[00:58] what is new in 1110 [01:01] lol [01:19] nite [02:33] !icedtea [02:35] Who do I talk to get the new version of Icedtea packaged? [04:43] Is there any way to do the equivalent of `aptitude why package` with the packages available by default on oneiric? (e.g. apt-get) === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg [05:12] alkisg: install apt-rdepends. I'm not sure that is exactly what you want but I think it is. [05:13] IdleOne: so it cannot be done with the packages available by default on oneiric? OK, thanks, I can just install aptitude again then :) [05:14] I'm not sure [05:14] should be [05:16] alkisg: the output of apt-rdepends is much more detailed than aptitude why [05:17] IdleOne: AFAIK apt-rdepends lists the dependencies, but not why a package was installed [05:17] So it won't tell you if you manually installed a package, or if it was installed because of the dependency list [05:18] true [05:18] I'm looking for the second case :) [05:19] but aren't depends installed automatically [05:20] apt-get purge --auto-remove package-a [05:20] If package-a depends on package-b, and nothing else depends on package-b, then package-b will be removed, [05:21] *unless* you manually installed package-b [05:21] There are cases where that last part is significant... [05:21] E.g. I may want to know why dnsmasq is still on my system after removing ltsp-server. aptitude why wlil tell me that I installed it myself. [05:22] makes sense [09:55] God, what have you guys done to ubuntu with unity? [09:56] Is there any way I can install Ubuntu with Gnome? [10:10] photon, you know that gnome is also breaking gnome these days, right? [10:10] (i.e., "classic gnome" is going away upstream, apparently) [10:10] this is probably as good a time as any to migrate to xfce or kde :p [10:17] photon, you can take the plunge, upgrade to oneiric, install gnome-shell and then remove ubuntu-desktop and unity [10:18] or you can install lxde and wait a few months for gnome to get fixed, fall in love with lxde and forget about gnome altogether [10:20] why does gnome need fixing? and how well will Ubuntu work with a non-default wm? [10:40] ubuntu works well with all kinds of window managers, and very well supported ones get official status, like kubuntu and xubuntu now have [10:41] lubuntu (based on lxde) is likely to get official status in this cycle, you can join #lubuntu if you have questions about it [10:41] thank you, elros [13:16] hi guys :D [13:16] apw: spoke too soon i dont have wifi now :( [13:33] apw: network widget on kde is broken again lol then again nothing new lol [13:39] Hiyas [13:44] eagles0513875: that *is* on the known issues list :P [14:03] yofel: when is that widget not on the known issues list [14:04] you have a point there... [14:26] Lost all sound, sound card, locale, and path in Oneiric? [14:27] seems that path in /etc/environment, /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/login.def, and ~/.bashrc are now ignored [14:53] I am getting a kernel crash on shutdown. where can I hook a script to start netconsole early in the shutdown process? [15:42] anyone know where unity goes to look for the icon it displays in an application? [15:54] Ian_Corne, probably in /usr/share/icons [15:54] Ian_Corne, somtimes /usr/share/pixmaps [15:55] Ian_Corne, if the application is not in the default list of icons it will be in /usr/share/pixmaps,, in other words,, if the onboard icons dont have an icon for that particular application,, it "generally" will be in /usr/share/pixmaps [15:56] I'm trying to give eclipse the eclipse icon :) [15:58] it should look in the executable's dir for an icon if it doesn't find it tbh [15:59] Ian_Corne, oh hmm.. which icon is it using? a default one? [16:08] it was using a square with a question mark in [16:08] "sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/icon.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps/eclipse.xpm" fixed it [16:12] * cwillu_at_work makes /opt a fuse mount that tracks down and stabs the creator of any packages that end up there [16:27] package? [16:27] hah, i put it there myself :p [16:27] what's wrong with it? === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ === Mkaysi is now known as SSH111 === SSH111 is now known as Mkaysi [19:44] Is gnome-settings-daemon known to have issues for others currently? [19:45] (I'm assuming it's the issue as everything is unthemed) [19:46] ScislaC: try installing gnome-themes-standard, there aren't many gtk 3 themes in the repo yet [19:48] trism: ahhhh, will do === zniavre2_ is now known as zniavre === funnylookinhat is now known as FunnyLookinHat === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:15] i get 404 errors when I dist-upgrade [22:30] SudoKing, try change your mirror