what drive are you trying to format?
[06:22] <chickadee> so /dev/sda1
[06:22] <Corey> chickadee: What's the real-world problem you're trying to solve?
[06:22] <cordoval> have the problem with hibernation been fixed?
[06:22] <chickadee> dov, i am trying to format /dev/sda1
[06:22] <nit-wit> cordoval, define true.
[06:22] <dov> chickadee, fdisk /dev/sda1
[06:22] <cordoval> I would like to freeze my windows openened and restore them exactly where I left it on starting up
[06:22] <dov> chickadee, then p to list all of the partitions
[06:22] <chickadee> Corey: I would like to zero my 80gb hd back to factory default settings so I can "start from scratch" with it.
[06:23] <cordoval> my laptop does not have battery and I would like to shut it down but restore my windows and opened programs
[06:23] <chickadee> Corey: I would like to use linux to do it
[06:23] <cordoval> any way to do that?
[06:23] <Corey> chickadee: Easy.
[06:23] <dov> chickadee, then d, [partition number], to delete the partition
[06:23] <Corey> fdisk /dev/sd[a/b]
[06:23] <Corey> chickadee: Ah, dov has got it.
[06:23] <rationalOgre> cypha: Remove the " from around "alias v='vim'"
[06:23] <rationalOgre> but leave the single quotes
[06:24] <dov> chickadee, just keep using p until there are no more partitions showing
[06:24] <chickadee> dov: ok, hang on. i will try that again and display to you the results (brb)
[06:24] <chickadee> ok, currently I have made /dev/sda1p1
[06:24] <chickadee> as a partition
[06:25] <chickadee> i have put "1" as a default cylinder on it.
[06:25] <chickadee> is this a bad idea?
[06:25] <dov> chickadee, yes
[06:25] <cordoval> there must be a way to hibernate in ubuntu or to save all info into disk and then restart from that session right?
[06:25] <cordoval> kind of like vbox does
[06:25] <cordoval> it freezes the state of the machine
[06:25] <cordoval> then saves it to disk
[06:25] <cordoval> then restart
[06:25] <dov> chickadee, i don't understand why you need to supply any cylinder info
[06:25] <cordoval> at the exact same point
[06:26] <chickadee> what is the difference between having "1" cylinder vs. having "105856" cylinders on an 80gb hd?
[06:26] <chickadee> dov, w/o the cylinder info, Ubuntu 5.1 won't allow me to create a partition on the drive.
[06:26] <dov> chickadee, don't create any partitions yet
[06:27] <dov> chickadee, first delete the old ones
[06:27] <chickadee> ok
[06:27] <chickadee> brb
[06:27] <dov> chickadee, then exit fdisk with w
[06:27] <nit-wit> cordoval, 6 months old but may be the answer, without a hack. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-January/002734.html
[06:28] <nit-wit> cordoval, this hack. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/gnome-session-save.1.html
[06:28] <chickadee> great, when I go to delete the partition, I get the return, "Selected partition 1 <carriage return> You must set cylinders. <carriage return> You can do this from the extra functions menu."
[06:29] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo apt-get update' obtains as the first line: "Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty InRelease." What does 'InRelease' mean?
[06:29] <dov> chickadee, I just noticed this, too, why are you installing Ubuntu 5.1?
[06:29] <chickadee> so when i go to the "extra functions" menu, i have the option to "change the number of cylinders."
[06:30] <chickadee> dov, it is not installed. it is running live off a cd.
[06:30] <dov> chickadee, you already changed it to 1, right?
[06:30] <cordoval> nit-wit: i read first link
[06:30] <cordoval> it is not a solution just an explanation that it was dropped from natty
[06:30] <cordoval> hmm
[06:30] <dov> chickadee, can you set it back to what it was initially?
[06:30] <cordoval> now reading the second link
[06:30] <nit-wit> cordoval, the second has a targz download.
[06:30] <chickadee> dov, i have, but then i changed it to 104586 (previously mistyped as "10586").
[06:30] <cordoval> so when you said without hack that is really no solution
[06:30] <cordoval> so it is with hack
[06:31] <dov> chickadee, so it's now at 104586?
[06:31] <chickadee> dov, i no longer remember what it was originally. Yes, it is now at 104586.
[06:31] <dov> chickadee, do you have the drive make/model number?
[06:31] <dov> chickadee, i can try to look it up for you
[06:31] <cordoval> it does not say how to install it though, I got the targz now
[06:31] <cordoval> decompressing ...
[06:32] <nit-wit> cordoval,  don't really know to be honest I haven't needed that feature.
[06:32] <chickadee> dov, it is a ST380020ACE
[06:32] <nit-wit> *I
[06:32] <chickadee> U6
[06:32] <dov> chickadee, ok, one sec
[06:32] <cordoval> I already have that command though on natty
[06:32] <cordoval> gnome session save
[06:32] <chickadee> dov, k thanks!!
[06:33] <dov> Loshki, can i post links here?
[06:34] <Loshki> dov: to relevant material, sure!
[06:34] <cordoval> reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1760636
[06:34] <cordoval> 80% of the time sometimes is spend on opening windows
[06:34] <dov> chickadee, here's the user manual for your drive:  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seagate.com%2Fsupport%2Fdisc%2Fmanuals%2Fata%2Fu6cepmreva.pdf&rct=j&q=ST380020ACE%20spec&ei=egnvTYvYEefL0QGFgsHzDA&usg=AFQjCNEsbTSqJWNB0VuxJx9rl0z57PdjNA&cad=rja
[06:34] <dov> chickadee, it's a pdf
[06:35] <dov> chickadee, according to this, there are 16,383 default cylinders, 16 heads, and 63 sectors / track
[06:35] <chickadee> Thanks dov. Hopefully I will be able to make sense of it.
[06:36] <dov> chickadee, try setting the cylinder count to 16383, then save the changes with w
[06:36]  * chickadee takes a look
[06:36] <chickadee> dov, why 16383 ?
[06:36] <dov> chickadee, then reload fdisk with fdisk /dev/sda and try again
[06:36] <dov> chickadee, that's what the manual says is the default config
[06:37] <dov> chickadee, on page 10
[06:38] <chickadee> dov, where does it say this in the manual? I often have difficulty interpreting manuals and such things at such an extensive detail of technicality.
[06:38] <dov> chickadee, page 10
[06:38] <chickadee> ty. i will take a look.
[06:38] <bullgard4> '~$ ubuntu-bug synaptic' obtains: "Invalid problem report. Could not determine package or source package name. Close." What should I do?
[06:38]  * chickadee brb's
[06:39] <chickadee> wow
[06:39] <chickadee> i am of simple mind.
[06:39] <dov> chickadee, why?
[06:39] <cordoval> gnome session save tar was just a man page
[06:40] <chickadee> dov, i would not have understood where you have derived your conclusion of the value you gave if I was looking at the manual purely on ym own.
[06:40] <chickadee> *my
[06:40] <dov> chickadee, No one 'gets it' the first time  ;)
[06:40] <chickadee> dov, how does one interpret the language of what a table like the one on page 10 describes?
[06:41] <chickadee> (in laymen's terms)
[06:41] <chickadee> ?
[06:41] <dov> chickadee, unfortunately, you don't
[06:41] <dov> chickadee, these aren't layman's terms
[06:41] <cordoval> gnome3 has the session save feature
[06:41] <cordoval> can natty work with gnome3?
[06:41] <cordoval> I rather downgrade
[06:41] <dov> chickadee, this is where you have to start learning about hard drives if you want to go much further
[06:42] <dov> chickadee, but, for now, it's enough to find the data you needed
[06:42] <cordoval> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/305498
[06:42] <dov> chickadee, so that you can use it to fix your current problem
[06:42] <chickadee> dov, thank you for your eternal wisdom. It is well-appreciated. \m/ \m/
[06:42] <dov> chickadee, then, when you get extra time, go back to the manual and start googling every term that you don't understand
[06:43] <dov> chickadee, and keep following links until you 'get it'
[06:43] <chickadee> dov, that will take too much time that I don't feel I will have the energy for.
[06:43] <dov> chickadee, i didn't mean in 1 day
[06:43]  * chickadee is a multimedia web developer and simple web designer.
[06:43] <dov> chickadee, that's why it's not easily explainable in layman's terms
[06:44] <dov> chickadee, i'm just saying that if you are really interested in it, you have a jumping off point now
[06:44] <dov> chickadee, you don't ever really have to dig into this stuff to be able to use your computer
[06:44]  * chickadee deals generally with pretty pictures and musical instruments. not intricate hardware architecture.
[06:45] <chickadee> :S
[06:45] <dov> chickadee, i completely understand
[06:45] <royale1223> How do I backup and restore all ppas?
[06:45] <dov> chickadee, did the cylinder reset work?
[06:45] <celthunder> royale1223, what're you backing up to/with
[06:45] <chickadee> dov, true that, but sometimes i wish i had the knowledge of the universe already engrained in my wetware knowledgebase. :S
[06:46] <dov> chickadee, i would guess that most of us in this room share your sentiment
[06:46] <chickadee> dov, i will let you know if it worked. brb
[06:48] <chickadee> dov, thank you for reminding me that there are other linux users that find themselves in my similar predicament. :)
[06:48] <chickadee> dov, after i changed the cylinder # to 16383, it outputted the following:
[06:49] <dov> chickadee, everything is a matter of degree.  most windows users are in this condition too, they just don't know it
[06:49] <dov> chickadee, we all end up at the edge of our knowledge on a regular basis.  if not, then we aren't trying enough new things
[06:50] <chickadee> dov, "WARNINIG: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 25: Inappropriate ioctl for device. <carriage return> The kernel still uses the old table. <carriage return> The new table will be used at the next reboot. <carriage return> Synching disks."
[06:50] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo apt-get update' obtains as the first line: "Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty InRelease." What does 'InRelease' mean?
[06:50] <chickadee> dov, what does that mean?
[06:50] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:50] <silv3r_m00n> on ubuntu 11.04 where are the deb files downloaded by synaptic stored ?
[06:50] <chickadee> dov, btw 10x for the understanding. :) \m/
[06:50] <dov> chickadee, i think it means that you should reboot.
[06:50] <dov> chickadee, np
[06:51] <dov> chickadee, i still don't understand how you corrupted this drive in the first place
[06:51] <chickadee> dov, if i reboot, since i am running purely via a live cd, does this mean that the data i have just inputted will get lost, because it is not being recorded on a physical hd inside the machine?
[06:51] <dov> chickadee, yes
[06:51] <chickadee> damn.
[06:52] <dov> chickadee, what data did you record?
[06:52] <dov> chickadee, if you mean the hdd data, then no
[06:52] <chickadee> dov, this is my situation:
[06:52] <chickadee> i have a "bare bones" system with no hdd inside it.
[06:53] <chickadee> the sda1 i am dealing with is plugged in as an external via usb.
[06:53] <silv3r_m00n> where does synaptic store the downloaded deb files ?
[06:53] <dov> chickadee, sda1 is a partition
[06:53] <dov> chickadee, not a drive
[06:53] <chickadee> i am running ubuntu 5.1 as a live cd in hopes of being able to deal with these techincal issues w/o having to install an OS on this machine.
[06:54] <dov> chickadee, why can't you connect the drive to the machine?
[06:54] <chickadee> dov, i don't want to.
[06:55] <chickadee> dov, i don't want to have to install an os on the drive, as its goal is to be used for storage only.
[06:55] <dov> chickadee, you don't have to install an os
[06:55] <dov> chickadee, we are using the livecd os
[06:55] <chickadee> dov, i don't?
[06:55] <JohnTeddy> I have dual screens... how can I get this bar to not always be on top/on?
[06:55] <JohnTeddy> Is there a UI hack to fix the latest ubuntu for someone with dual screens?
[06:55] <chickadee> dov, if i reboot, won't i lose the fdisk data i just inputted onto it?
[06:55] <dov> chickadee, what is the os that you are going to use this drive with?
[06:55] <dov> no
[06:56] <dov> chickadee, if the fdisk write worked, then it is stored on the drive
[06:56] <chickadee> dov, unfortunately XP (it's the only thing that will run my Adobe software. :p)
[06:56] <dov> chickadee, i'm starting to think that the problem is going through the usb controller instead of the sata controller
[06:57] <dov> chickadee, i think it would be best to connect the drive internally for now, until we get it formatted
[06:57] <dov> chickadee, then you can put it back on usb
[06:57] <dov> chickadee, and it will work fine
[06:57] <chickadee> dov, really? then would it not be the same thing as using the drive externally via usb?
[06:57] <dov> chickadee, i don't think so
[06:58] <dov> chickadee, i'm not positive, b/c i don't have a lot of experience in using fdisk on usb drives
[06:58] <NoWayJose> Question.  I have windows xp on my computer and it will not let me boot into at all due to blue screen errors, in normal mode and in safe mode.  Is it possible to use a live version of Ubuntu to gain access to the hard drive to back up the files I need from the hard drive which is in the windows operating system?>
[06:58] <dov> chickadee, but, from what you're experiencing so far, i think that you should try to eliminate as many potential problems as possible
[06:59] <dov> chickadee, the version of fdisk that you are using is from 2007 or earlier.  i have no idea how the usb support works on it
[06:59] <chickadee> dov, so what you are saying is that the pathways that fdisk will use with the direct IDE connection to the mb will be of purer substance than connecting externally via usb, correct?
[06:59] <chickadee> i see.
[07:00] <Themrjones> Hi
[07:00] <isteve__> hey everyone .. i was trying to configure kismet in my laptop .. i  had done it befor but since i had to reinstall ubuntu all those settinggs are gone and now i dont remember how i did.. i have changed the suid user to my name.. i am just forgetting how to configer sources
[07:00] <dov> chickadee, the more i think about it, the more i'm convinced that's true
[07:00] <dov> chickadee, especially b/c this is an ide drive, right?
[07:00] <isteve__> please help
[07:00] <chickadee> dov, yes it is an ide drive.
[07:00] <dov> chickadee, that means that fdisk should see it as hd(x) not sd(x)
[07:00] <d9500> NoWayJose, yes, google for "live cd ubuntu howtogeek backup" or something like that. the search results should have an article on how to do it
[07:00] <NoWayJose> just wondered if it was possible is all.
[07:00] <NoWayJose> d9500, Hey, ok thank you! :)
[07:01] <d9500> no prob
[07:01] <dov> chickadee, if you can, i think you should connect it internally, reboot the live cd, and go from there
[07:01] <chickadee> hmm. fascinating. tysm for your wisdom. will proceed to apply it.
[07:01] <chickadee> brb
[07:01] <dov> chickadee, btw, do you have the ability to download a newer live cd?
[07:02] <chickadee> dov, atm i do not have the capability to do so (but i will after this hd is taken care of). ;)
[07:02] <dov> chickadee, that would be the best solution for you of all b/c there's a gui tool that you can use
[07:02] <chickadee> dov, gui tool? neat! what is it?
[07:03]  * chickadee brb's and proceeds to apply dov's ancient wisdom.
[07:03] <dov> chickadee, i know that in 10.04, 10.10 for sure, you can go to system->administration->Disk Utility
[07:03] <bazhang> !away > chickadee-afk
[07:04]  * chickadee-afk umounts her drive
[07:04] <chickadee-afk> interesting.
[07:05] <chickadee-afk> it says "umount: /dev/sda1 is not mounted."
[07:05] <chickadee-afk> fun! ;)
[07:05]  * chickadee-afk proceeds to umount /media/(drive name) instead & it workds
[07:05] <dov> chickadee-afk, i think you should just power off the box, connect internally, make sure bios sees the drive, and then reboot the live cd
[07:05] <chickadee-afk> *works
[07:06] <dov> chickadee-afk, that's b/c it's usb
[07:06] <chickadee-afk> dov, in the process of doing so. brb. :)
[07:06] <dov> chickadee-afk, so it mounts under /media.  it will do that after we are finished, too
[07:06] <dov> chickadee-afk, btw, does your current live cd have a gui?
[07:06] <dov> chickadee-afk, i never used 5.1
[07:07] <dov> chickadee-afk, if it does, then there might be a gui util in there, too
[07:07] <dov> chickadee-afk, either way, you should connect internally for this
[07:09] <bullgard4> '~$ ubuntu-bug synaptic' obtains: "Invalid problem report. Could not determine package or source package name. Close." What should I do?
[07:11] <cypha> how can I get ubuntu to redraw the text in the terminal of my putty window when I resize it?
[07:11] <chickadee-afk> Silly question, if a hd is powered externally (i.e. *not* via the Power Supply), will it wreck the hd if only the IDE cable is plugged into the motherboard?
[07:11] <dov> no
[07:11] <chickadee-afk> dov, thanks! :) this will save me time.
[07:11]  * chickadee-afk brb's
[07:11] <dov> chickadee-afk: it doesn't matter what power supply  you use
[07:12] <pratz> hey guys i am looking for a utility which should notify me after every four hours
[07:12] <pratz> something like clockin and clockout
[07:13] <stew> cypha: it depends on what program is running in the terminal at the time.  you can try ctrl-l
[07:13] <dov> pratz: try a google search for ubuntu alarm clock
[07:14] <kostodo> how do i add a user through terminal ?
[07:14] <dov> kostodo: useradd <username>
[07:14] <kostodo> and that creates a home dir automatically?
[07:14] <dov> kostodo: you have to set their password separately
[07:14] <kostodo> and how would I add that user to a group?
[07:14] <bazhang> !info alarm-clock | pratz
[07:14] <dov> kostodo: usermod -a -G <group>
[07:15] <dov> kostodo: to check your work, use:
[07:15] <dov> kostodo: id <username>
[07:15] <Flannel> kostodo, dov: `adduser user group` is easier (and you forgot your username in the usermod command anyway)
[07:15] <pratz> ubottu: bazhang: but guys when i log in to my machine it should start and after 4 hrs it should notify me , is something like this ??
[07:15] <dov> kostodo: you should actually google those commands if you can b/c there are quite a few options that you might want to use
[07:16] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto kostodo
[07:16] <kostodo> ok thanks guys
[07:16] <dov> Flannel: I usually haven't decided what groups they are in until after I create them :()
[07:16] <cypha> stew, that defeats the purpose, then I lose ALL the text
[07:16] <stew> cypha: what program is running?
[07:17] <Flannel> dov: "adduser user group" adds user to group, it doesn't create a user (with that syntax, anyway, adduser can be used to create a user)
[07:17] <dov> Flannel: and thank you.  you are correct about my omission
[07:17] <bazhang> pratz, perhaps add it to your startup applications
[07:17] <cypha> stew, none
[07:17] <dov> Flannel: thanks, that's good to know
[07:17] <bobaw3> helo
[07:17] <cypha> i'm at the prompt
[07:17] <bobaw3> Hello everyone. I have my system setup to mount /var on an  external hard drive. I added it in /etc/fstab, copied over the  data from the old /var then remounted and pasted that data into  the external hard drive. then I made a symlink to var and  /dev/sda1. However, now when I reboot it cannot mount  /dev/sda1, it dosen't show up in my sustem. I also get [sda]
[07:17] <bobaw3>  test WP faled, assume write enabled. andh [sda] asking for  cache data failed.
[07:17] <Flannel> dov: It's also safer.  Far too many people use -G without -a and cause headaches
[07:18] <stew> cypha: then there is nothing to redraw
[07:18] <dov> Flannel: i've been down that road...  Re-adding all of the groups by hand. :)
[07:19] <cypha> stew, putty still tells ubuntu how many rows and columns
[07:19] <cypha> but ubuntu doesn't send a redraw back
[07:19] <stew> cypha: if there is no program running, what is there to redraw?
[07:19] <Flannel> dov: that's why I stay away from usermod if I can help it :)
[07:19] <chickadee-afk> great. now my skeleton system refuses to power up. :S
[07:19] <royale1223> How do I delete 1st 10 charecters from each line of a file (using sed)?
[07:19] <dov> Flannel: Thanks for the tip.
[07:20] <chickadee-afk> this is wunderbar!
[07:20] <dov> chickadee-afk: if you disconnect the drive, it powers up>
[07:20] <dov> ?
[07:20] <stew> cypha: i suspect you want your shell is the thing running?  and you want stuff like your previous prompt and the output of the previous program to redraw?  is this the case?
[07:20] <cypha> stew, yes
[07:20] <chickadee-afk> dov, won't reconnecting the power to the drive externally short circuit something on the drive?
[07:21] <stew> cypha: ubuntu doesn't remember.  you need putty to redraw itself.  ubuntu can't really help there
[07:21] <chickadee-afk> esp. if i have the system powered up?
[07:21] <dov> chickadee-afk: you shouldn't be connecting anything with the power on
[07:21] <dov> chickadee-afk: unplug all external power sources before connecting or disconnecting the signal cables
[07:21] <pratz> how can i change the location on my machine ??
[07:21] <chickadee-afk> dov. that is correct. i connected everything then plugged the main power to the system back in.
[07:22] <pratz> it is showing me an african country location, i am located in india
[07:22] <dov> chickadee-afk: and the system won't even turn on?
[07:22] <chickadee-afk> idk what is up.
[07:22] <chickadee-afk> brb
[07:22] <dov> chickadee-afk: if you now unplug the hdd, will it power on?
[07:22] <stew> cypha: (unless perhaps you are running bash inside something like 'screen')
[07:22] <DarsVaeda1> hi, if I print stuff in let say libreOffice and the document reader, is it the same system behind? the cups-printer-system or may there be software-specific printer systems?
[07:23] <royale1223> How do I delete 1st 10 charecters from each line of a file (using sed)?
[07:23] <nit-wit> pratz, right click the clock time and date settings.
[07:23] <royale1223> llutz: How do I delete 1st 10 charecters from each line of a file (using sed)?
[07:23] <chickadee-afk> nope, something short-circuited. :(
[07:23] <dov> royale1223: google is your friend:  http://codept.blogspot.com/2007/12/sed-remove-first-4-letters-in-each-line.html
[07:24] <stew> royale1223: sed 's/..........//'
[07:24] <Flannel> royale1223: Try ##sed
[07:24] <dov> chickadee-afk: the box won't power on even after removing the drive now?
[07:24] <pksadiq> I have found a bug in the Keyboard layout of my language, should I file a bug in Ubuntu Translations   or simply ubuntu?
[07:24] <royale1223> thanks dov, stew
[07:24] <chickadee-afk> all i get now when i hit the power button is a short flash of the led light, a small pop of power zipping through the connectors, then nothing.
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[07:24] <stew> royale1223: this will fail if there are lines with fewer than 10 characters
[07:24] <dov> chickadee-afk: is the drive still connected?
[07:25] <stew> dov: what do you mean google is his friend?
[07:25] <Flannel> chickadee-afk: sounds like a power supply is dead
[07:25] <royale1223> stew: not a problem.
[07:25] <chickadee-afk> dov, that is correct, the box will no longer power on with the drive connected to the internal IDE cable and power supply power.
[07:25] <stew> i guess he could use google to find an incorrect answer to his question?
[07:25] <dov> stew: i wasn't trying to be mean.  i meant that it's usually faster to search than to ask
[07:25]  * iam3fun all Good morning :) I give you a cup of hot coffee with milk
[07:25] <dov> stew: yes, you are correct.
[07:25] <chickadee-afk> Flannel: I hope to the Gods it isn't. I am depending very much on that power supply!
[07:25] <stew> great friend!
[07:26] <dov> stew: that is always possible
[07:26] <JohnTeddy> How do I get rid of the bar on the new ubuntu? I have dual screens and it isn't going away.
[07:26]  * chickadee-afk tries a brand new ide cable.
[07:26] <chickadee-afk> brb's
[07:26] <dov> chickadee-afk: no.  i mean, if you disconnect the signal cable entirely
[07:27] <dov> chickadee-afk:  and reboot w/o the drive connected
[07:29] <chickadee-afk> nada. x_x '
[07:29] <dov> stew: as i said before, i wasn't trying to be mean.  i have had great success with solving the vast majority of the issues that I have encountered by searching first.  I was only trying to convey that message quickly
[07:29] <dov> chickadee-afk: did you disconnect the drive completely?
[07:29] <eekTheCat> why do gtk apps always spew warnings and error messages?
[07:29]  * chickadee-afk disconnects the brand new ide cable and the power supply molex connector from the 80gb
[07:30]  * chickadee-afk tries powering the machine with the hdd removed entirely from the system
[07:30] <dov> Flannel: did you use ubuntu 5.1?
[07:30] <chickadee-afk> still nothing. x_x '
[07:30] <Flannel> dov: At one point, sure.
[07:31] <dov> Flannel: was there a gui disk utility?
[07:31] <chickadee-afk> still the same result as before.
[07:31] <dov> chickadee-afk: flashing red light, power zip, and then nothing?
[07:31] <chickadee-afk> the led flashes briefly, there is a simultaneous "pop" of attempted power going through the machine, then nothing happens.
[07:32] <Flannel> dov: Yeah, gparted.
[07:32] <chickadee-afk> Flannel, really? Are those symptoms of a dead PSU ?
[07:33] <dov> chickadee-afk: i think that it depends on the psu
[07:33] <Flannel> chickadee-afk: Yeah.  I had mine die on me last Saturday, exact same behavior.
[07:33] <dov> chickadee-afk: if it has a circuit breaker rather than a fuse, then i think he's right
[07:33] <Flannel> chickadee-afk: I swapped PSU, and everything worked fine
[07:34] <chickadee-afk> it's an FSP300-60ATV
[07:34] <chickadee-afk> it's an oldschool psu
[07:35] <chickadee-afk> nothing spectacular, but merely something super-annoying because now i am held back YET AGAIN from properly taking over the world!! >_< '
[07:35] <dov> chickadee-afk: when we (my company) have had hdd problems like that in the past, and i called the company's tech support (dell, hp, seagate, maxtor, etc) they always wanted to replace the drive unter warranty
[07:35] <dov> chickadee-afk: i assume that this drive is old enough not to be under warranty
[07:36] <dov> chickadee-afk: yes, that is annoying
[07:36] <chickadee-afk> dov, i am a humble individual struggling to get hardware started so I can make money doing whatever it is I do best.
[07:36] <dov> chickadee-afk: still, if you have a good world domination plan, then this will only be a small hiccup
[07:36] <dov> chickadee-afk: i completely understand
[07:38] <dov> chickadee-afk: you aren't in las vegas, are you?
[07:38] <chickadee-afk> dov, i have been going through a good deal of 'hiccups' the past many years of my life. at some times i fear there will only be one more that will leave me weak and completely powerless vs. the world.
[07:38] <chickadee-afk> dov, fortunately not. ;)
[07:38]  * chickadee-afk is proudly Canadian. ;)
[07:38] <dov> chickadee-afk: you are not alone.  we all go through that until we find our footing
[07:39] <bazhang> dov, chickadee-afk lets take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:39]  * chickadee-afk doesn't want to be finding her footing when she's 80yrs old.
[07:39] <dov> chickadee-afk: ok.  sorry baz
[07:39] <chickadee-afk> bazhang: sorry, i am new to the channel. i did not know the other one existed (let alone was for that purpose). ty for letting me know. :)
[07:40] <dov> chickadee-afk: i'm sorry that we weren't able to fix your issue.
[07:40] <Guest76669> how can i change my nick name
[07:40] <chickadee-afk> dov, i'm sure that your idea would have worked.
[07:40] <bazhang>  /nick newnickname Guest76669
[07:41] <dov> chickadee-afk: if the drive really isn't good, then it's better to find out now anyway before you lose your data
[07:41] <novoid> Where does Ubuntu store its xmodmaps? I modified /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us_intl and modified keys but they do not work after reboot. Where do I have to modify the xmodmaps?
[07:42] <chickadee-afk> this only now means that it will be some time again before we can restart where we left off.
[07:42] <chickadee-afk> dov, there was nothing on the drive. i formatted it using Partition Magic to NTFS previously to bringing it back on the linux box.
[07:43] <dov> chickadee-afk: ok, I'm new to the channel too, but I'm going to try to spend more time here, if possible.  good luck
[07:43] <pksadiq> Where do I need to file a mistake in Keyboard layout of my language?simply ubuntu bug, is it related to Ubuntu Translation team?
[07:43] <chickadee-afk> nothing worth saving, anyways.
[07:43] <dov> chickadee-afk: i know.  i meant that we would have gotten it configured, you would be using it, and THEN it would die on you
[07:43] <chickadee-afk> tysm for all your help dov. You've taught me alot already. :)
[07:43] <chickadee-afk> props!!
[07:44] <chickadee-afk> lol, dov. true that! ;)
[07:44] <novitololo> hi
[07:44] <chickadee-afk> dov, at least there would have been SOME consistency!
[07:44] <chickadee-afk> Thanks all btw, for putting up with my crap. ^_^ \m/ Cheers!
[07:45] <novitololo> I've added a new (ethernet) connection, but I don't know how to change to it.  I used to have an icon in the panel that would let me move between my connections, but is not there anymore.  How can I set that new connection as the one I want to use?
[07:46] <chickadee-afk> Good night, all!
[07:47] <myrmidette> here's a scenario: me and my friend are on a train, I have a netbook with ubuntu 10.04 and he has a netbook with windows 7. We have a (crossover) ethernet cable and wifi, and we want to transfer a big file (like 30 gb)
[07:48] <myrmidette> what are my options?
[07:48] <pratz> hey guys can i use the sources.list file of 10.04 for 9.04 ??
[07:48] <myrmidette> pointing me to a tutorial would be swell
[07:48] <pratz> because 9.04 sources.list ip address is restricted by our company
[07:48] <myrmidette> I haven't been able to find anyy
[07:51] <susundberg> myrmidette: transfer from win7 -> ubuntu or ubuntu->win7 ?
[07:51] <myrmidette> can anyone read what I am typing?
[07:51] <susundberg> Yes we can :)
[07:52] <myrmidette> ok I though I disconnected
[07:52] <susundberg> :)
[07:52] <myrmidette> susundberg, whatever you know
[07:52] <myrmidette> it might go both ways
[07:52] <myrmidette> this is hypothetical
[07:53] <susundberg> Then i would probably go with samba
[07:53] <myrmidette> how would I actually connect?
[07:53] <novitololo> How can I set a new connectio I've created to be used?
[07:53] <susundberg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[07:53] <myrmidette> novitololo, click network icon>edit connections
[07:53] <myrmidette> I know how to set up a samba server susundberg
[07:53] <novitololo> yes
[07:54] <novitololo> network icon? in the panel? I don't have it
[07:54] <silver_moon> hi there
[07:54] <sunlifeng> hi
[07:54] <silver_moon> i had created a iso from aptoncd , but now when i am trying to restore it , the aptoncd > restore > load button doesnt work , is there a way to restore from command line?
[07:54] <novitololo> when trying to add that network icon in the panel, I just see "network monitoring.."
[07:54] <myrmidette> susundberg, I'm not sure how would I actually make a network with just two computers
[07:55] <susundberg> myrmidette: well for that there is several ways -- easiest is just to set both machines with fixed ip on same network
[07:55] <myrmidette> we're on a train
[07:55] <susundberg> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Connect-two-computers-using-a-crossover-cable
[07:55] <myrmidette> with no power and only wifi and a crossover ethernet
[07:55] <sandGorgon> myrmidette, I would rather explore zeroconf based fileshare tools (e.g. Gshare). If you have zeroconf on windows/osx, you will be able to share without anything else
[07:55] <susundberg> does that matter in any way?
[07:56] <jozefk> why this message is coming over and over again? W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com natty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[07:56] <sandGorgon> susundberg, your options wont work because the concept of a network only works if there is switch/router somewhere
[07:56] <susundberg> What!
[07:57] <susundberg> Network can be single computer -- and definitely two computers
[07:57] <susundberg> those ethernet cards do not know if they are connected via router/hub/crossover cable
[07:57] <dibblego> where did /boot/grub/menu.lst go?
[07:58] <susundberg> but what is that microsoft document talking about -- no ip addresses are set -- it must have some weird 'automatic' ip address selection ..
[07:58] <evilspiral> Can I Get Some Help With Some File Transfer Issues Im Having By Chance?
[07:58] <sandGorgon> susundberg, hmm.. I've never done it, so I dont know if it is possible. maybe you're right.. but I have always wondered how would one computer recognize the other computer's IP address without a switch/router.
[07:59] <evilspiral> Ill Take That As A No?
[08:00] <KerrMD> Hello all
[08:01] <novoid> Where does Ubuntu store its xmodmaps? I modified /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us_intl and modified keys but they do not work after reboot. Where do I have to modify the xmodmaps?
[08:01] <susundberg> sandGorgon: well the network cards knows it own IP and when it sees packet coming to that address it says 'hey thats mine' and grabs the package for futher inspection
[08:01] <alexey> Hi all! I want to save /home, which has been installed on another partition (sda1 is / and sda 2 is /home). So I'm planing to install new ubuntu, which must use old /home partition (sda2). What I must to do before install? I think that it will be an creating users (with old names and uids) and groups?
[08:01] <susundberg> sandGorgon: and the hub (switch and router are bit more complicated) just sends all packages it receives to all of the 'clients'
[08:02] <susundberg> and when connection two machines (with direct cable) they must know the others machine IP to get connected
[08:02] <susundberg> sandGorgon: see for example: http://www.yale.edu/pclt/COMM/TCPIP.HTM
[08:02] <KerrMD> I'm using Kubuntu 11.04 with the latest ATI proprietary drivers. Cannot startx. I get "no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:01) found. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 lasted proprietary drivers are not always good.
[08:03] <KerrMD> I am aware
[08:03] <novitololo> Hi. I've created a new (wired) connection, but I can't find how to set it as the one I want to use. How can I do that? In the "monitor network" icon, I can't see that connection...
[08:03] <dibblego> how does one add kernel parameters with 11.04 given grub2?
[08:03] <KerrMD> What was the config commant for the ati driver sets?
[08:04] <KerrMD> command*
[08:04] <alexey> Hi all! I want to save /home, which has been installed on another partition (sda1 is / and sda 2 is /home). So I'm planing to install new ubuntu, which must use old /home partition (sda2). What I must to do before install? I think that it will be an creating users (with old names and uids) and groups?
[08:05] <Squarism> can you grep for 2 words at once wo using regexp-... wordA OR wordB so to speak
[08:06] <Itqan> hey wher is the "ubuntu classic" in login screen? i can only see my name and password box, a other btn, a universal acess btn and a shut down dropdown
[08:06] <Itqan> ?
[08:07] <tensorpudding> Itqan: it's in a drop-down on the bottom
[08:07] <Itqan> where?
[08:07] <Itqan> any screen shots?
[08:07] <Itqan> pld
[08:07] <kainu7> hey guys questuon. i just reformated installed winfows onto a 100 gig partiton of a500gig hd. now im installing ubuntu  so im
[08:08] <Itqan> k wait googling
[08:08] <jozefk> is there any chance for that message to be gone after day or two for example?
[08:09] <evilspiral> Any One Familiar With File Transfer Issues?
[08:10] <KerrMD> Ok, how's about this. Does anone know of a good qt based text web browser?
[08:10] <evilspiral> No One?
[08:10] <TheVinci> Can anyone help us with file sharing?
[08:10] <TheVinci> ubuntu to ubuntu
[08:10] <evilspiral> ?
[08:10] <TheVinci> can't get samba to work, nor the file sharing with IRC
[08:11] <tensorpudding> KerrMD: what do you mean by "text web browser"
[08:11] <TheVinci> seriously? No one?
[08:12] <Brad__> hi
[08:12] <Itqan> oh ok found it ty
[08:13] <evilspiral> Does Anyone Know Anything About Something In Here?
[08:13] <Itqan> hi Brad__
[08:13] <celthunder> KerrMD, links
[08:13] <Brad__> i'm having problems mounting my DVD drive under Kubuntu
[08:13] <Tm_T> !anyone | evilspiral
[08:13] <celthunder> evilspiral, likely
[08:13] <TheVinci> He HAS been asking!
[08:13] <myrmidette> !gq
[08:13] <TheVinci> and so have I
[08:14] <celthunder> thevinci what was the question sorry just got here
[08:14] <Fudge> hi how do u 0 data out with /dev/null so dd makes a msmaller image?
[08:14] <TheVinci> We ahve asked numerous times, can any one help us with file sharing?
[08:14] <TheVinci> *have
[08:14] <KerrMD> tensorpudding: I mean something like Knode.. I found my own answer.. A terminal web browser. As in non-graphic
[08:14] <Tm_T> TheVinci: that's not the real question, we cannot know if we can help until we know what is the problem
[08:14] <celthunder> TheVinci, file sharing what?
[08:15] <celthunder> TheVinci, and what's not working about how you'r doing it how're you doing it in the first place etc
[08:15] <celthunder> KerrMD, links/lynx
[08:15] <Tm_T> TheVinci: see http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html (:
[08:15] <TheVinci> we've tried samba file sharing
[08:15] <celthunder> Brad__, does it show up in /dev?
[08:15] <Belias> making a rubic's cube game , http://www.qemum.org/Rubik7.png , want to change the name of Rubic's cube, since it is a trade mark, can you suggest a name?
[08:15] <KerrMD> celthunder: I just realized what you meant by links the first time. I'm checking out knode first though since I just installed it. =D
[08:15] <Brad__> What is it supposed to look like in /dev?
[08:15] <TheVinci> and we can't get our folders to show up on the other's computer
[08:15] <kainu7> ok i just reformated installed windows 7 now im installing ubuntu. i have 400gig of free unpartitioned hd. should the linux partition be primary or logical? partition at beginning or end? what type of file system and mount point?
[08:16] <celthunder> Brad__, like ..a device?
[08:16] <Brad__> there's nothing in /dev that looks like a DVD device
[08:16] <celthunder> kainu7, you need at least a / and probably a /home
[08:16] <celthunder> Brad__, udisks --monitor and put in the drive
[08:17] <celthunder> Brad__, or dvd whatever...any output?
[08:17] <evilspiral> Ive Tried Using The DCC Commands To Try And Send A File But We Keep Getting Time Out Errors
[08:17] <Brad__> monitoring activity from the disks daemon......
[08:17] <celthunder> evilspiral, TheVinci scp ftp http server open up the ports for dcc to work
[08:17] <Brad__> nothing showing up
[08:17] <kainu7> celthunder i can only choose one of those not both.
[08:17] <celthunder> Brad__, ok do you have a /dev/sr0 or so
[08:18] <celthunder> kainu7, ? you need a / at least.../home should be seperate though
[08:18] <Brad__> there is no sr0
[08:18] <celthunder> kainu7, and probably a swap partition depending how much ram you have
[08:18] <TheVinci> celthunder, is that a command?
[08:18] <Brad__> i noticed that there is a cdrom in the root
[08:18] <Fudge> is it faster with 4gig ram to not use a swap partition
[08:18] <celthunder> TheVinci, no
[08:19] <kainu7> yes i was going to do 20 gig for linux rest for swap
[08:19] <celthunder> kainu7, did you just say you want 380GB of swap
[08:19] <dibblego> how do I set boot parameters, such as semopm=100 with 11.04?
[08:19] <Brad__> bu its an empty folder and i can't mount it because it's not a block device
[08:19] <evilspiral> cethunder: Sorry But Thats Really Vague
[08:19] <Fudge> loL
[08:19] <kainu7> celthunder yes
[08:20] <Brad__> ok so i canceled udisks because nothing showed up
[08:20] <celthunder> kainu7, please...do think a LITTLE bit...make / like 7.5/10GB and a swap partition like 256MB and then /home the rest
[08:20] <pehden> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++89+5898+95
[08:20] <pehden> srry
[08:20] <celthunder> Brad__, ok
[08:20] <TheVinci> ok, so what is this scp ftp http server?
[08:20] <celthunder> TheVinci, all your options for sharing files easily
[08:20] <celthunder> TheVinci, hell dropbox, unison, email....
[08:21] <TheVinci> I'm trying to transfer some big files
[08:21] <TheVinci> I have a drop box account
[08:21] <kainu7> celthunder ok guess im confused  im new to this ={
[08:21] <Brad__> does that indicate there is no working driver?
[08:21] <celthunder> kainu7, then use the sizes i just gave you or something similar...if you want hibernate take away from /home and make the swap partition the same size as your ram
[08:22] <celthunder> Brad__, does it show up in lshw
[08:22] <celthunder> (the dvd drive)
[08:22] <meero> hello, i have a problem with connection latency. For example. first attempt to connect to eg port 22 or 80 times out, or connects after 2 minutes, and second connection is done imidiately. What might be the problem?
[08:22] <cafenet> hey guys im lookinf for apps like HDD recovery
[08:22] <celthunder> meero, is your dns server terrible?
[08:22] <Brad__> i can't find lshw
[08:23] <susundberg> meero: check if connection to IP address is as slow -- if not then problem is with dns. If yes, then problem is with connection / router / firewall or similar
[08:23] <kainu7> celthunder brb
[08:23] <celthunder> susundberg based on the it works second time likely dns no?
[08:23] <celthunder> Brad__, just run it in terminal
[08:23] <susundberg> celthunder: oh, you might be correct there
[08:24] <meero> celthunder: the nameserver responds in average 20ms
[08:25] <celthunder> meero, as susundberg said did it work with an ip the first time
[08:25] <meero> susundberg: ping to IP responds in 60ms average
[08:26] <celthunder> Brad__, ?
[08:26] <pehden> is there a channel for ISPconfig3
[08:26] <Brad__> celthunder, ok i see nothing that looks like DVD drive when i run lshw
[08:26] <cypha> how do I override a readonly file? I'm using vim
[08:26] <celthunder> Brad__, does it show up in bios?
[08:26] <susundberg> meero: ping is not good way to test -- firewall/router etc might let ping pass but forward say ssh via other route
[08:26] <Brad__> under the boot menu, it is an entry, but it says "no bootable device"
[08:26] <cypha> :w! doesn't work
[08:26] <kainu7_> celthunder ok, my computer has 4gig of ram so i should make a partition of 4gigs?
[08:26] <meero> susundberg: so how should i test this?
[08:27] <celthunder> cypha, do you have permissions to write to the file
[08:27] <cypha> celthunder, I can sudo if needed
[08:27] <celthunder> kainu7_, ok so a / of 7-10GB and a swap of 4.1GB and a /home for the rest
[08:27] <celthunder> cypha, sudo chmod it to writable
[08:27] <susundberg> meero: try the first connection to ip-address with the same protocol that you have trobles with
[08:27] <Brad__> celthunder, the drive is connected via my ribbon cable that works when it's connected to a hard drive - the power is plugged in because it revves up on startup.. but i can't find the device or use it
[08:28] <cypha> celthunder, how do I change it back afterwards?
[08:28] <susundberg> (ping certainly is good to check if the connection is working at all .. )
[08:28] <cypha> or is it possible to just have it writable for the current session?
[08:28] <susundberg> (and to see if there is horrible package loss, but i guess this is not the case ..)
[08:29] <celthunder> cypha, chmod it back after
[08:29] <pehden> is there a channel for ISPconfig
[08:29] <evilspiral> So All Of Our File Sharing Attempts Are Failures... FTP, SSH, DCC.
[08:29] <Fudge> cafenet  foremost may help you
[08:30] <celthunder> evilspiral, do you have the ports open on your firewalls/routers? are you in a DMZ? give an error message maybe?
[08:30] <kainu7_> celthunder what typle of file system should i use? fat32, xfs, ext4 ect ect ect
[08:30] <celthunder> pehden, #ispconfig (guessing)
[08:30] <TheVinci> just thought you all would like to know... we figured out why it wasn't working...
[08:30] <celthunder> kainu7_, ext4
[08:30] <evilspiral> Never Mind... Little Miss Vinci Forgot About His Firewall...
[08:30] <TheVinci> I'm a dumb arse and had my firewall set up
[08:31] <kainu7_> celthunder for all of the partitions im making now?
[08:31] <pehden> cellthunder thats what i though but it says invite only
[08:31] <TheVinci> thanks for your attempted help though
[08:31] <celthunder> kainu7_, except the swap one yes
[08:31] <evilspiral> celthunder: Thanks For Your Help..
[08:31] <celthunder> evilspiral, TheVinci lol np
[08:31] <kainu7_> celthunder how about this primary and logical?
[08:31] <celthunder> kainu7_, make the swap one type swap
[08:31] <celthunder> kainu7_, primary
[08:32] <celthunder> kainu7_, assuming you only have 1 windows partition
[08:32]  * evilspiral Shoots Himself In The Face
[08:32] <Brad__> celthunder, ok i'm in BIOS right now.. in advanced BIOS features the cd rom is Not Installed
[08:32] <celthunder> Brad__, ok then not much ubuntu cna do about it if bios doesn't see it
[08:33] <cafenet> is it on repo?
[08:33] <kainu7_> celthunder i have windows 7 partition and then windows made a 100mb partition for backup and then 400gig of unused right now that im using for linux
[08:33] <meero> susundberg: that is not the problem , no packet loss there. I tried one other thing. connect to ssh for first time, cancel the connection and then right after reconnect for second time. in this manner it work fine. But for port 80 http it might be the problem :-)
[08:33] <Brad__> gotcha - thanks anyway
[08:34] <celthunder> kainu7_, ok you'll need to make one of them a logical partition then
[08:35] <kainu7_> celthunder what one? does it matter? can it be the swap 4.1gig
[08:35] <faLUCE> sudo tcpdump | grep "length 1400"    <--- how can I break the command as soon as "length 1400" is found ?
[08:35] <Matriks404> Mac OS X RULEZ !M!
[08:36] <pehden> faLUCE why not make a shell script to do it instead
[08:36] <susundberg> meero: sounds weird .. my guess would be that there is firewall/router X that is missconfigured
[08:37] <evilspiral> Okay So We Have Another Issue Of The File Share Dropping Speed Quick Till It Stalls And Aborts...
[08:37] <ParkerR> Anyone see how to download this source? http://cgit.sukimashita.com/sbmanager.git/?h=master Clicking the link on the bottom shows no files. I do have git installed
[08:37] <susundberg> meero: or either network has problems -- double IP or similar
[08:37] <celthunder> ParkerR, git pull
[08:37] <ParkerR> git pull then the url?
[08:37] <faLUCE> pehden: yes but I don't know how
[08:37] <pehden> !ban
[08:38] <quiescens> faLUCE: you can probably use: grep -m(count) "string"
[08:38] <susundberg> meero: of course it makes sense also to test if the problem is target specific or source specific -- does it connect to other targets ok, or is the case similar with all targets --> get the problem source
[08:38] <quiescens> faLUCE: or in your case: grep -m1 "length 1400"
[08:39] <faLUCE> quiescens: in this way the command doesn't stop
[08:39] <kainu7_> celthunder i made my swap 4.1gig primary and my 10gig / primary but now is says my remaining 380gig is unusable
[08:40] <faLUCE> quiescens: sorry, it seems that your tip is good, let's try again
[08:40] <faLUCE> quiescens: great, thanks
[08:40] <celthunder> kainu7_, you need to make the / one the entire space minus the swap and then logical it out to /home
[08:41] <celthunder> kainu7_, you get 4 primary and then you can make logical under them
[08:41] <ParkerR> Here is what it says http://pastebin.com/SGhHfjJd
[08:43] <evilspiral> Okay So We Have Another Issue Of The File Share Dropping Speed Quick Till It Stalls And Aborts...
[08:44] <stix> Hi guys. My skype should be minimised to the panel, but now it just completely disappears. I am online and ppl can chat me, but how do I find the skype-main-window again?
[08:45] <schizoschaf> hi. i am on natty with classic gnome. i don't get my ssh-key's passphrase remembered ind gnome-terminal. i googled a lot, but it does not help. anyone has an idea what i could try?
[08:45] <jjp> schizoschaf: launch ssh-agent ?
[08:47] <schizoschaf> jjp: does not help
[08:47] <schizoschaf> already running
[08:47] <jjp> schizoschaf: is ssh-agent running ? In terminal: 'ps -aux |grep ssh-agent'
[08:48] <jjp> schizoschaf: ok; what's the error with ssh-add
[08:48] <faLUCE> quiescens: now, is there a way to do something like tcpdump | grep -m1 "everithing that is different than length 1400" ?
[08:49] <schizoschaf> jpp: yay! running ssh-add did the trick! thank you
[08:49] <ratz_> hi friends
[08:49] <quiescens> faLUCE: grep uses -v to invert the matching
[08:49] <jjp> schizoschaf: you're welcome
[08:50] <ratz_> i have hp 110-3000 netbook on which i have installed ubuntu 10.04 lts. I cannot get sound working on it. please help me
[08:50] <faLUCE> quiescens: thanks again
[08:53] <ratz_> is there anyone who can help me?
[08:54] <mkquist> ratz_: whats your question?  Just entered so maybe you already asked, but...
[08:55] <ratz_> i have hp 110-3000 netbook on which i have installed ubuntu 10.04 lts. I cannot get sound working on it. please help me
[08:56] <Muisje> Hello, i need to resize my partition (shrink) it from 15 GB to 5 GB, and the only possibility i have is to use the ubuntu cd and boot from there. However in ubuntu i cannot find /dev/mapper/deb01-root, any ideas?
[08:56] <BigMac> i tried to install ubuntu 11.04 the other day, but near the end of the install, I was told that it was unable to install the bootloader, so i proceeded to install without the bootloader and was later prompted to reboot to complete the install, i was however booted into windows instead, i tried to install both in dual boot and single os only mode, redownloaded ubuntu and burned it onto a different cd, but the same thing happened aga
[08:56] <BigMac> in, what could be causing this?
[08:56] <mkquist> ratz_: have you tried here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[08:57] <ikonia> BigMac: you need to put the boot loader on , ar eyou using anything clever like raid didks
[08:57] <mkquist> ratz_: there is a lot of help with sound.  And it can sometimes be a bit of a thing
[08:57] <ratz_> mkquist, no not yet ... didnt know abt it
[08:57] <BigMac> ikonia: no, just a single hd
[08:57] <ikonia> BigMac: use these instructions to apply grub then
[08:57] <ratz_> mkquist, thnx will check it
[08:57] <ParkerR> Ok while compiling sbmanager i get this http://pastebin.com/fSzyP3pV
[08:57] <ikonia> !grub2 > BigMac
[08:57] <BigMac> ok, thanks
[08:57] <Nexialist> Hi , was wondering if anyone can help me, my disk usage analyzer is saying "total filesystem capacity is 100%" and total file system usage is only 7.6%, how can Clear up the fly system capacity?
[08:58] <Nexialist> file*
[08:58] <ikonia> Nexialist: please pastebin the output of the command "df -h" please
[08:59] <ParkerR> And ideas on mine?
[08:59] <ParkerR> *Any
[08:59] <Nexialist> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[08:59] <Nexialist> /dev/sda1              71G  5.4G   62G   8% /
[08:59] <Nexialist> none                  493M  312K  493M   1% /dev
[08:59] <Nexialist> none                  497M  924K  496M   1% /dev/shm
[08:59] <Nexialist> none                  497M  188K  497M   1% /var/run
[08:59] <FloodBot1> Nexialist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <Nexialist> none                  497M     0  497M   0% /var/lock
[08:59] <ParkerR> Oh god
[09:01] <Nexialist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/621582/
 Hello Today I want try next steps (about Nvidia driver on samsung laptop RC710)
[09:05] <ParkerR> Ahh got it
[09:05] <ParkerR> I needed to install intltool
[09:08] <Guest65375> Hello help me plug on Visual Effect on Ubuntu 10.10 (Nvidia driver on samsung laptop RC710 doean't work)
[09:08] <GauravButola> .
[09:10] <Guest708> I am student, I know C. Don't have any prior knowledge of application development, where should I learn development in ubuntu?
[09:10] <Guest65375> Help please configure the driver NVIDIA Samsung's laptop RC710 to activate the Visual effects.
[09:10] <Kingsy> I have an application that has crashed.. the force quit button doesnt seem to work.. how can I kill the process?
[09:11] <psycho_oreos> try going through terminal and issue kill on the process ID
[09:11] <Guest708> Kingsy: go to terminal type "xkill" without quotes and then enter. click on the unresponsive window.
[09:12] <Guest65375> Help please configure the driver NVIDIA Samsung's laptop RC710 to activate the Visual effects. Tree day I cann't to do it
[09:12] <Kingsy> Guest708: there is no window its a process running in the background
[09:12] <cheapie> My cat knocked my old Seagate ST-157A-1 hard drive out of my computer, and the power cable got pulled out and it was hanging by the PATA cable. I plugged the power cable back in and the power-on seek test passed, but I couldn't access the drive. It just seeked rapidly between both ends and reported status "DRDY ERR" and error "IDNF". After a reboot, it worked fine. Do you think I damaged anything?
[09:12] <Kingsy> psycho_oreos: how do you get a list of all running processes with ID's? then what is the command to kill?
[09:12] <elfranne> anyone have some experience to use WMI calls from a Linux box to a Win 7 machine ? I get connection refused, on the Win7 the WMI is active and i can make calls on local
[09:13] <Gaurav___> Kingsy: you know the name of the process? if yes, then type, pkill PROCESS_NAME for example "pkill banshee"
[09:13] <psycho_oreos> Kingsy, there's pkill, but otherwise you can get tools like ps/top/htop/atop to show the processes running
[09:13] <cafenet> can i talk about Ekiga here?
[09:13] <Kingsy> Gaurav___: hmm well its pidgin, so I don't know if the process name is called pidgin or not..
[09:13] <Guest65375> The third day I can not do setup NVIDIA driver on laptop RC710, please help me
[09:13] <Kingsy> it would be helpful to display the running processes so I can find out for definate
[09:14] <spidermonk> to find out the name try ps -e | grep partofthename
[09:14] <newbubuntu> Hello people, i have an old laptop here i want to install ubuntu on.. now the trick is the cd rom doesn't work and i dont have a udb stick.. what is the best way to install ubuntu on this laptop (i have another laptop with win 7 and they are networked up it that helps)
[09:14] <psycho_oreos> it should be called pidgin though but you can always double check via ps/top/htop/atop/etc
[09:14] <Gaurav___> Kingsy: it should be pidgin. type "pkill pidgi and then press tab, if pidgin comes up, then it is pidgin indeed.
[09:14] <Brad__> if i install ubuntu on an HD that already has a different version of Ubunto on it and select "install them side by side, choosing between them each at startup" does that erase all the files that i have on the partition that i'm resizing?
[09:14] <Kingsy> thanks everyone :) got it
[09:15] <acidflash> hello everyone, i have a question
[09:15] <Gaurav___> Kingsy: or go to system monitor and then process, locate the pidgin process and click on end process.
[09:15] <acidflash> i installed ubunt 11.04
[09:15] <cheapie> My cat knocked my old Seagate ST-157A-1 hard drive out of my computer, and the power cable got pulled out and it was hanging by the PATA cable. I plugged the power cable back in and the power-on seek test passed, but I couldn't access the drive. It just seeked rapidly between both ends and reported status "DRDY ERR" and error "IDNF". After a reboot, it worked fine. Do you think I damaged anything?
[09:15] <Gaurav___> Kingsy: ahh... nice.
[09:15] <acidflash> the password i am using for the user i created isnt working
[09:15] <acidflash> what can i do other then re-install to get access and/or create a new user
[09:15] <psycho_oreos> Brad__, it might not erase the data on the partition that is to be erased
 My pkill doesn't tab complete like that... does it need to be enables?
[09:16] <Gaurav___> spidermonk: No, it should work out of the box.
[09:16] <Brad__> psycho_oreos, but you're saying that it might?
[09:16] <Brad__> it just depends where the data is located on the disk, right?
[09:16] <psycho_oreos> acidflash, I suppose you can go through single mode by appending stuff at boot time
[09:16] <Gaurav___> spidermonk: sometimes it stops working, happend on my other system, I would give you link to fix if I can find.
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> Brad__, yes it might, its always good to have backups just in case
[09:17] <cheapie> acidflash: It's called "recovery mode"
[09:17] <spidermonk> Gaurav___: cheers. not of funky stuff in my .bashrc, probably something in there...
[09:17] <Brad__> thanks
[09:17] <allquixotic> Hi, I'm getting the error "Method "CreateItem" with signature "a{sv}(oayay)b" on interface "org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection" doesn't exist" in Ubuntu Software Center when trying to install Uplink: Hacker Elite (paid app) on Ubuntu 11.04. Any ideas?
[09:17] <Gaurav___> spidermonk: see if this works http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/how-to-autocomplete-commands-preceded.html
[09:17] <cheapie> How do I access "Startup Disk Creator" from LXDE?
[09:18] <psycho_oreos> Brad__, if anything it would be data lost, particularly if its been mounted on the previous boot where you knocked the power cable out of the hard disk
[09:18] <psycho_oreos> err woops I meant cheapie
[09:19] <cheapie> psycho_oreos: OK. The disk was blank anyway. Now how do I access the "Startup Disk Creator" from LXDE?
[09:19] <Brad__> psycho_oreos, i think you mean to talkd to cheapie
[09:20] <xxlk2> ciao a tutti
[09:20] <psycho_oreos> cheapie, don't know you might want to try asking that in #lubuntu
[09:20] <xxlk2> mi sa che questo non è ubuntu-it
[09:20] <psycho_oreos> Brad__, indeed, I corrected that a few seconds afterwards
[09:20] <Gaurav___> cheapie: is it installed in LXDE?
[09:20] <psycho_oreos> !it| xxlk2
[09:20] <Gaurav___> cheapie: did you install LXDE in Ubuntu or you installed lubuntu?
[09:21] <cheapie> Gaurav___: I have all major DEs installed. This was originally an Ubuntu installation.
[09:22] <cheapie> Gaurav___: In fact, this is practically u-edu-ku-lu-xu-fluxbuntu.
[09:23] <[SpitfirE]> Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me out. Im having trouble booting from LiveUSB.
[09:24] <Gaurav___> cheapie: got it, run this command in terminal "usb-creator-gtk"
[09:24] <cheapie> Gaurav___: OK. I'll try that.
[09:24] <Gaurav___> cheapie: should work if you have LXDE installed on Ubuntu.
[09:24] <AdvoWork> im doing: du -csh / --max-depth=1  but getting: du: warning: summarizing conflicts with --max-depth=1  but the man page shows that option, any ideas please?
[09:25] <cheapie> Gaurav___: Yep. It started.
[09:25] <Gaurav___> cheapie: nice, weren't you able to find it in menues. Never tried LXDE myself.
[09:25] <Gaurav___> missed a question mark there.
[09:26] <cheapie> Gaurav___: I found it in the menu, but it wouldn't work when started from there.
[09:26] <trap241> I know this syntax "grep texttosearch . - R" which searches recursively into all the files & prints its presents, now.. is there a syntax which would ask me to replace the occurrence of 'texttosearch' with some a new 'texttosearch1' one by one asking me ?
[09:26] <trap241> i know its hard as hell
[09:26] <GauravButola> cheapie: ahh... ok, commands are helful at these times ;)
[09:27] <cheapie> GauravButola: Also, is there any reason that it needs to launch gksu thrice?
[09:27] <chomping> guys, I'm new to apt-get. Now I tried installing ntp package, but it wasn't found. How would I able to add repositories in apt-get?
[09:28] <trap241> I know this syntax "grep texttosearch . - R" which searches recursively into all the files & prints its presents, now.. is there a syntax which would ask me to replace the occurrence of 'texttosearch' with some a new 'texttosearch1' one by one asking me ?
[09:28] <GauravButola> GauravButola: 11.04 right? I also faced same issue on natty, don't why though. Wasn't there in maverick.
[09:28] <[SpitfirE]> Does anyone know why booting from a LiveUSB wouldn't work if ive followed the instructions found online three times. When I tell it to boot from USB it comes up with a menu that hangs around for about a second but then it disappears. I get a black screen and it says it cant create a directory.
[09:28]  * cheapie watches GauravButola talk to him/herself
[09:29] <rich__> why when i copy files from one FS to another is the file count different, in this instance XFS to ext4
[09:29] <fructose> I need help disabling my touchpad. I added this command to my startup applications: xinput set-prop 13 "Device Enabled" 0 ... and that works, but after some period of time (or maybe after screensaver or something) it turns back on. Any idea on what I can do to keep it off?
[09:29] <cheapie> fructose: A cron job to do that maybe?
[09:29] <GauravButola> cheapie: lol... meant to mention you >.<
[09:30] <cheapie> GauravButola: I figured that. Also, I'm running Oneiric.
[09:30] <trap241> I know this syntax "grep texttosearch . - R" which searches recursively into all the files & prints its presents, now.. is there a syntax which would ask me to replace the occurrence of 'texttosearch' with some a new 'texttosearch1' one by one asking me ?
[09:30] <fructose> cheapie: Then I'd just have periods where it would be turned on
[09:30] <JohnTeddy> How do I 'connect to a server', like an ssh folder, or a windows share, or ftp.
[09:30] <JohnTeddy> I can't find any of the menus on the new ubuntu.
[09:31] <GauravButola> chomping: It reckon its for security concerns.
[09:31] <trap241> I know this syntax "grep texttosearch . - R" which searches recursively into all the files & prints its presents, now.. is there a syntax which would ask me to replace the occurrence of 'texttosearch' with some a new 'texttosearch1' one by one asking me ?
[09:31] <trap241> any tips of commands would do
[09:31] <GauravButola> chomping: sudo add-apt-repository PPA_HERE
[09:32] <novoid> Terminal: why does the background color change from black to dark gray when I enter vim or mutt?
[09:32] <GauravButola> chomping: sorry first mention wasn't meant for you. ME screw >.<
[09:33] <trap241> ;(
[09:33] <trap241> :(
[09:33] <trap241> I know this syntax "grep texttosearch . - R" which searches recursively into all the files & prints its presents, now.. is there a syntax which would ask me to replace the occurrence of 'texttosearch' with some a new 'texttosearch1' one by one asking me ?
[09:33] <trap241> :(
[09:33] <FloodBot1> trap241: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <GauravButola> FloodBot1: no
[09:33] <chomping> GauravButola: np. Thank you. BTW, how in apt-get to check if the package is already installed?
[09:33] <trap241> FloodBot No Reply
[09:34] <cheapie> GauravButola: Why can I only create a 4GB persistence file even though I have space for more? Is it using that engineering FAIL known as FAT32? Also, it had me gksu again...
[09:34] <GauravButola> GauravButola: Sorry don't know much about that, I use apt-get to only install, remove, and add ppa
[09:35] <bullgard4> '~$ ubuntu-bug synaptic' obtains: "Invalid problem report. Could not determine package or source package name. Close." What should I do?
[09:35] <GauravButola> cheapie: sorry, no idea.
[09:36] <Zinger> Help me please make corectly NVIDIA on laptop RC710
[09:36] <flipflop> hello
[09:36] <cheapie> GauravButola: Oh well. I'm going to boot from that flash drive now and reinstall Ubuntu (I don't have a CD drive).
[09:37] <flipflop> I search for some mouse efect like in this http://geuz.org/gmsh/screencasts
[09:37] <GauravButola> cheapie: cd drive, what's that :P
[09:37] <Kenty22> Help please, when I login, the screen blinks black and drops me back to the login screen. I have replaced X11 folder with one from re-installed ubuntu, and same thing still hapening, although the original ubuntu X11 folder works fine
[09:39] <GauravButola> Kenty22: I have the same issue on a fresh natty install.
[09:40] <flipflop> I'm searching for some mouse effect like in this  http://geuz.org/gmsh/screencasts but in ubuntu
[09:40] <Kenty22> GauravButola:  i am using 10.04, and it started hapening after a restart (the system uptime was about 10 minutes before restart). I re-installed 10.04 on a separate partition, and took its X11 folder and replaced the original one with it, its still the same
[09:40] <Kenty22> Can someone suggest how can I re-insttall nvidia  gfx drivers from command line?
[09:41] <GauravButola> Kenty22: ah.. 10.04 ? you should go to http://askubuntu.com for better support. Its a known issue on natty though.
[09:41] <Zinger> Kenty 22: I also have problem with NVIDIA on laptop
[09:42] <flipflop> Kenty22, there exist a lot of documentation of that kind of problems... search for you lspci
[09:43] <Kenty22> flipflop:  I found a lot, but none of those suggestions help
[09:43] <Kenty22> flipflop:  I think the issue is not in xorg.conf, but in corrupt driver, possibly, or somethign else
[09:43] <Kenty22> flipflop:  since as I said before, I replaced the xorg with a working one from a different install, and it still doesnt work
[09:44] <cafenet> hey guys im trying to  config gyachi but it gives me this error : http://pastebin.com/2zLiLHis
[09:44] <flipflop> Kenty22, try with another user...
[09:45] <koskoz> hi
[09:45] <Kenty22> flipflop: doeesnt work with another user either, I have 4, 2 of them were rarely used, happens with everyonee
[09:45] <Zinger> HELP I can not work with Visual Effect on laptop Nvidia driver doesn't work correctly
[09:46] <koskoz> I've added the command "xbindkeys" in my startup applications. It was doing fine until today where it seems the software wasn't launched
[09:47] <koskoz> I add to launch it in a prompt to activate my binds
[09:47] <koskoz> any idea?
[09:52] <deprito> ubuntu black screen 11.04 after install... can help me?
[09:53] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo apt-get update' obtains as the first line: "Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com natty InRelease." What does 'InRelease' mean?
[09:53] <bigeye> Can I downgrade to 10.10 from 11.04? :(
[09:53] <bullgard4> bigeye: No.
[09:54] <bigeye> bullgard4: Thanks..
[09:54] <mattisfreenode> My Unity Dock refuses to hide. What can I do?
[09:54] <deprito> ubuntu black screen 11.04 after install... can help me?
[09:54] <Kenty22> How do I uninstall nvidia restricted drivers from console? it seems they are causing a trouble
[09:55] <deprito> ubuntu 11.04 black screen after install... can help me?
[09:55] <deprito> nope, i use intel GMA
[09:55] <deprito> my notebook is aspire 4736
[09:56] <c-c-m> hello, I have installed ubuntu 11.04 into a HP dv500 and it doesn't detect the wifi card, even though I activated the restricted drivers that ubuntu detected
[09:56] <c-c-m> is there any way to solve this problem?
[09:56] <bullgard4> deprito: What do you see if you press Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[09:56] <Yami_Bas> hello :)
[09:56] <c-c-m> the laptop is a little bit old right now
[09:56] <Yami_Bas> can anyone help me out with installing some software?
[09:56] <cordiceps> c-c-m: try a different distro.
[09:56] <Yami_Bas> I need to make a NFS mount pount and create a folder in my /usr account
[09:57] <cordiceps> ubuntu won't fare well on old hardware as it's becoming a massive bloat.
[09:57] <c-c-m> strange reply for an ubuntu chat. Do you mean that there's no way to solve it in ubuntu?
[09:57] <Yami_Bas> netsplit XD
[09:57] <somethinginteres> anyone here a student? I'm looking really good referencing software similar to Endnote in quality and feature set
[09:58] <Yami_Bas> well im trying to install matlab lol XD
[09:58] <Yami_Bas> can anyone help me out with some basic instructions?
[09:58] <bullgard4> !wireless | c-c-m
[09:58] <Yami_Bas> cuz im stuck....
[09:58] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: what instructions are you using ?
[09:58] <Yami_Bas> from my schools website
[09:58] <Yami_Bas> but they are breef for a beginner
[09:58] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: ok - what part are you stuck on
[09:58] <Yami_Bas> kan i pm you the instructions?
[09:58] <Yami_Bas> can*
[09:59] <c-c-m> than you bullgard4
[09:59] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: I'd rather you just explained what you're stuck with
[09:59] <Yami_Bas> first step
[09:59] <Yami_Bas> XD
[09:59] <Kruptein> Hey, I have a second screen which works perfectly with the nvidia X Server Settings,  but I need to set this up each time I connect my second screen or if I login    Is it possible to make this process automagickally :p
[09:59] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: ok - what's the first step
[09:59] <Yami_Bas>     Make directory /usr/tuelocal     Add a NFS mount entry to /etc/fstab :     hercules.tue.nl:/vol/hercules/tuelocal/linux  /usr/tuelocal  nfs  defaults  0  0     Do the NFS mount:     mount /usr/tuelocal     Add possibly /usr/tuelocal/bin to the searchpath. After that just typing the application name (matlab,mathematica (math)) will start the application.
[10:00] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys how do i get a tail message to stay on ..
[10:00] <Yami_Bas> these are all steps... and idk how to do them XD
[10:00] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: ok, if you're not happy with that level of information, I suggest you ask your school admin to help you,
[10:00] <cordiceps> Cpt_Zyph: tail -f
[10:00] <Yami_Bas> ikonia:
[10:00] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: not being rude, but if that's too complex for you, you're possibly going to do damage to your machine
[10:00] <Yami_Bas> i just i dont know how to execute them..
[10:01] <matt2s> The Unity Dock, the new thing with all the shortcuts on it, is not hiding any more. How can I get it to hide?
[10:01] <Yami_Bas> i started out yesterday >.<
[10:01] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: so it is best to ask your schools admin on how to do it
[10:01] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: yes, you don't know how to do it, so asking your local admin for help is the best option
[10:01] <Yami_Bas> and idc if i damage my machine...
[10:01] <Cpt_Zyph> werid cuz i put "dmesg |tail -f" but it dosnt stay on just goes to prompt after a few blinks of the eye
[10:01] <Yami_Bas> ill just format
[10:01] <Yami_Bas> and try again
[10:01] <Yami_Bas> it's not that im far...
[10:01] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: ask your admin, as they are instructions local/specific to your school
[10:01] <Yami_Bas> and local admins on my school suck >.<
[10:01] <Kruptein> Yami_Bas: what ikonia is trying to say is that it are very basic commands and if you don't know them it's better that you ask your admin
[10:01] <Yami_Bas> and what im saying is idc if i screw up...
[10:02] <cordiceps> Cpt_Zyph: dmesg | less
[10:02] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: you should talk to your admins, the instructions are specifc to your school
[10:02] <Yami_Bas> mweeh >.<
[10:02] <Yami_Bas> i just dont know how to create a folder inside the /usr because there is no option to
[10:02] <Yami_Bas> and i need to sudo it somehow
[10:02] <Yami_Bas> >.<
[10:02] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: ok - so talk to your admins
[10:02] <Yami_Bas> im not a retard
[10:02] <FloodBot1> Yami_Bas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: please don't use phrases like retard
[10:03] <faLUCE> I have a continous stream of characters. sometime, the sequence "rrrrrr" occours. If I do curl -s http://localhost:5552 | grep -m1 "rrrrr"  , the command doesn't break if the sequence is found. I don't understand why
[10:03] <Yami_Bas> i said it to myself... but alright
[10:03] <Yami_Bas> ill figure it out
[10:03] <Cpt_Zyph> ok but in the past a long time back i used a  sugested tail command and it just stayed on and everytime i plugged in or turned on wifi power i would see the message and visa versa.. was hoping to do the same now.. is it SU power only?
[10:03] <ikonia> ok
[10:03] <Yami_Bas> cba to meet the admisn
[10:03] <Guest90625> Please help tuning NVIDIA driver on laptop samsung RC710
[10:03] <Yami_Bas> need to walk like 2 miles for that -.-
[10:03] <ikonia> Yami_Bas: then I can't be bothered to help you either
[10:03] <cordiceps> Cpt_Zyph: dmesg > dmesg.log | tail -f
[10:03] <Guest90625> Please help tuning NVIDIA driver on laptop samsung RC710
[10:03] <Cpt_Zyph> aaaa ill try that
[10:04] <Guest90625> Please help tuning NVIDIA driver on laptop samsung RC710
[10:04] <ikonia> Guest90625: calm down please
[10:04] <Yami_Bas> ikonia
[10:04] <cordiceps> Guest90625: use noveau, nivdia sucks
[10:04] <Yami_Bas> mkdir /usr/tuelocal ...
[10:04] <Kruptein> wtf is floodbot doing? =D
[10:04] <Yami_Bas> was that too much too ask?
[10:04] <somethinginteres> Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to implement the power saving techniques at lesswatts.org in one -go- as it were. On an automatic basis when the laptop goes onto battery power?
[10:04] <ikonia> Kruptein: calm down on the language please
[10:04] <cafenet> i cant connect to kopete is it related to that im using GNOME?
[10:05] <Yami_Bas> ikonia what is so offensive about it...?
[10:05] <ikonia> !wtf > Yami_Bas
[10:05] <Kruptein> !wtf > Kruptein
 Please more information
 calm now is down and doesn't work
[10:06] <Yami_Bas> ikonia
[10:07] <Yami_Bas> im done talking to you >.<
[10:07] <Yami_Bas> no offense
[10:07] <Kruptein> and Yami_Bas please put the name on the same line as the message :p
[10:07] <Yami_Bas> Kruptein: alright :)
[10:09] <mlaci> how can i get the number of packages in natty?
 I made all that I know and the problem is not resolve now. Do you help me?
[10:10] <Guest71380> mlaci: of ALL packages or the ones you have installed?
[10:10] <introuble_>  how can i disable certain sites to be able to be viewed by my lan. those with some keywords like sex, porn. etc. ?,the dsl modem/router gives ips by dhcp to all clients. and router doesnt have an option of filtering sites
[10:10] <mlaci> Guest71380, ALL packages
[10:11] <ikonia> introuble_: there are many ways you can look at a proxy such as squid and use a scoring method on content, or you can just cheat and black list specific website with iptables or /etc/hosts
[10:11] <szal> Guest71380, Guest90625 (and all other Guests too): how about you name yourselves properly? :)
[10:11] <Kruptein> ikonia: but will the second option be available for whole the lan network?
[10:12] <Guest71380> whoops, where's my nick gone..
[10:12] <bullgard4> mlaci: http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2008/12/19/counting-number-of-packages-under-debian-linux/
[10:12] <ikonia> Kruptein: it would if it is the gateway machine, as I said, depends on his situation
[10:12] <introuble_> ikonia i should infrom you that iam not using the server as dhcp server
 sorry but my client IRC I cann't change the "Guest" name
[10:13] <Kruptein> ikonia: I just asked because I'm not familiar with how networking works under the hood :)
[10:13] <ikonia> introuble_: dhcp has nothing to do with it
[10:13] <introuble_> squid is to be installed on the server. but clients use internet directly from router
[10:13] <ikonia> Kruptein: depends on how his lan is setup
[10:14] <ikonia> introuble_: then you need to either blacklist the sites on each users machines host file, or look at some technology on the router
[10:14] <Yami_Bas_> what is the terminal command to add a command to etc/fbstab?
[10:14] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: please stop
[10:14] <szal> Guest90625: try "/nick newNick" and watch any messages in the server tab if you don't get server notices in the active tab, for you will be renamed again if you choose a nick that's registered to somebody
[10:14] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: please ask your admin, we are not going to tell you every command for that instruction list
[10:14] <Yami_Bas_> i am learning
[10:14] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: those instructions are specific to YOUR school
[10:14] <Yami_Bas_> idc if i screw up
[10:14] <vega-> mlaci: not sure.. maybe something like apt-cache dump | grep ^Package | uniq | wc -l
[10:15] <Yami_Bas_> i just want a basic command...
[10:15] <Yami_Bas_> im not asking for a walkthrough >.<
[10:15] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_:we are not going to tell you every command to type - you need to research
[10:15] <Zinger> q
[10:15] <Yami_Bas_> i will
[10:15] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: you are asking for each command, that is a walk through
[10:15] <Yami_Bas_> im asking for the command in general
[10:15] <Yami_Bas_> not askign for a walkthrough
[10:15] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: there is no "general" command
[10:15] <Yami_Bas_> and i think its childish you wont tell me
[10:16] <Yami_Bas_> im old enough to decide whether i want to do it myself...
[10:16] <Yami_Bas_> but whatever
[10:16] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: I'm not being childish, the instructions are specific to your school, so we don't know how it's setup, licensening etc etc, so that's why you need to talk to your admin
[10:16] <Kruptein> Yami_Bas_: Please do some basic bash tutorial
[10:16] <introuble_> ikonia my current router doesnt have that facility . what can i do
[10:16] <mlaci> bullgard4, vega-, thanks a lot guys, you've both provided very useful info about package numbers
[10:16] <Kruptein> Yami_Bas_: and after that go to your admin for the specific things
[10:16] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: http://www.tldp.org for basic introduction to linux or https://help.ubuntu.com for an introductiont o ubuntu
[10:16] <ikonia> introuble_: can't do anything
[10:16] <cordiceps> ROFL@command in general
[10:17] <cordiceps> I lol'd
[10:17] <ikonia> cordiceps: ok - don't need to mock
[10:17] <Yami_Bas_> Kruptein: it's just basic lol nothing big
[10:17] <Nisstyre> yes
[10:17] <introuble_> ikonia ok
[10:17] <Yami_Bas_> just installing some software over VPN...
[10:17] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: ok, well, you've been given introduction to Linux and Ubuntu now, so that should get you moving
[10:17] <Kruptein> Yami_Bas_: just because it's basic it's YOU that need to do the researsh and some tutorials
[10:18] <Yami_Bas_> i am >.<
[10:18] <Kruptein> Yami_Bas_: if we give every command (and if we could which isn't because of the school specific things)  you wouldn't learn anything and you would be back next week
[10:18] <Yami_Bas_> but sometimes stuff isnt that simple to find >.<
[10:18] <Yami_Bas_> Kruptein: i wont once ive done it i recall it...
[10:18] <cordiceps> Yami_Bas_: google, man pages, the -h or --help
[10:18] <osmosis_paul> morning somebody here can tell me if in sudoers if i have two User_alias can i repeat the User_alias attribute?
[10:18] <cordiceps> Yami_Bas_: this is not m$$
[10:18] <Yami_Bas_> i will :)
[10:18] <osmosis_paul> like here
[10:18] <osmosis_paul> User_Alias      DEVELOPERS = pperez,rbakker,mtimerbaeva
[10:18] <osmosis_paul> User_Alias      USERS = pperez,rbakker,mtimerbaeva,jsantos
[10:19] <Yami_Bas_> linux > ms big time
[10:19] <Yami_Bas_> linux kernel <3
[10:19] <Yami_Bas_> still not perfect but really good
[10:19] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: please stop talking about things you don't undersetand
[10:19] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: we are here for Ubuntu support, please try to stick to that topic
[10:19] <cordiceps> lol
[10:19] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: sorry, could you expand a little on what you mean
[10:19] <Yami_Bas_> and when i ask a question i get
[10:19] <jink> osmosis_paul: "man sudoers" says you can
[10:19] <Yami_Bas_> i wont help you
[10:19] <Yami_Bas_> ... -.-
[10:20] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: do you mean, can you alias a user 2 times ?
[10:20] <Yami_Bas_> anyways im done here
[10:20] <ikonia> bye
[10:20] <Yami_Bas_> before i get mad...
[10:20] <Yami_Bas_> bye
[10:20] <cordiceps> Yami_Bas_: ok wtf yous trying to do
[10:20] <FloodBot1> Yami_Bas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <ikonia> cordiceps: enough witht he langugage
[10:20] <Kruptein> Yami_Bas_: you didn't know how to create a directory, so please fist do a tutorial
[10:20] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, when i',m editing the sudoers file i want have two groups of users
[10:20] <Yami_Bas_> i already did that
[10:20] <Yami_Bas_> sudo su
[10:20] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: sure, that should work fine if I understand what you're trying to do
[10:20] <Yami_Bas_> mkdir
[10:20] <szal> Kruptein: fist a tutorial? :o
[10:20] <Yami_Bas_> ;/
[10:20] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: no, sudo su is not correct
[10:20] <FloodBot1> Yami_Bas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <osmosis_paul> jink, already read the man of sudoers dont response me that question
[10:20] <ikonia> !sudo > Yami_Bas_
[10:20] <Kruptein> szal: :p stupid typo
[10:20] <cordiceps> Yami_Bas_: it's sudo mkdir
[10:20] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com as an introduction
[10:20] <Yami_Bas_> cordiceps
[10:21] <Yami_Bas_> i gave myself sudo su
[10:21] <jink> osmosis_paul: read the EXAMPLES section.
[10:21] <Yami_Bas_> to main su
[10:21] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: that will give you an introduction to the basics
[10:21] <Yami_Bas_> maintain*
[10:21] <FloodBot1> Yami_Bas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: also read the pm that the bot "ubottu" has just sent you
[10:21] <cordiceps> Yami_Bas_: that's not how ubuntu works.
[10:21] <jinx11> hy
[10:21] <Kruptein> ikonia: question about ubottu :p  is it because of the ">" that it becomes a pm and is the "|" global chat?
[10:21] <ikonia> Kruptein: correct
[10:21] <cordiceps> Yami_Bas_: if you wanna use sudo su try another distro.
[10:22] <Kruptein> ikonia: nice :) didn't know that
[10:22] <Yami_Bas_> cordiceps: it works on ubuntu...
[10:22] <Yami_Bas_> just did it...
[10:22] <Yami_Bas_> >.<
[10:22] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: that's not how you do it, read the link ubottu just sent you
[10:22] <koskoz> does someone here have succeeded installing Photoshop CS5?
[10:22] <Yami_Bas_> anyways thanks for that link ikonia
[10:22] <Yami_Bas_> will get me far
[10:22] <ikonia> Yami_Bas_: as I've also said, check out https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <ikonia> Kruptein: ask the guys in #winehq
[10:22] <ikonia> Kruptein: sorry, not you
[10:22] <ikonia> koskoz: ask the guys in #winehq
[10:23] <cordiceps> koskoz: no. but I've been succesful installing... GIMP
[10:23] <koskoz> ok ikonia
[10:23] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, only if you have a minute can you take a look to my sudoers file http://codepaste.net/8suuop i'm looking the manual and docs in google and everythings look fine
[10:23] <koskoz> cordiceps: really?
[10:23] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, but my USERS group still can not reach the APACHE log folder
[10:23] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: as I'm looking, did you edit it with "visudo"
[10:23] <Cpt_Zyph> dmesg > dmesg.log | tail -f didn
[10:23] <Cpt_Zyph> didnt produce any results
[10:23] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, with sudo
[10:23] <osmosis_paul> with the root acount
[10:24] <rich__> does anyone have experience with dell PRECs?
[10:24] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: that won't work as "/var/log/apache2" isn't a "command"
[10:24] <Yami_Bas_> i just have 1 more question would be great if it could be answered
[10:24] <cordiceps> koskoz: if you are going to use linux use linux programs --> www.gimp.org/
[10:24] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: you've issues a directory as a Cmnd_Alias
[10:24] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, ahhhhh i'm a dumb
[10:24] <koskoz> cordiceps, stop saying bull****, gimp sux comparing to photoshop
[10:25] <koskoz> you can't even compare them
[10:25] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, sorry and thanks
[10:25] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: no, I see what you're doing, but you've just come at it fromt he wrong way
[10:25] <Yami_Bas_> how do i add 'hercules.tue.nl:/vol/hercules/tuelocal/linux  /usr/tuelocal  nfs  defaults  0  0' (without the quotes) to /etc/stab
[10:25] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: not a problem
[10:25] <Kruptein> koskoz, cordiceps:   gimp is a good image editor equivalent to photoshop,  but if he wants to use photoshop let him try and ask in #winehq
[10:26] <intranick> Sorry, after seeing that, this is NOT my idea of a helpful channel.
[10:26] <koskoz> lol no, gimp is not equivalent to photoshop, not at all
[10:26] <Nisstyre> yes
[10:26] <th^^> not even nearly equilevant :)
[10:26] <Kruptein> ikonia: :D that was nice
[10:26] <koskoz> have you ever use photoshop for real?
[10:26] <th^^> but fine image editor nonetheless
[10:26] <cordiceps> koskoz: why are you badmouthing open source?
[10:26] <cordiceps> the latest gimp got single window mode
[10:27] <koskoz> cordiceps, you are trying to compare a ferrari to a toyota
[10:27] <th^^> artists done give a flying duck wether their tool is oss or not, it just needs to work
[10:27] <Kruptein> cordiceps: single-window-mode already existed, but not official ;)
[10:27] <cordiceps> I edit my 'y u not ...' macros in inkscape and gimp.
[10:27] <saamm> One of my friend bought Braid from Software Center, but sound is not working. Where should I report this?
[10:28] <th^^> cordiceps: if you really think single window or not is the problem of gimp, it really tells me you're not 1) an artist and 2) have never really used photoshop
[10:28] <th^^> .9
[10:28] <th^^> :)
[10:28] <saamm> is there an irc channel for paid apps support?
[10:28] <[SpitfirE]> Hey does anyone know whats going wrong when i try to boot from liveUSB. Ive formatted the USB and put the ISO on it with UNetbootin, tried to boot from USB and clicked "Try Ubuntu", the screen went black and it ended with root\interface: nonexistent directory
[10:28] <cordiceps> yeah, I never used photoshop, I don't have to spend $1000 for a blob to create my stuff.
[10:28] <[SpitfirE]> And ceased to work.
[10:28] <somethinginteres> saamm: If the problem is with the game itself, then best to report it "upstream" to the developers of the game itself noting your setup and how you got the app etc.
[10:28] <Kruptein> saamm: the problem probably is caused by the program not with ubuntu
[10:28] <LjL> saamm: i don't think there is one yet - you should probably refer to whatever support Braid itself provides
[10:28] <koskoz> th^^,  he just edits his macros, how can he knows how powerful photoshop is then...
[10:29] <Kruptein> koskoz: just ask in #winehq and you will be happy okay :p
[10:29] <th^^> $1000 for the tool that gives you living is nothing
[10:29] <th^^> you get that from a single project
[10:29] <saamm> braid has no support forum, page or anything...just an email :(
[10:29] <somethinginteres> saamm: unfortunately that's still your best bet
[10:30] <Kruptein> saamm: you will have to use the email as it's only braid who can fix it
[10:30] <koskoz> Kruptein, that's what I did
[10:31] <saamm> uhm isnt there a way that we file a bug in launchpad and it is reported in upstream as Ubuntu developers may have better contacts with app providers
[10:31] <szal> koskoz: while you're waiting for an answer over there, you might wanna browse http://appdb.winehq.org/
[10:31] <Kruptein> koskoz: and is it solved?
[10:31] <cordiceps> saamm: yes it is possible.
[10:32] <koskoz> Kruptein, not even answered
[10:32] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, i did not see in the manual how to limit the access to a folder only several users, i guess that it is possible right?
[10:32] <Kruptein> koskoz: then do what szal said and check the appdb
[10:32] <cordiceps> also using photoshop in linux is dumb, wine only supports dx9 and no GPU acceleration while GIMP already uses full GPU acceleration.
[10:32] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: just use file system permissions
[10:32] <koskoz> szal, what did you think... I've followed this steps, copying it from a windows install: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20158
[10:32] <somethinginteres> saamm: it might be possible if a launchpad project has been setup for the game but given the game is a third party product and not open source (?) the email is the way to go unless the devs tell you it is an ubuntu specific problem
[10:33] <saamm> ok I will try to contact via email...thanks
[10:33] <Kruptein> koskoz: from where is it failing?
[10:33] <Kruptein> hm doesn't sound correct :p
[10:34] <Kruptein> koskoz: do you get any errors?
[10:34] <szal> koskoz: I think that for running such a beast of a program, you might wanna set up a dedicated Windblows machine, be it a virtual machine if you have sufficient machine power for that
[10:35] <MagicJ> I am getting th message:  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". - what do I need to fix?
[10:35] <koskoz> szal, I already have Photoshop 7 working, but I've got some bugs and it's not enough
[10:36] <koskoz> szal, I already have a VM with Windows XP but the display is slow enough to let me think that Photosop will be really slow under it
[10:36] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, it is not possible do it with sudoers, i dont like to give permisio
[10:36] <SomeBody2> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[10:37] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, already have that users in a group, but when the access.log file of apache is created he create that file with root.root so at least have to let the user access to this file by sudo
[10:37] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, so my question again would be it is possible with sudoers limit the access to a root file for some users????
[10:38] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: you'll find it more effective to just use file system permissions
[10:38] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, yes but as i told you when apache create the access.log he create as root user and group
[10:39] <osmosis_paul> and i cannnot do it manually every day
[10:39] <osmosis_paul> to change that group permision
[10:39] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: either a.) change the creation mask of the file, b.) use a cronjob to change the permissions on the file c.) add the users to the group
[10:40] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, the group is root if i add the user there is super user
[10:40] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: so ?
[10:40] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, i dont want
[10:40] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: do one of the other 2 steps then
[10:40] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, that's why i conmfig sudoers to give super power only for concrete acctions
[10:41] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, sudoers dont allow limit the access to a file for some users as root then?
[10:41] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: either a.) change the mask on the file creation b.) change the ownership of the file creation
[10:41] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: you can do it with sudo - but it is better to use file system permissions as they are meant to be
[10:42] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, ok thanks, will try first with sudo and if i can not will think in cron jobs
[10:42] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: you're not listening
[10:42] <barberan> hi all
[10:42] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: change the file creation mask or file creation ownership -
[10:42] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: you don't need to use cronjobs or sudo
[10:43] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, sorry i dont understand what do you mean with the file creation mask
[10:43] <cheapie> This isn't really an issue, but does anybody know why I get 700 KB/s download speeds in Ubuntu, but only 100 KB/s in Windows?
[10:43] <migunite> i've been had.
[10:43] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: you can tell apache to create the file as any user you want, or set a umask on the file so that it has the permissions you want on creation
[10:44] <[SpitfirE]> Does anyone know why I cant seem to boot Ubuntu from a liveUSB, or install it?#
[10:44] <cordiceps> cheapie: ubuntu has higher throughput than m$$, I don't see the problem there.
[10:44] <migunite> [SpitfirE]: there's a way... and i can't help you on that.
[10:44] <cheapie> cordiceps: I know it's not a problem. I'm just wondering why.
[10:44] <th^^> cheapie: downloading from different mirror which can't give as fast download perhaps
[10:44] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, in httpd.conf?
[10:45] <cheapie> th^^: It's any website.
[10:45] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: do a little resarch on file creation mask
[10:45] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, you right thanks
[10:45] <cordiceps> cheapie: you could ask Bill Gate$$
[10:46] <ikonia> cordiceps: I've asked you about the smart comments attitude - last time, STOP, this is a support channel
[10:46] <th^^> cordiceps: you're sucha bad oss troll :p
[10:47] <cheapie> cordiceps: So basically it's simply that Ubuntu has better handling of TCP/IP?
[10:47] <cordiceps> seriously ppl come here trying to troubleshoot m$$ crap, why they don't get warnings?
[10:47] <ikonia> cordiceps: you're not warning, you're making smart mouth comments, it's called "microsoft, not M$$" enough now
[10:47] <cheapie> cordiceps: ...I was just asking about some strange behavior. Wow...
[10:47] <cordiceps> ok then.
[10:48] <cordiceps> m(dollar sign) does it on purpose. When I was setting m(dollar sign)7 with nfs to share with linux I found out that their NFS implementation transfers at slower rates!!
[10:50] <osmosis_paul> ikonia, in /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 i change it, thanks
[10:50] <ikonia> osmosis_paul: ahh, that's a better solution, good idea
[10:51] <sreeju> my system hangs when i close chrome after browsing
[10:51] <sreeju> what to to please help
[10:51] <remx> what's the closest alternative to visual basic for ubuntu? in terms of easy programming
[10:51] <ikonia> remx: there isn't one
[10:51] <MagicJ> at one point my system had an nvidia card - how do I disable the driver and just revert to default
[10:52] <th^^> remx: http://radicalbreeze.com/ this is pretty easy
[10:52] <th^^> remx: but i would recommend learning glade/gtk, then combinign that with some easy language like python
[10:52] <th^^> but guess python is quite safe and easy bet
[10:53] <th^^> illumination isn't free, tho..
[10:53] <remx> th^^ thank you kindly. I only need to create one app :)
[10:54] <scarleo> Hi, my Broadcom wifi doesn't work after updating to 11.4. I used proprietary STA driver under 10.10 and all was working. Now it says wireless is disabled
[10:54] <somethinginteres> remx: I would also suggest python
[10:54] <somethinginteres> scarleo: try a dmesg to see if there was any errors on boot
[10:55] <scarleo> somethinginteres, Ok, brb
[10:55] <th^^> scarleo: check if additional drivers screen offers this
[10:55] <th^^> scarleo: search for 'drivers' in unity or if you use classic, under system menu iirc
[10:55] <scarleo> th^^, yes it does, says its active and currently in use but still no luck
[10:55] <th^^> hm
[10:55] <th^^> try disable it
[10:56] <th^^> boot, then enable again
[10:56] <AdvoWork> im doing: du -csh / --max-depth=1  but getting: du: warning: summarizing conflicts with --max-depth=1  but the man page shows that option, any ideas please?
[10:56] <th^^> and then boot again just to make sure it's loaded again
[10:56] <th^^> :p
[10:56] <scarleo> th^^, already done, nothing
[10:56] <th^^> :/
[10:58] <ubuntucu_ahmet> hello!
[10:58] <scarleo> th^^, wireless is still greyed out in network-manager
[10:58] <AdvoWork> how would i link to/shortcut to a file thats over sftp?
[10:59] <ubuntucu_ahmet> Is there someone who use Chrome with any adblock extension properly ?
[10:59] <th^^> scarleo: can't really help, i'm using desktop with wired connection :p
[10:59] <scarleo> th^^, ok, thx anyway
[10:59] <th^^> ubuntucu_ahmet: i recommend just installing flashblock, it blocks like 99% ads ;)
[10:59] <th^^> ubuntucu_ahmet: + combine that with ghostery
[11:00] <ubuntucu_ahmet>  th^^:  i know thank you. but to black the flash are like to block all internet for me :( . I am waiting for html5 :)
[11:00] <szal> th^^: yeah sure..  why install the Flash plugin anyway if you're going to block Flash? ;)
[11:00] <ubuntucu_ahmet> th^^:  also ghostery is not an opensource extensions :(
[11:00] <th^^> ubuntucu_ahmet: flashblock allows you just to click on flashes you wanna activate, also whitelist sites
[11:01] <th^^> szal: youtube
[11:01] <th^^> and other, ehm, tubes
[11:01] <th^^> ;)
[11:01] <stefano> qualcuno ha qualche programmino in c++ per leggere e scrivere sulla porta parallela?
[11:01] <bullgard4> I modified the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list. When does this modification become effective?
[11:01] <th^^> bullgard4: sudo apt-get update
[11:02] <ubuntucu_ahmet>  th^^:  i cant understand why with adblock extension increase every tab at least 50 mb on chrome ? it cleans the adds (which some of them are flash). So chrome need to use less memory :( but it is not...
[11:03] <migunite> stefano: este para yun concepsion
[11:03] <bullgard4> th^^: I know this command. Can you answer the question which I have put?
[11:03] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[11:03] <th^^> ubuntucu_ahmet: no idea, but i've found ghostery + flashblock work good enough
[11:04] <silv3r_m00n> if I install ttf-mscorefonts then google chrome stops showing hindi fonts
[11:04] <silv3r_m00n> is there a way to fix this ?
[11:04] <th^^> bullgard4: that command makes apt to reload repositories, which means the change is 'effective' and you can now install apps from that repository
[11:04] <th^^> bullgard4: or, sudo apt-get upgrade if you expect it to update something from the given repo
[11:04] <ubuntucu_ahmet> th^^: ghostery is not open source i cant insall it for THIS PURPOSE :)
[11:05] <ceza> hello word
[11:05] <bullgard4> th^^: Thank you very much for your explanation.
[11:05] <arun_mittal> hey guys i upgraded my system from 9.04 to 10.04, but now i am getting an error and i can not login to my system , error "init: rc-default main process terminated with status 127"
[11:06] <arun_mittal> any help on this guys ??
[11:07] <piercedwater> Can anyone tell me why Handbrake won't convert my video. When I click convert it just jumps to the finished message.
[11:08] <somethinginteres> piercedwater: you probably best to seek help for that in the handbrake irc channel. Maybe #handbrake?
[11:09] <piercedwater> I tried but im banned for some reason
[11:12] <wym> hello everyone
[11:12] <trap24> what is a .so file ?
[11:13] <wym> .so?
[11:13] <wym> Don't know
[11:13] <trap24> libJMagick.so ?
[11:13] <benonsoftware> I know 1 minute
[11:13] <trap24> what kind of extension ?
[11:13] <trap24> benonsoftware: ok
[11:14] <szal> wym: http://filext.com/
[11:14] <Hyperbyte> trap24:  type 'file <filename>'    it tells you what file it is
[11:14] <wym> is a domain name
[11:14] <trap24> szal: benonsoftware better here http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LibraryArchives-StaticAndDynamic.html
[11:14] <Hyperbyte> In this case, it'll tell you it's a 'shared object'.
[11:15] <benonsoftware> I think it is either a Apache module file or I think a translattion file
[11:15] <benonsoftware> Not translation
[11:15] <zolamisq> What is the easiest solution when it comes to ubuntu and speech recognition software (am willing to pay for it)?
[11:15] <Zinger> Hello! Who has a notebook RC710 samsung with Ubuntu 10.10?
[11:16] <swine__> hey, does anyone here use a glossy display >?
[11:16] <Zinger> Hello! Who has a notebook RC710 samsung with Ubuntu 10.10? I have problem with vidio mode
[11:16] <benonsoftware> swine_ what?
[11:16] <saket__> Zinger whats ur problem
[11:16] <saket__> ?
[11:16] <swine__> benonsoftware, glossy lcd
[11:17] <benonsoftware> Ohh ok
[11:17] <swine__> benonsoftware, wondering how bad it is for writing code
[11:17] <benonsoftware> Hard and super hard
[11:17] <benonsoftware> Using it now
[11:17] <Zinger> saket__: NVIDIA driver doesn't work correctly I can't start Visual Effects
[11:18] <swine__> benonsoftware, were you talking to me ?
[11:18] <Zinger> saket__: Also I can't plug second monitor to the laptop
[11:18] <saket__> Zinger
[11:18] <nykur> Can anyone tell me how access the rest of unity global menu which is hidden under my indicators? Running natty on a netbook with low resolution.
[11:18] <saket__> have u tried installing nvidia from Synaptic?
[11:19] <benonsoftware> yeah about glossy lcd how hard it is Using it now
[11:19] <swine__> benonsoftware, wouldn't recommend it ?
[11:19] <benonsoftware> No not really
[11:19] <benonsoftware> But for games, yes
[11:19] <saket__> Zinger Try->Administration ->Hardware Drivers
[11:19] <swine__> benonsoftware, i write software mostly
[11:20] <saket__> Nvidia shud be displayed ther as a restricted driver
[11:20] <nykur> I feel I should be able to scroll it somehow
[11:20] <benonsoftware> same here (Only 12)
[11:20] <swine__> benonsoftware, what does only 12 mean ?
[11:20] <benonsoftware> Years
[11:20] <nykur> but it's not accessible at all in apps with big menus when I have a sysmonitor indicator running.
[11:20] <swine__> i'm not sure how that's relevant
[11:21] <Blou_Aap> stupid unity bar just stays open now
[11:21] <Blou_Aap> won;t hide
[11:21] <Zinger> saket__: After install Additional drivers I go to console mode. Then I delte xorg.conf file reboot and go to X mode . I made the 10 times
[11:21] <Blou_Aap> >:(
[11:21] <thepentester> fuck unity
[11:21] <benonsoftware> Anyone know how to prepre there Wiki page for Membership. I've seen /Membership
[11:21] <LjL> !language | thepentester
[11:21] <Kruptein> Prob wrong place but wxPython has some problems with unity, is this going to be solved or should I move to gtk?
[11:22] <zolamisq> What is the easiest solution when it comes to ubuntu and speech recognition software (am willing to pay for it)?
[11:22] <saket__> Zinger sounds strange
[11:23] <Zinger> saket__: Main problem  - the Additional driver doesn't work correctly on the laptop
[11:23] <LjL> zolamisq: i don't think there really is an easy solution. you can refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux maybe
[11:23] <pksadiq> Any linux HowTO on "how to answer a question" ?
[11:23] <bullgard4> arun_mittal: I think that this is a serious error. May be you will get help in #ubuntu-kernel .
[11:23] <zolamisq> LjL I read that already
[11:24] <saket__> Zinger: u installed from Administration-Restricted Drivers?
[11:25] <nykur> What would be the appropriate place to ask Unity related questions?
[11:25] <zolamisq> LjL I read about dynaspeak but have no clue where to download or buy it
[11:25] <somethinginteres> zolamisq: it's better than it used to be apparently but the lack of a complete corpus is a problem
[11:26] <zolamisq> somethinginteres: i think about buying a phone and use dragon dictation on it
[11:27] <somethinginteres> zolamisq: it might be possible to use a Windows solution under wine or in a virtual machine
[11:27] <Zinger> saket__: "installed from Administration-Restricted Drivers?" where is the point in menu? I delete and install the drivers by apt-get or Synaptic. I made current driver and made last driver NVIDIA from site. Result false. Problem not resolved
[11:27] <zolamisq> somethinginteres: i know  just hoped to get some quick good advice from someone who uses it here
[11:28] <bullgard4> nykur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Unity&fullsearch=Text
[11:29] <zolamisq> somethinginteres: I don't have the money for Windows and Dragon.
[11:29] <zolamisq> somethinginteres: but as it looks you are right
[11:30] <AdvoWork> how would i link to/shortcut to a file thats over sftp?
[11:31] <nykur> bullgard4: thanks, but this link will not open.
[11:31] <bullgard4> pksadiq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[11:31] <Zinger> How is Specialist in video ?
[11:31] <olskolirc> oops sorry
[11:31] <bullgard4> nykur: This will take very long to open.
[11:33] <nykur> bullgard4: Just leads to an "internal server error" I'm afraid. What is the content?
[11:33] <edgars> yo
[11:33] <bullgard4> AdvoWork: sftp will transfer a file to your computer. So I do not understand your desire.
[11:34] <edgars> in what package i can find keytool?
[11:34] <somethinginteres> zolamisq: it's something I've been looking into myself. More a screen reader than for dictation though. I hope you find a solution
[11:34] <edgars> apt-cache search keytool didnt give me any result
[11:35] <bullgard4> nykur: May be the server is too busy at the moment. Try later again. It gives you hits of Ubuntu Wiki articles about Unity.
[11:35] <bullgard4> edgars: You can answer this question yourself by using packages.ubuntu.com .
[11:36] <[SpitfirE]> Hey guys
[11:37] <nykur> bullgard4: Thanks, will try to search for that. But was hoping someone knew how to solve a specific problem: Accessing the rest of unity global menu which is hidden under my indicators? Running natty on a netbook with low resolution.
[11:37] <neure> hello
[11:37] <igitur> hi. I'd like some help in configuring iptables. This is probably not the channel, but can somebody direct me to an appropriate one?
[11:37] <ikonia> igitur: #netfilter
[11:37] <neure> i have trouble synchronizing clocks on two ubuntu machines
[11:37] <ikonia> neure: what's up
[11:37] <igitur> thanks
[11:37] <neure> i enabled ntpd use but the clocks still differ like 2 minutes
[11:37] <neure> i enabeld from date and time settings and set them to use the same servers
[11:38] <neure> how can i ask ntpd to synchronize the time now?
[11:38] <neure> can i setup one of the machines to synchronize from the other?
[11:38] <[SpitfirE]> Im having some trouble and I was wondering if anyone could help me. Basically im trying to install Ubuntu from a flash drive that ive put the Ubuntu .ISO file onto. When I tell it to boot from USB, I get a couple of errors along the line of "/scripts/casper-bottom/ ... non existent directory/no such file or directory"
[11:39] <[SpitfirE]> I havent been able to find any information on it anywhere and was wondering if anyone knew how to fix it
[11:39] <neure> spitfire, is your iso image ok? try another/redownload image, is your usb stick ok, try another stick?
[11:40]  * SpitfireWP >_>
[11:40] <[SpitfirE]> Ive tried two different .ISO files and every 2GB+ usb stick at my disposal
[11:40] <[SpitfirE]> Heh.
[11:41] <bullgard4> neure: Right-Click on the Time & Date applet > Preferences > (Clock Preferences) > Time Settings > Set System Time
[11:41] <megabraker> hi , i had installed gnome3 in ubuntu 11.04 but when i try to update it says there is a problem and when i try  to report it it says ubuntu is not genuine
[11:42] <Alinn> Hi
[11:42] <Alinn> :)
[11:42] <bullgard4> nykur: I myself am not using Unity if I ever can.
[11:42] <neure> bullgard4:  then what?
[11:42] <bullgard4> neure: I am using GNOME 2 in Natty.
[11:42] <neure> bullgard4: ive set both systems to synchronize from internet servers, yet the times differe 2 minutes
[11:43] <rileyp> anyone good with diskless here
[11:43] <rileyp> time is incorrect on client
[11:43] <edgars> bullgard4: huh, a vas looking for package but it's IN package :>
[11:43] <edgars> i was ;)
[11:43] <Alinn> I have broken dependency in my ubuntu and when i type "apt-get -f install" a lot of packages must remove. see there:http://paste.ubuntu.com/621651/
[11:43] <rileyp> edgars be my pal please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[11:43] <Alinn> Anyone can help me?
[11:43] <bullgard4> neure: I have read before that "ive set both systems to synchronize from internet servers, yet the times differe 2 minutes" Why are you repeating that to me?
[11:44] <rileyp> time is wrong on client though timezone is set correctly
[11:44] <tyler_d> my volume control for alsa is missing anyone help?
[11:44] <ikonia> neure: first things, stop ntp on both servers
[11:44] <ikonia> neure: let me know when you're ready
[11:45] <rileyp> Can I set time on client off server
[11:45] <Alinn> Can anyone help me?
[11:45] <rileyp> as it like the tz is being applied twice
[11:45] <bullgard4> !ask | Alinn
[11:46] <rileyp> Alinn apt-get -f install forces the install so this is what breaks things
[11:46] <Alinn> bullgard4: :-ٓ
[11:46] <szal> Alinn: you might wanna add the exact command you typed to get that output
[11:46] <Belias> I do 3D Graphics
[11:46] <Belias> http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g16/431216/431216_1307232021_large.jpg
[11:46] <Belias> what do you think?
[11:46] <nykur> bullgard4: Yeah, seems nobody is, hence me asking where to direct questions. Maybe someone will pop up, surely I'm not the only one trying to run it on a netbook, which I seem to recall being where it was first introduced.
[11:47] <ceza> wow
[11:47] <ceza> linux
[11:47] <rileyp> Bellas sweet!
[11:47] <Belias> rileyp: =] tnx
[11:47] <Belias> rileyp: i want to find a job, how?
[11:48] <rileyp> Belias:  now to automate and score Goal!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:48] <Belias> ?
[11:48] <megabraker> Alinn nothing will be removed it only wont be necessary to make apps work so when an app need it it will automaticly use it just type Y
[11:48] <szal> Belias: at least not here, this is #ubuntu support, not a job fair ;)
[11:49] <Alinn> megabraker: rileyp: szal:  Thanks a lot :)
[11:50] <arun_mittal> somehow i have crashed my system, and now i am logged in using live cd, when i do cd /mdeia/cdrom/, and then ls, iam not getting any listing, am i doing somthing wrong
[11:51] <traubisoda> i beg you to help me:  ubuntu 11.04, Nvidia 9600 GT, 1440x900 resolution don't fit in my screen, i cannot generate a new xorg.conf, restricted drivers are installed. what should i do?
[11:51] <jrib> !fixres | traubisoda
[11:51] <rileyp>  i cannot generate a new xorg.conf  lol why not
[11:52] <RevSpecies116> nykur: #ayatana
[11:52] <nykur> If someone here is actually using Unity and could help me with my global menu issues, that would be much appreciated:-)
[11:52] <RevSpecies116> nykur: That channel will specifically help with Unity issues
[11:52] <nykur> RevSpecies116: Many thanks!
[11:52] <traubisoda> rileyp the usual command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' won't do anything
[11:52] <nykur> Will join and test my luck:-)
[11:52] <RevSpecies116> But, nykur, the solution will not be instantaneous
[11:53] <nykur> RevSpecies116: I know, probably not. Unless I'm very lucky;-)
[11:53] <rileyp> traubisoda:  with nvidia installed one uses sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:53] <RevSpecies116> And may have you raising a few bug reports in Launchpad - but that channel WILL help you directly with Unity design issues
[11:53] <hiptobecubic> How can I superficially block some domain? So that going to, say, www.google.com just redirects to a broken page? Has to live through reboot / network-manager reconnect of course.
[11:54] <traubisoda> rileyp thanks i give it a try
[11:54] <balex> \quit
[11:54] <hiptobecubic> it's fine if the user can just type in the IP, it's not meant to be "secure"
[11:54] <jrib> hiptobecubic: easiest way is to use /etc/hosts
[11:54] <ceza> domwnwory about sure
[11:54] <bullgard4> '~$ apt-get update; E: Encountered a section with no Package: header' How can I fix this?
[11:55] <nykur> RevSpecies116: Like I said yesterday, I wouldn't consider this a bug, unless there really isn't a way around it.
[11:55] <wym> exit
[11:56] <nykur> But if it is truly a bug, I don't mind raising it in launchpad and wait.
[11:56] <RevSpecies116> nykur, Jono Bacon would disagree :) Speaking of Jono, #ubuntu-desktop is also a channel that will help with Unity design flaws and issues :)
[11:56] <pfifo> bacon!
[11:56] <p3rror> hello
[11:56] <p3rror> i've no sound
[11:56] <p3rror> in video flash
[11:56] <p3rror> using firefox
[11:56] <p3rror> when i checl /dev
[11:57] <p3rror> i can not find dsp
[11:57] <FloodBot1> p3rror: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <rileyp> p3rror hdmi sound?
[11:57] <p3rror> what is it hdmi ?
[11:58] <rileyp> lol
[11:58] <RevSpecies116> hiptobecubic: That /etc/hosts method described is the EASIEST way - so simple, and I don't think restarts are required :)
[11:58] <szal> rileyp: are you confusing something here? ;)
[11:58] <p3rror> rileyp, i've sound using desktop application as vlc
[11:58] <nykur> RevSpecies116: If this is really a design flaw, I'll be sure to tell mr. Bacon about it. But I just don't feel comfortable raising bug reports on software I don't know very well and haven't tested extensively. But thanks for redirecting me, and I'll see what they say.
[11:59] <RevSpecies116> hiptobecubic: All the way back from 2004, and still good for today :) :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3407
[11:59] <hiptobecubic> RevSpecies116, yeah that's what i was looking for, thanks.
[11:59] <rileyp> p3rror:  sound is connected via small audio plug to speakers?
[11:59] <delinquentme> hey all so im messing around with some JSON http://pastie.org/2034822  in this pastie i've stepped through the items im after in the top part .. the content of the "title" field .. however when i go to make a loop to get the titles .. im not getting the output im after.. basically i get the entirety of the json printed back with the loop statement on  the "problem"  heading
[11:59] <p3rror> rileyp, i don't have simply sound in flash video
[11:59] <delinquentme> so how do i update my loop statement to only return the "titles"
[12:00] <p3rror> rileyp, using firefox
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> Jono is a great guy, and even if you think it is a ;silly' question - Jono will do ALL he can to help :) And he is near the top of the Canonical food chain, too :)
[12:00] <rileyp> p3 so sound works only in things you have set an audio device in such as vlc?
[12:00] <rileyp> or do desktop sounds work
[12:00] <p3rror> rileyp, yep with vlc it's worked
[12:00] <rileyp> or do desktop sounds work
[12:00] <ceza> gnome
[12:01] <ceza> bush ,bush ,bus
[12:01] <wym> ....
[12:02] <rileyp> p3rror:  often sounds dont work in flash as no default audio device has been selected or your current default device is not the one you wish to use
[12:02] <ceza> hiponapticteria
[12:03] <nykur> RevSpecies116: I know, he's a household name in these parts, as he should. If my issue will help further Unity, I'll be glad to have helped... a little :-)
[12:03] <rileyp> this can be fixed by creating a small file called ~/.asound.rc
[12:03] <RevSpecies116> nykur, and I will thank you also - I want Unity to be perfect when 12.04LTS comes around :)
[12:03] <ceza> gnome , linux ,int
[12:04] <RevSpecies116> And if by you raising this Unity issue helps me out with 12.04LTS, I'll by you a beer if we meet :)
[12:04] <migunite> who said that?
[12:04] <rileyp> p3rror:  http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
[12:05] <willemb> Hi.  I suddenly have no sound in ubuntu :-( .  I just rebooted after about 3 weeks of uptime.  I am convinced there were some upgrades in the mean time, and one of it could have broken it for me.  gnome-volume-control has no devices in the hardware tab any more...
[12:05] <ceza> hahahaahaha... spit fire
[12:05] <willemb> 10.04
[12:05] <rileyp> willemb aplay -l
[12:05] <ceza> same
[12:06] <ceza> no up date
[12:06] <willemb> rileyp: It sees VT82xx device 0 and device 1
[12:06] <rileyp> open alsamixer and make sure its not muted
[12:07] <rileyp> willemb: open alsamixer and make sure its not muted
[12:07] <nykur> RevSpecies116: Hehe thanks! I'm all for making things move forward, and who knows if Unity WILL be perfect, I just might add it to my main Debian box, in due time:-) But for now I'm rather pleased with it on my netbook, apart from this little annoyance. But of course we don't settle for less than perfect, then we might as well run... (finish this sentence silently;-)
[12:07] <willemb> rileyp: how would that fix 'there is no hardware listed in the hardware tab' ?
[12:08] <willemb> rileyp: unsurprising, that is not the problem, only 'beep' is muted
[12:08] <rileyp> willemb: It sees VT82xx device 0 and device 1 so you have audio devices
[12:08] <RevSpecies116>  ;)
[12:08] <rileyp> willemb:  can you select a device in alsamixer
[12:09] <minsik> Ubuntu Natty, the time that empathy shows new chat is too long...
[12:09] <myspace> hi.
[12:09] <rileyp> myspace:  hi
[12:09] <myspace> give me a pointer here.
[12:10] <RevSpecies116> myspace, how can we help?
[12:10] <szal> ↓↑→← pick one ;)
[12:10] <rileyp> myspace:  faster please this is fast channel
[12:11] <myspace> RevSpecies116: you can start by cleaning the laundry and doing some clothes.
[12:11] <rileyp> myspace:  to slow already done and garbage is out and cat as well got your nightie on?
[12:12] <Co_H> Hi, I wanted to send Gparted to friend using ubuntu Karmic, but without any net connection.
[12:12] <ceza> hahahaha..so you no that
[12:12] <Co_H> How do I do thta?
[12:12] <myspace> garbage huh.
[12:12] <Co_H> *that*
[12:12] <traubisoda> i just can't understand why 1440x900 can't fit in my screen
[12:12] <trap24> i desperately want to increase my "history" command in terminal  so that it can store at least 10,000 previously typed command
[12:12] <willemb> rileyp: yes, the HDA VIA VT82xx is selected
[12:12] <trap24> its the most useful tool ever invented with grep
[12:12] <Co_H> Is it possible
[12:12] <szal> Co_H: huh?
[12:12] <trap24> for learners :)
[12:12] <trap24> please, i desperately want to increase my "history" command in terminal  so that it can store at least 10,000 previously typed command
[12:12] <szal> Co_H: other than that, Karmic is not supported any longer
[12:13] <RevSpecies116> Thanks rileyp :) Let's see what we can do for myspace in regards to an Ubuntu problem it is having... If it tells us what the Ubuntu problem actually is... :)
[12:13] <Co_H> szal: May be not, but is there any way to install that software without net connection
[12:13] <myspace> i haven't updated in a while RevSpecies116.  i'm afraid level 3 will ruin it.
[12:13] <rileyp> traubisoda: i just can't understand why 1440x900 can't fit in my screen perhaps it doesny get a ruler and measure up and see if the raito is correct
[12:13] <RevSpecies116> Level 3, myspace?
[12:13] <szal> Co_H: get this person a GParted live CD
[12:14] <rileyp> willemb: rileyp: yes, the HDA VIA VT82xx is selected so your using optical?
[12:14] <traubisoda> rileyp how can i check it? i thing every setting is correct as far i can see
[12:14] <traubisoda> think*
[12:15] <cjuner> Hi there. I have recently upgraded to natty and now sometimes (every third boot or so) plymouth tells me "Waiting for /home". /home is on a separate partition (on LVM). I can run a maintenance shell and mounting it manually works fine, after which the boot continues normally. What is the cause of this and how to prevent this? It's really annoying.
[12:15] <rileyp> traus measure screen and check ratio if the ratio is diffrent 1400 x 900 aint ver going to fit
[12:15] <willemb> rileyp: no, analogue
[12:15] <Co_H> szal: Well, I thought it would be awesome if that could be done from ubuntu itself
[12:16] <Co_H> Anyways thanks
[12:16] <rileyp> willemb isnt HDA high def audio meaning optical
[12:16] <traubisoda> rileyp on previous ubuntu versions it wasn't a problem, neither on kubuntu 11.04
[12:16] <willemb> aplay -l returns:
[12:16] <Gruenkohl> who knows a solution for my sound-problem (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/621653/)?
[12:16] <willemb> card 0: VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 0: ALC861-VD Analog [ALC861-VD Analog]
[12:17] <willemb> and a digital equivalent
[12:17] <szal> Co_H: then get that machine hooked up on the 'net & upgrade it to Lucid or newer, then you'll be able to install gparted fine
[12:17] <willemb> however, the gnome-volume-control tool returns only a null driver
[12:17] <traubisoda> rileyp what i strange, that in the monitor section the resolution is 1440x900, but in nvidia conf there is no option for 1400x900
[12:17] <ceza> your frien on bord
[12:17] <willemb> sorry, an emptry list, but the pulseaudio one returns null
[12:17] <myspace> szal: where'd you get that from?  Lucid?
[12:17] <traubisoda> rileyp however i added in xorg.conf
[12:17] <cjuner> If I want to report a bug regarding this - for which package should I report this?
[12:17] <ceza> no have
[12:17] <rileyp> willemb I dont know much about audio perhaps the alsa channel?
[12:17] <trap24> trap24: checkout ~/.bashrc, it has this limit setting in HISTSIZE=1000, change it & remember to change the file size as well ;)
[12:18] <ceza> cnayang land
[12:18] <trap24> trap24: thanks, a lot trap24 :))
[12:18] <Co_H> szal: Well its not just about upgrading Ubuntu. Its just that he doesn't have access to net via PC, but only via mobile
[12:19] <moneedhelp> hello, sorry I am new since today with xubuntu and I need some help with my display, does anyone could help me ? it's 3hours I try to fix it but noway :-(
[12:20] <RevSpecies116> Co_H: The gparted liveCD is quite small
[12:20] <RevSpecies116> You could download and burn it for your friend, and post it to him/her
[12:20] <Co_H> RevSpecies116: ok
[12:21] <rileyp> moneedhelp: fire away
[12:21] <Co_H> Just curious, is there anyway a person without net access can install a software?
[12:21] <willemb> fixed, thanks
[12:21] <RevSpecies116> Co_H: About 133MB
[12:22] <Co_H> RevSpecies116: Yes, I am downloading it atm
[12:22] <RevSpecies116> Yes, Co_H - through friends like you
[12:22] <moneedhelp> hello, sorry I am new since today with xubuntu and I need some help with my display, does anyone could help me ? it's 3hours I try to fix it but noway :-(
[12:22] <willemb> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-470047.html , if anyone cares
[12:22] <tdn> I have an image of a (mac) disk that uses GPT. How do I mount one of the partions on this? I have installed gdisk and can list the partitions on the image. I would actually like to extract an image of one of the partitions. How to do that?
[12:22] <arun_mittal> hey guys i just booted with 11.04 , but when i try to access my previous os home account it gives me "Access-Your_private-data.desktop" ,when i click on it , untrusted dialog box appers.
[12:23] <arun_mittal> how can i access my home account with live cd (11.04)
[12:23] <RevSpecies116> neat, willemb :)
[12:23] <clakes> mocp play
[12:24] <clakes> whoopsie
[12:24] <rileyp> willemb: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[12:25] <vanelle> hello
[12:25] <moneedhelp> I need help !
[12:25] <moneedhelp> please
[12:25] <rileyp> willemb:  use that and link back please you will then get help
[12:25] <vanelle> is there a way to know whats happening under the hood when I press the FN+brightness up/down etc keys??
[12:25] <rileyp> willemb: perhaps lodge a bug
[12:27] <RevSpecies116> arun_mittal: Your /home encrypted?
[12:27] <arun_mittal> RevSpecies116, yes
[12:27] <hellyeah> hey
[12:27] <hellyeah> is there someone who uses sound-juicer
[12:27] <RevSpecies116> That would be your issue, then, arun
[12:27] <RevSpecies116> That would be your issue, then, arun_mittal  - sorry
[12:28] <Dummy> question: trying to update ubuntu in update manager via wireless, but window hangs at "waiting for jockey_backend to exit..." what does this mean? thanks!
[12:28] <arun_mittal> RevSpecies116,  i have not encrypted home, when i insert live Cd it gets encrypted
[12:28] <szal> lol
[12:29] <RevSpecies116> even when you goto it in nautilus? ie '/home/yourusername/.desktop/' ?
[12:29] <migunite> szal: sorry... that must've been a header file.
[12:29] <szal> migunite: ?
[12:30] <bullgard4> '~$ apt-get update; E: Encountered a section with no Package: header' How can I fix this?
[12:31] <RevSpecies116> even when you goto it in nautilus, arun_mittal ? ie '/home/yourusername/.desktop/' ?
[12:32] <RevSpecies116> even when you goto it in nautilus, arun_mittal ? ie '/home/yourusername/Desktop/' ? [sorry, got the first one wrong]
[12:32] <bullgard4> hellyeah: I have been using sound-juicer.
[12:32] <hellyeah> i got an error
[12:32] <kannan> beagle not indexing my evolutiion emails...
[12:33] <hellyeah> which says failed to create outpğut directory access denied
[12:33] <hellyeah> what can i do for that
[12:33] <migunite> show me!!!
[12:34] <szal> hellyeah: doing what?
[12:34] <bullgard4> hellyeah: In one of the menus you can set the name of a target directory. May be you have stated a path that does not exist.
[12:34] <hellyeah> there is no menu in sound-juicer
[12:35] <hellyeah> szal,  extracting audio cd to mp3
[12:35] <Dummy> hi! question: trying to update ubuntu in update manager via wireless, but window hangs at "waiting for jockey_backend to exit..." what does this mean? thanks!
[12:35] <paraf_> wedqerewrf
[12:35] <szal> paraf_: please clean your keyboard outside of this channel
[12:35] <hellyeah> ops sorry
[12:35] <kannan> beagle not indexing my evolution emails.. what i should do to make it work?
[12:36] <cjuner> Hi there. I have recently upgraded to natty and now sometimes (every third boot or so) plymouth tells me "Waiting for /home". /home is on a separate partition (on LVM). I can run a maintenance shell and mounting it manually works fine, after which the boot continues normally. What is the cause of this and how to prevent this? It's really annoying.
[12:36] <bullgard4> hellyeah: There is.
[12:36] <migunite> Dummy: you must have guts.
[12:36] <auk> i'm trying to get virtualization working on ubuntu 11.04, i ran the egrep command that's supposed to say if your cpu supports hardware virtualization...
[12:36] <Dummy> pardon?
[12:36] <szal> migunite: stop making senseless comments please
[12:36] <migunite> i'm being humble.
[12:37] <auk> it showed nothing, indication that my cpu doesn't. where do i go from here? the tutorial says to "stop here"
[12:37] <migunite> talk to the hand szal.
[12:37] <tdn> I have an image of a (mac) disk that uses GPT. How do I mount one of the partions on this? I have installed gdisk and can list the partitions on the image. I would actually like to extract an image of one of the partitions. How to do that?
[12:37] <auk> (but i can get software virtualization working anyway no?)
[12:38] <kenty22> please help, when I login the screen blinks black, and then reverts back to login screen. I have tried to xorg fixes, but none of them worked. I even pasted X11 folder from a working install of the same version of ubuntu, and it is still happening. Ubuntu 10.04.   in tty7 console it also shows "Home directory /etc/timidity not ours"
[12:38] <szal> auk: use VirtualBox ;)
[12:39] <migunite> ubuntu could be useless for so many reasons.
[12:39] <szal> kenty22: look for errors ("(EE)") in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and/or the logfile for your display manager
[12:39] <RevSpecies116> Fortunately, Ubuntu is FAR from useless, migunite
[12:40] <kenty22> szal:  there are none
[12:40] <szal> kenty22: you gotta be kidding
[12:40] <kenty22> szal:  nope, I tried it, and there are no errors whatsoever, the file iss not even updated
[12:40] <szal> kenty22: ah, that you mean
[12:41] <kenty22> szal:  I.e.  deleted all of the contents of the log file, and did the same attempt again, and the logfile is still empty
[12:41] <linux4ever> Hi
[12:41] <migunite> RevSpecies116: i get the point that there apps and programs but none to pick.
[12:41] <auk> szal, thanks downloading now
[12:42] <kenty22> szal: I also tried purging nvidia and installing it afreash, but I am not sure if that worked
[12:42] <linux4ever> I have a probelm with the power management of my Dell Studio 17". More informations here (translated from the German forum): http://is.gd/AR902f
[12:42] <linux4ever> Would be great, if someone coul help me.
[12:42] <szal> kenty22: did you run nvidia-xconfig after installing driver and before rebooting?
[12:43] <kenty22> szal: I did try that, it doesnt chang anything, although it does create xorg.conf file
[12:43] <kenty22> szal: as I said before, I made a separate 10.04 install on the same computer on a different partition, and copied the whole X11 folder
[12:43] <arun_mittal> i have a .Private directory set at my home. How can i access that my home directory ??
[12:43] <kenty22> szal: with no effect, the freshly installed 10.04 works, but the old 10.04 doesnt
[12:44] <RevSpecies116> Do you have an Ubuntu support issue we can help you with, migunite?
[12:44] <RevSpecies116> even when you goto it in nautilus, arun_mittal ? ie '/home/yourusername/Desktop/' ? [sorry, got the first one wrong]
[12:44] <migunite> lame.
[12:45] <arun_mittal> RevSpecies116, yes
[12:45] <RevSpecies116> I can't help you with MP3 encoding, migunite - perhaps you need another channel for that!
[12:45] <__goo__> Hi, I am running ubuntu 10.10 , and suddenly on rebooting i get an initramfs prompt - the partition is also no mounting on another OS - what can I do??
[12:46] <szal> RevSpecies116: obviously he doesn't and just issues random comments
[12:46] <bullgard4> linux4ever: 1.) Read 'man s2disk', in particular »resume«.
[12:46] <kenty22> szal: anything else  i could do?
[12:46] <szal> __goo__: please be as specific as possible
[12:46] <RevSpecies116> szal, most likely migunite is a prankster, and really needs to leave the channel
[12:47] <linux4ever> bullgard4: What? *confused*
[12:48] <__goo__> szal: when ubuntu loads, it shows as "Busy Box v x.x" and I get an initramfs prompt instead of loading the X server
[12:49] <x_> adax
[12:49] <bullgard4> linux4ever: 2.) Analyze /var/log/pm-powersave.log and  /var/log/pm-powersave.log.1 .
[12:49] <x_> hi
[12:49] <auk> hmm... i think i misunderstand what virtualization can serve as.... i want to boot an already-installed operating system (fedora 15 64bit, on the same drive as ubuntu) within ubuntu... as opposed to install fedora into the virtualization sandbox
[12:49] <auk> is this possible?
[12:49] <bullgard4> linux4ever: You should tell me precisely why you are confused.
[12:53] <jburkholder> anyone awake?
[12:53] <bullgard4> __go__ Why should "the partition mount on another OS"?
[12:53] <migunite> jburkholder: i am.
[12:54] <migunite> heh.
[12:54] <jburkholder> do you need help with your ubuntu?
[12:54] <bullgard4> '~$ apt-get update; E: Encountered a section with no Package: header' How can I fix this?
[12:55] <migunite> aww... the blues.
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:56] <BlessJah> i have run out of space on my home, but i've created bigger partition
[12:56] <szal> bullgard4: tried "apt-get -f update"?
[12:56] <BlessJah> how can i copy whole /home/* with preserving owners mods etc etc?
[12:56] <llutz> bullgard4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863742&page=5  might help
[12:56] <Ileden> Hi! I'm installing Ubuntu as dualboot on a new computer. I decided to partition manually, and stared by reducing the 300GB ntfs partition down to 75. However, as I confirmed this action, I now only get a system "stuck" at busy (for like 15 mins already). How long should this operation take? Should there be a progress bar (that is, is the system really stuck)?
[12:57] <Guest10220> Can I get a list of installed packages on my system sorted by size? (btw I need to do this via ssh)
[12:57] <mib3716> BlessJah: cp -a ...
[12:57] <szal> Ileden: shrinking filesystems takes a looooooooooooooooong time..  and success isn't guaranteed
[12:57] <Ileden> .... right, never mind. it just completed :D
[12:57] <BlessJah> mib3716: thanks
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Ileden, resizing partitions can take hrs , dependong on how much data has tobe moved and the size difference
[12:58] <Ileden> a progress bar would've been veruy nice. :/
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Ileden, that's why I use gparted livecd as my partition editor
[12:59] <matt2s> The Unity Dock, the new thing with all the shortcuts on it, is not hiding any more. How can I get it to hide?
[12:59] <Ileden> BluesKaj: yeah retrospectively that woudld've been a good idea.
[12:59] <bullgard4> szal: I just tried "apt-get -f update". No change.
[13:00] <Ileden> BluesKaj: how does this one with the installer work with logical partitions? Do i first create a logical container, and then partitions inside it?
[13:00] <auk> matt2s, you'll find a setting in the Ubuntu Unity Plugin entry in the compizconfig editor
[13:00] <matt2s> auk: It is set to autohide
[13:00] <hungryhubby> apt-get install -f
[13:01] <matt2s> auk: It just happens randomly. Right now it went away again, but after 4+ hours of staying on top of everything
[13:01] <llutz> bullgard4: just remove all lists, and get them new using "sudo apt-get update"
[13:01] <auk> matt2s, ouch i have never encountered that problem sorry
[13:01] <matt2s> auk: thanks for trying!
[13:01] <bullgard4> llutz: What lists do you speak about?
[13:02] <llutz> bullgard4: /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[13:02] <gnaruag> all of my system ports are closed ,  transmission is not able to download , how to open the ports ?
[13:02] <Ileden> How much is enough for space for a swap partition these days?
[13:02] <gnaruag> Ileden, double the RAM
[13:02] <gnaruag> size
[13:02] <migunite> how do i find out the size of my partitions?
[13:02] <szal> Ileden: depends on whether you suspend-to-disk or not
[13:03] <gnaruag> migunite, download G-parted
[13:03] <hungryhubby> migunite: fdisk -h
[13:03] <szal> migunite: df -h
[13:03] <hungryhubby> migunite: fdisk -h /dev/sda
[13:03] <bullgard4> llutz: And your recipe "just remove all lists /var/lib/apt/lists/* " is not dangerous?
[13:03] <gnaruag> all of my system ports are closed ,  transmission is not able to download , how to open the ports ?
[13:03] <szal> Ileden: but in general, 1.5-2 times your installed RAM size should do
[13:03] <llutz> bullgard4: to be on the safe side, back them up before
[13:04] <szal> isn't there an "apt-clean" command or something?
[13:04] <Ileden> szal, gnaruag: ok, thanks.
[13:04] <gnaruag> :)
[13:04] <gnaruag> anybody help !
[13:04] <szal> Ileden: if you're absolutely sure you'll never suspend, you can even do without swap
[13:05] <migunite> i'm amazed.
[13:05] <linux4ever> bullgard4: brb
[13:05] <szal> Ileden: though that's not exactly recommended ;)
[13:05] <hungryhubby> yeah right its df -h shows you mounted volumes space
[13:05] <sipior> szal: that's inadvisable, as you'll end up wasting ram on memory reservations that aren't actually used.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Ileden, I beleive the partitioner determines the logical partitions within a primary depending on the the use ,for / and /home and swap for example
[13:05] <Ileden> .... uh, and what on earth should I do when "create partition" dialog just hangs? buttons don't do anything anymore...
[13:06] <spass> Ileden: make a coffe
[13:06] <sdf_scp> Hello, i'm a new ubuntu user, and i have a problem with the program winscp. i can't rewrite a file oder copy a new file onto the ubuntu desktop from my windows pc. what should i do? i login with the admin account (and yes, in the ubuntu he's in the admin-group.
[13:06] <Ileden> spass: haha, no, there is no operation being run right now. and no disk activity.
[13:07] <spass> sdf_scp: check if that user has permission to do that
[13:07] <Ileden> erp. partitioning is NOT a good time for the system to become unresponsive.
[13:07] <Nitration> when i try to transfer a song from rhythmbox to my ipod it says Error cannot right resource:
[13:07] <sdf_scp> @spass how can i check this?
[13:07] <hotmedal> Halp: If the notebook's wireless button is off before Ubuntu starts, it hangs during startup. Starts fine if I choose the older kernel from grub, but the wireless doesn't work then.
[13:07] <Nitration> anyone know how to fix tht
[13:08] <hotmedal> sudo rhythmbox?
[13:08] <rubik> hello
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> hotmedal:  see if you can write anything to the ipod.. it may be mounted read only, or just with wrong permissions
[13:08] <Ileden> Damn. I can move windows around, resize, switch focus. but nothing happens from the buttons! I didn't even click on anything, it just happened...
[13:08] <spass> sdf_scp: admin group or not, it's some user's home directory. Log in with this users login:password to winscp and then try.
[13:09] <hotmedal> Dr_Willis : wrong guy, I asked a different question
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Ileden, it could be reading the partition data to determine where to place the data that's to be moved ...partitioning is indeed a slow process
[13:09] <sdf_scp> i login with the administrator account, and this account is in the root-group
[13:09] <Ileden> BluesKaj: no, the move operation was completed already.
[13:09] <tolmun> Searching PPA for vim 7.3 on 10.04 with all features?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> tolmun:  theres a ppa search tool  I recall. but not used in some time.
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> !info ppasearch
[13:10] <Ileden> BluesKaj: and I already created two new partitions into that space (/ and /home). but trying to create a third for swap, the system just hanged into the dialog!
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> may not be in the default repos :(
[13:10] <spass> sdf_scp: admin:root ?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> then it's busy setting up the resize , Ileden ..it also takes time
[13:10] <coz_> tolmun,   its calle   y-ppa-manager
[13:11] <coz_> tolmun,     https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/y-ppa-manager
[13:11] <Ileden> BluesKaj: no, I don't think so. there's no hd activity, and i already completed some operations after the long resize.
[13:12] <Ileden> augh, I guess I'll just reboot and hope the partition table is intact. well it's a new computer anyway, so not that much loss in case of failure...
[13:12] <sdf_scp> @spass yes, or shoul i change it back to administrators group?
[13:13] <spass> i guess only root:root or owner of this home directory would have enough perms.
[13:13] <Ileden> phew at least the power button managed to force a soft shutdown...
[13:14] <spass> Ileden: you would drink this coffe by now :)
[13:14] <sdf_scp> @spass i have no root account
[13:14] <spass> you have... just no password on it i guess
[13:14] <spass> for security reasons
[13:15] <barberan> =)
[13:15] <sdf_scp> but when i look in the usermanagmeent, there is no root account
[13:15] <Ileden> spass: ha, im already jittery enough because of these partitioning troubles...
[13:15] <spass> sdf_scp: check /etc/passwd file
[13:15] <hotmedal> Halp: If the notebook's wireless button is off before Ubuntu starts, it hangs during startup. Starts fine if I choose the older kernel from grub, but the wireless doesn't work then.
[13:15] <hotmedal> ... any takers?
[13:15] <hotmedal> takers*
[13:15] <hotmedal> ...
[13:15] <tolmun> Upgrading vim to latest release. The only way is buld from source?
[13:16] <sipior> tolmun: that's easiest, if you really need the latest version
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> tolmun:  someone proberly has a ppa for it. or you could use source. shouldent be too hard to compile
[13:16] <sdf_scp> @spass: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get build-dep vim (to pull in all needed dev dependencies)
[13:16] <spass> sdf_scp: see :)
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> get source, compuile it :)
[13:16] <szal> who the frigg invented that word "halp"..  it hurts my eyes everytime I see it..
[13:17] <sdf_scp> how can i generate a password for the root acc?
[13:17] <hotmedal> lol Help me then
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> sdf_scp:  normally you just use sudo as needed to get root access. You dont directly login as root.
[13:17] <bullgard4> llutz: Your recipe "just remove all lists /var/lib/apt/lists/* " worked: I have no longer error messages with apt-get update, Synaptic and Update Manager. --  Thank you! --  Where did you know from that this would help?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> I thought he was talking to someone named 'Halp'
[13:17] <llutz> bullgard4: [13:56:56] <llutz> bullgard4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863742&page=5  might help
[13:17] <szal> lol
[13:17] <hotmedal> ahahaha
[13:17] <zouhair> Hi, each time I do an upgrade, aptitude tells me about the same RECOMMENDED package again and again, how to tell it that I will NEVER install that particular package?
[13:18] <szal> zouhair: aptitude install -R
[13:18] <szal> or even aptitude upgrade -R
[13:19] <tolmun> if exsist than i take the KISS way to upgrade
[13:19] <zouhair> szal: hmm, actually no, I want aptitude to recommend me packages just not that one that keeps poping every time
[13:20] <szal> zouhair: it does recommend you pkgs w/ that switch but doesn't install them automatically
[13:20] <zouhair> No HOLD option for recommended packages?
[13:20] <zouhair> szal: the recommend doesn't install them
[13:21] <zouhair> just tells you they are recommended
[13:21] <szal> then what gives?
[13:22] <szal> !pm | zouhair
[13:22] <zouhair> didn't want to spam
[13:22] <szal> !paste | zouhair
[13:22] <BluesKaj> zouhair, then copy and paste the recommended app  titles and install them
[13:23] <zouhair> http://paste.ubuntu.com/621716/
[13:23] <zouhair> I will never install chromium-browser-l10n
[13:23] <zouhair> how to tell aptitude that I will never do and to stop recommending it
[13:23] <hotmedal> will I get an answer if I ask my question again? ^^
[13:23] <BluesKaj> never say never , zouhair
[13:24] <llutz> zouhair: its not aptitude recommending it, its the package
[13:24] <zouhair> BluesKaj: :) sure but sometimes you can say never
[13:24] <BluesKaj> hotmedal, depends on the question
[13:24] <llutz> zouhair: you want to read about debs and how depends/recommends are configured
[13:24] <hotmedal> Halp: If the notebook's wireless button is off before Ubuntu starts, it hangs during startup. Starts fine if I choose the older kernel from grub, but the wireless doesn't work then.
[13:25] <thebastl> oi anyone in here knows if there is already something for evolution that makes use of the new google tasks api so that i can have my google tasks in evolution?
[13:25] <zouhair> llutz: so It'll keep on bugging me everytime I do an upgrade??
[13:25] <hotmedal> *Help: If the notebook's wireless button is off before Ubuntu starts, it hangs during startup. Starts fine if I choose the older kernel from grub, but the wireless doesn't work then.
[13:25] <llutz> zouhair: its just an info, ignore it
[13:25] <zouhair> :)
[13:26] <BluesKaj> !repeat | hotmedal
[13:27] <cjuner> Hi there. I have recently upgraded to natty and now sometimes (every third boot or so) plymouth tells me "Waiting for /home". /home is on a separate partition (on LVM). I can run a maintenance shell and mounting it manually works fine, after which the boot continues normally. What is the cause of this and how to prevent this? It's really annoying.
[13:27] <ImDexter> Lately, I havent been able to turn ubuntu 11.04 off, I click the switch off icon, the screen shows me some logs of what its urning off (no spalsh screen), but there is a process, I dont remember which one, thaqt just wont stop, forcing me tpo manually disconnect the power cable
[13:29] <Fudge> hey guys, is it possible to have the restart session control + alt + bkspace to work in gdm
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> Fudge:  yes. Its a X setting some where.. i forget :)
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> !dontzap
[13:30] <Fudge> hopefully it works for gdm, tks
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> it works for X.. and GDM runs in X. :)
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> You just need to enable it 'systemwide' i imagine, or for teh GDM user.
[13:31]  * Fudge nods :)
[13:31] <llutz> Fudge: alternative: alt-sysrq-k    should work
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Some of those combos can be hard on a laptop keyboard.
[13:31] <osmosis_paul> Hi, somebody if it is possible with arno firewall specify that only one specific ip has ssh access
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> osmosis_paul:  i do belive the ssh config files can have a 'only allow one ip' settings.. should be doable with a  firewall rules also.
[13:32] <jimz> hi
[13:33] <osmosis_paul> Dr_Willis, yeah well it is not just ip actually are 3
[13:33] <llutz> osmosis_paul: /etc/hosts.allow    "sshd: ip.you.want.to : allow"
[13:33] <llutz> osmosis_paul: "sshd: ALL : deny"
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> osmosis_paul:  ssh configs have it. :)
[13:33] <llutz> osmosis_paul: be carefull, easy to lock you out
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> isent hosts.allow and hosts.deny a little old-skool? i was thinking of the ssh configs specifically.
[13:34] <bullgard4> llutz: Thank you again for your help.
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> specifically having an allow ip/ignore io settings.
[13:36] <tyler_d> when I run gnome-volume-control it comes up and says its waiting for sound system to respond... I am using alsa
[13:36] <llutz> Dr_Willis: sshd_conf:  AllowHost/DenyHost you mean?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  yea. i just recall reading those settings files once ages ago. and the oreally book on ssh.
[13:37] <szal> O'Really? :o
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> O-rly! :)
[13:38] <llutz> really riley
[13:38] <osmosis_paul> llutz, so do you think my host.allow would be well done like that? http://pastecode.org/index.php/view/36694118
[13:38] <llutz> osmosis_paul: yes
[13:38] <osmosis_paul> llutz, i dont want fuck up and break all ssh access into system
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> do it from a local box. and test it first. :)
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> or ssh in, do the changes, keep that session going. and then test it..
[13:39] <llutz> osmosis_paul: for testing, setup a cron-job resetting hosts.allow after 15 Minutes.
[13:39] <sipior> osmosis_paul: or just ensure that you have a ssh connection open to the test host at all times...
[13:39] <bullgard4> linux4ever: Did you understand what I wrote to you?
[13:39] <llutz> osmosis_paul: just don't forget to remove it, if files work
[13:39] <osmosis_paul> llutz, good idea
[13:43] <valleydaddy78> i have a problem that not only wont let me update but also wont allow me to install other things
[13:43] <valleydaddy78> i do not have pastebin and cant install it
[13:43] <valleydaddy78> i need to get this solved please help
[13:44] <szal> and the problem is?
[13:47] <ixi> hello
[13:47] <ixi> anyone know how to hide mysqld version revealed by nmap (-sV option)?
[13:48] <ixi> output is like "mysql 5.1.54-1ubuntu4"
[13:48] <ixi> id like to get only "mysql" there
[13:49] <gohdan> hello gang, i have logged in locally via 'su -l foo' and am trying to have xeyes run in my X session as user 'foo'. when i execute xeyes the shell complains with the following: "No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0.0"
[13:50] <rezuz> salut
[13:51] <faLUCE>  hi. I have a continous bytestream which I capture with curl http://mystream. Sometime, the stream has this sequence of characters: "rrrr" . How can I catch it? If I use:  curl http://mystream | grep "rrrr" it doesn't work, since grep expects a newline, but the bytestream doesn't have newlines.....
[13:52] <valleydaddy78> i have a merglist parding problem can anyone help
[13:52] <gohdan> i have 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' and even tried  'DISPLAY=:0.0 xeyes' to no avail. any help or tips would be most appreciated
[13:52] <valleydaddy78> merglist parsing
[13:53] <cba123> Whenever I hit tab on 11.04, I have to manually correct auto-completion with spaces when launching custom scripts.  On 10.10, I didn't.  Example, if I hit tab with "sh foo" I get "sh foo bar" not "sh foo\ bar" any ideas how I can fix that?
[13:53] <cablop> i had to move my computer parts to a different board, now, it is not recognizing my graphic card, but it is the same card... i lost effects, what can i do?
[13:53] <szal> valleydaddy78: [14:44:15] <szal> and the problem is?
[13:53] <szal> !pm | valleydaddy78
[13:54] <Xano> I'm trying to VNC into my 11.04 box from a Leopard machine. Even though the Ubuntu box appears in JollysFastVNC and Finder on my Mac, it seems unable to connect
[13:54] <Xano> I tried Ubuntu's built-in Remote Desktop and x11vnc, but neither worked
[13:54] <valleydaddy78> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists
[13:54] <riktking> Xano: have you set it up to auto accept connections
[13:55] <Xano> I'm not really sure if I can give you any more info. Just ask
[13:55] <Xano> riktking: let me check
[13:55] <valleydaddy78> us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[13:55] <Guest21320> Yesterday I accidentally hit the Touchpad Off button, and then I turned the touchpad back on and it was acting strange (moved slow and choppy) so I rebooted, and now it doesn't work at all, but it works in Windows.  Help!
[13:56] <riktking> Xano: also check if you need to enter a password
[13:57] <Xano> riktking: The option to auto accept was unchecked. Trying again now. I do have a password configured, but I was never even prompted for one
[13:58] <gnaruag>  all of my system ports are closed ,  transmission is not able to download , how to open the ports ?
[13:58] <szal> valleydaddy78: remove /var/lib/apt/lists/*, then run apt-get update
[13:58] <gnaruag> valleydaddy78, any idea ?
[13:59] <valleydaddy78> szal where do i find the list
[13:59] <Xano> riktking: Auto accepting new connections did the trick. Thank you!
[13:59] <szal> valleydaddy78: what list?
[13:59] <riktking> Xano: your welcome, have fun stay safe!
[13:59] <ixi> anyone know how to hide mysqld version revealed by nmap (-sV option)? the output is like (version column) "mysql 5.1.54-1ubuntu4" - I'd like to get only the "mysql" string there.
[13:59]  * Xano is now going to try and set up Synergy
[13:59] <valleydaddy78> szal the one your saying to remove
[14:00] <szal> valleydaddy78: you find it exactly where I said
[14:00] <riktking> Xano: i have tried that between windows boxes and had a nightmare, was with Win 7 and vista tho so maybe not the the best set up :D
[14:00] <cablop> i had to change moptherboards, but i keep the same graphic card, but for some reason it is not being recognized, what should i do?
[14:00] <inktri1> i've got a laptop with an ati card. is it possible, upon connecting to a higher resolution monitor, to have catalyst disable my laptop screen and adjust resolution to match my external monitor?
[14:00] <Xano> riktking: I just tried with quicksynergy, but that's very badly designed UI
[14:01] <Xano> riktking: Maybe you can clarify something for me: which box is the server and which one is the client in Synergy?
[14:01] <valleydaddy78> szal i dont know how
[14:01] <Garagoth> Hello.
[14:01] <Xano> riktking: I thought the one you want to control remotely is the server and you need to use the "Share" pane in Quicksynergy. Somewhere I read it's the other way around
[14:02] <riktking> Xano: the server is the one you want to control from, client connects to this
[14:02] <riktking> i think
[14:02] <Garagoth> Guys, I have a problem... I need to compile OpenCV 2.2 and highgui needs linux/videodev.h. It was in linux-libc-dev in pre-natty, but it is not there in natty
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> You sit at the server.. and controll the clients.. i think. :)
[14:02] <szal> valleydaddy78: so you're telling us you can use apt on the terminal but not delete a file or directory?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> Synergy is so handy.. but can be a bit tricky to get going.
[14:03] <Xano> riktking: Okay, I'll tinker a bit more then. thanks
[14:03] <doxin> how does one disable previews in nautilus?
[14:03] <riktking> Xano: by the looks of it Dr_Willis knows WAAYY More about it than me
[14:03] <Garagoth> Anyone knows how to get linux/videodev.h in Natty?
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> All i learned is from reading the syngery doc and playing with it a lot last year.
[14:04] <jrib> doxin: it's an option in nautilus' settings
[14:04] <doxin> hm
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> I learned you DONT ssh in, and start the syngery client if you got X forwarding enabled.. that really confuses things.  :)
[14:04] <valleydaddy78> szal no im telling you i dont want to delete the wrong thing and be up shits creek lol
[14:05] <szal> valleydaddy78: we've had success doing this in here just an hour before you asked
[14:05] <cablop> what is the difference between the b43 and the sta drivers? they're for wireless
[14:05] <blueprin1> anyone here who can help me set up wlan on ubuntu server???
[14:05] <valleydaddy78> lol
[14:05] <valleydaddy78> szal ok
[14:05] <doxin> jrib: is there some way to disable previews for folders with more than X items?
[14:06] <valleydaddy78> szal so what exactly are we deleting here
[14:06] <szal> valleydaddy78: exactly what I said
[14:06] <jrib> doxin: don't know (don't think so though).  There are restrictions on max file size iirc
[14:06] <cablop> hey guys, my agp was working before, now it is not being recognized... what can i do?
[14:06] <jrib> cablop: be less vague
[14:06] <inashdeen> hi, anyone, is it possible to install mac's imovie on ubuntu and why???
[14:06] <inashdeen> or how
[14:06] <valleydaddy78> szal im in list and in the top corner there is a partial folder and a bunch of filesw
[14:06] <doxin> jrib: thats not really any good in a folder with a couple thousand small files tho :P
[14:07] <szal> valleydaddy78: the content of /var/lib/apt/lists/, but not the dir itself
[14:07] <phiV> hey, how can I run emacs on terminal? Everytime I execute emacs it opens an separate emacs window instead.
[14:07] <valleydaddy78> szal so do i delete lib,apt,or lists
[14:08] <szal> *omfg*
[14:08] <deployment> Can someone guide me on how to use ubuntu file permissons as i'm finding it a pain..
[14:08] <Xano> Dr_Willis: What forwarding?
[14:08] <szal> !fhs | valleydaddy78
[14:08] <jrib> !permissions | deployment
[14:08] <sipior> phiV: emacs -nw, if i remember correctly.
[14:09] <phiV> sipior: do I have to do that every time? Is there a way I can set it to always only open in terminal?
[14:09] <deployment> Can someone guide me on how to use ubuntu file permissons as i'm finding it a pain.. - I have an example I wish to discuss
[14:09] <jrib> deployment: read ubottus' link
[14:09] <valleydaddy78> szal so your telling me to pay some one to do it for me
[14:10] <cablop> jrib i was being less vage and got no help
[14:10] <sipior> phiV: you could create an alias for "emacs -nw", if you really want to. alias emacs="emacs -nw"
[14:10] <deployment> jrib: indeed but i need more like sub/sub folders
[14:10] <jrib> deployment: ask a specific question
[14:10] <phiV> sipior: k :\
[14:10] <szal> valleydaddy78: no, I'm telling you to read up on basic concepts
[14:10] <dark_echo> hey
[14:10] <pr0ton_> hello
[14:10] <csaax> hej i need help..
[14:10] <pr0ton_> does anybody know of a local 'Dropbox' solution?
[14:10] <jrib> cablop: "my agp was working before, now it is not being recognized" is too vague.
[14:10] <pr0ton_> i know rsync does something of that sort
[14:10] <celthunder> pr0ton_: unison
[14:11] <dark_echo> i' ve got a keyboard problem and i' m usıng 11.04
[14:11] <pr0ton_> celthunder, thanks
[14:11] <pr0ton_> i'll check it
[14:11] <valleydaddy78> szal naw im good i just need exact files to delete
[14:11] <cablop> jrib i said my problem before and got no help, then i tried being more general in the sentence you quoted
[14:11] <jrib> cablop: k.
[14:11] <szal> valleydaddy78: how can it get more exact than what I gave you?
[14:11] <sipior> pr0ton_: there's "sparkleshare", but that's still in beta at the moment.
[14:11] <dark_echo> my keyboard currently has Turkısh layout and i'm not able to press the less than and greater than symbols
[14:11] <cablop> jrib anyway, my problem is i changed the motherboard, but i plugged the same AGP card on it,and moved same disk, but it is not recognizing the AGP
[14:12] <cablop> jrib i have video, but no graphic acceleration
[14:12] <dark_echo> mykeyboard is a4tech kl-23
[14:12] <deployment> jrib: OK I have a folder /images and inside are two sub folders and inside them is a sub folder each.. I want to push the permissons from the root /images folder to effect all files and folders below it.  When i set in the permissons tab it only does one level..
[14:12] <dark_echo> is this a some ısort of driver problem ?
[14:12] <celthunder> deployment: chown -R
[14:12] <jrib> dark_echo: check the "apply recursively" option
[14:12] <valleydaddy78> szal because it starts a var and ends at lists and some where in there is what i need to delete and i aint good at huntuing
[14:13] <jrib> deployment: make sure this isn't some system directory as you will likely break things
[14:13] <jrib> deployment: check the "apply recursively" option
[14:13] <szal> valleydaddy78: again, read up on the concept of files and directories in *nix..  what I gave you is not a guessing game, it's an exact path
[14:14] <MagicJ> I am getting th message: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". - what do I need to fix?
[14:14] <celthunder> dark_echo: does xev see the keys?
[14:14] <szal> dark_echo: FGĞIOD or QWERTY?
[14:14] <dark_echo> jrib: where is that option ? at keyboard preferences ?
[14:14] <deployment> jrib: is not system folder.. where is apply recursively?
[14:14] <celthunder> MagicJ: mesa?
[14:14] <blueprin1> ANYONE who can help me? I can't connect my "ASUS Eee 901" with "Ubuntu 11.04 Server" to my WLAN with WPA2-encryption... I have googled a lot but can't fint a working sollution... Please PM me
[14:14] <deployment> jrib: on ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[14:14] <valleydaddy78> szal so i just delete the list folder
[14:14] <dark_echo> szal: qwerty
[14:14] <szal> valleydaddy78: no, you delete its content
[14:14] <valleydaddy78> szal cause thats where the path ends
[14:15] <celthunder> blueprin1: what wireless chipset does the eee 901 have
[14:15] <valleydaddy78> ok
[14:15] <valleydaddy78> szal ok
[14:15] <szal> dark_echo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/KB_Turkey.svg/400px-KB_Turkey.svg.png
[14:15] <blueprin1> celthunder: how do i check that?
[14:15] <celthunder> blueprin1: lspci is a good start
[14:16] <cablop> how can i force ubuntu to rerecognize my hardware?
[14:16] <dark_echo> szal: i have less than and greater than symbols a left to the Z symbol
[14:16] <gohdan> cablop: hit it with a really big stick
[14:16] <celthunder> cablop: ? load the required kernel modules?
[14:17] <celthunder> or as gohan so nicely said bash it with a stick
[14:17] <cablop> celthunder: how to?
[14:17] <if124> cablop: try dmesg | grep -i agp .
[14:17] <dark_echo> i mean the layout is shift then lt gt symbols then z symbol from left to right
[14:17] <if124> w/out the dot
[14:17] <blueprin1> celthunder: is this correct: 01:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2860
[14:17] <valleydaddy78> szal it wont let me move to trash
[14:17] <cablop> if124: ok going to test
[14:17] <szal> dark_echo: apparently that key doesn't exist on a standard Turkish QWERTY keyboard
[14:18] <celthunder> blueprin1: ok do you have the ralink modules loaded (should work pretty much out of box with most generic kernels)
[14:18] <blueprin1> celthunder: i can se wlan0 when i type ifconfig -a
[14:18] <deployment> jrib: is not system folder.. where is apply recursively?
[14:18] <deployment> jrib: on ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[14:18] <celthunder> blueprin1: ok and does the card support wpa2 in linux?
[14:18] <dark_echo> szal: actually the lt and gt symbols are exactly the same place in any other turkish keyboards i have used so far
[14:19] <Dommer> forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?33149-Mafia-3
[14:19] <valleydaddy78> szal it wont let me delete the contents
[14:19] <Dommer> ffffffffff, sorry DX
[14:19]  * szal gives up on valleydaddy78
[14:19] <valleydaddy78> szal i may have to reinstall
[14:19] <blueprin1> celthunder: I think so, since I can connect with ubuntu 11.04 desktop
[14:19] <celthunder> valleydaddy78: what're you trying to delete
[14:20] <jayer89> can anyone help me ive installed and upgraded to ubuntu11.04 but now my screen resolution is stuck on 640x480 (4:3)
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> jayer89:  and your video card is?
[14:20] <valleydaddy78> celthunder szal says to delete var/lib/apt/list but when i try it wont allow me
[14:21] <blueprin1> celthunder: i just cant fint the right settings for the server version since I only have the console here
[14:21] <dark_echo> how can i check ıf the ubuntu reposıtory has the drivers of my current keyboard model so i can update
[14:21] <jayer89> nvidia geforce 6100
[14:21] <celthunder> blueprin1: ok so do you have wpa_supplicant? what happens when you try to connect ? how are you tryin gto connect are you using terminal or a network manager
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> jayer89:  you may need to reinstall the nvidia drivers and/or run the nvidia-settings tool to set teh proper res.
[14:21] <szal> valleydaddy78: http://www.linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php#rm
[14:21] <celthunder> blueprin1: lol ok you just answered a few i think as i was talking
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> dark_echo:  what kind of keyboard you have that needs drivers?
[14:21] <celthunder> valleydaddy78: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/list
[14:21] <cablop> if124 well three lines but no error messages there
[14:22] <blueprin1> celthunder: i have wpa_supplicant installed and I'm trying to connect using the terminal
[14:22] <dark_echo> a4tech kl-23
[14:22] <dark_echo> Dr_Willis: a4tech kl23
[14:22] <if124> cablop put it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and show the link
[14:22] <valleydaddy78> celthunder thanks that sounds more practical
[14:22] <riktking> how do i find out the CPU type from the command line?
[14:23] <celthunder> blueprin1: http://blog.sudonetworks.com/2010/03/configuring-wpawpa2-on-linux-clients.html
[14:23] <Pici> riktking: cat /proc/cpuinfo or lscpu
[14:23] <llutz> riktking: less /proc/cpuinfo
[14:23] <riktking> ty
[14:23] <celthunder> riktking: /proc/cpuinfo
[14:23] <celthunder> er
[14:23] <jayer89> i have tried that Dr willis but it wont allow me to change it
[14:23] <dark_echo> Dr_Willis: its a sandard keyboard comes with a pc
[14:23] <cablop> if124 ok, give me a second that's another computer
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> dark_echo:  cant say ive ever seen a keyboard under linx that needed drivers. o ther then to enable any special featuures. Like on my G15
[14:23] <dark_echo> Dr_Willis: * standard
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> dark_echo:  so i dont understand why you think you need drivers.
[14:23] <celthunder> dark_echo: you can bind the nonworking keys with xmodmap?
[14:24] <vortex> hey guyys is it possible to remove Unity in Ubuntu 11.04?
[14:24] <celthunder> vortex: apt-get remove unity?
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> vortex:  ive heard its possible.. ive also heard it can break things.
[14:24] <szal> valleydaddy78: it's spoonfeeding..  give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day - teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime
[14:24] <riktking> vortex: log out and log in with ubuntu classic
[14:24] <valleydaddy78> celthunder cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/list': No such file or directory
[14:24] <jennie> ii  mm  ggeettiinngg  ddoouubbllee  iinn  uubbuunnttuu  nnoott  iinn  wwiinnddoowwss??  hheellpp  ??  ??
[14:24] <blueprin1> celthunder: i'll try that and get back to yopu if it doesn't work :)
[14:24] <matyy> Hey, I read that libreoffice 3.4 has unity/global menu integration, I installed it / also that extra deb for menu integration - but it is not integrated. Do I have to set anything? I can't find anything …
[14:24] <vortex> riktking there is a ubuntu classic mode?
[14:24] <dark_echo> Dr_Willis:  i explained at above it is a turkish qwerty keyboard and i can' t be able to press the less tah  and greater than symbols
[14:25] <llutz> valleydaddy78: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[14:25] <cablop> if124 http://paste.ubuntu.com/621756/
[14:25] <celthunder> valleydaddy78: then think about the output as szal mentioned...you seem to be incapable of thinking for yourself
[14:25] <valleydaddy78> szal im a omnivore
[14:25] <bullgard4> http://ubuntuforums.org: "Or, Sign in using your LaunchpadID" > "You are about to be fredirected to your openID provider. If you are not redirected automatically, please click the continue button below" --  What is an »openID provider«? What is »my openID provider«?
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> dark_echo:  sounds like you need to set  the proper language/keyboard map in the settings. Not look for drivers
[14:25] <riktking> vortex: yeah if you choose the log out option you can you can log in with ubuntu classic
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> dark_echo:  ive onluy used USA keyboards. so thats all i can suggezst. good luck
[14:25] <dark_echo> Dr_Willis: i already set it to Turkish layout
[14:25] <vortex> thanks riktking. Do you prefer gnome or unity?
[14:25] <riktking> is there a way to change from i386 to x64 easily or is it a re-install?
[14:25] <dark_echo> Dr_Willis: thanks anyway
[14:26] <jennie> ii mm ggeettiinngg ddoouubbllee iinn uubbuunnttuu nnoott iinn wwiinnddoowwss?? hheellpp ?? ??
[14:26] <jayer89> ive just gone into additional drivers and the selected driver says this driver is activated but not currently in use
[14:26] <riktking> vortex: i have started to get into unity, it takes some getting used to but i <3 it now
[14:26] <valleydaddy78> celthunder sorry if im alot slow
[14:26] <dark_echo> another idea ?
[14:26] <riktking> vortex: i have even put the task bar on my win7 on the left so i go to the right place automagically
[14:26] <cablop> jennie i don't remember the command or steps, but it is something related with the way xorg is managing your input timing, go and fix it
[14:26] <valleydaddy78> celthunder cause i actually am
[14:27] <cablop> if124 they seem pretty normal, right?
[14:27] <vortex> riktking can you run AWN on Unity or do u need gnome?
[14:27] <Pici> valleydaddy78: Take a look a the command that llutz suggested.
[14:27] <if124> cablop: yes, but i have never installed any kind of linux in a pc with agp ports.
[14:27] <riktking> vortex: i dont know about that sorry
[14:27] <if124> cablop: i don't know what it should look like.
[14:28] <cablop> if124: the weird thing is it was working before, i just switched the board because the old was failing
[14:28] <cablop> if124: i see..
[14:29] <valleydaddy78> pici now it changed and said that it cant rm because it is a directory
[14:29] <darkbrand> usermod is not working properly, executing this as root from / adds the user to the specified groups but a home directory is not created: # usermod -md /home/tux1/ -G audio,cdrom,video,lpadmin tux1     Any idea what went wrong?
[14:31] <gohdan> valleydaddy78: 'rm -rf'
[14:32] <llutz> darkbrand: why -md?
[14:32] <coachz> hi
[14:32] <llutz> gohdan: no
[14:32] <coachz> is java runtime included in ubuntu 11 ?
[14:32] <gohdan> llutz: oh
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  I dont think so.
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  not by default at least.
[14:32] <_serial_> you can install it with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:32] <darkbrand> llutz: apparently it creates skelton files in the new directory?! i didn't work with -d only either
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  theres a check box at install that I think can auto-download/install it.
[14:32] <llutz> gohdan: he should remove the files from that dir, not any dirs
[14:33] <coachz> Dr_Willis,  what's the easiest way for me to install it on a pc that already has 11
[14:33] <gohdan> llutz: sorry. didnt catch the scroll back
[14:33] <llutz> darkbrand: -md    moves an existing home-dir, but i can't tell why -d dir   doesn't work, sry
[14:33] <_serial_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  see what _serial_  said.
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> That will install the iced-tea version of java i belive. coachz
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> !java
[14:34] <_serial_> it is
[14:34] <darkbrand> llutz: nevermind
[14:34] <coachz> what's an iced_tea version,  don't I want the one from sun ?
[14:34] <_serial_> its oracle now
[14:34] <llutz> darkbrand: aeh, you're sure, you don't want to use useradd?
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  if you NEED the one from sun.. you enable the right repo.. ive had no issues with the GPL/icedtea version
[14:34] <_serial_> but the packages start with sun-java6-jre if your wanting the runtime only
[14:35] <coachz> cool, thanks
[14:35] <_serial_> openjdk is pretty good too
[14:35] <jayer89> hi
[14:35] <doxin> is there a file browser around that can handle a shitload of files+previews properly? nautilus is just too slow.
[14:35] <darkbrand> llutz: I already created a new user. Anyway, deleted it and tried with useradd and still not working
[14:35] <coachz> my neighbors have a 16 and 14 year old who have pcs with windows that are both filled with viruses
[14:35] <fellipe> hi everyone. I've made a rbash account and editted .profile and changed $PATH to $HOME only. then I've copied /bin/su into this home to just allow this jailed user to run su command. but when I try to su to another account, it seems the password is incorrect, but logging from ssh it's ok. can aynone help?
[14:35] <coachz> so i put ubuntu on both and they are now trying to learn :-)
[14:36] <darkbrand> Oh and btw, I tried adduser but I kept getting syntax errors
[14:36] <coachz> of course they think pcs are only for games so they want java so they can play
[14:36] <tyler_d> k so you know the bar that pops out on the right hand side. how do I pick which monitor that thing is on? I want it on my temp desk monitor on the lhs of my laptop?
[14:36] <llutz> darkbrand: if the user doesn't exit, this should do as you want: sudo useradd -md /home/tux1/ -G audio,cdrom,video,lpadmin tux1
[14:36] <tyreza> hello there
[14:36] <tyreza> how to perform a complete hardware check on a server ?
[14:36] <valleydaddy78> *is going to do a reinstall and hope for the best
[14:37] <valleydaddy78> dueces
[14:37] <llutz> valleydaddy78: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*                     type this exactly or copy paste it
[14:37] <tyler_d> second to this, how do I get alsa sound controls to show in the panel; gnome-volume-control simply comes up and says its waiting for the server(some pulseaudio garbage) and since I have removed all pulse that won't work
[14:37] <blueprin1> celthunder: when I type "wpa_passphrase MYWLAN" it does not do anything, do you know why?
[14:37] <darkbrand> llutz: id tux1: uid=1001(tux1) gid=1002(tux1) groups=1002(tux1),24(cdrom),29(audio),44(video),112(lpadmin)
[14:37] <celthunder> Blueprin1 does it just go to the next line? if yes in linux that generally means it worked
[14:38] <gohdan> hello gang, i have logged in locally via 'su -l foo' and am trying to have xeyes run in my X session as user 'foo'. when i execute xeyes the shell complains with the following: "No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0.0". i have 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' and even tried  'DISPLAY=:0.0 xeyes' to no avail. any help or tips would be most appreciated.
[14:38] <llutz> darkbrand: did it create the home-dir?
[14:38] <tyreza> hello
[14:38] <darkbrand> llutz: nope :(
[14:38] <llutz> :(
[14:38] <celthunder> gohdan, make a terminal in the X session and start xeyes there as the user you want?
[14:38] <tyreza> is it possible to do complete hardware check on ubuntu server ?
[14:38] <celthunder> tyreza, what you mean
[14:39] <blueprin1> celthunder: it says "# reading passphrase fron stdin" but does not show a new bash-line
[14:39] <valleydaddy78> llutz rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/': Is a directory
[14:39] <llutz> valleydaddy78: learn to read
[14:39] <inktri1> what's the equivalent of the " /usr/local/apache2.2" for ubuntu if i've installed apache from the repo?
[14:39] <darkbrand> Does anyone know how to translate: useradd -d /home/tux1/ -G audio,cdrom,video,lpadmin tux1
[14:39] <tyreza> i simply wanna know if possible to check hardware working correctlu or not
[14:39] <Diverdude> hello
[14:39] <valleydaddy78> llutz bye
[14:39] <darkbrand> to adduser?
[14:39] <Diverdude> how do i count the number of files in a folder from terminal?
[14:39] <gohdan> celthunder: right.
[14:39] <celthunder> blueprin1 sounds like it's missing an arguement?
[14:40] <Pici> Diverdude: ls | wc -l
[14:40] <Pici> Diverdude: ls will properly change its output when piping to other programs.  See for yourself with ls | less if you want.
[14:40] <celthunder> Diverdude, find <folder> | wc -l
[14:40] <szal> valleydaddy78: well, llutz is totally right
[14:41] <if124> blueprin1: when i was playing with arch linux this is the command to connect to wpa2 wlan : ifconfig wlan0 up; then continue from this paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/621764/
[14:41] <tyreza> how to make an hardware test ?
[14:41] <celthunder> if124 you use arch too :)
[14:41] <valleydaddy78> if your not try or your done trying to help me then dont respond to me im frustrated enough
[14:41] <private_meta> Hi. I got Ubuntu LTS 10.04 Server installed, and the motd is always written twice, how can I fix that?
[14:41] <bullgard4> http://ubuntuforums.org: "Or, Sign in using your LaunchpadID" > "You are about to be redirected to your openID provider. If you are not redirected automatically, please click the continue button below" --  What is an »openID provider«? What is »my openID provider«?
[14:41] <valleydaddy78> what ever
[14:42] <valleydaddy78> to hell wit ubuntu
[14:42] <llutz> !attitude | valleydaddy78
[14:42] <celthunder> tyreza, memtest86 for ram hard drive you can test i'm sure cpu either it works or it doesn't...sound either you get sound or you don't....usb...plug something into it....cd/dvd does bios see it...and so on
[14:42] <ikonia> bullgard4: single sign on
[14:42] <IdleOne> valleydaddy78: you need to run that rm command with sudo in front of it
[14:42] <if124> celthunder: i used to. already switched again
[14:42] <darkbrand> llutz: Thanks! I solved it using the adduser utility!
[14:42] <celthunder> if124 lol
[14:42] <llutz> darkbrand: still wonder why useradd didn't do the job. anyways
[14:42] <Pici> valleydaddy78: This is the exact command that llutz asked you to run: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*     The error that you're giving makes it sound like you didn't run that command.
[14:43] <olskolirc> someone say my name please?
[14:43] <jayer89> can anyone help me ive installed ubuntu 11.04 resolution stuck at 640 x 380
[14:43] <doxin> olskolirc
[14:43] <Pici> !test | olskolirc
[14:43] <olskolirc> thanks doxin
[14:43] <valleydaddy78> thats what i did and it asked me for a password and i entered it and then it said it could not do it
[14:43] <celthunder> valleydaddy78 don't blame others for your illiteracy good luck with any other distro ubuntu holds your hand the most most other distros would have told you to rtfm by now
[14:43] <olskolirc> #test
[14:43] <IdleOne> Pici: does he need to use rmdir instead?
[14:43] <olskolirc> oh
[14:43] <celthunder> olskolirc, hi
[14:44] <llutz> IdleOne: he should remove the files from that dir, not any dirs
[14:44] <jayer89> can anyone help me ive installed ubuntu 11.04 resolution stuck at 640 x 380
[14:44] <szal> valleydaddy78: apparently you didn't, otherwise it wouldn't have told you that
[14:44] <jayer89> can anyone help me ive installed ubuntu 11.04 resolution stuck at 640 x 380
[14:44] <valleydaddy78> im not blaming anybody but if you dont want to help anymore then leave me alone
[14:44] <szal> !repeat | jayer89
[14:44] <celthunder> jayer89, what graphics card/modules are loaded
[14:44] <IdleOne> llutz: I don't know what the issue is I just caught the last few lines.
[14:44] <jayer89> i dno
[14:44] <Pici> valleydaddy78: I want to help.  Can you pastebin the results of this: ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/
[14:44] <Irish`> valleydaddy78, the command was given to you almost an hour ago. you've already been helped, you just won't accept that help
[14:44] <blueprin1> celthunder: I forgot the passpthrase in the command :P
[14:45] <celthunder> blueprin1 lol might help
[14:45] <szal> IdleOne: apparently he missed a trailing asterisk in a verbatim cmd
[14:45] <Pici> Irish`: We don't need the commentary.
[14:45] <tyler_d> k so you know the bar that pops out on the right hand side. how do I pick which monitor that thing is on? I want it on my temp desk monitor on the lhs of my laptop?
[14:45] <blueprin1> celthunder: yeah
[14:45] <gohdan> jayer89: 'lspci | grep VGA'
[14:45] <usr> hello, linuxoids )
[14:46] <celthunder> usr hi
[14:46] <valleydaddy78> i never installed pasttebin thats part of the prob my machine wont let me install or ubdate because of the prob
[14:46] <szal> valleydaddy78: to press your nose on it..  it's a difference to type /var/lib/apt/lists/ or /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[14:46] <zachlr> I accidentally hit the hardware touchpad off button on this HP dv9000 and all hell broke loose.  Touchpad settings disappeared and I spent half an hour just getting pointing to work.  gpointing-device-settings has no relevant options.  Help!
[14:46] <Pici> valleydaddy78: Use the website.
[14:46] <magicj> I have a system where the screen saver will not run - message is: xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display - I believe that the issue is that at one time I had an nvidia card and the drivers ar installed.  How do I fix this
[14:47] <th0r> zachlr: take a look at synclient
[14:47] <Pici> valleydaddy78: paste the results to http://paste.ubuntu.com  and then sumbit and give me the url that it returns.
[14:47] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you.
[14:47] <celthunder> magicj, do you have mesa insalled?
[14:47] <zachlr> th0r, thanks.  is there a GUI for it?
[14:47] <th0r> zachlr: not sure....I am a cli person
[14:47] <magicj> celthunder: not sure what mesa is - so possibly - what is it
[14:48] <celthunder> magicj 3d libraries
[14:48] <celthunder> and i believe it includes the GLX stuff
[14:48] <tyreza> well how to run memetest on ubuntu ?
[14:48] <celthunder> tyreza, insert boot cd go to test memory
[14:48] <Guest79045> ciao
[14:49] <magicj> celthunder: do not believe so - certainly do not need them - this is a "email and browse the web:" only computer
[14:49] <jayer89> im in the channel cel
[14:49] <Guest79045> !list
[14:49] <celthunder> jayer89, do you have the nvidia drivers loaded?
[14:49] <jayer89> yes i do
[14:49] <valleydaddy78> pici http://pastebin.com/fEjtpvTy
[14:49] <magicj> celthunder: I can install it if it would help - and was that last question addressed to me rather than jayer?
[14:50] <jayer89> when i got to aditional drivers it says the driver is atcivated but not in use
[14:50] <Pici> valleydaddy78: Thats not the output of:  ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/
[14:50] <celthunder> magicj, no that was to jayer i think you need mesa
[14:50] <zachlr> th0r, "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"  That sounds like a clue, like the driver was unloaded and dropped to a generic driver or something.  Any ideas?
[14:50] <celthunder> magicj, or a different screensaver backend
[14:50] <[SpitfirE]> Does anyone know of a reason i wouldnt be able to boot Ubuntu from a flash drive, after i choose install i get the error: "no such file or directory" - Always in /scripts/casper-bottom/
[14:51] <blueprin1> celthunder: using the link you provided, I get the following error:
[14:51] <celthunder> [SpitfirE], is there a  file in /scripts/casper-bottom
[14:51] <tyreza> is it possible to run memtest from cli ?
[14:51] <valleydaddy78> pici http://pastebin.com/vRFNkDND
[14:51] <magicj> celthunder: the screen saver that is failing is ANY of them that I try to activate - I have made no changes there.  Is it possible to disable the nvidia driver which I suspect is the issue.
[14:52] <celthunder> magicj, yeah modprobe -r it
[14:52] <blueprin1> celthunder: WPA: invalid EAPOL-Key MIC - dropping packet
[14:52] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], possibly your specifying the wrong partition or your image is not setup for grub2 iso boot
[14:52] <gohdan> tyreza: memtest86+ is not a native *nix program
[14:52] <celthunder> blueprin1 no idea about that error sorry
[14:52] <blueprin1> celthunder:  ok
[14:52] <llutz> tyreza: you have to "boot" it, its running like an OS
[14:53] <Pici> valleydaddy78: Okay, now please run: sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists/ -type f -delete
[14:53] <pfifo> !pm | [SpitfirE] its easire to keep it here,
[14:54] <valleydaddy78> pici it did nothing visible
[14:54] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], what cd image are you using?
[14:54] <[SpitfirE]> Thats cool
[14:54] <magicj> celthunder: sorry to be so dense but how do I modprobe -r it?
[14:54] <[SpitfirE]> I just didnt want to be publicly outed as a moron
[14:54] <[SpitfirE]> ;P
[14:54] <[SpitfirE]> Err
[14:54] <[SpitfirE]> One moment ill find it
[14:54] <chance> yo yo got some troubles with my wireless
[14:55] <zachlr> also, syndaemon: Unable to find a synaptics device.
[14:55] <Pici> valleydaddy78: Good. It shouldn't have given you any output.  Now run sudo apt-get update and install/upgrade whatever you were trying to do beforehand.
[14:55] <chance> i just upgraded to naddy and even though <enable wireless> is checked, it still shows as disabled
[14:55] <celthunder> magicj, modprobe -r nvidia
[14:55] <chance> ifconfig only shows eth0 and lo
[14:55] <[SpitfirE]> pfifo11.04-desktop-i386
[14:55] <valleydaddy78> pici hey i went to the dir and its clear
[14:55] <valleydaddy78> pici ok ill try
[14:56] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], how did you install it to the flash drive?
[14:56] <valleydaddy78> pici dude your phreakin awsome
[14:56] <[SpitfirE]> Universal USB Installer
[14:56] <celthunder> chance, wireless card/ ifconfig -a results / does it show up in lspci/lsusb (depending on connection type)
[14:56] <Pici> valleydaddy78: great to hear it worked.
[14:56] <[SpitfirE]> Ive also tried UNetbootin
[14:56] <valleydaddy78> pici is there a place i can send a donation to for you
[14:57] <chance> hey celthunder: no it doesn't show up
[14:57] <Pici> valleydaddy78: Not needed, just keep using ubuntu :)
[14:57] <valleydaddy78> pici now can you tell me how it worked
[14:57] <chance> i fixed it before in the older distro by rfkill and ifconfig-ing it back to being active
[14:57] <szal> valleydaddy78: you could've been done w/ that an hour ago if you had had a clue about using the cmdline in the first place
[14:57] <Pici> valleydaddy78: I just gave you a command that would recursively delete any files (not directories) in the path where apt thought it had a corrupt file.
[14:57] <g[r]eek> Hi. I accidentally deleted a PHP file on my ubuntu server (on the command line). Can I recover it? If so, what is the simplest way?
[14:58] <valleydaddy78> pici nvr mind ill just get a ubuntu book
[14:58] <chance> what file g[r]eek?
[14:58] <g[r]eek> chance, a PHP script, "generate-report.php"
[14:58] <valleydaddy78> pici ohhhhhh ok so it was an alternate root
[14:58] <valleydaddy78> cool
[14:58] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], do you have access to a linux system?
[14:58] <[SpitfirE]> No I do not.
[14:58] <[SpitfirE]> Unfortunately.
[14:58] <chance> so this is more of a file recovery issue g[r]eek?  the fact it is a php file is dubious to this problem, correct?
[14:59] <chance> g[r]eek: how'd you delete it in the first place?
[14:59] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], not even a live enviroment?
[14:59] <salec> hey guys, I got a bit of a problem w/ my ubuntu server.  My server is running on a software RAID 1 array w/ 2 partitions (/boot, and /) and my /boot partition is pretty tiny (100megs).  I want to update my kernel but the updater is having some problems because it cannot extract the newer kernel image in the /boot directory because of lack of space
[14:59] <g[r]eek> chance, yes the fact that it is a PHP file is arguably irrelevant, however my googling has referred me to recovery tools that are geared for images, so I figured it would be best to point out the file type
[14:59] <salec> is it possible to a) resize the partition to be larger (without @#$@# up the other partition)  or b) remove the old kernel before running the updator?
[14:59] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], are you using a usb2.0 device in a usb3.0 port?
[15:00] <chance> celthunder: if the network manager isn't enabling the wireless, and i'm not able to via command line, do you think there's an update/patch something i can do to get the ol' thing working.
[15:00] <g[r]eek> chance, the file was delete by running "rm generate-report.php" on the command line
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> g[r]eek: go and look in .local/share/Trash
[15:00] <[SpitfirE]> That is a possibility but I would have no way of knowing Pfifo
[15:00] <zachlr> is there some way to see/manage what drivers are active?
[15:00] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], try a different usb port(s) and see if that helps
[15:00] <celthunder> chance, can you give me the output of lspci/lsusb (depending on how the card is connected)
[15:00] <melhor> question: i know libgpod does not support the ipod nano 6g. But with Ubuntu 10.10 i could at least listen to the music on my ipod, now with natty, i get the error message: unable to find HFS+ superblock.
[15:00] <celthunder> zachlr, lsmod
[15:01] <celthunder> zachlr, manage with modprobe
[15:01] <zachlr> celthunder, thanks
[15:01] <[SpitfirE]> Surely if its reading it fine and ive used it hundreds of times before that cant be the problem?
[15:01] <[SpitfirE]> Or is there any way of looking to see if they're incompatible?
[15:01] <chance> celthunder yah give me a moment, have to switch OS's
[15:02] <[SpitfirE]> Or would it be easier for me to actually put the .ISO on a disc?
[15:02] <chance> g[r]eek lets try some things, i'll brb k?
[15:02] <[SpitfirE]> My uncles a bit of a whizz with this sort of thing so I could get him to put it on a disc
[15:02] <g[r]eek> chance ok thanks
[15:02] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], the installer does not have USB 3.0 drivers
[15:02] <[SpitfirE]> Would the disc idea be better
[15:03] <[SpitfirE]> I fell at the hurdle of getting an ISO onto the disc even following the instructions but I think my drive is knackered anyway
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> g[r]eek: still about the deleted files?
[15:03] <pfifo> [SpitfirE], Yes, without a working linux most of the support methods for usb boot goes out the window
[15:03] <[SpitfirE]> Right
[15:03] <[SpitfirE]> Thanks for your help pal, ill go give that a try.
[15:03] <g[r]eek> MonkeyDust, yup. I looked for that folder but it doesn't seem to exist on my server
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> g[r]eek: go and look in .local/share/Trash/files
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> ah ok
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> g[r]eek: what distro is ur server?
[15:04] <gohdan> g[r]eek: no backups to roll back to?
[15:04] <valleydaddy78> #ubuntu YEAH this thing is moving now 2weeks worth of updates in progress
[15:04] <peter__> when I turn on my computer from suspend the login screen for natty is some kind of corrupted image... anyone know anything about it?
[15:05] <fist> hey, im using: wget --output-document=dir1/file.pdf to download a file and rename it .. but the command fails, if directory "dir1" does not exists .. does someone know a parameter to fix this
[15:05] <g[r]eek> gohdan, unfortunately not. The folder in question isn't rsynced.
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> g[r]eek: don't forget the dot before local
[15:05] <jrib> fist: create the directory first
[15:05] <g[r]eek> MonkeyDust, yeah ;)
[15:05] <tyler_d> k so you know the bar that pops out on the right hand side. how do I pick which monitor that thing is on? I want it on my temp desk monitor on the lhs of my laptop?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> g[r]eek: type locate Trash|less
[15:06] <g[r]eek> MonkeyDust, running version 10.04
[15:06] <peter__> anyone else getting a bad login screen on natty when logging in from suspend mode?
[15:06] <if124> g[r]eek : if you use rm chances are it's gone. check this faq, section 3.6 https://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.questions/msg/a59d907fa04e763c
[15:06] <g[r]eek> MonkeyDust, latest LTS server afaikl
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> g[r]eek: ten it does exist
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> then*
[15:06] <if124> g[r]eek : try find ~/. | grep -i trash
[15:07] <g[r]eek> ok
[15:07] <g[r]eek> if124, returns nothing
[15:07] <if124> g[r]eek : then there is no trash file anywhere in your home folder.
[15:08] <pfifo> fist wget -x
[15:09] <Fester77> i got a dualboot win7 and (k)ubuntu .... i need to reinstall my win7 and the mbr will be overwritten ... how can i readd ubuntu without having to reinstall it all with wubi?
[15:09] <if124> g[r]eek : to clarify, find ~/. lists all files in the home folder, grep looks for "trash", -i for ignore case
[15:09] <g[r]eek> if124, nope there isn't, I've triple-checked
[15:09] <magicj> celthunder: I guess I was wrong - it told me I did not have it installed
[15:09] <chance> hey celthunder, it shows eth0 wlan0 and lo
[15:09] <chance> 0 packets and activity for wlan0
[15:10] <g[r]eek> if124, and based on the FAQ you shared, it seems all hope is lost
[15:10] <jayer89> fester you can reinstall the windows boot loader and it will detect ubuntu there so you can choose what os you want to boot
[15:10] <celthunder> chance, ok so connect using iwconfig and dhclient or something (if it's not wpa network that's all you need)
[15:10] <g[r]eek> if124, "Consider it a rite of passage." beautifully put.
[15:10] <jayer89> when you boot it will give you 2 options either windows 7 or ubuntu
[15:10] <peter__> anyone else getting a bad image for the login screen on natty when logging in from suspend mode?
[15:11] <Fester77> so you mean i more or less win7 installer will detect ubuntu itself and set it up?
[15:11] <chance> g[r]eek if you use a recovery program it could be possible
[15:11] <san_> can anyone please help me
[15:11] <Fester77> no need for extra fixing afterwards
[15:11] <g[r]eek> chance, I'm taking a look at testdisk's photorec as we speak
[15:11] <san_> i cannot upgrade my ubuntu
[15:12] <jayer89> you have ubuntu installed properly and windows 7 yes
[15:12] <pfifo> Fester77, no thats not correct
[15:12] <peter__> san_: what's your problem?
[15:12] <pfifo> Fester77, http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[15:12] <san_> i tried installing 10.04 , 10.10, 11.04 both with cd and usbin every case installer hangs when loading
[15:13] <san_> right now i m in 9.10
[15:13] <peter__> san_: can you update from the update manager?
[15:13] <Fester77> @ pfifo : txh
[15:13] <chance> ok well best of luck to that g[r]eek
[15:13] <g[r]eek> When using PhotoRec on my RAID hard drives, which device should I select? sda? sdb? or md0?
[15:13] <san_> ya but after reboot it hangs
[15:13] <gohdan> !alternate | san_
[15:14] <chance> g[r]eek you can can also edit how rm works and send stuff to a pergatory so to speak that you can easily access and then write a script to do major dumps of that little place
[15:14] <g[r]eek> chance, thanks. It's a last-ditch effort before I resort to re-writing the script. Either way, I've learnt a valuable lesson
[15:14] <chance> but that's precautionary and not solving this problem
[15:14] <san_> gohdan, will i be able to run live? in alternate cd
[15:14] <chance> yah you need to get down with a svn g[r]eek
[15:14] <peter__> san_: ya try the alternate cd. on the downloads page on the ubuntu website it'll show you alternate ways of downloading
[15:15] <chance> i say you rewirte the script, it couldn't be over 50 lines was it?
[15:15] <san_> even i used the original ubuntu cd which i got of 10.04 and 10.10 dint work either
[15:15] <gohdan> san_: its an installer. runs just like debians text mode installer (because it is). not a live cd
[15:15] <g[r]eek> chance nah it was pretty long and complex but I've got a hard-copy of the output so I know how to duplicate it
[15:16] <zwick> g[r]eek: Instead of using svn, use git - it also has svn bindings
[15:16] <chance> g[r]eek that sucks babe i'm sorry
[15:16] <chance> yah git is where its at
[15:16] <peter__> san_: here's the url for the download - http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[15:16] <san_> is ther any other solution? because i want to run it live on cd or usb
[15:16] <cablop> o.O
[15:16] <peter__> san_: aren't you installing it?
[15:17] <chance> doers anyone have some fun gits i can follow and fork around with?  i'm working on diaspora now but i'm always up for new stuff
[15:17] <cablop> san_ what do you want to ccomplish?
[15:17] <zwick> I use git at work and on my own hobby projects
[15:17] <san_> i am sorry i want to install it but i am not sure if it will get installed
[15:17] <san_> then again i will hav to install 9.10
[15:17] <Pici> san_: 9.10 is no longer supported.
[15:17] <peter__> san_: then try the alternate installer
[15:17] <san_> ok
[15:18] <san_> thanks for the support
[15:18] <cablop> san_ to install ubuntu on an old computer?
[15:18] <zwick> you can even set up a free account on Github.com and host your repo's there (with a free account, your repo's will be public though)
[15:18] <gohdan> san_: the textmode installer should work barring any weird or unforeseen driver issues
[15:18] <cablop> how old?
[15:18] <san_> cablop: mine is 4 years old
[15:19] <cablop> i installed natty in a 7 years old computer xD
[15:19] <chance> natty just owned my wireless
[15:19] <cablop> san_ but using the alternate installer
[15:19] <chance> brb
[15:19] <AdvoWork> im doing: du -csh / --max-depth=1  but getting: du: warning: summarizing conflicts with --max-depth=1  but the man page shows that option, any ideas please?
[15:19] <gul> cablop: it worked?
[15:19] <faLUCE> s it possible to pipe echo "foobar" into something like a file that must contain maximum 4 characters? (foob)
[15:19] <gohdan> cablop: using which WM?
[15:20] <cablop> yes it worked, but i want to install ubuntu 10.04 on it, natty is a catastrophe
[15:20] <cablop> gohdan: gnome and compiz
[15:20] <gohdan> gnome has to run like a slug on that thing
[15:20] <gul> cablop: nice
[15:20] <cablop> nope
[15:20] <cablop> some glitches, due to driver issues, but nothing that interferes with work
[15:21] <cablop> now that board is failing and i plugged that natty into an old 1999 board... it is running, but for some reason it is neglegting to work the AGP
[15:21] <cablop> but everything else is ok
[15:22] <pfifo> faLUCE, look into using 'awk' I have no idea how to work it, but I know awk is made for that
[15:22] <cablop> so san_ play safe and grab ubuntu 10.04 and use on it, it is going to work, don't test natty, that unity thing is going to break you in pieces wile trying to work with old video cards... and in my opinion, gnome is jut more than enough in an old computer
[15:22] <gul> cablop: gud try.........it shows the power and flexibility of linux   :)
[15:23] <pfifo> faLUCE, or maybe "| sed 's/\(....\).*/\1/'
[15:23] <kubanc> is there any program in ubuntu for creating photo albums?
[15:23] <cablop> i think the AGP issue is because i'm using natty and those nuveau drivers... but maybe lucid with the proprietary drivers should work fine too
[15:23] <if124> kubanc : shotwell?
[15:24] <psyx> 1337
[15:24] <pfifo> 42
[15:24] <janith> Hi guys...... this is my first IRC chat
[15:24] <edbian> janith: Welcome :)
[15:24] <a_ok> I have just installed unity in ubuntu 11.04 but how do I use it?
[15:25] <pfifo> !yay | janith
[15:25] <riktking> janith: hi and welcome
[15:25] <bullgard4> http://ubuntuforums.org: "Or, Sign in using your LaunchpadID" I have enterd my Launchpad Id as given by my Launchpad account. I obtain: "You have entered an invalid username or password." What goes wrong here?
[15:25] <a_ok> there is no default session
[15:25] <psyx> !75 234!!3 1337 |-|323
[15:25] <cognac-gamma> hi Just obtained my new machine i3 2130M proc 4GB RAM wanna install ubuntu 10.04 or  11.04. both live CD dusring system testing battery capacity is 92.9%...
[15:25] <Pici> !leet | psyx
[15:25] <peter__> a_ok: I had the same problem, but when I updated my graphics card driver unity started on boot
[15:26] <cognac-gamma> shall I be adraid that ubuntu will damage the 6 cell lithium battery?
[15:26] <cablop> san_ grab a lucid live cd and test, if things fail look for the acpi switch before loading the live cd kernel
[15:26] <RA_drc> how do i install firefox 4 on ubuntu 10?
[15:26] <janith> Hey, what is *kick*-P
[15:26] <psyx> nice just nice
[15:26] <edbian> !FF4
[15:26] <edbian> !firefox4
[15:26] <peter__> a_ok: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[15:27] <if124> bullgard4 : click the or, sign in using your launchpad ID link
[15:27] <Pici> janith: http://www.irchelp.org/ might be useful for you.  Keep in mind that #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only.  Random chatter belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:27] <kubanc> if124, it looks like shotwell doesn't wupport tiff format
[15:27] <janith> Thanx Pici
[15:27] <pfifo> cognac-gamma, ubuntu has performed better in regards to not destryoying the laptop batteries that ive had out of all distros and windows
[15:27] <tarvid> typing "2" on my desktop switches DVI output. How can I view and reset the keyboard mappiungs?
[15:29] <Guest88807> okay so i have no clue how to install any programs...such as flash player and winrar or 7 zip...can someone help please?
[15:29] <pfifo> !synaptic | Guest88807
[15:29] <if124> kubanc : search in the software center for imge convert or something
[15:29] <psyx> can somebody explain to me what jabber is?
[15:29] <bullgard4> if124: I will be directed through another two sites and at the end to a form where I am asked to enter a User name and a password. This is no improvement.
[15:29] <blueprin1> celthunder: thanks for all the help, i just needed to restart
[15:29] <peter__> guest88807: go to the ubuntu software center
[15:29] <cablop> jabber is a protocol psyx
[15:29] <Guest88807> thanks mate
[15:29] <psyx> thanks buddy
[15:30] <peter__> guest88807: no prob
[15:30] <gohdan> trying to launch xeyes from the shell logged in as another user results in: "No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0.0".
[15:30] <peter__> anyone else getting a bad image for the login screen on natty when logging in from suspend mode?
[15:30] <IdleOne> bullgard4: the LP username is the email address you used to sign up to launchpad
[15:30] <cablop> psyx for instant messaging, you can set up your own server, a friend did that to set up communications in an intranet or join a public server, google talk technology runs on top of jabber also facebook chat can be accesed via jabber (anyway FB one is unencrypted)
[15:30] <if124> bullgard4 : sorry, i don't have a launchpad account
[15:31] <bullgard4> psyx: Jabber is a protocol which allows you to communicate similar to IRC but with more security and some extras.
[15:31] <misha> is there a tool - to go through directories and reconcile many different copies of potentially the same files - and get it all down to one set? (like reconciling a bunch of backup copies)
[15:31] <pfifo> gohdan, only one user at a time can run graphical apps
[15:31] <janith> Guys, is there a good video converter?(specially i need to change the resolution)
[15:31] <psyx> so why using irc?
[15:31] <Brai805> hola
[15:31] <Brai805> alguien habla español?
[15:31] <Pici> !es | Brai805
[15:31] <gohdan> Pici: beat me to it
[15:32] <pfifo> janith, mencoder, ffmpeg and transcode all come to mind
[15:32] <if124> janith : try looking for arista in the software center
[15:32] <bullgard4> !prefix | psyx
[15:33] <janith> already tried Arista, it suckssss
[15:33] <cognac-gamma> .
[15:33] <psyx> ok that was my first irc session thx for all. just have to read some wiki entries first
[15:34] <psyx> c u all
[15:34] <gohdan> pfifo: i thought X was multiuser and transparent?
[15:34] <tarvid> need help with keyboard mappings. Typing 2 switches DVI output to a mode I don't have.
[15:34] <cablop> ok... now the question is... how to force my ubuntu box to recognize my hardware again? it was working with that video card and now it is refusing to use it well
[15:34] <if124> janith: try googling about ffmpeg change resolution
[15:34] <Xano> In 11.04, what's the correct way of starting, stopping and restarting ssh? /etc/init.d/ssh whines about the commands "start", "stop" etc, but those give me some (for me weird-looking) output and don't do what I want them to do
[15:34] <janith> if124: yeah, trying.......
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[15:35] <edbian> Xano: sudo service sshd [start|stop]
[15:35] <edbian> Might also be a restart there
[15:35] <pfifo> gohdan, x it is, but only the user that started the session can run graphical apps and you can probbally only run one session on your computer
[15:35] <zachlr> anyone know what a touchpad would be under in /lib/modules/.../kernel/drivers?  input, usb, pci, serial, etc.?
[15:35] <janith> i'm leaving guys
[15:36] <Xano> edbian: That gives me "unrecognized service", as does "ssh" instead of "sshd"
[15:36] <cognac-gamma> another i3 intel proc issue:
[15:36] <edbian> Xano: Mmmmm, strange.  Lemme research a bit.
[15:36] <cognac-gamma> md64 10.04 siad timing cached is 402.80Mb/s while i386 of the same release said 3717.60 Mb/s, similiar differences in buffered. Both 64-bit. Why is that?
[15:37] <cognac-gamma> i meant 4020.80
[15:37] <edbian> Xano: Are you sure the package is installed?  I can DEFINITELY start, stop, restart, status, reload, and a couple others ssh  using sudo service ssh
[15:37] <LekeFly> Uhm how i do close fullscreen terminal? :P
[15:37] <if124> LekeFly: try Ctrl-D
[15:37] <iceroot> Xano: dpgk -l openssh-server
[15:38] <Xano> edbian: yes
[15:38] <LekeFly> if124: didnt work :p
[15:38] <edbian> Xano: openssh-server ??
[15:38] <edbian> Xano: Maybe I'll research some more
[15:38] <gohdan> LekeFly: F11?
[15:38] <Xano> edbian: yes
[15:38] <a_ok> peter__: sorry had to step away for a sec.
[15:38]  * Xano kicks Synergy for being a slow and laggy sob
[15:38] <if124> LekeFly: How do you got to an unclosable fullscreen terminal?
[15:38] <a_ok> ah he left...
[15:39] <Zinger> Can anybody  help to me make tune NVIDIA driver in samsung RC710
[15:39] <Xano> iceroot: I definitely have openssh-server installed
[15:39] <bullgard4> Xano: Does System > Administration > System Monitor show a process sshd?
[15:39] <econdudeawesome> Hey all! How do I make a bash script run at startup--not at login, but at startup? (goal is to write a bash script to send me output of ifconfig at startup)
[15:39] <Polah> LekeFly: You probably switched to one of the text-only ttys. Do Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to your graphical interface.
[15:39] <edbian> Whoa, google is down for me righ tnow
[15:39] <rumpe1> econdudeawesome, add it to /etc/rc.local
[15:39] <pfifo> LekeFly, C-M-F1 and C-M-F7 to get back
[15:39] <iceroot> Xano: and you are using a ubuntu-release which is using upstart?
[15:39] <Zinger> Visuall Effect in the laptop with NVIDIA driver RC710 doesn't work
[15:40] <engrxyz> hi, is there any way to upgrade ubuntu 8.04 to something a bit to latest version?
[15:40] <econdudeawesome> rumpe1: thats it? Seems to easy :-)
[15:40] <Xano> iceroot: Don't know what upstart is, but I use 11.04 with the latest updates
[15:40] <Polah> engrxyz: Normal release or LTS?
[15:40] <iceroot> Xano: maybe its called sshd instead of ssh? (dont have ubuntu here to test)
[15:40] <edbian> Xano: Do you have a file: /etc/init.d/ssh    ?
[15:40] <edbian> iceroot: It's ssh on my Debian system.
[15:40] <iceroot> edbian: debian is using upstart?
[15:41] <engrxyz> Polah, : not sure if this is normal release or lts, how do i know that?
[15:41] <Zinger> Help please with NVIDIA driver on laptop samsung RC710
[15:41] <gohdan> iceroot:  yes. since squeeze i think
[15:41] <iceroot> !nvidia | Zinger
[15:41] <bullgard4> Xano: Does System > Administration > System Monitor show a process sshd?
[15:41] <iceroot> gohdan: ok, thank you
[15:41] <Polah> engrxyz, 8.04 is an LTS. I was asking if you want to move up to the latest normal release (11.04) or the latest LTS (10.04)
[15:41] <edbian> iceroot: squeeze uses the sudo service <blah> start syntax yes
[15:42] <engrxyz> Polah, : which one is more better
[15:42] <engrxyz> Polah, : 11.04 is more better i guess? so any clue/tips on how to do that
[15:42] <bullgard4> engrxyz: 10.04
[15:42] <LekeFly> My ubuntu machine frezes at grub or at the brown screen trying to get into ubuntu.. what could be wrong?
[15:42] <Polah> engrxyz: 11.04 is a more up-to-date release, 10.04 is older but it's long-term support. Desktop supports for it expires next year I think though
[15:42] <gohdan> iceroot: although it _may_ be in use only with wheezy, so dont quote me on that. pretty sure since squeeze though.
[15:42] <engrxyz> Polah, : i am using it for server
[15:42] <zgr> hey guys can someone tell me how to remove those indicators (status and messages) at top right of unity panel in 11.04? /usr/share/applications has no indicator-me or smth like it
[15:42] <Lareth> Hello. Is there a problem if I update libusb-1.0.0 in lucid to a greater version (compile from source)?
[15:43] <engrxyz> just don't know how to update this box
[15:43] <Polah> engrxyz: 10.04 then.
[15:43] <econdudeawesome> rumpe1: what extension do I need to save the bash script as? .sh?
[15:43] <iceroot> gohdan: as long as it is not sid :)
[15:43] <edbian> econdudeawesome: .sh is 'shell'  that's appropriate.  Technically you don't need an extension at all.
[15:43] <engrxyz> Polah, : when i did apt-get update i got this "failed to fetch" errors
[15:43] <iceroot> econdudeawesome: no extension
[15:44] <Zinger> ubottu: I have 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[15:44] <pfifo> Lareth, you can install to /urs/local and the LD_LIBRARY_PATH or LD_PRELOAD
[15:44] <Polah> engrxyz, edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades. Check that the line "Prompt=" at the bottom says "Prompt=lts".
[15:44] <econdudeawesome> edbian, iceroot much thanks
[15:44] <iceroot> econdudeawesome: e.g. you call "ping" and not "ping.sh"
[15:44] <edbian> econdudeawesome: sure
[15:44] <iceroot> econdudeawesome: so file-extension is not good
[15:44] <Polah> engrxyz: Then do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and then sudo do-release-upgrade.
[15:44] <Kaspi> hey guys
[15:44] <engrxyz> Polah, : yeah it's there
[15:44] <iceroot> econdudeawesome: you use instead a shebang
[15:44] <Polah> engrxyz: I imaginge that's a network issue then, i.e. it can't contact the servers.
[15:44] <Lareth> pfifo: can you give me some more info please/
[15:45] <Zinger> iceroot: I have 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[15:45] <gohdan> iceroot: why not? debian sid is ubuntu "stable" >:P
[15:45] <engrxyz> Polah, : something like this W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ha/ppa/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net http:
[15:45] <meowsus> I uninstalled wine, but I still have "A Wine Application" file-open options in my context menu when i right-click a file, is there a way to get rid of those?
[15:45] <iceroot> gohdan: and both are unstable..
[15:45] <iceroot> gohdan: but its getting off-topic
[15:45] <Kaspi> Anyone missing window decorations as well?
[15:46] <Polah> engryxyz: The directory /i18n/ doesn't exist there.
[15:46] <econdudeawesome> iceroot: what is a shebang?
[15:46] <b3gott3n> hi
[15:46] <b3gott3n> it's chance here
[15:46] <if124> Kaspi: you lost window decorations? try typing metacity --replace
[15:46] <engrxyz> Polah: in that case how will by any how will i correct it
[15:46] <Polah> engrxyz: Perhaps the PPA is just no longer supported.
[15:46] <b3gott3n> celthunder: still can't get wireless up and running.  going to try to surf the forms... this jus thappened when i installed natty
[15:47] <Polah> engrxyz: Nothing you can really do about that. Does it give you failed to fetch errors on everything it tries to reach?
[15:47] <Polah> b3gott3n: Did you install while connected to the internet, i.e. via ethernet?
[15:47] <pfifo> Lareth, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is an environmental variable that allows you to tell ld-linux and vdso where to search for libraries.
[15:47] <engrxyz> Polah, : something like this 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (194.169.254.10)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.167)]
[15:47] <b3gott3n> Polah: i installed while connected to the internet
[15:48] <Polah> engrxyz: Could you pastebin the output of apt-get update and link me to it?
[15:48] <b3gott3n> Polah: i'm just trying to find a quick fix so i can get an internet connection in natty and repair from there.  now i'm running windows on this machine until i can get wireless going on natty.
[15:48] <ukr_888> Anyone here knows NFS?
[15:48] <engrxyz> Polah, : what's the pastebin uRl here
[15:48] <Polah> meowsus: Delete the *wine* entries in ~/.local/share/applications
[15:48] <pfifo> !anyone | ukr_888
[15:48] <Polah> engrxyz: paste.ubuntu.com
[15:48] <Kaspi> that apparently worked, thanks!
[15:49] <meowsus> Polah, :O
[15:49] <meowsus> Right ON!
[15:50] <pfifo> fpaste.org
[15:50] <Kaspi> Is it possible to remove Unity and use just Xfce?
[15:50] <edbian> Kaspi: yeah
[15:50] <engrxyz> Polah, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/621805/
[15:50] <pfifo> Kaspi, you dont 'have to' remove unity to install xubuntu-desktop
[15:50] <edbian> Kaspi: Just install XFCE (you can have them both installed)
[15:50] <if124> Kaspi: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:50] <Kaspi> well
[15:50] <RA_drc> edbian: thanks
[15:51] <ukr_888> Ah sorry, relatively new to IRC. This is my last resort for answers. I am having issues with mounting NFS on Ubutnu 11.04. My debian server is hosting the NFS shares (4 of them) and when I mount them under ubuntu they are all the same, pointing to the same directory on the server.
[15:51] <edbian> RA_drc: ummmm, sure no problem.
[15:51] <ukr_888> I am using NFSv3
[15:51] <pfifo> ukr_888, does it work correctly on other computers?
[15:51] <Polah> engrxyz, did you install the server edition of 8.04?
[15:52] <Xeph> Anyone have simple beep sound for xchat? default xchat installation doesn't have sound files
[15:52] <Kaspi> I've been using Xfce for some time, now i ran Unity by a mistake and Xfce is all messed up... huge icons, lost decorations (now actually decorations from Gnome), window menus appear in my top panel, settings manager doesn't show any options and so..
[15:52] <econdudeawesome> I would like to set up a server to email me every time it restarts with ifconfig. I have almost everything figured out except the actual mailing part. It says /bin/mail does not exist, but I thought this was standard... what should I use instead?
[15:52] <engrxyz> Polah, : not really sure what this is..but doing a cat /etc/*issue* says Ubuntu 8.04.2
[15:52] <pfifo> !info xchat-common | Xeph
[15:52] <Xeph> oh thanks!
[15:52] <ukr_888> I havent tested, just one server and client
[15:52] <ukr_888> I could try a vm perhaps
[15:53] <econdudeawesome> !info irssi | econdudeawesome
[15:53] <pfifo> ukr_888, test it, could be a possible version mismatch too
[15:53] <Xano> bullgard4: It shows "ssh-agent"
[15:53] <Polah> engrxyz: I'm assuming there is an actual difference between the desktop and server editions. Desktop support was terminated last month for 8.04, which could be the issue now as the archives may no longer be available
[15:53] <zaksoldier> Hi all
[15:54] <pfifo> econdudeawesome, i think your looking for 'sendmail'
[15:54] <engrxyz> Polah, : you mean i got a desktop version?
[15:54] <tucemiux> !hello | zaksoldier
[15:54] <ukr_888> Ok I will try, I got a ubuntu VM already
[15:54] <if124> Kaspi: Did you ran metacity --replace? it's from gnome.
[15:54] <Polah> engrxyz: Maybe, if there's a difference between where the desktop and server editions look for their packages
[15:54] <Kaspi> if124: yeah, added decorations from Gnome :P
[15:54] <engrxyz> Polah, : no other way to get this getting an upgrade?
[15:54] <Xeph> hmm I just check xchat-common for sound files, but there're no installed sound files by xchat-common. weird
[15:55] <Polah> engrxyz: You could just upgrade and then upgrade packages later. sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:55] <econdudeawesome> pfifo: that might work. How do I set it up?
[15:55] <jhojann> muy buenas
[15:55] <if124> Kaspi: Sorry, that's a really bad advice.
[15:55] <tucemiux> igualmente
[15:55] <pfifo> econdudeawesome, should be standard, type 'man sendmail' for the manual as Im not sure how to do what you want
[15:55] <if124> Kaspi: it should be something like xfwm
[15:55] <engrxyz> Polah, : that's command not found
[15:55] <Kaspi> if124: well I can at least close the windows now :)
[15:55] <beefman_> i'm having about 50/50 luck with a usb wireless nic.  sometimes it connects and works great, sometimes it hangs, sometimes it keeps telling me bad password.  Would avahi-daemon have anything to do with it?
[15:56] <jhojann> alguien sabe de un comando de linux que elimine todo el texto de un archivo html por ejemplo entre los tags <script> y </script>   ????
[15:56] <econdudeawesome> pfifo: would it be under /usr/bin or /usr/sbin?
[15:56] <pfifo> econdudeawesome, /usr/bin/sendmail
[15:56] <pfifo> !info sendmail
[15:57] <Bloomz> goes anyone know if it is possible to get an airport express working in Unity?
[15:57] <pfifo> econdudeawesome, 'sudo apt-get install sendmail'
[15:57] <Bloomz> does*
[15:57] <moneedhelp> #ubutun-fr
[15:57] <Polah> engrxyz: That's strange. Do you have update-manager installed? You must do if you had the release settings file, but it could've been removed and the configuration is just still there
[15:57] <tucemiux> beefman_:  wireless works flaky from what I have experienced, it all depends on the hardware you have but once you configure an access point you shouldnt be getting bad password errors, unless youre inputing the passwords by hand
[15:57] <edbian> Xano: ?
[15:57] <engrxyz> Polah, : i even tried "apt-get dist-ugprade" and i still got this "0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (194.169.254.10)]
[15:57] <econdudeawesome> pfifo: are there no included packages for this? It appears that "mail" is a standard bash option, but I cannot find it
[15:57] <pfifo> !info mail
[15:57] <BluesKaj> ukr_888,  the NFS server version for 11.04 should be version 4...NFS can only point to one dir in fstab afaik
[15:57] <Polah> engrxyz: apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade don't upgrade distribution. See this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[15:57] <moneedhelp> #ubuntu-fr
[15:57] <Xano> edbian: What was your last question? I got a phone call and my scrollback is kind of unusable
[15:57] <jhojann> anybody knows a linux commad line that remove text from html file between <script> and </script>  tags ????
[15:57] <ukr_888> ok so I just tried it and it does the same thing. My shares are opened for the whole subnet. My export first on is /home mounted under /home and the second is /mnt/data mounted on /mnt/data but /mnt/data looks just like /home so weird
[15:57] <Polah> engrxyz: Specifically the server upgrade part.
[15:58] <Kaspi> if124: xfwm4 --replace better :P
[15:58] <edbian> Xano: do you have a /etc/init.d/ssh  ?
[15:58] <beefman_> tucemiux: no, i save it.  it works often for a day at a time...  some mornings it just doesn't want to
[15:58] <pfifo> econdudeawesome, i think 'mail' IS part of sendmail lol
[15:58] <Kaspi> if124: thankies!
[15:58] <Kaspi> brb
[15:58] <engrxyz> Polah, : i did try "apt-get install update-manager" ... and i still got this" 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (194.169.254.10)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.166)]
[15:58] <engrxyz> "
[15:58] <Xano> edbian: yes
[15:59] <WuLi> yeow.. updated to 11.4, I think that's the version, and my whole desktop has changed.
[15:59] <edbian> Xano: Can you pastebin the errors you get from sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart  ?
[15:59] <Polah> engrxyz: You want update-manager-core actually, just update-manager will probably try to install all of GNOME. It seems you have a network issue, I can't really help you with it.
[15:59] <beefman_> tucemiux: and since i went from 32bit to 64bit, i occasionally get ifconfig and lsusb hanging
[15:59] <econdudeawesome> engrxyz: try changing your server in Synaptic
[15:59] <beefman_> hanging both wicd and my root terminal
[15:59] <tucemiux> beefman_:  and you actually get a "badd password" prompt?  Sometimes I do a release and it works, other times I turn on my laptop and reboot it, then it works
[15:59] <Kaspi> aha my env is back
[15:59] <Polah> WuLi: That would be Unity. You can use GNOMe by selecting "Ubuntu Classic" at login.
[15:59] <Kaspi> :)
[15:59] <beefman_> yeah it actually says "Bad password"
[15:59] <WuLi> Polah:: excelent, ty!
[15:59] <engrxyz> econdudeawesome, : any clue where to open that
[16:00] <llutz> econdudeawesome: use bsd-mailx and a simple mta like ssmtp/msmtp to send mails
[16:00] <econdudeawesome> engrxyz: "sudo synaptic", then a GUI pops up... hang on
[16:00] <Polah> econdudeawesome, he's running a server environment. Installing a GUI would be counterproductive.
[16:00] <engrxyz> econdudeawesome, : sudo synaptic
[16:00] <engrxyz> sudo: synaptic: command not found
[16:00] <econdudeawesome> llutz: is this a better option than "sendmail"? This is what I'm working from: http://theos.in/shell-scripting/send-mail-bash-script/
[16:00] <tucemiux> beefman_:  maybe youre trying different access points with the same name?  Have you checked to see if youre trying the same access point
[16:00] <Xano> edbian: It whines about using the service utility rather than invoking it through init.d. At the tne dthere;s "ssh start/pre-start, process 3776"
[16:00] <beefman_> no i know it's not that
[16:01] <llutz> econdudeawesome: sendmail is a monster, overkill just to send some system-mails
[16:01] <Polah> engrxyz: Don't install synaptic. It's a graphical package manager and you don't really want a GUI for a server. The actual command would be sudo apt-get install synaptic. However, your machine seems to be unable to contact the Ubuntu archives and repositories.
[16:01] <edbian> Xano: Are they complaining that there is no 'restart' ?
[16:01] <econdudeawesome> Polah: engrxyz if you're running a server, my bad. I was suggesting you change your default repo to something else, but I'm not sure how to do that on a server environment
[16:01] <gigasoft__> ioy89oy89, what?!
[16:01] <econdudeawesome> llutz: so is hte name of the package then bsd-mailx and ssmtp?
[16:02] <WuLi> ah yus, much better.
[16:02] <Polah> econdudeawesome, engrxyz: Repositories are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:02] <llutz> econdudeawesome: yes, simple howto http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/21/sending-email-from-your-system-with-ssmtp/
[16:02] <Xano> edbian: No, just that I shouldn't use init.d for this
[16:02] <econdudeawesome> llutz: much thanks
[16:02] <edbian> Xano: But sudo service ssh says what again?
[16:02] <sabayonweb_56278> Hi, I have a clean install of 11.04 amd64. After install I ran 'sudo get update and upgrade'. I now get a 'mountall Disconnect from Plymouth' error at boot and no window manager, please help.
[16:02] <engrxyz> Polah, : apt-get install synaptic and then.... Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[16:03] <engrxyz> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (194.169.254.10)]
[16:03] <Xano> edbian: "can't shit that many"
[16:03] <Polah> engrxyz: No. Don't install Synaptic.
[16:03] <engrxyz> Polah, : it won't even install though
[16:03] <edbian> Xano: pardon me?
[16:03] <pfifo> inb4 !language
[16:03] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278: sounds like an ugly error, can you get into failsafe mode ?
[16:03] <Polah> engrxyz: I told you. Network issue, I can't help you with it
[16:03] <engrxyz> Polah, : Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[16:03] <engrxyz> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (194.169.254.10)]
[16:03] <mneptok> Xano: whatch the language.
[16:03] <mneptok> -h
[16:04] <Xano> edbian: Shift, I said shift!
[16:04] <Xano> :P
[16:04] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux: at boot?
[16:04] <edbian> Xano: You can't shift that many?
[16:04] <edbian> Xano: the man page for service says all it does is look in /etc/init.d/  for scripts.
[16:04] <Xano> edbian: No, "sudo service ssh" can't
[16:04] <jpds> engrxyz: There is a problem with your internet connection, try tracing the IP with: tracepath 194.169.254.10
[16:04] <jpds> engrxyz: And paste the output at pastebin.ubuntu.com
[16:04] <tucemiux> engrxyz: youre trying to upgrade from your home or someone else's network?  Looks like the problem is the repos are blocked in your network
[16:04] <edbian> Xano: sudo service ssh    can't 'shift that many' ?   What does that mean?
[16:05] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278: yes, when your machine boots up, does it go to a point where you see a menu and can pick failsafe mode?
[16:05] <fiftyeight> hello
[16:05] <engrxyz> yeah i believe so it seems to be blocked
[16:05] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux - no it just boots automatically - I don't get into menus. I can get into the command line if that'll help.
[16:06] <tucemiux> engrxyz: youre trying to upgrade from the library or at work, maybe ?
[16:06] <cablop> i am using the proprietary drivers for my broadcom, i mean the STA ones, they say my signal is poorer than what the b43 says... but, the b43 page says the support for my broadcom is uncomplete
[16:06] <Roasted_> Has anybody added Ubuntu file server to a Windows domain? Permissions wise it's proving to be a headache. Currently "domain admins" has RWX permissions to a folder yet Ubuntu won't let any domain admins read/write to that folder in question.
[16:06] <fiftyeight> is there someone here to help with ubuntu crashing on boot?
[16:06] <Polah> sabayonweb_56278, hold shift during boot and it'll give you a GRUB menu. You should be able to boot into recovery mode from there.
[16:06] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278: if you can get into the command line then see if you have online access and try upgrading from there
[16:06] <sabayonweb_56278> thanks Polah, let me see
[16:06] <pfifo> cablop, is it complete enough for what you need todo? if so the use it
[16:07] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux
[16:07] <sabayonweb_56278> i'm online
[16:07] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux - I am indeed online - it's just that I don't have any window managers - and I have no idea what plymouth is
[16:07] <ukr_888> Could portmap be responsible for crossing nfs exports and making them all identical pointing to one directory on the server?
[16:07] <tucemiux> !ask | fiftyeight
[16:07] <cablop> pfifo what is b43, if sta are the prop[rietary ones what is b43 then?
[16:07] <pfifo> cablop, im assuming some open source alternative
[16:07] <econdudeawesome> llutz: so what is the /usr/bin/mail thing I've been seeing and used on a Redhat server? Is that not included with ubuntu?
[16:07] <Polah> sabayonweb_56278, Plymouth provides a graphical boot screen, unless I'm mistaken.
[16:08] <gohdan> pfifo: it does appear that one can indeed luanch X applications in the manner i was previously attempting. the limitation seemed to be with the "magic cookie"
[16:08] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278:  try upgrading first, get all the updates, reboot, then you figure out how to get a GUI
[16:08] <sabayonweb_56278> Polah - can I kill it then?
[16:08] <pfifo> !info plymouth | sabayonweb_56278
[16:08] <cablop> pfifo mmm :( usually open source drivers are worst than proprietary ones... :S
[16:08] <Polah> sabayonweb_56278, not sure what goes on without it. I wouldn't. Reinstall maybe, not total removal
[16:08] <llutz> econdudeawesome: there are many different packages providing that, its just a symlink in most cases.
[16:09] <econdudeawesome> llutz: I see
[16:09] <pfifo> gohdan, ohh, good to know, thanks
[16:09] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux - ok, let me see - polah - so update and upgrade, right? no specific packages?
[16:09] <zaksoldier> !info
[16:09] <llutz> econdudeawesome: on my debian-squeeze servers its a symlink to  /etc/alternatives/mail which links to /usr/bin/bsd-mailx
[16:09] <pfifo> gohdan, what di you have todo?
[16:09] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux - it's holding back 4 packages
[16:09] <Xano> edbian I don't know what it means. It's just what it gives me
[16:09] <fiftyeight> wow, the IRC came back it was stuck or something
[16:10] <gohdan> pfifo: i found a script in the repo called "sux". cleaner and more robust version of this dirty hack http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-X-Apps-7.html
[16:10] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278: just update and upgrade first, something obviously broke your distro, so just update and upgrade, then fix whatever's not working, it happened to me before
[16:10] <sabayonweb_56278> i've done that
[16:10] <sabayonweb_56278> rebooted twice as well tucemiux
[16:10] <gohdan> pfifo: thanks for you help though
[16:10] <myke2> I have a problem of font.
[16:10] <fiftyeight> it there a chance someone will help with ubuntu crashing on boot?
[16:11] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278: it's hold back 4 packages? what's the error youre seeing, all in one line pleae
[16:11] <tucemiux> !ask | fiftyeight
[16:11]  * gohdan felt like i was trying to pass the debian desert island test!
[16:12] <zaksoldier> !info Compiz fusion | zaksoldier
[16:13] <zaksoldier> cool
[16:13] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux: the Plymouth error is gone now last line on reboot now :"saned disabled: edit /etc/default/saned'
[16:13] <b3gott3n_> does anyone have a forum or somewhere where i can read up on how to fix my wireless connection natty?  i've tried a bunch of things and i only have one computer so i'm switching between OSs to gather info.
[16:13] <Logan_> !info compiz-fusion >zaksoldier
[16:14] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278:  you mean you still dont get a GUI?  It gets stuck booting up and all the last line you see if "edit /etc/default/saned"??
[16:14] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux: on logging in on command line and trying gdm restart as root :"Warning: failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager'
[16:14] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux: yes, still no gui
[16:15] <econdudeawesome> If I haven't logged in right away, can I still use ssmtp in a startup script?
[16:15] <tucemiux> b3gott3n_: you can start with linux journal's segment on wireless
[16:16] <b3gott3n_> tucemiux: i 'm reading this one:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo  is that what youre talking about?
[16:16] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278: can you get into a command prompt? if you can then fix your GUI, there's plenty of howtos in the web
[16:16] <econdudeawesome> llutz: If I haven't logged in right away, can I still use ssmtp in a statup script? Goal is on server restart to email myself a copy of ifconfig
[16:17] <private_meta> What is the "/etc/profile" equivalent on ubuntu?
[16:17] <private_meta> ah
[16:17] <b3gott3n_> brb
[16:17] <private_meta> profile IS available on ubuntu
[16:17] <th^^>  /etc/profile? ;)
[16:17] <private_meta> >_<
[16:17] <private_meta> damn me
[16:17] <tucemiux> b3gott3n_: nope, the article on linux journal shows you how to scan and stuff, the very first thing you need to know is "iwconfig" -- that way you know your wireless NIC is being detected, if it's not the first step is to install the drivers
[16:18] <sabayonweb_56278> thanks tucimeux
[16:18] <b3gott3n_> thanks tucemius: i know iwconfig, it looks like my card isn't setup so i'm trying that angle... something went wonky when i installed natty
[16:18] <llutz> econdudeawesome: sure, you'll need just to configre ssmtp for a mail-hub (gmail or whatever you want), then create a cron-job "@reboot ifconfig|mail -s rebooted"
[16:18] <fiftyeight> Question: when I turn on the PC ubuntu shows the loading screen that after about a minute it sitches to a black screen that shows lots of lines of text including "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at f8c84848"
[16:18] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278: if youre still having problems, come back to the channel and ask away, if someone has an answer theyll help you
[16:19] <llutz> econdudeawesome: sure, you'll need just to configre ssmtp for a mail-hub (gmail or whatever you want), then create a cron-job "@reboot ifconfig|mail -s rebooted you@example.com"   sry, email missing
[16:19] <josinalvo> Hi. When I umount my kindle via nautilus, it works fine. However, when I 'umount' or 'eject' via cli, it stays in the "USB Drive Mode". Any ideas ?
[16:19] <sabayonweb_56278> tucemiux
[16:20] <sabayonweb_56278> i'm going for reinstall
[16:20] <sabayonweb_56278> screw the updates - thanks for your help
[16:20] <marcello_> Hi guys
[16:20] <tucemiux> b3gott3n_:  first make sure your wireless is turned on, if you have dual boot then login to windows, make sure wireless is turned on, then boot again into ubuntu, if still no luck then search on the web for your particular wireless card and ubuntu
[16:20] <econdudeawesome> llutz: do I need to manually create the symlink for mail then?
[16:20] <tucemiux> sabayonweb_56278: it's easy
[16:20] <pfifo> sabayonweb_56278, I just fixed what your describing I think
[16:20] <econdudeawesome> llutz: also, to create the cron job, i type in explicity what you wrote: 'cron-job "@reboot..."'
[16:20] <llutz> econdudeawesome: shouldn't be needed if you install bsd-mailx
[16:20] <braiam> why instead of «á» in the terminal apear «Ã¡», i already have the console in utf-8
[16:20] <zaksoldier> !info Compiz | zaksoldier
[16:20] <econdudeawesome> llutz: k
[16:21] <llutz> econdudeawesome: yes "man 5 crontab"
[16:21] <econdudeawesome> llutz: thanks again
[16:21] <sabayonweb_56278> pfifo - how?
[16:21] <braiam> !info compiz
[16:21] <marcello_> Who knows how to pass from I
[16:21] <braiam> zaksoldier: ↑
[16:21] <marcello_> F-spot to Shotwell?
[16:21] <zaksoldier> Ok ok thanks man
[16:22] <fiftyeight>  QUESTOPN: when I turn on the PC ubuntu shows the loading screen that after about a minute it sitches to a black screen that shows lots of lines of text including "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at f8c84848"
[16:22] <ssfdre40> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   ssfdre40 jburkholder42 mrklaw m3t4lukas sabiancrash_cgx marcello_ ckrailo guntbert E1596 tomog999_ Logan__ zaksoldier RavenMad josinalvo Roasted margo jahil1 M
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[16:22] <ssfdre40> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   Guest88807 lidb wonderworld alexlev Sansui350A_ n00blet cognac-gamma Xeph Silowyi zenguy_vm localhost1 MUILTFN digilink metatagg base698 T_X cablop valleydaddy
[16:22] <pfifo> sabayonweb_56278, `sudo mv /home/pfifo /home/backup && sudo cp -a /etc/skel /home/pfifo && chown pfifo:pfifo /home/pfifo`
[16:22] <t4k3sh1> :/
[16:22] <cablop> waddafuuuu?
[16:22] <t4k3sh1> spam
[16:22] <DirtyDawg> ignore the message
[16:23] <t4k3sh1> btw it isnt true
[16:23] <Roasted> SASL sounds pretty legit imho
[16:23] <t4k3sh1> just ignore it
[16:23] <pfifo> SASL is legit, but you dont need it for freenode
[16:23] <sabayonweb_56278> new skeleton folder pfifo?
[16:23] <t4k3sh1> but the nickalert is annoying :/
[16:23] <pfifo> sabayonweb_56278, i basically deleted my home folder
[16:23] <zaksoldier> Huh! For is this massage
[16:23] <fiftyeight> HELP: when I turn on the PC ubuntu shows the loading screen that after about a minute it sitches to a black screen that shows lots of lines of text including "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at f8c84848"
[16:24] <cablop> what's sasl?
[16:24] <photon> my computer reset for no apparent reason while I was away. What log files would I have to consult in order to figure out what exactly happened?
[16:24] <DirtyDawg> well its intended that everyone annoys the staff, its a feindish plan
[16:24] <zaksoldier> For who* is this massage
[16:24] <Pici> cablop: Its an optional authentication method for connecting things.
[16:24] <Pici> zaksoldier: Its spam, ignore it.
[16:24] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to make some custom keyboard shortcuts using the meta key.   I use Meta+Z, Meta+X, Meta+C, and Meta+V   to switch workspaces.   Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be working.   My hunch is that unity is stealing the Meta key, but I'm not sure.  Any ideas?
[16:24] <cablop> oh
[16:24] <cablop> ok
[16:24]  * pfifo asks freenode staff about sals daily
[16:24] <tucemiux> fiftyeight: can you get to a terminal? press ctrl-alt-f2 or ctrl-alt-f3
[16:24] <braiam> zaksoldier: ↑
[16:24] <zaksoldier> Ohhhhh ok
[16:24] <fiftyeight> ok i'm tring
[16:24] <xskydevilx> How would I play QuickTime videos on the web (such as the Apple Events at http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/ ) ?
[16:25] <braiam> zaksoldier: sry
[16:25] <braiam> why instead of «á» in the terminal apear «Ã¡», i already have the console in utf-8
[16:25] <cablop> what is ndiswrapper?
[16:25] <zaksoldier> Huh! ^ < >
[16:25] <pfifo> cablop, it is a program that allows you to use drivers from other operating systems in linux
[16:25] <tucemiux> xskydevilx: go into the software center and search for quicktime
[16:26] <zaksoldier> !info ndiswrapper
[16:26] <cablop> mmm
[16:26] <econdudeawesome> llutz: does cron require login, or simply startup? No one here to login when it reboots :-)
[16:26] <cablop> but it seems hard to use
[16:26] <cablop> no, i need my broadcom working
[16:26] <llutz> econdudeawesome: no login required
[16:26] <cablop> if i use the original sTA driver the signal is damn poor
[16:26] <fiftyeight> tucemiux: now when I rebooted ubuntu works, is there a way to find out what went wong because it happens often
[16:26] <econdudeawesome> llutz: thanks
[16:26] <cablop> but if i use the b43 one then things works for a while then suddenly stop to work and i never noticed it
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !broadcom  | cablop
[16:27] <pfifo> cablop, its easy to use, you just need to commit to learning how to use it, seperate our learning part form the broadcom part
[16:27] <cablop> i need my wlan on all the time cause this is my communication computer :(
[16:27] <xskydevilx> tucemiux, I apperantly got them installed already, however when I go to apple.com, none of the videos play. I'm using Google Chrome BTW.
[16:27] <zaksoldier> !info ndiswrapper |
[16:27] <cablop> o.O
[16:27] <photon> my computer reset for no apparent reason while I was away. What log files would I have to consult in order to figure out what exactly happened?
[16:27] <zaksoldier> Where in natty
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Cablop: when it drops, run: dmesg | tail     it may give clues
[16:28] <braiam> zaksoldier: apt-cache search ndsi-wrapper
[16:28] <sabayonweb_56278> pfifo - no luck with that either - still get mountall: Disconnected from plymouth - thanks for trying
[16:28] <pfifo> !!info ndiswrapper-dkms | zaksoldier
[16:28] <pfifo> !info ndiswrapper-dkms | zaksoldier
[16:28] <Ph03b3> Hello. I've been wondering where the icons for folders and the like are saved for the ubuntu-mono-dark icon set.
[16:28] <zaksoldier> Ok thanks man
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Cablop: may want to disable ipv6 if you don't use it
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> zaksoldier: just use ndisgtk its way easier
[16:29] <zaksoldier> Ok thanks ActionParsnip
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Ph03b3: try: sudo find / -name "*.png" | grep -i mono
[16:31] <cablop> ActionParsnip: mmm how to disable ipv6?
[16:31] <zaksoldier> Is ubottu a bot
[16:31] <Pici> zaksoldier: yes.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Cablop: add the boot option: ipv6.disable=1
[16:32] <zaksoldier> Ok cool that's why he write fast
[16:32] <Ph03b3> ActionParsnip, is there a reason I can't open the index.theme?
[16:32] <Ph03b3> I can't even select with which programm to open it.
[16:32] <cablop> ActionParsnip: will it solve the issue?
[16:32] <econdudeawesome> llutz: is this right for the cron job:@reboot "ifconfig|mail -s subject mail@mail.com"
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Ph03b3: it should be user readable at least afaik
[16:33] <pfifo> Ph03b3, try 'tar xzf index.theme' or 'tar xjf index.theme'
[16:33] <cablop> i mean, the power signal issue?... i cannot see the relation between ipv6 and the wifi signal...
[16:33] <cablop> not clearly
[16:33] <fiftyeight> when I turned on the PC ubuntu went to a black screen after loading for about a minute, the black screen states "unable to handle kernel paging request at f8c84848", when I restarted ubuntu works, can someone tell me how I make sure it doesn't happen again
[16:33] <sontek> I just installed ubuntu 11.04 and ran the latest updates and ten rebooted and now it freezes after saying "PulseAUdio configured for per user sessions"  "saned disabled: edit /etc/default/saned"
[16:33] <sontek> and never boots
[16:33] <llutz> econdudeawesome: @reboot "/sbin/ifconfig|/usr/bin/mail -s subject mail@mail.com"      just to make sure, things were found
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Cablop: it can in some cases. I've also seen folks have to disable N speed on their wireless
[16:34]  * zaksoldier will go 
[16:34] <nawk> I broke my WM simply by checkboxing desktop cube and ignoring the conflicts between compiz and the ubuntu unity plugin in CompizConfig Settings Manager
[16:34] <nawk> now, I don't have a WM
[16:34] <zeny> Is there an asynchronous version of wget for ubuntu? I need to download many small files and it takes forever with wget.
[16:34] <Ph03b3> What does afaik mean?
[16:34] <LjL> as far as i know
[16:34] <Ph03b3> And the commands don't work.
[16:34] <nawk> No frames, windows are static (non-relocatable)
[16:34] <Ph03b3> Alright.
[16:35] <pfifo> as far as i know afaik means as far as i know
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Ph03b3: as far as I know
[16:35] <zaksoldier> !info afaik
[16:35] <nawk> Can someone help me get my Window Manager back?
[16:35] <zaksoldier> Ok ubottu
[16:35] <econdudeawesome> llutz: how do I make sure cron starts at startup? It doesn't appear to work...
[16:35] <pfifo> !msgthebot > zaksoldier
[16:35] <Ph03b3> ActionParsnip, The error that it returns is: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Nawk: press Alt+F2 and run: name --replace     change name to the actual wm you use
[16:36] <llutz> econdudeawesome: should be running after boot. have you tried the command manually, to make sure it works?
[16:36] <econdudeawesome> llutz: yes
[16:36] <pfifo> Ph03b3, maybe try this 'sqlite3 index.theme "list tables;"'
[16:36] <llutz> econdudeawesome: how did you setup the cron-job?
[16:37] <econdudeawesome> llutz: crontab -e, then put it in
[16:37] <fiftyeight> when I turned on the PC ubuntu went to a black screen after loading for about a minute, the black screen states "unable to handle kernel paging request at f8c84848", when hi, I restarted ubuntu works, can someone tell me how I make sure it doesn't happen again
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Ph03b3: what sort of file do the command: file     say it is?
[16:37] <econdudeawesome> llutz: added a line that said:
[16:37] <zaksoldier> Thanks pfifo
[16:37] <vortex> hey guys, does anyone have any good tips on making ubuntu secure?
[16:37] <photon> my computer reset for no apparent reason while I was away. What log files would I have to consult in order to figure out what exactly happened?
[16:37] <szal> vortex: define "secure"
[16:38] <photon> vortex: what is your threat model?
[16:38] <nawk>  ActionParsnip: I tried "compiz --replace" but it doesn't fix the problem.
[16:38] <Xeph> Are there any ways to put Indicator Applet on Docky instead of gnome-panel? I want to completely hide gnome-panel, but I need the indicator.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> fiftyeight: have you tested your RAM?
[16:38] <vortex> like enhanced security ie harden the kernel stuff like that
[16:38] <econdudeawesome> @reboot "/sbin/ifconfig|/usr/bin/mail -s test mail@mail.com"
[16:38] <nawk> The frames are still missing
[16:38] <econdudeawesome> llutz: @reboot "/sbin/ifconfig|/usr/bin/mail -s test mail@mail.com"
[16:38] <fiftyeight> ActionParsnip: can you tell hi I do that?
[16:38] <llutz> econdudeawesome: sounds right, add a 2nd line "@reboot /bin/date >/tmp/crontest"  and reboot. check if that files will be created
[16:38] <Ph03b3> ActionParsnip,  ASCII text, with very long lines
[16:39] <Ph03b3> pfifo, It seems I don't have that installed. I'll install it later, if nothing else works.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> fiftyeight: hold shift at boot then select memtest
[16:39] <econdudeawesome> llutz: do I need to "sudo crontab -e"?
[16:39] <pfifo> Ph03b3, well in that case it CANT be a sqlite3 database :D
[16:39] <llutz> econdudeawesome: nope, crontab -e    edits YOUR user-crontab
[16:39] <Ph03b3> pfifo, Oh, ok.
[16:39] <fiftyeight> ActionParsnip:  ok, I hold shift when the ubuntu screen comes up?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Nawk: try metacity instead
[16:40] <Ph03b3> pfifo, I think it's just a text file.
[16:40] <econdudeawesome> llutz: the file was written
[16:40] <julie> vortex, from the little information you provide, the best you can do is just configure your firewall (iptables)
[16:40] <econdudeawesome> llutz: just no email
[16:40] <Emmanuel_Chanel> hi
[16:40] <vortex> julie maybe encrypt the entire harddrive on boot or just the home folder?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> fiftyeight: as soon as the system starts to boot
[16:40] <Ph03b3> pfifo, but I'm pretty sure it links to the place where I can find the icons for folders et c.
[16:40] <julie> vortex, it really depends what you want to do
[16:40] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I feel my HDD of this Ubuntu PC decrease its space suddenly. Better to check by the diagnostic program?
[16:41] <fiftyeight> ActionParsnip: ok I'll try and tell you what happens, thanx
[16:41] <julie> vortex: if you are configuring an enterprise server, then yes user level encryption could be a good idea
[16:42] <vortex> julie its my desktop pc but i just want a lot of security
[16:42] <vortex> i dont use a lot of apps that have remote acccess
[16:42] <Ph03b3> pfifo,  I just don't get why I can't open it. If I view it in nautilus in the  icon view I can actually see the beginnings of the text! It just always wants to open it as a folder and doesn't let me choose how to open it.
[16:42] <julie> it won't be more secure unless you're really worried about someone taking out your hard drive to check it
[16:42] <pfifo> vortex, root/swap/home encrption method is easy to setup, might as well use it
[16:42] <vortex> julie know any good shredder program that securely deletes files then overwrites with data several times?
[16:43] <llutz> econdudeawesome: where do you send the mail to, your own server? check logs if mail is rejected
[16:43] <vortex> pfifo is that the default one that comes with ubuntu when you configure it? cause i tried it once and it didnt work
[16:43] <julie> vortex, sorry I don't
[16:43] <photon> vortex: that is useless. use full disk encryption.
[16:43] <pfifo> vortex, no you have to use the alternate installer
[16:44] <photon> vortex: the harddrive might have had a couple of bad sectors which it remapped. and you'd be overwriting the new sectors, instead of the bad ones.
[16:44] <fiftyeight> ActionParsnip: I have two options for memcheck86, one just memcheck86, and one memcheck86 serial console 115200
[16:45] <vortex> photon is there a ubuntu wiki on full disk ecyption?
[16:45] <llutz> econdudeawesome: try removing the quotes from the command, but i doubt it matters. i tested it here, works
[16:45] <econdudeawesome> llutz: ok
[16:46] <econdudeawesome> llutz: the mail is not rejected while testing, sending through gmail
[16:46] <fiftyeight> ActionParsnip: I have two options for memcheck86, one just memcheck86, and one memcheck86 serial console 115200
[16:47] <pfifo> fiftyeight, use the plain memtest
[16:47] <szal> !repeat | fiftyeight
[16:47] <photon> vortex: I am sure there is, just google for it. you find tons of resources on it.
[16:48] <vortex> photon do you use any firewalls or iptables?
[16:48] <Pici> !truecrypt | vortex
[16:49] <photon> Pici: last I heard it only supports system encryption for windows.
[16:49] <julie> vortex, it is a good idea to configure iptables if you don't have a router
[16:49] <vortex> thanks pici
[16:49] <julie> it is not that complicated
[16:50] <econdudeawesome> llutz: I just wrote it as a small bash script with update-rc.d, and it works now
[16:50] <econdudeawesome> thanks!
[16:50] <llutz> econdudeawesome: fine, i still wonder what was wrong with the cronjob...
[16:51] <vortex> pici im not sure trucrypt is a gd idea
[16:51] <pfifo> vortex, its not
[16:51] <oleg> hi
[16:51] <Pici> vortex: I personally think its a bit overkill
[16:51] <pfifo> vortex, your looking for md-crypt an LUKS
[16:51] <econdudeawesome> llutz: more than likely I had a nonobvious typo in the email address or soemthing of the sort. I deleted the cron-job so I;'m not all that sure
[16:52] <llutz> econdudeawesome: my  cronjob       "*/5 * * * * /sbin/ifconfig | mail -s test lutz@example.com"   runs fine
[16:52] <Guest25573> q
[16:52] <vortex> thanks pfifo and Pici u can never be too overkill just look what happend to the RSA hack and attackso n Sony, Lockheed Martin and other firms
[16:52] <econdudeawesome> llutz: I did not have that at the beginning, just @reboot
[16:52] <julie> vortex, fs encryption causes a lot of overhead for sure
[16:52] <econdudeawesome> llutz: no */5 * * * *
[16:52] <pfifo> llutz, how did you get that email addy at example.com? I want!
[16:53] <llutz> econdudeawesome:  @reboot is fine, i just can't reboot my server for testing so i set it up to send every 5 min
[16:53] <julie> vortex, if you just want to hide files from your spouse, you could setup a partition which would simply get mounted or unmounted on demand
[16:53] <llutz> pfifo: you don't want, you'll never get mail i fear
[16:53] <jpds> vortex: Whatever happens, you're never going to be 100% secure.
[16:54] <pfifo> llutz, atleast it would be spamfree
[16:54] <econdudeawesome> llutz: :-) I understand
[16:54] <llutz> pfifo: for sure
[16:54] <vortex> exit
[16:54] <econdudeawesome> llutz: thanks again
[16:54] <vortex> quit
[16:54] <julie> lol @vortex
[16:54] <Zinger> How is with laptop samsung RC710. I have problem with Vissual Effect
[16:55] <pfifo> julie, i have full disk encryption, overhead isnt too noticeable
[16:55] <Zinger> Also I have problem with adding second monitor to the laptop
[16:56] <julie> pfifo, that's because you don't do a lot of heavy disk access
[16:56] <pfifo> julie, bittorrent
[16:56] <Zinger> Please need help about driver and it tuning
[16:57] <julie> pfifo, it probably takes a good amount of additional CPU which would be hard for you to compare though
[16:58] <sipior> julie: modern systems handle full-disk encryption remarkably well. there is a performance penalty, of course, but it's hardly crippling.
[16:58] <Zinger> Please help about RC710 video driver.
[16:58] <Zinger> Please help about laptop Samsung RC710 video driver.
[16:58] <pfifo> julie, dual core 2.6 ghz and sata 7200 drive, only performance hit i get is when i use swap... it seems to take up additional memory though, but thats not a bid issue
[16:59] <Roasted> Does Ubuntu have any sensible tools for managing this OS as a file server on a Windows domain?
[16:59] <julie> pfifo, sipior:  it really depends what you use your system for....  I actually do a lot of huge batch jobs which would be drastically impacted by this
[17:00] <sipior> julie: probably not as much as you think. if it bothers you, simply don't use it.
[17:00] <Zinger> I 3 day don't find help on my question about video driver for Samsung RC710 laptop
[17:01] <julie> sipior, I'm just providing input based on my 10 years of performance optimization professional experience...  if you don't have any CPU bottleneck you can easily disregard my comment
[17:01] <sipior> julie: performance optimization professional experience, eh?
[17:01]  * sipior chuckles
[17:01] <julie> yes
[17:02] <julie> sipior, I've taken jobs which took 5 days to run and got them to run in 10 hours
[17:02] <julie> on the same hardware
[17:02] <tvbox> Hi.  I have a problem with getting surround sound to work on lucid.  Can someone help me, please?
[17:02] <polm> I'm trying to install Sun's jdk on a headless remote node.
[17:02] <Zinger> Help please tune video driver on Laptop samsung rc710
[17:03] <polm> It keeps trying to prompt me as part of postinst with some dialog I can't see.
[17:04] <starZ> hi all, I'm on natty (eeepc) trying to connect seq24 to amsynth using jackd.. but with no success.. do you have any id ??
[17:05] <starZ> hi all, I'm on natty (eeepc) trying to connect seq24 to amsynth using jackd.. but with no success.. do you have any idea ??
[17:06] <starZ> is there any jacd dude in here?
[17:06] <starZ> is there any jackd dude in here?
[17:07] <econdudeawesome> does anyone have a favorite CLI IM client? Finch seems to want to install just about everything for gnome
[17:07] <julie> sorry starZ but I doubt you'll ever find anyone here that's been through that same problem
[17:07] <llutz> econdudeawesome: bitlbee + irssi
[17:08] <b0ot_linux> Is there a way to combine an ubuntu install with a bash script so that it gets ran immediately on install? I currently install a fresh install of ubuntu, then copy/paste a folder over with all my packages etc and then run a bash script that configures everything and then delete the intstall folder.. I would like to get this all down to one step.
[17:08] <econdudeawesome> llutz: does that support XMPP?
[17:08] <llutz> econdudeawesome: it does
[17:08] <starZ> julie: is there any room for that?
[17:08] <julie> starZ, not that I know of
[17:08] <llutz> econdudeawesome: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html
[17:08] <lachfome> how i can found my pcmci card
[17:08] <econdudeawesome> llutz: then do I run irssi or bitlbee? :-)
[17:09] <llutz> econdudeawesome: both :)
[17:09] <starZ> julie: what is it? hell?
[17:09] <sipior> starZ: there is a #jack here on freenode. probably worth a look.
[17:09] <starZ> sipior: thx dude!!
[17:09] <econdudeawesome> llutz: cool deal, I'll check it out
[17:09] <llutz> econdudeawesome: you use bitlbee to connect to im-networks and use irssi to connect to bitlbee (kind of a frontedn)
[17:10] <econdudeawesome> llutz: ah that makes sense. Does the "buddy list" work the same?
[17:10] <llutz> econdudeawesome: if you add all your contacts, yes.
 ActionParsnip: you still here?
[17:11] <fiftyeight> ActionParsnip: are you still here?
[17:11] <julie> starZ, http://www.orford.org/assets/jack.php might help you out
[17:12] <lachfome> how i can get list of my pcmci cards
[17:13] <starZ> julie: oh my love.. (hope you're not a boy..) :)
[17:13] <julie> starZ, :)
[17:14] <llutz> lachfome: cardctl ident
[17:14] <julie> lachfome, don't you see it with "lspci"?
[17:16] <crisp_chunks> I am running ubuntu 10.10 on a thinkpad r61i, and ubuntu 10.04 on a desktop computer. For some reason both of these system only play sound on one of the speakers. Anyone heard of this before?
[17:16] <julie> crisp_chunks, did you make sure that mixer balance is fine?
[17:16] <crisp_chunks> yes
[17:17] <K4k> Has anyone ever seen the following error from evolution? I get it when I try to index my mail. All folders sync except INBOX. http://pastebin.ca/2076806
[17:17] <julie> crisp_chunks, are you sure both speakers work fine?
[17:17] <K4k> This started after we did a domain migration this past weekend.
[17:18] <Xano> What's the shortcut for closing applications? I found an article that says ctrl+q, but that doesn't do anything here
[17:18] <julie> crisp_chunks, most often this kind of problem is related to the physical connection
[17:18] <K4k> Xano: alt+f4
[17:18] <crisp_chunks> It would be odd if both the speakers in the laptop and those connected to the desktop were broke.
[17:18] <Xano> K4k: thanks
[17:18] <crisp_chunks> I have also made the laptop play in the 'broken' one once by sliding the balance back and forth
[17:19] <julie> crisp_chunks:  do you at least have a mp3 player to test the desktop speakers to make sure?
[17:19] <Omega> Xano: alt-f4 works everywhere, ctrl-q is pretty common too, but some applications lack it
[17:19] <crisp_chunks> Also, the radio connected to the desktop speakers play fine (same reciever)
[17:19] <julie> hmmm
[17:19] <crisp_chunks> cd's play fine also
[17:19] <jayer89_> hey guys
[17:20] <p896gbm> hi folks, getting a 404 error trying to install flashplugin-installer
[17:20] <p896gbm> seems the flash plugin has gone missing
[17:20] <p896gbm> anybody else having this problem?
[17:20] <julie> crisp_chunks, if CDs play fine, then it's related to the software you're using
[17:20] <crisp_chunks> or the cable from the computer...
[17:20] <crisp_chunks> although i doubt it..
[17:20] <crisp_chunks> I will check..
[17:20] <crisp_chunks> sec.
[17:20] <FloodBot1> crisp_chunks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <crisp_chunks> enter rocks as punctuation :p
[17:21] <julie> floodBot is in a bad mood :)
[17:22] <fiftyeight> HELp: ubuntu reverts to black screen after being in loading screen for about a minute, and writes: "unable to handle kernel paging request at f8c84848"
[17:23] <PharaohSD> p896gbm: check https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7
[17:23] <crisp_chunks> ok.. seems like both laptop speaker and cable is broken....
[17:23] <PharaohSD> flash works normallly with my 64bit ubuntu
[17:23] <julie> crisp_chunks, I'm not surprised
[17:23] <crisp_chunks> although I dont understand how I made the laptop speaker work once then
[17:24] <julie> probably a loose connection
[17:24] <crisp_chunks> possibly
[17:24] <p896gbm> PharaohSD: it's cool, i'm just gonna download the latest straight from adobe
[17:24] <crisp_chunks> any way to make ubuntu output mono?
[17:24] <julie> fiftyeight, this could well be a hard drive problem
[17:25] <chariaf> heya 4 all
[17:25] <julie> crisp_chunks,  from the mixer in gnome it's easy
[17:25] <fiftyeight> julie: it works most of the time, but quite often like it reverts to this screen
[17:25] <fiftyeight> julie: is there a way to be sure what is the problem?
[17:25] <crisp_chunks> Looked for the option, but cant find it. Or you mean another mixer program?
[17:25] <julie> fiftyeight, a bad sector check would do the job
[17:26] <fiftyeight> julie: can you tell how how I do this check?
[17:26] <fiftyeight> julie: I also have windows on a different hard drive
[17:27] <julie> fiftyeight, you could boot from a CD and run e2fsck -fc
[17:28] <julie> fiftyeight, e2fsck -fc device
[17:28] <fiftyeight> julie: okay, will the standard ubuntu destop CD do the job?
[17:28] <julie> yep
[17:28] <julie> you just need to boot in console mode
[17:28] <fiftyeight> okay, how do I get to a terminal for the CD pls?
[17:28] <fiftyeight> how do I do that?
[17:29] <julie> fiftyeight,  It's one of the options but in any case you could boot with the default option and open a terminal window
[17:29] <fiftyeight> okay, I do try ubntu and open a terminal?
[17:29] <fiftyeight> *ubuntu
[17:29] <submicro> has anyone ever had a prob with the parallel port always reading +5vdc on pins 2-7
[17:29] <julie> yep
[17:30] <rationalOgre> fiftyeight: one of the options on the inital screen of the livecd should be to open a terminal
[17:30] <fiftyeight> k, thx, I'll do it and tell you the results in hope you'll still be here :)
[17:30] <julie> submicro, wooohhh didn't touch that in 15 years :)
[17:30] <submicro> lol
[17:31] <p896gbm> PharaohSD: looks like they added the file that was giving 404. i guess i tried to install exactly when they updated the package, because it's a slightly newer version than i had before and apt-get upgrade offered to update flashplugin-installer
[17:31] <p896gbm> heh
[17:31] <p896gbm> crazy coincidence
[17:31] <julie> submicro, but from what I remember out of the top of my head these are probably inputs
[17:31] <p896gbm> still you'd think they'd put the tarball up before offering the new package for update
[17:31] <p896gbm> not the other way around
[17:32] <submicro> Julie, I'm trying to get EMC2 to work but havi ng probs with the parallel port
[17:32] <julie> submicro, sorry I just checked and they are output pins indeed
[17:33] <julie> submicro: this would mean some software is currently outputting on it
[17:33] <submicro> how can I find out what's using them?
[17:33] <julie> good question
[17:33] <submicro> :-)
[17:34] <submicro> I've tried using parport to test them with no luck
[17:35] <bobbyd> Hi. I'm trying to use the socorro package from here: http://code.google.com/p/socorro/source/checkout on my Ubuntu 10.10 system with Python 2.6.6. I coped the socorro folder (which includes __init__.py files and looks like a library) to my/usr/local/lib/python2. 6/site-packages dir, but when I try to import it, it doesn't work. Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?
[17:35] <julie> does it give you any error?
[17:36] <submicro> Julie, No just outputs but the pins read a constant 5 vdc
[17:36] <julie> if it was a kernel issue, it should fail
[17:36] <sipior> bobbyd: have you set $PYTHONPATH appropriately?
[17:36] <submicro> I think some module has a hold of it??
[17:37] <julie> possibly, I really don't have a clue so far
[17:37] <bobbyd> sipior: no, but I copied it to site-packages as directed
[17:38] <submicro> modprobe shows parport_pc is loaded
[17:38] <julie> which is fine
[17:38] <Iderik> is it possible to screen a gui application via SSH? :)
[17:38] <julie> submicro, have you configured any printer spool on the parallel port?
[17:39] <sipior> bobbyd: fire up your python interpreter, and try "import sys", "sys.path", and see if the relevant path is there.
[17:39] <submicro> no I don't have a printer
[17:39] <llutz> Iderik: ssh -X user@host xterm
[17:39] <bobbyd> sipior: it's not, now do I add it permanently?
[17:39] <bobbyd> s/now/how
[17:40] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[17:40] <sipior> bobbyd: set PYTHONPATH to the correct value.
[17:40] <submicro> I've even tried using Ubuntu 8.04 but got the same prob
[17:40] <bobbyd> sipior: but I want this to be available on the system like any other library, I don't want to have to set PYTHONPATH each time I want to use the module
[17:41] <Iderik> llutz, thanks! but isnt it possible to connect via a console and then when i execute the gui application, it shows me the interface?
[17:41] <julie> submicro, have you by any chance checked the pins before it was booted (such as at the boot prompt)?
[17:41] <sipior> bobbyd: then put it in a place that your interpreter will go looking for it.
[17:41] <llutz> Iderik: sure, "ssh -X  host" then run the app you want
[17:41] <submicro> no but  idea
[17:42] <bobbyd> sipior: right, but how does Python do it for all other modules that are installed?
[17:42] <submicro> good idea
[17:42] <julie> :)
[17:43] <submicro> julie, thanx I'll give that a try
[17:43] <julie> submicro, before you leave...
[17:43] <sipior> bobbyd: that's the "sys.path" variable from before. you know about #python here on freenode?
[17:43] <stowoda> hi there
[17:43] <stowoda> someone has a script to rename multiple files?
[17:43] <xxmmaann> hi
[17:43] <llutz> stowoda: "man rename"
[17:43] <stowoda> got some mpr files with a bad encoding
[17:43] <stowoda> hmm llutz
[17:43] <julie> submicro, if it does, I would check to make sure the connector is well connected on the motherboard
[17:43] <stowoda> I am a noob
[17:44] <stowoda> it cold be difficult
[17:44] <llutz> stowoda: but you can read? ;)
[17:44] <stowoda> I want it quick :)
[17:44] <submicro> julie, ok I will
[17:44] <stowoda> is that possible at all?
[17:45] <llutz> stowoda: you just want change the filename encoding? use convmv
[17:45] <stowoda> no.
[17:45] <julie> stowoda, you just do a simple shell script but the details depend on the naming convention you want to apply
[17:45] <stowoda> these files were copied from windows..
[17:45] <submicro> julie, thanx again i'll probally be back later
[17:45] <xxmmaann> i have ubuntu 10.10 and openoffice 3.2 >>> the sound and video not work in presentation
[17:45] <julie> submicro, hope to hear back from you
[17:46] <xxmmaann> :-/
[17:46] <julie> stowoda, please give an example of how you wish to have the files renamed
[17:46] <stowoda> the name is like: somethingAtTheBeginning(then a bad character).mp3
[17:46] <stowoda> or maybe ina different way:
[17:46] <chickadee> fortune smiles upon me! :) there is a spare 250w psu that i am able to refurbish. :)
[17:46] <stowoda> xy.mp3
[17:47] <stowoda> x differst from file to file
[17:47] <stowoda> differs
[17:47] <xxmmaann> :)
[17:47] <julie> stowoda, you would need to start by identifying what that bad character is
[17:47] <stowoda> understand..
[17:47] <stowoda> I was aware of that..
[17:47] <stowoda> hmm
[17:47] <stowoda> how to do that
[17:47] <Pici> stowoda: Is 'y' always the same? or always present?
[17:47] <julie> doing a small for loop with sed should do the job
[17:48] <llutz> stowoda: "convmv -f iso-8859-15 -t utf-8 -r ."   inside the dir with the mp3s
[17:48] <Pici> stowoda: something like: rename 's/.\.mp3/.mp3/' *.mp3
[17:49] <stowoda> hmm.. will try that out llutz
[17:49] <stowoda> wait pls :)
[17:50] <llutz> stowoda: wait, windows uses latin1, doesn't it?
[17:50] <fiftyeight> julie: hi you still here?
[17:50] <julie> yes
[17:50] <llutz> stowoda: "convmv -f latin1 -t utf-8 -r ."   in that case
[17:50] <stowoda> llutz that could be
[17:51] <stowoda> great thx, will try that out
[17:51] <fiftyeight> julie: great, I read to command e2fsck with the c option will also put bad sectors away, can I run the command without the c option? since this is a brand new HDD, if it's bad I'll want to return it to the store
[17:51] <arild> Hello, having problems with getting my Nvidia GT 540m working with Ubuntu 11.04 anybody know what todo?
[17:52] <stowoda> llutz, No changes to your files done. Use --notest to finally rename the files.
[17:52] <stowoda> how to understand this?
[17:52] <llutz> stowoda: yes, check what it wants to do before actually renaming files
[17:52] <fiftyeight> julie: the previous guy I asked here told me to do memtest84 so now it's done and I can check the HDD
[17:52] <julie> fiftyeight, the point of using the -c option is to check the disk's physical integrity
[17:53] <julie> fiftyeight, memtest is not a bad idea but won't find anything if the problem is the drive
[17:54] <julie> fiftyeight:  it can take quite a while but is worth the try
[17:54] <stowoda> llutz, maybe the source encoding is not correct?
[17:54] <fiftyeight> julie: k, will it tel me if it found something? what's annoying here is that this is a brand new HDD, and I'll be pretty pissed if it has problems :)
[17:55] <fiftyeight> julie: so I'll want to return it probably
[17:55] <julie> fiftyeight: I get your point...  it will tell you how many bad sectors were found and you'll see them showing up on the sreen as it finds them too
[17:55] <stowoda> aa
[17:55] <stowoda> ok it worked but not as desiered
[17:55] <fiftyeight> julie: okay, in a normal situation it should find zero bad sectors?
[17:55] <julie> right
[17:55] <stowoda> the bad character is gone bur it is replaced by a: á
[17:55] <fiftyeight> k
[17:56] <stowoda> it should be a: ß
[17:56] <tvbox> surround sound not working?
[17:56] <jburkholder42> look for seek errors and remapped sectors also, remapped sector count should be 0
[17:56] <arild> having problems with getting my Nvidia GT 540m working with X in Ubuntu 11.04 anybody know that have a clew...
[17:56] <stowoda> but I think I am lucky with that
[17:56] <stowoda> thank You llutz
[17:56] <stowoda> will try the rest on my own
[17:57] <deexannihilate> I'm having sound issues in Ubuntu 10.04 which were fixed a year or so ago. It randomly quit working on day. There is no sound output and if I plug speakers into the computer, the system crashes/freezes. I spend a few hours on here last year to resolve this problem. I've tried following a few tutorials, but inevitably, the computer won't respond to some part of the forums.
[17:57] <xxmmaann> so . can you help me >>> sound and video not work in open oiffice impress ??????
[17:58] <xxmmaann> im using open office 3.2
[17:58] <psyx> hey @ all
[17:58] <xxmmaann> any ideas?????????????????????????????????????
[17:59] <xxmmaann> O:-)
[17:59] <megabraker> hello could any one help me with this? http://pastebin.com/h3VgjZHF
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> xxmmaann: wassup? I missed the initial question
[18:00] <xxmmaann>  im using open office 3.2 >>>sound and video not work in open oiffice impress
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> megabraker: http://ppa.launchpad.net/wrinkliez/ppasearch/ubuntu/dists   the ppa doesn't support Natty
[18:00] <bobbyd> sipior: ok, the rigt way to do it is to create a distutils script as described here: http://docs.python.org/distutils/introduction.html#a-simple-example
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> xxmmaann: can't help you dude, I don't use impress
[18:00] <megabraker> ActionParsnip how to solve it?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> xxmmaann: maybe others can
[18:01] <bobbyd> sipior: I did that and it works fine
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> megabraker: remove the ppa
[18:01] <oCean> megabraker:  PPA's are unsupported 3rd party software
[18:01] <megabraker> ActionParsnip, oCean : but it was working
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> megabraker: if the app is very abstracted, you can change the ppa release to maverick for that one PPA and get the app thatway (I don't advise this but it CAN be done)
[18:02] <julie> deexannihilate, you should check your "dmesg" output before connecting the speakers
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> megabraker: doesn't matter what it WAS doing, it's not working now that counts
[18:02] <xxmmaann> so . any ideas ???:-/
[18:02] <deexannihilate> julie: how do i do that?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> xxmmaann: tried the openoffice channel?
[18:02] <julie> deexannihilate, and also look at your logs (/var/log)
[18:02] <arild> having problems with getting my Nvidia GT 540m working with X in Ubuntu 11.04 anyone had any luck with Nvidia GT 540M ?
[18:02] <Ulfalizer> How well does x11/Gnome/Nvidia work with three monitors nowadays?
[18:02] <julie> deexannihilate, the command is "dmesg"
[18:03] <Ulfalizer> Two Nvidia cards
[18:03] <xxmmaann>  ActionParsnip: yes no result
[18:03] <julie> you run that from a terminal window
[18:03] <Ede> hi @all
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> arild: just install nvidia-current and you should be fine, if your monitor sucks you may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:03] <xxmmaann> :-(
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> xxmmaann: then all I can suggest is try a little later, different users and such
[18:05] <malchias> is there something special I need to do to get cgi-scripts (perl scripts) to run?   Here is what I've done, but all I get is 403 errors: http://pastebin.com/Y7qmKRSr - not sure if it's because of something special about unbuntu, or if it's a straight apache question
[18:05] <arild> ActionParsnip, Just accepted the Nvidia sugested driver from update and did run sudo nvidia-xconfig when rebooting x did not start, so i had to start in recovery mode to have x running again
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> arild: what version driver does nvidia-settings say you are running?
[18:05] <megabraker> why ubuntu support ends very quikly?
[18:06] <megabraker> !
[18:06] <xxmmaann> so nobody use oo impress  ?
[18:06] <genii-around> megabraker: 3 years is not so quickly
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> megabraker: 18 months for regular releases, it's not a rolling release distro
[18:07] <Pici> xxmmaann: You're probably better off asking in an OOo support channel, like #openoffice.org
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> xxmmaann: currently, itlooks like not. Re-ask in a few hours and there will be differnet users on to ask
[18:07] <DD1> hey, i wanna install audio driver for my laptop on lucid, please guide me to some resource?
[18:07] <deexannihilate> julie: http://pastebin.com/BFB9THgn
[18:07] <xxmmaann> ok
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> DD1: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh              Thanks
[18:08] <arild> ActionParsnip, It does not display any version info
[18:08] <julie> ActionParsnip, that will download and run the Alsa install script
[18:08] <rationalOgre> xxmmaann: OO.o impress not playing a sound? What format is the sound in?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> arild: can you pastebini the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> julie: yes but it gives a tonne of useful sound data
[18:09] <arild> ActionParsnip, what sw do i need to paste that info on pastebin?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> arild: it does it for you, just tell the script to upload to the alsa servers
[18:11] <moneedhelp> .
[18:11] <DD1> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4b846da4b42b457b5d02e6034c66f7296ea9542f
[18:11] <Guest63625> i got a question about docky
[18:11] <julie> deexannihilate, you obviously have severe CD errors which could make your system unstable
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> DD1: use: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/   to get ALSA 1.0.23
[18:12] <deexannihilate> julie: how do i correct it?
[18:12] <julie> deexannihilate, are you booting off the CD?
[18:12] <Guest63625> hello all, i got a quick question about docky if anyone wants to help
[18:12] <deexannihilate> julie: no
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest63625: ask away
[18:12] <davidtoropov> hi, i have a question about a slow hard drive?
[18:12] <julie> deexannihilate, are you currently using the drive?
[18:12] <DD1> ActionParsnip: you mean i should replace the url in that wget command?
[18:13] <deexannihilate> julie: i'm using the same system right now if that's what you mean
[18:13] <Guest63625> when you click the docky configuration file and it opens it puts a blue glow around the whole bar. is there a way to make this permant?
[18:13] <arild> ActionParsnip, ok have the info on clipboard ... should i goto pastebin.com ?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> DD1: no, use the link, if you read your output you have no alsa driver, the guide will get you 1.0.23 which can help a lot
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> arild: sure
[18:13] <julie> deexannihilate, I simply mean to ask if there's a disk in your CD drive
[18:13] <Guest63625> how?
[18:14] <deexannihilate> julie
[18:14] <deexannihilate> julie: there is a dvd in there, yes.
[18:14] <julie> have you tried booting with the drive empty?
[18:15] <davidtoropov> the gapless playback on my banshee library isn't working, there's a small gap between each song now
[18:15] <deexannihilate> julie: yes. this problem existed before the dvd was in there
[18:15] <psyx> ls -la
[18:15] <arild> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/3jgJNFNS
[18:15] <julie> ok
[18:16] <julie> deexannihilate, in a terminal window, do "ls -ltr /var/log"
[18:16] <psyx> hey doubletwist u are a tricker?
[18:16] <davidtoropov> can anyone help me?
[18:16] <julie> deexannihilate:  this will show you the log files which were last updated
[18:16] <deexannihilate> julie: do you want a copy?
[18:16] <julie> sure
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> arild: oh jeez its one of those dual video chip monstrosities isn't it
[18:17] <deexannihilate> julie: http://pastebin.com/ZcpYLpTj
[18:18] <arild> ActionParsnip, In win7 im getting a Intel graphic control panel aswell.... Nvidia GT 540M 2Gb RAM
[18:19] <julie> deexannihilate, I'd like to see your /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log
[18:19] <szal> what's the standard UID for the 1st user in *buntu?
[18:19] <CrazyIvan> May i ask? I am a Debian guy and i want to try out Ubuntu. Is there something in Ubuntu similar to the Debian DVD set?
[18:20] <deexannihilate> julie: sorry for my ignorance, but how do I open those
[18:20] <szal> CrazyIvan: no, there's the live CDs, the alternate installer CDs and the server installer CDs
[18:20] <szal> deexannihilate: w/ any text editor or viewer
[18:21] <julie> deexannihilate, use "cat filename" or just open the file in your text editor (from applications-accessories)
[18:21] <CrazyIvan> szal: So so the install program needs to fetch everything from internet when installing?
[18:21] <szal> deexannihilate: or use a pager, like e.g. more, less, most
[18:22] <arild> ActionParsnip, Is it waste of time trying to find a solution to get that card upn running in Ubuntu ?
[18:22] <szal> CrazyIvan: nah, it installs everything from the medium of your choice, if you want stuff that isn't on there you need to pull that later from the 'net
[18:23] <deexannihilate> julie: i'm not understanding how to open it with the text editor
[18:23] <deexannihilate> julie: figured it out
[18:24] <CrazyIvan> szal: So if i select the Alternative installer, what packages do i get on the CDs?
[18:24] <szal> deexannihilate: 'sudo less /var/log/whateverLogFileYouWantToOpen' <- you can scroll up & down, and quit by pressing q
[18:24] <sidd_mak> is it possible to integrate songbird like banshee or rhythmbox below sound notification ??
[18:24] <julie> szal, that won't allow him to send the files to me
[18:24] <szal> julie: he can still copy&paste ;)
[18:25] <deexannihilate> julie: http://pastebin.com/ZcXguUUj
[18:26] <deexannihilate> julie: http://pastebin.com/QKqndaMB
[18:26] <Pici> !pastebinit | also handy
[18:26] <Yami_Bas> hello :)
[18:26] <Yami_Bas> im having problems with pulse audio
[18:26] <CrazyIvan> There is a way to install Alsa
[18:26] <pfifo> can someone take a look at this http://fpaste.org/0Mjh/
[18:26] <Yami_Bas> ditch pulse
[18:26] <Yami_Bas> get alsa?
[18:27] <szal> CrazyIvan: the CD images are accompanied by a .list file on the download servers containing a list of all pkgs that are on them
[18:27] <CrazyIvan> szal: I can take a look at that, thanks
[18:27] <deexannihilate> julie: http://pastebin.com/T7yxAptr
[18:27] <linsux> how do i choose a fast repo in xfce4
[18:27] <CrazyIvan> Yami_Bas: That's what i did
[18:28] <pr0ton> does anybody know a good localhost syncing option?
[18:28] <julie> deexannihilate, your problem is with the following line: "Jun  8 13:21:29 dollface-dee pulseaudio[5020]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-esound-protocol-unix" (argument: ""): initialization failed."
[18:28] <Pici> pfifo: It looks like you may be suffering from https://launchpad.net/bugs/56125
[18:28] <Yami_Bas> alright i cant find pulse audio in the software center though...
[18:28] <Yami_Bas> should i just purge it?
[18:28] <Yami_Bas> and then get alsa?
[18:28] <szal> Pici: lol
[18:29] <__Alex_> pfifo: This is old! Have you yet found out the Aptitude easter egg?
[18:29] <e09h3> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   e09h3 Toph2 syafiq SimonP86 bonjoyee bmm sachin overfiend marko__ pyrony DriesVD BladeFreak kiamo bipo ophion Yami_Bas soultekkie metatagg Pretto sidd_mak After
[18:29] <e09h3> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   shankar xeros Pr070cal uifjlh1 SireRickOfJames MrRagga elTigre malchias Ans5i lollo64it tobetchi Ede GeorgS elex2 JoFo duckspeaker Ulfalizer knowboundz sllide D
[18:29] <e09h3> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   bobbyd netsjanek tandauioan Calinou juboba EncRyptO Odysimus Logan_ BlankVerse jsurfer ubuntu__ Eipou stowoda Oxicore Vemboca mluser-home kyrix p896gbm Lasall b
[18:29] <__Alex_> Yami_Bas: I think so
[18:29] <Yami_Bas> alright
[18:29] <Yami_Bas> im new so to get thinks straight
[18:30] <Logan_> !botattack
[18:30] <Yami_Bas> sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio && sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:30] <dieter_> hey guys
[18:30] <Yami_Bas> right?
[18:30] <deexannihilate> julie: i know i completely removed pulseaudio earlier today. is this reoccurring because besided yesterday, this computer hasn't been on since last month.
[18:31] <dieter_> stupid firsttimer question. I've downloaded gimp as an archive and I'm wondering where I should unpack it and pin it to the startbar
[18:31] <__Alex_> Yami_Bas: I would recommand using aptitude, but yes
[18:31] <Yami_Bas> aptitude?
[18:31] <szal> fkkkin' spammers..  they just changed the date..
[18:31] <Pici> __Alex_: fyi, aptitude ins't installed by default on Ubuntu
[18:31] <__Alex_> !aptitude | Yami_Bas
[18:31] <Guest63625> i got a question about docky, is the a way to make docky glow permanently like when you open the settings button
[18:31] <pfifo> Pici, I think you may be right
[18:31] <Yami_Bas> alright
[18:32] <Yami_Bas> ill take a look at it :)
[18:32] <deexannihilate> julie: the the problem existed probably 6 months prior to that point.
[18:32] <__Alex_> Aptitude handles Dependencies better than apt-get
[18:33] <Yami_Bas> alright :)
[18:33] <Yami_Bas> installing it now via apt-get ironically enough
[18:33] <linsux> why is aptitude better than apt-get?
[18:34] <patrunjel> hi guys, can someone please tell me how to mount a flash drive from the command line? (I want the icon on the desktop :D )
[18:34] <pfifo> dieter_, any reason your not using gimp in the repos?
[18:34] <SireRickOfJames> sasle fu?
[18:34] <savid> Hi,  I don't seem to be getting a launcher button for my browser in unity.  When I try to drag the chrome launcher into the unity bar,  it just disappears.  What's going on?
[18:35] <__Alex_> savid: Did you right clicked and ticked the 'keep' tickbox
[18:35] <__Alex_> ???
[18:35] <pfifo> dieter_, try just installing gimp from the software center
[18:36] <Guest63625> i got a question about docky, is the a way to make docky glow permanently like when you open the settings
[18:36] <patrunjel> hi guys, can someone please tell me how to mount a flash drive from the command line? (I want the icon on the desktop :D ) can someone please help me?
[18:37] <Yami_Bas> 1 more question what are the commands to uninstall something completely just purge?
[18:37] <Yami_Bas> or like a autoremove and and update?
[18:37] <Yami_Bas> (including ofc*)
[18:37] <savid> __Alex_,  it won't even stay in there.  I drag it to the launcher bar and it doesn't go in there.  It just disappears.
[18:37] <__Alex_> Aha
[18:37] <linsux> i have 2G ram, 80G hd, 1.42ghz cpu celeron m, which buntu is best for me?
[18:37] <savid> __Alex_,  even when I run Chrome  it doesn't create a button
[18:38] <savid> for the window
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> __Alex_: never had a single issue with deps in Ubuntu and I've never used aptitude
[18:38] <Narigo> Hi there, I've got a problem getting my internal microphone to run. Right now it just produces noise and nothing else. In #alsa I couldn't get any help, so maybe here someone could point me in the right direction where I could find some information?
[18:38] <__Alex_> I'm a XFce guy, so i don't know much about Uniti and UNR
[18:38] <__Alex_> Used it once in my life
[18:38] <deexannihilate> julie: any further suggestions on how to fix?
[18:39] <julie> deexannihilate, why do you have recent entries on pulseaudio if it was removed?
[18:39] <julie> something's wrong there
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Yami_Bas: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[18:39] <arild> like to have this Nvidia card up and running in Ubuntu 11.04 http://pastebin.com/3jgJNFNS anyone know iff its possible ?
[18:39] <deexannihilate> julie: i was following a tutorial that had me remove it and then reinstall it
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Narigo: can you give the output of; wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh       Thanks
[18:40] <deexannihilate> julie: i know I also tried to play a song on amazon forgetting the sound didn't work... I don't know if that would have any effect
[18:40] <__Alex_> Look at this nice easter egg: http://pastebin.com/HcYdr3vV
[18:40] <julie> deexannihilate, well right now you obviously have two packages trying to access the same hardware device
[18:40] <julie> I doubt that would have changed anything
[18:40] <savid> What's wrong with this picture?   http://i.imgur.com/s5ik9.png
[18:40] <Yami_Bas> alright thx action...
[18:41] <Narigo> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/HTCj7LyP
[18:41] <Yami_Bas> i just saw i forgot the purge before autoremove when i deinstalled some programms?
[18:41] <Yami_Bas> big deal?
[18:41] <rly> When I click on the trash can, it gets opened in VLC. How can I get Nautilus to open it?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> __Alex_: try running: gegls from outer space
[18:41] <julie> savid, other than giving everyone your email address it looks fine
[18:41] <acnot> Hay the FloodBot just asked me how many fingers are in one hand
[18:41] <savid> Oops :)
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Narigo: what model is the system?
[18:42] <Narigo> ActionParsnip: I tried different "model=XXXX" options in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf but I couldn't get the mic working through that...
[18:42] <savid> julie,  no window button for chrome
[18:42] <acnot> And I answered 4 and it was incorrect
[18:42] <Narigo> hp pavilion hdx9000
[18:42] <deexannihilate> julie: how do i correct it
[18:42] <acnot> But it excepts 5 as correct
[18:42] <Squeezer> my browser flash plays no sound. Why?
[18:42] <Squeezer> Hello everyone
[18:42] <julie> deexannihilate, thinking...
[18:42] <oCean> acnot: this channel is for discussing support topics, not about the floodbots thanks
[18:42] <acnot> one of those five is a thumb
[18:42] <savid> Actually I restarted compiz and it seems to work again.  Strange.
[18:43] <Squeezer> Not on YouTube, not on Grooveshark, not anywhere.
[18:43] <willemb_> greetings.  Surround sound help, please?
[18:43] <Squeezer> I'm using 11.04
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Narigo: try:    options snd-hda-intel model=model=5stack
[18:44] <Narigo> ActionParsnip: "sudo alsa force-reload" is ok, after editing alsa-base.conf, right?
[18:44] <acnot> This channel is always such an unfriendly place, giving open source a bad name
[18:44] <chickadee> question: If a hdd can be read via usb using a live ubuntu disc, but does not display itself when physically installed into a system, what protocols are necessary to bring the hdd "into the foreground" in order for the system to acknowledge its existence?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Squeezer: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash
[18:45] <patrunjel> hi guys, can someone please tell me how to mount a flash drive from the command line? (I want the icon on the desktop :D ) can someone please help me?
[18:45] <wildgoose> !flash | Squeezer
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> !mount | patrunjel
[18:45] <bullgard4> Xano: In my Ubuntu 11.04 it shows "sshd".
[18:46] <__Alex_> !fstab | patrunjel
[18:46] <julie> deexannihilate, what do you get from "aplay -l"?
[18:46] <Squeezer> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/621914/
[18:46] <deexannihilate> card 0: ALS4000 [Avance Logic ALS4000], device 0: ALS4000 DSP [] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[18:46] <Yami_Bas> thanks guys
[18:46] <Yami_Bas> but i gtg :)
[18:46] <Yami_Bas> byee
[18:46] <Narigo> ActionParsnip: 5stack doesn't help, I _think_ before 11.04 I had 5stack and it worked...
[18:47] <deexannihilate> julie: card 0: ALS4000 [Avance Logic ALS4000], device 0: ALS4000 DSP [] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[18:47] <JohnSS> How do I view my log of updates from the commandline?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Squeezer: sudo apt-get --purge remove adobe-flashplugin  adobe-flash-properties-gtk; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:47] <julie> deexannihilate, mmmm no subdevice
[18:47] <harish_> could some one help me out please!!!? I'm new to this place
[18:47] <michaelcore> hi, does anybody know what I have to do, that i can watch movies in a pdf with okular?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> harish_: ask away
[18:48] <Squeezer> ActionParsnip: tyvm
[18:48] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, /etc/resolve.conf settings keep getting wiped by networkmanager , but I purged networkmanager a while back , this is just since i installed 11.10
[18:48] <theos> hi! is there a way to select gpu as the opencl object in ubuntu? i think opencl uses my cpu instead
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: you can configure network manager to use DHCP for address only. You can manually set DNS servers that way :)
[18:50] <beefman_> having trouble connecting w/ usb wireless nic to my network.  wicd says either "unable to get ip address" or "bad password" and dmesg has a line saying "error!! rtmpsettimer failed, halt in progress!"
[18:50] <JohnSS> How do I view my log of updates from the commandline?
[18:51] <michaelcore> hi, does anybody know what I have to do, that i can watch movies in a pdf with okular?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, but I don't have NM installed ...must be something else wiping the file
[18:51] <Xano> bullgard4: I t works now. A typo in the config file causes the server to start and shut down immediately
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: make sure the network manager is completely gone
[18:51] <malchias> is there something special I need to do to get cgi-scripts (perl scripts) to run?   Here is what I've done, but all I get is 403 errors: http://pastebin.com/Y7qmKRSr - not sure if it's because of something special about unbuntu, or if it's a straight apache question
[18:52] <deexannihilate> julie: what is a subdevice?
[18:53] <Narigo> ActionParsnip or anybody else: Any other ideas about my microphone issue?
[18:53] <julie> deexannihilate, forget that...
[18:53] <julie> deexannihilate, do you have any snd- options in /etc/modprobe.d/options?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Narigo: That's the height of my sound troubleshooting
[18:54] <bytesaber_work> installed xinetd and then tftpd.   Had to lookup on ubuntu forms for a template tftpd config for xinetd.  Why isn't it included in the package?
[18:54] <Squeezer> ActionParsnip: did that, restarted the browser, didn't help.
[18:54] <deexannihilate> julie: do i type that into the terminal? and if so, what do you want me to type?
[18:54] <sleepynate> recent problem: sound still works but no longer respects volume changes through alsa. what gives?
[18:54] <Narigo> ActionParsnip: thanks anyways... I would be happy about any links I could get... but I also feel strange about having a different libs/utils version than alsa-driver
[18:54] <julie> deexannihilate, text editor
[18:55] <Iderik_> how do i install python 2.6? this one didnt exist: sudo apt-get install python2.6       is there a way to upgrade from 2.5 to 2.6, maybe its easier for my case, or?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Squeezer: did you restart the browser?
[18:55] <Narigo> malchias: _maybe_ the chmod rights are not correctly set for the scripts?
[18:55] <Squeezer> ActionParsnip: just realized it works in Firefox.. just not in Chrome
[18:56] <jburkholder42> Iderik_: python26 I think?
[18:56] <Squeezer> ActionParsnip: and yes I have
[18:56] <Pici> Iderik_: python2.6 is only availble in releases newer than lucid.
[18:56] <jburkholder42> oh
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Squeezer: cool, not sure then. I don't use firefox
[18:56] <dsathe> screw ms screw nvidia
[18:56] <malchias> they are 755 - but what I'm trying to figure out is if it's an apache or ubuntu issue?
[18:56] <deexannihilate> julie: there is no options file in modprobe.d
[18:56] <Pici> Iderik_: If you're using Hardy, then you'll need to find a PPA, I'm not sure once exists though, since python is rather integral to Ubuntu.
[18:56] <raj_> hi
[18:56] <Squeezer> ActionParsnip: well it works in firefox. It doesn't work in Chromium
[18:57] <Iderik_> Pici, thanks a lot
[18:57] <Squeezer> the opensource browser by Google
[18:57] <Squeezer> the most popular browser in my country
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Squeezer: try symlinking the libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[18:57] <ubun> I can seem to get ubuntu10 or ubuntu 11.04 installed in my cpu... any help...
[18:57] <julie> deexannihilate, so that's a no ....   mmm
[18:57] <klownish> Im having an issue with my display.  I have a nvidia gtx 260 with a vga resolution max of 2048x1536 , and my tv that its connected to has a max of 1,280 × 1,024, but 1280 x 1024 is not listed in my nvidia display settings.  I've tried usign xrandr to set the display and it is not working, says "configure crtc 0 failed"  anyone have any ideas?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Squeezer: I use the daily build of chromium, I'm well aware of the browser
[18:57] <iridium> Squeezer,  your country is?
[18:58] <ubun>  I cant seem to get ubuntu10 or ubuntu 11.04 installed in my cpu... any help?
[18:58] <ubun> correcttion
[18:58] <Squeezer> iridium: Armenia. Firefox is #2 here, and IE is third.
[18:58] <michaelcore> hi, does anybody know what I have to do, that i can watch movies in a pdf with okular?
[18:58] <iridium> good to know
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> ubun: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[18:59] <ubun> ActionParsnip: MD5 test?
[18:59] <michaelcore> hi, does anybody know what I have to do, that i can watch movies in a pdf with okular?
[18:59] <iridium> and a fine browser
[18:59] <ubun> ActionParsnip: i dont know what md5 test is or how to do it...
[18:59] <Omega> Squeezer: Chromium or Chrome?
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> !md5| ubun
[18:59] <Squeezer> Omega: Chrome
[18:59] <Omega> Because Chrome packs its own flash, chromium uses the same one as Firefox.
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> michaelcore: does the adobe reader work ok?
[19:00] <Squeezer> Omega: oh, I have Chromium here
[19:00] <ubun> ActionParsnip: thank you let me find out...
[19:00] <michaelcore> ActionParsnip: on windows the videos work with adobe reader but not on my ubuntu
[19:01] <hozano> Hi people. I am trying to install android sdk in my ubuntu 10.04 64 bits. Running the "adb" i have a message "no such file or dir...". Some forums says to install ia32-libs, to fix it. But, my ubuntu don't install this package because your wrong dependencies. How Can i fix it?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> michaelcore: have you installed the adobe reader though?
[19:01] <TER0RR> HI all. I am using ubuntu server 10.04 and I am trying to setup ipv6 since is today is that special ipv6day. I have native ipv6 connection from my ISP and when i plug my laptop directly without a router to my modem the dhcp server from isp assingned ipv6 to my windows7 laptop, But when i try to connect directly to my ubuntu box only ipv4 works.
[19:01] <TER0RR> any ideas?
[19:01] <michaelcore> yes
[19:01] <julie> deexannihilate, do you by any chance have more than one sound adapter (like a built-in and a PCI card)?
[19:01] <michaelcore> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:02] <kop> This just isn't fair . I listened to the warning that my laptop had only 1g of space left and moved nearly 8g to the trash . After emptying the trash I have only 400mb of space left ?! I should have cleared close to 10 g of space . Where is the crap hiding ? Disc utility agrees with me but the OS keeps spouting it's you have only 400mb of space warning ....
[19:02] <dieter_> hey guys, how do i switch between kde and gnome in ubuntu?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> michaelcore: then use that, the open solutions don't always have the fll features in the Adobe offering
[19:02] <gmunk3y> does anyone know how to get to the support chat?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> dieter_: you select the DE at login
[19:02] <julie> deexannihilate, "lspci" could show you what is present
[19:02] <deexannihilate> julie: not that i'm aware of. this computer is probably 10 years old and the sound card was replaced 3 years ago because the original one wasn't working.
[19:02] <dieter_> thnx
[19:02] <Pici> TER0RR: are you using ufw? If so, you'll need to enable ipv6 by modifying /etc/default/ufw
[19:02] <harish_> !factoid
[19:02] <klownish> gmunk3y, support for ubuntu?  If so, this is the support chat.
[19:03] <julie> deexannihilate, do show me the output from "lspci"
[19:03] <antoiner_roquent> Hello, this is my first time on here. I was wondering if anyone knows about using google phone with the new release of Ubuntu.
[19:03] <michaelcore> ActionParsnip: i tried it, but i can't ply the videos with the adobe reader on my ubuntu, because it's looking for die WinowsMediaPlayer but it isn't on my linux
[19:03] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, I think it was modem manager that was doing the wiping ...all seems fine now
[19:03] <n8wulf> eish... as they say in South Africa
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: sweet :)
[19:04] <deexannihilate> julie: http://pastebin.com/FmTbWqUb
[19:04] <rationalOgre> There, SASL set up successfully.
[19:04] <antoiner_roquent> I installed the debian/ubuntu package for using the browser based google phone application and can hear people but they cannot hear me.
[19:04] <TER0RR> Pici no i don't use any fw
[19:04] <antoiner_roquent> It's strange because I know my microphone works. I wondered if anyone could suggest what the problem might be?
[19:04] <klownish> Im having an issue with my display.  I have a nvidia gtx 260 with a vga resolution max of 2048x1536 , and my tv that its connected to has a max of 1,280 × 1,024, but 1280 x 1024 is not listed in my nvidia display settings.  I've tried usign xrandr to set the display and it is not working, says "configure crtc 0 failed"  anyone have any ideas?
[19:05] <losty> hey brown_fern i tested libreoffice after installing MS fonts - works a treat!
[19:05] <Pici> TER0RR: Does    ip -6 addr   show an ipv6 address?
[19:05] <julie> deexannihilate, what the heck is that?  I've never seen the same device listed so many times
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> michaelcore: did you install acrobat reader in wine, or did you install the native linux adobe reader
[19:05] <julie> deexannihilate, this is most likely a hardware issue with the sound card
[19:05] <BluesKaj> antoiner_roquent, in the terminal , alsamixer -V all
[19:05] <TER0RR> Pici only that "not real" ipv6 adresses...
[19:05] <antoiner_roquent> What does that do BluesKaj ?
[19:06] <deexannihilate> julie: so, i need a new sound card?
[19:06] <michaelcore> ActionParsnip: I installed the nativ linux adobe reader
[19:06] <losty> brown_fern i had an issue still with a doc, and had to install tahoma font - http://www.stchman.com/ms_fonts.html (followed method 1)
[19:06] <brown_fern> losty: Wow, that's good news! What was that work-around again? I need it too.
[19:06] <BluesKaj> mkes sure all your ctrls are turned up and unuted , antoiner_roquent
[19:06] <brown_fern> losty: oh, I see, thank you for that link!
[19:06] <julie> deexannihilate, I'm 95% positive
[19:06] <tranquilwaters_> hello, anyone here with some experience using heimdall to flash roms on mobile phones?
[19:07] <hozano> Hi people. I am trying to install android sdk in my ubuntu 10.04 64 bits. Running the "adb" i have a message "no such file or dir...". Some forums says to install ia32-libs, to fix it. But, my ubuntu don't install this package because your wrong dependencies. How Can i fix it?
[19:07] <kop> This just isn't fair . I listened to the warning that my laptop had only 1g of space left and moved nearly 8g to the trash . After emptying the trash I have only 400mb of space left ?! I should have cleared close to 10 g of space . Where is the crap hiding ? Disc utility agrees with me but the OS keeps spouting it's you have only 400mb of space warning ....
[19:07] <antoiner_roquent> I have done all of that and also have tested the microphone with the system utility for doing so.
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> michaelcore: strange, then it shouldn't look for WMP
[19:07] <tranquilwaters_> I want to flash villainrom on my samsung galaxy ace, but I am not sure which file goes where in heimdall-frontend
[19:07] <julie> deexannihilate, or you have another hardware problem that is causing this to happen, such as a motherboard or PCI issue
[19:07] <antoiner_roquent> BluesKaj, what does the command you suggested do exactly? I am new to using a console in Linux and have limited command line experience anyway.
[19:07] <losty> brown_fern i feel a lot at ease now!! lol - saying good bye to MS word!!
[19:08] <deexannihilate> julie: i'll just get a new computer. i'm tired of messing with this one. thanks for your help!
[19:08] <julie> deexannihilate,  no problem!
[19:08] <klownish> lol, wish I could just, go buy another pc :)
[19:08] <antoiner_roquent> Ha, me too.
[19:08] <nothingspecial> deexannihilate: Use it for something else
[19:08] <Pici> TER0RR: Hrm.. You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server, I'm not too keen on ipv6 issues myself. (it Just Worked™ on my VPS).
[19:08] <julie> well if it's 10 years old, it's overdue
[19:08] <kop> three...
[19:09] <deexannihilate> julie: i know. my netbook quit charging yesterday, so I was hoping to get this thing working for the time being.
[19:09] <kop> I dono Julie I still have Sun hardware in service that's over 10 years old but that's an exception
[19:09] <syafiq> hai
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> TER0RR: could blacklist ipv4 and see if its used
[19:09] <Koobilitoo> ok my cd rom wont access the dvd +r I put in it blank but if i go put it in my other pc the cd pops up as blank but after i put an iso on the same said DVD and pop back in here it reads it
[19:10] <Koobilitoo> its like it wont read DVD +r here on my ubuntu
[19:10] <syafiq> hai
[19:10] <julie> kop, I'm not saying you can't use old hardware, just that it's not worth anything anymore, so definitely no part replacement
[19:10] <klownish> deexannihilate, is it onboard sound?
[19:10] <Koobilitoo> blank DVD +R I mean
[19:10] <deexannihilate> klownish: what does that mean?
[19:10] <klownish> deexannihilate, is it connected to the motherboard, or a seperate card?
[19:11] <deexannihilate> klownish: separate card which was replaced about 3 years ago from the original
[19:11] <shinta> Hey can anyone help me with a duel boot with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.04
[19:11] <julie> klownish, he said he had it replaced 3 years ago
[19:11] <julie> :)
[19:12] <kop> julie, as long as my PII 350 passes packets it's a router as soon as I have to consider opening the case for any reason it becomes yard art
[19:12] <brown_fern> losty: I still use Microsoft Word on occasion with other people's computer systems simply because they don't have libreoffice installed, I'm really wanting this fix to work as that "spacing" problem is a real mess to contend with. :-/       Thank you for your help, I'm glad you were able to track that down!
[19:12] <klownish> deexannihilate, go buy a 10$ card from a computer store, unless you "need" excellent quality sound.  Then you dont have to trash the computer.
[19:12] <deexannihilate> klownish: any specific suggestions on cards or will any do?
[19:12] <julie> I agree kop, for routing it is probably sufficient
[19:12] <klownish> deexannihilate, one that works on your pc
[19:13] <deexannihilate> klownish: where can i research that information?
[19:13] <losty> brown_fern no worries! i have been trying different docs and so far coming up trumps. hope it works out for you!
[19:13] <shinta> Can anyone help me with setting up a duel boot of windows 7 and ubuntu 11.04 on the same hd but seperate partitions
[19:13] <kop> julie, however I have a couple of PIII dual boards that have a lil bit of sentimental as well as utility value that I will replace tha odd drive , ram stick . card in
[19:13] <klownish> deexannihilate, is it a custom built pc, or one from a store?
[19:14] <julie> deexannihilate, klownish: any PCI audio card would do
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> shinta: ask away
[19:14] <deexannihilate> klownish: store bought compaq presario
[19:14] <kop> deexannihilate, turtle beach !
[19:14] <julie> kop, when you already have replacement parts, it's a bit different
[19:14] <brown_fern> losty: I'm sure it will, I have some oldies to give this fix to! :)
[19:14] <k4r1m> anybody would know how can I access my mac encrypted home directory from ubuntu? I'm dual booting.
[19:14] <klownish> deexannihilate, as julie stated, any pci audio card.  go find the "cheapie box" at the local computer store
[19:14] <Koobilitoo> What setting do I need to set to make my DVD rom drive detect blank DVDS?
[19:14] <superfrogger79> hey guys sorry to interupt, but im setting up a dev server next to my pc, can anyone suggest a live cd that will install LAMP super easy for me? i plan to use ssh and ftp to manage and uplaod files to it afterwards. any suggestions? thanks :)
[19:14] <falah> hello
[19:15] <deexannihilate> klownish: thanks!
[19:15] <falah> ;->
[19:15] <shinta> actionparsnip i just reformated installed windows 7 onto a  small partition, now im trying to install ubuntu and i dont know what options to choose
[19:15] <klownish> Im having an issue with my display.  I have a nvidia gtx 260 with a vga resolution max of 2048x1536 , and my tv that its connected to has a max of 1,280 × 1,024, but 1280 x 1024 is not listed in my nvidia display settings.  I've tried usign xrandr to set the display and it is not working, says "configure crtc 0 failed"  anyone have any ideas?
[19:15] <BluesKaj> antoiner_roquent, as I said that command turns up the controls in alsamixer ... check your package manager , maybe you have pulseaudio installed which meant for highend soundcards
[19:15] <kop> julie, you've been paying attention all these years :D yes I have a "few" parts around here , heh
[19:15] <_Neytiri_> what services would require  postgres  to work properly, i am running a email server on my system and i noticed postgres was running and i have no need for it i am using dovecot
[19:16] <shinta> actionparsnip i click freespace  add and idk what to do
[19:16] <falah> may help me
[19:16] <BluesKaj> antoiner_roquent, pulseaudio sometimes causes no audio output unless you install pavcontrol
[19:16] <antoiner_roquent> Ok, thanks for the help BluesKaj I will check that out.
[19:16] <kop> julie, so what of my vanishing free space space issue ?
[19:16] <kop> This just isn't fair . I listened to the warning that my laptop had only 1g of space left and moved nearly 8g to the trash . After emptying the trash I have only 400mb of space left ?! I should have cleared close to 10 g of space . Where is the crap hiding ? Disc utility agrees with me but the OS keeps spouting it's you have only 400mb of space warning ....
[19:17] <falah> wat is download manager best for ubuntu
[19:17] <nothingspecial> k4r1m: I believe you have to turn off journaling in your hfs file system - but I have never used a mac
[19:17] <julie> kop, I would do du -s /*
[19:18] <nothingspecial> k4r1m: turn off = disable .... whatever
[19:18] <superfrogger79> anyone?
[19:18] <julie> kop, then recursively look at the biggest folders
[19:18] <Koobilitoo> not everyone gets answered in 10 seconds gotta  have patience :D
[19:18] <ricardo_> Hello, Can I make a question about C language in this forum?
[19:19] <aeon-ltd> ricardo_: no, #c
[19:19] <julie> kop, you could do a small shell script to find the biggest folders but it requires advanced scripting skills
[19:19] <k4r1m> nothingspecial: alright thanks
[19:20] <van7hu> hello
[19:20] <mongy> Does anyone know how I can restrict a user to only 1 login per login name?
[19:20] <van7hu> ,zip
[19:20] <van7hu> !zip
[19:20] <gmunk3y> hello
[19:20] <wildgoose> kop, Have you restarted? The notification could be buggy.
[19:20] <ricardo_> #c say: Exclusive for Guest's
[19:20] <klownish> ricardo_, register your nickname on the server
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> ricardo_: get registered and identify
[19:21] <gmunk3y> does anyone know how to modify the main panel? its overlapping all of my windows
[19:21] <brown_fern> superfrogger79: I am personally unfamiliar with LAMP but found this page with appears helpful for Ubuntu administrators.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[19:21] <Koobilitoo> I have a tricky situation to me concerning ubuntu
[19:21] <julie> wildgoose, kop: I doubt the problem would be the notification, but you can check with "df"
[19:21] <superfrogger79> brown_fern: thanks
[19:21] <julie> what is it Koobilitoo?
[19:21] <brown_fern> "with should read as "which"
[19:21] <Koobilitoo> I insert a DVD +R into the DVD drive and it doesnt recognize it
[19:22] <Koobilitoo> but that same DVD I go and burn an ISO onto on my other pc and put it back in here nad it recognizes it
[19:22] <metbsd> i have installed mplayer-gui, but how to start it?
[19:22] <Koobilitoo> Did u see all that Julie?
[19:22] <julie> Koobilitoo, what are you trying to do when inserting the blank DVD?
[19:23] <Koobilitoo> have it be recognized thats all
[19:23] <brown_fern> superfrogger79: Your welcome, I found that off of the See Also section of the wikipedia page for LAMP, which might also be helpful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_%28software_bundle%29
[19:23] <Koobilitoo> when insert same one it shows up on the desktop
[19:23] <Koobilitoo> afte i have burned an iso onto it
[19:23] <julie> Koobilitoo, if it's empty, it's normal it doesn't load it
[19:23] <Koobilitoo> only on this then cause it shows on Windows vista
[19:23] <julie> because it detects the filesystem
[19:23] <julie> but if it's blank it has nothing to do with it
[19:24] <Koobilitoo> ahhh ok no way to ge it to detect the DVD itself?
[19:24] <superfrogger79> brown_fern: ill have a look there, noob question, but will apt-get work without the internet? my dev server is so old it doesnt have a wifi card lol
[19:24] <sburwood1> I've an answer to the Belgian ID problem, but I still need help.  I'm using Natty (Firefox 4) but the site I want to connect to requires Firefox 3.6.  I don't want to install Firefox 3.6 for one use.  I was told that I could play around with the Firefox settings to bypass the SSL incompatibility.  What do I need to do?
[19:24] <julie> Koobilitoo, I don't see the point but I also don't think so
[19:24] <Koobilitoo> the point?
[19:24] <Koobilitoo> it idoesnt detect a blank dvd cant burn an iso to it
[19:24] <van7hu> could anyone suggest me a zip repair tool in ubuntu?
[19:25] <klownish> Im having an issue with my display.  I have a nvidia gtx 260 with a vga resolution max of 2048x1536 , and my tv that its connected to has a max of 1,280 × 1,024, but 1280 x 1024 is not listed in my nvidia display settings.  I've tried usign xrandr to set the display and it is not working, says "configure crtc 0 failed"  anyone have any ideas?
[19:25] <julie> Koobilitoo, the fact it's not showing on your desktop doesn't imply it can't write to it
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: there is a agent switcher, it may be able to make the site see an older version
[19:26] <meco> I have a PC that is suddenly running as if it's overloaded even though Firefox is the only running app! Could someone browse trough my 'ps lx' (http://pastebin.com/s7Hyrh9m) to check if there is some anomalous activity there? I'm running Natty on a 2 GHz P4 with 494 MB memory.
[19:26] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: You mean in a menu in my Firefox 4?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: yes, via an addon
[19:26] <NeedSomeHelp> Hello, minor problems with emesene. Everytime I log in I have to enter my nick and my status. Why cant it remember the nick and status ??
[19:26] <18VAAMCSI> i have installed mplayer-gui, but how to start it?
[19:26] <superfrogger79> klownish: xrandr is a world of pain, the documentation isnt great, just to warn you and good luck
[19:26] <klownish> superfrogger79, i've noticed.  Thanks for the warning, and the good luck :D
[19:27] <nit-wit> sburwood1, try the FF addon user agent switcher, set it for an IE.
[19:27] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: I'm open to almost anything.
[19:27] <scarleo> I'm having trouble creating a bootable USB with natty on a natty computer. It will boot but then it's just a lot of text scrolling by and it halts saying no init-something.
[19:27] <superfrogger79> klownish: no worries, thats what open source is all about ;)
[19:27] <julie> meco, ps -edalf please
[19:27] <scarleo> I' have already tried downloading again but it's still same result, both on amd64 and i386 versions
[19:27] <sburwood1> nit-wit: I need, apparently, either Firefox 3.6 or IE 8
[19:27] <meco> ok
[19:27] <julie> meco, but a top output would be nice
[19:27] <brown_fern> superfrogger79: I'm not familiar with the details of how apt-get works beyond the general, is your running commands such as "apt-cache showpkg" it might very well function by merely looking at you installed packages, but if your trying to use apt-get to its fullest, of course you'll need internet access, unless I've misread you?
[19:28] <rationalOgre> Koobilitoo: System>Preferences>Removable Drives & Media and see if "Burn a cd or dvd  when blank disk is inserted"
[19:28] <scarleo> I'm using startup disk creator
[19:28] <rationalOgre> is checked or unchecked
[19:28] <nit-wit> sburwood1, user agent switchet has IE 6,7,8
[19:28] <superfrogger79> brown_fern: no thats what i was asking, thanks for the explanation
[19:28] <sburwood1> nit-wit: The add on is called what?  'User agent'?
[19:28] <Koobilitoo> Rational yes It is.
[19:29] <Koobilitoo> but it wants a program put in the command line area
[19:29] <julie> meco, "top -b"
[19:29] <nit-wit> sburwood1, user agent switcher
[19:29] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: Thanks,
[19:29] <sburwood1> nit-wit: Thanks, I'll look into that
[19:30] <sburwood1> bye
[19:31] <julie> meco, you there?
[19:31] <wildgoose> klownish, This might help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112186
[19:31] <pawan> Hi guyz.. can anyone help me here
[19:32] <Koobilitoo> they probably can i'd suggest just asking the question :D
[19:32] <meco> julie: :ok
[19:32] <meco> I'll make a new paste :-)
[19:32] <bjorn_248> pawan, what Koobilitoo said :)
[19:32] <julie> Koobilitoo, you need to install a CD/DVD burning program
[19:32] <pawan> i m having problem instaling the video driver in my system for Ubuntu 10.04
[19:33] <Koobilitoo> I have a few
[19:33] <Koobilitoo> K3b
[19:33] <Koobilitoo> GnomeBaker
[19:33] <bjorn_248> pawan what is your video card?
[19:33] <pawan> i need driver for sis 760gx
[19:33] <myrmidette>  /join #xchat
[19:33] <julie> Koobilitoo, and what happens if you try to burn with a blank disk?
[19:33] <pawan> i know it sucks but i just a resolution of 1024 X 768
[19:33] <myrmidette> oops
[19:34] <Koobilitoo> well i never saw the blank one pop up on my desktop so I wasnt aware I could I will try to do it.
[19:34] <NeedSomeHelp> Hello, I have problems with emesene. Everytime I log in I have to enter my nick and my status, or its resets it to just my email. Why cant it remember the nick and status ??
[19:34] <pawan> max resolution offered in my system now is 960 X 600
[19:34] <nothingspecial> 18VAAMCSI: you should use smplayer or something similar if you want a gui for mplayer
[19:34] <pawan> pls help
[19:35] <meco> julie: http://pastebin.com/SJex6c15
[19:35] <SirMirman> hi
[19:35] <Zepid> Hi
[19:35] <julie> pawan, are you sure your system can support a greater resolution?
[19:35] <bjorn_248> pawan, have you tried a google search for the driver and installed it?
[19:36] <Zepid> And bye again, lol
[19:36] <Koobilitoo> loading K3b now
[19:36] <bjorn_248> perhaps try looking for restricted drivers?
[19:36] <Koobilitoo> ok it says no media present
[19:36] <tomekh> hi. is there a workaround to install mutt without postfix? ('apt-get install mutt' includes postfix which i don't want to get installed)
[19:36] <klownish> wildgoose, checking it out, thanks.
[19:36] <pawan> ya i have tried .. sis 760 gx vide card is the problem
[19:37] <Koobilitoo> I know the DVD is good and the drive is good
[19:37] <julie> meco, your system is swapping like hell
[19:37] <bjorn_248> pawan, have you tried looking in System, Administration, Hardware Drivers?
[19:37] <pawan> can anyone good at this have personal chat with me
[19:37] <eniac_> Absolute Classic Rock and  Rythmobox rocks!!! XD
[19:37] <llutz> tomekh: use apt-get --no-install-recommends ...
[19:37] <julie> meco, this means you should open less windows/programs or add more RAM
[19:38] <eniac_> Hi everyone
[19:38] <ubun> ActionParsnip: are you still here?
[19:38] <pawan> ok it reads .. No proprietary drivers installed on this system
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> ubun:sup
[19:38] <meco> julie: Well, I have 494MB but I'm only running Firefox, currently with two tabs and no flash...
[19:38] <tomekh> llutz: thanks. worked!
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> whats the best encrypt package to password protect folder, so root can't access?
[19:38] <celthunder> meco you have to be running something else to hit 494 mb...
[19:39] <Koobilitoo> I have 4 gigs total in system but the onboard video takes some away
[19:39] <meco> celthunder: But wouldn't that show up in top?
[19:39] <julie> meco, your firefox alone uses un  800MB
[19:39] <ubun> ActionParsnip: i verified with md5 and it checked out... checking cd as we speak... so if install of ubuntu fails its not with the cd must be a pc problem?
[19:39] <szal> meco: 512 MB is low-end these days
[19:39] <celthunder> lotuspsychje root can access pretty much anything on the system but truecrypt should encrypt it agains thtem doing anything with it
[19:39] <Koobilitoo> I got swiftfox!
[19:40] <meco> szal: OK, I wondered about that
[19:40] <celthunder> szal:  do they even make smaller sticks anymore
[19:40] <szal> meco: and if you're running Gnome or Unity w/ that, you're pretty much prone to run out of memory very quickly
[19:40] <julie> meco, if you don't increase your swap space, your system is actually at risk of running out of memory
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: tnx for the package, lemme test it
[19:40] <meco> However, the machine hasn't been this stressed until very recently.
[19:40] <Koobilitoo> ok well K3b doesnt recognize the dvd in the drive...
[19:40] <^cl0ud^> good afternoon can someone help me out with an issue I am having.. seems my PC is going into power savings after a few hours of use. Seems it cuts out my network transfer speed and hard drive speed and pc is downclocked to its bare minimum.. bios has power savings turned off.. any suggestions I can do within ubuntu?
[19:41] <julie> meco, it could be related on the pages you have opened in Firefox
[19:41] <^cl0ud^> as soon as I reboot PC it works fine then does the same thing after a few hours
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> ubun: exactly, please remember to MD5 test in future
[19:41] <meco> julie: Can I allocate more for swap easily?
[19:41] <szal> celthunder: depends on the type of RAM..  for SDRAM there's still smaller units around, for all sorts of DDR I don't know, DDR2 and DDR3 aren't available under 1 GB, to my knowledge
[19:41] <julie> meco, well do you have spare space on your drive?
[19:41] <celthunder> szal:  SDRAM is hella expensive now :) glad i have 2 boxes full in my closet
[19:42] <meco> julie: Wel,, I run Ubuntu on a 10GB partition, so there's only about 2.5 GB free right now
[19:42] <celthunder> szal:  but yeah ddr3 16000 is going for like 160$ for 24 GB
[19:42] <szal> celthunder: 512 MB SDRAM (largest available unit for non-buffered, non-ECC) is about as expensive as 4 GB DDR3
[19:42] <Koobilitoo> oh i have a 512 stick :D
[19:43] <ubun> ActionParsnip: i only have 512mb ram could that be a problem? its a computer i bought at a thrift store for $25 has windows2003server edition in it.... pentium4
[19:43] <Koobilitoo> and some real real small ones
[19:43] <mikebeecham> hi there....can someone help me with a problem. If I run glxgears I am getting a steady 60fps. However, every flash website / youtube video lags very very badly
[19:43] <szal> celthunder: I bought a 4 GB DDR3 RAM stick for €37 2 months ago
[19:43] <Koobilitoo> a 256 mb
[19:43] <celthunder> szal:  ...where?
[19:43] <szal> 10666, that is
[19:44] <szal> at a local dealer's
[19:44] <meco> !swap
[19:44] <celthunder> szal: ah...i used to pay distributor prices without markup...the guy i went through quit his job though
[19:44] <julie> meco, well you could add another 512MB of swap easily with: dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1048576 count=512; mkswap /swapfile; swapon /swapfile
[19:44] <klown> ugh, I dont know what I'm doing wrong, this is going to annoy me to no end.
[19:44] <meco> julie: Would that be permanent with that command?
[19:45] <szal> meco: what kind of machine is that anyway?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> ubun: 512Mb is plenty :)
[19:45] <szal> meco: 10 GB / is small, better enlarge that to 15
[19:45] <meco> szal: a 2GB P4
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> szal: I use 10b for /, it'sloads
[19:45] <meco> GHz even
[19:45] <^cl0ud^> Can anyone help me with my ubuntu issue when you have a chance. thanks
[19:45] <szal> P4, most likely DDR1
[19:45] <julie> meco, if you wish to make it permanent, just add another entry in /etc/fstab with the new swapfile (copy the current)
[19:45] <celthunder> szal:  if your / is over 10gb you've got WAY too much bloat
[19:45] <ubun> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tips... ill have to wait to get off of work to try again thank you....
[19:46] <celthunder> szal mine's currently 2.5GB
[19:46] <szal> celthunder: I haven't gotten that large yet, but just to make sure..
[19:46] <mrguser> hack nokia e63
[19:46] <katsumi32> anybody here who know how to use crunch ?
[19:46] <mrguser> hack nokia e63
[19:46] <klown> lol, mine is 492gb
[19:46] <beefman> what does "ERROR!!  RTMPSetTimer filed, Halt in Progress!" mean in dmesg?
[19:46] <klown> guess mine is too big.
[19:46] <celthunder> MrBushido, xda-developers.org?
[19:46] <BlouBlou> beefman: halt it's like shutdown
[19:46] <celthunder> er mrguser xda-developers.org
[19:46] <root1> wtf
[19:47] <mrguser> Video on  Youtube
[19:47] <beefman> what causes it?  it doesn't shut my machine down
[19:47] <celthunder> klown as long as that includes your /home it's fine
[19:47] <mrguser> Opera mini
[19:47] <beefman> why would it think halt in progress?
[19:47] <mrguser> hack nokia e63
[19:47] <mrguser> hack nokia e63
[19:47] <Pici> mrguser: do you have an *Ubuntu* support question?
[19:47] <katsumi32> i want to create word list A-Z can someone help me pls with it ?
[19:47] <celthunder> mrguser:  wrong channel bud...xda-developers.org probably can help you though
[19:47] <mrguser> Ucbrwoser suffring
[19:48] <szal> another 5 mins to cook for my cauliflower..
[19:48] <Koobilitoo> my problem still not solved lol
[19:48] <katsumi32> please
[19:48] <quantumlemur> I'm on a fresh install of 11.04, and sometimes my battery monitor displays an incorrect status.  Is there any way to reset it?
[19:48] <celthunder> katsumi32, like a dictionary?
[19:48] <Pici> katsumi32: You should have /usr/share/dict/words already
[19:49] <meco> julie: I got '/swapfile: Permission denied' and 'swapon: /swapfile: read swap header failed: Invalid argument'
[19:49] <celthunder> quantumlemur, what's acpi or apm report
[19:49] <julie> Koobilitoo, have you ever burned CDs with that computer?
[19:49] <katsumi32> like 8 char mean for example  dfreabcd but characters cant repeat
[19:49] <Koobilitoo> not on ubuntu here no
[19:49] <julie> meco, use sudo in front of each command then, or run everything as root
[19:49] <mikebeecham> hi there....can someone help me with a problem. If I run glxgears I am getting a steady 60fps. However, every flash website / youtube video lags very very badly
[19:49] <meco> Ah... I run everything as one command
[19:49] <celthunder> mikebeecham, turn off vsync what's glxgears show then
[19:50] <szal> mikebeecham: 60 fps in glxgears is sloooooooooooow..
[19:50] <xangua> mikebeecham: flash sucks on linux in general
[19:50] <celthunder> szal:  he has vsync on
[19:50] <katsumi32> calthunder can you help me with it ?
[19:50] <katsumi32> c
[19:50] <julie> meco, if you run it as root yes, otherwise do them one by one with sudo (commands are seperated by ";"
[19:50] <mikebeecham> celthunder, is that in nvidia options?
[19:51] <Koobilitoo> somehow need to tell ubuntu to recognize when a blank CD/DVD is put in
[19:51] <celthunder> mikebeecham, probably either that or in your xorg.conf if you have one
[19:51] <szal> my GT240 throws a bit over 5k fps
[19:51] <meco> OK, it worked now
[19:51] <quantumlemur> celthunder, acpi seems to report the correct charge capacity, but says "Unknown"
[19:51] <celthunder> Koobilitoo what're you using to write the cd/dvd does udisks see you put in the blank media?
[19:51] <julie> Koobilitoo, how about on the same machine with a different OS?
[19:51] <llutz> katsumi32: http://securitynotes.blogspot.com/2008/04/generate-wordlist.html
[19:51] <Koobilitoo> yes it works julie
[19:51] <szal> w/ effects enabled, that is
[19:51] <mikebeecham> celthunder, sorry mate, bear with me...is that "sync to vblank"? If so...should I turn off all of them? there's a few?
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: tnx again for truecrypt, looks very promising
[19:52] <BioS-615> Hi, guys, scoured the internet looking for an answer and everything I have found failed, trying to get Ubuntu 11.04 to run in Virtualbox and every time I go to update it gives me something about headers, gimme a second I'll fetch the exact contents of the error.
[19:52] <celthunder> loluspsychjc np
[19:52] <Koobilitoo> celthunder i have no idea how to run that
[19:52] <beefman> ok i may have found my problem
[19:52] <Koobilitoo> i know from terminal but what options?
[19:52] <celthunder> bios-615 install kernel-headers
[19:52] <BioS-615> How, sudo apt-get install kernel-headers?
[19:52] <celthunder> koobilitoo udisks --monitor insert the blank  media ...does it show up
[19:52] <meco> appreciate help/suggestions/info!
[19:53] <szal> celthunder: you might need to work on your nick tab completion-fu ;)
[19:53] <llutz> BioS-615: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[19:53] <beefman> if i unplug my usb nic, then rmmod rt3572sta, lsmod no longer shows it.  however, modprobe /lib/modules/......../net/wireless/rt3572sta.ko returns "FATAL: module /........./rt3572sta.ko not found."  the file is there
[19:53] <celthunder> szal yes i know :/ i'm using a relay client on my phone atm
[19:53] <beefman> but for some reason, 'modprobe rt3572sta' works
[19:53] <brown_fern> Koobilitoo: <----- could you please indicate who you're addressing? I'm trying to follow the discussion so that I might help if I can, it is hard to read without knowing who you're talking to.
[19:53] <beefman> any ideas?
[19:53] <celthunder> szal  which for whatever reason weechat doesn't send the right userlist too and lags like fuck
[19:53] <julie> meco, I'm glad it works, that should help a bit
[19:53] <BioS-615> It spits the same error out, E: Encountered a section with no Package: header followed by E: Problem with MergeList
[19:54] <Koobilitoo> I would if I knew how brown_Fern
[19:54] <celthunder> meco use a really light wm like openbox/xmonad/etc instead of gnome/kde and you'll have plenty of free ram
[19:54] <Koobilitoo> TO Celthunder: changed:     /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sr0
[19:54] <Koobilitoo> changed:     /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sr0
[19:54] <Koobilitoo> that is what it said
[19:54] <llutz> BioS-615: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[19:54] <dgags> beefman: can you do strace on the modprobe to make sure it is openeinng the file you thought it was?
[19:54] <mikebeecham> celthunder, I disabled all 'sync to vblank' now I get around 2879.659 fps...but flash websites are still really laggy
[19:54] <meco> celthunder: ok!
[19:54] <julie> Koobilitoo, celthunder: that confirms it does detect it
[19:54] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: ok good so it sees the cd/dvd
[19:55] <Somanayr> Hmm
[19:55] <mikebeecham> celthunder, ...and the gears keep stopping!
[19:55] <brown_fern> Koobilitoo: merely type that persons nickname and have it preface your comments.
[19:55] <Somanayr> Why doesn't the c++ channel work?
[19:55] <celthunder> mikebeecham: what graphics card/driveer do you have
[19:55] <kacheng> hello, I'm having some problems with my wifi connection to my router today.  Seemed fine until yesterday.  IBM thinkpad T42 with Intel 2200BG using ipw2200 driver.
[19:55] <beefman> dgags: with the path or without?
[19:55] <Koobilitoo> celthunder like this
[19:55] <mikebeecham> celthunder, nvidia 7600gt
[19:55] <szal> mikebeecham: what machine & gfx card?
[19:55] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: ok can you write to it with cdrkit?
[19:55] <mikebeecham> celthunder, the driver is the standard linux driver...HOWEVER
[19:55] <jbwiv> can someone tell me where on natty you configure what ntp server it points to? I see the ability to keep up to date from the internet, but not to configure the server?
[19:55] <Koobilitoo> Celthunder no idea I am not very familiar with the term commands
[19:55] <dgags> beefman: try both, see what it is opening...
[19:56] <julie> Koobilitoo, I'm leaving you in celthunder's expert hands :)
[19:56] <celthunder> jbwiv: /etc/ntpd?
[19:56] <Koobilitoo> Julie: Thank you kindly for your help
[19:56] <julie> :)
[19:56] <celthunder> julie: i'm not an expert lol merely a bored indivisual
[19:56] <szal> jbwiv: /etc/ntp.conf
[19:56] <Koobilitoo> a bored Expert
[19:56] <jbwiv> celthunder, isn't that to configure the server itself? I just want to tell my box where to look to get it's time
[19:56] <llutz> jbwiv: cat /etc/default/ntpdate
[19:56] <kacheng> I should also mention I'm on 11.04
[19:56] <mikebeecham> additional driver tells me that the recommended is activated but not currently in use
[19:56] <BernardV> jbwiv: /etc/ntp.conf
[19:56] <BioS-615> It throws out the same error, llutz, a bunch of W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[19:57] <Koobilitoo> CElthunder: Keb isnt acknowledging that there is media in the drive
[19:57] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: can you write to it with cdrkit?
[19:57] <julie> celthunder, it would have taken me a while to think of udisks
[19:57] <jbwiv> Thanks guys. Isn't there a gui for this tho? I can go the cmd line route, but we're distributing a how to to many of our employees and some of them will get lost
[19:57] <meco> celthunder: Should I perhaps consider installling lubuntu?
[19:57] <BioS-615> I've done everything right down to reinstalling Ubuntu, it still gives me problems, I'm downloading the alternate disc now to see if THAT'LL work.
[19:57] <dgags> beefman: i have to run...
[19:57] <celthunder> meco: just install a smaller wm no need to reinstall....
[19:57] <dgags> bbl
[19:57] <nasser> is there any gwibber user? how can i comment my friends publications?
[19:57] <beefman> dgags: ok thanks
[19:58] <Koobilitoo> Celthunder: I have no idea what "Cdrkit" is
[19:58] <meco> celthunder: OK. Is that hard to do?
[19:58] <caperz> hello
[19:58] <celthunder> meco pick a light one lxde openbox xmonad fluxbox stumpwm google pick one you like and install it
[19:58] <Koobilitoo> Celtunder: from the name i assume it has to do with CD/DVD's
[19:58] <kacheng> does anyone know why network manager would be stuck at authentication step?
[19:58] <celthunder> meco: also don't use nautilus and similar use lighter things like midnight commander etc
[19:59] <[SpitfirE]> Hey guys, I just tried to install Ubuntu from a livedisk, though it worked. But then rebooted. Now im getting the following message: "(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error - Cannot mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs"
[19:59] <[SpitfirE]> Does anyone know how I can rectify this problem/
[19:59] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: cdrkit should be whawt k3b relies on to write to the disk anyway
[19:59] <meco> celthunder: ok
[19:59] <BernardV> jbwiv: Not on Natty yet, but can;t you select the servers in the "Time and Date Settings" ?
[19:59] <mikebeecham> celthunder, after disabling "sync to vblank", should I be logging out and in again?
[19:59] <caperz> Anyone: is gnome,ggzgamingzone.org still alive?
[20:00] <Koobilitoo> Celt: I have K3b open now it says No media present but we already know it sees the DVD through terminal commands
[20:00] <caperz> I am trying to play glchess
[20:00] <jbwiv> BernardV, no, I don't see a way to
[20:00] <BernardV> jbwiv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[20:00] <BioS-615> Every time I try to sudo apt-get update I get several W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Bad header line [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]  lines.
[20:00] <BioS-615> Any ideas? I've done everything.
[20:01] <jayer89> celthunder ive sorted out my problem my self
[20:01] <jayer89> i just reinstalled
[20:01] <wildc4rd> Hi all, am running ubuntu on an aspire one netbook, I seem to have disabled wifi, any thoughts on how to re-enable it?
[20:01] <celthunder> jayer89: that's not much of a solution...but which problem were yo uhaving
[20:02] <jayer89> it just wouldnt allow me to change my resolution
[20:02] <prezes> hello.how to permanently turn on terminal beep in ubuntu 10.10?
[20:02] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: run k3b as root please (gksu k3b) does it then show the media
[20:02] <kacheng> BioS-615, try changing repositories?
[20:02] <jayer89> but now its fine
[20:02] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: (testing permissions of your user now)
[20:02] <BioS-615> kacheng How would I go about doing that? I opened http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en in a web browser and it isn't there.
[20:03] <celthunder> jayer89: glad you got it sorted.
[20:03] <kacheng> Are you on Natty
[20:03] <kacheng> either way, open synaptic
[20:03] <celthunder> mikebeecham: no logging out/in shouldn't matter...and how taxed is your video card atm?
[20:03] <undecim> If I have a hard drive that will not always be in the computer, what line should I use in fstab?
[20:03] <BioS-615> Yes, 11.04. In a virtual machine running latest Vbox and additions immediately after install. Nothing has been updated because of this.
[20:03] <prezes> hello everybody.can somebody help me please. how to permanently turn on terminal beep in ubuntu 10.10?
[20:03] <undecim> undecim: or rather, what option?
[20:03] <Koobilitoo> Celtthunder: I did as asked and it still doesnt acknowledge medis is present
[20:03] <mikebeecham> celthunder, how can I tell mate?
[20:03] <jbwiv> BernardV, does that work for you on Natty?
[20:04] <BernardV> jbwiv: I'm not on natty.. So can't test for you..
[20:04] <BioS-615> Holy cats synaptic opened.
[20:04] <celthunder> undecim: make a udev rule ?  you can add it to fstab as well and then it just wont automount unless it's there
[20:04] <jbwiv> BernardV, k, thx. doesn't seem to work there...
[20:04] <BioS-615> kacheng should I uncheck any of the boxes under Downloadable from the Internet?
[20:04] <undecim> celthunder: So there's no way to add it to fstab and allow the mount to fail?
[20:05] <kacheng> hang on
[20:05] <undecim> celthunder: Actually, in wording that question, I found the search that lead me to find the answer in the mount manual....
[20:05] <celthunder> mikebeecham: undecim i said that you can ad it it just won't mount automatically if it's not htere
[20:05] <brown_fern> nasser: I don't use gwibber myself, but the following page may be helpful to you. Note the FAQ and Discussion links. https://launchpad.net/gwibber
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> undecim: try pysdm for GUI fstab tool
[20:06] <Koobilitoo> i wonder if Braseroo will detect it?
[20:06] <celthunder> er mikebeecham sorr ydidn't mean to tag you in that last one http://superuser.com/questions/133844/how-to-test-video-card-memory
[20:06] <kacheng> is it just the translation files that don't download?
[20:06] <nasser> ok
[20:06] <nasser> thanks brown_fern
[20:06] <undecim> lotuspsychje: Next time I have a GUI, I'll use that XD
[20:06] <mikebeecham> celthunder, you're multitasking...I understand :D
[20:06] <Koobilitoo> or gnome baker
[20:06] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: one sec
[20:06] <^cl0ud^> Can someone tell me why ubuntu is power saving?
[20:07] <Koobilitoo> Celt: OK
[20:07] <^cl0ud^> can I disable that?
[20:07] <undecim> ^cl0ud^: Are you on a laptop?
[20:07] <BioS-615> kacheng I believe so, sometimes I get other errors I can't remember off the top of my head, but Synaptic wouldn't open before without spitting an error, now its open and downloading. Strange.
[20:07] <^cl0ud^> using ubuntu server 10.10 .. no its 1 of those new AMD APU
[20:07] <mikebeecham> celthunder, mate...you linked me to windows applications?
[20:07] <BernardV> undecim: You can add an fstab line on uuid.. that should work
[20:07] <kacheng> yeah, maybe your repository was down for a bit, and now it's back.  happens sometimes
[20:08] <^cl0ud^> kind of like an atom
[20:08] <celthunder> mikebeecham: i just googled video test
[20:08] <kacheng> just alter your download from server to see if a different mirror is working better
[20:08] <undecim> BernardV: Using a UUID will cause it to ignore failed mounts?
[20:08] <kacheng> next time
[20:08] <BioS-615> kacheng Even stranger, theres nothing under the categories list, just All.
[20:08] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: wodim -checkdrive
[20:08] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: does that fail?
[20:08] <BernardV> If uuid isn;t there it will not mount
[20:08] <mikebeecham> ahhh ok
[20:08] <llutz> undecim: use "noauto" option in fstab
[20:08] <Koobilitoo> no it works
[20:08] <kacheng> BioS-615 that is a bit weird
[20:08] <BioS-615> kacheng Scratch that, human error.
[20:09] <Koobilitoo> CELT: It worked sorry
[20:09] <celthunder> mikebeecham: i believe phorenix tests are for linux..
[20:09] <BioS-615> kacheng Even though when I click Mark All Upgrades, nothing happens. And this is a fresh install.
[20:09] <undecim> llutz: Yeah, I've already found that... As I was asking a question about the answer I was given to the question
[20:09] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: wodm didn't report any errors? ok that's a good start
[20:09] <kacheng> The install process may have downloaded updates already
[20:10] <undecim> llutz: Actually... it was nofail that I found...
[20:10] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: are you trying to burn an iso file?
[20:10] <brown_fern> nasser: Your welcome, but I've since followed the link to that FAQ and it mostly concerns installation of that application, you're wanting to know how to run it, right? I'll keep looking.
[20:10] <undecim> llutz: Because I need automatic when it's there...
[20:10] <Koobilitoo> CELT: I'd liek to do that :D
[20:10] <theadmin> Koobilitoo: What OS are you using?
[20:10] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: wodim -v dev=/dev/sr0 isoimage.iso
[20:10] <BioS-615> kacheng I broke it again, Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  0  Ok [IP: 91.189.88.45 80] among others, had the sources unchecked.
[20:10] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: does that work?
[20:10] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: or if it quits does it give an error
[20:10] <Koobilitoo> celt: not in the 2 seconds u typed it then asked
[20:10] <kacheng> you can test by installing chrome-browser or something like that.
[20:11] <kacheng> try a different repository server - perhaps a university close to you
[20:11] <Koobilitoo> Celt: so am I typing that to burn an iso to the drive?
[20:11] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: yes
[20:11] <BioS-615> kacheng synaptic closed on me with an error. Hang on, trying a different repo.
[20:11] <kacheng> Anyone had problems with wifi connection recently on Natty?
[20:11] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: replace the isoimage.iso with your iso obviously
[20:11] <theadmin> kacheng: Everyone :D
[20:11] <theadmin> kacheng: wi-fi + ubuntu = arrrgh
[20:11] <celthunder> kacheng: chipset/modules being used/network manager used?
[20:12] <BernardV> Grrrrr... Just dropt my 7" touchscreen for an mini2440 dev board...
[20:12] <kacheng> ipw2200 network manager (the default one)
[20:12] <BioS-615> kacheng, This error now. E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-updates_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[20:12] <BioS-615> This is whats been causing all my problems.
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> kacheng: i also have wifi disconnects but cant see if they natty related or not
[20:13] <celthunder> kacheng: do you have the ipw firmware
[20:13] <moah> hello, I'm using 10.04 and today youtube stopped working, does anybody on 10.04 hat the same problem?
[20:13] <celthunder> lotuspsychje: anything in the logs?
[20:13] <Koobilitoo> looks like it might be working
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: im not sure what to look for
[20:13] <szal> [20:54:34] <llutz> BioS-615: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[20:13] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: :) there you go then
[20:13] <Koobilitoo> celt: Nope it didnt working
[20:13] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: awe i liked the it worked responce better...what's the error
[20:13] <Koobilitoo> celt:  No disk / Wrong disk!
[20:13] <kacheng> BioS-615 start by unchecking everything, and then adding them back one by one?
[20:13] <BioS-615> szal I did that already, and every other solution like that, even reinstalled.
[20:13] <Koobilitoo> but there is a blank DVD in ther eit alread recofnized!
[20:14] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: did you try a few other blank dvd/cd's
[20:14] <kacheng> celthunder: no - tell me more please/
[20:14] <Koobilitoo> its not the dvd
[20:14] <Koobilitoo> its ubuntu
[20:14] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: humor me grab a blank cd and try
[20:14] <celthunder> kacheng: apt-get install ipw2000-firmware or whatever..i'm fiarly sure that chipset needs it
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: i have a Ralink corp. RT2800 802.11n PCI on natty 64 bit
[20:15] <Koobilitoo> CELT: OK :D HOLD ON
[20:15] <eiriksvin> hello, I have a question: how do I find out why my splash screen isn't showing
[20:15] <celthunder> lotuspsychje: that should work fine...ralinks usually very cooperative with linux
[20:15] <kacheng> celthunder: was actually working fine until today for the last month, but I'll try reinstalling that package
[20:15] <celthunder> eiriksvin: enable -splash and -quiet in grub
[20:16] <BioS-615> kacheng I switched to the Duke university server and I still get the same error, E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.linux.duke.edu_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: wifi works fine too, but twice a day it disconnects me (not sure what line to search for in syslogs)
[20:16] <eiriksvin> celthunder: how do I access grub?
[20:17] <^cl0ud^> can someone pm me and help me with my power saving ubuntu issue much appreciated. thanks
[20:17] <klown> resolution is not what I wanted but it works, thanks to everyone who helped :)
[20:17] <celthunder> eiriksvin: idk i use grub-legacy...google for grub2 or i think theres a ubuntu wiki on it
[20:17] <je0rjey>  does anybody have the source code of implementation of any of the time synchronization protocol for wireless sensor networks?..
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> !grub2 | eiriksvin
[20:17] <kacheng> BioS-615: sounds weird  try another repository still? I haven't seen that message before
[20:17] <celthunder> lotuspsychje: ok uhm well does your network manager have a seperate log
[20:17] <Guthur> has anyone got a wacom bamboo fully functional on 10.04, I can't seem to solve the issue where pressing the buttons on the tablet causes the cursor to move to the top left of the screen
[20:18] <Guthur> this issue here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1472699.html
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: lemme check
[20:18] <chickadee> Question: If you have a hdd plugged into an ide controller inside a system and do not immediately know what the partition label is, how do you find out what the partition label is w/o physically removing the hdd and re-plugging it back into another system so you can properly mount it so that the system it is installed in, can see it?
[20:18] <celthunder> je0rjey: you mean ntp?
[20:18] <conncorde> i looking to a way to get my phone a firmware upgrade
[20:19] <celthunder> conncorde: what phone
[20:19] <klown> conncorde, what kind of phone?
[20:19] <je0rjey> celthunder, anything .. but could be better if new ones like RBS or TPSN..
[20:19] <celthunder> chickadee: fdisk?
[20:19] <conncorde> samsung Galaxy S
[20:19] <conncorde> the forums have no anwsers
[20:19] <klown> conncorde, try #android, or #android-root
[20:19] <celthunder> conncorde: xda-developers.org
[20:19] <je0rjey> and in any language for that matter..
[20:20] <celthunder> je0rjey: look for git repo's for them? or subversion repo's
[20:20] <chickadee> celthunder: fdisk only gives options to perform various functions. which menu option tells you what the partition label of the hdd is?
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: NetworkManager[866]: supplicant_interface_acquire: assertion `mgr_state == NM_SUPPLICANT_MANAGER_STATE_IDLE' failed
[20:20] <Koobilitoo> CELT: OK fresh brand new blank dvd inserted retyped the wodim thing
[20:20] <celthunder> chickadee: yeah it should also have let you set / see the label...udisks should also show it
[20:21] <celthunder> chickadee: udev should see it it should be in /dev/devices/by-<whatever>
[20:21] <Koobilitoo> Celt: still says No Disk / Wrong Disk
[20:21] <BioS-615> kacheng: Tried different repo from texas, gives me E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.utexas.edu_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[20:21] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: kk well idk then :/
[20:21] <je0rjey> celthunder, how do i search in a git?,,
[20:21] <je0rjey> do i have to install any software?
[20:21] <celthunder> je0rjey: install git and build-essential
[20:22] <Koobilitoo> Celt: isnt there something I need to set unbuntu to to recognize blank DVDs on ?
[20:22] <Pici> je0rjey: The package name is git-core iirc.
[20:22] <chickadee> celthunder : how do you use udev to perform this function?
[20:22] <kacheng> BioS-615: not sure what to suggest.  try university waterloo?
[20:23] <celthunder> Koobilitoo: ?
[20:23] <celthunder> je0rjey: one sec i'm looking
[20:23] <je0rjey> celthunder, do i get codes in matlab ,ns2 or other simulating languages in git or is it restricted to general langs like c,java?..
[20:24] <Kenty22> Help. Screen blinks black when I login, and drops back to login screen. I tried to apply most xorg fixes in forum threads, and even pasted X11 folder from a working 10.04 install with no changes to the problem. The last lines of the "text" that blinks before dropping back is "ome directory /etc/timidity/ not ours".
[20:24] <Koobilitoo> celt: some setting in ubuntu obviously isnt set right somehow if it wont do what it suposed to
[20:24] <eiriksvin> ok, I only have Ubuntu on this machine, when I first updated to 11.04 it showed the ubuntu splash screen, now it don't how do I get it back... so my screen isn't just black for a bit before Ubuntu Login screen pops up
[20:25] <BioS-615> kacheng: Still the same error, I'm almost done downloading the alternate ubuntu CD so I'll try that and see what happens,.
[20:25] <celthunder> je0rjey: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SoftwareDevelopment for ntp idk about the other 2 you just listed proably have similar ont here own sites
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: http://pastebin.com/hygKWrSx
[20:25] <kacheng> BioS-615 good luck.  weird problem.  double check your MD5 sums
[20:26] <frederik__> sers
[20:26] <kacheng> celthunder: that package ipw2200-firmware doesn't seem to exist? I found firmware on sourceforge, but it says that the drivers have been merged to the kernel and no longer maintained on sourceforge by intel
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> kacheng: did you check synaptic for those drivers?
[20:27] <vortex> hey guys, i just added "sudo ufw deny 80" which should block tcp/udp on port 80 but i am still able to access the internet. Any ideas why?
[20:27] <celthunder> kacheng: ok then was just an idea
[20:27] <brown_fern> ^cl0ud^: Could you state the difficulty you're having, maybe some here can help you. From what I can gather, you're on a Ubuntu server 10.10 AMD system having problems with "power saving," I don't run a server myself, but was interested to have a description of the problem stated.
[20:28] <kacheng> lotuspsychje: do i need backports?
[20:28] <celthunder> lotuspsychje:  not sure...
[20:29] <kacheng> celthunder: thanks - existing driver seems okay.  but just doesn't want to connect to my router.
[20:29] <celthunder> lotuspsychje: does it do that if you use iwconfig and ifconfig and dhcpcd or dhclient instead of networkamanger?
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: not sure its a natty problem, when i reboot my router wifi workd fine again...
[20:29] <celthunder> lotuspsychje: yeah a broken router doesn't help
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> kacheng: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1100155
[20:31] <Koobilitoo> Celt: Thanks for you assitance :D
[20:31] <Guest39761> is this a good place for tech help?
[20:31] <Koobilitoo> for ubuntu questions
[20:31] <Guest39761> good
[20:32] <Guest39761> I have a ubuntu/Bitnami VM and all is well with vhosts and such. Just wondering if I'm missing .conf file for ldap/php
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> celthunder: tnx again for help
[20:33] <frederik__> np
[20:33] <eiriksvin> Guest39761 please /nick anything-other-than-Guest39761
[20:33] <kacheng> lotuspsycheje: thanks will try reinstall of kernel packages
[20:33] <Guest39761> enterprise admins can login to the linux box via ldap
[20:33] <Guest39761> but that is it
[20:33] <frederik__> sers
[20:34] <Guest39761> also anybody else having issues with compiz and natty?
[20:34] <eiriksvin> Guest39761 please /nick anything-other-than-Guest39761
[20:34] <vortex> Unity > gnome
[20:34] <p6209> yo, when building your own .deb packages, how do i stop other programs from overwriting my package's conf files?
[20:35] <vortex> exit
[20:35] <vortex> quit
[20:37] <ttwhy> Hi, i have a strange problem with my wlan. it connect 3 times to my wlan router, and disconnects after a couple of minutes all connections
[20:37] <ttwhy> but i only have one configured connection
[20:37] <EncRyptO> update
[20:37] <Guest39761> yup, firmware
[20:38] <eiriksvin> Guest39761 please /nick anything-other-than-Guest39761
[20:38] <ttwhy> uodate my firmware?
[20:38] <oCean> eiriksvin: don't keep asking that
[20:38] <eiriksvin> its auto
[20:38] <oCean> eiriksvin: in that case, disable that
[20:38] <celthunder> p6209: make them read only
[20:39] <eiriksvin> I like to see nicks
[20:39] <oCean> eiriksvin: there are *many* guests here, your constant asking might make them feel uncomfortable. Please disable it
[20:39] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, if you gor access to your router then reset it
[20:40] <koshie> eightdot, Guest***** is a nick :>
[20:40] <koshie> (hi)
[20:40] <okok_new> I'm tryingto install ubuntu on my laptop, i've got a problem and it doesn't detext my screen but I'm in text mode with it
[20:40] <eiriksvin> thats why I have it ask
[20:40] <okok_new> can I start the instalation in text mode from console
[20:40] <okok_new> ?
[20:40] <koshie> okok_new, what is your graphic card ?
[20:40] <eiriksvin> so I can see anything other than a number
[20:40] <p6209> thanks celthunder, did not think of that at all.
[20:40] <koshie> okok_new, you can try an alternate install
[20:40] <ttwhy> EncRyptO, on the router side?
[20:41] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, yes
[20:41] <nifon> ενεργοποιησα κατα λαθος το ξουβουντυ.πως μπορω να γυρισω σε υμπουντου?
[20:41] <okok_new> what will be the command to start the instalation from console?
[20:41] <koshie> okok_new, but before give me your graphic card, type lspci | grep "VGA" and give me the line.
[20:41] <koshie> okok_new, Do you read me ?
[20:41] <brown_fern> ttwhy: Would your router be a Linksys brand device? I've heard that some Linksys hardware acts in the way you described, dropping connections and so on.
[20:42] <oCean> !gr | nifon
[20:42] <EirikSivnGuest> blah blah blah wah wah wah
[20:42] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, the reason i say is because i dont know what network you have or how many computers you got connected to the ap
[20:43] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, someone could be deauthenticating you
[20:43] <mightymizo> lkh
[20:43] <ttwhy> brown_fern, nope its not a linksys device. i think its more related to my chipset
[20:43] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, bumping you off that ap
[20:43] <brown_fern> ttwhy: I just thought I'd ask.
[20:43] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, chipset in card or computer?
[20:44] <Koobolitoo> I did see something on Ubuntus main site that allows you to compile your kernel to your specifications but u need to know what u are doing.
[20:44] <jsmith396> is it possible to have upstart scripts start in a custom order?
[20:44] <celthunder> Koobolitoo: kernel.org
[20:44] <okok_new> http://www.which.co.uk/technology/computing/reviews/laptops/hp-g62/specifications/
[20:44] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, meaning internal or external chipset
[20:44] <koshie> Koobolitoo, what do you want to do that ?
[20:44] <okok_new> I can not use | from my keyboard
[20:44] <koshie> okok_new, oO
[20:44] <koshie> Really ? :)
[20:44] <nextgens> is there a way to force-upgrade all the package to the version present in a ppa?
[20:44] <brianmbi1> chron
[20:45] <blargg> What's a good *small* (say 100MB or less) bootable Ubuntu for a USB stick? Even if there's no GUI, just a shell. I looked at some Debian offerings (since Ubuntu is based on it) but the smallest is around 300MB.
[20:45]  * nextgens is trying to use xorg-edgers on natty
[20:45] <ttwhy> EncRyptO, its a rtl8192ce crap onboard laptop chipset
[20:45] <celthunder> blargg: tinycore linux is about 8mb
[20:45] <koshie> blargg, alternate installation without GUI ?
[20:45] <koshie> okok_new, the webpage's downloading…
[20:45] <okok_new> kodapa I'm on another laptop here... I don'tknow why it doesn't take that key
[20:46] <robin0800_> blargg, ubuntu minimal
[20:46] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, are you connecting to a secured or unsecured ap?
[20:46] <koshie> okok_new, please, just give me the name of your graphic card :)
[20:46] <ttwhy> unsecure
[20:46] <koshie> Because it's loading again and again
[20:46] <llutz> blargg: what about grml-small? http://grml.org/
[20:46] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, because you can try to run dhclient from the command line to connect
[20:47] <Ania> hi :P
[20:47] <koshie> Hi Ania
[20:47] <ttwhy> EncRyptO, i will try that
[20:47] <^cl0ud^> brown_fern: bios has power savings disabled... but when I just go into ubuntu everything seems snappy. network speed is fast and hard drive proformance is great. after a few hours it looks like it kicks into power saving mode.
[20:47] <n-iCe> under 60% signal strenght I can't surf the web, the ap connects but I can't even send a ping, any ideas why? I am using an alfa awus036h antena 5dbi
[20:47] <Ania> haw are you ?;P
[20:47] <okok_new> koshie GMA HD 3150
[20:47] <koshie> Ania, fine :),  but not the good channel to speak about that ^^
[20:47] <koshie> okok_new, Ok, Intel so ?
[20:47] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, dhclient wlan0      .... whatever your winterface is.
[20:48] <Koobolitoo> CELT: I meant this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[20:48] <brown_fern> blargg: For your reading. However 100 MB is very small. You might want to read the actual page and then follow those links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_linux#See_also
[20:48] <koshie> okok_new, I've forget… What is the release of Ubuntu ?
[20:48] <okok_new> I boot in text mode with the live dvd
[20:48] <szal> n-iCe: that can have all sorts of reasons, even in the way the place you're at is built
[20:48] <rly> koshie: 11.04
[20:48] <koshie> okok_new, and the release ?
[20:48] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, I suppose the iwconfig already has the essid set to whatever the routers broadcast name is
[20:48] <koshie> rly, :o ?
[20:48] <koshie> rly, He have say that before ?
[20:48] <okok_new> but now I've got just a terminal open and I dont don't know how to start the instalation
[20:49] <rly> koshie: Natty then.
[20:49] <celthunder> blargg: tinycore (8mb) lfs (5-8mb) are the two smallest i can think of
[20:49] <n-iCe> szal: but in different places, in different AP's if I Don't have at least 60% signal strenght the internet doesn't work
[20:49] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, so dhclient wlan0   ....that should connect if not then run ifconfig wlan0 down
[20:49] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, then ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:49] <koshie> okok_new, what is the version of Ubuntu ?
[20:49] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, then try to connect again
[20:50] <okok_new> I've got a dvd from next year
[20:50] <koshie> 10.04 / 10.10 ?
[20:50] <celthunder> okok_new: ?
[20:50] <okok_new> don'tknow to be honest I'm sorry
[20:50] <rly> n-iCe: that is odd. It should work stable even at 5%.
[20:50] <ttwhy> EncRyptO, dhclient wlan0 gets the same ip, without delay
[20:50] <koshie> okok_new, can you type
[20:50] <Koobolitoo> How did u reach into the future and get a DVD from next year?
[20:50] <n-iCe> rly: what could it be?
[20:50] <koshie> cat /etc/lsb-release on live CD ?
[20:50] <ttwhy> but atm iam only connected with on ip
[20:50] <eiriksvin> [<EirikSivnGuest> blah blah blah wah wah wah] + [* EirikSivnGuest (~william@204.111.96.98) has left #ubuntu ("Ex-Chat")] + [* [Koobolitoo] (~william@204.111.96.98): Koobinomix > *]  = Seriously Disturbed Sociopath
[20:50] <ttwhy> whats good ;)
[20:50] <blargg>  What's a good *small* (say 100MB or less) bootable Ubuntu for a USB stick? Even if there's no GUI, just a shell. I looked at some Debian offerings (since Ubuntu is based on it) but the smallest is around 300MB. Purpose is for recovery in case my HDD doesn't boot.
[20:50] <EncRyptO> ttwhy, so it works now?
[20:50] <ttwhy> will see how long this take
[20:50] <rly> n-iCe: what hardware?
[20:51] <koshie> okok_new, don't paste here, just say the DISTRIB_RELEASE= line
[20:51] <ttwhy> EncRyptO, atm it works
[20:51] <rly> n-iCe: by that I mean, which chip.
[20:51] <jsmith396> is it possible to have upstart scripts start in a custom order?
[20:51] <okok_new> koshie thanks, it's ubuntu 8.10
[20:51] <koshie> :o
[20:51] <anlek> I'm unable to do a apt-get update on ubuntu 9.04 because of the out dated sources, where can I get newer ones?
[20:51] <abernier> hi, while upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 (natty), my computer switched-off before it can finish the upgrade... now I can start ubuntu but without any window, just the mouse — the logout window still works when I clic on the power button. How can I continue, or maybe redo an upgrade in order to fix my distro ?
[20:51] <okok_new> intrepid
[20:51] <^cl0ud^> how can I disable power management in ubuntu server?
[20:51] <ttwhy> thanks EncRyptO ... hope it will do so for a longer time ;)
[20:51] <koshie> okok_new, seriously, try a new version of Ubuntu
[20:51] <rly> jsmith396: that is not your real question, likely.
[20:51] <aqfiri> i type sudo apt -get autoremove faild say your root what meen
[20:51] <koshie> 10.04, minimum
[20:51] <okok_new> I'm gettin now down the 11
[20:51] <n00blet> hi can someone here help me?
[20:52] <rly> jsmith396: you can always replace upstart with something else if you want.
[20:52] <szal> okok_new: you can throw that away, that hasn't been supported for 1.5 years
[20:52] <xangua> okok_new: upgrade to a suported distro
[20:52] <okok_new> I tought there is a command to save some time
[20:52] <celthunder> n00blet: what's the problem
[20:52] <jsmith396> rly: well, one upstart job starts a server that another connects to
[20:52] <jsmith396> rly:  i like the upstart can automatically restart jobs, etc.
[20:52] <km1> what is the name of system test pid so i can kill it?
[20:52] <koshie> okok_new, or 11.04 yes, maybe it should work
[20:52] <rly> jsmith396: it is not smart to depend on that feature.
[20:52] <EncRyptO> ttwhy,  ok,
[20:53] <koshie> km1, type ps aux | grep "nameofyhesoftware"
[20:53] <n00blet> i just bought an hp dm1z and tried installing ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 and neither of them worked. the wifi wouldnt connect and my touchpad was wiggy
[20:53] <koshie> and you have the PID
[20:53] <celthunder> abernier: go to a terminal apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:53] <n00blet> i looked on the forums and there were some fixes but I couldnt get them to work
[20:53] <km1> why it shows gathering info but it does nothing
[20:53] <jsmith396> rly: oh, i didnt know... whats a better alternative ?
[20:53] <rly> jsmith396: you also did not specify why you want it to run in a certain order.
[20:53] <EncRyptO> n00blet, you tried to install from usb?
[20:53] <n00blet> so I was wondering if I used Wubi through windows would it share the drivers? Or would it still have the same problem.
[20:53] <rly> jsmith396: custom programming.
[20:53] <n00blet> and yes I did
[20:53] <blargg> jsmith396, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html seems to answer your question. See the "start on" section
[20:53] <km1> iam trying ot find out the name of the pid
[20:53] <n00blet> full clean install
[20:53] <jsmith396> rly:  yes, i did, a few lines up...  one job starts a daemon that another job connects to
[20:54] <koshie> km1, type ps aux | grep "nameofthesoftware"
[20:54] <koshie> km1, like ps aux | grep "firefox"
[20:54] <rly> jsmith396: there is no concept of a job connecting to another job.
[20:54] <anlek> How can I upgrade Jaunty? When I use do-release-upgrade I get: An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool.
[20:54] <EncRyptO> n00blet, what is not working the drivers?
[20:54] <jsmith396> blargg:  thanks... i thought i tried that but that only worked for special (ie. system) jobs
[20:54] <koshie> koshie    1767  1.7 18.4 554884 188152 pts/0   Sl   Jun07  26:29 ./firefox-bin << PID is 1767
[20:54] <brown_fern> ^cl0ud^: I cannot personally help you with this problem as I wouldn't know where to begin. Thank you for restating the problem.
[20:54] <km1> only if i know the name for the "system testing"
[20:55] <koshie> km1, what is system testing ?
[20:55] <bU1337Pr00f> Does anyone now of a good IRC services package already in the repos?
[20:55] <n00blet> Yea, the Wireless card I guess isn't supported Im using a ralink 5390 card
[20:55] <aqfiri> how to fix ubunto lucid in terminal
[20:55] <blargg> jsmith396, oh, maybe so. That page isn't very clear on what it means by job.
[20:55] <n00blet> and i read on the the forums it has problems
[20:55] <km1> don't know. it under the system gui
[20:55] <ubuntuguy> How do I set up bluetooth in ubuntu/
[20:55] <n00blet> I tried applying the openSUSE patch but in terminal it gives me errors
[20:55] <jsmith396> rly:  i see what you're doing, but i thought my problem was simple.  i just need one application to start before another
[20:55] <ubuntuguy> ?
[20:55] <koshie> km1, In an other case, just try ps aux, wordy but you have all PID
[20:55] <guntbert> anlek: jaunty is eol. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[20:55] <n00blet> saying that it doesn't have a patch command
[20:55] <rly> jsmith396: so, you run them in rc.local.
[20:56] <km1> i just click to launch and i can't remove the gui
[20:56] <anlek> guntbert: understood, but I can't seem to upgrade it.
[20:56] <EncRyptO> n00blet, ubuntu is debian based
[20:56] <koshie> km1, what is the name of the software, exactly ?
[20:56] <guntbert> anlek: please see the instructions ^^^
[20:56] <jsmith396> rly:  gotcha - thanks
[20:56] <rly> jsmith396: and if you want the restarting logic, you build a simple controller program which does that.
[20:56] <rly> jsmith396: you can depend on Ubuntu, but well, Ubuntu can break.
[20:56] <robin0800> jsmith396, its simple to delay a startup application if that helps
[20:57] <n00blet> am I allowed to post URLS here
[20:57] <rly> jsmith396: (that recently happened with cron, IIRC)
[20:57] <km1> if you click on the ubuntu system > system testing (will see it there)
[20:57] <jsmith396> i've seen sample init scripts that do that, but i was just using upstart because the template was so simple
[20:57] <blargg> rly, so you're saying to not make use of upstart? That seems like a waste if all you care about is it working on your own system.
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> n00blet: if they arerelevant, yes
[20:57] <n00blet> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645716
[20:57] <rly> blargg: I am talking about important systems.
[20:57] <n00blet> I followed guides here
[20:57] <koshie> km1, In help or ? you don't have «about» ?
[20:58] <rly> blargg: for hacks, it doesn't really matter, as long as it works.
[20:58] <n00blet> http://www.6by9.net/b/2011/04/25/hp-dm1z-laptop-running-ubuntu-1010
[20:58] <n00blet> and that one
[20:58] <n00blet> they told me to use the openSUSE patches
[20:58] <blargg> rly, you're right, I assumed that nobody was using Ubuntu for things more serious than home PCs, sorry :(
[20:59] <rly> blargg: are you serious?
[20:59] <km1> bah, will google it
[20:59] <koshie> km1, In help or «?» you don't have «about» ?
[20:59] <koshie> When you click on it you should have the software name, because I don't know what you talking about !
[21:00] <koshie> +are
[21:00] <n00blet> my main question though is the differences between Wubi installer and an Ubuntu Partition
[21:00] <koshie> n00blet, wuby = just for test
[21:00] <koshie> don't use it to work, because if Windows die, Ubuntu die.
[21:00] <eiriksvin> my whole network is Ubuntu, even remote access, its like having them all in the same office... nice
[21:00] <n00blet> oh ok
[21:00] <franco> joe coker
[21:00] <koshie> An Ubuntu partition is a «real» installation on your hard disk, not on the windows partition
[21:01] <bU1337Pr00f> Does anyone now of a good IRC services package already in the repos?
[21:01] <koshie> n00blet, but wubi is a very easy and secure way to test Ubuntu.
[21:01] <koshie> But on Windows, with the windows file system I think.
[21:01] <n00blet> So even if the Wifi card works in Windows it wont work in Ubuntu through Wubi
[21:01] <hypatia> i ran a wubi install for about 2 years
[21:01] <hypatia> through a couple of upgrades
[21:01] <koshie> bU1337Pr00f, a IRC service package ?
[21:01] <hypatia> the speed difference is quite negligible
[21:01] <koshie> hypatia, you're crazy dude :)
[21:01] <hypatia> koshie: not a dude :p
[21:01] <n00blet> Because that is my problem, Ubuntu doesnt even detect that my computer has a Wireless card @_@
[21:01] <eiriksvin> koshie, I would recommend just playing around on the live disk as a test
[21:01] <koshie> hypatia, I don't know how to say «dude» for a girl.
[21:02] <celthunder> n00blet: does it show up in lspci/ifconfig -a
[21:02] <celthunder> koshie: dudette
[21:02] <n00blet> no
[21:02] <koshie> Oh I know, but if I say it, I will be k/b
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> koshie: dudette
[21:02] <koshie> really ? x)
[21:02] <hypatia> koshie: dudette works :)
[21:02] <PalinBachman2012> anyone getting a white screen when you mazimixe a window in natty?
[21:02] <koshie> :o
[21:02] <koshie> English is funny :)
[21:02] <bU1337Pr00f> koshie, Yeah. I'm trying to set up a private IRC server for myself and a few people and I would like to have services, but I'm having some issues with getting the source for Epona configured
[21:02] <celthunder> koshie: we make up words...
[21:02] <n00blet> My ethernet works though
[21:02] <chickadee> Koobilitoo: that is correct.
[21:02] <hypatia> n00blet: using wubi won't make a non-working-in-ubuntu wifi card work, it's not like using a virtual machine
[21:02] <n00blet> OHHHHHH
[21:02] <n00blet> okay
[21:02] <koshie> bU1337Pr00f, Oh, you want to run a IRC server ?
[21:03] <n00blet> Thats what I was wondering
[21:03] <hypatia> bU1337Pr00f: the state of irc packaging is pretty dismal
[21:03] <koshie> n00blet, wubi use your hardware
[21:03] <brown_fern> ubuntuguy: Do you know for sure that it isn't already configured automatically by the OS, try turning on Bluetooth by clicking the icon on the menu bar, for instance. The default setting for BT is off and not broadcast, as far as I've experienced. Also, from the universal power button>>System Settings>>Bluetooth
[21:03] <bU1337Pr00f> koshie, I already have the server up and running, I just need services
[21:03] <koshie> Is LIKE Ubuntu partition but it's installed ON WINDOWS, so it depend of Windows
[21:03] <ubuntuguy> I did it on my own, thanks
[21:03] <koshie> If you erase Windows, Ubuntu are erased to.
[21:03] <albech> what are the alternatives to 1:1 nat in order to present a server on an external IP number?
[21:03] <hypatia> n00blet: wubi more or less uses the windows bootloader to bootstrap a virtual parition image stored on your windows partition
[21:03] <sin_tax> Can anyone tell me why Unity is giving me intermittent problems with the shortcut keys for the launcher? http://imgur.com/a/IpByB
[21:03] <n00blet> Oh okay I see now
[21:04] <km1> just in case you know, have a look at this http://www.ihaveapc.com/2011/05/how-to-use-system-testing-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[21:04] <koshie> bU1337Pr00f, sorry, I don't understand the question, I'm not english :à)
 i have a telnet based python chat if you would like it?
[21:04] <n00blet> because I didn't understand the point of Wubi if you could just have a partition, but I get it now, thanks :)
[21:04] <chickadee> celthunder : how do you use the udev command to see the partition label?
[21:04] <koshie> n00blet, ;)
[21:04] <brown_fern> ubuntuguy: Okay, I'm glad it worked out.
[21:04] <hypatia> n00blet: if you're just playing around with ubuntu it's totally fine
[21:04] <n00blet> I guess I'll just have to wait to see it ubuntu will be updated to support my laptop soon
[21:04] <sin_tax> Seems that often after rebooting, the numeric shortcut keys don't work until they decide to magically work... image shows the behavior
[21:04] <bU1337Pr00f> eiriksvin, Sory, I want to keep it to IRC so that my girlfriend can log in with Mibbit.
[21:04] <hypatia> n00blet: what wifi card is it?
[21:04] <n00blet> ralink 5390
[21:05] <hypatia> n00blet: doesn't work with ndis?
[21:05] <n00blet> people in the forums said it had something to do with the kernels
[21:05] <hypatia> yeah, it probably just isn't supproted yet n00blet
[21:05] <chickadee> koshie: are you calling me a n00blet? :p
 oh, kk :P' just thought id offer
[21:05] <jasonlfunk> Hi. I need to upgrade perl to 5.12... is there a repository anywhere?
[21:05] <koshie> chickadee, what ?
[21:06] <n00blet> how long does it take before certain things gain support like this
[21:06] <chickadee> oh wait, nm! lol
[21:06] <koshie> chickadee, ?
[21:06] <n00blet> because ID REALLY love to use ubuntu lol
[21:06] <chickadee> <--is braindead
[21:06] <n00blet> I cant stand using windows ;)
[21:06] <bU1337Pr00f> eiriksvin, thanks for the offer though, it's just a really really small system and it's only going to have one purpose
[21:06] <koshie> chickadee, np
[21:06] <tumbes2000> Are any of you having an issue in 11.04 where thunderbird or evolution end where the mouse cursor cannot click on the "buttons" like the buttons are misaligned?
[21:06] <hypatia> n00blet: you've got a bunch of options - use ubuntu in a VM, replace the wifi card, or use a USB wireless card
 yeah thats what I use it for myself
[21:07] <n00blet> I'm thinking of replacing the WiFi card, it's just that Ubuntu also has issues with my touchpad
[21:07] <hypatia> n00blet: :(
[21:07] <n00blet> it's a synaptics clickpad
[21:07] <JaimeDimon> hey guys, whats h appening
[21:07] <n00blet> and it wigs out :(
[21:07] <hypatia> n00blet: oh i have one of those too, what a pain
[21:07] <n00blet> yea >.> i cant even click and drag
[21:07] <n00blet> L(
[21:08] <hypatia> n00blet: try double-clicking really quickly and then dragging
[21:08] <robin0800> n00blet, have you seen the release notes re touchpads
[21:08] <n00blet> I might try following some of the guides again
[21:08] <hypatia> that's what works on mine
[21:09] <n00blet> nope
[21:09] <n00blet> I just started using tap to click instead
[21:09] <shinta> question, i just installed ubuntu 11.04, do i have to download the newest nvidia drivers for my video card or is it automatic?
[21:09] <anlek> guntbert: When I try to upgrade, it says: An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool
[21:10] <n00blet> but anyway I'm probably going to try patching again and following the threads, I'm new to termninal and I tried this like at 4 in the morning so lol yea
[21:10] <brown_fern> n00blet: It can take years, if ever. Long enough that you'd want to find another solution, but that's if your chip isn't supported. I have not personally checked to see that it isn't. I'd run a few searches for it if I were you on hardware compatibility lists.
[21:10] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, I'm trying to find a PS1 emulator... Anyone know what one is or where to find one? I'm guessing it might be on a backroads repo somewhere
[21:10] <robin0800> anlek, I believe it "k" comes before j
[21:11] <hypatia> n00blet: looks like there's a driver written for that ralink, so it should be a matter of time before someone packages it for 11.04
[21:11] <hypatia> n00blet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645716
[21:11] <anlek> robin0800: not sure what that means
[21:11] <brown_fern> hypatia: nice one on your part.
[21:11] <anlek> robin0800: Is there a way to specify what version i want to update?
[21:12] <guntbert> anlek: it is 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04....
[21:12] <hypatia> brown_fern: i am good with the googles :D
[21:12] <shinta> i just installed ubuntu 11.04, do i have to download the newest nvidia drivers for my video card or is it automatic?
[21:12] <celthunder> shinta: apt-get install nvidia-current
[21:12] <brown_fern> hypatia: :-D
[21:12] <alex_> hi, I was hoping someone could help me turn off the awesome new interface on my laptop so I can use this newer version
[21:12] <robin0800> anlek, look at ubuntu.org you can find details of how to upgrade there
[21:13] <celthunder> alex_: ?
[21:13] <szal> shinta: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search nvidia <- that should get you a list of what's available
[21:13] <anlek> robin0800: I followed this; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty
[21:13] <celthunder> alex_: that didn't make much sense (at least not to me)
[21:13] <n00blet> I'll play around with it again later, but thanks for the info :)
[21:13] <alex_> sorry
[21:13] <guntbert> anlek: so start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty
[21:13] <hypatia> good luck, n00blet - and come back if you get stuck!
[21:13] <szal> celthunder: how can you recommend nvidia-current w/o hesitating when you don't know what video card is at hand?
[21:13] <alex_> my laptop's too slow now that I installed the new version of ubuntu
[21:13] <n00blet> Ill probably be back again once Im messing around in terminal with it (because I'm pretty new to it and some of it just cunfuses me x)
[21:13] <guntbert> anlek: sorry, you did
[21:13] <n00blet> thanks, bye :)
[21:13] <shinta> celthunder, szal im new to linux, i put that in the terminal right?
[21:14] <szal> shinta: of cours
[21:14] <szal> e
[21:14] <celthunder> shinta: yes
[21:14] <nifon> ειμαι στο ελληνικο;;;
[21:14] <anlek> guntbert: so why is it skipping a version?
[21:14] <Pici> !gr | nifon
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> alex_: did you upgrade or clean install?
[21:14] <guntbert> anlek: good question :-)    did you prepare you system according to the page?
[21:15] <alex_> upgrade
[21:15] <celthunder> szal: nvidia-current includes 9/10 drivers for everything released in the last 3-4 years
[21:15] <shinta> celthunder this will probably sound terrible, how do i login root?
[21:15] <celthunder> szal: and what's not included should work fine without it
[21:15] <anlek> yes
[21:15] <szal> celthunder: w/ the stress on "in the last 3-4 years", so if someone needs a legacy option that won't work
[21:15] <brown_fern> alex_: What are the general specifications of your laptop? Is it due to age of hardware (RAM perhaps), or are you suggesting it's something more?
[21:16] <guntbert> anlek: did you consider backing up you user data and doing a fresh install?
[21:16] <anlek> guntbert: I also tried this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[21:16] <szal> shinta: you don't
[21:16] <celthunder> szal: then they don't need the nvidia drivers the open source ones work just fine for the older cards
[21:16] <szal> shinta: the "sudo" does the trick
[21:16] <guntbert> !sudo | shinta
[21:16] <anlek> guntbert: Considered but it's a lot of work :(
[21:16] <alex_> it's just too slow, video's too choppy. can't I turn down the effects or something?
[21:17] <szal> celthunder: for those that need the 96 that might be true, but for the FX series the 17x is still the better option
[21:17] <PoPpiLLs> quit
[21:17] <arooni> i hear scratchiness to my audio on ubuntu.  how can i fix?
[21:17] <guntbert> anlek: probably not more than 4 upgrades in a row
[21:17] <losty> alex_ have you considered maybe trying xubuntu? - how much ram do you have btw?
[21:17] <Polah> shinta: Appending sudo before a command, providing the account your on has sudo capability will let you function briefly similarly to root. It's quite insecure to use the actual root account.
[21:17] <myrmidette> does amd have in-house open-source drivers?
[21:17] <szal> celthunder: I know what I'm talking about, my other machine has an FX
[21:17] <guntbert> anlek: not more work
[21:17] <shinta> so it would be sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[21:17] <anlek> guntbert: I guess :(
[21:18] <alex_> 2.7
[21:18] <juank_prada> do you guys recommend using the proprietarry ATI video driver or the one that comes with ubuntu by default?
[21:18] <Polah> shinta: yes
[21:18] <brianmbi1> exit
[21:18] <szal> shinta: before this gets out of hand here, what card do you have?
[21:18] <robin0800> alex_, you can try classic if you log out first
[21:18] <celthunder> szal: kk i just have 9800's and newer i've also got a few other nvidia cards that are older that worked fine without any proprietary drivers...never tried an FX admittedly
[21:18] <shinta> nvidia galaxy 460 gtx oc
[21:19] <alex_> ok, how do I do that? when I'm in the login screen, what do I do?
[21:19] <szal> shinta: ok, then -current is the way to go
 does amd have in-house open-source drivers?
[21:20] <celthunder> myrmidette: for what?
[21:20] <myrmidette> nvm
[21:20] <myrmidette> celthunder, I meant ati
[21:20] <szal> celthunder: until pretty recently I still had a machine w/ a GF2
[21:20] <myrmidette> it's been a long day
[21:21] <shinta> how do u open private chat with someone
[21:21] <celthunder> shinta: /msg <nick> or /query is more correct but often linked in shitty clients to /msg
[21:21] <szal> shinta: depending on your IRC client there
[21:21] <rly> shinta: that costs 2 euro per minute.
[21:21] <szal> shinta: depending on your IRC client there's a number of ways to do that..  and remember to ask permission beforehand
[21:22] <shinta> it costs money? im in freenode
[21:22] <celthunder> myrmidette: ati doesn't provide open source drivers thare are some available but ati's own drivers are proprietary
[21:22] <celthunder> shinta: he means don't pm him unless you're paying him
[21:22] <shinta> oh
[21:23] <^cl0ud^> can anyone help me with ubuntu power management issue with amd apu?
[21:23] <alex_> robin0800: how do I do that from the login screen?
[21:23] <rly> shinta: actually I was making a joke.
[21:23] <shinta> polah can u pm me o i pm u? you were helping me yesterdan and want to see if i did it right
[21:23] <shinta> rly its ok, im just new to this so i had no idea =P
[21:24] <celthunder> rly: hey i'd make a ton of money if i charged everyone who pm'd me instead of responding in chan :)
[21:24] <arooni> i cant play audio with audacious; i get the error: ALSA error snd_pcm_open failed: No such file or directory.
[21:24] <celthunder> rly: with that said i like money but...i'm not that much a dick
[21:24] <rly> celthunder: you can configure your client in a certain way to do that, of course.
[21:24] <Polah> shinta: No, public chat only; helps other people as well.
[21:24] <blargg> Polah, and allows bad advice to be seen and corrected by others
[21:25] <alex_> speaking of advice. how do I switch to a classic view from my login screen?
[21:25] <guntbert> !language | celthunder
[21:25] <Guest99360> Has been anyone from here using ubuntu for waching porn? Maybe in the new unity interface?
[21:25] <hypatia> alex_: it's at the bottom
[21:25] <celthunder> Guest99360: out of 1000 people it's highly likely
[21:26] <syafiq> hai
[21:26] <guntbert> alex_: after you selected your user name for login and before you type the password
[21:26] <alex_> hypatia: where, there's the universal access preferences and the shutdown menu
[21:26] <LjL> Guest99360: please keep it family friendly in here
[21:26] <alex_> ooooooh
[21:26] <alex_> thank you!
[21:26] <Polah> blargg: Indeed.
[21:26] <Guest99360> uhm, k
[21:27] <shinta> i find the new interface confusing lol
[21:27] <Dephenom> right, so I have done a "useradd httpd" on a Ubuntu 10.04 server, then went to SSH in and I get "Could not chdir to home directory /home/httpd: No such file or directory", what have I done wrong?
[21:27] <szal> Guest99360: anyhoo, why should watching pr0n be any different to watching whatever else?
[21:28] <szal> from the technical pov, that is
[21:28] <IdleOne> szal: his true question is how to install flash
[21:28] <Polah> Dephenom, does that director exist? Sounds like it doesn't.
[21:28] <alex_> fantastic, look at that flawlessly streaming video. thanks guntbert and hypatia!
[21:29] <guntbert> alex_: :)
[21:29] <Dephenom> Polah, doesnt /home/[user] get created as part of the useradd process?
[21:29] <hypatia> alex_: you're most welcome!
[21:30] <guntbert> Dephenom: only if the defaults are set that way, see man useradd, but consider using adduser instead
[21:30] <Polah> Dephenom: Usually, but sometimes not. Make the directory again if it isn't there, check that the home directory is that as well.
[21:30] <abusyafiq> hai
[21:31]  * Dephenom gives up and goes back to CentOS, at least I know how that works
[21:31] <feyd> i cant delete files to the trash in xfce on non-OS drives
[21:31] <albech> for creating subnets on a /25 would you run [internet] --> [router] --> [firewall] --> [hosts] or switch the router and firewall around?
[21:31] <abusyafiq> hhhh
[21:31] <abusyafiq> hfgg
[21:31] <abusyafiq> hgjg
[21:31] <abusyafiq> hjk
[21:31] <guntbert> abusyafiq: stop
[21:31] <FloodBot1> abusyafiq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <vanguard> is there anything that I will miss if I ditch ubuntu for debian?
[21:31] <albech> vanguard, me?
[21:31] <Dephenom> vanguard, Unity :P
[21:32] <rly> vanguard: it would be pretty pointless.
[21:32] <vanguard> Dephenom: I am not using it now anyway. I guess I would go KDE then anyway
[21:32] <rly> vanguard: they are pretty much the same.
[21:32] <guntbert> !ot | vanguard
[21:32] <Polah> albech: If your firewall is separate from your router. But yes, [internet] <-> [Router][Firewall]/<->[Firewall] <-> [Computers & stuff]
[21:32] <shinta> polah ok so i was talking to you yesterday about setting up ubuntu and windows 7, i have my drive partitioned like such.....first ntfs system reserved (windows  7 made this) ntfs with windows 7, ntfs Storage space for sharing with linux and windows  and then a extended broke up into a 4gig linux swap and then a ext4 that i have linux on
[21:32] <vanguard> guntbert: should I ask in Debian or what are trying to suggest?
[21:32] <conncorde> is there someone who nows how to install KIES in linux
[21:32] <Dephenom> vanguard, me neither, I am still on 10.10 on my desktop, and considering switching to Mint
[21:32] <conncorde> ?
[21:33] <Polah> Shinta: Ah that's who you are. So what's the issue?
[21:33] <hmuller> To get the grub menu just press [ESC]???
[21:33] <guntbert> vanguard: as it is no ubuntu support question: not here
[21:33] <NFischer> HI all! i just bought 2x2 DDR2 RAM-Sticks... Ubuntu lists my Memora as to be 3.2GB is that normal?
[21:33] <shinta> polah just seeing if i did everything right
[21:33] <Polah> Shinta: Why do you have Linux on an extended? You can make both swap and the system partition for Ubuntu primaries.
[21:33] <hypatia> NFischer: install the PAE kernel from synaptic
[21:33] <Polah> Shinta: Yeah, sound right to me.
[21:33] <hypatia> NFischer: you need it to see more than 3.2GB ram in 32-bit ubuntu
[21:33] <bigwolf> I know there's a channel for it, but it appears to be dead. Does anyone use the deadbeef player? if so, is there a way to d/l some presets?
[21:33] <shinta> polah idk why its on an extended >.> lol
[21:34] <rly> NFischer: where does it say that?
[21:34] <Polah> Hypatia: His processor would need to be PAE-capable as well
[21:34] <NFischer> rly, System Monitor
[21:34] <hypatia> Polah: most are :)
[21:34] <hmuller> To get the grub menu during boot just press [ESC]???
[21:34] <guntbert> hmuller: <shift>
[21:35] <hmuller> guntbert: danke schoen
[21:35] <Polah> NFischer: 32-bit systems can only support up to ~3.2GB of RAM, including video memory I believe. You need 64-bit or a PAE-enabled processor and kernel (which is something like 48-bit) to utilise more RAM than that.
[21:35] <Polah> hmuller: Shift.
[21:35] <guntbert> hmuller: you're welcome :-)
[21:35] <tumbes2000> I am looking at purchasing a new video card and wanted to see if Nvidia was still a better choice than AMD in regards to running ubuntu.  I have an Nvidia card now, which is generally fine.
[21:35] <NFischer> ok thanks People.. are there any disadvantages to the PAE Kernels?!?
[21:35] <Polah> NFischer: Not that I know of.
[21:36] <rly> NFischer: a PAE-enabled kernel can address 2^36 bytes.
[21:36] <hypatia> NFischer: each process will only see 3gb ram. but that's a lot per process, and some apps use multiple processes :)
[21:36] <hypatia> tumbes2000: yes
[21:36] <^cl0ud^> can anyone help me with ubuntu power management issue with amd apu?
[21:36] <rly> NFischer: there are no disadvantages that I know of, I don't know why they don't give you such a kernel by default.
[21:36] <Polah> rly: Shouldn't that be 2^36 bytes?
[21:36] <rly> Polah: I said that.
[21:37] <NFischer> ok thank you guys, that helpes alot!
[21:37] <Polah> rly: bits, I mean.
[21:37] <rly> Polah: no.
[21:37] <shinta> polah heres a pic of how it is http://tinypic.com/r/w1z57s/7
[21:38] <rly> Polah: with one bit of information, you can address two bytes for example.
[21:39] <rly> Polah: or two <whatever the minimum machine size is>.
[21:39] <Polah> rly: A bit is the minimum size.
[21:39] <rly> Polah: no, it is not.
[21:39] <rly> Polah: read a book on system architecture.
[21:39] <blargg> Polah, memory is addressed in groups of 8 bits
[21:39] <Polah> shinta: Look fine. SDA1 seems to be a separate boot partition. You'd need to install GRUB there.
[21:40] <rly> Polah: you are in a dire need of clue.
[21:40] <dutchy_> what to do  by this message - he file '/home/conncorde/Bureaublad/Kies_2.0.0.11044_11_3.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[21:40] <Polah> Blargg: So a byte then, unless I'm wildly mistaken.
[21:40] <shinta> Polah how do i do that?
[21:40] <Polah> Rly: I don't really appreciate such a comment, you could simply correct me without an insult alongside it.
[21:41] <dracofusco> I've got a question for you all, I have an Ubuntu VM on my Mac, and I'm trying to use Pekwm window manager, but I don't know how to change the screen res from within Pekwm, as atm it's defaulting to 800x600 while normal old GNOME uses my whole resolution of 1920 x 1080
[21:41] <Polah> Shinta: After installing Ubuntu use grub-install to install GRUB onto SDA1. Ask in #grub, I don't recall the specific commands.
[21:41] <rly> Polah: I don't appreciate smartasses, which aren't.
[21:42] <rly> Polah: shall I place you on ignore?
[21:42] <Polah> rly: I'm not being a smartass at all. I said "A bit is the minimum size", because as far as I am aware, that is the minimum size. If it works with bytes then that's 8 bits. I turned out to be wrong
[21:42] <rly> Polah: that's better.
[21:43] <Polah> Rly: I never claimed I wasn't wrong before. Please stop being so hostile. I said something which I believed to be true, evidently I was mistaken. There's no need to insult me, you can simply correct me.
[21:43] <shinta> polah ok ill ask there, but why do i need to install GRUB there? what happens if i dont?
[21:43] <Polah> Shinta: That's the only partition with the boot flag. You could install it elsewhere and set the boot flag there instead.
[21:44] <b44> how to deinstall a ***.deb package ??
[21:44] <tarzq> any indo
[21:44] <b44> ?
[21:44] <robin0800> shinta, sudo install-grub /dev/sda1
[21:44] <Seveas> b44, dpkg -P name_of_package
[21:44] <jrib> !apt | b44
[21:44] <blargg> Polah, does the boot flag even matter on an MBR-partitioned disk?
[21:45] <rly> Polah: I disagree about your assertions. I won't discuss this. If you continue to discuss, I will put you on ignore.
[21:45] <quiescens> technically, the boot flag matters for the purposes of the traditional dos bootloader
[21:45] <Polah> Blargg: I don't really think so if you install it to the MBR, but I'm not sure on the specifics of installing GRUB to it's own partition.
[21:45] <Phong_> hi guys, is there away to increase the disk size for ubuntu after installing alongside with windows?
[21:46] <Phong_> wubi only allow me select 30GB max
[21:46] <gsr> Phong_: parted/gparted should do it
[21:46] <nincompooop> hey guys
[21:46] <Phong_> gsr, are you sure? i'm using wubi
[21:46] <nincompooop> where do I find what DNS servers my computer is using?
[21:46] <rly> guntbert, Polah: please stop whining.
[21:46] <b44> Seveas: thx
[21:46] <Phong_> gsr, keep in mind that i install along side with window
[21:46] <shinta> robin0800 says command install-grub not found
[21:46] <szal> Phong_: a Wubi install is not _alongside_ Windows, it's _inside_ Windows
[21:47] <Polah> Phong_: gsr: Wubi doesn't install it on a true partition, so that wouldn't work would it?
[21:47] <rly> Stop harassing me privately.
[21:47] <Phong_> gsr, read Polah
[21:47] <guntbert> rly: just for the record: I wasn't harassing you, only asking you to stay polite and friendly
[21:47] <Phong_> i'm running out of space..but my disk has alot
[21:47] <Polah> It's not harassing. I'm just saying your hostility was inappropriate.
[21:47] <gsr> Phong_, Polah: ah, sorry.
[21:47] <szal> shinta: it's "grub-install"
[21:48] <rly> I will just put you both on ignore.
[21:48] <Polah> Phong_: I would recommend installing Ubuntu on it's own partition rather than inside Windows with WUBI.
[21:48] <Polah> Rly: That is fine, if it'll stop you acting hostile in what is supposed to be a friendly help channel.
[21:48] <Phong_> Polah, i understand, but with what i am in my situation, so a NO solution right?
[21:48] <nincompooop> guys?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:48] <pim_> Hello, grub has installed on the wrong drive. How could I fix this?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: have some patience
[21:49] <robin0800> shinta, sorry its grub-install
[21:49] <nincompooop> thanks, ActionParsnip :)
[21:49] <szal> pim_: install it to the right drive
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371
[21:49] <gsr> Polah: agreed.  Phong_: unless you have to use wubi for some reason, I'd suggest partitioning and installing ubuntu seperately.  If you have to use Ubuntu while in Windows, better to use something like VirtualBox
[21:49] <iRawk> DO YOU BELIEVEEEE IN LIFE AFTER LOVEE
[21:49] <ikonia> iRawk: please stop that now
[21:49] <ikonia> !topic | iRawk
[21:49] <LjL> rly: i'd appreciate if you didn't threaten or announce ignores, if you're going to ignore someone, just do it :)
[21:49] <iRawk> ubottu: no.
[21:49] <shinta> warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition.  This is a BAD idea.. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[21:49] <rly> Polah: next time I will just leave you in your ignorance. (No need to respond, as I already put you on ignore.)
[21:50] <ikonia> rly: drop it now, they are trying to help, if you don't like there advice, politly decline it
[21:50] <nincompooop> ikonia: dude, you just get faster and faster...
[21:50] <Seveas> nincompooop, he's the flash
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> rly: instead of spamming the channel with idle threats, just do it
[21:50] <goldfishy> hi
[21:50] <nincompooop> Seveas: agreed.
[21:50] <rly> ikonia: I didn't ask for advice.
[21:50] <rly> ActionParsnip: it has been done a few minutes ago.
[21:51] <ejo> Hello... I would really like to make the path/prompt in my Terminal window show up in color, so I can more easily find my last command entered when I look back up amidst lines of output etc.  I don't see a way to separately color the path/prompt in the standard Ubuntu 11.04 terminal.  Any suggestions?
[21:51] <Phong_> gsr, i think there is solution
[21:51] <ejo> Otherwise I'm running white on black, but it would be great to have just the prompt in a color other than white or black.
[21:51] <Phong_> gsr, Polah
[21:51] <Phong_> oops
[21:52] <cdavis> How do you change the password after a whole disk encrytion installation?
[21:52] <Phong_> sgr, polah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371
[21:52] <shinta> szal, robin0800, polah i did it and go this warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition.  This is a BAD idea.. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[21:52] <blargg> ejo, look up PS1
[21:52] <gbase> hi http://pastebin.com/UdAGzwXe   i tried to install my wireless card but it doesn't seem to work...
[21:52] <gbase> pls if you can help me with it
[21:52] <ejo> blargg: thanks, I will
[21:53] <kubu2> ejo: edit your .bashrc and uncomment #force_color_prompt=yes
[21:53] <kubu2> then source .bashrc
[21:54] <robin0800> shinta, well you could install it to sda which is the default I am not sure why sda1 was chosen
[21:54] <Polah> shinta: You got that warning in terminal? Ask in #grub, I can't really help you with that unfortunately.
[21:54] <Polah> Phong_: Thanks for the link, good to know for the future. I'd still recommend you installing in a separate partition, especially if you're going to be installing large system as it seems you are.
[21:55] <nincompooop> GRUB configuration, one of the hardest things ever, IMHO
[21:55] <quiescens> presumably because people told them to install it to sda1
[21:55] <ejo> blargg and kubu2: that's great, thanks
[21:55] <blargg> nincompooop, seconded! dealt for hours with it a few days ago
[21:55] <eiriksvin> how do I get a splash screen to load before everything else does (thats the purpose of a slash screen) but as of right now the darn thing just keeps my screen black until it gets to the login screen
[21:55] <quiescens> unless you are intentionally chaining bootloaders, the easiest answer is usually to install to mbr
[21:55] <robin0800> quiescens, yes Iknow but why?
[21:56] <nincompooop> and I'll be right back... (why does network manager have to be such a pain in the butt?)
[21:56] <quiescens> robin0800: shrugs, you can try to find out who and ask them if you can be bothered
[21:56] <kubu2> ejo: np
[21:58] <Polah> eiriksvin: Plymouth is the package that provides the default Ubuntu splash screen
[21:58] <robin0800> quiescens, Polah I think
[21:58] <eiriksvin> yeah i know, and i can't seem to get it to act right
[21:59] <nincompooop> mah firefox ain't working correctly -_-
[21:59] <nincompooop> either that or the DNS cache is screwed up...
[21:59] <^cl0ud^> anyone can help me with power management issues with ubuntu and how to disable cpu from downclocking?
[21:59] <nincompooop> erm...
[22:00] <^cl0ud^> I want it to always run at max 1600 mhz
[22:00] <nincompooop> there is a desktop app thing
[22:00] <^cl0ud^> in command line?
[22:00] <nincompooop> right click on the panel and add a new app
[22:00] <nincompooop> naw, it's all based in the gnome-panel
[22:00] <Polah> robin0800: You think what?
[22:00] <nincompooop> right click panel >> add to panel >> CPU scaling frequency monitor
[22:01] <manlymatt83> I have a question about the new unity.  When I hit <windows key> + 8, it launches terminal (that's #8).  But if there's a terminal already open, it just opens that one.  How do I make it launch a new one no matter what?
[22:01] <nincompooop> or something similar...
[22:01] <Bainwa> hi, i have some trouble with aptitude, when i run "aptitude update", i have a 404 error, but i'm able to ping the ip without any problem... anyone have an idea ?
[22:01] <coz_> Bainwa,  I generally dont use aptitude   did you try sudo apt-get update
[22:01] <hidnshadows> I have a bit of a problem.... my screen keeps showing random pixels, it keels "snowing" if you will... there's a screencap that you can see it on  http://tinypic.com/r/165rt1/7   But then every once in a while, it'll play nice.., Is that just my screen/hardware, or is it software-related?
[22:02] <nincompooop> Bainwa: not found, eh... maybe the repo was moved or something...
[22:02] <nincompooop> looks like my internet's still screwed up.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: try setting the interface to DHCP (address only) then set the DNS servers to: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[22:02] <blargg> manlymatt83, can you specify a command to execute for one of the buttons?
[22:02] <Bainwa> nincompooop: hum it works yesterday on my laptop
[22:03] <Polah> ActionParsnip: What DNS server is 8.8.4.4?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Polah: google's public DNS service
[22:03] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: can do.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Polah: 8.8.4.4 is just the secondary
[22:03] <manlymatt83> blargg: maybe I can, but figured there'd be an easier way
[22:03] <LekeFly> Anyone having problem with ubuntu 11.04 hanging in GRUB menu?
[22:04] <e1_dev> hi ppl
[22:04] <hidnshadows> The random pixels even show up on the BIOS settings and login screen, not just GNOME
[22:04] <e1_dev> help please: is there a simple way ( wget/terminal ) to download website pages as .txt file and text format ( no html tags ) ?
[22:04] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: so, I edit /etc/resolv.conf to do that, right?
[22:04] <nincompooop> hidnshadows: sounds like a hardware problem.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: fornow, yes if its good then we can make the change permanent
[22:04] <blargg> manlymatt83, if so, you could have it run gnome-terminal. If it still goes to the already-running instance, you could try adding a parameter like gnome-terminal --title="Terminal".
[22:04] <nincompooop> hidnshadows: wanna try ##hardware?
[22:04] <hidnshadows> nincompooop, thanks, I'll try there
[22:05] <queso> Is Karmic Koala server no longer supported?  If it isn't, there isn't a note to that affect on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala
[22:05] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: hm, so do I have to restart the network in order to have the DNS servers apply?
[22:05] <nincompooop> or no...
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: no, they are used immediately
[22:05] <nincompooop> K... they're not working.
[22:05] <nincompooop> maybe it's a router problem...
[22:06] <szal> !eol | queso
[22:06] <nincompooop> either that or my ISP is pissed off with me....
[22:06] <spthysis> Hi
[22:06] <robin0800> Polah, you suggested sda1 rather than the default sda
[22:06] <spthysis> So I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on a new computer, and I opened up banshee to import my music.
[22:06] <spthysis> and it's unable to play my files
[22:06] <queso> szal: ty
[22:06] <Polah> ActionParsnip: I used 4.4.4.4 as a secondary. Has it changed or did I just read 8.8.4.4 wrong when I was setting up?
[22:06] <spthysis> which are mp3 and m4a.
[22:06] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: I'll go ahead and ping the DNS servers...
[22:06] <spthysis> it said it had downloadede the drivers necessary
[22:06] <spthysis> but, it didn't work
[22:06] <Polah> robin0800: For Shinta? That was because sda1 has a boot flag, so I suggested that he could install GRUB there
[22:07] <rationalOgre> Polah: You read 8.8.4.4 wrong
[22:07] <Paingiver> I want to backup the content of my SW Raid 5 to several external HDs as an emergency backup. Later on I also want to be able to have incremental backups in regular intervals. Does anyone know a good way how to accomplish this?
[22:07] <rationalOgre> Polah: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[22:07] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: yup, looks like it's a port forwarding problem or the ISP hates me...
[22:07] <nincompooop> I can ping 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[22:07] <Polah> rationalOgre: I'd better go change my secondary DNS then.
[22:07] <coz_> hidnshadows,  are you sure you dont have compiz snow plugin enabled?
[22:08] <hidnshadows> coz_, it's a new problem, and I don't think I've changed anything... How would I check? And I'm sure it's hardware, but it's worth a shot
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: how is port forwarding a factor?
[22:08] <Polah> hidn_shadows, looks like graphics corruption. Could be hardware failure, or it could just be your drivers.
[22:09] <shinta> polah, robin0800 ok im back, i asked for help over there but they seem pretty dead lol havent said a thing in there other than me
[22:09] <coz_> hidnshadows,  open ccsm,, see if the Elements plugin and the snow pllugin are enabled
[22:09] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: dunno, I just thought I might have blocked that port for no apparent reason...
[22:09] <coz_> hidnshadows,  also in terminal   lspci | grep -i vga
[22:09] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: does it do this in other operating systems?
[22:09] <penster> "Autostart disabled, no VPN will be started." can anyone help with this
[22:09] <nincompooop> and I have not...
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: port forwarding only concerns incoming traffic
[22:09] <Polah> coz_: He has a lot of white-ish lines on the screen as well from the looks of it, not just pixels/dots here and there.
[22:09] <hidnshadows> And now for an IRC question, if I hae to identify with nickserve to join a channel, how do I do so?
[22:09] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: ahhh... K
[22:09] <coz_> Polah,  I see that,,
[22:10] <blargg> Polah, if he brings up the monitor's own OSD, do the lines appear over it or under it?
[22:10] <coz_> hidnshadows,  this is a driver issue ,, which card is on the system
[22:10] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: so, I guess I should restart my modem and see what happens, right?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: if you run:   route    do you have the route setup? Can you ping your router's internal IP?
[22:10] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: You are going to need to create an account. /msg NickServ help
[22:10] <eden21_> How do I make matrices with the [ ] rather than the | | signs?  The commands for matrices with | | signs is: abs matrix { {2} # 3 ## -1 # -2 }
[22:10] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: I can.
[22:10] <nincompooop> ActionParsnip: route?
[22:10] <hidnshadows> coz_ I'm not sure, sticker says ATI Mobility radeon 9000, is that what you're looking for?
[22:10] <Polah> coz_, hidnshadows: Could also be a physical hardware issue, i.e. the GPU is failing
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> nincompooop: yes, its a terminal command
[22:10] <shinta> polah, robin0800 isnt the GRUB what allows me to select my operating system in the beginning be it windows 7 or linux?
[22:11] <anastasis> How can I get my windows to stop maximizing just because I drag them to the top of the screen in ubuntu 11
[22:11] <nincompooop> he left?
[22:11] <nincompooop> how did he leave...
[22:11] <Polah> Shinta: Yes. GRUB is a bootloader
[22:11] <coz_> hidnshadows,  yeah that is what I was looking for,,
[22:11] <eden21_> Can anyone help me?
[22:11] <coz_> hidnshadows,  unfortunately I know far too little about ati  solutions
[22:11] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: then you will need to set up SASL on your IRC client to identify you.
[22:11] <shinta> polah well when i got done installing linux i rebooted and i had to choose linux or windows, so shouldnt it be alright as is?
[22:11] <coz_> need to break ,, be back later
[22:11] <rationalOgre> eden21_: just ask, if someone can, they will.
[22:12] <anastasis> How can I get my windows to stop maximizing just because I drag them to the top of the screen in ubuntu 11
[22:12] <hidnshadows> coz_ it's a ten-year-old unit, so it's more than likely just old hardware failing.. this model is notorious for failing like this
[22:12] <Polah> Shinta: If it's already giving you a menu to select either one, then it's working and it'd be easiest to leave it as it is.
[22:12] <eden21_> How do I make matrices with the [ ] rather than the | | signs in Libreoffice 3.3.1?  The commands for matrices in Libreoffice math with | | signs is: abs matrix { {2} # 3 ## -1 # -2 }. How do I change it to [ ] ?
[22:13] <anastasis> How can I get my windows to stop maximizing just because I drag them to the top of the screen in ubuntu 11
[22:13] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: in a terminal run "sudo lshw -C video | grep product"
[22:13] <Polah> !repeat | anastasis
[22:13] <hidnshadows> Alright, I'm just gonna go assume it's a hardware failure, adjusting the screen seems to be changing things.. Off to eBay!
[22:13] <shinta> polah ok then ill just do nothing then =P   well actually i better go try and boot into windows, i havent actually done that since i installed linux, i just saw the option is all
[22:14] <shinta> polah so ill be back in a few minutes if it doesnt work! if it does, i might not be back bc ill be playing a game ^__^
[22:14] <djhausmeister> hrj
[22:14] <hidnshadows> Mobility radeon, rationalOgre
[22:14] <Polah> shinta: Have fun.
[22:14] <anastasis> How can I get my windows to stop maximizing just because I drag them to the top of the screen in ubuntu 11
[22:14] <shinta> THANK YOU EVERYONE THATS BEEN HELPING ME!
[22:14] <Franzy> hey can anybody help me? im trying to run the ADB android SDK and im newb at linux
[22:14] <robin0800> Polah, linux ignores and dosen't use boot flags windows only
[22:15] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: does the same thing happen in other operating systems? (Windows, etc?)
[22:15] <Polah> robin0800: Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the pointer.
[22:15] <hidnshadows> I don't know, I oinly have linux on here, and then I use VBOX
[22:15] <hidnshadows> BRB
[22:15] <brown_fern> spthysis: This is an old page though it might be helpful. https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/musicvideophotos/C/codecs.html
[22:15] <dracofusco> using pekwm on Ubuntu, any apps for changing the screen resolution that you all know of?
[22:15] <anastasis> How can I get my windows to stop maximizing just because I drag them to the top of the screen in ubuntu 11
[22:15] <yessam430> whats up everyone just installed evervolv on my htc evo 4g works amazing and I love it. The only problem is google apps. they wont let me connect my gmail account any suggestions? Thanks.
[22:16] <sunnyd1> hi guys, total noob, just learning UBUNTU.... WOOT
[22:16] <edbian> sunnyd1: You have a question?
[22:16] <anastasis> How can I get my windows to stop maximizing just because I drag them to the top of the screen in ubuntu 11
[22:17] <sunnyd1> nope just lurkin atm
[22:17] <sunnyd1> thanks though
[22:17] <SimonL> that's better
[22:17] <SimonL> thanks ActionParsnip... even though he left for no apparent reason as we all do from time to time...
[22:18] <rationalOgre> dracofusco: xrandr?
[22:18] <dracofusco> yessam430 could you be more specific as to the issue?
[22:18] <anastasis> How can I get my windows to stop maximizing just because I drag them to the top of the screen in ubuntu 11
[22:18] <Franzy> hey can anybody help me? im trying to run the ADB android SDK and im newb at linux ? pls
[22:19] <brown_fern> sunnyd1: Have fun here and if you want to chat with Ubuntu users you might also consider #ubuntu-offtopic , too. :)
[22:19] <Polah> Anastasis: Please stop repeating your questions every couple of minutes. If someone could help you they would. As it is now nobody can and you're just spamming a little bit.
[22:19] <anastasis> . i cnant beliieve no one knows this where are the pros
[22:19] <majestik> samba n'est pas installé par défaut avec ubuntu?
[22:19] <sunnyd1> cool thanks
[22:19] <erix> Hi all, I got error message when I run the following command; /etc/init.d/fail2ban reload
[22:19] <erix> It says "failed" What is the wrong with that?
[22:20] <dracofusco> majestik could you use English please?
[22:20] <rationalOgre> dracofusco: and if you want it to persist put the command you end up using in ~/.xprofile
[22:20] <adrian15> !fr | majestik
[22:20] <Pici> !fr | majestik
[22:20] <hidnshadows> alright, back... Unless anyone thinks that it could be a random driver corruption, and thinks that they can save my laptop, I'm gonna see about procuring another one... Thanks!
[22:20] <majestik> dracofusco, sorry mistakes
[22:20] <dracofusco> rationalOgre, thanks for the tip! Will try later, I'm on GNOME atm
[22:21] <majestik> Samba isnt installed with ubuntu ?
[22:21] <almoxarife> majestik: no
[22:21] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: Without testing other operating systems there's really no way to tell. You could make a boot cd of SUSE or some other linux livecd and try that
[22:21] <rationalOgre> See if it does it in one of those.
[22:22] <majestik> almoxarife, ok thx, i've some problems with my desktop windows pc, and i don't know why but yesterday it's works fine
[22:22] <almoxarife> majestik: but if you 'share' a folder for network access , then it will load all that good stuff
[22:22] <robin0800> anastasis, it must be a compiz setting if you find it please post back as I would like to know too
[22:22] <dracofusco> How do you specifically reply to someone in irssi irc? I'm still a n00b with irssi
[22:22] <hidnshadows> rationalOgre, it's even on the BIOS...
[22:22] <anastasis> ok
[22:23] <majestik> almoxarife, really, today i can't access to my shared folder
[22:23] <blargg> anastasis, google search found this as first hit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10832264&postcount=14
[22:23] <robin0800> majestik, the client is the server isn't
[22:23] <almoxarife> majestik: shared on which machine? the ubuntu or the windows?
[22:23] <majestik> almoxarife, the windows
[22:24] <codazoda> When I suspend my system "locks up" sometimes.  Black screen, but it doesn't actually suspend.  I have to hold the power to turn it off and back on.  I suspect some program won't suspend.  Any suggestions on how to figure out what it is?
[22:24] <almoxarife> majestik: I am assuming the win machine is up?
[22:24] <majestik> almoxarife, of course...
[22:24] <blargg> hidnshadows, that's pretty telling if even the BIOS shows graphical issues
[22:24] <almoxarife> majestik: and you can ping it?
[22:25] <flowbee> i have 10.04; my terminals are transparent; but instead of showing window behind the terminal (what i want); it shows desktop wallpaper. anyway to change this to show window from behind?
[22:25] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: then it's def hardware
[22:25] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: either video chip or monitor
[22:25] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: my bet would be video chip
[22:25] <Polah> hidnshadows: Definitely hardware issue. You could try removing your graphics card (if it's discrete) and replacing it, making sure it's seated correctly.
[22:25] <anastasis> thanks
[22:26] <hidnshadows> Polah, alack, it's hardsoldered
[22:26] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: you could test it for sure by plugging in an external monitor if your laptop is capable of that.
[22:26] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: if it does it on the external monitor, then it's graphics card, if it doesn't, its monitor.
[22:26] <Polah> hidnshadows: Ah yes, you're on a laptop then. Try rationalOgre's idea of a different monitor as it could be that. If not then you've little other option to return the laptop if it's still under warranty, or  you might be able to send it in for repair.
[22:26] <majestik> almoxarife, ping works fine
[22:27] <hidnshadows> rationalOgre, it's the graphics card, just checked it... ;__; And this unit's 10 years old, good luck for warranty
[22:27] <brianmbi1> anybody like natty?
[22:27] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: Yeah, no warranty there. Sorry man. New mobo or new laptop.
[22:27] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: I suggest new laptop.
[22:27] <almoxarife> majestik: are you saying that yesterday without any changes to either system you could see the folder on win, but you can't today?
[22:27] <Franzy> okay guess nobody here can help me
[22:27] <Polah> hidnshadows: Unlikely you could even get it repaired now then. New laptops sounds the best way. You might be able to find the same motherboard as is in the laptop somewhere and replace it yourself
[22:27] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: 10 years is a good long life for a laptop
[22:28] <Polah> Franzy : What's your issue?
[22:28] <majestik> almoxarife, yes, exactly
[22:28] <GrouchySmurf> I hate hating
[22:28] <Franzy> hey can anybody help me? im trying to run the ADB android SDK and im newb at linux
[22:28] <Franzy> ^polah
[22:28] <Polah> Franzy: Best to ask in an Android help channel then.
[22:28] <dijonyummy123> is there a decent linux xml viewer? i try to do firefox file.xml from shell but it comes out garbage
[22:28] <almoxarife> majestik: odd thing
[22:28] <Franzy> what is the "#" to join that?
[22:28] <fiftyeight> Hi, I'm trying to re-install ubuntu from the CD, how do I make it format the HDD from installing because I think the problem might also me in the HDD
[22:28] <hidnshadows> rationalOgre, and the WiFi antenna is AMAZING... they just don't make em like they used to
[22:29] <sunnyd1> I installed the package ubuntu-restricted-extras and java --version shows it installed but in firefox i get a white box for minecraft
[22:29] <sunnyd1> any ideas please?
[22:29] <rationalOgre> dijonyummy: I like VIM for xml viewing but I have my gVim tricked out to be good at it.
[22:29] <Franzy> #join android-support
[22:29] <dijonyummy123> i dont think vim will display it with indents
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[22:30] <DarkM> Hi guys
[22:30] <majestik> almoxarife, yes
[22:30] <almoxarife> majestik: could you be confused? you were on the win machine and could see the ubuntu side?
[22:30] <DarkM> Does anyone have a nice little script that could be run as a cron, to send an email with some infos like free hard drive spaces, etc etc
[22:30] <sunnyd1> 	Ubuntu 11.04
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ferramroberto/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[22:30] <majestik> almoxarife, i'v an error text when i'm trying to click on my workgroup, but i can't show you, it's in french lol
[22:30] <Logan_> Franzy: #android-dev
[22:31] <rationalOgre> dijonyummy: Sure it will. Mine does.
[22:31] <almoxarife> majestik: does it say something about 'net-sharing'
[22:31] <Franzy> ty logan
[22:31] <Logan_> np
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: close all browsers then rerun to load the plugin
[22:32] <rationalOgre> dijonyummy: just make sure your ~/.vimrc has set autoindent and set smartindent in it
[22:32] <sunnyd1> ok
[22:32] <majestik> almoxarife, i don't understand
[22:32] <Polah> dijonyummy, firefox <file>.xml loads up the XML text in firefox just fine. Perhaps the file you have it corrupt?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: you can use http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp to test
[22:33] <Polah> dijonyummy123, firefox <file>.xml loads up the XML text in firefox just fine. Perhaps the file you have it corrupt? You should be able to open it in any text editor you like, XML is just plaintext inside.
[22:33] <rationalOgre> hidnshadows: sorry it died on you, sir. Not much to do other than tons of research for a new laptop. :D
[22:33] <brown_fern> flowbee: Someone describing their problem the same way you did yours, found a solution in this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1768258&highlight=terminal+transparent+desktop
[22:33] <almoxarife> majestik: lets assume 'samba' is broke, try re-install?
[22:34] <Franzy> how do i register with IRC
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !register
[22:35] <Polah> Franzy: /msg nickserv register will give you instructions
[22:35] <Wendy-Darling> How can I do LUKS whole disk encryption with Lubuntu? That's what's keeping me from installing it.
[22:36] <dijonyummy123> i see is there a way to have it colored in vi(m)
[22:36] <sunnyd1> http://pastebin.com/3MUdG57T
[22:36] <sunnyd1> i get that in chromium
[22:37] <sunnyd1> it crashes in both firefox and chromium
[22:37] <Polah> sunny1: Add the Canonical partners repository and try using Sun Java instead of OpenJDK, which I think is what comes with Restricted Extras
[22:37] <sunnyd1> how please?
[22:37] <dijonyummy123> yeah i guess 1 of the files isnt proper or perfectly valid xml. a different file displays fine in firefox
[22:38] <sunnyd1> how do i remove the old java and install the new one?
[22:38] <b0n1> hey, are there already module patches of vmware server 2 to install it on ubuntu 11. 04 ?
[22:38] <abq-nm> anyone use ubuntu 9.10 on a toughbook?
[22:38] <rationalOgre> dijonyummy123: ~/.vimrc needs to have syntax on, filetype on, filetype plugin on, and filetype indent on
[22:38] <rationalOgre> to get proper syntax highlighting.
[22:39] <sunnyd1>  sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:39] <sunnyd1> i did that
[22:39] <almoxarife> sunnyd1: install sun-java-jre, that should wipe the old and install the official bad one
[22:39] <b0n1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server this tutorial doesnt help, it just doesnt work
[22:39] <sunnyd1> how please?
[22:39] <almoxarife> sunnyd1: install sun-java-jre, that should wipe the old and install the official bad one
[22:39] <bastidrazor> !partner
[22:39] <Polah> sunnyd1: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add or uncomment the line "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner" to enable the partners repo. Then do, sudo apt-get update then,  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre, then do sudo update-alternatives --config java and select Sun Java instead of OpenJDK
[22:39] <sunnyd1> Unable to locate package sun-java-jre
[22:39] <abq-nm> how do i install dillo on karmic
[22:40] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is tor stil in the repo in 11.04?
[22:40] <bencc> do I need to reboot after changing /etc/security/limits.confg and /etc/pam.d/su ?
[22:40] <U-b-u-n-t-u> sill*
[22:40] <Polah> Sunnyd1: Someone just told you a command to set up the Canonical partners repo. You need to add the repository and update apt-get before you'll be able to find the package
[22:40] <abq-nm> does anyone know how to install dillo on karmic??
[22:40] <kurisu> hi, I'm trying to get a script to libnotify me and have been told to install Net::DBus searched but I'm not sure what this means, searched the repositories but aam confused
[22:41] <Wendy-Darling> How can I do LUKS whole disk encryption with Lubuntu? Any help would be appreciated.
[22:41] <kurisu> in irssi
[22:41] <strata_> kurisu, type cpan
[22:41] <almoxarife> sunnyd1: did you add the PPA ppa:ferramroberto/java ??
[22:41] <Polah> abq-nm: sudo apt-get install tor gives me a handful of packages to download, so I assume so.
[22:41] <Polah> almoxarife: He doesn't need a PPA to install Sun Java.
[22:41] <strata_> kurisu, after it asks you a bunch of stuff, type install Net::DBus
[22:41] <adrian15> kurisu: It's probably a perl package. Seems to be a CPAN module.
[22:42] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I typed tor in the synaptic package manager and didnt see it
[22:42] <abq-nm> Polah: I tried almost everything...read the how to's...nothing, that's why i'm here.
[22:42] <almoxarife> Polah: I don't know about that, sun java does not appear on my repositories anymore without the ppa
[22:42] <kurisu> strata: ahh awesome... thanks
[22:42] <rationalOgre> Wendy-Darling: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1514232
[22:42] <Wendy-Darling> Thanks
[22:42] <Polah> almoxarife: Sun Java 6 is in the Canonical partner's repository.
[22:42] <strata_> U-b-u-n-t-u: go to tor website, they have the steps to install the repo there
[22:43] <bastidrazor> !info tor | U-b-u-n-t-u
[22:43] <Polah> abq-nm: Gone through the official Linux tutorial on the Tor website?
[22:43] <DriesVD> when does it stop making you look like a retard?
[22:43] <U-b-u-n-t-u> strata_,  thanks
[22:43] <LasBuntu> ok, clean ubuntu 11.04 install, double checked that LAMPs is installed, yet I cannot connect to phpmyadmin, suggestions? thanks
[22:43] <strata_> U-b-u-n-t-u: do not use the tor packages in the debian/ubuntu repositories
[22:43] <strata_> U-b-u-n-t-u: they are out of date
[22:43] <abq-nm> Polah: which version of dillo is it for?
[22:43] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ah ok
[22:43] <almoxarife> sunnyd1: install sun-java6-jre, that should wipe the old and install the official bad one , try that
[22:43] <ikonia> DriesVD: ?
[22:43] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ty you again
[22:43] <LasBuntu> 11.04 x64 server install that is
[22:43] <Polah> abq-nm: Dillo?
[22:44] <DriesVD> aye?
[22:44] <ikonia> DriesVD: what are you talking about ? and please don't suggest people look like "retards" ?
[22:44] <sunnyd1> ok i added  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner    to sources.list
[22:44] <DriesVD> he mentioned he didn't want to grow his hair out because ...
[22:44] <Polah> almoxarife, sunnd1: After installing sun-java6-jre from either that PPA above or the partners repository, you need to set Sun Java as the default. "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and then selecting the number referring to Sun Java should do it
[22:44] <duli> is there a console graphical tool to manage users/groups?
[22:44] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: Apache running?
[22:44] <abq-nm> Polah: a low end web browser, i heard of it while test driving DSL (damn small linux).
[22:44] <sunnyd1> sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre     Unable to locate package sun-java-jre
[22:45] <LasBuntu> ratifers, yes, I get a response from Apache
[22:45] <Polah> sunnyd1: You need to do apt-get update first
[22:45] <nawk> I broke my WM simply by checkboxing desktop cube and ignoring the conflicts between compiz and the ubuntu unity plugin in CompizConfig Settings Manager
[22:45] <LasBuntu> but localhost/phpmyadmin gets nothing
[22:45] <almoxarife> sunnyd1: install sun-java6-jre, that should wipe the old and install the official bad one , try that
[22:45] <almoxarife> sun-java6-jre sunnyd1
[22:45] <nawk> I tried doing "compiz --replace"  and "compiz --replace ccp"
[22:45] <sunnyd1> sun-java6-jre is already the newest version
[22:46] <DriesVD> it changed color?
[22:46] <adrian15> duli: I'm not sure. Maybe mightnight commander (mc).
[22:46] <Polah> abq-nm: It's just a generic linux/bsd/unix guide: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[22:46] <strata_> duli aoeuaoeuaoeuaoeuaoeuaoeuaoeuaoeuaoeuaoeuaoeusonatehusnaotehusantoheusnatoehuasnotehuasonteuhasoetnuhaoesnuthaoseunthaoeusnthaoeusnthaeousnthaoeusnthaoeunsthaoeusnthaoeusnthaoesunthaoesunth~.
[22:46] <Polah> sunnyd1: Update alternatives to set sun java as default then
[22:46] <sunnyd1> how please
[22:46] <nawk> but still some UI components, such as frames, are missing
[22:46] <strata_> lol
[22:46] <strata_> connection drop
[22:46] <Polah> sunnyd1: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[22:46] <strata_> duli, i meant to say 'yes'
[22:46] <Polah> sunnyd1: Then select the number that is for Sun Java
[22:46] <nawk>  No frames, windows are static (non-relocatable)
[22:46] <duli> adrian15: hum, I thought that was just for files, I´ll look into it
[22:47] <sunnyd1>  Selection    Path                                      Priority   Status
[22:47] <sunnyd1> ------------------------------------------------------------
[22:47] <sunnyd1> * 0            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java   1061      auto mode
[22:47] <sunnyd1>   1            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java   1061      manual mode
[22:47] <sunnyd1>   2            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java       63        manual mode
[22:47] <FloodBot1> sunnyd1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <adrian15> duli: That's why I am not quite sure :) .
[22:47] <nawk> OTOH, "metacity --replace" brings back those UI components
[22:47] <duli> strata_: if you can´t help, you have a good opportunity to be quiet.
[22:47] <nawk> but of course, the unity stuff are gone as a result
[22:47] <duli> adrian15: ok, tks
[22:47] <Polah> sunnyd1: So number 2 then
[22:47] <abq-nm> Polah: ok laters...
[22:48] <sunnyd1> done
[22:48] <sunnyd1> what now :-)
[22:48] <kurisu> can someone shout me please to test a script?
[22:49] <Smashcat> Hello - I've got a desktop machine with a PCI wireless card that's no longer supported by Linux apparently - has anyone tried the plug-socket adapters with Ubuntu 11? Just want to make sure they work ok before getting a set
[22:49] <Polah> sunnyd1: Go test it.
[22:49] <sunnyd1> roger that captain Polah !
[22:49] <Polah> sunnyd1: You were trying to play Minecraft, right? If it fails in-browser just try the downloadable version
[22:49] <sunnyd1> k
[22:50] <sunnyd1> still fails
[22:50] <vlt_> Hello. I want to control my Ubuntu desktop (OOo presentation) from a Nokia phone (via wifi). Any idea what app I need to install on the phone (and on Ubuntu)?
[22:50] <Polah> sunnyd1: Try downloading it
[22:50] <adminewb> I take it building kernel modules for debian & ubuntu is a very similar process & context. Someone with experience that way?
[22:50] <Polah> vlt_: SSH server, VNC or teamviewer.
[22:50] <sunnyd1> http://pastebin.com/f1g2e577
[22:50] <Polah> adminewb: Ubuntu is based off of debian.
[22:50] <sunnyd1> downloading
[22:51] <adminewb> Polah indeed, and afaict they haven't diverged much
[22:51] <res22_> I'm trying to move my /home directory to a new partition, and reinstall ubuntu using that as home. Execpt I've just realised that my current /home is encrypted. Does anyone know if this would work?
[22:51] <GrouchySmurf> shoo pad meal lap poo yeah!!
[22:51] <strata_> res22_ if it is ecryptfs you should be ok
[22:52] <pentarex> hey guys I'm having some issue with HP G62 with two videocards, INTEL and ATI RADEON 5470, I've installed kubuntu 11.04 and now I cant log in - I see the log in sign, then the screen goes black(blank) and the fan goes off
[22:52] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: is php up and running properly?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: if you move the pwd to the folder containing the jar file, does it work?
[22:52] <sunnyd1> crashes with the download version too
[22:52] <adminewb> Still hoping someone here understands the building of .ko files, and the infrastructure required.
[22:52] <sunnyd1> pwd ?
[22:52] <ikonia> adminewb: in what respect
[22:53] <vlt_> Polah: SSH server is running. I found an ssh client for the phone. Any idea how to control an OOo presentation (just forward/backward) from an ssh shell?
[22:53] <LasBuntu> rationalOgre, I think so, not sure how to test that
[22:53] <sunnyd1> i ran   java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFram
[22:53] <res22_> strata_: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: change the directory to where the file is stored
[22:53] <strata_> res22_: double check some groups to see if anyone else has done it before you jump into anything though :)
[22:53] <sunnyd1> i did !
[22:54] <res22_> screw it, I'll backup my stuff to a portable hdd first. Wireless doesn't work with 11.04 or 10.10 so I'm reinstalling 10.04
[22:54] <sunnyd1> i'm in the dir with the minecraft.jar file
[22:54] <Polah> vlt_: I recall someone mentioning using -X flag for a graphical view, as opposed to a shell.
[22:54] <adminewb> ikonia, On ubuntu the ndiswrapper.ko module, e.g., comes in binary form with a given linux-image-xxx package. Not so on debian, where apparently you have to build them.
[22:54] <sunnyd1> java -version
[22:54] <sunnyd1> java version "1.6.0_24"
[22:54] <edbian> res22_: Would you like to give wireless one more shot with me?
[22:54] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: cd to your root folder of your website and do echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > test.php
[22:54] <Polah> sunnyd1: Mark is as executable (chmod +x minecraft.jar) and then do    java -jar minecraft.jat
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: ok cool
[22:54] <Polah> .jar*
[22:54] <ikonia> adminewb: ok, what's the actual question ?
[22:54] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: Then navigate to localhost/test.php
[22:55] <rationalOgre> if a whole bunch of stuff comes up, php is set up properly
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: do you have 3d accelleration enabled?
[22:55] <adminewb> ikonia, this may be too debian specific, but: http://paste.debian.net/119252/
[22:55] <ikonia> adminewb: try asking in #debian then
[22:55] <adminewb> ikonia tried there
[22:55] <sunnyd1> no, this pc is  turd master 1000
[22:55] <vlt_> Polah: I doubt I can use the -X (or -Y) flag on a nokia phone, can I?
[22:56] <res22_> edbian: sure that'd be great, here's a thread I started on ubuntuforums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1772980
[22:56] <ikonia> adminewb: you've not asked today - try asking again
[22:56] <sunnyd1> where do i enable 3d ?
[22:56] <Polah> vlt_: Provided you can set command line options when connecting. The client you're using might have an option somewhere to enable graphical connections.
[22:56] <ikonia> adminewb: if debian doesn't have an answer, we don't pickup the slack in this channel
[22:56] <adminewb> did just 5 min ago
[22:56] <ikonia> adminewb: you don't show in my last log, so maybe it didn't come through
[22:56] <edbian> res22_: What card do you have?  (chipset?)
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: minecraft is a 3D game.You need 3D accelleration for it to run
[22:57] <adminewb> ikonia, my channel send ability there got blocked somehow I think
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: what video chip do you use?
[22:57] <ikonia> adminewb: you need to sort that out with the #debian guys then
[22:57] <LasBuntu> rationalOgre, yeah, that seems to be working
[22:57] <sunnyd1> nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev
[22:57] <oliver3> Anybody manage to get Adobe AIR working on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[22:57] <adminewb> ikonia if I'm blocked, afaik I'm sol
[22:57] <res22_> edbian: the wireless card is intel 5100 AGN
[22:57] <nawk> I broke my WM simply by checkboxing desktop cube and ignoring the conflicts between compiz and the ubuntu unity plugin in CompizConfig Settings Manager
[22:57] <nawk> I tried doing "compiz --replace"  and "compiz --replace ccp"
[22:57] <ikonia> adminewb: talk to the channel operators in pm
[22:58] <nawk> The frames are still missing
[22:58] <edbian> res22_: Can you pastebin sudo lspci -k  ?
[22:58] <bU1337Pr00f> Okay I need help setting up an IRC server. I installed IRCd-Hybrid, but when I run top, it doesn't show on the list. I try to start it like the man page says to with ircd and it says that the command isn't in the system.
[22:58] <vlt_> Polah: I'm afraid that won't work because I need the X output on the remote machine, not the phone. Hmmm ...
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: what is the output of:  lspsci | grep -i vga
[22:58] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: Ok, so while still in the root directory of the website, do you see a phpmyadmin/ directory?
[22:58] <nawk> OTOH, "metacity --replace" brings back those UI components
[22:58] <LasBuntu> rationalOgre, negative ghost rider...
[22:58] <sunnyd1> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2)
[22:58] <nawk> but of course, the unity stuff are gone as a result
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> nawk: type this in a terminal : gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace <enter>
[22:58] <sunnyd1> where do i set 3D ?
[22:58] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: Then it sounds like you need to install phpmyadmin
[22:58] <zachlr> Is there an advantage to using the preinstalled Firefox over installing it separately?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: ok, i use the same chip, what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[22:59] <Polah> zachlr: It saves you time in reinstalling it.
[22:59] <ikonia> zachlr: yes, it's fully intergrated into the desktop and supported
[22:59] <oliver3> nevermind it randomly decided to work like magic
[22:59] <ikonia> zachlr: ubuntu-desktop package has it as a dependency and it's linked into the desktop
[22:59] <sunnyd1> PCI (sysfs)
[22:59] <zachlr> i.e. to upgrade to 11.04 but not upgrade to FF 4
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: give it time, then pastebin the output
[22:59] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: NM, you may have installed it from the repository
[22:59] <ikonia> zachlr: firefox 4 is in 11.04
[22:59] <ikonia> !firefox
[22:59] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: In which case it wouldn't actually be there.
[22:59] <sunnyd1> http://pastebin.com/qTxDYmGA
[22:59] <ikonia> !info firefox
[23:00] <Polah> rationalOgre, LasBuntu: I remember when I used to run phpmyadmin on 10.04 there was no visible phpmyadmin directory in the web directory. It was accessible via url.com/phpmyadmin, but looking in the actual web directory didn't show it.
[23:00] <ikonia> zachlr: there you go, 11.04 contains firefox 4
[23:00] <zachlr> ikonia, I know, but if FF upgrades it will break a bunch of my addons, so I don't want to upgrade FF.
[23:00] <rationalOgre> Polah: Yeah, it does that if you install it from the repository.
[23:00] <edbian> res22_: You there?
[23:00] <zachlr> but I do want to upgrade ubuntu
[23:00] <ikonia> zachlr: you won't be able to do that realisticll
[23:00] <sunnyd1> where do i enable 3 D !!!! ?
[23:00] <ikonia> zachlr: realistically
[23:00] <res22_> I'm running a livecd at the moment resizing my partitions (10.04 livecd), so I can't run that on the broken system atm. However I think the kernel drivers are iwagln
[23:00] <Polah> LasBuntu: I also might recommend you try using SQLBuddy instead of PHPMyAdmin, it's a bit more lightweight from what I've heard.
[23:01] <res22_> edbian: I'm running a livecd at the moment resizing my partitions (10.04 livecd), so I can't run that on the broken system atm. However I think the kernel drivers are iwagln
[23:01] <res22_> also, thanks
[23:01] <zachlr> ikonia, I thought you could install it from the mozilla repository
[23:01] <LasBuntu> rationalOgre, negative ghost rider...
[23:01] <ikonia> zachlr: you can, however a.) firefox 4 will still be on your system and intergrated into your desktop b.) the mozilla repo has no support or promise of work
[23:01] <LasBuntu> but my internet connection is screwing up too it seems, lol
[23:02] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: go to /etc/apache2/conf.d/ and look for a symlink
[23:02] <edbian> res22_: run sudo lspci -k on the live CD  It will work the same  (it just scans the hardware)
[23:02] <locki> ok, can i install and run logmein on the natty? or is there a way to 'install' logmein within the 'wine' install?
[23:03] <Polah> locki: You can get Teamviewer for Linux which I think does pretty much the same thing
[23:03] <LekeFly> Anyone having problem with ubuntu 11.04 hanging in GRUB menu?
[23:03] <LasBuntu> rationalOgre, I see charset  javascript-common.conf  localized-error-pages  other-vhosts-access-log  security, so i'm guessing the phpmyadmin installed messed up?
[23:03] <res22_> edbian: http://pastebin.com/n1v4vJAk
[23:03] <edbian> res22_: Thanks
[23:03] <locki> Polah: but for teamviwer to work there have to be actively 2  participants (so they can share log/pass)
[23:03] <locki> wrong?
[23:04] <locki> Polah: i want to be able to access the DESKTOP remotely
[23:04] <locki> so i can use firefox (or other browsers)
[23:04] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: Looks like
[23:04] <rationalOgre> navigate to /etc/phpmyadmin/
[23:04] <rationalOgre> See apache.conf in there?
[23:04] <edbian> res22_: REading
[23:04] <res22_> kk
[23:04] <Polah> Locki: yeah, if you set up Teamviewer and then set a password in its options then ID and password stay the same. You'll be able to connect using another machine with the client on it as long as it's running on the remote machine.
[23:04] <sunnyd1> it works now that 3d is enabled !
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: try:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current      then reboot
[23:04] <sunnyd1> thanks guys !!!!!
[23:05] <sunnyd1> what's the app to edit menus
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: oh, thats cool, no need :)
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> sunnyd1: alacarte
[23:05] <edbian> res22_: sudo iwlist scan    What output do you get?
[23:06] <usr13> edbian: I think you will need to specify NIC name.
[23:06] <res22_> edbian: interface doesn't support scanning
[23:06] <res22_> for both
[23:06] <res22_> wait
[23:06] <res22_> hold on, I'll pastebin
[23:06] <edbian> res22_: For 'both'?  There should be 3
[23:06] <edbian> res22_: holding
[23:06] <edbian> usr13: NIC name?
[23:07] <usr13> sudo iwlist wlan scan
[23:07] <res22_> edbian: http://pastebin.com/wZxLzyiB
[23:07] <edbian> usr13: You don't have to
[23:07] <usr13> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[23:07] <usr13> edbian: Oh, ok
[23:07] <res22_> edbian: remember this is on the livecd, with fully working wireless
[23:07] <locki> Polah, where do you get it (tviwer) and how to install?
[23:07] <edbian> res22_: The interface is up and it is scanning networks.  What is the problem?
[23:07] <edbian> res22_: Oh, so then on your installed Ubuntu we will see different results here?
[23:08] <res22_> edbian: maybe, I'm definately going to try these again before I overwrite the install
[23:08] <res22_> edbian: what are you looking for with this info?
[23:08] <Polah> locki: Grab this and extract it: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.tar.gz You can run it just by running the teamviewer script in there after extracting it.
[23:08] <res22_> maybe I can work it out after I leave irc
[23:08] <edbian> res22_: I was testing that the card works.   It does.  :)
[23:08] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: Still there?
[23:08] <edbian> res22_: Forgot we were on liveCD
[23:09] <res22_> edbian: the problem is the card works, in that it can see networks. It just won't connect to networks :/
[23:09] <locki> Polah: got it (on desktop w/ firefox)
[23:09] <Rollin> anyone with ati gfx + ubuntu 11.04 + latest software updates that does not get a black screen on bootup? (dellstudio 1558 here)
[23:09] <edbian> res22_: Ahhh, harder problem.  Have you tried connecting to a completely open network (often this is easier)
[23:10] <Polah> locki: Okay so run it (not in terminal) and then go to Extras > options in the top left
[23:10] <res22_> edbian: honestly I haven't, but even if I could the problem would remain
[23:10] <bis0n> hello
[23:10] <res22_> edbian: it's weird, because when I upgraded form 10.04 to 10.10, it worked fine, but when I try the 10.10 livecd, it doesn't work
[23:10] <edbian> res22_: Strange.
[23:11] <LasBuntu> rationalOgre, : yeah, googled for what to symlink, thanks :)
[23:11] <vlt_> Hello. Can I control an OOo presentation from a shell (via ssh)? Does anyone know?
[23:11] <nawk> MonkeyDust same result -- problem persists.  Btw, There is no directory under '/' (root) by the name "apps".  Also, if I decide to take the naive/noobish route to reinstall the system, how should I person enable properly enable 3d cube w/o causing the Window manager to break?
[23:11] <bis0n> I'm searching the better regex for find if my entry contain only one number
[23:11] <Polah> vlt_: Did you not try with the ssh -X flag?
[23:12] <mvdir> I am trying to preseed, but I am still being asked some questions about my location and keyboard, which I think locale should take care of, is there any way to find what specific config relates to a question?
[23:12] <nawk> MonkeyDust: perhaps, I can I paste you the output resulting from the command you gave me?
[23:12] <res22_> edbian: thanks for your help
[23:13] <nawk> MonkeyDust, http://codepad.org/fixQCZmK
[23:13] <edbian> res22_: sure
[23:14] <edbian> Although I don't feel like I did anything!
[23:14] <Polah> locki: Still there?
[23:14] <rationalOgre> res22_: you leaving or do you have a moment to try some things?
[23:15] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: So it's all working now?
[23:15] <res22_> rationalOgre: I have time, but I'm currently running off a livecd which has working internet, so it'd be hard to debug
[23:15] <res22_> rationalOgre: but if you've any suggestions, I'm all ears
[23:15] <res22_> even getting an idea of what's causing the problem would allow me to file a bug
[23:16] <rationalOgre> res22_: So it works in the liveCD but when you install it compltely it crashes?
[23:16] <rationalOgre> networking I mean
[23:16] <locki> Polah, yes srry
[23:16] <res22_> rationalOgre: the 10.04 livecd works, but later versions can only view networks, but can never connect
[23:16] <locki> run it/
[23:17] <locki> it downloaded and opened up a window with a list of folders!
[23:17] <rationalOgre> res22_: you checked to see if there's a driver conflict going on?
[23:17] <Polah> locki: What list of folders?
[23:17] <res22_> rationalOgre: 10.10 works after installing 10.04 and upgrading, but the livecd doesn't
[23:17] <locki> and a tewmviwer.exe file
[23:17] <res22_> rationalOgre: kind of, but the driver works
[23:17] <rationalOgre> res22_: The later versions might be activating extra drivers that conflict.
[23:17] <Polah> locki: Where is that located?
[23:17] <Plugh> How do I remove the "Universal Access Preferences" icon from the panel at the top of my gnome desktop in Ubuntu 11.04?
[23:17] <res22_> rationalOgre: any tips on how to spot conflicts?
[23:17] <locki> Polah: desktop
[23:18] <quaestio> hello, I have a question: I want to install ubuntu 11.04 on my new FreeDOS laptop. Since it doesn't have a disk drive I will use a usb stick. I found and understood the instructions on how to do this with 'startup disk creator' in the download section (I'm on a friend's ubuntu laptop). My problem is that the only usb stick I have available is just 1GB (in the instructions it says it must be at least 2 GB). Will it work anyway?
[23:19] <shinta7> is there a way to increase the max auto output in ubuntu? im watching a movie with both the program and ubuntu maxed and its lower than normal, at least normal for windows 7
[23:19] <szal> bleh..  I can't seem to get my freshly installed Natty to boot..  surprisingly it didn't destroy my existing SUSE bootloader, so I thought I could make Natty chainload, but whatever combination of devices I try I get "Invalid file format" (not exact wording, but that's what it says)..  any help w/ that?
[23:20] <szal> shinta7: output of what?
[23:20] <shinta7> audio
[23:20] <shinta7> sorry
[23:20] <Plugh> nm, I got it. It was something to do with keyboard settings
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> shinta7: sound level should be the same as windows unless you're using diff equalizer settings
[23:21] <rationalOgre> res22_: sudo lshw -C network in the livecd and look at the configuration: line for the wireless card's entry. note what driver= says
[23:21] <omid_o> wired genius mouse dosnt work in new ubuntu installition(not even the live mode) while works in win xp !! any ideas?
[23:21] <shinta7> Ive never changed them in neither operating system
[23:21] <rationalOgre> Then boot into 10.10 or whatever and run the same command, look and see if it's loading the same driver.
[23:22] <quaestio> hello, I have a question: I want to install ubuntu 11.04 on my new FreeDOS laptop. Since it doesn't have a disk drive I will use a usb stick. I found and understood the instructions on how to do this with 'startup disk creator' in the download section (I'm on a friend's ubuntu laptop). My problem is that the only usb stick I have available is just 1GB (in the instructions it says it must be at least 2 GB). Will it work anyway?
[23:22] <brown_fern> Smashcat: Did you get any help for your wireless PCI card problem? I might be unable to help you myself, but using the output of the "lspci" command one can identify the chip manufacturer (names such as Atheros or Broadcom) of their wifi card, and then look up that information on Hardware Compatibility Lists, as found by using Google to search.
[23:23] <aeon-ltd> shinta7: i think vlc can amplify up to 400% volume
[23:23] <shinta7> alrighty ill try vlc
[23:23] <shinta7> thank you
[23:24] <kurisu> is there a way to backup and restore EVERYTHING for a fresh dist install easily i.e - all installed programs, configs, files etc
[23:24] <locki> download teamviewer_linux.tar.gz , but when double click on it, it prompts an error, anyone has any idea?
[23:24] <szal> omid_o: don't buy cr*p, use quality (specifically, Logitech or Microsoft (don't look like a cow in a thunderstorm, MS hardware is actually pretty good))
[23:24] <LasBuntu> rationalOgre, yeah, works fine once I link it, thanks
[23:24] <res22_> rationalOgre: the driver is iwlagn
[23:24] <rationalOgre> LasBuntu: Welcome.
[23:24] <locki> any ideas?
[23:25] <Smashcat> brown_fern: Thanks for the offer of help - I found a driver in the end for it so it's all good!
[23:25] <kurisu> locki: whats the error?
[23:25] <kavurt> i can't upload pics to facebook using f-spot
[23:26] <rationalOgre> res22_: is your network a wireless-N only?
[23:26] <kurisu> does anyone know of a way to backup and restore EVERYTHING for a fresh dist install easily i.e - all installed programs, configs, files etc
[23:26] <Ludite> clonzilla
[23:27] <brown_fern> Smashcat: Nice!
[23:27] <Smashcat> Yeah, I had to build it from source, but it's working great now!
[23:27] <locki> hm, ok, managed to download/install/run teamviwer, now, any one knows how to set it up so i can access the DESKTOP of this machine via the teamviwer installed here?
[23:27] <res22_> rationalOgre: I don't think so, I think it's just G
[23:28] <rationalOgre> res22_: ok.
[23:28] <dijonyummy123> is there a linux app like acrobat? i have a pdf and want to add a signed signature to it. in acrobat i add a stamp thats a jpg.
[23:28] <res22_> rationalOgre: here's the dmesg for wlan0 and iwlagn, I'd forgotten I saved it http://pastebin.com/f5pU6SuG
[23:28] <res22_> from the broken system
[23:28] <Smashcat> brown_fern: Makes it a lot easier to add ROMs - this linux box is in a MAME arcade cabinet, so it's hard to get to normally ;-)
[23:28] <res22_> I might use this to report a bug
[23:29] <omid_o> szal its for my friend(i'm actually guiding her on the phone and she has an old system) and even if its crap it must work on ubuntu when it works on windows
[23:30] <daviddoria> I am getting an error while compiling some code "missing libXt.so"
[23:30] <daviddoria> it looks like this should be provided by libxt-dev, which I have installed (ubuntu 11.04)
[23:30] <daviddoria> but I indeed do not have /usr/lib/libXt.so
[23:30] <brown_fern> Smashcat: I can imagine, wow, that sounds like fun though. :)
[23:30] <Ludite> PDFEdit perhaps??
[23:31] <Smashcat> brown_fern: Heh, yeah - going to write some code so it will tweet my high scores - should be good fun when it's done
[23:32] <szal> omid_o: if she's her gf, do her a favour, grab 40 bucks (or whatever currency you're using) & get her an MX-518..  lies well in the hand & works w/o further ado
[23:32] <daviddoria> I do have this, /usr/lib/libXtst.so.6 - should I make a symlink?
[23:33] <res22_> daviddoria: I installed the package and have libXt.so in /usr/lib
[23:33] <szal> s/her gf/your gf/
[23:34] <rsharma> Hi
[23:34] <curiousx> Hi gkahn =)
[23:34] <rsharma> I would like to know, how can i remove KDE software that is installed in my Ubuntu system? I had tried out the KDE Enviorment, but did not really like it so I Want to remove it (II have Ubuntu 10.04)
[23:34] <curiousx> whats about the flash player on your web browser ?
[23:35] <quaestio> hello, I have a question: I want to install ubuntu 11.04 on my new FreeDOS laptop. Since it doesn't have a disk drive I will use a usb stick. I found and understood the instructions on how to do this with 'startup disk creator' in the download section (I'm on a friend's ubuntu laptop). My problem is that the only usb stick I have available is just 1GB (in the instructions it says it must be at least 2 GB). Will it work anyway?
[23:36] <rationalOgre> res22_: Reason 16 is "Group Key Handshake failed/timed out"
[23:36] <daviddoria> weird, it is in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXt.so - what's up with that?
[23:36] <rsharma> @quaestio - It should work
[23:37] <omid_o> szal she is far away from me( i'm in tehran while she is in mashhad  739.68 kilometers ! )
[23:39] <rationalOgre> res22_: paste the results of modinfo iwlagn please
[23:39] <administrator> 8211
[23:39] <administrator> yahoo messenger
[23:40] <spiekey> Hello!
[23:40] <spiekey> where do i enable root gdm login in natty?
[23:40] <quellhorst> how can i pull up the safe mode of ubuntu
[23:41] <res22_> rationalOgre: this is it for the livecd http://pastebin.com/Fbc3syHa
[23:41] <julie> quellhorst, it is one of the boot options
[23:41] <quellhorst> i don't see the boot options screen
[23:41] <quellhorst> julie: so how do i pull that up?
[23:41] <julie> quellhorst, do you only have one OS installed?
[23:42] <rationalOgre> spiekey: System > Administration > Security Tab > check Allow root to login with GDM
[23:42] <quellhorst> 11.04
[23:42] <quellhorst> yes, only one os
[23:42] <mvsn> Hello... I was wondering if someone might be able to point me in the right direction.. i have 2 1TB hard drives, in bios I set them to Raid, went into the configuration menu and specified Raid-1... when I install ubuntu it seems to detect it as a raid, but i cannot get past "executing grub-install /dev/sda failed"... trying to install ubuntu 11.04 64bit..
[23:42] <quellhorst> i saw the screen before, but don't see it now
[23:42] <res22_> modinfo iwlagn gives alot of useful info
[23:42] <spiekey> rationalOgre, there is no security tab
[23:42] <spiekey> i am in the classic view
[23:43] <nawk> I broke my WM simply by checkboxing desktop cube and ignoring the conflicts between compiz and the ubuntu unity plugin in CompizConfig Settings Manager
[23:43] <nawk> Another user suggested that I do:
[23:43] <nawk> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace &
[23:44] <nawk> roblem persists and here is the output
[23:44] <nawk> http://codepad.org/fixQCZmK
[23:44] <Cat-Meow> I need help with something
[23:45] <Cat-Meow> ubuntu will freeze, but I can still move the mouse, only option I have is to hard reboot
[23:45] <julie> quellhorst, don't you see “GRUB loading. please wait… Press Esc to enter the menu…”?
[23:45] <brown_fern> dijonyummy123: Running Synaptic, the package manager, I find any number of PDF editors, and such. Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software#Unix_.2F_Linux  though it looks as though OpenOffice.org would work (titled LibreOffice under Ubuntu 11.04). Let us know if I've misinterpreted your your question.
[23:46] <nawk> If I'll just do a reinstall of natty narwhal (b/c of this)
[23:46] <nawk> How do I properly enable 3d desktop in CompizConfig Settings Manager w/o breaking Unity?
[23:47] <quellhorst> julie: nope
[23:47] <Polah> nawk: you could not use Unity
[23:47] <johnny77> I'm trying to upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10. When I click upgrade on Update Manager it asks for a password, and when I enter my password it says it's wrong. I'm using the sudo password. is that right?
[23:47] <rationalOgre> res22_: I'm at a loss, sorry. Either it's a driver conflict or they changed something after 10.04
[23:47] <julie> quellhorst,  well you should try pressing ESC or space right after the BIOS screen
[23:48] <nawk> Polah: So, you are saying, 3d Cube and 3D Desktop  does not work with Unity/
[23:48] <nawk> ?
[23:48] <julie> quellhorst, sorry I meant ESC or SHIFT
[23:48] <Polah> johnny77: Is capslock on? It should be the password for your account (provided your account is an administrator account)
[23:48] <Polah> nawk: There might be a way to make it work, I was just suggesting that not using Unity may be the easiest way if you want the 3D desktop features
[23:49] <quaestio> hello, I have a question: I want to install ubuntu 11.04 on my new FreeDOS laptop. Since it doesn't have a disk drive I will use a usb stick. I found and understood the instructions on how to do this with 'startup disk creator' in the download section (I'm on a friend's ubuntu laptop). My problem is that the only usb stick I have available is just 1GB (in the instructions it says it must be at least 2 GB). Will it work anyway?
[23:49] <res22_> rationalOgre: thanks for the help, I'm going to compare the output of modinfo iwlagn and see if I can narrow it down
[23:49] <Polah> quellhorst, julie; I've never seen a "loading GRUB..." message anywhere, but holding shift during boot should pull up the GRUB menu, letting you choose what system/version to boot into
[23:49] <julie> quaestio, someone told you it should work earlier although I do have my doubts
[23:49] <johnny77> Polah, No, caps lock is not on. There is only one account, just installed it. I know it's right because if I use sudo it accepts the password.
[23:49] <Cat-Meow> can anyone help me?
[23:49] <julie> Polah, that's what I said
[23:49] <julie> :P
[23:49] <rationalOgre> res22_: The big thing is to run sudo lshw -C network and look for more than one driver=blah on the configuration: line
[23:50] <Polah> johnny77: That's very strange. You could try temporarily logging onto the root account to do it and then relock root afterwards
[23:50] <res22_> rationalOgre: thanks
[23:50] <rationalOgre> res22_: If you have something liek driver=blah,bleh then blacklist one and reboot, if that doesn't work, swap and reboot.
[23:50] <rationalOgre> i.e. blacklist the other and unblacklist the first
[23:50] <quaestio> julie: I'm asking because the ISO is only under 700 MB
[23:51] <Polah> johnny77: sudo passwd root and then enter a password, log out and back in on the root account and upgrade, then afterwards do (sudo) passwd -l root to relock it
[23:51] <julie> quaestio, at worst you'll just have to start over
[23:51] <Polah> quaestio, I think that's just 2GB as a recommendation to install various programs.
[23:51] <bastidrazor> !noroot
[23:52] <Polah> bastidrazor: News to me. I told him how to relock it afterwards anyway.
[23:52] <Cat-Meow> 9_9
[23:53] <julie> instead of logging as root, you could "sudo sh" :P
[23:53] <Cat-Meow> am I invisable
[23:53] <nawk> Polah: how can I disable Unity, and bring back that simple gnome panel list-driven menu
[23:53] <nawk> ?
[23:53] <bastidrazor> !classic | nawk
[23:53] <Polah> nawk: Before you log on, select your user account and at the bottom where it says "Unity" change it to "Ubuntu Classic". Will give you a regular GNOMe interface.
[23:53] <Smashcat> is there anything i need to configure to allow root to run a crontab ? I've set one up but it's not running
[23:54] <Polah> Cat-Meow, what's your problem?
[23:54] <Cat-Meow> 11.04 keeps freezing. I can still move the mouse but no matter how long I wait or what I try to press, only a hard reboot works
[23:54] <jorge> como instalar usb
[23:55] <Polah> !es | jorge
[23:55] <julie> Smashcat, does it show up with "crontab -l"?
[23:55] <Smashcat> julie: yes
[23:55] <Polah> Cat-Meow, ah, wouldn't know how to help you with that. Sorry.
[23:55] <nit-wit> Cat-Meow, you wil have to provide more info, like the circumstances. Is it a app use overusing the cpu and ram?
[23:55] <jorge> a
[23:56] <quaestio> julie, polah: thx, i'll just try it and see. Also, since i only need it for installation , I won't need the 'reserved extra space' setting for saving things, so i can minimize that.
[23:56] <brown_fern> quaestio: Ubuntu Linux is a more full featured distribution than some, there are distros that place less demand on systems, in the way of system resources (RAM, storage space on a USB stick), and are otherwise geared for earlier speced systems. Consider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_linux
[23:56] <jorge> instalar
[23:56] <julie> Smashcat, then it should run if you added it correctly and the file permissions allow your user to run it
[23:56] <Polah> quaestio: No, if it's just to be used to install Ubuntu on an actual system then you won't need the space. That space is if you want a persistent installation on the USB drive
[23:57] <Smashcat> julie: Well it's root, the script works if i call it manually (it's not directory specific)
[23:57] <Cat-Meow> I'm not sure, I don't think it does. I have 4gb of ram so should have enough memory. Also, it seems to happen randomly. Unless I use no program whatsoever
[23:57] <julie> Smashcat, is it part of root's crontab or your user's?
[23:57] <brown_fern> quaestio: I'm not trying to turn you away, just trying to find the right fit. What are the specifications of that machine? RAM? USB 2.0 or 1.1?
[23:57] <Cat-Meow> happens when I use firefox, qbittorrent, ipblock, whatever program
[23:57] <Smashcat> julie: It's root's crontab, not a normal user
[23:58] <Cat-Meow> seems to happen around when the computer either tries to go idle or use the screensaver
[23:58] <quaestio> polah: yes, thats what i suspected. So for an installation only usb stick, the 700 MB for the ISO is all that's needed right?
[23:59] <nit-wit> Cat-Meow, how much memory do you have.
[23:59] <Cat-Meow> 4GB
[23:59] <julie> Smashcat, you should check your /var/log/syslog
[23:59] <louet> hi, I'd like to format a usb key but when I type mkfs.vfat -F 32  /dev/sdc, permission's denied