[00:56] <bryceh> heh
[02:41] <Sarvatt> argh, all browsers unusable while the oneiric upgrade is in progress :P
[02:54] <Sarvatt> woohoo upgrade failed, lets see how broken it is on reboot
[03:11] <Sarvatt> so yeah, somehow added 10 seconds to my bios progress bar time, recovery mode is busted, keyboard/mouse doesn't work with lightdm, unity is usuably ugly and http://sarvatt.com/downloads/wtf.png ...
[03:14] <bryceh> Sarvatt, :-/
[03:15] <Sarvatt> think I'm about done with gnome :)
[03:16] <ScottK> That sounds either good or ominous.
[03:16] <ScottK> Not sure which it is.
[03:21] <Sarvatt> ah I see, gnome-shell is the only thing that works atm apparently
[03:22] <Sarvatt> (yet not installed by default)
[03:41]  * RAOF as always has the working system.
[03:43] <Sarvatt> RAOF: screenshot plz? :)
[03:45] <RAOF> http://cooperteam.net/Screenshot.png :P
[04:11] <Sarvatt> RAOF: woohoo
[04:11] <Sarvatt> thanks man, installing gnome-themes-standard fixed things
[04:14] <Sarvatt> now to figure out why i can't boot the oneiric kernel when the previous oneiric kernels installed under natty work fine
[04:14] <Sarvatt> udev complaining about not being able to write to /run/udev and it just sits there
[04:14] <Sarvatt> guessing its a udev problem and those earlier initrd's weren't updated with the broken udev
[04:21] <bjsnider> RAOF, you're using a lot of ram there
[04:21] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Odd.  My initramfs complains about that and then boots fine. :)
[04:21] <RAOF> bjsnider: Oh, yes.
[04:22] <Sarvatt> RAOF: hrm I waited about 45 seconds before giving up each time
[04:22] <RAOF> bjsnider: ram/swap: 3.6GB,84% s2.8GB,27%
[04:22]  * Sarvatt boots in <10
[04:22] <Sarvatt> RAOF: does lightdm work for you?
[04:22] <RAOF> Again, yes :)
[04:23] <bjsnider> RAOF, i gues you have a few virtual machines running?
[04:23] <Sarvatt> uptime?
[04:23] <Sarvatt> oh latest lightdm is from may
[04:24] <RAOF> Uptime ~4hrs.  No VMs; my system just eats ram for no obvious reason.
[04:24] <Sarvatt> going to have to ssh in and see if i can figure out why keyboard/touchpad/trackpoint dont work, absolutely nothing in the logs
[04:24] <RAOF> It's not udev being broken and not marking the devices as input?
[04:25] <bjsnider> RAOF, you have gobbled up that much ram in only 4 hours?
[04:25] <bjsnider> that's rdiculous
[04:25] <bjsnider> this is linux
[04:25] <RAOF> Oh, much less than 4 hours; it's pretty much static :)
[04:25] <Sarvatt> oh you know that might be it, i didn't boot the oneiric installed kernel with gdm yet
[04:25] <Sarvatt> RAOF is a mono fan.. :P
[04:26] <bjsnider> RAOF, you can check in top or whatever which process is using that much
[04:26] <RAOF> The real killers are firefox at 900MiB res and evolution at 1100 MiB res.
[04:27] <bjsnider> or are they all high
[04:27] <RAOF> (As always).
[04:27] <bjsnider> well, i don't use either, so maybe that's why i don't ever have that much ram usage
[04:28] <bjsnider> it doesn't even get that high with virtual machines running
[04:28] <bjsnider> i haven't even bothered to install a swap partition
[04:35] <Sarvatt> ok stuff is "working", now to see if xorg-edgers "works"
[04:35] <Sarvatt> getting worried about my mesa packaging fork :)
[04:49] <Sarvatt> hmm lightdm upstart script stops because of [ ! -f /etc/X11/default-display-manager -o "$(cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager 2>/dev/null)" = "/usr/bin/lightdm" ] || { stop; exit 0; }
[04:49] <Sarvatt>  but the gdm one never starts
[05:04] <Sarvatt> the udev-fallback-graphics upstart script always fails, i always get a text plugin plymouth splash on the inteldrmfb, moving lightdm out of the way didn't help, definitely some udev bustage here
[05:07] <RAOF> Yeah.  I'm not sure whether my update intel plymouth integration patch actually works because I don't think that plymouth is working right :).
[05:08] <Sarvatt> dang I coulda tested it on natty
[05:09] <RAOF> Well, it doesn't *crash* and I'm pretty sure it doesn't mess up the graphics state; the only question is whether it actually copies the entirety of the framebuffer to the new front buffer before setting setting it as scanout.
[05:09] <Sarvatt> downgrading to natty udev/libudev fixed it \o/
[05:10] <Sarvatt> RAOF: downgrading to natty udev also makes plymouth work again if you want to test it
[05:10] <RAOF> Hm, funky.
[05:10] <Sarvatt> i've got xorg-edgers going, lemme ppa-purge
[05:11] <Sarvatt> will let ya know in about 2 minutes if it works
[05:12] <Sarvatt> oh of course now i see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/787610
[05:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 787610 in udev (Ubuntu) "udevd fails to start: bind failed: Address already in use (affects: 6) (heat: 30)" [Undecided,New]
[05:14] <Sarvatt> RAOF: works fine and actually makes gdm look 100x better
[05:14] <Sarvatt> because you get the purple background instead of black
[05:14] <RAOF> :)
[05:14] <RAOF> Hurray!
[05:15] <RAOF> Time to clean up and upstream with a ‘Originally-written-by: Someone at Redhat’ :)
[05:16] <Sarvatt> \o/
[05:16] <Sarvatt> of course i'm sure its 100% broken with current git
[05:16] <RAOF> Oh, of course.  sna.
[05:16] <RAOF> %^#&$
[05:16] <Sarvatt> I think krh originally wrote it
[05:17] <RAOF> I'm sure he's on intel-gfx@.  He can pipe up if he wants to :)
[05:17] <Sarvatt> I hear sna works on !gen6 if you want to try it
[05:18] <Sarvatt> gen6 for sure needs the xserver stuff :(
[05:18] <Sarvatt> https://launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/intel-sna
[05:18] <Sarvatt> if you could tell me if chromium works on yours that'd be much appreciated :)
[05:18] <Sarvatt> i might enable it for select generations in xorg-edgers
[05:19] <Sarvatt> would be nice if it was just opt-in with an xorg.conf option actually..
[05:19] <Sarvatt> lessee if lightdm works with natty udev
[05:27] <Sarvatt> cnd: looks like you can blame lightdm for your Oh no! error
[07:40] <cnd> Sarvatt, I was using gdm...
[07:42] <Sarvatt> cnd: oh sorry, i switched to lightdm and after fixing udev so keyboard/mouse worked i got the fail whale every login with that
[07:46] <cnd> hmm
[07:47] <Sarvatt> hmm dri2proto 2.5 was never released, now x-x-v-intel depends on 2.6
[07:49] <RAOF> Heh.
[09:10] <RAOF> Hey, ccache!  FASTER!
[09:16] <tjaalton> took 9min to build mesa on my new box
[09:18] <LLStarks> cnd: can two-finger middle-click tap be done in ubuntu without causing the problems of two-finger scrolling?
[09:18] <LLStarks> it's only a tapbutton command
[09:28] <RAOF> tjaalton: Is that a full package build, or just dri?
[09:28] <tjaalton> RAOF: full
[09:28]  * RAOF hates you and your shiny fast system :P
[09:29] <tjaalton> :P
[09:29] <tjaalton> just a 4core, 8 thread snb with ssd
[18:05] <ScottK> Do I want wayland support patches in kwin this cycle?
[18:05] <ScottK> Upstream is offereing.
[18:25] <tjaalton> ScottK: we are not going to do anything special with it, but some people might want to test it. what exactly do those patches enable?
[19:03] <ScottK> tjaalton: Dunno
[19:36] <tjaalton> ScottK: got a link to a commit?
[19:37] <ScottK> tjaalton: I asked mgraesslin to join us here (or you can join #kubuntu-devel)
[19:48] <tjaalton> ScottK: nah that's fine, was just curious
[19:52] <ScottK> OK.
[20:04] <bryceh> ScottK, no you probably don't care about having wayland support patches in kwin yet
[20:05] <bryceh> ScottK, it's nice that upstream is providing them, but it's going to be at least another release or two before there's really enough of interest for you to care about
[20:05] <bryceh> ScottK, you probably can just wait until they're in your regular kwin release
[20:45] <ScottK> bryceh: Thanks.
[22:08] <tjaalton> the "wayland-clients on kwin" news can be found on phoronix
[22:29] <Sarvatt> gonna have to stop intel updates for a few days, dont trust that dri2proto wont get released as 2.5 yet and would be screwed if i uploaded it as 2.6 :P