| kaushal | Hi | 00:37 |
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| kaushal | Any idea about the comment #5 in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/784604 when is it going to be available in the repos ? | 00:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 784604 in sun-java6 (Ubuntu) "a new java version is available for download (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:38 |
| kaushal | Can someone please comment about what does confirmed mean | 00:43 |
| kaushal | does it mean its acknowledged by dev team | 00:43 |
| kaushal | Checking in again for the query | 01:10 |
| greg-g | kaushal: confirmed usually means that at least one other person is experiencing the issue | 01:19 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:22 |
| kaushal | greg-g: when is it going to be available ? | 01:22 |
| hggdh | kaushal, unknown ATM. | 01:33 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:36 |
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| benonsoftware | Do you know why in Launchpad when I try to Triage a bug it's disabled? | 10:34 |
| autra | You're part of bugsquad only ? | 10:36 |
| autra | (too late :-( )) | 10:37 |
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| brendand | lp issues on a bug day. crikes | 11:36 |
| evfool | yep brendand, lp keeps timeouting here too | 11:59 |
| === pedro_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-bugs to: Today is a Bug Day! : http://is.gd/SGIi1a | Ubuntu Bug Squad - next meeting 6/9/11 | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Want to report a bug? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | User support (not related to triage) is in #ubuntu | ||
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| brendand | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/793291 should be Low Importance, as it's pretty much a corner case | 14:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 793291 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "DoS window manager with extremely long error (affects: 1) (heat: 1134)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:38 |
| RedSingularity | brendand: done | 14:42 |
| brendand | RedSingularity - thx | 14:42 |
| RedSingularity | brendand: no prob :) | 14:42 |
| pedro_ | brendand, is that a window manager crash or a nautilus crash? | 14:47 |
| pedro_ | can't reproduce it here btw | 14:48 |
| brendand | pedro_ - well no, the whole window manager doesn't crash. | 14:48 |
| brendand | pedro - if you run that code no window appears | 14:48 |
| brendand | pedro_ - but if you run it with a shorter name then one does | 14:48 |
| brendand | pedro_ - sometimes you see the window flicker and appear briefly before disappearing | 14:49 |
| hggdh | why is it a DoS? | 14:50 |
| pedro_ | the title is really confusing.. | 14:51 |
| pedro_ | anyways that's something to send upstream, they might have a better idea on what's going on there | 14:54 |
| hggdh | brendand, one exercise left is to find out up the minimum size ;-) | 14:54 |
| pedro_ | as brendand said is really a corner case | 14:54 |
| brendand | pedro_ - do you know anywhere i could look to see if the window manager/nautilus actually crashed? | 14:55 |
| roadmr | brendand: maybe .xsession-errors | 14:55 |
| pedro_ | brendand, ~/.xsession-errors | 14:55 |
| pedro_ | heh | 14:55 |
| pedro_ | roadmr, was faster, hello btw! | 14:55 |
| roadmr | hello! | 14:56 |
| brendand | pedro_ - astonishingly, this could be a bit more severe than i thought | 14:58 |
| brendand | pedro_ - once i run 'nautilus `python -c "print 'A' * 1000"`' in a terminal, compiz starts going a bit nuts | 14:58 |
| brendand | pedro_ - corrupts launcher and dash in the area where the window would have gone | 14:59 |
| pedro_ | ah maybe because the window is gigantic | 14:59 |
| brendand | pedro_ - so might be a compiz thing, just a really big window is a good way to make it happen | 14:59 |
| RedSingularity | hggdh: meeting at 1900 UTC correct? | 14:59 |
| pedro_ | brendand, i'm trying with metacity , wait a sec | 15:00 |
| pedro_ | brendand, yeah looks like a window manager issue, its crashing metacity | 15:01 |
| pedro_ | i'm getting a nice BadAlloc | 15:01 |
| * brendand wishes people would file bugs where you don't have to do 30 mins of your own investigation to figure out what they meant | 15:08 | |
| pedro_ | is changing (add/remove) tags working for anybody? | 15:08 |
| pedro_ | in lp of course :-P | 15:08 |
| pedro_ | here is just showing me the loading icon and then nothing is changed | 15:09 |
| brendand | pedro_ - i still reckon it's low importance. quite the corner case. i think 1000 chars does it at the moment | 15:09 |
| pedro_ | brendand, yup indeed | 15:09 |
| CarlFK | is there a cli to extract the stuff between ---[ cut here ]- and ---[ end trace ? | 15:10 |
| hggdh | RedSingularity, correct | 15:15 |
| pedro_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting | 15:19 |
| pedro_ | it says 1700 UTC hggdh RedSingularity | 15:19 |
| hggdh | pedro_, argh! Foiled again by the Google Calendar :-( thanks | 15:20 |
| jibel | CarlFK, perl is your friend, something like: perl -ne "print if /^---\[cut here/ ... /^---\[end/" path/to/your/trace.file | 15:20 |
| jibel | CarlFK, modify the regex as needed of course | 15:21 |
| CarlFK | jibel: yeah, just thinking if there was a util it would have other fancy features too | 15:22 |
| jibel | CarlFK, perl has many other fancy features ;-) | 15:22 |
| roadmr | perl is so fancy | 15:22 |
| CarlFK | swell | 15:22 |
| brendand | pedro_ - the bug is in the window manager not nautilus, but seems to happen in both window managers (metacity and compiz). should i move the original to compiz and raise a new one in metacity, or 'also affect' metacity? | 15:26 |
| pedro_ | brendand, that sounds good, yes please | 15:26 |
| pedro_ | brendand, thanks for looking at the issue! | 15:27 |
| CarlFK | [ 0.000000] Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address 0! | 15:27 |
| CarlFK | how do I dump the bios so I can compare it to a 2nd box that doesn't error? | 15:28 |
| hggdh | CarlFK, when looking for an utility, it _may_ help running 'apropos' | 15:30 |
| hggdh | CarlFK, for example, 'apropos bios' | 15:31 |
| CarlFK | ohh cool | 15:31 |
| hggdh | CarlFK, from the output I see 'biosdecode (8) - BIOS information decoder' <- this may, or may not, help | 15:31 |
| hggdh | CarlFK, a caveat... it all depends on the search argument (and if there actually is anything that deals with it) | 15:33 |
| hggdh | CarlFK, but... this sounds like a bad BIOS. This may, or may not, work: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=245794 | 15:39 |
| CarlFK | enable virtualization - good chance that's the diff between the 2 boxes | 15:41 |
| CarlFK | thanks | 15:41 |
| CarlFK | these boxes have really annoying bios setup, so I didn't want to have to try and walk though each screen looking for the diff | 15:42 |
| brendand | pedro_ - in metacity do you see any 'blurring' in the area where the window should have been? | 15:45 |
| brendand | pedro_ - that's what i get in compiz | 15:45 |
| CarlFK | hggdh: yep. virt was different. synced them, now both crash :) | 15:47 |
| pedro_ | brendand, nope i don't see that, that's probably due to the compositor | 15:50 |
| pedro_ | brendand, i just see a 'huge' window | 15:51 |
| hggdh | CarlFK, heh | 15:51 |
| brendand | pedro_ - i thought metacity crashed? | 15:51 |
| pedro_ | brendand, yup i'll open the bug about it in a few since it's a memory crash need to get a valgrind log | 15:52 |
| RedSingularity | hggdh, me too. I have 1900 written here. | 16:05 |
| hggdh | RedSingularity, you may need to update the entry, we did change from 1900 (every other week) to 1700 every week | 16:06 |
| hggdh | RedSingularity, what foiled me is Google calendar never showing UTC | 16:06 |
| RedSingularity | hggdh: yeah. Looks like someone updated the page already. good. | 16:07 |
| brendand | compiz bug tracker has only 38 bugs? something fishy about that to me... | 16:09 |
| charlie-tca | huh? we changed the bugsquad meeting to weekly? | 16:23 |
| charlie-tca | hggdh: go to calendar settings, add a time zone, utc, and click on show all timezones | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | It will then show both UTC and normal timezones side-by-side | 16:25 |
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| hggdh | charlie-tca, still... I cannot see the additional TZ :-( | 16:36 |
| charlie-tca | hggdh: probably told you wrong again. take a look here and find this - http://imagebin.org/157528 | 16:40 |
| loganaden | hi | 16:53 |
| braiam | Hi loganaden | 17:02 |
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| loganaden | braiam hi | 17:06 |
| hggdh | charlie-tca, you told me right, it is Google vs. Me ;-) | 17:08 |
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| pedro_ | BugSquad Meeting in ~10 minutes at #ubuntu-meeting | 17:50 |
| pedro_ | not here at #ubuntu-meeting don't forget about that | 17:50 |
| pedro_ | BugSquad Meeting in ~5 minutes at #ubuntu-meeting | 17:55 |
| pedro_ | BugSquad Meeting now at #ubuntu-meeting | 17:59 |
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| drowned1723 | hi everyone, got a question about filing a bug-report and wheter my problem is even a bug | 20:21 |
| drowned1723 | ma ubuntu 11.04 is not booting after installing the latest updates (which included newer versions of xserver, gdm and plymouth) | 20:22 |
| drowned1723 | can i revert these packages to the old ones and should i report a bug? | 20:23 |
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| brendand | drowned1723 - if the updates weren't from -proposed then you should report a bug | 20:39 |
| hggdh | drowned1723, ideally you should report a bug first -- even on a -proposed kernel (may be a regression) | 20:40 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - what hggdh says is true actually | 20:40 |
| drowned1723 | happened on a clean install of ubuntu 11.04, just 1 day old. | 20:41 |
| drowned1723 | i will report a bug against plymouth | 20:41 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - why plymouth? | 20:41 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - plymouth is just a splash screen | 20:41 |
| drowned1723 | i would say it's a graphics problem, as the kernel wasnt updated | 20:42 |
| hggdh | drowned1723, if you can add (screenshots are OK) the boot messages it may help | 20:43 |
| drowned1723 | no boot messages, as the screen goes blank immediatly after grub beeps | 20:43 |
| brendand | 1. Hold Shift during Grub boot delay to access the boot menu. | 20:44 |
| brendand | 2. Select your actual Ubuntu boot line and press "e" to edit it. | 20:44 |
| brendand | 3. Select the "linux" line and at the end of the line, remove "splash" and "quiet". | 20:44 |
| brendand | 5. Press "F10" to boot the custom boot line. | 20:44 |
| hggdh | try a recovery startup, or edit the kernel options to take out the graphical options | 20:45 |
| brendand | as above | 20:45 |
| hggdh | heh. brendand was faster ;-) | 20:45 |
| drowned1723 | i updated grub via livecd to not include the quiet splash. still the same | 20:45 |
| brendand | hggdh - with instructions and all ;) | 20:45 |
| hggdh | :-) | 20:45 |
| drowned1723 | and grub won't show the menu when hitteing shifgt | 20:45 |
| hggdh | drowned1723, even on a recovery boot? | 20:46 |
| drowned1723 | how do i get into recovery boot? via grub menu? | 20:46 |
| hggdh | oh. You do not see the grub menu... | 20:46 |
| drowned1723 | yep | 20:46 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: you need to use the left shift key, just keep it pressed while booting the computer, grub menu *should* come up | 20:47 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: also you mentioned grub beeps, that's when you need to hit shift (if grub beeps, it means you enabled the GRUB_INIT_TUNE | 20:47 |
| drowned1723 | i kept hitting it, not keeping it pressed. i should try that. | 20:48 |
| drowned1723 | it wont even show the blinking cursor thats normally displayed beore the splash screen | 20:48 |
| drowned1723 | reinstalling grub from live cd didn't help either | 20:49 |
| roadmr | it's really strange that grub died altogether :-/ | 20:49 |
| hggdh | another option is to boot from a liveCD (or the alternate ISO), and select to mount your root disk | 20:50 |
| drowned1723 | i mounted my root partition, chroot into it, edited /etc/default/grub to not include quiet splash and did grub-update | 20:51 |
| drowned1723 | that's also where i enabled GRUB_INIT_TUNE | 20:51 |
| hggdh | you can also change GRUB_TIMEOUT="-1" | 20:52 |
| hggdh | this will cause grub to wait until you select an entry | 20:52 |
| roadmr | um, well if grub is picking up changes, it means it's not entirely dead :) | 20:53 |
| hggdh | for reference, this is my grub setup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/622821/ | 20:54 |
| hggdh | time to restart after upgrades BRB | 20:56 |
| drowned1723 | i changed GRUB_TIMEOUT="-1" and will try reboot..brb | 21:00 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - if plymouth is off (quiet splash removed) then the bug can't be in plymouth | 21:01 |
| drowned1723 | we will see, after the restart ;) | 21:01 |
| drowned1723 | by | 21:01 |
| brendand | roadmr - i don't understand his problem :/ | 21:02 |
| roadmr | brendand: I have no idea either, he said after updating, I've done that and I'm still running | 21:03 |
| brendand | roadmr - hardware specific? | 21:03 |
| roadmr | brendand: maybe, if he upgraded the kernel, but there are usually no nasty regressions like that on minor updates | 21:04 |
| roadmr | his drivers might not have migrated to the new kernel but then again, he'd get at least a splash or some text before crashing | 21:04 |
| brendand | roadmr - kernel hasn't changed for natty | 21:05 |
| brendand | roadmr - since release - has it? | 21:05 |
| brendand | roadmr - i don't recall any SRU's going past | 21:05 |
| roadmr | brendand: you're right, it's still -8 | 21:05 |
| roadmr | brendand: however, -10 is already in -proposed | 21:05 |
| brendand | roadmr - that's not going anywhere because of a regression. | 21:06 |
| brendand | afaik | 21:06 |
| hggdh | there was, IIRC, a nasty regression on current natty -proposed | 21:06 |
| roadmr | brendand: wohoo, well I know of at least one bug reporter that was using -10 | 21:07 |
| brendand | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/792013 | 21:07 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 792013 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 9 other projects) "linux: 2.6.38-10.44 -proposed tracker (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Medium,In progress] | 21:07 |
| drowned1723 | i'm back. was able to boot into recovery mode using low graphics. | 21:07 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: hey, great to see you made it! | 21:07 |
| drowned1723 | thx. | 21:08 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - what gfx card to you have and what kernel version are you on? (uname -a) | 21:08 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - and welcome back :) | 21:08 |
| drowned1723 | 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP | 21:08 |
| drowned1723 | gfx is a radeon 6800 i think. | 21:08 |
| hggdh | the best (guaranteed) way of finding the kernel build is via /proc/version_signature | 21:08 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - that hasn't changed then since release | 21:09 |
| drowned1723 | ages old, still using AGP | 21:09 |
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| brendand | brb | 21:10 |
| drowned1723 | i haven't used proprietary drivers, but the default one | 21:10 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - 'radeon'? | 21:10 |
| drowned1723 | i guess? where can i check that? | 21:10 |
| brendand | lspci -vvnn | 21:11 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - have to find the card in there and look at the kernel driver in use field | 21:12 |
| drowned1723 | Kernel driver in use: radeon | 21:12 |
| brendand | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM#;/?????????????????????????????????????[ | 21:14 |
| drowned1723 | i'm confused | 21:14 |
| roadmr | whoa | 21:15 |
| brendand | my daughter - lol :) | 21:16 |
| brendand | note to self - keep computer out of reach | 21:16 |
| drowned1723 | ^^ | 21:16 |
| drowned1723 | so, how do i proceed, to find the screwup in my system? | 21:18 |
| brendand | drowned1723 - you really don't see any messages when booting? | 21:24 |
| drowned1723 | no messages. immediately showing a black screen. | 21:26 |
| drowned1723 | i havent tried starting it from the grub menu yet. but there is no quiet splash in the bootoptions, just the way i have configured grub | 21:27 |
| drowned1723 | i'll try booting the normal option from the grub menu, see if there are any messages. brb | 21:28 |
| drowned1723 | now i'm completely confused. the normal boot option booted whitout splash right into gnome 2, as it's supposed to. only it's very low resolution like in recovery mode | 21:35 |
| drowned1723 | and system->pref->monitors won't detect my monitor, which worked perfectly fine before the updates | 21:36 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: does everything else work fine? could you check the video driver you're using, as you did earlier? could you run xrandr -q and see which resolutions are listed, and which one you're currently using? | 21:39 |
| drowned1723 | max resolution listed is 1024x768, but it should be full HD | 21:42 |
| drowned1723 | kernel driver in use: radeon | 21:44 |
| drowned1723 | everything seems to work fine, sound, video (flash) etc. | 21:48 |
| drowned1723 | seems to me, that EDID is not read succesfully | 21:49 |
| roadmr | and this worked well prior to the upgrade, right? for instance, do you see the full list of resolutions if you boot with a livecd? | 21:51 |
| drowned1723 | yep | 21:51 |
| roadmr | hehe sorry for asking two questions :) I guess the more interesting one is the second: a livecd shows you the full list of resolutions, correct? | 21:52 |
| drowned1723 | yes it does. and it correctly sets the resolution to 1080p | 21:52 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: ok, so I think you might be on the right track with the EDID thing | 21:52 |
| drowned1723 | edid is handled by which package? xorg? | 21:53 |
| hggdh | <sigh/> latest Oneiric updates seem to have broken gdm/wireless | 21:53 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: I think so. Maybe comparing the /var/log/Xorg.0.log files could yield a clue; the one from your broken installation, and the one from the LiveCD | 21:53 |
| roadmr | hggdh: heh on Oneiric I don't even get a panel and/or Unity, I have to launch a terminal and work from there | 21:54 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: You could file a bug on xorg, if you decide to do so, I think the copy of the LiveCD Xorg.0.log would be useful, to be attached to the bug in addition to what apport does | 21:56 |
| drowned1723 | guess i have to restart into the livecd and copy the xorg.0.log. anything else i should look for/copy while i'm at it? | 21:56 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: I don't think so, I think filing a bug is the way to go, apport will attach package version information and relevant log files, just add the LiveCD one afterwards | 21:57 |
| drowned1723 | ok, will do that. | 21:57 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: that way all the relevant info is in one place and we're not exchanging information piecemeal like we've been doing | 21:57 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: thanks :) | 21:57 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: here's some info on what the X team likes to see in their bug reports: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Reporting | 21:58 |
| drowned1723 | btw: if i force the older version of xorg to be installed via synaptics, are there going to be severe consequences for my system? | 21:58 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: as long as all the other dependencies get correctly downgraded, I don't think so, but I can't offer any guarantees :P | 21:59 |
| roadmr | drowned1723: you could also ask in #ubuntu-support about the downgrading thing, someone in there might have some experience with that | 22:00 |
| drowned1723 | thanks. i will file the bug report, attach the live-cd-xorg-log and then try to downgrade. | 22:01 |
| drowned1723 | thank you all for your help, very much appreciated =) | 22:01 |
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