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jdstrandzul: not uploading til next week, but I have done the libxen-dev for libvirt locally00:00
jdstrandzul: actually scratch that-- it is still in universe00:07
RunegHas anyone experienced the log rotation error with MySQL on 10.04? "error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow."00:11
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Patrickdkheh, the stock mysql on 10.04 is always crashing for me, so I use my own builds00:37
SlybootsHm, seems my proble has.. gotten worse00:39
SlybootsRebooted my server, now it just drops to a initramfs without error messages00:39
SlybootsSo.. no idea what the heck is wrong00:40
SlybootsAnd I've no idea how to actually owrk initramfs00:45
SlybootsOK, this is getitng somwhere now00:48
Slyboots"Running /scripts/init-bottom :... Mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed : no such file or directory00:48
Slybootsthen again for /sys and /proc00:49
SlybootsTarget fielsystem doesnt' have requested /sbin/init00:49
Slybootsno init found.00:49
virusuynight all00:50
SlybootsOh this is tiresome01:01
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warzauwynnSlyboots: have you tried booting to a livecd, doing chroot and fixing it from there?01:07
SlybootsI tinkered with grub, and managed to get the system to boot..01:08
SlybootsBut its not working correclty, it fails to mount / and.. well its showing data on "mount" that doesnt make sense01:08
SlybootsDrives that dont exist mounted to locations and whatnot01:08
warzauwynnno backups?01:08
Slybootsnot of the entire OS01:09
warzauwynnwell, just /boot01:09
SlybootsWell as far as I can tell /boot is fine01:10
warzauwynnah, that sucks.  probably some corrupted libs or something huh?01:10
SlybootsIt just seems to be fsking up when it is mounting disks at boot01:10
Slybootsbut I cant figure out why01:11
warzauwynnwhat i've done in a situation like that, assuming that the partitions are solid and the disks aren't failing, is move everything into a new folder, say /root/old-system01:11
warzauwynnthen re-install on the same partition.01:11
warzauwynnthen move shizz back into place as needed.01:11
SlybootsSo wipe and reinstall01:11
Slybootshow very windows :P01:11
warzauwynnno01:11
warzauwynnhaha01:12
warzauwynnit's "move the system aside and re-install", which is actually very appley01:12
SlybootsEither way that'll take hours01:13
warzauwynnthe thing is, if it's an ubuntu server, you can be back on a running system in like 15 minutes, then you'll have the tools readily available to fix the problem.01:13
SlybootsAnd means I have to reconfnigre the entire server01:13
warzauwynnyeah, well... depending on how complicated your setup is it could be a bad idea.01:13
warzauwynnanyhow, just thought i'd offer a suggestion of how i've gotten myself out of a similar situation.01:13
SlybootsAnd since I dont know what caused the problem in the first place, whats to say it wont happen again01:13
SlybootsFor example, if I type in "mount"01:14
Slyboots/dev/sda5 on / type ext201:14
SlybootsI dopnt have a /dev/sda5, I have /dev/sdC5..01:14
SlybootsAnd /dev/sdg1 on /media/disk type ext4 - God only knows what THAT is about01:15
warzauwynntry lshw -class disk -class storage01:15
SlybootsIs there a way to resize the terminal screen01:16
warzauwynnat boot, yes.01:16
SlybootsFor some reason about 1/5 of it is OFF the edge of my monitor01:16
warzauwynnoh damn, that's odd.01:16
Slybootsit makes using the local terminal.. ... annoying01:16
warzauwynnhmm... i used to know a tool for doing it on-the-fly...01:16
warzauwynncan't remember, can't find it.  it was a long time ago...01:18
SlybootsWell I ran that command anyway01:19
SlybootsIts showing all the disks I have attafched with their UUID's01:19
SlybootsNo /dev/sdg either01:19
warzauwynnweird01:20
Slyboots#not really, I dont have a /dev/sdg, at least not SUPPOSED to01:20
warzauwynnright01:20
SlybootsOkay, Im going to walk through this.. see if anyhting comes ot mind01:21
warzauwynnwhat about: file /dev/sd* ?01:21
Slybootsthe machine starts up.. rns bios.. then lauches grub01:21
Slybootsso that far.. /boot/ must be mounted right?01:21
warzauwynnwell... so far grub knows where it is on the disk and can access it.01:22
SlybootsDoes the system look AYNWHERE else other than /etc/fstab for partition information01:22
warzauwynnpartition table01:22
SlybootsWhich is fine according to fdisk01:23
warzauwynni'd check sfdisk -l /dev/sd* and file /dev/sd*01:23
SlybootsI can mount everything manually without any problems01:23
Slybootssfdisk only works on MBR disks, I have to use GPT01:23
warzauwynnyou might have real files in place of your old dev files.01:23
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warzauwynndamn01:23
warzauwynni didn't know that, haven't done GPT in linux yet.01:24
SlybootsOh hold on.01:24
SlybootsMy / and /boot are mbr01:24
Slybootsokay, sfdisk shows the partition table, file lists it as "Block special"01:24
warzauwynnso it shows /dev/sdg for block special, but nothing listed for sda or sdb?01:24
SlybootsWell for /dev/sdg its No such file or directory01:25
warzauwynnwell that's ƒ weird.01:25
warzauwynnisn't /dev/sdg mounted on /media?01:26
SlybootsAccording to mtab01:26
warzauwynnlol01:26
SlybootsThere ISNT a /dev/sdg though01:26
SlybootsThere SHOULDNT be01:26
SlybootsI dont have that many disks01:26
SlybootsI dont know where the hell its getting this disk from01:26
warzauwynnhow'd this all happen?01:26
SlybootsAHHH FUCK IT!01:26
SlybootsThe power went out x.x01:27
SlybootsIt was working 101% for weeks01:27
SlybootsPowercut, turned it back on "AGGGH! PANIC STATIONS!"01:27
SlybootsIm just going to nuke it01:27
SlybootsIf I have to rebuild that Raid6 again though...... *exhale*01:27
warzauwynn=/01:28
SlybootsMight try Arch or something01:28
SlybootsRather fed up with ubuntu now :D01:28
warzauwynntry centos01:28
SlybootsWhats that?01:28
warzauwynnit's a redhat based distro.  rpm package format managed through yum.01:29
SlybootsI would love to try FreeNAS, but I dont know enough about FreeBSD to work it01:29
SlybootsEh.. I realy like apt01:29
warzauwynni gave it another go recently, after years of using debian and ubuntu, and was pleasantly surprised.01:29
warzauwynntechnically your'e not supposed to use the cli on freenas though01:29
warzauwynnfreenas 8 is great though, if you have a 64 bit system.01:29
warzauwynni have two freenas boxes running 8 on zfs.  64-bit has been solid as a rock.01:30
* Slyboots uses his sever for dhcp and dns though01:30
Slybootsand irc :D01:30
warzauwynnwell, zfs is ƒ awesome.  i don't think it'd be too hard to get irc, dhcp and dns running on freebsd.01:31
warzauwynnplus, freebsd has some neat tools that are handy to know.01:31
SlybootsBut I cant damange the LVM x.x01:31
SlybootsAlthough I might be able to mount it and do a backup, but christ almighty rebuilding its a pain in the butt01:31
warzauwynnbleh.  lvm is over-rated unless you have a huge linux installation.  that's my opinion anyway... i'm sure a lot of people love it, but i'm happier without it.01:32
Slybootswarzauwynn, 10tb?01:32
warzauwynnzfs will do 10tb01:32
SlybootsNah U'll stick with linux01:33
warzauwynni can't wait for linux to get a more modern implementation of zfs. :)01:33
SlybootsNeed other stuff like Sabnzbd, rtorrent..01:33
SlybootsToo much stuff that I dont wan tto  spend weeks refaffing about01:33
warzauwynnyeah01:33
Slybootsback to ubutnu.. x.x01:33
warzauwynnor centos01:34
SlybootsI dont wana risk trashing the mdadm array01:34
warzauwynnah01:34
SlybootsWith a fresh install I should be able to simply say "remount it"01:34
SlybootsAnd should work01:34
Slyboots.. in theroy01:34
warzauwynntry it from a livecd01:35
warzauwynnthe desktop livecd, i mean.01:35
warzauwynni'm really happy that ubuntu has kept a reliable livecd, they're so useful.  i just wish it had vim on it.01:36
SlybootsAye, will.. faff around with it some01:36
SlybootsGot to get the backup network online to restort net connectivy before the natives get restless without their facebook fix :P01:37
warzauwynnhaha01:37
sarthorHI, i am not able to run my dhcp, my configuration is here, please guide me if some friend afford to give a little time,  http://pastebin.com/geuNCfLf using ubuntu server 11.0402:32
smwsarthor, first result on google. looks like what you want. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/no-subnet-declaration-for-eth0-when-runnig-dhcpd-632686/02:38
sarthorsmw, i read you given link, and i already googled also, but no success for me, and I really first do googling, after that i use to come here for asking seniors,  Any more help?02:51
smwsarthor, sorry, I don't know much about dhcp... I let the router do it :-P.02:52
sarthorok02:53
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sarthorHi, the old commands of starting / stoping squid, dhcpd, commands are not wroking in my Natty, even service dhcpd restart or service squid restart is also not working, how to do that in Natty?03:59
bobobobbobobI am creating a Ubuntu VM server and want to move a bare metal server to a VM.  Any late night reading I should do before I get started?  I was going to try to make a clonezilla copy of the ubuntu bm server and then use clonezilla.iso to put it in the VM.05:50
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uvirtbotNew bug: #776103 in open-vm-tools (multiverse) "package open-vm-dkms 2011.03.28-387002-0ubuntu2 fails to build against 2.6.39 kernels, due to missing linux/smp_lock.h" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77610308:02
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owen1can someone hit my wiki and tell me if he can see it? http://76.172.9.207:3000/10:42
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uuser123i have installed KVM on ubuntu 10.04 and i was able to installed windows 7 on that and was able to boot/reboot/shutdown many time but when i remove the dvd of windows 7 from dvd drive i am not able to load windows 712:08
uuser123Error starting domain: unable to open disk path /dev/sr0: No medium found12:08
RoyKuuser123: check boot options - is the vm set to boot from the harddisk?12:14
uuser123ok12:19
uuser123sorry had a phone call12:19
uuser123RoyK: can u please tell me how do i check that12:20
uuser123yes its harddisk12:22
Jeeves_You sometimes need to really stop the domain before it starts using new settings12:24
Jeeves_also, if there is still a disk 'connected' to the virtual cdrom12:25
Jeeves_you should disconnect it first12:25
uuser123yes12:26
uuser123thankssssssssss12:26
Jeeves_:)12:26
uuser123that fix the problem12:26
Jeeves_Good12:26
uuser123i have 3 nics on this ubuntu server 10.04 i want to configure them using GUI how do i do that ?12:27
Jeeves_No clue. I don't use the GUI for that12:27
uuser123i am planning to install software utm (unified thread mgmt ) software on that and later windows12:27
Jeeves_I just create bridge interfaces and work like that12:27
uuser123i want utm to be configure as a INTERNAL network ,EXTERNAL network ,and DMZ network12:28
uuser123gateway will be utm12:29
uuser123at present i am doing this but i have to use two differant system ,i am planning to do it with kvm or xen12:29
uuser123has any one install ubuntu server on dell insparion 15r -2nd gen laptop12:31
Jeeves_No, but i'd expect it to work fine12:32
uuser123ok12:33
uuser123Jeeves_: is it true ,i was told to use 10.04 instead of 11.04 as 10 is more stable12:34
Jeeves_11.04 sucks as a desktop (imho)12:34
Jeeves_Don't know about the server12:34
Jeeves_Ubuntu is going downhill on the Desktop. Unfortunatly12:35
uuser123ic12:35
Jeeves_10.04 is an LTS, which might be more interesting for servers12:35
Jeeves_however, for KVM and virtualization stuff, the newer versions might be more stable and more advanced12:36
uuser123ok12:36
uuser123i had problem with 11 on kvm there was some known bug12:36
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uuser123i am able to ping from dos terminal from windows 7 but i am not able to access internet what wrong i am doing ?12:52
floownhi14:06
floownI'm just change the MX in my control panel to point to my dedicated server, I can't receive mail trough my gmail account. Should I wait the dns propagation?14:08
floownthe error Gmain return is : The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1) (state 14)14:10
floownI have made a dig MX mydomain.tld it seems good (I have adapt to match myanotherdomain.tld)14:11
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RoyKfloown: check the server log files14:32
floownRoyK: in /var/log ?14:33
RoyKyeah14:33
floownRoyK: what file ? ^^ sorry14:36
floowncat mail.err is empty14:36
RoyKwhat about mail.info?14:53
RoyKor mail.log14:53
RoyKthe returned mail says "no mailbox here", meaning it reached a server and was returned14:54
RoyKfloown: what's the domainname?14:54
RoyKfloown: thanks, and btw, it's not very insecure to post a domainname on irc - bots around the globe will be trying to break in as soon as the MX is registered :P14:56
floown^^14:57
uvirtbotfloown: Error: "^" is not a valid command.14:57
floownuvirtbot: oO :p14:57
uvirtbotfloown: Error: "oO" is not a valid command.14:57
floown14:57
RoyKfloown: it's one of the fundamental laws of the internet - once a host is known, such as for google or listed as an MX, something or someone will try to break in14:58
RoyKbtw, I can reach the server14:58
RoyK220 giseh.amipicto.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)14:58
RoyKif that's the right one, that is14:59
floownso what's wrong ? We can send mails truth the command line to the new account. But if I send a mail truth my gmail account it return The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1) (state 14)""15:03
floownRoyK:15:03
RoyKfloown: can you create a test user to which I can try to send an email?15:16
RoyKfloown: check that email address - and btw, it's another fundamental law of the internet - even if you never paste an email address or give it away, the chances are immense some spambot will find it anyway ;)15:21
RoyKI mean, check the inbox to that one15:22
floownRoyK: ok Roy I have your mail ^^15:56
floownthx15:56
RoyKfloown: if the mx was set to something else earlier, it may take a few hours before the new settings are propagated throughout the net15:57
floownin fact I have change the imap.domain.tld to the another one15:57
RoyKdns is cached in many levels15:57
floownah ok !15:57
floownso I have just to wait!15:58
floown:p15:58
RoyKthe test I did was looking up in dns and manually telnetting into port 25, as you could see from the pastebin15:58
RoyKthat's testing if things work15:58
RoyKwithout caching15:58
RoyKor perhaps 'bypassing all sorts of caching'15:59
RoyKfrom 'dig soa grundmann.pro' I can see the 'retry' timer is set to 3600, 1 hour16:00
RoyKso it shouldn't take too long16:00
floownthank a lot for your lesson and advices, I will do a report to my futur blog for share it with another16:01
floown* thanks16:01
floownRoyK: do you have a book to advice to understand more about sys admin on Debian or Ubuntu?16:02
RoyKfloown: there are several out there - ubuntu has its server guide, which covers the basics16:06
RoyK!guide16:06
ubottuThe Ubuntu server guide may be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/16:06
RoyKfloown: apart from that, unix systems in general are something you have to learn to deal with - use them often and you'll learn16:07
floownomg this page seems to be rich!16:07
* RoyK didn't understand much when he first installed his initial Linux machine either, back in 1994 :P16:08
floown^^16:08
uvirtbotfloown: Error: "^" is not a valid command.16:08
floownbookmarked16:09
* RoyK slaps uvirtbot 16:09
floown:p16:09
RoyKbtw, if you want an easy-to-use mail service, and you have sufficient to setup a VM with 1-2GB RAM and some disk space, zimbra is an excellent choice (imho)16:10
RoyKit'll require a dedicated server or a virtual machine, though16:11
RoyKfloown: how much memory do you have on the box?16:11
RoyKor /in/ the box, even16:12
floownRoyK: on my dedicated server?16:12
floown(sorry I'm just learn what is Zimbra)16:13
RoyKhttp://www.zimbra.com/16:14
floownhttp://pastebin.com/6Nfv9kGv RoyK16:15
RoyKok, forget about a zimbra VM, then16:15
floown^^16:16
uvirtbotfloown: Error: "^" is not a valid command.16:16
RoyKzimbra is nice, but a bit on the heavy side16:16
RoyK2GB is ok for a Zimbra machine, but it's a dedicated install, so running other services will be troublesome16:17
RoyK1GB might do as well, though - try setting up a VM for it if you're curious16:17
RoyKapt-get install kvm virt-manager16:17
RoyKand just run virt-manager :)16:17
floownin two month we will change our server, http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/ ------> Kimsufi 24G seems to be a good choice16:18
A-KOany word/updates on a patch for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2011/CVE-2011-1938.html ?16:18
uvirtbotA-KO: Stack-based buffer overflow in the socket_connect function in ext/sockets/sockets.c in PHP 5.3.3 through 5.3.6 might allow context-dependent attackers to execute arbitrary code via a long pathname for a UNIX socket. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-1938)16:18
RoyKouch - that was an ugly one16:19
RoyKfloown: 24GB should be sufficient for a *lot* :)16:19
RoyKfloown: 16GB too16:19
RoyKfloown: with 16GB, you should be able to run 10+ VMs16:20
RoyKor a lot more, depending on how much each will need16:20
RoyKbtw, for that i7 setup, hyperthreading probably won't help much unless the server only runs apache/mailserver or other tasks that won't use much memory - hyperthreading effectually cuts the amount of cache memory available per core in two, so for memory intensive jobs, it'll slow things down16:22
RoyK(if using all threads, that is)16:22
RoyKand btw, find a good backup solution when you're at it :)16:24
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XagoHi people...wherever you are ;)16:59
XagoI'm installing a server with ubuntu obviously ;) but my primary question is: what gui client should I install and configure to run multiple OS's?17:00
XagoI'd installed from repository vmware....s and xen...s. I still don't get run anything. Why? :(17:01
rewtthey way it's set up sometimes is that the server itself does not have a gui, but you can connect from another pc via vnc or similar to see the desktop of the vm17:03
rewtdesktop/console of the vm17:04
XagoI connect to server via RDP, but I need to install at least to VM's into this server17:05
T3CHKOMMIEhey guys i was wondering if anyone knew of a way to serve up free bsd and ubuntu server on the same box at the same time.?17:06
Xagoas ubuntu desktop...I use Virtualbox OSE...but in server....is the same thing?17:06
T3CHKOMMIEXago, im looking for kinda a hypervisor type deal, but im trying to run it on some atom hardware.17:09
RoyKXago: virt-manager is good17:10
RoyKXago: install that and kvm17:10
RoyKworks like a dream17:11
Xagovirt-manager is GUI?17:11
RoyKyes17:11
Xagoare into reps?17:11
RoyKapt-get install ...17:11
RoyKjust enable ssh x11 forwarding and it'll work well17:11
T3CHKOMMIERoyK, i have heard of kvm but dont have any exprience, im trying to run pfsense and ubuntu server on an atom board for home server and router box. you think kvm can do that? is it easy to set up?17:12
RoyKif your workstation is a windows box, you'll need an x server, something like x-ming17:12
RoyKT3CHKOMMIE: it's trivial to set that up17:12
T3CHKOMMIERoyK, trivial?17:12
RoyKyes, trivial17:12
RoyKas in easy, non-problematic, a stroll in the park17:13
T3CHKOMMIEok, i just dont want to deal with freeBSD i like bash and ubuntu server alot more. unfortuatly my router softare is bsd and i rather be hosting bds from ubuntu. if thats even possible.17:14
RoyKT3CHKOMMIE: it should be quite easy17:15
XagoRoyK, you said "just enable ssh x11 forwarding and it'll work well"...how should I do that? thanks17:15
RoyKXago: what's the OS on your workstation?17:15
Xagoubuntu17:15
RoyKthen just ssh into the server and start virt-manager17:16
RoyKx forwarding should be enabled by default17:16
Xagobut I have a colegue17:16
Xagowith Windows17:16
RoyKif not, ssh -X machinename17:16
RoyKXago: then use x-ming and enable x11 forwarding with putty17:16
Xagolast one is for Windows user, right?17:17
RoyKyes17:19
XagoRoyK, ok...I'll see now17:21
XagoRoyK, I'd installed virt-manager....now I'm connected to my ubuntu server...good on this step...but...when I try to use my local CD to install another OS, this doesn't recognize the unit.17:30
XagoRoyK, when I try to use ISO image, appears a window pop-up but does not allow me search into my machine :(17:31
RoyKupload the iso file to the server17:32
RoyKscp or pscp or ftp or something17:32
Xagook...I got it ;)17:34
XagoRoyK, is it possible to virtualize a server already working, I mean convert to VM and mount into this Ubuntu?17:47
RoyKthere are some p2v tools around, but I don't know about bsd17:47
Xagonot only as a new OS and start configuring it?17:47
RoyKgoogle for p2v kvm17:48
Xagobsd?17:48
Xagook ;)17:48
RoyKXago: oh - thought you were the one using bsd...17:48
RoyKanyway - p2v tools exist, but mostly, I just reinstall and reconfigure unless it's a windoze machine17:49
RoyKwindows tools for p2v are available from mickysoft17:49
XagoMickysoft ....hahahahaha cool ;)17:50
XagoI don't use Mickysoft :P17:50
Xagoexcept some specific proprietary servers  ;)17:51
XagoI'm using Xenserver, but not really happy with this solution yet. Additionally, if we want this tool really works to make p2v, we have to purchase PRO version. :P17:53
RoyKXago: kvm is better than xen imho17:56
XagoOK....that's why I'm trying to learn and use Linux directly with virtualization17:58
Xagoand grateful with your help and tips ;)17:58
XagoRoyK, I don't know what I am doing wrong :(18:10
XagoI cannot create a new virtual machine...not reading cdrom or iso, anyway18:11
Xagonor local neither remote18:11
Xagoin fact, local does not connect...says smoething is not running18:12
RoyKstart kvm then18:21
Xagokvm is associated to aqemu18:22
XagoRoyK, back soon18:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #795983 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso script pre-installation nuevo devolvió el código de salida de error 128" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79598318:36
XagoRoyK, I'd rebooted virt-manager....and now connected locally...anyway, when I try to start CD into the server appears an error: "Checking installer location failed: Could not find media '/dev/sr0'"18:39
XagoRoyK, I see the drive on that option as reading correctly. what's wrong?18:40
Gerd_RoglingHello i have Ubuntu server 9.04 and upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 but i have install the desktop in the server edition to be able to upgrade to 9.10. Is it to use sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop to remove the desktop function?18:45
Gerd_Rogling- //Dynamit18:45
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Xagowhy installed gnome to upgrade version?18:58
Xagoand why you want remove it now?18:59
Dynamitim not allowed to use the sudo do-release-upgrade becuse the ubuntu is to old for upgrade to the newest18:59
Dynamitand i want a clean ubuntu server19:00
Xagowhy server version should not have GUI running?19:01
Xagoit is faster to manage19:01
Dynamitis mutch slower boot19:02
Dynamitas one example19:02
Xagolinux works independently of gui19:03
Dynamitbut my server take about 7 sec whitout the gui to start the web server it take about 17 sec more whit the gui19:04
Xagooooopssss...19:04
Dynamityes that's why19:04
Xagodiff: 10 secs19:05
Dynamitim running web server's and it need to load the sql and apache as fast as it can19:05
guntbertDynamit: ubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package, removing it will not remove anything19:19
guntbertnox | Dynamit19:19
Dynamiti will use tasksel later i got help from the swedish channel19:20
guntbertDynamit: don't use tasksel to remove anything, it *will* damage your system!!!19:22
guntbert!tasksel | Dynamit19:22
ubottuDynamit: Tasksel is a Debian/Ubuntu tool that installs multiple related packages as a co-ordinated "task" onto your system, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel for more information. Use tasksel only to INSTALL tasks, not to remove them. It will remove every package listed within the removed task! see https://launchpad.net/bugs/57428719:22
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 574287 in tasksel "tasksel: forcefully removes packages when tasks overlap" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:22
Dynamithow to remove the desktop easy then becuse i want a clean ubuntu server not dam gui in it19:23
guntbert!nox | Dynamit (sorry, I mistyped before)19:25
ubottuDynamit (sorry, I mistyped before): To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode19:25
Dynamitthx19:26
Dynamitas I said would have removed ubuntu-desktop due. I want to have clean ubuntu server19:28
guntbertDynamit: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106226119:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #785171 in samba (main) "Samba works or may not work quite random" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78517119:42
crohakonAnyone here able to give me some help with jailkit (using ISP Config 3.) I need to allow a user to use the java command in ssh.20:00
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claddhey, could someone give me a hand with a server 11.04 install problem?22:08
guntbertcladd: just ask your question and see if someone bites22:08
claddi verified the disc from the boot menu, and i can boot the desktop live cd just fine22:08
claddafter i choose my keyboard layout it scans the disc for some things, loads some other things, and then promptly does nothing22:08
claddgoes to a blank purple screen22:09
claddi can switch consoles, so i know it's not panicked, but the install just hangs22:09
guntbertcladd: do you get a kind of log on any of the consoles?22:10
claddwhen i switch over all it says is something to the tune of press enter to activate this console22:10
guntbertcladd: then do it, there is already a running linux22:11
claddok, watched it try one more time22:12
claddstops after enabling the NIC22:13
claddand i did a tail on /var/log/syslog and i get something to the tune of can't load the NIC firmware22:13
claddbrb, grabbing the model number22:13
claddit's a realtek r816922:14
claddit says that, then has a few lines about I/O on the floppy drive (which doesn't exist), then a quick message about the raid controller22:15
guntbertcladd: sorry, I'm obviously not able to really help - just for the future: it helps putting the nick of a person you are speaking to into the line, so they will be alerted to your answer/question22:18
claddguntbert ok, thanks22:18
guntbertcladd: no problem :) and Good luck :-)22:19
claddhttp://blog.grumblesmurf.org/2011/05/fixing-realtek-networking-on-ubuntu.html - "hope for the 8168, the 8169 driver doesn't even compile without the changes this guy details"22:23
claddit doesn't look good.22:24
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cladddisabled the onboard NIC in the BIOS and the setup goes on, complaining about no NIC card22:29
claddlooks like that's the issue22:29
guntbertcladd: so at least you found the culprit22:31
claddguntbert yeah, i'm hopeful i can get it installed, and work out the NIC issues from there22:33
guntbertGood luck :-)22:33
claddguntbert as far as installing the root FS to a flash drive, do you know what FS is recommended? will ext3 work?22:34
guntbertcladd: sorry, no idea -- I'd have to google myself and am a little too lazy for that right now :)22:35
claddguntbert thanks, i'll keep on digging :)22:35
jmarsdencladd: I'm not an expert on solid state drives, but from memory, ext2 (no journalling) is often preferred because journalling can lead to high wear on one part of the device (the journal file), theoretically leading to early failure of the device.22:54
claddguntbert ah, that makes sense22:54
claddguntbert i went ahead and formatted it ext4 :\22:55
claddguntbert ever heard of backing a filesystem down from ext4 to 2 or 3?22:55
luiterecent ssd's have very good wear leveling22:55
luiteso no need for that22:55
luiteunless you have a very low cost or embedded ssd that doesn't have this22:55
claddit's not an SSD, unfortunately22:55
claddjust a cheap flash drive22:55
luiteoh right, then it can make a difference :)22:56
claddmaybe i should invest in a small SSD22:57
guntbertcladd: please use the nick of the person you are talking to :)  - loss free conversion 4->3(3) is not possible I believe22:57
claddluite i originally was going to just install ESXi on a flash drive, and use the RAID array entirely for VMs22:57
claddluite but had some compatibility problems so i decided to go ubuntu22:58
luiteyeah a small sata ssd would make things easier23:00
luiteotherwise maybe ext4 for / and logfs for /var23:01
claddluite logfs?23:02
luitecladd: yeah there are a few filesystems optimized for flash drives23:02
claddluite wow, never heard of them before23:02
luiteit only really matters if you do a lot of writes, so if you mount / with the noatime option, I think ext4 should be fine. you should check though :)23:04
claddyeah, i'll definitely have to make sure noatime is on23:05
claddluite to be honest, i probably wouldn't be too heartbroken if my $8 flash drive died, though23:06
claddluite probably wouldn't enjoy re-building the system, though23:06
luitehehe23:07

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