[00:49] <cjwatson> NCommander: I'll work on the d-i build failure tomorrow - libffi needs to grow a udeb
[00:50] <NCommander> thanks
[15:44] <highvoltage> I know it's a bit OT, but it's not every day you get to see d-i on xkcd: http://xkcd.com/910/
[15:51] <stgraber> :)
[15:53] <cjwatson> yeah, I got a kick out of that. :)
[18:16] <seb128> hi
[18:16] <seb128> ev, still there?
[18:16] <seb128> ev, just as a note we should discuss the ubiquity libcheese use some day
[18:20] <seb128> ev, the new cheese versions depends on the clutter stack and tries to bring in clutter, clutter-gst, clutter-gesture, clutter-imconttext, mx and gnome-video-effects
[18:21] <seb128> it seems a bit costy just to take a picture in the installer, would be nice to see if we can do that some other way
[18:35] <cjwatson> especially costly given that nothing in ubiquity is actually using cheese right now
[18:36] <cjwatson> it has a whole module for it and stuff and then never uses it ...
[18:36] <cjwatson> AFAICS anyway
[18:42] <seb128> cjwatson, well ubiquity-frontend-gtk depends on libcheese-gtk18 and ev made a comment recently about the workitem on the GNOME3 blueprint about promoting gnome-video-effects or demoting cheese
[18:43] <cjwatson> yeah, we ship the Python module we build for it, but I don't see where we actually use it
[18:43] <seb128> he seemed to have plans to get the photo thing to work in ubiquity
[18:43] <cjwatson> I can believe that it's future work, aye
[18:43] <seb128> I think it's not used at the moment indeed
[18:44] <seb128> anyway mentioning it because I think the cheese direction of relying on the clutter stack makes sense for gnome-shell but not especially for us, we probably don't want to bring clutter stack in the default installation if we don't need to
[18:46] <cjwatson> indeed