[00:02] google said there's something called trickle [00:10] Does somebody know how to switch forward and back when watching pic's in Ristretto? [02:20] Decided to try out xubuntu today [02:23] not sure if I am going to like it === go8765432 is now known as go8765|away [04:54] Hi, I have two problems. My XFCE menu has lost all it's entries, and also my applications have no menus of their own. Any ideas how to fix this? [05:06] mmm [05:06] thats weird [05:07] yeah, they both are [05:07] try running >alt-f2 >xfce4-panel -r >run and see what happens [05:07] no [05:07] didn't do anything :/ [05:08] mmm [05:09] does it still use an xfce-menu.xml? I ran across some mentions of that during googling [05:11] mmm i don't know [05:11] in ~/.config/menus [05:12] hmmm, any idea what a .menu.undo is? [05:12] I've got 160 of them [05:14] i think they are old versions of your menu, you could try moving them to another folder and do xfce4-panel -r [05:14] all of them [05:15] and that did in fact do it [05:15] that was an amazingly frustrating experiaence [05:15] thank you for clearing it up [05:15] any ideas about application menus maybe? [05:16] what applications? [05:16] oh, like I'm chatting through Xchat right now [05:16] and usually it has like, file, server some menus on top [05:16] press f9 [05:17] no :( [05:17] :( [05:17] my pidgin is also missing it [05:17] no other windows have borders? [05:17] oh okay [05:17] thunar [05:17] you lack of window decorations [05:17] I have decorations, as provided by emerald [05:17] are menus and decorations put in by the same thing? [05:18] yes [05:18] thats the problem whit compiz related things [05:18] :( switching to gtk decorator does nothing [05:18] if you use compiz then do >alt-f2 >compiz --replace >run [05:19] or >alt-f2 >xfwm4 --replace >run [05:19] no change on any wm [05:19] or >alt-f2 >metacity --replace >run [05:20] nothing :( [05:21] :( [05:21] there is a fix for that [05:21] let me find it [05:21] ok [05:21] so far, if I change the window decorator to gtk from emerald, it puts standard gtk window borders on [05:22] switching to xfwm or metacity only removes compositing [05:22] oh yes that will happen [05:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/333780 [05:25] Ubuntu bug 333780 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "xfwm4 cannot provide window decorations in compiz" [Undecided,Fix released] [05:26] Zoe, ^^^^^^^^^^ [05:26] I'm reading it [05:26] :D [05:27] hmmm [05:29] so, that's not a surprising result, you can't have two window managers at once [05:29] but when I use the gtk window decorator provided by metacity, still no application menus [05:32] Zoe, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/495361 [05:32] Ubuntu bug 495361 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "[Xubuntu] No window manager at startup" [Medium,Triaged] [05:37] hmmm, is there a way to change users, without logging out? [05:40] This bug doesn't sound like what I've got. I do have borders around windows, min/max buttons, window titles &c. [05:40] ... [05:40] I've got a window decorator running [05:40] i see [05:42] I'm very confused why it would not show the menus :/ [05:46] :( [05:47] im trying to find out [05:47] i know this has happened to people before, but i don't remember how they fixed it [05:47] I've only been able to google one mention [05:47] unresolved :( [05:49] :/ [06:01] Zoe, could you ask on #xfce ? make your question precise enough to be understood and they will probably know how to fix this [06:01] ok [06:01] Thank you for your help [06:01] im sorry but i think the problem is that we dont know the proper terms to do the search [06:02] "menu bar" ain't gonna be it [06:02] yeah, I have no idea what to call these, since application menu seems to refer to the panel as well [06:02] sorry for not being of better help [06:02] yes [06:02] thats the problem im hitting on my searchs [06:02] oh, you have been very helpful, thank you [06:02] I have a working "application" menu now ^_^ [06:02] :) [06:32] Hi ^_^ [06:32] What does Xubuntu use instead of .xinitrc to start the window manager etc? [06:32] Hello Zoe :-) [06:33] in natty it uses the login manager gdm to launch, in the next release it'll use lightdm (just another login manager) [06:33] pleia2: Oh. I don't know how to use that stuff. [06:33] Just wanted to specify what got started. [06:33] Is there a way to login as another user without ending the current session? [06:34] (what calls gdm?) [06:34] gdm is run as a daemon that's started when the machine boots up [06:34] gdm is called by upstart on runlevel 6, I believe [06:34] so: service gdm start [06:34] yeah [06:34] but not 6 :) [06:34] 6 is reboot [06:34] Oh dear. This is all a bit alien to me then. [06:35] I'll try killing Xfwm manually [06:35] Hmm... something respawned it. [06:36] Ah, got it [06:36] Thanks pleia2 [06:37] glad you got it figured out :) [06:47] pleia2: Clearly I have a lot of reading to do to figure Linux out. [06:47] It's strange: I'm new to Linux even though I first installed it from 5.25" 1.2M floppies. [08:04] I want to know how check if my Xu have MySQL already Installed??? [08:08] try to install it, it will tell you if it's already there [08:08] or search for mysql on synaptic [08:08] Or dpkg -l |grep sql :D [09:37] Can anyone suggest a good rss reader [09:50] !find pan [09:50] Found: cmap-adobe-japan1, cmap-adobe-japan2, gir1.2-pango-1.0, libpango-perl, libpango1.0-0, libpango1.0-0-dbg, libpango1.0-dev, libpango1.0-doc, libpangomm-1.4-1, libpangomm-1.4-dbg (and 133 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pan&searchon=names&suite=natty§ion=all [09:50] whoops [09:50] !info pan [09:50] pan (source: pan): A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.133-1.1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 775 kB, installed size 3392 kB [09:50] hello, my nic is not supported by the ubuntu 11.04 kernel yet so I want to install packages from the cdrom, but xubuntu mount it automatically not in /media/cdrom , how can I make synaptic happy to find the cdrom ? [09:52] I have tried ln -s /media/Xubuntu\\\ 11.04\\\ amd645 /media/cdrom but synaptic always tells unable to find the mount point /media/cdrom -stat , any idea ? [09:52] dubphil, why not packages.ubuntu.com [09:53] find out where it's mounted and point synaptic there? or isn't that possible [09:53] bazhang: because I haven't got the network [09:54] dubphil, how are you on irc [09:54] download on other machine and move them with usb-stick, or cd [09:55] bazhang: from another computer yes [09:55] dubphil, see Sysi 's suggestion [09:56] Syzi: ok I can do this but there is something broken with synaptic and Xubuntu [09:57] shouldn't be, but possible [09:57] (i don't use synaptic) [09:58] Xubuntu mount directly the cdrom with a variable file name ie: /media/Xubuntu 11.04 amd64 then synaptic try to find it on /media/cdrom [09:59] you can umount it and mount it where you want to [10:00] sudo umount /path/there ; sudo mount /dev/cdrom (/sr?) mount -o loop -t iso9660 [10:01] Sysi: what means /sr ? [10:02] it can also be /dev/sr [10:04] yeah cool it works thanks a lot ! [10:04] I tried before to unmount, butr I had "device busy" [10:04] now it's ok [10:06] arf finally not it mounts but something unmount it directly [10:06] after [10:10] arf sudo apt-cdrom add resolve my issue [15:26] There doesn't seem to be anything ongoing here. I'mma ask a question then. I'm running a clean install (not an upgrade) of natty on my EeePC 1015PEM. When I connect to a wireless network, the notification pops up. [15:27] If I suspend and come back, when the notification pops up agian, there are TWO entries for "Do Not Show This Message Again" [15:27] This keeps increasing until I reset the computer, and the notification gets so big it goes off the screen sometimes. Anyone else have this issue? === t][s][o is now known as t_s_o [16:26] hi all [16:26] I was wondering how to get my thinkpads thinkvantage button to work with xfce [16:27] thinkwiki had no answer :( [16:27] any ideas? [16:41] What would you like it to do? [16:42] I'd run xev from a terminal to get the keycode from it, than just assign a command to that keycode [16:52] will xubuntu fit on a 4.3 g hdd ? [16:54] yes [16:54] you might need to use the laternate cd though [16:55] ok [16:55] alternate [16:55] I understood thanks [17:15] hello [17:16] amazing in on irc while xubuntu installing)) [21:09] hello :) [21:09] anyone there? [21:11] !anyone [21:11] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [21:27] someone is a smart ass [21:27] I need help getting a xubuntu live usb to install updates [21:27] watch the language please [21:28] Oh I wont swear [21:28] If you don't ask a question, you won't get any help. Most of us gave up trying to guess long ago. [21:28] open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update; apt-get upgrade [21:29] I get not enough disk space [21:29] but if it is a live usb I am not sure what you are trying to update [21:29] I thought I was out to lunch there [21:29] those updates will not be there next time you boot [21:29] Thats my problem also [21:29] it isn't a problem it is intended behaviour [21:30] So the live usb is not a permanent os [21:30] I think what you probably want is a persistant USB but depending on the size of the usb you might still have the issue of not enough space [21:31] http://www.pendrivelinux.com/creating-an-xubuntu-live-usb-from-cd/ [21:31] I'm using a 300gig [21:31] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [21:32] is that link the correct procedure for complete install on a usb [21:32] not live install? [21:32] that is for a live install - live install is like a test drive [21:33] right i don't want that [21:33] the link I gave you will show you how to make a "real" install where updates will be persistent accross reboots [21:33] will it be able to boot from another pc as well? [21:34] if that other pc can boot from USB yes [21:34] nice so it will do my updates and keep installed apps and also act live a live cd and will boot from any usb bootable pc [21:35] it will act like a real install on other pc's without touching the other pc's HDD [21:36] so yes anything you install will be saved [21:36] basically you will be able to take your Ubuntu anywhere and boot to it like you were home [21:37] thats what I want... will I have to format the hdd ... I can't fo that at this time [21:39] you will have to format the partition that Ubuntu is installed on I believe. [21:39] charlie-tca: ^^ [21:40] the usb drive is fat32 and the live usb install is on the only partition [21:40] You shouldn't have to format the hard drive to create the persistence USB drive [21:40] ic [21:40] You format the usb drive, right? [21:40] I origonally formatted to be used on a xbox [21:41] then later installed the live usb in it though windows [21:41] windows is the pc os on internal drive. still there [21:41] buggy though [21:41] so, yes, you will be formatting that drive. [21:41] friends pc and don't want to mess with the os [21:41] damn [21:42] I wouldn't either. You won't touch the internal drive, just the usb drive. [21:43] so the answer to the ultimate question is yes... I must format the usb drive to install a persistant ubuntu os... [21:43] the only drive being formatted is the USB one [21:43] i get that [21:43] correct [21:43] what about creating a ne partition [21:44] I would like to try and not disturb the files in the usb [21:48] well I'll hang on here for a bit for your opinion and thanks for your help... is there anything I can do to help your rating or say thanx soewhere for your hlp guys? [21:50] you just did :) [21:51] again thanx [21:52] I'm going to boot from cd and delete the live install on the usb drive [21:52] then see if I can partition the drive and install without disturbing the existing files [21:53] My names Dave and if I end up back here I'll use dave as a username so you can remember me [23:59] hmm, why is fmodex showing up in the notificationa rea for my sound input? [23:59] well, it's showing a volume control for my mic [23:59] but i have no idea why