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Unit193skellat: Howdy doody!01:49
skellatGood evening01:50
skellatWhat is new?01:50
Unit193Looks like the driver for my display is going to stop01:50
Unit193*Ubuntu is going to stop using it01:50
skellatWhich one is that?01:51
skellatnouveau?  s3?  mirage?01:52
Cheri703o/01:52
Unit1938xx chipset (Via email)\01:52
skellat8xx chipset hasn't had good support for a good two years now01:52
Unit193I've noticed...01:52
Unit193Do you happen to know ANY distro that may have something that works?01:53
skellatWith 8xx?  I had to go out and buy a video card so I could disable the motherboard's stuff for Ubuntu and openSUSE.  You might try Puppy Linux to see if it will boot cleanly, though.01:54
skellatLucid Puppy is the version of Puppy Linux that is binary compatible with Ubuntu Lucid Lynx01:54
Unit193It just randomly has screen freezes...01:55
skellatMy Frankenstein box is running Puppy nicely and is giving less trouble with video than Xubuntu was giving me01:56
Unit193I'll test that... If that doesn't work, I may have to switch back :/01:56
skellatBe forewarned, Puppy uses JWM and OpenBox01:57
skellatAnd ROX-Filer01:57
skellatAnd is Australian in origin01:57
Unit193I have booted it a few times, but never liked it that much :/01:57
skellatIt is really stable with my full install to hard disk01:57
canthus13Puppy is decent.01:58
canthus13It's got a nice live/persistent hybrid thing going on, too.01:58
skellatFor now, I'm letting it be the sole OS on the Frankenstein box01:59
skellatIf I get bored, I may move Franky to Tiny Core Linuc01:59
skellats/Linuc/Linux02:00
skellatWe need a push for a minimal GUI Ubuntu02:02
canthus13skellat: I'm working on Openbox.02:02
canthus13skellat: It'd be cool if we could get it made into an official version...02:03
skellatcanthus13: Is a metapackage out there yet to turn a desktop into one based on OpenBox?02:03
canthus13although, truthfully, it won't be *that* minimal.02:03
canthus13skellat: Unfortunately, no.02:03
skellatcanthus13: That's a step that needs to be handled so that things could move along02:03
canthus13skellat: I need a spare machine to build up from a minimal CD, so I can get that going.02:03
skellatcanthus13: I think that's what the Lubuntu folks did even before they were deemed official02:03
skellatcanthus13: Ripping the hard drive out of Franky would free up hardware but only temporarily02:04
skellatIs it time to start trolling garage sales looking for spare boxes?02:05
canthus13skellat: I suppose I could consolidate a couple of my servers...02:05
skellatcanthus13: Put a call out on the mailing list to see if anybody has unused hardware so you can build your own Frankenstein testbed02:06
canthus13skellat: I'll pull something together.  I have parts... I just need a spare mouse and a hard drive.02:07
* canthus13 figures his 1.2ghz tbird should be plenty of horsepower.02:07
skellatcanthus13: How big of a hard drive?02:07
canthus13For something this small? 10GB would be plenty... as long as it's ATA.02:08
skellatcanthus13: There might be something laying around Erie Looking Productions that fits that size spec, perhaps02:08
skellatcanthus13: I'll need to ask Mister Engineer02:08
Cheri703pata or sata?02:08
canthus13PATA.02:08
canthus13this motherboard is 10 years old... :)02:09
skellatWe've definitely got PATA here02:09
* canthus13 has a pile of dead ones.02:09
Cheri703I hate anxiety -_-02:12
skellatCheri703: Anxiety over what?02:13
Cheri703well, over stupid stuff02:13
skellatCheri703: Anything that can be appropriately mentioned in a logged environment?02:13
Cheri703tonight is: husband is out on bike, it's starting to get dark, he has no headlight, and he was supposed to call when he was headed home, which should have been any time in the last 20 minutes or so...but no word02:14
Cheri703I am prone to anxiety02:14
Cheri703it's dumb02:14
skellatYou could get a Zoombak tracker to ping to get a fix on him?02:14
Cheri703hehe, ohhhh I wish02:14
skellatSupposedly the work well if you have runners like Siberian Husky dogs02:15
Cheri703he just called \o/02:15
skellatExcellent02:16
canthus13Cheri703: I just satisfy my worries with sprint family locator. :)  (Also, I can give my wife directions when she's lost that way. :)02:16
skellatThat works if you've got consistent coverage.  We have spots in Ashtabula County that only get Inmarsat service as none of the big 4 will provide coverage02:17
* skellat walks out of the room for the moment02:32
canthus13blargh.  Power dip killed my servers... and one of 'em isn't coming back up. :(02:42
canthus13Fortunately, it was just a sauerbraten server.02:42
* canthus13 can move that to another machine.02:42
* skrappjaw is here.02:43
canthus13Oh well.. that machine's name didn't fit in with the rest of the network anyway. :/02:43
skrappjawlol. i feel like a super hero.02:43
canthus13skrappjaw: You should wear a cape.  And tights.  in public.02:43
canthus13...And if you do, post pics. :)02:43
* skrappjaw has been known to sport spandex and goggles.02:44
skrappjawI was a swimmer in highschool. Got my letter. :)02:44
Unit193http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/171285/parting-linux-and-mono Why you should move to linux if you don't like webapps05:34
Cheri703So here's a question: anyone have a router that a. they don't want anymore, b. they don't want money for, and c. can run alternate firmware (ideally something I can mess with QoS settings on)?06:27
canthus13Cheri703: I have a router that fits A&B... but not C. :/13:40
canthus13http://baconipsum.com/14:31
thafreakhttp://shop.mattel.com/product/index.jsp?productId=403210714:39
thafreakcomputer engineer barbie14:40
thafreakwell, she has a laptop, pda and glasses...so I guess that's what makes some one a computer engieer14:40
canthus13old link is old... :)14:52
Cheri703thafreak: is there a reason she can't be a computer engineer?14:53
Cheri703and for the record, there is a picture of tux on the "shelf" on it somewhere14:53
thafreakthere's no reason...I just wish it wasn't so....barbie I guess14:56
thafreakmy kids just started getting the barbies....we didn't want them to have them till much later...but we had a birthday party...so my oldest got some barbies14:57
thafreaknow they are everywhere14:57
Cheri703better to have the "career" barbies than the "OMG FASHION" barbies though14:59
thafreakyeah, but I guess my point is that these so called career barbies aren't any different than the OMG fashion barbies14:59
thafreakjust because a barbie has a laptop and a pda, doesn't mean she's a computer engineer15:00
thafreakI guess it's the computer scientist in my being offended more than anything else15:00
thafreakI mean who doesn't carry around a laptop and a pda these days?15:00
thafreakI think I'm just grumpy15:01
thafreakit's my job anyway to make sure my kids grow up to be computer engineers...15:02
thafreaker, um, I mean know about that as an option :)15:02
thafreakAnyone interested in the joining of search engines and live tv?15:07
thafreakI have this college buddy, who I re-connected with, who is also a CS student15:07
thafreaknow all he does is send me these crazy ideas for projects he has, 99.9% of which I have no interest in15:07
canthus13thafreak: I dunno... cable box search functions could definitely use improvement...15:08
canthus13(Doesn't google TV handle live TV?15:09
thafreakhe wanted like a show where people discuss the latest hot topics on the internet15:09
thafreakI was like, you mean like diggnation...i don't think he realized they already had a show like that15:09
canthus13thafreak: ....Tech TV? Been done, died.15:09
thafreakhalf the time, I think he just strings together big words to make his emails sound really "academic"15:10
canthus13turned into g4, which, while having some really attractive women hosting shows, has very little to do with real tech stuff anymore.15:10
thafreakit just ends up being that I have no clue what he's talking about....15:10
canthus13yay technovomit. :)15:10
thafreaknow he wants to do something with the kinnect and real time geographically distributed panel discussions...15:10
thafreaki keep telling him, I'm interested in virtualization, storage, and maybe a sprinkle of voip15:11
thafreakhe came back with storage, well, what about blah blah blah archive of blah blah blah...15:11
thafreakhis definition of storage and mine are obviously different :)15:11
canthus13Heh. Maybe he's not really your friend.  maybe he's a spambot pretending to be your friend.15:12
thafreakI think disks...protocols...he's thinking several layers above all that15:12
thafreakyou know, his emails do sound kind of spammy15:12
thafreakSo, in other news...what's this about citigroup being hacked, and customer credit card info being stolen?15:15
canthus13What's new?15:19
thafreakis there any legal recourse?15:20
thafreaklike if that happened to my bank, can my bank be held accountable for being stupid?15:20
canthus13I think they're held financially responsible...15:24
* canthus13 wonders if it was the bank itself, of it it was a site the bank owns that got hacked...15:25
canthus13thafreak: Oh wow. Sony is still using windows 2000 servers.17:50
* canthus13 is digging around in Sony's network diagrams that were released by lulzsec.17:54
Unit193Nice comment http://idle.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2225160&cid=3638708419:33
BiosElementcanthus13:: That's just...23:27
* BiosElement 's mind blows23:27
canthus13BiosElement: Have you grabbed the file with the network diagrams and the site source code?23:37
canthus13BiosElement: Most of their servers are win 2003. :/23:37
canthus13...But several app servers are running 2k.23:38

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