[02:47] <jrwren> request for Lococast 18... retract your VB6 open sourced announcement. it was a scam. its not being open sourced.
[02:54] <snap-l> jrwren: Thank God.
[12:01] <greg-g> g'morn
[12:30] <brousch> ayup
[12:48] <rick_h_> oh wtf, Columbus has its own vim group now?! http://www.meetup.com/Vim-Columbus/events/20827741/?a=socialmedia
[12:49] <brousch> jealous?
[12:49] <rick_h_> damn ohio
[12:50] <rick_h_> yea, they've got multiple python groups, a freaking vim group, pyohio, olf
[12:51] <brousch> all we have i penguicon
[12:51] <rick_h_> and sorry, but that's not even the same
[12:51] <brousch> i know
[12:51] <rick_h_> that's like "We've got the auto show"
[12:51] <rick_h_> except "We've got the crazy people show"
[12:51] <rick_h_> :P
[12:53] <brousch> I have been toying with organizing an open source conference here. i just don't think many people would come
[12:53] <brousch> besides, we have barcampgr
[12:53] <rick_h_> yea
[12:53] <rick_h_> all things start small though
[12:54] <rick_h_> first pyohio was somehting like 30 people or whatever
[12:54] <rick_h_> I mean we all fit in one big room
[12:54] <Lledargo> rick_h_: I thought the 'crazy people show' was just regaurded as normal life?
[12:54] <brousch> i'd like to see more of that stuff from the east side
[12:54] <brousch> you supposedly have all of the people
[12:54] <brousch> how big is mug?
[12:55] <rick_h_> yea, but people here are anti social
[12:55] <rick_h_> on a great day 30 people
[12:55] <rick_h_> these days, with new location, etc, a bit smaller
[12:55] <rick_h_> but mug isn't made of conf material
[12:55] <brousch> ug, grlug can bring in that many
[12:56] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:56] <rick_h_> morning
[12:56] <brousch> yes
[12:56] <rick_h_> meh, I'll be quiet. Just floored me they were getting a freaking vim group
[12:56] <brousch> groups are easy to start ;)
[12:56] <rick_h_> I'm not going to start organizing anything anytime soon so if you're not helping, stop complaining
[12:57] <brousch> i declare vimgr!
[12:57] <rick_h_> heh, we had a 3 person CHC last night. Smallest I remember since thanksgiving
[12:57] <brousch> i could have 4 people at the first meeting ;)
[12:58] <brousch> i declared a chc-like weekly meeting yesterday. first one is next wednesday
[12:58] <brousch> 8-10pm
[12:58] <rick_h_> awesome, should get it up on the web site as a location
[12:59] <brousch> well it's really a relocation and time change of grlug saturday social
[12:59] <rick_h_> gotcha
[12:59] <brousch> i can't even call it an ubuntu hour yet
[13:01] <brousch> we need a midwinter linux fest in lansing or ann arbor
[13:01] <brousch> does ann arbor have a linux group?
[13:02] <rick_h_> too mac happy :P
[13:03] <brousch> that is becoming a problem
[13:09] <greg-g> brousch: we have WLUG, washtenaw county lug
[13:10] <brousch> ah
[13:58] <Wolfger> Ah... we can all bask in the warm spotlight of the Linux Journal.... http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-bug-reporting-again
[14:01] <Wolfger> I think we should rewrite a maxim: "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are ignored for 6 months until somebody asks if it can be reproduced in the current version and/or latest alpha/beta release".
[14:07] <Wolfger> OK, I could waste way too much time on today's Google homepage.
[14:12] <snap-l> Wolfger: The problem is that OSS has DUBS mentality
[14:12] <snap-l> We don't perfect the wheel, we just make it bigger with more chrome
[14:13] <Wolfger> DUBS?
[14:13] <snap-l> Sorry, DUB
[14:14] <snap-l> Oh c'mon, you've worked at Chrysler long enough to know what DUB is.
[14:14] <Wolfger> I'm acronym impaired, sorry
[14:14] <snap-l> Refers to 20 inch wheels
[14:14] <snap-l> Chrysler partnered with them to trick out the Magnum, 300, etc.
[14:14] <snap-l> http://v2.dubmag.net
[14:14] <Wolfger> ah... see, now, you mistake me for a car guy just because I work at a car company.
[14:15] <snap-l> I'm nto a car company, but they handed out posters of those cars like they were candy.
[14:15] <snap-l> It was like a badge of honor how many and how old your posters were.
[14:15] <Wolfger> heheheh
[14:16] <Wolfger> I never got a poster
[14:16] <snap-l> http://www.benlevy.com/auto/show/cas07/chrysler300c.jpg
[14:16] <snap-l> That is DUB in a nutshell
[14:17] <snap-l> Tricked out, custom.
[14:17] <snap-l> Turns heads
[14:17] <snap-l> and the moment you hit a curb, you're down $3K
[14:18] <Wolfger> LOL. Firewall blocked that site.
[14:20] <snap-l> You're shitting me
[14:20] <snap-l> hang on
[14:20] <snap-l> http://ubuntuone.com/p/yLH/
[14:21] <snap-l> Sorry the great firewall of Chrysler doesn't want you seeing their product DUBed out.
[14:21] <snap-l> Though, maybe that's a good thing. :)
[14:22] <snap-l> Why the fuck is that site blocked? IT's a guy taking pictures of cars.
[14:22] <Wolfger> ROFL
[14:22] <Wolfger> I gave up trying to make sense of it.
[14:23] <Wolfger> so.... yeah. Really impractical tires.
[14:23] <snap-l> I mean, I could understand if it was a site dedicated to Race Queens or models
[14:23] <snap-l> but this is _your bread and butter_
[14:24] <Wolfger> heheheh
[14:24] <Wolfger> I'll just play guitar on Google a bit longer while we contemplate the logic behind that.
[14:25] <Lledargo> lol i didn't realize that the logo was interactive today, going to play guitar right now
[14:26] <Wolfger> and you can record it
[14:27] <Wolfger> and they give you a link so you can share your recording
[14:27] <Lledargo> Yeah, thats awsome.
[14:27] <Wolfger> Google is <3
[14:56] <jrwren> columbus is a very tech city.  its like ann arbor, but 5 times the populus... and about 2 times the techies :p
[14:56] <jrwren> they had to grow 5 times just to keep up 2x :)
[14:57] <jrwren> what surprises me most bout the columbus vim meeetup is that I don't nkow any of those 8 on the lsit :)
[14:57] <jrwren> 'cept Raju who says "maybe"
[15:04] <binbrain> jrwren: what the big tech industries in Columbus?
[15:04] <binbrain> what <are>
[15:14] <Wolfger> uh.... hosting conferences?
[15:15] <snap-l> Heh
[15:15] <snap-l> That's my thought. :)
[15:20] <jrwren> lol.
[15:20] <jrwren> lots of finance, insurance.
[15:20] <jrwren> for the "cool" factor, edgecase is there.
[15:20] <Wolfger> 0_o
[15:20] <Wolfger> Finance and insurance are tech industries?
[15:20] <binbrain> I'd say so
[15:21] <binbrain> not directly of course
[15:22] <jrwren> every industry in high tech.
[15:22] <jrwren> even escavation.
[15:23] <jrwren> do you know what kind of tech they use in escavation?  its crazy.
[15:23] <binbrain> finance spurs a massive amount of tech innovation around here
[15:23] <jrwren> oil drilling - high tech.
[15:23] <Wolfger> Just because an industry *uses* tech doesn't mean they *are* tech.
[15:23] <_stink_> so every city is a very tech city?
[15:23] <jrwren> tech for tech sake is useless.
[15:23] <jrwren> no, but every city has tech.
[15:23] <jrwren> its just a matter of how much.
[15:23] <jrwren> and cbus has A LOT of stuff
[15:24] <Wolfger> A hospital is not a tech business. The companies that make the equipment they use are.
[15:24] <binbrain> Id say some industries are less likely to be technically innovative though
[15:24] <Wolfger> a financial firm: not tech. The company that writes their software: tech.
[15:24] <jrwren> i disagree.
[15:25] <binbrain> financial firms around here mostly write their own stuff in house
[15:25] <binbrain> at least the stuff I hear about
[15:25] <jrwren> but if you mean "tech business" as in a business that makes money selling tech, then I agree.
[15:25] <jrwren> but there are very few of those in existence.
[15:25] <jrwren> google is not a tech business for example
[15:25] <jrwren> apple is not
[15:25] <jrwren> MSFT is.
[15:26] <jrwren> but now we are talking business revenue models
[15:26] <jrwren> so I don't see how "tech business" is relevant
[15:27] <Wolfger> Google is very tech. Their product is advertising, but they build a massive amount of non-advertising tech to achieve their goal.
[15:27] <Wolfger> Apple is not? Are you insane?
[15:27] <jrwren> See, I have no idea waht you are talkinga bout.
[15:27] <jrwren> you are argueing my side now.
[15:28] <jrwren> in that Finance & Insurance can be tech.
[15:28] <jrwren> just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
[15:28] <Wolfger> can be != are, and I've seen no example of a finance or insurance firm accomplishing their goals via building tech
[15:29] <jrwren> wow.
[15:29] <jrwren> well, here are some examples: NYSE, NASDAQ, VISA, CITI
[15:29] <jrwren> all leverage tech to competetive advantage.
[15:29] <Wolfger> I'm astounded still that you think Apple doesn't count as a tech firm when that is all they do is build and sell bits of technology.
[15:30] <Wolfger> What bit of tech has NYSE built?
[15:31] <jrwren> i didn't say that.
[15:31] <jrwren> I said they do not make $$$ selling tech.
[15:31] <jrwren> most of apple's revenue is from selling media and dsitribution
[15:31] <jrwren> its from ITMS not from ipods
[15:31] <jrwren> choose what we are talking about, how they make money, or what they do.
[15:31] <Wolfger> fiddlesticks
[15:32] <Wolfger> itms is recent
[15:32] <jrwren> if it is what they do, then NYSE has to build high speed trading systems
[15:32] <jrwren> itms has been around for almost 10 yrs
[15:32] <Wolfger> Apple has always been a hardware company, and still is
[15:32] <Wolfger> They have found a new revenue stream, yes
[15:32] <jrwren> you are just wrong.
[15:32] <Wolfger> but it is based upon the hardware
[15:32] <jrwren> go read an annual report.
[15:33] <jrwren> your statements reflect public perception, but not business reality.
[15:34] <jrwren> yes, they could not get the distrub revenue without the devices in consumers hands. that is true.
[15:34] <Wolfger> check the press releases: http://www.apple.com/pr/
[15:34] <Wolfger> tech, tech, and more tech
[15:34] <Wolfger> nothing in there about music
[15:35] <Wolfger> quarterly statement: "Apple sold 3.76 million Macs during the quarter, a 28 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter. The Company sold 18.65 million iPhones in the quarter, representing 113 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Apple sold 9.02 million iPods during the quarter, representing a 17 percent unit decline from the year-ago quarter. The Company also sold 4.69 million iPads
[15:35] <Wolfger>  during the quarter. "
[15:36] <Wolfger> iTunes is not mentioned
[15:36] <Wolfger> ITMS is not mentioned
[15:37] <Wolfger> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/04/20results.html
[15:55] <jrwren> jcastro: moving to florida??? WTF?!?!?
[15:56] <jrwren> Wolfger: then I'm misinformed.
[15:56] <Wolfger> jcastro moving to FL?
[16:00] <rick_h_> yea, something about chasing a woman :)
[16:00] <krondor> I wonder if Florida has been cooler then MI lately
[16:02] <jrwren> reading teh anual report, "iPhone and related rpoducts and services" is 4X any other product area and "Other... services" is 1/8 of iphone sales.
[16:02] <jrwren> You are right, my bad.
[16:05] <jcastro> jrwren: yeah for a year for jill's internship
[16:05] <jcastro> no worries, we'll be back
[16:07] <jrwren> ho good
[16:08] <krondor> jcastro:  what you think for the atv2 xbmc replacement?  http://bit.ly/kh3yBC
[16:09] <jcastro> krondor: whoa, that's dirt cheap
[16:09] <snap-l> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8
[16:10] <krondor> yeah, I don't the brand but ... my only concern is it's ion 1 and atom 330 so not sure if it is a bit underpowered
[16:10] <snap-l> Apple better get on the stick, or I'm going to have to send Jorge a case of beer.
[16:10] <krondor> wow I'm forgetting words... I don't know the brand.
[16:32] <jcastro> krondor: jill has an atom 330 in hers
[16:32] <jcastro> it's fine
[16:32] <jcastro> I'd be more worried about the ion1 tbh, but iirc that can chop through 1080p quite well
[16:36] <krondor> yeah looks like from the xbmc forms performance should be just fine.  To the shopping cart it is.
[16:37] <krondor> ugh something is seriously wrong with me today s/forms/forums/
[17:53] <Wolfger> USA resumes airstrikes in Yemen? When did we stop them? When did we start them in the first place???
[18:02] <snap-l> Wolfger: Welcome back
[18:05] <Wolfger> we's just droppin' bombs everywhere
[18:05] <Wolfger> no wonder nobody likes us.
[18:08] <snap-l> Well, that and the news just can't get enough cock to satisfy it.
[18:09] <brousch> snap-l: i believe you mean weiner
[18:09] <snap-l> SSDC
[18:10] <snap-l> Same Shit, Different Cock
[18:10] <Wolfger> LOL
[18:10] <Wolfger> Yes. Let's ignore how well (or, more often, poorly) our elected officials run the country, and instead focus on the important matter of their sex lives.
[18:11] <snap-l> Wolfger: It's easier to drag things down to a hea-said-she-said playground debate than it is to really have hinest and thoughtful discussion
[18:12] <snap-l> What's even better is it's probably some character assasination
[18:13] <snap-l> after all, few politicians can withstand the mortal would of sex scandal
[18:13] <snap-l> you'd have to be JFK or Clinton to withstand that kind of accusation
[18:14] <Wolfger> Uh-oh. ThinkGeek is targeting snap-l directly... http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/frustrations/e961/?cpg=162H&image
[18:17] <snap-l> heh
[19:01] <rick_h_> ok, so should a dba know how to write stored procedures and know how to ssh/tunnel ?
[19:01] <brousch> stored proceedures, if his db supports it
[19:02] <rick_h_> feel like I'm doing this moron's work for him and want to know if I'm being a cranky old man or not
[19:02] <rick_h_> "Is there any way to connect to AWS in MySQL Workbench so I don’t have to do all this command line stuff?
[19:02] <rick_h_> "
[19:02] <brousch> it is certainly something he should learn
[19:03] <rick_h_> about to explode at that comment
[19:03] <brousch> command line sux
[19:03] <brousch> gui r0x
[19:03] <rick_h_> then ssh tunnel the damn thing
[19:04] <brousch> that's networking stuff!
[19:04] <brousch> but i would hope you could point him at a ssh tunnel howto and have him do it
[19:06] <Wolfger> cruel and unusual punishment that is. Making somebody touch a command line like that.
[19:07] <brousch> next thing you know you'll take away his TP and make him wipe with a corncob
[19:09] <snap-l> Um, he's a DBA. He should be OK with the command line
[19:09] <Wolfger> that's crazy talk
[19:09] <snap-l> Sorry, but if you can't admin a DB from the command line, you're not doing it right.
[19:09] <Wolfger> You're using MS-SQL, right? ;-)
[19:09] <brousch> access does not give me a command line
[19:09] <snap-l> That said, I've run into a bunch of DBAs at Ford that used TOAD
[19:10] <Wolfger> that sounds rather repugnant
[19:10] <snap-l> and Sybase DBAs at Chrysler that used that funky poonched thing that escapes my reckoning.
[19:11] <snap-l> brousch: If you're using Access, you deserve whatever hellish torment a GUI can give you.
[19:11] <brousch> reckoning should be properly escaped before you put it in your db
[19:11] <brousch> snap-l: believe it or now, it's a really nice gui for db crud
[19:12] <snap-l> brousch: I've used it in the past with Oracle
[19:12] <snap-l> and have used Excel via ODBC to Oracle
[19:12] <snap-l> it wasn't pretty, but it worked.
[19:12] <brousch> that's half of our business application! well, Access instead of oracle
[19:13] <snap-l> I have to hand it to MS; ODBC is a nasty protocol, but it does work.
[19:14] <brousch> pyodbc makes it useful
[19:14] <snap-l> Embarcadero
[19:14] <snap-l> That's the company that made the tool we used.
[19:14] <snap-l> Regardless, if your DBA objects to using the command line, they're suspect.
[19:15] <snap-l> That's like a guy calling himself a UNIX admin because he uses Webmin.
[19:16] <brousch> what's wrong with webmin?!
[19:16] <Wolfger> That's like a guy calling himself a web developer because he made a GeoCities page.
[19:16] <brousch> damn you all? what am i?!
[19:16] <snap-l> Wolfger: Shhhh
[19:16] <snap-l> Back in the 1990s that was all you needed.
[19:17] <krondor> anyone familiar with 'icewarp' mail server?
[19:17] <Wolfger>  <marquee><blink>GeoCities</blink> was never enough!</marquee>
[19:19] <snap-l> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/335/
[19:19] <snap-l> I'm a web developer. :)
[19:20] <snap-l> krondor: Heard of it in passing, but that's about it
[19:21] <Wolfger> Oh, well, if you did it all in Perl, that's different! ;-)
[19:21] <krondor> hmm, trying to figure out stuff about it.  A smaller IT group has been running it for awhile I guess and now I need to sync their mail accounts to our spam solution.
[19:21] <snap-l> (Sadly, I've seen variations on that Perl script more times than I care to admit"
[19:21] <Wolfger> that's because a lot of people C&P'd the same bad example.
[19:22] <Wolfger> > half the web wouldn't exist without copyright infringement.
[19:22] <Wolfger> "we'll just take this website and change the content"
[19:22] <snap-l> We used to joke that there was only three original web pages, and the rest was C&P from thosepages.
[19:23] <Wolfger> that was before CSS, though
[19:23] <snap-l> krondor: I seem to remember (falsely, perhaps) that icewarp was some OSS project at some point
[19:23] <Wolfger> Now there's maybe 2 dozen
[19:23] <snap-l> maybe I'm thinking of Firefox / Iceweasel
[19:24] <krondor> snap-l:  no I think I recall that, but looking at their website I see nothing OSS now... not sure
[19:25] <snap-l> Like, it was Zimbra or something big before some fork
[19:27] <brousch> someone forked zimbra? wow, that is a mighty beast
[19:45] <snap-l> that's what I'm remembering, though I could be horribly mistaken
[19:45] <snap-l> the ol' brain don't remember so good.
[19:55] <rick_h_> bah ok, he's no DBA. He's a freaking guy that did reporting on MSSQL server and got a job doing mysql db reporting crap here
[19:55] <rick_h_> and doesn't get temp tables, stored procs, etc
[19:55] <rick_h_> "done any programming?"
[19:55] <rick_h_> "some vbscript?"
[19:55] <rick_h_> ...
[19:56] <rick_h_> so you mean no then
[19:59] <snap-l> Heh
[19:59] <snap-l> Sorry, but if you're a DBA, you get, nay, love stored procedures
[20:00] <snap-l> means you get to be touchy-feely about the code banging against your database.
[20:00] <jrwren> some python? so you mean no then.
[20:00] <snap-l> Aw, who woke 'im up?
[20:00]  * brousch sniffs the air. I smell troll
[20:01] <jrwren> "you setup a 1000 node linux cluster, but never built your own kernel? We'll put your skill level at n00b"
[20:01] <brousch> snap-l: he has a alert set on vbscript
[20:01] <snap-l> jrwren: If the only programming you've ever done, as part of your existence on this planet we call earth, is VBScript, you are worthy of derision.
[20:02] <jrwren> its foolish generalizations like that which cause the need for ubuntu code of conduct.
[20:02] <jrwren> ITS JUST A PROGRAMMING LANGAUGE
[20:02] <snap-l> It is the programming equivalent of saying that you've seen Rome because you bought that month's National Geographic.
[20:02] <jrwren> you can program shit in any language.
[20:02] <jrwren> except that its not.
[20:02] <jrwren> lmgtfy.com?q=define:strawman%20argument
[20:03] <brousch> oh man, did jrwren just CoC-slap snap-l?
[20:03] <_stink_> file charges!
[20:04] <snap-l> http://jwilliams.org/C2090488437/E1354392596/index.html
[20:04] <snap-l> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vbscript+sucks+donkey+balls
[20:05] <jrwren> lol.
[20:05] <jrwren> so, just like php, perl, ruby? http://www.bitstorm.org/edwin/en/php/
[20:06] <jrwren> http://www.simmoril.com/blog/?p=135
[20:06] <jrwren> http://juixe.com/techknow/index.php/2007/09/21/java-ruby-and-even-python-sucks/
[20:06] <snap-l> I have seen sins committed in PHP
[20:06] <snap-l> Atrocities in Ruby
[20:06] <jrwren> EVERY langauge has its warts.
[20:06] <rick_h_> look, if the guy has my co-worker writing a freaking C user defined functino no mysql that's taken down the damn server 10x in the last two weeks for this: http://daphne.palomar.edu/stat/vs%20medianfd.html
[20:06] <rick_h_> then he's not a db guy or a programmer
[20:06] <rick_h_> that's all I'm saying
[20:07] <snap-l> and language genocie in Perl
[20:07] <snap-l> but they still don't hold a candle to the language hari-kari that I've seen of VB and VBScript.
[20:08] <jrwren> yeah, I don't know waht that maens.
[20:08] <jrwren> I've seen great VB & VBscript.
[20:08] <jrwren> I know VB and VBScript coders taht can code circles around a lot of python coders I know.
[20:08] <jrwren> EVERY langauge has its warts.
[20:08] <jrwren> EVERY langauge has its poor coders and its guru coders.
[20:09] <jrwren> wait... he is writing median function in C???
[20:09] <jrwren> WTF for?
[20:09] <snap-l> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=visual%20basic
[20:09] <snap-l> jrwren: When there's an urban dictionary entry for how shit the language is, I believe the argument stands that VB is shit.
[20:10] <jrwren> you are citing urban dictionary entry. I'll let that speak for itself.
[20:10] <jrwren> mysql median function is the first user comment here : http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/group-by-functions.html
[20:11] <rick_h_> right, but it's not weighted
[20:11] <rick_h_> so the custom function has to handle a weight to the results, not hard, but for some reason it came to my co-worker that it needed to be written as this "udf" in mysql
[20:11] <rick_h_> which has been a mess/nightmare
[20:12] <snap-l> jrwren: that's the freaking point. This guy is not a DBA
[20:12] <snap-l> and to add insult to injury, he only has coded in VBScript
[20:12]  * snap-l puts himself in time-out.
[20:13] <jrwren> maybe point him to this : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1291152/simple-way-to-calculate-median-with-mysql
[20:14] <jrwren> and teach him the power of searching google and stackoverflow for solutions :)
[20:14] <rick_h_> it's not any of those, it's a grouped median
[20:14] <rick_h_> I agree with him that there's not a built in function in mysql to do it
[20:14] <rick_h_> however, he should be able to whip up a SP to handle it
[20:15] <rick_h_> and the fact that he's doesn't know temp tables and hasn't written any SP frustrates me that my co-worker has been chasing what she was 'told' to do where it was clearly not the right way
[20:35] <jrwren> its a bummer that there are inexperienced devs out there that make poor decisions.
[20:35] <jrwren> its also the norm.
[20:35] <snap-l> ++
[20:36] <rick_h_> oh no doubt, and it's partially my coworkers fault
[20:36] <rick_h_> she 'assumed' that he tried/knew how to do things db side without her C based udf
[20:36] <rick_h_> when that was a big false assumption
[20:41] <jrwren> sounds like the team isn't functioning as a "team" ;)
[20:41] <jrwren> also the norm.
[20:41] <rick_h_> yea, ugh
[21:31] <snap-l> greg-g: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcV4LVhSRLg
[22:24] <snap-l> I'm not sure how Ubuntu One managed this, but this file is taking longer to download than it did to upload it.
[23:15] <snap-l> Oh hell no
[23:15] <snap-l> Hell no
[23:15] <snap-l> My Blue Microphone isn't working with Natty
[23:16] <snap-l> What the fuck
[23:17] <snap-l> This works on the laptop just fine
[23:31] <snap-l> And apparently booting with the mic installed worked.
[23:44] <snap-l> I am really starting to get very annoyed with this
[23:44] <snap-l> Something is causing me to be unable to record.
[23:45] <snap-l> Fucking overdub. Seems now Audacity / Natty can't handle that anymore