[00:00] <sheytan> valorie it's 112 in europe, we in Poland even have 3 different number for ER, fire brigade and police :D
[00:01] <valorie> sheesh
[00:01] <sheytan> so, if apacheloggers isin't present, the i'll show you something
[00:01] <sheytan> he will miss that amazing stuff ;d
[00:01] <sheytan> http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9408/choose2.png kaboom
[00:01] <sheytan> http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3743/login2n.png
[00:01] <sheytan> way better then yesterday :D
[00:01] <valorie> beautiful!
[00:01] <sheytan> yeah!
[00:02] <valorie> I like the time&date down there better
[00:02] <sheytan> and this one will be the default for Kubuntu. I must be :D
[00:02] <yofel> well, police is 110 here, though for the sake of EU unification you can get the police from 112 too
[00:02] <sheytan> you'll vote for me valorie, right? :D
[00:02] <valorie> you need votes?
[00:02] <sheytan> just in case ;d
[00:03] <valorie> I'm not seeing a diff between the two?
[00:03] <sheytan> you mean?
[00:07] <valorie> between your two links -- they look identical when I switch between them
[00:11] <sheytan> valorie, impossible. wait
[00:11] <sheytan> valorie http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2011/06/lightdm-makieta.html
[00:11] <cjohnston> JontheEchidna: seems good
[00:11] <sheytan> with english version, extra for you guys ;)
[00:12] <valorie> ah!
[00:12] <valorie> I din't get the login one
[00:12] <valorie> somehow
[00:12] <valorie> I like the grayed out, above
[00:13] <valorie> very cool
[00:13] <sheytan> yeah, it shows more which user was choosen :D
[00:13] <JontheEchidna> interesting names :P
[00:14] <sheytan> JontheEchidna: hah, i took them, with the avatars from the default lightdm theme (if it's not only a mockup still)
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> I feel sorry for Dick Worrhing
[00:14] <sheytan> so, apachelogger will have a nice suprise when he wokes up ;D
[00:15] <sheytan> i'm going to sleep, it's really time for me now.
[00:15] <sheytan> bye all :)
[00:18] <shadeslayer> thats so fancy
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> haha, my dog just chomped a mosquito out of mid-air
[00:48] <yofel> your dog should become an ninja and package stuff
[04:13] <DarkwingDuck> cjohnston: Pong
[04:13] <cjohnston> sir
[04:16] <DarkwingDuck> cjohnston: I just noticed the ping and querry
[04:16] <cjohnston> it seems like it is stable now
[04:16] <cjohnston> what number would you like
[04:17] <DarkwingDuck> Hmmz?
[04:18] <cjohnston> oh.. sorry DarkwingDuck 
[04:18] <cjohnston> i thought you were Jon.. :-/ I need to go to bed
[04:18] <cjohnston> was point out earlier the issues with the blueprints that you were tied to a bunch of them
[04:19] <cjohnston> I believe all kubuntu stuff is now working on status.ubuntu.com
[04:20]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[04:23] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I've got to fix a few of these blueprints
[04:23] <valorie> big earthquake in Italy
[04:23] <valorie> 7.7
[04:23] <valorie> :(
[04:24] <valorie> http://w3.gdacs.org/reports.asp?ID=109846
[04:28] <valorie> good lord, who is that crazy David Wonderly with 15 items to do?
[04:29] <valorie> us Kubuntu Members have some work too
[04:29] <cjohnston> when you take a task, change it from kubuntu-members to yourself
[04:30] <valorie> some stuff like blogging will be hard to match up to that 
[04:30] <valorie> until someone just marks it DONE
[04:31] <valorie> since harald has blogging, more blogging, microblogging, plus some blogging
[04:31] <cjohnston> ya.. my suggestion would be to clean up some of the blogging stuff.. like the blogging more blogging even more blogging stuff is kinda overboard...
[04:31] <valorie> for all of us
[04:31] <valorie> "overboard"
[04:31] <valorie> that's the definition of Harald!
[04:31] <valorie> lol
[04:31] <cjohnston> just leave it assigned to kubuntu memebrs, when the first person blogs mark in progress, at the end of the cycle mark done
[07:49] <jussi> apachelogger: wake up!! 
[07:52]  * micahg waves to jussi 
[07:52] <jussi> o/ micahg
[09:19] <fabo> debfx: isn't it premature to close bug 785433 ?
[09:19] <fabo> I expected an improved patch as suggested by upstream
[10:39] <debfx> fabo: well that comment was added after the package was uploaded but I agree it should be re-opened
[10:59] <Quintasan> \o
[11:08] <nigelb> o/
[11:16] <jussi> apachelogger: pingaling
[11:16] <jussi> Quintasan: got your board yet? 
[11:16] <Quintasan> Nope
[11:16] <jussi> bah
[11:16] <jussi> any progress? 
[11:17] <Quintasan> Waiting for payment confirmation from Slowscale
[11:17] <jussi> but you have spoken to them? 
[11:19] <Quintasan> three times
[11:19] <Quintasan> two services requests were closed
[11:19] <Quintasan> and one is still unassigned
[11:19] <jussi> Quintasan: lol
[11:20] <jussi> stupid
[11:20]  * Quintasan shakes fists at meego
[11:20] <Quintasan> jussi: upstream includes debian/ in source @_@
[11:21] <yofel> o/
[11:21] <Quintasan> yofel: \o
[11:21] <jussi> Quintasan:heh
[11:21] <yofel> which upstream?
[11:21] <Quintasan> Meego
[11:22] <Quintasan> Malitit keyboard to be exact
[11:22] <jussi> Im just grumbling at freescale for sending both me and Harald dud cards
[11:22] <yofel> for what do they package? etch :D ?
[11:29] <Quintasan> FFS
[11:29] <Quintasan> fcking qmake
[11:29]  * Quintasan tries to reuse upstream packaging
[11:45] <shadeslayer> \o
[11:52] <fabo> yofel: maemo
[11:52] <yofel> ah
[11:52] <shadeslayer> hey fabo
[11:53] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: \o
[11:53]  * yofel notes that there's still enough for everyone on the 4.7 packaging list
[11:53] <shadeslayer> ^^
[11:53] <Quintasan> apachelogger: How important are malitit packages?
[11:53] <shadeslayer> someone willing to finish up KDE PIM?
[11:53] <shadeslayer> because i can't get the headers to compile 
[11:54] <yofel> I could look at it after my headache from looking at smoke is gone
[11:55]  * Quintasan kills qmake
[11:55] <bulldog98> Quintasan: the Qt guy do that too :)
[11:55] <Quintasan> FFS
[11:55] <Quintasan> bulldog98: Do what?
[11:55] <Quintasan> Kill QMake?
[11:56] <bulldog98> Quintasan: yes
[11:56] <bulldog98> they’ll switch to something else
[11:57] <yofel> seriously?
[11:57] <yofel> \o/
[11:57] <Quintasan> \o/
[11:57] <shadeslayer> when did that happen?
[11:58] <bulldog98> yofel: one of the Qt guys told me they want to switch for Qt5
[11:58] <Quintasan> What, are you not satisfied with it shadeslayer?
[11:58] <yofel> well, at least some things that happen are good
[11:58] <bulldog98> they don’t know if that’ll be cmake or something else
[11:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i haven't seen anything on the interwebz about the switch
[11:59]  * yofel hopes not autotools...
[11:59]  * Quintasan votes for cmake
[11:59] <shadeslayer> if they do, awesome
[11:59]  * bulldog98 too
[11:59] <shadeslayer> yofel: oh crap, not autotools
[11:59] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
[11:59] <shadeslayer> worse than qmake
[11:59] <shadeslayer> i don't know how the GNOME guys live with it
[12:00] <Quintasan> >GNOME
[12:00] <Quintasan> no
[12:00] <Quintasan> don't even mention that name
[12:00] <shadeslayer> xD
[12:00] <shadeslayer> yofel: i'll fix up the changelog and document other stuff, then you can take over
[12:00] <shadeslayer> for PIM
[12:00] <yofel> k
[12:01] <Quintasan> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/81085
[12:01] <Quintasan> any idea?
[12:01]  * Quintasan sometimes hates new dh
[12:01] <yofel> /bin/sh: ./gen-tests-xml.sh: Permission denied ?
[12:01] <Quintasan> yeah
[12:01] <shadeslayer> yeah thats what i'm thinking as well
[12:02] <yofel> sure it's +x ?
[12:02] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: disable tests?
[12:02] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: protip
[12:02] <Quintasan> override_dh_auto_test should do it
[12:02] <Quintasan> empty override
[12:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: does this go into main?
[12:03] <Quintasan> hmm, probably
[12:03] <Quintasan> since we want it as a keyboard for Plasma Active
[12:03] <shadeslayer> then don't disable it
[12:03] <Quintasan> default Plasma virtual keyboard is not good enough
[12:03] <shadeslayer> will probably be bought up in the MIR 
[12:03] <Quintasan> tests fail anyways
[12:03] <Quintasan> I will deal with them later
[12:06] <Quintasan> hmm
[12:06] <Quintasan> works when I +x it in the source tree
[12:07] <jussi> shadeslayer: hows my blink going? 
[12:07] <shadeslayer> jussi: finishing up kde pim, will start on it in 30 minutes
[12:08] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: reuse upstream packaging
[12:08] <jussi> excellent!!
[12:08] <Quintasan> it's mostly done
[12:08] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: there were some other deps right
[12:08] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: You will have to get py-sipsimple into our repos first
[12:08] <Quintasan> And then getting blink should be easy
[12:08] <Quintasan> Try getting it into Debian later
[12:08] <shadeslayer> is it in debian?
[12:09] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:09] <Quintasan> It is not
[12:09] <Quintasan> AFAIK
[12:19] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Maltit is halfway done, I can't get tests to work
[12:22] <Quintasan> cjohnston: How often are the burndown graphs refreshed?
[12:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: packaging pushed to lp:~rohangarg/kdepim/ubuntu 
[12:37] <yofel> that's 4.4?
[12:37] <shadeslayer> or rather will be in a second
[12:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: 4.4.11 
[12:37] <yofel> k
[12:37] <shadeslayer> need to delete older branch
[12:39] <shadeslayer> kdone
[12:40] <yofel> hm, should I keep the old kdebindings changelog in the new smokegen package?
[12:40] <shadeslayer> onto blink now
[12:46] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: burndown graphs?
[12:49] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: btw maltit has its own git repo and everything now
[12:50] <yofel> shadeslayer: burndown graphs: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/
[12:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://wiki.meego.com/Maliit/Viva_la_Revolution
[12:51] <shadeslayer> yofel: fancy
[12:52] <shadeslayer> yofel: also ... ew flash
[12:53] <yofel> flash? didn't notice...
[12:53] <shadeslayer> yeah ff shows a nice flash block button on the image
[12:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i might have to package all of these : http://download.ag-projects.com/SipClient/
[12:57] <shadeslayer> hmm ... xcaplib and msrplib are not in the archives
[13:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: around?
[13:28] <shadeslayer> jussi: can you file packaging requests for python-msrplib , python-xcaplib and python-sipsimple ?
[13:29] <apachelogger> jussi: you realize you told me to wake up at 9 :O
[13:29] <apachelogger> are you mad?
[13:30] <apachelogger> Quintasan: not as important, seeing as we do not have 4.7 and the new plasma-mobile/active rolled on annoy-rick yet
[13:30] <apachelogger> though once we have it becomes critical ;)
[13:30] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: going to eat now
[13:30] <Quintasan> something urgent?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: sure, MoDaX answered my question anyways
[13:31] <apachelogger> sheytan: I like like like like like
[13:31] <apachelogger> now if I found the time to make that a qml mockup :S
[13:31] <apachelogger> g
[13:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: poke http://paste.kde.org/80971/
[13:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i generated that using qdbusxml2cpp ... but in the constructor it does not connect to the dbus interface first, should i hand edit that?
[13:34] <apachelogger> getting a db error
[13:34] <shadeslayer> sigh
[13:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/625142/
[13:36] <apachelogger> sheytan: what do I see there?
[13:36] <shadeslayer> tabfail? :D
[13:36] <apachelogger> yes
[13:36] <apachelogger> you two are killing me
[13:36] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[13:37] <apachelogger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adapter_pattern
[13:37] <apachelogger> read and understand why it does not connect to the debus interface
[13:37] <apachelogger> *dbus even
[13:37]  * shadeslayer looks
[14:03] <cjohnston> Quintasan: at :33 after
[14:04] <Quintasan> cjohnston: Make it :37 :P
[14:04] <Quintasan> 13:37
[14:04] <cjohnston> why
[14:04] <cjohnston> just cause
[14:04] <cjohnston> lol
[14:04] <mfraz74> Is akonadi-facebook going to be packaged for 11.10?
[14:28] <sheytan> apachelogger glad you like it. I wish to have some nature wallpapers default in kubuntu, but KDE won't do that :(
[14:29] <apachelogger> sheytan: http://i.imgur.com/DgCSC.png
[14:29] <apachelogger> all done
[14:30] <sheytan> apachelogger great! Keep working on it. Oneric will rock even more :D
[14:30]  * apachelogger does not plan on working on it :P
[14:31] <apachelogger> just playing around with qml
[14:31] <sheytan> apachelogger any body does?
[14:32] <apachelogger> sheytan: not if you do not send it to the mailing list :P
[14:34] <sheytan> apachelogger can you do that? I unsubscribed from. :)
[14:39] <TJB> hi
[14:39] <TJB> i have a question
[14:39] <TJB> why can't GNOME and KDE just merge
[14:39] <TJB> it's annoying having apps made for GNOME and apps made for KDE
[14:41] <Quintasan> TJB: Ha, ask GNOME ;)
[14:41] <bigbrovar> hi guys  which package replaced kde-devel on Kubuntu 11.04? 
[14:43] <yofel> shadeslayer: erm, re kdepim...
[14:43] <Quintasan> !info kde-devel
[14:43] <Quintasan> !info kde-devel maverick
[14:43] <Quintasan> bigbrovar: ^
[14:43] <yofel> IIRC that has been gone for quite a while
[14:44] <Quintasan> Did you mean kde-sc-dev-latest?
[14:44] <yofel> shadeslayer: you have a debian/patches/debian-changes-4\:4.4.11.1+l10n-0ubuntu1 which reverts the install patch...
[14:45] <yofel> hm, no, I have that here
[14:45] <bigbrovar> Quintasan: Well am just looking for a way to setup kde build environment (trying to build the latest amarok from git)  before I use a metapackaged named kde-devel, but it seems to be missing on kubuntu 11.04
[14:45] <Quintasan> bigbrovar: hmmm, sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[14:46] <yofel> hm...
[14:46] <bigbrovar> Quintasan: thanks, I wonder why i didnt even think of that before. :p 
[14:46] <Quintasan> bigbrovar: We also have Project Neon if you want to run MASTER KDE
[14:47] <apachelogger> sheytan: http://i.imgur.com/UuAVu.png
[14:47] <apachelogger> look how beautiful
[14:47] <bigbrovar> Quintasan: em, I think I would pass. Just wanna test run the latest amarok :p
[14:47]  * yofel reminds Quintasan that amarok doesn't build in neon
[14:47] <shadeslayer> yofel: hehe
[14:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: dude, grab a clean tarball
[14:48] <yofel> shadeslayer: this is freakin confusing..
[14:48]  * Quintasan reminds yofel that Amarok wants qtscriptgenerator
[14:48] <shadeslayer> the one from debian is no good
[14:48] <sheytan> apachelogger does squers, mmmm, amazing :)
[14:48] <yofel> I know... to much todo -.-
[14:48] <yofel> shadeslayer: why?
[14:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: the one from debian has l10n stuff
[14:48] <shadeslayer> which we don't need
[14:48] <yofel> why not just put that into not-installed?
[14:48] <yofel> then agian...
[14:49] <yofel> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/include/libkleopatraclient/core/command.h': No such file or directory
[14:49] <yofel> *sigh*
[14:49] <shadeslayer> yes
[14:49] <shadeslayer> yofel: i have the fixed install files for that, but
[14:49] <shadeslayer> that file *should* be installed
[14:50] <shadeslayer> and if you notice, its only kleopatra which has these issues
[14:51] <yofel> it even has the install command in CMakeLists.txt, wtf...
[14:51]  * sheytan must admit he is proud of his lightdm mockup
[14:51] <Quintasan> Dem squares
[14:51] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:51] <shadeslayer> yofel: i have no idea whats happening there
[14:51] <apachelogger> sheytan: http://i.imgur.com/2hOac.png
[14:52] <apachelogger> getting there
[14:52] <apachelogger> you knwo
[14:52] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:52] <apachelogger> you really could do this yourself
[14:52] <sheytan> apachelogger i hate to code. Really
[14:53] <apachelogger> that is not coding
[14:53] <sheytan> it doesn't give me this feeling i have when gimping
[14:53] <apachelogger> you define your UI
[14:53] <apachelogger> nothing more than that
[14:53] <apachelogger> make a canvas here
[14:53] <apachelogger> put an item in there
[14:53] <apachelogger> add a rect that is blue and put a text beneath it
[14:54] <apachelogger> add another item at the bottom, put a row of date and time in there, draw a rect of height 1 and below it a row of 3 rects with diffrerent colors
[14:54] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/625190/
[14:54] <Quintasan> apachelogger: instead of typing that, do what sheytan tells you to do :P
[14:54] <Quintasan> will be faster :P
[14:54] <apachelogger> most boring thing ever
[14:54] <apachelogger> also row gives you the ability to define an animation as things get add/removed (which would then be the selection of a user)
[14:55] <sheytan> apachelogger no thank you :D
[14:55] <apachelogger> nothign exciting to see,please move on
[14:55] <apachelogger> actually getting a more sexy drop shadow for the text might require a develop0r
[14:55] <Quintasan> apachelogger: It involves Pyth0rn?
[14:55] <sheytan> i don't think so ;d
[14:56] <yofel> shadeslayer: may I hit you?
[14:56] <yofel> -- NO usable assuan found for Kleopatra
[14:56] <shadeslayer> O_O
[14:56]  * Quintasan hands yofel a hammer
[14:56] <Quintasan> There you go, Sir.
[14:56] <yofel> and libkleopartaclient is only build with that condition
[14:56]  * shadeslayer grabs a fez
[14:57] <shadeslayer> sigh
[14:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Who the hell taught you to read build log :P
[14:57] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:57] <apachelogger> all the exams must have caused permanent damage, so he forgot again
[14:57] <yofel> lol
[14:58] <Quintasan> I sense that apachelogger was responsible for part of shadeslayer's training
[15:00] <shadeslayer> yofel: one other thing, libindicate-qt-dev is set as Not found
[15:00] <Quintasan> I and yofel == Recommends: reading-logs (>= 1.0)
[15:00] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ^
[15:01] <shadeslayer> indeed
[15:01] <yofel> heh
[15:01] <yofel> not sure what's wrong with indicate yet
[15:01] <sheytan> apachelogger: so will you put this mockup on the mailing list?
[15:02] <sheytan> for me ;D
[15:03] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw if you took debians packaging + debians tarball, you'd get a shit load of mo files in the install files that you would have to get rid of manually
[15:03] <yofel> which I currently did, I'll rather find the issues and let you fix them :P
[15:03] <shadeslayer> hehe
[15:04] <shadeslayer> i just copied over the install files from our old packaging
[15:05] <shadeslayer> yofel: you deleted each one of them by hand? :O
[15:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: let me rephrase that to:  I didn't even get as far as bothering about that yet
[15:05] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:07] <shadeslayer> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[15:07] <shadeslayer> great
[15:07] <yofel> libindicate-qt-dev seems to need pkg-config
[15:07] <yofel> wonder why that worked before
[15:08] <shadeslayer> yofel: uhm : W: GPG error: http://localhost oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F0FB9482DA96D7C5
[15:08] <yofel> in pbuilder?
[15:08] <shadeslayer> yes
[15:08] <yofel> I probably didn't add the key
[15:08] <yofel> pbuilder should ignore it anyway
[15:09] <yofel> yeah, installing pkg-config helps for indicate-qt
[15:09] <yofel> now back to assuan...
[15:09] <shadeslayer> alright
[15:09] <shadeslayer> yofel: i think we have to install libassuan2-dev
[15:10] <shadeslayer> but i can't test since i'm now getting unmet deps
[15:10] <yofel> libassuan-dev 2.0 Breaks libassuan2-dev
[15:10] <yofel> latter has a removal request 
[15:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: plz put sheytan's mockup on the ml
[15:11] <yofel> wth, does 'vanilla' flavour even mean...
[15:11] <shadeslayer> didn't you do that already?
[15:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: icecream? :D
[15:12] <yofel> nah, my icecc setup is broken here
[15:12] <yofel> :P
[15:13] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[15:14] <apachelogger> I think I am too stupid for qml models :O
[15:15] <yofel> hm, maybe the point is that I'm building for O
[15:15]  * yofel builds for natty
[15:16] <shadeslayer> done
[15:17] <shadeslayer> darn
[15:21] <jussi> apachelogger: can has image ?
[15:21] <apachelogger> see friendface comment
[15:21] <apachelogger> sheytan: can you qml export your mock
[15:22] <sheytan> apachelogger sec
[15:22] <apachelogger> or at least manually export all them pictures?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: did it build fine for natty?
[15:24] <yofel> no, missing build-deps
[15:24] <shadeslayer> @_@
[15:24] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: probably boost
[15:25] <yofel> right
[15:25] <shadeslayer> yeah i bumped that for oneiric
[15:25] <jussi> shadeslayer: wow. looks like they did some updating... there are natty repos here o.O http://sipsimpleclient.com/wiki/SipInstallation
[15:26] <yofel> well, if that builds for natty now we can take the packaging and go straight to 4.6 for O
[15:26] <shadeslayer> jussi: ok, so what do you want me to do now :P
[15:26] <yofel> geh
[15:26] <jussi> shadeslayer: get it into debian! :D
[15:27]  * yofel adds natty-backports to pbuilder
[15:27] <shadeslayer> jussi: yeah i'm working on them
[15:28] <sheytan> apachelogger http://www.sendspace.com/file/6rnndg
[15:28]  * sheytan feels weak. Need coffee
[15:37] <sheytan> coffee + apple cake = win!
[15:38] <yofel> shadeslayer: builds fine in natty
[15:38] <yofel> well, the cmake part at least
[15:38] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:38]  * sheytan dissapears for a while
[15:39] <yofel> wonder what's wrong with our libassuan2, although kdepim 4.6 doesn't complain about it
[15:43] <shadeslayer> jussi: whats your email id?
[15:43] <jussi> shadeslayer: for blink? or? 
[15:44] <shadeslayer> for blink
[15:44] <shadeslayer> i'm sending a email to their mailing list
[15:44] <jussi> jussi01 at sip2sip
[15:44] <jussi> oh wait
[15:44] <jussi> jussi at jussi01 dot com
[15:44] <shadeslayer> okay xD
[15:44] <jussi> I thought you wanted to try call me
[15:44] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:44] <jussi> (which would be nice to test
[15:45] <shadeslayer> i actually need someone to test file transfers on tp
[15:45] <shadeslayer> since they apparently fixed that
[15:45] <apachelogger> great
[15:45] <apachelogger> now my sheytan is gone
[15:45] <jussi> shadeslayer: i cant seem to make the damn thing apply changes to setting though.
[15:45] <apachelogger> meh
[15:45] <shadeslayer> jussi: for blink?
[15:46] <jussi> shadeslayer: yup
[15:46] <shadeslayer> no idea 
[15:46] <shadeslayer> jussi: maybe you need to refresh the cache?
[15:46] <jussi> shadeslayer: huh? 
[15:47] <shadeslayer> jussi: after applying settings : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
[15:47] <jussi> shadeslayer: O.o
[15:48] <jussi> shadeslayer: I shouldnt have to do anything like that to apply which micrphone I want the damn thing to use
[15:48] <yofel> what's blink btw.? ^^
[15:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: sip client
[15:48] <jussi> yofel: sip client
[15:48] <jussi> LOL
[15:48] <shadeslayer> xD
[15:48] <yofel> heh
[15:48] <jussi> yofel: http://icanblink.com/
[15:49] <shadeslayer> sure you can
[15:50] <shadeslayer> ok mail sent, lets see what happens
[15:51] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: do you haz tp kde with file transfer ability?
[16:00] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/t13ao.png
[16:00] <apachelogger> I have .prn in my qml
[16:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i don't see .prn
[16:02] <yofel> now that starts resembling something ^^
[16:02] <yofel> not .prn though
[16:02] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: probably
[16:02] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: compiled yesterday
[16:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: make the icons at the bottom oxygen icons
[16:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ?
[16:03] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: do you have the file transfer branch?
[16:03] <shadeslayer> s/branch/repo
[16:03] <Quintasan> no
[16:04] <Quintasan> which module I want?
[16:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you realize that oxygen icons do not fit into the overall theme?
[16:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: This theme is fabulous
[16:04] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/QCiDo.png
[16:05] <Quintasan> background is meh
[16:05] <Quintasan> but the design
[16:05] <Quintasan> is so stylish
[16:06] <yofel> they look like the oxygen buttons though, just monochrome
[16:06] <yofel> which fits better here
[16:12] <shadeslayer> well
[16:12] <shadeslayer> i quite like the design myself ;)
[16:12] <shadeslayer> just the icons at the bottom look weird .... different from the oxygen icons
[16:12] <yofel> how?
[16:15] <sheytan> apachelogger done something cool for me? :D
[16:15] <yofel> http://i.imgur.com/QCiDo.png
[16:16] <yofel> sheytan: ^
[16:16] <sheytan> yofel great! :D
[16:16] <sheytan> apachelogger now add some animations and create a screencast to blow us away with this beauty ;d
[16:17] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://paste.kde.org/81181
[16:18] <shadeslayer> you need latest tp-qt btw
[16:18] <shadeslayer> kfoodtiem
[16:19] <Quintasan>  0.71
[16:19] <Quintasan> fffff
[16:20]  * Quintasan updates in oneric
[16:20] <Quintasan> one-eye-rick
[16:20] <yofel> O
[16:20] <yofel> shorter :P
[16:21] <Quintasan> like
[16:21] <Quintasan> O_O
[16:21] <Quintasan> it should be
[16:21] <Quintasan> O_X
[16:21] <Quintasan> :D
[16:21] <yofel> :D
[16:23] <apachelogger> sheytan: I am not meant to do that
[16:23] <sheytan> apachelogger but you can :)
[16:24] <apachelogger> no I can't 
[16:24] <apachelogger> I do not have the next idea about that stuff
[16:24] <sheytan> apachelogger what do you mean with next idea?
[16:25] <Quintasan> apachelogger: When using source format 3.0 I need 7 in compat and depends
[16:25] <Quintasan> ?
[16:25] <apachelogger> no
[16:26] <Quintasan> huh?
[16:26] <yofel> I think you're mixing debhelper and dpkg-source
[16:27] <yofel> don't think they depend much on the other
[16:27] <Quintasan> yeah
[16:27] <Quintasan> herpty derpty
[16:27] <Quintasan> whatever, updating telepathy-qt4
[16:27] <yofel> you might as well update to dh8
[16:27] <apachelogger> brrrr
[16:27] <apachelogger> what a madness this qml is
[16:28] <apachelogger> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qml-package.html
[16:28] <Quintasan> I thought u like QML
[16:30] <yofel> shadeslayer: if you add pkg-config to build-depends and use boost 1.42 kdepim builds fine on natty, so I would say add go straight ahead to 4.6 for oneiric
[16:31] <apachelogger> sheytan: can you send me the play button like button thing from the login box plz
[16:32] <sheytan> apachelogger sure
[16:34] <sheytan> apachelogger http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8624/gobutton.png
[16:39] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Now I have that file transfer magic
[16:48] <JontheEchidna> sweet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B0x#Object_construction_improvement
[16:54] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/ZkwpP.png
[16:54] <apachelogger> would be more fun without a netbook
[17:02] <yofel> that login screen will mark the last used entry by default so I can just press enter to choose it?
[17:03] <yofel> or better show the password dialog right away if only one user exists
[17:06] <apachelogger> implementation details
[17:07] <sheytan> yofel if only one user will exist,  it should show the password dialog right away. If more, it can show default or last used user
[17:07] <apachelogger> more interesting is how to drag a selected user from the listview into the login box
[17:07] <apachelogger> which seems like a fishy thing no matter how to approach the problem
[17:09] <sheytan> apachelogger you just click on a avatar, then it slides down to its centered possition, the other avatars slide to eachother (to don't leave empty space), then the input box for password appears with the login button. You type a password, hit enter or click the button and youre done
[17:09] <apachelogger> AND HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT THAT WITHOUT HAVING UGLYNESS SPEW OUT OF ALL ENDS????????
[17:10] <yofel> sheytan: then I'm happy ^^
[17:10] <sheytan> apachelogger ends of what?
[17:10] <Quintasan> code
[17:10] <Quintasan> He most likely meant code
[17:11] <Quintasan> since if mockup is ugly then we dont want it
[17:11] <Quintasan> and this one is certainly interesting
[17:11] <sheytan> i don't get it. it's all simple with some animations. How an implementation of this should be crappy at code side  when using a qml?
[17:12] <Quintasan> talk is cheap
[17:12] <Quintasan> show me the code
[17:12] <sheytan> Quintasan you know i'm not writing code. Just designing. Even if, i still think it shouldn't be hard to implement this
[17:12] <Quintasan> sheytan: You say it is simple, using effects might be simple but implementing them is hard
[17:13] <Quintasan> Besides, it's apachelogger we are talking about
[17:13] <JontheEchidna> <3 range-based-for-loops in c++0x: http://paste.ubuntu.com/625268/
[17:13] <sheytan> Quintasan: Well, i'm leaving this for developers. They know how to take care of that
[17:13] <Quintasan> He sometimes gets more mad than he usually is
[17:13] <sheytan> Quintasan we all do
[17:14] <Quintasan> sheytan: apparently, the last step in every Kubuntu Developer is becoming an apachelogger
[17:14]  * Quintasan isn't crazy enough
[17:15] <sheytan> if this helps you create better software, then why not :D
[17:15] <Quintasan> sheytan: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development
[17:15] <Quintasan> Kubuntu Ninja Dojo
[17:16] <sheytan> I don't think i'll have that much time
[17:16] <Quintasan> I thought the same stuff
[17:16] <Quintasan> Now look what the hell I am doing :P
[17:17] <sheytan> Quintasan do you work? Or school only?
[17:17] <Quintasan> part-time work and school
[17:17] <Quintasan> also
[17:17] <Quintasan> >only
[17:17] <Quintasan> >school only
[17:17] <sheytan> when i was in school, i was spending lots more time helping kubuntu
[17:18] <sheytan> that's how the new page came out
[17:18] <sheytan> which is still under development (code side)
[17:19] <sheytan> DarkwingDuck: hey, ping me when you come back. I'm uploading the kubuntu web page code for ya so you can start developing it :)
[17:19] <Quintasan> sheytan: Well, whatever, the type of work you are doing is what we need now
[17:19] <Quintasan> no matter how software is good, if we have a shitty website we make a BAD first impression
[17:19] <sheytan> Quintasan you mean artwork?
[17:20] <Quintasan> or artwork, yeah
[17:20] <sheytan> right
[17:20] <sheytan> that's why i'm doing it
[17:20] <sheytan> the web site sucks as hell
[17:20] <Quintasan> sheytan: feeling like designing a Project Neon Badge at some point?
[17:21]  * yofel wonders if he should bother to mention the wiki...
[17:21] <sheytan> yofel already did
[17:21] <sheytan> but it's crap. need a new one
[17:22] <sheytan> Quintasan sure, but not today :)
[17:23]  * sheytan is out for a while
[17:27]  * apachelogger is too stupid for this
[17:28] <Quintasan> I'll pretend I did not see the statement above
[17:28] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^
[17:29]  * yofel wonders if you can edit the channel logs
[17:34] <tsimpson> yofel: not unless you can convince the canonical sys-admins to do it
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: okay, trying to send you a wallpaper
[17:34] <yofel> figured as much ^^
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: nope
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: still grayed out
[17:35] <Quintasan> It's grayed out in here too
[17:35] <shadeslayer> ffffuuuuuuuu
[17:35] <shadeslayer> and its grayed out just for you
[17:43] <JontheEchidna> X crapped its pants
[17:45] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: radeon?
[17:45] <JontheEchidna> intel
[17:45] <Quintasan> lul
[17:45] <JontheEchidna> I was starting a VM in virtualbox
[17:46] <mfraz74> what produces the popups when hovering over smilies in either choqok or kmail?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> mfraz74: the tooltip i guess?
[17:55] <mfraz74> shadeslayer: well any idea why it breaks after a while to look like this http://twitpic.com/5an2dc ?
[17:55] <mfraz74> also seems to do something funny when I do a whois in Choqok
[17:55] <shadeslayer> to say my interwebz is being sucky would be a understatement
[17:56] <shadeslayer> mfraz74: in the last emoticon?
[17:56] <apachelogger> BS
[17:56] <apachelogger> supposedly the best option would be to move the items around
[17:57] <apachelogger> the thought of that scares me quite a bit though
[17:57] <mfraz74> shadeslayer: where that white box is should be the original smily in text format ie. ;)
[17:57] <shadeslayer> right
[17:58] <shadeslayer> it is broken indeed
[17:58] <shadeslayer> mfraz74: i have no idea, could you please file a bug
[17:58] <mfraz74> shadeslayer: what do i file it against?
[17:58] <JontheEchidna> ^with KDE
[17:59] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i think he means what component
[18:00] <mfraz74> yes, that's what i meant
[18:00] <shadeslayer> KToolTip would be in kdelibs right?
[18:02] <mfraz74> Odd thing is when I booted up this morning it was working fine, now it isn't
[18:13] <shadeslayer> jussi: ok so upstream just contacted me
[18:13] <shadeslayer> jussi: there's good news and bad news
[18:13] <shadeslayer> jussi: what do you want to hear first?
[18:13] <jussi> bad
[18:14] <shadeslayer> jussi: blink will have to be postponed for next cycle
[18:14] <jussi> why?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> the good news is that they're working on getting the packages into debian but are not 'ready' yet
[18:14] <shadeslayer> jussi: i've forwarded a copy of the mail to you
[18:15] <jussi> ok
[18:19] <shadeslayer> yofel: okay so can push to the kde packagers repo?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> what about oneiric
[18:21] <shadeslayer> so
[18:21] <shadeslayer> jussi: blink postponed
[18:21] <shadeslayer> sorry but i'd rather not have conflicting packages
[18:21] <shadeslayer> makes a mess later on
[18:22] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i'm almost ready with KDE PIM 4.4.11
[18:22] <shadeslayer> will be pushing it in a couple of minutes to bzr
[18:36] <shadeslayer> yofel: assuan still not picked up -.-
[18:40] <apachelogger> how the flip does on make stuff centered in a qml listview
[18:40] <DarkwingDuck> sheytan: ping
[18:44] <yofel> shadeslayer: I don't have a solution for oneiric  other than skipping 4.4 and going to 4.6 which builds fine
[18:45] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:45] <shadeslayer> ok pushing to packagers then, after adding pkg-config
[18:45] <yofel> or disable the lib package if you want to get it to build
[18:46] <yofel> I don't know anything about assuan :/
[18:46] <shadeslayer> me neither
[18:47] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: sounds good
[18:47]  * bulldog98 is ready with kdepim-runtime
[18:47] <yofel> I would just go to 4.6 since that's what we want for both O and natty
[18:48] <shadeslayer> ok so here's the plan
[18:48] <shadeslayer> push with kubuntu_install_headers and libassuan
[18:48] <shadeslayer> do not release this
[18:48] <shadeslayer> go straight to 4.6
[18:49]  * bulldog98 is woundering where to upload the runtime stuff?
[18:50] <yofel> kdepim-runtime/ubuntu IMO, since 4.6 is out we don't need to split the packaging anymore
[18:50] <yofel> or will there be another 4.4 release?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> don't think so
[18:51] <shadeslayer> 4.4.11 was a forced release
[18:51] <shadeslayer> because of some critical bug
[18:51] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: all yours
[18:51] <shadeslayer> branch from lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kdepim/ubuntu
[18:53] <yofel> hm, isn't "[kubuntu-members] Ensure NM 0.9 works with KDE: TODO" done?
[18:53] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I already have a merge request for that, but I can’t accept it, because I haven’t the rights
[18:54] <bulldog98> yofel: that doesn’t work
[18:54] <yofel> bulldog98: what?
[18:54] <bulldog98> It’s making plasma crashing 
[18:54] <bulldog98> NM 0.9
[18:54] <yofel> hm, not for me, but I don't do more than simple wifi
[18:54] <bulldog98> on one pc on the other not
[18:55] <bulldog98> yofel: on the pc it crashes it even doesn’t do wifi stuff
[18:55] <bulldog98> which I find wired
[18:55] <yofel> trace?
[18:56]  * apachelogger has not the slightest of ieas how to make an image in qml grayscaled
[18:57] <apachelogger> perhaps overlay with gray rect on marginal opacity :S
[18:57]  * apachelogger just realized what he said and kicks himself
[18:58] <yofel> package latest kdepim is in progress though
[18:59] <bulldog98> and kded is also crashing, but I have to relogin to reproduce this
[19:02] <bulldog98> yofel: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/300
[19:02] <yofel> doesn't seem to like wicd...
[19:03] <yofel> install kdebase-workspace-dbg and try again..
[19:04] <bulldog98> yofel: btw why is knm-runtime deinstalled when you install 0.9?
[19:05] <yofel> the monolithic app is deprecated upstream so there's no point in splitting the package
[19:06]  * bulldog98 sees that it somehow tries to call the wicd backend, but I don’t know why
[19:08] <bulldog98> Object::connect: No such signal WicdNetworkManager::wwanEnabledChanged(bool)
[19:08] <bulldog98> Object::connect: No such signal WicdNetworkManager::wwanHardwareEnabledChanged(bool)
[19:08] <apachelogger> kaput
[19:09] <yofel> I get the feeling it's written for 4.7
[19:10] <bulldog98> yofel: I thought it depends on it
[19:11] <bulldog98> because there was a change in the solid backend
[19:12]  * bulldog98 needs 30min to download that dbg stuff (I need a speed upgrade)
[19:14] <bulldog98> but I need to lay the cable by myself (25 m)
[19:15] <yofel> apachelogger: btw, was there any talk in randa going on when we'll see 4.6.85?
[19:16] <yofel> *on about when
[19:20] <bulldog98> how can I disable the sound of the keyboard that I have since I installed sound-theme-freedesktop?
[19:31] <apachelogger> bulldog98: sound of the keyboard?
[19:31] <apachelogger> yofel: yes, there is no KDE 5 :P
[19:31] <bulldog98> apachelogger: running oneiric?
[19:32] <yofel> apachelogger: I wasn't talking about KDE, but about 4.6.85 :P
[19:32] <apachelogger> yofel: frameworks 5 will be released ASAP after Qt 5, so I'd suppose no frameworks 5 until tp/alpha of Qt 5
[19:32] <bambee> evening
[19:32] <bulldog98> update an reboot an if you are on tty you get keyboard sounds if you tip something
[19:32] <apachelogger> yofel: oh, all fishy versions
[19:32] <apachelogger> yofel: when its ready :P
[19:32] <apachelogger> yofel: see release schedule
[19:33] <yofel> apachelogger: ah, so 4 days ago, good to know :P
[19:33] <apachelogger> well, you know, dirk is a busy man
[19:33] <bulldog98> and they are annoing (I don’t mean the sound if I normaly tip, you get a a sound if you delete some char for eg)
[19:33] <apachelogger> bulldog98: on tty?
[19:33] <yofel> true
[19:34] <apachelogger> that is completely unrelated to the freedesktop sound theme
[19:34] <apachelogger> but rather a pcspkr thing
[19:35] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I also get it in konversation if I tip and everywhere
[19:35] <apachelogger> well, pcspkr is a kernel module :P
[19:35] <apachelogger> the kernel knows everything you type
[19:35] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how to disable it
[19:35] <apachelogger> whereas freedeesktop only knows what you type in a freedesktop enabled application
[19:35] <apachelogger> tty is certainly not one of those
[19:35] <apachelogger> bulldog98: dunno
[19:36] <apachelogger> blacklist the kernel module I'd guess
[19:40] <sheytan> DarkwingDuck: hey, get the code here: https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/kubuntu.zip?w=87b9f0f8&dl=1 :)
[19:40] <bulldog98> It still pings if I unload that module ar
[19:40] <DarkwingDuck> Garg, I need to log in?
[19:43] <shadeslayer> uh what?
[19:49] <bulldog98> project neon has a bug in calligra package description (it says gwenview instead of calligra)
[20:00] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: thanks, fixing
[20:12] <DarkwingDuck> sheytan: It's not letting me download.
[20:21] <shadeslayer> ok i'm starting with marble
[20:21] <shadeslayer> small and simple hopefully
[20:26] <sheytan> DarkwingDuck: do you have a dropbox account?
[20:27] <yofel> you can share stuff on u1
[20:27] <yofel> (when it works for a change)
[20:27] <sheytan> yofel no kde version no using it. Besides i would have to upload the file again
[20:28] <yofel> true
[20:28] <DarkwingDuck> sheytan: Nope, never used dropbox and when I created an account it still tells me that I'm not authorized.
[20:29] <sheytan> DarkwingDuck: give me your email you have registred with and i invite you then you can get it and we can share artwork for the page like i did with the previous developer :)
[20:29] <DarkwingDuck> david.wonderly@kubuntu.org
[20:32] <sheytan> DarkwingDuck: invitation send, now wait till i put the file into the folder :)
[20:35] <shadeslayer> sheytan: around?
[20:35] <sheytan> shadeslayer yep
[20:35] <shadeslayer> sheytan: i can haz some artwork for first blog post?
[20:35] <shadeslayer> trivial artwork i might add
[20:36] <sheytan> shadeslayer sure, shoot
[20:36] <shadeslayer> sheytan: i want this http://apachelog.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/love.png?w=400&h=160 << in I <3 Kubuntu & KDE
[20:36] <shadeslayer> xD
[20:36]  * Quintasan goes to bed
[20:36] <Quintasan> It's not late but I'm unusually tired :S
[20:37] <shadeslayer> i just had a shot of coffee
[20:37] <shadeslayer> i can't go to bed for another 6-7 hours now
[20:37] <Quintasan> No coffee policy here
[20:37] <shadeslayer> i wish they had coffee injections
[20:38] <shadeslayer> then i wouldn't have to bother with the whole, boil milk and pour coffee in it procedure
[20:38] <sheytan> shadeslayer any size?
[20:38] <shadeslayer> sheytan: same size would be fine
[20:38] <shadeslayer> i have to figure out how to use this editor as well
[20:40] <yofel> I somehow don't like the WYSISYG editor on wordpress so I ended up writing in html till now
[20:49]  * bulldog98 has a nice changlog entry for kdepim
[20:49] <yofel> hopefully shorter than shadeslayers ^^
[20:49] <bulldog98> yofel: equal
[20:50] <yofel> heh
[20:50] <bulldog98> :) added a bunch of sublibs and removed some and so on
[20:52] <DarkwingDuck> sheytan: Got it thank you.
[20:52] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[20:52] <bulldog98> yofel: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/301
[20:52] <yofel> nice, why ubuntu0 though?
[20:54] <bulldog98> yofel: course of local builds and than testing
[20:54] <bulldog98> on my pc
[20:54] <yofel> ah
[20:55] <sheytan> shadeslayer http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9791/shadeslayerbanerr.png
[20:55] <shadeslayer> darn it
[20:56] <shadeslayer> sheytan: use imgur!
[20:56] <sheytan> no, it breaks the quality
[20:57] <apachelogger> I you me gur
[20:59] <sheytan> DarkwingDuck: kubuntu.zip is what you should get :)
[20:59] <shadeslayer> bwahaha
[20:59] <shadeslayer> sheytan: how does it break quality?
[21:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: omg new blog post coming up
[21:00]  * bulldog98 now only needs to build kdepim :)
[21:00] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: nice work
[21:00] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: hmm? :D
[21:00] <shadeslayer> on KDE PIM?
[21:01] <sheytan> DarkwingDuck: sorry, i ivited you into wrong folder. Accept the new invitation please :)
[21:02] <sheytan> shadeslayer the uploaded image has worse quality then the oryginal one
[21:02] <shadeslayer> ^^ huh, never notice that
[21:02] <shadeslayer> *noticed
[21:02] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: that, too :)
[21:02] <apachelogger> ScottK, skaet: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-postponeds needs approval and listing for topics I suppose
[21:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: new?
[21:03] <apachelogger> haha
[21:03] <shadeslayer> wel
[21:03] <apachelogger> that sorta implies there ever was one
[21:03] <apachelogger> lolz
[21:03] <shadeslayer> s/new/first
[21:03] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: +/
[21:03] <bulldog98> :)
[21:03] <shadeslayer> :D
[21:03] <debfx> why do I get mails about blueprints I'm not subscribed to?
[21:04] <bulldog98> debfx: kubuntu-member?
[21:04] <bulldog98> +s
[21:04] <yofel> probably since they're all assigned to kubuntu-dev
[21:04] <apachelogger> ScottK, skaet: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-coding same for this one
[21:06]  * bulldog98 needs faster inet (56 kB/s says apt)
[21:06] <sheytan> DarkwingDuck: you should understand the structure of the folders in dropbox. If you have any questions just ask, if you implement something new to the page, tell me :D
[21:07] <debfx> apachelogger: is it necessary that our blueprints are assigned to kubuntu-dev?
[21:07] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: dude thats fast
[21:07] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i have 30KBps
[21:08] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: that’s at home
[21:08] <apachelogger> debfx: why?
[21:08] <debfx> apachelogger: because the spam needs to stop
[21:08] <yofel> great, we need newer akonadi for 4.7
[21:08] <apachelogger> debfx: yes they need to
[21:08] <apachelogger> debfx: file a bug with lunchpad about the spam
[21:08] <apachelogger> or create a filter
[21:09] <debfx> apachelogger: ok, then we need to set a contact address for kubuntu-dev
[21:09] <apachelogger> null@dev.root
[21:11] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: I am getting ewws from the documentation todo
[21:11] <apachelogger> please move to blueprints as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorkItemsHowto and other blueprints
[21:12] <shadeslayer> sheytan: can you put it somewhere else?
[21:12] <shadeslayer> because imageshack blocks me
[21:13] <shadeslayer> or nvm
[21:13]  * shadeslayer has a idea
[21:13] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: Okay, i'll get them
[21:14] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: My harddrive failed so I'm getting back into the swing.
[21:14] <sheytan> shadeslayer just save it to hdd then add  to blog fro hdd
[21:15] <shadeslayer> sheytan: dude, i can't open that link, but nvm, i downloaded it to yofel's thinkpad and scp'd it over
[21:15] <yofel> hahah
[21:15] <sheytan> lol
[21:15] <debfx> the server team has their bug mailing list as contact address, seems like a good solution to me
[21:20] <shadeslayer> ok so who wants to proof read my post?
[21:20] <yofel> gimme
[21:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/?p=1&preview=true
[21:20] <shadeslayer> anyone else ^^
[21:21] <yofel> shadeslayer: doesn't work, there's a review link at the bottom where you can send mails
[21:21] <yofel> tired it with my neon post already
[21:21] <yofel> *tried
[21:21]  * shadeslayer looks
[21:22] <yofel> the "Request Feeback" one
[21:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: apachelogger check mail
[21:23] <shadeslayer> for some reason, i don't see the image at the bottom
[21:23] <shadeslayer> i hope that gets fixed when i publish
[21:24] <yofel> shadeslayer: about planets, make sure you use http and not https feed links, the planets can't read the https ones
[21:24] <shadeslayer> ah okay
[21:24] <yofel> at least the ubuntu one
[21:25] <shadeslayer> now all i need is a avtar image
[21:25] <shadeslayer> or whatever its called
[21:27] <yofel> the picture is displayed as the html code, otherwise nice. In the first sentence you wrote i'll (missing capital)
[21:28] <yofel> more like part of the img html is missing it seems
[21:28] <sheytan> ttime to sleep
[21:28] <sheytan> bye guys
[21:28] <yofel> gn
[21:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: dunno why it's not working
[21:35] <yofel> what I see is
[21:35] <yofel> <img class=”size-full wp-image-5″ title=”I <3 KDE & Kubuntu” src=”http://kshadeslayer.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/shadeslayerbanerr.png” alt=”I 
[21:35] <yofel> as a link to the image
[21:36] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:36] <yofel> wait, after refreshing I only see
[21:36] <yofel> <img class=”size-full wp-image-5″ title=”I 
[21:36] <shadeslayer> yep, i'm trying to fix that
[21:36] <yofel> I guess it doesn't like the < ^^
[21:36] <shadeslayer> i have no idea whats happening
[21:36] <shadeslayer> maybe
[21:36] <shadeslayer> i'll add a unicode <3 then :P
[21:36] <yofel> hehe
[21:38] <apachelogger> I am spamming right now
[21:38] <apachelogger> spam spam spam spam
[21:38] <shadeslayer> yofel: try now
[21:38] <yofel> shadeslayer: <3
[21:38] <shadeslayer> yus
[21:38] <apachelogger> I think I broke the intartubes
[21:38] <yofel> works :)
[21:38] <apachelogger> Still working... the gmail sez
[21:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: y u spam me/
[21:40] <apachelogger> ?
[21:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because i ♥ you
[21:40] <yofel> ^^
[21:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: On the Kubuntu front we have a action packed release cycle with possibly a new display manager ( LightDM *possibly* replacing KDM )
[21:41] <apachelogger> that needs to go
[21:41] <shadeslayer> why? :(
[21:41] <apachelogger> neither true nor accepted nor anything
[21:41] <apachelogger> that is only dangeruos
[21:41] <shadeslayer> thats why i wrote *possibly*
[21:41]  * apachelogger would rather not get flamed again
[21:41] <shadeslayer> oh this stays then :P
[21:42]  * shadeslayer adds "Flame apachelogger for this one"
[21:42] <apachelogger> you realize that all of kubuntu is getting into cross fire over not commiting a crime, right?
[21:42] <shadeslayer> yeah i know, removing, i was just kidding ;)
[21:42] <apachelogger> otherwise good read
[21:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you not want to maintain phonon in qtwebkit?
[21:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: not yet
[21:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: maybe at some point in the future
[21:43] <shadeslayer> but i'm just swamped with work now
[21:43] <apachelogger> that point better be soon
[21:43] <apachelogger> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-multimedia&m=130779689626212&w=2
[21:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: oh btw, for a item that has been postponed
[21:44] <shadeslayer> do i list a reason on the white board why it has been postponed?
[21:44] <apachelogger> yes
[21:45] <apachelogger> what is being posponed?
[21:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: blink
[21:45] <apachelogger> why is it being postponed?
[21:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://lists.ag-projects.com/pipermail/sipbeyondvoip/2011-June/001961.html
[21:46] <apachelogger> this company is weird^3
[21:46] <apachelogger> but so be it
[21:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: "On the Kubuntu front we have a action packed release cycle with a new package manager ( Muon replacing KPackageKit ), a focus on improving Kubuntu on ARM and touchscreen devices ( as Harald Sitter documents it in this blogpost ) and loads of other stuff!"
[21:47] <shadeslayer> better?
[21:47] <apachelogger> Arrr-m
[21:48] <shadeslayer> ok so i'm publishing it
[21:53] <ScottK> apachelogger: Done.
[21:53] <shadeslayer> time to add to planets
[22:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: merci
[22:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: usually you'd add first to planets and then publish :P
[22:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uh .. the post won't get picked up?
[22:05] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[22:05] <apachelogger> if I wrote a planet software it would not
[22:05] <apachelogger> first scan: add new entry to db
[22:05] <apachelogger> next scan with first entry: planetize blog post
[22:06] <apachelogger> an alternate approach would be: rescan config -> new blog -> add to db -> first scan with entry published *past* db entry creation -> planetize 
[22:07] <apachelogger> eitherway posts published before adding to the planet config would not get on the planet
[22:07] <shadeslayer> hmm
[22:07] <shadeslayer> i'll just mark it as private and publish again
[22:07] <shadeslayer> should work then
[22:08] <apachelogger> not if publishing timestamp is the same :P
[22:08] <yofel> I doubt the feed would send out a new entry
[22:10] <apachelogger> yofel: please note that items assigned to kubuntu-members must not be anything but TODO
[22:10] <yofel> oh, ok
[22:10] <apachelogger> kubuntu-members acts as place holder since the work items stuff does not support no-assignee right now
[22:11]  * yofel wonders how one can name a mobile barcode lib 'Prison'
[22:11] <apachelogger> liboobs > libprison
[22:12] <yofel> ...
[22:13] <shadeslayer> *sigh* 5159/14203
[22:13] <shadeslayer> there are like a bazillion revisions in here
[22:13] <yofel> ubuntu planet config?
[22:13] <shadeslayer> yes
[22:13] <yofel> heh
[22:13] <apachelogger> someone should wipe the history
[22:14] <apachelogger> like amarokz did when they moved to gitty
[22:14] <apachelogger> it is not like stuff from 5 years ago are going to be very intersting 
[22:14] <shadeslayer> ^^
[22:15] <yofel> I don't think that was ever anywhere than bzr :P
[22:15] <apachelogger> yofel: so?
[22:15] <apachelogger> oh, I only mentioned amarok because they did it successfully 
[22:15] <yofel> well, true too
[22:16] <apachelogger> I doubt many people have a clone of the planet and update it weekly
[22:16] <apachelogger> and I suppose rebranching when one needs to change something in like 3 years is not that much a problem
[22:16] <shadeslayer> it would be so much fun if there was a power outage suddenly
[22:16] <apachelogger> did my lightdm mail to kubuntu-devel get moderated btw?
[22:17] <yofel> I think that branch get's updated pretty frequently. Only the config.ini though
[22:17]  * apachelogger also thinks he sent the todo mail with the wrong mail addy ^^
[22:17] <shadeslayer> lol
[22:17] <apachelogger> yofel: yeah, not by the same people over and over again though :P
[22:17] <shadeslayer> nope
[22:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you sent the todo mail to the right email
[22:17] <yofel> yeah
[22:17] <d_ed> apachelogger: I got your lightdm one with the mockup
[22:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: but from the wrong one
[22:18] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[22:18]  * apachelogger cancels 
[22:19] <shadeslayer> omg done
[22:20] <shadeslayer> wtf http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/
[22:20] <shadeslayer> oh
[22:20] <apachelogger> is kdepim 4.6.0 packaged yet?
[22:20] <apachelogger> gmail is driving me nutssss
[22:20] <yofel> ask bulldog98
[22:20] <shadeslayer> bulldog98 is working on that
[22:21] <apachelogger> d_ed, shadeslayer: now there should be mail
[22:21] <shadeslayer> hmm
[22:22] <shadeslayer> how do i make it publish the post right now
[22:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: move you head close to the display and shout publish
[22:22] <apachelogger> if it does not work
[22:22] <apachelogger> pet your display
[22:22] <apachelogger> if that does not work, tickle your fan
[22:22]  * micahg thinks one should speak into the mouse...
[22:22] <apachelogger> if that does not work, touch your laptop's private parts
[22:22] <apachelogger> but not the USB ports
[22:23] <shadeslayer> oh so i was doing it wrong when i tried to take picture?
[22:23] <yofel> shadeslayer: should publish when you click publish if you didn't edit the settings
[22:23] <apachelogger> they get all sorts of ticklish there
[22:23] <shadeslayer> Status: Scheduled @_@
[22:23] <apachelogger> now you are doomed
[22:23] <apachelogger> !
[22:23] <apachelogger> first rule of wordpress: never ever schedule anything
[22:23] <yofel> micahg: you mean like the guy in the IT Crowd? ^^
[22:23] <d_ed> apachelogger: what's new in this version?
[22:23]  * micahg wonders if anyone here besides ScottK is old enough to get the reference
[22:24] <micahg> yofel: nope
[22:24] <apachelogger> d_ed: compared to what version?
[22:24] <yofel> then I don't know...
[22:24] <d_ed> the one you attached
[22:24] <apachelogger> d_ed: it is the new sheytan mockup made into a qml thing
[22:25] <apachelogger> d_ed: ah, nothing
[22:25] <apachelogger> d_ed: it did not get through to kubuntu-devel
[22:25] <apachelogger> poor devel people ^^
[22:25] <d_ed> ah, and you CCd me directly
[22:25] <d_ed> ok cool
[22:25] <apachelogger> yeah, I did not notice
[22:25] <apachelogger> it all makes sense now:D
[22:25] <apachelogger> also I might have had too much coffee
[22:25] <apachelogger> oh my
[22:26]  * yofel puts rum in apacheloggers coffee
[22:27] <yofel> there you go, have some more :P
[22:28] <micahg> yofel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19BWJQ8kjrw
[22:28] <shadeslayer> is it necessary that my time stamp be newer than that of the newest post?
[22:29]  * yofel actually watched that movie ^^
[22:29] <yofel> been a while though
[22:30] <shadeslayer> okay first post is up at http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com
[22:30] <shadeslayer> omg 25 views already <3
[22:31] <yofel> heh
[22:33] <yofel> It sure is fun watching the Dashboard :P
[22:33] <shadeslayer> it sure is 
[22:36] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I am uploading my results to my personal staging
[22:36] <yofel> you could just use ninjas...
[22:37] <yofel> doesn't matter though since it's released
[22:37] <bulldog98> yofel: didn’t want to brake anything
[22:37] <bulldog98> in ninjas
[22:38] <yofel> hm, right, I've already put 4.7 stuff there
[22:38] <bulldog98> yofel: and I didn’t want to brake kubuntu-ppa not even staging :)
[22:38] <bulldog98> and to maybe rollback the versioning
[22:39] <yofel> staging is there to be broken though :P
[22:39] <yofel> anyway, vm
[22:39] <yofel> *nvm
[22:40] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how do you send mails via an email alias, which only sends you the mails?
[22:40] <yofel> you specify an alternate sender address
[22:40] <yofel> I can't do that since gmx doesn't allow that :S
[22:41] <bulldog98> yofel: I found that out, too
[22:41] <yofel> I wonder if I should move the dev stuff to a gmail acc.
[22:41] <bulldog98> yofel: we need our own mailserver, so we can do anything we want :)
[22:42] <yofel> hehe
[22:42] <shadeslayer> i'd actually like gmail to tell to which account did the email arrive
[22:42] <shadeslayer> that doesn't happen with mailing lists
[22:42] <shadeslayer> ( since i'm subscribed to different lists with different addresses )
[22:43] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I’m downloading every mail to my own system and wrap it trought sieve and my own local imap server
[22:44] <shadeslayer> gmail > *
[22:44] <shadeslayer> i've tried KDE PIM ... Desktop Email clients are not for me
[22:44] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I love kdepim
[22:44] <bulldog98> that’s the reason I package it :)
[22:44] <ScottK> If someone has an idea about http://skitterman.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/look-before-you-leap-kubuntu-maverick/#comment-428 I'd appreciate it if you'd comment.
[22:45] <shadeslayer> thats old
[22:45] <yofel> somehow I'm too used to thunderbird, not that kmail2 is bad though
[22:45]  * claydoh hearts kdepim, too  but has been using gmail for lots of stuff lately
[22:45] <bulldog98> yofel: I use kmail2 since 4.5.?
[22:47] <yofel> I've tried it a few times in the past, kmail2 is pretty nice. But I work with too many mails a day that I can just go and accept a temporary drop in productivity
[22:47] <yofel> something for the summer holidays
[22:47] <shadeslayer> oh that reminds me
[22:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: we have a TODO on moving to OBS right?
[22:48] <shadeslayer> do we want to proceed on that?
[22:48] <shadeslayer> or continue with bzr?
[22:48] <bulldog98> yofel: haven’t lost a mail I know of :)
[22:48] <yofel> dunno, can they do daily builds? I haven't found the infrastructure for that
[22:48] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No.  It's not.
[22:48] <yofel> bulldog98: no, I mean that I'm just slower
[22:48] <shadeslayer> afaik you can git pull in obs
[22:48] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Comment is from today.
[22:48] <shadeslayer> ah
[22:49] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i was talking about the blog post
[22:49] <ScottK> Yeah.  It was.
[22:49] <yofel> let's move that to #p-n
[22:49] <shadeslayer> sure
[22:49] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If you move it to OBS, please remove any reference to Kubuntu.
[22:50] <shadeslayer> ScottK: okay
[22:51] <micahg> ScottK: maybe usb-modeswitch?
[22:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you've used OBS right?
[22:51] <ScottK> My only interaction with OBS has been to ask people to stop building packages on it for Debian/Ubuntu since they were crap.
[22:51] <shadeslayer> ScottK: really?
[22:51] <ScottK> micahg: No idea.  That's why I asked.
[22:52] <ScottK> shadeslayer: That and ignoring mails from people asking my why the Debian package $FOO won't build on OBS.
[22:52] <shadeslayer> hehe
[22:52] <shadeslayer> ScottK: whats the problem with debian packages on OBS?
[22:52] <ScottK> To start with they are generally made by people who don't know anything about Debian packaging.
[22:53] <ScottK> They often have different names than proper Debian/Ubuntu packages and don't conflict with them properly.
[22:53] <yofel> hm, I did get a choqok package to build on OBS on the first try, so it's doable
[22:54] <yofel> their packaging guide for debian is a bit... very simple
[22:54] <ScottK> But from the POV of Kubuntu, I think if you're using opensuse infrastructure to make stuff it's not really right totie it to Kubuntu in any way.
[22:54] <yofel> and not really the debian way
[22:54] <yofel> well, if bzr starts working at some point I'm happy with LP
[22:55] <shadeslayer> ^^ +1
[22:55]  * yofel wonders when that rollout was supposed to be
[22:55] <bulldog98> yofel: Riddell’ll do it :)
[22:55] <yofel> heh
[22:55] <shadeslayer> yofel: i think wgrant was testing it on staging
[22:55] <shadeslayer> but i have no idea what happened after that
[22:56] <yofel> well, you just pinged him, so let's see if he as an update :P
[22:56] <yofel> *has
[22:59] <yofel> the manual uploads are a matter of running 2 commands for me so it's ~ok for now
[22:59] <Riddell> yofel: I think it'll need a sysadmin to do it
[22:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: want this : http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/9223/ ?
[23:01] <yofel> ah, well, we waited long enough already, so no real hurry there
[23:05] <yofel> ScottK: what should I put on the packaging wiki btw. since we're not packaging people? ^^
[23:05] <ScottK> yofel: I've given up.  I just call it KDE and the marketing people can get upset if they want to.
[23:06] <yofel> good idea
[23:13] <shadeslayer> bah
[23:13] <shadeslayer> yofel: the time stamp matters
[23:14] <yofel> heh
[23:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: i'm on planet ubuntu
[23:14] <shadeslayer> but like 3 posts down
[23:14] <yofel> and on planet KDE
[23:15] <shadeslayer> same thing
[23:15] <shadeslayer> but like 4-5 posts down
[23:17] <shadeslayer> hm ... lets try and fix that
[23:19] <yofel> meh, missing symbols again :/
[23:20] <shadeslayer> ah okay, wp is using utc
[23:20] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: saw the post already :)
[23:21] <shadeslayer> yeah that doesn't matter, i want it to be the first post on the planetz :P
[23:21] <yofel> you'll get your chance :P
[23:22] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: so start a new post
[23:22]  * bulldog98 noticed that he forgot to do a introducion at planet.kde.org
[23:23] <shadeslayer> nah, its quite easy, just modify the timestamps
[23:23] <shadeslayer> it'll be fixed in a couple of minutes
[23:23] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: that’s cheating
[23:23] <shadeslayer> :P
[23:23] <yofel> I'll put my kde intro into the next neon update in 2 weeks
[23:23] <shadeslayer> the original time stamp was like in january
[23:24] <bulldog98> yofel: I’ll do that if I post my next post
[23:25] <yofel> and how should I understand the 'if' ? :P
[23:25] <yofel> you'll make apachelogger unhappy like that :P
[23:25] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[23:25] <bulldog98> something like KDE PIM 4.6 in Kubuntu :)
[23:25] <shadeslayer> you don't want to do that
[23:25] <bulldog98> yofel: between my last and the secondlast post there was almost a year
[23:25] <yofel> ah, give me a bit to write up a kubuntu.org announcement for kdepim though. Enough people are confused already
[23:26] <yofel> hehe
[23:26] <bulldog98> yofel: only I post it and haven’t done the packaging
[23:26] <yofel> that doesn't help :P
[23:27] <bulldog98> than he defently has to add my name to that post :)
[23:27] <yofel> if you finish it I'll add you name ;)
[23:28] <yofel> *your
[23:29] <bulldog98> yofel: now I can’t go sleeping until I got it :)
[23:29] <yofel> hey, that would mean I would need to write the post today!
[23:29] <yofel> take your time :P
[23:31] <bulldog98> yofel: I think it’ll be finished within about today
[23:31] <yofel> uh, when the hell did it become monday o.O
[23:32] <bulldog98> yofel: about 30 min ago
[23:32] <yofel> yeah, totally missed it...
[23:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: how many hits did you get btw? :D
[23:32] <shadeslayer> because the hits on my blog just exploded
[23:33] <bulldog98> yofel: I give you an other hit
[23:33] <bulldog98> you forgot a , which made it imposible to build (builddep list)
[23:33] <bulldog98> s/yofel// s/hit//
[23:33] <kubotu> bulldog98: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[23:33] <yofel> 496 views all-time, 8 today, 56 on the day I posted my neon-update post
[23:33] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: that was to you
[23:34] <yofel> the ubuntu folks simply didn't care I think :S
[23:34] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: hehe
[23:35] <yofel> shadeslayer: should I post my neon post to kde after all to compete? :P
[23:35] <shadeslayer> 453 views all-time     66 views today
[23:35] <yofel> 2 weeks late is a bit ... though...
[23:35] <shadeslayer> hahahaha
[23:35] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: the bad was I needed 6 tries to figure that out
[23:35] <yofel> lol, 453
[23:35] <yofel> see how impatient we all were :P
[23:35] <shadeslayer> oh just you wait :D
[23:36] <yofel> maybe I'll post it, but with a note why it's delayed
[23:36] <yofel> anyway, kdepimlibs comes first, I'll give you a handicap :P
[23:37] <shadeslayer> hehe
[23:44] <yofel> grrrrr
[23:44] <yofel> I totally don't get why these symbols are missing because I don't get where they even came from -.-
[23:47] <yofel> ah, found, akonadi/subscriptiondialog_p.h  is a private header, right?
[23:48] <yofel> using namespace Akonadi; - no wonder grep didn't find it -.-
[23:48] <bulldog98> is it possible to set --debbuildopts in .pbuilderrc?
[23:48] <yofel> it is, sec
[23:49] <yofel> I use DEBBUILDOPTS="-j4" here, which gets applied from what I see
[23:49] <shadeslayer> \o/ its at the top now
[23:49] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[23:49] <yofel> …
[23:50]  * shadeslayer goes back to telepathy
[23:53] <yofel> ah, the functions got replaced
[23:53] <yofel> well, seems private from what I see
[23:55] <shadeslayer> i'm taking up kate
[23:56] <yofel> didn't you want to do marble? ^^
[23:56] <shadeslayer> nah, kate is smaller
[23:56] <shadeslayer> :P
[23:56] <yofel> :P
[23:56] <shadeslayer> and its like 4.30 AM, so i'm less likely to mess it up
[23:57] <yofel> you'll need to add a package for the lib stuff that was moved from kdelibs to kate
[23:57] <shadeslayer> right
[23:57] <yofel> katepart IIRC
[23:57] <shadeslayer> i have to split out katepart? 0.o
[23:57] <shadeslayer> was that ever split in kdelibs?
[23:57] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[23:57] <yofel> well, there was a tone of kate stuff in kdelibs that was moved to kate
[23:58] <shadeslayer> right
[23:58] <yofel> libkatepartinterfaces4
[23:58] <yofel> ok, I think I'm done with kdepimlibs, one last build and back to wondering how to write copyright files