[06:09] <imanewbie> hello
[06:10] <imanewbie> anyone on here?
[06:10] <bioterror> Unit193 is here
[06:10] <imanewbie> ok, uh can i possibly get some help installing lubuntu?
[06:10] <bioterror> sure
[06:10] <imanewbie> i've got ubuntu natty already installed and who like some help
[06:10] <bioterror> but im off, my train arrived the destination
[06:11] <imanewbie> i executed the ppa commands and have the option to select gdm or lxdm
[06:11] <imanewbie> which one should i choose?
[06:11] <Unit193> Are you looking to fully convert to Lubuntu?
[06:12] <Unit193> (ppa commands being the install of lubuntu-desktop ?)
[06:12] <imanewbie> hopefully. ubuntu is a resource killer on my laptop, so i'm looking for another distro or anything
[06:12] <Unit193> LXDM should do it
[06:13] <imanewbie> yeah the commands were
[06:13] <imanewbie> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <Unit193> You also may want to have a read of
[06:14] <Unit193> !purelxde
[06:15] <Unit193> That really didn't work... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[06:15] <imanewbie> haha thanks.
[06:15] <imanewbie> but i thought lubuntu was a desktop environment? sorry for being somewhat clueless, but i thought lubuntu was sort of installed 'over' ubuntu
[06:17] <Unit193> You can do it that way, but that page will show you how to remove the default gnome/Ubuntu programs (Not default Lubuntu programs)
[06:18] <imanewbie> alright thanks
[06:18] <imanewbie> Terminal is done running commands, so i'm guessing I just need to restart?
[06:18] <imanewbie> Well, Update Manager came up and the list of updates doesn't seem to include anything related to lubuntu
[06:19] <Unit193> From that website? Sure
[06:19] <imanewbie> nono
[06:19] <imanewbie> I still haven't run anything from that website
[06:19] <Unit193> Ah! Sorry
[06:19] <imanewbie> i haven't even been into lubuntu yet
[06:19] <Unit193> You *should* just be able to logout then back in
[06:20] <Unit193> (As long as you select Lubuntu Session)
[06:20] <imanewbie> okay. then I'll be back in a second
[06:24] <iamnewbie> alright well I tried logging out and logging into lubuntu, but nothing changed
[06:25] <iamnewbie> f
[06:26] <iamnewbie>   
[06:26] <Unit193> Baah... I forgot that you had to change the *dm, you may need to reboot
[06:27] <Unit193> Did you still use GDM for login?>
[06:28] <iamnewbie> No I chose the LX--
[06:28] <iamnewbie> I forget what it was, but I chose the one starting with L
[06:29] <iamnewbie> I'm guessing I should just do a reboot?
[06:29] <Unit193> LXDM. Did your login screen look different? I would really doubt it. You may need to reboot for the changes to take action
[06:30] <iamnewbie> No, everything looked the exact same when I logged out
[06:31] <Unit193> Yep! Time to reboot!
[06:31] <iamnewbie> alright be back in a minute or two
[06:38] <iamnewbie> Alright I'm back again (!!!)
[06:39] <iamnewbie> Lubuntu seems to have been installed, but I couldn't log in
[06:39] <iamnewbie> I tried all sorts of username/pw combinations, but I couldn't log in...
[06:40] <Unit193> Do you remember your username?
[06:40] <iamnewbie> Yeah, it was simple: BK
[06:40] <iamnewbie> but it just wouldn't work...
[06:41] <iamnewbie> any work around to this?
[06:45] <Unit193> Not that I know of... You should be able to login into single user mode and see for sure what your username and even reset your password if you need to (Shouldn't if you can use sudo)
[06:46] <Unit193> bioterror: You don't happen to be back yet?
[06:46] <iamnewbie> oh god...
[06:47] <Unit193> iamnewbie: Hit ctrl+alt+f1 and see if you can login there (What are you using for IRC?)
[06:48] <iamnewbie> me?
[06:49] <iamnewbie> Because I have no idea.
[06:49] <Unit193> Does your password have a space?
[06:50] <iamnewbie> no it doesn't
[06:51] <Unit193> You can't hit ctrl+alt+f1? It should drop you to an easy way to make sure your login info works (It will ask for your username, hit enter, then pass)
[06:58] <iamnewbie> Sooo CTRL + ALT + F1 didn't help
[06:58] <iamnewbie> I have no idea why either
[06:59] <Unit193> Did it switch to a text display?
[06:59] <iamnewbie> yep
[07:05] <iamnewbie> Alright so the text display didn't work again
[07:05] <iamnewbie> It gave me a prompt of 'BK-ub login:
[07:06] <Unit193> That would be the computername
[07:06] <iamnewbie> and I tried entering my login username, leaving it blank, and a bunch of random stuff
[07:06] <iamnewbie> but nothing worked
[07:08] <Unit193> Do you see the grub menu on boot? If not, hit left shift and goto recovery mode. When you are in recovery mode, type ls /home   just to make sure you have the right username, then   sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[07:10] <Unit193> If you didn't type the correct username that is
[07:10] <iamnewbie> haha okay
[07:10] <iamnewbie> so first i type
[07:10] <iamnewbie> ls /home
[07:10] <iamnewbie> then
[07:10] <iamnewbie> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[07:10] <iamnewbie> ?
[07:11] <Unit193> Yep! If you find the username isn't something you tried, login with that before the second command (we are switching you back to GDM)
[07:12] <iamnewbie> and being in recovery mode should display some sort of terminal-like thing?
[07:12] <Unit193> Yes
[07:12] <iamnewbie> last question before i try it: i have BURG installed and so i should try doing 'left shift' before BURG starts?
[07:13] <Unit193> Hmmm... Do you see the recovery mode in burg? And are you on that computer now?
[07:14] <iamnewbie> well i dual-boot, so I'm in windows right now
[07:14] <iamnewbie> that's why i have to keep leaving this  chat
[07:14] <iamnewbie> well, i'm just gonna go and see what awaits me!!!
[07:15] <Unit193> Looks like I need to take a look at BURG...
[07:23] <iamnewbie> Well, thanks for the help, but I'm gonna have to try again later
[07:23] <Unit193> What went wrong? ( bioterror should have a shot at it...)
[07:23] <iamnewbie> I'm gonna need 2 computers to use at once because I don't know my way around the recovery mode of linux and am afraid of doing something
[07:23] <iamnewbie> well, first i wasn't really sure which recovery mode to choose
[07:24] <iamnewbie> there was a linux #.##.# -8 recovery mode and a linux#.##.#-32 recovery mode
[07:24] <Unit193> -32
[07:24] <iamnewbie> i chose 32 and it was going, but seemed to hang
[07:25] <iamnewbie> i actually had the option to go to terminal while i was in burg
[07:25] <iamnewbie> but the ls /home command didn't do anything
[07:25] <Unit193> I am guessing it was the grub terminal (Not normal linux one)
[07:25] <iamnewbie> well when i ran 'sudo dpkgo-reconfigure lxdm,' i got a message that sudo isn't a valid input
[07:26] <iamnewbie> oh ok
[07:26] <Unit193> If the one hung, you could always try the other (or wait for another day..)
[07:26] <iamnewbie> but does it normally take a lot logner to get into recovery mode?
[07:27] <Unit193> Shouldn't. I'm booting my VM to take a look
[07:27] <iamnewbie> it was doing a bunch of checks, and everything seemed to check fine, except for one
[07:28] <iamnewbie> i forget which one it was, but it returned a [Fail] at the end of the line
[07:28] <iamnewbie> and i could switch between the text results, and the Lubuntu screen loading with the arrow keys
[07:31] <iamnewbie> so i'm going to try again tomorrow
[13:06] <silverarrow> hi
[14:59] <silverarrow> lubuntu works great!
[14:59] <silverarrow> I've been using it for about a month now
[15:00] <silverarrow> however I am not that happy with the major updates, to new versions of lubuntu
[15:00] <silverarrow> it causes a lot of work and fuzz