[00:00] <Doyle> I'll give it a try in a little. Thanks charlie-tca
[00:32] <feyd> "unable to find or create trash directory" - trying to delete files to the trash on non-OS drives
[00:33] <knome> feyd, you should be able to just shift+del (of course, the files are not in any trash then, but removed...)
[00:34] <feyd> I could have sworn that this worked before, am I wrong? Has this ever worked?
[00:36] <knome> probably
[00:36] <knome> there is a bug about the trash afaik, but don't know where
[00:36] <feyd> I'm sure I had this working just a couple week ago
[00:36] <knome> i'm having the same problem with network mounts now and then.
[00:38] <feyd> blast, it's pretty annoying
[00:39] <knome> agreed
[00:39] <Doyle> knome: what do you use for a file manager?
[00:39] <feyd> thunar
[00:39] <knome> Doyle, thunar
[00:39] <Doyle> I couldn't get smb network mounts working well so I setup Nautilus
[00:40] <knome> Doyle, i don't use samba. i use the fuse filesystems (sshfs, curlftpfs) for mounting stuff
[00:40] <knome> Doyle, afaik, both gigolo and smbfs should work... :)
[00:41] <Doyle> Ok, we're using a Netapp storage system here. I don't manage it
[00:44] <knome> well yeah. i
[00:45] <knome> i've only used samba for maybe 2 times
[00:45] <knome> and that's years ago
[00:58] <knome> awwh, gnome sound converter can't overwrite the original file
[02:04] <rodolfo> hi, could someone help me?
[02:04] <rodolfo> i have like lag while dragging the windows
[04:24] <viking667> 'llo. I've got a wee problem trying to remote-connect to my xubuntu system from a Vista box with Cygwin and UltraVNC installed. I suspect I'm missing something critical. Could someone else walk me through and check that I haven't missed something dumb?
[04:29] <viking667> Ahh, I think I just found something online. I'll let you know how it goes.
[04:31] <viking667> ugh. five years old, totally irrelevant now.
[04:41] <xrdodrx> viking667, remote connect how?
[04:41] <xrdodrx> VNC or SSH?
[04:42] <viking667> vnc at the moment.
[04:42] <xrdodrx> why install cygwin?
[04:42] <viking667> 12 bytes get through to the other end, then ... nothing.
[04:42] <viking667> I have it for other reasons.
[04:42] <xrdodrx> Is vino-server installed?
[04:42] <viking667> yes.
[04:42] <xrdodrx> is its daemon running?
[04:42] <viking667> meh. Can't remember what I was going to say.
[04:43] <xrdodrx> Have you configured vino with "vino-preferences"?
[04:43] <viking667> well, I stuck "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server :0" at the end of /etc/gdm/Init/Default
[04:43] <viking667> and no, not yet. I haven't got a display on the machine, so I'm trying to do it all remotely.
[04:43] <viking667> not at the end of that file, but before the exit 0 line.
[04:43] <viking667> I'll go check out vino-preferences.
[04:44] <xrdodrx> Vino will not enable itself by default
[04:44] <xrdodrx> you must configure it w/vino-preferences
[04:47] <viking667> Yup. I now have a black screen...
[04:47] <viking667> hm
[04:49] <viking667> gah.
[04:49] <viking667> so much for thinking I could use that. And xdmcp doesn't seem to work either.
[04:50] <viking667> ... there's not a gdm.conf any more where there used to be. I'm wondering if it's now buried down in /usr/share somewhere...
[04:51] <viking667> and it's plainly obvious that my user has to be logged into gnome for this vino-server to actually show anything of importance other than the colour that goes with everything you wear.
[04:58] <viking667> In addition to that, it seems like Cygwin's XWin simply doesn't seem to do xdmcp connections... weirdly enough.
[05:56] <crass`> so why does audacious run like ass under natty?
[05:57] <preecher> its what i use but runs fine for me-)
[06:14] <viking667> hm. the xdmcp port never seems to be opened.
[06:14] <viking667> udp/177 doesn't show anything on it when I start up gdm... is someone able to help point me in the right direction?
[07:15] <Wizard> hi
[07:49] <Wizard> which is the default xubuntu theme?
[07:50] <TheSheep> depends on the release
[07:50] <Unit193> Greybird is the one for 11.04
[07:51] <Wizard> ah, greybird looks pretty nice
[07:51] <Wizard> thanks :)
[09:07] <starkid> hello. can someone tell me how to change the system font color?
[09:20] <Wizard_> starkid: that may be tricky..
[09:21] <Wizard_> look for some gtk configuration editor
[09:21] <Wizard_> as far as i know gtk-chtheme does not allow font colour changing
[09:23] <starkid> really? surprising that something so simple is difficult to change
[09:26] <starkid> thanks anyways
[09:26] <Wizard_> i'm not sure if it's difficult.. you may fill a feature request, xfce team shouldn't have problems with implementing it
[09:27] <starkid> ok
[13:09] <Besogon> HI! Someone who alive?
[13:10] <bazhang> whats the real question
[13:10] <Sysi> (and for all the idling guys, be patient if neither of us have the ansver)
[13:11] <Besogon> I've noticed that xfce doesn't hide extensions for "desktop" files and doesn't show icons of the files
[13:12] <Besogon> Any suggestions?
[13:12] <Sysi> what xubuntu / xfce version, updates installed?
[13:12] <Sysi> that issue was there quite some time ago..
[13:12] <Besogon> But it still have ability to run them
[13:12] <Besogon> 4.8
[13:12] <Besogon> ubuntu 10.04
[13:13] <bazhang> using a PPA?
[13:13] <bazhang> or did you mean 11.04
[13:13] <Besogon> Don't think it was official release. Aha
[13:13] <Besogon> PPa
[13:13] <bazhang> unsupported then
[13:14] <Sysi> ask for maintainer of that ppa to get fixed versions.. unless you like compiling stuff
[13:15] <Besogon> You guys give answer only to those who build xubuntu from the source code :))
[13:15] <bazhang> or just back up and install 11.04 which has a fully supported 4.8
[13:15] <bazhang> Besogon, you take a big risk when you use some 3rd party thing like a PPA.
[13:16] <Sysi> compiling isn't actually supported either, but it's maybe only way to get actually eorking 4.8 on 10.04
[13:16] <bazhang> especially something major like the 4.8 ver of xfce4
[13:16] <Sysi> s/eorking/working
[13:18] <Besogon> I have installed 11.04 with Unity on my netbook. It very slow boots. Suppose 11.04 is a big step back referring to effort in making shorter boot time
[13:18] <Besogon> Sorry for my lang
[13:18] <Besogon> Bye
[13:18] <Sysi> first to report that kind of issue, could be hardware related too
[13:18] <Sysi> i wonder what was he counting in for "boot time"
[13:39]  * Wizard yawns
[14:00] <Ptptaylor> Hey is anybody about?
[14:00] <Wizard> about what?
[14:01] <Wizard> i'm about to shoot myself because of qt-symbian packaging issues :S
[14:01] <Ptptaylor> I made a silly mistake when I first installed xubuntu by removing the dock, just wondering if there is a simple way to get it back?
[14:01] <Wizard> i think yes
[14:01] <Wizard> wait a second ;P
[14:03] <Wizard> ~/.config/xfce4/panel
[14:04] <Wizard> in this directory xfce keeps panel settings
[14:05] <Ptptaylor> Ok, in this directory I have one folder and one file, with some settings in
[14:05] <Ptptaylor> the folder contains a shortcut to the file manager
[14:05] <Wizard> hmm, i have alot of files there, but my config is highly customized ;P
[14:06] <Wizard> i don't know how will xfce react if you remove this directory
[14:06] <Ptptaylor> I suppose not too well
[14:06] <Ptptaylor> ]
[14:06] <Wizard> there are two chances: it won't display any bar or it will recreate both from defaults
[14:07] <Ptptaylor> Oh ok I will see what that does then
[14:07] <Wizard> i wouldn't try if you don't know what you're doing
[14:07] <Wizard> you may simply add new panel manually and fill it with apps, dragging them from menu
[14:07] <Ptptaylor> It's ok, the file contains information about the top panel by the looks of it
[14:08] <Wizard> you may also add new user and copy configurations from his home dir ;P
[14:09] <Sysi> or directly from /etc
[14:09] <Wizard> i simply don't knowe where these files lie :D
[14:10] <Wizard> /etc/skel lacks them
[14:10] <Sysi> i'm not on xubuntu, locate
[14:10] <Sysi> but i think xfce overruns settings with current ones on logout
[14:10] <Ptptaylor> I will just log out and to see what happens
[14:16] <Ptptaylor> Deleting it didn't seem to revert it back
[14:19] <Wizard> not good ;)
[14:19] <Wizard> btw, Sysi, locate sucks
[14:19] <Wizard> /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel
[14:20] <Sysi> easier to use it and gret than find out how "find" works
[14:20] <Sysi> *grep
[14:20] <Sysi> though on GUI you can use catfis
[14:20] <Wizard> quoting Ed from Fur Tv: try now
[14:20] <Sysi> like i said, xfce4 propably resaves config on logout
[14:21] <Wizard> hmm, can be
[14:21] <Ptptaylor> Yeh I would kind of agree with that
[14:21] <Wizard> Ptptaylor: are you able to use terminal :>
[14:21] <Wizard> ?
[14:21] <Ptptaylor> My panel settings were unchanged really even after deleting the config file
[14:21] <Ptptaylor> Wizard: yes i can do
[14:22] <charlie-tca> you have to delete both ~/.config files and ~/.cache to make it start over
[14:22] <Wizard> defautls are in
[14:22] <Wizard> /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel
[14:22] <charlie-tca> everything for the current session are in ~/.cache
[14:22] <Ptptaylor> Ok I'll take a look
[14:26] <Sysi> ahem.. could somebody give quick hint for using "find", specifically searching entire root for file with $NAME ?
[14:26] <knome> Sysi, catfish :P
[14:27] <Sysi> not available currently, "to be xubuntu" machine
[14:27] <knome> i have no experience of find, i only use locate from CLI
[14:28] <charlie-tca> Sysi: find / -iname ${WHATTOFIND} -type f
[14:28] <Ptptaylor> Ok so in the .cache directory I can't find anything related to the panel.
[14:29] <Ptptaylor> In the xfce4 folder, only 2 folders which are xfrun4 and weather-plugin
[14:29] <charlie-tca> If you want to reset the panel to defaults, delete both .config and .cache, restart without saving
[14:33] <Ptptaylor> Didn't seem to have any effect doing that
[14:48] <Wizard> removing .config will also reset most application configuration
[14:49] <Wizard> including pidgin accounts and history
[14:49] <Ptptaylor> yep I thought it might do that, so only removed the panel directory within it
[14:50] <Ptptaylor> not to worry, I guess I am happy the way things are, it's just a case of when you don't have it you want it and vice versa
[19:21] <boinkboink> hi, i've been using xubuntu 10.10 for quite some time and just upgraded to 11.04. i would like to restore the classic left mouse button copy then left+right mouse buttons drop of text but have not been able to find out how. any chance somebody could point me in the right direction?
[19:25] <GridCube> boinkboink, don't really understand what you are talking about... your contextual menus aren't displaying?
[19:32] <boinkboink> GridCube: the action i get from clicking left+right mouse button is to bring up the application selection menu.  in the past w/ 10.10, left+right mouse button would paste text i had previously select by left mouse button + drag over some text.  i would like to restore that action.
[19:32] <GridCube> oh yes
[19:32] <boinkboink> :)
[19:32] <GridCube> i understand now, you where using middleclic emulation
[19:33] <boinkboink> yes, i suppose that's the name..
[19:34] <GridCube> yes, because a standard linux behaviour, i think is an X.org behaviour is that middle clicking pastes whatever is seleted last
[19:35] <Sysi> i wonder why wouldn't middle click emulation be there by default.. still possible
[19:35] <boinkboink> GridCube: agree but seems to have been overridden in 10.04..
[19:35] <GridCube> 11.04
[19:35] <boinkboink> er yes, 11.04
[19:35] <GridCube> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=908605
[19:36] <boinkboink> loading
[19:37] <boinkboink> GridCube: figured that it would be something like that but do not have an xorg.conf file on this install.
[19:37] <GridCube> yep, just create one
[19:38] <xrdodrx> This was an upstream change in X.org.
[19:38] <xrdodrx> Let me see if I can find the bug report...
[19:38] <boinkboink> GridCube: will do, i need to install latest Nvidia and will make sure the xorg.conf has emulate 3 buttons.  thanks for the URL and will implement and bbltr..  Thanks again.
[19:39] <GridCube> boinkboink :) hope everything goes well
[19:39] <GridCube> come back whenever you want :D
[19:40] <boinkboink> xrdodrx: ah, thanks for that input. do you know if xorg has plans restore the old 3 button emulation as a default?
[19:40] <xrdodrx> boinkboink, I'm looking, it also included a patch, so if you give me just a minute I'll see if I can find it :)
[19:41] <boinkboink> xrdodrx: thank you vm!
[19:44] <boinkboink> heh, just noticed that autocomplete of you nic, swaps the trailing x_: at the end of your nic for a smiley in adium..  :(
[19:47] <xrdodrx> boinkboink, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/710762
[19:47] <xrdodrx> especially see the workaround
[19:48] <boinkboink> thank you both.. !  i'll get busy and should be back shortly after lunch..
[19:48] <xrdodrx> It's just a few lines in xorg.conf, and you're welcome :D
[19:48] <xrdodrx> sometimes changes upstream makes are pretty weird :s
[21:04] <dubphil> Hello, I'm in big trouble with my xubuntu on a brand new laptop from Clevo, I must blacklist the jme net driver if I want stability. but I need some new paquages to install another jme driver. The problem is that synaptic is unable to load the cdrom because it has been already mounted with another name than "cdrom" what is the solution please ?
[21:05] <dubphil> the media is called "Xubuntu 11.04 amd64" I'm unable to unmount it ; it says device busy
[21:07] <boinkboink> GridCube, xrdodrx, & ubottu: thanks to the three of you for help w/ the middle mouse button issue. all fixed and tested in my primary app: blender..  i'll leave this up but, gonna have to go out and mow in a bit..
[21:08] <GridCube> ubottu, is a bot :D he is welcome to, as we are :D
[21:27] <xrdodrx> hi, I'm having a very weird problem that I can't seem to figure out how to fix...
[21:27] <xrdodrx> I can't get the Keyboard Layout Switcher applet to appear
[21:28] <xrdodrx> I have to keep setting them in Settings>Keyboard>Layout
[21:28] <xrdodrx> which is a royal pain
[21:28] <charlie-tca> known bug, I believe
[21:28] <xrdodrx> :(
[21:28] <xrdodrx> workaround?
[21:28] <charlie-tca> set them again in  Settings>Keyboard>Layout
[21:28] <charlie-tca> :-(
[21:29] <xrdodrx> :(
[21:29] <xrdodrx> interesting, Iĺl see what I can find
[21:29] <xrdodrx> also, that ĺ ś ŕ thing is why it annoys me lol
[21:29] <charlie-tca> good luck
[21:30] <charlie-tca> that is a different keyboard, right?
[21:30] <xrdodrx> It's US-International
[21:30] <charlie-tca> really?
[21:30] <xrdodrx> yes
[21:30] <charlie-tca> Mine doesn't do that
[21:30] <xrdodrx> I need it for spanish letters like ñ, é, á
[21:30] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:31] <charlie-tca> à é "n
[21:32] <charlie-tca> they aren't linked to the compose key?
[21:33] <charlie-tca> You do know you can set a compose key, right?
[21:36] <xrdodrx> charlie-tca, ?
[21:36] <xrdodrx> I found instructions for GNOME
[21:36] <xrdodrx> couldn't do it in xfce for some reason...
[21:38] <charlie-tca> I set it in /etc/default/keyboard, adding a line to what is there:
[21:38] <charlie-tca> XKBMODEL="pc105"
[21:38] <charlie-tca> XKBLAYOUT="us"
[21:38] <charlie-tca> XKBVARIANT="alt-intl"
[21:38] <charlie-tca> XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,compose:rwin"
[21:39] <xrdodrx> oh cool
[21:39] <xrdodrx> this makes the right alternate key the compose key?
[21:39] <charlie-tca> right windows key
[21:39] <charlie-tca> right alternate is level 3 key
[21:39] <xrdodrx> I only have one win key, which I use for other shortcuts
[21:39] <xrdodrx> I could switch out rwin for ralt_switch ?
[21:40] <charlie-tca> sure
[21:40] <xrdodrx> :D
[21:40] <xrdodrx> thanks
[21:40] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:40] <charlie-tca> Maybe it will help
[21:41] <xrdodrx> didn't seem to take effect
[21:41] <xrdodrx> is an X restart needed?
[21:41] <charlie-tca> probably
[21:42] <xrdodrx> I've been running it since Saturday though
[21:42] <xrdodrx> ;_;
[21:42] <xrdodrx> lol ok
[21:42] <xrdodrx> brb
[21:42] <charlie-tca> or we got something wrong :-(
[21:42] <xrdodrx> charlie-tca, I did
[21:42] <xrdodrx> XKBMODEL="pc105"
[21:42] <xrdodrx> XKBLAYOUT="us"
[21:42] <xrdodrx> XKBVARIANT="alt-intl"
[21:42] <xrdodrx> XKBOPTIONS="compose:ralt_switch"
[21:43] <xrdodrx> looks right to me?
[21:43] <charlie-tca> looks right
[21:46] <xrdodrx> charlie-tca, I feel I don't know what I'm doing
[21:46] <xrdodrx> or how to use it
[21:46] <xrdodrx> I press ralt, then ', then e, but the 'e does not appear
[21:46] <charlie-tca> é
[21:46] <charlie-tca> ?
[21:47] <xrdodrx> yes
[21:47] <charlie-tca> oh, crap
[21:47] <xrdodrx> Looking at the ubuntu wiki
[21:47] <xrdodrx> it looks like I really want a level 3 modifier
[21:47] <charlie-tca> I got it wrong then
[21:47] <xrdodrx> and not a compose key
[21:47] <charlie-tca> I press '   then    e    and it works
[21:47] <xrdodrx> ?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> to get a normal '    I have to hit it and space
[21:48] <charlie-tca> so, now you got me wondering, What the hell does the other two level keys do for me?
[21:48] <hatalar205> Hi
[21:48] <charlie-tca> !hi | hatalar205
[21:48] <hatalar205> I have just installed Xubuntu
[21:48] <hatalar205> and it works great
[21:48] <hatalar205> but I have a problem
[21:48] <charlie-tca> xrdodrx: I been doing it for so long, it never occurred to me it wasn't working right
[21:49] <charlie-tca> hatalar205: Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[21:50] <xrdodrx> I changed it to XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch"
[21:50] <xrdodrx> let's see what happens :)
[21:52] <xrdodrx> well, I give up I guess, nothing I do seems to have any effect on the keyboard :(
[21:52] <charlie-tca> file bug time?
[21:53] <xrdodrx> I thought the keyboard-layout switch applet was already a bug?
[21:53] <xrdodrx> That's the root of the issue
[21:53] <charlie-tca> it is
[21:53] <charlie-tca> about half a dozen, if I remember right?
[21:53] <xrdodrx> just will have to see if it's fixed in 11.10
[21:53] <xrdodrx> heh, yeah
[21:54] <charlie-tca> yeah, I know a couple of Xfce devs worked on it. Maybe it will get fixed.
[21:55] <xrdodrx> As far as the compose key goes
[21:55] <xrdodrx> it works for you, so it's probably just my own stupidity in the matter
[21:55] <charlie-tca> no, not so sure about that
[21:55] <charlie-tca> hatalar205: you going to tell us the actual problem, or should I guess?
[21:56] <xrdodrx> charlie-tca, I'll file a bug :)
[21:56] <charlie-tca> Okay, that works
[22:07] <xrdodrx> I can't seem to find the link to the xubuntu bug tracker
[22:08] <charlie-tca> use this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[22:22] <xrdodrx> charlie-tca, I'm not sure if I did this right: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/795749
[22:25] <charlie-tca> looks right to me
[22:25] <charlie-tca> Thanks for filing it
[23:39] <hatalar205> How can I install XBMC media center?
[23:40] <gr8m8> !info xbmc
[23:40] <gr8m8> !find xbmc
[23:40] <gr8m8> !info XBMC
[23:41] <hatalar205> What can I use as a media center in Xubuntu?
[23:41] <Sysi> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu,_a_Step-by-Step_Guide
[23:41] <hatalar205> Sysi it doesn't work I tried
[23:42] <Sysi> what part failed?
[23:42] <gr8m8> I use nfs mounts, mplayer and thunar for my media center
[23:42] <Unit193> !info mythbuntu-desktop
[23:43] <hatalar205> 404 or something like that "not found"
[23:43] <charlie-tca> Unit193: xbmc is not in any ubuntu repository
[23:43] <Sysi> seems there isn't ppa for 11.04 yet
[23:43] <hatalar205> Ok. Second question
[23:43] <Unit193> charlie-tca: He also asked what he can use as a media center
[23:44] <charlie-tca> oh
[23:44] <Unit193> (Or I read that wrong...)
[23:44] <charlie-tca> yup, mythbuntu or ubuntustudio?
[23:45] <Guest52825> hi :) , is there a line for questions?  or do i ask away?
[23:45] <hatalar205> go on
[23:45] <charlie-tca> Guest52825: Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[23:45] <charlie-tca> just throw it out there
[23:47] <Guest52825> I installed xubuntu on a celeron system and a 20 gb hdd.  i picked some auto partition during the install, and / was installed on a 2.2g partition.  when i tried to do an update, it said i didn't have enough info.  should i reinstall from scratch specifying paritions manually?>
[23:48] <charlie-tca> how much free space do you have on the drive?
[23:48] <Guest52825> it's a 20 gb drive.  i have outputs from parted and df if it helps.
[23:48] <Guest52825> it's just that the partition with / has little space left
[23:48] <charlie-tca> is it an empty 20gb drive, other than xubuntu?
[23:49] <Guest52825> yes
[23:49] <charlie-tca> Yes, reinstall using manual partition. Thanks for letting us know it did that.
[23:49] <Guest52825> thanks
[23:49] <charlie-tca> which release is that?
[23:50] <Guest52825> hehe...i was afraid of that question.  if i put the disc in my win 7 machine, would i be able to tell?
[23:50] <charlie-tca> never mind
[23:50] <Guest52825> sorry
[23:50] <charlie-tca> it's okay
[23:51] <Guest52825> thanks :)
[23:52] <hatalar205> When I install a program from terminal or Ubuntu Software Centre, during the downloading process I can't surf on the net. There three more computers on the network and they can't also.
[23:53] <hatalar205> Is there a way to limit its bandwit usage