[00:58] <mrdeb> what is new in 1110
[01:01] <BUGabundo> lol
[01:19] <BUGabundo> nite
[02:33] <alex_mayorga> !icedtea
[02:35] <alex_mayorga> Who do I talk to get the new version of Icedtea packaged?
[04:43] <alkisg> Is there any way to do the equivalent of `aptitude why package` with the packages available by default on oneiric? (e.g. apt-get)
[05:12] <IdleOne> alkisg: install apt-rdepends. I'm not sure that is exactly what you want but I think it is.
[05:13] <alkisg> IdleOne: so it cannot be done with the packages available by default on oneiric? OK, thanks, I can just install aptitude again then :)
[05:14] <IdleOne> I'm not sure
[05:14] <IdleOne> should be
[05:16] <IdleOne> alkisg: the output of apt-rdepends is much more detailed than aptitude why
[05:17] <alkisg> IdleOne: AFAIK apt-rdepends lists the dependencies, but not why a package was installed
[05:17] <alkisg> So it won't tell you if you manually installed a package, or if it was installed because of the dependency list
[05:18] <IdleOne> true
[05:18] <alkisg> I'm looking for the second case :)
[05:19] <IdleOne> but aren't depends installed automatically
[05:20] <alkisg> apt-get purge --auto-remove package-a
[05:20] <alkisg> If package-a depends on package-b, and nothing else depends on package-b, then package-b will be removed,
[05:21] <alkisg> *unless* you manually installed package-b
[05:21] <alkisg> There are cases where that last part is significant...
[05:21] <alkisg> E.g. I may want to know why dnsmasq is still on my system after removing ltsp-server. aptitude why wlil tell me that I installed it myself.
[05:22] <IdleOne> makes sense
[09:55] <photon> God, what have you guys done to ubuntu with unity?
[09:56] <photon> Is there any way I can install Ubuntu with Gnome?
[10:10] <cwillu> photon, you know that gnome is also breaking gnome these days, right?
[10:10] <cwillu> (i.e., "classic gnome" is going away upstream, apparently)
[10:10] <cwillu> this is probably as good a time as any to migrate to xfce or kde :p
[10:17] <elros> photon, you can take the plunge, upgrade to oneiric, install gnome-shell and then remove ubuntu-desktop and unity
[10:18] <elros> or you can install lxde and wait a few months for gnome to get fixed, fall in love with lxde and forget about gnome altogether
[10:20] <photon> why does gnome need fixing? and how well will Ubuntu work with a non-default wm?
[10:40] <elros> ubuntu works well with all kinds of window managers, and very well supported ones get official status, like kubuntu and xubuntu now have
[10:41] <elros> lubuntu (based on lxde) is likely to get official status in this cycle, you can join #lubuntu if you have questions about it
[10:41] <photon> thank you, elros
[13:16] <eagles0513875> hi guys :D
[13:16] <eagles0513875> apw: spoke too soon i dont have wifi now :(
[13:33] <eagles0513875> apw: network widget on kde is broken again lol then again nothing new lol
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:44] <yofel> eagles0513875: that *is* on the known issues list :P
[14:03] <eagles0513875> yofel: when is that widget not on the known issues list
[14:04] <yofel> you have a point there...
[14:26] <charlie-tca> Lost all sound, sound card, locale, and path in Oneiric?
[14:27] <charlie-tca> seems that path in /etc/environment, /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/login.def, and ~/.bashrc are now ignored
[14:53] <CarlFK> I am getting a kernel crash on shutdown.  where can I hook a script to start netconsole early in the shutdown process?
[15:42] <Ian_Corne> anyone know where unity goes to look for the icon it displays in an application?
[15:54] <coz_> Ian_Corne,   probably in /usr/share/icons
[15:54] <coz_> Ian_Corne,  somtimes   /usr/share/pixmaps
[15:55] <coz_> Ian_Corne,  if the application is not in the default list of icons  it will be in /usr/share/pixmaps,, in other words,, if the onboard icons dont have an icon for that particular application,, it "generally" will be in /usr/share/pixmaps
[15:56] <Ian_Corne> I'm trying to give eclipse the eclipse icon :)
[15:58] <Ian_Corne> it should look in the executable's dir  for an icon if it doesn't find it tbh
[15:59] <coz_> Ian_Corne,  oh hmm.. which icon is it using?  a default one?
[16:08] <Ian_Corne> it was using a square with a question mark in
[16:08] <Ian_Corne> "sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/icon.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps/eclipse.xpm" fixed it
[16:12]  * cwillu_at_work makes /opt a fuse mount that tracks down and stabs the creator of any packages that end up there
[16:27] <Ian_Corne> package?
[16:27] <Ian_Corne> hah, i put it there myself :p
[16:27] <Ian_Corne> what's wrong with it?
[19:44] <ScislaC> Is gnome-settings-daemon known to have issues for others currently?
[19:45] <ScislaC> (I'm assuming it's the issue as everything is unthemed)
[19:46] <trism> ScislaC: try installing gnome-themes-standard, there aren't many gtk 3 themes in the repo yet
[19:48] <ScislaC> trism: ahhhh, will do
[22:15] <SudoKing> i get 404 errors when I dist-upgrade
[22:30] <Andre_Gondim> SudoKing, try change your mirror