| jledbetter | pleia2, Maybe it'll be a conversation starter. "Don't you mean social/ly/ exciting?" Then you can say "Yes! It is! Here's how you sign up..." ;) | 20:00 |
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| Tubu | Hi all! | 23:06 |
| Tubu | hm... probably not a meeting moment... | 23:07 |
| IdleOne | Hello Tubu | 23:08 |
| Tubu | ok, it will be for another UbUntU time... | 23:08 |
| Tubu | ow | 23:08 |
| Tubu | Hi idleOne | 23:08 |
| Tubu | I'm looking for some info about the ubuntu-women.org... | 23:10 |
| IdleOne | what sort of info? | 23:11 |
| Tubu | I come here from the launchpad, where I discover the group and subscribe to it... | 23:12 |
| Tubu | I would like to know more about the purpose of the group and how it is working... | 23:12 |
| Tubu | Is there "projects" for exemple? | 23:12 |
| IdleOne | take a look at the website there is all the info. | 23:13 |
| IdleOne | perhaps this link will help http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/GetInvolved | 23:13 |
| Tubu | I when on it, but it seems (for me) really unconcrete (I mean abstarct) | 23:14 |
| IdleOne | I am not sure I am best placed to answer your questions. I would suggest signing up to the mailing list and introduce yourself to the team. | 23:15 |
| Tubu | are there sometime real meeting or action, I mean? cause i didn't saw any mention of that kind. | 23:15 |
| hypatia | Tubu: we;ve run a couple of contests in the past, and have an active mentoring program | 23:16 |
| IdleOne | here is someone who can probably help you better then I could :) | 23:17 |
| Tubu | : o) | 23:17 |
| Tubu | thanks already IdleOne! | 23:17 |
| Tubu | but i didn't understoud the point of the group (stupid question thus:) does the group want to "show" the quota of women using/developping Ubuntu? | 23:20 |
| valorie | Tubu: a lot of our project is social | 23:20 |
| Tubu | ah | 23:20 |
| valorie | integrating women into the Ubuntu project at large | 23:20 |
| valorie | one of our members does keep track of Ubuntu Membership statistics | 23:20 |
| valorie | but that isn't primary to the remit of the group | 23:21 |
| valorie | it's just useful to see how much work remains | 23:21 |
| valorie | you could look at me as a test case | 23:21 |
| valorie | long-time linux user, very reluctant to get involved as a contributor | 23:22 |
| Tubu | "test case"... : o ) | 23:22 |
| valorie | because of my impression of the social structure | 23:22 |
| valorie | however, with the urging of my fellow U-W members, I did go for Kubuntu Membership, and sponsorship to UDS | 23:23 |
| valorie | and am part of the Kubuntu team | 23:23 |
| Tubu | do you mean you stay "passive" a long time before being active? | 23:23 |
| valorie | as far as contribution - yes | 23:23 |
| valorie | of course I'm not a passive person, and had other projects going | 23:24 |
| valorie | but as far as committing to be a part of Ubuntu -- UW got me here | 23:24 |
| valorie | think of how many users we have | 23:25 |
| valorie | vs. how many contributors | 23:25 |
| valorie | we'd like to help a lot of those users make the step to contribution | 23:25 |
| Tubu | So, maybe I did a lucky choise went I decide to go in linux and choose Ubuntu as trial this time (3 month ago) | 23:25 |
| valorie | cool | 23:25 |
| Tubu | I supose it s impossible to know (sttistically) how many users/contributors are women... | 23:27 |
| valorie | this is the official chan -- the one where we hang out socially is #ubuntu-women | 23:27 |
| valorie | well, we know the membership number - 5% of Ubuntu Members are women | 23:27 |
| valorie | I tipped us over 5% | 23:27 |
| valorie | :-) | 23:27 |
| Tubu | o wouaw! it's many!!! | 23:28 |
| valorie | as for users and contributors -- very difficult to know | 23:28 |
| valorie | I would say many when we get over 40% | 23:28 |
| Tubu | I mean I would guess something like 0,5%... | 23:28 |
| valorie | that would be truly awful | 23:28 |
| valorie | but yes, it sometimes feels that way | 23:28 |
| Tubu | so, for me is more then I thought... : o) | 23:28 |
| valorie | many women, esp. on IRC, don't use female nicks | 23:29 |
| Tubu | cool... it gives me a feeling of something growing... | 23:29 |
| valorie | because they get tired of being hassled | 23:29 |
| Tubu | ye...that's also typ...ical | 23:29 |
| valorie | the Ubuntu namespace is pretty cool, because of the Code of Conduct | 23:29 |
| Tubu | as in many (all) kind of group... | 23:30 |
| Tubu | it give a strange feeling: the fact that man use without problem their real name and thuis are also more directly "recognised" and that women are staying in shadow... even if there are doing great work... | 23:32 |
| valorie | not all groups have a CoC, and some are actively opposed to having one | 23:32 |
| valorie | well, I use my own name | 23:33 |
| Tubu | I have to read it again (more deeply) then | 23:33 |
| Tubu | I don't... : o) | 23:33 |
| valorie | I can't be troubled to be two different personas | 23:33 |
| valorie | and when unknown people PM me, I simply close the window, or ask that we keep it in chan | 23:33 |
| Tubu | In fact I also use a nickname in "real wold"... I mean a "artist name, a non-gendered name... | 23:34 |
| valorie | if they do weird crap, I report it | 23:34 |
| hypatia | i usually ask /in the channel/ that they keep it in the channel | 23:34 |
| hypatia | so that other folks know what's going on | 23:34 |
| valorie | so far, so good..... | 23:34 |
| valorie | that's a good idea | 23:34 |
| valorie | if i know which chan I share with them | 23:34 |
| Tubu | good... I will do same if that happen to me | 23:34 |
| hypatia | i've found it quite effective, valorie | 23:34 |
| hypatia | and it also helps if they are pm'ing other people too | 23:34 |
| valorie | right | 23:34 |
| AlanBell | valorie: if you do "/whois nastynick" it should show you the channels you share | 23:36 |
| valorie | cool, I'll try to remember that | 23:37 |
| valorie | usually they aren't nasty, just annoying | 23:38 |
| AlanBell | true enough | 23:38 |
| AlanBell | I get a lot of people who ask a question in quiet technical channels, wait 10 minutes then start PMing people in the channel with the same question, starting alphabetically | 23:39 |
| IdleOne | /msg AlanBell non-technical question being asked. expect funny retort. | 23:40 |
| AlanBell | funny retorts only in #chemistry | 23:40 |
| IdleOne | every now and then I get an email about a project needing some sort of translation help. So I go ahead and click the link and then LP inevitably dies a fiery death when I click save :/ | 23:42 |
| IdleOne | makes me not want to help | 23:43 |
| Tubu | about tech question... : o)... I don't understand what is the "Blueprint stuff"... I subscribe to the mailinglist to see about what it goes but didn't understood more... Could some one explain me? | 23:43 |
| Tubu | ... or give a link of some explanations for dummies? | 23:44 |
| valorie | hmmm | 23:45 |
| Tubu | (I'm now on the log of previous IRC-meetings and feel like a fish in the desert... : o/ | 23:45 |
| valorie | they are sort of hieroglyphical | 23:45 |
| valorie | I mean, you know what a blueprint is in real life, right? | 23:46 |
| Tubu | heu... no... | 23:46 |
| valorie | plans for a structure of some sort | 23:46 |
| valorie | so what blueprints are in Ubuntuland, is lists of goals and such | 23:46 |
| valorie | mostly pegged to various releases | 23:47 |
| Tubu | ow ok... | 23:47 |
| valorie | which at this point are letters of the alphabet | 23:47 |
| valorie | M for Maverick, N for Natty, O for Oneiric, etc. | 23:47 |
| valorie | and at the UDS for that cycle, say Ubuntu Developer Summit - O | 23:48 |
| valorie | the blueprint will be discussed at a meeting, and changed/fixed etc | 23:48 |
| Tubu | ow... okok... I begin to understand, thanks. | 23:49 |
| IdleOne | Tubu: a blueprint is un plan d'architecte en francais | 23:49 |
| valorie | one can even hook it to the status page if necessary, I guess | 23:49 |
| valorie | we don't | 23:49 |
| valorie | status.ubuntu.com as i recall | 23:49 |
| Tubu | thanks, IdleOne... I was just on the wikipedia page of "Schéma directeur (urbanisme)"... : o) | 23:50 |
| IdleOne | alors dans la communaute d'Ubuntu ce sont les objectifes de l'equipe pour la prochaine version. | 23:51 |
| valorie | anyway, we use them as a tool to focus us on a few goals | 23:51 |
| IdleOne | ^ | 23:52 |
| Tubu | ^^! | 23:52 |
| AlanBell | !fr | 23:53 |
| ubot4 | Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 23:53 |
| * AlanBell is happy with français, just wanted to point out the other channels | 23:54 | |
| pleia2 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals | 23:54 |
| Tubu | ye I know that link... It's the page where I subscribe to see how I could contribute, thanks... :o) | 23:57 |
| Tubu | so there is a robot that recognise french and send a message? | 23:57 |
| Tubu | will it kick me out after 3 time I use french? | 23:58 |
| valorie | the bot responds to !commands | 23:59 |
| valorie | like !fr | 23:59 |
| valorie | !ru | 23:59 |
| ubot4 | Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke | 23:59 |
| valorie | etc. | 23:59 |
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