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sheytanvalorie it's 112 in europe, we in Poland even have 3 different number for ER, fire brigade and police :D00:00
valoriesheesh00:01
sheytanso, if apacheloggers isin't present, the i'll show you something00:01
sheytanhe will miss that amazing stuff ;d00:01
sheytanhttp://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9408/choose2.png kaboom00:01
sheytanhttp://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3743/login2n.png00:01
sheytanway better then yesterday :D00:01
valoriebeautiful!00:01
sheytanyeah!00:01
valorieI like the time&date down there better00:02
sheytanand this one will be the default for Kubuntu. I must be :D00:02
yofelwell, police is 110 here, though for the sake of EU unification you can get the police from 112 too00:02
sheytanyou'll vote for me valorie, right? :D00:02
valorieyou need votes?00:02
sheytanjust in case ;d00:02
valorieI'm not seeing a diff between the two?00:03
sheytanyou mean?00:03
valoriebetween your two links -- they look identical when I switch between them00:07
sheytanvalorie, impossible. wait00:11
sheytanvalorie http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2011/06/lightdm-makieta.html00:11
cjohnstonJontheEchidna: seems good00:11
sheytanwith english version, extra for you guys ;)00:11
valorieah!00:12
valorieI din't get the login one00:12
valoriesomehow00:12
valorieI like the grayed out, above00:12
valorievery cool00:13
sheytanyeah, it shows more which user was choosen :D00:13
JontheEchidnainteresting names :P00:13
sheytanJontheEchidna: hah, i took them, with the avatars from the default lightdm theme (if it's not only a mockup still)00:14
JontheEchidnaI feel sorry for Dick Worrhing00:14
sheytanso, apachelogger will have a nice suprise when he wokes up ;D00:14
sheytani'm going to sleep, it's really time for me now.00:15
sheytanbye all :)00:15
shadeslayerthats so fancy00:18
JontheEchidnahaha, my dog just chomped a mosquito out of mid-air00:44
yofelyour dog should become an ninja and package stuff00:48
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DarkwingDuckcjohnston: Pong04:13
cjohnstonsir04:13
DarkwingDuckcjohnston: I just noticed the ping and querry04:16
cjohnstonit seems like it is stable now04:16
cjohnstonwhat number would you like04:16
DarkwingDuckHmmz?04:17
cjohnstonoh.. sorry DarkwingDuck 04:18
cjohnstoni thought you were Jon.. :-/ I need to go to bed04:18
cjohnstonwas point out earlier the issues with the blueprints that you were tied to a bunch of them04:18
cjohnstonI believe all kubuntu stuff is now working on status.ubuntu.com04:19
* DarkwingDuck nods04:20
DarkwingDuckYeah, I've got to fix a few of these blueprints04:23
valoriebig earthquake in Italy04:23
valorie7.704:23
valorie:(04:23
valoriehttp://w3.gdacs.org/reports.asp?ID=10984604:24
valoriegood lord, who is that crazy David Wonderly with 15 items to do?04:28
valorieus Kubuntu Members have some work too04:29
cjohnstonwhen you take a task, change it from kubuntu-members to yourself04:29
valoriesome stuff like blogging will be hard to match up to that 04:30
valorieuntil someone just marks it DONE04:30
valoriesince harald has blogging, more blogging, microblogging, plus some blogging04:31
cjohnstonya.. my suggestion would be to clean up some of the blogging stuff.. like the blogging more blogging even more blogging stuff is kinda overboard...04:31
valoriefor all of us04:31
valorie"overboard"04:31
valoriethat's the definition of Harald!04:31
valorielol04:31
cjohnstonjust leave it assigned to kubuntu memebrs, when the first person blogs mark in progress, at the end of the cycle mark done04:31
jussiapachelogger: wake up!! 07:49
* micahg waves to jussi 07:52
jussio/ micahg07:52
fabodebfx: isn't it premature to close bug 785433 ?09:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 785433 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Touch end events not handled" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78543309:19
faboI expected an improved patch as suggested by upstream09:19
=== Earthwings_ is now known as Earthwings
debfxfabo: well that comment was added after the package was uploaded but I agree it should be re-opened10:39
Quintasan\o10:59
nigelbo/11:08
jussiapachelogger: pingaling11:16
jussiQuintasan: got your board yet? 11:16
QuintasanNope11:16
jussibah11:16
jussiany progress? 11:16
QuintasanWaiting for payment confirmation from Slowscale11:17
jussibut you have spoken to them? 11:17
Quintasanthree times11:19
Quintasantwo services requests were closed11:19
Quintasanand one is still unassigned11:19
jussiQuintasan: lol11:19
jussistupid11:20
* Quintasan shakes fists at meego11:20
Quintasanjussi: upstream includes debian/ in source @_@11:20
yofelo/11:21
Quintasanyofel: \o11:21
jussiQuintasan:heh11:21
yofelwhich upstream?11:21
QuintasanMeego11:21
QuintasanMalitit keyboard to be exact11:22
jussiIm just grumbling at freescale for sending both me and Harald dud cards11:22
yofelfor what do they package? etch :D ?11:22
QuintasanFFS11:29
Quintasanfcking qmake11:29
* Quintasan tries to reuse upstream packaging11:29
shadeslayer\o11:45
faboyofel: maemo11:52
yofelah11:52
shadeslayerhey fabo11:52
Quintasanshadeslayer: \o11:53
* yofel notes that there's still enough for everyone on the 4.7 packaging list11:53
shadeslayer^^11:53
Quintasanapachelogger: How important are malitit packages?11:53
shadeslayersomeone willing to finish up KDE PIM?11:53
shadeslayerbecause i can't get the headers to compile 11:53
yofelI could look at it after my headache from looking at smoke is gone11:54
* Quintasan kills qmake11:55
bulldog98Quintasan: the Qt guy do that too :)11:55
QuintasanFFS11:55
Quintasanbulldog98: Do what?11:55
QuintasanKill QMake?11:55
bulldog98Quintasan: yes11:56
bulldog98they’ll switch to something else11:56
yofelseriously?11:57
yofel\o/11:57
Quintasan\o/11:57
shadeslayerwhen did that happen?11:57
bulldog98yofel: one of the Qt guys told me they want to switch for Qt511:58
QuintasanWhat, are you not satisfied with it shadeslayer?11:58
yofelwell, at least some things that happen are good11:58
bulldog98they don’t know if that’ll be cmake or something else11:58
shadeslayerQuintasan: i haven't seen anything on the interwebz about the switch11:59
* yofel hopes not autotools...11:59
* Quintasan votes for cmake11:59
shadeslayerif they do, awesome11:59
* bulldog98 too11:59
shadeslayeryofel: oh crap, not autotools11:59
QuintasanFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-11:59
shadeslayerworse than qmake11:59
shadeslayeri don't know how the GNOME guys live with it11:59
Quintasan>GNOME12:00
Quintasanno12:00
Quintasandon't even mention that name12:00
shadeslayerxD12:00
shadeslayeryofel: i'll fix up the changelog and document other stuff, then you can take over12:00
shadeslayerfor PIM12:00
yofelk12:00
Quintasanyofel: http://paste.kde.org/8108512:01
Quintasanany idea?12:01
* Quintasan sometimes hates new dh12:01
yofel/bin/sh: ./gen-tests-xml.sh: Permission denied ?12:01
Quintasanyeah12:01
shadeslayeryeah thats what i'm thinking as well12:01
yofelsure it's +x ?12:02
shadeslayerQuintasan: disable tests?12:02
Quintasanshadeslayer: protip12:02
Quintasanoverride_dh_auto_test should do it12:02
Quintasanempty override12:02
shadeslayerQuintasan: does this go into main?12:03
Quintasanhmm, probably12:03
Quintasansince we want it as a keyboard for Plasma Active12:03
shadeslayerthen don't disable it12:03
Quintasandefault Plasma virtual keyboard is not good enough12:03
shadeslayerwill probably be bought up in the MIR 12:03
Quintasantests fail anyways12:03
QuintasanI will deal with them later12:03
Quintasanhmm12:06
Quintasanworks when I +x it in the source tree12:06
jussishadeslayer: hows my blink going? 12:07
shadeslayerjussi: finishing up kde pim, will start on it in 30 minutes12:07
Quintasanshadeslayer: reuse upstream packaging12:08
jussiexcellent!!12:08
Quintasanit's mostly done12:08
shadeslayerQuintasan: there were some other deps right12:08
Quintasanshadeslayer: You will have to get py-sipsimple into our repos first12:08
QuintasanAnd then getting blink should be easy12:08
QuintasanTry getting it into Debian later12:08
shadeslayeris it in debian?12:08
shadeslayerhmm12:09
QuintasanIt is not12:09
QuintasanAFAIK12:09
Quintasanapachelogger: Maltit is halfway done, I can't get tests to work12:19
Quintasancjohnston: How often are the burndown graphs refreshed?12:22
shadeslayeryofel: packaging pushed to lp:~rohangarg/kdepim/ubuntu 12:37
yofelthat's 4.4?12:37
shadeslayeror rather will be in a second12:37
shadeslayeryofel: 4.4.11 12:37
yofelk12:37
shadeslayerneed to delete older branch12:37
shadeslayerkdone12:39
yofelhm, should I keep the old kdebindings changelog in the new smokegen package?12:40
shadeslayeronto blink now12:40
shadeslayerQuintasan: burndown graphs?12:46
shadeslayerQuintasan: btw maltit has its own git repo and everything now12:49
yofelshadeslayer: burndown graphs: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/12:50
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://wiki.meego.com/Maliit/Viva_la_Revolution12:50
shadeslayeryofel: fancy12:51
shadeslayeryofel: also ... ew flash12:52
yofelflash? didn't notice...12:53
shadeslayeryeah ff shows a nice flash block button on the image12:53
shadeslayerQuintasan: i might have to package all of these : http://download.ag-projects.com/SipClient/12:56
shadeslayerhmm ... xcaplib and msrplib are not in the archives12:57
=== vHanda_ is now known as vHanda
shadeslayerQuintasan: around?13:12
shadeslayerjussi: can you file packaging requests for python-msrplib , python-xcaplib and python-sipsimple ?13:28
apacheloggerjussi: you realize you told me to wake up at 9 :O13:29
apacheloggerare you mad?13:29
apacheloggerQuintasan: not as important, seeing as we do not have 4.7 and the new plasma-mobile/active rolled on annoy-rick yet13:30
apacheloggerthough once we have it becomes critical ;)13:30
Quintasanshadeslayer: going to eat now13:30
Quintasansomething urgent?13:30
shadeslayerQuintasan: sure, MoDaX answered my question anyways13:30
apacheloggersheytan: I like like like like like13:31
apacheloggernow if I found the time to make that a qml mockup :S13:31
apacheloggerg13:31
shadeslayerapachelogger: poke http://paste.kde.org/80971/13:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: i generated that using qdbusxml2cpp ... but in the constructor it does not connect to the dbus interface first, should i hand edit that?13:34
apacheloggergetting a db error13:34
shadeslayersigh13:34
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/625142/13:35
apacheloggersheytan: what do I see there?13:36
shadeslayertabfail? :D13:36
apacheloggeryes13:36
apacheloggeryou two are killing me13:36
shadeslayerhahaha13:36
apacheloggerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adapter_pattern13:37
apacheloggerread and understand why it does not connect to the debus interface13:37
apachelogger*dbus even13:37
* shadeslayer looks13:37
cjohnstonQuintasan: at :33 after14:03
Quintasancjohnston: Make it :37 :P14:04
Quintasan13:3714:04
cjohnstonwhy14:04
cjohnstonjust cause14:04
cjohnstonlol14:04
mfraz74Is akonadi-facebook going to be packaged for 11.10?14:04
=== valorie_ is now known as valorie
sheytanapachelogger glad you like it. I wish to have some nature wallpapers default in kubuntu, but KDE won't do that :(14:28
apacheloggersheytan: http://i.imgur.com/DgCSC.png14:29
apacheloggerall done14:29
sheytanapachelogger great! Keep working on it. Oneric will rock even more :D14:30
* apachelogger does not plan on working on it :P14:30
apacheloggerjust playing around with qml14:31
sheytanapachelogger any body does?14:31
apacheloggersheytan: not if you do not send it to the mailing list :P14:32
sheytanapachelogger can you do that? I unsubscribed from. :)14:34
TJBhi14:39
TJBi have a question14:39
TJBwhy can't GNOME and KDE just merge14:39
TJBit's annoying having apps made for GNOME and apps made for KDE14:39
QuintasanTJB: Ha, ask GNOME ;)14:41
bigbrovarhi guys  which package replaced kde-devel on Kubuntu 11.04? 14:41
yofelshadeslayer: erm, re kdepim...14:43
Quintasan!info kde-devel14:43
ubottuPackage kde-devel does not exist in natty14:43
Quintasan!info kde-devel maverick14:43
ubottuPackage kde-devel does not exist in maverick14:43
Quintasanbigbrovar: ^14:43
yofelIIRC that has been gone for quite a while14:43
QuintasanDid you mean kde-sc-dev-latest?14:44
yofelshadeslayer: you have a debian/patches/debian-changes-4\:4.4.11.1+l10n-0ubuntu1 which reverts the install patch...14:44
yofelhm, no, I have that here14:45
bigbrovarQuintasan: Well am just looking for a way to setup kde build environment (trying to build the latest amarok from git)  before I use a metapackaged named kde-devel, but it seems to be missing on kubuntu 11.0414:45
Quintasanbigbrovar: hmmm, sudo apt-get build-dep amarok14:45
yofelhm...14:46
bigbrovarQuintasan: thanks, I wonder why i didnt even think of that before. :p 14:46
Quintasanbigbrovar: We also have Project Neon if you want to run MASTER KDE14:46
apacheloggersheytan: http://i.imgur.com/UuAVu.png14:47
apacheloggerlook how beautiful14:47
bigbrovarQuintasan: em, I think I would pass. Just wanna test run the latest amarok :p14:47
* yofel reminds Quintasan that amarok doesn't build in neon14:47
shadeslayeryofel: hehe14:47
shadeslayeryofel: dude, grab a clean tarball14:48
yofelshadeslayer: this is freakin confusing..14:48
* Quintasan reminds yofel that Amarok wants qtscriptgenerator14:48
shadeslayerthe one from debian is no good14:48
sheytanapachelogger does squers, mmmm, amazing :)14:48
yofelI know... to much todo -.-14:48
yofelshadeslayer: why?14:48
shadeslayeryofel: the one from debian has l10n stuff14:48
shadeslayerwhich we don't need14:48
yofelwhy not just put that into not-installed?14:48
yofelthen agian...14:48
yofelcp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/include/libkleopatraclient/core/command.h': No such file or directory14:49
yofel*sigh*14:49
shadeslayeryes14:49
shadeslayeryofel: i have the fixed install files for that, but14:49
shadeslayerthat file *should* be installed14:49
shadeslayerand if you notice, its only kleopatra which has these issues14:50
yofelit even has the install command in CMakeLists.txt, wtf...14:51
* sheytan must admit he is proud of his lightdm mockup14:51
QuintasanDem squares14:51
shadeslayeryep14:51
shadeslayeryofel: i have no idea whats happening there14:51
apacheloggersheytan: http://i.imgur.com/2hOac.png14:51
apacheloggergetting there14:52
apacheloggeryou knwo14:52
shadeslayerlol14:52
apacheloggeryou really could do this yourself14:52
sheytanapachelogger i hate to code. Really14:52
apacheloggerthat is not coding14:53
sheytanit doesn't give me this feeling i have when gimping14:53
apacheloggeryou define your UI14:53
apacheloggernothing more than that14:53
apacheloggermake a canvas here14:53
apacheloggerput an item in there14:53
apacheloggeradd a rect that is blue and put a text beneath it14:53
apacheloggeradd another item at the bottom, put a row of date and time in there, draw a rect of height 1 and below it a row of 3 rects with diffrerent colors14:54
apacheloggerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/625190/14:54
Quintasanapachelogger: instead of typing that, do what sheytan tells you to do :P14:54
Quintasanwill be faster :P14:54
apacheloggermost boring thing ever14:54
apacheloggeralso row gives you the ability to define an animation as things get add/removed (which would then be the selection of a user)14:54
sheytanapachelogger no thank you :D14:55
apacheloggernothign exciting to see,please move on14:55
apacheloggeractually getting a more sexy drop shadow for the text might require a develop0r14:55
Quintasanapachelogger: It involves Pyth0rn?14:55
sheytani don't think so ;d14:55
yofelshadeslayer: may I hit you?14:56
yofel-- NO usable assuan found for Kleopatra14:56
shadeslayerO_O14:56
* Quintasan hands yofel a hammer14:56
QuintasanThere you go, Sir.14:56
yofeland libkleopartaclient is only build with that condition14:56
* shadeslayer grabs a fez14:56
shadeslayersigh14:57
Quintasanshadeslayer: Who the hell taught you to read build log :P14:57
shadeslayerlol14:57
apacheloggerall the exams must have caused permanent damage, so he forgot again14:57
yofellol14:57
QuintasanI sense that apachelogger was responsible for part of shadeslayer's training14:58
shadeslayeryofel: one other thing, libindicate-qt-dev is set as Not found15:00
QuintasanI and yofel == Recommends: reading-logs (>= 1.0)15:00
Quintasanshadeslayer: ^15:00
shadeslayerindeed15:01
yofelheh15:01
yofelnot sure what's wrong with indicate yet15:01
sheytanapachelogger: so will you put this mockup on the mailing list?15:01
sheytanfor me ;D15:02
shadeslayeryofel: btw if you took debians packaging + debians tarball, you'd get a shit load of mo files in the install files that you would have to get rid of manually15:03
yofelwhich I currently did, I'll rather find the issues and let you fix them :P15:03
shadeslayerhehe15:03
shadeslayeri just copied over the install files from our old packaging15:04
shadeslayeryofel: you deleted each one of them by hand? :O15:05
yofelshadeslayer: let me rephrase that to:  I didn't even get as far as bothering about that yet15:05
shadeslayerheh15:05
shadeslayerE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).15:07
shadeslayergreat15:07
yofellibindicate-qt-dev seems to need pkg-config15:07
yofelwonder why that worked before15:07
shadeslayeryofel: uhm : W: GPG error: http://localhost oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F0FB9482DA96D7C515:08
yofelin pbuilder?15:08
shadeslayeryes15:08
yofelI probably didn't add the key15:08
yofelpbuilder should ignore it anyway15:08
yofelyeah, installing pkg-config helps for indicate-qt15:09
yofelnow back to assuan...15:09
shadeslayeralright15:09
shadeslayeryofel: i think we have to install libassuan2-dev15:09
shadeslayerbut i can't test since i'm now getting unmet deps15:10
yofellibassuan-dev 2.0 Breaks libassuan2-dev15:10
yofellatter has a removal request 15:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: plz put sheytan's mockup on the ml15:11
yofelwth, does 'vanilla' flavour even mean...15:11
shadeslayerdidn't you do that already?15:11
shadeslayeryofel: icecream? :D15:12
yofelnah, my icecc setup is broken here15:12
yofel:P15:12
shadeslayer^_^15:13
apacheloggerI think I am too stupid for qml models :O15:14
yofelhm, maybe the point is that I'm building for O15:15
* yofel builds for natty15:15
shadeslayerdone15:16
shadeslayerdarn15:17
jussiapachelogger: can has image ?15:21
apacheloggersee friendface comment15:21
apacheloggersheytan: can you qml export your mock15:21
sheytanapachelogger sec15:22
apacheloggeror at least manually export all them pictures?15:22
shadeslayeryofel: did it build fine for natty?15:24
yofelno, missing build-deps15:24
shadeslayer@_@15:24
shadeslayerah15:24
shadeslayeryofel: probably boost15:24
yofelright15:25
shadeslayeryeah i bumped that for oneiric15:25
jussishadeslayer: wow. looks like they did some updating... there are natty repos here o.O http://sipsimpleclient.com/wiki/SipInstallation15:25
yofelwell, if that builds for natty now we can take the packaging and go straight to 4.6 for O15:26
shadeslayerjussi: ok, so what do you want me to do now :P15:26
yofelgeh15:26
jussishadeslayer: get it into debian! :D15:26
* yofel adds natty-backports to pbuilder15:27
shadeslayerjussi: yeah i'm working on them15:27
sheytanapachelogger http://www.sendspace.com/file/6rnndg15:28
* sheytan feels weak. Need coffee15:28
sheytancoffee + apple cake = win!15:37
yofelshadeslayer: builds fine in natty15:38
yofelwell, the cmake part at least15:38
shadeslayeroh15:38
* sheytan dissapears for a while15:38
yofelwonder what's wrong with our libassuan2, although kdepim 4.6 doesn't complain about it15:39
shadeslayerjussi: whats your email id?15:43
jussishadeslayer: for blink? or? 15:43
shadeslayerfor blink15:44
shadeslayeri'm sending a email to their mailing list15:44
jussijussi01 at sip2sip15:44
jussioh wait15:44
jussijussi at jussi01 dot com15:44
shadeslayerokay xD15:44
jussiI thought you wanted to try call me15:44
shadeslayerlol15:44
jussi(which would be nice to test15:44
shadeslayeri actually need someone to test file transfers on tp15:45
shadeslayersince they apparently fixed that15:45
apacheloggergreat15:45
apacheloggernow my sheytan is gone15:45
jussishadeslayer: i cant seem to make the damn thing apply changes to setting though.15:45
apacheloggermeh15:45
shadeslayerjussi: for blink?15:45
jussishadeslayer: yup15:46
shadeslayerno idea 15:46
shadeslayerjussi: maybe you need to refresh the cache?15:46
jussishadeslayer: huh? 15:46
shadeslayerjussi: after applying settings : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental15:47
jussishadeslayer: O.o15:47
jussishadeslayer: I shouldnt have to do anything like that to apply which micrphone I want the damn thing to use15:48
yofelwhat's blink btw.? ^^15:48
shadeslayeryofel: sip client15:48
jussiyofel: sip client15:48
jussiLOL15:48
shadeslayerxD15:48
yofelheh15:48
jussiyofel: http://icanblink.com/15:48
shadeslayersure you can15:49
shadeslayerok mail sent, lets see what happens15:50
shadeslayerQuintasan: do you haz tp kde with file transfer ability?15:51
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/t13ao.png16:00
apacheloggerI have .prn in my qml16:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: i don't see .prn16:02
yofelnow that starts resembling something ^^16:02
yofelnot .prn though16:02
Quintasanshadeslayer: probably16:02
Quintasanshadeslayer: compiled yesterday16:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: make the icons at the bottom oxygen icons16:03
shadeslayerQuintasan: ?16:03
shadeslayeroh16:03
shadeslayerQuintasan: do you have the file transfer branch?16:03
shadeslayers/branch/repo16:03
Quintasanno16:03
Quintasanwhich module I want?16:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: you realize that oxygen icons do not fit into the overall theme?16:04
Quintasanapachelogger: This theme is fabulous16:04
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/QCiDo.png16:04
Quintasanbackground is meh16:05
Quintasanbut the design16:05
Quintasanis so stylish16:05
yofelthey look like the oxygen buttons though, just monochrome16:06
yofelwhich fits better here16:06
shadeslayerwell16:12
shadeslayeri quite like the design myself ;)16:12
shadeslayerjust the icons at the bottom look weird .... different from the oxygen icons16:12
yofelhow?16:12
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
sheytanapachelogger done something cool for me? :D16:15
yofelhttp://i.imgur.com/QCiDo.png16:15
yofelsheytan: ^16:16
sheytanyofel great! :D16:16
sheytanapachelogger now add some animations and create a screencast to blow us away with this beauty ;d16:16
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://paste.kde.org/8118116:17
shadeslayeryou need latest tp-qt btw16:18
shadeslayerkfoodtiem16:18
Quintasan 0.7116:19
Quintasanfffff16:19
* Quintasan updates in oneric16:20
Quintasanone-eye-rick16:20
yofelO16:20
yofelshorter :P16:20
Quintasanlike16:21
QuintasanO_O16:21
Quintasanit should be16:21
QuintasanO_X16:21
Quintasan:D16:21
yofel:D16:21
apacheloggersheytan: I am not meant to do that16:23
sheytanapachelogger but you can :)16:23
apacheloggerno I can't 16:24
apacheloggerI do not have the next idea about that stuff16:24
sheytanapachelogger what do you mean with next idea?16:24
Quintasanapachelogger: When using source format 3.0 I need 7 in compat and depends16:25
Quintasan?16:25
apacheloggerno16:25
Quintasanhuh?16:26
yofelI think you're mixing debhelper and dpkg-source16:26
yofeldon't think they depend much on the other16:27
Quintasanyeah16:27
Quintasanherpty derpty16:27
Quintasanwhatever, updating telepathy-qt416:27
yofelyou might as well update to dh816:27
apacheloggerbrrrr16:27
apacheloggerwhat a madness this qml is16:27
apacheloggerhttp://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qml-package.html16:28
QuintasanI thought u like QML16:28
yofelshadeslayer: if you add pkg-config to build-depends and use boost 1.42 kdepim builds fine on natty, so I would say add go straight ahead to 4.6 for oneiric16:30
apacheloggersheytan: can you send me the play button like button thing from the login box plz16:31
sheytanapachelogger sure16:32
sheytanapachelogger http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8624/gobutton.png16:34
Quintasanshadeslayer: Now I have that file transfer magic16:39
JontheEchidnasweet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B0x#Object_construction_improvement16:48
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/ZkwpP.png16:54
apacheloggerwould be more fun without a netbook16:54
yofelthat login screen will mark the last used entry by default so I can just press enter to choose it?17:02
yofelor better show the password dialog right away if only one user exists17:03
apacheloggerimplementation details17:06
sheytanyofel if only one user will exist,  it should show the password dialog right away. If more, it can show default or last used user17:07
apacheloggermore interesting is how to drag a selected user from the listview into the login box17:07
apacheloggerwhich seems like a fishy thing no matter how to approach the problem17:07
sheytanapachelogger you just click on a avatar, then it slides down to its centered possition, the other avatars slide to eachother (to don't leave empty space), then the input box for password appears with the login button. You type a password, hit enter or click the button and youre done17:09
apacheloggerAND HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT THAT WITHOUT HAVING UGLYNESS SPEW OUT OF ALL ENDS????????17:09
yofelsheytan: then I'm happy ^^17:10
sheytanapachelogger ends of what?17:10
Quintasancode17:10
QuintasanHe most likely meant code17:10
Quintasansince if mockup is ugly then we dont want it17:11
Quintasanand this one is certainly interesting17:11
sheytani don't get it. it's all simple with some animations. How an implementation of this should be crappy at code side  when using a qml?17:11
Quintasantalk is cheap17:12
Quintasanshow me the code17:12
sheytanQuintasan you know i'm not writing code. Just designing. Even if, i still think it shouldn't be hard to implement this17:12
Quintasansheytan: You say it is simple, using effects might be simple but implementing them is hard17:12
QuintasanBesides, it's apachelogger we are talking about17:13
JontheEchidna<3 range-based-for-loops in c++0x: http://paste.ubuntu.com/625268/17:13
sheytanQuintasan: Well, i'm leaving this for developers. They know how to take care of that17:13
QuintasanHe sometimes gets more mad than he usually is17:13
sheytanQuintasan we all do17:13
Quintasansheytan: apparently, the last step in every Kubuntu Developer is becoming an apachelogger17:14
* Quintasan isn't crazy enough17:14
sheytanif this helps you create better software, then why not :D17:15
Quintasansheytan: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development17:15
QuintasanKubuntu Ninja Dojo17:15
sheytanI don't think i'll have that much time17:16
QuintasanI thought the same stuff17:16
QuintasanNow look what the hell I am doing :P17:16
sheytanQuintasan do you work? Or school only?17:17
Quintasanpart-time work and school17:17
Quintasanalso17:17
Quintasan>only17:17
Quintasan>school only17:17
sheytanwhen i was in school, i was spending lots more time helping kubuntu17:17
sheytanthat's how the new page came out17:18
sheytanwhich is still under development (code side)17:18
sheytanDarkwingDuck: hey, ping me when you come back. I'm uploading the kubuntu web page code for ya so you can start developing it :)17:19
Quintasansheytan: Well, whatever, the type of work you are doing is what we need now17:19
Quintasanno matter how software is good, if we have a shitty website we make a BAD first impression17:19
sheytanQuintasan you mean artwork?17:19
Quintasanor artwork, yeah17:20
sheytanright17:20
sheytanthat's why i'm doing it17:20
sheytanthe web site sucks as hell17:20
Quintasansheytan: feeling like designing a Project Neon Badge at some point?17:20
* yofel wonders if he should bother to mention the wiki...17:21
sheytanyofel already did17:21
sheytanbut it's crap. need a new one17:21
sheytanQuintasan sure, but not today :)17:22
* sheytan is out for a while17:23
* apachelogger is too stupid for this17:27
QuintasanI'll pretend I did not see the statement above17:28
Quintasanapachelogger: ^17:28
* yofel wonders if you can edit the channel logs17:29
tsimpsonyofel: not unless you can convince the canonical sys-admins to do it17:34
shadeslayerQuintasan: okay, trying to send you a wallpaper17:34
yofelfigured as much ^^17:34
shadeslayerQuintasan: nope17:34
shadeslayerQuintasan: still grayed out17:34
QuintasanIt's grayed out in here too17:35
shadeslayerffffuuuuuuuu17:35
shadeslayerand its grayed out just for you17:35
JontheEchidnaX crapped its pants17:43
QuintasanJontheEchidna: radeon?17:45
JontheEchidnaintel17:45
Quintasanlul17:45
JontheEchidnaI was starting a VM in virtualbox17:45
mfraz74what produces the popups when hovering over smilies in either choqok or kmail?17:46
shadeslayermfraz74: the tooltip i guess?17:54
mfraz74shadeslayer: well any idea why it breaks after a while to look like this http://twitpic.com/5an2dc ?17:55
mfraz74also seems to do something funny when I do a whois in Choqok17:55
shadeslayerto say my interwebz is being sucky would be a understatement17:55
shadeslayermfraz74: in the last emoticon?17:56
apacheloggerBS17:56
apacheloggersupposedly the best option would be to move the items around17:56
apacheloggerthe thought of that scares me quite a bit though17:57
mfraz74shadeslayer: where that white box is should be the original smily in text format ie. ;)17:57
shadeslayerright17:57
shadeslayerit is broken indeed17:58
shadeslayermfraz74: i have no idea, could you please file a bug17:58
mfraz74shadeslayer: what do i file it against?17:58
JontheEchidna^with KDE17:58
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: i think he means what component17:59
mfraz74yes, that's what i meant18:00
shadeslayerKToolTip would be in kdelibs right?18:00
mfraz74Odd thing is when I booted up this morning it was working fine, now it isn't18:02
shadeslayerjussi: ok so upstream just contacted me18:13
shadeslayerjussi: there's good news and bad news18:13
shadeslayerjussi: what do you want to hear first?18:13
jussibad18:13
shadeslayerjussi: blink will have to be postponed for next cycle18:14
jussiwhy?18:14
shadeslayerthe good news is that they're working on getting the packages into debian but are not 'ready' yet18:14
shadeslayerjussi: i've forwarded a copy of the mail to you18:14
jussiok18:15
shadeslayeryofel: okay so can push to the kde packagers repo?18:19
shadeslayerwhat about oneiric18:19
shadeslayerso18:21
shadeslayerjussi: blink postponed18:21
shadeslayersorry but i'd rather not have conflicting packages18:21
shadeslayermakes a mess later on18:21
shadeslayerbulldog98: i'm almost ready with KDE PIM 4.4.1118:22
shadeslayerwill be pushing it in a couple of minutes to bzr18:22
shadeslayeryofel: assuan still not picked up -.-18:36
apacheloggerhow the flip does on make stuff centered in a qml listview18:40
DarkwingDucksheytan: ping18:40
yofelshadeslayer: I don't have a solution for oneiric  other than skipping 4.4 and going to 4.6 which builds fine18:44
shadeslayerhmm18:45
shadeslayerok pushing to packagers then, after adding pkg-config18:45
yofelor disable the lib package if you want to get it to build18:45
yofelI don't know anything about assuan :/18:46
shadeslayerme neither18:46
bulldog98shadeslayer: sounds good18:47
* bulldog98 is ready with kdepim-runtime18:47
yofelI would just go to 4.6 since that's what we want for both O and natty18:47
shadeslayerok so here's the plan18:48
shadeslayerpush with kubuntu_install_headers and libassuan18:48
shadeslayerdo not release this18:48
shadeslayergo straight to 4.618:48
* bulldog98 is woundering where to upload the runtime stuff?18:49
yofelkdepim-runtime/ubuntu IMO, since 4.6 is out we don't need to split the packaging anymore18:50
yofelor will there be another 4.4 release?18:50
shadeslayerdon't think so18:51
shadeslayer4.4.11 was a forced release18:51
shadeslayerbecause of some critical bug18:51
shadeslayerbulldog98: all yours18:51
shadeslayerbranch from lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kdepim/ubuntu18:51
yofelhm, isn't "[kubuntu-members] Ensure NM 0.9 works with KDE: TODO" done?18:53
bulldog98shadeslayer: I already have a merge request for that, but I can’t accept it, because I haven’t the rights18:53
bulldog98yofel: that doesn’t work18:54
yofelbulldog98: what?18:54
bulldog98It’s making plasma crashing 18:54
bulldog98NM 0.918:54
yofelhm, not for me, but I don't do more than simple wifi18:54
bulldog98on one pc on the other not18:54
bulldog98yofel: on the pc it crashes it even doesn’t do wifi stuff18:55
bulldog98which I find wired18:55
yofeltrace?18:55
* apachelogger has not the slightest of ieas how to make an image in qml grayscaled18:56
apacheloggerperhaps overlay with gray rect on marginal opacity :S18:57
* apachelogger just realized what he said and kicks himself18:57
yofelpackage latest kdepim is in progress though18:58
bulldog98and kded is also crashing, but I have to relogin to reproduce this18:59
bulldog98yofel: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/30019:02
yofeldoesn't seem to like wicd...19:02
yofelinstall kdebase-workspace-dbg and try again..19:03
bulldog98yofel: btw why is knm-runtime deinstalled when you install 0.9?19:04
yofelthe monolithic app is deprecated upstream so there's no point in splitting the package19:05
* bulldog98 sees that it somehow tries to call the wicd backend, but I don’t know why19:06
bulldog98Object::connect: No such signal WicdNetworkManager::wwanEnabledChanged(bool)19:08
bulldog98Object::connect: No such signal WicdNetworkManager::wwanHardwareEnabledChanged(bool)19:08
apacheloggerkaput19:08
yofelI get the feeling it's written for 4.719:09
bulldog98yofel: I thought it depends on it19:10
bulldog98because there was a change in the solid backend19:11
* bulldog98 needs 30min to download that dbg stuff (I need a speed upgrade)19:12
bulldog98but I need to lay the cable by myself (25 m)19:14
yofelapachelogger: btw, was there any talk in randa going on when we'll see 4.6.85?19:15
yofel*on about when19:16
bulldog98how can I disable the sound of the keyboard that I have since I installed sound-theme-freedesktop?19:20
apacheloggerbulldog98: sound of the keyboard?19:31
apacheloggeryofel: yes, there is no KDE 5 :P19:31
bulldog98apachelogger: running oneiric?19:31
yofelapachelogger: I wasn't talking about KDE, but about 4.6.85 :P19:32
apacheloggeryofel: frameworks 5 will be released ASAP after Qt 5, so I'd suppose no frameworks 5 until tp/alpha of Qt 519:32
bambeeevening19:32
bulldog98update an reboot an if you are on tty you get keyboard sounds if you tip something19:32
apacheloggeryofel: oh, all fishy versions19:32
apacheloggeryofel: when its ready :P19:32
=== tazz__ is now known as tazz
apacheloggeryofel: see release schedule19:32
yofelapachelogger: ah, so 4 days ago, good to know :P19:33
apacheloggerwell, you know, dirk is a busy man19:33
bulldog98and they are annoing (I don’t mean the sound if I normaly tip, you get a a sound if you delete some char for eg)19:33
apacheloggerbulldog98: on tty?19:33
yofeltrue19:33
apacheloggerthat is completely unrelated to the freedesktop sound theme19:34
apacheloggerbut rather a pcspkr thing19:34
bulldog98apachelogger: I also get it in konversation if I tip and everywhere19:35
apacheloggerwell, pcspkr is a kernel module :P19:35
apacheloggerthe kernel knows everything you type19:35
bulldog98apachelogger: how to disable it19:35
apacheloggerwhereas freedeesktop only knows what you type in a freedesktop enabled application19:35
apacheloggertty is certainly not one of those19:35
apacheloggerbulldog98: dunno19:35
apacheloggerblacklist the kernel module I'd guess19:36
sheytanDarkwingDuck: hey, get the code here: https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/kubuntu.zip?w=87b9f0f8&dl=1 :)19:40
bulldog98It still pings if I unload that module ar19:40
DarkwingDuckGarg, I need to log in?19:40
shadeslayeruh what?19:43
bulldog98project neon has a bug in calligra package description (it says gwenview instead of calligra)19:49
shadeslayerbulldog98: thanks, fixing20:00
DarkwingDucksheytan: It's not letting me download.20:12
shadeslayerok i'm starting with marble20:21
shadeslayersmall and simple hopefully20:21
sheytanDarkwingDuck: do you have a dropbox account?20:26
yofelyou can share stuff on u120:27
yofel(when it works for a change)20:27
sheytanyofel no kde version no using it. Besides i would have to upload the file again20:27
yofeltrue20:28
DarkwingDucksheytan: Nope, never used dropbox and when I created an account it still tells me that I'm not authorized.20:28
sheytanDarkwingDuck: give me your email you have registred with and i invite you then you can get it and we can share artwork for the page like i did with the previous developer :)20:29
DarkwingDuckdavid.wonderly@kubuntu.org20:29
sheytanDarkwingDuck: invitation send, now wait till i put the file into the folder :)20:32
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
shadeslayersheytan: around?20:35
sheytanshadeslayer yep20:35
shadeslayersheytan: i can haz some artwork for first blog post?20:35
shadeslayertrivial artwork i might add20:35
sheytanshadeslayer sure, shoot20:36
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
shadeslayersheytan: i want this http://apachelog.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/love.png?w=400&h=160 << in I <3 Kubuntu & KDE20:36
shadeslayerxD20:36
* Quintasan goes to bed20:36
QuintasanIt's not late but I'm unusually tired :S20:36
shadeslayeri just had a shot of coffee20:37
shadeslayeri can't go to bed for another 6-7 hours now20:37
QuintasanNo coffee policy here20:37
shadeslayeri wish they had coffee injections20:37
shadeslayerthen i wouldn't have to bother with the whole, boil milk and pour coffee in it procedure20:38
sheytanshadeslayer any size?20:38
shadeslayersheytan: same size would be fine20:38
shadeslayeri have to figure out how to use this editor as well20:38
yofelI somehow don't like the WYSISYG editor on wordpress so I ended up writing in html till now20:40
* bulldog98 has a nice changlog entry for kdepim20:49
yofelhopefully shorter than shadeslayers ^^20:49
bulldog98yofel: equal20:49
yofelheh20:50
bulldog98:) added a bunch of sublibs and removed some and so on20:50
DarkwingDucksheytan: Got it thank you.20:52
DarkwingDuck:)20:52
bulldog98yofel: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/30120:52
yofelnice, why ubuntu0 though?20:52
bulldog98yofel: course of local builds and than testing20:54
bulldog98on my pc20:54
yofelah20:54
sheytanshadeslayer http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9791/shadeslayerbanerr.png20:55
shadeslayerdarn it20:55
shadeslayersheytan: use imgur!20:56
sheytanno, it breaks the quality20:56
apacheloggerI you me gur20:57
sheytanDarkwingDuck: kubuntu.zip is what you should get :)20:59
shadeslayerbwahaha20:59
shadeslayersheytan: how does it break quality?20:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: omg new blog post coming up21:00
* bulldog98 now only needs to build kdepim :)21:00
bulldog98shadeslayer: nice work21:00
shadeslayerbulldog98: hmm? :D21:00
shadeslayeron KDE PIM?21:00
sheytanDarkwingDuck: sorry, i ivited you into wrong folder. Accept the new invitation please :)21:01
sheytanshadeslayer the uploaded image has worse quality then the oryginal one21:02
shadeslayer^^ huh, never notice that21:02
shadeslayer*noticed21:02
bulldog98shadeslayer: that, too :)21:02
apacheloggerScottK, skaet: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-postponeds needs approval and listing for topics I suppose21:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: new?21:02
apacheloggerhaha21:03
shadeslayerwel21:03
apacheloggerthat sorta implies there ever was one21:03
apacheloggerlolz21:03
shadeslayers/new/first21:03
bulldog98shadeslayer: +/21:03
bulldog98:)21:03
shadeslayer:D21:03
debfxwhy do I get mails about blueprints I'm not subscribed to?21:03
bulldog98debfx: kubuntu-member?21:04
bulldog98+s21:04
yofelprobably since they're all assigned to kubuntu-dev21:04
apacheloggerScottK, skaet: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-coding same for this one21:04
* bulldog98 needs faster inet (56 kB/s says apt)21:06
sheytanDarkwingDuck: you should understand the structure of the folders in dropbox. If you have any questions just ask, if you implement something new to the page, tell me :D21:06
debfxapachelogger: is it necessary that our blueprints are assigned to kubuntu-dev?21:07
shadeslayerbulldog98: dude thats fast21:07
shadeslayerbulldog98: i have 30KBps21:07
bulldog98shadeslayer: that’s at home21:08
apacheloggerdebfx: why?21:08
debfxapachelogger: because the spam needs to stop21:08
yofelgreat, we need newer akonadi for 4.721:08
apacheloggerdebfx: yes they need to21:08
apacheloggerdebfx: file a bug with lunchpad about the spam21:08
apacheloggeror create a filter21:08
debfxapachelogger: ok, then we need to set a contact address for kubuntu-dev21:09
apacheloggernull@dev.root21:09
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: I am getting ewws from the documentation todo21:11
apacheloggerplease move to blueprints as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorkItemsHowto and other blueprints21:11
shadeslayersheytan: can you put it somewhere else?21:12
shadeslayerbecause imageshack blocks me21:12
shadeslayeror nvm21:13
* shadeslayer has a idea21:13
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: Okay, i'll get them21:13
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: My harddrive failed so I'm getting back into the swing.21:14
sheytanshadeslayer just save it to hdd then add  to blog fro hdd21:14
shadeslayersheytan: dude, i can't open that link, but nvm, i downloaded it to yofel's thinkpad and scp'd it over21:15
yofelhahah21:15
sheytanlol21:15
debfxthe server team has their bug mailing list as contact address, seems like a good solution to me21:15
shadeslayerok so who wants to proof read my post?21:20
yofelgimme21:20
shadeslayeryofel: http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/?p=1&preview=true21:20
shadeslayeranyone else ^^21:20
yofelshadeslayer: doesn't work, there's a review link at the bottom where you can send mails21:21
yofeltired it with my neon post already21:21
yofel*tried21:21
* shadeslayer looks21:21
yofelthe "Request Feeback" one21:22
shadeslayeryofel: apachelogger check mail21:22
shadeslayerfor some reason, i don't see the image at the bottom21:23
shadeslayeri hope that gets fixed when i publish21:23
yofelshadeslayer: about planets, make sure you use http and not https feed links, the planets can't read the https ones21:24
shadeslayerah okay21:24
yofelat least the ubuntu one21:24
shadeslayernow all i need is a avtar image21:25
shadeslayeror whatever its called21:25
yofelthe picture is displayed as the html code, otherwise nice. In the first sentence you wrote i'll (missing capital)21:27
yofelmore like part of the img html is missing it seems21:28
sheytanttime to sleep21:28
sheytanbye guys21:28
yofelgn21:28
shadeslayeryofel: dunno why it's not working21:34
yofelwhat I see is21:35
yofel<img class=”size-full wp-image-5″ title=”I <3 KDE & Kubuntu” src=”http://kshadeslayer.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/shadeslayerbanerr.png” alt=”I 21:35
yofelas a link to the image21:35
shadeslayeryeah21:36
yofelwait, after refreshing I only see21:36
yofel<img class=”size-full wp-image-5″ title=”I 21:36
shadeslayeryep, i'm trying to fix that21:36
yofelI guess it doesn't like the < ^^21:36
shadeslayeri have no idea whats happening21:36
shadeslayermaybe21:36
shadeslayeri'll add a unicode <3 then :P21:36
yofelhehe21:36
apacheloggerI am spamming right now21:38
apacheloggerspam spam spam spam21:38
shadeslayeryofel: try now21:38
yofelshadeslayer: <321:38
shadeslayeryus21:38
apacheloggerI think I broke the intartubes21:38
yofelworks :)21:38
apacheloggerStill working... the gmail sez21:38
apacheloggershadeslayer: y u spam me/21:40
apachelogger?21:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: because i ♥ you21:40
yofel^^21:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: On the Kubuntu front we have a action packed release cycle with possibly a new display manager ( LightDM *possibly* replacing KDM )21:41
apacheloggerthat needs to go21:41
shadeslayerwhy? :(21:41
apacheloggerneither true nor accepted nor anything21:41
apacheloggerthat is only dangeruos21:41
shadeslayerthats why i wrote *possibly*21:41
* apachelogger would rather not get flamed again21:41
shadeslayeroh this stays then :P21:41
* shadeslayer adds "Flame apachelogger for this one"21:42
apacheloggeryou realize that all of kubuntu is getting into cross fire over not commiting a crime, right?21:42
shadeslayeryeah i know, removing, i was just kidding ;)21:42
apacheloggerotherwise good read21:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: did you not want to maintain phonon in qtwebkit?21:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: not yet21:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: maybe at some point in the future21:43
shadeslayerbut i'm just swamped with work now21:43
apacheloggerthat point better be soon21:43
apacheloggerhttp://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-multimedia&m=130779689626212&w=221:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh btw, for a item that has been postponed21:43
shadeslayerdo i list a reason on the white board why it has been postponed?21:44
apacheloggeryes21:44
apacheloggerwhat is being posponed?21:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: blink21:45
apacheloggerwhy is it being postponed?21:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://lists.ag-projects.com/pipermail/sipbeyondvoip/2011-June/001961.html21:45
apacheloggerthis company is weird^321:46
apacheloggerbut so be it21:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: "On the Kubuntu front we have a action packed release cycle with a new package manager ( Muon replacing KPackageKit ), a focus on improving Kubuntu on ARM and touchscreen devices ( as Harald Sitter documents it in this blogpost ) and loads of other stuff!"21:47
shadeslayerbetter?21:47
apacheloggerArrr-m21:47
shadeslayerok so i'm publishing it21:48
ScottKapachelogger: Done.21:53
shadeslayertime to add to planets21:53
apacheloggerScottK: merci22:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: usually you'd add first to planets and then publish :P22:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: uh .. the post won't get picked up?22:05
apachelogger*shrug*22:05
apacheloggerif I wrote a planet software it would not22:05
apacheloggerfirst scan: add new entry to db22:05
apacheloggernext scan with first entry: planetize blog post22:05
apacheloggeran alternate approach would be: rescan config -> new blog -> add to db -> first scan with entry published *past* db entry creation -> planetize 22:06
apacheloggereitherway posts published before adding to the planet config would not get on the planet22:07
shadeslayerhmm22:07
shadeslayeri'll just mark it as private and publish again22:07
shadeslayershould work then22:07
apacheloggernot if publishing timestamp is the same :P22:08
yofelI doubt the feed would send out a new entry22:08
apacheloggeryofel: please note that items assigned to kubuntu-members must not be anything but TODO22:10
yofeloh, ok22:10
apacheloggerkubuntu-members acts as place holder since the work items stuff does not support no-assignee right now22:10
* yofel wonders how one can name a mobile barcode lib 'Prison'22:11
apacheloggerliboobs > libprison22:11
yofel...22:12
shadeslayer*sigh* 5159/1420322:13
shadeslayerthere are like a bazillion revisions in here22:13
yofelubuntu planet config?22:13
shadeslayeryes22:13
yofelheh22:13
apacheloggersomeone should wipe the history22:13
apacheloggerlike amarokz did when they moved to gitty22:14
apacheloggerit is not like stuff from 5 years ago are going to be very intersting 22:14
shadeslayer^^22:14
yofelI don't think that was ever anywhere than bzr :P22:15
apacheloggeryofel: so?22:15
apacheloggeroh, I only mentioned amarok because they did it successfully 22:15
yofelwell, true too22:15
apacheloggerI doubt many people have a clone of the planet and update it weekly22:16
apacheloggerand I suppose rebranching when one needs to change something in like 3 years is not that much a problem22:16
shadeslayerit would be so much fun if there was a power outage suddenly22:16
apacheloggerdid my lightdm mail to kubuntu-devel get moderated btw?22:16
yofelI think that branch get's updated pretty frequently. Only the config.ini though22:17
* apachelogger also thinks he sent the todo mail with the wrong mail addy ^^22:17
shadeslayerlol22:17
apacheloggeryofel: yeah, not by the same people over and over again though :P22:17
shadeslayernope22:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: you sent the todo mail to the right email22:17
yofelyeah22:17
d_edapachelogger: I got your lightdm one with the mockup22:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: but from the wrong one22:17
shadeslayerah yes22:18
* apachelogger cancels 22:18
shadeslayeromg done22:19
shadeslayerwtf http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/22:20
shadeslayeroh22:20
apacheloggeris kdepim 4.6.0 packaged yet?22:20
apacheloggergmail is driving me nutssss22:20
yofelask bulldog9822:20
shadeslayerbulldog98 is working on that22:20
apacheloggerd_ed, shadeslayer: now there should be mail22:21
shadeslayerhmm22:21
shadeslayerhow do i make it publish the post right now22:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: move you head close to the display and shout publish22:22
apacheloggerif it does not work22:22
apacheloggerpet your display22:22
apacheloggerif that does not work, tickle your fan22:22
* micahg thinks one should speak into the mouse...22:22
apacheloggerif that does not work, touch your laptop's private parts22:22
apacheloggerbut not the USB ports22:22
shadeslayeroh so i was doing it wrong when i tried to take picture?22:23
yofelshadeslayer: should publish when you click publish if you didn't edit the settings22:23
apacheloggerthey get all sorts of ticklish there22:23
shadeslayerStatus: Scheduled @_@22:23
apacheloggernow you are doomed22:23
apachelogger!22:23
apacheloggerfirst rule of wordpress: never ever schedule anything22:23
yofelmicahg: you mean like the guy in the IT Crowd? ^^22:23
d_edapachelogger: what's new in this version?22:23
* micahg wonders if anyone here besides ScottK is old enough to get the reference22:23
micahgyofel: nope22:24
apacheloggerd_ed: compared to what version?22:24
yofelthen I don't know...22:24
d_edthe one you attached22:24
apacheloggerd_ed: it is the new sheytan mockup made into a qml thing22:24
apacheloggerd_ed: ah, nothing22:25
apacheloggerd_ed: it did not get through to kubuntu-devel22:25
apacheloggerpoor devel people ^^22:25
d_edah, and you CCd me directly22:25
d_edok cool22:25
apacheloggeryeah, I did not notice22:25
apacheloggerit all makes sense now:D22:25
apacheloggeralso I might have had too much coffee22:25
apacheloggeroh my22:25
* yofel puts rum in apacheloggers coffee22:26
yofelthere you go, have some more :P22:27
micahgyofel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19BWJQ8kjrw22:28
shadeslayeris it necessary that my time stamp be newer than that of the newest post?22:28
* yofel actually watched that movie ^^22:29
yofelbeen a while though22:29
shadeslayerokay first post is up at http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com22:30
shadeslayeromg 25 views already <322:30
yofelheh22:31
yofelIt sure is fun watching the Dashboard :P22:33
shadeslayerit sure is 22:33
bulldog98apachelogger: I am uploading my results to my personal staging22:36
yofelyou could just use ninjas...22:36
yofeldoesn't matter though since it's released22:37
bulldog98yofel: didn’t want to brake anything22:37
bulldog98in ninjas22:37
yofelhm, right, I've already put 4.7 stuff there22:38
bulldog98yofel: and I didn’t want to brake kubuntu-ppa not even staging :)22:38
bulldog98and to maybe rollback the versioning22:38
yofelstaging is there to be broken though :P22:39
yofelanyway, vm22:39
yofel*nvm22:39
bulldog98apachelogger: how do you send mails via an email alias, which only sends you the mails?22:40
yofelyou specify an alternate sender address22:40
yofelI can't do that since gmx doesn't allow that :S22:40
bulldog98yofel: I found that out, too22:41
yofelI wonder if I should move the dev stuff to a gmail acc.22:41
bulldog98yofel: we need our own mailserver, so we can do anything we want :)22:41
yofelhehe22:42
shadeslayeri'd actually like gmail to tell to which account did the email arrive22:42
shadeslayerthat doesn't happen with mailing lists22:42
shadeslayer( since i'm subscribed to different lists with different addresses )22:42
bulldog98shadeslayer: I’m downloading every mail to my own system and wrap it trought sieve and my own local imap server22:43
shadeslayergmail > *22:44
shadeslayeri've tried KDE PIM ... Desktop Email clients are not for me22:44
bulldog98shadeslayer: I love kdepim22:44
bulldog98that’s the reason I package it :)22:44
ScottKIf someone has an idea about http://skitterman.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/look-before-you-leap-kubuntu-maverick/#comment-428 I'd appreciate it if you'd comment.22:44
shadeslayerthats old22:45
yofelsomehow I'm too used to thunderbird, not that kmail2 is bad though22:45
* claydoh hearts kdepim, too but has been using gmail for lots of stuff lately22:45
bulldog98yofel: I use kmail2 since 4.5.?22:45
yofelI've tried it a few times in the past, kmail2 is pretty nice. But I work with too many mails a day that I can just go and accept a temporary drop in productivity22:47
yofelsomething for the summer holidays22:47
shadeslayeroh that reminds me22:47
shadeslayeryofel: we have a TODO on moving to OBS right?22:48
shadeslayerdo we want to proceed on that?22:48
shadeslayeror continue with bzr?22:48
bulldog98yofel: haven’t lost a mail I know of :)22:48
yofeldunno, can they do daily builds? I haven't found the infrastructure for that22:48
ScottKshadeslayer: No.  It's not.22:48
yofelbulldog98: no, I mean that I'm just slower22:48
shadeslayerafaik you can git pull in obs22:48
ScottKshadeslayer: Comment is from today.22:48
shadeslayerah22:48
shadeslayerScottK: i was talking about the blog post22:49
ScottKYeah.  It was.22:49
yofellet's move that to #p-n22:49
shadeslayersure22:49
ScottKshadeslayer: If you move it to OBS, please remove any reference to Kubuntu.22:49
shadeslayerScottK: okay22:50
micahgScottK: maybe usb-modeswitch?22:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: you've used OBS right?22:51
ScottKMy only interaction with OBS has been to ask people to stop building packages on it for Debian/Ubuntu since they were crap.22:51
shadeslayerScottK: really?22:51
ScottKmicahg: No idea.  That's why I asked.22:51
ScottKshadeslayer: That and ignoring mails from people asking my why the Debian package $FOO won't build on OBS.22:52
shadeslayerhehe22:52
shadeslayerScottK: whats the problem with debian packages on OBS?22:52
ScottKTo start with they are generally made by people who don't know anything about Debian packaging.22:52
ScottKThey often have different names than proper Debian/Ubuntu packages and don't conflict with them properly.22:53
yofelhm, I did get a choqok package to build on OBS on the first try, so it's doable22:53
yofeltheir packaging guide for debian is a bit... very simple22:54
ScottKBut from the POV of Kubuntu, I think if you're using opensuse infrastructure to make stuff it's not really right totie it to Kubuntu in any way.22:54
yofeland not really the debian way22:54
yofelwell, if bzr starts working at some point I'm happy with LP22:54
shadeslayer^^ +122:55
* yofel wonders when that rollout was supposed to be22:55
bulldog98yofel: Riddell’ll do it :)22:55
yofelheh22:55
shadeslayeryofel: i think wgrant was testing it on staging22:55
shadeslayerbut i have no idea what happened after that22:55
yofelwell, you just pinged him, so let's see if he as an update :P22:56
yofel*has22:56
yofelthe manual uploads are a matter of running 2 commands for me so it's ~ok for now22:59
Riddellyofel: I think it'll need a sysadmin to do it22:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: want this : http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/9223/ ?22:59
yofelah, well, we waited long enough already, so no real hurry there23:01
yofelScottK: what should I put on the packaging wiki btw. since we're not packaging people? ^^23:05
ScottKyofel: I've given up.  I just call it KDE and the marketing people can get upset if they want to.23:05
yofelgood idea23:06
shadeslayerbah23:13
shadeslayeryofel: the time stamp matters23:13
yofelheh23:14
shadeslayeryofel: i'm on planet ubuntu23:14
shadeslayerbut like 3 posts down23:14
yofeland on planet KDE23:14
shadeslayersame thing23:15
shadeslayerbut like 4-5 posts down23:15
shadeslayerhm ... lets try and fix that23:17
yofelmeh, missing symbols again :/23:19
shadeslayerah okay, wp is using utc23:20
bulldog98shadeslayer: saw the post already :)23:20
shadeslayeryeah that doesn't matter, i want it to be the first post on the planetz :P23:21
yofelyou'll get your chance :P23:21
bulldog98shadeslayer: so start a new post23:22
* bulldog98 noticed that he forgot to do a introducion at planet.kde.org23:22
shadeslayernah, its quite easy, just modify the timestamps23:23
shadeslayerit'll be fixed in a couple of minutes23:23
bulldog98shadeslayer: that’s cheating23:23
shadeslayer:P23:23
yofelI'll put my kde intro into the next neon update in 2 weeks23:23
shadeslayerthe original time stamp was like in january23:23
bulldog98yofel: I’ll do that if I post my next post23:24
yofeland how should I understand the 'if' ? :P23:25
yofelyou'll make apachelogger unhappy like that :P23:25
shadeslayerhahaha23:25
bulldog98something like KDE PIM 4.6 in Kubuntu :)23:25
shadeslayeryou don't want to do that23:25
bulldog98yofel: between my last and the secondlast post there was almost a year23:25
yofelah, give me a bit to write up a kubuntu.org announcement for kdepim though. Enough people are confused already23:25
yofelhehe23:26
bulldog98yofel: only I post it and haven’t done the packaging23:26
yofelthat doesn't help :P23:26
bulldog98than he defently has to add my name to that post :)23:27
yofelif you finish it I'll add you name ;)23:27
yofel*your23:28
bulldog98yofel: now I can’t go sleeping until I got it :)23:29
yofelhey, that would mean I would need to write the post today!23:29
yofeltake your time :P23:29
bulldog98yofel: I think it’ll be finished within about today23:31
yofeluh, when the hell did it become monday o.O23:31
bulldog98yofel: about 30 min ago23:32
yofelyeah, totally missed it...23:32
shadeslayeryofel: how many hits did you get btw? :D23:32
shadeslayerbecause the hits on my blog just exploded23:32
bulldog98yofel: I give you an other hit23:33
bulldog98you forgot a , which made it imposible to build (builddep list)23:33
bulldog98s/yofel// s/hit//23:33
kubotubulldog98: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"23:33
yofel496 views all-time, 8 today, 56 on the day I posted my neon-update post23:33
bulldog98shadeslayer: that was to you23:33
yofelthe ubuntu folks simply didn't care I think :S23:34
shadeslayerbulldog98: hehe23:34
yofelshadeslayer: should I post my neon post to kde after all to compete? :P23:35
shadeslayer453 views all-time     66 views today23:35
yofel2 weeks late is a bit ... though...23:35
shadeslayerhahahaha23:35
bulldog98shadeslayer: the bad was I needed 6 tries to figure that out23:35
yofellol, 45323:35
yofelsee how impatient we all were :P23:35
shadeslayeroh just you wait :D23:35
yofelmaybe I'll post it, but with a note why it's delayed23:36
yofelanyway, kdepimlibs comes first, I'll give you a handicap :P23:36
shadeslayerhehe23:37
yofelgrrrrr23:44
yofelI totally don't get why these symbols are missing because I don't get where they even came from -.-23:44
yofelah, found, akonadi/subscriptiondialog_p.h  is a private header, right?23:47
yofelusing namespace Akonadi; - no wonder grep didn't find it -.-23:48
bulldog98is it possible to set --debbuildopts in .pbuilderrc?23:48
yofelit is, sec23:48
yofelI use DEBBUILDOPTS="-j4" here, which gets applied from what I see23:49
shadeslayer\o/ its at the top now23:49
shadeslayerhehehe23:49
yofel23:49
* shadeslayer goes back to telepathy23:50
yofelah, the functions got replaced23:53
yofelwell, seems private from what I see23:53
shadeslayeri'm taking up kate23:55
yofeldidn't you want to do marble? ^^23:56
shadeslayernah, kate is smaller23:56
shadeslayer:P23:56
yofel:P23:56
shadeslayerand its like 4.30 AM, so i'm less likely to mess it up23:56
yofelyou'll need to add a package for the lib stuff that was moved from kdelibs to kate23:57
shadeslayerright23:57
yofelkatepart IIRC23:57
shadeslayeri have to split out katepart? 0.o23:57
shadeslayerwas that ever split in kdelibs?23:57
shadeslayerah yes23:57
yofelwell, there was a tone of kate stuff in kdelibs that was moved to kate23:57
shadeslayerright23:58
yofellibkatepartinterfaces423:58
yofelok, I think I'm done with kdepimlibs, one last build and back to wondering how to write copyright files23:58

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