[00:00] <jdstrand> zul: not uploading til next week, but I have done the libxen-dev for libvirt locally
[00:07] <jdstrand> zul: actually scratch that-- it is still in universe
[00:11] <Runeg> Has anyone experienced the log rotation error with MySQL on 10.04? "error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow."
[00:37] <Patrickdk> heh, the stock mysql on 10.04 is always crashing for me, so I use my own builds
[00:39] <Slyboots> Hm, seems my proble has.. gotten worse
[00:39] <Slyboots> Rebooted my server, now it just drops to a initramfs without error messages
[00:40] <Slyboots> So.. no idea what the heck is wrong
[00:45] <Slyboots> And I've no idea how to actually owrk initramfs
[00:48] <Slyboots> OK, this is getitng somwhere now
[00:48] <Slyboots> "Running /scripts/init-bottom :... Mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed : no such file or directory
[00:49] <Slyboots> then again for /sys and /proc
[00:49] <Slyboots> Target fielsystem doesnt' have requested /sbin/init
[00:49] <Slyboots> no init found.
[00:50] <virusuy> night all
[01:01] <Slyboots> Oh this is tiresome
[01:07] <warzauwynn> Slyboots: have you tried booting to a livecd, doing chroot and fixing it from there?
[01:08] <Slyboots> I tinkered with grub, and managed to get the system to boot..
[01:08] <Slyboots> But its not working correclty, it fails to mount / and.. well its showing data on "mount" that doesnt make sense
[01:08] <Slyboots> Drives that dont exist mounted to locations and whatnot
[01:08] <warzauwynn> no backups?
[01:09] <Slyboots> not of the entire OS
[01:09] <warzauwynn> well, just /boot
[01:10] <Slyboots> Well as far as I can tell /boot is fine
[01:10] <warzauwynn> ah, that sucks.  probably some corrupted libs or something huh?
[01:10] <Slyboots> It just seems to be fsking up when it is mounting disks at boot
[01:11] <Slyboots> but I cant figure out why
[01:11] <warzauwynn> what i've done in a situation like that, assuming that the partitions are solid and the disks aren't failing, is move everything into a new folder, say /root/old-system
[01:11] <warzauwynn> then re-install on the same partition.
[01:11] <warzauwynn> then move shizz back into place as needed.
[01:11] <Slyboots> So wipe and reinstall
[01:11] <Slyboots> how very windows :P
[01:11] <warzauwynn> no
[01:12] <warzauwynn> haha
[01:12] <warzauwynn> it's "move the system aside and re-install", which is actually very appley
[01:13] <Slyboots> Either way that'll take hours
[01:13] <warzauwynn> the thing is, if it's an ubuntu server, you can be back on a running system in like 15 minutes, then you'll have the tools readily available to fix the problem.
[01:13] <Slyboots> And means I have to reconfnigre the entire server
[01:13] <warzauwynn> yeah, well... depending on how complicated your setup is it could be a bad idea.
[01:13] <warzauwynn> anyhow, just thought i'd offer a suggestion of how i've gotten myself out of a similar situation.
[01:13] <Slyboots> And since I dont know what caused the problem in the first place, whats to say it wont happen again
[01:14] <Slyboots> For example, if I type in "mount"
[01:14] <Slyboots> /dev/sda5 on / type ext2
[01:14] <Slyboots> I dopnt have a /dev/sda5, I have /dev/sdC5..
[01:15] <Slyboots> And /dev/sdg1 on /media/disk type ext4 - God only knows what THAT is about
[01:15] <warzauwynn> try lshw -class disk -class storage
[01:16] <Slyboots> Is there a way to resize the terminal screen
[01:16] <warzauwynn> at boot, yes.
[01:16] <Slyboots> For some reason about 1/5 of it is OFF the edge of my monitor
[01:16] <warzauwynn> oh damn, that's odd.
[01:16] <Slyboots> it makes using the local terminal.. ... annoying
[01:16] <warzauwynn> hmm... i used to know a tool for doing it on-the-fly...
[01:18] <warzauwynn> can't remember, can't find it.  it was a long time ago...
[01:19] <Slyboots> Well I ran that command anyway
[01:19] <Slyboots> Its showing all the disks I have attafched with their UUID's
[01:19] <Slyboots> No /dev/sdg either
[01:20] <warzauwynn> weird
[01:20] <Slyboots> #not really, I dont have a /dev/sdg, at least not SUPPOSED to
[01:20] <warzauwynn> right
[01:21] <Slyboots> Okay, Im going to walk through this.. see if anyhting comes ot mind
[01:21] <warzauwynn> what about: file /dev/sd* ?
[01:21] <Slyboots> the machine starts up.. rns bios.. then lauches grub
[01:21] <Slyboots> so that far.. /boot/ must be mounted right?
[01:22] <warzauwynn> well... so far grub knows where it is on the disk and can access it.
[01:22] <Slyboots> Does the system look AYNWHERE else other than /etc/fstab for partition information
[01:22] <warzauwynn> partition table
[01:23] <Slyboots> Which is fine according to fdisk
[01:23] <warzauwynn> i'd check sfdisk -l /dev/sd* and file /dev/sd*
[01:23] <Slyboots> I can mount everything manually without any problems
[01:23] <Slyboots> sfdisk only works on MBR disks, I have to use GPT
[01:23] <warzauwynn> you might have real files in place of your old dev files.
[01:23] <warzauwynn> damn
[01:24] <warzauwynn> i didn't know that, haven't done GPT in linux yet.
[01:24] <Slyboots> Oh hold on.
[01:24] <Slyboots> My / and /boot are mbr
[01:24] <Slyboots> okay, sfdisk shows the partition table, file lists it as "Block special"
[01:24] <warzauwynn> so it shows /dev/sdg for block special, but nothing listed for sda or sdb?
[01:25] <Slyboots> Well for /dev/sdg its No such file or directory
[01:25] <warzauwynn> well that's ƒ weird.
[01:26] <warzauwynn> isn't /dev/sdg mounted on /media?
[01:26] <Slyboots> According to mtab
[01:26] <warzauwynn> lol
[01:26] <Slyboots> There ISNT a /dev/sdg though
[01:26] <Slyboots> There SHOULDNT be
[01:26] <Slyboots> I dont have that many disks
[01:26] <Slyboots> I dont know where the hell its getting this disk from
[01:26] <warzauwynn> how'd this all happen?
[01:26] <Slyboots> AHHH FUCK IT!
[01:27] <Slyboots> The power went out x.x
[01:27] <Slyboots> It was working 101% for weeks
[01:27] <Slyboots> Powercut, turned it back on "AGGGH! PANIC STATIONS!"
[01:27] <Slyboots> Im just going to nuke it
[01:27] <Slyboots> If I have to rebuild that Raid6 again though...... *exhale*
[01:28] <warzauwynn> =/
[01:28] <Slyboots> Might try Arch or something
[01:28] <Slyboots> Rather fed up with ubuntu now :D
[01:28] <warzauwynn> try centos
[01:28] <Slyboots> Whats that?
[01:29] <warzauwynn> it's a redhat based distro.  rpm package format managed through yum.
[01:29] <Slyboots> I would love to try FreeNAS, but I dont know enough about FreeBSD to work it
[01:29] <Slyboots> Eh.. I realy like apt
[01:29] <warzauwynn> i gave it another go recently, after years of using debian and ubuntu, and was pleasantly surprised.
[01:29] <warzauwynn> technically your'e not supposed to use the cli on freenas though
[01:29] <warzauwynn> freenas 8 is great though, if you have a 64 bit system.
[01:30] <warzauwynn> i have two freenas boxes running 8 on zfs.  64-bit has been solid as a rock.
[01:30]  * Slyboots uses his sever for dhcp and dns though
[01:30] <Slyboots> and irc :D
[01:31] <warzauwynn> well, zfs is ƒ awesome.  i don't think it'd be too hard to get irc, dhcp and dns running on freebsd.
[01:31] <warzauwynn> plus, freebsd has some neat tools that are handy to know.
[01:31] <Slyboots> But I cant damange the LVM x.x
[01:31] <Slyboots> Although I might be able to mount it and do a backup, but christ almighty rebuilding its a pain in the butt
[01:32] <warzauwynn> bleh.  lvm is over-rated unless you have a huge linux installation.  that's my opinion anyway... i'm sure a lot of people love it, but i'm happier without it.
[01:32] <Slyboots> warzauwynn, 10tb?
[01:32] <warzauwynn> zfs will do 10tb
[01:33] <Slyboots> Nah U'll stick with linux
[01:33] <warzauwynn> i can't wait for linux to get a more modern implementation of zfs. :)
[01:33] <Slyboots> Need other stuff like Sabnzbd, rtorrent..
[01:33] <Slyboots> Too much stuff that I dont wan tto  spend weeks refaffing about
[01:33] <warzauwynn> yeah
[01:33] <Slyboots> back to ubutnu.. x.x
[01:34] <warzauwynn> or centos
[01:34] <Slyboots> I dont wana risk trashing the mdadm array
[01:34] <warzauwynn> ah
[01:34] <Slyboots> With a fresh install I should be able to simply say "remount it"
[01:34] <Slyboots> And should work
[01:34] <Slyboots> .. in theroy
[01:35] <warzauwynn> try it from a livecd
[01:35] <warzauwynn> the desktop livecd, i mean.
[01:36] <warzauwynn> i'm really happy that ubuntu has kept a reliable livecd, they're so useful.  i just wish it had vim on it.
[01:36] <Slyboots> Aye, will.. faff around with it some
[01:37] <Slyboots> Got to get the backup network online to restort net connectivy before the natives get restless without their facebook fix :P
[01:37] <warzauwynn> haha
[02:32] <sarthor> HI, i am not able to run my dhcp, my configuration is here, please guide me if some friend afford to give a little time,  http://pastebin.com/geuNCfLf using ubuntu server 11.04
[02:38] <smw> sarthor, first result on google. looks like what you want. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/no-subnet-declaration-for-eth0-when-runnig-dhcpd-632686/
[02:51] <sarthor> smw, i read you given link, and i already googled also, but no success for me, and I really first do googling, after that i use to come here for asking seniors,  Any more help?
[02:52] <smw> sarthor, sorry, I don't know much about dhcp... I let the router do it :-P.
[02:53] <sarthor> ok
[03:59] <sarthor> Hi, the old commands of starting / stoping squid, dhcpd, commands are not wroking in my Natty, even service dhcpd restart or service squid restart is also not working, how to do that in Natty?
[05:50] <bobobobbobob> I am creating a Ubuntu VM server and want to move a bare metal server to a VM.  Any late night reading I should do before I get started?  I was going to try to make a clonezilla copy of the ubuntu bm server and then use clonezilla.iso to put it in the VM.
[10:42] <owen1> can someone hit my wiki and tell me if he can see it? http://76.172.9.207:3000/
[12:08] <uuser123> i have installed KVM on ubuntu 10.04 and i was able to installed windows 7 on that and was able to boot/reboot/shutdown many time but when i remove the dvd of windows 7 from dvd drive i am not able to load windows 7
[12:08] <uuser123> Error starting domain: unable to open disk path /dev/sr0: No medium found
[12:14] <RoyK> uuser123: check boot options - is the vm set to boot from the harddisk?
[12:19] <uuser123> ok
[12:19] <uuser123> sorry had a phone call
[12:20] <uuser123> RoyK: can u please tell me how do i check that
[12:22] <uuser123> yes its harddisk
[12:24] <Jeeves_> You sometimes need to really stop the domain before it starts using new settings
[12:25] <Jeeves_> also, if there is still a disk 'connected' to the virtual cdrom
[12:25] <Jeeves_> you should disconnect it first
[12:26] <uuser123> yes
[12:26] <uuser123> thankssssssssss
[12:26] <Jeeves_> :)
[12:26] <uuser123> that fix the problem
[12:26] <Jeeves_> Good
[12:27] <uuser123> i have 3 nics on this ubuntu server 10.04 i want to configure them using GUI how do i do that ?
[12:27] <Jeeves_> No clue. I don't use the GUI for that
[12:27] <uuser123> i am planning to install software utm (unified thread mgmt ) software on that and later windows
[12:27] <Jeeves_> I just create bridge interfaces and work like that
[12:28] <uuser123> i want utm to be configure as a INTERNAL network ,EXTERNAL network ,and DMZ network
[12:29] <uuser123> gateway will be utm
[12:29] <uuser123> at present i am doing this but i have to use two differant system ,i am planning to do it with kvm or xen
[12:31] <uuser123> has any one install ubuntu server on dell insparion 15r -2nd gen laptop
[12:32] <Jeeves_> No, but i'd expect it to work fine
[12:33] <uuser123> ok
[12:34] <uuser123> Jeeves_: is it true ,i was told to use 10.04 instead of 11.04 as 10 is more stable
[12:34] <Jeeves_> 11.04 sucks as a desktop (imho)
[12:34] <Jeeves_> Don't know about the server
[12:35] <Jeeves_> Ubuntu is going downhill on the Desktop. Unfortunatly
[12:35] <uuser123> ic
[12:35] <Jeeves_> 10.04 is an LTS, which might be more interesting for servers
[12:36] <Jeeves_> however, for KVM and virtualization stuff, the newer versions might be more stable and more advanced
[12:36] <uuser123> ok
[12:36] <uuser123> i had problem with 11 on kvm there was some known bug
[12:52] <uuser123> i am able to ping from dos terminal from windows 7 but i am not able to access internet what wrong i am doing ?
[14:06] <floown> hi
[14:08] <floown> I'm just change the MX in my control panel to point to my dedicated server, I can't receive mail trough my gmail account. Should I wait the dns propagation?
[14:10] <floown> the error Gmain return is : The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1) (state 14)
[14:11] <floown> I have made a dig MX mydomain.tld it seems good (I have adapt to match myanotherdomain.tld)
[14:32] <RoyK> floown: check the server log files
[14:33] <floown> RoyK: in /var/log ?
[14:33] <RoyK> yeah
[14:36] <floown> RoyK: what file ? ^^ sorry
[14:36] <floown> cat mail.err is empty
[14:53] <RoyK> what about mail.info?
[14:53] <RoyK> or mail.log
[14:54] <RoyK> the returned mail says "no mailbox here", meaning it reached a server and was returned
[14:54] <RoyK> floown: what's the domainname?
[14:56] <RoyK> floown: thanks, and btw, it's not very insecure to post a domainname on irc - bots around the globe will be trying to break in as soon as the MX is registered :P
[14:57] <floown> ^^
[14:57] <floown> uvirtbot: oO :p
[14:57] <floown> …
[14:58] <RoyK> floown: it's one of the fundamental laws of the internet - once a host is known, such as for google or listed as an MX, something or someone will try to break in
[14:58] <RoyK> btw, I can reach the server
[14:58] <RoyK> 220 giseh.amipicto.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[14:59] <RoyK> if that's the right one, that is
[15:03] <floown> so what's wrong ? We can send mails truth the command line to the new account. But if I send a mail truth my gmail account it return The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1) (state 14)""
[15:03] <floown> RoyK:
[15:16] <RoyK> floown: can you create a test user to which I can try to send an email?
[15:21] <RoyK> floown: check that email address - and btw, it's another fundamental law of the internet - even if you never paste an email address or give it away, the chances are immense some spambot will find it anyway ;)
[15:22] <RoyK> I mean, check the inbox to that one
[15:56] <floown> RoyK: ok Roy I have your mail ^^
[15:56] <floown> thx
[15:57] <RoyK> floown: if the mx was set to something else earlier, it may take a few hours before the new settings are propagated throughout the net
[15:57] <floown> in fact I have change the imap.domain.tld to the another one
[15:57] <RoyK> dns is cached in many levels
[15:57] <floown> ah ok !
[15:58] <floown> so I have just to wait!
[15:58] <floown> :p
[15:58] <RoyK> the test I did was looking up in dns and manually telnetting into port 25, as you could see from the pastebin
[15:58] <RoyK> that's testing if things work
[15:58] <RoyK> without caching
[15:59] <RoyK> or perhaps 'bypassing all sorts of caching'
[16:00] <RoyK> from 'dig soa grundmann.pro' I can see the 'retry' timer is set to 3600, 1 hour
[16:00] <RoyK> so it shouldn't take too long
[16:01] <floown> thank a lot for your lesson and advices, I will do a report to my futur blog for share it with another
[16:01] <floown> * thanks
[16:02] <floown> RoyK: do you have a book to advice to understand more about sys admin on Debian or Ubuntu?
[16:06] <RoyK> floown: there are several out there - ubuntu has its server guide, which covers the basics
[16:06] <RoyK> !guide
[16:07] <RoyK> floown: apart from that, unix systems in general are something you have to learn to deal with - use them often and you'll learn
[16:07] <floown> omg this page seems to be rich!
[16:08]  * RoyK didn't understand much when he first installed his initial Linux machine either, back in 1994 :P
[16:08] <floown> ^^
[16:09] <floown> bookmarked
[16:09]  * RoyK slaps uvirtbot 
[16:09] <floown> :p
[16:10] <RoyK> btw, if you want an easy-to-use mail service, and you have sufficient to setup a VM with 1-2GB RAM and some disk space, zimbra is an excellent choice (imho)
[16:11] <RoyK> it'll require a dedicated server or a virtual machine, though
[16:11] <RoyK> floown: how much memory do you have on the box?
[16:12] <RoyK> or /in/ the box, even
[16:12] <floown> RoyK: on my dedicated server?
[16:13] <floown> (sorry I'm just learn what is Zimbra)
[16:14] <RoyK> http://www.zimbra.com/
[16:15] <floown> http://pastebin.com/6Nfv9kGv RoyK
[16:15] <RoyK> ok, forget about a zimbra VM, then
[16:16] <floown> ^^
[16:16] <RoyK> zimbra is nice, but a bit on the heavy side
[16:17] <RoyK> 2GB is ok for a Zimbra machine, but it's a dedicated install, so running other services will be troublesome
[16:17] <RoyK> 1GB might do as well, though - try setting up a VM for it if you're curious
[16:17] <RoyK> apt-get install kvm virt-manager
[16:17] <RoyK> and just run virt-manager :)
[16:18] <floown> in two month we will change our server, http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/ ------> Kimsufi 24G seems to be a good choice
[16:18] <A-KO> any word/updates on a patch for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2011/CVE-2011-1938.html ?
[16:19] <RoyK> ouch - that was an ugly one
[16:19] <RoyK> floown: 24GB should be sufficient for a *lot* :)
[16:19] <RoyK> floown: 16GB too
[16:20] <RoyK> floown: with 16GB, you should be able to run 10+ VMs
[16:20] <RoyK> or a lot more, depending on how much each will need
[16:22] <RoyK> btw, for that i7 setup, hyperthreading probably won't help much unless the server only runs apache/mailserver or other tasks that won't use much memory - hyperthreading effectually cuts the amount of cache memory available per core in two, so for memory intensive jobs, it'll slow things down
[16:22] <RoyK> (if using all threads, that is)
[16:24] <RoyK> and btw, find a good backup solution when you're at it :)
[16:59] <Xago> Hi people...wherever you are ;)
[17:00] <Xago> I'm installing a server with ubuntu obviously ;) but my primary question is: what gui client should I install and configure to run multiple OS's?
[17:01] <Xago> I'd installed from repository vmware....s and xen...s. I still don't get run anything. Why? :(
[17:03] <rewt> they way it's set up sometimes is that the server itself does not have a gui, but you can connect from another pc via vnc or similar to see the desktop of the vm
[17:04] <rewt> desktop/console of the vm
[17:05] <Xago> I connect to server via RDP, but I need to install at least to VM's into this server
[17:06] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey guys i was wondering if anyone knew of a way to serve up free bsd and ubuntu server on the same box at the same time.?
[17:06] <Xago> as ubuntu desktop...I use Virtualbox OSE...but in server....is the same thing?
[17:09] <T3CHKOMMIE> Xago, im looking for kinda a hypervisor type deal, but im trying to run it on some atom hardware.
[17:10] <RoyK> Xago: virt-manager is good
[17:10] <RoyK> Xago: install that and kvm
[17:11] <RoyK> works like a dream
[17:11] <Xago> virt-manager is GUI?
[17:11] <RoyK> yes
[17:11] <Xago> are into reps?
[17:11] <RoyK> apt-get install ...
[17:11] <RoyK> just enable ssh x11 forwarding and it'll work well
[17:12] <T3CHKOMMIE> RoyK, i have heard of kvm but dont have any exprience, im trying to run pfsense and ubuntu server on an atom board for home server and router box. you think kvm can do that? is it easy to set up?
[17:12] <RoyK> if your workstation is a windows box, you'll need an x server, something like x-ming
[17:12] <RoyK> T3CHKOMMIE: it's trivial to set that up
[17:12] <T3CHKOMMIE> RoyK, trivial?
[17:12] <RoyK> yes, trivial
[17:13] <RoyK> as in easy, non-problematic, a stroll in the park
[17:14] <T3CHKOMMIE> ok, i just dont want to deal with freeBSD i like bash and ubuntu server alot more. unfortuatly my router softare is bsd and i rather be hosting bds from ubuntu. if thats even possible.
[17:15] <RoyK> T3CHKOMMIE: it should be quite easy
[17:15] <Xago> RoyK, you said "just enable ssh x11 forwarding and it'll work well"...how should I do that? thanks
[17:15] <RoyK> Xago: what's the OS on your workstation?
[17:15] <Xago> ubuntu
[17:16] <RoyK> then just ssh into the server and start virt-manager
[17:16] <RoyK> x forwarding should be enabled by default
[17:16] <Xago> but I have a colegue
[17:16] <Xago> with Windows
[17:16] <RoyK> if not, ssh -X machinename
[17:16] <RoyK> Xago: then use x-ming and enable x11 forwarding with putty
[17:17] <Xago> last one is for Windows user, right?
[17:19] <RoyK> yes
[17:21] <Xago> RoyK, ok...I'll see now
[17:30] <Xago> RoyK, I'd installed virt-manager....now I'm connected to my ubuntu server...good on this step...but...when I try to use my local CD to install another OS, this doesn't recognize the unit.
[17:31] <Xago> RoyK, when I try to use ISO image, appears a window pop-up but does not allow me search into my machine :(
[17:32] <RoyK> upload the iso file to the server
[17:32] <RoyK> scp or pscp or ftp or something
[17:34] <Xago> ok...I got it ;)
[17:47] <Xago> RoyK, is it possible to virtualize a server already working, I mean convert to VM and mount into this Ubuntu?
[17:47] <RoyK> there are some p2v tools around, but I don't know about bsd
[17:47] <Xago> not only as a new OS and start configuring it?
[17:48] <RoyK> google for p2v kvm
[17:48] <Xago> bsd?
[17:48] <Xago> ok ;)
[17:48] <RoyK> Xago: oh - thought you were the one using bsd...
[17:49] <RoyK> anyway - p2v tools exist, but mostly, I just reinstall and reconfigure unless it's a windoze machine
[17:49] <RoyK> windows tools for p2v are available from mickysoft
[17:50] <Xago> Mickysoft ....hahahahaha cool ;)
[17:50] <Xago> I don't use Mickysoft :P
[17:51] <Xago> except some specific proprietary servers  ;)
[17:53] <Xago> I'm using Xenserver, but not really happy with this solution yet. Additionally, if we want this tool really works to make p2v, we have to purchase PRO version. :P
[17:56] <RoyK> Xago: kvm is better than xen imho
[17:58] <Xago> OK....that's why I'm trying to learn and use Linux directly with virtualization
[17:58] <Xago> and grateful with your help and tips ;)
[18:10] <Xago> RoyK, I don't know what I am doing wrong :(
[18:11] <Xago> I cannot create a new virtual machine...not reading cdrom or iso, anyway
[18:11] <Xago> nor local neither remote
[18:12] <Xago> in fact, local does not connect...says smoething is not running
[18:21] <RoyK> start kvm then
[18:22] <Xago> kvm is associated to aqemu
[18:24] <Xago> RoyK, back soon
[18:39] <Xago> RoyK, I'd rebooted virt-manager....and now connected locally...anyway, when I try to start CD into the server appears an error: "Checking installer location failed: Could not find media '/dev/sr0'"
[18:40] <Xago> RoyK, I see the drive on that option as reading correctly. what's wrong?
[18:45] <Gerd_Rogling> Hello i have Ubuntu server 9.04 and upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 but i have install the desktop in the server edition to be able to upgrade to 9.10. Is it to use sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop to remove the desktop function?
[18:45] <Gerd_Rogling> - //Dynamit
[18:58] <Xago> why installed gnome to upgrade version?
[18:59] <Xago> and why you want remove it now?
[18:59] <Dynamit> im not allowed to use the sudo do-release-upgrade becuse the ubuntu is to old for upgrade to the newest
[19:00] <Dynamit> and i want a clean ubuntu server
[19:01] <Xago> why server version should not have GUI running?
[19:01] <Xago> it is faster to manage
[19:02] <Dynamit> is mutch slower boot
[19:02] <Dynamit> as one example
[19:03] <Xago> linux works independently of gui
[19:04] <Dynamit> but my server take about 7 sec whitout the gui to start the web server it take about 17 sec more whit the gui
[19:04] <Xago> oooopssss...
[19:04] <Dynamit> yes that's why
[19:05] <Xago> diff: 10 secs
[19:05] <Dynamit> im running web server's and it need to load the sql and apache as fast as it can
[19:19] <guntbert> Dynamit: ubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package, removing it will not remove anything
[19:19] <guntbert> nox | Dynamit
[19:20] <Dynamit> i will use tasksel later i got help from the swedish channel
[19:22] <guntbert> Dynamit: don't use tasksel to remove anything, it *will* damage your system!!!
[19:22] <guntbert> !tasksel | Dynamit
[19:23] <Dynamit> how to remove the desktop easy then becuse i want a clean ubuntu server not dam gui in it
[19:25] <guntbert> !nox | Dynamit (sorry, I mistyped before)
[19:26] <Dynamit> thx
[19:28] <Dynamit> as I said would have removed ubuntu-desktop due. I want to have clean ubuntu server
[19:29] <guntbert> Dynamit: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062261
[20:00] <crohakon> Anyone here able to give me some help with jailkit (using ISP Config 3.) I need to allow a user to use the java command in ssh.
[22:08] <cladd> hey, could someone give me a hand with a server 11.04 install problem?
[22:08] <guntbert> cladd: just ask your question and see if someone bites
[22:08] <cladd> i verified the disc from the boot menu, and i can boot the desktop live cd just fine
[22:08] <cladd> after i choose my keyboard layout it scans the disc for some things, loads some other things, and then promptly does nothing
[22:09] <cladd> goes to a blank purple screen
[22:09] <cladd> i can switch consoles, so i know it's not panicked, but the install just hangs
[22:10] <guntbert> cladd: do you get a kind of log on any of the consoles?
[22:10] <cladd> when i switch over all it says is something to the tune of press enter to activate this console
[22:11] <guntbert> cladd: then do it, there is already a running linux
[22:12] <cladd> ok, watched it try one more time
[22:13] <cladd> stops after enabling the NIC
[22:13] <cladd> and i did a tail on /var/log/syslog and i get something to the tune of can't load the NIC firmware
[22:13] <cladd> brb, grabbing the model number
[22:14] <cladd> it's a realtek r8169
[22:15] <cladd> it says that, then has a few lines about I/O on the floppy drive (which doesn't exist), then a quick message about the raid controller
[22:18] <guntbert> cladd: sorry, I'm obviously not able to really help - just for the future: it helps putting the nick of a person you are speaking to into the line, so they will be alerted to your answer/question
[22:18] <cladd> guntbert ok, thanks
[22:19] <guntbert> cladd: no problem :) and Good luck :-)
[22:23] <cladd> http://blog.grumblesmurf.org/2011/05/fixing-realtek-networking-on-ubuntu.html - "hope for the 8168, the 8169 driver doesn't even compile without the changes this guy details"
[22:24] <cladd> it doesn't look good.
[22:29] <cladd> disabled the onboard NIC in the BIOS and the setup goes on, complaining about no NIC card
[22:29] <cladd> looks like that's the issue
[22:31] <guntbert> cladd: so at least you found the culprit
[22:33] <cladd> guntbert yeah, i'm hopeful i can get it installed, and work out the NIC issues from there
[22:33] <guntbert> Good luck :-)
[22:34] <cladd> guntbert as far as installing the root FS to a flash drive, do you know what FS is recommended? will ext3 work?
[22:35] <guntbert> cladd: sorry, no idea -- I'd have to google myself and am a little too lazy for that right now :)
[22:35] <cladd> guntbert thanks, i'll keep on digging :)
[22:54] <jmarsden> cladd: I'm not an expert on solid state drives, but from memory, ext2 (no journalling) is often preferred because journalling can lead to high wear on one part of the device (the journal file), theoretically leading to early failure of the device.
[22:54] <cladd> guntbert ah, that makes sense
[22:55] <cladd> guntbert i went ahead and formatted it ext4 :\
[22:55] <cladd> guntbert ever heard of backing a filesystem down from ext4 to 2 or 3?
[22:55] <luite> recent ssd's have very good wear leveling
[22:55] <luite> so no need for that
[22:55] <luite> unless you have a very low cost or embedded ssd that doesn't have this
[22:55] <cladd> it's not an SSD, unfortunately
[22:55] <cladd> just a cheap flash drive
[22:56] <luite> oh right, then it can make a difference :)
[22:57] <cladd> maybe i should invest in a small SSD
[22:57] <guntbert> cladd: please use the nick of the person you are talking to :)  - loss free conversion 4->3(3) is not possible I believe
[22:57] <cladd> luite i originally was going to just install ESXi on a flash drive, and use the RAID array entirely for VMs
[22:58] <cladd> luite but had some compatibility problems so i decided to go ubuntu
[23:00] <luite> yeah a small sata ssd would make things easier
[23:01] <luite> otherwise maybe ext4 for / and logfs for /var
[23:02] <cladd> luite logfs?
[23:02] <luite> cladd: yeah there are a few filesystems optimized for flash drives
[23:02] <cladd> luite wow, never heard of them before
[23:04] <luite> it only really matters if you do a lot of writes, so if you mount / with the noatime option, I think ext4 should be fine. you should check though :)
[23:05] <cladd> yeah, i'll definitely have to make sure noatime is on
[23:06] <cladd> luite to be honest, i probably wouldn't be too heartbroken if my $8 flash drive died, though
[23:06] <cladd> luite probably wouldn't enjoy re-building the system, though
[23:07] <luite> hehe