| RAOF | DBO: What was the missing feature of Xorg that made doing proximity-menus difficult? | 00:03 |
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| DBO | you cant track the cursor without polling it | 00:04 |
| RAOF | So, if I said that you could register to get raw pointer events and if you're an Xi 2.1 client you'd always get them delivered regardless of the grab state, would that qualify? | 00:05 |
| RAOF | I'm wondering because that's something we could cherry-pick back to 1.10 for oneiric if you were interested. | 00:07 |
| DBO | RAOF, color me interested | 00:20 |
| Nafai | oh nice | 00:21 |
| RAOF | DBO: Sweet. I'll ping you when it's in oneiric, then. | 00:22 |
| thumper | DBO: oh hai | 00:27 |
| DBO | oh hai | 00:27 |
| thumper | sometimes I want to stab our code | 00:27 |
| jo-erlend | who can tell me how to write a Unity lense in Python? | 01:25 |
| Vampire0 | Hi, anyone around? | 01:46 |
| Vampire0 | I'm having a problem. I distribute an application. Actually a Java application. The application also provides a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/. Directly after installing the .deb package, the Dash can find the application, but if I start it, only a gray box with question mark and title "win0" appears in the launcher. Pinning that is not possible and also vanishes if you restart unity. This b | 01:46 |
| Vampire0 | ehaviour exists until Unity is restarted. From then on all behaves well. Is there any trigger call I have to make in my postinst script to make this work properly immediately after installation? | 01:46 |
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| oSoMoN | good morning | 08:04 |
| MacSlow | greetings everyone | 08:08 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: around? | 09:11 |
| JohnLea | didrocks; hyia | 09:11 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: some questions on unity quicklists, we need some guidelines for capitalization | 09:12 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: some quicklist have all words capitalized, others not | 09:12 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: what do you advise? | 09:12 |
| didrocks | Create a New Document | 09:12 |
| didrocks | or | 09:12 |
| didrocks | Create a new document | 09:12 |
| JohnLea | didrocks; First letter of each line capitalized, names all capitalized. e.g. "Create a new document" and "Open Office" are both correct | 09:13 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: thanks for the guideline, can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Static Quicklist entries with this quickly please? | 09:14 |
| andyrock | "Keep in launcher" not "Keep In Launcher" | 09:17 |
| didrocks | andyrock: what is it in English right now? | 09:21 |
| didrocks | (it's "Conserver dans le lanceur" in french) | 09:22 |
| andyrock | didrocks, i use English in natty right now... so yes | 09:22 |
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| didrocks | andyrock: heh, so not coherent, should be fixed, but taking care to not break all translations | 09:23 |
| * didrocks needs to import the launchpad translations upstream | 09:24 | |
| andyrock | didrocks, should we open a bug about this? | 09:26 |
| didrocks | andyrock: yes please, just ensure to emphasize that we should take care of translations in the description :) | 09:27 |
| andyrock | didrocks, ayatana-design, unity, unity (ubuntu) right' | 09:28 |
| andyrock | ? | 09:28 |
| didrocks | andyrock: I would say no need for ayatana-design | 09:28 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: we have "Keep In Launcher", should be "Keep in launcher", right? | 09:29 |
| JohnLea | didrocks, andyrock; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI updated with answer to the capitalisation question in the faq, I also added a brief section detailing 'quicklist elements' | 09:29 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: you rock! | 09:30 |
| didrocks | andyrock: so that answers, just open unity/unity (ubuntu) | 09:30 |
| andyrock | didrocks, i got it | 09:31 |
| andyrock | didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/795422 | 09:39 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 795422 in unity (Ubuntu) "Quicklist item "Keep In Launcher" should be "Keep in launcher" as design" [Undecided,New] | 09:39 |
| andyrock | didrocks, i don't know if it is fine | 09:39 |
| didrocks | andyrock: perfect, I triaged it :) thanks! | 09:39 |
| andyrock | didrocks, thx you :) | 09:40 |
| andyrock | DBO, are you here? | 10:02 |
| Zhenech | could someone please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~sargentd/indicator-network/libnotify-bd/+merge/64126? the previous upload is broken :> | 10:13 |
| Zhenech | didrocks, thanks! and yes, unreleased "we" use too, that one was a mistake :) | 10:35 |
| didrocks | Zhenech: yeah, I was surprized by a DD :-) | 10:36 |
| didrocks | Zhenech: nice if you are there, also the branch isn't the right one, (debcheckout <source_packagename> indicates the right one | 10:37 |
| didrocks | Zhenech: but no worry, I'm pushing your change to the right places (in ubuntu-desktop, we tend to use debian/ only branch) | 10:37 |
| didrocks | hum 0.3.8-0ubuntu2 is missing in this branch as well | 10:38 |
| Zhenech | that's the one i checked out with lp:ubuntu/package as I do always :) | 10:39 |
| didrocks | Zhenech: yeah, but desktop branches are in lp:~ubuntu-desktop/package/ubuntu :) | 10:40 |
| didrocks | Zhenech: debcheckout should checkout you the right branch | 10:40 |
| Zhenech | even on a debian machine? ;) | 10:40 |
| didrocks | I agree it's confusing, sorry about that | 10:40 |
| didrocks | Zhenech: not sure, it's quite fun sometimes as it tries to take the git repo ;) | 10:40 |
| Zhenech | heh, will try at some point | 10:41 |
| didrocks | no worry, I'm fixing the "history" :-) | 10:41 |
| Zhenech | great, thanks | 10:45 |
| andyrock | njpatel, your dev-ayatana email rocks! | 11:18 |
| njpatel | andyrock, heh, thanks :) | 11:28 |
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| didrocks | Kaleo: agateau: we are famous on the Qt bug: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/06/10/type-punning-and-strict-aliasing/ :) | 13:17 |
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| Kaleo | didrocks: rock! | 14:19 |
| DBO | andyrock, just got your email | 14:28 |
| DBO | excellent debugging | 14:28 |
| DBO | I very much agree with yoru conclusion | 14:28 |
| DBO | your solution is also agreeable with me so long as you comment as to why it is done that way | 14:29 |
| andyrock | DBO, graet! launcher.cpp is very hard to understand (but this is right) | 14:30 |
| andyrock | DBO, ok... i'm working on another bug right now! i will do it as soon as possible :) | 14:31 |
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| andyrock | DBO, done | 16:22 |
| DBO | andyrock, excellent | 16:22 |
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| andyrock | jcastro, hi | 16:37 |
| andyrock | jcastro, about the unity contributors meetings | 16:37 |
| andyrock | jcastro, where will be held? | 16:40 |
| andyrock | njpatel, i am working on launcher device settings for reproposing this (https://code.launchpad.net/~andyrock/unity/launcher-devices-improvement/+merge/54100) | 17:05 |
| andyrock | i have to follow the google c++ code style? | 17:06 |
| njpatel | andyrock, ideally, if it's a new chunk of code, yes. If it's just fixes in existing code, then it's probably good to keep to the existing style | 17:21 |
| * njpatel needs to run astyle over the codebase at some point | 17:21 | |
| andyrock | njpatel, ok... i will use old style ;) | 17:22 |
| njpatel | :) | 17:22 |
| andyrock | njpatel, what about stl data type? | 17:22 |
| njpatel | andyrock, yeah, use C++ data types if you can | 17:27 |
| njpatel | andyrock, also look at GLibWrapper* | 17:28 |
| njpatel | it's kind of interesting :) | 17:28 |
| andyrock | njpatel, indeed | 17:28 |
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| jo-erlend | Is there Python support to write lenses? | 18:18 |
| davidcalle | jo-erlend, yes | 18:18 |
| jo-erlend | davidcalle, any links? | 18:18 |
| davidcalle | have a look at lp:unity-books-lens or lp:unity-place-sample for a simple python lenses and lp:askubuntu-lens for a more complex one. | 18:21 |
| davidcalle | jo-erlend^ | 18:21 |
| davidcalle | lens* | 18:21 |
| davidcalle | jo-erlend, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses | 18:22 |
| davidcalle | jo-erlend, lp:unity-books-lens is my personal mess, but some comments in it might be useful. | 18:27 |
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| jo-erlend | great. Thanks :) | 18:48 |
| cyphermox | tedg: re the appindicator signals, are you waiting for me to update my branch or are you doing it directly? I'm not exactly certain what conclusion we got to ;) | 19:24 |
| tedg | cyphermox, I think using open/close makes more sense. What do you think? | 19:26 |
| cyphermox | i'm fine with either solution | 19:27 |
| cyphermox | does appindicator already expose open/close? | 19:27 |
| cyphermox | (also, I notice now that the fallbacks don't seem to work properly with my code) | 19:27 |
| tedg | cyphermox, No, it'd be basically the same code, except you'd respond to the custom event siganl. | 19:27 |
| tedg | cyphermox, We'd need to figure out how to get those signals in the fallback case as well. | 19:27 |
| tedg | Hmm, they shouldn't have broken... | 19:28 |
| cyphermox | huh, you mean catch the open/close from dbusmenu and send it through appindicator, and add the return value stuff? | 19:28 |
| tedg | cyphermox, No, with open and close there is no return. They're just a reflection of state. | 19:28 |
| cyphermox | ok | 19:28 |
| tedg | cyphermox, So then we could resynthize the fallback by looking at whether the menu is displayed or not. | 19:29 |
| tedg | Thinking about the fallback I think open/close makes even more sense. | 19:29 |
| cyphermox | what I'm worried about is that setting a new menu when I get an open signal will replace the menu but not leave it in open state (or visible on the screen, if you will) | 19:29 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 19:29 |
| tedg | It should. We replace all kinds of items pretty regularly on the messaging menu for instance. | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | statusicon stuff in nm-applet uses show/hide | 19:30 |
| tedg | It would be best if you didn't do a full replacement, but it's not the end of the world either way there. | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | I can't easily figure out what to replace... unless you have specific ideas for that? | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | (I mean, to not replace the whole menu, just parts of it) | 19:31 |
| tedg | Eh, okay. It'd have to be designed that way in the application. | 19:31 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 19:31 |
| cyphermox | ok, so I'll update the code in my branch and test it some more | 19:32 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: ping | 19:33 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: gbrainy: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/gbrainy/disable-gnome/+merge/64232 | 19:33 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, pong | 19:34 |
| kenvandine | cool | 19:34 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, did you build it in pbuilder? | 19:34 |
| cyphermox | seems okay, for instance it now doesn't build with art-sharp | 19:34 |
| cyphermox | yes, do you want logs? | 19:34 |
| kenvandine | my box is a bit overloaded atm | 19:34 |
| kenvandine | nah | 19:34 |
| cyphermox | oh wait a sec | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | i'll do a quick review, and hope it builds in the archive | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | ok | 19:35 |
| cyphermox | I think my pbuilder wasn't as up to date as it should have been | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | well it'll update itself | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | just has to download more packages | 19:35 |
| cyphermox | oh, right, it would have failed otherwise | 19:36 |
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| ZombiePriest | dear god please tell me there is a way to get rid of this Unity abomination | 20:50 |
| ZombiePriest | Guess not.. | 20:52 |
| ZombiePriest | thanks anyway | 20:52 |
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| nnnaji | om | 22:31 |
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| JanC | http://river-valley.tv/quick-and-dirty-usability-leveraging-google-suggest-to-instantly-know-your-users/ --> might be useful for usability research ☺ | 23:21 |
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| Proxen | hi | 23:57 |
| Proxen | Does anyone know how can I launch an application twice from the sidebar? | 23:57 |
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