[00:00] <flyback> julie: no I did it
[00:00] <julie> and?
[00:00] <Ganymede> Never mind, I updated the postremoval script manually and fixed the error by adding -f after rm
[00:00] <flyback> problem was X bin process was surronded by long strings of text on both sides
[00:00] <flyback> so my mind didn't see it
[00:00] <flyback> it'spart of the brain rot
[00:01] <flyback> I got it, thx guys
[00:01] <mediawork> my lm-sensor or gnome sensor applet 2.2.5 is giving me completely funny cpu temps
[00:01] <adnap> i have just install ubuntu 11.  i had problems with my wifi card using ubuntu 10, but currently i cannot even connect to my router.  dmesg shows that the wireless card timed out trying to authenticate.
[00:01] <mrdeb> why is gnome 3 faster than unity
[00:02] <Dwade09> if i extract a os iso, into a external hard drive, would i be able to load into the external hard drive to install the os?
[00:02] <julie> mediawork, I got that too on my netbook but there's nothing much you can do about it
[00:02] <mediawork> I know they are wrong because my bios is set to warn me when the temp goes above 70 deg C... however, the lm-sensor seems to be getting 75 frequently
[00:02] <bazhang> mrdeb, thats not a real question, besides, gnome3 is an unsupported ppa
[00:02] <mrdeb> mediawork: try acpi app in terminal for accurate info
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb: 'why' is a philosophical question
[00:03] <mrdeb> ok bazhang
[00:03] <DasEi> mediawork: haven't tried yet, but looks promising, feedback would be nice : http://tinyurl.com/6ehmmlo
[00:03] <flyback> julie: whatever's been eating my brain the last few yrs, I have gone from being able to pinpoint something in a pile of shit, to not seeing objects in front of me
[00:03] <flyback> oh well
[00:03] <julie> Dwade09, this would require advanced hacking skills and is beyond what is supported here
[00:04] <flyback> thx again
[00:04] <FloodBot1> flyback: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <valeria> ActionParsnip, nothing
[00:05] <DasEi> Dwade09: you can make grub boot the iso from an external and then install from it, sure
[00:05] <julie> Dwade09, the simplest alternative is with a USB drive
[00:05] <mediawork> mrdeb:   just ran apt-get install acpi
[00:05] <mediawork> mrdeb: now executing acpi, returns an error..
[00:05] <davo1234> hey i have a Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) and i cannot connect to the internet or bring up any wireless signals
[00:05] <valeria> ActionParsnip, I've booted windows, audio works, in ubuntu not
[00:05] <mediawork> mrdeb: root@hroi-GA-880GM-D2H:/home/mediawork# acpi    No support for device type: power_supply
[00:06] <mrdeb> mediawork: apci -t
[00:06] <Dwade09> julie,  this gave me the idea http://www.pcworld.com/article/165159/install_windows_7_from_an_external_hard_drive.html
[00:06] <soreau> davo1234: Is it an hp laptop with a wifi switch by chance?
[00:06] <adnap> hello?
[00:06] <mrdeb> hello adnap. welcom
[00:06] <adnap> hi
[00:06] <adnap> i posted my problem a few minutes ago
[00:06] <JokesOnYou77> hi all
[00:06] <mediawork> mrdeb:  acpi -t    returned nothing.
[00:06] <davo1234> soreau: its a hp g60-458dx
[00:06] <mediawork> mrdeb: no error now app now window nothing
[00:06] <adnap> i am having problems connecting to my wifi hotspot having just installed ubuntu 11
[00:07] <adnap> i have an intel ultimate-n 5300 wifi card
[00:07] <bazhang> !wifi | adnap please have a read
[00:07] <soreau> davo1234: I think you just have to load a module that isn't loaded by default
[00:07] <Maylow> !wifi | adnap please have a read
[00:07] <Maylow> ops
[00:07] <DasEi> flyback: fyi I now fired up vm with unity, so you want to log aout btw change the default session ?
[00:07] <mediawork> mrdeb:   I looked also into /proc/acpi/thermal... and there is nothing there
[00:08] <soreau> davo1234: sudo modprobe hp-wmi
[00:08] <JokesOnYou77> Can anyone tell me how to change my gfx cards output from pal to NTSC in 11.04?  There's no xorg.conf anymore
[00:08] <mrdeb> mediawork: maybe yoru system doesnt give it
[00:08] <mediawork> mrdeb: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/
[00:08] <DasEi> flyback: ?
[00:08] <soreau> davo1234: See if that changes anything for you
[00:08] <mediawork> mrdeb: lm-sensor app is then just guessing lol...
[00:08] <plectrum> JokesOnYou77: you can create an xorg.conf and it will be used by X AFAIK
[00:08] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: xorg.conf is still respected, if present
[00:08] <davo1234> soreau: k ill try that
[00:08] <DasEi> JokesOnYou77: you can still create and use one, if nvidia-settings doesn't offer your needs
[00:09] <mediawork> mrdeb: no wonder temp is increasing silly fast
[00:09] <plectrum> I have a weir problem, it says disk is full but I have 20% left (from df -h) and reserved block on the filesystem is 5%
[00:10] <mrdeb> mediawork: what is yoru graphic card
[00:10] <JokesOnYou77> I'm using an ATI card that I think is outputting PAL, do I need to create an entire xorg.conf file from scratch? Is there a basic one I can download and alter?
[00:10] <mediawork> mrdeb:  its an onboard rubbish card
[00:10] <davo1234> soreau: do i have to restart then?
[00:10] <JokesOnYou77> ATI 9600pro
[00:10] <mrdeb> ok
[00:11] <mediawork> mrdeb: my case is standing open, I am looking at the fan, hardly moving and silent, I am toughint the heatsink, just slightly warm
[00:11] <mrdeb> no, xorg should work automatically
[00:11] <mrdeb> mediawork: what is the cpu and why are you worried? what is your cpu
[00:11] <soreau> davo1234: Also do this: rfkill unblock wifi
[00:11] <mediawork> mrdeb:  its amd phenom x4
[00:11] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: What makes you think it's outputting PAL?
[00:12] <mediawork> mrdeb:  according to amd, the cpu should chut itself down at 80 degs... its not doing any such thing
[00:12] <mrdeb> mediawork: are the bios temps ok?
[00:12] <soreau> davo1234: After that, you should be able to enable the wifi with the switch and see the AP's
[00:12] <DasEi> flyback: ?
[00:12] <julie> JokesOnYou77, you could start by running "Xorg -configure"
[00:12] <mediawork> mediawork:   I dont know where to see the bios temps.
[00:12] <davo1234> soreau: k did that still not showing signals should i restart?
[00:12] <soreau> julie: No, that is for the proprietary driver which hasn't supported his card in several years now
[00:12] <soreau> davo1234: rfkill unblock too?
[00:13] <JokesOnYou77> Soreau: I'm trying to connect to this old rear-projection TV with the S-video out and the picture is black and white.  I found a post in the forums about my card with this problem
[00:13] <plectrum> any ideas why I get 'disk is full' although I have 20% free space?
[00:13] <davo1234> soreau: yes i did that too
[00:13] <soreau> davo1234: Do you have a switch to enable/disable wifi?
[00:13] <mediawork> mrdeb:  I dont know where to see the bios temps.
[00:13] <JokesOnYou77> said changing to NTSC-M fixed it
[00:13] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: You can change it with xrandr I believe
[00:14] <davo1234> soreau: yes its a button
[00:14] <mediawork> mrdeb: actually what I am looking at is called temp1...
[00:14] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: is there a file I can edit? or a manpage i should look at?
[00:14] <mediawork> mrdeb: maybe this is not the cpu...
[00:14] <hermanlf> I'm using 10.04-2 LTS AMD64 and installed VLC media player. Why am I unable to add files to the queue from an SMB share just like I can in Totem Player?  Anyway to fix this?
[00:15] <soreau> davo1234: Try reloading the module. What is the output of 'lsmod|grep ath'? ath5k or ath9k
[00:15] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: sec
[00:15] <mrdeb> mediawork: the bios will show you cpu temperature. if the temps are stable fhtere for a while, with case closed, and you put the heatsink on properly, then you are ok
[00:16] <adnap> my wireless card has been detected and the interface is up.  i simply cannot connect to my access point.  here is the output from dmesg since disconnecting from ethernet and trying to connect via wifi: http://pastebin.com/GNnGPKb1
[00:16] <Kayne> hello? um i kind of need some help here,  I don't know what I am doing .
[00:16] <DasEi> !details | Kayne
[00:17] <mrdeb> mediawork: do you konw what the cpu looks like
[00:17] <mediawork> mrdeb: I booted into my bios earlier to look at the temp... yes the temp is stable at 42ish, but the bios is not really making the cpu work hard, does it?
[00:17] <Kayne> Well,  i usually run windows, but my  Media hard drive stopped being read in windows and someone told me to run unbutu.  so i  downloaded it onto  a usb and  told my computer to run it on the next boot.  I got a screen of errors , and then the red unbutu screen,
[00:17] <mrdeb> mediawork: no, it's not
[00:18] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[00:18] <Kayne> then a wall of  code, followed by the same  running screen of errors, and now it seems like its in a loop
[00:18] <mrdeb> Kayne: did you use the usb creator to make the usb stick bootable?
[00:18] <Kayne> yes i did
[00:18] <mrdeb> and it worked
[00:18] <mediawork> mrdeb: yes, I know how it looks, i put it in, and put on a vindicator heatsink, with nordic silver something gel.
[00:18] <DasEi> Kayne: could you boot to desktop or not ?
[00:18] <mediawork> "artic silver"
[00:19] <Kayne> yo windows, yes  i can,
[00:19] <mrdeb> mediawork: ok. you should be ok. im not sure why your temps are not showing up. they should be with acpi
[00:19] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: What is the output of: xrandr --verbose|grep "tv standard"
[00:19] <antoiner_roquent> Hi. I have a question about using the terminal that should be pretty simple to answer.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> antoiner_roquent: ask away
[00:19] <davo1234> soreau: ok heres a pastbin http://pastebin.com/6KRmrVWF
[00:19] <Kayne> it keeps saying  "kill it"
[00:19] <mediawork> mrdeb: yeah, and lm-sensor is showing some temp, but have no clue what temp... think its supposed to be cpu.
[00:19] <davo1234> soreau: grep ath freezes
[00:19] <antoiner_roquent> If I run a command like "Ping such and such IP" or try to use "TCPDUMP on a eth0 connection that isn't connected" or anything else where it will "time out" how do I get the terminal to give me back a command line?
[00:20] <mrdeb> mediawork: maybe it shows something else
[00:20] <JokesOnYou77> tv standard: pal
[00:20] <JokesOnYou77> that's answers that
[00:20] <DasEi> antoiner_roquent: you can ctrl-c to end a entered command
[00:20] <adnap> hell again
[00:20] <adnap> hello
[00:20] <mediawork> mrdeb: yeah... and guess its not really possible to burn out a modern cpu, is it?.... is should just stop itself before it does..
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> antoiner_roquent: try:  ping -c 4 server    instead. You can press CTRL+C to end a bormal ping which will ping forever
[00:20] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Ok now to set it, try this: xrandr --output S-video --set "tv standard" ntsc
[00:20] <DasEi> antoiner_roquent: apart from it , sudo ping it and make sure no firewall is blocking your probe
[00:20] <antoiner_roquent> Oh ok!
[00:20] <mrdeb> mediawork: probably not, but i would want to see the temps for a while myself
[00:21] <adnap> not sure if i should just keep polling when i don't get a response
[00:21] <antoiner_roquent> Does Ubuntu have a built in firewall?
[00:21] <julie> mediawork, that's false, it is still very easy to burn a CPU
[00:21] <soreau> davo1234: Looks like the module might not be loaded. You said your card was a 5001?
[00:21] <mrdeb> julie: based on what facts do you say this
[00:21] <Kayne> the drive i was trying to get the data off  is connected to the computer and it si still apparently invisible to wondows  "computer" area  though  windows recobnizes it is plugged in.  i had that problem when this was a usb drive as well  . but now its inside the computer, and  unbutu  won't  run beyond the errors i am seeing
[00:21] <DasEi> antoiner_roquent: yes, ufw, but mostly not active
[00:21] <julie> on the facts that I burned 2 last year
[00:21] <mediawork> mrdeb: I base mine on hearsay.
[00:21] <antoiner_roquent> ok cool thank you very much DadEi!
[00:22] <antoiner_roquent> DasEi rather.
[00:22] <antoiner_roquent> :)
[00:22] <plectrum> any ideas why I get 'disk is full' although I have 20% free space?
[00:22] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: You're a genious!!!!
[00:22] <mediawork> mrdeb: julie: lets take off our heat-sinks!
[00:22] <soreau> davo1234: Try loading the module with 'sudo modprobe ath5k' and then check for AP's with 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i ssid'
[00:22] <JokesOnYou77> I've got color!
[00:22] <adnap> plectrum: maybe you use that 'trash' thing
[00:22] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: I have the same card :)
[00:22] <JokesOnYou77> :)
[00:22] <davo1234> soreau: ok ill try that yes my card is 5001
[00:23] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: I am working on getting more tv-out resolutions in the driver (instead of the hardcoded 800x600)
[00:23] <DasEi> antoiner_roquent: to check, if sudo ping times out, can do a : sudo ufw disable
[00:23] <julie> mediawork, mrdeb:  there is indeed pretty good protection but don't count on it, my 2 CPUs had functioning fans and enabled BIOS protection!
[00:23] <JokesOnYou77> is this a permanent solution or will i need to run it after reboot?
[00:24] <adnap> actually, my problem is right here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/783443
[00:24] <Treaver> Can someone help me please
[00:24] <adnap> that sucks
[00:24] <adnap> should have searched for that before i upgraded
[00:24] <mediawork> julie: mrdeb: maybe my cpu actually reports wrong temperatures... however toms hardware says the amd phenom II have excellent thermometers.
[00:25] <Treaver> I've searched tutorials, forums, and everything. I'm a complete noob with linux, I'm using Fedora, I need to install WPN111 Netgear USB driver, so I can get online
[00:25] <Treaver> Please
[00:25] <adnap> i guess now is as good a time as ever to try arch linux
[00:25] <julie> mediawork, if you look in the BIOS, do you get the same readings?
[00:25] <davo1234> soreau: ok im finally getting a signal from my network
[00:25] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Oh for it to default to ntsc, you should probably create a simple xorg.conf
[00:25] <DasEi> adnap: was fine in lucid ? check the backports then and blacklist the natty-module
[00:25] <soreau> davo1234: Awesome
[00:25] <davo1234> soreau: thank you
[00:25] <mediawork> its silly if they are wrong, my watch can measure a temp to within a couple of degrees C
[00:25] <Kayne> hello?
[00:25] <adnap> DasEi: i wouldn't say my wireless was exactly fine in lucid
[00:25] <DasEi> Kayne: here
[00:25] <adnap> DasEi: i could connect to an ap though
[00:25] <julie> mediawork, mrdeb: as I mentioned earlier, my netbook also reports the wrong temp in lm-sensors
[00:25] <Treaver> Can someone please help me
[00:25] <Kayne> okay can someone tell me what i did wrong?
[00:25] <mediawork> julie: no, in the bios I get 42...
[00:26] <soreau> davo1234: Now why these modules weren't loaded by default, I don't know but you can put hp-wmi and ath5k on separate lines in /etc/modules for them to get loaded at boot time
[00:26] <DasEi> !ask | Treaver
[00:26] <julie> mediawork, and with lm-sensors?
[00:26] <mediawork> deg C... which is a bit high I actually think,... but I guess the bios is not throttling down the cpu.
[00:26] <Treaver> DasEi, ubottu, I did ask!
[00:26] <adnap> lol, i like how you guys have so many canned responses for people
[00:26] <mediawork> julie: idle with lm-sensor, I read 32 deg
[00:26] <mediawork> C
[00:26] <soreau> davo1234: I am not completely sure you need hp-wmi for your situation but ath5k is the linux device driver for your card
[00:26] <mediawork> which I think is reasonable
[00:26] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: Could I just write a quick bash script with that line and tell it to run on start up? It's a quick and dirty fix but I'm not too concerned.  Also, my picture is shifted up and to the right
[00:26] <DasEi> Treaver: haven't seen you initial question, ubott.. is the channel ro-bot
[00:26] <Treaver> How do I install the driver WPN111 on Fedora OS, Linux. I need this for internet if someone can please help me!
[00:27] <mediawork> however, as soon as my cpu starts doing anything heavy, it shoulds up to 70 and above...
[00:27] <julie> mediawork, it seems properly reported in this case...  40C is not high, 75 is
[00:27] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Yes and what picture is up and to the right?
[00:27] <DasEi> !brain | Treaver
[00:27] <mediawork> and that is unlikely I think ... takes only , I measured 5-6 seconds to reach 60 deg.
[00:27] <Treaver> DasEi? what?
[00:27] <mg_> lol
[00:27] <julie> mediawork, you should check the ventilation
[00:28] <julie> make sure the heatsink is well seated
[00:28] <Treaver> DasEi so can you help me
[00:28] <DasEi> Treaver: this is #ubuntu, so no fedora here, there is #fedora and ##linux, you don't know bots ?
[00:28] <Treaver> What? I am completely new to this..
[00:29] <Kayne> DasEi?
[00:29] <soreau> DasEi: That was a bit strong, eh? ;)
[00:29] <DasEi> soreau: him leaving before I could pm ? might be ;)
[00:30] <Kayne> i sais i could oot to windows , but  i have all these errors  when i boot to unbutu
[00:30] <DasEi> Kayne: yess..
[00:30] <alket> How to configure bluefish to not create extra files like ~file
[00:31] <DasEi> Kayne: so do you get to the ubuntu desktop or does booting fail at some point ?
[00:31] <soreau> alket: It's probably in the settings somewhere
[00:31] <Kayne> okay so what did I do worng because the errors won't stop
[00:31] <Dwade09>  how do i burn a bootable iso image to a external hard drive and not lose the data that is on the external hard drive?
[00:31] <julie> Kayne, what error messages do you get
[00:31] <alket> soreau, maybe but I cannot find it
[00:31] <Kayne> I got to the Red Unbutu scrreen and then it went back to  the error messages
[00:31] <DasEi> Dwade09: you don't burn it, but simply place the iso file there
[00:32] <Kayne> There are too many to count
[00:32] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: when it was pal I had a 5 inch black bar on the bottom and 2 inches on the left that covered up areas of the desktop, now got rid of the big bars but the output is shifted to the right about an inch and I'm getting some bowing on the edges
[00:32] <Kayne> one of them said  "killit " repeatedly
[00:32] <Treaver> Ok I tried to join ##Linux, but it wouldn't let me ask a question?
[00:32] <DasEi> Kayne: so no desktop then, tried to boot recovery mode ?
[00:32] <DasEi> treaver : pm you ?
[00:32] <Dwade09> DasEi,  i have and i went to boot into usb but it would not boot into it ,, it just brought up the grub loader for linux.
[00:32] <Kayne> i don't know who to do it for unbutu
[00:32] <Corey> Treaver: Should work.
[00:32] <YoMero> ubuntu will not have gnome shell again by deffect?
[00:32] <alket> Does blufish has its own IRC
[00:32] <Corey> Treaver: Ooh, you have to identify to services.
[00:32] <Yami_Bas> hello back again :)
[00:33] <Yami_Bas> im just baffled ;c
[00:33] <julie> Dwade09, when you get the grub loader, do you try to press ENTER?
[00:33] <Treaver> How do I pm, and when I try to send a message in ##linux it says couldn't
[00:33] <mrdeb> YoMero: it will have gnome 3 soon
[00:33] <elementz> hi all. i am trying to display certain application windows a certain desktop on a dual head setup. i am using xrandr. here's my xrandr output http://pastebin.com/xK36Sa91
[00:33] <Yami_Bas> BluesKaj: you there?
[00:33] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: The bowing is most likely your output device and possibly the positioning too. Does it have options to adjust the screen?
[00:33] <Treaver> Corey how do I do that
[00:33] <DasEi> kayne: when grubs loads, press left shift, select recovery mode, brb
[00:33] <Corey> freenode recommends setting up your nick in this fashion: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup (Please make sure you check your email to complete registration) Treaver
[00:33] <BluesKaj> Yami_Bas, yes
[00:33] <[V13]Axel> How do I install Audacity on Ubuntu 9.04?
[00:33] <elementz> Corey: ??
[00:33] <DasEi> kayne: when grubs loads, press left shift, select recovery mode, brb!classic | YoMero
[00:33] <Dwade09> julie,  it just has to pick from ubuntu or ubuntu recovery or memory test
[00:34] <Corey> elementz: Yes?
[00:34] <DasEi> !classic | YoMero
[00:34] <julie> Dwade09, this is a ubuntu live cd, of course it should boot ubuntu
[00:34] <YoMero> thanks
[00:34] <Yami_Bas> can we talk over pm ^^?
[00:34] <Dwade09> julie,  nono, this is a windows iso,
[00:34] <elementz> Corey: ups sorry. your message was higlighted. i thought your message was meant for me
[00:34] <elementz> Corey: sry my bad
[00:34] <Kayne> i unplugged the drive iw as trying to get the data drom and restarted,  it went to the boot screen and is now on the maroon Ubuntu screen   I am  watching it  blink now
[00:34] <chuwy> hi i just got hte software my pc and i am able to load it but it wont work it starts booting up and then myscrean shuts off like its not reseving anyinfo
[00:35] <Kayne> i just want my data files back on the drive  that has the problems
[00:35] <Treaver> Corey
[00:35] <Yami_Bas> cause it's a pretty long story you would only follow right now XD
[00:35] <bencc> what can I use to rsync a directory to amazon s3?
[00:35] <Dwade09> julie,  not a ubuntu iso, it brings up the installed ubuntu grub menu and wont bring up the win 7 menu.
[00:35] <DasEi> Treaver: saw additional window in your messenger ?
[00:35] <Treaver> I tried to register it says this
 is not a valid email address.
[00:35] <julie> Dwade09, are you trying to boot windows or a disk you made with a ubuntu image?
[00:35] <DasEi> Kayne: looks like you got a kernel panic, try to boot safemode and use dpk to update
[00:36] <swordz> In general I like Ubuntu. Slightly sad I can't use the Unity interface (Multi-monitors, it just goes crazy). And slightly annoyed I can't use an RSA Securid for work. But I can cope with those.
[00:36] <swordz> What I can't cope with and is likely to drive me back to windows soon is the unreliable wireless connection I have.
[00:36] <Dwade09> julie,  i am trying to install windows, with a windows 7 iso i have no blank dvd's if i did i would just burn it to the dvd.
[00:36] <swordz> Any idea of what I need to help solve it?
[00:36] <JokesOnYou77> Kanye: If you can't get Ubuntu to boot and it's an old computer, sometimes Debian works
[00:37] <Kayne> I got that Wall of error codes again
[00:37] <julie> Dwade09, so if I understand correctly, you copied a windows iso to a usb drive and came here as it doesn't boot up?
[00:37] <Dwade09> yes julie
[00:37] <swordz> My main internet connection isn't the issue - my housemates are fine, it's the connection to my router.
[00:37] <Kayne> its a brand new computer i built it myslef  a month ago
[00:37] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: I got mixed up in your pronouns somewhere, does what have options to adjust the screen?
[00:38] <julie> Dwade09, that won't work right out of the box and is definitely not supported here
[00:38] <Dwade09> julie,  when i hit esc for my boot loader i picked usb but it just went to the already installed ubuntu grub menu to pick ubuntu or ubuntu recovery or memo test.
[00:38] <adnap> DasEi: should i check the backports for a newer version of my wireless driver (iwlagn)?  anything else?
[00:38] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: The output device
[00:38] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: tv or whatever it is
[00:38] <Dwade09> julie,  can you guide me to where i could get some help?
[00:38] <chuwy> anyone i need help please i dont understand why its not working
[00:39] <nocturnal_> I am needing to know how much ram and processer to give to VeritalBox so I can run windows (games ) in Ubuntu
[00:39] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: No :( or I can't find them. I even found the hidden service menus.  It's not a digital TV, it's rear projection
[00:39] <julie> Dwade09, ask your neighbor for a blank CD as the alternative will take you days or even weeks to achieve
[00:39] <soreau> JokesOnYou77: Is the output ok when using other inputs?
[00:40] <Dwade09> thanks julie , i will see if someone in my flats may have one.
[00:40] <julie> :)
[00:40] <DasEi> adnap: not newer, but older (ported back) and then blacklist the newer buggy natty one to not interference
[00:40] <DasEi> kayne: back here, so trying to get the usb work
[00:40] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: just watching cable it fills the screen.  It's got bad overscan though
[00:41] <Yami_Bas> BluesKaj: anyways DTS and DD works, but the other ports even optical stereo don't work on my soundcard. Everything comes via my bad soundcard and bad speakers..... However the DTS and DD comes through the right speakers....
[00:41] <Yami_Bas> wtf?
[00:41] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: you're probably right though, I'll bet it's the TV
[00:41] <Kayne> i restarted it again and went into tewst mode   i don't understand all this
[00:41] <Kayne> its a new computer
[00:41] <fruribe> Hi guys - I'm looking for a dell laptop with good ubuntu support. Is there a list somewhere of supported laptos?
[00:42] <adnap> DasEi: the description of the backports repo on ubuntu's website says it contains newer versions of software
[00:42] <DasEi> Kayne: that can be so, you said your win is still booting ?
[00:42] <JokesOnYou77> Kanye: understanding takes too long, you just need your data, right? :P
[00:42] <Treaver> how do I login to this irc
[00:43] <Flannel> Treaver: /msg nickserv help identify
[00:43] <DasEi> Treaver: can you : /join #freenode ? basic irc questions are handled there
[00:43] <Kayne> yes if i do nothing windows 7 boots fine
[00:44] <Kayne> i am only trying to use unbutu  so i can recover data from a drive windows can't or won't read.
[00:44] <Treaver> Syntax: IDENTIFY <Treaver> <526987>
[00:44] <Treaver> didn't work
[00:44] <szal> lol
[00:44] <chuwy> so to anyone that can help i just got the starter kit and i went to install and when i do it gives me a black screan i was able to get around that by pressing f6 and choose no somthing but after installit reboots and then i take the disc out like it says to do and then it stares up but it does not put anything to my screan it stops how do i get my video card to work with it
[00:44] <Treaver> IDENTIFY <Treaver> <526987>
[00:44] <Treaver> yeah I need help here!
[00:44] <[lan3y]> Hi i have a question about a feature on the brainstorm, its inactive, where should i ask about it?
[00:44] <Flannel> Treaver: Without the brackets, and send it to nickserv.
[00:44] <Kayne> the memtest is running now actually
[00:44] <DasEi> Kayne: there is a win app called unetbootin, verify the md5sum of your iso, else re-down it as a torrent, format usb to fat 32 and try again, use a lucid-iso if the unity was bad
[00:45] <DasEi> !register > Treaver
[00:45] <Treaver> Syntax: IDENTIFY Treaver 5268987
[00:45] <Treaver> IDENTIFY Treaver 526987
[00:46] <Flannel> Treaver: again, not to this channel, to nickserv.
[00:46] <Treaver> Syntax: IDENTIFY Treaver 526987
[00:46] <DasEi> Treaver: again, #freenode and all irc-server commands start with an "/"
[00:46] <Kayne> so i should stop with what i am doing and  get this program and find a unbutu torrent ?
[00:46] <JokesOnYou77> soreau: Thanks again for the tip.  Do you know how I can generate an xorg.conf file so I can insert that line?
[00:47] <chuwy> anyone at all
[00:48] <DasEi> Kayne: yes as there seems something wrong and fiddling at this stage might take longer
[00:48] <DasEi> chuwy: your issue ?
[00:49] <html-inprogress> hi
[00:49] <html-inprogress> julie?
[00:49] <lolmatic> hey
[00:50] <html-inprogress> julie,  are u there?
[00:50] <lolmatic> are there any tools to change webcam output on the fly?
[00:50] <html-inprogress> hi
[00:50] <smith2011> k
[00:50] <chuwy> dasei: yes ty i just got the starter kit today and i had issues trying to install it i was able to get around them by pressing f6 in the bigining of the proscess and after i installed it. it restarted and told me to take the disc out and then it tryed to boot up i think it did but when it starts it just gives me a black screan like its not sending data to my screan
[00:50] <DasEi> Kayne: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[00:51] <Yami_Bas> well im going to get some sleep goodnight :)
[00:51] <Kayne> okay i am torrenting
[00:51] <html-inprogress> is this the ubuntu channel?
[00:52] <[lan3y]> yeah
[00:52] <smith2011> y
[00:52] <Kayne> should i reformat my toget rid of the previous unbutu?
[00:52] <adnap> a debian webpage says that the iwlagn driver is included in the mainline linux kernel, so would i have to upgrade my kernel to try any new driver that may exist?
[00:52] <szal> html-inprogress: well, what's its name? ;)
[00:52] <DasEi> Kayne: http://tinyurl.com/5sv9yf5
[00:52] <Ganymede> Can someone with Google Chrome stable paste the line from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome-stable.list or something like that? Should include dl.google.com and should be a single line. I accidentally rm'ed mine. Thanks.
[00:53] <DasEi> chuwy: starter kit you mean the cd and first booot leaves you with a blank screen, so..
[00:54] <chuwy> DasEi: yes it boots andi get some music of it starting up but no screen
[00:54] <DasEi> chuwy: reboot and was bios is finished, grub starts to load, press left shift few times until you get in the boot menue, there..
[00:54] <GeekyAdam> hi all, is there a way to see what packages will be installed when installing a new program before installing it? i.e. could i see all the packages necessary for ktorrent that would be installed if i installed ktorrent?
[00:54] <DasEi> chuwy: reboot and when* bios is finished, grub starts to load, press left shift few times until you get in the boot menue, there..
[00:55] <chuwy> DasEi: ok ill shall try it ty ill be right back
[00:55] <rationalOgre> adnap: That is my understanding of it.
[00:55] <DasEi> chuwy: use dpkg-option and failsafe x, alternative is press alt-ctrlF1 once the screen is up and run :
[00:55] <DasEi> chuwy: well, try it
[00:56] <lolmatic> are there any tools to change webcam output on the fly?
[00:56] <lolmatic> like effects?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> lolmatic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1407199
[01:02] <LsBlend> Hello, can anybody tell me how to tell ubuntu to fetch from the internet for sources instead of cdrom?
[01:03] <soreau> LsBlend: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use software-properties-gtk
[01:04] <adnap> how can i tell if a newer kernel version fixed the problem with the iwlagn driver?  also, does anyone know if there is a wrapper for the windows driver?  my card works fine on windows.
[01:04] <LsBlend> what exactly would I put in the sources.list - new to ubuntu here. Also software sources doesnt seem to be installed so I cant use that
[01:04] <chuwy> DasEi: im not shure if i did it right but nothing happened when i pressed the left butten a fuw times it did like a DD thing and contiued to boot up then the screan went black and the nose of boot up sounded
[01:05] <DasEi> chuwy: k, you are there now ? try pressing alt+ctrl+F1
[01:06] <DasEi> chuwy: does this offer a commandline ?
[01:06] <chuwy> DasEi: it did not
[01:06] <LsBlend> oh wait, nvm, that worked soreau, thanks
[01:07] <DasEi> chuwy: hmm, this is an fresh install on the entire harddisk ?
[01:07] <Kayne> still downloading
[01:08] <chuwy> DasEi: yes the pc used to be widows xp but it craped out lol and so my freind told me about this software so im doing the entire pc to it
[01:08] <DasEi> chuwy: and the working live cd is still around ? I can pm you and ssh to fix x then
[01:09] <unknown> Anyone has a suggestion for installing latest/most stable nvidia drivers for a 9800GT on 11.04 ?
[01:09] <szal> unknown: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:09] <DasEi> unknown: sudo jockey-gtk, follow suggestions
[01:09] <chuwy> DasEi:yea i got the mag with the starter disc today
[01:10] <unknown> szal, , I was under the impression those are pretty outdated.
[01:10] <szal> unknown: nah
[01:10] <szal> unknown: not the most recent stable any more (275 has been released in the meantime), but still good
[01:10] <DasEi>  chuwy: saw pm window in your messenger ?
[01:11] <unknown> thank you both.
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> unknown: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:12] <unknown> ActionParsnip, , yeah, dont think thats the latest tho
[01:13] <unknown> I think those were giving me issues last time i tried, if i am not mistaken
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> unknown: there is a PPA with the beta driver
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> unknown: 270.41.06
[01:13] <szal> ActionParsnip: as I said, 275 is out in the meantime
[01:14] <unknown> ok, whats the recommend method for either 275 or 270?
[01:14] <nasuta> Sysinfo for 'old-hal': Linux 2.6.39.1-ck2.04-nasutix running KDE Development Platform 4.6.3 (4.6.3), CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 CPU          4400  @ 2.00GHz at 1200 MHz (3989 bogomips), HD: 331/391GB, RAM: 1391/2011MB, 140 proc's, 2.17d up
[01:14] <unknown> recommended*
[01:14] <nasuta> i use 275 without probs
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> unknown: there is 270.41.19 on the nvidia site, the duifference will be negligable and the packages make life a lot easier
[01:14] <rcmaehl_mobile> Would I get better performance if I gave swap an entire hdd to itself?
[01:15] <DasEi> rcmaehl_mobile: rather more ram, depends on it's size mainly
[01:15] <hiexpo> rcmaehl_mobile, no
[01:16] <lalaha> hi everyone, i just installed a driver for a wacom bamboo, and now I hang up on boot up at "Checking battery state.....[OK]"  does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:16] <rcmaehl_mobile> b/c I don't want to waste this old 4GB pata
[01:16] <DasEi> rcmaehl_mobile: that makes only sense if you got som 256 ram and swap a lot, could use a fast usb or ssd, but ram will speed much more, rather turn off swap entirely
[01:17] <learningc> hi, anyone knows how to create a boot cd for a non bootable usb on natty?
[01:17] <soreau> learningc: why not just make the usb bootable?
[01:17] <DasEi> learningc: use k3b and burn iso to disc
[01:18] <nasuta> unetbootin?
[01:18] <learningc> because the bios does not support booting from usb, I have an old laptop on which I want to install linux from usb
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> learningc: do you have a floppy drive?
[01:18] <nasuta> usb-cdrom
[01:19] <learningc> no, no floppy, just a bootable cd-rom drive
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> learningc: gah! http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[01:19] <learningc> but I do have an external usb dvd drive which I want to use, but I can't since my usb is not bootable
[01:20] <nasuta> bios->boot section?
[01:20] <html_inprogress> did anyone hear of the recent chromebooks?,,, there os      " chrome os"      ?      and i wonder if thats a ubuntu flavor?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> learningc: I'd check the BIOS to verify what can and cannot be booted from
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> html_inprogress: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome_OS
[01:22] <DasEi> html_inprogress: #ubuntu-offtopic ?:)
[01:22] <nasuta> no one wants this shitty unity
[01:22] <learningc> ActionParsnip: basically I can boot from the internal cd drive, hdd, lan, compact flash, that's all
[01:22] <rypervenche> nasuta: fact
[01:22] <html_inprogress> DasEi,  met you there
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> learningc: cool, use compact flash instead of USB tick
[01:26] <learningc> ActionParsnip: I don't have a compact flash, and I think it would be more convenient if I can get something like a boot cd to transfer the booting to the usb port, just like the boot floppy you refered earlier from the link
[01:26] <Dannyboy_> ActionParsnip: webcamstudio is massive ownage!!!
[01:26] <Dannyboy_> better than any windows program!
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Dannyboy_: nice
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Dannyboy_: I think webcams are creepy
[01:35] <Dannyboy_> ActionParsnip: i creep out people at chatroulette for fun
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> learningc: why bother, you have a medium your system can boot so you may as well use it :)
[01:36] <LucidLJ> hi
[01:36] <LucidLJ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obIx1e4144w
[01:36] <bazhang> LucidLJ, wrong channel
[01:37] <magneto> I'm new to ubuntu and trying to install a Zonet wireless usb adaptor. I need to install the drivers that I believe are in an archive folder that came on the installation disk. The folder name is LInux STA_V2.3.0.2. How do I install this 3rd party driver for ubuntu?
[01:39] <LucidLJ> whats wrong channel
[01:39] <[an]droidman> magneto: inside the folder, tell me the file extension
[01:39] <zhjawe> please help me,Why i  login into tty1 instead of desktop after upgrade to 10.10?
[01:40] <bazhang> LucidLJ, for posting youtube
[01:40] <nasuta> !ctell LucidLJ ot
[01:40] <szal> LucidLJ: this channel is not for posting random videos
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: run:  startx   does it run ok?
[01:40] <LucidLJ> ok
[01:41] <magneto> 2 folders. one with dot and the other is DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_v2.3.0.2_20100412
[01:41] <learningc> ActionParsnip: the problem is that many operating systems are bigger that 700 mb in size so I need to either hold them on a pendrive or a dvd, not a cd
[01:42] <nasuta> learningc: netinstall?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> learningc: the Ubuntu ISO is 700Mb, thats all that matters in this channel
[01:43] <zhjawe> ActionParsnip:the desktop is normal when i work in 2.6.35-23.the error is happen when i upgrade to 2.6.35-29
[01:43] <voss749> zhjawe, I thought ubuntu was at 2.6.38
[01:43] <learningc> nasuta: netinstall as pxe something?
[01:43] <[an]droidman> magneto: http://bobeltomate.blogspot.com/2011/03/zonet-zew2590-in-ubuntu-1010.html its for 10.10 but should work for natty
[01:44] <magneto> Inside th DPO_RT3070_Linux... is chips, common, include, os, sta tools, ._chips, ._common, ._include, ._Makefile and much more
[01:44] <nasuta> sorry, learningc, netinstall is in debian, wrong channel
[01:44] <zhjawe> voss749:it is pinguy os.
[01:45] <bazhang> zhjawe, which is not supported here
[01:45] <learningc> nasuta: I see, I'll check that, thanks for the lead
[01:45] <bazhang> !alis | zhjawe search for their channel
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[01:46] <unknown> Ok, up on 275 beta driver.
[01:46] <magneto> thanks droidmand
[01:47] <unknown> box was rebooting randomly. hopefully this will fixi t.
[01:47] <magneto> Give it a try
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: I suggest you join the channel for pingy OS and ask there, this is ubuntu support only
[01:48] <unknown> Is there a shortcut to show all windows at once on 11.04 unity? sorta like osx expose?
[01:48] <szal> zhjawe: #pinguyos
[01:48] <unknown> I know its on gnome 3
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> unknown: its in ccsm
[01:49] <eamon> Hello, I would like to communicate in #ubuntu over SILC, for privacy reasons. Does #ubuntu have a SILC server?
[01:49] <zhjawe> ActionParsnip:Pinguy OS is extend version based Ubuntu .
[01:49] <unknown> hmm.. ccsm
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: yes but its NOT Ubuntu, its pinguay OS
[01:49] <i3luefire> what is wrong with the wired not connecting when you plug it in with the comp on already
[01:49] <bazhang> eamon, what is that
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> zhjawe: none of the million Ubuntu spinoffs you can possibly name are supported here, ONLY Ubuntu
[01:50] <eamon> Secure Internet Live Conferencing
[01:50] <unknown> ActionParsnip, , I am going to five gnome 3 a shot on 11.04
[01:50] <bazhang> eamon, no
[01:50] <unknown> thanks.
[01:50] <eamon> like IRC except encrypted to the max
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> unknown: your call, its not stable
[01:50] <unknown> How is unity any better? lol
[01:50] <brown_fern> unknown: You don't mean "alt + tab" do you, or do you mean the content of all workspaces? That one I don't know.
[01:50] <trakinas> i3luefire: perhaps cable is wrecked?
[01:51] <nasuta> and ubuntu is based in debian, youz try it on #debian (oftc.net) ^^
[01:51] <trakinas> brown_fern: meta+tab
[01:51] <i3luefire> trakinas,  not the cable. it works fine with arch linux windows
[01:51] <ubuntu__> what are the best fsck flags to fix an ext4 hard drive?
[01:52] <Flannel> eamon: Try TOR or connecting over SSL.
[01:52] <unknown> brontos, No, here. You would know what i mean if you saw it. Essentially OSX expose
[01:52] <unknown> here = here
[01:52] <Flannel> eamon: Those are your only options for freenode at this time
[01:52] <i3luefire> trakinas, and it works on ubuntu if you have it plugged in on bootup
[01:52] <unknown> what is wrong with my typing today
[01:52] <unknown> here = hehe
[01:52] <i3luefire> just not if you plug it in after
[01:52] <trakinas> i3luefire: hmm... I see. Strange.
[01:53] <trakinas> i3luefire: when that happens, try ifconfig eth0 and see the output.
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> unknown: expose is a plugin in compiz
[01:53] <trakinas> then, if there is no output for the network and only for the loopback, try ifconfig eth0 up and see if it connects.
[01:54] <trakinas> unknown: active your effects and then meta W or A
[01:54] <eamon> thx Flannel. Hopefully freenode will take privacy more seriously in future
[01:54] <trakinas> where W = your current desktop and A all desktop
[01:54] <unknown> Its quite useful
[01:54] <unknown> Ill have to try that next after gnome 3
[01:55] <trakinas> unknown: activate effects and press meta+w
[01:55] <i3luefire> trakinas, ok.
[01:55] <trakinas> see if that is what you want.
[01:55] <unknown> I just get so lost on unity
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> unknown: how so, dash makes life easy
[01:58] <portege2> hi i suceeded in rotating my display  of my tablet pc but my mouse and also my stylus didn't fit
[01:58] <itissid> Hey i am running a samba server from my 10.10 box on a local home n/w. But my windows machine cant see it when i do a \\192.186.1.8  So how do i trouble shoot?
[01:58] <portege2> someone an idea what to do
[01:59] <Kayne> dasei are you still here ?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> itissid: can you ping the IP?
[01:59] <DasEi> Kayne: sure
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> itissid: if you run:  smbtree on the samba server, do you see the shares listed?
[02:00] <unknown> brb, thank you all
[02:01] <itissid> ActionParsnip, smbtree does not show anythong
[02:02] <Kayne> okay  unbutu is working on my desktop, but I tried to access the broken drive, and i can't find it , i even took it out and made it a usb driver again, but nothing  how do i find the drive.
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> itissid: then the shares are not right
[02:03] <crankharder> how do I change/update the MOTD?
[02:03] <crankharder> e.g., say I want the results of some command to be added to it
[02:03] <daviddoria> I think i have some bad sectors - see the error at the top here: http://pastebin.com/nWPah2Yt - it says that over and over while booting and takes 20 minutes to boot and then is horribly sluggish. - I tried to run fsck.ext4 -fyv /dev/sda1 but it seemed to "work" but didn't fix the problem. Any other flags to fsck to try?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> crankharder: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ssh-welcome-banner-on-ubuntu/
[02:06] <crankharder> ActionParsnip: I doubt that - my /etc/motd is a text file, there are no commands in there
[02:06] <crankharder> for example, it contains "12 packages can be updated." instead of whatever command generated that line
[02:06] <crankharder> also, I can google quite well myself
[02:09] <Kayne> hello?
[02:09] <aeon-ltd> Kayne: yes?
[02:10] <Kayne> I was waiting for  dasei to tell me what to do next.
[02:10] <Kayne> ehhh I finally got Unbutu working on my desktop, buti can't see the drive i couldnt see in windows
[02:10] <Kayne> is ther a way to find it in unbutu ?
[02:11] <DasEi> Kayne: ah, sorry, you pust nick in waht you say or I wan't realize when in another tab, yes :
[02:11] <rewt> Kayne, see if `fdisk -l` lists it, and if so, you can mount it
[02:11] <Flannel> Kayne: try sudo fdisk -l (thats a lowercase L)
[02:11] <DasEi> Kayne: sudo fdisk -l , which partiton is the win one ?
[02:12] <The_Pugilist> anyone have any experience setting up a teamspeak 3 server on ubuntu?
[02:12] <Kayne> wait this is a secondary drive not the main one
[02:12] <adnap> i am back here to hopefully get assistance with my wireless card
[02:12] <adnap> DasEi: are you still there?
[02:12] <DasEi> adnap: yes
[02:12] <Kayne> and  i took it out of the  tower, and made it a usb drive instead but  i am still not seeing it
[02:13] <adnap> DasEi: can you explain to me how to install the older versions of the software that might possibly fix my wireless?
[02:13] <adnap> DasEi: i have added the backports repos to my sources file
[02:13] <Kayne> that and i don't know how to fdisk
[02:14] <adnap> DasEi: my wireless driver is actually included in the linux kernel
[02:14] <DasEi> Kayne: terminal open ?
[02:14] <adnap> DasEi: so, i think i actually need to roll back the kernel.  is that correct?
[02:15] <DasEi> adnap: get a linux-live usb with lucid, find correct modul on working wifi, blacklist the others, prbly copy the lucid module to usb
[02:15] <DasEi> adnap: you just need the correct driver btw the wrong one blacklisted
[02:15] <Kayne> how would i find that out ?
[02:16] <DasEi> !terminal
[02:16] <adnap> DasEi: what does blacklisting do?  does it prevent me from getting future updates to the driver?
[02:16] <DasEi> adnap: no, that prevents a faulty driver to be used by upstart btw the os
[02:17] <adnap> DasEi: how do i blacklist something?
[02:17] <adnap> DasEi: what am i blacklisting exactly?  a specific kernel module?
[02:18] <DasEi> adnap: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf , yes the faulty current natty module (lsmod lists them)
[02:19] <trakinas> gtg. bye all
[02:19] <DasEi> Kayne: terminal open ?
[02:20] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Ok so i confiured the /etc/samba/samba.conf here it is http://piratepad.net/C54dBATvS6
[02:20] <adnap> DasEi: and how can i blacklist a specific version of the driver?  the driver goes by "iwlagn" on both ubuntu versions
[02:21] <itissid> Then i added a user using sudo smbpasswd -a <USER>
[02:22] <nasuta> mooo
[02:22] <DasEi> adnap: hm, they should be different, which chip was that again ?
[02:22] <DasEi> adnap: sudo lshw -C network
[02:23] <Kayne> how do i know if the terminal is open ? i don't know what to look for ?
[02:24] <adnap> DasEi: it's an intel ultimate-n 5300 wifi card
[02:25] <denix_> hola
[02:25] <klown> Kayne, press control alt t..thats a terminal window
[02:25] <bazhang> !es | denix_
[02:25] <denix_> hello
[02:25] <denix_> hello friends
[02:26] <Kayne> okay, now what?
[02:27] <klown> Kayne, I'm not sure what you were trying to do.  You just stated you didn't know what it looked like..Now you know :)
[02:27] <boozie> can I ask a super noob question?
[02:27] <klown> ask away.
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> itissid: there are no shares defined there
[02:28] <luis_> hola
[02:28] <boozie> can I run windows programs under ubuntu without problems?
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> boozie: some yes, others no
[02:28] <klown> Depends on the programs boozie
[02:28] <luis_> hi
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> !appdb
[02:28] <boozie> like games and apps
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> boozie: depends on the app, the version of the app and the version of wine
[02:29] <boozie> thanks ActionParsnip!
[02:29] <klown> your so quick on the responses ActionParsnip :D
[02:29] <boozie> and you too klown
[02:29] <Kayne> okay now how do i find this god forsaken drive?
[02:29] <bazhang> fdisk -l Kayne
[02:29] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Ok I just put in a new share and this is what sudo testparam returns http://piratepad.net/C54dBATvS6
[02:29] <tortib> I have a java app that uses X and requires access to the display :0 that is running on the machine, for some reason i have to add xhost +local:all as root before my user can run this java app as my regular user and not root, how am I able to set xhost +local:all permantely?
[02:29] <DasEi> Kayne: by following hints; terminal open ?
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> itissid: http://pastie.org/2050261
[02:30] <cwheeler> Hi, how do I update my kernel source?
[02:30] <Kayne> yes  terminal is now open
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> itissid: see the last 20 lines or so, those are my shares
[02:30] <bazhang> Kayne, then type in that command
[02:30] <DasEi> Kayne: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[02:30] <DasEi> Kayne: give resulting url here
[02:31] <boozie> can I install ubuntu over windows without losing my data?
[02:31] <Kayne> okay  going to the other computer
[02:31] <boozie> noob question I know
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> itissid: if you restart the smbd service, do you see the shares in smbtree
[02:31] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Sadly no..
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> boozie: no, the partitions will be formatted
[02:31] <luis_> alguien habla español?
[02:31] <DasEi> boozie: not over, but besides, if hd has enugh space and you defragged the win before
[02:31] <smw> !es | lu
[02:31] <bazhang> boozie, no, unless you want to install inside of windows using wubi
[02:31] <smw> !es | luis_
[02:31] <itissid> ActionParsnip, so you can see that share in the pirate pad... It looks ok ..
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> itissid: seems ok, could copy mine then modify as you require
[02:32] <DasEi> !dualboot | boozie
[02:32] <bazhang> !wubi | boozie
[02:32] <voss749> boozie if you have windows and just want to try out ubuntu you can always use virtualbox
[02:32] <tortib> can someone help me with X on ubuntu?  I have a java app that requires access to display :0 I have already exported DISPLAY=:0 and it isn't working i have to run xhost +local:all in order to have the java app i'm using access the display as my normal user, I want to set the xhost +local:all each time i boot up but it requires root to do so...
[02:32] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Okay Trying
[02:32] <boozie> though so...thank you again for all the help bazhang and ActionParsnip et al
[02:33] <sarthor> HI, i am not able to run my dhcp, my configuration is here, please guide me if some friend afford to give a little time,  http://pastebin.com/geuNCfLf using ubuntu server 11.04
[02:33] <tortib> I have a java app that uses X and requires access to the display :0 that is running on the machine, for some reason i have to add xhost +local:all as root before my user can run this java app as my regular user and not root, how am I able to set xhost +local:all permantely?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> itissid: keep your original file copied out so you can roll back
[02:34] <Kayne> it says  E: " couldn't find package Pastebinit"
[02:34] <klown> lowercase p, Kayne
[02:34] <mac9416> Hey, can one create a bootable USB from within a live CD? Or must one have the ISO handy?
[02:34] <boozie> bazhang can I PM?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> Kayne: linux is VERY case sensitive
[02:34] <bazhang> boozie, ask here please
[02:35] <boozie> well it is not really a question...
[02:35] <tortib> I have a java app that uses X and requires access to the display :0 that is running on the machine, for some reason i have to add xhost +local:all as root before my user can run this java app as my regular user and not root, how am I able to set xhost +local:all permantely?
[02:35] <Kayne> I typed it all in lowercase complete with spaces
[02:35] <boozie> nm
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> !info pastebinit
[02:36] <DasEi> Kayne: sudo fdisk -l, that will be partner repos not enabled
[02:36] <bazhang> boozie, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat if you wish
[02:36] <boozie> bazhang I was going to give you something....
[02:36] <DasEi> Kayne:can you tell which parti is your windows one ?
[02:37] <Kayne>  i am not looking for the windows partition . I am looking for the second disk. i have no problems witht he disk where windows is stored
[02:38] <timboy> I installed ubuntu on my laptop and the sound is super quiet. alsamixer shows it's up all of the way, I don't know what else to check. anyone seen something like this before?
[02:38] <DasEi> Kayne: anyway, whe need the identifier of that parti, and
[02:38] <DasEi> !who
[02:39] <lunzie> help, i did an update; on reboot system cant see critical /var/lib folders/files, so ureadahead terminates and i cant get gdm started or dpkg/network access ... i'm running off a live cd
[02:39] <carlosqueso> timboy: did you make sure that the PCM slider was all the way up? I had the same problem.
[02:40] <timboy> carlosqueso, unfortunately yes it is...
[02:40] <carlosqueso> timboy: oh well..worth a try
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> timboy: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[02:40] <itissid> ActionParsnip, Ok so I rebooted my comp
[02:40] <itissid> and copied the share but smbtree is still nada
[02:41] <Darkenvy> how can I add a user to the sudoers file?
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: just add them to the admin group
[02:41] <DasEi> Kayne: so which /dev/sXX is the desired partiton ?
[02:41] <Darkenvy> I am asking how, a bit more in depth
[02:41] <nasuta> Darkenvy: nano /etc/sudoers
[02:41] <Darkenvy> thanks
[02:41] <Darkenvy> btw vim ftw
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: sudo usermod -a -G admin username
[02:41] <Kayne> I don't know how to tell
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: the user you add can now use sudo and gksudo
[02:42] <Flannel> ActionParsnip, Darkenvy: `adduser user group` is easier and safer
[02:42] <Darkenvy> this did not work
[02:42] <timboy> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/GkRyJ9uP
[02:42] <Darkenvy> the usermod command
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: isn't that for new users only, or does it realize the user already exists?
[02:43] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: "adduser" can be used to add users or add users to groups, it recognizes two forms of syntax
[02:44] <Darkenvy> How do I add a user to the sudoer file while in vim?
[02:44] <Darkenvy> as in where do I put the name?
[02:44] <itissid> ActionParsnip, What about firewalls
[02:44] <DasEi> Kayne: (nick!) sudo fdisk -l, have a look at that output
[02:44] <lunzie> can anyone help with ureadahead boot failures? i can only get as far as the command line with no networking ... both gdm and networking (includ. dpkg/apt) fails
[02:44] <Flannel> Darkenvy: What are you hoping to accomplish by adding the user to sudoers?
[02:45] <Darkenvy> so I can execute my cronjob script not as root
[02:45] <Darkenvy> does it really matter?
[02:45] <DasEi> Kayne: you said it's the second hd, that would be sdb
[02:45] <Kayne> okay hold on a sec
[02:45] <Darkenvy> one thing I hate is people trying to find alternatives when I only ask questions when I can only have it one way ><
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: sweet :)
[02:45] <Flannel> Darkenvy: Yeah, it does, because if you're just trying to give a user the ability to sudo, you don't modify sudoers.
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> itissid: the local machine should still see its own shares
[02:45] <Darkenvy> somone above told me to do so ^
[02:45] <utusan> tortib, have you tried googling it
[02:45] <mmcji> how do i resize a kvm raw image.  I need to reduce the size from 120G to 60G.  Everything I find talks about increasing the size.
[02:46] <itissid> ActionParsnip, YEah something is fucked..
[02:46] <Darkenvy> sudo usermod -a -G admin username did not work btw
[02:46] <Flannel> Darkenvy: They were mistaken, you instead want to add the user that you want to allow to sudo to the admin group.
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> timboy: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=generic     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[02:46] <Flannel> Darkenvy: sudo adduser username admin (where "username" is the user you want to give the ability to sudo to)
[02:46] <Darkenvy> my user is named "admin"
[02:46] <Flannel> er...
[02:46] <Flannel> hmm, I wonder how that works.
[02:47] <Flannel> Darkenvy: alright, well, try sudo adduser admin admin
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> timboy: also try: options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo    if that doesn't help, delete the line you first tried with
[02:47] <Kayne> there is a table that says  Usage, gives some f disks commands, and then there is an options list
[02:47] <Darkenvy> "admin is already a member of admin"
[02:47] <Darkenvy> but I cannot sudo
[02:47] <timboy> ok thx ActionParsnip. will i need to restart after to test?
[02:47] <Flannel> Darkenvy: Are you currently logged in as admin?
[02:47] <dr_willis> You need to Log out/back in after change4ing a users group domnt you?
[02:47] <Kayne> i don't see anything  about sdb
[02:47] <Darkenvy> no as root
[02:48] <adnap> what config file specifies the modules loaded by the kernel at startup?  it doesn't seem to be /etc/rc.conf, and while i've found a file /etc/init/rc.conf, it doesn't seem to have a modules array.
[02:48] <Darkenvy> I cant sudo myself into being able to use sudo by using sudo -_-
[02:48] <Flannel> Darkenvy: can you please pastebin the output of 'id admin'?
[02:48] <dr_willis> Darkenvy,  how did you login as root?
[02:48] <Darkenvy> su
[02:48] <Darkenvy> uid=1000(admin) gid=1000(admin) groups=1000(admin)
[02:48] <Flannel> Darkenvy: Are you using Ubuntu?
[02:49] <Darkenvy> debian
[02:49] <Darkenvy> wait
[02:49] <Darkenvy> lol
[02:49] <Flannel> Darkenvy: You want #debian then.
[02:49] <Darkenvy> you probably wont help me now
[02:49] <bazhang> #debian Darkenvy
[02:49] <Darkenvy> damnit
[02:49] <smw> adnap, /etc/modules and /etc/modprobe.d
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: yep, debian isn't supported here
[02:49] <Darkenvy> I know you know the answer
[02:49] <dr_willis> Darkenvy,  log out - and try loging in as the user you qwant with the rights..
[02:49] <Darkenvy> I NORMALLY run ubuntu exclusivly
[02:49] <AaeRohn> *pokes around* can anyone help me with making a wireless adapter work?
[02:49] <Flannel> Darkenvy: This is set up entirely different than Ubuntu, you don't already have an admin group, and your sudoers file is likely completely different as well.
[02:50] <adnap> smw: can you explain the function that each serves?
[02:50] <smw> adnap, the function each what serves?
[02:50] <nasuta> Darkenvy: debian is better, go on oftc.net #debian
[02:50] <Flannel> Darkenvy: So really, you wouldn't be able to use the help that we would give you anyway.  Go ask in #debian, they can help you much more effectively than we can in this matter.
[02:50] <boozie> thanks again for all the help from everyone! Rock on...
[02:51] <adnap> smw: why did you cite both a file (/etc/modules) and a directory (/etc/modprobe.d)?
[02:51] <nasuta> Darkenvy: #debian on oftc.net is the main chan, on freenode is not the real
[02:51] <smw> adnap, the file contains modules, the directory contains a bunch of files with the same use as the /etc/modules file
[02:52] <Kayne> does any of that help?
[02:52] <utusan> Darkenvy, during install debian will ask you if you want sudo enabled if that's what you want
[02:52] <smw> adnap, each file in /etc/modprobe.d is treated like /etc/modules
[02:52] <adnap> smw: hm.  i looked at the files in /etc/modules and it seems like they are more complicated.  /etc/modules says to simply list names of modules on each line that should be loaded at startup
[02:53] <jimw> stupidly, I upgraded to 11.04 on my Dell mini 1010, but on reboot, I get a purple screen, no cursor, no keyboard response (as best I can tell).  I can ping the box, so something's running.
[02:53] <smw> adnap, and what do the fies in /etc/modprobe.d have?
[02:53] <smw> adnap, ah, they also have kernel options
[02:53] <adnap> smw: hm.  i looked at the files in /etc/modules and it seems like they are more complicated.  /etc/modules says to simply list names of modules on each line that should be loaded at startup'
[02:53] <jimw> Is there some way to get a terminal on this thing?  Or am I locked in GUI hell?
[02:53] <dr_willis> jimw,  try making a new user - see if the system works for them. If so  then its a user setting thats to blame for the problem user.  (use the console and adduser command)
[02:54] <adnap> whoos
[02:54] <adnap> whoops
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> jimw: log in to gnome classic instead
[02:54] <adnap> many of them have things starting with
[02:54] <adnap> "option"
[02:54] <dr_willis> jimw,  theres the 'text' kernel optioon you can give at the grub menu.
[02:54] <dividebyz0> try pressing "ctrl-alt-f2" or something like that to drop into a true shell]
[02:54] <jimw> dr_willis: I never see a grub prompt.
[02:54] <adnap> smw: yep
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> jimw: CTRL+ALT+T may lauch a terminal
[02:54] <dr_willis> jimw,   his the shift key at the proper time and you will.
[02:54]  * dr_willis hates how they auto-hide grub
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: +1
[02:55] <dividebyz0> ;)
[02:55] <smw> adnap, do some googling to learn how options work ;-). You can put a module on each line in a file in modprobe.d
[02:55] <jimw> dr_willis: Will try that.  Ctl Alt T didn't work for me.
[02:55] <dividebyz0> jim, try ctrl-alt-f2
[02:55] <jimw> Thanks guys.  Back in a bit (if this doesn't work!)
[02:55] <dividebyz0> if that doesnt work, something is holding it up
[02:55] <smw> adnap, I believe that both are treated equally. If not, I know that a file moved from /etc/modules to /etc/modeprobe.d/x will have the same effect
[02:56] <Lenin_Cat> My vidoes keep lagging like hell
[02:56] <AgentGreen> sorry
[02:56] <jimw> dr_willis: I got a grub prompt!  I'm off and running!
[02:56] <adnap> smw: okay
 did you get all that?
[02:56] <adnap> smw: i guess the commands given in these files can be quite complicated, but don't have to be, as in /etc/modules
[02:57] <lunzie> hi, i'm having ureadahead problems with my /var/lib folder and cant start gdm and networking on reboot ... now using a live cd
[02:57] <smw> adnap, exactly
[02:59] <franco> hi, where I can find info of the ASLR implementation?
[02:59] <franco> I couldnt foudn annything good
[03:00] <DasEi> !chroot > chuwy
[03:00] <rcmaehl_tty> I've had to restart the x server 6 times in the last 5 minutes. How can I debug what is happening?
[03:00] <DasEi> !info fail2ban > chuwy
[03:00] <AaeRohn> hello, I need help getting my cisco wireless adapter compatable and working with my ubuntu
[03:01] <smw> AaeRohn, did you try the restricted drivers manager?
[03:01] <AaeRohn> smw: the what
[03:01] <AaeRohn> ?
[03:01] <smw> AaeRohn, system -> administration -> additional drivers
[03:01] <smw> AaeRohn, after you plug in the device of course.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: run:  sudo lshw -C network    use the product line to find guides
[03:02] <[snake]> okay... I upgraded to 11.04 and now my windows go blank under certain circumstances (having too many windows open, going into fullscreen videos, etc..). and now I want to fix it. Can I fix this??
[03:02] <AaeRohn> smw, actionparsnip: take note, my ubuntu computer has no internet until I get it to work, I am on my brother's computer and mine atm *goes with smw's suggestin first*
[03:03] <smw> AaeRohn, if you have no internet, how do you plan to install the drivers? lol
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: lshw doesnt need a web connection to run
[03:03] <UcefKH> hi
[03:04] <AaeRohn> smw: I cant use the disc that came with the adapter?
[03:04] <AaeRohn> smw, actionparsnip: it's not a card btw, it's a usb adapter
[03:04] <UcefKH> sure
[03:05] <smw> AaeRohn, no, that is not possible
[03:05] <UcefKH> sure
[03:05] <smw> AaeRohn, the disk was made for windows
[03:05] <UcefKH> no
[03:05] <UcefKH> man dir
[03:05] <UcefKH> man
[03:05] <smw> UcefKH, don't you dare say ndiswrapper lol
[03:05] <UcefKH> lol
[03:06] <AaeRohn> smw: so even if I were to go and get an actual wireless card, I would still need internet to get a driver so I can get on the internet?
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: doesn't matter, it'll still be seen. Also run: lsusb   and the 8 character hex ID will help you find guides
[03:06] <smw> AaeRohn, unless the card has a driver installed in linux. Many cards work out of the box.
[03:07] <jimmie_> Whats the best bittorrent client to use on ubuntu?
[03:07] <[V13]Axel> Quick question everyone. Which do you think is better, FGLRX, or the open source drivers?
[03:08] <smw> jimmie_, transmission comes with ubuntu and works.
[03:08] <UcefKH> 4me trassmission is good
[03:08] <c4pt> anyone know where i can get gusty for powerpc instead of ports.ubuntu.com because its unavailable there
[03:08] <c4pt> ?
[03:08] <UcefKH> have dowladed a lot of movie lom
[03:08] <[V13]Axel> c4pt: Why not just go to the Alternate version section?
[03:08] <DasEi> !maverick > chuwy
[03:08] <DasEi> !maverick > chuwy
[03:09] <smw> c4pt, why would you want gutsy?
[03:09] <DasEi> !lucid > chuwy
[03:09] <[V13]Axel> !maverick | chuwy
[03:09] <smw> jimmie_, I use rtorrent (a cli based torrent client) but transmission works.
[03:09] <c4pt> [V13]Axel, using deboostrap
[03:09] <lunzie> can anyone help with boot recovery? i'm stuck using a live cd atm
[03:10] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: What are you trying to do with boot recovery?
[03:10] <AaeRohn> actionparsnip: it's only seeing my lan, not the wireless adapter
[03:10] <cypha> i'm SSH'd into my ubuntu server, but somehow the password for the SSH session is different than the local one, even though it's apparently the same username
[03:10] <jimmie_> smw: Would you say theres any downside to Transmission over uTorrent?
[03:11] <c4pt> jimmie_, yeah transmission is better
[03:11] <[V13]Axel> cypha: Did you make sure to use the -l <username> flag before the IP address?
[03:11] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: i can only get as far as the command line since gdm fails with ureadahead and dbus errors from missing /var/lib folders/files
[03:11] <smw> jimmie_, I said rtorrent, not utorrent
[03:11] <cypha> i'm SSH'd into my ubuntu server, but somehow the password for the SSH session is different than the local one, even though it's apparently the same username. I can get into both, just not sure why there are two passwords (and I can only use the passwords interchangeably
[03:11] <jimmie_> Hmm
[03:11] <smw> jimmie_, anyways, I suggest transmission for everyone except me :-P
[03:11] <cypha> [V13]Axel, what's that do?
[03:11] <UcefKH> who can help me
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: does lsusb show an ID for it?
[03:11] <jimmie_> Oh
[03:12] <jimmie_> Whys that Smw? :p
[03:12] <aeon-ltd> UcefKH: ask don't ask to ask
[03:12] <UcefKH> am in 10.10
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> UcefKH: use one line please
[03:12] <[V13]Axel> cypha: If the server has a different username than you do on the local PC, then it'll try to login to a non-existant user.
[03:12] <UcefKH> & i have the boring
[03:12] <UcefKH> ok
[03:12] <AaeRohn> parsnip: nothing that says ID
[03:12] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: Hmm. Is this on the CD or the actual PC's file system.
[03:13] <enyawix> is there no precompiled freeradius package?
[03:13] <smw> jimmie_, because I like having an ncurses torrent client. Most would be fine with transmission.
[03:13] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: it's on the harddisk .... where /var is on a separate partition
[03:13] <smw> jimmie_, not to mention rtorrent is easier to script :-P
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: there will be a hex ID, something like ae76:67ab    or somesuch
[03:14] <enyawix> exit
[03:14] <enyawix> quit
[03:14] <UcefKH> & i have the boring unlockLogin keyring every time coming up infnity (seahorse what r u doing) my password is correct & ihave change it due the advise of people on the net & no final result i still have it showing up
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> enyawix: try:  /quit
[03:14] <[V13]Axel> cypha: For example, if my PC has the username 'axel', and my server has the username 'servbuntu', I'll have to use 'ssh -l servbuntu <IP>'
[03:14] <enyawix> die
[03:14] <AaeRohn> either way, it's not my wireless adapter, the lsusb says realtek, the adapter is cisco and/or linksys
[03:15] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: now i'm stuck using a live cd where i am chrooted into my boot partition ... i can give some pastebin results from that
[03:15] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: Well, do you have any idea how it ended up liike that?
[03:15] <cypha> the username is "cypha@cypha-ubuntu" for both of them
[03:15] <cypha> [V13]Axel^^
[03:15] <UcefKH> & i have the boring unlockLogin keyring every time coming up infnity (seahorse what r u doing) my password is correct & ihave change it due the advise of people on the net & no final result i still have it showing up
[03:16] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: afaik, the last thing i did was update my software and my reboot failed since then ... i'm using natty 64-bit with a separated /var partition
[03:16] <rationalOgre> cypha: they both have the same host name?
[03:17] <cypha> yeah
[03:17] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: Perhaps it's not able to mount the partition of /var?
[03:17] <rationalOgre> ...
[03:17] <cypha> i can log into both
[03:17] <cypha> so is there any way I can check what's going on ?
[03:17] <[V13]Axel> cypha: That's your problem-- They can't have identical hostnames.
[03:17] <UcefKH> help me plzzz
[03:17] <cypha> you mean they can have
[03:18] <UcefKH>  i have the boring unlockLogin keyring every time coming up infnity (seahorse what r u doing) my password is correct & ihave change it due the advise of people on the net & no final result i still have it showing up
[03:18] <smw> [V13]Axel, why not?
[03:18] <rationalOgre> cypha: No, he means they should not have.
[03:18] <cypha> there's only 1 "cypha" directory in the home directory
[03:18] <rationalOgre> That's the user name
[03:18] <cypha> yeah
[03:18] <UcefKH> why not
[03:18] <UcefKH> no
[03:18] <rationalOgre> cypha: cypha-ubuntu is the host
[03:18] <[V13]Axel> smw: Because they use that in creating the session.
[03:18] <UcefKH> yes
[03:18] <cypha> so why are there two passwords? one for the local and one for ssh
[03:19] <UcefKH> realy
[03:19] <rationalOgre> cypha: do they both have the same password on each boxen?
[03:19] <[V13]Axel> cypha: There shouldn't be.
[03:19] <smw> UcefKH, I don't read any text written poorly on this chat. You may get more help if you write up your question properly.
[03:19] <cypha> rationalOgre, they have individual passwords, and not interchangeable
[03:20] <UcefKH> who r u to tell me that
[03:20] <UcefKH> smw
[03:20] <[V13]Axel> smw: That was rude.
[03:20] <cypha> ssh'ing from a 2nd computer requires the same password as on the other SSH
[03:20] <UcefKH> r u from usa ?
[03:20] <[V13]Axel> smw: If he wants to type using that, he can.
[03:21] <[V13]Axel> UcefKH: He was simply stating that it makes you look ignorant when you don't take the extra two seconds to type properly.
[03:21] <smw> [V13]Axel, yes he can.
[03:21] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: tru, /var folders cant mount on the filesystem but can using live cd ... except /var/lib turn up empty (which seems to be the culprit, from surfing)
[03:21] <cypha> oohh, here's a question, can the root password be changed even if you're ssh'ed in?
[03:21] <lunzie> everytime i boot i consistently get the following errors (that seem dependent on accessing /var/lib):
[03:21] <rationalOgre> cypha: so, let me see if I got this straight. You are on boxen-1 on the cypha account, you ssh to boxen-2 and log in to the cypha account on that, and has it's own password.
[03:21] <lunzie> init: ureadahead-other main process (...) terminated with status 4
[03:21] <lunzie> init: ureadahead main process (...) terminated with status
[03:21] <lunzie> init: dbus pre-start process (...) terminated with status 1
[03:21] <UcefKH> extra
[03:21] <UcefKH> !!
[03:21] <[V13]Axel> !pastebin | lunzie
[03:21] <UcefKH> thx gays bye
[03:21] <cypha> rationalOgre, can the root password be changed even if you're ssh'ed in?
[03:21] <smw> [V13]Axel, it does not just make you look ignorant. It becomes work to read :-P
[03:21] <cypha> so, thus changed remotely
[03:21] <UcefKH> so work
[03:22] <UcefKH> kids
[03:22] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: sorry, i'm kinda still a newbie *blush*
[03:22] <[V13]Axel> smw: I only see 'TXT' speak when it's ignorant people in my area.
[03:22] <UcefKH> how old r u
[03:22] <[V13]Axel> !ot | UcefKH
[03:22] <cypha> rationalOgre, because if it can't be, that would explain the remote password being different (since I tried changing the password once)
[03:22] <UcefKH> i use sh when i knock on th **s
[03:22] <UcefKH> ok bye
[03:22] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: i dont have any pastebin for my reboots, but i have a pastebin for chroot activities on live cd: http://pastebin.com/qYAwWwLh
[03:23] <afeijo> I have a new virtualbox ubuntu server, I started it now but it has no network? I checked the interfaces file, its ok, I ran sudo dhclient, but still it didnt come back. What else?
[03:23] <UcefKH> one simple question
[03:23] <rationalOgre> cypha: I believe it can be, but it might require configuring sshd in such a way as to make it possible.
[03:23] <UcefKH> how can i make my own irc channel
[03:24] <smw> UcefKH, join the new channel you want to create
[03:24] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: That's all fine-- I had to learn the rules once too. Anyway, I personally am not that in-depth skilled. However, my first thought is to perhaps copy the /var/lib from the CD's File System.
[03:24] <rationalOgre> cypha: however, if they are both ubuntu boxen you shouldn't be messing with root passwords anyway.
[03:24] <smw> UcefKH, then you can register with chanserv. type /msg chanserv help
[03:24] <cypha> rationalOgre, win7
[03:24] <smw> UcefKH, you can get support in #freenode
[03:24] <UcefKH> it is free ?
[03:25] <smw> UcefKH, of course
[03:25] <rationalOgre> cypha: What of it?
[03:25] <UcefKH> thx body
[03:25] <smw> UcefKH, although, you should make it ##whatever unless it is an official channel
[03:25] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: when i chroot to my boot partition sda1 in live cd, the /var partition sda10 automatically mounts as well (but with no /var/lib)
[03:25] <UcefKH> i'll make it #kungfupandachannel
[03:26] <smw> UcefKH, why not. Have fun
[03:26] <rationalOgre> lunzie: did you fsck sda10?
[03:26] <UcefKH> :)
[03:26] <aeon-ltd> UcefKH: though to avoid spammers and unwanted guests i'd sugget not posting its name
[03:28] <UcefKH> realy thx for advise
[03:28] <UcefKH> but can keep it for long time
[03:29] <lunzie> rationalOgre: yes, i tried fsck but didnt turn up any disk errors .... only the ureadahead and dbus fails i mentioned (that comes with every boot)
[03:30] <LekeFly> I have created a startup script that should run in terminal.. how can i see the output?
[03:30] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: how do i msg more than 1 person at at time on here?
[03:31] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: What do you mean, make a chat message that flags more than one user?
[03:31] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: In the main channel?
[03:31] <tiox> I had just used a piece of software to check if my computer is capable of running Compiz (I know it is, but I was wondering why some things were not working) and I had just discovered Ubuntu uses vesa video drivers in 11.04.
[03:31] <UcefKH> hey guys how can i recieve free stickers if they are free ones ?
[03:31] <smw> LekeFly, depends, do you want the output in a file?
[03:31] <rationalOgre> lunzie: pastebin relevant lines from /var/log/dmesg?
[03:31] <tiox> I want to use Xorg for video. Any way i can do that?
[03:32] <LekeFly> smw: no i just want to see it live : )
[03:32] <smw> LekeFly, or you could have the script started in a gnome-terminal
[03:32] <lunzie> [V13]Axel: yes, flag more than 1 user with a msg
[03:32] <smw> LekeFly, gnome-terminal -c "path/to/script"
[03:32] <rationalOgre> LekeFly: You could use something like tmux or screen
[03:32] <LekeFly> smw: this is what i have.. but its not doing anything :p gnome-terminal -e "bash --rcfile /home/user/miner1.sh"
[03:32] <smw> LekeFly, however, it will quit when the script quits
[03:33] <smw> LekeFly, maybe it is starting and then quiting?
[03:33] <afeijo> figured it out! no idea why but eth0 was renamed to eth1, lol
[03:34] <[V13]Axel> lunzie: I'm guessing just separate their names with commas.
[03:34] <tiox> Oh, for anybody curious about the software, it's called compiz-check. Paste the following:
[03:34] <tiox> wget http://blogage.de/files/70708/download -O compiz-check && chmod +x compiz.check && ./compiz-check
[03:34] <rationalOgre> LekeFly: Though they might be overkill for what you're trying to do.
[03:34] <lunzie> rationalOgre: no dmesg: "cannot access /var/log/dmesg: No such file or directory" using ls
[03:35] <lunzie> rationalOgre: i guess the access problem isnt limited to /var/lib
[03:35] <smw> LekeFly, gnome-terminal -x /home/user/miner1.sh
[03:35] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Looks like.
[03:35] <LekeFly> smw: Just did gnome-terminal -c "path/to/script"    with " < right? didnt work here :p
[03:36] <LekeFly> smw: i can run the script fine by doing ./blabla.sh
[03:36] <smw> LekeFly, ok
[03:36] <UcefKH> hey guys how can i recieve free stickers if they are free ones ?
[03:36] <smw> LekeFly, try with -x blabla.sh
[03:36] <rationalOgre> lunzie: so you can't cd to /var/log
[03:36] <rationalOgre> ?
[03:36] <lunzie> rationalOgre: at any rate, /var seems to be the bottleneck messing up ureadahead, dpkg and dbus
[03:37] <LekeFly> smw: Do i need the path if its in my home folder?
[03:37] <lunzie> rationalOgre: same result when ls /var/log ..... "cannot access /var/log/: No such file or directory"
[03:38] <smw> LekeFly, in theory no
[03:38] <smw> LekeFly, can't hurt
[03:38] <rationalOgre> lunzie: run "mount" with no arguments
[03:38] <cordiceps> 2.8 is enough for an install?
[03:38] <smw> LekeFly, gnome-terminal -e top works for me
[03:39] <UcefKH> no 4Go
[03:39] <john1400> ning
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> cordiceps: if you mean gigabytes then it will be ok but its a real squeeze
[03:39] <rationalOgre> lunzie: anything in there about /dev/sda10 ?
[03:39] <lunzie> rationalOgre: live cd chrooted mount with no args: http://pastebin.com/qSqJvY6Z
[03:40] <rationalOgre> lunzie: ok, so it says it's mounted. try cd /var
[03:40] <[V13]Axel> Why does the boot logo look horrible with FGRLX enabled? It becomes really low-resolution and bad-quality.
[03:41] <lunzie> rationalOgre: yes, it's there; it's there too when i try df -h and fdisk -l
[03:41] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Ok. sudo ls -a
[03:41] <rationalOgre> look for lost+found
[03:42] <tripelb> will this system rescue disk work as well as a liveCD or better? (no need at the moment) http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[03:42] <lunzie> rationalOgre: all ls -a turns up in /var is .  ..  cache  lock  run
[03:43] <rationalOgre> lunzie: wow, that's all kinds of messed up.
[03:44] <rationalOgre> lunzie: you may need to think about copying out your home directory and reinstalling...
[03:44] <stercor> When I use gedit I get several copies of this message: gedit: /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libgtksourceview-2.0.so.0)
[03:44] <LekeFly> smw: Thanks got it working now : )
[03:45] <lunzie> rationalOgre: yup, most folders are missing (and i'm in chroot!)
[03:45] <chuwy> DenEi: i think your name was are you here
[03:45] <a5h15h> how to view all the man pages that are listed in a section?
[03:45] <smw> LekeFly, awesome
[03:45] <lunzie> rationalOgre: i notice when i exit chroot i ls /var turns up some folders: backups  cache  crash  games  lib  local  lock  log  mail  opt  run  spool  tmp
[03:45] <lunzie> weird
[03:46] <rationalOgre> lunzie: is /dev/sda10 still mounted as var?
[03:47] <UcefKH> a realy ysefull command try it now kill -9 -1
[03:47] <rationalOgre> lunzie: you might be seeing the livecd's /var
[03:48] <cypha> how do I run something in the background?
[03:48] <tiox> a5h15h:  man <program>
[03:48] <cypha> putting & at the end of my "/paster serve settings.ini" doesn't work
[03:48] <rationalOgre> cypha: prepend &
[03:48] <tiox> It's a Terminal thing.
[03:48] <cypha> postpend?
[03:49] <lunzie> rationalOgre: probably it is ... i assumed the /var that automatically mounted when i mounted my boot partition belonged to the filesystem, not the cd
[03:49] <smw> cypha, append not postpend ;-)
[03:49] <[V13]Axel> What do you guys prefer, FGLRX, or the open source drivers?
[03:49] <cypha> smw, touche
[03:49] <lunzie> rationalOgre: anyway i can tell them apart?
[03:49] <UcefKH>  run something in the backgroun a realy usefull command try it now kill -9 -1
[03:49] <cypha> rationalOgre, that doesn't work though
[03:49] <rationalOgre> lunzie: check "mount" again and see where it's pulling var from.
[03:49] <cypha> it still runs the server and doesn't return me to a command prompt
[03:49] <Berk> hei
[03:49] <tiox> Some more info on my problem, this is an x64-capable computer. Far as I received a frankenrig.
[03:50] <stercor> But prepend...
[03:50] <rationalOgre> lunzie: if you don't see /dev/sda 10 on /var
[03:50] <rationalOgre> then it's from the cd
[03:50] <tiox> Pentium processor, intel onboard graphics, x64 proc.
[03:50] <rationalOgre> sorry, /dev/sda10
[03:50] <smw> stercor, prepend is technically not a word... but it should be
[03:50] <smw> [V13]Axel, whichever is easier. I use the default driver most of the time
[03:50] <accel> rxvt-unicode and I are about to breakup because it refuses to show unicode characer 22c3. What is a good terminal on ubuntu that is willing to display all unicode characters?
[03:50] <rationalOgre> smw: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prepend
[03:51] <stercor> smw: ah.
[03:51] <smw> rationalOgre, I stand corrected
[03:51] <NictraSavios> smw, Google says it is, good enough for me. Google define: prepend
[03:51] <smw> rationalOgre, is it in a hard dictionary?
[03:51] <rationalOgre> smw: No worries. :)
[03:52] <Jimmie> I could go get my Oxford English from downstairs if you really want confirmation
[03:52] <rationalOgre> smw: Websters.
[03:52] <smw> rationalOgre, sweet :-)
[03:52] <lunzie> rationalOgre: mount turned up /dev/sda10 on /var .... from the filessytem
[03:52] <cypha> okk, so how do I run this in the background?
[03:52] <[V13]Axel> smw: Well, the thing is, I like to go with the one that's better.
[03:52] <smw> cypha, command arg arg &
[03:52] <cypha> doesn't work
[03:53] <rationalOgre> lunzie: curiouser and curiouser.
[03:53] <smw> [V13]Axel, ok, define better. Normally I can't tell the difference
[03:53] <cypha> how do I see the processes that are running again?
[03:53] <smw> [V13]Axel, if the open source driver does not support 3d, then I use the proprietary driver
[03:53] <smw> cypha, jobs
[03:53] <rationalOgre> cypha: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[03:53] <[V13]Axel> smw: More hardware support, more features(Pixel shader, alpha,etc), and causes less problems. Both drivers support 3D on this card.
[03:53] <UcefKH> do kill -9 -1
[03:54] <KayneII> okay. I used the fdisk, it gave me a list, but i still cannot find the drive im looking for. is there any way to find the disk?
[03:54] <UcefKH> axel you entred it thx
[03:54] <smw> UcefKH, please stop trolling
[03:54] <UcefKH> ok
[03:55] <lunzie> rationalOgre: w/e it is, seems the system cant make use of /var to generate files and folders for ureadahead, dpkg and gdm ... what could be blocking /var from use?
[03:55] <UcefKH> ok
[03:56] <lunzie> rationalOgre: /var is in its own partition on my filesystem but this is the first issue i'm having with it from 10.04 to now (natty)
[03:57] <rationalOgre> KayneII: run "sudo lshw -C storage" and see if the drive shows up in there
[03:57] <rationalOgre> lunzie: That should never be a problem.
[03:58] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Pondering
[03:59] <lunzie> rationalOgre: that's what i'm thinking ... the only factors i can think of is the separate partition and the software upgrade, cuz i dunno what else could be blocking /var from use
[03:59] <sarthor> Hi, the old commands of starting / stoping squid, dhcpd, commands are not wroking in my Natty, even service dhcpd restart or service squid restart is also not working, how to do that in Natty?
[03:59] <rationalOgre> lunzie: paste your /etc/fstab
[04:00] <smw> sarthor, sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[04:00] <bullgard4> I bought a computer having 4 GB RAM. I would like to know how much hard disk space should I allocate to a swap partition? I intend to hibernate this laptop computer when need arises.
[04:01] <KayneII> Okay I think that is the SATA Drive, the one with windows . I am looking for the drive that is now a usb the second drive.
[04:01] <sarthor> smw, bash: /etc/init.d/dhcpd: No such file or directory
[04:01] <smw> sarthor, do you have dhcpd installed? is it called dhcp?
[04:01] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, If you plan to hibernate, 5GB, thats = to ram + 25% for bad sectors
[04:02] <sarthor> smw, hcpd -v
[04:02] <sarthor> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server 4.1.1-P1
[04:02] <lunzie> rationalOgre: fstab content http://pastebin.com/Z0ZHz3Vn
[04:02] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, A swap file could be created, though I see no advantage. If you dont pain to hibernate, You don't need one.
[04:02] <NictraSavios> The general rule is , 2x Ram, unless over 1GB, =
[04:02] <NictraSavios> then equal*
[04:02] <smw> sarthor, you need dhcpd installed
[04:03] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, I have kernel crash dumps, I use Arch not ubuntu, so trouble shooting is a must :P
[04:03] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, So i actually have a 10GB swap file.
[04:03] <sarthor> smw,  i showed you DHCP server installed, how to start and stop that server
[04:04] <bullgard4> NictraSavios: What do you mean by "If you don't pain to hibernate"? Say it in other words, please. (My native language is not Englisch.)
[04:04] <smw> sarthor, what is it called? dhcp3 maybe? dhcpd3?
[04:05] <sarthor> smw, dhcp3-server
[04:05] <rationalOgre> lunzie: That's the fstab from your disk? Or from the livecd?
[04:05] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Thinking that's the livecd's.
[04:05] <smw> sarthor, that is the package, is that also the init script?
[04:05] <smw> sarthor, sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp[tab]
[04:06] <sarthor> smw, no init scrip with dhcpd or squid TAB is not working, not completing the word
[04:06] <Xcytre> How do I set permissions on a www directory so I can edit the files with kompozer? the www-data group is the owner of the files.
[04:06] <Xcytre> and I'm in the www-data group
[04:06] <smw> sarthor, are you sure they are installed?
[04:06] <rationalOgre> lunzie: for the actual one I believe you'd have to go to /mnt/etc/fstab
[04:06] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, If you dont plan to hibernate , sorry typo.
[04:06] <rationalOgre> lunzie: since you are not chrooted at the moment.
[04:06] <sarthor> smw, yes, squid is running and dhcpd also
[04:06] <smw> Xcytre, did you logout after adding yourself to the group?
[04:07] <Xcytre> yes.. i've been in that group for a while
[04:07] <smw> sarthor, pastebin the output of ls -l /etc/init.d
[04:07] <evud> Hello. I have apache 2.2 installed currently at my computer, is there a way to downgrade at 2.0 version? I have an old plugin which won't work with new apache
[04:07] <smw> sarthor, paste.pocoo.org
[04:07] <lunzie> rationalOgre: chroot then open fstab then?
[04:07] <NictraSavios> bullgard4, If your not going to use the "hibernate" function, then you don't need one. If you want to be safe, use 5GB, thats my recommendation
[04:07] <rationalOgre> lunzie: No, you can access it still
[04:07] <smw> evud, there is no easy way to do that.
[04:07] <rationalOgre> lunzie: /etc should still be under /mnt
[04:07] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Where you mounted /dev/sda1
[04:08] <evud> smw: but is there a way?
[04:08] <sarthor> smw, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/404364/
[04:08] <BBHood> I have a dual boot setup with Natty and XP on two different discs.  The Live CD can see both discs, but the Natty install can only see the linux disc.  How can I get Natty to see the other disc (preferrably on startup)
[04:08] <smw> evud, obtain it and compile from source
[04:08] <Xcytre> smw i tried chmod 775 on one file and i still couldn't delete it.
[04:08] <YankDownUnder> BBHood, You can edit the /etc/fstab and include it as a mount
[04:09] <smw> Xcytre, type groups
[04:09] <stercor> evud:  I compile Apache all the time.  I can help you.
[04:09] <lunzie> rationalOgre: ok, here's /mnt/etc/fstab ... http://pastebin.com/yJ71WY7m
[04:09] <bullgard4> NictraSavios: Everything understood. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[04:09] <evud> stercor: Ok, thanks! I will give it a shot right now.
[04:10] <evud> smw: Thank you!
[04:10] <UcefKH> enter as root to use chmod
[04:10] <Xcytre> www-data is in the list
[04:10] <smw> sarthor, isc-dhcp-server exists
[04:10] <UcefKH> sudo -s & chmod 777
[04:10] <sarthor> smw, so?
[04:10] <UcefKH> & u wiil dele it
[04:10] <sabgenton> what is the equvalent to ntfsclone
[04:10] <sabgenton> ?
[04:10] <sabgenton> for ext
[04:10] <BBHood> YankDownUnder, how do I get write access to said file?
[04:10] <smw> Xcytre, did you chmod 775 the dir?
[04:10] <sabgenton> or close
[04:10] <Xcytre> no... how do I do that?
[04:10] <sabgenton> just want to ghost ext3 on the command line
[04:10] <BBHood> I can see that it's looking for the disk to be a ext4, when it's actually NTFS
[04:11] <smw> Xcytre, as root. chmod 775 /var/www
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> BBHood, Try: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:11] <stercor> evud: I started a chat session with you.  Do you see it?
[04:11] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Did you copy the whole file? Cause I see the last line says # /var was on /dev/sda10 during installation but then I see no corresponding UUID line
[04:11] <Xcytre> OK.. cool, thanks
[04:11] <HelloWorld321> I've got a problem with Samba shares on an Ubuntu system.  The Ubuntu system can see the other computers.  The other systems can see the Ubuntu system on the network, but can't browse it's shares.  The Ubuntu system CAN browse its own Samba shares at smb://127.0.0.1/ but CANNOT browse its own Samba shares at smb://localhost/ ... anybody got any tips or tests to try?
[04:11] <sarthor> smw, so for squid
[04:11] <smw> sarthor, squid seems to point to upstart...
[04:11] <rationalOgre> lunzie: so where's line 20?
[04:11] <rationalOgre> :)
[04:11] <sarthor> smw, yes do
[04:11] <NictraSavios> rationalOgre, 20 lines down.
[04:12] <smw> sarthor, sudo /etc/init.d/squid start does not work?
[04:12] <sarthor> smw, worked
[04:12] <rationalOgre> NictraSavios: Thanks for that. :P
[04:12] <ZykoticK9> sabgenton, i'd recommend the clonezilla iso for actually disk cloning, but i think the command you're asking about is dd
[04:12] <Xcytre> smw - i think that did it!... Thanks!
[04:12] <BBHood> ok, I'll try that, restarting!
[04:13] <ZykoticK9> sabgenton, s/iso/livecd/
[04:13] <franco> hi, where I can find info about ASLR implementation?
[04:13] <servulo> hello
[04:13] <servulo> hello
[04:14] <servulo> never seen this messaging program, very cool
[04:14] <sabgenton> ZykoticK9: dd is not smart
[04:14] <sabgenton> I can dd ntfs for example
[04:14] <sabgenton> but ntfsclone only copys ntfs parts of the partion
[04:14] <sabgenton> so its faster
[04:14] <lunzie> rationalOgre: whoops, keep thinking the terminal is a gedit or something, lol .... here's the full content: http://pastebin.com/nDGWnw6r
[04:14] <ZykoticK9> sabgenton, dd is filesystem independent
[04:14] <sabgenton> much faster
[04:14] <sabgenton> ZykoticK9: I don't want independent it's not as fast
[04:15] <NictraSavios> lunzie, It can be, type vim and then some file
[04:15] <NictraSavios> lunzie, vim is a console text editor :D
[04:15] <lunzie> NictraSavios: i'm using nano
[04:15] <sabgenton> ZykoticK9: ntfsclone for example can clone ntfs (they call it smart copy opposed to plain dd) to an image file that is still raw
[04:15] <lunzie> NictraSavios: simpler for me  ;)
[04:15] <sabgenton> still mountable
[04:15] <sabgenton> with mount
[04:16] <sabgenton> say you had heps of free space at the end it just zeros that space unstead of copying all the junk bits
[04:16] <sabgenton> there must be this for ext3
[04:17] <lunzie> rationalOgre: i have no idea how to interpret fstab but i'm wondering if there could be a UUID mismatch somewhere in the filesystem
[04:17] <cordiceps> 2.8 is enough for an install?
[04:17] <cordiceps> GB
[04:17] <Bsims> Ok I's annoyed my dvd isn't working, I can eject it with /dev/dvd but it acts like there is nothing in the drive
[04:18] <Bsims> any idea?
[04:18] <rationalOgre> lunzie: So it looks like that's all ok. Just for kicks run "blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sda10" and compare it. Just to be sure.
[04:18] <NictraSavios> lunzie, I wont lie, I still prefer nano
[04:19] <ubuntu__> lol
[04:20] <ubuntu__> hallo
[04:20] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Have you tried cleaning the drive?
[04:20] <ubuntu__> no wary
[04:20] <tyler1234567> on ubuntu 10.10 can i create a launcher for chatzilla.. its a firefox addon
[04:21] <ubuntu__> why me not speaks
[04:21] <Bsims> its clean YankDownUnder, I commented out the entry old in fstab...
[04:21] <lunzie> rationalOgre: the blkid command turned up the same UUID as in fstab: dd639e3f-7077-47af-809f-6fb1331dee6d
[04:21] <cordiceps> yoo, what's the minimum space required for ubuntu install?
[04:21] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: it shows in sudo lshw -C disk
[04:21] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Ok. So there's no problems with the fstab entry for mounting the disk then.
[04:21] <Bsims> it should work damn it
[04:21] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Does it manually mount all right?
[04:22] <BBHood> what's the command for viewing all the connected disks and their file system types?
[04:22] <smw> BBHood, mount
[04:22] <bullgard4> I bought a laptop computer. I need to format its 500 GB before installing Ubuntu. What is the advantage to create a partition for /home?
[04:23] <lunzie> rationalOgre: yet /var cant be accessed for use and bootup
[04:23] <ubuntu__> oh me it's me
[04:23] <smw> bullgard4, you can replace the OS without replacing your data
[04:23] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: bsims@c933657-a:~$ sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0
[04:23] <Bsims> mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[04:23] <cordiceps> lunzie: don't use uid use /dev/sda10, there done.
[04:23] <BBHood> hmm, it doesn't see my windows disk
[04:24] <rationalOgre> cordiceps: sorry, not the right answer. Thanks though
[04:24] <smw> BBHood, that is a list of MOUNTED partitions
[04:24] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Eeeek...not good mate.
[04:24] <BBHood> derp
[04:24] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: I know any clue
[04:24] <BBHood> is there a command to see partitions that aren't mounted?
[04:25] <tyler1234567> on ubuntu 10.10 can i create a launcher for chatzilla.. its a firefox addon
[04:25] <lunzie> cordiceps: use /dev/sda10 where? i havent been using uid ... if u mean when mounting and chrooting
[04:25] <Bsims> Ok it works for audo cds
[04:25] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Have you tried to "add" the device in yer /etc/fstab and reboot mate?
[04:25] <smw> BBHood, sudo fdisk -l /dev/whatever
[04:25] <smw> BBHood, where whatever is the hard drive you want to look at
[04:25] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: how?
[04:25] <rationalOgre> lunzie: He's talking about reverting /etc/fstab to use /dev/sda10 instead of the UUID, but that's not the right answer/solution.
[04:25] <smw> BBHood, sda is probably what you want
[04:25] <tensorpudding> tyler1234567: what would this do?
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> BBHood, actually use "sudo fdisk -l" will list all partitions fdisk sees.
[04:26] <Bsims> how do I get the UUIS
[04:26] <Bsims> er UUID
[04:26] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Hang on a tick mate...looking for something...
[04:26] <tyler1234567> tensorpudding, prevent me from having to open firefox first
[04:26] <tensorpudding> tyler1234567: not likely
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> Bsims, "sudo blkid"
[04:26] <dinesh> hi friends
[04:26] <Bsims> heh Ok
[04:26] <rationalOgre> lunzie: The reason for using UUID's is to make it so in case something changes in the drivers or whatnot, the filesystem will still be mounted properly.
[04:26] <bullgard4> smw: I do not intend to replace my OS in the sense that I will stay with Ubuntu. Do you mean that upgrading to another Ubuntu version is made more safe when having my own /home partition?
[04:26] <lunzie> rationalOgre: gotcha ... i rather leave the system language as i found it
[04:26] <Bsims> now working with a copied dvd but not a burned store one
[04:27] <tyler1234567> tensorpudding, what client do you use
[04:27] <tensorpudding> tyler1234567: client?
[04:27] <tyler1234567> irc chat client
[04:27] <dinesh> i unable to install my canon printer in ubuntu 11.04. ( canon MF4320D)
[04:27] <tyler1234567> program
[04:27] <smw> ZykoticK9, very cool. Next time highlight the person you are correcting as well :-)
[04:27] <BBHood> ok.  now to get it to mount on startup, would I put the whole "HPFS/NTFS" in the type field in the fstab?
[04:27] <tensorpudding> tyler1234567: it's smuxi
[04:27] <Bsims> Grr not listed with blkid
[04:27] <tyler1234567> k ill try that
[04:27] <kbrosnan> tyler1234567: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Command_Line_Options#Chrome and the correct chrome document
[04:27] <NictraSavios> dinesh, | !problem
[04:27] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Check this mate: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+question/23415
[04:28] <NictraSavios> !problem | dinesh
[04:28] <NictraSavios>  :p
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> smw, sorry man ;)
[04:28] <dinesh> canon MF4320d driver
[04:28] <smw> ZykoticK9, sorry?! That is an awesome command. thanks :-)
[04:29] <rationalOgre> lunzie: If you have a backup drive your best bet would be to copy out your /home directory and do a clean install
[04:29] <ZykoticK9> smw, sorry "for not highlighting you" ;)
[04:29] <rationalOgre> lunzie: At this point, i have no clue what has gone wrong.
[04:29] <drawmeat> Please help.  My log folder in my var directory is creating huge syslog and kern.log files (11.6gb) each in a matter of hours.  I only have a 30gb hard drive so this is a serious problem.  I deleted them once and did sudo apt-get install logrotate and it still happened again.  Any ideas wise ones?
[04:29] <rationalOgre> drawmeat: have you looked at the logs to see what they are filling up with?
[04:30] <doncams> hi... is there a way so that when I resize a window, I see the contents?
[04:30] <lunzie> rationalOgre: omg, that's what i was dreading ... all because of /var, it seems
[04:30] <cordiceps> wtdaah... 4.6 gigs??
[04:30] <drawmeat> rationalOgre, i'm a total noob, so i tried double clicking them and it says it can't allocate that much bytes to view the files
[04:30] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: done that, it will read burned dvds not pressed
[04:30] <lunzie> rationalOgre: last time i had a broken upgrade (to 10.10) i had to do the same .... too many reinstalls
[04:31] <Bsims> which does me no good darn it
[04:31] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Pressed?
[04:31] <Bsims> Yup
[04:31] <Bsims> and it just worked, till k9copy started throwing errors at me
[04:31] <rationalOgre> drawmeat: open a terminal and type tail /var/log/syslog
[04:31]  * YankDownUnder checks the ironing board to see if wife is ironing DVD's
[04:31] <Bsims> it won't read a factory made dvd
[04:32] <lunzie> rationalOgre: ok, i'll post a bug in launchpad as a final ditch attempt .... cuz that's where i had to resort to wiping and reinstalling everything, yikes!
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, AH....right...gotcha mate...
[04:32] <rationalOgre> lunzie: I'm sorry man. Perhaps someone else would better be able to help you but I dunno. that seems hella odd. I can't think of why it's happening.
[04:32] <tyler1234567> kbrosnan, thank you
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, As before stated, have you run a CD/DVD cleaning disk through the drive mate?
[04:32] <drawmeat> rationalOgre, kernel: [35140.202220] Either the lower file is not in a valid eCryptfs format, or the key could not be retrieved. Plaintext passthrough mode is not enabled; returning -EIO (over and over and over)
[04:32] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: I am tempted to plug in the old one back in
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, I'd give it a go mate...
[04:32] <lunzie> rationalOgre: appreciated ur assistance, thanks
[04:33] <Arroyo1010> Hello. I have just finished upgrading Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 via the updater. After the reboot Ubuntu hangs on  logo. I tried restarting the VM, and the same happens. Hang on Ubuntu logo
[04:33] <Bsims> YankDownUnder: not at this time of night, I assumed it was erroring out trying to read a copyprotected disk
[04:33] <YankDownUnder> Bsims, Shouldn't do mate..."reading" a disk, nah.
[04:33] <Arroyo1010> I am not a linux noob, I just need a good pointer in which direction to go now, what to troubleshoot first, and how
[04:33] <dinesh> any networking expert
[04:33] <Bsims> well copy protection often uses bad sectors so yeah it can crap out a drive temporarily
[04:34] <bullgard4> smw: I do not intend to replace my OS in the sense that I will stay with Ubuntu. Do you mean that upgrading to another Ubuntu version is made more safe when having my own /home partition?
[04:34] <bazhang> dinesh, ##networking
[04:34] <smw> !anyone > dinesh
[04:34] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, on the grub2 screen (hold shift if you don't see it) use "e" to edit the boot line - and try removing "quite splash" and/or try "nomodeset" - then i think ctrl+x to boot (but not 100% sure on that, it says what to use to boot)
[04:35] <smw> bullgard4, ubuntu (I believe) allows you to reinstall without overwriting /home
[04:35] <bazhang> Arroyo1010, this is a vm? why not just get the most recent iso and install from that
[04:35] <bullgard4> smw: Thank you very much for your judgement.
[04:35] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 will try now. bazhang  because i'm trying to see how reliable is updating via updater :)
[04:35] <Arroyo1010> so far: not so good. Also: i don't like giving up
[04:35] <smw> bullgard4, however, a separate /home allows you to separate users from system. If a stupid user fills up the disk, the system will be unaffected
[04:36] <smw> bullgard4, I use a separate /home because I never know what OS I will install next. I think I will be leaving ubuntu soon ;-)
[04:36] <smw> bullgard4, it is also useful if you have multiple OSes
[04:36] <lunzie> rationalOgre: i dunno why ubuntu filesystem couldnt be as stable as the live cd! (half j/k) .... wonder if it's a 64-bit problem?
[04:37] <doncams> hi... is there a way so that when I resize a window, I see the contents?
[04:37] <dinesh> need help in networking
[04:37] <deww> doncams: alt-F8
[04:37] <smw> !aks > dinesh
[04:37] <smw> !ask > dinesh
[04:38] <doncams> deww, doesn't help
[04:38] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9: How do i save my edit in this grub editor?
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, you cant
[04:38] <Arroyo1010> so, what do i do now?
[04:38] <bullgard4> smw: How much size should I allocate to my /home partition? The hdd size is 500 GB.
[04:38] <Arroyo1010> how do i exit with changes being applied?
[04:39] <doncams> this is going to irritate some but I mean like in "windows" when you resize a window
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, edit /etc/default/grub when you've booted.  Use ctrl+x (or something?) to boot.
[04:39] <rationalOgre> drawmeat: So, apparently when you installed you used the encrypted filesystem option.
[04:39] <Arroyo1010> but you told me to edit the boot line by using E on grub
[04:39] <Arroyo1010> i have edited it out
[04:39] <Arroyo1010> what do i press now? :)
[04:39] <deww> doncams: yeah alt-f8 works a little like alt-space-resize or whatever in windows
[04:39] <smw> bullgard4, up to you. I give between 40GB to /, 2 x Ram for swap, and the rest is home
[04:39] <dinesh> #ubuntu how to do networking in ubuntu
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, right and after you've edited i think is says at the bottom ctrl+x to boot (but i could be wrong)
[04:39] <AgentGreen> samba
[04:40] <Arroyo1010> k let me check
[04:40] <smw> bullgard4, you can then leave 50GB at the end for playing with other OSes :-)
[04:40] <rationalOgre> drawmeat: This is a known bug with that. Still being worked on. (Actually: It's unassigned.) Your best option is to reinstall but NOT use encryption.
[04:40] <Arroyo1010> sorry, you are correct
[04:40] <bullgard4> smw: I see. Thank you.
[04:40] <Arroyo1010> thank you ZykoticK9
[04:40] <doncams> no, there is only an orange transparent rectangle which you can resize
[04:40] <doncams> but you don't see window
[04:40] <smw> bullgard4, you need to decide which of my habits you think makes sense ;-)
[04:40] <bullgard4> smw: Yes.
[04:40] <rationalOgre> lunzie: Like I said, it doesn't make sense but perhaps someone out there knows more than I do about what has gone wrong.
[04:41] <deww> doncams: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:42] <Arroyo1010> Ok, the last entry i see while booting without splash is "Checking Battery state OK", and a blinking cursor beneath
[04:42] <Arroyo1010> any ideas anyone? :)
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, give "nomodeset" a try.
[04:43] <Arroyo1010> on it
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, is this a VM?
[04:44] <Arroyo1010> yes ZykoticK9
[04:44] <AgentGreen> virtual machine
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, doubt nomodeset is you issue then.
[04:45] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 , yes, same thing happened :)
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, TBH upgrading and ubuntu often results in breakages.  Many experienced Ubuntu users will recommend fresh installs over upgrades (obviously some will disagree).
[04:46] <sam350> hey all.  After package upgrade Apache2 will not show index.html or index.php in subfolders of my sites-available
[04:46] <Arroyo1010> thank you very much ZykoticK9 for your help. This is probably the 30th time i hear the exact same advice. I just wanted to give it a go :)
[04:46] <sam350> but the root folder does show index.html
[04:47] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, you're very welcome.  Hope you figure it out!  Good luck.
[04:47] <sam350> I can indeed hit www.myserver.com/foo/index.html  but if I hit www.myserver.com/foo I get 'The page you were looking for does not exist'
[04:48] <Arroyo1010> Oh, i'm done figuring it out. I could end up chasing infinite broken stuff. I will just reinstall it with the full iso :)
[04:48] <sam350> anyone have ideas? I'm searching everywhere
[04:48] <rationalOgre> sam350: You need to configure apache to serve a default file
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> sam350, does Apache have some "default" page switch or something (i haven't played with apache in years)
[04:49] <rationalOgre> sam350: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex
[04:50] <grmrgecko> Ok, lets see here. I have a Windows 7 Netbook and I want to install Ubuntu, I made 2 additional partitions on it (CD and ubuntu install) and I have the ubuntu ISO. How do I put the Ubuntu ISO on a partition so I can install Ubuntu? I know all of this is easy if it was ubuntu to begin with...
[04:50] <grmrgecko> The netbook has no CD drive/Flopy drive and my USB sticks won't boot.
[04:50] <grmrgecko> and the one which does boot is only 250MB.
[04:51] <grmrgecko> so the full ubuntu install disk won't fit
[04:51] <Arroyo1010> hmm, is there a netinstall ubuntu image?
[04:51] <Arroyo1010> one sec grmrgecko
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, minimal - it's basically just the debian installer, with Ubuntu repositories (you even get debian wallpaper)
[04:52] <grmrgecko> if there is a small installer that'll fit on that 250MB usb drive, that'll be good
[04:52] <Arroyo1010> grmrgecko https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:52] <Arroyo1010> lol i will use it too xD
[04:52] <Arroyo1010> right now
[04:52] <grmrgecko> thanks
[04:53] <grmrgecko> You guys still support PPC
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, if you want "Gnome" do NOT use the gnome package, use gnome-desktop-environment ("gnome" won't work BTW)
[04:53] <grmrgecko> Awesome
[04:53] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 thank you for the tip. I will download it now and try it
[04:53] <grmrgecko> For some reason Google is never help for me, thanks Arroyo1010
[04:53] <Guest34006> ello
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, be careful - minimal is what led me away from Ubuntu ;)
[04:54] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 what distro are you using now ?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> Arroyo1010, debian
[04:54] <smw> hi Guest34006. Can you get a real name? type /nick a-new-name
[04:54] <Guest34006> how r u all today
[04:54] <Magic-Fx> Hey everyone... Can someone please tell me what might cause a laptop (compaq presario 2250) to stall at the following screen while trying to boot from a freshly burnt ubuntu 10.04 netbook iso... http://www.magiceffects.geek.nz/pics/ubuntufail.jpg
[04:54] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9: ah. It's too plain vanilla for me :D
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, if you press a key does something happen?
[04:55] <Magic-Fx> nah nothing... I can't even ctrl+ alt+ del
[04:55] <Guest34006> it wont work
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, try rebooting and as SOON as you see that screen press a key (hopefully you'll get a menu with boot options)
[04:56] <Magic-Fx> ok then; no particular key?
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, space maybe?  i don't think it matters (could be wrong)
[04:57] <bionicandroid> k
[04:57] <DasEi> Guest34771: fine, unless i lost a ssh after reboot
[04:58] <DasEi> bionicandroid: ^
[04:59] <Magic-Fx> thanks ZykoticK9 -- you rock :)
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, i'd recommend you start by trying F6 and setting nomodeset and see if that boots correctly
[05:00] <Magic-Fx> i pressed space as soon as the ISOLINUX text left the screen and it loaded the language selection menu immediately
[05:00] <Magic-Fx> so im away laughing now thanks dude
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> Magic-Fx, cool
[05:00] <bionicandroid> how u all  doin
[05:01] <barf_barf> hi there i'm trying to run a installer thats a "ELF 32-bit LSB executable" , I've given it +x permissions yet still get "Permission denied" even as root , any ideas ?
[05:02] <ZykoticK9> barf_barf, are you using 64bit Ubuntu?
[05:03] <barf_barf> ZykoticK9: No I don't think so how can i check ?
[05:03] <celthunder> barf_barf: if you're using 64 bit run it in a chroot or install the 32 bit libraries it needs
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> barf_barf, if you aren't sure - in a terminal "uname -m"
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, chroot not required
[05:03] <cordiceps> so ppl basically lying here? I just went through a re-install to check Uinity.
[05:04] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: i said or add the 32 bit libraries
[05:04] <barf_barf> no it's i686 , so thats 32 to bit
[05:04] <celthunder> cordiceps: that's what we do best
[05:04] <cordiceps> and get the error 'It seems that you don't have the hardvare to run unity defaulting to...'
[05:05] <celthunder> cordiceps: ok? that message seems pretty clear
[05:05] <franco> quit
[05:05] <celthunder> barf_barf: sh <file> ?
[05:06] <rationalOgre> !attitude | cordiceps
[05:06] <sygeek> Can Ubuntu's unity be replaced with gnome3, if so, then how?
[05:06] <bazhang> sygeek, not at the moment no
[05:06] <celthunder> sygeek: uninstall unity and install gnome3
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> !gnome3 | sygeek
[05:06] <bazhang> celthunder, very bad advice
[05:06] <DasEi> sygeek: on your own risk, can add repo for gnome 3 and switch default session
[05:06] <hololight> 11.04 will not boot on my hp g71. I tried the live cd first, then installed from the alt cd; nothing. Starts boot and then seems to hang. Are there any known issues with this laptop?
[05:06] <cordiceps> I don't have an attitude, I just wanted to check unity.
[05:06] <bazhang> sygeek, it will require a reinstall
[05:07] <hololight> I have ran 8.04 and mint 8 for quite some time on this laptop
[05:07] <cordiceps> by the way I am using qemu here.
[05:07] <DasEi> sygeek: safer is to simply switch back
[05:07] <cordiceps> earlier ppl swore to me that it'd work.
[05:07] <DasEi> !classic
[05:07] <ZykoticK9> cordiceps, qemu/kvm do not have the 3d support for Unity
[05:07] <sygeek> So, indirectly you guys mean, use gnome3 but it will screw things up. So it's better you don't
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> sygeek, if you want gnome3 see fedora
[05:08] <sygeek> Well, just wanna know if Gnome3 > Unity..?
[05:08] <rationalOgre> hololight: Have you tried 10.10?
[05:08] <bazhang> sygeek, not indirectly, its a ppa and unsupported
[05:08] <DasEi> bazhang: reinstall ? I added gnome3 by ppa in vm, worked fine
[05:08] <celthunder> sygeek: install minimum and then add gnome3 and whatever else you want
[05:08] <sygeek> alright :)
[05:08] <bazhang> celthunder, please dont recommend that here
[05:08] <cordiceps> gnome3 is available+?
[05:08] <cordiceps> I'd love to try that if it works on qemu
[05:09] <bazhang> cordiceps, in an unsupported ppa yes. use at your own risk
[05:09] <hololight> rationalOgre: no I have not, oh, using 64 bit, but that hasn't caused a problem in the past
[05:09] <sygeek> Is gnome3 better than Unity?
[05:09] <sygeek> I want an honest answer
[05:09] <celthunder> bazhang: which? gnome3? i don't recommend it...he wanted it.  and i've tried unity/gnome3 i just went back to xmonad
[05:09] <c0decub> can i dual boot ubuntu without the CD? like mounting an iso i've already shrank my drive to 75gb
[05:09] <bazhang> sygeek, its not supported here. not stable at the moment.
[05:09] <celthunder> sygeek: for what?
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> sygeek, that's a !best question
[05:09] <cordiceps> lol, what risk? is a testing VM
[05:09] <rationalOgre> hololight: not seeing any known issues with the g71's and 11.04
[05:09] <bazhang> celthunder, correct. unsupported, so please do not recommend it
[05:10] <rationalOgre> hololight: you sure the media is good?
[05:10] <sygeek> I don't mean with Ubuntu, I mean in general. celthunder : As a desktop environment, is it better than unity or not?
[05:10] <cordiceps> alright so how do I install it?
[05:10] <celthunder> sygeek: look up features and what you use...i wouldn't touch either unless i'm being paid to
[05:10] <bazhang> sygeek, please dont poll here
[05:10] <c0decub> celthunder: what exactly does that mean
[05:11] <bazhang> c0decub, not dual boot, but a wubi install
[05:11] <Arroyo1010> sygeek: here is a usefull article (you have pages 2,3,4 etc) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_managers1&num=1
[05:11] <c0decub> if i use wubi will it clear my main partition of windoze
[05:11] <sygeek> Not polling, just wanted someone's honest opinion. Looks like you guys got offended, sorry if that's the case. I won't go off-topic now
[05:11] <rationalOgre> c0decub: It means he doesn't touch Unity or Gnome unless paid to do so. :D
[05:11] <bazhang> c0decub, no
[05:11] <celthunder> c0decub: that i wouldn't touch unity OR gnome3 again unless i was being paid to.
[05:11] <Arroyo1010> sygeek, check tthe link i gave you
[05:11] <c0decub> ok
[05:11] <c0decub> ok
[05:11] <c0decub> you said either though?
[05:11] <c0decub> i thought normal ubuntu was OK
[05:11] <cordiceps> what about some give me a hand?
[05:12] <bazhang> c0decub, wubi installs inside windows, so it wont be a true dual boot
[05:12] <hololight> rationalOgre: Yes, both cd's tested good
[05:12] <bazhang> cordiceps, with what
[05:12] <joseph_> does eny one
[05:12] <c0decub> I guess I can burn the disk or something/
[05:12] <cordiceps> bazhang: gnome shell
[05:12] <rationalOgre> hololight: Hrm, so does it hang on a black screen with two little icons down at the bottom?
[05:13] <bazhang> cordiceps, there's a ppa, search for it via ppa search on launchpad; as its a ppa, it's unsupported when things go wrong
[05:13] <bionicandroid> a
[05:13] <sam350> I am using standard config files
[05:14] <cordiceps> bazhang: here? https://launchpad.net/ which name should I search?
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> sam350, why are you asking the same question(s) in #debian and #ubuntu?  which are you actually using (seems like Debian)?
[05:15] <Snake007> Hi
[05:15] <Snake007> guys
[05:15] <UcefKH> hi
[05:15] <bazhang> cordiceps, ppa search is hosted on launchpad yes
[05:15] <Snake007> I have a mac ox x
[05:15] <Snake007> from last fall 2010
[05:15] <UcefKH> realy
[05:15] <sygeek> Arroyo1010: Give the link again please, can't seem to find it :/
[05:15] <Snake007> but the gnome 3
[05:15] <Snake007> does not work
[05:15] <bazhang> Snake007, this is ubuntu support try apple support
[05:15] <Snake007> on it properly
[05:15] <FloodBot1> Snake007: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <UcefKH> snake pm me
[05:15] <sam350> Zykotick9: because huge number of people are using apache2 in these distros.  And noone in #httpd/#apache has a word to say
[05:16] <sam350> and I have be searching everywhere
[05:16] <Arroyo1010> sygeek i sent it to you on private
[05:16] <celthunder> sam350: uhm so you are using the default in sites-enabled and it won't autoload index
[05:16] <celthunder> sam350: index.php or index.html or niether?
[05:17] <frustro> so, i gotta try and recover this adaptec raid card, but I need a floppy.  I can make the pc boot from floppy but cant mount /dev/fd0 /tmp/fd0 to create the msdos boot disk let alone caop the files to the fd.  any ideas? Linux ubuntu-bot 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:17] <hololight> rationalOgre: is a blank screen (backlight on) didn't notice icons; is responsive sometimes to a ctrl-alt-delete
[05:17] <celthunder> frustro: does /tmp/fd0 exist? are you doing that as root ?
[05:18] <celthunder> sam350: ?
[05:18] <frustro> sudo su and create the /tmp/fd0 then try to mount /dev/fd0 wich does exist.
[05:18] <celthunder> ok
[05:19] <celthunder> does the floppy work (aka is it bad)
[05:20] <frustro>  I can make the pc boot from floppy
[05:20] <dinesh> canon MF4320d driver and how to instal
[05:20] <bazhang> dinesh, printer?
[05:20] <dinesh> yes
[05:20] <celthunder> dinesh: cups
[05:21] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org dinesh check the database
[05:21] <dinesh> its a multifunctional printer
[05:21] <dinesh> will do that
[05:21] <dinesh> thanks
[05:21] <frustro> celthunder, it's the only board in the house with a fd port. Sad part is, I have a bootable floppy with no usb on it, and that same floppy can get to dos, but ubuntu cant see it so i cant change the disk!
[05:22] <celthunder> :(
[05:22] <celthunder> and lol yeah...i stopped building in floppies and dvd/cd roms in my comps a while ago
[05:23]  * YankDownUnder is upset there aren't any 1.44mb floppies in the house cuz he got a free Dell Powerede that wants an OS
[05:23] <ketterer> hello
[05:23] <celthunder> ketterer: sup
[05:23] <ketterer> how does the NVIDIA GeForce GT 425M run these days
[05:23] <bazhang> dinesh, ask in channel please
[05:23] <celthunder> YankDownUnder: take the hdd out and put an os on it somewhere else and put it back
[05:24] <ketterer> not alot looking at getting a new laptop
[05:24] <celthunder> ketterer: are you having issues with it?
[05:24] <dinesh>  > baxhang-there is no driver for canon
[05:24] <frustro> ha, this can boot from usb and i can make that.....problem solved.
[05:24] <frustro> cya
[05:24] <YankDownUnder> celthunder, hehehehehe...not so simple - I don't have any SCSI stuff laying about (anymore - it's been given away long ago) ;)
[05:25] <ketterer> celthunder: im looking into getting a new laptop, and all the reports and artivles i find on the card are fairly old and not in them they say changes coming
[05:26] <celthunder> ketterer: ah
[05:26] <celthunder> ketterer: unfortunatley i'm always too lazy to research before buying i just pick my card buy it and make it work after :)
[05:26] <celthunder> ketterer: what do they say is "coming" and how old are the articles?
[05:26] <ketterer> i usually do to but this time i want to have a computer that fully works
[05:27] <YankDownUnder> BUY A MACBOOK PRO 17" !!!! (hehehehehehehe)
[05:27] <ketterer> article are mid 2010 and come say that they are soon to release the next drivers for linux for the cards
[05:28] <cordiceps> yoo, why shutdown, restart, hibernate log off don't have icons??
[05:28] <celthunder> ketterer: nvidia just released a new driver set a few days/weeks ago
[05:28] <cordiceps> something wrong with my install?
[05:28] <Arroyo1010> ZykoticK9 i just went with the default unity install. I'm off to bed now. see you later ppls :p
[05:28] <ketterer> from what iv read they work really well anyway, but some of the big things like seem to have been waiting
[05:28] <celthunder> ketterer: such as?
[05:28] <ketterer> like its supposed to be a big one for 3D and full HD
[05:28] <dinesh> how to instal microsoft office in ubuntu 11.04
[05:29] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, WINE or Crossover Office mate.
[05:29] <ketterer> does anykind of 3D work in linux and ubuntu
[05:29] <celthunder> dinesh: ....libreoffice if you MUST have ms office crossover or wine
[05:29] <cordiceps> omg, now my theme is gone!!
[05:29] <cordiceps> I just rebooted
[05:29] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, Otherwise, use OpenOffice or LibreOffice
[05:29] <celthunder> ketterer: yes ? assuming you have mesa
[05:29] <ketterer> mesa?
[05:29] <ketterer> what is mesa
[05:30] <dinesh> ms office crossover?
[05:30] <celthunder> ketterer: that's the 3d libraries for linux
[05:30] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, Crossover Office is a product that allows you to very nicely install MS Office 2007 (that's as far as it gets) onto a linux system.
[05:31] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, http://www.codeweavers.com/
[05:31] <Mr_Giraffe> hi, I recently installed (and then removed) the tomcat6 package, yet it's continuing to show up as a service that starts up on boot. how can I get rid of it?
[05:31] <aclantis_> codec problems
[05:31] <aclantis_> h264
[05:31] <cordiceps> help with my un-themed ubuntu
[05:31] <tomreyn> Mr_Giraffe: try this on a terminal: sudo apt-get purge tomcat6
[05:31] <ketterer> i see
[05:32] <Mr_Giraffe> tomreyn, I did, to no avail
[05:32] <ketterer> sorry i was reading another review
[05:32] <YankDownUnder> aclantis_, Mate, can you be slightly if not more specific?
[05:32] <Mr_Giraffe> also sudo update-rc.d -f tomcat6 remove
[05:32] <ketterer> i remember there was a library of computer that work well in linux
[05:33] <tomreyn> Mr_Giraffe: where does "tomcat6" show up as "a service that starts at boot"?
[05:33] <ketterer> do you know where that is
[05:33] <ketterer> it was started by cononical and its started out fairly well maintained
[05:33] <YankDownUnder> "Playonlinux" ??
[05:33] <Valerie> hello all =]
[05:33] <dinesh> advise for installing canon MF4320d (.ppd files are not available)
[05:33] <Mr_Giraffe> tomreyn, it's a web server that starts on port 8080, tying it up on startup and making it such that I can't kill it and replace it with a different server on that port
[05:34] <ketterer> sorry it was more of a data base of lots of computers and how they did with ubuntu
[05:34] <YankDownUnder> dinesh, http://openprinting.org
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: checked the canon site for drivers?
[05:34] <Mr_Giraffe> tomreyn, I think something I did worked...reinstalled the tomcat6 package (no effect realistically) and then purged it
[05:35] <betelnut> Can anyone help me in recovering a system with a flashdrive
[05:35] <betelnut> ?
[05:35] <YankDownUnder> betelnut, Can ya be a bit more specific?
[05:35] <dinesh> yes i have checked and downloaded but it's not working and only .deb is there
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: yep, the canon site has a linux driver for you
[05:36] <Mr_Giraffe> well, only one way to see if that worked
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: then install the deb, then it will be in the list of drivers available when you kick off the printer install
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: can you give some details
[05:37] <betelnut> sure what kind of details do you need? =\
[05:37] <betelnut> (sorry not to sure)
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: just the situation as well as your goal
[05:37] <betelnut> Okay
[05:38] <dinesh> i tried its not installing
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: you could try extractnig the debs in a folder, see what they hold
[05:40] <dinesh> there is 3 folders of Debian,etc and usr
[05:40] <dinesh> what to do on this
[05:40] <q0_0p> wanted some opinions empathy or pidgin?
[05:40] <dinesh> use empathu
[05:41] <dinesh> empathy
[05:41] <q0_0p> dinesh, why
[05:41] <betelnut> I'm trying to use "rescue a broken system" to install Ubuntu 11.04 onto my hp-mini. I've gotten through the all the steps until i need to use commandline to do some sort of mounting =\
[05:41] <betelnut> to be honest i have no idea how to use command line other than "cd" and "dir"
[05:41] <betelnut> (lol)
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: hunt through, see if you can find something useful
[05:42] <dinesh> qo_opits good i am using except facebook its supports to everything
[05:42] <genewitch>  tcp socket: Address family not supported by protocol <--- what does this error mean?
[05:42] <dinesh> action, not getting anything.. getting tired
[05:42] <dinesh> can you help me
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: usually the debs in stakll right. Did you remove the printer from the printer application then reboot with it attached. Can help
[05:43] <betelnut> Oh and i'm using a USB
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: if you are reinstalling, why do you need to rescue a broken system. Any changes you make will be removed when you install
[05:44] <dinesh> action, trying that
[05:45] <gnewb> genewitch: ipv6?
[05:45] <dinesh> help me to do networking
[05:45] <genewitch> gnewb: maybe
[05:46] <Ademan> anyone know of a good cli rsync backup system?
[05:46] <gnewb> genewitch: That is where I saw or see many errors at, there are Debian Manuals and other information on that.
[05:46] <genewitch> gnewb: no, i don't have it
[05:46] <genewitch> Ademan: crontab + rsync?
[05:46] <betelnut> Well for some reason i cant boot into my system at all. So i figured i'd just start all over again. But when i boot the USB all is well until i select "Install on hard drive" or "Boot from USB" --- all it does ti take me back to the same screen...
[05:47] <gnewb> genewitch: Socket(7)?
[05:48] <kumar> hi
[05:48] <dinesh> hi kumar
[05:48] <dinesh> where are you from
[05:48] <kumar> hi
[05:48] <dinesh> do you know networking
[05:48] <kumar> hi dinesh
[05:48] <kumar> no
[05:48] <kumar> you??
[05:48] <dinesh> no
[05:49] <MnDeadhead> i lost my login screen where i choose which desktop to run.
[05:49] <MnDeadhead> it logs in as root automatically now
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: reinstall gdm, should make things ok
[05:49] <MnDeadhead> oh?
[05:50] <MnDeadhead> i tried to run classic gnome on natty an thats when the trubs started
[05:50] <gnewb> genewitch: Is it a Shishid?
[05:50] <MnDeadhead> but will do ty ActionParsnip
[05:51] <MnDeadhead> whats gdm short for i forgot
[05:51] <MnDeadhead> heh
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> MnDeadhead, Gnome Display Manager
[05:52] <genewitch> gnewb: i don't know what the means
[05:53] <MnDeadhead> o, ty
[05:53] <gnewb> genewitch: Look here for that:> http://www.gnu.org/software/shishi/manual/html_node/Starting-Shishid.html
[05:53] <genewitch> no it's not that
[05:53] <genewitch> it's http-json proxy thing
[05:54] <genewitch> takes json over http and proxies it to an rpc server
[05:54] <MnDeadhead> other thing i tired to do is auto start unity 2-d in classic mode, to no luck..
[05:55] <gnewb> genewitch: Is it the Python script?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: just add unity-2d-launcher and unity-2d-panel to your startup items, simple
[05:55] <gnewb> genewitch: Here, maybe:> http://docs.python.org/library/socket.html
[05:55] <MnDeadhead> oh, ty ActionParsnip. i had the command a lil off
[05:55] <genewitch> gnewb: no it's a c binary
[05:55] <gnewb> ahhh
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: http://pastie.org/2050718  is how I do it
[05:55] <MnDeadhead> thnx
[05:56] <gnewb> genewitch: Sounds like is a BSD bind or port?
[05:57] <bullgard4> I bought a laptop computer having an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.2 GHz width 64 bit and 4 GB RAM. I do not have a 64-bit Ubuntu CD. Is there a disadvantage it I install a 32-bit Ubuntu? I plan to use this computer for VirtualBox simulations also.
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: you wont use all the features in your CPU
[05:58] <grmrgecko> My grandma cannot use windows without getting a virus, so I'm giving her Ubuntu and going to make it easy for her to understand.
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: you will have a maximum ram of 3Gb but you can use PAE to address 12Gb, however, each process will have a maximum ram of 3Gb each
[05:58] <gnewb> genewitch: This should be it, if is C and Binary, http://linux.die.net/man/7/socket
[05:58] <grmrgecko> I had to use Microsoft System Sweeper to remove the virus and all of that junk
[05:58] <grmrgecko> I just hate windows.
[05:59] <grmrgecko> I'm not sure if any of you ubuntu people feel the same about windows.
[05:59] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I can do easily with the limitation of 3 GB RAM per process. Is this the most seroious limitation?
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, 64bit is faster in a couple of areas - media encoding for one
[06:00] <cypha> can every other command prompt be a different color?
[06:00] <cypha> actually
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: there are nice features which you wont be using, if you only intend to web browse and word process with nothing hugely cpu intensive (audio / video encoding) then 32bit is fine
[06:00] <cypha> can the command prompt text be a different color than the written text or the response
[06:01] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: I see.
[06:02] <gnewb> cypha: It can be, yes. Depends on a few things, but the answer is yes.
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: sql servers also thrive on 64bit
[06:02] <MnDeadhead> ActionParsnip,  how exactly do i use that pastebin script. Just input into terminal?
[06:02] <cypha> gnewb, i'm on ubuntu server (no X)
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: its not a script
[06:03] <MnDeadhead> oh
[06:03] <betelnut> ActionParsnip: sorry was away. any ideas?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: read what it says
[06:03] <betelnut> if not thats okay
[06:04] <gnewb> cypha: It can still be done, there are Emacs hacs and many other scripts that can alter the I/O of that.
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: if you are reinstalling why do you need to fix the current install which is going to be removed when you reinstall
[06:04] <MnDeadhead> guess i dont get it, thnx
[06:05] <cypha> gnewb, how about if I'm connected over ssh, is it purely a client setting?
[06:05] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: audio/video encoding speed could be of interest with me. SQL servers rather not.
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: if you look at the 2 symlinks, that is all that startup app does, it makes the .desktop fles in the autostart folder
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: so if you make .desktop files in that folder it will be ran at boot
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: if you instead, symlink the ones in /usr/share/application it will do the same and save you having to make them manually
[06:06] <gnewb> cypha: On your end it can work, on the other box it has to be 'allowed' to.
[06:06] <MnDeadhead> ActionParsnip,  in .config/autostart make the folder
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: yes
[06:06] <MnDeadhead> i see
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> !away > NotProdego
[06:07] <Moon-Mad_Crow> Hi. More or less newbie here... I would like to connect my SCSI scanner (Agfa Arcus 1200, supported by Sane) using the USB2XChange adapter. Any idea on how to handle the first step, i.e. having the USB2XChange driver (if that exists) loaded ?..
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: simple isn't it
[06:07] <MnDeadhead> yes
[06:07] <MnDeadhead> >:)
[06:07] <d4rkh4v0k> Anyone know of a great mail program for ubuntu? I am using evolution now
[06:07] <NotProdego> don't care that much
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> MnDeadhead: works in ANY desktop environment too, so you don't need some "startup app manager" thing.
[06:07] <MnDeadhead> nice lil peace of code
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> NotProdego: it spams the channel and nobody cares, just stop typing and away
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> NotProdego: its less effort for you too
[06:08] <NotProdego> I'm not away, I'm ironically hiding, but if we would prefer I not change nicks while in this channel I can do that
[06:08] <gnewb> Moon-Mad-Crow: Have you looked at the Hardware page?
[06:09] <cypha> gnewb, are you familiar whether putty is  capable of this?
[06:10] <gnewb> cypha: Yes and yes, it should be, it works on BSD-to-Linux-to-Windows and such.
[06:11] <cypha> k, cool, so how do I change the color of the command prompt to red?
[06:11] <betelnut> ActionParsnip: oh okay now i understand. Well i guess i didn't know that was the purpose of the system recovery =\ Well in THAT case i'm trying to install from the USB drive but when i select "install to hard drive" it just takes me back to the same screen
[06:12] <gnewb> cypha: Here , maybe:> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-shell-change-the-color-of-my-shell-prompt-under-linux-or-unix/
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB?
[06:13] <betelnut> ActionParsnip: i don't think so. i just followed the bare instruction from the Ubuntu website
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[06:13] <cypha> thanks gnewb :)
[06:13] <MnDeadhead> kk, thnx have a good one.
[06:13] <betelnut> ActionParsnip: Should i just do that then?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> betelnut: get the ISO file tested, see if it has any errors. If it is bad then you will need to redoenload the file
[06:14] <betelnut> ActionParsnip: Alrighty thanks a bunch =] Hopefully i wont be back
[06:14] <gnewb> cypha: And here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-shell-change-the-color-of-my-shell-prompt-under-linux-or-unix/
[06:15] <gnewb> cypha: You are welcome, that is fun stuff.
[06:16] <gnewb> I am sleepy now, nite nite and happy hacking
[06:16] <tripelb> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page -- How does this compare to what a liveCD can do. this is a system rescue disk
[06:17] <Moon-Mad_Crow> hum maybe I'll rephrase the question... Even though google gives a few results about kernel patches for using usb2xchange to access scsi-mass storage, does anyone know if this device may be used to access a scanner (it does work on window$..)?
[06:18] <cypha> thanks gnewb, gnite
[06:18] <noinflection> hi
[06:19] <noinflection> Looking for a mencoder expert.
[06:19] <noinflection> (not so expert)
[06:20] <MnDeadhead> ActionParsnip,  still logged in as root automatically. I have a terminal message.. ** (gnome-panel:3356): WARNING **: Could not connect to session manager: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SessionManager': no such name
[06:20] <bazhang> noinflection, whats the real question
[06:21] <noinflection> bazhang: want to create avi/mpeg/whatever from a mp3 just using mencoder
[06:21] <bazhang> noinflection, a movie from a music file?
[06:21] <noinflection> bazhang: is it the right chanel?
[06:22] <noinflection> bazhang: yes, black video and music.
[06:22] <noinflection> bazhang: not black music, just normal music.
[06:24] <noinflection> bazhang: sorry i dont speak english fluently, didn't want to refer to black people anytime.
[06:24] <noinflection> bazhang: i am starting to sound stupid.
[06:24] <d4rkh4v0k> What is debf config? it keeps popping up
[06:25] <noinflection> bye, need to go. sorry for bothering.
[06:25] <Snake007> Is there a way to downgrade to ubuntu 10.10
[06:25] <royale1223> How do i make a dhcp ppp link ststic?
[06:25] <Snake007> with commands
[06:25] <royale1223> How do i make a dhcp ppp link static?
[06:25] <bazhang> Snake007, full reinstall
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Snake007: yes by reinstalling
[06:26] <Snake007> So I would have to download it again?
[06:26] <rww> !downgrade
[06:26] <julie> royale1223, are you running a PPP server or client?
[06:26] <bazhang> Snake007, correct
[06:26] <Snake007> ok
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> Snake007: yes, or use an existing install cd
[06:27] <Snake007> Hi Julie
[06:27] <Snake007> it s me snake from yesterday
[06:27] <julie> hi Snake007
[06:27] <Snake007> thans bazhang
[06:27] <Snake007> thx actionparsnig
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> np
[06:27] <Snake007> you re there every night Julie?
[06:27] <royale1223> julie: ppp client wvdial
[06:28] <julie> recently yes
[06:28] <Snake007> ko
[06:28] <Snake007> ok
[06:28] <julie> royale1223, lets try to clarify things....  what do you want to make static?  the IP?
[06:28] <royale1223> julie: yes
[06:29] <julie> royale1223, unfortunately only your service provider can do that
[06:29] <Godel> Hello, I upgraded my Ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 and then to 11.04. It doesn't shutdown properly now. It looks like this bug, but I don't understand the solutions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/418509
[06:29] <royale1223> julie: oops.
[06:29] <ashmew2> royale1223, i hope you are not talking about the internal IP
[06:29] <royale1223> julie: thanks buddy
[06:30] <julie> np
[06:30] <ashmew2> like from the Windows Control Panel in Windows, or the Network Manager from Ubuntu
[06:30] <trisquel> hi
[06:30] <royale1223> ashmew2: You mean internet ip?
[06:30] <julie> no he means local
[06:31] <ashmew2> royale1223, no i meant what do u want it for ? You might be able to get the thing done with a DNS Service like no-ip
[06:31] <trisquel> i want to create a facebook page .. that anyone can access from url by typing the address ...
[06:31] <Godel> I don't understand the solution to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/418509
[06:31] <trisquel> like for eg.. www.facebook.com/microsoft
[06:31] <royale1223> ashmew2: i'm using no-ip
[06:31] <ashmew2> royale1223, ok :P
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> trisquel: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <trisquel> ok
[06:32] <royale1223> ashmew2: but it would be much better if the ip is static.
[06:32] <Godel> Who should I ask questions from? :)
[06:32] <ashmew2> royale1223, but itll cost you on a monthly basis i mean..Expensive
[06:32] <ashmew2> !ask | Godel
[06:33] <Moon-Mad_Crow> Godel: Escher or Bach ;)
[06:33] <Moon-Mad_Crow> and if no ones knows?..
[06:33] <Godel> Moon-Mad_Crow, :-) I loved the book.
[06:34] <barf_barf> hi again I'm trying to run a installer thats a "ELF 32-bit LSB executable" , I've given it +x permissions yet still get "Permission denied" even as root , I'm not on a 64 bit system, any ideas ?
[06:34] <jschuur> Trying to make sure that a user's .profile is run when they ssh in. It seems to be skipped. Or rather, I'm trying to ensure that a specific line gets run for every SSH login. Where would that go? Wouldn't work in /etc/profile
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> barf_barf: is your user the file owner?
[06:35] <Godel> ashmew2, I upgraded my Ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 and then to 11.04. Now it doesn't shutdown properly. Error Message: "checking for running unattended upgrades... signal 15"
[06:35] <jschuur> I should add this is for specific ssh commands, not a full SSH shell login (specifically, the ssh commands run by a capistrano rails deploy)
[06:36] <barf_barf> ActionParsnip: I think so I did a 777 , here ls -al "drwxr-xr-x  2 anette anette"
[06:36] <Random832> barf_barf: that is a directory.
[06:36] <Random832> barf_barf: what are the permissions on the file?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> barf_barf: then you have execute access, what are you trying to install?
[06:36] <barf_barf> sorry , -rwxr-xr-x  1 anette anette 176811439 2011-06-11 15:21 LPCXpresso-Linux-x86-3.8.2.129
[06:36] <domnukalu> Hi. I've installed ubuntu server 11.04, and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Can someone please link me to a beginner-level tutorial in order to have a website set up on my machine? Thanks in advance!
[06:37] <Random832> barf_barf: try running ldd on it
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> barf_barf: http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=printview&t=797&start=0
[06:38] <chuwy> i just got this software today and still cant get it to work with my monitor.iv installed it but it still wont boot up so i can se anything and install the drivers any help please
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> chuwy: which software?
[06:40] <chuwy> actionparsnip: linix starter kit ubuntu 10.10 maverick meerkat
[06:40] <Moon-Mad_Crow> hum scsi does not move crowds at night ^^ let's try again tomorrow morning..
[06:40] <Moon-Mad_Crow> Have a good night all
[06:41] <rafael> good mornig all
[06:41] <jamesklyne> Heyo
[06:42] <Godel> I upgraded my Ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 and then to 11.04. Now it doesn't shutdown properly. Error Message: "checking for running unattended upgrades... signal 15"
[06:42] <rafael> i screwed up my compiz i guess because my cairo dock now have a black square around him how can i figure out using 11.04
[06:43] <Ryan_Macy> I popped the 11.04 server disk into my box, got to the main menu, and when I select anything it states that /install/vmlinuz file is not found
[06:43] <Ryan_Macy> this is the second cd i have made
[06:43] <ryan__> hey guys
[06:44] <dinesh>  Dependency is satisfiable:gs-esp
[06:44] <domnukalu> How can I open a folder in Nautilus being root?
[06:44] <[Spooky]> How is the support for mobile internets on Ubuntu? Anyone have experience?
[06:44] <barf_barf> ActionParsnip: thank you for finding that But i'm running ubuntu or did I miss the point completely
[06:45] <dinesh> hi action  : for my printer i am getting the following message (  Dependency is satisfiable:gs-esp
[06:47] <kapcom> hello, I have a problem with dard disks mounting.
[06:48] <julie> kapcom, what's the error?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> barf_barf: still should test the iso you put on the usb
[06:48] <dinesh> still i am not finding the solution for printer installion
[06:49] <kapcom> I have 3 physical disks with some partitions, and one external. Ubuntu does not auto mounts them.. but if i do it manually by creating a folder on /media and the "sudo mount /dev/sdh1 /media/folder" it works.
[06:50] <goathird> huh.. funny.  use inkjets for comic books.
[06:50] <dinesh> actionparsnip, it is showing  Dependency is satisfiable:gs-esp
[06:50] <dinesh> actionparsnip,what to do
[06:51] <kbar> The Parted Magic OS employs core programs of GParted and Parted to handle partitioning tasks with ease, while featuring other useful software (e.g. Partimage, TestDisk, Truecrypt, Clonezilla, G4L, SuperGrubDisk, ddrescue, etc…) and an excellent set of info to benefit the user. An extensive collection of file system tools are also included, as Parted Magic supports the following: btrfs, ext2, ext3, ext4, fat16, fat32, hfs, hfs+, jfs, linux-swap, ntfs, reiserf
[06:51] <kbar> omg
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> !info gs-esp
[06:51] <barf_barf> ActionParsnip: was that directed at me ?
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: find a ppa or deb for that package
[06:51] <preecher> is there a way i can so one of my mouse buttons will display all desktops or anything else besides having to click on the "workspace switcher" on the sidepanel? using ubuntu 11.04 unity
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> barf_barf: no, I ALWAYS address people
[06:52] <kapcom> by the way, gparted and fdisk shows them correctly.. why do I have to mount them manually?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> preecher: you can set it in ccsm
[06:52] <julie> !fstab
[06:52] <preecher> ActionParsnip thanks
[06:52] <kbar> ok great, so I decided to be an idiot and change from MBR to GPT, with a windows partition on the disk, and now I can't even write to the disk using the standard arch install iso. How do I get back MBR?
[06:53] <julie> kapcom, you need to specify these partitions in your fstab as described above
[06:53] <bazhang> kbar, arch?
[06:53] <kapcom> julie: yes I know I can do that, but why do I have to?
[06:53] <kbar> yeah bazhang
[06:53] <kbar> but no response
[06:53] <bazhang> kbar, #archlinux
[06:53] <kapcom> julie: shouldnt be automatic?
[06:53] <pavan> bluetooth once turned off using hardware switch cannot be turned again till next restart, any idea
[06:54] <kbar> bazhang: #archlinux = no replies, ##linux = trolling me with LMGTFY, come here, I get go to #archlinux?
[06:54] <pavan> using dell xps i7
[06:54] <somethinginteres> domnukalu: gksudo nautilus is the only way I know
[06:54] <barf_barf> ActionParsnip: I thought running the binary would pop up a nice little gui install did not realise it was interacting with the micro proccessor
[06:54] <julie> kapcom, if you really knew about it, you would know it is the answer to your question
[06:54] <[Spooky]> Hm, i guess the support for mobile internets dosent exist then...
[06:54] <bazhang> kbar, this is not the #archlinux support channel
[06:55] <goathird> hey.  he didn't say that.  he said SFW.
[06:55] <kbar> well bazhang obvioulsy I thought it's generic enough to not matter distro by distro. thanks for your help
[06:55] <kapcom> julie: I do know about fstab.. So you think that by plugging a usb flash it shouldnt be auto mounted?
[06:56] <julie> kapcom, it needs to be included in the fstab
[06:56] <julie> kapcom, you just put the flag to automount it
[06:56] <stosh> you guys think its ok to use an old version of ubuntu server for a home file server?
[06:57] <kapcom> julie: no you are wrong.. I have 3 PCs with Ubuntu and I never had to include anything on fstab to mount a usb flash or an external hdd..
[06:57] <julie> stosh, it is rarely recommended security wise to install old versions
[06:57] <bazhang> stosh, what version
[06:58] <royale1223> kapcom: why cant you mount it then?
[06:58] <domnukalu> somethinginteres: thanks, it worked that way :)
[06:58] <julie> kapcom, as you wish, I don't mind if it takes you 2 more hours to do something you could resolve in 5 minutes
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> barf_barf: some do, some don't
[06:59] <stosh> i don't know, i want to turn a really old pc into a file server, so was thinking the newest versions might be too heavy.
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> dinesh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/gs-esp
[06:59] <bazhang> stosh, just use minimal and build from that then
[06:59] <bazhang> !minimal | stosh
[07:00] <kapcom> julie: I dont understand... So you are saying that running sudo mount... is the standard process of mounting an external hdd? Should I teach my mother to do it? Should I stop searching for the automatic solution?
[07:01] <royale1223> kapcom: try to mount it from disk utiltity
[07:02] <kapcom> royale1223: sorry, where is the disk utility?
[07:02] <royale1223> are you using 11.04?
[07:02] <kapcom> yes
[07:02] <royale1223> kapcom: just search for it in the dash
[07:04] <royale1223> kapcom: or "palimpsest" from terminal
[07:09] <julie> !read
[07:09] <royale1223> How do i disable "alt + E" shortcut?
[07:10] <royale1223> It just appeared 11.04. I cant go to window 13 in irssi.
[07:11] <dinesh> actionparsnip, thanks a lot its working.. thanks again
[07:11] <kapcom> royale1223: palimpsest doesnt work.. I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9322309&postcount=3
[07:11] <kapcom> so it is true that the missing auto mount is a problem...
[07:12] <kapcom> Im searching now for a soloution..
[07:12] <royale1223> kapcom: did you try doing it from nautilus itself? just check the side pane for your hadd/usb.
[07:12] <Random832> royale1223: what does it do instead?
[07:12] <kapcom> royale1223: yes there is nothing mounted
[07:12] <kapcom> royale1223: the post i sent confirms that
[07:13] <kapcom> it is a problem eith one of my partitions
[07:13] <royale1223> Random832: opens up the edit option of the terminal.
[07:13] <dinesh> actionsnip, one more support, how to connect laptop and desktop, both i am using ubuntu 11.04
[07:13] <kapcom> I am going to remove one hdd at a time so to find the problematic one
[07:13] <Random832> royale1223: hide the menubar
[07:13] <Random832> or just use esc e as a workaround
[07:14] <neo_> anyone there ?
[07:14] <royale1223> Random832: thanks
[07:14] <trisquel> hi
[07:14] <neo_> hiya?
[07:15] <neo_> trisquel,u can see this msg ?
[07:15] <trisquel> yes
[07:15] <neo_> cool  :)
[07:16] <trisquel> neo ?
[07:16] <royale1223> kapcom: can you paste your "sudo fdisk -l"?
[07:16] <neo_> here
[07:17] <kapcom> royale1223: http://pastebin.com/m1zk7E3j
[07:17] <neo_> 27 2011 设置
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[07:18] <archtangent> what is the command to switch to dvorak?
[07:19] <archtangent> I am at tty, btw
[07:19] <dinesh> how to network laptop and desktop i am using ubuntu 11.04
[07:20] <dinesh> i am new to this please help
[07:20] <kapcom> royale1223: i am doing a reboot now.. see you :)
[07:21] <html_inprogress> how do i share files?
[07:21] <bullgard4> !smb | html_inprogress
[07:22] <dinesh> networking tips
[07:25] <Xcytre> ok... dumb question... i'm just starting to write perl scripts... if I want to use 'sudo crontab -e' to run them, where should I save them?  I don't think my user directory is appropriate....
[07:25] <html_inprogress> bullgard4,   i want to set to as a two way street , can this be done?
[07:27] <ksharpe> .
[07:30] <Xcytre> ok... dumb question... i'm just starting to write perl scripts... if I want to use 'sudo crontab -e' to run them, where should I save them?  I don't think my user directory is appropriate....
[07:32] <benonsoftware> Does anyone want to help a Ubuntu membership claim?
[07:32] <html_inprogress> huh ?? what are u talking about ?
[07:32] <Flannel> benonsoftware: Please don't ask for testimonials here, thanks.
[07:32] <benonsoftware> sorry
[07:32] <html_inprogress> ohh i get it ?
[07:33] <loxs> as far as I remember, there is some way that my music player loads the whole music file in memory, instead of reading small chunks at a time. Where can I read about that?
[07:34] <kkk999> Hi...Can anyone help me in getting via_chrome9.ko kernel module source code
[07:34] <dzup> three floodbotz ...that  mean 3 times safer
[07:35] <dzup> and thatsweird
[07:36] <dzup> if one floodbotz ban a user the the other floodbot will ban that floodbot, then the other, ban the second one, that makes a fllood? then who will ban all those floodbotz?
[07:39] <html_inprogress> how come i can uninstalll anything ?"
[07:44] <Gozar> With an updated 10.04, the mouse cursor and keyboard stopped responding to clicks. I can still move the mouse around though, but not much more than that. It happened as I was watching a video in Totem and clicked on another video to drag it to the player, but I waited a few more secs than usual, then the icon for the cursor just froze and stopped responding to clicks. Anyone know about it? Any fix? (I can still ssh)
[07:44] <Xcytre> html_inprogress - sudo apt-get remove progra
[07:45] <html_inprogress> and i can install anything
[07:45] <hoverbear> Hi there, anyone have a fingerprint reader setup alongside an encrpyted home parition?
[07:45] <Gozar> oh wait, keyboard works.. ctrl+alt+t works, so now I've a local terminal.
[07:45] <Xcytre> remove uninstalls... install installs programs
[07:46] <Guest62101> bcj,hvjk
[07:48] <remoteCTRL1> do you know where to find ip blocklists for vuze?
[07:49] <remoteCTRL1> like there peerguardian lists?
[07:49] <domnukalu> I have a problem with a default install for a LAMP.
[07:49] <doc-saintly> When I run sudo apt-get upgrade, it leaves out some kernel / header updates. when i use the updates manager, it wants to install them, which should i do?
[07:54] <venkat> hi
[07:54] <venkat> clear
[07:54] <venkat> hi
[07:54] <dijikul> hi.
[07:55] <venkat> hmmmm
[07:55] <maalac> hi
[07:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi
[07:55] <maalac> need help here ..
[07:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> how can i help?
[07:56] <maalac> can't boot up on the new kernel 2.6.38-8
[07:56] <venkat> how is unity yar
[07:56] <maalac> i currently on failsafe mode
[07:56] <maalac> 2.6.35-28
[07:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: hmm how about a different kernel through grub?
[07:56] <maalac> it works fine on previous version ..
[07:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> venkat: taking it you don't like unity?
[07:57] <maalac> i'm using the ubuntu classic desktop ..
[07:57] <maalac> i'm not using any effects ..
[07:58] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: weird...I would first try booting into the previous kernel, and re-install the new kernel.  If that doesn't work come back and we might have to something different
[07:58] <maalac> ok ..how can i re-install that ..
[07:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: gksudo synaptic and look for linux-image.  right click the one that isn't working for you and see if there's a option for reinstall.
[07:59] <maalac> alright ..i'll do that ..thanks a lot
[07:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: no problem
[08:00] <maalac> i'm also thinking it might be the problem with our external mirror..
[08:00] <Triffid_Hunter> hi all, trying to find out how to install quake3. I have found openarena, ioquake3 and quake3-data so far, but nothing that'll let me play quake3
[08:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> where's the old school ubuntu-ers here??
[08:00] <maalac> coz when i got home and apt-get upgrade that is when it started freezing up ..
[08:01]  * andrew_46 might be called old school, or perhaps just old....
[08:01] <Triffid_Hunter> apt-get install quake3 says it's referred to by other packages but not available
[08:01] <mbdl> i just installed ubuntu and i get an error on boot that i cant mount swap
[08:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Triffid_Hunter: is guake3 a game?
[08:01] <Triffid_Hunter> Us3r_Unfriendly: yes
[08:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andrew_46: what's your take on unity?
[08:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Triffid_Hunter: i know of guake the terminal emualator
[08:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Triffid_Hunter: guake 3 a windows game?
[08:02] <andrew_46> Us3r_Unfriendly: It will eventually be a good thing :)
[08:02] <Triffid_Hunter> Us3r_Unfriendly: does your font make the difference between q and g non-obvious?
[08:02] <mbdl> when i goto terminal and run sudo swapon -a i get device busy
[08:02] <maalac> when i get back ..i'll install quake3
[08:02] <mbdl> how to i fix it
[08:03] <pksadiq> !find quake3
[08:03] <pksadiq> !info ioquake3
[08:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andrew_46: do you think they'll have gnome 2.32 forever on the internets for the ones that don't like gnome3 or unity?  Say on gnome's website, a link to the source code to compile or something?
[08:03] <Triffid_Hunter> man ioquake3 says it's a game engine, needs a wrapper to run quake3 and to see the quake3 package
[08:03] <IdleOne> !ot | Us3r_Unfriendly
[08:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Triffid_Hunter: my bad...i'm a old fart.  your saying quake
[08:04] <andrew_46> Apologies :(
[08:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> IdleOne: are you saying that due to the gnome 2.32 question?
[08:04] <IdleOne> yes
[08:05] <mbdl> has anyone every seen my issue
[08:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> IdleOne: i still have 2.32 on my ubuntu machine.  so is this irc channel kicking out gnome questions due to the movement to unity?
[08:06] <dinesh> hi
[08:06] <IdleOne> Us3r_Unfriendly: this channel is for Ubuntu support questions not discussing if gnome2.32 is going to be on the internet forever
[08:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> IdleOne: Sure, but it's regarding Ubuntu's future on my machine
[08:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> IdleOne: i'll carry that conversation to that room though
[08:08] <IdleOne> it will be supported for as long as Ubuntu ships it which will be until 11.04 reaches EOL.
[08:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> IdleOne: through the repos?  Or are you talking in general?
[08:09] <bullgard4> I bought a laptop computer having an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.2 GHz width 64 bit and 4 GB RAM. I do not have a 64-bit Ubuntu CD. Is there a disadvantage it I install a 32-bit Ubuntu for VirtualBox simulations?
[08:09] <IdleOne> but like I said this channel is for Ubuntu support not general linux discussion
[08:09] <maalac> hi bullgard4
[08:09] <maalac> there are advantages and disadvantages
[08:09] <bullgard4> maalac: What are the advantages?
[08:10] <maalac> like for example 64bit good in memory handling and the disadvantage is driver problem or supprted devices
[08:10] <Triffid_Hunter> bullgard4: can't access more than about 3.5Gb ram with 32 bit, however since 32 bit operations access less memory it may be faster in many (but not all) situations
[08:10] <Tuhin> the scripts in bin folder is run on everyboot?
[08:10] <maalac> you can get the maximum memory on the 32bit by using the generic-pae kernel ..
[08:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> bullgard4: in my experience, the 32 bit is awesome for desktops / laptops.  64 is a bit harder to configure (in my experience with flash and some other non 64bit apps) but is nice when using more than 4 gigs of ram.  And yes I know theres a way to configure a 32bit ubuntu os to use more than 4 gigs
[08:11] <pksadiq> IdleOne: don't you actually sleep or do you configure a bot while you sleep , I wonder how you respond every time I'm here day and night :O
[08:12] <Tuhin> Mint10 installed tha PAE kernel from internet during install
[08:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: i'm confused on your question.  are you asking all the /bin/* binaries are autostart on boot?
[08:12] <IdleOne> pksadiq: I don't sleep.
[08:12] <Tuhin> yes Us3r_Unfriendly
[08:12] <maalac> need to reboot ..
[08:12] <maalac> brb ..just re-install the kernel hope  it won't freez  up again ..
[08:12] <maalac> :)
[08:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: nope, your /etc/rc* are mostly ran on boot along with gnome's autostart apps
[08:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: also modules as well
[08:13] <pksadiq> IdleOne: impossible, else keepit up , helping others is better than sleeping, ;)
[08:13] <Tuhin> so if i want to auto start any script/execute any program , i have to put the file where?
[08:13] <Tuhin> at  /etc/rc*   ?
[08:14] <Tyrnis> plop all
[08:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: it's actually easier to go to System>Preferences>Startup Applications and configure a script or command to auto start at boot
[08:14] <Tuhin> i found 8  /etc/rc* folders
[08:14] <Tuhin> what r they for
[08:15] <Tuhin> i also use LXDE / openbox / icewm etc
[08:15] <Tuhin> so gnome startup dont always work
[08:15] <Gozar> at the same time?
[08:15] <Tuhin> i have those installed along with Gnome
[08:15] <pksadiq> Tuhin: then you can add tha command to /etc/rc.local file
[08:16] <Tuhin> # By default this script does nothing. exit 0
[08:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: in my experience they do...but xorg does mess around with some of it.  I usually set my scripts to sleep for 10 secs before starting.  That way xorg can boot first and then everything else.  Otherwise your desktop may look goofy
[08:16] <Tuhin> how about putting the scripts/executable in rc* folders
[08:16] <pksadiq> Tuhin: before exit 0 create a line and put your command there
[08:17] <Tuhin> ok i want it to wait 10 seconds too
[08:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sleep 10 && command
[08:17] <Tuhin> ok
[08:17] <Tuhin> how to use the rc* folders for this?
[08:17] <Tuhin> there r 8 folders , what r each for?
[08:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: terminal    =    sudo ls -RAsh /etc/rc*
[08:19] <bullgard4> Triffid_Hunter: I asked specifically for simulation programs. "[09:10]	<Triffid_Hunter>	bullgard4: can't access more than about 3.5Gb ram with 32 bit," <-- This is not true if you install a certain Ubuntu metapackage and your processor has a certain flag capability.
[08:19] <Tuhin> that command gave me list of program that r auto started?
[08:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: yes
[08:20] <Tuhin> so , which folder should i use to put the script/executable?
[08:21] <Tuhin> there r 8 folders and i think they have different purpose/intention/timing
[08:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: again you should be using the startup prefereces for such a case
[08:21] <pksadiq> Tuhin: each folder corresponds to each tty ( you get these ttys by ALT+CTRL +F1 to F7)
[08:22] <maalac> hi again
[08:22] <maalac> it didn't work ..
[08:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> here's something i'm new with...using gvfs for mounting and unmounting
[08:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hmm
[08:23] <iLLf8d> lo all whats the current recommended vnc server of choice for ubuntu?
[08:23] <maalac> look for tigervnc
[08:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: still?  weird...is there something you gain from the new kernel?  I know that's a bad answer.  Otherthan that what machine are you using?  and which kernel isn't working for you?
[08:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: also what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:25] <maalac> im using Ubuntu 11.04 Natty
[08:25] <maalac> kernel 2.6.38.-8
[08:25] <Tuhin> lessonlearned
[08:25] <Tuhin> pressed ctrl+alt+F5 and i was dropped in tty , and i couldn't come back to GUI
[08:26] <pksadiq> Tuhin: F7 would help
[08:26] <Tuhin> F7 from tty will bring me back to gui?
[08:27] <pksadiq> Tuhin: ALT+CTRl +F7
[08:27] <maalac> what could be wrong with this ..
[08:27] <maalac> my laptop is HP Probook 6555b
[08:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: have you installed linux-headers-generic-pae?
[08:29] <maalac> i think..i'm pretty much selected everything to re-install
[08:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: terminal=        sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep -i "linux-headers-generic-pae"
[08:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: terminal=       apt-cache show "linux-headers-generic-pae"
[08:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sorry i think the second would be more effective
[08:30] <gmhome> 33...
[08:31] <maalac> hold on ..
[08:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: oops i meant the first one...sorry
[08:33] <Tuhin> what does tty stand for
[08:33] <maalac> https://pzt.me/2ktd
[08:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: teletypewriter
[08:33] <pksadiq> !ty
[08:33] <pksadiq> !tty
[08:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Tuhin: i'm surprised I remember that lol
[08:34] <Tuhin> so why 6 tty ?
[08:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: how's it coming?
[08:35] <maalac> https://pzt.me/2ktd
[08:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: terminal=        sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep -i "linux-headers-generic-pae"
[08:35] <psicho_> hello people
[08:35] <[deXter]> Hi all, my system keeps freezing regularly, and I can't seem to find any useful info in the logs at /var/log . Are there any other log files or stats I can monitor that might give a clue as to what's happening? Thanks.
[08:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: pastebin that one
[08:36] <maalac> k hold on
[08:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: or first see if anything comes up after running that command
[08:36] <Jayface> maalac
[08:36] <psicho_> last night i have installed ubuntu 11.04 .. today i wanted to use it, however when booting it stops at the line "Stoping userscreen bootsplash [OK]" ...and all i can do is to restart the PC
[08:37] <psicho_> any idea guys ?
[08:37] <maalac> linux-headers-generic-pae			install here is what i got
[08:37] <maalac> hi psicho): that is also my problem ..
[08:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: so it is installed then
[08:38] <psicho_> did you found a solution yet ?
[08:38] <maalac> yes ..i've re-installed it again ..
[08:38] <maalac> i will try to reboot again ..
[08:38] <sattu94> hi, i have two computers of which one is synced to ubuntu one
[08:38] <sattu94> the other one has been added and has downloaded my files from the first one automatically.
[08:38] <psicho_> omg that sucks big time :D
[08:38] <sattu94> however all my changes i do on the second one are not synced to the cloud!, i right clicked the folder to sync but it just doesnt start syncing..
[08:38] <psicho_> does the ubuntu installer have support for repairing or something similiar ?
[08:39] <maalac> psicho_: i believe its a bug on the kernel ..
[08:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: are using a virtual machine with the non-working kernel?
[08:39] <psicho_> Us3r_Unfriendly, im using ubuntu on a real machine :)
[08:39] <maalac> im using it on a real machine ..i just converted my laptop from win7 to ubuntu
[08:39] <psicho_> and i have the very same problem
[08:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: also out of curiousity your using this kernel because of the extended ramm size your using correct?
[08:40] <psicho_> and I really dont feel like making yet another installation of ubuntu :/
[08:41] <maalac> not really for that ..because of the virtual box for faster performance
[08:42] <maalac> psicho: try this article ..
[08:43] <saju_m> usb hard disk partition issue, see this http://dpaste.com/553026/
[08:43] <maalac> http://davidjb.com/blog/2011/05/ubuntu-11-04-boot-freezes-with-2-6-38-8-generic-pae-kernel
[08:43] <psicho_> big thanks
[08:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: funny, i don't have that kernel in my repo...I think i'm going to upgrade to natty eventually
[08:44] <psicho_> but i have the x64 version, does it make a difference ?
[08:44] <maalac> i suggest not to ..until they fix the bug on the kernel .
[08:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: well there's a fix, but which one
[08:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: are you using 64 right?
[08:45] <maalac> im using 32bit ..
[08:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hmm
[08:45] <maalac> on my research lots of people complaining about this kernel ..
[08:46] <maalac> honestly ..i was able to fix it yesterday ..and it works perfectly ..
[08:46] <maalac> when i got home ..i switch to home network and change the package mirror to external and then boom ..
[08:46] <saju_m> usb hard disk partition issue, see this http://dpaste.com/553026/
[08:46] <maalac> rebooted ..its not working anymore ..
[08:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: when using your synaptic, and under "linux-image"...do you see any exclamation marks "!" ?
[08:48] <maalac> no i don't see anything like that ..
[08:49] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: try updating the ubuntu machine and come back if that doesn't work.  Sounds like a few people had fixes with updating their machines
[08:50] <maalac> alright ..i'll try that ..
[08:50] <maalac> brb ..
[08:50] <Tuhin> why there r  6 tty ?
[08:52] <Gozar> Tuhin: 6 is more than 5
[08:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i use irssi on my iphone...and on my ubuntu machine...great cli irc client
[08:52] <Xcytre> where is apache's httpd.conf?
[08:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> oops wrong room sorry
[08:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Xcytre: sudo find /etc/ -iname "*httpd.conf*"
[08:53] <Tuhin> i mean whats the purpose of 6 ttys
[08:54] <Gozar> Tuhin: to have more than 5
[08:54] <Xcytre> thanks!
[08:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Xcytre: that's where i guess the beginning directory will start at
[08:54] <Tuhin> why not have 51 tty
[08:54] <Xcytre> found it!
[08:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Xcytre: nice guess me
[08:54] <Gozar> Tuhin: because that's more than 6
[08:55] <Tuhin> there must be a reason for each tty number, what is it?
[08:55] <lampe> hi
[08:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Xcytre: was it in your /etc/ directory before I start bloating?
[08:56] <lampe> which ubuntu version should I install to run a mysql server version 5.0.51a-3?
[08:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> *gloating"
[08:56] <lampe> are there any dependencies I should be aware of?
[08:56] <Xcytre> yes, it was.. /etc/apache2.... feel free to gloat or bloat.
[08:56] <lampe> the other thing is.. how can I install the specific version with packet system?
[08:56] <Juv1228> lampe, 10.04 LTS
[08:57] <Xcytre> next question.... how do I restart the apache2 service?
[08:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lampe: 10.04 is a great version...especially because it's been out for a long time with a ton of fixes
[08:57] <maalac> it didn't work ..
[08:57] <Juv1228> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:57] <Xcytre> awesome.
[08:57] <royale1223> Xcytre: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:57] <maalac> i have to uninstall this kernel ..
[08:57] <Juv1228> ya, sudo is required
[08:58] <maalac> the 35.28 is pretty stable.
[08:58] <Juv1228> any tips on downgrading from 11.04 to 10.10
[08:58] <Xcytre> thanks, gentlemen
[08:58] <Juv1228> or am i better of nuking the whole thing
[08:58] <rww> !downgrade
[08:58] <royale1223> why does evolution stay offline with nm disabled?
[08:59] <Juv1228> bleh. never should have let the dumb gf on my pc
[08:59] <Juv1228> 'upgrade to 11.04'
[08:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Xcytre: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 --help and *tab tab* have some options to that
[08:59] <Juv1228> "sure why not!"
[08:59] <Juv1228> -.-
[09:00] <royale1223> Juv1228: and what doesnt work?
[09:00] <Triffid_Hunter> ok let's try this again.. anyone know where I can find a package with a quake3 binary? I have ioquake3, it says to install 'quake3' to provide a wrapper. I have quake3-data. I have openarena, but can't find the wrapper script that ioquake3 wants in order to use quake3-data
[09:00] <maalac> anybody can help me..downgrade from kernel 2.6.38-8 to 2.6.35
[09:00] <Juv1228> for one, i cant get vmware to work even with the updated version
[09:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Juv1228: be carefull...unity users in here
[09:00] <Xcytre> ok, thanks Us3r
[09:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: just uninstall that kernel
[09:01] <Juv1228> two, lots of weird UI quirks that werent there before
[09:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: just make sure you have the previous kernel that did work installed
[09:01] <Juv1228> three the upgrade purged python 2.6.5, wiping out all my custom installed modules
[09:01] <Juv1228> the list goes on
[09:01] <royale1223> Juv1228: i think you would better work around these issues.
[09:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: apt-cache search "linux-image"
[09:02] <tsurayya> anyone knows an application like IDM for ubuntu, thanks
[09:02] <Juv1228> ill probably end up doing a fresh 10.04 install
[09:02] <royale1223> Juv1228: you would lose lotta time reconfiguring your system if you reinstall
[09:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> tsurayya: what's IDM?
[09:02] <theadmin> tsurayya: gwet, jdownloader
[09:02] <royale1223> Us3r_Unfriendly: internet download manager
[09:03] <tsurayya> internet download manager
[09:03] <Juv1228> true, but id rather lose time now than waste time over the next few months working around bugs
[09:03] <Juv1228> hell, might even ditch ubuntu for plain debian
[09:03] <oCean> Juv1228: if you just came to rant, please find an other channel
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Juv1228: royale1223:  that's why i haven't upgraded from 10.10 ...if by choice I'd go back to 10.04 or 8.10
[09:03] <royale1223> Juv1228: language
[09:03] <maalac> hold on.
[09:03] <tsurayya> ok l'll try thanks
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Juv1228: try the new mint
[09:04] <theadmin> Juv1228: Ditch it for Arch ;) Just saying [/offtopic]
[09:04] <Juv1228> pass on mint. but arch is a real possibility theadmin
[09:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> theadmin: i love arch but Ubuntu is the reason i booted out windows.  off subject
[09:04] <neo_> i m trying playOnlinux , does war3 work on this ?
[09:05] <Juv1228> also, oCean in no way am i ranting, if i was ranting, you would know
[09:05] <royale1223> Us3r_Unfriendly: you are not alone. :)
[09:05] <theadmin> Us3r_Unfriendly: Hey, same here, almost everyone these days starts on Ubuntu
[09:05] <thomy110> hi!
[09:05] <oCean> Juv1228: this channel is for support topics only. Take discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[09:05] <Juv1228> very true, started on ubuntu
[09:05] <maalac> https://pzt.me/5vpe
[09:06] <maalac> the is the result
[09:06] <theadmin> Hello, thomy110
[09:06] <neo_> ubuntu already started  :)
[09:06] <maalac> hi user_unfriendly ..
[09:07] <maalac> https://pzt.me/5vpe
[09:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> theadmin: well main reasons i stay on ubuntu is the app developers mostly gear towards ubuntu for it's programs.  granted there is compiling and alien and dpkg...but Ubuntu always will be my main distro.  I do love arch and opensuse too but Ubuntu is very mostly used and is easy to work with.
[09:07] <theadmin> Us3r_Unfriendly: Your choice, hey
[09:07] <Triffid_Hunter> seems they removed quake3 here --> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-games-commits/2010-September/014571.html
[09:07] <Triffid_Hunter> now why on earth would they do that?
[09:07] <royale1223> i hate the "alt + e" shortcut
[09:08] <theadmin> royale1223: You most likely can disable that somewhere in preferences
[09:08] <royale1223> theadmin: i cant find anything
[09:08] <AJ4X> nickserv identify AJ4X Guitarguy94
[09:08] <theadmin> Wow.
[09:09] <puneet> hello...can anyone give me a good link where i could read about how to build libraries... using cmake and all
[09:09] <theadmin> AJ4X: Change your password quickly
[09:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maalac: is your ubuntu os is in a virtual machine again?  or is ubuntu your host?
[09:09] <Gozar> what happens when you kill gnome-panel? does it restart and then show the applications i currently have running, or do they disappear from the taskbar?
[09:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: it restarts
[09:09] <royale1223> theadmin: there is no documentation
[09:09] <theadmin> Gozar: It restarts and shows everything like before the kill
[09:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: and it's:         sudo killall gnome-panel
[09:09] <RKyle> Hi, I need to find a better server for updates in my ubuntu server system and I was looking up how to find the best one and for Debian suggested a package called 'netselect' but it isn't in the Ubuntu repos and I was wondering if there was a Ubuntu counter-part.
[09:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: it's like restarting gnome-panel
[09:10] <theadmin> Us3r_Unfriendly: You don't need sudo there
[09:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> theadmin: sorry, i'm used to using sudo for alot of things.  yeah sudo isn't needed
[09:10] <Gozar> so all the applications will still appear? surely?
[09:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> theadmin: i even use sudo with apt-cache search when not needed...don't know why i still do to this day??
[09:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> theadmin: bad habit
[09:11] <vish> Gozar: most should, but some apps using the old notification area might not
[09:11] <royale1223> !panelreset
[09:11] <theadmin> Us3r_Unfriendly: Sure is
[09:12] <AJ4X> hello
[09:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AJ4X: hallop
[09:12] <AJ4X> =/
[09:12] <AJ4X> hey i need some help
[09:12] <AJ4X> i want a 5th partition
[09:12] <AJ4X> is that possible?
[09:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AJ4X: gparted
[09:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> one word
[09:12] <AJ4X> can it format to ntfs?
[09:12] <brocade> no word
[09:13] <royale1223> AJ4X: you have four primary partions i guess. am i right?
[09:13] <Gozar> vish: i think i have experience of gnome-screenshot not reappearing.. is that one of the apps?
[09:13] <AJ4X> i think so
[09:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AJ4X: i don't see why not.  gparted is great for resizing paritions and creating new ones
[09:13] <neo_> install kubuntu-desktop     ing.... ing...
[09:13] <AJ4X> i know i have four
[09:13] <AJ4X> ok
[09:13] <AJ4X> il try it
[09:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AJ4X: yes ntfs...but first install "ntfsprogs"
[09:14] <AJ4X> umm
[09:14] <AJ4X> k
[09:14] <vish> Gozar: gnome-screenshot does not use the notification area. you might be thinking of some other app, but probable, why the doubt though? what are you specifically asking this for?
[09:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AJ4X: otherwise gparted will have the ntfs option greyed out
[09:14] <AJ4X> ok
[09:14] <AJ4X> thanks
[09:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AJ4X: have fun tweaking your partitions :P
[09:15] <royale1223> AJ4X: 1) backup a partion with partimage. 2) Delete that partion 3) make 2 logical partions via gparted 4) restore the backup
[09:15] <cordiceps> I think the ubuntu sans-unity is fugly, how can install fluxbox and make it default??
[09:15] <Gozar> vish: the mouse pointer (and nautilus?) decided to call it quits and not respond to clicks. so now i have to somehow save the unsaved stuff and reboot.. not fun with 3 monitors..
[09:15] <AJ4X> i just wanna make the unallocated space allocated
[09:15] <AJ4X> to ntfs
[09:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cordiceps: sudo apt-get install fluxbox           and after that log out and on the bottom it will ask you which desktop environment you want to use
[09:16] <cordiceps> pretty simple, ok
[09:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: i love nautilus...especially with sftp :P
[09:17] <AJ4X> it is not possible to create more than four primary partitions
[09:17] <AJ4X> =/
[09:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> AJ4X: then i learned a new lession i didn't know before
[09:17] <cordiceps> I prefer --> sshfs-fuse
[09:17] <oCean> AJ4X: nope, the 4th should be an extended partition, in which you can create many other partitions
[09:18] <AJ4X> can i change one of my partitions to extended?
[09:18] <vish> Gozar: most apps prompt to save when closing unsaved programs, use Alt+F4 to close and you'd get the prompts to save, should be easier..  (this applies to most GNOME apps)
[09:18] <AJ4X> or do i have to format it over?
[09:18] <Gozar> Us3r_Unfriendly: how about dolphin? ;)
[09:18] <Gozar> vish: yes, that's exactly what i'm trying to do now
[09:18] <oCean> AJ4X: yes, you have to re-create the 4th as extended
[09:18] <AJ4X> oh
[09:18] <AJ4X> ok
[09:19] <psicho_> it was a xorg.conf issue :)
[09:19] <cordiceps> to install Gnemo3 Shell where do I add this ?? -- >ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[09:19] <psicho_> anyway could somebody please point me to a tutorial on setting up dual screen on ubuntu 11.04 ..thanks
[09:19] <Gozar> vish: and alt+tab does not want to work either.. this is fun
[09:19] <bazhang> !xrandr > psicho_
[09:20] <cordiceps> help plz
[09:20] <psicho_> thanks m8
[09:20] <cordiceps> where to add this --> ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[09:20] <slavanap> Hello. Where I can find sources for my kernel ? I found out that it has been modified by ubuntu team. How can I make identical kernel, that my system use?
[09:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: I tried dolphin when i first heard of linux...it was when I first tried "sabayon linux"...I hated that and found Ubuntu...and been here since 9.10
[09:20] <vish> !gnome3 | cordiceps
[09:21] <AJ4X> is a partition for linux swap necessary? i have 1gb ddr3  ram
[09:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cordiceps: gnome 3 will be currently supported next release though i believe or the next one after that
[09:21] <cordiceps> vish: this is a ubuntu vm, wouldn't matter if it got ...
[09:21] <theadmin> AJ4X: If you wish to be able to hibernate, yes
[09:21] <AJ4X> is it only for hibernating?
[09:21] <bazhang> cordiceps, same way you add any other ppa; sudo add-apt-repository
[09:21] <cordiceps> the next one AFTER the next???
[09:21] <Gozar> Us3r_Unfriendly: might've been in the early days of that particular de ;) but i love that de more than this "standard" one :)
[09:21] <vish> cordiceps: click that ^link and it will have instructions where to add
[09:22] <bazhang> cordiceps, there are instructions on the page
[09:22] <bazhang> Us3r_Unfriendly, in 11.10
[09:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: they'll eventually all be the same with different names
[09:22] <harish> hi
[09:22] <vish> cordiceps: if you want to test shell it is better you download a distro which ships Shell by default.. or wait for Oneiric atleast;)
[09:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> bazhang: nice
[09:23] <saju_m> how format drive in fat32
[09:23] <bazhang> vish, he's had the warnings, its his issue now
[09:23] <vish> bazhang: :)
[09:23] <saju_m> i can see only mkfs.ntfs
[09:23] <llutz> saju_m: sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdXY
[09:23] <Gozar> vish, or anyone: how do i move the focus from one monitor to the other? all apps on one monitor are now closed, but now i cant get to the others..
[09:23] <bazhang> saju_m, vfat
[09:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: so easy when sftp'ing into my iphone with nautilus
[09:24] <cordiceps> that BAD shape is in it?
[09:24] <cordiceps> which distro ships gnome3 by default?
[09:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cordiceps: fedora i believe
[09:24] <cordiceps> I thought ubuntu was the poster child of gnome shell.
[09:24] <bazhang> cordiceps, very. best to wait. check distrowatch.com or gnome homepage
[09:24] <slavanap> I should modify one module for my system. Is that real without recompiling whole kernel ???
[09:24] <PacheQ> hello, some way to vertical maximize a windows when dropping to screen top in unity?
[09:24] <Gozar> Us3r_Unfriendly: eww iphone ;)
[09:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cordiceps: but "Fedora" is a bit harder to configure than Ubuntu, just throwing that out there
[09:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: You know what is funny...after jail breaking my iphone, it now uses "dpkg" to install .debs naturally (off subject)
[09:26] <cordiceps> Us3r_Unfriendly: harder in which sense?
[09:26] <bazhang> cordiceps, lets take this non ubuntu support to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:26] <cordiceps> cuz I use Gentoo.
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cordiceps: like say for example Ubuntu configures sudo for your user.  Fedora doesn't and quick tip:  learn "vi"
[09:27] <cordiceps> how is it offtopic wanting to know how ubuntu configures stuff??
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cordiceps: no nano in Fedora
[09:27] <cordiceps> ROFL!!
[09:27] <bazhang> cordiceps, you are asking about fedora and gnome-shell. thats offtopic here. please take it there.
[09:27] <cordiceps> bazhang: wrong
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cordiceps: take that back, you can install it but uninstall vi or vim
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> off subject
[09:28] <cordiceps> I asked him why is fedore harde to configure than ubuntu. I am installing gnome3 in ubuntu.
[09:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> can i msg you cordiceps ?
[09:28] <cordiceps> go ahead
[09:29] <cordiceps> now I am having second thoughts
[09:29] <Gozar> Us3r_Unfriendly: well, su/sudo are nearly equally "difficult", no?
[09:30] <cordiceps> "WARNING: Attention! If you follow this toturial, you'll break your Unity session. There is no downgrading method for now. You've been warned!
[09:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: nope...  su -c "top -c"  works nicely but all ubuntu-ers are accustomed to sudo.
[09:30] <cordiceps> well, unitiy is already broken on a qemu vm.
[09:30] <Gozar> vish: any advice on how to move focus from one monitor to the other through cli?
[09:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: ...for a top in super user mode
[09:31] <psyop> what the hell. yesterday, i watched lord of the rings 720p .mkv video on this computer, with ubuntu. worked fine. now again when i try to open it, VLC doesnt do anything and Movie Player says "Could not determine type of stream"
[09:31] <psyop> what o__o
[09:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: su -c "visudo"           then with vi you can change your /etc/sudoers file to allow you to use sudo...or edit yourself in the /etc/group file
[09:31] <Gozar> Us3r_Unfriendly: yeah, but you can't say that that fedora is harder because you have to know a different standard, ubuntu is equally "hard" for a regular fedora user
[09:31] <psyop> did the same thing before
[09:31] <cordiceps> what part of unitiy is GPU dependent? I mean is just a windows manager.
[09:31] <psyop> and i havent even changed anything
[09:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: good point
[09:32] <\sda> hi all, question! I would like have a faster standby on my pc, Now I need 15sec to stop and 15sec to start! Almost the time I need to boot! What can I do?
[09:32] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: i've used both...I should really say it takes less time for me to setup ubuntu to where i like it.  Fedora isn't Ubuntu...
[09:33] <cordiceps> I donn't understand, a guide sasy to issu this command --> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:33] <cordiceps> I am already on 11.04
[09:34] <Gozar> Us3r_Unfriendly: on the cli side fedora is easier, ubuntu has the different apt-* instead of basically one yum
[09:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> well good talk with you guys...my girlfriend's kicking me off so talk to you later
[09:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: true
[09:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> bye
[09:34] <Gozar> bai
[09:34] <cordiceps> Gozar: u know what you nick means in spanish??
[09:34] <cordiceps> lol
[09:35] <Gozar> cordiceps: nope
[09:35] <cordiceps> google it
[09:35] <Gozar> haha, why not write it?
[09:36] <krang> cordiceps- do you like 11.04 better than 10.04? i felt like i was forced off 9.10 because it stopped being supported
[09:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gozar: enjoy
[09:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> now bye
[09:36] <jnlsnl_> I played with apache and vhosting yesterday, now I can't access the folder "example" in the browser (get a 404), but if i rename the folder to example1 it works
[09:36] <cordiceps> 'to enjoy' to be precise.
[09:36] <Gozar> haha, nice
[09:37] <Gozar> (i was hoping it would be something naughty though)
[09:37] <cordiceps> krang: what do you mean? I only started with 11.04, and it says I have a dist-upgrade??
[09:37] <cordiceps> Gozar: actually...
[09:38] <cordiceps> it can have 'certain' connotation to it.
[09:38] <Gozar> a 'certain' connotation
[09:38] <cordiceps> what's the name of ubuntu default theme? keeps changing randomly upon reboot.
[09:38] <Dave1234> hi
[09:39] <krang> i tend to be more comfortable with the older versions rather than jump onto the latest release. ive had problems in the past
[09:39] <Dave1234> i want to install my wacom intus3
[09:39] <Dave1234> what i need to do
[09:39] <Dave1234> i am new on the Ubuntu
[09:39] <cordiceps> krang: I don't know, not use to distros releases, I use Gentoo which is perpetually up to date.
[09:40] <Dave1234> what is Gentoo
[09:40] <cordiceps> I got curious about unitiy since Gentoo don't has it.
[09:40] <krang> ive never tried gentoo but i keep hearing about it.. i tried slackware *once* haha
[09:40] <oCean> Dave1234: it's another linux distribution, but this channel is dedicated to ubuntu
[09:41] <cordiceps> Dave1234: it's a meta-distro --> http://www.gentoo.org/
[09:41] <oCean> cordiceps: let's just stay on the topic of ubuntu support here, ok?
[09:41] <Dave1234> ok how inatall wacom for this
[09:42] <cordiceps> plug it, go to prefernecs, configure, good to go.
[09:42] <Dave1234> wow
[09:42] <Dave1234> are you sure?
[09:43] <Dave1234> then what is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom/LatestDriver
[09:43] <cordiceps> Dave1234: or this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[09:44] <Dave1234> ok how i install the driver
[09:44] <Gozar> i have 3 monitors, how do i move focus to a certain monitor using a terminal and no mouse? in other words, how does X do the switching and how do i do it manually?
[09:44] <cordiceps> Dave1234: most likely like this, pull sources, cd into the directory make && make install. modprobe -v wacom_module. Done.
[09:45] <Dave1234> thanks
[09:45] <nocer> hi there
[09:45] <nocer> i killed the dbus-daemon process, then my gui went crazy so i rebooted via tty1. but now my maximum screen resolution went down from 1400x900 to 1024x768. how can i get my old maximum again? :(
[09:45] <Dave1234> but whats this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:doctormo/wacom-plus
[09:46] <cousin_mario> hello
[09:46] <cordiceps> Dave1234: if I were you i'd follow that guide step by step.
[09:46] <dimkin> hello! i installed ubuntu server from usb-flash, but grub after istall was written somehow on flash - not hdd. how to transfer it to hdd?
[09:46] <cordiceps> Dave1234: that's to add the SOURCE of the code for your wacom driver.
[09:46] <Dave1234> so i use the commands and i will be fine?
[09:46] <cordiceps> Dave1234: is like an address because is not official.
[09:46] <cousin_mario> how do I change the default boot entry on grub2? I tried setting GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/defaul/grub and giving a sudo update-grub, but it didn't work.
[09:47] <cordiceps> Dave1234: yes I just did that for Gnome3 and installing Gnome3 as we spoke.
[09:47] <zhangyahui> b
[09:47] <Dave1234> well thanks a lot this is the fastest IRC i ever saw
[09:48] <cordiceps> Dave1234: actually you DON'T have to do the whole guide, you can stop at "Restart the computer for changes to take effect. "
[09:48] <cordiceps> Dave1234: which wacom you got?
[09:48] <vish> Gozar: no clue how to do it via cli..
[09:48] <Dave1234> i love Ubuntu after i installed it :)
[09:49] <cordiceps> Dave1234: which wacom tablet do you have?
[09:49] <Dave1234> intus3
[09:49] <Gozar> vish: maybe i can start a terminal through alt+f2 and project it to the monitor i want and thus get it autofocused there? but.. how would that be done
[09:50] <rly> There is a list of programs to start automatically in Gnome. Is there also a similar list which gets executed before a session is stopped?
[09:50] <cordiceps> fffffffuuuuu!!11 "Oh no! Something has gone wrong."
[09:50] <cordiceps> great no Gnome3 shell either.
[09:50] <\sda> hi all, question! I would like have a faster standby on my pc, Now I need 15sec to stop and 15sec to start! Almost the time I need to boot! What can I do?
[09:51] <vish> Gozar: what are you actually trying to do?
[09:51] <jaco> google
[09:51] <oCean> jaco: ?
[09:51] <vish> Gozar: if you have nothing to save just restart the session
[09:51] <rly> \sda: what kind of standby?
[09:52] <Gozar> vish: well, 3 monitors, i closed all the apps in one monitor and now want to get to the other 2. but ctrl+alt+t and alt+f2 only opens up in the first.. i can't get to the others. (with the mouse being dead and all)
[09:52] <pavan> hello guys
[09:52] <Guest14964> m
[09:52] <Guest14964> hey i need some help
[09:52] <Guest14964> can some one help me please
[09:52]  * cordiceps googles gnome3 qemu
[09:52] <Gozar> vish: yeah, but i do have things to saev..
[09:52] <pavan> my bluetooth device is not working properly, how to install its driver
[09:52] <oCean> !ask | Guest14964
[09:53] <pavan> using 64bit 11.04
[09:53] <vish> Gozar: if you dont have to save, then just restart, it aint worth the hassle :)
[09:53] <\sda> rly, like close my monitor and save energy, but my pc still on and recover fast!
[09:53] <Guest14964> i need help with source code
[09:53] <\sda> rly, Like mac's pc
[09:53] <DingGGu> how to find [1] like "ls -al | grep [1]"
[09:54] <rly> \sda: you can also just press the powerbutton on your monitor.
[09:54] <DingGGu> \[1\] doesn't work
[09:54] <rly> \sda: I have no idea what exactly macs do.
[09:54] <theadmin> DingGGu: Just take it in single quotes
[09:54] <DingGGu> ?
[09:54] <DingGGu> how to ?
[09:54] <theadmin> DingGGu: '[1]'
[09:54] <pavan> my bluetooth device is not working properly, how to install its driver
[09:54] <rly> \sda: anyway, there is hibernation and pause.
[09:54] <grobda24> hello
[09:54] <DingGGu> ah.. tanks
[09:54] <DingGGu> doesn't work
[09:54] <grobda24> Anyone know about installing 11.04 on an EeePC with 3.5 gig HD. Installer asks for 4.4 gig then won't go any further.
[09:55] <theadmin> DingGGu: Strange
[09:55] <rly> \sda: hibernation requires zero power when off and is slower to start, but faster than full boot.
[09:55] <\sda> rly, on my ubuntu i have hibernate and suspend, so I think i'm talking about pause
[09:55] <rly> \sda: pause requires some power, but is very fast.
[09:55] <DingGGu> ..
[09:55] <rly> \sda: on my two year old laptop is is about 5 seconds or so.
[09:55] <rly> it is*
[09:56] <\sda> rly, on my new pc, 15 to go down, 15to go up
[09:56] <rly> \sda: shutting down takes 3 seconds on my system currently.
[09:56] <oCean> DingGGu: ls -al |grep '\[1\]' should work
[09:56] <rly> \sda: but that's not pause.
[09:56] <vish> \sda: we dont have that hybrid session save in Ubuntu
[09:56] <rly> \sda: do you have 8GB?
[09:56] <DingGGu> oCean oh.. lol thx xD
[09:56] <theadmin> oCean: Why the escaping in quotes? I think quotes literalize it all
[09:56] <rly> \sda: of RAM.
[09:56] <\sda> rly, yep
[09:57] <rly> \sda: I don't think that should matter for pause/suspend.
[09:57] <\sda> rly, vish, Amdx6 8gb
[09:57] <rly> \sda: only for hibernation.
[09:57] <vish> \sda: only hibernate or suspend.. but that OSX feature is not available
[09:57] <oCean> theadmin: yes, it is a literal grep for a string, the string is literally '[1]'
[09:57] <rly> vish: what does the OSX feature exactly do?
[09:58] <theadmin> oCean: Yeah, so...? Why the backslashes then?
[09:58] <Gozar> vish: it's something like gnome-terminal --display:* but it doesn't want to.. hm
[09:58] <vish> rly: it is a mix of suspend and hibernate, it initially goes to suspend and then to hibernate.. not sure exactly how but it uses both RAM and harddrive
[09:59] <oCean> theadmin: otherwise it will interpret the [1] as 1, and [123] as anything in 1, 2 or 3
[09:59] <theadmin> oCean: Ah, regexes, I see
[09:59] <oCean> indeed
[09:59] <\sda> vish, rly, like http://suspend.sourceforge.net/
[09:59] <\sda> µswsusp
[10:00] <\sda> buddies sorry i must go! thanks anyway maybe catch you later!
[10:00] <bullgard4> How can I install a 64-bit Ubuntu if I have got Internet access but only a 32-bit Ubuntu 10.10 CD?
[10:01] <rly> I don't see why doing it in user space would make anything faster.
[10:01] <theadmin> bullgard4: Download a 64-bit Ubuntu CD.
[10:01] <vish> lol!!
[10:01] <theadmin> bullgard4: Really, no other way 'round
[10:01] <llutz> bullgard4: http://mylinux.blog.de/2010/03/14/debootstrapping-amd64-ubuntu-from-32bit-8174809/
[10:02] <theadmin> Okay llutz you win again :/
[10:02]  * theadmin is stupid
[10:02] <rly> Can I see somewhere how a default sudoers file looks like in Ubuntu?
[10:02] <theadmin> rly: Basically, it's %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:02] <theadmin> rly: With a bunch of comments.
[10:02] <rly> theadmin: thanks
[10:03] <_serial_> sudo nano /etc/sudoers rly
[10:03] <theadmin> _serial_: No. EDITOR=nano sudo visudo
[10:03] <henry__> whos this
[10:03] <_serial_> ?
[10:03] <oCean> henry__: this is ubuntu technical support
[10:04] <henry__> what
[10:04] <oCean> _serial_: sudoers should always be edited using visudo
[10:04] <tommis> oCean, you can ask questions here
[10:04] <_serial_> how come?
[10:04] <rly> _serial_: that was not an answer to my question.
[10:04] <oCean> tommis: sure
[10:04] <dimkin> hello! i installed ubuntu server from usb-flash, but grub after istall was written somehow on flash - not hdd. how to transfer it to hdd?
[10:04] <rly> _serial_: theadmin already answered it correctl.y
[10:04] <bullgard4> llutz: Thank you very much for your help.
[10:04] <tommis> and that is bretty much it
[10:04] <llutz> rly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers#The Default Ubuntu Sudoers File
[10:04] <tommis> calling this technical support...
[10:05] <bazhang> tommis, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:05] <henry__> where you from
[10:05] <bazhang> !ot | henry__
[10:05] <oCean> _serial_: visudo does an actual syntax check on close (before write)
[10:05] <_serial_> ah thanks oCean, google explains all :)
[10:07] <theadmin> dimkin: No way, you'll have to reinstall GRUB: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[10:07] <Valentinian> How can I make ubuntu server 11.04 start without monitor, keyboard, mouse, login, etc... ? Thanks!
[10:07] <addlinux> Any advice on getting a Synaptic Multi  Touch Pad working in 11.04? I tried the Synaptic dkms package that was supposed to have fixed the problem in 10.04 & 10.10, but it hasn't helped. The "right" mouse button still doesn't work.
[10:07] <dimkin> ok, i'll try
[10:07] <dimkin> thanx
[10:10] <theadmin> Well, I'm outta here, bye.
[10:11] <addlinux> Wow! Never mind. I just realized that the 'right' mouse click is accomplished by tapping with two fingers at once! That's new to me.
[10:11] <grobda24> how do you run the ubuntu installer from install disk command line ?
[10:12] <iflema> !ssh | Valentinian
[10:12] <rly> addlinux: that is one way.
[10:12] <rly> addlinux: your button should also work.
[10:12] <addlinux> rly - unfortunately my right mouse button doesn't work .
[10:12] <rly> addlinux: you can run xev to check that.
[10:12] <addlinux> rly - it works in windows.
[10:13] <addlinux> rly - but not in any linux distro I've tested recently.
[10:13] <rly> addlinux: run xev.
[10:14] <winsome> hi guys
[10:14] <winsome> how long is yours? http://bit.ly/mQQpxT
[10:14] <addlinux> rly - In fact, the right mouse button is now doing a left mouse click.
[10:14] <rly> addlinux: again, run xev.
[10:14] <addlinux> rly - I'm looking at the man page now, for xev
[10:15] <rly> addlinux: just _run_ it.
[10:15] <rly> addlinux: no need to read any manual.
[10:15] <rly> addlinux: it's not going to kill your system.
[10:15] <rly> Or if it does, it would be the first time that happens :)
[10:16] <addlinux> rly - I ran it...what should I do with it?
[10:20] <Wisnia> hi
[10:20] <Wisnia> i need system configuration tool like webmin
[10:21] <Wisnia> anyone knows usefull tool?
[10:21] <YankDownUnder> Wisnia, Um...so what's wrong with Webmin then? (not supported in this channel)
[10:21] <Valentinian> Wisnia: Zentyal could do the work :)
[10:21] <YankDownUnder> Wisnia, I use Webmin on all my Ubu servers...works like a champ
[10:21] <IdleOne> !webmin
[10:22] <Valentinian> !webmin
[10:22] <YankDownUnder> ...like I said... ;)
[10:22] <Wisnia> thx
[10:22] <Wisnia> bye
[10:22] <rly> addlinux: in the window created left click and obverse terminal output compare with right click output.
[10:23] <BigMac1> i was wondering if it's possible to rearrange the "taskbar" buttons in 11.04?
[10:23] <rly> observe*
[10:24] <rly> addlinux: almost surely some difference must be seen. That can be used to remap your keys, if needed.
[10:24] <addlinux> rly - let me check
[10:26] <d_atharva> Are there any viruses in ubuntu ?
[10:27] <addlinux> rly - the output is exactly the same, except for the time. Word for word.
[10:28] <GSF1200S> is it possible to have ubuntu run a post command after enabling bluetooth? I have a bug that I need to run a command after enabling bluetooth to fix
[10:28] <bazhang> !virus > d_atharva
[10:28] <rly> addlinux: then I would say the driver is broken.
[10:29] <rly> addlinux: report a bug to whoever wrote it.
[10:29] <rly> addlinux: or to Launchpad.
[10:29] <addlinux> rly - OK
[10:29] <rly> addlinux: which driver are you using?
[10:29] <rly> addlinux: for Windows some amateuristic company usually writes the drivers.
[10:30] <rly> addlinux: they do not follow any kind of standard, etc., and it only barely works.
[10:30] <Dave1234> hey thanks for helping me install wacom on Ubuntu
[10:30] <szal> !samba
[10:31] <rly> addlinux: so, the more 'special' drivers are needed on Windows, the more issues you generally have. That said, it works perfectly on my systems.
[10:31] <Aison> what's the difference between /usr/include/linux and /usr/src/linux-headers-xxxx/include ?!?  some of the files have got the same name but the file from linux-headers are newer.
[10:31] <rly> Aison: usually that is symbolic link.
[10:31] <rly> that is a*
[10:31] <Dave1234> i did it as the web page said and is working good
[10:32] <addlinux> rly - I'm using the Synaptic-dkms_1.0.0_all - You can find it on launchpad here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/308191/comments/116
[10:32] <Dave1234> u still there
[10:32] <Dave1234> brb
[10:33] <addlinux> It was created in response to a bug 308191 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[10:34] <addlinux> rly - thanks for the help
[10:34] <Tommy__> 大家好啊
[10:34] <Aison> rly, I wounder what packet owns /usr/include/linux  it's not a symlink
[10:34] <bazhang> !cn | Tommy__
[10:35] <rly> Aison: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-get search /usr/include/linux all as root
[10:36] <rly> Aison: or as sudo.
[10:36] <Aison> kk
[10:36] <Aison> thx
[10:38] <owen1> can someone hit my wiki and tell me if he can see it? http://76.172.9.207:3000/
[10:38] <Aison> rly, well, it's linux-libc-dev ;)
[10:38] <root> haha
[10:38] <root> hello
[10:39] <Guest70239>  您已改名为Guest70239
[10:40] <szal> do I see correctly that smbd and nmbd are automatically set to start on boot?
[10:40] <watsup> hey we like this www.62bo.com
[10:42] <hellhammer> I cant get a plugin mic to work in ubuntu 10.04 it doesnt require drivers its plug and play why won the mic work?
[10:46] <UcefKH> good morining :)
[10:48] <brianb> anyone tried webian?
[10:49] <grobda24> hello, how do I restart the ubuntu install cd installer from the command line ?
[10:52] <grobda24> does anyone know what the CLI command is to restart the installer. I have booted on the live CD installer. I needed to adjust something in the scripts but I don't know how to restart the installer (without rebooting)
[10:52] <grobda24> please answer, I'm kinda in trouble here :(
[10:52] <GolGappa> grobda24: the name of the installer is ubiquity don't know the command
[10:52] <GolGappa> grobda24: try ubiquity, may work
[10:53] <grobda24> GolGappa, thanks ... ubiquity is the graphical installer ?
[10:53] <UcefKH> Installation from the command-line interface
[10:53] <UcefKH> The command-line interface is the default in an Ubuntu server without a desktop, and it is possible, but not recommended, to run Moodle on a standalone server without a desktop. Of course, an Ubuntu or Kubuntu desktop is easily added to a server (using one of the commands: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop). From the Ubuntu desktop the command-line interface is reached using Terminal; from a Kubuntu desktop it is re
[10:53] <UcefKH> ached using Konsole.
[10:53] <FloodBot1> UcefKH: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:53] <GolGappa> grobda24: yup
[10:53] <sonu> heyyy hi golgappa
[10:54] <grobda24> GolGappa, thanks, I'll go and try that now, cheers mate
[10:54] <olskolirc> how do i get ppa respository i don't have it in my sources.list
[10:54] <Cradam> hi i am having trouble with my LAMP set up
[10:54] <Valentinian> Hi. How can I disable password typing at ubuntu server 11.04 startup?
[10:55] <Valentinian> To have an automated login
[10:55] <UcefKH> ok Floodbot
[10:55] <GolGappa> hey sonu
[10:55] <Cradam> when i access http://localhost it doesnt access my server as i can see it doesnt from the logs
[10:55] <sonu> hi
[10:55] <Dave1234> cordiceps: you still there
[10:55] <GolGappa> olskolirc: get the ppa from launchpad and use software centre to add the ppa
[10:55] <sonu> what do u do?
[10:58] <GolGappa> grobda24: Just tried, you need to run the command ubiquity to start the installer from terminal. you may want to kill its other instance if it has crashed.
[10:59] <Dave1234> cordiceps: u there
[10:59] <GolGappa> sonu: you've got issues?
[10:59] <Cradam> hi i am having trouble with my LAMP set up
[10:59] <Cradam> when i access http://localhost it doesnt access my server as i can see it doesnt from the logs
[10:59] <Cradam> it shows a blank page
[10:59] <sonu> ya how to install android on ubuntu natty?
[11:00] <sonu> android os
[11:00] <Cradam> logging into mysql fails aswell
[11:00] <GolGappa> Cradam: you may not have permission to access /var/www
[11:00] <Cradam> its worked in the past
[11:00] <GolGappa> sonu: oh my... its ubuntu dear.
[11:01] <GolGappa> sonu: but you can try android in virtual machine
[11:01] <Cradam> i know i can read the files in var/www
[11:01] <sonu> ha but how?
[11:01] <UcefKH> chmod it
[11:01] <Cradam> sonu: google
[11:01] <GolGappa> Cradam: did you try to restart the server.
[11:01] <Cradam> yes
[11:01] <UcefKH> chmod 775 /var...
[11:01] <Cradam> i looked in the logs aswell
[11:02] <JimXL> Am I the only one that finds FF slows down to a crawl after a few hours?
[11:02] <scarleo_> Some programs are missing their icons in Unity Application view others are missing their name. Can this somehow be fixed?
[11:02] <phox_> JimXL: Use chromium-browser instead, much better imo
[11:02] <olskolirc> thanks GolGappa
[11:02] <JimXL> I do, but debugging js is more difficult
[11:03] <Cradam> UcefKH: tried that command didnt work like i knew it wouldnt
[11:03] <JimXL> I can't expand GET calls.
[11:03] <JimXL> Sometimes I need that.
[11:03] <GolGappa> sonu: install virtualbox and install in there.
[11:03] <ouyes> system crashed when I was trying to open 46 pdf files(they are small, on average less than 1MB) at the same time
[11:03] <sonu> okkk i will try thanks golgappa
[11:04] <rly> JimXL: I do not have that issue.
[11:04] <JimXL> So you don't expand get calls or you know how?
[11:04] <rly> JimXL: what are your system specs and which FF version?
[11:04] <JimXL> FF 3.6 and 4 Ubuntu 10.04
[11:04] <GolGappa> Cradam: do you get any error when you restart apache from terminal.
[11:04] <JimXL> 32 bit.
[11:04] <rly> JimXL: I have done so.
[11:04] <JimXL> I don't see the option.
[11:05] <Valentinian> Hi. How can I disable password typing at ubuntu server 11.04 startup?
[11:05] <sabgenton> is allocation size in windows ntfs the same as block size in ext3?
[11:05] <Cradam> GolGappa: no
[11:05] <JimXL> In FF there's a + sign in front of the get   No sign of a get in chrome.
[11:06] <rly> JimXL: I meant that I did that in FF.
[11:06] <JimXL> OK
[11:06] <rly> JimXL: if you can reproduce a problem, document it, and send in a bug report.
[11:06] <Cradam> not even the one which you get which is minor mainly because i fixed it a few days ago
[11:06] <jamiewan> Valentinian: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/automatically-logon-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-typing-passwords/
[11:06] <JimXL> There's no sign of the get in the debugger, no idicattion that it was ever called.
[11:06] <rly> JimXL: I used chromium, opera, FF and IE for debugging a website ;)
[11:06] <rly> JimXL: or use wireshark.
[11:07] <JimXL> Never heard of that one.
[11:07] <Gozar> vish: i solved my problem, it was quite easy: gnome-terminal --display=:0.* (where * is the monitor)
[11:07] <rly> JimXL: wireshark listens to the wire.
[11:07] <Cradam> rly: wireshark?
[11:07] <JimXL> Right
[11:07] <keito_> hey folks, I have a bit of an issue with a new machine and ubuntu 10.10... It freezes on boot almost every time.  I have to hit escape to get it to boot correctly.  I've looked at the logs and this appears to be the culprit "main.c: Failed to acquire autospawn lock"
[11:07] <JimXL> Nice.  Thanks.
[11:07] <rly> JimXL: it has nothing to do with a browser, but it shows GET requests just fine.
[11:07] <erle-> firefox 5 in proposed updates? nice!
[11:07] <vish> Gozar: neat!
[11:07] <JimXL> That's a thought.
[11:07] <Valentinian> jamiewan: I have tried that, but when I check the automatic login, I have no user to chose from. :|
[11:07] <keito_> it also kernel panics every now and again, and requires a hard reset
[11:08] <Cradam> mozillas new fast release scheme is crap imho
[11:08] <Valentinian> jamiewan: I have tried that, but when I check the automatic login, I have no user to chose from. :| An so I need to do it in terminal
[11:08] <GolGappa> Cradam: I'm don't have much experienc with apache but someone else will help you, if not then try to ask at http://askubuntu.com Its really helpfull.
[11:08] <keito_> how can I get it to boot correctly... pulseaudio appears to not be playing nice
[11:08] <JimXL> kernel panic usually means bad memory
[11:08] <GolGappa> ahh typos.
[11:08] <Cradam> thanks GolGappa
[11:08] <joan> slt
[11:08] <rly> JimXL: or bad maintainers ;)
[11:08] <keito_> JimXL, done a memtest... all good
[11:08] <Gozar> vish: although, haha, now i have nautilus windows above the stuff i want to save and the nautilus windows won't close. so i have to find a way to popup the other windows, and alt+tab doesn't work. (this is kind of fun)
[11:08] <JimXL> OK
[11:09] <vish> Gozar: killall nautilus :D
[11:09] <joan> sava
[11:10] <Gozar> vish: ah, that doesn't touch gnome-panel, right?
[11:10] <vish> Gozar: nope
[11:10] <ruby_on_tails> hey
[11:10] <ruby_on_tails> i installed the latest ubuntu on one of my machines and supertuxkart looks beeter, how can i get the new verison of super tux kart running on my old system ? how do i upgrade it ?
[11:11] <frankS2> apt-get update;apt-get upgrade
[11:11] <frankS2> and, finny nick ruby_on_tails :P
[11:11] <Gozar> vish: haha, i should've done that first! it fixed the mouse pointer and now everything is back to normal. damn you nautilus, next time..
[11:11] <ruby_on_tails> :P
[11:11] <Gozar> vish: cheers :)
[11:11] <vish> :)
[11:11] <keito_> ruby_on_tails, https://launchpad.net/~stk/+archive/dev
[11:12] <ruby_on_tails> thorugh synaptec ?
[11:12] <keito_> frankS2, no, that wouldn't work on an old distro version
[11:12] <keito_> ruby_on_tails, add a ppa .... read the instructions on the site
[11:12] <ruby_on_tails> ppa means ?
[11:12] <keito_> personal package archive
[11:12] <Gozar> vish: i always tend to think too far down the road and most of the time it's the obvious thing that is the problem.. and this time it really was. haha
[11:13] <keito_> it's an external repo, not maintainted by Ubuntu
[11:13] <keito_> be careful when adding them... some could contain malicious software
[11:13] <ruby_on_tails> i will try to download the deb file
[11:13] <keito_> ruby_on_tails, k
[11:14] <clakes> anyone using deadbeef as a player and knowing how to print current track to say nicotine+?
[11:15] <Morten_> I use deadbeef, but I don't know what nicotine is. It is possible to print the current track to the terminal.
[11:16] <clakes> mhm, i guess it's possible in the terminal, yes... i manage to once if i recall correctly
[11:16] <clakes> what's the command for that if you remember, please?
[11:16] <Morten_> deadbeef --nowplaying "%a - %t (%b)"
[11:17] <Morten_> for artist, track and album (iirc)
[11:17] <clakes> i'll see if it works in nicotine just as well
[11:19] <clakes> wohoo! works!  thank you Morty dear
[11:19] <Morten_> clakes, you are welcome =)
[11:19] <clakes> =)
[11:22] <UcefKH> @ucefkh
[11:23] <UcefKH> uNdERgrOuNd
[11:24] <UcefKH> hAcKeRz
[11:24] <UcefKH> :)
[11:27] <zeroburn> hay is there a chanel specificly for SED or can I ask here for assistance?
[11:28] <Guest76002>  :)
[11:31] <JimXL> zeroburn: just ask
[11:32] <zeroburn>  need help with the following: I want to parse a html file, only leaving text between two DIFFERENT delimiters. The file is multi lined, but the text i require is on every line (its from a pidgin log file, html format) how can this be accomplished?
[11:32] <YankDownUnder> zeroburn, ...might be best asked in a developer's channel mate....
[11:33] <zeroburn> YankDownUnder: auhm whats the channel name of such? please
[11:33] <IdleOne> #bash maybe?
[11:33] <JimXL> so you've got a line that looks like .....[ sdfsdfsfd ] ...... and all you want is the stuff between the brackets?
[11:33] <DirtyDawg> or ##linux
[11:33] <IdleOne> not sure if that would be the right place
[11:33] <YankDownUnder> Yeah - most likely #bash ....
[11:34] <JimXL> It's pretty easy in perl.
[11:34] <zeroburn> JimXL: Something like that, but much more complex line...
[11:34] <alvinPH> hello buddies! sadly i,ve got the most evil bug, my xubuntu 11.04 was entirely lost after my sister unknowingly booted the windows 7 recovery partition..
[11:34] <JimXL> The evil bug is MS
[11:35] <IdleOne> alvinPH: and started the recovery process?
[11:36] <Cradam> is it possible to unmount sda1?
[11:36] <IdleOne> not while using it
[11:36] <YankDownUnder> ...depends on what's on it, eh?
[11:36] <alvinPH> was that an official bug? i immediately exited the recovery, gosh, when it exit the dialogue "error: no such ... grub rescue:>" came out and i'm too embarrased
[11:36] <YankDownUnder> alvinPH, Use liveCD, reinstall grub2
[11:36] <IdleOne> !grub2 | alvinPH reinstall grub
[11:36] <Cradam> is it possible to boot ubuntu in ram-only mode
[11:37] <psyop> how did i ever get along with gnome, I love openbox <3
[11:37] <Cradam> psyop: ...............................
[11:37] <alvinPH> luckily i made a 64bit mint 9, but reinstalling grub isn't working
[11:37] <YankDownUnder> Openbox & Blackbox & Fluxbox are great for minimalistic things....if ya like any of those, ya might give Enlightenment a stab...
[11:37] <\sda> hi all, question! I would like have a faster standby\stop\suspend on my pc, Now I need 15sec to stop and 15sec to start! Almost the time I need to boot! What can I do?
[11:37] <psyop> Cradam: nice dots.
[11:38] <Cradam> for some reason my iso which i got out of a magazine doesnt use grub
[11:38] <Cradam> psyop: jwm
[11:38] <Cradam> is nicer than OB
[11:38] <YankDownUnder> I never bother with suspend or hibernate or whatever...just boot/shutdown on me netbook/laptop - I can live with the 15 to 20 seconds it takes to boot...
[11:38] <alvinPH> hey, what are your commands to reinstall grub? i've just used those stated in forums
[11:39] <Gozar> what's that one called.. fwm95..? can't rem..
[11:39] <Cradam> Gozar: not that is crap
[11:39] <Cradam> *now
[11:39] <YankDownUnder> Fvwm95....hehehehehheheheheheh....used that yonks ago...for a while...as well, OLvwm...
[11:40] <Cradam> i get used to my WM's quirks they dont hinder me that much
[11:40] <Cradam> so i can use any
[11:40] <Cradam> kde is wear i draw the line at any though
[11:40] <YankDownUnder> Cradam, Try amiwm
[11:40] <Cradam> oh and i wont use evilWM
[11:40] <YankDownUnder> KDE? Krappy Desktop Environment? ;)
[11:41] <Cradam> yes
[11:41] <Cradam> not as bad as evbil though
[11:41] <YankDownUnder> I gave up on KDE when it went past the 3.5 series...
[11:41] <Cradam> i cant wait to try gnome 3
[11:41] <DirtyDawg> KDE just *feels* like bloat to me
[11:42] <JimXL> Me too.
[11:42] <Cradam> it looks really nice
[11:42] <DirtyDawg> true
[11:42] <Gozar> KDE is at least functional
[11:42] <JimXL> It actually didn't work on my hardware.
[11:42] <YankDownUnder> Cradam, IF you strip out all the BS, Gnome3 ain't all that bad - and it's easily tweaked to be as functional as Gnome2 (Gnome = Gee, No Me!) ;)
[11:43] <Cradam> no its pronounced nome as in tome
[11:43] <JimXL> 10.04 KDE crashed before I even got to log in.
[11:43] <Gozar> g-nome, like gnu, g-nu
[11:43] <Cradam> you dont pronounce the g
[11:44] <YankDownUnder> ...back in the day (like in the later 90's) we used to like to say it as "Guh Nome!" just to piss folks off....
[11:44] <Cradam> lol
[11:44] <DirtyDawg> i thought it was nome as in home -H
[11:44] <Cradam> i used to do that before the teacher taught us about silent letters
[11:44] <YankDownUnder> It is....like "Nome, Alaska"...
[11:44] <Cradam> DirtyDawg: tome is similar to home
[11:44] <DirtyDawg> true
[11:45] <zcat[1]> foam?
[11:45] <Cradam> can you get gnome 3 in ubuntu 10.04?
[11:45] <YankDownUnder> Hehehehehehe....Gnome leaves ya foamin! ;)
[11:45] <Guest14803> Like the silent 'c' in rap music
[11:45] <Cradam> zcat[1]: close enough
[11:45] <DirtyDawg> haha Guest14803
[11:45] <Cradam> what silent c
[11:45] <YankDownUnder> hehehehehehhehehehehehehehe....love it...
[11:46] <Cradam> at the mouth?
[11:46] <zcat[1]> or like the P in swimming..
[11:46] <YankDownUnder> Yes, there are ways of getting PPA's for Gnome3 for Ubuntu 11.04 and higher...
[11:46] <Cradam> YankDownUnder: i said 10.04
[11:46] <IdleOne> Cradam: I don't think so
[11:46] <YankDownUnder> Cradam, OH SORRY MATE...sorry...just noticed the .04 at the end...my bad...
[11:47] <Cradam> i might use the apt-get way of updating ubuntu
[11:47] <nonamer> anybody has the idea how good is anomos
[11:47] <Cradam> to 11
[11:47] <YankDownUnder> http://superuser.com/questions/267894/gnome-3-on-ubuntu-10-04-10-10
[11:48] <Guest14803> Anyone where I should locate jwasm binary for config to find it?
[11:48] <nonamer> any user of anomos torrent downloader
[11:48] <sharperguy> Hey. I'm trying to reformat my micro SD card which is in my mp3 player using gparted. I had to create a partition table. It creates the partition but fails to format it saying "Unable to access /dev/sdc1"
[11:48] <Cradam> ill just install fedora to have a look at gnome
[11:48] <Cradam> 3
[11:48] <YankDownUnder> If you're looking for "jwasm" => in a term type: whereis jwasm
[11:49] <Gozar> What's the prefered way of installing KDE on Ubuntu 10.04? Just apt-get install kde?
[11:49] <Cradam> Gozar: dont you dare type that
[11:49] <YankDownUnder> Cradam, I just got the liveCD of Fedora 15 to have a squiz at Gnome3 and test some things...s'all right, but I'll stick with my happy Gnome2 until I have no other option.
[11:50] <Cradam> YankDownUnder: you mean next year when you wont have any option
[11:50] <Guest14803> Thanks, My Question was not clear enough.  I have the binary but the auto .configure instruction does not find it, do I have ot edict the config file or should I move the binary to a specific directory?
[11:50] <sharperguy> ^ Exact error is: 'mkdosfs -F32 -v -n  "" /dev/sdc1', 'mkdosfs: unable to open  /dev/sdc1'
[11:50] <YankDownUnder> Cradam, I'll keep my "working" business laptop running 10.10 as long as I possibly can before upgrading any further...so if that's next year or three years, that's it mate! ;)
[11:51] <Guest14803> to edit doh!
[11:51] <Gozar> Cradam: I'm asking mostly because the distro Trisquel (which is Ubuntu but 100% free) doesn't have a KDE distro yet, so I'll just try that if nothing else. Is it kde or kde-desktop or..?
[11:51] <loxs> hmm, in previous versions of ubuntu there used to be (as far as I remember in /etc/bash.bashrc) a setting that needed to get uncommented in order to get the "default" dir color and bash prompt settings? Now I don't see such a thing. How is this done now?
[11:51] <YankDownUnder> Edit the .configure if you so desire, however, you might find that you're needing some of the dev files for the package...
[11:51] <maalac> hi
[11:52] <Guest14803> Thanks, I will try that first and then see.
[11:52] <YankDownUnder> loxs, I'll assume you've googled on how to change bash colours?
[11:52] <maalac> need some help on freezing up on boot using Ubuntu 11.04 natty
[11:52] <Cradam> YankDownUnder: if you want gnome 2 aslong as possible shouldnt you downgrade to 10.04
[11:52] <maalac> pls. help me ..
[11:52] <Cradam> from 10.10
[11:52] <loxs> YankDownUnder, I don't want to change them one by one. Ubuntu used to have good defaults. I just want them
[11:53] <maalac> this is my worst experience i've ever had on ubuntu ..
[11:53] <YankDownUnder> Cradam, nah - sticking with 10.10 mate
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> i skipped 10.10
[11:53] <Cradam> 10.04 will give support for longer
[11:53] <Cradam> about a year longer
[11:53] <Cradam> LTS gets 3 years i think non LTS gets 18months me thinks
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> !ask| maalac
[11:55] <maalac> how do i fix boot up problem on ubuntu 11.04
[11:55] <JimXL> What's it doing?
[11:55] <maalac> it freezes up ..when i select the kernel 2.6.38-8-generic-pae kernel
[11:55] <Cradam> go back to the old one
[11:56] <JimXL> Is anything displayed?
[11:56] <wsagent> i hava problems with my wifi .. it is getting proper ip and can ping to the router but no internet access in ubuntu but i have win7 installed in the same laptop and wifi and ether net working fine
[11:56] <Cradam> then see if there are any updates for a newer kernel
[11:56] <Cradam> whats the current kernel?
[11:57] <wsagent> i hava problems with my wifi .. it is getting proper ip and can ping to the router but no internet access in ubuntu but i have win7 installed in the same laptop and wifi and ether net working fine
[11:57] <Cradam> talking to the room in general then
[11:57] <BlouBlou> Cradam: 2.6.38-8
[11:57] <maalac> i'm currenlty boot up as failsafex 2.6.35-28-generic
[11:57] <JimXL> maalac: edit the entry in grub and remove the "quiet" option.
[11:57] <Cradam> ahh
[11:57] <maalac> how do i do that ..
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> maalac: please ur question in one line, so we dont have to scroll up
[11:57] <JimXL> maalac: at the grub menu enter e
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> *put
[11:57] <maalac> from rhel i know its /boot/grub/grub.conf
[11:58] <JimXL> mallac:no at boot time.
[11:58] <maalac> how about in ubuntu ?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> maalac: please put ur question in one line, so we dont have to scroll up
[11:58] <YankDownUnder> /etc/default/grub
[11:58] <wsagent> will anybody pls help me out
[11:58] <sharperguy> Can I use dd to backup and restore a usb drive to a .iso? Eg "dd -if /dev/sdc -of ~/backup.iso"?
[11:58] <wsagent> i hava problems with my wifi .. it is getting proper ip and can ping to the router but no internet access in ubuntu but i have win7 installed in the same laptop and wifi and ether net working fine
[11:59] <Cradam> wsagent: more details please
[11:59] <Cradam> which ubuntu etc
[11:59] <JimXL> mallac: when you boot your system hold down the shift key if you are running grub2 you will see the grub menu
[11:59] <maalac> shall i remove this entry GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[11:59] <Cradam> JimXL: is that why i dont see the menu?
[11:59] <JimXL> Cradam: Yes
[12:00] <Cradam> maalac: you can schange it oto false but dont delete
[12:00] <JimXL> Grub2 default is quiet
[12:00] <JimXL> maalac: don't screw around with the grub config file.
[12:00] <bittyx-laptop> i have a program (sublime text, a text editor) that i've downloaded for my ubuntu, and unpacked into my home dir (it doesn't have an installation). in order to start it from the terminal, i have to browse to the dir and then start it with "sublime_text". how can i make it so that anywhere i'm currently at, typing "sublime" starts it? kind of like i can do "gedit filename" or just "gedit" no matter where i am?
[12:00] <JimXL> maalac: that's too much like work.
[12:00] <maalac> ok. is this fixes it ? or for me to find out the problem ?
[12:01] <JimXL> maalac: no it doesn't fix it, but it will let you see how far the boot process is going before it stops.
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> bittyx-laptop: place the program in /usr/bin
[12:01] <JimXL> maalac: once you know where it's stopping you can maybe tell what causing it.
[12:01] <Koritsa> hello, can someone help me with alcatel x220 usb modem (3g) i cant make ubuntu 10.04 to recognize it
[12:02] <davro> bittyx-laptop: just create an alias in your .bashrc ??
[12:02] <bittyx-laptop> MonkeyDust: just the actual executable file? or do i need to copy everything?
[12:02] <maalac> i'll reboot and see how it goes..thanks
[12:02] <bittyx-laptop> davro: ohh, alias. yeah, that's what i'm looking for (i think). thanks.
[12:02] <JimXL> maalac: OK
[12:03] <maalac> hi again.
[12:03] <JimXL> Hi
[12:03] <maalac> i'll pastebin the boot logs ..
[12:03] <davro> bittyx-laptop: alias yourprogram='/path/to/your/program'
[12:03] <jamiewan> Koritsa: try googling sakis3g found a script there helped me out
[12:03] <wsagent> i hava problems with my wifi .. it is getting proper ip and can ping to the router but no internet access in ubuntu but i have win7 installed in the same laptop and wifi and ether net working fine
[12:03] <alvinPH> hello buddies, hw can i upgrade firefox 3.6 via terminal?
[12:04] <Koritsa> someone alive?
[12:04] <wsagent> i hava problems with my wifi .. it is getting proper ip and can ping to the router but no internet access in ubuntu but i have win7 installed in the same laptop and wifi and ether net working fine
[12:04] <JimXL> maalac: are you getting boot logs when booting the kernel that's hanging?
[12:04] <jamiewan> Koritsa: ?
[12:04] <bittyx-laptop> davro: how do i deal with spaces in the path name? %20 ?
[12:04] <Gozar> Koritsa: we're all bots
[12:04] <jamiewan> lol
[12:05] <maalac> yes hold on ..i'll pastebin
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> bittyx-laptop: add a backslash \
[12:05] <maalac> here ..Jimxl: https://pzt.me/5dzy
[12:05] <bittyx-laptop> MonkeyDust: ah, just escape it. thanks.
[12:06] <Guest14803> quit
[12:06] <wsagent> i hava problems with my wifi .. it is getting proper ip and can ping to the router but no internet access in ubuntu but i have win7 installed in the same laptop and wifi and ether net working fine
[12:07] <wsagent> pls help me out
[12:07] <JimXL> maalac: what am I looking at?
[12:07] <maalac> that is the boot.log and boostrap.log
[12:07] <JimXL> wsagent: check resolv.conf
[12:07] <davro> bittyx-laptop: remember to source ~/.bashrc when you have made the changes or just open a new terminal.
[12:07] <wsagent> thanks JimXL
[12:08] <JimXL> maalac:  if the system isn't booting how do you get the logs??
[12:08] <maalac> i'm currently on failsafx ..using previous kernel ..
[12:08] <JimXL> So those are not the logs from the failing kernel.
[12:08] <bittyx-laptop> davro: yeah, done that already, works great. thanks. is there a way to also add 'sublime' as a recognized program, so when i press alt+f2 (run application), i can type 'sublime' and start it?
[12:09] <JimXL> wsagent: can you ping host outside of your lan with the ip address rather than the host name?
[12:10] <JimXL> wsagent: try ping 208.93.233.8
[12:10] <maalac> where do i get that ..
[12:10] <maalac> ?
[12:11] <JimXL> maalac: where do you get what?
[12:11] <davro> bittyx-laptop: that would most probably be a gnome desktop entry somewhere not to sure ?
[12:11] <maalac> the logs for kernel that is failing ..
[12:11] <JimXL> It's called catch 22.
[12:11] <bittyx-laptop> davro: okay, i'll look for that then. thanks.
[12:11] <JimXL> You can't until after you boot.
[12:12] <maalac> hmm...
[12:12] <fuzzybunny69y> hey guys I was working in a program and I clicked on a menu and now the menu is like stuck on my screen even if I go into another program and I don't know how to get rid of it without restarting. I tried changing my resolution changing to a another tty with ctrl+alt+f1 and it is still showing up. Does anyone know how to get rid of it
[12:12] <JimXL> That's why I want you to reboot the bad kernel with the "quiet" removed so you can see where it stops.
[12:12] <fuzzybunny69y> oh and I tried running xkill and then click on it but it doesn't work
[12:12] <jamiewan> fuzzybunny69y: try log out and back in
[12:13] <fuzzybunny69y> jamiewan, I was trying to do it without logging out
[12:13] <fuzzybunny69y> or restarting
[12:13] <JimXL> do a ps and see if it's running
[12:13] <JimXL> if so, kill it.
[12:13] <JimXL> If not, X is hosed.  Log out.
[12:15] <fuzzybunny69y> oh ok
[12:15] <fuzzybunny69y> I xkill the main program and it went away
[12:15] <fuzzybunny69y> do you guys know how to logout xwindows from another tty
[12:15] <atul> Hi I have sony laptop, I have win7+Ubunut-11.04 [gdm+kdm] after up gradation to 11.04 when switch from gdm to kdm my laptop is not booting throwing error "kdm disable in BIOS"
[12:15] <fuzzybunny69y> like when you hit ctrl+alt+f1
[12:21] <bitchx> im getting an error - can not mount /dev/loop0 when im trying to boot backtrack 5 via usb flash
[12:21] <Koritsa> can someone help me configure alcatel usb modem?!
[12:23] <Zeu5> hi there, i have .image files
[12:23] <Zeu5> i dunno how to run them in ubuntu
[12:23] <Koritsa> haa
[12:23] <Zeu5> do i convert them into .iso or .bin? if so, how?
[12:24] <valadares> can you help me?i can't use lsusb...
[12:25] <szal> valadares: why not?
[12:25] <valadares> szal:it don't works
[12:25] <Koritsa> why gnome does not let me try connect to the internet via my usb-modem which been recognized?
[12:26] <szal> valadares: "it don't works" is NOT a precise error description
[12:26] <Zeu5> hi there
[12:26] <Zeu5> i cannot google for any instructions on how to run .image files
[12:27] <Zeu5> i have never seen them before either. please help
[12:27] <valadares> szal: I put the command and nothing happens
[12:27] <szal> Zeu5: 1. define "run"; 2. where are these files from?
[12:27] <Zeu5> .image files are for GNS3
[12:27] <sebyte> hi all, anyone close to the team in charge of the 'Ubuntu Software Centre'?
[12:27] <szal> valadares: tried 'sudo lsusb'?
[12:27] <szal> Zeu5: whatever that is..
[12:28] <Zeu5> i am trying to run GNS3 its a simulator for cisco routers
[12:28] <valadares> szal: yes, and i already tried to use it how root
[12:28] <Zeu5> apparently it is supposed to be image files, but Gmount-iso cannot run it
[12:28] <atul> win7+Ubunut-11.04 [gdm+kdm] after up gradation to 11.04 when switch from gdm to kdm my laptop is not booting throwing error "kdm disable in BIOS"
[12:28] <JimXL> fuzzybunny69y: kill the display manager
[12:28] <Zeu5> szal: that is all i know so far
[12:30] <jimmie> Hey, not strictly related but I guess some of you might have run into the same problem. Is it impossible to change your MSN nickname via Pidgin?
[12:32] <sharperguy> I now officially both love and hate dd
[12:32] <DirtyDawg> :(
[12:33] <Yami_Bas> hello guys
[12:33] <Yami_Bas> i have a question do i completely switch from pulse to alsa?
[12:33] <Yami_Bas> since pulse doesnt support DTS o rDD..
[12:34] <jnlsnl_> i forgot where you usually put bash scripts that needs sudo
[12:35] <llutz_> Zeu5: you probably want to go to http://www.gns3.net/download, follow the link to ubuntu-packages  and use the version (available up to maverick) from there
[12:39] <Wisnia> hello, what is good program for managing partitions in ubuntu?
[12:39] <Wisnia> fixing disk problems and partitions...
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Wisnia: depends on what you want to do
[12:40] <Wisnia> diagnose,resize,create etc...
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> Wisnia: there's gparted, there's lvm, there's fsck
[12:42] <Wisnia> thanks
[12:48] <cx> i would like to ask a question? do you prefer unity desktop for programmers
[12:48] <Aison> I would like to build a custom kernel and so far that works
[12:49] <Aison> but I also need to build linux-libc-dev package. How do I build that?!?
[12:49] <atul> Sony laptop while booting from Ubuntu-11.04 throwing error "ubuntu kstartupconfig4 does not exist" failed to login any pointers will help ?
[12:51] <thomase> I have a T410 running 10.10 with 2.6.35-28-generic and I have load 1 all the time, even if there is *nothing* running (even X shut down). I fear it is some IRQ stuff, anyone here that can help me debugging this?
[12:51] <Diverdude> hello. It seems that only netbeans 6.9 and lower is supported on ubuntu. Can that really be true? Am I missing something? Is it somehow possible to install netbeans 7.0 on ubuntu?
[12:52] <escott> thomase, have you looked at top output yet?
[12:52] <thomase> escott: sure, there is nothing consuming any cpu
[12:52] <Zeu5> llutz: thanks
[12:53] <Jacco> ive succesfully installed grub2 efi on my mac mini but no matter what I do (grub-mkimage or changing the grub.cfg), I still get a brief error saying: Error: Prefix is not set. There is no prefix variable in grub.cfg so I assume it is the prefix set when you do grub-mkimage but i still get that error...
[12:54] <marco_> pidgin doesn't start... this is the message... pidgin: symbol lookup error: pidgin: undefined symbol: purple_media_element_info_get_type
[12:54] <Diverdude> hello. It seems that only netbeans 6.9 and lower is supported on ubuntu. Can that really be true? Am I missing something? Is it somehow possible to install netbeans 7.0 on ubuntu?
[12:54] <Yami_Bas> can anyone provide me with some ALSA support?
[12:55] <Gozar> thomase: have you tried a newer kernel (a livecd or something)?
[12:56] <JimXL> Yami_Bas: there is an alsa channel
[12:56] <JimXL> There are currently 62 people on.
[12:56] <Yami_Bas> i am in it
[12:56] <Yami_Bas> however the channel is dead...
[12:57] <JimXL> OK
[12:57] <thomase> Gozar: no, good idea to boot a livecd - do you recommend to use any specific kernel?
[12:57] <Yami_Bas> but thanks :)
[12:57] <thomase> Gozar: 2.6.35-28 is what i'm currently running and I have the issue since some time
[12:58] <BlouBlou> thomase: Do you have Empathy loaded?
[12:58] <BlouBlou> It may be trying to connect to it
[12:58] <jakbeatz> I'm running 9.10 and the rancid package in 9.10 is only at 2.3.2.  11.10's rancid package is 2.3.6 and I'd like to install that.  What's the easiest way to do that?  Just download the deb and install it or is there a 'better' way?
[12:58] <Gozar> thomase: just some later kernel, maybe the latest you can find with a livecd and then go backwards and see where it got fixed?
[12:59] <Jacco> jakbeatz: why 9.10? :P
[12:59] <JimXL> jakbeatz: that probably won't work due to dependencies
[12:59] <JimXL> Try backports
[13:00] <jakbeatz> Jacco I guess because I'm new to Ubuntu and didn't want to necessarily install the latest and greatest. I wanted to stay back a version as I assumed it would be a bit more stable.
[13:00] <thomase> Gozar: you're right, it's a quite good idea instead of debugging the everything, although i would really like to know what the problem is...
[13:00] <JimXL> Isn't 9.10 unsupported?
[13:00] <compdoc> 9.10 seems back quite a ways
[13:00] <lapaga> !eol
[13:01] <marco_> why pidgin doesn't start?? this is the message from the terminal ... pidgin: symbol lookup error: pidgin: undefined symbol: purple_media_element_info_get_type
[13:01] <JimXL> I was running 9.10 on my laptop and I couldn't update.
[13:01] <Jacco> 9.10 isnt even a long term support release
[13:01] <compdoc> jakbeatz, always start with the latest
[13:01] <Gozar> thomase: yeah, but that's an idea to get closer to where the problem might be.. that is, if it is a kernel bug..
[13:02] <Jacco> jakbeatz: I would suggest upgrading to atleast the latest LTS release or simply to natty
[13:02] <JimXL> jakbeatz: go to 10.04
[13:02] <JimXL> Update manager has an option to do just that.
[13:03] <JimXL> I did it on my laptop last week.
[13:03] <JimXL> Worked as advertised.
[13:03] <thomase> Gozar: you're absolutely right, I'll try that and hopefully find out whether the problem is fixed in a newer kernel
[13:03] <Gozar> thomase: at least check if it's the same on the 10.10 livecd? ..and if it is, then 10.04, 11.04..
[13:04] <Jacco> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[13:04] <jakbeatz> Ok, well I can certainly upgrade, but even still, the package I'm looking for is only in 11.10, so I've read that I can use aptitude to resolve the deps sanely, but I just don't know what's involved in that - just modify the sources.list to add the bits from oneric?
[13:04] <Jacco> howto on update-manager
[13:04] <JimXL> Or Fedora live cd
[13:05] <JimXL> jakbeatz: that's usually a recipe for disaster.
[13:06] <JimXL> jakbeatz: upgrade to 10.04, then install KVM and put an instance of 11.10 in a container.
[13:09] <llutz_> jakbeatz: that could work if the package you need has only few deps, hardly affecting other stuff. if its going to replace lots of libs, you're likely to break your system.
[13:09] <Jacco> jakor just manually install rancid out side of the package system
[13:09] <Jacco> jakbeatz: i mean
[13:10] <JimXL> Download the latest rancid source and recompile it.
[13:12] <jakbeatz> Ya, it's sounding like compiling from source is the way to do it...   I wonder if I can compile from a source deb from 11.10.  I just don't want to install from raw source because I don't want it to smatter files all over the place that is inconsistent with how the package would install the same files if it were supported.
[13:13] <Jacco> jakbeatz: you can try reading into how you can make your own package from scratch too.. lol
[13:14] <JimXL> There's a program call checkinstall that will let you generate a deb from any software that uses make install
[13:14] <JimXL> You can generate your own deb  (or rpm) using that utility.
[13:15] <JimXL> It's a neat utility.  I have used it a number of times.
[13:17] <JimXL> jakbeatz: you will most likely have to upgrade to at least 10.04.  Rancid has a dependency on expect >5.40  9.,10 might have an older one.
[13:17] <eamon> Hello, I would like to communicate in #ubuntu over SILC, for privacy reasons. Does #ubuntu have a SILC server?
[13:19] <jakbeatz> Thanks for the suggestions..
[13:19] <Valentinian> Hi. How can I make my ubuntu system start without asking me for user and password?
[13:19] <Valentinian> Hi. How can I make my ubuntu system start without asking me for user and password? (from the terminal)
[13:20] <JimXL> eamon: Wouldn't that be a question for freenode?
[13:25] <JimXL> Valentinian: mingetty might work
[13:26] <JimXL> http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2010/03/setup-auto-login-using-mingetty/
[13:27] <J11> what could make a gzipped file much bigger than the original?
[13:27] <ikonia> J11: what are you gzipping ?
[13:28] <J11> drive image i think it was, was trying to free some space from my disk and found it
[13:28] <ikonia> run file against it, what type of data is in it ?
[13:28] <ikonia> (the file before zipped)
[13:29] <c0ngr355> can someone help me with a driver install? i'm trying to install the rt73-k2wrlz-3.0.3 driver on ubuntu 11.04 with no luck
[13:30] <c0ngr355> for a usb wirelles card using that chipset
[13:30] <Jacco> J11 google has some answers for ya :)
[13:30] <ikonia> J11: don't tell people to randomly google things,
[13:31] <c0ngr355> beleve me i tryed all she sugestions..
[13:31] <Jacco> ok : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/compress-file-size-bigger-than-uncompress-in-gzip-format-718130/
[13:32] <ikonia> Jacco: much better, thank you
[13:32] <Jacco> :)
[13:33] <minsik> hi. i need help with bluetooth device under ubuntu natty narwhal...
[13:34] <jimmie> Dont suppose anyone's from Montreal are they?
[13:34] <oCean> jimmie: maybe, but this channel is only for technical support
[13:35] <grmrgecko> So just to get someone ready with an answer. I have a Asus Eee PC Seashell and I'm installing Ubuntu. I have a problem installing the boot loader, grub and lilo, and I do not know why that could happen. I am guessing lilo failed because of the large bios option I gave it, and so I'm reinstalling to test without it.
[13:35] <grmrgecko> I may need to wipe the boot records
[13:35] <grmrgecko> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows would this help me with the minimal cd?
[13:36] <jimmie> oCean: Yeah apologies, I didnt mean to put that here. Sorry.
[13:37] <oCean> jimmie: no problem. On the pidgin issue, I don't have an answer, there is channel #pidgin though
[13:39] <jimmie> Oh thats OK mate, I got an answer. Cheers though.
[13:40] <J11> well the image is 2.5GB inside a 53.5GB gz
[13:41] <julie> grmrgecko, please give us the errors you get with both lilo and grub...  BTW since when is a bios provided to lilo?
[13:41] <julie> sorry just waking up
[13:41] <julie> :)
[13:41] <grmrgecko> julie: It says something about newer bios
[13:41] <grmrgecko> and such like that
[13:41] <julie> gotcha
[13:41] <J11> still trying to unpack it
[13:42] <grmrgecko> and larger than 15MB master boot record
[13:42] <julie> but what errors do you get?
[13:42] <julie> hmmm
[13:42] <grmrgecko> let me reboot my iPod to get the answer to that (iOS 5 is so buggy)
[13:42] <julie> sure
[13:43] <julie> I just don't get why your boot record would be so large
[13:43] <Kjartan> Hello, i'm having a very specific problem. I am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook using USB. But during the load the machine shuts off, both for live and install. I can't even notice the error because it turns off so fast. Is there anything I can do to help me find the problem?
[13:44] <gul> getting this error - W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 32B18A1260D8DA0B
[13:44] <gul>  . What to do?
[13:44] <julie> Kjartan, did you try the alternate iso with minimal option?
[13:44] <VOTProductions> Hi
[13:44] <Kjartan> Which would that be? I've tried both netbook remix and standard edition.
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> gul: install seahorse-plugins
[13:44] <VOTProductions> Hello everybody.
[13:44] <gul> MonkeyDust: for what?
[13:45] <grmrgecko> julie: Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda
[13:45] <julie> grmrgecko, does it give anything else?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> gul: to try and sove your gpg problem
[13:45] <grmrgecko> not that I remember.
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> solve*
[13:45] <grmrgecko> It's installing Ubuntu Desktop now
[13:45] <Kjartan> julie: netbook remix 10.04 and standard 11.04 is what I've tried
[13:45] <VOTProductions> So... does anyone need help or is it all fine?
[13:46] <gul> MonkeyDust: I fixed this prob LONG time back on Mint. The way was different. But lets see with this one....
[13:46] <grmrgecko> so after that is done (1054 of 1063)
[13:46] <mrdeb> is there a channel for gnome 3
[13:46] <BlouBlou> mrdeb: #gnome
[13:46] <julie> grmrgecko, let us know once you've completed the install so we can check your boot options
[13:46] <VOTProductions> mrdeb...
[13:46] <VOTProductions> What is your GNOME 3 problem?
[13:47] <BlouBlou> VOTProductions: that's not supported here
[13:47] <gul> MonkeyDust: seahorse-plugins are for encryption........?????
[13:47] <julie> !gnome3|mrdeb
[13:47] <enriq> hi. I have 10.04 and I want to install 11. I have separate boot and root partitions, I'd like to install to a new root partition and add all the same stuff
[13:47] <mrdeb> VOTProductions: the brightness of the screne is reset at each boot. it does nto save the birghtness
[13:48] <VOTProductions> Ah.
[13:48] <rileyp> any network gurus out there
[13:48] <rileyp> need a littl ehelp with dns dhcp etc
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> gul: that is correct, you need you encryption key
[13:48] <alvinPH> hello buddies, how can i report bugs?
[13:48] <julie> what is it rileyp?
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> alvinPH: launchpad
[13:48] <VOTProductions> mrdeb: hang on...
[13:48] <oCean> rileyp: just a suggestion: there is also the channel ##networking
[13:48] <alvinPH> i'm running mint 9 :D
[13:48] <rileyp> I have a ubuntu diskless server
[13:49] <rileyp> ok networking....
[13:49] <oCean> alvinPH: mint is not supported here
[13:49] <rileyp> thx
[13:49] <enriq> hi. I have 10.04 and I want to install 11. I have separate boot and root partitions, I'd like to install to a new root partition and add all the same stuff. So I created a new partition for 11's root. What's next?
[13:49] <julie> !join ##networking
[13:49] <rileyp> enriq: hi. I have 10.04 and I want to install 11 nooooooooo dont do it............
[13:49] <alvinPH> because i lost ubuntu aftr my sister accidentally booted the recovery partition
[13:49] <julie> darn
[13:49] <rileyp> wait for the next lts
[13:49] <enriq> rileyp, why not :)
[13:49] <imadper> is ubuntu 11.04 deleted the dict?
[13:50] <MIH1406> Hi, I want compression application with more options than the FileRoler
[13:50] <amit1> nick/ amit11
[13:50] <rileyp> enriq: wait for the next lts
[13:50] <rileyp> what do you hope to achieve anyway
[13:50] <lastk> hey guys, I have installed the ubuntu here and I dont have the grub, all tutorials I found is to recover the grub from a live cd or something else, but in my case, I can run the ubuntu I just cant run the windows :(
[13:50] <iceroot> MIH1406: use the shell
[13:50] <imadper> How could I add dict in ubuntu 11.04?
[13:51] <rileyp> 10.04 is rock solid goodness
[13:51] <julie> rileyp, what's you networking problem?
[13:51] <MIH1406> I want a GUI
[13:51] <psyop> 10.04 <3
[13:51] <MIH1406> I do not have time for learning the shell
[13:51] <enriq> rileyp, ok but... at least 10.10
[13:51] <amit1> imadper: from software center
[13:52] <rileyp> lastk:  so you need to run sudo update-grub and it should detect windows..... then reboot
[13:52] <imadper> amit1: what name? dict?
[13:52] <jrib> MIH1406: what options do you want that file roller does not provide?
[13:52] <julie> MIH1406, what options are you looking for in that application?
[13:52] <amit1> just type dictionary
[13:52] <epzil0n> lastk: do you have a dualboot machine?
[13:52] <amit1> there are many
[13:52] <imadper> amit1: ok，thx~
[13:52] <lastk> epzil0n : yep
[13:52] <julie> that's timing jrib :)
[13:52] <lastk> rileyp : I'll try, thank you
[13:52] <jrib> julie: :)
[13:52] <epzil0n> lastk: what ubuntu version?
[13:52] <VOTProductions> lastk: Just a word of warning: Don't disturb the process.
[13:53] <lastk> 11.04 epzil0n
[13:53] <MIH1406> I want to add files to a .zip file without compression.
[13:53] <epzil0n> lastk: log into ubuntu and open a terminal and type: sudo update-grub
[13:53] <amit1> hii zeitgeist-datah status in system monitor is showing as zombie.. is it a cause of concern?
[13:53] <alvinPH> how can i upgrade via usb drive?
[13:53] <rileyp> epzil0n:  your about 10 posts behind :D
[13:53] <lastk> epzil0n : yeah, I did it like the rileyp told me
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> MIH1406: maybe this link is useful http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Utilities/Compression/
[13:53] <epzil0n> lastk: grub should then find your windows and add it to the boot menu
[13:53] <epzil0n> ahh :D
[13:53] <epzil0n> sry
[13:53] <lastk> too simple ;D
[13:53] <lastk> like that ; )
[13:53] <epzil0n> just logged in
[13:54] <julie> MIH1406, zip files are for compression AND archive
[13:54] <enriq> what is the problem with 11? rileyp? anyone?
[13:54] <julie> MIH1406, why would you want to avoid the compression?
[13:54] <MIH1406> yes a want the "store only" mode
[13:54] <epzil0n> lastk: have you tried to reinstall grub?
[13:54] <rileyp> lastk grub2 is awesome....
[13:55] <MIH1406> these files are already compressed and large files (.jpg files)
[13:55] <ubuntu__> hi
[13:55] <lastk> epzil0n rileyp : should I configure the windows manually? or I got a problem? because the menu.lst dont have the windows there
[13:55] <julie> MIH1406, large jpg files?
[13:55] <imadper> amit1: I found lots dict software, but I don't know is the one that in ubuntu 10.10.
[13:55] <ubuntu__> sa jacys normalni maniacy ktorzy mi doradza czy przeinstalowac system z xp na ubuntu 10.10?
[13:55] <rileyp> join #networking
[13:55] <julie> that made sense 20 years ago but not today
[13:56] <oCean> !pl | ubuntu__
[13:56] <MIH1406> julie, large number of scanned documents with 600 DPI
[13:56] <amit1> impader just install any1
[13:56] <epzil0n> lastk: grub2 doesn't use menu.lst in the "old" way so u can't edit it manually
[13:56] <imadper> amit1: ok...
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> MIH1406: maybe you can make an iso of the jpg-directory, using dd
[13:57] <lastk> epzil0n : hmm.. i'm checking the manual
[13:57] <amit1> imadper: goldendict seems nice
[13:57] <julie> MIH1406, using zip is the simplest solution no matter what if you don't want to use the shell
[13:57] <epzil0n> lastk: that's why you just have to run sudo update-grub to generate a new boot entry
[13:57] <jrib> MIH1406: file-roller allows you to add files to zip files
[13:58] <lastk> epzil0n : but about the other partition(windows) ?
[13:58] <imadper> amit1: I konw，but i just want the dict can stay in my task zone
[13:58] <MIH1406> jrib, who don't know this?
[13:58] <epzil0n> lastk: what is your hdd layout?
[13:58] <julie> MIH1406, the price to pay for compressing is probably very minimal (and so far I don't see why you said they were compressed)
[13:59] <amit1> imadper: sorry dont know if that function is available
[13:59] <lastk> epzil0n : http://pastie.org/2052012
[14:00] <jrib> MIH1406: if you don't want to bother with compression, I'd suggest just creating a .tar
[14:00] <imadper> amit1: thx all the same~
[14:00] <amit1> imadper: gotcha!! install artha
[14:00] <MIH1406> jrib, see, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG
[14:00] <imadper> amit1: THX! :D!
[14:00] <jrib> MIH1406: eh?
[14:00] <amit1> its offline so you dont need net connection and it miniizes as well
[14:00] <julie> MIH1406, everyone here knows what a JPG is
[14:00] <amit1> i had alreafy installed it
[14:00] <MIH1406> jrib, I will send to a user who has never seen this .tar files!
[14:01] <dr_willis> most window archiver tools can handle tar's
[14:01] <epzil0n> lastk: ok you have windows in a logic partition..
[14:01] <julie> then use a regular zip MIH1406
[14:01] <MIH1406> julie, do they also know they are compressed?
[14:01] <amit1> impader this dictionary artha is far better than others
[14:01] <dr_willis> tar's are not compreswed.. they are just archived.
[14:01] <epzil0n> lastk: windows usually needs to be in the first partition
[14:01] <julie> jpg is not a compressed file per se MIH1406, you would probably save a good amount of space
[14:02] <amit1> hii any1 used burg?? is it ready for general use??
[14:02] <epzil0n> lastk: i'm nor sure it will work if it's in a logic partition
[14:02] <lastk> oh no :(
[14:02] <MIH1406> julie, I am actually waiting the process to finish! :)
[14:02] <dr_willis> amit1,  ive not heard a lot of great things about it...
[14:02] <lastk> epzil0n : reinstalling the windows is enough?
[14:02] <epzil0n> lastk: did you install windows after ubuntu?
[14:02] <imadper> amit1: ok, i'm downloading it~
[14:02] <imadper> amit1: thx~
[14:02] <lastk> epzil0n : nope, ubuntu after
[14:02] <julie> MIH1406, FYI jpg is a more compressed image file format than BMP, but is still compressible
[14:02] <jrib> MIH1406: windows and os x have no issues opening a .tar
[14:03] <amit1> impader just type artha in software manager and install
[14:03] <amit1> have you install getdeb for latest apps
[14:03] <epzil0n> lastk: ok, i think you can reinstall windows and then log into ubuntu and run the sudo update-grub command
[14:03] <imadper> amit1: en, i used apt-get install
[14:03] <amit1> ok
[14:03] <jrib> and lossy compression isn't really the same thing as compression :/
[14:03] <amit1> thats ok
[14:03] <imadper> amit1: :D
[14:04] <amit1> you can use getdeb for latest programs
[14:04] <lastk> epzil0n : ohh mann I have some problems configurin the windows :(
[14:04] <lastk> epzil0n : ohh mann I have some problems configurin the windows :(
[14:04] <amit1> are you new to ubuntu?
[14:04] <imadper> amit1: from 8.04~
[14:04] <amit1> oh
[14:04] <epzil0n> lastk: yeah, windows can be a real pain in the ass :/
[14:04] <MIH1406> jrib, sure? I will try that.
[14:04] <amit1> you are older than me
[14:04] <lastk> epzil0n ; but ok, thank you for your help ;)
[14:04] <MIH1406> Goodbye, and thank you for answers
[14:04] <servulo> How do I install the latex
[14:04] <imadper> amit1: maybe, i just for emacs~
[14:04] <epzil0n> lastk: np and good luck ;)
[14:05] <jrib> MIH1406: on OS X it should "just work", on windows, all of the compression programs I've tried handle it fine
[14:05] <amit1> lastk: can you repeat your queston?
[14:05] <jrib> servulo: install one of the texlive meta-packages
[14:05] <MIH1406> julie, it is compressible but it is time consuming with large files :)
[14:05] <amit1> impader ok
[14:05] <MIH1406> julie, I am still waiting!!
[14:06] <lastk> amit1 : Im just trying install the grub and make the windows partition run too
[14:06] <amit1> any1 used burg ??
[14:06] <julie> MIH1406, go take a coffee
[14:06] <servulo>  jrib: thanks
[14:08] <MIH1406> julie, jrib thanks
[14:08] <julie> :)
[14:08] <jrib> could also probably learn the command line syntax during the compression time :)
[14:09] <julie> lol
[14:09] <julie> tar -cvf archive.tar *.jpg
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:09] <imadper> amit1: Hi~ "gnome-dictionary" is what I want~ Think u again~ :D
[14:09] <imadper> amit1: thank you again
[14:10] <jrib> julie: well he can use file-roller for the tar file but store-only zip is probably doable from the command line
[14:10]  * imadper if i ask how to learn English, will the op kick me out?
[14:10] <ikonia> imadper: no, but we'll tell you it's offtopic and not to ask
[14:10] <imadper> ik
[14:11] <imadper> ikonia: ok~ I won't~
[14:11] <BluesKaj> try unp , decompresses practically every type of compressed file out there
[14:11] <VOTProductions> Just a small usability tip: Use the maintainer's version of GRUB. It looks better.
[14:12] <ikonia> VOTProductions: maintainers version ?
[14:12] <VOTProductions> sudo update grub
[14:12] <ikonia> VOTProductions: what ?
[14:12] <VOTProductions> Then you get a choice.
[14:12] <ikonia> VOTProductions: what are you talking about
[14:12] <VOTProductions> Well...
[14:12] <VOTProductions> You know GRUB?
[14:12] <ikonia> VOTProductions: yes,
[14:13] <VOTProductions> Well, it looks ugly at a default install
[14:13] <ikonia> VOTProductions: ok, if you think so, it's just a boot menu that's diplsyed for 4 seconds
[14:13] <VOTProductions> So...
[14:14] <BluesKaj> some ppl are too visually oriented for their own good
[14:14] <ikonia> so what ?
[14:14] <ikonia> apologies, I'm not following what you're saying
[14:14] <yogi1> hai
[14:14] <VOTProductions> The maintainer's version is a bit better. Your native res, "Older Linux" for older Linux kernels, etc.
[14:14] <ikonia> VOTProductions: the mainterers version ?? what are you talking about
[14:14] <VOTProductions> I'll give you a picture.
[14:14] <ikonia> VOTProductions: what is the maintainers version
[14:15] <VOTProductions> Hang on.
[14:15] <ikonia> VOTProductions: please don't post a picture
[14:15] <ikonia> VOTProductions: I don't need a picture, what is the maintainers version ?
[14:15] <epzil0n> lastk: this is how i had my dualboot machine using ine hdd.. /dev/sda1 = windows /dev/sda2 = extended partiton where i put ubuntu, debian and kubuntu in logic partitons and that have always worked just fine
[14:15] <VOTProductions> Well, it's one of the choices of "sudo update-grub"
[14:16] <MIH1406> Hi, I am traveling to US. Is it legal to use a proprietary (non-free) program. (eg: unrar, mscorefonts, ubuntu-restricted-extras, ubuntu-restricted-addons)
[14:16] <lastk> epzil0n : I think I'll try configure the file manually to start windows too, and see if it works
[14:16] <VOTProductions> I don't know why it is there, but its a bit better.
[14:16] <ikonia> VOTProductions: update-grub just updates the menu list with new kernels
[14:16] <VOTProductions> Odd...
[14:16] <VOTProductions> MIHI1406:Yes.
[14:16] <li_> ubuntu is old
[14:17] <imadper> MIH1406: that
[14:17] <imadper> MIH1406: that's bad
[14:17] <MIH1406> but I did not bought any license for them, I just installed them using official ubuntu repos
[14:17] <MIH1406> imadper, what?
[14:17] <li_> what is ubuntu
[14:17] <imadper> MIH1406: come to China, you can use any software with pay
[14:17] <VOTProductions> Actually...
[14:17] <VOTProductions> It's Grub-pc.
[14:17] <llutz_> MIH1406: you don't have to buy a license to use unrar-nonfree
[14:17] <imadper> MIH1406: come to China, you can use any software without pay
[14:17] <li_> i have no money ,for soft
[14:18] <MIH1406> I knew that already!!
[14:18] <VOTProductions> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1419345
[14:18] <MIH1406> imadper, I knew that already!!
[14:18] <li_> so i love the free soft
[14:18] <oCean> li_ do you have a support question?
[14:18] <epzil0n> lastk: ok, but it's not easy if possible to configure the new grub files, because menu.lst is not present anymore
[14:18] <ceza> my Apache Not runing after up date
[14:18] <imadper> li_: in China, no one pay for software...
[14:18] <MIH1406> oCean, :)
[14:18] <VOTProductions> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1419345
[14:18] <lastk> epzil0n : seriously? oh damm
[14:19] <epzil0n> lastk: yeah
[14:19] <ikonia> VOTProductions: that is the default version of grub in ubuntu
[14:19] <lastk> epzil0n : ahh I just dont find the windows on menu.lst
[14:19] <lastk> so I'll try reboot the machine
[14:19] <VOTProductions> It wasn't for me.
[14:19] <alvinPH> Monkeydust: hey dude, how can i submit a bug report here in launchpad?
[14:19] <VOTProductions> I guess it's new to Ubuntu 11.04
[14:19] <ikonia> VOTProductions: no
[14:19] <oCean> ikonia: I think the dropdown there let's you choose 'the maintainers version' - never understood what it meant
[14:20] <chn> hello, i'm having problems with flash, some color blocks appear and the image is not displayed correctly
[14:20] <epzil0n> lastk: there is a good site for grub2 modifications.. i'll check for it
[14:20] <grmrgecko> julie: Here is the full error. Configuring grub-pc unable to install grub in /dev/sda executing grub-install /dev/sda failded.
[14:20] <oCean> !bugs | alvinPH
[14:21] <julie> grmrgecko, that's it?
[14:21] <grmrgecko> yeah
[14:21] <julie> gees, what an explicit error
[14:21] <llutz_> epzil0n: you can modify grubs menu by editing /etc/default/grub or the stuff from /etc/grub.d and running update-grub then
[14:21] <julie> grmrgecko, and what does lilo give you?
[14:21] <grmrgecko> Lilo seems to install after I disable that one thing
[14:21] <julie> I always prefered lilo for its simplicity
[14:22] <VOTProductions> ikonia: It's odd...
[14:22] <dr_willis> lilo is getting very obsolete in many ways
[14:22] <VOTProductions> Another tip then.
[14:22] <grmrgecko> julie: Does lilo work with booting windows?
[14:22] <julie> of course
[14:22] <oCean> VOTProductions: we don't really need tips here
[14:22] <BluesKaj> MIH1406, is ubuntu your primary OS and do you dual boot with windows?
[14:22] <oCean> VOTProductions: stick to supporting others, trying to resolve their issues
[14:22] <julie> grmrgecko, it is included in the default config
[14:22] <ikonia> VOTProductions: tips are only useful if a.) people are having a problem b.) you actually know/understand the advice your offering
[14:23] <VOTProductions> oCean: No-one wants my help.
[14:23] <MIH1406> BluesKaj, yes!
[14:23] <epzil0n> llutz_: ok, but i know that it doesn't work like it use to and usually there is no point in editing it since you just have to run sudo update-grub and it will most of the time find all other OS
[14:23] <llutz_> epzil0n: theres 40_custom.conf
[14:23] <MIH1406> BluesKaj, ???
[14:23] <VOTProductions> So... anyone wants help?
[14:23] <grmrgecko> alert! /dev/sdb6 does not exist. dropping to shell!
[14:23] <Rafael_-> epzil0n : :( I dont get even the ubuntu message, he started without the grub
[14:24] <chn> yeah me
[14:24] <grmrgecko> any fix for that?
[14:24] <ikonia> VOTProductions: people are asking for help in the channel - follow the quesitons and contribute if you can
[14:24] <VOTProductions> chn: What is your problem?
[14:24] <chn> VOTProductions, im having problems with flash
[14:24] <VOTProductions> chn: Does it run?
[14:25] <epzil0n> lastk: why do you have 2 logic partitions?
[14:25] <chn> VOTProductions, yeah but it display some blocks over the image
[14:25] <BluesKaj> MIH1406, then they(customs) probly won't understand grub , if they check your laptop , my knowledge of US customs has software that looks for illegal apps in windows and mac
[14:25] <julie> grmrgecko, where did you get that?  booting?
[14:26] <grmrgecko> sda6 is there
[14:26] <julie> but you mentioned sdb6
[14:26] <BluesKaj> if they decide to check your laptop , MIH1406 , they most likely will not
[14:26] <imadper> chn: could your graphic card dirver work?
[14:26] <chn> VOTProductions, for example, in youtube, the play icon and the bar under the video is displayed as a white block
[14:26] <MIH1406> BluesKaj, then I will make to boot Ubuntu automatically.
[14:26] <grmrgecko> julie: I think it's confused
[14:27] <grmrgecko> how can I change it to sda?
[14:27] <grmrgecko> from sdb
[14:27] <grmrgecko> in lilo
[14:27] <chn> imadper, i think its working, im using the one from nvidia (i have a geforce)
[14:27] <BluesKaj> MIH1406, :)
[14:27] <epzil0n> Rafael_-: ok, i didn't see what he talked about before..
[14:27] <imadper> chn: you used adobe's flash or gnash?
[14:27] <Rafael_-> epzil0n : I'm the lastk
[14:27] <chn> imadper, adobe's
[14:27] <dr_willis> i forget how lilo even names hard drives.. sda = hd0  sdb = hd1  or is that grub naming?
[14:28] <epzil0n> Rafael_-: hehe. ok
[14:28] <llutz_> dr_willis: thats grub
[14:28] <alvinPH> ok thank you dudes
[14:28] <julie> grmrgecko, give me your lilo.conf on pastebin please
[14:29] <sophia23> Hi, can anyone help me pls with empty info.php issue?
[14:29] <imadper> chn: all flash have program or only youtube? i can't visit youtube because i'm in China
[14:29] <grmrgecko> julie: how?
[14:29] <grmrgecko> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197956
[14:30] <wsagent> hi can anybody help me out to install burg boot loader in ubuntu 10.10
[14:30] <chn> imadper, i think its any page, nba.com... can't i think of others right now
[14:30] <VOTProductions> My connection went down.
[14:30] <julie> !pastebin
[14:30] <grmrgecko> julie: I mean how do I get to it
[14:30] <grmrgecko> lol
[14:30] <grmrgecko> I know how to pastebin
[14:30] <VOTProductions> chn: Try http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[14:30] <BluesKaj> imadper, try html5 ..you can watch youtube without flash if you use chromium browser
[14:31] <julie> grmrgecko, ok, check your lilo.conf to see if it contains any reference to sdb and change it to sda
[14:31] <grmrgecko> julie: Where is it:P
[14:31] <grmrgecko> I checked /etc
[14:31] <VOTProductions> BluesKaj: Google Chrome has flash built in.
[14:31] <julie> grmrgecko, /etc/lilo.conf
[14:31] <grmrgecko> it's not there
[14:31] <wsagent> hi can anybody help me out to install burg boot loader in ubuntu 10.10
[14:31] <grmrgecko> this is in the console of lilo
[14:31] <imadper> BluesKaj: I'm in china, the goverment stopped people visiting youtube
[14:32] <grmrgecko> do I have to go into the console of ubuntu minimal?
[14:32] <VOTProductions> chn: So...  is it blocky at the adobe page?
[14:32] <chn> VOTProductions, it displays properly
[14:32] <BluesKaj> VOTProductions, not if he elects to use html5
[14:32] <julie> grmrgecko, yes do that
[14:32] <VOTProductions> BluesKay: Okay..
[14:32] <imadper> chn: maybe you can update your flash player. I can't help you, sorry~
[14:32] <wsagent> iMadper You need to have a proxy client installed like Hospot
[14:32] <chn> imadper, ok thanks nevermind!
[14:32] <BluesKaj> imadper, proxy ?
[14:33] <epzil0n> lastk: when i had windows i always put it in /dev/sda1 and then because i had several linux OS i made /dev/sda2 as an extended partition and inside that i made 7 logic partitions cos i had 3 linux OS with one shared swap partition and that layout was never a problem
[14:33] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, i thought chromium used an inbuilt flash plugin
[14:33] <VOTProductions> chn: What browser do you have?
[14:33] <julie> grmrgecko, I'm not sure I would have followed this approach if I had known that you didn't even have a lilo.conf file...  why did you say it wasn't working if it was simply not configured^
[14:33] <rinkukokiri> or maybe that was chrome...
[14:33] <imadper> wsagent BluesKaj  thx，but this online proxy is stopped by goverment also。。。
[14:33] <chn> VOTProductions, firefox 4.0.1
[14:33] <BluesKaj> rinkukokiri, of course but if you elect to use html5 , flash won't be needed
[14:34] <imadper> blu
[14:34] <BluesKaj> !HTML5
[14:34] <BluesKaj> !info HTML5
[14:34] <grmrgecko> I'll be back later
[14:35] <wsagent> imadper :then find some IP hiding or changing software to change your IP to another region
[14:35] <grmrgecko> I can figure it out if it's in the console
[14:35] <epzil0n> lastk: i remember from somewhere that windows will not be bootable if it's somewhere else then in the first primary partition.. so if i was in your shoes i would reinstall everything and make that hdd layout that i suggested.. but that's me
[14:35] <VOTProductions> chn: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. Use "APT" version.
[14:35] <imadper> BluesKaj: i have a ssh host in cjb.net, but it can't login also. The goverment stop people to visit youtube/facebook/twitter anyway
[14:35] <VOTProductions> chn: Never mind...
[14:35] <chn> VOTProductions, haha ok
[14:36] <julie> grmrgecko, start with /etc/lilo.conf.example
[14:36] <oCean> chn: you used flashplugin-installer from repo?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> imadper, I guess because of all the unrest in the middle east , the gov't is afraid of it happening again
[14:36] <chn> VOTProductions, ok thanks for your time, i got to go
[14:36] <VOTProductions> Bye.
[14:36] <VOTProductions> chn: Do you have the restricted extras?
[14:36] <VOTProductions> chn: If not, install them.
[14:36] <imadper> BluesKaj: you r right~
[14:37] <chn> oCean, i tried both, from web and from synaptic
[14:37] <chn> VOTProductions, ok i will try that
[14:37] <chn> bye
[14:37] <epzil0n> lastk: maybe you also should have one partiton with NTFS filesystem for shared files and i would not make that one a logic partition
[14:38] <Garfio> a
[14:38] <VOTProductions> So...
[14:38] <Garfio> alguien de almeria?
[14:38] <oCean> !es | Garfio
[14:39] <imadper> wsagent: but i need a host provide this service, and the goverment have stopped all the hosts who can provide this service
[14:39] <wsagent> then you should talk to your goverment for that... just kidding
[14:40] <vince> 0364
[14:40] <djpatrio> exit
[14:40] <julie> imadper, if your governement says you can't, maybe you really shouldn't unless you're part of a resistance group
[14:40] <imadper> wsagent: anyone who want to talk to gov will die    I am serious
[14:41] <bazhang> !ot
[14:41] <oCean> imadper: wsagent julie, let's get back on topic, ok?
[14:41] <imadper> oCean: sorry~
[14:41] <wsagent> imadper :anyway i am facing the same issue here in UAE they also blocked a lots of sites but i am using CJB.net that they didn't block yet
[14:41] <julie> oCean, I haven't seen a single on-topic comment from you and the channel is almost dead
[14:42] <oCean> julie: that's not any reason to start offtopic talk now
[14:42] <bazhang> julie, this is ubuntu support only. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic , slow or not
[14:43] <joshwa> goverment is stupid
[14:43] <julie> sure, I was just answering him a single sentence and just come here to help out so screw you... bye
[14:44] <wsagent> hi can anybody help me out to install burg boot loader in ubuntu 10.10
[14:45] <wsagent> hi can anybody help me out to install burg boot loader in ubuntu 10.10
[14:46] <wsagent> is there anybody here in this channel ?
[14:46] <bazhang> wsagent, use grub2 , burg is not supported here
[14:46] <VOTProductions> Yes.
[14:46] <joshwa> ya there is somebody.
[14:46] <bazhang> !grub2 | wsagent
[14:47] <jtreminio> hello all - how do I reset ubuntu's gnome/unity to the initial default?
[14:47] <wsagent> thanks bazhang, ubottu
[14:48] <VOTProductions> jtreminio: What do you mean by default?
[14:49] <epzil0n> wsagent: are you going to decorate grub or what?
[14:49] <jtreminio> I installed and uninstalled Macbuntu package. On uninstall it removed the universal menubar as well
[14:49] <jtreminio> the global bar
[14:49] <jtreminio> Sorry, forgot to address. VOTProductions: I installed and uninstalled Macbuntu package. On uninstall it removed the universal menubar as well
[14:50] <VOTProductions> jtreminio: Ahh...
[14:50] <c0mrade316> QUESTION: want to move the window buttons from top right corner to top left corner in ubuntu.. (it would be on top left corner by default but i have installed a theme and it changed it to top right corner. i want the same theme but jus window buttons must be moved..)
[14:50] <VOTProductions> jterminio: So... the left hand side bar is still there?
[14:51] <jtreminio> VOTProductions: yep!
[14:51] <VOTProductions> Ok... you probably don't have a package installed.
[14:52] <jtreminio> VOTProductions: is it indicator app menu? I can't right-click on the top bar to add things to the panel like in previous versions.
[14:52] <VOTProductions> jterminio: That is normally.
[14:52] <VOTProductions> normal*
[14:53] <VOTProductions> indicator-applet-appmenu?
[14:53] <VOTProductions> jtreminio: sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-appmenu
[14:54] <jtreminio> thanks, looks like it needs a log off/on. I'll try it now. Thanks again VOTProductions
[14:54] <VOTProductions> jtreminio: What do you get when you do my command?
[14:55] <jtreminio> thanks VOTProductions, seems to have worked :)
[14:55] <VOTProductions> Your welcome.
[14:56] <VOTProductions> I'll file a bug report in Macubuntu package.
[14:59] <VOTProductions> Anyone need help out of the whole let of join/left?
[14:59] <VOTProductions> let = lot.
[14:59] <oCean> VOTProductions: no need to ask that
[14:59] <dr_willis> !controls
[14:59] <lastk> epzil0n : ok, sorry i was out..
[15:00] <HelloWorld321> I've got a problem with Samba shares on an Ubuntu system.  The Ubuntu system can see the other computers.  The other systems can see the Ubuntu system on the network, but can't browse it's shares.  The Ubuntu system CAN browse its own Samba shares at smb://127.0.0.1/ but CANNOT browse its own Samba shares at smb://localhost/ ... anybody got any tips or tests to try?
[15:00] <_aegis_> can you post your smb.conf?
[15:00] <_aegis_> pastebin
[15:00] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321, somthis is very weird.. localhost is 127.0.0.1   try  the actual machines ip# -
[15:00] <VOTProductions> HelloWorld321: What is the other machine's OSes?
[15:00] <theadmin> HelloWorld321: Check /etc/hosts too, make sure "127.0.0.1 localhost" is there
[15:01] <HelloWorld321> _aegis_: I've never done that .... gimme a minute ...
[15:01] <HelloWorld321> VOTProductions: Windows 7
[15:01] <VOTProductions> Ah.
[15:01] <HelloWorld321> theadmin: yes, it is, I'll post that too
[15:01] <dr_willis> Samba and window shareing juzst seems to get harder/more problematic with each relase of windows. I have several windows box's that never see each other on the network. but if i enter the name/ip buy hand they do work. same for my linux machines on the network. Some times they show up. some times they dont. but they do work.
[15:01] <Benz> hey.. anyone here who can help me with a question about chromium? :)
[15:01] <lastk> epzil0n : but, the strange is the grub is not loading... I should see only the linux options there, right?
[15:02] <dr_willis> Benz,  state the queztion and see
[15:03] <Benz> what font is used in chromium? :)
[15:03] <_aegis_> I've been using the exact same ubuntu smb.conf for six or seven years on my fileserver without problems :)
[15:03] <VOTProductions> Benz: The one you choose.
[15:03] <epzil0n> lastk: yeah, try hitting esc-key at boot..
[15:03] <theadmin> epzil0n: It's left-shift, not esc
[15:03] <theadmin> lastk: ^
[15:04] <dr_willis> I have to wonder why they dotn set up grub where ANYKEY shows the menu..
[15:04] <epzil0n> theadmin: ok, thx
[15:04] <VOTProductions> Benz: The system one. I think.
[15:04] <Benz> VOTProductions: the problem is, that I didn't choose anyone... :/ but where can I check it?
[15:04] <VOTProductions> What is your DE? (Desktop Environment)
[15:05] <VOTProductions> I'm guessing Unity with GNOME?
[15:05] <Benz> im new... so the what? :P
[15:05] <VOTProductions> Never mind.
[15:05] <VOTProductions> So...
[15:05] <HelloWorld321> hosts: http://pastebin.com/t3jn9dcY
[15:05] <craigbass1976> I can't get my new monitor to work right.  I'm only getting 1368x768, and I should be able to get 1440x900.  I'm running LXDE.  The max resolution my preferences --> monitor settings gives me is the 1368x768.  I've done a sudo dpkg reconfigure x-server.org, messed with xrandr, but neither worked.  I've also edited xorg.conf, but the file was a bit sparse to begin with so I'm wondering if that's not the preferred method anymore.
[15:05] <VOTProductions> Right click on Desktop.
[15:05] <VOTProductions> Change Desktop Background.
[15:05] <VOTProductions> Fonts tab.
[15:06] <theadmin> craigbass1976: No, xorg.conf is hardly ever used anymore, however is still an option
[15:06] <VOTProductions> craigbass1976: LXDE isn't supported.
[15:06] <_aegis_> the resolution is xorg's fault though
[15:06] <dr_willis> craigbass1976,  whats your video chipset?
[15:06] <bazhang> VOTProductions, sure it is
[15:06] <HelloWorld321> smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/xB1P4exG
[15:07] <theadmin> VOTProductions: Well as long as it's Ubuntu we can support it
[15:07] <Benz> SO NICE!!! Thank you!
[15:07] <VOTProductions> theadmin: OK...
[15:07] <dr_willis> Lubuntu is not quiet 'officially supported'  is it? but if you install lxde on ubuntu.. :)
[15:08] <theadmin> dr_willis: Not like it makes much difference
[15:08] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[15:09] <craigbass1976> VOTProductions, what do you mean isn't supported?
[15:09] <ikonia> craigbass1976: it is - VOTProductions is wrong
[15:09] <VOTProductions> craigbass1976: The ultimate goal of the lubuntu project is to earn official endorsement from Canonical.
[15:09] <thevishy> i installed mplayer-gui but cant see the binary for that ,how do I find it? gmplayer is the known binary file but its showing as command not found
[15:09] <VOTProductions> I'll be back.
[15:10] <dr_willis> craigbass1976,  you did install the nvidia drivers? using that addational-drivers tool, or 'jockey-gtk' ?
[15:10] <ikonia> VOTProductions: please check your private messages I need to speak to you
[15:10] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: the actual IP fails ...  Could not display "smb://nn.nnn.n.nn/".
[15:10] <bazhang> craigbass1976, it is supported, ignore VOTProductions
[15:10] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, I think I did back when I installed lucid in the first place.  It was (if I remember right) one of those proprietary drivers you have the option of using
[15:11] <craigbass1976> ikonia, bazhang, I thought it was.  Starting at Lucid, yes?
[15:11] <dr_willis> craigbass1976,  reinsatll them,. it could be they are some how broken, or dident upgrade
[15:11] <slashdot> why cant i stand by in ubuntu like i could on xp
[15:12] <liminal> hello
[15:12] <thevishy> i installed mplayer-gui but cant see the binary for that ,how do I find it? gmplayer is the known binary file but its showing as command not found
[15:12] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  like --> smb://192.168.1.116         Odd..  see if you can ping the machines ip#
[15:12] <slashdot> in suspend the fans are still running
[15:12] <thevishy> slashdot, what do you mean by tht
[15:12] <slashdot> its like just loging out
[15:12] <liminal> does anyone know how to setup multimonitors on unity?
[15:12] <dr_willis> 'standby/hibernate' you mean
[15:13] <slashdot> but in hibernate it shuts down completely right?
[15:13] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: ping localhost ok;  ping 127.0.0.1 ok; ping ip ok
[15:13] <BlouBlou> slashdot: Right
[15:13] <chrege> i can't run java programs in anjuta
[15:14] <slashdot> i guess i will just have to live with the boot time
[15:14] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  i would have to guess theres some firewall, or similer blocking the samba access. see if you can ssh to the box. see if findsmb, or smbtree sees the shares
[15:15] <HelloWorld321> _aegis_: I posted smb.conf to http://pastebin.com/xB1P4exG ... is there anything screwy in there?
[15:16] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: where would the firewall be?  would it have to be on the ubuntu box itself?
[15:16] <_aegis_> which share is giving you problems?
[15:16] <_aegis_> and what problems exactly?
[15:16] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  theres no defauilt firewall rules on ubuntu
[15:17] <mrdeb> when is kernel 39 going to be in ubuntu
[15:17] <antivirtel> Hi! http://paste2.org/p/1464348 ... the baned IP 84.x.y.z can still access the server... but if I place a DROP all rule to INPUT, it works... - what may cause the problem?
[15:17] <HelloWorld321> _aegis_:  All the shares.  The Ubuntu system can see the other computers.  The other systems can see the Ubuntu system on the network, but can't browse it's shares.  The Ubuntu system CAN browse its own Samba shares at smb://127.0.0.1/ but CANNOT browse its own Samba shares at smb://localhost/
[15:17] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: findsmb did find itself
[15:17] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  and how about the smb://ip.of.the.linux.box      localhost SHOULD be the same as 127.0.0.1 - Unless the hosts file is saying otherwise.
[15:18] <dr_willis> i rember why i tend to use winscp and ssh these days :)
[15:19] <edbian> Yesterday I helped a friend of mine install linux on their personal computer.  Ubuntu worked FLAWLESSLY.  It was an asus eee (even the wifi worked out of the box!)  Is there a place I can post my story?  Ordinarily I'd say something to managment. Who in Ubuntu is 'Management'?
[15:19] <_aegis_> HelloWorld321: smb might be caching by the exact hostname you've provided. does smb:// issue to localhost persist across reboot?
[15:19] <bazhang> edbian, ubuntuforums testimonials perhaps
[15:20] <VOTProductions> Back...
[15:20] <edbian> bazhang: thanks
[15:21] <msmoketd> waa im getting spammed from my box via a script of some sort yet I cant find the script :(
[15:21] <VOTProductions> Sorry...
[15:21] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: smbtree had a problem.  It said "NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED"  (http://pastebin.com/7RhW8QfG)
[15:21] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  thats normal. when its scanning the network
[15:22] <msmoketd> how do you blacklist a sender in qmail?
[15:22] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: smb://ip.of.the.box fails with "Could not display smb://ip.of.the.box"
[15:23] <HelloWorld321> _aegis_: yes it persists.  I set it up once.  It worked just fine.  Then I rebooted.  And it hasn't worked since.  :P
[15:23] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  you did make a share?  just right click on a folder, share it. allow all and guest access as a test.
[15:24] <liminal> reg
[15:24] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: Yes, I have shares on it.  Maybe my problem is permissions.  I'll take a peek at that.
[15:24] <liminal> register
[15:24] <liminal> how do i register my nick?
[15:24] <liminal> doh
[15:25] <larsDK> Netgear Stora NAS: why must I be root to create directory (sudo mkdir)?
[15:25] <theadmin> liminal: /msg nickserv help register
[15:25] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: the permissions of none of the shares nor none of the files comes back "The permissions of .... could not be determined"
[15:26] <VOTProductions> I'm sorry for my mistake.
[15:26] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  thats getting weirder.. just check the permissions of a normal file? one thats not shared.. could be theres some filesystem curruption
[15:27] <HelloWorld321> o! o! o! o! o! o!  k, maybe that's something to do with it.
[15:28] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  Things really sound weird to me. It may be time to start checking iout the whole system
[15:28] <dr_willis> dosent hurt to boot a live cd and fsck the filesystems in any case. :)
[15:28] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: here's the thing ... I did an Ubuntu install on top of a Windows machine.  It didn't reformat the hard drive.  It kept the data.  And all my data is on the NTFS partition.   That's something, isn't it?
[15:29] <HelloWorld321> All my SMB shares are on the old NTFS partition
[15:30] <compdoc> you formatted the partition as ntfs and share it using samba?
[15:30] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  i would have to say (nicely as i can) you are confused. You dont install to a NTFS..    you can share ntfs via samba. but you need to mount them with the proper permissions from fstab. Ive had major issues with trying to share them when they automount and use the gvfs stuff. :)
[15:30] <dr_willis> But perhaps i am missunderstanding somthing. :)
[15:30] <edbian> wubi
[15:31] <bazhang> HelloWorld321, wubi install?
[15:31] <edbian> dr_willis: HelloWorld321 wubi
[15:31] <HelloWorld321> WUBI.  Ye, that's what I mean.  It was a Wubi install
[15:31]  * dr_willis covers his ears at the mention of WUBI.
[15:31] <dr_willis> :)
[15:31] <edbian> There is even an option on the live CD, after you've booted it, that says 'install inside windows' which presumably does a wubi install
[15:32] <dr_willis> cant say ive seen  that when you boot the live cd.. if you put it into a box thats running windowas. it pops up a dialog.
[15:32] <HelloWorld321> Is Wubi my problem?
[15:32] <theadmin> HelloWorld321: WUBI is everyone's problem
[15:32] <dr_willis> theadmin,  :) i was being nice and trying to not type somthing like that.. heh
[15:32] <edbian> dr_willis: yes.  If you put it in the box while windows is running it prompts for wubi.  But if you boot the live CD and start the installer, one of the partitioning choices is 'install inside windows'  I just did it last night.
[15:33] <HelloWorld321> And edbian didn't have any trouble at all.
[15:33] <edbian> HelloWorld321: What is the issue exactly?
[15:33] <edbian> I didn't choose wubi
[15:33] <edbian> I just saw it there
[15:33] <edbian> I didn't liked it there.  Rather misleading in my opinion
[15:34] <edbian> What's the issue exactly?
[15:35] <HelloWorld321> edbian: My problem is Wubi, and the issue is Samba shares.  Ubuntu can't authenticate to the other Windows 7 systems, and the Windows 7 systems can't browse Ubuntu.  Meanwhile, some folks suggesting network issues had me check that I CAN connect to smb://127.0.0.1/ but I CANNOT connect to smb://localhost/ NOR to smb://ip.of.the.box/
[15:35] <VOTProductions> !samba
[15:35] <VOTProductions> I hope that will help you.
[15:36] <dr_willis> and all 3 of those should work identically,.,. so theres some sort of networking, or deeper issue going on.
[15:36] <edbian> HelloWorld321: If you want to share files between Ubuntu and Windows there is a much easier solution.  Ubuntu can mount NTFS shares natively and in windows all you have to do is install an ext4 driver.  http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/   Setting up a samba server is hard.
[15:37] <scorchgeek> ok, stupid question: I have a flash drive containing a bootable Ubuntu partition, and I cannot figure out for the life of me how to erase this partition and restore the drive to a single 8GB FAT32 partition...I tried GParted, and it won't unmount the partition so I can't do anything with it, and if I eject it from Nautilus it ejects all parts of the drive so I can't modify it anymore.
[15:37] <VOTProductions> edbian: I think he wants more than one PC to share files to.
[15:37] <TuxOtaku> does anyone here use IDJC?
[15:37] <HelloWorld321> VOTProductions, edbian: that's correect
[15:37] <theadmin> scorchgeek: Use another OS or a livecd to format it
[15:37] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  you could also just install ssh, on linux and use winscp on the windows box's and get files back/forth that way
[15:37] <edbian> scorchgeek: You need to unmount
[15:37] <VOTProductions> scorchgeek: Try deleting all files.
[15:37] <edbian> HelloWorld321: You have a  networking problem.  What happens if you ping 'localhost'  ?
[15:37] <scorchgeek> Nautilus won't let me delete all the files. How do I unmount it? If I select "unmount" in GParted it works for a little while and then does nothing.
[15:38] <edbian> scorchgeek: You can still edit using gparted if it's unmounted (you have to edit when it's unmounted)
[15:38] <HelloWorld321> edbian: ping localhost ok;  ping 127.0.0.1 ok; ping ip ok
[15:38] <dr_willis> scorchgeek,  you could use 'fdisk' and delete the partitins. it wont care if its mouinted or not.
[15:38] <dr_willis> scorchgeek,  be carefull with fdisk
[15:38] <VOTProductions> Unmount it in Gparted and then format it.
[15:38] <scorchgeek> VOTProductions: as I said, I attempted that and it wouldn't do it
[15:38] <edbian> HelloWorld321: My only suggestion is to follow a comprhensive guide.  Like this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[15:39] <dr_willis> close out all apps accessing it. and unmount it via the command line then rerun gparted. should work also.
[15:39] <scorchgeek> dr_willis: aha, thanks, umount worked. For some reason the built-in unmount command was doing nothing.
[15:39] <VOTProductions> sudo umount <device-name>
[15:40] <VOTProductions> Make sure to format it to FAT32.
[15:40] <scorchgeek> yeah, I'll just delete the second partition and extend the first since that one was fine.
[15:40] <HelloWorld321> This also wouldn't be the first time I've heard somebody slam my Wubi install.  I suppose I should try to do Ubuntu right.
[15:41] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  or just run it in virtualbox
[15:41] <dr_willis> scorchgeek,  if you want to keep that data on the first.. thats the way to go.
[15:41] <cloud9> hello
[15:41] <VOTProductions> HelloWorld321: Wubi isn't bad. It's only that it is slower (although you can't notice a difference on newer PCs) and if Windows corrupts Ubuntu corrupts too.
[15:42] <VOTProductions> And you miss out on GRUB and other goodies.
[15:42] <dr_willis> and when wubi breaks.. theres seems to be very little support for it.
[15:42] <dr_willis> and it does seem to break often. well it could be i see that here.. bcaeuse this is where people come to get wubi help :)
[15:42] <theadmin> Well WUBI is just a way to dig around in a Ubuntu install for a few days, it's not for serious usage
[15:43] <VOTProductions> Wubi uses your existing NTFS. Real Ubuntu uses ext4.
[15:43] <Chotaz> is I want to run something every 5 minutes, is this the apropriatte crontab line? : */5 * * * * <command>
[15:43] <theadmin> VOTProductions: False. WUBI creates a virtual ext3 hard drive, if I recall right
[15:43] <dr_willis> wubi uses a FILE that is looped backmounted and is using ext4  (or was it ext3) but the file is on a ntfs.
[15:44] <VOTProductions> theadmin: Yes. A ext3 on NTFS.
[15:44] <theadmin> Chotaz: Yes
[15:44] <Chotaz> theadmin, thanks
[15:45] <VOTProductions> "Why would you want to run a crippled Ubuntu instance with Wubi? You would have Ubuntu running on the Windows file system, not the best choice."
[15:45] <larsDK> How can I mkdir on a network drive without being su (sudo mkdir)?
[15:45] <VOTProductions> "If you get a kernel update in wubi it can kill both systems and it is quite unstable. "
[15:46] <theadmin> larsDK: You probably need to set uid or gid in fstab
[15:46] <edbian> VOTProductions: who are you quoting?
[15:46] <VOTProductions> Various forum posts.
[15:46] <mordof> ok, so i've had dual monitor running on TwinView for the longest time - but i'm in a situation where I can use 3 monitors.. I have an onboard vga card that i'd like to use to extend my desktop, is that possible?
[15:46] <OerHeks> VOTProductions, why would you be so negativ, pls don't.
[15:46] <VOTProductions> Ok...
[15:46] <VOTProductions> larrsDK: You mean sudo?
[15:46] <dr_willis> mordof,  ive seen it done. and done it ages ago.. but it was a little flakey.
[15:46] <larsDK> theadmin: I tried doing that in fstab (501 and 500 respectively) but it does not seem to work.
[15:46] <theadmin> VOTProductions: Use the Tab key to avoid misspelling names
[15:47] <dr_willis> mordof,  what chipset is the onboard?
[15:47] <mordof> dr_willis: not sure even
[15:47] <VOTProductions> theadmin: Thanks for the tip.
[15:47] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to get wlan-ng to work on ubuntu
[15:47] <mordof> dr_willis: i don't know where to start.. it's an AMD 880G something
[15:47] <VOTProductions> perlsyntax: What kind of wireless card is it?
[15:47] <mordof> dr_willis: Ah, HD 4250
[15:47] <mordof> dr_willis:  great -.-; not compatinble with twinview
[15:47] <dr_willis> mordof,  i did it once.. when the onboard and my  extra video card. both used the same driver..  (nvidia , same version) - but if they use/need differnt versions/drivers.. it can be  much harder. perhaps impossible.
[15:47] <VOTProductions> Yo yo.
[15:48] <dr_willis> mordof,  combining an ATI and NVIDIA = not sure if thats doable..
[15:48] <mordof> dr_willis: ;_;
[15:48] <dr_willis> mordof,  now and Intel and nvidia - perhaps.
[15:48] <mrdeb> hi VOTProductions
[15:48] <mordof> dr_willis: it's so easy on windows >.<; some things still jsut plain suck
[15:48] <VOTProductions> Hi mrdeb...
[15:48] <dr_willis> mordof,  driver/hw makers never want to do things the same way.
[15:49] <dr_willis> mordof,  ive have heard that 11.04/unity has some big issues with MultiMonitor support also.
[15:49] <mordof> dr_willis: ah. twinview has been working great at least
[15:49] <VOTProductions> mordof: Try the linux-nonfree-firmware drivers.
[15:49] <mordof> i first need to determine if the hardware is even on
[15:49] <larsDK> theadmin: strangely it is possible from the GUI (= File Browser) to create directories without sudo
[15:49] <mordof> i'm not sure that my BIOS turned it on
[15:49] <theadmin> larsDK: Okay now, that's awkward
[15:49] <VOTProductions> Is it a USB device?
[15:50] <ingm> hi can anyone help with wireless
[15:50] <mordof> VOTProductions: me?
[15:50] <VOTProductions> Yes.
[15:50] <mordof> VOTProductions: .... multi-monitor
[15:50] <mordof> VOTProductions: no
[15:50] <ingm> 11.04 can connect with cable but not wireless
[15:50] <VOTProductions> ingm: of course.
[15:50] <VOTProductions> So...
[15:50] <ingm> managed to get mic working on my own lol
[15:51] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[15:51] <VOTProductions> ingm: Try the linux-nonfree-drivers.
[15:51] <theadmin> Welcome, Emmanuel_Chanel
[15:51] <yu> hahha
[15:51] <ingm> oh sorry am new
[15:51] <larsDK> theadmin: the device is a Netgear Stora NAS and all directories gets created with user=501 and group=500.
[15:51] <VOTProductions> Hi Emmanuel_Chanel
[15:51] <yu> first time
[15:51] <VOTProductions> ingm: You know the terminal?
[15:51] <ingm> yes
[15:51] <mordof> dr_willis: any chance you would know how to check if the bios has enabled my onboard first off?
[15:51] <theadmin> larsDK: Alright, wait, who the heck is 501? Ubuntu starts user numbering with 1000 (user created on install)
[15:51] <VOTProductions> ingm: Open it
[15:52] <mordof> dr_willis: i'm not seeing it in any of the monitor/driver settings, but that's fairly understandable if it's not installed or recognized
[15:52] <ingm> ok
[15:52] <larsDK> theadmin: Netgear Stora NAS is running some version of Linux...
[15:52] <yu> China?
[15:52] <VOTProductions> ingm: Actually...
[15:52] <dr_willis> mordof,  lspci command.
[15:52] <ingm> ?
[15:52] <VOTProductions> ingm: Please wait.
[15:52] <ingm> k
[15:53] <mordof> dr_willis: no VGA aside from the GeForce i have ;_;
[15:53] <yu>  I' m Chinese
[15:53] <mordof> dr_willis: i take it that means the BIOS didn't enable it?
[15:53] <dr_willis> mordof,  proberly not.
[15:53] <mordof> kk, time to go try again~
[15:53] <mordof> brb
[15:54] <theadmin> !cn | yu
[15:55] <ingm> if anyone has a minute id be grateful for some help getting wireless to work in 11.04
[15:56] <VOTProductions_> Sorry.
[15:56] <theadmin> ingm: What card?
[15:56] <ingm> hmmm
[15:56] <VOTProductions_> My computers crashed again.
[15:56] <ingm> let me google it
[15:56] <VOTProductions_> Aha, so...
[15:56] <VOTProductions_> Go to Synaptic Package Manager.
[15:57] <VOTProductions_> Type your password, then press OK.
[15:57]  * Emmanuel_Chanel didn't know there was #ubuntu-tw .
[15:57] <VOTProductions_> Search for linux-nonfree-firmware.
[15:57] <VOTProductions_> Right click it.
[15:57] <VOTProductions_> Mark for installation.
[15:57] <VOTProductions_> OK, and press the Apply button.
[15:58] <ingm> how do i find the sound card
[15:58] <ingm> is there a terminal command
[15:58] <VOTProductions_> The sound card?
[15:58] <theadmin> ingm: lspci|grep -i sound or maybe lspci|grep -i audio
[15:58] <VOTProductions_> Well
[15:58] <VOTProductions_> Do you get a sound button?
[15:58] <ingm> the speakers work
[15:58] <VOTProductions_> It's lspci|grep -i audio
[15:59] <Edie_> umm hi
[15:59] <theadmin> Hello, Edie_
[15:59] <ingm> i think i need wireless card have been at this too long
[15:59] <ingm> opps
[15:59] <VOTProductions_> Hello Edie_
[15:59] <VOTProductions_> ingm: Followed my instructions above?
[15:59] <Edie_> I installed ubuntu before
[15:59] <Xpistos_home> I am getting an error message on boot up that says "serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /data" but /data is a partition on the main drive. Is there any diags I can run on the drive or see what it thinks are the "error" I am using 11.04
[15:59] <VOTProductions_> YES!
[16:00] <VOTProductions_> fsck
[16:00] <ingm> Gigabit Ethernet supporting ASF (Alert Standard Format) 2.0, Wake-on-LAN ready
[16:00] <ingm> Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN (dual-band quad-mode 802.11a/b/g/Draft-N) Wi-Fi CERTIFIED network connection, supporting Acer SignalUp with InviLink Nplify wireless technology, or
[16:00] <ingm> Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (dual-band tri-mode 802.11a/b/g) Wi-Fi CERTIFIED network connection, supporting Acer SignalUp wireless technology
[16:00] <Edie_> And the problem is that I cannot connect to the internet
[16:00] <FloodBot1> ingm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <ingm> sorry
[16:00] <ingm> this is the wireless card
[16:00] <VOTProductions_> Xpistos_home:  fsck /dev/<device>
[16:01] <VOTProductions_> ingm: Ahh...
[16:01] <Xpistos_home> VOTProductions_: Can I do it with the drive mouinted?
[16:01] <VOTProductions_> Yes... I think.
[16:01] <theadmin> ingm, check out http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[16:01] <VOTProductions_> ingm: Does any wireless connections appear?
[16:02] <Xpistos_home> VOTProductions_: WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[16:02] <Xpistos_home> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
[16:02] <edbian> ha
[16:02] <theadmin> Xpistos_home: Run this and reboot: sudo touch /forcefsck
[16:02] <VOTProductions_> Xpistos_home: Get your Live CD...
[16:02] <Xpistos_home> VOTProductions_: can I umount it by doing umount /dev/data?
[16:02] <VOTProductions_> And boot it.
[16:03] <VOTProductions_> Xpistos_home: Is it your /root partition?
[16:03] <VOTProductions_> Is yes, then no.
[16:03] <Xpistos_home> VOTProductions_: the /data partition is data only so I can umount it and it won't cause a problem. not it isn't root
[16:03] <VOTProductions_> Ok.
[16:03] <theadmin> Xpistos_home: then run sudo umount /data
[16:03] <VOTProductions_> Xpistos_home: Go you and do umount.
[16:03] <ingm> hmmm nothing
[16:03] <XOXO1> hello. what kind of script or sumthing I have to write so that if I hit alt+f2 and type gc then it would execute "google-chrome --incognito" ?
[16:04] <VOTProductions_> ingm: What exactly is the probably with the wireless?
[16:04] <theadmin> XOXO1: You answered your own question ;) Create a file called /usr/local/bin/gc, make it executable, inside it type #!/bin/bash, a new line, and then that command
[16:05] <Edie_> How can I install drivers for my wireless usb adaptor to work?
[16:05] <Xpistos_home> VOTProductions_: I did " sudo umount /dev/sdb5" and it says ok, but then I try to fsck and it give me the error that says it is mounted
[16:06] <Xpistos_home> the opti drive in this is broke and I dont' have a usb handy
[16:06] <ingm> the wireless wont work at all
[16:06] <ingm> does not find router
[16:06] <ingm> works on ethernet fine
[16:06] <rcconf> hi, i haven't upgraded to 11.04 yet. Am I missing something?
[16:07] <theadmin> rcconf: You're missing the Unity nightmare
[16:07] <rcconf> :P
[16:07] <xangua> rcconf: new software
[16:07] <rcconf> xangua: new kernel .. more
[16:07] <BlouBlou> rcconf: Nothing that you can't install enabling backports or using few PPAs
[16:07] <theadmin> rcconf: A former Arch user are ya?
[16:07] <rcconf> !backport
[16:07] <dr_willis> newer is always funner! :)
[16:08] <ingm> i think i need to find what card i have some drive issue i guess
[16:08] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello, all! How do Ubuntu Developers like ReiserFS or Reiser4?
[16:08] <BlouBlou> dr_willis: Only if you have time to fix it
[16:08] <rcconf> libreoffice is good?
[16:08] <BlouBlou> rcconf: Usability; OpenOffice = LibreOffice
[16:08] <theadmin> rcconf: Quite so, but you can get it on 10.10 as well, just get it from libreoffice.org
[16:08] <dr_willis> Emmanuel_Chanel,  you just dont hear much about any of the ReiserFS's  these days. BTRFS is the next big thing i guess.
[16:08] <A-KO> Any word on a patch for http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2011-1938 ?
[16:08] <theadmin> rcconf: LibreOffice = OpenOffice but faster and with better format support
[16:09] <Emmanuel_Chanel> dr_willis: Thx answering.
[16:09] <rcconf> why wont they just work together in one program
[16:09] <rcconf> libre + open office
[16:09] <theadmin> rcconf: Oracle are weird :/
[16:10] <rcconf> :|
[16:10] <dr_willis> Emmanuel_Chanel,  i did see where the next fedora may default to btrfs. so that is looking like the future. Theres been talk of ubuntu doing the same. but personally for my needs. I dont think it matters.
[16:10] <ingm> hmm i dont think that it finds the wireless card
[16:10] <rinkukokiri> Would anyone know why ubuntu won't allow me to passthrough a usb device to virtualbox install of win7?
[16:11] <theadmin> rinkukokiri: Do you have the Oracle extension pack installed?
[16:11] <dr_willis> rinkukokiri,  you need to use the vbox from their home page. not the version in the repos. and you need to configure it properly
[16:11] <dr_willis> Oh yea. the new vbox. just uses an expansion pack/extra plugin dosent it. :) i havent played with that.
[16:11] <ingm> has anyone got a minute to help with wireless
[16:11] <rinkukokiri> theadmin, yes i have the extension installed
[16:11] <trism> c
[16:11] <rcconf> theadmin: ppa:libreoffice/ppa is official right
[16:11] <trism> sorry that was for gdb not here
[16:12] <dr_willis> rinkukokiri,  what kind of wirless device are you trying to use?
[16:12] <theadmin> rcconf: Doubt it
[16:12] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok. Seeing ja.wikipedia, it doesn't look one to install in a week but expectable.
[16:12] <dr_willis> !ppa
[16:12] <rcconf> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa
[16:12] <dr_willis> im not sure there is such a thing as an 'official' ppa. :) dependrs on how you are defining Official i guess.
[16:12] <rcconf> dr_willis: from libreoffic developers
[16:12] <VOTProductions> Hello.
[16:13] <rcconf> hello
[16:13] <dr_willis> if  they say its their ppa. then its their ppa. :) not sure where 'official' comes into play.
[16:13] <rinkukokiri> dr_willis, theadmin see I'm trying to restore my samsung intercept [04E8:6601] to 2.1 then update OTW to froyo..
[16:13] <rinkukokiri> but the windows app swupgrade wont run in wine and i can't get it to work via virtualbox /win7 or winxp
[16:13] <Xpistos_home> I must be doing something wrong because I can't fsck a different drive
[16:13] <dr_willis> rinkukokiri,  flashing a phone via virtualbox. Not tried that.. the #android channel may be able to  help you do it under linux.
[16:13] <rinkukokiri> but it works in a native windows env
[16:13] <Xpistos_home> it says it is mounted but I know it is not
[16:13] <VOTProductions> ingm: Have you tried the linux-nonfree-firmware as I suggested?
[16:14] <rinkukokiri> dr_willis, they told me to google...
[16:14] <dr_willis> rinkukokiri,  and did you? :)
[16:14] <rinkukokiri> and i have been googling
[16:14] <rinkukokiri> all friggen day
[16:14] <dr_willis> A+ Heh.
[16:14] <dr_willis> I just have a small windows machine I use for my android-hacking/rooting/work.
[16:15] <dr_willis> Im not sure you can pass through just any usb device to virtialbox. theres may be some limitations.
[16:15] <ingm> can anyone help with wireless
[16:15] <dr_willis> ive only set up vbox to use usb flash drives. nothing more complex then that.
[16:15] <dr_willis> !wireless
[16:16] <dr_willis> Luckly for me and my laptops these days. wireless works out of the box. :)
[16:16] <VOTProductions> ingm: Did you read my message?
[16:16] <ingm> i have a laptop and it worked out of the box, not after 11.04
[16:16] <ingm> might have missed it
[16:17] <Xpistos_home> VOTProductions: I am not sure what to do with this "Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[16:17] <Xpistos_home> Error reading block 1576104 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan.  Ignore error<y>? "
[16:17] <VOTProductions> Xpistos_home: This means your file system is failing BADLY!
[16:17] <VOTProductions> Xpistos_home: Backup and reformat.
[16:18] <ikonia> whoaaaa
[16:18] <ikonia> Xpistos_home: ignore that
[16:18] <ingm> well will try later
[16:18] <Xpistos_home> force rewrite?
[16:18] <VOTProductions> Xpistos_home: Ignore the error for now.
[16:18] <ikonia> Xpistos_home: no - don't ignore it
[16:18] <ikonia> VOTProductions: please stop talking
[16:19] <airyK> is anyone familar with Fog on ubuntu?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> what's the default Firefox for 11.04 ?
[16:19] <ikonia> Xpistos_home: what file system is this on (/ /home /var etc etc)
[16:19] <VOTProductions> ikonia: A data partition.
[16:19] <Xpistos_home> this is /
[16:19] <ikonia> VOTProductions: stop talking now -
[16:19] <xangua> !info firefox | BluesKaj
[16:19] <VOTProductions> Argh...
[16:19] <ikonia> Xpistos_home: ok - the first thing to do is an integrity check, do you have a livecd / boot cd
[16:20] <Xpistos_home> ikonia: I can get to a usb opti now and I have the drive yes
[16:20] <rcconf> there's no problem If I install libreoffice with openoffice already installed?
[16:21] <ikonia> Xpistos_home: boot from external media and run "fsck" against that device, don't panic if there are errors, just let them run through and lets see how bad it is
[16:21] <xangua> rcconf: yes, remove OO first
[16:21] <rcconf> xangua: eh so I need to remove
[16:21] <theadmin> rcconf: Yeah, it is a problem, they create same files
[16:21] <escott> Xpistos_home, and check the smart status of the drive
[16:21] <Xpistos_home> well, the drive I am running the check on now is different that I have booted too
[16:22] <Xpistos_home> I have mint and ubuntu in this box. The idea is I want to blow mint away and just have ubuntu
[16:22] <ikonia> Xpistos_home: perfect
[16:22] <BluesKaj> xangua,thanks
[16:23] <edbian> Xpistos_home: Have some love!
[16:23] <Xpistos_home> But the ubuntu install I am in now gives me an error about "serious errors while booting /data" /data is a data partion
[16:23] <Xpistos_home> but it is empty right now
[16:23] <Xpistos_home> mint is sda and ubuntu is sdb
[16:23] <edbian> Xpistos_home: Then who cares of there are errors?
[16:23] <Xpistos_home> I am on sdb right now
[16:24] <edbian> Xpistos_home: Use gparted.  Fix everything.
[16:24] <Xpistos_home> can I cancel out of this fsck for sda? it says force rewrite?
[16:24] <compdoc> Xpistos_home, ubuntu boots ok otherwise?
[16:25] <Xpistos_home> compdoc: the ubuntu install does yes
[16:26] <escott> Xpistos_home, be sure to check the smart status in case the drive is going bad go to disk utility select the drive and click smart data/view smart data
[16:26] <botz> f
[16:26] <Xpistos_home> I ran that yesterday from disk utility and it said uknown?
[16:26] <Xpistos_home> and I ran the 1 hour test
[16:27] <Xpistos_home> Smart status: unknown
[16:27] <mrdeb> is it possible to make 1104 install on a smaller harddrive
[16:27] <VOT> Right...
[16:28] <VOT> I'll try my best not to go on the bad side.
[16:28] <Xpistos_home> okay I have to run but I will check back in about 20 mins. Baby is crying.
[16:28] <VOT> Ok...
[16:28] <VOT> Xpistos_home: Is this an older drive?
[16:28] <edbian> mrdeb: Smaller than what? (yes)
[16:29] <escott> Xpistos_home, if you can run the self test it should have smart, there should at least be attributes
[16:30] <mrdeb> edbian: it sys hard drvie hato be at leat something, but you dont need more than 2.5gb. so how do you force it to install to smaller
[16:30] <mrdeb> or it doesnt go forward
[16:31] <edbian> mrdeb: What size is it forcing you to have?
[16:31] <mrdeb> did you see the installer?
[16:31] <edbian> mrdeb:
[16:31] <mrdeb> it says 4.2 i think
[16:31] <mrdeb> i'm not sure
[16:31] <edbian> mrdeb: Did I see it?  I have seen it.  I've never seen it force a particular hdd size.
[16:31] <mrdeb> how do you make it go forward anyway
[16:32] <edbian> mrdeb: Well installing it on a hdd that is less than 4.2Gb free is not a good idea.  The root filesystem is likely to grow bigger than that.  Not to mention your personal files.
[16:32] <mrdeb> it wont
[16:32] <mrdeb> i keep it under 2gb
[16:32] <edbian> mrdeb: How big is this harddrive?
[16:33] <mrdeb> less than 4
[16:33] <mrdeb> i nee dto know how to make it install anyway
[16:33] <edbian> mrdeb: Perhaps you can use the USB creator.  Make a persistent image but instead of pointing it at a USB drive point it at the HDD.
[16:34] <perlsyntax> join javak
[16:34] <edbian> mrdeb: I've never seen the installer stop you so I can offer no advice on how to circumvent it.  (I think you're crazy for using a 4Gb hdd)  It must be so old it's about to fail anyway.
[16:34] <edbian> mrdeb: Try the USB creator idea though.
[16:35] <dr_willis> Im not sure you can do a full normal install to a 4gb hd. a live cd+persistant file. (small one) can work
[16:35] <dr_willis> Lubuntu might be able to fit on a 4gb flash in a normal install.
[16:35] <VOT> mrdeb: If you choose "USB Creator", you might get the annoying "Try/Install Ubuntu."
[16:36] <dr_willis> that try/install ubuntu option is removeable.. somehow..
[16:36] <dr_willis> Ive seen it done. but i forget what/where. some syslinux/kernel config option i think
[16:36] <HydroAssassin> Hello Everyone, I recently had an error regarding pango which made all my fonts mess up and my X to crash, Welll I was able to fix that but now i have a few of these. Anyone kno how to fix this? http://img825.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1ajv.png/
[16:37] <rinkukokiri> dr_willis, was trying to use this method... http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php?topic=10027.0
[16:37]  * edbian will look at any problem if there is a pretty picture
[16:37] <rinkukokiri> dr_willis, from linux
[16:37] <rinkukokiri> lol
[16:37] <VOT> HydroAssassin: There is a simple fix. Don't run as root.
[16:38] <dr_willis> Friends dont let friends run stuff as root. :)
[16:38] <HydroAssassin> Root is my only account its on this laptop just for Security Testing only has backtrack installed.
[16:38] <dr_willis> try makuing a new user account. see if it affects them
[16:38] <edbian> HydroAssassin: This isn't the support channel for backtrack
[16:39] <dr_willis> !info pango
[16:39] <oCean> HydroAssassin: this channel does not support backtrack
[16:39] <dr_willis> im not even sure what pango is.
[16:39] <HydroAssassin> i understand that but it is a ubuntu distro...
[16:39] <edbian> dr_willis: It does fonts in gtk+ apps
[16:39] <HydroAssassin> and backtrack has had no help
[16:39] <VOT> edbian: Probably he is using Ubuntu with backtrack tools.
[16:39] <oCean> HydroAssassin: no it is an unsupported derivative
[16:39] <mrdeb> VOT: what about plugging in a usb hard drive to make it proceed but stil install to hte small one, or will it stop you later also
[16:39] <mrdeb> ???
[16:39] <Psydoll> can someone tell me what kind of file format a .run is?
[16:39] <edbian> HydroAssassin: No.  It's based on Ubuntu.  It is not supported by Ubuntu
[16:39] <rinkukokiri> backtrack /= ubuntu
[16:39] <dr_willis> Backtrack has its own channel.
[16:39] <oCean> VOT: read what he says
[16:39] <usuario_> olaa
[16:39] <edbian> HydroAssassin: Are you using ubuntu with backtrack tools?
[16:39] <dr_willis> Psydoll,  it could be anything. a binary executable, to a shell script. or some other scripting language.
[16:40] <rinkukokiri> backtrack is a LINUX distro    HydroAssassin  fixed.
[16:40] <VOT> mrdeb: Well...
[16:40] <escott> Psydoll, likely some kind of bash script. maybe an elf or a.out executable
[16:40] <dr_willis> Psydoll,  chmod +x  thething     then ./thething
[16:40] <usuario_> ajajajjaajaj teeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiero
[16:40] <Psydoll> dr_willis: How do I install it it?
[16:40] <dr_willis> Psydoll,  if you trust it.
[16:40] <edbian> get the cat off the keyboard
[16:40] <dr_willis> Psydoll,  you run it. :)
[16:40] <VOT> mrdeb: If you install that way, you get the 4.4GB way.
[16:40] <usuario_> eeeeeeeeeeea
[16:40] <dr_willis> Psydoll,  what is this .run anyway?
[16:40] <oCean> usuario_: stop that
[16:40] <ImDexter> i want to establish as default 5 opened tabs insted of just one when I access my home folder, can that be done?
[16:40] <usuario_> la puuta ainooooa i la putaaa mooniicaa
[16:40] <usuario_> ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssoooooooooooooon hiijjaaspeetuuppaa
[16:40] <Psydoll> yes but how do i run it? right click and select instal or something, Its Teamspeak
[16:41] <dr_willis> Psydoll,  you make it executable. then run it.
[16:41] <VOT> usuario_: Stop spamming please.
[16:41] <dr_willis> Psydoll,  chmod +x  thething     then ./thething    <------------------------
[16:41] <theadmin> !fi | Usuke
[16:41] <theadmin> Oops
[16:41] <VOT> ?
[16:41] <theadmin> Okay, sorry
[16:41] <mrdeb> VOT: the grayed out box that wont let oyu go forward?
[16:42] <edbian> ImDexter: What happens if you run.  nautilus / /home /mnt     does it open tabs or windows?
[16:42] <Psydoll> dr_willis: the chmod changes the file editing rights read write etc, the ./thething is a directory made by the cdmod?
[16:42] <Psydoll> in side there will there then be a .deb?
[16:42] <VOT> mrdeb: Yes, if you install from a USB, it counts as a CD install.
[16:42] <theadmin> Psydoll: No, ./ lets you execute a file inside the current directory, that's it
[16:42] <ImDexter> edbian,   .  nautilus / /home /mnt in a terminal? what about the initial dot?
[16:42] <escott> Psydoll, he is saying "its a run file because they intend you to run it. make it executable with chmod +x and then run it with ./filename.run"
[16:42] <Psydoll> ah sorry i was thinking of cd ./thefolder/
[16:43] <mrdeb> VOT: so it will stop from going forward?
[16:43] <VOT> mrdeb: I'm afraid, yes.
[16:43] <denaild> whats a good ftp client that supports tls and ssl
[16:43] <edbian> ImDexter: that was a misplaced period.  The command I am interested in is this:  nautilus / /home /var      (It should open all those locations in nautilus)
[16:43] <VOT> mrdeb: Can you use the alternative image?
[16:43] <VOT> denaild: FileZilla
[16:43] <Psydoll> ok dr_willis thank you for your help
[16:44] <denaild> alright thx
[16:44] <mrdeb> VOT: i tried by it failed
[16:44] <VOT> mrdeb: Any error messages?
[16:44] <ImDexter> edbian, different windows
[16:44] <vsshva> can someone recommend
[16:45] <edbian> ImDexter: I was afraid of that.  I don't think there is a way.  There is an option in the preferences to have very folder you click on open in a new windows
[16:45] <vsshva> me music player similar to winamp on windows for ubuntu
[16:45] <vsshva> ?
[16:45] <escott> vsshva, xmms
[16:45] <vsshva> escott: is it still being developed?
[16:46] <ImDexter> thanks edbina, ill move the topic to develope
[16:46] <ImDexter> edbian thanks
[16:46] <VOT> mrdeb: Try the USB creator (as in install to Hard Disk). But you will have to press "Try Ubuntu" every boot up.
[16:46] <edbian> ImDexter: I don't see anything in the man page about it.  You should make an Ubuntu Idea!http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[16:46] <edbian> ImDexter: sure
[16:46] <dr_willis> Psydoll,  you make the FILE executable.  then you run it by typing in its name. :) or double click.. but some apps are text/console only. thus the use of ./thefilename
[16:47] <dr_willis> !xmms
[16:47] <dr_willis> xmms is basically dead. theres similer ones.
[16:47] <edbian> ImDexter: http://blogs.gnome.org/cneumair/2008/05/26/i-need-a-helping-hand-make-nautilus-tabs-a-joy-for-users/
[16:48] <VOT> Psydoll: You can right click the file, choose Properties, Permission tab and check "Is Executable"
[16:49] <vsshva> escott: xmms 2
[16:49] <vsshva> is better
[16:49] <vsshva> :)
[16:49] <vsshva> anyway thnx
[16:50] <pspeter3> does anyone know how to convert textmate themes to gedit?
[16:50] <alvinPH> dr_willis: how are you doc?
[16:52] <PiX3L> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10, System is crashed. And the error message is given as follows :
[16:52] <PiX3L> No init found. Try passing init= bootarg.
[16:52] <PiX3L> BusyBox v1.15.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.15.3-1ubuntu5) built-in shell (ash)
[16:52] <PiX3L> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[16:52] <PiX3L> (initramfs)_
[16:52] <FloodBot1> PiX3L: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <VOT> Hello [user]
[16:52] <MasterRoot> Hi, I'm trying to run zerofree on my hdd and I need to mount / as read only, but I get mount: / is busy
[16:52] <mobius420> greetings ;]
[16:52] <MasterRoot> I am using mount -o remount,ro -t ext4 /dev/sda1 / from recovery mode
[16:53] <BluesKaj> MasterRoot, what's zerofree, a partition editor ?
[16:53] <MasterRoot> any suggestions how I can mount R/O?
[16:53] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: my guess is you need to mount the partition somewhere else
[16:54] <MasterRoot> BluesKaj: it zero's out free space on a hdd
[16:54] <ZykoticK9> MasterRoot, you'd need to mount read only BEFORE you start using / --- so as a kernel/fstab type change, so it' mounted readonly to begin with.  Sorry I don't specifically know how you could do that.
[16:54] <Xpistos_home> back
[16:54] <PiX3L> PLease help me.. Here is the black screen I get at boot up >>>
[16:54] <PiX3L> http://paste.ubuntu.com/624422/
[16:54] <sw0rdfish> hey guys.....can we update firefox into version 4 in 10.10
[16:54] <sw0rdfish> ?
[16:54] <mrdeb> i guess i will stick to gnome 3 if i cannot install 1104
[16:54] <dr_willis> !ff4
[16:54] <MasterRoot> BluesKaj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/zerofree
[16:55] <JohnSS_> Why is my /sbin/init ALWAYS running on my htop? It has always been there the past 2 days, but not before.  Why is that?
[16:55] <Omega> !firefox4
[16:55] <dr_willis> MasterRoot,  when i 'zero' out a hd. using dd,  i dont need to mount it first.. how does zerofree differ ?
[16:56] <MasterRoot> hmm, this page doesn't seem to specify I need to do anything like that :-( : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/zerofree.8.html
[16:56] <ZykoticK9> JohnSS_, init is the "parent" of all processes under gnu/linux
[16:56] <CarlFK> dr_willis: it only z's out unused space
[16:56] <escott> PiX3L, what is the output of mount
[16:56] <JohnSS_> Yes, but it is usually not at the top of my htop and now all of a sudden it is
[16:56] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: are you running this in/on a VM image file?
[16:56] <MasterRoot> dr_willis: I don;t specifically need to mount it, i just need to it to not be mounted in write mode, if that makes sense?
[16:56] <PiX3L> escott, No mount command is available there
[16:57] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: yes, under VMware
[16:57] <mykal> ok, updated this machine to 11.04, now no video. audio is fine, no video. where should i start looking
[16:57] <dr_willis> MasterRoot,  Ok.  You NEED to remounte it read only.. i was geting that backwards..  thought you had it read only and wanted it R/W
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, zerofre supposedly much faster at filling the zeros in the blocks than dd , according to synaptic
[16:58] <CarlFK> MasterRoot:  I have a feeling you want to mount it in the host OS
[16:58] <escott> PiX3L, ok, busybox should have some kind of mount. but see if /boot (or /) is mounted and check /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see if it specifies an init
[16:58] <MasterRoot> dr_willis: yes, sorry, my bad
[16:58] <dr_willis> I dont see what you gain by using zerofree on a real hard drive.. vs a hd image file..
[16:58] <mykal> VLC plays sound no worries but shows a black screen
[16:58] <CarlFK> BluesKaj: MasterRoot - it doesn't wipe data.
[16:58] <PiX3L> escott, Ok. If it don't, then what should I do?
[16:59] <dr_willis> mykal,  vlc has differnt 'video out' drivers you could try. check its settings.
[16:59] <BluesKaj> CarlFK, only the frespace , yeah
[16:59] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: I know, just wipes freespace, allowing the VMDK image to be compressed
[16:59] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: er, that was ment to dr_willis.. who was asking how it differs from dd..
[17:00] <FloridaGuy> for photo editing under linux is there anything better then gimp ?
[17:00] <ikonia> FloridaGuy: gimp is seen as the strongest, although it can be quite complex
[17:01] <dr_willis> FloridaGuy,  depends on what sort of editing you are doing.
[17:01] <MasterRoot> how would one normally remount / as read-only from rea-write, and vice versa?
[17:01] <oCean> MasterRoot: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[17:01] <sw0rdfish> !ppa
[17:01] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: you don't mount / - / is a "mount point" - you mount sda1 somewhere.  mount it under /mnt/sda1
[17:02] <enthus> hi
[17:02] <FloridaGuy> dr_willis: wanna clean some photo's up a little focus them better
[17:02] <oCean> CarlFK: but your / root filesystem needs to get mounted right, so you *do* mount /
[17:02] <sw0rdfish> how to add ppa's?
[17:02] <CarlFK> oCean: "mount something somewhere" / is the somewhere.
[17:03] <oCean> CarlFK: sure, but the filesystem containing the data on / is called rootfilesystem or root. So it is very normal to call it mount root
[17:03] <CarlFK> oCean: I think MasterRoot is getting tripped up trying to mount a partiton on the same mount point it is normally mounted on, but for the zerro thing it doesn't matter
[17:04] <CarlFK> oCean: if you say so.  in this case it is wrong and causing confusion.
[17:04] <MasterRoot> hmm, tried to mount it under /temp as R/O and I get "mount: can't find /temp in /etc/fstab"
[17:05] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: what was your mount command?
[17:05] <escott> MasterRoot, are you not root?
[17:05] <S2X> hello all
[17:05] <Kjartan> I am having a problem installing ubuntu on my laptop, i am using universal usb installer to make an usb pen. But whenever I try to run live linux or install the machine shuts down. I have no idea why because I cannot see the error. But it seems to always be at the same place. Any help would be highly appreciated.
[17:05] <enthus> hi i am new to ubuntu.
[17:06] <dr_willis> CarlFK,  i dont think you would want it mounted to 2 differnt places however.
[17:06] <enthus> i have one problem regarding gprs dialup connection set up. is there any one to help me ?
[17:06] <CarlFK> dr_willis: where are the 2 places you think it will be mounted ?
[17:07] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: sudo mount -o remount,ro /temp
[17:07] <milind> hi guys, i was wondering if you could help me with something. I am running ubuntu on virtual box, and started working on a lot of my projects there. But lately it has been running kind of slow. It shows i have just 2 gigs remaining in virtual harddisk available. I am not sure if that is the problem but can u give me some tips to optimize performance of ubuntu in virtual box
[17:07] <dr_willis> CarlFK,  if he mounted it read only to say..  /work and kept it r/w to  /     well.. I thimnk the whole point of the read only limiation is to Keep it from changeing it as its being zeroed.
[17:07] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: you left out what you are mounting: mount something somewhere
[17:07] <MasterRoot> dr_willis: I couldn't agree more! I think were barking up the wrong tree
[17:07] <dr_willis> I would suggest useing a live cd. and doing it that way.
[17:08] <CarlFK> dr_willis: I don't think he needs it mounted under /
[17:08] <ikonia> milind: seperate the guest from the host, eg: look at them as two seperate entities, is the host performing ok, then if it is, you know the problem is between the host and the guest and you can narrow the tuning down
[17:08] <sw0rdfish> !addppa
[17:08] <sw0rdfish> !addingppa
[17:08] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: I know, I just tried "sudo mount -o remount,ro -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /temp" and got "mount: /temp not mounted already, or bad option"
[17:08] <Guest86618> ?
[17:08] <milind> ikonia, what do you mean by guest...do u mean guest additions?
[17:09] <oCean> sw0rdfish: /msg ubottu !search ppa
[17:09] <milind> ikonia, and by host do u mean the mac osx that i am running ubuntu on?
[17:09] <escott> MasterRoot, so its not mounted or its not ext4
[17:09] <vsshva> please recommend me good music player for ubuntu, thank you
[17:10] <milind> vsshva, rhytmbox?
[17:10] <vsshva> no its not good
[17:10] <ferretWarren> im lookin ford intel graphic drivers for ubuntu
[17:10] <ferretWarren> i found one but
[17:10] <ferretWarren> it was bug in it
[17:10] <Snake007> Hi guys
[17:10] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: I don't need it mounted at all, but I must have to have at least R/O access to the files on the filesystem to actually be running Ubuntu on it, i guess
[17:10] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: I just booted into rescue and sda1 is mounted on / rw -
[17:10] <vsshva> milind: something like xmms similar well something like this xmms
[17:10] <MasterRoot> escott: it is mounted and it is EXT4
[17:10] <ferretWarren> maybe
[17:10] <Snake007> can I add a graphic driver to my Nvidia card that came with my Mac OsX
[17:11] <ferretWarren> i look for Intel card
[17:11] <ferretWarren> drivers
[17:11] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: yes, exactly what I get, but I need R/O for to be able to zero free space
[17:11] <thruxton> hi, in ubuntu 11.4 if I add or remove icons from the unity launcher they do not remain there after logout/reboot, I always get the default stuff instead, how do i fix this?
[17:11] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: if you want access to the files, then you need it mounted.  but thinking aout the Z util, I bet it doesn't accesso the files
[17:11] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: where are docs for this thing?
[17:11] <dr_willis> the zerofill tool says it does not have to be mounted
[17:12] <CarlFK> dr_willis: lol.  well done. :)
[17:12] <NanetteE> Hi, when I start my computer it says my /storage drive is not ready if I tell it to skip it it shows /storage as 12gb, but when I mount -a it shows it as 100gb which it should be. whay doesn't it auto mount? How can I fix it? I don't want to have ask my husband because he thinks I am dumb!
[17:12] <Snake007> Can I add a graphic card driver to my Nvidia
[17:12] <dr_willis> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/zerofree.8.html
[17:12] <vsshva> ubuntu 11.04 is little bugy
[17:12] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: no, but Ubuntu must need at least /R/O to actually read to binary for zerofree to run?...
[17:12] <vsshva> try to fix problems with graphics
[17:12] <dr_willis>   filesystem  has  to  be  unmounted or mounted read-only for zerofree to work.
[17:12] <nexace> does anyone know how to use ptunnel?
[17:12] <vsshva> because i have very strong latop
[17:13] <compdoc> NanetteE, do you have two hard drives?
[17:13] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: most reliable documentation is http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man8/zerofree.8.html
[17:13] <vsshva> and sometimes ubuntu does some things i can understand
[17:13] <CarlFK> MasterRoot:  root (the user) can write to the device (/dev/sda1)
[17:13] <vsshva> :)
[17:13] <escott> NanetteE, could be a race condition where it is trying to mount it too soon and the drive isnt available on the sata bus
[17:13] <l3> Hi All: I have a broadcom wireless card in my laptop, and while I can connect to the wireless network, its slow, flaky, and unreliable.  Countless other machines are connected to the Access Point and are doing just fine.  Where do I begin to diagnose?
[17:13] <dr_willis> !broadcom'
[17:13] <dr_willis> !broadcom
[17:13] <NanetteE> compdoc: no just split up into partitions in case something happens (/boot, /, /home, and /storage
[17:13] <MasterRoot> CarlFK:  yes, but cannot zero free space IF the partition is mounted RW
[17:13] <Snake007> Hi guys!!!
[17:13] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: and actually, it is everthing but the files it needs write access to. mounting the filesystem only gives you write access to the files
[17:14] <Snake007> I want to know something about graphic drivers!!
[17:14] <compdoc> NanetteE, then / must be 12G ?
[17:14] <hensputra> how to backup configuration in ubuntu 10.04
[17:14] <nexace> ptunnel anyone?
[17:14] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: so mounting isn't the problem, you want to umount it.  or just not mount it in the first place.  Live CD is prolly your easy way.  or a 2nd vmware VM, attach your image as sdb1
[17:14] <NanetteE> compdoc: yes. /boot = 300 mb, / and /home are both 12 gb and /storage is 100+gb
[17:15] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: yes, I'll  just use a LiveCD I guess
[17:15] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: or figure out how to mount the image in your host OS.  I am pretty sure there are vmware utils to do that in linux.
[17:16] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: remember: the image file is a virtual hard disk, not a cpu/memory/machine
[17:16] <NanetteE> compdoc: should I tell it to wait on boot? but how long should I wait?
[17:16] <compdoc> NanetteE, could you paste your fstab into pastebin.com  ?
[17:16] <NanetteE> sure
[17:16] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: would you agree the man page is a little misleading though?
[17:16] <NanetteE> I haven't mount -a yet
[17:16] <MasterRoot> CarlFK: I understand that, thanks.
[17:16] <compdoc> thats ok
[17:16] <dr_willis> yiou could just get a ISO and boot that in vmware and then run the tool from the  virtual iso-live  system
[17:17] <escott> dr_willis, that wouldn't work as the underlying host fs would still be active
[17:17] <CarlFK> MasterRoot: yeah, the docs try to be helpful, and in this case it isn't helping.
[17:18] <MasterRoot> dr_willis: that's what I'll do, I was just being lazy! :-(
[17:18] <ubuntu__> hi
[17:18] <dr_willis> escott,  but the vdk file wouldent be getting accessed by the host os.. unless  the vm is doing it.
[17:18] <NanetteE> http://pastebin.com/6x9hR6un
[17:18] <dr_willis> I thouight  vbox and vmware both sort of did the zerofill stuff automatically
[17:19] <dr_willis> or they had similer features to help shrink the virtual hd image sized
[17:19] <escott> dr_willis, the host os operates the vdk on behalf of the guest vm. the host vdk is still active on the fs, and the host os is still running and doing its thing
[17:19] <MasterRoot> dr_willis: they can, yes, provided that there is no data at the end of the VMDK (in my case there is)
[17:20] <NanetteE> compdoc: does that help any?
[17:20] <MasterRoot> hence why I need to zero the free space, to allow VMware to compact/compress the image
[17:20] <compdoc> NanetteE, lots of entries - having to sort thru it
[17:21] <MasterRoot> However, we digress.
[17:21] <MasterRoot> Thanks for you time guys, it's really appreciated!
[17:21] <mad2> hey guys is anyone else having problems with laptops hard restarting on suspend resume?
[17:21] <dr_willis> I wouldent be suprised if vmware dident have its own zerofill type tool to handle the vdk files
[17:21] <NanetteE> lol. My husband has a lot of stuff.
[17:21] <compdoc> NanetteE, could you pastebin.com the results of: sudo fdisk -l
[17:22] <compdoc> NanetteE, could you pastebin.com the results of: sudo blkid
[17:22] <escott> dr_willis, nevermind now i understand what you are saying use the iso live cd to manipulate the vdk image. thats fine. i thought you were suggesting using the iso live cd to manipulate the host drive
[17:22] <NanetteE> yes
[17:22] <Tesseract> hello
[17:22] <Tesseract> 12:16 < Tesseract> I'm looking for help with a sound issue on my imac's ubuntu  partition
[17:22] <Tesseract> 12:18 < Tesseract> it sounds like out of a cheap radio. I checked on forums,  did some things with alsa, managed to have my crappy sound  in stereo... but still crappy
[17:22] <FloodBot1> Tesseract: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <jtiss546> hello
[17:22] <Tesseract> oh, sorry
[17:23] <dr_willis> escott,  i dont see why  booting a live cd in the vm wouldent work either..
[17:23] <jtiss546> I'm impressed, I didn't expect this many ppl interested in Ubuntu.
[17:23] <NanetteE> compdoc: http://pastebin.com/gJCekgzT
[17:23] <NanetteE> that is both
[17:24] <dr_willis> jtiss546,  its actualluy a slow day in here.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> Tesseract, remove pulseaudio
[17:24] <jtiss546> my son sent me here, he has a bachelor's in IT, and he wanted me to try it.
[17:24] <Tesseract> I was just lazy... so er, I have a sound issue with my imac's ubuntu partition, I was wondering if someone here could help
[17:24] <compdoc> NanetteE, looks like you actually have three hard drives
[17:25] <NanetteE> he might, I am not totally sue
[17:25] <escott> dr_willis, what you are saying should be safe, he could boot an iso within the vm and use zerofill. the question would be if the virtualbox would properly notice the zeroed pages and add them to the sparse list
[17:25] <NanetteE> All I know is sdb is ubuntu
[17:25] <bazu> i install fglrx driver on 11.04 but nothink is smooth
[17:25] <NanetteE> and when I start the computer it runs ubuntu
[17:25] <bazu> i install and compiz
[17:26] <dr_willis> escott,  yep. and vbox may do it differntly then vmware.. but the zerofill docs sort of imply he could mount the disk image  and some how zerifill on that.. if it was a raw image perahaps.
[17:26] <jtiss546> 1546 users, and it's a slow day? wow.
[17:26] <dr_willis> jtiss546,  ive seen 3000 in here.. perhaps more. On release day
[17:27] <doc^donkey> Hello Great computer people of Ubuntu, i come to seek great advice from your infinite knowledge.
[17:27] <doc^donkey>  i want to take a .DXF or .DWF (cad drawing) and turn it into a full size .pdf so i can print full size plans of the sides of my next wood working project.
[17:27] <jtiss546> that's a lot of ppl, my friend.
[17:27] <escott> dr_willis, and the virtual /dev/sda1 in the vm is "raw" from the vm's perspective, so i that should work
[17:27] <NanetteE> compdoc: be right back
[17:27] <Tesseract> hm... seems like everyone is rather busy
[17:27] <Xcytre> I'm trying to get SSI to work... I've tried two ways shown here http://paste.ubuntu.com/624439/  but... nothing is showing up where the included html should be.
[17:28] <dr_willis> Tesseract,  you check the askubuntu.com site yet?
[17:28] <mad2> any ideas to stop restarting on suspend resume?
[17:28] <dr_willis> Tesseract,  i dont own a imac. and rarely have sound issues. :) so cant really help
[17:28] <Tesseract> yes, I did a lot of searching, managed to get it stereo, but still crappy
[17:28] <NanetteE> back.
[17:28] <jtiss546> have to leave for now, I have another hd to install, thanks for the welcome, will come back soon.
[17:29] <archana8763> Hi. If I use Multicd script to have Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit, 32 bit and then linux mint 64 bit together, will I be able to Install the distros- or will it just allow me to use live sessions of these distros?
[17:29] <Tesseract> just checked, I went on a lot of sites but not specifically askubuntu
[17:29] <MasterRoot> zerofree seems to be working a treat from a liveCD, as would be expected
[17:29] <NanetteE> compdoc: back
[17:29] <dr_willis> archana8763,  the live sessions normally have an install icon.  so you can install each one if you wanted
[17:29] <Tesseract> ill try there, I understand it is a quite specific problem
[17:30] <Tesseract> thanks
[17:30] <dr_willis> Tesseract,  its a new site :)
[17:30] <Tesseract> oh, that explains
[17:30] <dr_willis> just been out a few months.
[17:30] <Tesseract> cool, i/
[17:30] <Tesseract> ill post my question there
[17:30] <Tesseract> thanks a lot, have a nice day
[17:30] <archana8763> dr_willis, Ok. Thanks.
[17:30] <dr_willis> use the search feature furst > :)  then post..
[17:31] <Tesseract> of course
[17:31] <dr_willis> askubuntu is starting to get a  lot of ratehr pointless questions ive seen. :) I can browse it from my android phone.
[17:31] <C0NGR355> i am in ubuntu 11.04 with uniny 3d. i don't see the cursor in terminal. why?
[17:31] <compdoc> NanetteE, oh, thought you had left
[17:32] <compdoc> NanetteE, does that machine boot other OSes?
[17:32] <NanetteE> linux mint maybe?
[17:32] <compdoc> I mean do you dual boot, like windows, as well as ubuntu
[17:33] <compdoc> guess not
[17:34] <NanetteE> compdoc: no
[17:34] <NanetteE> my husband has to do something in the Bio to boot something else
[17:34] <NanetteE> maybe switch the network card or something
[17:37] <compdoc> NanetteE, /dev/sdb is a 160.0GB drive and is what you are booting from and it has a swap file. /dev/sda is an 80.0 GB drive, and it also has a swap file, and all those partitions you see - so it has a linux OS loaded there too
[17:38] <compdoc> not that it matters - just trying to keep this straight
[17:39] <compdoc> and /dev/sdc is a 2000.4 GB drive (2 terabyte)
[17:41] <NanetteE> oh yeah that is right. he said it didn't work in the server
[17:42] <compdoc> NanetteE, I dont see where /storage ever gets mounted
[17:42] <compdoc> theres a /data
[17:42] <compdoc> is that it?
[17:43] <lapion> 2Tb drives usually use 4mb sectors, and the bios might not support it..
[17:43] <lapion> however linux does support it.. from a certain distro..
[17:46] <NanetteE> compdoc: sorry data
[17:46] <NanetteE> that is right
[17:48] <Pupeno> Can I install XFCE and log into it easily?
[17:48] <compdoc> NanetteE, I think your fstab is hosed
[17:49] <ZykoticK9> Pupeno, sure, install the xfce-desktop (not sure about that package name) and then choose XFCE at the GDM login
[17:49] <ZykoticK9> Pupeno, might be xubuntu-desktop perhaps?
[17:49] <NanetteE> any ideas on how I can fix it?
[17:50] <escott> NanetteE, the drive does get mounted when you do mount -a right?
[17:50] <philinux> Pupeno: heres a nice how to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xfce
[17:50] <Pupeno> so, gdm will show the option... ok.
[17:50] <NanetteE> yes
[17:50] <NanetteE> escott: yes
[17:51] <HydroAssassin> Hello Everyone, I recently had an error regarding pango which made all my fonts mess up and my X to crash, Welll I was able to fix that but now i have a few of these. Anyone kno how to fix this? http://img825.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1ajv.png/
[17:51] <escott> NanetteE, and its the 2gb drive that isn't coming up
[17:51] <escott> NanetteE, rather 2TB
[17:51] <NanetteE> no, the 100gb drive
[17:51] <mark__> ls
[17:51] <compdoc> NanetteE, it can be fixed
[17:51] <mark__> hi
[17:51] <mark__> hello
[17:51] <mark__> anyone here?
[17:52] <disposable> when i try to mount a nfs v3 share (rw,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) from a freshly installed natty (with -o users,auto,vers=3), all i get is "rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking". when i try to start stat.d, i get "Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing". statd isn't running and can't be started, setting "NEED_STATD=yes" in /etc/default/nfs-common does not start it either when i try to mount. mounting with "-o nolock" wo
[17:53] <ZykoticK9> disposable, do you have portmap installed?
[17:54] <disposable> ZykoticK9: yes, it was a dependency
[17:54] <ZykoticK9> disposable, ok, just checking
[17:56] <compdoc> NanetteE, give me a few mins - Im writing a new fstab for you
[17:58] <mjf_> join #pylons
[17:59] <domedagen> Hi
[17:59] <berefeira> anyone switch back to meerkat after using natty?
[18:00] <r3m> Hi all, my ubuntu box freeze maybe 2-3 time month. i can't even go to console with ctrl+alt+fkey.
[18:00] <rinkukokiri> berefeira, thinking about it...
[18:00] <rinkukokiri> berefeira, lot of things broke with natty on my machine
[18:01] <domedagen> I accidentally followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=749793 to install projectM and I cant start projectM now so I want to uninstall it again
[18:01] <berefeira> rinkukokiri: interface just reset itself on me, dock everything
[18:01] <domedagen> How do I uninstall a svn program
[18:02] <NanetteE> compdoc: ok
[18:02] <rinkukokiri> berefeira,  i don't use the unity interface, i find it buggy, with too much overhead and a waste of space.  I login to the ubuntu classic session.
[18:02] <erpingham> r3m, is there any specific application that causes it to crash? I have experiences freezes in the past using when running a 3d game full-screen.
[18:02] <VCoolio> domedagen: in the folder where you did 'sudo make install' now do 'sudo make uninstall'
[18:02] <erpingham> experienced
[18:03] <berefeira> rinkukokiri: i might have to try that, does the system reset itself on a whim?
[18:03] <compdoc> NanetteE, the UUID number is wrong for /data, which I think is the main problem
[18:03] <compdoc> they dont match
[18:03] <r3m> erpingham: generally it never happend when im in front of the computer. the only thing that run is irssi and screen
[18:03] <PCdoc> :-o compdoc stole my name :( chose similar name
[18:03] <rinkukokiri> berefeira, i do find compiz crashes a lot, i'm not quite sure what you mean by "system reset itself"
[18:03] <domedagen> vCoolio This gives me an error msg
[18:03] <domedagen> VCoolio: Ill post it here
[18:03] <erpingham> r3m, okay. I guess the only think I can say then is Ctrl-Alt-Del is a safe way to initiate a reboot
[18:04] <VCoolio> domedagen: wasn't there an error earlier on in the process then?
[18:04] <NanetteE> compdoc: it was /dev/sdb5 but that wasn't working either
[18:04] <VCoolio> !paste | domedagen
[18:04] <BluesKaj> domedagen, it's not a svn program as such , but got to the folder that contains it , right click and choose actions , open terminal , then. make uninstall
[18:04] <berefeira> rinkukokiri: yes, thats what i was referring to, its so random
[18:04] <r3m> erpingham: thanks!
[18:04] <erpingham> r3m, if that doesn't work, then hold down left Alt + print screen, while typing r e i s u b
[18:04] <perlsyntax> Does anyone use the linux-wlan-ng and how to i get it to work?
[18:04] <perlsyntax> :) i hope someone can help me:D
[18:05] <r3m> erpingham: r e i s u b?
[18:05] <erpingham> r3m: I have had situations where Ctrl-Alt-Del won't work but the r e i s u b one does work.
[18:05] <escott> !sysrq | r3m
[18:05] <touchpadlock> anyone know how to lock the touchpad during typing in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:05] <r3m> erpingham: thanks
[18:05] <omex> good evening all
[18:05] <domedagen> no rule to make target 'uninstall'
[18:05] <r3m> thanks guys!
[18:05] <rinkukokiri> berefeira, i made a shortcut on my gnome-panel to 'compiz --replace' on both workspaces ( i have dual monitors) so when it happens i can just reload it.. although usually i get a total ui change... like it goes from nice to old and grey.. a login is the only thing to correct that.
[18:05] <escott> touchpadlock, see if there is a preference in the mouse settings
[18:05] <erpingham> escott: thanks
[18:05] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to work linux-wlan-ng and is there a link i can look at??
[18:05] <domedagen> VCoolio: and BluesKaj
[18:05] <touchpadlock> escott: its not
[18:06] <compdoc> is it mounted in /home/nanette/Data ?  or in /data  ?
[18:06] <compdoc> NanetteE  ^^
[18:06] <perlsyntax> hello there?
[18:06] <berefeira> rinkukokiri: hmm, might have to try this...glad to know i'm not the only frustrated one ;) cheers! pesto is ready, laters
[18:06] <NanetteE> well /data is the drive from the install
[18:06] <domedagen> VCoolio: and BluesKaj  that was sudo make uninstall
[18:06] <NanetteE> and /home/nanette/Data is in my home folder
[18:06] <compdoc> but when you mount it, where do you go? to /data?
[18:06] <CKTate> running into a problem where after installing the latest nvidia driver and running "nvidia-xconfig" the computer will not get past the load splash screen. anyone have any suggestions?
[18:06] <perlsyntax> look like i tALKING TO MYSELF.
[18:07] <NanetteE> /home/nanette/Data
[18:07] <touchpadlock> !question | perlsyntax
[18:07] <BluesKaj> domedagen, uhmm yeah
[18:07] <rinkukokiri> touchpadlock, he did ask his question
[18:08] <NanetteE> should I change that so it just mounts to /home/nanette/Data?
[18:08] <touchpadlock> riokukokiri: "if anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply"
[18:08] <rinkukokiri> touchpadlock, !repeat would have been a better bangout
[18:08] <klown> except it wasnt repeated :P
[18:08] <klown> just impatient.
[18:09] <rinkukokiri> well then they need to make an !impatient
[18:09] <rinkukokiri> lol
[18:09] <klown> i agree.
[18:09] <thruxton> hi, in ubuntu 11.4 if I add or remove icons from the unity launcher they do not remain there after logout/reboot, I always get the default stuff instead, how do i fix this?
[18:09] <r3m> erpingham: I really appreciate your help! thanks again
[18:09] <compdoc> NanetteE, could you open /data and see whats in there?
[18:09] <erpingham> r3m: you're welcome
[18:09] <NanetteE> there is nothing in there right now
[18:10] <NanetteE> but it says 10.2 gb free?
[18:10] <CKTate> running into a problem where after installing the latest nvidia driver and running "nvidia-xconfig" the computer will not get past the load splash screen. anyone have any suggestions?
[18:10] <NanetteE> compdoc: and /home/nanette/Data says 110.3 GB?
[18:10] <rinkukokiri> here's my ubuntu question:   how many users want unity as their primary desktop.    I ask this because it is a direct quote from UDS apparently..
[18:11] <compdoc> so its mounted then
[18:11] <rinkukokiri> because I don't and i'm an ubuntu user
[18:11] <klown> CKTate, I was having a similar issue, try starting in commandline, and running startx, and see if it gives you an error about your nvidia driver version and your kernel version not matching
[18:11] <NanetteE> compdoc: that is because I told it to mount 0a
[18:11] <NanetteE> or -a
[18:11] <compdoc> ok
[18:11] <domedagen> BluesKaj: What do you recommend?
[18:11] <domedagen> BluesKaj: Manually remove files?
[18:12] <NanetteE> let me take out the first part and then reboot and see what I get. I will be right back compdoc
[18:12] <touchpadlock> anyone know how to lock the touchpad during typing in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:13] <ZykoticK9> !patience | rinkukokiri kloeri
[18:13] <klown> very nice.
[18:13] <ZykoticK9> sorry kloeri, was meant for klown
[18:13] <klown> did you just add that?
[18:14] <ZykoticK9> klown, no
[18:14] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, huh?
[18:14] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, what's that about?
[18:14] <klown> rinkukokiri, we were discussing it earlier
[18:14] <klown> he was showing us the command exists.
[18:14] <rinkukokiri> aah
[18:14] <rinkukokiri> yes that is right :D
[18:14] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, you asked for a !impatent factoid - i though i gave you one ;)
[18:14] <rinkukokiri> ty ZykoticK9
[18:15] <domedagen> BluesKaj: ?
[18:15] <klown> how do u get a list of factoids btw?
[18:15] <rinkukokiri> !factoids | klown
[18:15] <klown> ty
[18:16] <rinkukokiri> np :D
[18:16] <lucas-arg> OK! Ubuntu fail me again... When Im trying to boot... my laptop stops bootin and caps locks stays blinking... I had to reboot 4 times to login... Its ubuntu 11.04 and HP Pavilion DV6, how do i solve this stupid bug?
[18:18] <touchpadlock> lucas-arg: sounds like hardware failure
[18:18] <touchpadlock> anyone know how to lock the touchpad during typing in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:18] <DriesVD> Rather unlikely that there'd be a bug in the booting procedure...probably a hardware flaw?
[18:19] <lucas-arg> touchpadlock: hardware works great... in windows i have no problem at all
[18:19] <touchpadlock> lucas-arg: sounds like kernel panic maybe, have you seen that at all?
[18:19] <NanetteE> compdoc: thank you for your help
[18:19] <lucas-arg> touchpadlock: sounds like kernel panic to me
[18:19] <NanetteE> compdoc: it is working right now
[18:19] <compdoc> NanetteE, what did you do?
[18:19] <compdoc> I created a new fstab for you
[18:19] <lucas-arg> touchpadlock: ive installed server and desktop kernels... but i have no other kernel in the repo to downgrade or anything
[18:19] <NanetteE> compdoc: commented out the /data that was on the orignal install  and it boots without an error message
[18:20] <NanetteE> compdoc: THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK!
[18:20] <compdoc> ok, but my fstab would work better, I think
[18:20] <touchpadlock> lucas-org: when i get kernel panics, i keep downgrading; if you are using old hardware, maybe try ubuntu 7.10
[18:20] <NanetteE> compdoc: ok
[18:20] <Erealz> http://pastebin.com/s8LH30WQ how can i get rid of an install error that wont go away.
[18:20] <compdoc> http://pastebin.com/1pSPNbg0
[18:21] <lucas-arg> touchpadlock: lol... hp dv6 i7 4gm ram 500gb 7200 rpm nvidia 320m no old hardware either
[18:21] <ingm> hi am bit new on this was wondering if someone could help me with wifi acer laptop
[18:21] <ingm> doesnt work
[18:21] <touchpadlock> !wifi | ingm
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> Erealz, start by trying "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:22] <ingm> well as far as i can see it cant see the card
[18:22] <ingm> i had a look and cant work it
[18:22] <touchpadlock> ingm: try "sudo lshw" in terminal to see if you see it, and try "sudo iwconfig" to see if you have a wireless interface
[18:22] <JamesMR> Hi, hard drive woes on my main drive, currently running off a usb flash drive, here's the error I get when trying to mount the drive when running no my flash stick http://paste.ubuntu.com/624476/ and here's dmesg | tail http://paste.ubuntu.com/624478/
[18:22] <touchpadlock> anyone know how to lock the touchpad during typing in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:23] <lucas-arg> i hope 11.10 doesnt use plymouth and stays stable... im tired of this kinda bugs
[18:23] <JamesMR> I seem to get this problem when using flash in chromium
[18:23] <Netto> my ubuntu 11.04 keeps changing the default keyboard settings after restarting.. how to fix it?
[18:24] <ingm> i get pci (sysfs)
[18:24] <adf> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 with 10 GB of disk space for Ubuntu. I want to increase it to 20 GB, how would I go about doing this from Ubuntu?
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> JamesMR, the I/O error on sda isn't a good sign.  The segfault with npviewer (is flash crashing, hard).
[18:24] <captainjamie> adf gparted?
[18:24] <brown_fern> touchpadlock: This is only a guess that you may have already thought of, but would you have a function key "fn" that would lock the touchpad? On a laptop that I have there is a dedicated button concerning this near the touchpad. In order to find out you'd want to look at the icon-like pictures related to the "fn" key and experiment, or look up documentation on the website for your laptop manufacturer.
[18:24] <adf> What?
[18:24] <NanetteE> compdoc: I don't need to mout the /boot drive?
[18:24] <JamesMR> ZykoticK9: is there much I can do?
[18:24] <Xcytre> james - that kind of error would make me nauseous
[18:25] <adf> Oh, I forgot to mention I used Wubi also.
[18:25] <compdoc> NanetteE, nope
[18:25] <ingm> on sudo iwconfig it says no wireless extensions
[18:25] <compdoc> its a boot partition, and you should never mess with it
[18:25] <captainjamie> adf: oh sorry i've never used wubi.
[18:25] <ZykoticK9> JamesMR, regarding the HD i/o error - i'd recommend be sure you have everything backed up.  Regarding flash - not much you can do...  best of luck.
[18:25] <touchpadlock> brown_fern: i don't want to toggle it off and on manually, only when typing, like on previous versions of ubuntu in the prefs, mouse
[18:25] <NanetteE> I will tell my husband that!
[18:25] <C_smith> Hey, are the same drivers on the xorg edgers PPA for Natty also available for Maverick?
[18:26] <ingm> its a laptop with a built in card
[18:26] <brown_fern> touchpadlock: I see.
[18:26] <JamesMR> ZykoticK9: I don't have any extra space to back up to, I can live without flash though, is there any way I can access my files still?
[18:26] <ingm> looks like there is a driver missing
[18:26] <NanetteE> compdoc: so if I read this right, you took out a swap drive and the /boot drive and changed the /data to /home/nanette/Data?
[18:26] <ZykoticK9> JamesMR, livecd maybe?
[18:26] <JamesMR> ZykoticK9: I'm on a live CD
[18:27] <compdoc> NanetteE, the swap drive is defined further up, and you only want one sawp
[18:27] <compdoc> swap
[18:27] <ZykoticK9> JamesMR, oh.  sorry, i'm not sure what to suggest.
[18:28] <brown_fern> touchpad: Disable touchpad while typing is an option under Mouse settings for me with Ubuntu 11.04 Unity.
[18:28] <NanetteE> compdoc: and i saved my old fstab as fstab_old_061111 cause my husband said it is good to always save your old changes just in case and txt files are small any way
[18:28] <C_smith> anyone know if the xorg edger drivers for Natty Narwhal are also available for Maverick?
[18:28] <touchpadlock> brown_fern: i don't see it, what tab is it under?
[18:28] <compdoc> NanetteE, you bet
[18:28] <JamesMR> crap =/
[18:28] <compdoc> NanetteE, I was gonna mention that
[18:28] <NanetteE> compdoc: I am going to reboot and I will let you know how itgoes. THANK YOU AGAIN!
[18:28] <brown_fern> touchpad: Touchpad, the third one out.
[18:29] <compdoc> cool
[18:29] <NanetteE> cross your fingers!
[18:29] <compdoc> k!
[18:29] <touchpadlock> brown_fern: i only have two tabs: general and accessibility
[18:29] <C_smith> does anyone know?
[18:30] <ingm> is anyone free for wireless help cant figure it out
[18:30] <C_smith> if no-one knows, how can I find out?
[18:30] <guntbert> !patience | C_smith
[18:30] <captainjamie> ingm what's wrong?
[18:30] <C_smith> aye, will remember that.
[18:31] <ingm> i have a laptop built in card and it doesnt work
[18:31] <ingm> says no wireless conncection
[18:31] <ingm> extension sorry
[18:31] <captainjamie> Have you checked if it's on the list of campatable drivers?
[18:31] <ingm> how do i find what card i have
[18:31] <brown_fern> touchpadlock: I have those two but then a third one that called Touchpad. Hmm, you are on a laptop right? I wonder if the laptop package/packages installed on your system? I don't know what they are called or how to help you with that.
[18:31] <soreau> C_smith: Yes, xorg-edgers works in maverick though updates for maverick have stopped since a few months ago. More information on xorg-edgers in #ubuntu-x
[18:31] <ingm> acer extensa 5620
[18:32] <touchpadlock> brown_fern: correct, i am using a laptop, what package do you have?
[18:32] <captainjamie> ingm: one mo... I do know...
[18:32] <Alyssa__> i keep getting bad password when trying to connect with wicd
[18:32] <C_smith> ah, k, so that's why I didn't get the functionality I got with the Natty updates in Maverick.
[18:33] <escott> touchpadlock, it would be synaptics something
[18:34] <touchpadlock> escott: i'll search for a synaptics package to install (i believe synaptic is also the package manager name)
[18:34] <captainjamie> ingm: lshw -C network
[18:34] <LekeFly> How can i send commands to several ssh boxes?
[18:34] <captainjamie> ingm: I think anyway
[18:34] <touchpadlock> escott: no, no software found in the software manager
[18:34] <escott> touchpadlock, there are two things called synaptic one is the package manager the other is the touchpad driver
[18:34] <brown_fern> touchpadlock: I called it that simple because from my use of Debian GNU/Linux, extra packages, on top of the default ones were installed for laptops. I don't actually know how Ubuntu might handle laptops differently, but you do have touchpad support so it is strange that you don't have that third tab.
[18:34] <touchpadlock> escott: okay, it is synaptiks
[18:35] <ingm> oh tons of stuff came up lol
[18:35] <ingm> is this it network
[18:35] <ingm>        description: Wireless interface
[18:35] <ingm>        product: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
[18:36] <louisdk> #ubuntu-dk
[18:36] <louisdk> soory
[18:36] <escott> touchpadlock, assuming you are using xorg-input-synaptics driver for the touchpad the gnome mouse settings should show you a touchpad tab
[18:37] <touchpadlock> escott: the computer came with ubuntu 11.04 already install, don't know, i could check apt-get to see if its installed
[18:37] <captainjamie> mine is under the heading network
[18:37] <captainjamie> description: wireless
[18:37] <captainjamie> product: *stuff* where stuff is my card
[18:37] <sseremeth> Hoping someone can help - been a month since my ubuntu desktop (natty x86_64) on late model hardware has wanted to boot -- came not long after natty upgrade and even on a clean install the thing won't run now -- think I am having nvidia issues, plus something worse related to this: Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) - have tried TONS of stuff, but am likely missing something
[18:37] <ingm> mine says network wireless interface and then pro/wireless 3945abg
[18:37] <ingm> is that it
[18:38] <ratcheer> Please help me connect with my cd/dvd drive. This is a new PC with a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.04. The CDROM worked fine when Win 7 was still installed, but Ubuntu does not recognize its existence. Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 motherboard, Award Hybrid (EFI or normal) Bios.
[18:38] <captainjamie> ingm: yeah I think so....
[18:38] <escott> touchpadlock, grep -i synaptic /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:38] <ingm> what do i do now?
[18:38] <touchpadlock> escott: i checked for that synaptics-input-xorg program but there is a bug in apt-get where it will not check if you have the program installed first before telling you another program is locking dpkg
[18:39] <touchpadlock> escott: with the grep nothing comes up; nano pulls it up and no findings of "synaptic" or "touchpad" in the log
[18:39] <ingm> PRO/Wireless 3945ABG looks like the one
[18:40] <ingm> i guess i need to know how to install the driver?
[18:40] <escott> touchpadlock, what kind of touchpad is this? what kind of laptop? what does xinput --list say about it
[18:40] <oCean> LekeFly: there is pssh, but I have never used it. See here: http://goo.gl/XJvu6
[18:40] <ingm> was odd as i used to have linux mint 8 and it worked out of the box
[18:40] <LekeFly> oCean: ty
[18:40] <touchpadlock> escott: i'll dump online the log, can you url me?
[18:41] <LekeFly> Anyway i can get terminal output to a webpage?
[18:41] <escott> !pastebin
[18:42] <roryy> ingm: this is probably not much help, but have you tried googling "ubuntu pro/wireless 3945abg"
[18:42] <NanetteE> compdoc: IT WORKED!
[18:42] <ingm> i did there is stuff
[18:42] <NanetteE>  compdocHave I screamed THANK YOU!
[18:42] <touchpadlock> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624495/
[18:42] <escott> sseremeth, what have you tried
[18:43] <sseremeth> name it -- rebuilt initrds, reinstalling anything end everything I can think of to my old install -- grub reinstalls - boots live disk no issues *sigh*
[18:44] <escott> touchpadlock, seems that it doesn't recognize this touchpad and just assumes its a mouse
[18:44] <escott> touchpadlock, probably the thing to do is force synaptics to control it
[18:44] <sinanaykut> hello
[18:44] <sinanaykut> i have a problem
[18:44] <sinanaykut> my ubuntu suspends after a few minutes of working
[18:44] <sseremeth> probably have 20 hours into this issue (trying to rescue my old install, then throwing in the towel and _just_ trying to get a fresh install working)
[18:44] <touchpadlock> escott: its definately a touchpad, i am installing synaptiks (with a k) now, its 80 mb donwload
[18:44] <captainjamie> ingm: sorry I was away briefly. If it worked with linux mint then it should work with ubuntu
[18:44] <ingm> i know odd
[18:44] <roryy> ingm: this looks possibly useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[18:45] <ratcheer> Please help me connect Ubuntu with my cd/dvd drive. This is a new PC with a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.04. The CDROM worked fine when Win 7 was still installed, but Ubuntu does not recognize its existence. Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 motherboard, Award Hybrid (EFI or normal) Bios.
[18:45] <escott> touchpadlock, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502560
[18:45] <adrian15> sseremeth: HI!
[18:45] <cub_> hey im having troubles with my ubuntu classic, i upgraded to ubuntu 11 and i wanted to disable unity so i ran ubuntu classic but when i go and use ubuntu classic i cant use compiz because visual effects are disabled
[18:45] <sseremeth> thinking about installing *cough* fedora just to see if it installs cleanly
[18:45] <cub_> like in the appearance tab
[18:45] <touchpadlock> escott: thanks, i'll use that when it installed, thanks again for your help and patience
[18:45] <escott> touchpadlock, see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/311869
[18:46] <adrian15> sseremeth: May I help you? What is your current problem ?
[18:46] <LekeFly> Can someone point me in the direction so i can get terminal output to a webpage?
[18:46] <NanetteE> compdoc: IT WORKED!
[18:46] <sseremeth> my fresh install (nor many attempts at rescuing upgraded system) won't boot - probably two issues (nvida driver stuff being one) -- but the one I can't get past is: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[18:47] <cub_> hey im having troubles with my ubuntu classic, i upgraded to ubuntu 11 and i wanted to disable unity so i ran ubuntu classic but when i go and use ubuntu classic i cant use compiz because visual effects are disabled
[18:47] <cub_> like in the appearance tab
[18:47] <escott> sseremeth, can you please check your bios settings looking for things related to either RAID or SATA
[18:48] <sseremeth> sure -- any thoughts as to what specifically I should be looking at as I have already rev'd the bios and been staring at the settings
[18:48] <debd> cub_: maybe you need the graphics card driver/
[18:48] <cub_> i checked
[18:48] <cub_> i have all my drivers
[18:48] <cub_> im using intel i5 integrated graphics
[18:48] <cub_> it was working before on regular ubuntu with unity
[18:48] <nubbo> hey does anyone know how to turn off unity when running the live cd? I am trying to recover some stuff off a old computer and it doesnt work with unity.
[18:48] <compdoc> NanetteE   :)
[18:48] <caneluponero> io
[18:48] <cub_> and actually when i ran the main ubuntu one with unity my panel disappeared
[18:49] <cub_> and i cant even go into gconf or anything
[18:49] <I_Messed_up> Hello
[18:49] <I_Messed_up> can anyone help a despeate soul????
[18:49] <rinkukokiri> cub_, i had a problem with jockey seeing my nvidia drivers correctly.. it /appears/ that they are working correctly but jockey says they aren't in use..   maybe this is some of the problem..??
[18:49] <escott> sseremeth, its hard to say what to look for. that error just means the kernel cannot find the partition for /
[18:49] <rinkukokiri> cub s/had/have/
[18:50] <cub_> ok
[18:50] <cub_> i don't know the solution
[18:50] <rinkukokiri> just an idea
[18:50] <ratcheer> I_Messed_up: What do you need?
[18:50] <I_Messed_up> thx ratcheer
[18:50] <escott> cub_, you could just try and start compiz with compiz --replace
[18:50] <I_Messed_up> i was installing natty clean (upgrading from lucid)
[18:51] <I_Messed_up> and i accidentaly changed the filesystem tye of my personal data partition form EXT3 to EXT4
[18:51] <shududy> ok i came back
[18:51] <I_Messed_up> ...
[18:51] <adrian15> sseremeth: And have you checked if grub.cfg is generated ok? I mean... UUID being ok and so on? Are you maybe installating from a USB device ?
[18:51] <I_Messed_up> is there any way to get my stuff back??
[18:51] <shududy> let me ask the question again, my system freezes randomly and i want to find out about the reason. which steps i shoult take
[18:51] <Rexodus> Nice nick I_Messed_up ;]
[18:51] <I_Messed_up> i really did tought :(
[18:51] <ratcheer> I_Messed_up: Did you format it?
[18:51] <I_Messed_up> i think i might have lost 5 years of personal pics
[18:51] <escott> I_Messed_up, if you didn't overwrite the data just change ext3 to ext4 in /etc/fstab
[18:51] <I_Messed_up> no i didnt select format
[18:52] <I_Messed_up> how to?
[18:52] <tensorpudding> I_Messed_up: if you didn't select format, then it wasn't touched
[18:52] <sseremeth> @escott: afaict - the disks are fine, though -- sata is set to ide mode (instead of ahci or raid) -- disk is internal and attached directly to the asus m4a87td evo I am running
[18:52] <I_Messed_up> but
[18:52] <ratcheer> I_Messed_up: Yes, what escott said.
[18:52] <I_Messed_up> i see empty directories
[18:52] <shududy> my system freezes randomly and i want to find out about the reason. which steps i shoult take
[18:52] <I_Messed_up> like the default dir structure
[18:52] <tensorpudding> I_Messed_up: well, are you sure you didn't select format?
[18:52] <fischsemmel> .oO five years of personal pron is a lot ._.
[18:52] <escott> I_Messed_up, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab find the line for that partition and where it says ext3 change that to ext4
[18:52] <I_Messed_up> ok goign to /etc/fstab
[18:52] <I_Messed_up> tryong that escott THX
[18:53] <fischsemmel> gl
[18:53] <sseremeth> have regenerated the grub config, so would have thought grub would have cleaned that up on its own, but I can go look at it again
[18:53] <tensorpudding> I_Messed_up: please describe your partitions in more detail
[18:53] <I_Messed_up> sorry
[18:53] <escott> sseremeth, have you tried it as AHCI?
[18:53] <I_Messed_up> i have one 8 gb for /
[18:53] <sseremeth> let me try now
[18:53] <I_Messed_up> and one 80 gb for /home
[18:53] <I_Messed_up> i was trying to install natty on / leaving /home intact
[18:54] <I_Messed_up> but i changed it accidentally from ext3 to ext4
[18:54] <HazardX> how do I create/add a desktop (GUI) application to the system such that I can have it *correctly* bind mime types to it? (launchers don't allow me to asscociate mime types to them), I'm using 10.04
[18:54] <tensorpudding> I_Messed_up: when you specify it to change partition types, it probably does a formatting
[18:54] <I_Messed_up> im pretty sure it did
[18:54] <I_Messed_up> because i see default file structure
[18:54] <escott> HazardX, right click on the file you want to associate and select open with
[18:54] <I_Messed_up> ....
[18:54] <I_Messed_up> im trying to undelete them
[18:54] <I_Messed_up> is there any way to do the whole partition??
[18:54] <jiltdil> channel for backtrack?
[18:54] <oCean> I_Messed_up: type 'mount' in terminal, what's the output?
[18:55] <ratcheer> Please help me connect Ubuntu with my cd/dvd drive. This is a new PC with a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.04. The CDROM worked fine when Win 7 was still installed, but Ubuntu does not recognize its existence. Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 motherboard, Award Hybrid (EFI or normal) Bios.
[18:55] <brown_fern> nubbo: I have not run a Live CD of Ubuntu 11.04 yet, most people make that switch from Unity to Gnome at the log in screen, can you "switch users" on the same drop down menu as "shutdown" is on and find your way to that same log in screen? It is just a guess. For recovering data I use Knoppix Linux with the "forensics" option.
[18:55] <tensorpudding> I_Messed_up: if it's formatted, you're going to lose at least some data, there's software to recover files out there
[18:55] <I_Messed_up> or is there anything with a GUI like stellar phonix
[18:55] <oCean> I_Messed_up: don't paste here, but use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:55] <sseremeth> @escott - if I boot the regular kernel, just get blinking cursor - will try rescue mode
[18:55] <I_Messed_up> i just need like 10 gb out of 80
[18:55] <escott> I_Messed_up, thats really ugly. you *might* be able to recover some of the files with a low level undelete tool
[18:55] <adrian15> I_Messed_up: Can you confirm with mount command that the partition is already mounted ?
[18:55] <HazardX> escott, right, but how do I create the APPLICATION itself? I can launch it from a commandline or a launcher, but I can't create it in such a way that it'll open from the UI correctly
[18:55] <escott> !undelete | I_Messed_up
[18:55] <I_Messed_up> shoot
[18:55] <I_Messed_up> sorry
[18:55] <I_Messed_up> ill BRB
[18:55] <I_Messed_up> i need to move
[18:56] <I_Messed_up> my computer ran out of battery
[18:56] <sseremeth> @escott - excuse me, recovery mode -- when set to ahci, get same kernel stack trace complaining that it can't mount /
[18:57] <escott> HazardX, im not understanding your question. to associate a mime type with a *.ext then right click on *.ext and select open with and find your program and say "always use this program"
[18:57] <escott> sseremeth, is there more kernel output available?
[18:58] <HazardX> escott, in the list of programs the program I want to assciate it with isn't there, and adding a custom line dosen't exactly work (since starting the program is a little more complicated than just running the bianry)
[18:58] <escott> HazardX, to create a launcher for the program in the menu use alacarte
[18:58] <sseremeth> @escott: absolutely -- let me get it in front of me and will retype into pastebin
[18:59] <escott> HazardX, create a sh script to launch the program so that it is a single line to execute
[19:00] <adrian15> sseremeth: It is quite strange it cannot boot right after running update-grub. It could a matter of fscking the partition but you say it is a fresh install! So  I discard it. If nothing works try to boot from Super Grub2 Disk.
[19:00] <HazardX> then what about mime icons? right now the system thinks all the program's files are text files (they're notably not), I can set them to open right, but I want the icons too :S
[19:01] <Erealz> ok question im looking for a defineing guid on how to backup and restore on linux incase i brake somthing ? and need restore?
[19:01] <chaos_> join #emacs
[19:01] <escott> HazardX, that I don't know
[19:01] <Arroyo1010> should i get the 64bit ubuntu for my virtual machine, or 32bit
[19:01] <Arroyo1010> its a vm for testing purposes, nothing too important
[19:01] <LekeFly> Can someone point me in the direction so i can get terminal output to a webpage?
[19:02] <escott> Arroyo1010, probably best to run the same version as your host
[19:02] <tensorpudding> Arroyo1010: does your CPU support the x86 virtualization extensions?
[19:02] <HazardX> escott, yea, nobody seems to, its apparently (that I've found in google) not posible to do since ~8.xx (which seems bizzare)
[19:02] <Arroyo1010> i have an intel Q6600, i suppose it does
[19:02] <tensorpudding> Arroyo1010: if it doesn't, amd64 won't work
[19:02] <chaos_> LekeFly: <command_name>>>webpage.htm
[19:02] <tensorpudding> C4Q almost surely does
[19:02] <adrian15> LekeFly: A terminal inside Xwindows or outside it ?
[19:02] <Arroyo1010> yes, it does
[19:02] <RA_drc> !kernel
[19:02] <tensorpudding> err, C2Q
[19:02] <Arroyo1010> s2q :)
[19:02] <LekeFly> adrian15: inside
[19:02] <Arroyo1010> c2q* :O
[19:02] <tensorpudding> well, then you can choose whichever
[19:02] <escott> HazardX, its possible its just not particularly easy anymore. it would involve making changes to assorted things in /user/share/icons
[19:03] <RA_drc> hi, how do i upgrade my kernel to 2.6.34? i am running meerkat
[19:03] <Arroyo1010> okie
[19:03] <tensorpudding> probably choose whichever one you're using
[19:03] <Arroyo1010> tyt
[19:03] <tensorpudding> on the host
[19:03] <adrian15> LekeFly: You are asking on how to do a pastebin ? Or what ?
[19:03] <LekeFly> chaos_: Think i will need some kind of php script
[19:03] <Erealz> question im looking for a defining guide on how to backup and restore on linux incase i brake somthing ?  what would an admin do?
[19:03] <LekeFly> adrian15: no :p
[19:03] <HazardX> escott, I'm not afraid of doing so, I just haven't found anything to explain it
[19:03] <DriesVD> offline
[19:03] <escott> Erealz, backup what... the system or the user data
[19:04] <s|MpLe> in sialm_life
[19:04] <adrian15> LekeFly: What chaos_ has written should work then. Another thing is you wanting all this output being formatted somehow. That's not evident.
[19:04] <escott> HazardX, check the freedesktop documentation it might be there (either that or gnome developer docs :))
[19:04] <chaos_> LekeFly: for example if you have to output contents of the command man ls to a page....then type 'man ls>>webpage.html'
[19:05] <ratcheer> Please help me connect Ubuntu with my cd/dvd drive. This is a new PC with a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.04. The CDROM worked fine when Win 7 was still installed, but Ubuntu does not recognize its existence. Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 motherboard, Award Hybrid (EFI or normal) Bios.
[19:05] <chaos_> LekeFly:Is the file on a remote server?
[19:05] <Erealz> the system
[19:05] <Erealz> i would like to avoid haveing to reinstall all my apps all over again along with settings.
[19:05] <LekeFly> adrian15 & chaos_ it will be updated around every 10-30 sec so that wont work .. cant ftp upload a file every 30 sec :p
[19:06] <Erealz> so i guess an entire system.
[19:06] <RA_drc> hi, how can i update my kernel to 2.6.34? i am running meerkat
[19:06] <chaos_> LekeFly:better write a scrip
[19:06] <eltigre> Hey, is there an ICQ program for Ubuntu?
[19:06] <adrian15> LekeFly: Maybe enclosing the output with <pre> and </pre> should preserve the format.
[19:07] <escott> Erealz, the complexity of that depends on what applications you installed. Backup /etc with something like etckeeper that will give you the ability to merge custom changes back in. Backup the list of installed packages with dpkg. Backup anything special that was added to /opt. Backup any databases/webpages etc in /var
[19:07] <LekeFly> adrian15: still wont do the job.. i need the output to be updated to a server
[19:07] <adrian15> LekeFly: I suppose that you need to run the script on the server and not in your local machine
[19:07] <eltigre> pidgin doesn't connect to ICQ anymore
[19:07] <adrian15> LekeFly: Or use lftp to update the file to the server in an automated manner.
[19:07] <LekeFly> adrian15: prolly
[19:09] <Netto> so my ubuntu 11.04 is suddenly freezing, whats the best way to debug it?
[19:10] <escott> Netto, how hard is it freezing. Does the numlock light come on?
[19:10] <siavoshkc> debug it?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Netto: i'd test your RAM first
[19:10] <Netto> can ping, cant ssh, no keyboard response, image frozen
[19:10] <rinkukokiri> ^^  do what he said
[19:10] <Netto> num lock works
[19:10] <Rexodus> Check your logs where it goed bad?
[19:10] <Rexodus> goes*
[19:11] <escott> !sysrq | Netto
[19:11] <ratcheer> No one will try to help me?
[19:11] <escott> Netto, then start checking the log files to see if anything is mentioned.
[19:11] <rinkukokiri> so they got rid of ctrl alt backspace ??
[19:11] <Netto> kk
[19:11] <escott> ratcheer, not many people have hybrid efi/bios
[19:12] <RA_drc> hi, how can i update my kernel to 2.6.34? i am running meerkat
[19:12] <Rexodus> rinkukokiri: years ago
[19:12] <sseremeth> @escott, sans photo (can do that if you want) -- here is a close approximation of the kernel stack trace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624514/
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: by default yes. Its easily reenabled
[19:12] <ratcheer> escott: Ok, thanks. I'll try Launchpad.
[19:13] <nimbiotics> hello all. I recently upgraded to 11.04 but me and my laptop are not happy at all. My installation sucks big time. Is there a way to go back to 10.10? How? TIA!
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image maverick
[19:13] <adrian15> sseremeth: What's your / partition filesystem ?
[19:13] <DriesVD> you can't downgrade
[19:14] <sseremeth> ext4 I'm quite certain
[19:14] <escott> sseremeth, its like it didnt even find the partition table. other than using ide sata is there anything weird about how you have this configured? are you using efi/gpt
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: you have the 35 kernel branch in maverick
[19:15] <adrian15> escott: Good point. I did not see that list of all partition was empty.
[19:15] <sseremeth> used to be software raid 0, but have detached the second disk, then done clean, stock, x86_64 install (from both normal desktop cd and also alternate install cd) to the one disk, giving it the full disk and letting it repartition the way _it_ wanted to
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: do you get issues or do you simply dislike unity
[19:15] <escott> sseremeth, is the second disk still detached?
[19:16] <Erealz> what the compression tool for linux
[19:16] <sseremeth> thing ran great since new many months back and I actually made it through to running natty -- which makes me think it was a kernel change or something
[19:16] <Erealz> best
[19:16] <adrian15> sseremeth: Have you tried to create a new partition table before installing ?
[19:16] <sseremeth> yeah - second disk still detached (I still want the data :)
[19:16] <DriesVD> they all exist for a reason :p
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: there is no best
[19:16] <escott> !best | Erealz
[19:16] <DriesVD> bzip2 works fine
[19:17] <escott> Erealz, its a trade-off between compression ratio, time to compress/decompress, and support on different systems
[19:17] <sseremeth> not using efi/gpt afaik
[19:17] <rinkukokiri> heh mine just froze
[19:17] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: both; big issues and dislike. The problem is that I'm in the middle of producing 3 videos for monday and dont have the time to check the issues. Thtas why, right now, I'd rather go back to 10.10 if possible. Will make a fressh install of 11.04 as soon as I can though
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: fileroller is default in gnome, its just a gui to the cli compression tools
[19:18] <DriesVD> also depends on whether or not you're planning to share it with like a windows user or whatever lol
[19:18] <sseremeth> @adrian15 -- I let the installer (desktop and alternate) repartition many times
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: then why did you choose now to upgrade!!?
[19:18] <sseremeth> @adrain15: i.e. it couldn't be a more stock install (although I'm sure that's a loaded statement)
[19:18] <escott> sseremeth, for whatever reason the kernel that is loaded by the grub initrd can't seem to find the disk. its going to be something low level like bios settings, partition table (make sure you dont have lvm)
[19:19] <adrian15> sseremeth: Repartition on an old partition table it is not the same as creating a new one. However if you say that other OSes have worked on that partition table it might be a kernel problem.
[19:19] <sseremeth> @escott - no lvm - this time I didn't even try to encrypt my homedir  ;)
[19:19] <jiltdil> hi when i want to add my yahhoo account to empathy it is not connceting while gmail is connecting how to fix this
[19:19] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: I cant recall now the exact reason, I just thought I had to :/
[19:19] <kalio> i burned the 11.04 64-bit desktop cd, but when i run it on my computer (nvidia 3D acceleration supported), gnome 2.32 starts instead of unity. why is unity not running and how can i get it to run on the live cd? i'm assuming it has to do with proprietary nvidia drivers not coming on the cd
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: there isn't a best compression tool in any OS. Its as intelligent as asking what the best colour of the rainbow is
[19:20] <sseremeth> @escott - will pour over bios settings (again) -- I may have missed something
[19:20] <escott> sseremeth, i would try and install some other simpler os and see if you can boot it
[19:20] <DriesVD> it's violet!
[19:20] <dr_willis> kalio,  you need to install the nvidia drivers correct. or else its defaulting to the Ubuntu-classic.. thats not  exactly the same as the old gnome.
[19:20] <cub_> unity is so fucking gay
[19:20] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: right now, for example; ive got 3 windows open and none has the window borders or controls
[19:20] <guntbert> !who | DriesVD
[19:20] <cub_> i tried to disable it by booting ubuntu classic and now i cant use visual effects
[19:21] <guntbert> !language | cub_
[19:21] <vec> using old 9.4 live cd, is there a good reason i cant install packages like irssi???
[19:21] <escott> sseremeth, and maybe use dd to copy zeros over a large part of the disk
[19:21] <dr_willis> You can have visual effects/compiz in Ubuntu Classic.  - somehow. :)
[19:21] <kalio> dr_willis: can i install the drivers while running the live cd? and if so, how do i tell it to switch to unity after i have installed the drivers?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: you are using an OS which champions choice. You don't need to do anything if you don't want
[19:21] <cub_> im speaking english?
[19:21] <escott> sseremeth, you might try booting something that is grub 1 instead of grub 2
[19:21] <dr_willis> kalio,  not that i know of..  You need to install it to hd to install them. Unless you make a live-persistnat usb - then you can sort of do it.
[19:21] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: sorry, i'm not sure what u mean
[19:21] <sseremeth> @escott - will try those
[19:22] <kalio> dr_willis: ok thank you for the help
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Vec: there are no packages for jaunty. It's dead
[19:22] <dr_willis> kalio,  in the past ive used the reconstructor web site to remaster my own cd with the drivers. but thats not a free service/site any more
[19:22] <vec> why remove the servers T_T
[19:22] <dr_willis> I thought all the old releases went to some archive server.
[19:22] <LekeFly> Can someone point me in the direction so i can get terminal output to a webpage?
[19:22] <kalio> dr_willis: interesting
[19:22] <dr_willis> !eol
[19:23] <dr_willis> LekeFly,  use the pastebinit command?
[19:23] <guntbert> !pastebin | LekeFly or that:
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: you could keep the system on maverick until the day you die if you desire. You don't have to upgrade just because the OS says there is a newer version
[19:24] <rhin0> need advice -- having problems flashing a laptop BIOS -- means says use freedos or win98 image -- flash can only be performed from .exe file (DOS) --- .exe file for BIOS Image is 3mb -- dos image (cd or usb) is 1.44mb image file -- won't fit
[19:24] <Erealz> is there a tool that can help me build my own distro
[19:24] <dr_willis> rhin0,  freedos has cdrom images. you would boot them, then access the exe from a usb flash, or hard drive normally
[19:24] <LekeFly> guntbert: Yeah im not looking to paste anything
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: maverick has a lot of life in it and is not EOL. You fixed what wasn't broken
[19:25] <rhin0> I only have 1 usb and I would be running the freedos from the USB dr_willis
[19:25] <adrian15> !casper | Erealz
[19:25] <dr_willis> rhin0,  put the file on a hard drive then. or a cd
[19:25] <Erealz> !casper
[19:25] <rhin0> with that mscx program to read the cd?
[19:25] <rhin0> ok
[19:25] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: I know, it was just that at the moment I wanted some piece of software that was suposed to be overhauled for 11.04. I've had so much trouble i can even remember what it was, I just want to finish my videos adn then I'll have plenty of time to fix my OS
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: could use a win98 cd or ultimate boot cd
[19:26] <dr_willis> freedos last i checked had the proper cd drivers.
[19:26] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: u r 100% rite
[19:26] <rhin0> ok thanks
[19:26] <adrian15> Erealz: Four or five years the tool was named casper. I do not know if nowadays Ubuntu has a better tool for doing so.
[19:26] <guntbert> LekeFly: I probably misunderstood :)
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: log into gnome classic session. May help
[19:27] <rhin0> so freedos mightboot and read the cd
[19:27] <rhin0> all good
[19:27] <Alyssa_> how do you set ur dns server?
[19:27] <rhin0> viva ubuntu
[19:27] <rhin0> !
[19:27] <dr_willis> rhin0,  thats how it would be done with floppy disks even. :) if it would fit on a flopppy
[19:27] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: I disabled unity, completely uninstalled it
[19:27] <rhin0> sorry missed that
[19:27] <Alyssa_> !dns
[19:28] <Alyssa_> erm
[19:28] <dr_willis> the network manager tool has dns settings
[19:28] <dr_willis> i normally set mine to get dns from dhcp. but use a static ip.
[19:29] <rinkukokiri> yeh i usually set mine from the router.. although RoadRunner likes to hijack dns requests now
[19:29] <theadmin> In case you can't get the DNS from your ISP you can always use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[19:29] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: is there any means to revert to 10.10?
[19:29] <rinkukokiri> or 4.2.2.1,-4.2.2.4
[19:31] <adrian15> LekeFly: What about lftp? If you want to update a webpage that's what you have to use mainly.
[19:31] <bonhoffer> what is the difference between Auto Ethernet and Ethernet connection in Network Connections?
[19:31] <brown_fern> Erealz: Do you mean something along the lines of Linux From Scrath? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_from_scratch  As in, for your personal use, or are you wanting to start your own Distribution under a company, I can not help you further with either one but specifying will let others help you.
[19:31] <tortib> is there a unrar app for gnome so i can use unrar with nautilus?
[19:32] <adrian15> bonhoffer: Auto Ethernet mainly uses dschp. Ethernet connection should let your customize your network settings.
[19:32] <bonhoffer> i've got Auto Ethernet that is used now and Ethernet connection that is used never
[19:32] <guntbert> !unrar | tortib
[19:32] <bonhoffer> adrian15: o.k
[19:33] <adrian15> bonhoffer: Right click on network manager and Edit connections. Under Wired tab you should be able to add your customized network settings.
[19:33] <bonhoffer> adrian15: thanks!
[19:33] <nimbiotics> Is there a way to go back to 10.10? TIA!
[19:34] <escott> !downgrade | nimbiotics
[19:34] <Guest19452> hey guys. ctrl + R doesn't seem to resize windows anymore (i swear it used to?). what key combination is used now?
[19:34] <tortib> thanks guntbert
[19:34] <nimbiotics> escott; THX
[19:34] <escott> Guest19452, drag the window to a side it will auto size itself to fill half or all of the screen
[19:34] <rinkukokiri> nimbiotics, well.. you can backup the /home dir and use the 10.10 livecd to install 10.10 and recover your /home
[19:34] <rinkukokiri> but it will likely break a lot of configs...
[19:34] <guntbert> tortib: you're welcome :-)
[19:35] <nimbiotics> rinkukokiri: thx
[19:35] <Guest19452> escott: that's not what i was asking :P is there a key combination set by default? i swear there used to be, so i'm wondering what it is now. if there isn't one, that's fine
[19:35] <adrian15> LekeFly: What I mean is that you are wanting to upload a file to a web server (probably via ftp). If you modify it before uploading is secondary. Just add the lines to modify it in your script before calling lftp with your host parametres.
[19:36] <nimbiotics> is there a way to restart startx? all my windows show w/o controls or borders
[19:36] <dr_Willis> nimbiotics,  just 'metacity --replace' you mean?
[19:36] <rinkukokiri> nimbiotics, open term and use    compiz --replace
[19:36] <escott> Guest19452, i think they took that out but you could try ccsm
[19:36] <rinkukokiri> or metacity --replace
[19:37] <dr_Willis> fusion-icon can auto-restart compiz or metacity iof it crashes
[19:37] <Guest19452> escott: yeah, i'm going to look there now. strange they took it out though! thanks for clearing it up :)
[19:37] <Krishnandu> Hi, my webcam is not working in Dell Inspiron 1525
[19:37] <nimbiotics> rinkukokiri: it worked, THX!
[19:38] <rinkukokiri> nimbiotics, like dr_Willis said, it would be a good idea to install fusion-icon and set it to startup so it can restart compiz/metacity if it crashes, or, alternatively, you can set a launcher to do it manually ...
[19:39] <dr_Willis> !info fusion-icon
[19:39] <dr_Willis>  You may need to whitelist the thing so it can show up in the tray under unity
[19:43] <_alazar> One of my users doesn't need to enter the password for log in, I don't remember how to disable it.
[19:46] <escott> _alazar, /etc/gdm/custom.conf or some such
[19:46] <adf> So, I decided I wanted the 3D cube effect. Whenever I tried to deploy it, my computer wouldn't respond. I turned it off and then back on, and now both my bars are gone. I cannot access anything because I have no bars or buttons. Any help?
[19:46] <adf> I'm using 11.04, also.
[19:48] <dr_Willis> adf,  i recall the webupd8 blog site having  the commands to reset compiz, unity, and gnome back to defaults. I think i bookmarked the url at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[19:48] <dr_Willis> I cant look it up right now to verify.
[19:48] <adf> i see it dr_willis
[19:49] <adf> thanks, i will try it when i get back to my main pc
[19:49] <adf> ;)
[19:49] <yshi> does anyone know if you can stream netflix? maybe with wine?
[19:50] <dr_Willis> yshi,  theres programs for windows that let you do it.. not sure if they work in wine. (i would doubt if it would)
[19:50] <dr_Willis> netflix can work in win95 in virtualbox I think. :)
[19:51] <theadmin> loool
[19:51] <theadmin> dr_Willis: If it can work in Win95, WINE sure will handle it
[19:51] <brown_fern> Guest19452: This page seems to list Unity, and other, shortcut keys, see if it helps at all: http://www.multimediaboom.com/ubuntu-11-04-unity-keyboard-shortcuts-key/
[19:51] <dr_Willis> theadmin,  thats not true.
[19:51] <dentifrice> hey there
[19:51] <theadmin> Hello, dentifrice
[19:51] <dentifrice> i'm trying to install a HP G62-a57SF laptop and it's giving me hell
[19:52] <madadam1> hi, I'm tryng to recover my pwd using this wiki http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recover-password-under-ubuntu.html, but when I press b the system doesn't boot, why?
[19:52] <sseremeth> @escott - writing zeroes to disk with dd now from live disk, will try fresh install again after that
[19:52] <escott> sseremeth, that should only be necessary for the first few blocks
[19:53] <dentifrice> I can see nothing but a blank screen on startup, and I get the console by appending "nomodeset" to the grub kernel line, but I would like to know how to setup the right open source graphics drivers for the ATI HD Mobility
[19:53] <ASKidwai> hello
[19:53] <dentifrice> (the laptop has both an intel graphics controller and an ATI mobility)
[19:53] <theadmin> dentifrice: There are quite many of those mobility cards. Which one do you have, at least the series?
[19:53] <dr_Willis> madadam1,  look at the bottom of the grub menu/lines you are editing. I think ctrlx or f10 boots.. but that guide may be a bit out of date. and theres other ways to reset the password
[19:54] <wilfredor> Hi
[19:54] <wilfredor> I am over Oneiric and i have severals bug
[19:54] <wilfredor> basicly I cant to see the applications menu
[19:54] <vec> wilfredor: /join ubuntu+1
[19:55] <wilfredor> ok
[19:55] <dr_Willis> dentifrice,  oh. one of those dual-gpu laptops... ive seen some forum posts and posts on askubuntu.com about those.
[19:55] <theadmin> My favorite way is: 1) append "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel line, 2) run "mount -o remount,rw /", 3) run "passwd USERNAME", 4) run sync, 5) run mount -o remount,ro /, 5) run reboot -f
[19:57] <donttasemebro> hi everyone, i need a new laptop i was considering one with a mobility radeon card (ones with switchable graphics) but it appears that actually those dont natively work with linux so i was wondering, since they dont work and i dont want to install drivers for them (or as far as i can see i wont have graphics) does it mean that the ATI card doesnt turn on at all?
[19:57] <vec> i ran `sudo pppoeconfig eth0' and now i cant connect to my nat/dhcp router, is that normal or did make a mistake along the way?
[19:57] <crohakon> Anyone here able to give me some help with jailkit (using ISP Config 3.) I need to allow a user to use the java command in ssh.
[19:59] <madadam1> dr_Willis, solved. thank you
[20:01] <vec> donttasemebro: a) ati is indeed supported not very well on linux, nvidia much better imho (the propriatary drivers are a charm)
[20:02] <vec> b)why do you not want to install drivers for the card?
[20:02] <donttasemebro> vec: im talking about switchable graphics which isnt officially supported yet
[20:02] <escott> donttasemebro, usually its the dynamic switching that doesn't work, but the card can work provided the switching is disabled in the bios.
[20:03] <donttasemebro> escott:problem is there is not going to be a bios option, and i dont want the ati card to overheat or something
[20:03] <dr_Willis> i recall some switch-video-app thats being worked on.  perhaps it will get included in  the next reelase.
[20:04] <donttasemebro> dr_Willis : switcharoo?
[20:04] <jmcantrell> is there a way to put folder emblems on the bookmarks in the places sidebar?
[20:04] <naxa> hi! how can i resize my root partition?
[20:04] <dr_Willis> donttasemebro,  i dont remeber. since i dont have such a laptop. :) yet...
[20:04] <escott> donttasemebro, best to ask about the particular model you want to use because some vendors/chips handle switching differently
[20:04] <donttasemebro> dr_willis: lol, well thank you anyways :D
[20:05] <escott> naxa, boot a livecd and use gparted
[20:05] <donttasemebro> escott: err yeah sure mind waiting a second? im not too sure its the right one but you think if i gave you the model you'd have an idea?
[20:05] <naxa> escott: what if i don't have a cd/dvd drive any more?
[20:05] <dr_Willis> dual video cards..  we have came a long way  since the old days. :)
[20:05] <escott> donttasemebro, i wouldn't know, but someone in the channel might
[20:05] <escott> naxa, liveusb. you cant resize the system when it is running
[20:05] <naxa> escott: thanks!
[20:06] <donttasemebro> dr_willis: wish we didnt lol
[20:06] <meway> I installed a canon pixma mp270 to the windows portion of my Hardrive How do I make it work with ubuntu
[20:06] <meway> Its a printer*
[20:06] <dr_Willis> meway,  run the printer config tool under ubun tu and hope   its supported.
[20:07] <meway> Its not there
[20:07] <dr_Willis> canon has rather poor linux support. You may need to research it a bit to see if it can use some other canon driver.
[20:07] <meway> I'm feeling lazy :s
[20:08] <stormer99> Can anyone help me with a battery discharging problem?
[20:08] <donttasemebro> hi everyone, i need a new laptop i was considering one with a mobility radeon card (ones with switchable graphics) but it appears that actually those dont natively work with linux so i was wondering, since they dont work and i dont want to install drivers for them (or as far as i can see i wont have graphics) does it mean that the ATI card doesnt turn on at all? the card is a  6470M   (sorry for copy n paste, probably faster :P)
[20:08] <Lenin_Cat> Would cairodock and compiz result in my Xorg process using 20% of my CPU?
[20:09] <escott> donttasemebro, i think the exact manufacturer (hp dell etc) is more important than the card number
[20:09] <donttasemebro> escott: the second you said :P its an inspiron 15R with that graphic card
[20:10] <meway> dr_Willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1244254
[20:18] <crohakon> Anyone here able to give me some help with jailkit (using ISP Config 3.) I need to allow a user to use the java command in ssh.
[20:18] <lesliejiang> 有人在马
[20:19] <Filar> Hello
[20:20] <Filar> Is lintesia still supported?
[20:20] <alnr> I would like to run XRDP on a privileged port instead of 3389 but it wont come up listening on that port. any idea? i guess it isnt root when it starts listening, but no error message.
[20:20] <ImDexter> again, how do I change the owner of any given folder INCLUDING every subfolder in it?
[20:20] <ImDexter> sudo chmod what?
[20:21] <escott> ImDexter, chown -R
[20:22] <rodd> Hi, I have grub2 installed on my machine but it doesnt seem to show on boot. I have ubuntu in a hdd and win7 in another, the ubuntu one is set to load first on bios.
[20:24] <fbdystang> Hi all, How do I set up a static IP in Natty? Thanks
[20:25] <BluesKaj> rodd , you're say grub doesn't show ...is it booting into ubuntu without grub showing?
[20:25] <ImDexter> escott, what about sudo chown dexter /home/dexter/Compiled/FlightGear -R ?
[20:26] <Spektreii> imdexter:  chown <user>.<group> -R <path>
[20:26] <IT-Duck> Can anyone recommend partition sizes for a 160gb hard drive with Ubuntu (/home on a seperate partition)? I plan on running Ubuntu for every day use (plus web dev. and metasploit)
[20:26] <IT-Duck> How much is needed for Ubuntu?
[20:26] <rodd> BluesKaj, yes, it boots straight into ubuntu. I'd like it to show an option to choose between win on sata and ubuntu on ide
[20:26] <escott> ImDexter, flags usually come first otherwise it will think -R is a path
[20:27] <escott> rodd, modify /etc/default/grub
[20:29] <VCoolio> IT-Duck: 6Gb for / should be enough, maybe 10 if you like to experiment with desktop environments; use for /home as much as you think you need for personal data, or everything else if you don't dual boot with windows
[20:30] <VCoolio> IT-Duck: also a swap partition, size depending on RAM size and whether you're going to hibernate or not
[20:31] <nit-wit> rodd, run this script and pastebin all the ext.http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[20:31] <nit-wit> *text
[20:31] <IT-Duck> VCoolio: thanks! So 10bg should be enough for (metasploit, Gnome, fluxbox, and random other apps
[20:31] <VCoolio> IT-Duck: yes
[20:32] <dr_Willis>  10gb for / was too small here.. once i added in the  var/cache and /tmp/ ussage :()
[20:32] <dr_Willis> but it depends on what you do.
[20:32] <quantumlemur> hey, I'm on 11.04, and sometimes my battery meter shows incorrect battery status or state.  If I click on it and view the detailed properties, it's all correct in there.  any ideas or troubleshooting tips?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> rodd .in /etc/default/grub  change GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 to any number of secs you like grub to appear for so you can make a kernel/OS choice
[20:33] <IT-Duck> dr_Willis: what size do you use for /?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 , is 5 secs , rodd
[20:33] <cladd> i'm trying to install 11.04 server from cd, and i verified the disc from the menu (checked out), but after i select my keyboard layout it scans some directories then the screen just goes purple (blank)
[20:33] <IT-Duck> I'm thinking 12gb will suffice
[20:34] <fbdystang> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu Natty Narwahl. I am trying to set my static IP on my router as 192.168.1.50, ifconfig shows correct inet address for eth0, but I can't ping outside to google. Please advise. Thank You
[20:34] <rodd> nit-wit, http://pastebin.com/M4S5Xfq5
[20:34] <rodd> BluesKaj, let me try that
[20:34] <nit-wit> BluesKaj, if the windows entry was in the grub menu no time change would br needed, why not suggest a update-grub first.
[20:34] <tamer> my window manager keeps crashing, need help.
[20:35] <rodd> BluesKaj,  it has 10 as default: http://pastebin.com/KKKu7Jyb
[20:36] <rodd> ran update-grub
[20:36] <dr_Willis> IT-Duck,  at least 20 normally.  If i ever redo a dvd-video - /tmp/ gets to be at least 4+GB. and i use apt-cacher-ng. so my /var/apt/cache gets to be a bit large also - 2+gb
[20:37] <vec> i ran `sudo pppoeconfig eth0' for use with a mpdem, now i cant connect to my nat/dhcp router anymore, is that normal or did make a mistake along the way?
[20:37] <cladd> anyone seen the 11.04 server installer screen just go blank (alll purple)? i can switch to other consoles, and i can run commands, but the installer looks like it's hung
[20:38] <BluesKaj> rodd then do as nit-wit suggests , sudo update-grub ...I haven't dual booted for a while
[20:38] <cladd> i verified the disk, and it checks out
[20:39] <sseremeth> @escott: install puked at end of downloading stuff (http://imagebin.org/157815) but then said install was finished, let me reboot gracefully, then I get this stack trace (similar but quite the same as previous) http://imagebin.org/157814
[20:39] <BluesKaj> rodd, if all else fails , try holding the shift key aftern the BIOS scrn and grub should appear
[20:39] <rodd> thanks ill give it another try
[20:39] <rodd> will be back in 5 min
[20:39] <nit-wit> rodd, your missing vista the script it may be as simple a a sudo update-grub in a Ubuntu terminal, put the HD" in the bios as sdc then sdb the sdc with the other entries.
[20:40] <nit-wit> rodd, the vista boot stanza is missing it apperas to be there though.
[20:40] <sseremeth> @escott: s/quite/not quite/
[20:40] <geraudk2000> Hello
[20:40] <escott> sseremeth, its not finding the partitions
[20:41] <escott> as if the kernel/initrd doesn't support your sata controller
[20:41] <sseremeth> so basically same issue - ok, let me install another distro
[20:41] <geraudk2000> I have an Asus G73sw laptop but button "fn" do not work
[20:41] <sseremeth> @escott maverick was working fine (and natty did too for a while)
[20:42] <Plazma> hmm.. seems to be  major exhaust leak right out of the manifold to the cat.. dont' think it's sealed
[20:42] <cwheeler> I'm looking for current docs on building a kernel for ubuntu so it will support my eyetv
[20:42] <cladd> has anyone seen 11.04 server hang after choosing your keyboard layout?
[20:42] <cladd> the installation, i mean
[20:42] <BluesKaj> sseremeth, @ isn't necessary on irc, just type the nick and it will highlight on his text
[20:43] <geraudk2000> please someone can help me, I have  an Asus G73sw laptop but button "fn" do not work
[20:43] <sseremeth> BluesKaj - roger, that
[20:44] <cwheeler> what do I have to do to use the source from kernel.org to build a ubuntu kernel?
[20:44] <sseremeth> escott: this is the mobo http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A87TD_EVO/#specifications - will try and dig into storage chipset issues
[20:45] <o0splitpaw0o> hello peeps
[20:45] <BluesKaj> samuel
[20:47] <o0splitpaw0o> uhg raining
[20:48] <VCoolio> !kernel | cwheeler
[20:48] <cwheeler> I want a new driver that's not in the current ubuntu kernel
[20:48] <stevieman> is there a way to find out what updates were appliend the last time I did an update?
[20:48] <cwheeler> what's the best way to do that?
[20:49] <babalu> help plz something happens and now I can move or minimize all my windows
[20:49] <rodd> BluesKaj, nit-wit so the grub screen appears now. However when I select win7 it just hangs and reboots
[20:49] <babalu> the marquee around desapiered
[20:49] <tamer> my window manager keeps crashing, need help.
[20:50] <VCoolio> cwheeler: last link says for that you only need to install the linux-headers packages
[20:50] <nit-wit> rodd, have you run a update-gru from Ubuntu, and has the vista ever run since the ubuntu install? and how did you resize the vista for installing the ubuntu? three questions here.
[20:50] <cwheeler> the driver isn't a separate package it's part of the kernel now
[20:50] <nit-wit> update-grub
[20:50] <dr_Willis> !kernel
[20:51] <dr_Willis> cwheeler,  theres ppa's for newer kenenls. use at your own risk.
[20:51] <dr_Willis> bbl.
[20:51] <cwheeler> where do I find the ppas?
[20:51] <rodd> nit-wit, yes I ran from Ubuntu, I don't have vista, just ubuntu on this hdd and win7 on another hdd. win7 runs just fine if I change the hdd boot order on bios
[20:51] <VCoolio> cwheeler: either it's as a module part of the linux-headers package, or you need a newer kernel and then you need a kernel ppa, check launchpad.net
[20:51] <escott> sseremeth, im afraid this is a bit beyond me. its clearly something with that chipset and the more recent kernels
[20:51] <rodd> i have had vista, years ago on this hdd (where ubuntu was installed)
[20:51] <cwheeler> I need a newer kernel
[20:54] <rationalOgre> geraudk2000: Initial research says that the G73sw is not yet supported by the asus-wmi driver and that it is being worked on.
[20:54] <rationalOgre> geraudk2000: still researching though. Give me a moment.
[20:55] <sseremeth> escott thanks much for the assistance - I'll go back to Maverick if I have to
[20:55] <nit-wit> rodd, do you have the bios reading the hd's in this order, sdc then sdb then sda last. You have a ms bootloader in the mbr of the sda HD it may be that grub is going there rather then the sdb mbr.
[20:55] <o0splitpaw0o> Try using the ubuntu ppa manager from getdeb.net it will allow you to search ppa's and install on the fly
[20:55] <escott> sseremeth, you could run natty just be sure to use the older kernels
[20:56] <sseremeth> escott: good call
[20:56] <jasongriffee> how do i disable join/disconnects messages in empathy?
[20:56] <RA_drc> hi, how can i update my kernel to 2.6.34? my current kernel version is 2.6.32-32-generic
[20:57] <rodd> nit-wit, in bios i have sdc1 first (ubuntu), sdb1 (win7) and I believe sda1 (just for backups, formatted as ntfs)
[20:57] <o0splitpaw0o> Try using the ubuntu ppa manager from getdeb.net it will allow you to search ppa's and install on the fly
[20:58] <oCean> RA_drc: that's the current kernel on 10.04
[20:58] <rodd> I guess it's pointing to the wrong disk
[20:59] <o0splitpaw0o> VCoolio: Should auto resize the drive if you have the diskspace for it. if not, might only offeryou to erase the drive.
[20:59] <nit-wit> rodd, I will look closer at the script myself but it may be that the sdb drive needs a chkdsk run grub is kind of picky in this area. worse case here you could leave t as is except using easybcd to boot Ubuntu , this would have the sdb before sdc in the bios.
[20:59] <nit-wit> *it
[20:59] <nit-wit> brb
[20:59] <rodd> alright thanks for the help
[21:00] <cladd> could someone help me figure out why server 11.04 is hanging on the installation? my disc is verified good from the menu
[21:01] <rationalOgre> geraudk2000: http://scottsautorepair.net/microsoft.sucks/G73SW.keyboard.lights.html has information of all kinds on the topic.
[21:01] <tufte> a while ago, i set up a cool feature to manage my screen (to get windows to take up half the screen) compiz has some plugin, anyone able to help me remember?
[21:02] <escott> tufte, grid in ccsm or window matching
[21:02] <RA_drc> oCean: what do i need to do to start using 2.6.34?
[21:04] <oCean> RA_drc: current repositories are providing that version. You could upgrade to ubuntu 10.10, which comes with 2.6.35 I guess
[21:04] <tufte> escott, hmm. . . that doesn't sound like it
[21:04] <oCean> !info linux-image-generick maverick
[21:04] <oCean> !info linux-image-generic maverick
[21:05] <escott> tufte, browse through ccsm and see if you can find it
[21:05] <tufte> will do, do you have a link, i am not familiar with cssm
[21:05] <benitoa> Hi guys, what triggers "update-manager -d" to display the distribution upgrade message ?
[21:06] <escott> !ccsm | tufte
[21:07] <nit-wit> rodd, you know how to run a chkdsk /f/r on the vista I presume.
[21:07] <RA_drc> oCean: i need to upgrade to 2.6.34 specifically
[21:07] <rodd> i dont have vista, just win7, yes i know
[21:07] <RA_drc> oCean: 2.6.35 will not work
[21:07] <__Alex_> How many Ubuntuards still use windows?
[21:08] <oCean> RA_drc: you have to pull it in from somewhere else, but that's not supported: since it's not in the repositories, you might get in all kinds of trouble.
[21:09] <nit-wit> rodd, cool I never used esybcd until testerday when I installed XP on a hd reading as W7 an extended with 3 Ubuntu, then the XP in  primary. I have grub2 boot to W7 now which gives me a choice of W7 or XP.
[21:09] <nit-wit> *yesterday
[21:09] <eXDO> Am trying to install openbravo-3, and its reporting "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2"
[21:09] <c0decub> In Ubuntu classic no video effects work for whatever reason even if you have your drivers
[21:10] <c0decub> like when you go to appearance, there is no visual effects tab
[21:10] <rodd> nit-wit, ill run chkdsk and try easybcd
[21:10] <benitoa> Hi guys, what triggers "update-manager -d" to display the distribution upgrade message ?
[21:11] <oCean> benitoa: -d checks whether latest development release is available for download
[21:11] <Rallias> Does anyone have the example loan amortization tables that came with ubuntu 7.04?
[21:11] <c0decub> In Ubuntu classic no video effects work for whatever reason even if you have your drivers
[21:11] <nit-wit> rodd, I was surprised at how easy easybcd was it read the Ubuntu grub2 with know problem and brought me to my main grub2 menu, I do have the XP showing in the grub2 menu but it at tis point wont boot with the W7 being the acxtive=boot flag partition, but easybcd boots t.
[21:11] <c0decub> think im gonna use linux mint
[21:12] <BluesKaj> cladd, how old is the pc you're trying to install on
[21:12] <RA_drc> oCean: where can i pull it in from?
[21:12] <benitoa> oCean: yeah i undestand, but for that needs to use a distrib info name located on my machine... Which file ? This is what i'm looking after.
[21:12] <cladd> it's about a year old
[21:12] <oCean> Rallias: you do realise that 7.04 is eol since 2008 right?
[21:12] <vec> benitoa: i think the prefered way is ''sudo apt-get dist-upgrade''
[21:12] <Rallias> oCean: Yeah
[21:12] <Rallias> :D
[21:12] <oCean> RA_drc: i really don't know
[21:12] <rodd> nit-wit, I hope it will do it, thanks for all the help
[21:13] <cladd> BluesKaj it's about a year old, and i'm using the 64 bit server installer
[21:13] <rodd> nit-wit, if it doesnt, ill just boot by switching the order in bios, I only use ubuntu for dev
[21:13] <Rallias> oCean: I thought to try here to see if anyone kept a hold of it.
[21:13] <vec> or u just configure the update manager to show dist upgrade
[21:13] <oCean> benitoa: lsb_release -a ? something like that
[21:14] <BluesKaj> cladd, did you try any other OS live cd on it ?
[21:14] <nit-wit> rodd, there is a post bios menu you can choose rather then changing the bios per-session mine is f12, your may be different
[21:14] <oCean> Rallias: I'm not familiar with that, it came with certain package in 7.04?
[21:14] <nit-wit> *yours
[21:14] <rodd> nit-wit, I gotta check that, I'm a bit outdated with computer stuff
[21:14] <rodd> ive got an asus p5n-e sli
[21:15] <cladd> BluesKaj no, i haven't tried any live CDs. i guess i could try the desktop live CD
[21:15] <BluesKaj> cladd, yes , then we can prove that it's not hanging due to a HW problem
[21:16] <Rallias> oCean I've looked...
[21:16] <benitoa> oCean: thks! i'm checking this path... look like this is not so obvious... i'm trying to undo what Elementary OS team have done to stop cross upgrade... I want to see what breaks in this derivative.
[21:16] <centHOGG> BluesKaj: hooray, good ts
[21:16] <realsifo> hello
[21:17] <BluesKaj> centHOGG, ??
[21:17] <nit-wit> rodd, may be esc, or an f key, or even two keys but probably one. I think it is f8.
[21:17] <centHOGG> troubleshooting
[21:17] <realsifo> do you know the default password of ubuntu live cd?
[21:17] <Rallias> @realsifo: I think its ubuntu/ubuntu
[21:18] <realsifo> i want to swicth to gnome classic in live cd :)
[21:18] <realsifo> ok i will try it :)
[21:18] <nit-wit> realsifo, where are you be asked for the password?
[21:18] <nit-wit> *being
[21:18] <realsifo> in change season :)
[21:18] <realsifo> i log off the live cd season :)
[21:19] <vec> tried with a blank pw?
[21:19] <realsifo> blank don't work
[21:19] <vec> in 9.04 the live-cd didnt have a root pw
[21:19] <vec> nor a user one
[21:19] <realsifo> root also don;t work :P
[21:19] <Rallias> There's something in the ubuntu wiki about it
[21:19] <nit-wit> realsifo, hmm I haven't had to do that for awhile, are you checking drivers?
[21:19] <OerHeks> realsifo, try name blanc, pass ubuntu
[21:20] <vec> really, thats sth you could google. realsifo
[21:20] <realsifo> i just want gnome classic in live cd :)
[21:20] <Rallias> realsifo: try running passwd before you log out
[21:20] <Flannel> no, liveCD usernames are "ubuntu", and the password is blank.  If that doesn't work, it's likely the liveCD is bad.
[21:21] <oCean> Rallias: the thing is, at old-releases.ubuntu.com, the packages from previous (eol) versions are still available
[21:21] <piero> Is there any torrent client for Ubuntu that doesn't download a lot of files when I select to just download one or two from a torrent? (I know it is necessary due to more than one file can be wrote in a block, but is not trivial that if I select just some files from all, the program should delete the others after downloading?)
[21:21] <oCean> Rallias: so if you know what packages it is you are looking for
[21:22] <realsifo> ok thanks :)
[21:22] <nit-wit> piero, you are downloadibg a iso you would have to extract I believe to mess with it if I understand you.
[21:22] <vec> what do i need to install to get mp3 and mpg support, ffmpeg/mplayer enough?
[21:23] <oCean> vec: please don't point people to google here
[21:23] <BluesKaj> piero, ktorrent and deluge let you choose the files before activating the download in a dialog showing the files
[21:23] <vec> BluesKaj: but they will most likely download adjacent files too
[21:23] <vec> as piero pointed out
[21:23] <nit-wit> piero, I see, now you get what the p2p link gives you, in deluge and probably other apps you can not down load part of it.
[21:23] <piero> BluesKaj, but deluge download leave a directory with a lot of files more than I selected before starting de download
[21:24] <BluesKaj> vec, not if you uncheck them
[21:24] <vec> transmission does anyway, and i dont care, i just delete the superflous stuff
[21:24] <nit-wit> piero, are you sure they are extra, and what are they can you be specific here.
[21:25] <BluesKaj> piero, that's why i use ktorrent
[21:25] <vec> transmission lets u select which files to download too
[21:25] <piero> BluesKaj, I will test deluge again. But I made it with transmission, deluge-gtk, vuze and something else
[21:25] <piero> vec, but it download others files you don't selected
[21:25] <vec> only partial
[21:25] <nit-wit> All the p2p apps download the same files from any specific p2p host
[21:26] <vec> and you can just delete manually, no?
[21:26] <rodd> whats the service name for apache on ubuntu? apache2, apache, httpd gives nothing
[21:27] <judget> what is the recomended maillist server for ubuntu server is MajorDomo still used?
[21:27] <piero> vec, if the program show me a checklist with files I want to download, why should it give me files I have not selected? It is not normal the fact I have to manually delete the "trash" after downloading
[21:27] <BluesKaj> piero, deluge is a bit of a bandwidth hog tho , it reserves bandwidth nfor the whole file even if it's not needed
[21:27] <vec> u could enable the option to dtore partial downloads in a specific folder and only move finished download to designated destination
[21:28] <piero> BluesKaj, well.. I has resistant to ktorrent because I use gnome. But I will try it now
[21:28] <vec> s/dtore/store/
[21:28] <judget> rodd I thought it was httpd but it starts and stops as apache or apache 2
[21:28] <BluesKaj> piero, well that's your call
[21:28] <nit-wit> BluesKaj, it has a darn daemon that continues to run after closed in natty as well on my setup.
[21:28] <vec> piero: did you read what i wrote?
[21:28] <piero> vec, hmm.. that's a solution! Ugly, but it is
[21:29] <rodd> judget, both gives me 'unrecognized service'
[21:29] <oCean> rodd it's apache2, have you installed apache?
[21:29] <rodd> yes of course
[21:29] <BluesKaj> nit-wit, yeah, ktorrent does the same , you have to manually quit even after a file is finished
[21:29] <vec> nit-wit: which prog?
[21:29] <rodd> i removed it from init.d
[21:30] <MethedMan> is there any voice recognition software that is decent for ubuntu
[21:30] <rodd> dont think it would have caused the service to 'disappear', would it?
[21:30] <oCean> rodd: well, yeah, that would give unrecognized service
[21:30] <oCean> rodd: sure
[21:30] <nit-wit> vec, deluge, I just kill it with htop.
[21:30] <rodd> oh touche
[21:30] <vec> BluesKaj: you shouldnt just quit after a file is finished, to keep on seeding, Sharing is Caring :)
[21:30] <rodd> how do i add an entry there again?
[21:30] <rodd> well I also got rid of mysql there and its service name still responds
[21:30] <cwheeler> how do I update a ubuntu kernel source tree installed with apt-get?
[21:30] <eipi-1> i got the problem described here: https://lists.launchpad.net/gma500/msg00373.html with a fresh xubuntu 11.04 installation. anyone any hint?
[21:31] <oCean> rodd: no backup of the script? In that case you have to reinstall apache or find an other user that is willing to share that init.d/apache2 script
[21:31] <vec> !xubuntu|eipi-1
[21:31] <rodd> oCean, I removed its entry there so that it wouldnt start with the OS
[21:32] <BluesKaj> vec , oh i do , I usually DL overnight , so it seeds long after any DLs are done
[21:32] <oCean> rodd: oh, so the script is still there?
[21:32] <vec> k
[21:32] <vec> is it ok to talk about xubuntu in here as long as it isnt xfice specific?
[21:33] <eipi-1> vec, yes thx but, my point was not the xubuntu thing. i just added this as i thought it may make a difference in solving the driver problem
[21:33] <jimmie> I say "Gnome" like roam. Why do Americans say it thus: "Guh-noam"
[21:33] <Guest52695> dnt believe the hype
[21:33] <oCean> Guest52695: do you have a support question?
[21:33] <piero> ktorrent made it!
[21:33] <Guest52695> what is your favorite color
[21:34] <piero> dpkg --purge transmission right now
[21:34] <oCean> Guest52695: an ubuntu related support question? this is not general chat
[21:34] <rww> jimmie: the G in GNOME stands for GNU. GNU is pronounced guh-noo
[21:34] <DaGeek247> its like 'gnat'
[21:34] <judget> rodd look in /etc/init.d see if there is a script there for apache. on my system i can start and stop by sudo /etc/init.d apache2 start / stop / restart
[21:34] <Guest52695> how is ubuntu different from unix
[21:34] <DaGeek247> pronounced 'nat'
[21:34] <rww> jimmie: I note that this isn't an American/non-American thing.
[21:35] <centHOGG> it costs more
[21:35] <rodd> judget,  there isnt as I got rid of it so that it wouldnt start with OS
[21:35] <BluesKaj> !unix | Guest52695
[21:35] <jimmie> So you suggest that pronouncing it in the fashion i would a regular garden gnome is wrong?
[21:35] <nit-wit> eipi-1, any errors when you loaded the ppa?
[21:35] <judget> rodd so what exactly r u trying to acomplish?
[21:35] <jimmie> No I wasnt trying to begin some anti-american conversation, Im just curious.
[21:35] <rodd> put it back there
[21:36] <Guest52695> how do you pronounce daemon, like demon the monster or damon the mans name
[21:36] <rodd> or
[21:36] <rodd> find a way to start it
[21:36] <eipi-1> nit-wit, no, everything seemed to work well, until running the conf
[21:36] <judget> why not just reinstall it ? sudo apt-get install apache 2
[21:36] <judget> or use synaptic and choose reinstall
[21:36] <rww> jimmie: The GNOME developers as a whole don't care either way, so one isn't really more "wrong" than the other these days. The original pronounciation, however, was guh-nome.
[21:37] <McQueen> hi, how can i record sound which is playing on my pc
[21:37] <KolakCC> Hi all, what,s the best way to backup my windows partition from ubuntu?
[21:37] <BluesKaj> jimmie, Canadians pronounce it 'nome ' :)
[21:37] <jimmie> So rhyming with "roam" yeah?
[21:37] <oCean> why do we have a pronounciation discussion in irc?
[21:37] <jimmie> Hmm, interesting.
[21:37] <BluesKaj> like the litlle ppl ...gnomes
[21:38] <McQueen> hi, how can i record sound which is playing on my pc
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, hey, you're right - I'm Canadian, and I say 'nome'
[21:38] <BluesKaj> McQueen, playing on what on your pc?
[21:38] <centHOGG> 'nam
[21:38] <DaGeek247> McQueen try google and the app manager. audcity does it.
[21:38] <McQueen> BluesKaj, on my browser
[21:39] <rodd> im gonna go with lighttpd
[21:39] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, same here ... I'm near Sudbury ...forgot where you are
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, ottawa
[21:39] <McQueen> DaGeek247, i tried audacity, its reacording settings are so hard...
[21:39] <DaGeek247> audacity can record all that is sent to your pc speaker
[21:39] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, right
[21:39] <DaGeek247> oh
[21:39] <nit-wit> eipi-1, did you look here, and what is the actual ubuntu version your running. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo#EMGD%20driver
[21:40] <DaGeek247> google will tell you how
[21:40] <vec> McQueen: if you cant get it to work with audacity chances are that somethings wroong andf you will have a hard time getting it to work, when i attempted to do so, i gave up
[21:40] <McQueen> DaGeek247, its realy need  to be expert..
[21:41] <McQueen> are there any easy software for it
[21:41] <nit-wit> eipi-1, I found the actual ppa and your commands are correct have you rebooted to see if it worked, there is no mention a an error where you got one expected.
[21:41] <nit-wit> *of an error
[21:42] <BluesKaj> McQueen, check this out : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/quickly-record-soundcard-output-in-ubuntu-with-outrec/
[21:42] <nit-wit> brb
[21:42] <DaGeek247> i have use audacity and its not my forte, but it still works. google will tell you how to record your pc speaker stuff with audacity.
[21:42] <DaGeek247> are you trying to gt audio from youtube?
[21:43] <McQueen> DaGeek247, yeah, but didnt work
[21:43] <DaGeek247> sites do that for you
[21:44] <DaGeek247> really easy to do. http://zamzar.com/ from the top of my head
[21:44] <brown_fern> Guest52695: These are all good questions you're asking, I'd buy a book on operating systems if I were you. Wikipedia.org has lots of answers but one often needs knowledge of the key words involved in the given subject to use it to its fullest.
[21:45] <BluesKaj> McQueen, there also other ways to copy music and video from wensites , youtue-dl,  wget, and curl  are some that I use
[21:45] <BluesKaj> youtube-dl
[21:46] <McQueen> BluesKaj, i am trying http://www.acapela-group.com/text-to-speech-interactive-demo.html that sites sound... the add-ons doesnt work
[21:46] <ubun> ubuntu 11.04 cd install says it may be a bad hd why the install fails... would wiping the hd fix this? (via dban)
[21:47] <BluesKaj> McQueen, what add-ons
[21:47] <McQueen> BluesKaj, i can dwnload videos by add-ons...
[21:47] <McQueen> BluesKaj, by firefox downloader add-on
[21:48] <BluesKaj> ok, i don't use FF
[21:48] <ubun> ubuntu 11.04 cd install says it may be a bad hd why the install fails... would wiping the hd fix this? (via dban)
[21:48]  * ActionParsnip can't wait for firefox to NOT be the default browser :)
[21:49] <nRy> hello
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> ubun: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, what, are you hoping Lynx will become default browser?  ;)
[21:49] <nRy> Does anyone know how to setup VNC on an Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop system through SSH?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: totally \m/
[21:50] <ubun> ActionParsnip: yeah i checked the download file. then i check the cd then i checked the cd right before i tried to install... and it all checked out good
[21:50]  * BluesKaj uses chromium...I have nothing to hide :)
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> nRy: http://lifehacker.com/317125/set-up-vnc-on-ubuntu-in-four-steps
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ubun: good (glad you checked too)
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> ubun: boot to the live desktop and fsck to partitions. You may also want to test the drive using the manufacturers tool. This will more than likely be on the ultimate boot cd (will take a LONG time to test)
[21:52] <ubun> ActionParsnip: it said it was maybe a harddrive that sometimes causes the failed install...  I have 3 old hd... one isnt recognized by the bios. one has windows and isnt recognized by install cd, and one has error and fails.
[21:53] <ubun> ActionParsnip: fsck to parttion?
[21:54] <usb_modem> hey guys, i have a usb modem but i cant use it
[21:55] <usb_modem> hey guys, i have a usb modem but i cant use it
[21:55] <IdleOne> !details
[21:56] <KolakCC> Hi all, what,s the best way to backup my windows partition from ubuntu?
[21:56] <cladd> BluesKaj i got the 64 bit desktop version downloaded, and it boots up fine
[21:56] <cladd> BlueKaj as a live CD, i mean
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> ubun: fsck checks data health and drive health to a degree
[21:57] <rinkukokiri> which logs should i check if my laptop keeps freezing every couple hours?
[21:57] <ingm> hi can anyone help with wireless have had a look and cant get it working
[21:57] <nina> oi
[21:57] <ubun> ActionParsnip: oh i see... i dont need those hard drives... would just wiping them clean not fix that?
[21:57] <eipi-1> vec, in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is a file 10-emgd.conf but it is empty. i dont know if that file existed before trying to run the script.
[21:57] <rinkukokiri> Honestly though I do think it's firefox
[21:58] <mne7> nina: oi nini, pra falar em portugues use o #ubuntu-br
[21:58] <rinkukokiri> already did a memtest and that came back clean
[21:58] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, firefox or flash?
[21:58] <vec> what??
[21:58] <cladd> hey BluesKaj, you still around?
[21:58] <rinkukokiri> hum
[21:58] <rinkukokiri> not using flash atm ZykoticK9
[21:59] <rinkukokiri> so it HAS to be firefox.
[21:59] <usb_modem> i have a usb modem, i made a new connetion (VPN-Mobile) but i dont have any username or password, i just have a phnone number
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, hum, that is surprising then.  Most issues are flash and not the browser in question.  Best of luck.
[21:59] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, it happens in windows too
[22:00] <rinkukokiri> which is why i dumped windows
[22:00] <zykes-> if i don't get any buttons in my xfce desktop hwo to debug?
[22:00] <eipi-1> vec, sry, wrong person. never mind
[22:00] <vec> you maybe ment nit-wit
[22:00] <vec> hes gone
[22:01] <eipi-1> :(
[22:01] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, guess it /could/ be flash, I forgot about gmail using flash ....
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: tried a different browser?
[22:01] <usb_modem> i have a usb modem, i made a new connetion (VPN-Mobile) but i dont have any username or password, i just have a phnone number
[22:01] <zykes-> anyone know ?
[22:02] <rinkukokiri> just installed chromium..  so will try
[22:02] <phill> openvpn..  am connected to a windoze network with ubuntu. on the windoze boxes openvpn is set up and working, but on my linux laptop I don't see how to set this up... don't even see a package for openvpn in the Ubuntu Software Centre
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> usb_modem: you should have a username and password, just put any old tosh in
[22:03] <Ryann> How  can i install a global menu, or App menu, on 10.10?
[22:03] <usb_modem> rinkukokiri, google chrome is also available for linux now but you need to download the deb
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Ryann: https://launchpad.net/~globalmenu-team/+archive/ppa
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Ryann: hmm, only up to 10.04
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Ryann: let me search
[22:03] <usb_modem> ActionParsnip, i dont have username and passwd
[22:04] <usb_modem> i dont have any old tosh
[22:04] <usb_modem> ^^
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Ryann: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/install-gnome2-globalmenu-in-ubuntu.html
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> usb_modem: hahaha
[22:04] <Ryann> ActionParsnip; thanks. I've had a google, but keep stumbling across some out dated global menu.
[22:04] <guntbert> !windoze | phill
[22:04] <nRy> thanks ActionParsnip! That worked great!!!
[22:05] <guntbert> !info openvpn | phill
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Ryann: has gnome-globalmenu 0.7.10-0ubuntu1~webupd8~maverick2
[22:05] <rinkukokiri> so is there any other difference between chrome and chromium besides the latter being open source?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> nRy: what did? (brain is all over, at work)
[22:06] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, chromium gets the new features first
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: chromium has fewer tracking things, chromium will have newer features
[22:06] <rinkukokiri> cool
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: there's a daily build ppa too
[22:06] <cladd> could someone give me a hand with a server 11.04 install problem?
[22:07] <guntbert> cladd: #ubuntu-server is probably better suited :)
[22:07] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, does lynx have to be run on a tty without X ?
[22:07] <usb_modem> i have a usb modem, i made a new connetion (VPN-Mobile) but i dont have any username or password, i just have a phnone number and a puk code
[22:07] <cladd> guntbert ah, thanks :)
[22:08] <IdleOne> usb_modem: for username use: guest and leave the password blank
[22:08] <usb_modem> ActionParsnip, chromium has important HTML5 and CSS3 futures
[22:09] <usb_modem> IdleOne, ok i did that but how can i start the connection now?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not sure man, i dont use it. I only use chromium daily ppa these days
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> usb_modem: true as well as the nice download indicator bit for unity
[22:10] <IdleOne> usb_modem: click on it? I have no idea
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, lynx can be run under X
[22:11] <usb_modem> IdleOne, when i click on it it get selected when i dblclick it open the edit connection window
[22:16] <Monotoko-v6> hi guys
[22:17] <Kartagis> !info rhythmbox
[22:17] <Monotoko-v6> since I have native ipv6 on my server and ipv6 on my home computer...can I make SSH on the server be v6 only? I suspect it will get a lot less noise
[22:18] <jkkk> is there a more condensed way of doing this command ' cd ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/ ; ln -s ../script.pl '
[22:18] <tomek_> hi
[22:18] <jkkk> just using ln ?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> jkkk: make a script
[22:19] <jkkk> ActionParsnip: you can't do the cd bit though ln ?
[22:19] <Monotoko-v6> jkkk, you don't need cd if that's what you are asking
[22:19] <jkkk> Monotoko-v6: how to do that though ln
[22:19] <Monotoko-v6> jkkk, you can ln a directory you aren't in...just give the directory as a parameter...view the man page for more details
[22:19] <jkkk> Monotoko-v6: what is the comand
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> jkkk: or you can do: ls -s ~/.irssi/scripts/script.pl ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/script.pl
[22:20] <jkkk> ActionParsnip: isnt that the wrong way around?
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, ls?  I think you mean ln.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: d'oh
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> jkkk: the format is:  ln -s source dest
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> jkkk: change the command from ls to ln in my sample
[22:21] <BluesKaj> odd when I run lynx , all I get is some man /help pages
[22:21] <jkkk> ActionParsnip:  ty very much
[22:21] <Monotoko-v6> since I have native ipv6 on my server and ipv6 on my home computer...can I make SSH on the server be v6 only? I suspect it will get a lot less noise#
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> Monotoko-v6, looks like yes, -6 see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T2h0kqS_rw
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> Monotoko-v6, sorry paste fail
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> Monotoko-v6, http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=s/ssh
[22:24] <Monotoko-v6> thank you ZykoticK9 :)
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko-v6: http://superuser.com/questions/282976/ssh-over-ipv6-got-permission-denied-error
[22:24] <rinkukokiri> so ... which logs should i check??
[22:24] <rinkukokiri> my laptop just froze again
[22:24] <Monotoko-v6> ohhh wait...you guys are confused, I have it working over v6 already...I want to stop v4
[22:24] <rinkukokiri> and it wasn't firefox/flash
[22:24] <rinkukokiri> cause firefox wasn't even open
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko-v6: you can blacklist ipv4 with boot options
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko-v6: add: ipv4.disable=1
[22:26] <rinkukokiri> ok my laptop keeps locking up.. where should I check, I've already done memtest, came back clean
[22:26] <rinkukokiri> although i suspect the stick is bad
[22:27] <wad> Using 11.04, is there a GUI way to mount a .iso of a CD? Right-click didn't bring up anything obvious....
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> wad: there are nautilus scripts you can use
[22:27] <wad> hmmmmm
[22:27] <Monotoko-v6> ActionParsnip, I still need to run a web server on v4...I just want email and ssh to be v6
[22:27] <rinkukokiri> ActionParsnip, which logs should I check if my lappy keeps lockin up?
[22:28]  * wad checks to see if I have nautilus
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: after it unfreezes run:  dmesg | tail
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> wad: its the default file manager in gnome ubuntu
[22:28] <rinkukokiri> ActionParsnip, you mean after i force reboot?
[22:28] <IdleOne> wad: nautilus is the file manager
[22:28] <wad> Ah, of course! (Sorry, I live on the command line; trying to help someone else who uses the GUI.)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: can you not restart X?
[22:29] <rinkukokiri> ActionParsnip, only thing i can do is hold the power button until it powers down.. it does not 'unfreeze'
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> wad: install nautilus-scripts then you can put them in the nautilus scripts folder and can be used. People make them o you can just copy them
[22:29] <nRy> I was connected to a remote Ubuntu 10.10 system using TIghtVNC and then all of a sudden I lost connection and can't get it back again
[22:30] <nRy> I am still connected through SSH no problem.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: if you re-enable CTRL+ALT+BackSpace in keyboard settinsg, can you not restart the X server when it hangs
[22:30] <rinkukokiri> ActionParsnip, how do I re enable?
[22:30] <nRy> Can someone tell me how to check if the vncserver is running?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: under keyboard settings -> options button
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> nRy: ps -ef | grep -i vnc
[22:31] <wad> ActionParsnip, thanks! Working on it.
[22:31] <Ryan_Macy> What is the reccomended mail program to run on ubuntu server?
[22:32] <rinkukokiri> 'keyboard settings' does not exist   i got keyboard, (which has no options button) keyboard input method and keyboard shortcuts
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_Macy: do you mean server or client?
[22:32] <Ryan_Macy> server
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_Macy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_Macy: that's ne way, there is no 'recommended' mail server
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_Macy: there are only available options
[22:33] <nRy> ActionParsnip: I got back: root     15449 15427  0 14:35 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i vnc
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> nRy: then it's not running, you don't need extra powers for that, users can run the command
[22:34] <nRy> how do I run it?
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> nRy, what vnc server did you install?  the grep output says there isn't anything called *vnc* running.
[22:35] <nRy> I am wondering why it just shut down in the middle of using it
[22:35] <rinkukokiri> ActionParsnip, 'keyboard settings' does not exist   i got keyboard, (which has no options button) keyboard input method and keyboard shortcuts
[22:35] <nRy> I followed thse instructions you gave to me: http://lifehacker.com/317125/set-up-vnc-on-ubuntu-in-four-steps
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: I dont know the EXACT wording, it's not the keyboard shortcuts one, its the other one
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: then there is the options button you need
[22:36] <rinkukokiri> a HA
[22:36] <rinkukokiri> found it..
[22:36] <neolock> ola
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: http://ubuntuguide.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ubuntu-10.04-1.png
[22:36] <rinkukokiri> thx :D   will try when it locks again :D
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: if someone doesn't give the exact wordiong, try sniffing around in the same are, you'll find what they mean :)
[22:38] <nRy> any thoughts ActionParsnip?
[22:38] <nRy> what is the command to restart the vncserver?
[22:39] <phill> have configured a vpn connection but don't see how it should be invoked to try it...
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> nRy: type: sudo service             then press TAB a few times, see if its listed
[22:39] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello what was the default cd dvd burning tool for gnome before baker?
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> asdfasdfa, brasero
[22:40] <guntbert> phill: network-manager-applet, the menu, way down "VPN Connections"
[22:40] <nRy> ActionParsnip: I typed in 'sudo service' but it does tell them me anything
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> gnome-baker is good, default is brasero, xfburn is good too. KDE has K3b which is good too
[22:41] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ZykoticK9, thx
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> nRy: did you hit TAB a few times? Did it list the services?
[22:41] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> are there any other alternatives to baker and brasero maybe that are still easy to use and very friendly?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> asdfasdfasdfasdf: try xfburn
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> asdfasdfa, k3b (but requires KDE libraries)
[22:42] <mediawork> hi
[22:42] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ActionParsnip, hey xfburn seems a lot like k3b :D
[22:42] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> i like it
[22:42] <guntbert> phill: how did you configure it?
[22:42] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ZykoticK9, heh yeah that one tons of mb :(
[22:43] <ingm> can anyone help with wifi bit of a newbie and i cant get it too worl acer laptop, did when i had linux
[22:43] <guntbert> !pm | phill
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> asdfasdfasdfasdf, ya - I hear that.  I used to use it, not anymore (but still think it the best burning program on gnu/linux)
[22:43] <mediawork> I installed sensors and the sensors app panel on my ubuntu to be able to see my cpu temp.
[22:44] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> yup i agree
[22:44] <nRy> ActionParsnip: I do not see it isted
[22:44] <phill> guntbert, I used Edit connections... from the same menu, the "vpn" tab, then I transcribed the parms as best I could from my windows zip config file
[22:44] <nRy> I looked for either tightVNC or just the service VNC
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> nRy, typically vnc isn't a global service... requires a user to start/stop it.
[22:45] <mediawork> however, after running the config of lm-sensors,  I get 4 different temp values, all differnt... and labeled temp1, temp1, temp2 temp3
[22:45] <mediawork> I have no idea which one in my cpu...
[22:46] <nRy> That is odd, because we were diring it like this and it did not make a lot of news
[22:46] <nRy> oops wrong message
[22:46] <escott> mediawork, you probably have 4 cpus
[22:46] <george_> Hello. How can I remove this package from installation queue? http://pastie.org/2053857
[22:47] <escott> mediawork, !paste us your sensors output and the contents of /proc/cpuinfo
[22:47] <guntbert> phill: seems reasonable, ahh - in the "edit" dialog open "advanced"
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> nRy: then it may get started some other way (like a startup item in your user startup items)
[22:48] <mediawork> escott: http://pastebin.com/Thk93Ybg
[22:49] <mediawork> escott: I have 3 cpus... but these temps are silly, too different.
[22:49] <tsaknorris> is there a away to play Savage2 without fglx drivers. because everything runs more smoothly if i use ubuntus default drivers, but when i have to install fglx drivers then compiz starts to  run slower and plaaplaaplaa :/
[22:49] <mediawork> escott: sorry, I have 4 cpus I mean...
[22:50] <tsaknorris> i cant see the units in that game
[22:50] <tsaknorris> with these "better" default drivers
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> teax64: switch compiz off and then try, may help
[22:51] <vortex> heyy guys,can you encrypt the root password in ubuntu with aes-256?
[22:51] <guntbert> phill: you will have to enable some settings on the second tab
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> vortex: all passwords are encrypted in ubuntu, there is no root password
[22:53] <vortex> ActionParsnip is it encrypted with md5?
[22:53] <phill> guntbert, OpenVPN Advanced Options -> Security  ??    change defaults to something?
[22:53] <guntbert> vortex: the default algorithm is sha1
[22:53] <escott> mediawork, that seems reasonable. you have k10temp-pci-00c3 which is probably your northbridge controller. the three listed under it8718... are on the cpu packaging the two thermistors are in the cores, and the thermal diode is on the bus between the cores. the high temp on the second core (temp3) must be because you have a process running on that core
[22:54] <vortex> guntbert: isnt that easily crackable?
[22:54] <robinsch> i tried to install realtek audio drivers for linux and now I have no sound :(
[22:54] <guntbert> phill: sorry, tab 1: I had to select LZO, TCP and the port
[22:54] <guntbert> vortex: no
[22:55] <robinsch> I posted the issue on the forums but no replys
[22:55] <guntbert> vortex: it is a hash value
[22:55] <vortex> guntbert: hash valvue like md5 can be cracked with a simple rainbow table...
[22:55] <robinsch> anyone?
[22:56] <robinsch> can I go back to pre driver installation days?
[22:56] <george_> Guys, how can I remove an package that was unpacked but it's not configured?
[22:56] <Maimster> Sup peoples...
[22:57] <mediawork> escott: thank, I will have to process this a bit.
[22:57] <escott> vortex, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-August/026204.html
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> vortex: seems to be MD5
[22:57] <nRy> isn't there a simple command to start the vncserver?
[22:57] <vortex> yes escott ?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> vortex: it would take you a LONG time to crack
[22:57] <grz> 123
[22:57] <robinsch> 4 months
[22:57] <phill> guntbert,  still no luck, is it testing somehow the connection first and knows already that what I'm trying won't work?
[22:57] <nRy> I don't understand why it was working fine and I was connected into the remote server with TightVNC and then it just stopped working
[22:58] <vortex> ActionParsnip: i dont think it would... there are rainbow crackers online like milw0rm you just input the hash and in a day or so its cracked
[22:58] <escott> vortex, just read the link mine is evidently sha512, although to even read the file you have to be a member of root or shadow at which point...
[22:58] <phill> guntbert, alas need to go to supper now...
[22:58] <robinsch> I also upgraded to 11.04 and still the audio isn't working
[22:58] <guntbert> phill: Good luck :-)
[22:58] <vortex> thanks escott
[22:58] <rinkukokiri> vortex, ActionParsnip then theres the offchance it's already been matched...
[22:58] <robinsch> can I reinstall ubuntu to make audio work but keep all the other apps?
[22:59] <phill> guntbert, thanks for the help, will be back
[22:59] <vortex> if i encrtyped the root password in ubuntu with aes-256 would it break it?
[23:00] <rinkukokiri> vortex   root password in ubuntu??
[23:00] <rinkukokiri> what root password
[23:00] <escott> vortex, why are you worried about a rainbow attack? your /etc/shadow contents have to be leaked in the first place
[23:00] <rinkukokiri> !root
[23:00] <robinsch> root password hmm
[23:00] <robinsch> go in recovery mod
[23:01] <vortex> by default root is disable but i enabled my root
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> vortex: enabling root is neither recommended, needed or supported
[23:02] <Alphos> hi people
[23:02] <vortex> its not supported?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> vortex: no
[23:02] <rinkukokiri> not in here
[23:02] <vortex> there was a ubuntu wiki that showed how you enable it
[23:02] <escott> vortex, see man crypt
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> !noroot
[23:02] <Alphos> i've upgraded to 11.04 earlier today, and am having some sort of a problem with firefox : opening a link from another app will indeed load the page (in a new tab), but firefox doesn't come to the front
[23:03] <Somelauw> What is the package called that contains the sqlite3 libs?
[23:03] <rinkukokiri> curious
[23:03] <rinkukokiri> !wfm
[23:03] <rinkukokiri> aah
[23:03] <vortex> hah
[23:03] <Alphos> (eg clicking on a link in thunderbird or xchat)
[23:03] <escott> vortex, according to man crypt your choices do NOT include AES
[23:03] <vortex> thanks escott
[23:03] <escott> vortex, probably because its not a hash
[23:04] <rhin0> i had a problem where I hit a website (british telecom speed test) that crashed my browser -- firefox crashed twice then chrome crashed -- I run a dell inspiron m5010 with a crucial SSD 64gb  -- right after that the pc locked on boot -- now on complete software re-install I get pid 0 Comm swapper tainted -- black screen message right after loggin in -- is my machine wrecked
[23:04] <rhin0> ubuntu 11.04
[23:04] <rhin0> do I try to re-flash the bios?
[23:04] <rhin0> is the SSD wrecked?
[23:04] <Alphos> does anyone know how this could have happened ? any about:config entry i could find is irrelevant, which gets me to believe the system is responsible
[23:05] <mediawork> escott:  this is weird... there is really nothing much happening on my computer except for this irc client..
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[23:05] <rhin0> but it doesn't run
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: use a pastebin to host the text
[23:05] <rhin0> can't get in
[23:05] <rhin0> maybe I try to run it off a live disk
[23:05] <mediawork> escott: I have 4 cores... but only two thermistors...
[23:05] <rhin0> thats an idea -- to see if the ssd is a problem
[23:05] <mediawork> escott:   the 77 degree one is like that most of the time... and even goes well above 100 deg C when I am running something heavy...
[23:05] <rhin0> I can't believe that BRITISH TELECOM is hosting websites that crash PCs
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: boot to liveCD and you can test the SSD
[23:06] <rhin0> how can I test an ssd?
[23:06] <mediawork> escott:  Im thinking these thermal readings dont make much sense.
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: using fsck
[23:06] <rhin0> but I've don a compelte re-install on it twice
[23:06] <rhin0> ok
[23:06] <rhin0> i've never got fsck to work
[23:07] <rhin0> on reboot
[23:07] <rhin0> ok maybe it'll work from live cd
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you can't fsck a mounted partition without causing issues
[23:07] <escott> mediawork, 40 celsius is rather cool. its only 104 fahrenheit
[23:07] <escott> mediawork, that core is probably just turned off
[23:07] <rhin0> if it BOOTS off the live cd it's not running the SSD - so at least that has proved its the machine and not the SSD right?
[23:07] <rhin0> of course
[23:08] <rhin0> thanks very much parsnip of action
[23:08] <mediawork> escott: right ... and sometimes it 32... however the 75 deg one is weird... and going over 100 deg C is like boiling water... cant be right.
[23:08] <mediawork> escott:  Im thinking I should get my CPU replaced. maybe faulty..
[23:09] <Somelauw> What package do I need to install to fix the following error: Unable to find sqlite3 libs on your system, do you have sqlite3 installed?.  Stop.
[23:09] <Somelauw> I already installed sqlite3, but I think I need others too.
[23:10] <vec> tried a searvh on packages.ubuntu.com?
[23:10] <trism> Somelauw: probably libsqlite3-dev if you're compiling something
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: try:  apt-cache search sqlite | grep lib
[23:10] <escott> mediawork, most chips these days come two to a package so having 2 thermistors makes sense
[23:11] <Somelauw> trism: thanks, I installed libsqlite-dev first, but that didn't work. libsqlite3-dev worked.
[23:11] <escott> mediawork, and boiling temps is what these things are rated to handle
[23:11] <mediawork> escott: oh ok... so layered in two sandwitching a databus?
[23:11] <rinkukokiri> sandwitch?
[23:11] <rinkukokiri> nom nom
[23:11] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: thanks. I already solved it.
[23:12] <mediawork> escott: ehm... I think 75... is considered the temp where my AMD phenom II is supposed to burn out...
[23:12] <trism> Somelauw: yeah they are different libraries (well they have different database formats)
[23:12] <escott> mediawork, i havent seen a phenom structure diagram but thats how the intels are, and its a fairly common design
[23:12] <mediawork> escott: some cooling fan guy told me... I should not read more than 50 or 60 on full load with my heatsink..
[23:13] <dijonyummy123> anyone have virtualbox 4.08 latest sometimes lock up their ubuntu 10.10 when they start a vm recently? i notice this a bit recently not sure why even though i have just enough memory
[23:13] <escott> mediawork, the chip itself should have a kill switch and turn itself off if it gets too hot, but check the technical docs for your chip if you are worried
[23:13] <rinkukokiri> http://www.technibble.com/what-is-my-computers-maximum-cpu-temperature/
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> dijonyummy123: ask in #vbox too :)
[23:14] <dijonyummy123> yes i did
[23:14] <rinkukokiri> mediawork, what's your processor?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> dijonyummy123: cool
[23:14] <ingm> can anyone help with wireless am a newbie
[23:14] <AgentGreen> ?
[23:14] <AgentGreen> what about wireless
[23:15] <dijonyummy123> is there a easy to use chkdsk for linux, that can check ntfs and ext4 partition in case of abrupt shutdown? fsck i dont know how to use, something easier with maybe gui?
[23:15] <ingm> well i have 11.04 and it works with ethernet cable but nothing wireless, it worked with mint 8 no problem
[23:15] <escott> mediawork, its also possible that the scale is off, and you could try running whatever amd temperature utilities there are under windows to compare
[23:15] <AgentGreen> did you enable restricted drivers to allow the wireless card to work?
[23:15] <AgentGreen> sometimes its as simple as that
[23:16] <ingm> how do i do that
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> ingm: what is the output of:   sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> ingm: use http://pastebin.com  to host the text
[23:16] <dijonyummy123> how can i make a swap file for my ubuntu? i dont want to make a swap partition
[23:17] <AgentGreen> parsnip doesnt ubuntu by default restrict those?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> dijonyummy123: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> AgentGreen: restrict what?
[23:18] <rinkukokiri> mediawork, seems my Mobile Core 2 Duo is safe until	100°C
[23:18] <dijonyummy123> thanks ActionParsnip
[23:18] <dijonyummy123> i like xchat tab autocomplete handle-name
[23:18] <rinkukokiri> mediawork, http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Articles/CPU/CPU%20Temperatures.shtml    << more updated list
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> dijonyummy123: many irc clients do it ;)
[23:18] <Maylow> does anyone know how to enable chans 12 and 13 on a broadcom wl adapter?
[23:18] <dijonyummy123> just learned it 5 secs ago
[23:19] <AgentGreen> parsnip: restrict the proprietary wireless drivers?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> AgentGreen: they are available online annoyingly, but cannot be on the default ISO due to legalities (proprietary firmware etc)
[23:20] <AgentGreen> by enabling them do you think that could help ingm since they did a fresh install apparently?
[23:20] <Maylow> does anyone know how to enable channels 12 and 13 on a broadcom wl adapter?
[23:21] <rinkukokiri> heh amd's suck..
[23:21] <nRy> can someone please help me out and let me know the command for Ubuntu to restart the VNCserver?
[23:22] <debian2_> server irc-hispano.org
[23:22] <rinkukokiri> glad I got a pentium
[23:22] <rinkukokiri> er intel
[23:22] <badpenguin86> I need help enabling two finger right click on a synaptics trackpad
[23:24] <ingm80> what was it i had to type again for the wireless
[23:24] <the_file> is nautilus 3 designed to draw icons on the desktop like the last version?.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> the_file: is that part of gnome 3 per chance?
[23:25] <ImDexter> i need to manually edit a blue romboidal kind of file, those ones that if clicked will launch an application, I tried text editor, but it wont recognize the encoding, help please
[23:26] <Maylow> does anyone know how to enable channels 12 and 13 on a broadcom wl adapter?
[23:27] <chawka> I need help enabling desktop effects in ubuntu 11.04. when i change something in compizconfig settings nothing changes
[23:27] <escott> Maylow, you will probably have to get some binary firmware appropriate for your country and load that in. don't know how/don't know where/its not on the default install cds or any US servers
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Maylow: you may need to use iwconfig to set the channel
[23:27] <ingm80> hi have put the paste in pastebin
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> ingm80: ok, copy the address ni the address bar and paste it here
[23:28] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, there's a problem with the broadcom driver - it does not allow channels 12 and 13
[23:28] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, it's something related to the region
[23:28] <ingm80> sorry not used it before where is it?
[23:29] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, 12 and 13 are not allowed in the US
[23:29] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, but are used in Europe
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Maylow: I see, Wasn't aware of them (UK based here)
[23:29] <ingm80> could send it as a personal message
[23:29] <OerHeks> ingm80, press send and post the url here
[23:30] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, but I could not figure out how to make the driver accept the fact that I'm actually located in Europe
[23:30] <ingm80> http://pastebin.com/twH7DGkX
[23:30] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, none of the recommendations I found in google worked for me
[23:30] <escott> Maylow, my understanding of the broadcom driver is that it loads a binary blob that is cryptographically signed in some fashion that dictates the allowed channels
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> ingm80: ok looks good, if you run:  rfkill list     do you see any devices blocked?
[23:31] <escott> Maylow, you need to find a european version of that file, maybe from the broadcom website?
[23:31] <ingm80> so i type 'rfkill'
[23:32] <Maylow> escott, really? that sounds scary :) I will look into this, thanks
[23:32] <ingm80> this is what i get  http://pastebin.com/EC2pBUAj
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ingm80: did you run:   rfkill list
[23:33] <escott> Maylow, see http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#firmware
[23:33] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, do you have channels 12 and 13 allowed on your system?
[23:33] <ingm80> this is what i get            http://pastebin.com/EC2pBUAj
[23:34] <ingm80> opps wrong
[23:34] <ingm80> hang on
[23:35] <ingm80> sorry this is it        http://pastebin.com/GxVsN5C2
[23:35] <ingm80> wireless wan soft blocked ; yes
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Maylow: not sure, I havent messed with it that much
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> ingm80: ok do you have a shortcut key to enable / disable wireless?
[23:36] <ingm80> there is the switch on laptop that i am aware of and that is on
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> ingm80: if so, press it. If not then run:  sudo rfkill unblock all     then you should be able to find wireless networks
[23:38] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, a simple sudo iwlist eth1 channel (your wireless instead of eth1) will list all available channels
[23:38] <kekec> #connect irc.anonops.li
[23:39] <kekec> lol
[23:39] <ingm80> hmmm its not blocked now but nothing coming up
[23:39] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, I'm asking, because if you have 12 and 13, I could ask where did you get your drivers :)
[23:40] <ingm80> i'll reboot it in a bit and see what happens
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Maylow: i'm not at home to see, i'm at work so I can't check. Sorry
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Maylow: let me check then
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Maylow: i am ssh'd to my server
[23:43] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, 10x
[23:44] <ImDexter> how do I edit an executable file?
[23:44] <billy__> can anyone help ive tried installing eternal lands mmorpg through the terminal it didnt fully complete and got stuck now the games there but i cant open it
[23:45] <billy__> it also says when i try to open it dpkg --configure -a
[23:45] <iamaregee> hey i need help with nvidia gt 525m driver installation on dell N5110  machine running lucid.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Maylow: this is a mission. I purposefully crippled my wireless as I use wired on it now
[23:46] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, I c
[23:46] <dijonyummy123> if there a way to have linux do fsck on all ext4 partitions at startup instead of doing it all manually
[23:46] <Maylow> ActionParsnip, anyway, 10x :)
[23:46] <escott> dijonyummy, see man fstab
[23:46] <iamaregee> there is no sound and wireless is also not working .. : (
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Maylow: brb
[23:47] <talbert> what's the command to enable/disable the wireless card?
[23:48] <billy__> can anyone help ive tried installing eternal lands mmorpg through the terminal it didnt fully complete and got stuck now the games there but i cant open it, it just says dpkg --configure -a but when i try to run that it says i need to be a super-user
[23:48] <antivirtel> Hi! Please help me, answer my question: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14841/fail2ban-block-with-iptables-doesnt-work-on-debian-lenny !
[23:49] <talbert> is it simply 'ifconfig wlan0 down'
[23:49] <dijonyummy123>  anyone have problem installing tweetdeck desktop from website under win7 guest under ubuntu? i click install button on website and it just says installing but does nothing. been like this for a week now.
[23:49] <KM0201> billy__: are you using ubuntu?
[23:50] <billy__> KM0201, yep the newest install
[23:50] <escott> talbert, that takes down the network interface
[23:50] <KM0201> billy__: well, try putting "sudo" in front of that command, and see what happens
[23:50] <escott> talbert, if your intent is to reduce power consumption you might try removing the kernel module
[23:51]  * antivirtel is away: ~
[23:51] <freeeky> hi
[23:51] <billy__> KM0201, ive tried that but it says another application is using it it also says that dpkg is being used when i try to purge remove the game
[23:52] <KM0201> billy__: you ahve another application that is occupying root then, you need to find it and kill it (assuming you don't know what it is to just close it)
[23:52] <billy__> escott, the best way to reduce power consumption is to use your pc less
[23:52] <Airris> So um... it looks like I either didn't use checkinstall to install this thing from source, or somehow the package information got lost. How do i go about manually removing something?
[23:53] <dijonyummy123> escott: i see thanks, should i mark ntfs filesystems with 2 in fstab or is it dangerous for linux to check ntfs
[23:53] <escott> dijonyummy123, linux cannot fsck ntfs
[23:53] <dijonyummy123> i see thanks
[23:54] <billy__> KM0201, i just got a system message saying it couldnnt install the game then ran purge remove again and it couldnt find the file
[23:54] <billy__> KM0201, thanks for the help
[23:55] <talbert> escott, what about 'iwconfig' instead? i'm asking because i'm not sure if i'll mess something up doing this.
[23:57] <escott> talbert, i dont see anything in iwconfig to turn off the card, why do you want to do this again?
[23:58] <Maylow> escott, one good reason would be to save power, when you're not using it?
[23:58] <talbert> i'm working on a router hack and need to shut down the wireless card to make sure there is no traffic. it's really not important. just a learning exercise.
[23:59] <Johhnnyyy_B> Uh
[23:59] <Johhnnyyy_B> Hey?
[23:59] <rinkukokiri> command to check my cpu temp?
[23:59] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, is there something we can help you with?
[23:59] <Johhnnyyy_B> My friend told me about this program, ubluntu, so like... I get the file, but it wont install?