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DoyleI'll give it a try in a little. Thanks charlie-tca00:00
feyd"unable to find or create trash directory" - trying to delete files to the trash on non-OS drives00:32
knomefeyd, you should be able to just shift+del (of course, the files are not in any trash then, but removed...)00:33
feydI could have sworn that this worked before, am I wrong? Has this ever worked?00:34
knomeprobably00:36
knomethere is a bug about the trash afaik, but don't know where00:36
feydI'm sure I had this working just a couple week ago00:36
knomei'm having the same problem with network mounts now and then.00:36
feydblast, it's pretty annoying00:38
knomeagreed00:39
Doyleknome: what do you use for a file manager?00:39
feydthunar00:39
knomeDoyle, thunar00:39
DoyleI couldn't get smb network mounts working well so I setup Nautilus00:39
knomeDoyle, i don't use samba. i use the fuse filesystems (sshfs, curlftpfs) for mounting stuff00:40
knomeDoyle, afaik, both gigolo and smbfs should work... :)00:40
DoyleOk, we're using a Netapp storage system here. I don't manage it00:41
knomewell yeah. i00:44
knomei've only used samba for maybe 2 times00:45
knomeand that's years ago00:45
knomeawwh, gnome sound converter can't overwrite the original file00:58
rodolfohi, could someone help me?02:04
rodolfoi have like lag while dragging the windows02:04
viking667'llo. I've got a wee problem trying to remote-connect to my xubuntu system from a Vista box with Cygwin and UltraVNC installed. I suspect I'm missing something critical. Could someone else walk me through and check that I haven't missed something dumb?04:24
viking667Ahh, I think I just found something online. I'll let you know how it goes.04:29
viking667ugh. five years old, totally irrelevant now.04:31
xrdodrxviking667, remote connect how?04:41
xrdodrxVNC or SSH?04:41
viking667vnc at the moment.04:42
xrdodrxwhy install cygwin?04:42
viking66712 bytes get through to the other end, then ... nothing.04:42
viking667I have it for other reasons.04:42
xrdodrxIs vino-server installed?04:42
viking667yes.04:42
xrdodrxis its daemon running?04:42
viking667meh. Can't remember what I was going to say.04:42
xrdodrxHave you configured vino with "vino-preferences"?04:43
viking667well, I stuck "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server :0" at the end of /etc/gdm/Init/Default04:43
viking667and no, not yet. I haven't got a display on the machine, so I'm trying to do it all remotely.04:43
viking667not at the end of that file, but before the exit 0 line.04:43
viking667I'll go check out vino-preferences.04:43
xrdodrxVino will not enable itself by default04:44
xrdodrxyou must configure it w/vino-preferences04:44
viking667Yup. I now have a black screen...04:47
viking667hm04:47
viking667gah.04:49
viking667so much for thinking I could use that. And xdmcp doesn't seem to work either.04:49
viking667... there's not a gdm.conf any more where there used to be. I'm wondering if it's now buried down in /usr/share somewhere...04:50
viking667and it's plainly obvious that my user has to be logged into gnome for this vino-server to actually show anything of importance other than the colour that goes with everything you wear.04:51
viking667In addition to that, it seems like Cygwin's XWin simply doesn't seem to do xdmcp connections... weirdly enough.04:58
crass`so why does audacious run like ass under natty?05:56
preecherits what i use but runs fine for me-)05:57
viking667hm. the xdmcp port never seems to be opened.06:14
viking667udp/177 doesn't show anything on it when I start up gdm... is someone able to help point me in the right direction?06:14
Wizardhi07:15
Wizardwhich is the default xubuntu theme?07:49
TheSheepdepends on the release07:50
Unit193Greybird is the one for 11.0407:50
Wizardah, greybird looks pretty nice07:51
Wizardthanks :)07:51
starkidhello. can someone tell me how to change the system font color?09:07
Wizard_starkid: that may be tricky..09:20
Wizard_look for some gtk configuration editor09:21
Wizard_as far as i know gtk-chtheme does not allow font colour changing09:21
starkidreally? surprising that something so simple is difficult to change09:23
starkidthanks anyways09:26
Wizard_i'm not sure if it's difficult.. you may fill a feature request, xfce team shouldn't have problems with implementing it09:26
starkidok09:27
=== Wizard_ is now known as Wizard
BesogonHI! Someone who alive?13:09
bazhangwhats the real question13:10
Sysi(and for all the idling guys, be patient if neither of us have the ansver)13:10
BesogonI've noticed that xfce doesn't hide extensions for "desktop" files and doesn't show icons of the files13:11
BesogonAny suggestions?13:12
Sysiwhat xubuntu / xfce version, updates installed?13:12
Sysithat issue was there quite some time ago..13:12
BesogonBut it still have ability to run them13:12
Besogon4.813:12
Besogonubuntu 10.0413:12
bazhangusing a PPA?13:13
bazhangor did you mean 11.0413:13
BesogonDon't think it was official release. Aha13:13
BesogonPPa13:13
bazhangunsupported then13:13
Sysiask for maintainer of that ppa to get fixed versions.. unless you like compiling stuff13:14
BesogonYou guys give answer only to those who build xubuntu from the source code :))13:15
bazhangor just back up and install 11.04 which has a fully supported 4.813:15
bazhangBesogon, you take a big risk when you use some 3rd party thing like a PPA.13:15
Sysicompiling isn't actually supported either, but it's maybe only way to get actually eorking 4.8 on 10.0413:16
bazhangespecially something major like the 4.8 ver of xfce413:16
Sysis/eorking/working13:16
BesogonI have installed 11.04 with Unity on my netbook. It very slow boots. Suppose 11.04 is a big step back referring to effort in making shorter boot time13:18
BesogonSorry for my lang13:18
BesogonBye13:18
Sysifirst to report that kind of issue, could be hardware related too13:18
Sysii wonder what was he counting in for "boot time"13:18
* Wizard yawns13:39
PtptaylorHey is anybody about?14:00
Wizardabout what?14:00
Wizardi'm about to shoot myself because of qt-symbian packaging issues :S14:01
PtptaylorI made a silly mistake when I first installed xubuntu by removing the dock, just wondering if there is a simple way to get it back?14:01
Wizardi think yes14:01
Wizardwait a second ;P14:01
Wizard~/.config/xfce4/panel14:03
Wizardin this directory xfce keeps panel settings14:04
PtptaylorOk, in this directory I have one folder and one file, with some settings in14:05
Ptptaylorthe folder contains a shortcut to the file manager14:05
Wizardhmm, i have alot of files there, but my config is highly customized ;P14:05
Wizardi don't know how will xfce react if you remove this directory14:06
PtptaylorI suppose not too well14:06
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Wizardthere are two chances: it won't display any bar or it will recreate both from defaults14:06
PtptaylorOh ok I will see what that does then14:07
Wizardi wouldn't try if you don't know what you're doing14:07
Wizardyou may simply add new panel manually and fill it with apps, dragging them from menu14:07
PtptaylorIt's ok, the file contains information about the top panel by the looks of it14:07
Wizardyou may also add new user and copy configurations from his home dir ;P14:08
Sysior directly from /etc14:09
Wizardi simply don't knowe where these files lie :D14:09
Wizard/etc/skel lacks them14:10
Sysii'm not on xubuntu, locate14:10
Sysibut i think xfce overruns settings with current ones on logout14:10
PtptaylorI will just log out and to see what happens14:10
PtptaylorDeleting it didn't seem to revert it back14:16
Wizardnot good ;)14:19
Wizardbtw, Sysi, locate sucks14:19
Wizard/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel14:19
Sysieasier to use it and gret than find out how "find" works14:20
Sysi*grep14:20
Sysithough on GUI you can use catfis14:20
Wizardquoting Ed from Fur Tv: try now14:20
Sysilike i said, xfce4 propably resaves config on logout14:20
Wizardhmm, can be14:21
PtptaylorYeh I would kind of agree with that14:21
WizardPtptaylor: are you able to use terminal :>14:21
Wizard?14:21
PtptaylorMy panel settings were unchanged really even after deleting the config file14:21
PtptaylorWizard: yes i can do14:21
charlie-tcayou have to delete both ~/.config files and ~/.cache to make it start over14:22
Wizarddefautls are in14:22
Wizard/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel14:22
charlie-tcaeverything for the current session are in ~/.cache14:22
PtptaylorOk I'll take a look14:22
Sysiahem.. could somebody give quick hint for using "find", specifically searching entire root for file with $NAME ?14:26
knomeSysi, catfish :P14:26
Sysinot available currently, "to be xubuntu" machine14:27
knomei have no experience of find, i only use locate from CLI14:27
charlie-tcaSysi: find / -iname ${WHATTOFIND} -type f14:28
PtptaylorOk so in the .cache directory I can't find anything related to the panel.14:28
PtptaylorIn the xfce4 folder, only 2 folders which are xfrun4 and weather-plugin14:29
charlie-tcaIf you want to reset the panel to defaults, delete both .config and .cache, restart without saving14:29
PtptaylorDidn't seem to have any effect doing that14:33
Wizardremoving .config will also reset most application configuration14:48
Wizardincluding pidgin accounts and history14:49
Ptptayloryep I thought it might do that, so only removed the panel directory within it14:49
Ptptaylornot to worry, I guess I am happy the way things are, it's just a case of when you don't have it you want it and vice versa14:50
boinkboinkhi, i've been using xubuntu 10.10 for quite some time and just upgraded to 11.04. i would like to restore the classic left mouse button copy then left+right mouse buttons drop of text but have not been able to find out how. any chance somebody could point me in the right direction?19:21
GridCubeboinkboink, don't really understand what you are talking about... your contextual menus aren't displaying?19:25
boinkboinkGridCube: the action i get from clicking left+right mouse button is to bring up the application selection menu.  in the past w/ 10.10, left+right mouse button would paste text i had previously select by left mouse button + drag over some text.  i would like to restore that action.19:32
GridCubeoh yes19:32
boinkboink:)19:32
GridCubei understand now, you where using middleclic emulation19:32
boinkboinkyes, i suppose that's the name..19:33
GridCubeyes, because a standard linux behaviour, i think is an X.org behaviour is that middle clicking pastes whatever is seleted last19:34
Sysii wonder why wouldn't middle click emulation be there by default.. still possible19:35
boinkboinkGridCube: agree but seems to have been overridden in 10.04..19:35
GridCube11.0419:35
boinkboinker yes, 11.0419:35
GridCubehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90860519:35
boinkboinkloading19:36
boinkboinkGridCube: figured that it would be something like that but do not have an xorg.conf file on this install.19:37
GridCubeyep, just create one19:37
xrdodrxThis was an upstream change in X.org.19:38
xrdodrxLet me see if I can find the bug report...19:38
boinkboinkGridCube: will do, i need to install latest Nvidia and will make sure the xorg.conf has emulate 3 buttons.  thanks for the URL and will implement and bbltr..  Thanks again.19:38
GridCubeboinkboink :) hope everything goes well19:39
GridCubecome back whenever you want :D19:39
boinkboinkxrdodrx: ah, thanks for that input. do you know if xorg has plans restore the old 3 button emulation as a default?19:40
xrdodrxboinkboink, I'm looking, it also included a patch, so if you give me just a minute I'll see if I can find it :)19:40
boinkboinkxrdodrx: thank you vm!19:41
boinkboinkheh, just noticed that autocomplete of you nic, swaps the trailing x_: at the end of your nic for a smiley in adium..  :(19:44
xrdodrxboinkboink, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/71076219:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 710762 in Release Notes for Ubuntu "Middle mouse button no longer works" [Undecided,Fix committed]19:47
xrdodrxespecially see the workaround19:47
boinkboinkthank you both.. !  i'll get busy and should be back shortly after lunch..19:48
xrdodrxIt's just a few lines in xorg.conf, and you're welcome :D19:48
xrdodrxsometimes changes upstream makes are pretty weird :s19:48
dubphilHello, I'm in big trouble with my xubuntu on a brand new laptop from Clevo, I must blacklist the jme net driver if I want stability. but I need some new paquages to install another jme driver. The problem is that synaptic is unable to load the cdrom because it has been already mounted with another name than "cdrom" what is the solution please ?21:04
dubphilthe media is called "Xubuntu 11.04 amd64" I'm unable to unmount it ; it says device busy21:05
boinkboinkGridCube, xrdodrx, & ubottu: thanks to the three of you for help w/ the middle mouse button issue. all fixed and tested in my primary app: blender..  i'll leave this up but, gonna have to go out and mow in a bit..21:07
GridCubeubottu, is a bot :D he is welcome to, as we are :D21:08
xrdodrxhi, I'm having a very weird problem that I can't seem to figure out how to fix...21:27
xrdodrxI can't get the Keyboard Layout Switcher applet to appear21:27
xrdodrxI have to keep setting them in Settings>Keyboard>Layout21:28
xrdodrxwhich is a royal pain21:28
charlie-tcaknown bug, I believe21:28
xrdodrx:(21:28
xrdodrxworkaround?21:28
charlie-tcaset them again in  Settings>Keyboard>Layout21:28
charlie-tca:-(21:28
xrdodrx:(21:29
xrdodrxinteresting, Iĺl see what I can find21:29
xrdodrxalso, that ĺ ś ŕ thing is why it annoys me lol21:29
charlie-tcagood luck21:29
charlie-tcathat is a different keyboard, right?21:30
xrdodrxIt's US-International21:30
charlie-tcareally?21:30
xrdodrxyes21:30
charlie-tcaMine doesn't do that21:30
xrdodrxI need it for spanish letters like ñ, é, á21:30
charlie-tcayup21:30
charlie-tcaà é "n21:31
charlie-tcathey aren't linked to the compose key?21:32
charlie-tcaYou do know you can set a compose key, right?21:33
xrdodrxcharlie-tca, ?21:36
xrdodrxI found instructions for GNOME21:36
xrdodrxcouldn't do it in xfce for some reason...21:36
charlie-tcaI set it in /etc/default/keyboard, adding a line to what is there:21:38
charlie-tcaXKBMODEL="pc105"21:38
charlie-tcaXKBLAYOUT="us"21:38
charlie-tcaXKBVARIANT="alt-intl"21:38
charlie-tcaXKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,compose:rwin"21:38
xrdodrxoh cool21:39
xrdodrxthis makes the right alternate key the compose key?21:39
charlie-tcaright windows key21:39
charlie-tcaright alternate is level 3 key21:39
xrdodrxI only have one win key, which I use for other shortcuts21:39
xrdodrxI could switch out rwin for ralt_switch ?21:39
charlie-tcasure21:40
xrdodrx:D21:40
xrdodrxthanks21:40
charlie-tcaYou are welcome21:40
charlie-tcaMaybe it will help21:40
xrdodrxdidn't seem to take effect21:41
xrdodrxis an X restart needed?21:41
charlie-tcaprobably21:41
xrdodrxI've been running it since Saturday though21:42
xrdodrx;_;21:42
xrdodrxlol ok21:42
xrdodrxbrb21:42
charlie-tcaor we got something wrong :-(21:42
xrdodrxcharlie-tca, I did21:42
xrdodrxXKBMODEL="pc105"21:42
xrdodrxXKBLAYOUT="us"21:42
xrdodrxXKBVARIANT="alt-intl"21:42
xrdodrxXKBOPTIONS="compose:ralt_switch"21:42
xrdodrxlooks right to me?21:43
charlie-tcalooks right21:43
xrdodrxcharlie-tca, I feel I don't know what I'm doing21:46
xrdodrxor how to use it21:46
xrdodrxI press ralt, then ', then e, but the 'e does not appear21:46
charlie-tcaé21:46
charlie-tca?21:46
xrdodrxyes21:47
charlie-tcaoh, crap21:47
xrdodrxLooking at the ubuntu wiki21:47
xrdodrxit looks like I really want a level 3 modifier21:47
charlie-tcaI got it wrong then21:47
xrdodrxand not a compose key21:47
charlie-tcaI press '   then    e    and it works21:47
xrdodrx?21:47
charlie-tcato get a normal '    I have to hit it and space21:47
charlie-tcaso, now you got me wondering, What the hell does the other two level keys do for me?21:48
hatalar205Hi21:48
charlie-tca!hi | hatalar20521:48
ubottuhatalar205: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!21:48
hatalar205I have just installed Xubuntu21:48
hatalar205and it works great21:48
hatalar205but I have a problem21:48
charlie-tcaxrdodrx: I been doing it for so long, it never occurred to me it wasn't working right21:48
charlie-tcahatalar205: Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.21:49
xrdodrxI changed it to XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch"21:50
xrdodrxlet's see what happens :)21:50
xrdodrxwell, I give up I guess, nothing I do seems to have any effect on the keyboard :(21:52
charlie-tcafile bug time?21:52
xrdodrxI thought the keyboard-layout switch applet was already a bug?21:53
xrdodrxThat's the root of the issue21:53
charlie-tcait is21:53
charlie-tcaabout half a dozen, if I remember right?21:53
xrdodrxjust will have to see if it's fixed in 11.1021:53
xrdodrxheh, yeah21:53
charlie-tcayeah, I know a couple of Xfce devs worked on it. Maybe it will get fixed.21:54
xrdodrxAs far as the compose key goes21:55
xrdodrxit works for you, so it's probably just my own stupidity in the matter21:55
charlie-tcano, not so sure about that21:55
charlie-tcahatalar205: you going to tell us the actual problem, or should I guess?21:55
xrdodrxcharlie-tca, I'll file a bug :)21:56
charlie-tcaOkay, that works21:56
xrdodrxI can't seem to find the link to the xubuntu bug tracker22:07
charlie-tcause this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug22:08
xrdodrxcharlie-tca, I'm not sure if I did this right: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/79574922:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 795749 in Ubuntu "cannot change compose key" [Undecided,New]22:22
charlie-tcalooks right to me22:25
charlie-tcaThanks for filing it22:25
=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
hatalar205How can I install XBMC media center?23:39
gr8m8!info xbmc23:40
ubottuPackage xbmc does not exist in natty23:40
gr8m8!find xbmc23:40
ubottuFile xbmc found in anyremote-data, freevo-data, texlive-latex-extra23:40
gr8m8!info XBMC23:40
ubottuPackage XBMC does not exist in natty23:40
hatalar205What can I use as a media center in Xubuntu?23:41
Sysihttp://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu,_a_Step-by-Step_Guide23:41
hatalar205Sysi it doesn't work I tried23:41
Sysiwhat part failed?23:42
=== james is now known as Guest52825
gr8m8I use nfs mounts, mplayer and thunar for my media center23:42
Unit193!info mythbuntu-desktop23:42
ubottumythbuntu-desktop (source: mythbuntu-meta): The Mythbuntu standalone system. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.65 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc)23:42
hatalar205404 or something like that "not found"23:43
charlie-tcaUnit193: xbmc is not in any ubuntu repository23:43
Sysiseems there isn't ppa for 11.04 yet23:43
hatalar205Ok. Second question23:43
Unit193charlie-tca: He also asked what he can use as a media center23:43
charlie-tcaoh23:44
Unit193(Or I read that wrong...)23:44
charlie-tcayup, mythbuntu or ubuntustudio?23:44
Guest52825hi :) , is there a line for questions?  or do i ask away?23:45
hatalar205go on23:45
charlie-tcaGuest52825: Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.23:45
charlie-tcajust throw it out there23:45
Guest52825I installed xubuntu on a celeron system and a 20 gb hdd.  i picked some auto partition during the install, and / was installed on a 2.2g partition.  when i tried to do an update, it said i didn't have enough info.  should i reinstall from scratch specifying paritions manually?>23:47
charlie-tcahow much free space do you have on the drive?23:48
Guest52825it's a 20 gb drive.  i have outputs from parted and df if it helps.23:48
Guest52825it's just that the partition with / has little space left23:48
charlie-tcais it an empty 20gb drive, other than xubuntu?23:48
Guest52825yes23:49
charlie-tcaYes, reinstall using manual partition. Thanks for letting us know it did that.23:49
Guest52825thanks23:49
charlie-tcawhich release is that?23:49
Guest52825hehe...i was afraid of that question.  if i put the disc in my win 7 machine, would i be able to tell?23:50
charlie-tcanever mind23:50
Guest52825sorry23:50
charlie-tcait's okay23:50
Guest52825thanks :)23:51
hatalar205When I install a program from terminal or Ubuntu Software Centre, during the downloading process I can't surf on the net. There three more computers on the network and they can't also.23:52
hatalar205Is there a way to limit its bandwit usage23:53

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