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xavier_31Bonsoir. Première connection. Une question sur Oneiric (Kubuntu 11.10)  et Medibuntu. J'ai installé l'alpha1. RAS. Seulement pas de dépots Oneiric sur medibuntu comme dans le passé. Y a t il un changement? Merci pour votre réponse. A+. Xavier00:07
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ubottuxavier_31: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.00:08
OerHeksXavier, ubuntu 11.10 support in #Ubuntu+100:09
xavier_31Hello. First connexion on the IRC. Just a question about Oneiric (Kubuntu 11.10 alpha 1). Is there a medibuntu repository for Oneric soon or is there a change for medibuntu packages? Thanks for your answers. Xavier00:10
szal!oneiric00:10
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+100:10
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BluesKaj!ffmpeg00:39
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netsurf3_hey ladies and gents I have an inquiry on the stability of the kubuntu ppa for 10.04 is it likely to break or suffer from stability issues?01:04
netsurf3_!help01:05
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)01:05
netsurf3_ah good i can speak in the chan at least :)01:05
OerHekskubuntu ppa ?01:07
OerHeksi dont know what ppa personal package archive you mean, but updates from repository's go fast01:08
netsurf3_OerHeks, there is a ppa for lucid it only updates to 4.5 afaik01:30
netsurf3_OerHeks, this is what I am specifically refering to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+index?start=75&batch=7501:31
zarzarhello :)02:09
dedDeeti intend to tri-boot a netbook, Kubuntu, Windows 7 and Windows XP. what would be the best order to install them in to make sure they all boot fine?03:51
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Newbiathonyo, this is a bit off topic but here goes.....04:23
Newbiathonthere is this dude in my small town who is a scam artist trying to rip ppl off calling himself a doctor without med schoool. He is claiming to help people with with kids who have drug problems and all on his website, when his own son hates him and moved to Colorado to be a hippy and do drugs. Not only has he tried to sue the county for not getting a raise for a supervisor position, he has tried to sue a local mechanic for messing up04:27
Newbiathonhis 4-wheeler and lost the case of course... it goes on...04:27
LINKSWORD2Greetings, all.04:30
Newbiathonhis website claims he is certified (which he is not), pissing off a lot of "REAL" psychologist in the area, he is a avid hunter who kills life as much as he tries to promote it... I want to leave a review on his bogus site  calling him out but should i go through a proxy? This is a small town and what he is doing isn't right; However, I don't want my ip to be involved04:30
LINKSWORD2I'm in need of some... help...04:30
Newbiathonthink they are sleeping but i dunno04:31
anonbooLINKSWORD2, Yes you are.04:31
LINKSWORD2>.>04:31
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wildgooseheheh04:31
LINKSWORD2Well, let's start with the basics... I have cloned my Kubuntu install to a new harddrive using Clonezilla.04:32
LINKSWORD2However, Clonezilla created a partition, of the size of the old harddrive, onto the new harddrive.04:32
LINKSWORD2I want to extend the partition to the whole harddrive.04:32
LINKSWORD2You with me so far, wildgoose?04:35
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, Yes, that's not too complicated for me yet.04:36
LINKSWORD2xD04:36
LINKSWORD2I have access to many pieces of software, including G.Parted and CloneZilla, so if I need them, I can use them as well.04:37
wildgooseSo have you tried GParted yet?04:38
LINKSWORD2Yeah.04:39
wildgooseWhat was the problem?04:39
LINKSWORD2I can create a new partition in the unallocated space, but I cannot extend the existing partition that Kubuntu is already on.04:40
wildgooseLet me guess, you are booting from that partition and trying to edit it.04:40
LINKSWORD2That is the one I am trying to edit, yes,04:41
LINKSWORD2However... Shouldn't I be able to edit it if I'm using GParted?04:41
wildgooseCan you boot from a LiveCD and run a partition package from there?04:43
wildgoose(GParted)04:43
LINKSWORD2You mean a Kubuntu live CD?04:43
wildgooseSure.04:43
LINKSWORD2I'm not that good with Linux yet. Can you tell me in particular what I need to do?04:44
wildgooseno04:45
LINKSWORD2... Fail.04:45
wildgoosesorry couldn't help it.. Boot from liveCD then apt-get install gparted. In GParted you'll know what to do.04:46
SIR_Tacooooo04:46
LINKSWORD2What's up, SIR_Taco?04:47
SIR_Tacojust finished watching the hockey game... :)04:47
LINKSWORD2Bleh....04:47
wildgooseGive it a shot and let us know if you got it.04:48
LINKSWORD2All right. I'll be back in a bit.04:48
SIR_Tacowhat's the current problem?04:49
LINKSWORD2Oh, boy.... I forgot about this...04:50
LINKSWORD2My most recent Live Boot disk for Kubuntu is 10.10 (Maverick). Will I need a Live Boot for Natty, or will Maverick work?04:50
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, It will work fine.04:50
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: you can upgrade during or after the fact04:51
LINKSWORD2K04:52
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LINKSWORD2Hey wildgoose?05:02
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, How'd it go?05:20
ChaserBdaigleI need to know the command in terminal to see which video driver I am using please05:21
LINKSWORD2We're about to find out.05:22
ChaserBdaigleHiya Wildgoose its me again05:22
ubuntu__wildgoose: Permission to use /query ???05:29
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ChaserBdaiglehow can i tell which video driver my kubuntu 11.04 is using05:30
LINKSWORD2Chaser, 11.04 comes with a GREAT program called System Info.05:30
rvbhello , is it possible to open firefox, grab a webpage and execute all its js, all in command line?05:31
rvbnot necessarily ff, chrome maybe05:31
LINKSWORD2If you search for "Info" in the active search ChaserBdaigle, you can view its many benefits, and browse through hardware like your videocard and its related software.05:31
ChaserBdaigleim new where is active search05:32
iliashi all. i am running kde always in tray bar. if i logout or shutdown without previous quit of kmail i receive an akonandi issue and crash. has anyoen an idea how to solve this, because it is convienient to shutdown without qutinig kmail so whe i start again it running automatically again in tray.05:33
LINKSWORD2Chaser, press Alt + F1 together.05:33
LINKSWORD2Then type Info05:34
ChaserBdaiglealt + f1 opens my k menu05:35
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, No Joy?05:35
LINKSWORD2What, wildgoose?05:36
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, Were you able to partition your drive?05:36
ChaserBdaigleim in an old school menu05:36
LINKSWORD2... Nope, I wasn't.05:36
ChaserBdaigledo you happen to know the consol command to tell me the driver05:37
wildgooseChaserBdaigle, lsmod05:37
ChaserBdaiglethx05:37
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, Did you make sure to unmount the drive first?05:37
LINKSWORD2ChaserBdaigle: You're actuallu using the correct menu. I'm used to calling it an "Active Menu" because that's what I learned.05:37
LINKSWORD2wildgoose: Permission to /query ???05:38
ChaserBdaigledrm i guess would be the driver my video is using05:38
valorie!gparted05:40
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php05:40
ChaserBdaiglei need to make an xorg.conf file and am trying to find the right driver05:40
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ChaserBdaigleati 200m on a laptop05:41
Apple_CatChaserBdaigle: Why do you want to use xorg.conf ?05:41
valorieChaserBdaigle: drivers are available through systemsettings05:41
valorieor just "jockey-kde"05:41
ChaserBdaiglewell i am locked into one resolution and if i make an xorg.conf i can open up other display options for my screen res05:42
Apple_Cat!xorg.conf | ChaserBdaigle05:43
ubottuChaserBdaigle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution05:43
ChaserBdaiglei spent the day getting one stright on my other comp05:43
ChaserBdaigleyeah well thats like greek to me mostly05:43
ChaserBdaiglei  am a cut and paste kinda guy...lol05:43
ChaserBdaiglethe one i have is for a different driver so i wanted to find what driver i am using so i can edit05:44
ChaserBdaiglei spent the day on thoses sights reading i under stand some and other things have yet to figure out05:44
ChaserBdaiglebrb05:45
LINKSWORD2wildgoose: I need to talk to you one-on-one, and explain my situation further.05:45
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, Ok.05:47
ChaserBdaigleok i think im using the wrong driver and not the radeon ubuntu supplyed one how do i change that05:51
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LINKSWORD2Anybody know the default administrator password for a Live CD?05:58
LINKSWORD2!passwd06:02
rww!password06:03
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords06:03
rwwand the LiveCD account has a blank password iirc06:03
ChaserBdaiglehow do i tell if i have 3d acceleration06:10
ChaserBdaiglei have no desktop effects06:11
ChaserBdaigleits all greyed out06:11
ChaserBdaiglei do have the ati xorg drivers downloaded but not sure if they are being used06:12
Newbiathonwhat is a good firewall for kubuntu?06:41
XVampireXHi, I'm having some issues with the intel integrated graphics card, or maybe it is not the problem, but anyway, trying to watch an HD video, it runs REALLY slow, while the desktop, even though kde 4.6, which runs excellent...07:16
XVampireXwhat can I do about it? even windows handles hd fine for me07:17
meta__yo can i get some help07:20
phoenixlzxis there anybody using nvidia?07:31
phoenixlzxNvidia Quadro NVS4200M07:32
phoenixlzxI have a serious problem...07:32
phoenixlzxwhen i installed the Nvidia official driver and update the xorg.conf,then X says"no screen found"07:33
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himcesjfI'm getting following errors on adding kubuntu repository -ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports  :Failed to download http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources 404  Not Found Failed to download http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main i386 Packages 404  Not Found09:02
himcesjfHow do I fix it?09:02
himcesjfAnd, W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 2836CB0A8AC93F7A Launchpad Kubuntu Updates E: Error http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources 404 Not Found09:04
gr8m8404 not found means you asked the webserver for something that isn't there - check the web address09:05
gr8m8!launchpad09:05
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/09:05
himcesjfgr8m8: I get the error on adding backport ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports09:09
gr8m8I saw that himcesjf09:10
himcesjfSo, what's the problem on adding ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports ?09:11
himcesjfAs far as I remember, its mentioned in the Kubuntu website as well09:11
himcesjfhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa says the same thing gr8m809:16
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gr8m8I don't use ppa's here at all09:17
gr8m8!ppa09:17
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.09:17
himcesjfIts easy to pull ubuttu bot for known queries than to say on the error09:18
cousin_mariohello09:57
cousin_marioHow do I change the default boot entry on grub2? I tried setting GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/defaul/grub and giving a sudo update-grub, but it didn't work.09:57
lcbhell'all10:07
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footroothello10:23
footroot?10:23
himcesjfcousin_mario: You shall consider setting /boot/grub/grub.cfg wherein the "default" would be set to 0 by default at installation, booting the kernel(In *nix, counting starts with zero). If you want to make any other entry as default, you will have to change the deafult value. For example, changing to second entry means inputting "default" as 1.10:23
himcesjfcousin_mario: Edit the file as sudo after changing the permissions since its read-only by default as - sudo chmod u+w grub.cfg before editting and sudo chmod u-w grub.cfg later. Else, you can try package 'startupmanager' which can graphically configure Grub.10:25
cousin_mariohimcesjf: the default in /boot/grub/grub.cf is set to what I want10:26
cousin_mariohimcesjf: by the way, it says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" in the header10:26
himcesjfYou said you want to change the default boot entry...10:27
cousin_mariohimcesjf: I did.10:28
szalGrub defaults are set in /etc/default/grub10:28
szaliirc, grub.cfg says so too10:28
cousin_marioproblem is it's not working10:28
himcesjfIf so, the file to edit is /etc/default/grub10:28
himcesjfYou have to change the value of GRUB_DEFAULT10:29
himcesjfGRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true10:29
himcesjfsudo update-grub10:29
himcesjf*If* you want the default to be the last one used, set this to true10:29
himcesjfcousin_mario: Are you on multi-boot system?10:30
himcesjfI mean multiple OS and want to boot a particular one10:31
himcesjfcousin_mario: startupmanager can be used if you don't want to try command-line.10:35
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cousin_mariohimcesjf: I tried both methods, /boot/grub/grub.cfg is set to the correct default, yet the system boots with entry 011:44
himcesjfcousin_mario: Did you edit the file after changing permissions and then saving it?11:57
cousin_mariohimcesjf: I didn't edit it at all, update-grub took care of it already11:58
himcesjfcousin_mario: Try startupmanager. I've told you how to edit above.. Sorry, I need to go.11:58
cousin_mariohimcesjf: I tried it already11:59
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kevinBHello dudes and SOS13:29
kevinBis there a way I can revert last update on Kwin13:29
kevinBI suspect it + fglrx to make my laptop totally unusable13:30
kevinBand when I ran kwin --replace , it worked again for 5 sec and then stuck13:30
kevinBfortunatly a konsole is launch at each update13:30
kevinBeven sudo reboot wont suceed13:30
kevinBmayday13:31
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marcelmoin13:35
kevinBamdcccle was the guy who screwed my xorg conf, naughty ati13:37
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alex_hi guys ,  I got a problem updating kubuntu ..., like always it doesn't start anymore ..., after the login nothing ...., there is something to do or just reinstall !?!14:05
alex_I mean it's quite a bad thing the pop-up saying update to the new version , when after that you cannot anymore accees your system ..., isn't14:06
OttovonBismarckcan anyone tell me what "always list the applications in a menu" checkbox does in the current application control plasmoid14:07
OttovonBismarckgoogle doesnt know and i dont notice any difference14:07
OttovonBismarckYour search - "currrent application control" plasmoid -bug - did not match any documents.14:09
BluesKajHiyas14:09
OttovonBismarckthis is amusing to me14:09
OttovonBismarckoops, one too many r's14:10
errornoob here.. need some help14:25
errorjust installed kubuntu14:25
errori do not have an browser.. trying to figure out how to get one. I have the cd but i do not know where to go?14:26
errorhelp anyone?14:26
marxjohnsonerror: Have you just installed Kubuntu?14:26
marxjohnsonsorry14:26
marxjohnsonI just read that you did14:27
erroryes,14:27
marxjohnsonThere's a browser installed by default called "ReKonq"14:27
errori installed it about a week ago14:27
marxjohnsonIt should be in your K menu14:27
errork.. menu.. humm14:27
errorthe menu on bottom left14:27
error?14:27
marxjohnsonyes14:27
errork menu, applications14:27
marxjohnsonThen Internet I think14:28
errori do not see it in internet14:28
marxjohnsonhold on14:28
marxjohnsonlet me switch my menu back to default mode14:28
errorthanks for the help14:28
marxjohnsonand i'll tell you14:28
errori hate feeling like a tard but im trying to break away from microsoft.14:28
marxjohnsonOK, so what do you see when you click on the Applications tab?14:29
error1 sec14:29
errorgraphics, multimedia, internet14:30
marxjohnsonThere, click in Internet14:30
erroroffice, settings, system14:30
marxjohnsonand what do you get?14:30
oCeanin the searchbox you could also type browser14:30
errorbittorrent client,14:30
errora search gives me a thing that says how to configure browser14:31
errorbut no luck yet14:31
errorno browser in internet applications14:31
errorstrange14:31
marxjohnsonstrange, it looks like it didn't install correclty14:31
oCeanthat is weird, I'm on a fresh install myself14:32
errori have the cd in the cd rom14:32
marxjohnsonok hold on a sec14:32
errorhow would i go about getting it off the cd?  .... ok.. thx14:32
marxjohnsonAh yes, sorry14:33
marxjohnsonIn the menu's seach box, type "Software"14:33
marxjohnsonDo you see either Ubuntu Software Center or KPackageKit?14:34
error1 sec14:34
errorkpackage14:34
marxjohnsonOK, click on that14:34
marxjohnsonAnd there should be a "Search Packages" box, type Firefox in there14:35
errorcan do14:35
marxjohnsonThen select Firefox Web Browser and click Install14:35
errorthink im good.. download14:37
errormarx... thanks for your help14:37
marxjohnsonno problem14:37
errorim a 5 min old linux user.14:37
error:)14:37
marxjohnsonThat's how you download and install all software btw14:37
errorthanks for the help14:38
errorim starting to like this os14:38
marxjohnsonno problem, hope you enjoy Kubuntu¬14:38
marxjohnson!14:38
errorout of curosity14:38
marxjohnsonthat's not bad after 5 mins ;-)14:38
marxjohnsongo on14:38
errorwhat is the advantages of kubuntu over other linux distros?14:38
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errorim going to stick w/ kubuntu14:38
errorbut just wondering14:38
Deet`error: personal prefrence here14:39
cablopkubuntu is the same as ubuntu, but you use KDE as gui14:39
errorwhats kde?14:39
Deet`tho i do use xubuntu and crunchbang on lower spec machines14:39
errorah14:39
marxjohnsonKDE is the desktop environment you use on Kubuntu14:39
Deet`error: kde is what you are looking at when you use kubuntu ;)14:39
errorah14:39
cablopKDE the graphical interface and some other things14:39
errori see14:39
errorits similiar to windows yet alien14:40
cablopnope14:40
errori spent a good 5 min trying to find out where the hell the cd rom was14:40
Deet`i also have a question14:40
cablopKDE is a gui it is being placed on top the linux system14:40
BluesKajerror,open the kmenu >apps>internet>firefox installer , choose that and firefox will install on your pc14:40
Deet`i intend to tri-boot a netbook, Kubuntu, Windows 7 and Windows XP. what would be the best order to install them in to make sure they all boot fine?14:40
errorwell, similiar as in the k bar is on the bottom left14:40
marxjohnsonDeet`: I'd install Kubuntu last14:40
cabloperror, windows gui is much moe integrated with the system, KDE runs on top a linux that can run without a gui at all14:41
errorahhh14:41
errorlearning learning14:41
Deet`marxjohnson: ok, any thoughts on the windows order?14:41
marxjohnsonerror: which means you can have differnt GUIs, if that's your preference14:41
errori see14:41
cablopthe default gui of ubuntu is gnome (well they switched to that crap called unity in the latest release)14:41
cablopxubuntu uses xfce as gui14:42
errorI do a lot of investing and i can already tell the lower system requirements might be pretty nice for my multitasking14:42
BluesKajerror, did you install Firefox ?14:42
cablopyou are going to like KDE14:42
marxjohnsonDeet`: Not at all if possible ;-)  TBH I'm not sure though, I've never done a dual-boot windows setup, but I'd say that doing the oldest then the newest should be a safe bet14:42
errori have taken a quad core 3.2 gig, 8 gig ddr 3, to 75% utilization w/ my investing programs14:42
erroryes, i have firefox thanks guys!!14:42
BluesKajok'14:43
Deet`ok marxjohnson i'll give that a shot14:43
cablopi'm still in gnome, because it is running better in my netbook, and i don't have the time to relearn or readapt the little machine to KDE14:43
cablopbut i see KDE is the way to go after that nonsensical gnome3 or that weird thing called unity14:43
* Deet` is actually probably going to go with xfce or crunchbang on hos netbook14:43
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BluesKajerror, now are you interested in multimedia , video, music etc ?14:43
marxjohnsoncablop: I've tried KDE netbook, I don't like it as much as the old Ubuntu Netbook Launcher14:44
chonlateehow to config browser render smooth font ?14:44
errori have this little laptop as well and i was loath to put win 7 on it as i knew it would bog it down. slapped a 30 gig OCZ SSD in it and kubuntu and its very fast now. :)14:44
cablopmarxjohnson: i don't use those stripped netbook guis14:44
cablopi used a full KDE and a full Gnome on it14:44
errorwhats a gnome?14:44
cablopi told you14:45
marxjohnsonerror: GNOME is another GUI14:45
cablopgnome is the default ubuntu gui14:45
errorah14:45
errorthx14:45
marxjohnsonit's the primarly alternative to KDE14:45
errorthis is fucking awesome.14:45
marxjohnson:D14:45
marxjohnsonooh are we supposed to keep it clean in here?14:45
marxjohnsonI should probably ask you not to swear14:46
errorsorry.. excitement.. plus my profession we curse a lot.14:46
cablopi have to say i was running this netbook with full disk encryption, as gui i used gnome+compiz and KDE=KWin both with effects like wobbly windows and the desktop cube and it does run pretty nice14:46
errorlol14:46
errorim a soldier.14:46
cablopLOL14:46
errorim on 24 hour guard duty right now.14:46
erroryes, guarding the barracks against the evil of the world... lol...14:47
dbc254what's amiss when you click on a url in your mail client and instead of going to the page, your browser goes to /var/tmp/????14:47
marxjohnsondbc254: Are you sure it's a link to the web and not an attachement?14:47
cablopDeet except if your netbook is arm or ee... ee whatever, use gnome or kde as gui, current netbooks are full computers with small screen14:47
dbc254yes it's not an attachment14:48
marxjohnsoncablop: The whole point of netbook-specific guis is that they're for a small screen :-)14:48
marxjohnsonnot that they need less resources14:48
marxjohnsonKDE netbook is still as flashy as ever, it's just geared towards a small display14:49
cablopmarxjohnson: that unity placed a panel on top i cannot remove or edit and a menu at the left i cannot hide or remove... with gnome classic i put ot top a common panel with autohide, and at bottom a AWN dock that autohides too, things that way i use the full screen for any app iḿ using at the moment14:49
cablopsame with KDE... if i were using an ipad... well that thing will suit me14:50
cabloperror, if you have sometime i recommend you to check the full disk encryption topic, it is pretty interesting14:51
marxjohnsonyes that's true, I've never found the top panel an issue myself but I see  your point14:51
BluesKajerror, for multimedia , install kubuntu-restricted-extras14:52
cablopalso vlc media player14:52
cablopwelll.... now my question14:54
BluesKajI'm testing xbmc on 11.10 and it seems to be working well, altho VLC is still set as the default for video and audio file extns14:54
cablopwhat is recommended for windows live mesenger? i was trying that kmess, nbut fails to connect14:54
marxjohnsoncablop: Kopete14:54
chonlateeKopete is the best14:54
cablopi never got to understand kopete...14:54
marxjohnsonit's just a multi-protocol messenger like Pidgin14:54
marxjohnsonor Trillian14:55
BluesKajcablop, AMSN might work14:55
cablopoooooooohhhhh noooooo xD14:55
chonlateeemesene14:55
cablopnah, emesene depends on papyon library that fails a lot if you use wireless14:56
cablopmarxjohnson: trillian? how tril;lian in linux?14:56
AterusHello everyone. I'm new whn it comes to Linux and i have a major problem.14:57
BluesKajaims aren't my thin anyway14:57
marxjohnsoncablop: I dont think you can, except perhaps through WINE, I was just giving an example to explain what Kopete is like14:57
AterusI've switched from Ubuntu Gnome to Fedora14:57
BluesKajask away Aterus14:57
cablopaaaa14:57
Aterusgot bored of that and switched to Kubuntu14:57
chonlateegood choice14:57
cablopaham, and the problem is...14:57
Aterusnow when i tried to login i get an error saying that my saved gnome sessions is no longer valid14:58
cablopwell, if you are in kubuntu the session is kde14:58
Aterusi tried choose "Default" session, KDE Plasma worspace session and still thesame14:58
Aterusnothing changes, i get the same message14:58
cablopinstall gnome for a little moment14:58
cablopthen enter and fix the gnome issues, log out then log in kde14:59
chonlateei use gnome before14:59
chonlateenow i use kubuntu14:59
chonlateei love kde14:59
Aterusbut what is this exact issue?14:59
BluesKajAterus, perhaps a pure kde solution is in order... do you have a / and /home separate partitions15:00
BluesKaj?15:00
Aterusyes. I suspect the setting left over from my previous Ubuntu+Gnome installation are causing this15:00
tsimpsonlook in ~/ for "hidden" files/folders related to GTK/GNOME15:00
tsimpsonI guess remove them15:00
cablophuh weird to see that amsn still around15:01
cablopsigh15:01
sithlord48Aterus:  i would backup and then remove ~/.gnome and ~/.kde and give it a go that way15:01
chonlateeagree with tsimpson15:01
sithlord48and btw morning all15:01
Aterusok, i'll have to boot in to a Live CD for this. I'll give a shout how it all goes. Thanks everyone15:02
chonlateewhat your favorite music player15:02
tsimpson!poll | chonlatee15:02
ubottuchonlatee: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.15:02
tsimpsonbut it's amarok of course15:02
BluesKajcablop, it's not weird , it's surprising how many ppl still use XP and need MSN15:03
cablopwell XP was much better than vista15:03
BluesKajno argument there15:04
tsimpsonno, XP was less bad than vista15:04
cablopbut amsn.....15:04
BluesKajtsimpson, :)15:04
cablopnah, xp is one of the few gfood os from ms15:05
BluesKajW7 is less bad than the rest then15:05
cablopand 7 is good too15:05
cablopit depends in your criteria15:05
sithlord48idk 7 reminds me way to much of a kde interface...15:06
marxjohnsonsithlord48: and that's a bad thing? :-)15:06
sithlord48marxjohnson: yes , there seams to be old kde4 bugs too.. like plasma-desktop showing up in the Fancy window switcher..15:07
sithlord48that has me worried..15:07
BluesKajI've resisted the temptation to install W7 just for netflix , but I see rumours about chrome/chromium handling netflix natively soon15:07
cjohnstonapachelogger: ping15:08
apacheloggercjohnston: pong15:08
cjohnstonapachelogger: I see that more of the blueprints have been accepted, however they still arent showing up as they aren't in the proper format15:08
apacheloggercjohnston: #kubuntu-devel15:09
errorwhat version of flash do i need ? http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/15:12
sithlord48error. sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer <- run in konsole15:12
errorhummm15:13
sithlord48thats the "proper" way to dl it from adobe's site :P15:13
errorim a noob.15:13
errorno idea how to get to console15:13
sithlord48its ok were here to help15:13
erroris that the K bar?15:13
sithlord48k menu .15:14
errorok.. i know where thats at15:14
chonlateeor alt+f215:14
chonlateeand typed terminal15:14
tsimpsonyou don't need to use the console15:14
BluesKajchonlatee, pls one thingat a time15:14
sithlord48no type in konsole15:14
errorah15:14
tsimpsonit's in the normal package manager15:14
sithlord48well it really don't matter one is its name and one its descrtption you can can use either to find it :D15:15
sithlord48error:  please close browsers first15:15
cablopthe problem with kopete is15:16
cablopit is not placing an icon in my tray15:16
chonlateecablop, you can cuztomize it.15:17
cablopwhere?15:18
cablopah, i mean in my gnome tray15:18
cablopin kde works nice15:18
BluesKajcablop, do you have any system trays enabled ?15:18
cablopbut i thought the trays were universal15:18
cablopi have trays15:18
cablopone tray15:18
BluesKajcablop, we don't support gnome here15:18
cablopmmm15:19
cablopbut i'm talking about the tray15:19
cablopisn't that a standard?15:19
tsimpsonno15:19
tsimpsonyou'd think, but not15:19
tsimpsonand in Gnome is't really the "system notification area" rather than the "system tray"15:19
tsimpsonfreedesktop.org is working on a standard though, I think...15:20
Ateruscan anyone shine a light on how to delete file/folder from a home folder using live CD?15:21
tsimpsonyou don't need to use the live CD for that15:22
tsimpsonbut if you insist, mount your /home partition somewhere and delete as normal, but from the mounted location15:23
Ateruswell i can't log in to Kubuntu normaly or in to safe mode15:23
Aterusright...well it was automatically mounted15:24
Ateruswhen i log in to the Live CD15:24
Aterusbut it doesn't allow to delete anything15:24
tsimpsonyou'll want to become root, as your user doesn't exist on the live session15:25
Aterusin command line?15:25
tsimpsonso use "kdesudo dolphin" for GUI, or just "sudo -i" for a console shell15:26
Aterusis gconf folder also part of gnome?15:28
tsimpsonyes15:28
tsimpsongconf is the system gnome uses to store settings/configuration15:29
Ateruswell i got 5 folders removed that relate to gnome. Hopefully it worked.15:29
elkngthere was strange DE in 10.11 is it the same in 11.04 ?15:30
cablopok, kopete icon is working now15:31
elkngthere was only one big menu not like KDE with "K" button in left bottom corner, but many big buttons around desktop15:31
elkngis it the same in 11.04 ?15:31
elknglike in 3.5.x15:32
elkngand in 10.11 panel was at the top, strange15:32
elknglike in GNOME15:32
elkngit was trouble some to use it =)15:33
elkngwhat kind of DE in 11.04, how it looks like ? is panel with button "K" at the bottom ?15:34
tsimpsonit should always be at the bottom15:34
tsimpsonand should always have been15:34
tsimpsonunless maybe you're talking about the netbook interface, I haven't really seen much of it15:35
elkngbut in 10.11 it was at the top, and many big buttons for fast running applications was at the center, this was very strange15:35
BluesKajelkng, I'm running 11.10 on a desktop pc and all normal, the same as 11.0415:36
elkng"netbook" <- yea, I installed it on netbook, maybe it was it15:36
tsimpsonyou can change back to the "desktop" interface if you want, though I'm on 10.04 so I don't remember how15:37
elkngso is it change interface and behaviour in netbook ?15:37
elkngok, how to change to "it on netbook, maybe it was it"15:37
elkngok, how to change to "desktop" interface ?15:37
tsimpsonlook in System Settings, it'll probably be there somewhere15:39
cablopis there any kopete ppa out there?15:40
tsimpsonmaybe in Workspace Appearance15:40
elkngnow mistery is solved =), it was first time I loaded kubuntu since 7.04, and it was quite frustrating15:40
elkngthanks15:41
Aterustsimpson - no luck, but i found something that might be a clue. When i try to login normally, i get this error message: Kstartupconfig does not exist or fials. The error code is  Check your isntallation@15:41
tsimpsonAterus: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, you seem to be missing some programs15:42
cablopok it seems there's no kopete ppa15:42
Aterushow can that be done? i mean i installed from live CD, i expected it to have everything...15:43
tsimpsoncablop: kopete is part of kdenetwork, which is a part of the KDE SC release15:43
Aterusjust a hunch15:43
Ateruswould it be wise to delete everything on the home drive appart from my personal files15:43
Aterusand then reinstall15:43
cabloptsimpson: then...15:43
tsimpsonAterus: chroot into your installation and make sure it's installed15:44
tsimpsoncablop: so you won't find a PPA with "kopete", but "kdenetwork". like one of the Kubuntu PPAs15:44
Aterusa bit more giudance? im confused about this chroot deal...15:45
cablopah i see, then kdenetwork ppa15:45
tsimpson!kppa15:45
ubottuKubuntu has several different PPA's for those who want to test or upgrade to the latest version. More information on the available Kubuntu PPA's can be found here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs15:45
cablopthanks :)15:45
Aterustsimposon - can you by any chance give a bit more guidance on this one. I'm still poorly versed with the intricated workings of Linux...what is this dal with chroot?15:47
tsimpsonAterus: mount your root system somewhere, if it's not already mounted. then use "sudo chroot /where/it/mounted", then you will be running inside your installed system15:47
tsimpsonyou can then use apt-get as normal15:47
Aterusoh. ok15:48
QuintasanI recommend doing mount -o bind /dev /where/it/mounted/dev beforehand15:48
cablopi'll stick with normal repos then15:50
cablopthanks15:50
cablopsee ya15:50
securityxxxpert_Anybody having issues with their box locking up entirely when trying to download files with firefox on Kububuntu 11.0415:51
Aterushow can i know if it worked? i go a 'bach: no job control in this shell' response15:51
tsimpsonAterus: do you see a prompt?15:54
Aterusnot really, under the bash response there is nothing15:54
tsimpsondo any commands work, like "ls"?15:54
Aterusno, just drops me to the next line15:55
tsimpsonok, try pressing Ctrl-D or Ctrl-C to drop back out15:55
Aterusi tried running apt-get in a new tab15:55
tsimpsona new tab won't start in the chroot15:55
Aterusok Ctrl+C did the trick15:56
Aterusdoes this mean the chroot command worked or did i loose it?15:57
tsimpsonit must have failed15:58
tsimpsonAterus: try running each of these commands in sequence to get to a chroot session http://paste.ubuntu.com/624389/15:59
Aterusi added kdesudo before chroot, because running it without is says that operation is not permitted15:59
BluesKajsecurityxxxpert_, what kinds of files?15:59
tsimpsonchanging /dev/my_root and /mnt where appropriate15:59
kevin_bHello guys!16:01
kevin_bDo some of you get a mouse bug ?16:01
kevin_bwhich can only be soved by log out and log in again16:01
kevin_beven kwin  --replace is a workaround only for 5 secs16:02
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj: Any to my knowledge.16:02
BluesKajsecurityxxxpert_, have you tried using a different browser ?16:03
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj: Yeah that works fine.  Just wondering if it can be addressed with firefox16:04
BluesKajthen it's a FF bug , which version , securityxxxpert_ ?16:05
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj: stand by16:09
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj: 4.0.116:09
BluesKajsecurityxxxpert_, and what kubuntu version ?16:12
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj:  11.0416:13
BluesKajhmm, FF version 5 is in the repos I believe , perhaps time to upgrade16:13
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj:  I will try that and let you know16:15
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj: I am not seeing Firefox 516:16
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj:  How did you update yours16:17
BluesKajI'm on11.10 , but i;m quite 4.01 needs an upgrade to 4.6 or some such16:18
BluesKajsure16:18
DarthFrogI note that KDE SC 4.64 is in the Kubuntu repos today.16:19
BluesKajyup. DarthFrog ..have it on my other box16:20
BluesKajhmm securityxxxpert_ , strange 4.01 is the default FF on 11.0416:21
BluesKajsecurityxxxpert_, do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed ?16:23
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj: Not sure.  Recently converted from Gnome16:24
BluesKajwell then ubuntu-restricted-extras , is basically the same , securityxxxpert_16:24
BluesKaj!kubuntu-restricted-extras16:25
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:25
securityxxxpert_BluesKaj: Thanks for your help, I guess I will just use a diff browser to download stuff.  PITA, but it works16:27
BluesKajnot sure exactly , but could the lack of plugins somehow crash /freeze his pc when trying to DL with a browser16:28
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BluesKajsecurityxxxpert_, you could always use wget to DL stuff from sites16:28
BluesKaj!wget16:29
BluesKaj!info wget16:29
ubottuwget (source: wget): retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.12-2.1ubuntu2 (natty), package size 251 kB, installed size 552 kB16:29
BluesKajsecurityxxxpert_, in   the konsole you type wget , then the URL or address of the app and it will down load to your /home/user/downlods by default16:30
tsimpsonwget will download to the current directory by default16:31
BluesKajyoutube-dl is another cli app that does it16:32
BluesKajtsimpson, yes, I stand corrected16:32
BluesKajand curl as well16:32
RVNwhy is 11.04 a piece of crap. Even after a clean install, everything is broken.16:34
BluesKajyoutube-dl works with youtube flash only afaik16:34
BluesKajRVN, nice statement , maybe if you had a question ?16:35
RVN*why is 11.04 a piece of crap?16:35
RVNso buggy16:36
RVNdoesn't mount drives properly, can't seek in progress bar when playing music anywhere16:36
RVNeven the screensaver freezes16:37
RVNand much more16:37
RVN..hangs on shutdown16:37
RVNrandomly16:37
soeeRVN, works perfect for me16:37
RVNweird16:37
soeeRVN, did you upgraded ?16:37
RVNfirst I upgraded16:38
RVNbut it was broken16:38
RVNthen I did a clean install16:38
RVNstill bad16:38
soeeati/nvidia ?16:38
RVNintel16:38
soeeah never used intetl, but there were some problems with intels i think16:39
RVNya but there are so many other problems16:40
RVN10.10 was fine16:40
RVN11.04 is just bad16:40
BluesKajRVN, in the konsole , sudo lshw -C video , look at the product line16:41
soeewell i was running 11.04 with uniny 2 months ago and for me it was slow, but after switch to Kubuntu all works fine and fast16:41
RVNMobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller16:42
soeei love Muon Package Manager :D16:44
BluesKajRVN, this might help you : http://ubuntuku.org/31/bugs-fix-kubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-kwin-crashes-when-opengl-screensaver-exits/16:47
RVNok16:50
RVNi guess i gotta restart16:50
RVNwhatever16:53
RVNno difference16:53
BluesKajRVN, look in the kmenu > apps>settings> additional drivers ...is there a recommended driver ?17:00
RVNnope17:01
RVNempty17:01
RVNanyways, the main problem is seeking the progress bar when playing music17:02
RVNthat's what pisse sme off the most17:02
RVNI read it had something to do with phonon17:03
RVNalso copying mounting the mp3 player17:03
RVNand copying my music to it doesn't work like it used to17:03
BluesKajRVN, check if you have pulseaudio installed, also open alsamixer in the konsole and make sure all ctrls are turned up ...pulseaudio is ok if you have a pci soundcard installed with fancy oprions , otherwise it's redundant17:10
RVNBlesKaj, pulseaudio is installed17:11
BluesKajRVN, also install kubuntu-restricted-extras for multimedia codecs and plugins including flash and java17:11
RVNI did17:11
RVNlol17:12
BluesKajok remove pulseaudio and setup phonon in system settings>multimedia17:12
BluesKajthat's quite bit to do so I'll leave you to it for a few mins17:13
RVNwhat is GStreamer17:13
RVN?17:13
RVNi have gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio installed17:13
RVNalong with pulseaudio17:14
RVNand in the multimedia settings i only see phonon17:14
BluesKajjust remove pulseaudio for now17:14
BluesKajclick on phonon17:14
BluesKajhi Daskreech :)17:16
RVNBluesKaj, so what do I do with phonon exactly17:16
RVN?17:16
DaskreechHello BluesKaj17:16
Daskreechhoware you?17:16
BluesKajgood thanks Daskreech , and you ?17:17
BluesKajlook at the list of devices in music , check them for sounds using the test button17:18
DaskreechBluesKaj: Very tired and rushed17:18
BluesKajDaskreech, bummer :(17:18
DaskreechHow are you?17:19
BluesKajfine thanks17:19
BluesKajRVN, I'll repeat , look at the list of devices in music , check them for sounds using the test button17:22
BluesKajin phonon17:22
DaskreechBluesKaj: Good :)17:24
RVNBluesKaj, there's a bunch of devices and they pretty much all work except for the HDMI because I don't have anything connected HDMI17:24
BluesKajRVN, yup that's normal , test your speakers with this command in the konsole as a final test:  speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav17:27
RVNBluesKaj, it works but I don't have a problem with the sound17:29
RVNit's seeking the progress bar17:29
RVNin amarok or any player17:29
RVNmost of the time it doesn't allow me to17:30
BluesKajtry vlc17:30
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ubuntu_userI have a dell studio 1735 w/ an Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-7640S HD16 on /dev/sr0 and I'm looking for a good cd->mp3 ripper. Any suggestions?17:50
* BluesKaj wonders why ppl still rip to mp3 , even the cheapest players can hold a thousand lossless songs17:53
errorhow do i install flash on kubuntu? im a noob17:55
erroro wait.. maybe previous msg traffic.17:56
BluesKajerror, earlier I mentioned you should install kubuntu-restricted-extras , it contains all the needed codecs and plugins for media and browsers17:57
errorhow do i do this?17:57
BluesKajubuntu_user, try acidrip17:57
BluesKajerror, open a konsole in the kmenu>apps>system17:59
errorthx18:00
BluesKajerror, then type or copy and paste , sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras18:00
errorok, i found it and clicked it and is it supposed to do anything.. pop up or a confirmation/18:02
error?18:02
BluesKajdi you copy and paste what I posted above , then enter18:05
errorhumm ok.. ill go test it in a sec18:05
errorgetting an nvidia driver18:06
errorok, system, apps, paste sudo apt-get install kubuntu, -restricted-extras  , ok,, i see it then i click it and it just minimizes18:09
errorso is it installing?18:09
ubuntu_userBluesKaj: Thanks, but that appears to be strictly for dvd's...18:09
errorforgive me if im a bit slow here guys.. ive been up since 8 am working and its now 2:10 AM and im STILL working.18:10
errorthe joys of 25 hour guard duty.18:10
errorbrb18:11
PiotrNI get "Failed to download http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main amd64 Packages 404  Not Found", is there something wrong with repos ?18:12
erroranother noob question18:14
PiotrN though uppon further inspection, the repo was read...18:14
errorif i right click an empty space to bring up a menu and then i left click off to the side to close it , it will make this concrete looking shattering effect. how do i turn this off?18:15
BluesKajubuntu_user, user well, check in your package manager ..there's plenty to choose from18:15
errori just want menus to close,, not shatter into pieces and go away18:15
PiotrNtry in your system settins -> effects -> and there browse all effects tab18:16
errorroger.. thank you18:16
PiotrNi'm Piotr, not roger... ;)18:16
PiotrNnot Roger*18:17
ubuntu_userBluesKaj: right. have been doing that. just a little confused as to why my dying desktop with failing hardware has been quicker and more reliable about ripping than my new-ish lapotp.18:18
errorah much better18:19
BluesKajwell, gotta go ...later18:21
disposablewhen i try to mount a nfs v3 share (rw,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) from a freshly installed natty (with -o users,auto,vers=3), all i get is "rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking". when i try to start stat.d, i get "Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing". statd isn't running and can't be started, setting "NEED_STATD=yes" in /etc/default/nfs-common does not start it either when i try to mount. mounting with "-o nolock" w18:55
errorhow do you open a tar.gz file?18:58
disposableerror: from commandline by typing "tar xvzf file.tar.gz"18:59
errorhummm19:00
disposableerror: if you need gui, use Ark19:00
errorwhats ark?19:01
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disposableerror: just do a right-click on the archive and select Extract here.19:08
errork19:08
phoenixfhi everybody19:15
phoenixfI'm new user19:15
phoenixfand19:15
phoenixfneed fax program19:15
phoenixfany body knows19:15
DarthFrogphoenixf:  Have a look at Hylafax.19:15
phoenixfa fax program name19:15
phoenixfit didnt work19:15
phoenixfor ı can isntall19:15
phoenixfı can not istall19:16
michaelHi19:19
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Linkmasterhey19:21
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PiotrNkdepim 4.6 is not in repos ? kde updated itself to 4.6.4, but pim stays at 4.4.6, i though it was released with the .4 update21:11
PiotrNin fact, most kdepim apps and libs are on 4.4.421:11
yofelPiotrN: we're still working on PIM 4.6, and for natty it's not something we can put into -updates so you'll probably see it in the backports PPA soon21:19
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PiotrNyofel: thanks, i'm looking forward to it :)21:21
Guest72538hi friends21:22
Guest72538I am newer here21:23
OerHekshi Guest7253821:25
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alivePerson1234im having trouble using kdevelop, lines like #include <KApplication> can't find the right include files, should i have added more paths to .bashrc or something?21:29
mick-mickhallo friends21:31
mick-mickis there anybody there?21:32
alivePerson1234sure21:33
mick-mickoh! that's good21:33
mick-mickI am alive too21:33
alivePerson1234:)21:33
mick-mick:)21:33
mick-mickI am testing this new version of kubuntu21:34
mick-mickhi manifold21:36
alivePerson1234i think ill upgrade to the new version right now actually21:37
mick-mickwhich version do you use, alive?21:38
alivePerson12344.6.2 and im upgrading to 4.6.421:38
mick-mickis it Ubuntu?21:38
alivePerson1234yes21:38
mick-mickbut I use 9.0421:38
alivePerson123411.04 here21:38
mick-mickin my job I use 11.04 server21:39
alivePerson1234ive never played with server versions, but i do have plenty of server-side things21:40
mick-mickyou may be have a lot of experience in Linux, isn't it, Alive?21:41
mick-mickI am newer on LInux21:41
alivePerson1234idk, compared to what is the question lol21:41
mick-mickI work with VB in Linux - Wine21:42
alivePerson1234that sounds horrible21:42
mick-mickyes, it is21:42
alivePerson1234using your ide in wine just... no!21:42
mick-mickmy boss likes vb621:44
mick-mickall the is made in vb621:44
mick-mick*system21:44
alivePerson1234i was trying to get kdevelop to work right now, #include <kapplication> and other lines like that aren't working21:45
n4rcohi21:45
alivePerson1234hi21:45
mick-mickkdevelop is like monodevelop?21:45
mick-mickhi n4rco21:45
alivePerson1234its another ide, like eclipse21:46
mick-mickfor java21:46
mick-mick?21:46
alivePerson1234its for a lot of things, like c++ usually, netbeans is java21:46
mick-mickI am beginning C#21:46
mick-micknice to meet you, alive21:47
alivePerson1234yup21:47
alivePerson1234my update is going at 100kb/s :'(21:48
mick-mickyup? what does it mean? (pardon, my english lack)21:48
mick-mickah21:48
alivePerson1234it means i agree that it is nice to meet me lol21:48
mick-mickah!21:48
mick-mickok21:48
mick-micknow I am going to back the studies21:49
alivePerson1234bye21:49
mick-mickbye have a good night21:50
alivePerson1234cya21:50
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mick-mickhi friends22:17
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errortest22:54
Bauldrickmy fan is running seemingly at full speed in my laptop running natty, and is hot - the battery life is about 40 mins, compared to about 3-4 hrs running windows....23:16
Bauldrickany suggestions as to what's going on? top shows load average as 0.22 isn't that high for nothing running? apart from quassel23:19
mick-mickhi23:23
mick-mick:(23:24
peter__hi guys, room for a noob here ?23:24
mick-mickhi23:24
mick-mickpeter23:24
mick-mickwhat is a noob?23:24
peter__newbie23:24
mick-mickwelcome23:24
mick-mickI am newer here23:25
mick-mickvery interesting programm23:25
peter__you using vanilla ubuntu ?23:25
mick-mickkarmic23:26
peter__kk, I just installed kubuntu and it's great23:26
mick-mickyess23:26
mick-mickme too23:26
mick-mickwhere are you from, peter?23:27
peter__I'm dual booting with gnome 3 as my other OS23:27
peter__York in the UK23:27
mick-micknice to meet you. what was your other OS?23:27
peter__just natty install with Unity23:28
mick-mickI use natty in my job23:28
peter__don't like Unity :(23:28
mick-mickubuntu server 11.0423:28
peter__cool23:28
mick-mickyes23:28
mick-mickit is23:28
mick-mickwith a service like Terminal server23:29
mick-mickbut for nx23:29
mick-mickhow long do you use linux?23:30
peter__where you from, if I may ask ?23:30
mick-mickah. ok23:30
mick-mickI am from Brazil - São Paulo23:30
peter__only a moth or so this time but I used it in the days of Suse 823:30
mick-mickyou have installed it yourself?23:31
mick-mick*have you23:31
peter__yes23:31
mick-micknow I had liked to use linux than windows23:32
mick-mickbut my wife unlike it23:32
peter__bill gates would cry if he saw how good kubuntu is23:32
Unit193peter__: He'll just copy it :P23:33
mick-mickyou're right23:33
mick-micknow all software free23:33
peter__windows 9 then eh , hehehe23:33
mick-mickare you a programmer?23:34
peter__I try to be23:34
mick-mickcool23:34
mick-mickhope been23:34
mick-mickI tried and now I am23:34
mick-mickjust a little23:34
mick-mickwith Visual Basic 623:34
mick-mickbut I can work in the company23:35
mick-mickwith it23:35
peteteVB ouch ;)23:35
mick-micki use it for while in Wine23:35
mick-mickyes23:35
mick-mickbut I want to learn C#23:35
peter__pick up some c++ books from a torrent site and use KDevelop to learn it, you will enjoy it23:35
mick-mickthks23:36
mick-mickI will do this!23:36
mick-mickI am leaning english still23:36
peter__you can learn C# too23:36
mick-mickand all matter are in english23:36
mick-mickmatters23:36
petetereading technical books is a great way to learn both23:36
petetethey usually use simple english23:37
mick-mickI was into a bookstore23:37
peter__if you can get the C++/C# book for Dummies, they will teach you basic, easy to understand23:37
mick-mickI had read C23:37
mick-micksome years ago23:37
Skwiggshey guys, anyone on that has had to recover a ubuntu that ws installed on an external drive?23:38
peter__C++ is prolly the most common language these days I think23:38
mick-mickthks, peter and petete23:38
peter__not here Skwiggs, sorry23:39
mick-mickmy boss likes vb6 and msaccess23:39
mick-mickand the system is wrote so23:39
peteteSkwiggs: did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto23:39
Skwiggsyeah i don't want to lose my stuff but it's on a petition i can no longer get to23:39
Skwiggslol *partition23:39
Skwiggslooking now thanks23:40
mick-mickmy name is MIguel23:40
mick-mickhad you made any software yet, peter?23:41
mick-mickever23:41
Skwiggsin gteneral has anyone had to re-install ubuntu and knows how it handles filled partitions?23:41
peter__one or 2 small applications for my own use23:42
mick-mickcool23:42
peter__Skwiggs, it should ask you where you want to install and what parts to use mate23:43
Skwiggsyeah just kinda worried it'll decide to erase the partition for the new instance.. oh well23:44
peter__and if you have an OS on the filled part, grub should pick it up23:45
Skwiggsso startign with a live cd should be all i need then.. okay thanks i'll try23:46
peter__make sure you choose the third option to install it where you want it and you should be fine23:47
peter__you still there Miguel ?23:47
mick-mickhey,peter. I am23:48
peter__If you use access at work you can always use Libre Office to access the files or make any changes you need you know23:49
mick-mickI had installed winetricks23:50
mick-mickand then msjet40 and MDAC2823:50
peter__ok, I didn't know whether you knew that Libre Office will handle msaccess files23:51
mick-mickah@! pardon. Now I understood!23:52
mick-mickLibreaccess is like openoffice?23:52
peter__yes23:52
mick-mickis it good?23:52
peter__yes, very good23:52
mick-mickI will get it, then. thanks you23:52
mick-mick(libre - free ?)23:53
mick-mick(español)23:53
peter__libre should be installed if you upgrade to 11.0423:54
mick-mickin the server version the softwares aren' t not installed23:54
peter__it replaced O[enOffice23:54
mick-mickautomatically23:54
claydohlibreoffice-base doesn't really handle access files, I don't think23:54
mick-mickhere there is a BROffice23:55
mick-mickBR- Brazil23:55
peter__anyway, I must log now guys, nice to meet you all23:56
mick-mickhi xien23:58

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