[09:13] <espada> hi
[09:13] <espada> سلام به دوستان
[09:13] <espada> من کمک می خوام
[09:13] <espada> تازه لینوکس ۱۱.۴ رو نصب کردم
[09:14] <espada> می خوام کلا ‍‍باک کنمش چه کنم
[09:14] <espada> no body in this room
[09:15] <espada> pleasse helpe me to uninisstal unonto
[14:26] <ali_> لینوکس بهتر است یا ویندوز
[15:27] <fvahid> everplays: ping
[15:36] <everplays> fvahid, pong
[15:37] <fvahid> everplays: khobii? :)
[15:37] <everplays> mersi khodet chetori fvahid ?
[15:38] <fvahid> everplays: bad nistam mamnoon
[15:38] <fvahid> everplays: haji ye soal dashtam
[15:39] <fvahid> everplays: mikham bedonam in shabake shetab az che technology estefade mikone
[15:39] <everplays> fvahid, dar che moredish dude? man kharid-e banki ro midoonam, hamin transaction hayi ke beyne foorooshgaha va bank hast ro
[15:40] <fvahid> everplays: mikham bedonam in trasaction chejoor anjam mishe protocole esh chiye
[15:40] <everplays> fvahid, age manzooret hamoone ke goftam mamoolan soap-e
[15:41] <everplays> model-esh ham intorie ke aval ye request mizani be bank va meghdari ke gharar-e ja be ja beshe ro be bank migi
[15:41] <fvahid> everplays: in dasghahe pos masaln
[15:42] <everplays> fvahid, hmm! oono daghigh nemidoonam, man faghat ba gateway-e ebank-a kar kardam dude
[15:42] <fvahid> everplays: az strip card magnet data ro mikhone bad ba modem mifrest bank
[15:43] <fvahid> everplays: in data encript shode hast
[15:43] <everplays> fvahid, fekr konam too wikipedia dar morede atm begardi tarz-e karesh ro ham peyda koni vali age kasio mikhay ke bedoone man nistam :)
[15:43] <fvahid> :)
[15:44] <fvahid> everplays: to wiki gashtam khob sad joor protocol dare daghigan nemidonam to iran az chi estefade mishe
[15:45] <fvahid> everplays: haji ba gateway ebank chi kar kardi?
[15:45] <everplays> fvahid, hmm! manam shak daram ke hame bank-a az ye chiz estefade karde bashan, shayad khode shetab ye std beyneshoon bashe vali az atm ta oon bank-e ro baid midoonam hamashoon ye chiz estefade konan
[15:45] <everplays> az tarafi az ina baid-e harekat-e khafani bezanan, ehtemalan ssl ya gpg estefade mikonan
[15:46] <everplays> ke albate vase kareshoon kefayat mikone
[15:47] <fvahid> everplays: hala ye soal age man in protocol ro bedonam mitoonam entegale hesab ba device khodam dashte basham?
[15:47] <fvahid> yani az pos estefade nakonam
[15:47] <fvahid> everplays: ye modem dashte basham data ro befrestam va data ro bekhonam
[15:48] <fvahid> everplays: ye soal dige emkan dare in protocol ba asase tcp/ip bashe
[15:49] <fvahid> toye laye paeen shabake az ppp estefade kone
[15:49] <fvahid> ?
[15:49] <everplays> fvahid, khob in karo daghighan atm-a ham mikonan, pas mitooni vali nokte ine ke chetori be shabake oona vasl beshi :)
[15:50] <fvahid> everplays: khob in device haye pos az kharej miyad ye config mishe bad be khate tel va bad ya ali boro ke raftim :)
[15:51] <fvahid> everplays: hic autontication anjam nemishe
[15:51] <fvahid> *hich
[15:52] <fvahid> inha soalati hastan ke zehne mano mashgol kardan va hich manbae etelati peyda nemikonam
[15:52] <everplays> fvahid, kheyli rahaye authenticate dare, amasalan hamoon khate tel mitoone be ye hesab vasl bashe :)
[15:52] <everplays> moshtari ham ke pass-e khodesh ro midoone
[15:53] <everplays> pas age faghat in data-i ke dare rado badal mishe ro ba ye encryption-e sade ham encrypt konan kafie
[15:54] <fvahid> khob manam hammin karo mikonam yani be hesabe khodam vaslesh mikonam pass ham daram
[15:54] <fvahid> vali ba pos in karo nemikonam ba device khodam
[15:55] <everplays> man hads mizanam ina shomare khat ro be ye shomare hesab vasl konan, pas age beri darkhast bedi ke pos ro behet bedan bad az device-e khodet estefade koni moshkeli nabayad bashe
[15:56] <fvahid> masale yeki dota nist moshkel ine ke protocol ro nemidonam, ye jaraghe vasam kafiye ta radesho bezanam
[15:57] <everplays> fvahid, mitooni ye packet sniffer bezari vasat-e rash bad say koni ba ye hex editor bebini be kodoome oon protocol-a mikhore
[15:58] <everplays> kollan chon ina device haye baste-i hastan kheyli nemitooni be omid-e in bashi ke data peyda koni dar moredeshoon
[15:58] <everplays> masalan hamin ke folan bank pos-esh kodoom protocol ro estefade mikone
[15:59] <fvahid> everplays: kash tcp/ip bood
[15:59] <fvahid> everplays: anal modem amadast keyboard amadast lcd ham daram vasashoon barname neveshtam
[15:59] <fvahid> everplays: faghat monde data befrestam
[16:00] <fvahid> everplays: hata nahve khondan data az karte magnet ro ham darovordam , data ro mirizam to flash microcontroller
[16:01] <everplays> fvahid, kheyli rahe hal nadari dude
[16:03] <fvahid> everplays: vaghti rajebesh ba yeki harf mizanam mifahmam ke bayad chi kar konam
[16:04] <fvahid> everplays: mage vaghti shoam ba safe web mitonid entegale hesab bedid pas hatman az tcp/ip estefade mikonid
[16:04] <fvahid> everplays: pas chera pos ham az tcp/ip estefade nakone?
[16:05]  * fvahid cheara gablan nafahmidam
[16:05] <everplays> etefaghan mitoone az tcp/ip estefade kone, vali nokte injas ke ma az soap estefade mikonim ke khodesh ye technology-e tahte http-e pas rahe halle dige nadare
[16:05] <everplays> ama dar morede pos 100% nist, momkene call kone, data ro befreste be ye call center, bad har kari mikhan bokonan
[16:06] <fvahid> in soap toye laye 7 hatesh?
[16:07] <everplays> fvahid, soap ye http request-e mamoolie
[16:07] <everplays> faghat data-i ke rado badal mikone xml-e
[16:07] <everplays> ye chizi beyne restfull-e va xmlrpc
[16:07] <fvahid> hamin?
[16:08] <everplays> are
[16:09] <fvahid> ino mishe farz gereft ke pos toye laye aval az ppp estefade mikone toye laye balatar chi ? ????
[16:10] <fvahid> mishe peydash kard ziyad google nakardam
[16:10]  * fvahid mire google kone, az everplays ham tashkor mikone
[16:12] <fvahid> everplays: manmoon haji ke vaghtetoon ro be man dadid
[16:14] <fvahid> everplays: Web based POS ham darim :) dastan dare jaleb mishe
[17:05] <everplays> hmm, fekr konam karet ba web based-a kheyli rahatar bashe fvahid chon rahat mitooni sniff koni packet-a ro
[17:07] <fvahid> everplays: are open bravo khooobe :)
[17:07] <fvahid> everplays: source esh hast miraam sourcesh ro mikhonam
[17:08] <everplays> hmm, eyval
[17:14] <fvahid> everplays: haji maloome khili sniff kardi ha maro sniff nakoni :)
[17:14]  * everplays takzib mikone
[17:14] <everplays> :D
[17:15] <fvahid> everplays: maloome khoraket dsniff o chizaye digast
[17:15] <fvahid> everplays: ba pcap ham code zadi?
[17:16] <fvahid> maloome code zadi in che soali bood :)
[17:17] <everplays> fvahid, na etefaghan, karayi ke ma mikonim dar haddie ke vase web app niaz-e dude
[17:17]  * fvahid in pcap khob chiziye ha
[20:44]  * WhiteCrow1 be bax salam mide
[21:19] <sadrolla> the-light: ping
[21:20] <the-light> pong sadrolla
[21:20] <sadrolla> the-light: salam too kharid host etelat darid?
[21:20] <the-light> sadrolla: salam, na chandan az web kara beporsi behtare
[21:21] <sadrolla> the-light: میگم احسان جان این تعداد MySQL تو هاست چه معنی داره ؟
[21:21] <sadrolla> the-light: مثلا فرق 2 تا با 4 تا تو چیه ؟
[21:22] <sadrolla> واسه دامین های مختلفه یا دست یوزر رو بیشتر باز می کنه ؟
[21:22] <the-light> sadrolla: ya manzuresh support e 2 version e ya db hashe
[21:22] <sadrolla> the-light: http://hosting.veyq.ir/linux اینرو ببین
[21:23] <sadrolla> the-light: دیتابیس MySQL:
[21:24] <the-light> sadrolla: bayad tedade database haei bashe ke mituni besazi rush
[21:24] <the-light> chize digei nadarim
[21:28] <sadrolla> the-light: دستت درد نکنه احسان جان
[21:29] <sadrolla> خدا نگهدار