[01:13] thanet telephone exchange is down [01:13] :o [01:53] Hmm...is £320,000 for a new website a reasonable value? [01:54] that's a big price tag o.O [01:55] what are you having designed? [01:57] No...I'm just in a bad mood. [01:57] A charity that "helps" the deaf have splashed out that much on a new website. [01:58] wow, fail [01:58] And to add insult to injury, they didn't even get a web design firm run by the deaf to do it (they would have done it for a much lower price too...MUCH lower) [01:58] \o/ [01:59] but then I shouldn't be surprised...it's the same charity that never hire a deaf person into a management job (and yes it's a charity for the deaf...you'll think they'll have a higher % of deaf staff) [01:59] yet they manage to raise 40 million a year based on that. [02:00] \o/ [03:06] this xilinx stuff unpacks to 12GB [03:06] and i thought 4GB was a lot [03:06] ali1234: did you hear about what PHP did to me? XD [03:06] no [03:07] it was all like "I want to make you miserable" so it created 15.5 million session files in /var/lib/php5 [03:07] so many files, ls crashes with memory exhausted, rm and free just hang and use more and more ram === ujjain is now known as ujjain|afk [08:44] Azelphur, hah, that's terrible! [08:44] s/terrible/hilarious! [08:52] morning all [09:04] bah gwibber..... [09:41] morning all [09:41] morning popey are you well? [09:41] Yeah! [09:42] popey: fab :) [10:03] is anyone else awake? lol [10:04] anyone tried the webian shell? [10:04] * MooDoo shakes head [10:26] good morning everyone. [10:26] brobostigon: and a good morning it is too [10:26] MooDoo: good morning, :) [10:30] all quite on the western front it seems. [10:31] [Paul Mellors] Ubuntu Natty - http://paulmellors.blogspot.com/2011/06/ubuntu-natty.html [10:32] yep. [10:46] typical, at work and the sun is shining :D [10:55] Morning [10:56] morning daubers [10:56] daubers: how's the windows experience so far? [11:01] MooDoo: I think I'm getting over the worst now :) [11:01] daubers: awesome [11:01] Pondering the best way to test the photo stuff, as I don't really want to move 28GB of photos onto my little laptop drive [11:02] sorry... 56.7GB [11:31] how does one read mallard files? [11:32] Argh, attempting to install set up a dual boot on currently Windows laptop, resize operation failed :( [11:33] ah, got it, "yelp index.page" [11:45] Hi I am trying to add this 'http://maketecheasier.com/easily-create-quicklist-for-ubuntu-unity-launcher/2011/06/06' to my Unity, the first part went ok, but when trying to add the second bit in the terminal I keep getting an error, bzr branch lp:unity-launcher-editor [11:45] You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to [11:45] write to Launchpad or access private data. See "bzr help launchpad-login". [11:45] bzr: ERROR: Target directory "unity-launcher-editor" already exists. What does it mean? Also, I cant find a launcher anywhere to start it. [11:48] been talking to cleverbot..turns out he's not very clever http://pastebin.com/SJY2xd27 [11:49] Haha [11:54] http://www.radiolab.org/2011/may/31/clever-bots/ [11:55] been playing with this firefox addin http://pencil.evolus.vn/en-US/Home.aspx [11:55] Hello [11:56] scoundrel50a: thats a warning, not an error [11:57] scoundrel50a: you've run the command multiple times which is why you get the "already exists" error [11:57] scoundrel50a: the instructions on the site tell you what to do next [11:59] ok, well, I got the error the first time without the warning part, where on the instruction page does it talk about informing bzr about my launchpad id? [11:59] it doesnt [11:59] you dont need to [11:59] its just a warning, ignore it [12:01] ok, plezase forgive me for being thick, so why would it tell you after the install bit, to add bzr branch lp:unity-launcher-editor which causes that warning [12:01] you're not being thick [12:01] and how do I get it so can start the launcher, I cant find it anywhere [12:01] its _immediately_ after the line that says to run bzr [12:01] the paragraph right after [12:02] "Once you have downloaded the source code, you should find a .unity-launcher-editor. folder in your Home directory. In your Nautilus, navigate to the .unity-launcher-editor -> unitylaunchereditor. folder and double-click the main.py file. A prompt will show up:" [12:03] I managed to do that bit yesterday, and found it added a dew more files, does that mean, everytime I want to start the launcher, I have to click on main.py? [12:05] oimon: that FF extension looks really cool [12:06] scoundrel50a: yes [12:06] scoundrel50a: unless they have an installer of some kind [12:07] * daubers needs brown paint [12:08] ah, I see, so why would they tell you after you entered this sudo apt-get install bzr to install, you have to add this bzr branch lp:unity-launcher-editor which gives you a warning, what is the point of that part of the installation? [12:09] couldnt find an installer anywhere [12:09] what for daubers ? [12:12] scoundrel50a: I am missing something [12:12] scoundrel50a: "why would they tell you". who is "they" and what are they telling you? [12:14] http://maketecheasier.com/easily-create-quicklist-for-ubuntu-unity-launcher/2011/06/06 in the installation bit [12:14] jacobw: my Lord Commisar [12:14] did post that url in my first post [12:14] sorry, should have made it clearer [12:16] I still don't know what you're asking me. [12:17] you follow those instructions, they work. You get warnings about something from bzr, this is nothing to worry about. [12:18] The first part of the install instruction works the second bit, gives the warning, I just wondered what the warning wass about, sorry. :( [12:19] the warning appears because you haven't configured bzr to tell launchpad who you are, don't worry about it. [12:19] oh, ok, thank you [12:24] * daubers pops into town for paint [12:30] blimey 12:30 already [12:31] time marches on [12:31] ubiquity should have a 'fast' mode where it doesn't bother removing packages etc. [12:33] Does anyone know how to change your MSN "nickname" in Pidgin? Im completely flummoxed. [12:34] jimmie: it's set friendly name in the account i think [12:35] Accounts ---> Pick your account ----> Set friendly name [12:36] Ahaha! [12:36] Thanks pal [12:37] yw! [13:43] hmmmmm [13:43] jacobw: why would you not want it to remove packages? [13:43] you plan on using all those languages? [13:43] also, there is a "skip" button for that bit ☺ [13:53] * daubers returns [14:07] wb daubers [14:11] Hi daubers & MooDoo === ujjain|afk is now known as ujjain [14:13] s-fox: good afternoon :) [14:14] How are you doing? Not spoken with you for a couple of weeks at least [14:14] s-fox: i'm very well thanks, and wow has it been that long, we must catch up more frequently : [14:14] :) [14:15] indeed :) [14:18] s-fox: so how are you this finr day? [14:19] er, okay i guess. i have had a virus but nearly better. =) [14:19] thank you for asking [14:19] s-fox: oh dear, that's not good but i'm glad you're getting better :D [14:33] woohoo, just installed development release of GIMP 2.7.3 [14:33] s-fox: single screen? [14:33] ala photoshop? [14:34] Yes. Much better. [14:34] s-fox: is there a ppa? [14:34] Though I still do a lot of work in photoshop (and shall probably continue to do so) [14:35] s-fox: i've just ditched windows and photoshop cs5/elements 9, i hope i don't regret it :) [14:35] MooDoo, ppa exists. [14:35] Here is how I updated my gimp - http://paste.ubuntu.com/624335/ [14:36] ooo might give it a try [14:44] s-fox: yeah that makes it a lot better doesn't it [14:46] moo [14:47] davmor2: yo, skin there little blood [14:48] MooDoo: me owld mukka ow am ya chap [14:48] davmor2: at work but alreeeeeeeeeet [14:49] on me phone so maybe not the best irc client in the universe [14:49] i'll make sure i paste in 1500 lines of text just to over load your phone :p [14:50] MooDoo fair play I'll be sure to remove your nails slowly one by one :) [14:51] davmor2: you tease :D [14:52] haha [14:52] davmor2: i applied [14:53] woohoo [14:55] off for a bikt [14:55] later [14:57] Someone is having fun - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10927149 [14:58] wow not the usual forum post i've seen [15:02] I am thinking about moving it out of the beginner section MooDoo , but not sure where to put it. lol [15:04] If thats level most beginners at I think I need to find a Small Child with Difficulty Understanding Computers Section [15:04] *are at [15:05] s-fox: yeah everyone knows what LUN means sheesh ;) [15:06] logical unit number MooDoo [15:06] * s-fox is sad ;) [15:06] brb, need to see where my cat has got to. [15:10] s-fox: i was joking i did actually know that :D [15:10] back [15:10] k [15:11] pah i feel old lol [15:11] lol @ jimmie :) [15:11] Hi! [15:11] Heh [15:11] how are you? [15:11] Not too bad pal, you? [15:12] fussing my cat :) [15:12] achooooooo [15:12] ;) [15:12] Argh, a cat person. [15:12] and typing with one hand [15:13] s-fox: your talents just knows no bounds ;) [15:13] he was a stray, but i adopted him last year [15:13] Only problem is I have a song stuck in my head, cant check my windows firefox history [15:13] and the tune is there and some lyrics, but not enough to identify the song [15:13] lol MooDoo [15:15] wow this days going fast [15:20] Whoops - lol [15:22] OK found the tune [15:22] Went on windows and scoured the history [15:22] Its Werewolves of London [15:22] Mystery solved [15:25] Would it be rude if I asked how old most of you were [15:27] anyone here have the ability to remove freenode cloaks? [15:31] jimmie: 39 here [16:02] MooDoo: ask in #freenode [16:03] popey: already have thanks :) [16:05] Ah cool MooDoo [16:06] lo [16:06] lo daubers you windows user you ;) [16:07] MooDoo: :p [16:09] MooDoo: It's actually relativley enlightening. In the "We do this better, but they do that better" sense. [16:10] daubers: to be honest i've only just removed windows 7 from one of my laptops recently [16:10] heh :) [16:11] Windows 7 is not that bad compared to XP. It does have a few things that annoy me still, but I think by default it panders to the bottom end of the capable user scale, where Ubuntu is a bit further up. [16:13] daubers: i like windows 7 to be honest, it does what i wanted it do, i just prefer linux [16:15] MooDoo: I dunno really. For home use it's alright. A lot of the problems seem to be in the applications. And there's so much wasted screen space.... You never notice how little chrome there is on a lot of gnome apps until you use something with a lot of chrome [16:16] * popey is in win7 right now [16:17] \o/ steam [16:17] mIRC is a good example, I have 2 windows open in a frame with a toolbar on the left I don't use and can't kill, a set of icons on the top I don't use/know what they do and then a window list in what should be tabs under that [16:18] popey: i'm guessing your waiting for a native version of steam for linux [16:18] that would be nice [16:18] but not the main problem [16:19] all the games available under steam aren't available under linux [16:19] although one I just played is [16:19] hmm there is that [16:35] Ah, mug of tea [16:35] :) [16:45] hey, anyone able to help with this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8117884/photos/ubuntu_srcds.png i download hldsupdate tool, chmod it then when i go to run it, it says its not there? [16:46] MonsterKiller: can you check what kind of file that is using "file hldsupdatetool.bin" ? [16:46] hldsupdatetool.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [16:46] MonsterKiller: OK, can you do "uname -a" ? [16:47] Linux rob-desktop 2.6.32-32-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 20 21:52:38 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:47] I'm assuming it's a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system, and not all required 32-bit libraries are installed [16:47] MonsterKiller: could you try "ldd hldsupdatetool.bin" (please use pastebin) [16:48] lol i dont need pastebin for this. 'not a dynamic executable' [16:48] hm, but "file" says it's dynamically linked [16:49] strange [16:49] hailstone :( [16:49] MonsterKiller: strace -o strace.out ./hldsupdatetool.bin [16:50] MonsterKiller: Please put the last ~20 lines of strace.out on pastebin [16:50] strace: exec: No such file or directory [16:51] oh i see strace.out though [16:51] Now I'm really confused [16:51] lol [16:51] but if strace.out contains something.. please pastebin it :) [16:51] is it executable? [16:51] mystery meat binaries <3 [16:51] dutchie: he chmod +x'ed it, so I assume it is [16:51] http://paste.monsterprojects.org/mpbzeeellekwwwk [16:52] MartijnVdS: ah, didn't see that [16:53] MonsterKiller: ls -l ./hldsupdatetool.bin [16:53] (clutching at straws here.. :)) [16:53] -rwxr-xr-x 1 rob rob 3513408 2005-09-02 03:27 ./hldsupdatetool.bin [16:53] lol [16:54] MonsterKiller: do you have libc6-i386 installed? [16:55] i do now xD [16:55] MonsterKiller: try running it again :) [16:55] okay not it works :) thanks [16:55] np [16:55] i didnt even realise i had the 64bit version [16:55] xD [16:56] i installed it off a 10.04 live CD i made ages ago [16:56] Well, 64-bit is the best choice if your CPU supports it [16:58] though all the source stuff in hlds is 32bit so it won't make much of a difference there [16:58] :D its a nice dual core athlon 2.3GHz [17:07] If anyone's available to help... think I might need some help on this one... [17:08] the mail applet has disappeared from my 10.04 notification area [17:08] [I know how to restore panel to default but is there a wat yo retrieve just this?] [17:09] *way [17:09] *to [17:09] !panel [17:10] !resetpanel [17:10] To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [17:10] suprengr: the "mail" applet? do you mean the notification thingy? [17:10] suprengr: look for "indicator" in the "Add applet" menu [17:11] thanks MartijnVdS - I know the default reset one - 2nd idea seems good -cheers [17:13] MartijnVdS, thanks again - solved... good simple solution! [17:14] * suprengr elevates MartijnVdS to hero status [17:24] \o/ [17:31] [Matt Daubney] Day 2: Music and pictures - http://daubers.co.uk/2011/06/11/day-2-music-and-pictures/ [17:35] is it just me or is there a bug in 11.04 that prevents xchat from showing up in the notification bar when minimized... [17:35] Vauxhall: they say it's a feature [17:35] if you install xchat-indicator (and enable that plugin) it should work again [17:36] xchat-indicator eh?.... [17:36] it's a package [17:36] found it in Synaptic...lemme try it :) [17:37] it's the "xchat-indicator" right?...not "xchat-gnome-indicator"? [17:37] depends [17:38] are you using xchat or xchat-gnome? [17:38] what's the difference? [17:38] i'm guessing gnome one is GUI.... [17:39] both are :) [17:39] * suprengr quits to switch to 11.04 & try that one as well [always did miss the xchat in the panel] [17:40] well...i've installed xchat-indicator plugin... [17:40] you might need to restart xchat [17:40] and that should activate it... [17:40] k..give me a sec [17:43] MartijnVdS: Nope [17:44] MartijnVdS: that didn't work... [17:44] Vauxhall: you should be able to enable it from the config [17:44] Vauxhall: also, check the "messaging menu" (the envelope) in the top bar [17:44] OOOOOOoooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [17:45] man they changed a LOT of things [17:46] thanks :D [17:46] MartijnVdS: thanks :D [17:51] one more thing.....does anyone here use eclipse? [17:56] chaps, how do i combine 2 or more DVD onto one disc? [17:57] baby has 3 button moon dvd's (which are short), but i would like to combine them onto one DVD === oimon1 is now known as oimon [18:01] oimon: Are they a proper DVDs? With menu etc? [18:01] yes [18:01] Mattii, although menu is basic, wouldn't be upset to lose it if i can make my own easily [18:01] oimon: In such case some authoring is required :) [18:03] matti: i have to rip with handbrake or something? [18:03] oimon: Give me a second. [18:03] Phone.. [18:04] sure :) [18:08] * suprengr has just found that xchat-notify doesn't work in 11.04/Unity - bug? [18:21] hi [18:21] am i allowed to talk non geekish stuff here? [18:21] specifically about uk itself [18:22] probabbly [18:22] ok [18:22] er.. [18:22] might i ask a question [18:23] is it realistic to get about 20 pounds per hour in uk working unqalified job [18:23] no [18:24] Oh god no. [18:24] then what my uncle said [18:24] hes probably laughing at me now [18:24] there is a difference between unqualified and unskilled [18:24] £20/hr is £35k a year. [18:24] he said he is in uk working a pretty easy job and getting about 20 pounds per hour [18:25] i also thought its unrealistic [18:25] Oh, he's a contractor? [18:25] They get paid around that much. IT people don't need quals - just experience. [18:25] no [18:25] hes basically just a guy [18:26] not qualified nor experienced [18:26] he also doesnt have any diploma [18:26] national minimum wage is about £6/hour [18:27] and you work 8 hours everyday? [18:27] most people work 8 hours each week day [18:28] ok [18:28] The standard working week is 37.5 hours. [18:28] you probably can find a job that pays £20/hour, for a few hours a weeks ;) [18:28] jacobw, contract work. [18:28] * OmNomDeBonBon thinks Nece228's uncle is a prostitute [18:28] The only plausible explanation. [18:28] haha [18:29] great one [18:29] ty [18:29] i think hes lying [18:29] he likes to do that [18:29] but those things arent fun [18:29] hes pretty old but still dumb i guess [18:30] Did he tell you his lap is a portal to heaven? [18:30] well [18:30] he told me that i should go to london too [18:30] Hampstead Heath? [18:30] I think you're being groomed by your uncle, Nece228. [18:30] i said i should think [18:30] he said dont think just go to london [18:31] seems like a mirage [18:31] one thing i still cant understand [18:31] why he said that [18:32] 20 pounds per hour working unqalified job..... [18:32] and he doesnt know english that well [18:32] Um. Is he Polish? [18:32] Bulgarian? [18:32] we'll never know :| [18:33] hmm [18:34] is it possible when your immigrant to get a job in which you get 6 pounds per hour? [18:34] i've got a phantom monitor on a laptop with an intel x4500 graphics card [18:35] using the i915 driver.. [18:36] yeah, it seems to detect a monitor that isn't there [18:37] wondering how about germany [18:37] since now its more open for immigrants [18:43] OmNomDeBonBon: well i actually asked uncle what kind of job hes working he said thats my personal secret [18:44] you could be right :D [18:52] oimon: Right. [18:53] oimon: What you could do is a) rip into a different format (combine video) and then burn back as DVD; b) rip as DVD and then do some authoring with menu etc. [18:53] oimon: Look at k9copy, [18:53] matti:ok [18:54] i have been ripping individual episodes using handbrake [18:54] "my personal secret" = horse porn salesman [18:54] Door-to-door. === denny- is now known as denny [18:54] "Hello sir, would you be interested in buying horse porn?" [18:55] OmNomDeBonBon: rude but cool :DE [18:55] OmNomDeBonBon: funny shit [18:55] OmNomDeBonBon: im gonna tell that to my uncle [18:58] matti: any recommended format? [18:58] Nece228: I wouldn't, the reply might shock you. [18:58] i would [18:58] my uncle isnt that cool [18:58] he also likes to tell those jokes when hes drunk [19:00] Nece228: tell him that horse abuse isn't cool. [19:00] oimon: Depends what do you want to do with it later ;] [19:00] OmNomDeBonBon: oh yeah definitely [19:01] Report him to the RSPCH (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Horses). [19:02] hahaha [19:02] please stop [19:02] i cant help myself [19:02] cant stop laughing [19:36] ok [19:36] so heres the news i told that you said its impossible to get 20 pounds per hour [19:36] and i gave him quotes from you [19:37] he said that you all are people who have no life and smoke weed and are lazyasses [19:37] what reply from should i send to him? [19:37] Tell him I told him to stop molesting you. [19:38] haha [19:38] !family [19:38] perhaps something a little bit more constructive? [19:38] !language [19:38] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [19:38] Haha [19:39] Did anyone watch the F1 qualifying? [19:39] !ot | MartijnVdS [19:39] MartijnVdS: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [19:39] Nah, I only watch the race [19:42] so should i tell him that you tell that hes an idiot? === dominic_ is now known as domjohnson === ryan is now known as Guest98589 === Guest98589 is now known as Ryann [22:02] Hey, i went to share my old folder over the network and it said it wanted to install nautiluis for it so i let it, the folder is shared but when i try to access it from windows pc. it asks for username and password and my login for ubuntu doesnt work on it [22:03] home folder* [22:14] MonsterKiller: log out, then back in on your Ubuntu desktop [22:14] MonsterKiller: after that, it should work from your Windows machine [22:19] * daubers has often considered selling computers with Ubuntu on as a side business. Make a few bob from each one sold [23:20] I don't suppose anyone knows how to persuade an upstream kernel to work with udev on current debian do they? [23:21] my 3.0rc2 build kind of works but /dev/by* is missing