| Guest52825 | google said there's something called trickle | 00:02 |
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| DarkEra | Does somebody know how to switch forward and back when watching pic's in Ristretto? | 00:10 |
| Secris | Decided to try out xubuntu today | 02:20 |
| Secris | not sure if I am going to like it | 02:23 |
| === go8765432 is now known as go8765|away | ||
| Zoe | Hi, I have two problems. My XFCE menu has lost all it's entries, and also my applications have no menus of their own. Any ideas how to fix this? | 04:54 |
| GridCube | mmm | 05:06 |
| GridCube | thats weird | 05:06 |
| Zoe | yeah, they both are | 05:07 |
| GridCube | try running >alt-f2 >xfce4-panel -r >run and see what happens | 05:07 |
| Zoe | no | 05:07 |
| Zoe | didn't do anything :/ | 05:07 |
| GridCube | mmm | 05:08 |
| Zoe | does it still use an xfce-menu.xml? I ran across some mentions of that during googling | 05:09 |
| GridCube | mmm i don't know | 05:11 |
| GridCube | in ~/.config/menus | 05:11 |
| Zoe | hmmm, any idea what a .menu.undo is? | 05:12 |
| Zoe | I've got 160 of them | 05:12 |
| GridCube | i think they are old versions of your menu, you could try moving them to another folder and do xfce4-panel -r | 05:14 |
| GridCube | all of them | 05:14 |
| Zoe | and that did in fact do it | 05:15 |
| Zoe | that was an amazingly frustrating experiaence | 05:15 |
| Zoe | thank you for clearing it up | 05:15 |
| Zoe | any ideas about application menus maybe? | 05:15 |
| GridCube | what applications? | 05:16 |
| Zoe | oh, like I'm chatting through Xchat right now | 05:16 |
| Zoe | and usually it has like, file, server some menus on top | 05:16 |
| GridCube | press f9 | 05:16 |
| Zoe | no :( | 05:17 |
| GridCube | :( | 05:17 |
| Zoe | my pidgin is also missing it | 05:17 |
| GridCube | no other windows have borders? | 05:17 |
| GridCube | oh okay | 05:17 |
| Zoe | thunar | 05:17 |
| GridCube | you lack of window decorations | 05:17 |
| Zoe | I have decorations, as provided by emerald | 05:17 |
| Zoe | are menus and decorations put in by the same thing? | 05:17 |
| GridCube | yes | 05:18 |
| GridCube | thats the problem whit compiz related things | 05:18 |
| Zoe | :( switching to gtk decorator does nothing | 05:18 |
| GridCube | if you use compiz then do >alt-f2 >compiz --replace >run | 05:18 |
| GridCube | or >alt-f2 >xfwm4 --replace >run | 05:19 |
| Zoe | no change on any wm | 05:19 |
| GridCube | or >alt-f2 >metacity --replace >run | 05:19 |
| Zoe | nothing :( | 05:20 |
| GridCube | :( | 05:21 |
| GridCube | there is a fix for that | 05:21 |
| GridCube | let me find it | 05:21 |
| Zoe | ok | 05:21 |
| Zoe | so far, if I change the window decorator to gtk from emerald, it puts standard gtk window borders on | 05:21 |
| Zoe | switching to xfwm or metacity only removes compositing | 05:22 |
| GridCube | oh yes that will happen | 05:22 |
| GridCube | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/333780 | 05:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 333780 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "xfwm4 cannot provide window decorations in compiz" [Undecided,Fix released] | 05:25 |
| GridCube | Zoe, ^^^^^^^^^^ | 05:26 |
| Zoe | I'm reading it | 05:26 |
| GridCube | :D | 05:26 |
| Zoe | hmmm | 05:27 |
| Zoe | so, that's not a surprising result, you can't have two window managers at once | 05:29 |
| Zoe | but when I use the gtk window decorator provided by metacity, still no application menus | 05:29 |
| GridCube | Zoe, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/495361 | 05:32 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 495361 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "[Xubuntu] No window manager at startup" [Medium,Triaged] | 05:32 |
| Zoe | hmmm, is there a way to change users, without logging out? | 05:37 |
| Zoe | This bug doesn't sound like what I've got. I do have borders around windows, min/max buttons, window titles &c. | 05:40 |
| GridCube | ... | 05:40 |
| Zoe | I've got a window decorator running | 05:40 |
| GridCube | i see | 05:40 |
| Zoe | I'm very confused why it would not show the menus :/ | 05:42 |
| GridCube | :( | 05:46 |
| GridCube | im trying to find out | 05:47 |
| GridCube | i know this has happened to people before, but i don't remember how they fixed it | 05:47 |
| Zoe | I've only been able to google one mention | 05:47 |
| Zoe | unresolved :( | 05:47 |
| GridCube | :/ | 05:49 |
| GridCube | Zoe, could you ask on #xfce ? make your question precise enough to be understood and they will probably know how to fix this | 06:01 |
| Zoe | ok | 06:01 |
| Zoe | Thank you for your help | 06:01 |
| GridCube | im sorry but i think the problem is that we dont know the proper terms to do the search | 06:01 |
| GridCube | "menu bar" ain't gonna be it | 06:02 |
| Zoe | yeah, I have no idea what to call these, since application menu seems to refer to the panel as well | 06:02 |
| GridCube | sorry for not being of better help | 06:02 |
| GridCube | yes | 06:02 |
| GridCube | thats the problem im hitting on my searchs | 06:02 |
| Zoe | oh, you have been very helpful, thank you | 06:02 |
| Zoe | I have a working "application" menu now ^_^ | 06:02 |
| GridCube | :) | 06:02 |
| Zoe | Hi ^_^ | 06:32 |
| ball | What does Xubuntu use instead of .xinitrc to start the window manager etc? | 06:32 |
| ball | Hello Zoe :-) | 06:32 |
| pleia2 | in natty it uses the login manager gdm to launch, in the next release it'll use lightdm (just another login manager) | 06:33 |
| ball | pleia2: Oh. I don't know how to use that stuff. | 06:33 |
| ball | Just wanted to specify what got started. | 06:33 |
| Zoe | Is there a way to login as another user without ending the current session? | 06:33 |
| ball | (what calls gdm?) | 06:34 |
| pleia2 | gdm is run as a daemon that's started when the machine boots up | 06:34 |
| Zoe | gdm is called by upstart on runlevel 6, I believe | 06:34 |
| pleia2 | so: service gdm start | 06:34 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 06:34 |
| pleia2 | but not 6 :) | 06:34 |
| pleia2 | 6 is reboot | 06:34 |
| ball | Oh dear. This is all a bit alien to me then. | 06:34 |
| ball | I'll try killing Xfwm manually | 06:35 |
| ball | Hmm... something respawned it. | 06:35 |
| ball | Ah, got it | 06:36 |
| ball | Thanks pleia2 | 06:36 |
| pleia2 | glad you got it figured out :) | 06:37 |
| ball | pleia2: Clearly I have a lot of reading to do to figure Linux out. | 06:47 |
| ball | It's strange: I'm new to Linux even though I first installed it from 5.25" 1.2M floppies. | 06:47 |
| alx | I want to know how check if my Xu have MySQL already Installed??? | 08:04 |
| Sysi | try to install it, it will tell you if it's already there | 08:08 |
| Sysi | or search for mysql on synaptic | 08:08 |
| Unit193 | Or dpkg -l |grep sql :D | 08:08 |
| hatalar205 | Can anyone suggest a good rss reader | 09:37 |
| bazhang | !find pan | 09:50 |
| ubottu | Found: cmap-adobe-japan1, cmap-adobe-japan2, gir1.2-pango-1.0, libpango-perl, libpango1.0-0, libpango1.0-0-dbg, libpango1.0-dev, libpango1.0-doc, libpangomm-1.4-1, libpangomm-1.4-dbg (and 133 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pan&searchon=names&suite=natty§ion=all | 09:50 |
| bazhang | whoops | 09:50 |
| bazhang | !info pan | 09:50 |
| ubottu | pan (source: pan): A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.133-1.1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 775 kB, installed size 3392 kB | 09:50 |
| dubphil | hello, my nic is not supported by the ubuntu 11.04 kernel yet so I want to install packages from the cdrom, but xubuntu mount it automatically not in /media/cdrom , how can I make synaptic happy to find the cdrom ? | 09:50 |
| dubphil | I have tried ln -s /media/Xubuntu\\\ 11.04\\\ amd645 /media/cdrom but synaptic always tells unable to find the mount point /media/cdrom -stat , any idea ? | 09:52 |
| bazhang | dubphil, why not packages.ubuntu.com | 09:52 |
| Sysi | find out where it's mounted and point synaptic there? or isn't that possible | 09:53 |
| dubphil | bazhang: because I haven't got the network | 09:53 |
| bazhang | dubphil, how are you on irc | 09:54 |
| Sysi | download on other machine and move them with usb-stick, or cd | 09:54 |
| dubphil | bazhang: from another computer yes | 09:55 |
| bazhang | dubphil, see Sysi 's suggestion | 09:55 |
| dubphil | Syzi: ok I can do this but there is something broken with synaptic and Xubuntu | 09:56 |
| Sysi | shouldn't be, but possible | 09:57 |
| Sysi | (i don't use synaptic) | 09:57 |
| dubphil | Xubuntu mount directly the cdrom with a variable file name ie: /media/Xubuntu 11.04 amd64 then synaptic try to find it on /media/cdrom | 09:58 |
| Sysi | you can umount it and mount it where you want to | 09:59 |
| Sysi | sudo umount /path/there ; sudo mount /dev/cdrom (/sr?) mount -o loop -t iso9660 | 10:00 |
| dubphil | Sysi: what means /sr ? | 10:01 |
| Sysi | it can also be /dev/sr | 10:02 |
| dubphil | yeah cool it works thanks a lot ! | 10:04 |
| dubphil | I tried before to unmount, butr I had "device busy" | 10:04 |
| dubphil | now it's ok | 10:04 |
| dubphil | arf finally not it mounts but something unmount it directly | 10:06 |
| dubphil | after | 10:06 |
| dubphil | arf sudo apt-cdrom add resolve my issue | 10:10 |
| jacobmar1ey | There doesn't seem to be anything ongoing here. I'mma ask a question then. I'm running a clean install (not an upgrade) of natty on my EeePC 1015PEM. When I connect to a wireless network, the notification pops up. | 15:26 |
| jacobmar1ey | If I suspend and come back, when the notification pops up agian, there are TWO entries for "Do Not Show This Message Again" | 15:27 |
| jacobmar1ey | This keeps increasing until I reset the computer, and the notification gets so big it goes off the screen sometimes. Anyone else have this issue? | 15:27 |
| === t][s][o is now known as t_s_o | ||
| perelin | hi all | 16:26 |
| perelin | I was wondering how to get my thinkpads thinkvantage button to work with xfce | 16:26 |
| perelin | thinkwiki had no answer :( | 16:27 |
| perelin | any ideas? | 16:27 |
| jacobmar1ey | What would you like it to do? | 16:41 |
| jacobmar1ey | I'd run xev from a terminal to get the keycode from it, than just assign a command to that keycode | 16:42 |
| dvanstone | will xubuntu fit on a 4.3 g hdd ? | 16:52 |
| TheSheep | yes | 16:54 |
| TheSheep | you might need to use the laternate cd though | 16:54 |
| dvanstone | ok | 16:55 |
| TheSheep | alternate | 16:55 |
| dvanstone | I understood thanks | 16:55 |
| xubuntu825 | hello | 17:15 |
| xubuntu825 | amazing in on irc while xubuntu installing)) | 17:16 |
| ubuntu__ | hello :) | 21:09 |
| ubuntu__ | anyone there? | 21:09 |
| charlie-tca | !anyone | 21:11 |
| ubottu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 21:11 |
| ubuntu__ | someone is a smart ass | 21:27 |
| ubuntu__ | I need help getting a xubuntu live usb to install updates | 21:27 |
| IdleOne | watch the language please | 21:27 |
| ubuntu__ | Oh I wont swear | 21:28 |
| charlie-tca | If you don't ask a question, you won't get any help. Most of us gave up trying to guess long ago. | 21:28 |
| IdleOne | open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update; apt-get upgrade | 21:28 |
| ubuntu__ | I get not enough disk space | 21:29 |
| IdleOne | but if it is a live usb I am not sure what you are trying to update | 21:29 |
| ubuntu__ | I thought I was out to lunch there | 21:29 |
| IdleOne | those updates will not be there next time you boot | 21:29 |
| ubuntu__ | Thats my problem also | 21:29 |
| IdleOne | it isn't a problem it is intended behaviour | 21:29 |
| ubuntu__ | So the live usb is not a permanent os | 21:30 |
| IdleOne | I think what you probably want is a persistant USB but depending on the size of the usb you might still have the issue of not enough space | 21:30 |
| ubuntu__ | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/creating-an-xubuntu-live-usb-from-cd/ | 21:31 |
| ubuntu__ | I'm using a 300gig | 21:31 |
| IdleOne | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 21:31 |
| ubuntu__ | is that link the correct procedure for complete install on a usb | 21:32 |
| ubuntu__ | not live install? | 21:32 |
| IdleOne | that is for a live install - live install is like a test drive | 21:32 |
| ubuntu__ | right i don't want that | 21:33 |
| IdleOne | the link I gave you will show you how to make a "real" install where updates will be persistent accross reboots | 21:33 |
| ubuntu__ | will it be able to boot from another pc as well? | 21:33 |
| IdleOne | if that other pc can boot from USB yes | 21:34 |
| ubuntu__ | nice so it will do my updates and keep installed apps and also act live a live cd and will boot from any usb bootable pc | 21:34 |
| IdleOne | it will act like a real install on other pc's without touching the other pc's HDD | 21:35 |
| IdleOne | so yes anything you install will be saved | 21:36 |
| IdleOne | basically you will be able to take your Ubuntu anywhere and boot to it like you were home | 21:36 |
| ubuntu__ | thats what I want... will I have to format the hdd ... I can't fo that at this time | 21:37 |
| IdleOne | you will have to format the partition that Ubuntu is installed on I believe. | 21:39 |
| IdleOne | charlie-tca: ^^ | 21:39 |
| ubuntu__ | the usb drive is fat32 and the live usb install is on the only partition | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | You shouldn't have to format the hard drive to create the persistence USB drive | 21:40 |
| ubuntu__ | ic | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | You format the usb drive, right? | 21:40 |
| ubuntu__ | I origonally formatted to be used on a xbox | 21:40 |
| ubuntu__ | then later installed the live usb in it though windows | 21:41 |
| ubuntu__ | windows is the pc os on internal drive. still there | 21:41 |
| ubuntu__ | buggy though | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | so, yes, you will be formatting that drive. | 21:41 |
| ubuntu__ | friends pc and don't want to mess with the os | 21:41 |
| ubuntu__ | damn | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | I wouldn't either. You won't touch the internal drive, just the usb drive. | 21:42 |
| ubuntu__ | so the answer to the ultimate question is yes... I must format the usb drive to install a persistant ubuntu os... | 21:43 |
| IdleOne | the only drive being formatted is the USB one | 21:43 |
| ubuntu__ | i get that | 21:43 |
| IdleOne | correct | 21:43 |
| ubuntu__ | what about creating a ne partition | 21:43 |
| ubuntu__ | I would like to try and not disturb the files in the usb | 21:44 |
| ubuntu__ | well I'll hang on here for a bit for your opinion and thanks for your help... is there anything I can do to help your rating or say thanx soewhere for your hlp guys? | 21:48 |
| IdleOne | you just did :) | 21:50 |
| ubuntu__ | again thanx | 21:51 |
| ubuntu__ | I'm going to boot from cd and delete the live install on the usb drive | 21:52 |
| ubuntu__ | then see if I can partition the drive and install without disturbing the existing files | 21:52 |
| ubuntu__ | My names Dave and if I end up back here I'll use dave as a username so you can remember me | 21:53 |
| raevol | hmm, why is fmodex showing up in the notificationa rea for my sound input? | 23:59 |
| raevol | well, it's showing a volume control for my mic | 23:59 |
| raevol | but i have no idea why | 23:59 |
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