| jrwren | request for Lococast 18... retract your VB6 open sourced announcement. it was a scam. its not being open sourced. | 02:47 |
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| snap-l | jrwren: Thank God. | 02:54 |
| greg-g | g'morn | 12:01 |
| brousch | ayup | 12:30 |
| rick_h_ | oh wtf, Columbus has its own vim group now?! http://www.meetup.com/Vim-Columbus/events/20827741/?a=socialmedia | 12:48 |
| brousch | jealous? | 12:49 |
| rick_h_ | damn ohio | 12:49 |
| rick_h_ | yea, they've got multiple python groups, a freaking vim group, pyohio, olf | 12:50 |
| brousch | all we have i penguicon | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | and sorry, but that's not even the same | 12:51 |
| brousch | i know | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | that's like "We've got the auto show" | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | except "We've got the crazy people show" | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 12:51 |
| brousch | I have been toying with organizing an open source conference here. i just don't think many people would come | 12:53 |
| brousch | besides, we have barcampgr | 12:53 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 12:53 |
| rick_h_ | all things start small though | 12:53 |
| rick_h_ | first pyohio was somehting like 30 people or whatever | 12:54 |
| rick_h_ | I mean we all fit in one big room | 12:54 |
| Lledargo | rick_h_: I thought the 'crazy people show' was just regaurded as normal life? | 12:54 |
| brousch | i'd like to see more of that stuff from the east side | 12:54 |
| brousch | you supposedly have all of the people | 12:54 |
| brousch | how big is mug? | 12:54 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but people here are anti social | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | on a great day 30 people | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | these days, with new location, etc, a bit smaller | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | but mug isn't made of conf material | 12:55 |
| brousch | ug, grlug can bring in that many | 12:55 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:56 |
| brousch | yes | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | meh, I'll be quiet. Just floored me they were getting a freaking vim group | 12:56 |
| brousch | groups are easy to start ;) | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | I'm not going to start organizing anything anytime soon so if you're not helping, stop complaining | 12:56 |
| brousch | i declare vimgr! | 12:57 |
| rick_h_ | heh, we had a 3 person CHC last night. Smallest I remember since thanksgiving | 12:57 |
| brousch | i could have 4 people at the first meeting ;) | 12:57 |
| brousch | i declared a chc-like weekly meeting yesterday. first one is next wednesday | 12:58 |
| brousch | 8-10pm | 12:58 |
| rick_h_ | awesome, should get it up on the web site as a location | 12:58 |
| brousch | well it's really a relocation and time change of grlug saturday social | 12:59 |
| rick_h_ | gotcha | 12:59 |
| brousch | i can't even call it an ubuntu hour yet | 12:59 |
| brousch | we need a midwinter linux fest in lansing or ann arbor | 13:01 |
| brousch | does ann arbor have a linux group? | 13:01 |
| rick_h_ | too mac happy :P | 13:02 |
| brousch | that is becoming a problem | 13:03 |
| greg-g | brousch: we have WLUG, washtenaw county lug | 13:09 |
| brousch | ah | 13:10 |
| Wolfger | Ah... we can all bask in the warm spotlight of the Linux Journal.... http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-bug-reporting-again | 13:58 |
| Wolfger | I think we should rewrite a maxim: "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are ignored for 6 months until somebody asks if it can be reproduced in the current version and/or latest alpha/beta release". | 14:01 |
| Wolfger | OK, I could waste way too much time on today's Google homepage. | 14:07 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: The problem is that OSS has DUBS mentality | 14:12 |
| snap-l | We don't perfect the wheel, we just make it bigger with more chrome | 14:12 |
| Wolfger | DUBS? | 14:13 |
| snap-l | Sorry, DUB | 14:13 |
| snap-l | Oh c'mon, you've worked at Chrysler long enough to know what DUB is. | 14:14 |
| Wolfger | I'm acronym impaired, sorry | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Refers to 20 inch wheels | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Chrysler partnered with them to trick out the Magnum, 300, etc. | 14:14 |
| snap-l | http://v2.dubmag.net | 14:14 |
| Wolfger | ah... see, now, you mistake me for a car guy just because I work at a car company. | 14:14 |
| snap-l | I'm nto a car company, but they handed out posters of those cars like they were candy. | 14:15 |
| snap-l | It was like a badge of honor how many and how old your posters were. | 14:15 |
| Wolfger | heheheh | 14:15 |
| Wolfger | I never got a poster | 14:16 |
| snap-l | http://www.benlevy.com/auto/show/cas07/chrysler300c.jpg | 14:16 |
| snap-l | That is DUB in a nutshell | 14:16 |
| snap-l | Tricked out, custom. | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Turns heads | 14:17 |
| snap-l | and the moment you hit a curb, you're down $3K | 14:17 |
| Wolfger | LOL. Firewall blocked that site. | 14:18 |
| snap-l | You're shitting me | 14:20 |
| snap-l | hang on | 14:20 |
| snap-l | http://ubuntuone.com/p/yLH/ | 14:20 |
| snap-l | Sorry the great firewall of Chrysler doesn't want you seeing their product DUBed out. | 14:21 |
| snap-l | Though, maybe that's a good thing. :) | 14:21 |
| snap-l | Why the fuck is that site blocked? IT's a guy taking pictures of cars. | 14:22 |
| Wolfger | ROFL | 14:22 |
| Wolfger | I gave up trying to make sense of it. | 14:22 |
| Wolfger | so.... yeah. Really impractical tires. | 14:23 |
| snap-l | I mean, I could understand if it was a site dedicated to Race Queens or models | 14:23 |
| snap-l | but this is _your bread and butter_ | 14:23 |
| Wolfger | heheheh | 14:24 |
| Wolfger | I'll just play guitar on Google a bit longer while we contemplate the logic behind that. | 14:24 |
| Lledargo | lol i didn't realize that the logo was interactive today, going to play guitar right now | 14:25 |
| Wolfger | and you can record it | 14:26 |
| Wolfger | and they give you a link so you can share your recording | 14:27 |
| Lledargo | Yeah, thats awsome. | 14:27 |
| Wolfger | Google is <3 | 14:27 |
| jrwren | columbus is a very tech city. its like ann arbor, but 5 times the populus... and about 2 times the techies :p | 14:56 |
| jrwren | they had to grow 5 times just to keep up 2x :) | 14:56 |
| jrwren | what surprises me most bout the columbus vim meeetup is that I don't nkow any of those 8 on the lsit :) | 14:57 |
| jrwren | 'cept Raju who says "maybe" | 14:57 |
| === DBOut is now known as DBO | ||
| binbrain | jrwren: what the big tech industries in Columbus? | 15:04 |
| binbrain | what <are> | 15:04 |
| Wolfger | uh.... hosting conferences? | 15:14 |
| snap-l | Heh | 15:15 |
| snap-l | That's my thought. :) | 15:15 |
| jrwren | lol. | 15:20 |
| jrwren | lots of finance, insurance. | 15:20 |
| jrwren | for the "cool" factor, edgecase is there. | 15:20 |
| Wolfger | 0_o | 15:20 |
| Wolfger | Finance and insurance are tech industries? | 15:20 |
| binbrain | I'd say so | 15:20 |
| binbrain | not directly of course | 15:21 |
| jrwren | every industry in high tech. | 15:22 |
| jrwren | even escavation. | 15:22 |
| jrwren | do you know what kind of tech they use in escavation? its crazy. | 15:23 |
| binbrain | finance spurs a massive amount of tech innovation around here | 15:23 |
| jrwren | oil drilling - high tech. | 15:23 |
| Wolfger | Just because an industry *uses* tech doesn't mean they *are* tech. | 15:23 |
| _stink_ | so every city is a very tech city? | 15:23 |
| jrwren | tech for tech sake is useless. | 15:23 |
| jrwren | no, but every city has tech. | 15:23 |
| jrwren | its just a matter of how much. | 15:23 |
| jrwren | and cbus has A LOT of stuff | 15:23 |
| Wolfger | A hospital is not a tech business. The companies that make the equipment they use are. | 15:24 |
| binbrain | Id say some industries are less likely to be technically innovative though | 15:24 |
| Wolfger | a financial firm: not tech. The company that writes their software: tech. | 15:24 |
| jrwren | i disagree. | 15:24 |
| binbrain | financial firms around here mostly write their own stuff in house | 15:25 |
| binbrain | at least the stuff I hear about | 15:25 |
| jrwren | but if you mean "tech business" as in a business that makes money selling tech, then I agree. | 15:25 |
| jrwren | but there are very few of those in existence. | 15:25 |
| jrwren | google is not a tech business for example | 15:25 |
| jrwren | apple is not | 15:25 |
| jrwren | MSFT is. | 15:25 |
| jrwren | but now we are talking business revenue models | 15:26 |
| jrwren | so I don't see how "tech business" is relevant | 15:26 |
| Wolfger | Google is very tech. Their product is advertising, but they build a massive amount of non-advertising tech to achieve their goal. | 15:27 |
| Wolfger | Apple is not? Are you insane? | 15:27 |
| jrwren | See, I have no idea waht you are talkinga bout. | 15:27 |
| jrwren | you are argueing my side now. | 15:27 |
| jrwren | in that Finance & Insurance can be tech. | 15:28 |
| jrwren | just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. | 15:28 |
| Wolfger | can be != are, and I've seen no example of a finance or insurance firm accomplishing their goals via building tech | 15:28 |
| jrwren | wow. | 15:29 |
| jrwren | well, here are some examples: NYSE, NASDAQ, VISA, CITI | 15:29 |
| jrwren | all leverage tech to competetive advantage. | 15:29 |
| Wolfger | I'm astounded still that you think Apple doesn't count as a tech firm when that is all they do is build and sell bits of technology. | 15:29 |
| Wolfger | What bit of tech has NYSE built? | 15:30 |
| jrwren | i didn't say that. | 15:31 |
| jrwren | I said they do not make $$$ selling tech. | 15:31 |
| jrwren | most of apple's revenue is from selling media and dsitribution | 15:31 |
| jrwren | its from ITMS not from ipods | 15:31 |
| jrwren | choose what we are talking about, how they make money, or what they do. | 15:31 |
| Wolfger | fiddlesticks | 15:31 |
| Wolfger | itms is recent | 15:32 |
| jrwren | if it is what they do, then NYSE has to build high speed trading systems | 15:32 |
| jrwren | itms has been around for almost 10 yrs | 15:32 |
| Wolfger | Apple has always been a hardware company, and still is | 15:32 |
| Wolfger | They have found a new revenue stream, yes | 15:32 |
| jrwren | you are just wrong. | 15:32 |
| Wolfger | but it is based upon the hardware | 15:32 |
| jrwren | go read an annual report. | 15:32 |
| jrwren | your statements reflect public perception, but not business reality. | 15:33 |
| jrwren | yes, they could not get the distrub revenue without the devices in consumers hands. that is true. | 15:34 |
| Wolfger | check the press releases: http://www.apple.com/pr/ | 15:34 |
| Wolfger | tech, tech, and more tech | 15:34 |
| Wolfger | nothing in there about music | 15:34 |
| Wolfger | quarterly statement: "Apple sold 3.76 million Macs during the quarter, a 28 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter. The Company sold 18.65 million iPhones in the quarter, representing 113 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Apple sold 9.02 million iPods during the quarter, representing a 17 percent unit decline from the year-ago quarter. The Company also sold 4.69 million iPads | 15:35 |
| Wolfger | during the quarter. " | 15:35 |
| Wolfger | iTunes is not mentioned | 15:36 |
| Wolfger | ITMS is not mentioned | 15:36 |
| Wolfger | http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/04/20results.html | 15:37 |
| jrwren | jcastro: moving to florida??? WTF?!?!? | 15:55 |
| jrwren | Wolfger: then I'm misinformed. | 15:56 |
| Wolfger | jcastro moving to FL? | 15:56 |
| rick_h_ | yea, something about chasing a woman :) | 16:00 |
| krondor | I wonder if Florida has been cooler then MI lately | 16:00 |
| jrwren | reading teh anual report, "iPhone and related rpoducts and services" is 4X any other product area and "Other... services" is 1/8 of iphone sales. | 16:02 |
| jrwren | You are right, my bad. | 16:02 |
| jcastro | jrwren: yeah for a year for jill's internship | 16:05 |
| jcastro | no worries, we'll be back | 16:05 |
| jrwren | ho good | 16:07 |
| krondor | jcastro: what you think for the atv2 xbmc replacement? http://bit.ly/kh3yBC | 16:08 |
| jcastro | krondor: whoa, that's dirt cheap | 16:09 |
| snap-l | http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 | 16:09 |
| krondor | yeah, I don't the brand but ... my only concern is it's ion 1 and atom 330 so not sure if it is a bit underpowered | 16:10 |
| snap-l | Apple better get on the stick, or I'm going to have to send Jorge a case of beer. | 16:10 |
| krondor | wow I'm forgetting words... I don't know the brand. | 16:10 |
| jcastro | krondor: jill has an atom 330 in hers | 16:32 |
| jcastro | it's fine | 16:32 |
| jcastro | I'd be more worried about the ion1 tbh, but iirc that can chop through 1080p quite well | 16:32 |
| krondor | yeah looks like from the xbmc forms performance should be just fine. To the shopping cart it is. | 16:36 |
| krondor | ugh something is seriously wrong with me today s/forms/forums/ | 16:37 |
| Wolfger | USA resumes airstrikes in Yemen? When did we stop them? When did we start them in the first place??? | 17:53 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Welcome back | 18:02 |
| Wolfger | we's just droppin' bombs everywhere | 18:05 |
| Wolfger | no wonder nobody likes us. | 18:05 |
| snap-l | Well, that and the news just can't get enough cock to satisfy it. | 18:08 |
| brousch | snap-l: i believe you mean weiner | 18:09 |
| snap-l | SSDC | 18:09 |
| snap-l | Same Shit, Different Cock | 18:10 |
| Wolfger | LOL | 18:10 |
| Wolfger | Yes. Let's ignore how well (or, more often, poorly) our elected officials run the country, and instead focus on the important matter of their sex lives. | 18:10 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: It's easier to drag things down to a hea-said-she-said playground debate than it is to really have hinest and thoughtful discussion | 18:11 |
| snap-l | What's even better is it's probably some character assasination | 18:12 |
| snap-l | after all, few politicians can withstand the mortal would of sex scandal | 18:13 |
| snap-l | you'd have to be JFK or Clinton to withstand that kind of accusation | 18:13 |
| Wolfger | Uh-oh. ThinkGeek is targeting snap-l directly... http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/frustrations/e961/?cpg=162H&image | 18:14 |
| snap-l | heh | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | ok, so should a dba know how to write stored procedures and know how to ssh/tunnel ? | 19:01 |
| brousch | stored proceedures, if his db supports it | 19:01 |
| rick_h_ | feel like I'm doing this moron's work for him and want to know if I'm being a cranky old man or not | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | "Is there any way to connect to AWS in MySQL Workbench so I don’t have to do all this command line stuff? | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | " | 19:02 |
| brousch | it is certainly something he should learn | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | about to explode at that comment | 19:03 |
| brousch | command line sux | 19:03 |
| brousch | gui r0x | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | then ssh tunnel the damn thing | 19:03 |
| brousch | that's networking stuff! | 19:04 |
| brousch | but i would hope you could point him at a ssh tunnel howto and have him do it | 19:04 |
| Wolfger | cruel and unusual punishment that is. Making somebody touch a command line like that. | 19:06 |
| brousch | next thing you know you'll take away his TP and make him wipe with a corncob | 19:07 |
| snap-l | Um, he's a DBA. He should be OK with the command line | 19:09 |
| Wolfger | that's crazy talk | 19:09 |
| snap-l | Sorry, but if you can't admin a DB from the command line, you're not doing it right. | 19:09 |
| Wolfger | You're using MS-SQL, right? ;-) | 19:09 |
| brousch | access does not give me a command line | 19:09 |
| snap-l | That said, I've run into a bunch of DBAs at Ford that used TOAD | 19:09 |
| Wolfger | that sounds rather repugnant | 19:10 |
| snap-l | and Sybase DBAs at Chrysler that used that funky poonched thing that escapes my reckoning. | 19:10 |
| snap-l | brousch: If you're using Access, you deserve whatever hellish torment a GUI can give you. | 19:11 |
| brousch | reckoning should be properly escaped before you put it in your db | 19:11 |
| brousch | snap-l: believe it or now, it's a really nice gui for db crud | 19:11 |
| snap-l | brousch: I've used it in the past with Oracle | 19:12 |
| snap-l | and have used Excel via ODBC to Oracle | 19:12 |
| snap-l | it wasn't pretty, but it worked. | 19:12 |
| brousch | that's half of our business application! well, Access instead of oracle | 19:12 |
| snap-l | I have to hand it to MS; ODBC is a nasty protocol, but it does work. | 19:13 |
| brousch | pyodbc makes it useful | 19:14 |
| snap-l | Embarcadero | 19:14 |
| snap-l | That's the company that made the tool we used. | 19:14 |
| snap-l | Regardless, if your DBA objects to using the command line, they're suspect. | 19:14 |
| snap-l | That's like a guy calling himself a UNIX admin because he uses Webmin. | 19:15 |
| brousch | what's wrong with webmin?! | 19:16 |
| Wolfger | That's like a guy calling himself a web developer because he made a GeoCities page. | 19:16 |
| brousch | damn you all? what am i?! | 19:16 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Shhhh | 19:16 |
| snap-l | Back in the 1990s that was all you needed. | 19:16 |
| krondor | anyone familiar with 'icewarp' mail server? | 19:17 |
| Wolfger | <marquee><blink>GeoCities</blink> was never enough!</marquee> | 19:17 |
| snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/335/ | 19:19 |
| snap-l | I'm a web developer. :) | 19:19 |
| snap-l | krondor: Heard of it in passing, but that's about it | 19:20 |
| Wolfger | Oh, well, if you did it all in Perl, that's different! ;-) | 19:21 |
| krondor | hmm, trying to figure out stuff about it. A smaller IT group has been running it for awhile I guess and now I need to sync their mail accounts to our spam solution. | 19:21 |
| snap-l | (Sadly, I've seen variations on that Perl script more times than I care to admit" | 19:21 |
| Wolfger | that's because a lot of people C&P'd the same bad example. | 19:21 |
| Wolfger | > half the web wouldn't exist without copyright infringement. | 19:22 |
| Wolfger | "we'll just take this website and change the content" | 19:22 |
| snap-l | We used to joke that there was only three original web pages, and the rest was C&P from thosepages. | 19:22 |
| Wolfger | that was before CSS, though | 19:23 |
| snap-l | krondor: I seem to remember (falsely, perhaps) that icewarp was some OSS project at some point | 19:23 |
| Wolfger | Now there's maybe 2 dozen | 19:23 |
| snap-l | maybe I'm thinking of Firefox / Iceweasel | 19:23 |
| krondor | snap-l: no I think I recall that, but looking at their website I see nothing OSS now... not sure | 19:24 |
| snap-l | Like, it was Zimbra or something big before some fork | 19:25 |
| brousch | someone forked zimbra? wow, that is a mighty beast | 19:27 |
| snap-l | that's what I'm remembering, though I could be horribly mistaken | 19:45 |
| snap-l | the ol' brain don't remember so good. | 19:45 |
| rick_h_ | bah ok, he's no DBA. He's a freaking guy that did reporting on MSSQL server and got a job doing mysql db reporting crap here | 19:55 |
| rick_h_ | and doesn't get temp tables, stored procs, etc | 19:55 |
| rick_h_ | "done any programming?" | 19:55 |
| rick_h_ | "some vbscript?" | 19:55 |
| rick_h_ | ... | 19:55 |
| rick_h_ | so you mean no then | 19:56 |
| snap-l | Heh | 19:59 |
| snap-l | Sorry, but if you're a DBA, you get, nay, love stored procedures | 19:59 |
| snap-l | means you get to be touchy-feely about the code banging against your database. | 20:00 |
| jrwren | some python? so you mean no then. | 20:00 |
| snap-l | Aw, who woke 'im up? | 20:00 |
| * brousch sniffs the air. I smell troll | 20:00 | |
| jrwren | "you setup a 1000 node linux cluster, but never built your own kernel? We'll put your skill level at n00b" | 20:01 |
| brousch | snap-l: he has a alert set on vbscript | 20:01 |
| snap-l | jrwren: If the only programming you've ever done, as part of your existence on this planet we call earth, is VBScript, you are worthy of derision. | 20:01 |
| jrwren | its foolish generalizations like that which cause the need for ubuntu code of conduct. | 20:02 |
| jrwren | ITS JUST A PROGRAMMING LANGAUGE | 20:02 |
| snap-l | It is the programming equivalent of saying that you've seen Rome because you bought that month's National Geographic. | 20:02 |
| jrwren | you can program shit in any language. | 20:02 |
| jrwren | except that its not. | 20:02 |
| jrwren | lmgtfy.com?q=define:strawman%20argument | 20:02 |
| brousch | oh man, did jrwren just CoC-slap snap-l? | 20:03 |
| _stink_ | file charges! | 20:03 |
| snap-l | http://jwilliams.org/C2090488437/E1354392596/index.html | 20:04 |
| snap-l | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vbscript+sucks+donkey+balls | 20:04 |
| jrwren | lol. | 20:05 |
| jrwren | so, just like php, perl, ruby? http://www.bitstorm.org/edwin/en/php/ | 20:05 |
| jrwren | http://www.simmoril.com/blog/?p=135 | 20:06 |
| jrwren | http://juixe.com/techknow/index.php/2007/09/21/java-ruby-and-even-python-sucks/ | 20:06 |
| snap-l | I have seen sins committed in PHP | 20:06 |
| snap-l | Atrocities in Ruby | 20:06 |
| jrwren | EVERY langauge has its warts. | 20:06 |
| rick_h_ | look, if the guy has my co-worker writing a freaking C user defined functino no mysql that's taken down the damn server 10x in the last two weeks for this: http://daphne.palomar.edu/stat/vs%20medianfd.html | 20:06 |
| rick_h_ | then he's not a db guy or a programmer | 20:06 |
| rick_h_ | that's all I'm saying | 20:06 |
| snap-l | and language genocie in Perl | 20:07 |
| snap-l | but they still don't hold a candle to the language hari-kari that I've seen of VB and VBScript. | 20:07 |
| jrwren | yeah, I don't know waht that maens. | 20:08 |
| jrwren | I've seen great VB & VBscript. | 20:08 |
| jrwren | I know VB and VBScript coders taht can code circles around a lot of python coders I know. | 20:08 |
| jrwren | EVERY langauge has its warts. | 20:08 |
| jrwren | EVERY langauge has its poor coders and its guru coders. | 20:08 |
| jrwren | wait... he is writing median function in C??? | 20:09 |
| jrwren | WTF for? | 20:09 |
| snap-l | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=visual%20basic | 20:09 |
| snap-l | jrwren: When there's an urban dictionary entry for how shit the language is, I believe the argument stands that VB is shit. | 20:09 |
| jrwren | you are citing urban dictionary entry. I'll let that speak for itself. | 20:10 |
| jrwren | mysql median function is the first user comment here : http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/group-by-functions.html | 20:10 |
| rick_h_ | right, but it's not weighted | 20:11 |
| rick_h_ | so the custom function has to handle a weight to the results, not hard, but for some reason it came to my co-worker that it needed to be written as this "udf" in mysql | 20:11 |
| rick_h_ | which has been a mess/nightmare | 20:11 |
| snap-l | jrwren: that's the freaking point. This guy is not a DBA | 20:12 |
| snap-l | and to add insult to injury, he only has coded in VBScript | 20:12 |
| * snap-l puts himself in time-out. | 20:12 | |
| jrwren | maybe point him to this : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1291152/simple-way-to-calculate-median-with-mysql | 20:13 |
| jrwren | and teach him the power of searching google and stackoverflow for solutions :) | 20:14 |
| rick_h_ | it's not any of those, it's a grouped median | 20:14 |
| rick_h_ | I agree with him that there's not a built in function in mysql to do it | 20:14 |
| rick_h_ | however, he should be able to whip up a SP to handle it | 20:14 |
| rick_h_ | and the fact that he's doesn't know temp tables and hasn't written any SP frustrates me that my co-worker has been chasing what she was 'told' to do where it was clearly not the right way | 20:15 |
| jrwren | its a bummer that there are inexperienced devs out there that make poor decisions. | 20:35 |
| jrwren | its also the norm. | 20:35 |
| snap-l | ++ | 20:35 |
| rick_h_ | oh no doubt, and it's partially my coworkers fault | 20:36 |
| rick_h_ | she 'assumed' that he tried/knew how to do things db side without her C based udf | 20:36 |
| rick_h_ | when that was a big false assumption | 20:36 |
| jrwren | sounds like the team isn't functioning as a "team" ;) | 20:41 |
| jrwren | also the norm. | 20:41 |
| rick_h_ | yea, ugh | 20:41 |
| snap-l | greg-g: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcV4LVhSRLg | 21:31 |
| snap-l | I'm not sure how Ubuntu One managed this, but this file is taking longer to download than it did to upload it. | 22:24 |
| snap-l | Oh hell no | 23:15 |
| snap-l | Hell no | 23:15 |
| snap-l | My Blue Microphone isn't working with Natty | 23:15 |
| snap-l | What the fuck | 23:16 |
| snap-l | This works on the laptop just fine | 23:17 |
| snap-l | And apparently booting with the mic installed worked. | 23:31 |
| snap-l | I am really starting to get very annoyed with this | 23:44 |
| snap-l | Something is causing me to be unable to record. | 23:44 |
| snap-l | Fucking overdub. Seems now Audacity / Natty can't handle that anymore | 23:45 |
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