[00:04] <mhall119> paultag: my only concern is that you may be too awesome for facebook
[00:05] <mhall119> I mean, I bet your nook rooting project doesn't broadcast anybody's private information
[02:53] <mhall119> hmmm, makershed.com might be dangerous
[03:00] <paultag> mhall119: thanks :P
[03:01] <paultag> mhall119: interview went well, my recriter just called me and said that the responses were positive, and that they wanted another phone interview
[03:01] <paultag> not sure if that's good or not, I mean, on-site is supposed to be sorta a final thing
[03:01] <paultag> I'm wondering if I did not get some points off and they want to make sure I'm unfit
[03:21] <paultag> Fsck it. What happens happens.
[03:43] <cjohnston> jono: jcastro http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-community.html
[03:45] <mhall119> paultag: could be that you passed the technical, and now they want to ask you some "work culture" questions
[03:47] <paultag> mhall119: I really hope so, I'm so burned out on interview questions, I Just want to build something, damnit
[03:48] <mhall119> they didn't ask you the stupid "how would you calculate the number of gas stations in the city" did they?
[03:48] <paultag> mhall119: what *kills* me is that 5 minutes before that call I would have been real cocky about how well I did. Now, I'm shaken up and I don't know
[03:48] <paultag> mhall119: dude, so fucking many. Also these little pedantic fun questions
[03:48] <mhall119> I hate those
[03:49] <paultag> there was this one that was nasty
[03:49] <paultag> took me a few minutes
[03:49] <mhall119> that and the "do you know this obscure fact about some language on a certain hardware arch"
[03:49] <paultag> mhall119: aye. I much more dread the CS trick questions since that's what I do
[03:49] <paultag> and I'd much rather fail at something I'm not good at
[03:50] <mhall119> I like to ask them to put the question in the form of an actual scenario
[03:51] <paultag> mhall119: truth
[03:51] <mhall119> what was the nasty one?
[03:51] <mhall119> or are you under an NDA on these
[03:52] <paultag> mhall119: I'm under an NDA for some of it. Hold on, let me see the paperwork
[03:52] <paultag> mhall119: no, we're clean. This is a common question and therefore not subject to the NDA, since it's "in the wild" through no fault of myself
[03:52] <mhall119> was it "How would you go about collecting and broadcasting people's most private details while making them keep coming back to your service like addicts looking for a fix?"
[03:53] <mhall119> or was that one under the NDA?
[03:53] <mhall119> probably under the NSA
[03:53] <mhall119> NDA
[03:53] <paultag> I can not confirm nor deny
[03:54] <paultag> mhall119: http://me.pault.ag/dft-nl
[03:55] <paultag> mhall119: given the data structure on the top, write a non-recursive function to print that result, without adding any data to the nodes, and in O(n) time
[03:55] <mhall119> aw, cs stuff
[03:55] <paultag> mhall119: well yeah :)
[03:56] <paultag> mhall119: give it a hack, it's not too too bad
[03:56] <paultag> I got the first part (printing them out in order) in about 3 minutes, getting the newlines caused me trouble
[03:56] <paultag> I don't think I can give my solution, and I can not confirm that was the actual question they asked me
[03:57] <paultag> but if it's not, it's similar, I'd guess
[03:59] <mhall119> can you put this in the form of an actual scenario? ;)
[03:59] <paultag> mhall119: nope :)
[03:59] <paultag> mhall119: I'm going to rm that file, just in case
[03:59] <mhall119> then it's not really a problem is it? next
[04:00] <paultag> mhall119: it's a puzzle, and pullzes > problems
[04:00] <paultag> puzzles *
[04:00] <mhall119> are they going to pay you to play with puzzles?
[04:00] <paultag> mhall119: yeah
[04:00] <mhall119> (would love to answer interview questions like this)
[04:00] <paultag> mhall119: they do, actually :)
[04:00] <paultag> if we can figure out a puzzle, we've optimized something
[04:01] <paultag> and optimization is key
[04:01] <paultag> that's why O(n) is important, and not O(n!)
[04:03] <paultag> I need a massage
[04:04] <mhall119> I need a cs class, apparently
[04:05] <mhall119> or fewer, perhaps, as I can't stop thinking of recursion
[04:05] <paultag> mhall119: facebook and google are very CS heavy, which is good, but at the same time, it's not average
[04:05] <paultag> don't worry, most languages have this built in
[04:06] <paultag> .sort() does not need to have you go through it with big-O notation
[04:06] <mhall119> true
[04:07] <paultag> I'm going to go back to moping around, I'm really bummed. I wonder why he said it was positive, seems like that can't be true
[04:08]  * mhall119 sends happy thoughts and optimism your way
[04:08] <paultag> mhall119: thanks man :)
[04:08] <paultag> I hope they call some of my 'refs for some love
[04:10] <mhall119> paultag: did the algorithm have to work for any binary tree?
[04:10] <mhall119> or just this one?
[04:11] <mhall119> wait, is 5 a child of both 2 and 3?
[04:11] <paultag> mhall119: no, just 2 -- and any binary tree
[04:11] <mhall119> ok, so 3 has only one child
[04:11] <paultag> unknown number of child nodes per depth
[04:11] <paultag> mhall119: right
[04:13] <mhall119> yeah, I'm throwing in the towel on that
[04:13] <mhall119> otherwise I'll be up all night
[04:13]  * mhall119 might anyway now :(
[04:13] <paultag> mhall119: solve this and I'll buy you a beer when we meet up
[04:14] <paultag> it's actually fun
[04:15] <paultag> the first part is fairly easy (and you can google for it, but that's cheating)
[04:15] <paultag> the second bit is a bit tougher, but still fun
[04:41] <paultag> mhall119: fiture it out yet?
[04:41] <paultag> sed s/fiture/figure/g
[04:52] <mhall119> paultag: no, I'm distracting my brain
[05:01] <paultag> mhall119: :)
[05:20] <nigelb> paultag: !
[05:20] <nigelb> paultag: How'd it go?
[05:40] <nigelb> jono: you should see google doodle today ;)
[07:01] <AlanBell> cool
[07:01] <AlanBell> what does the red button do?
[07:03] <Rhonda> where do you see a red button?
[07:05] <AlanBell> google.com
[07:05] <AlanBell> ah, it lets you play it with the keyboard
[07:06] <jono> nigelb, nice!
[07:07] <jono> night all!
[07:07]  * jono is tired
[07:07] <Rhonda> AlanBell: I don't see any red button, just some strings on a guitar.
[07:09] <AlanBell> grey keyboard button that goes red when you click it
[07:33] <dpm> morning all
[07:37] <nigelb> Morning dpm.
[07:37] <nigelb> Hello AlanBell and Rhonda :)
[07:40] <dpm> hey nigelb :)
[07:53] <duanedesign> ;lo a;;
[07:53] <duanedesign>  ugh
[07:53] <duanedesign> still see i am sloelelihjly wingling in back in ti the fold
[07:54] <nigelb> I'm not quite sure what the 5th word there is :p
[07:54] <duanedesign> i need a light ed keyboard or better tyoing skills
[07:55] <duanedesign> the sentence was ro read,  I am slowly getting recclimated
[07:56] <duanedesign> today is typo day for duane
[07:58] <duanedesign> i have been so distracted lately trying to get a 'dream job'
[07:58] <duanedesign> thr process has raken almost 4 weeks...
[07:59] <nigelb> duanedesign: did you get the job? :)
[08:00] <duanedesign> scratch that it has been 6 weekss, I have twi more weeks to find out
[08:00] <nigelb> :)
[08:00] <nigelb> dream jobs++
[08:01] <duanedesign> it has been two weeks since my interview snd i want to craft an email letting then knowi am still very interested
[08:01] <duanedesign> but yet not come off 'pushy'
[08:02] <duanedesign> but i want to be seen as someone who goes after things they want
[08:03] <duanedesign> nigelb: pm?
[08:03] <nigelb> duanedesign: yup
[08:03] <duanedesign> 35
[08:05] <jussi> has anyone seen doctormo recently ?
[08:23] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <nigelb> Good morning dholbach
[08:23] <nigelb> duanedesign: see PM :)
[08:24] <dholbach> h inig
[08:24] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:24] <dholbach> oops :)
[08:25] <nigelb> dholbach: Need more coffee? ;)
[08:25] <dholbach> yes :)
[08:26] <jussi> seems its typpo day in here.
[08:26] <jussi> :P
[08:26] <nigelb> jussi: I see the irony in that sentence :)
[08:27] <jussi> yup :P
[08:27] <jussi> (it was deliberate) :D
[08:28] <nigelb> yeah right ;)
[09:06] <kim0> Morning everyone
[09:11] <nigelb> Morning kim0
[09:14] <kim0> nigelb: hey man
[10:33] <blackmoon-105> hi, this is the right place for ask about ubuntu wiki (community documentation)?
[10:33] <blackmoon-105> i need to remove an attachment from a page
[11:10] <AlanBell> blackmoon-105_: not really, but what page?
[11:12] <blackmoon-105_> AlanBell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_N53?action=AttachFile    attachment:20_custom-ehci-hcd
[12:41] <AlanBell> you can upload a new version here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_N53?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=20_custom-ehci-hcd but it would take someone who can delete pages to delete it
[12:41] <AlanBell> try in #ubuntu-doc for someone who can do that
[12:48] <blackmoon-105> AlanBell: overwrite is not allowed :-( I've aleady asked in #ubuntu-doc with no answer
[12:50] <cjohnston> AlanBell: id assume that those are checked in through bzr since its on help.u.c
[12:50] <cjohnston> no?
[12:51] <AlanBell> not sure
[12:56] <popey> no
[12:56] <popey>  /community/ is a wiki
[12:57] <popey>  / is not.
[12:57] <popey> drop matthew east a mail. he has access
[12:57]  * czajkowski hugs popey 
[12:57] <popey> btw whats the issue?
[12:57] <popey> I arrived to this late
[13:00] <mhall119> somebody drove their car into help.ubuntu.com on their way to work, any idea who that could be?
[13:01] <popey> ☺
[13:01] <mhall119> they took out a mailing list too
[13:01] <czajkowski> mhall119: your a bad bad egg
[13:02]  * czajkowski sends mhall119 to the naughty step 
[13:02] <blackmoon-105> popey: i must remove an attachment in the community wiki, but i  can't
[13:02] <mhall119> that sounds like a fun place to be, actually ;)
[13:02] <popey> why do you need to remove it blackmoon-105 ?
[13:02] <blackmoon-105> besause it's a duplicate file with another name
[13:02] <popey> oh. not a massive problem then ☺
[13:03] <popey> just drop mdke at ubuntu.com a mail and ask for deletion and tell him why
[13:04] <blackmoon-105> popey: ok, thank you :-)
[13:04] <popey> np
[15:26] <dpm> ok everyone, calling it a day a bit earlier today
[15:26] <dpm> have a nice rest of the day and I'll see you tomorrow!
[15:31] <jono> kim0, all set?
[15:31] <kim0> jono: yep
[15:31] <jono> kim0, ok, one sec
[16:40] <jcastro> <-- early lunch
[17:41] <IdleOne> jono: Where can I follow your Burnout session later on, lernid is not working for me in 11.10?
[17:42] <jono> IdleOne, it should work
[17:43] <jono> IdleOne, #ubuntu-classroom also
[17:43] <jono> but I will be displaying slides
[17:43] <jono> brb
[17:43] <IdleOne> jono: yeah that is why I installed from PPA and tried running but no go. Get a bunch of errors - bug reported -
[18:14] <nigelb> dholbach: is your blog ipv6 only currently?
[18:14] <dholbach> nigelb, no?
[18:14] <nigelb> dholbach: hrm, it just fails for me. Works on my VPS though.
[18:15] <dholbach> is anybody else having similar problems?
[18:16]  * nigelb traceroutes
[18:17] <dholbach> how far do you get?
[18:17] <koolhead17> hi all
[18:17] <koolhead17> hi kim0  jono
[18:17] <pleia2> looks fine to me
[18:18] <nigelb> dholbach: I get as far as "so-1-3-0.0.pjr01.ldn001.flagtel.com (85.95.25.114)" and then * * * :(
[18:18] <dholbach> hum, that's clearly not part of my route
[18:19] <nigelb> yup, something wrong with my provider.
[18:19] <nigelb> oh well, socks-proxing through VPS++ :)
[18:19] <dholbach> daniel@miyazaki:~$ mtr so-1-3-0.0.pjr01.ldn001.flagtel.com
[18:19] <dholbach> Failed to resolve host: Name or service not known
[18:19] <dholbach> daniel@miyazaki:~$
[18:19] <dholbach> I can traceroute pjr01.ldn001.flagtel.com though
[18:20] <nigelb> I'm going to just blame my ISP for this. doctormo's blog doesn't work for me either :/
[18:20] <dholbach> ok, good
[18:21] <dholbach> alright, and with that I'm going to call it a day
[18:21] <dholbach> big hugs to all of you and see you tomorrow
[18:22] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach :)
[21:15] <nigelb> jcastro: ping
[21:16] <jcastro> yo
[21:16] <nigelb> jcastro: AlanBell and I have been tossing up ideas for Ada Lovelace day competition for Ubuntu Women Project.  One of the ideas was a competition for writing unity lenses.  Thoughts? :)
[21:21] <jcastro> I don't know what changes are coming for lenses in 11.10
[21:21] <jcastro> so I would lean towards something else as a competition
[21:26] <nigelb> jcastro: okay, glad I asked you in that case.
[21:26] <nigelb> AlanBell: ^^
[21:26] <AlanBell> ooh
[21:27] <nigelb> jcastro: Thanks!
[21:27] <jcastro> no worries
[22:07] <jcastro> <-- outta here, tty tomorrow!
[22:09] <jcastro> heya cjohnston
[22:09] <jcastro> who else worked on status.ubuntu.com? Or was it all you?
[22:16] <AlanBell> there is quite a lot of awesome in that status.ubuntu.com
[22:16] <jcastro> yeah
[22:16] <jcastro> it's pretty great
[22:18] <AlanBell> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/u/sabdfl.html needs to be assigned more work items at uds-p
[22:21] <davidcalle> Seeing such a detailed About page on this kind of site is awesome.
[22:21] <jcastro> I got kind of doomed
[22:21] <jcastro> my line reset
[22:21] <jcastro> I was nice and under my line, now I am right on the line
[22:22] <jcastro> jono: ^^^ please don't fire me, I blame cjohnston
[23:07] <cjohnston> jcastro: Initial script is pitti's.. With mods by James W.