[00:58] <JackXu> Hey, latest Xubuntu, screen brightness won't change on a Samsung N150 (Atom 1.66). Hotkey gives brightness indicator, but no change, and my brightness changes in Power Settings don't "save"
[00:58] <JackXu> Any ideas?
[00:59] <holstein> JackXu: how about in gnome?
[00:59] <holstein> or unity?
[00:59] <holstein> have you tried that with a live CD ?
[01:00] <JackXu> No Gnome, and in Xu, it wouldn't change before, but i rebooted it while on battery and now it's stuck at 20%
[01:01] <JackXu> *Xfce
[01:01] <holstein> right, xubuntu is running XFCE
[01:01] <JackXu> Yeah, lol, just sounded funny to say "Xu"
[01:01] <holstein> what im wondering is.. is there a scenario in which you have encountered normal functionality ?
[01:03] <JackXu> Nope
[01:04] <JackXu> I looked, I don't even have a "VGA" or anything graphical in my /proc/acpi dir
[01:04] <holstein> i found a bug
[01:04] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/574250
[01:04] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 574250 in udev "SAMSUNG N150 Laptop : Brightness issue" [Undecided,Fix released]
[01:04] <holstein> down the page a bit
[01:04] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:voria/ppa
[01:04] <holstein> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:04] <holstein> sudo apt-get install samsung-tools samsung-backlight
[01:05] <holstein> JackXu: as long as you are comfortable with ppa-purge, it wont hurt to try it
[01:05] <JackXu> not familiar with it, not afraid to try
[01:06] <holstein> JackXu: well, just so you know whats going on, and you're not just copy and pasting randomly
[01:06] <holstein> looks like a nice PPA https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa/
[01:07] <holstein> JackXu: you'll want to reboot after installing those pacakges
[01:08] <JackXu> ok, and i should probably nab all of them?
[01:08] <holstein> well, those 2
[01:08] <holstein> samsung-tools samsung-backlight
[01:08] <holstein> JackXu: open a terminal
[01:08] <holstein> copy and paste in..
[01:08] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:voria/ppa
[01:09] <JackXu> Yup yup
[01:09] <JackXu> I'm installing them now
[01:09] <holstein> ^ that will add that source and give you access
[01:09] <holstein> JackXu: AH, ok
[01:09] <JackXu> yeah, add rep, update the rep listing, install the packages
[01:10] <JackXu> i understand more or less, just don't know what to type/ or understand all the commands "&&" does both or something, but i don't  know when to use or not use them
[01:11] <JackXu> holdstein: thanks for the help, gonna reboot now and let you know if it didn't work
[01:11] <holstein> JackXu: it'll get more common though
[01:11] <JackXu> whew, lol, big learning curve
[01:11] <holstein> i just didnt want to drop a bunch of copy and paste in commands without telling you what they do
[01:11] <JackXu> appreciate it
[01:25] <jackxu> holstein: it worked, keyboard brightness, and the fn- keys work too, nifty control panel and all. thank you
[01:41] <holstein> jackxu: :)
[01:41] <holstein> anytime
[01:44] <jackxu> holstein: :)
[01:53] <ranilynn> my internet wont work
[02:23] <ranilynn> hi everyone my internet won't connect even though it detects wireless networks it just says ralink 802.11 bg WLAN then disconnected followed by my home internet
[02:23] <ranilynn> hi everyone my internet won't connect even though it detects wireless networks it just says ralink 802.11 bg WLAN then disconnected followed by my home internet
[02:24] <holstein> ranilynn: i would try a different driver... maybe even the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[02:24] <ranilynn> can i install the windows driver?
[02:24] <holstein> ranilynn: assuming you have a known good access point, and you know the machine is the issue
[02:25] <holstein> ranilynn: you dont install the windows driver, you use it with ndiswrapper
[02:25] <holstein> ranilynn: is it a known good access point?
[02:25] <ranilynn> holstein: it has to be my laptop connects to the internet and i've reset my modem/router
[02:25] <ranilynn> holtein: it's a good access point
[02:26] <holstein> OK
[02:26] <holstein> ranilynn: do you have a windows driver handy?
[02:26] <holstein> you'll just need the .inf part
[02:26] <holstein> driver.inf or whatever
[02:26] <holstein> ini?
[02:26] <ranilynn> holstein: no i don't have them handy
[02:26]  * holstein looking
[02:27] <holstein> ranilynn: would you like to look at the manufacturers site?
[02:27] <holstein> see if you can dig them up
[02:27] <holstein> i usually go for the XP ones
[02:27] <ranilynn> holstein: i went to the manufacturer's site for the linux ones to get 404 not found
[02:28] <holstein> ranilynn: right, we are interested in the XP ones right now
[02:28] <ranilynn> holstein: ok
[02:29] <ranilynn> holstein: i'm at the manufacturer's website under windows support
[02:29] <ranilynn> http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php
[02:29] <holstein> cool, go for it... you'll want to unzip it
[02:30] <holstein> i was thinking more like, at the dell site or whatever
[02:30] <holstein> but, give it a go
[02:31] <ranilynn> does it matter which ones i go with or just pick one
[02:31] <holstein> ranilynn: i would suggest, again, going to the manufacturers site, such as dell or toshiba, and getting the drivers for XP
[02:32] <holstein> but, you can just get them, and try them
[02:32] <ranilynn> ok i'm doing that
[02:34] <holstein> ranilynn: tell me what chipset you have, and we'll look at other potentially easier options
[02:35] <ranilynn> how do i find the chipset
[02:35] <holstein> open a terminal
[02:35] <holstein> run..
[02:35] <holstein> lspci
[02:35] <holstein> and you'll see it there
[02:35] <holstein> you can run
[02:35] <ranilynn> and hp only has lightscribe drivers
[02:35] <holstein> lspci -v
[02:36] <ranilynn> do you want me to paste this to you
[02:36] <holstein> ranilynn: before we do any of this, can you plug it in to a router, and check for, and apply upgrades?
[02:37] <holstein> ranilynn: you can pastebin if you want
[02:37] <ranilynn> already did that
[02:37] <holstein> or just paste that one line*
[02:37] <ranilynn> there's a lot of lines
[02:37] <ranilynn> :/
[02:37] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:38] <ranilynn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/622200/
[02:40] <holstein> ranilynn: hmmm, it doesnt seem to be picked up
[02:40] <holstein> ranilynn: what is the unit?
[02:40] <holstein> hp mininote?
[02:40] <ranilynn> hp slimline
[02:41] <ranilynn> s5150t
[02:47] <ranilynn> holsein: hp slimline s5150t
[02:48] <ranilynn> holstein: would my win7 backup disk have the drivers?
[02:49] <holstein> ranilynn: maybe.. are you plugged in?
[02:49] <holstein> you need to get a package
[02:49] <holstein> sin a terminal
[02:49] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[02:49] <holstein> you can run that from the menu (called windows drivers, or something like that)
[02:50] <ranilynn> it's running
[02:50] <ranilynn> now should i reboot when it's done?
[02:50] <holstein> nope
[02:50] <holstein> ndisgtk is running?
[02:50] <holstein> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/temp/netathr.inf
[02:50] <holstein> try that driver
[02:51] <holstein> i extracted it from the .exe on the HP site
[02:51] <holstein> *didnt say ralink though
[02:51] <ranilynn> do i just copy all this into terminal
[02:52] <holstein> nah
[02:52] <holstein> ranilynn: you have ndisgtk running?
[02:52] <holstein> thats what i thought you meant by 'its running'
[02:52] <ranilynn> it's already done
[02:52] <holstein> OK
[02:52] <ranilynn> i put that in and hit enter
[02:52] <holstein> so, download that driver
[02:52] <holstein> ranilynn: put what it?
[02:53] <holstein> that URL?
[02:53] <holstein> you need to download it, right?
[02:53] <holstein> you did that?
[02:54] <holstein> then, point ndisgtk at the downloaded netathr.inf
[02:54] <holstein> it'll either magically fire up, or you'll need to do some research
[03:35] <philipballew> can someone help me with recovering my files off a messed up flash drive
[03:36] <holstein> philipballew: sure
[03:36] <holstein> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[03:36] <holstein> and use photorec
[03:36] <holstein> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[03:38] <philipballew> sudo photorec i assume. my friend was copying files from a flash drish drive when the drive was while still in the laptop came up with a message saying unsafe removel of hardware
[03:38] <philipballew> then the files on the flash drive were not in the folder
[03:39] <philipballew> holstein,
[03:41] <ch3ckmatez> hello~
[03:56] <philipballew> holstein, photorec can not find file headers, i get errors when it starts the recovery
[03:56] <holstein> maybe they didnt go at all
[03:56] <holstein> if it got pulled before the files got actually written
[03:57] <philipballew> well the files would still be there untill something is wrotten over
[03:57] <holstein> photorec'll copy them then
[03:58] <holstein> im not sure about headers
[03:58] <holstein> it doesnt preserve filenames
[03:58] <philipballew> maybe i'm doing it wrong
[03:59] <holstein> plausible :)
[03:59] <holstein> i had to try several times the first go around
[04:00] <philipballew> if ubuntu ever goes mainstream i expect a bunch og gui programs will be written for terminal programs
[04:01] <philipballew> ill probably still use terminal stuff though
[04:03] <philipballew> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/recoverdeletedfiles/   this is the guide im using
[04:05] <holstein> philipballew: but, you didnt delete them
[04:06] <holstein> right?
[04:07] <philipballew> no i did not. i belive osx's default is to when you drag and drop it copys is
[04:07] <philipballew> *it
[04:08] <philipballew> holstein,
[04:08] <holstein> most every OS i know of assumes copy from different disks
[04:08] <holstein> i mean, if you lost them in a copy
[04:08] <holstein> just go to the original
[04:08] <holstein> the USB stick is the original?
[04:09] <philipballew> yeah it is
[04:09] <holstein> nah, that doesnt make sense
[04:09] <philipballew> the files were orinigaly on the flash drive
[04:09] <holstein> well, there still there then
[04:10] <holstein> just let photorec copy all the stuff off, and weed through it
[04:13] <philipballew> ill try. it keeps giving a weird error
[04:13] <holstein> just let it chew on the whole thing
[04:14] <philipballew> how so?
[04:14] <holstein> i mean, i just select the options as they come
[04:14] <holstein> i dont remember the particulars
[04:14] <philipballew> the guide im using seemes good
[04:14] <philipballew> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/recoverdeletedfiles/
[04:15] <holstein> eh, i just read the options
[04:15] <holstein> choose a source and destination and wait
[04:16] <philipballew> sounds easier then it really is
[04:17] <holstein> well, best case scenario, in a couple hours, you got a bunch of files to go through
[04:18] <holstein> data recovery is not trivial, thats why those recovery folk do so well
[04:18] <holstein> but, im sure you can sort it out
[04:26] <philipballew> holstein, what type of partition would it be?
[04:27] <holstein> philipballew: whatever type it is
[04:27] <holstein> i forget the options, but i just go with the most appropriate for the partition type
[04:27] <philipballew> haha. i think this flash drive is coroupted :(
[04:28] <holstein> sure, but if its showing up, photorec is the deal
[04:28] <philipballew> it mounts though
[04:28] <holstein> i had one on my phone that died
[04:28] <holstein> it didnt mount
[04:28] <holstein> but, it showed up after a LONG wait
[04:28] <holstein> i even tried writing a new table
[04:28] <holstein> then, i just let photorec chew on it overnight
[04:28] <holstein> got all the stuff
[04:29] <holstein> this was actually a microSD card
[04:29] <philipballew_> i'm probably just doing the options wrong
[04:29] <holstein> philipballew_: maybe
[04:30] <holstein> is it just an ext3 or 4?
[04:30] <holstein> something normal?
[04:30] <holstein> or FAT?
[04:30] <philipballew_> its fat i belive
[04:30] <philipballew_> maybe ntfs
[04:30] <holstein> i pretty much go with the defaults
[04:30] <philipballew_> its just a simple flash drive
[04:31] <holstein> pretty sure i did intel as type
[04:31] <holstein> and did the whole disk
[04:31] <philipballew_> ill try it
[04:31] <holstein> philipballew_: are the errors relating to the destination maybe?
[04:33] <philipballew_> holstein, it sayd there are zero files to recover
[04:33] <holstein> philipballew_: thats not good
[04:33] <holstein> are you pointing to the right place?
[04:33] <holstein> i mean, you can mount it right?
[04:33] <holstein> and you see files on it?
[04:35] <philipballew_> no. i dont see files on it. yes it mounts. i think the files were lost when they were being copied off them and the drive glitched
[04:35] <holstein> philipballew_: thats very odd
[04:35] <holstein> if photorec dont see anything to save, then you can give up i say
[04:36] <holstein> thats my go-to for jobs like that
[04:36] <philipballew_> well they were being copied and the drive somehow unmounted and yet it was still in the drive
[04:36] <holstein> philipballew_: :/
[04:36] <holstein> yeah, who knows
[04:36] <philipballew_> then it said dont remove stuff without saftly ejecting
[04:36] <philipballew_> i dont know. crazy stuff
[04:37] <holstein> yeah, you should unmount in OSX too
[04:40] <philipballew_> thats what is weird because it was still phsyically inside the drive. intresting
[04:59] <ApOgEE> hi all
[04:59] <philipballew_> ApOgEE, hello!
[05:42] <dvz-> wuz good ppl
[12:11] <coalwater> if i have a command that needs a display, and i can pass it the display as a parameter, can i start it on an ssh and let it start on the running session that has x server running?
[13:26] <geirha> Yes, if you know the displaynumber of the remove display, you can do  ssh user@remote DISPLAY="displaynum" command
[13:26] <geirha> s/remove/remote/
[13:28] <geirha> If you want the remote command to use the local display, then  ssh -X user@remote command
[13:37] <coalwater> geirha, could u please explain the -X parameter
[13:39] <geirha> It enables X11 forwarding
[13:40] <geirha> ssh -X user@remote    will do some magic and set a DISPLAY variable on the remote end, which in turn means that any X11 programs you run from the remote shell will be displayed on your local display.
[13:41] <coalwater> hm
[13:41] <coalwater> ok that's cool but i think it needs a port
[13:41] <coalwater> ** Message: err: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-MF6a6ExfDr: Connection refused
[13:48] <geirha> That seems unrelated to X11 forwarding.
[18:18] <Sidewinder1> bodhi_zazen, And a hearty Good Afternoon to you! Or is it an hearty/..
[21:58] <philipballew> holstein, I managed to get all the data off from last night! thought i'd let you know
[22:12] <elks294> how would i view connections under http or https
[22:12] <elks294> or network ports in use
[22:13] <elks294> im running a newsreader and downloading but want to confirm port 443 is being used
[22:23] <elks294> ok nevermind
[22:23] <coalwater> elks294, use network tools, ull find a netstat tab, try active network services option and choose scan
[22:23] <coalwater> or u can just run 'netstat' on terminal
[22:23] <elks294> yes
[22:23] <elks294> i seen netstat but cant scroll up
[22:24] <elks294> the list is too long
[22:24] <elks294> how do i get to top of list in terminal
[22:24] <coalwater> use | less or | more, or use shift + page up
[22:24] <coalwater> or output the whole output in a file
[22:24] <coalwater> using >
[22:25] <coalwater> like netstat > output.txt
[22:25] <coalwater> then u can do a gedit output.txt
[22:25] <coalwater> so many options :P
[22:25] <elks294> ;]
[22:25] <coalwater> i like the pipe + less
[22:26] <coalwater> like netstat | less
[22:26] <elks294> shift + pgup does not get me to top of list
[22:26] <elks294> its cut out
[22:27] <coalwater> then use |less or | more or > output_file.txt
[22:27] <elks294> what is |less or| more
[22:28] <coalwater> lets try a fast command
[22:28] <coalwater> like try "lshw | less"
[22:28] <coalwater> then u can scroll up and down with arrows
[22:28] <coalwater> or use "more" instead of "less"
[22:28] <coalwater> little different functionality
[22:28] <coalwater> try both
[22:29] <coalwater> more can't go back up i suppose
[22:29] <elks294> now its saying log file:
[22:29] <coalwater> what did u type?
[22:30] <elks294> lshw | less
[22:31] <elks294> ''lshw | less''
[22:31] <coalwater> lshw is just a command that has a huge output, just like netstat, the output it self isn't important, it's just the way u scroll
[22:31] <elks294> oh
[22:31] <coalwater> u can use it with netstat
[22:31] <elks294> how do i get back to terminal its sitting at END
[22:31] <coalwater> netstat | less
[22:31] <elks294> and the says log file:
[22:31] <coalwater> press Q
[22:32] <coalwater> letter q
[22:32] <elks294> that works
[22:32] <elks294> thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:33] <coalwater> any time :P
[22:33] <coalwater> u should try the output file once when ur done too
[22:34] <coalwater> netstat > out.txt or something, then u'll find that file created, u can open it with gedit or any program
[22:35] <elks294> cool
[22:35] <elks294> found what i needed
[22:40] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[22:40] <kristian-aalborg> my usb pen is acting up
[22:40] <kristian-aalborg> this is a "netinstall" ubuntu for which I added a desktop etc
[22:41] <kristian-aalborg> I'm wondering if I miss some lib or other? first the thing automounted at /mnt/disk - second time around it won't mount
[22:41] <kristian-aalborg> (automatically)
[22:42] <kristian-aalborg> also, holstein - yo!
[22:44] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: wow
[22:44] <holstein> good timing
[22:44] <holstein> whats up?
[22:44] <kristian-aalborg> not much apart from me saying "yo" and cursing about that USB pen
[22:45] <holstein> hehe
[22:45] <holstein> yeah, who knows
[22:45] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: its showing up though right?
[22:45] <holstein> just not mounting?
[22:45] <holstein> see if it shows up in sudo fdisk -l
[22:45] <kristian-aalborg> it does
[22:46] <kristian-aalborg> /dev/sdb1               1         985     7911981    7  HPFS/NTFS
[22:46] <holstein> and you can manually mount it?
[22:48] <kristian-aalborg> aha!
[22:48] <kristian-aalborg> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Input/output error
[22:48] <kristian-aalborg> I also got out of nowhere the last time I tried
[22:49] <holstein> yeah, who knows.. those things go bad
[22:49] <kristian-aalborg> this is quite new - 8 gb thingy
[22:49] <holstein> unfortunately, those things come bad sometimes
[22:50] <holstein> ive had more than 5 new ones bad out of the box
[22:50] <holstein> anyways... i would just reformat it
[22:50] <holstein> see how it acts on a nother machine too
[22:52] <kristian-aalborg> damn it... this time I go with ext2
[22:52] <kristian-aalborg> this dude I'm giving some stuff can get serious about file system, I shall not pander to his primitive system!
[22:54] <kristian-aalborg> sorry if this is a bit o/t - but anyone know how I can check the status of a dropbox upload?
[22:57] <holstein> i just look at the applet in the tray
[22:57] <holstein> if it looks susupicious, i kill it, and re-start dropbox
[23:01] <charlie-tca> I look at the website interface to see if it made it, when I need to verify one.
[23:03] <holstein> charlie-tca: good call
[23:03] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: ^^
[23:04] <holder> How can I test if my ISP is throttling my bittorrenting?
[23:04] <kristian-aalborg> yeah, I don't have much success with the nautilus implementation.... I'll use the browser interface, I guess
[23:08] <holstein> holder: id probably call them up and ask
[23:28] <kristian-aalborg> http://www.ext2fsd.com/ <--- anyone tried this (on Win)? Looks pretty solid...