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petetegive kexi a try too00:06
peteteit's the best koffice program imo00:07
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reisioKDE4 going to run okay on 500MB RAM?00:59
reisio2GHz+ proc00:59
tsimpsondon't see why not01:00
tsimpsondepending on what graphics card/chip you have, you may have issue with all the fancy effects, but they work fine on my little intel chip01:01
reisiok I'll keep it in the running, thanks01:01
reisioyeah these people will be okay without the effects :)01:01
reisioalthough it'd be cute if they worked, heh01:01
tsimpsonI tend to turn them off after a couple of months, get bored with windows wobbling01:01
reisioI've never cared for fancy effects, but people I know seem to like them :p01:02
reisioand they're good for a few minutes of amusement01:02
reisioI still have copies of Novell's original Xgl demo vids01:02
reisioincluding the narrator guy saying something like "so there you have it, yeah... not really like USEFUL for all that much, but... yeah"01:03
reisiographics acceleration in general though, sure :)01:03
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zarzarhow come the monospace font doesn't render (hinting) the same as all the other fonts?02:02
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C_SmithHey, I'm trying to get Wine 1.2 to work on Kubuntu, and it seemed to work, but it doesn't seem to have made the /home/<name>/.wine/ directory, is there any way it made it somewhere else, or if not,  that I can completely remove Wine and restart?03:22
C_Smithis anyone answering questions here?03:28
KimLarouxsometimes, but it's more often than not very quiet03:29
KimLarouxI guess it's all a question of waiting till someone that actually knows the answer pass by03:30
C_Smithhmmmm, true, and I've had success with regular Ubuntu, guess I'll try another derivitive.03:37
valorieit's Saturday night, and the Europeans aren't up yet03:39
valorieAmericans are out doing something fun03:40
rwwlies!03:41
C_SmithAmericans are likely out partying.03:42
valoriepartying = fun03:47
valorieI hope03:47
KimLarouxit's an urban legend03:47
* valorie is drinking wine, at least, and listening to birdsong03:47
KimLarouxI'm drinking cold green tea (eww..), listening to Dubstep, and teaching myself C.03:48
valorieI mean, if working on the Amarok Handbook doesn't qualify as fun,. what does?03:48
KimLarouxwait, we're Saturday?03:48
valorieSaturday here, all day03:48
valorieevening now03:48
nodragonmorning03:49
jmichaelxall of this is OT!!! i should turn you all in!!!03:56
valoriedang03:56
SIR_Tacowho? what now?03:56
* jmichaelx ok, ok i take it back03:57
* valorie sprinkles the fairy-dust moving the OT to #kubuntu-offtopic03:57
valorienothing to see here, move along......03:57
SIR_Tacoalright.... haha03:57
jmichaelxgeesh, i liked it better with the OT convo03:58
jmichaelxthat will teach me not to complain..03:58
KimLarouxthere's actually a #kubuntu-offtopic channel?03:58
jmichaelxKimLaroux: there is03:58
* KimLaroux raises an eyebrow.03:58
jmichaelxsometimes lively, sometimes dead03:58
SIR_Tacowhat happens if you mention Kubuntu in the kubuntu off-topic channel?03:59
rwwIf it's like #ubuntu-offtopic and you're asking for support, you'd get poked to #kubuntu. Hopefully it's not like #ubuntu-offtopic though, we're all nuts in there.03:59
KimLarouxsounds... great03:59
SIR_Tacohaha04:00
jmichaelxSIR_Taco: mentioning kubuntu in kubuntu-offtopic, would be trying to bring things onto the topic the channel was designed to get away from, therefore making your topic again off-topic04:00
jmichaelxSIR_Taco: you would just be kicked back to #kubuntu04:01
jmichaelx:-D04:01
SIR_Tacojmichaelx: I'm glad you found the joke in that :)04:01
jmichaelxi did04:01
* valorie hands out popcorn04:03
valoriepopcorn is always on topic!04:04
SIR_Tacolol04:04
KimLarouxI <3 amarok too.04:05
SIR_TacoKimLaroux: yes, it's great... don't know why people get all grumpy about the changes in 2.X though04:05
rwwPeople don't like change.04:06
jmichaelxSIR_Taco: it was kind of bad for a while, but has gradually become really good again04:06
KimLarouxActually, I use Aqualung when I want to listen to a whole album. Why? Because Amarok doesn't have any semblance of gap-less playback. And that just sucks.04:06
SIR_Tacojmichaelx: true, but I toughed it out :)04:07
SIR_TacoKimLaroux: never used Aqualung.... I'll have to check that out04:09
KimLarouxIt's a audiophile-level player, supports all sort of DSP plugins and stuff. It was built with quality of playback in mind, no flashy GUI. It doesn't even have laft.fm support.04:10
SIR_Tacolooks like Gimp and Xmms got together and had a child lol04:10
KimLarouxbah, more like it popped out of dark matter or something. It's all standalone, doesn't depend on anything.04:12
SIR_Tacoit does look interesting, I'll have to give it a try04:12
SIR_TacoI'll be back in a minute....04:13
valoriegapless is *almost* there04:14
valorieif you want to help, show up in the #phonon channel04:14
KimLarouxI have all the champagne and glitters waiting for it04:14
valorietdfisher is working on it04:14
SIR_Tacothis stupid game is going to be the death of me I think04:21
SIR_Tacopoor erik04:36
valorieisn't it 'alas poor Yorick'04:37
valorie?04:37
SIR_Tacobut it's easier to suffer the slings and arrows of grave mis-communication :)04:38
valoriepuns+Shakespeare ftw!04:55
SIR_Tacohaha04:56
SIR_Tacovalorie: don't worry... I wont bite my thumb at you05:03
thefosgattecianjoin #chat05:07
SIR_Tacook... fun penguin (and Linux by association) related video... makes me laugh http://youtu.be/bnm85jraE8s05:25
phoenixlzxanyone using Thinkpad T420?05:49
phoenixlzxmy touchpad doesn't word05:50
phoenixlzxwork05:50
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: have you tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad  ?05:52
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: my touchpad hasn't word since I installed kubuntu....05:55
phoenixlzxwork,sorry05:55
SIR_Tacowhat version?05:55
phoenixlzxkubuntu 11.0405:56
phoenixlzxtouchpad:ultranan multi touchpad05:56
valorieI've never had a problem with any of mine05:56
phoenixlzxultranav05:56
SIR_Tacohttp://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191924#c9 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191924#c1605:56
ubottubugs.gentoo.org bug 191924 in Applications "x11-drivers/synaptics-0.14.6 and xorg-server-1.4 are incompatible" [Normal,Resolved: worksforme]05:56
SIR_Tacoseems to be a problem with the xorg.conf file... removing what they suggest in the above posts seems to fix the problem05:57
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: should i edit xorg.conf?05:57
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: I would, yes05:58
SIR_Tacoseems to be a bug, and that's the work-around.... unless you want to wait for a fix :)05:59
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: is this ok? http://paste.kde.org/81013/06:03
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: i added line 606:03
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: seems so... did you remove any other lines?06:04
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: no06:04
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: well, give it a shot06:04
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: ok,i will try. thanks a lot06:04
SIR_Tacotrial and error are good for the learning experience :)06:04
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: X Server down06:09
phoenixlzxFatal Error:No screens found06:09
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: it happens when i installed nvidia nvs4200m driver and run 'nvidia-xconfig'06:10
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: finally i turn off the nvidia optimus in the bios and then it works.06:11
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: hmmm... you could remove the xorg.conf entirely.... it should create a new one next time you boot. Might fix the problem, assuming the fix has been passed down06:11
SIR_Tacothat's very odd06:12
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: i agree.So i should delet xorg.conf and reboot?06:12
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: it definitely wont hurt anything... with any luck it will re-detect everything, and set the right values06:13
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: then i will continue to try.thanks06:14
SIR_Taconp06:14
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: guess what?06:16
SIR_Tacowhat?06:16
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: it still doesn't work...06:17
SIR_Tacohmmm06:17
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: i think i have installed the right driver06:17
SIR_Tacoyou don't have the trackpad toggle off, do you? ;)06:17
phoenixlzxno,idon't06:18
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: you shouldn't have to install a driver, the synaptic driver is in the kernel06:18
SIR_Tacolet me go get my laptop out of the car and see what's going on... give me a minute06:19
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: see this...06:19
phoenixlzxhttp://paste.kde.org/81019/06:19
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: well... seems my laptop doesn't have an xorg.conf file... and everything seems to work fine.... but according to the bug report you should remove "CorePointer" and "CoreKeyboard"  from your xorg.conf that you posted earlier (http://paste.kde.org/81013)06:34
Jigsawhey room06:36
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: i deleted the xorg.conf file,so i don't have an xorg.conf file either06:36
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: sudo xorg -configure06:39
phoenixlzxServer is already active for display 0....06:40
iliashi all. i am running efax v. 3.0.17 and i want to update to v. 3.2.1 to go over some bugs. is there any way to update using terminal?06:42
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: wont work if you're in KDE/X06:42
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: yes,i'm using KDE06:42
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: you'll have to use the command either by loggin in via "recovery console" or by logging out of KDE and shutting down X06:44
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: can i use nvidia-xconfig?06:44
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: yea, you can use that too06:44
phoenixlzxUnable to locate/open X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'06:45
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: should i edit it?06:45
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: yep, see if those "core" devices are in there as I mentioned above06:46
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: i find them..i should delet them,and add "touchpad"?06:47
SIR_Tacoso you have: InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"? should be : InputDevice    "Mouse0"06:48
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: yeah,i have done that. I mean,if i should add "InputDevice  TouchPad"06:49
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: I would try it without first, if it doesn't work, then try adding it. (it really should figure all this out on it's own)06:50
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: boot times are good atleast :)06:52
phoenixlzx:)06:53
SIR_Tacostill no mouse?06:54
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco:06:54
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: yas06:54
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: ...http://imagebin.org/15787406:54
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: also this http://imagebin.org/15787606:56
LINKSWORD2Hey all, who's up at this time of night?07:00
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: how about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9740761&postcount=2207:00
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: no one is up, we're all sleeping... you're just dreaming07:00
LINKSWORD2lol07:01
LINKSWORD2SIR_Taco: I can't get Google Chrome to install. I have tried several times, yet it isn't working.07:01
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: how are you trying to install it?07:02
Graf_Westerholt[08:00:13] <LINKSWORD2> Hey all, who's up at this time of night?  ⇐ not night, it is 0802 here. ;)07:02
LINKSWORD2It's 00:00 here. lol07:03
SIR_Tacoit's 02:03 here07:03
Graf_Westerholt:)07:03
Graf_WesterholtI got up two hours ago.07:04
phoenixlzxhmmm,it's just 14:04 here. so i just working.07:04
LINKSWORD2By the way, anyone know how to change the clock to 24-hour mode?07:05
LINKSWORD2I live by 24 hour mode, and the whole AM/PM thing throws me off. :/07:05
anonbooLINKSWORD2, what do you do with an analog clock?07:06
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: still an overlooked bug07:06
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LINKSWORD2wild, I beat people with analog clocks...07:06
Graf_WesterholtAnalog clock can have 24 hours, too.07:06
SIR_Tacomy watch only goes up to XXIV07:07
wildgoosemy watch battery died so it's a madhatter piece07:08
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, Did you get your drive sorted?07:08
Graf_WesterholtI wonder why the box „Set date and time automaically“ is unchecked but my clock is exaclty set. I never set my clock.07:08
KerrMDHowdy all, any wine users in the house?07:08
Graf_WesterholtMaybe I set a crone job.07:09
wildgooseKerrMD, Probably, what's the next question?07:09
KerrMDGraf_Westerholt: Perhaps it was set at install?07:09
SIR_Tacowine users? or abusers? :P07:09
Graf_WesterholtMy install is a few years ago. :)07:09
Graf_Westerholt!cronjob07:09
LINKSWORD2Nope, wildgoose, I just copied the files that I was using to make Kubuntu look like a Mac system onto a USB key, then did a re-install.07:10
KerrMDwildgoose: I am running the latest wine (I think) with wow 4.1 and on occasion graphical/sound/input issues whenI alt tab out of and back into the game07:10
LINKSWORD2And afterward, installed the files from the USB key.07:10
KerrMDfull screen mode in opengl with the latest ati drivers07:10
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: it still won't work07:10
KerrMDati radeon hd 5770 iirc07:10
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: while i added "InputDevice  TouchPad" into xorg.conf,should i add something else?07:11
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: i mean,there are mouse and keyboard in origin file,and there also have keyboard and mouse section07:13
KerrMDwine is 1.2.2, my mistake07:13
SIR_Tacohmm07:13
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: just for fun (to set my mind at ease, that the mouse is actually working).... open Konsole (Alt-F2 -> type: "konsole"), then type: sudo cat /dev/input/mouse0 and run your finger over the trackpad... you should end up with a bunch of odd symbols... hit CTRL-C to stop it07:16
KerrMDWould any of you know of a room here thet deals with basic computer support? I used to be in a M$ chat room PCHC back in the day and kind of miss helping others in computer or tech areas.07:18
phoenixlzxlol.................................................................07:18
KerrMD"?/07:18
SIR_TacoKerrMD: what would you like to know?07:19
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: http://imagebin.org/15787807:19
KerrMDSIR_Taco:  nothing, I used to be an op in PCHC and was hoping to get into the support game again. If at least, in chat form07:20
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: so i think whether i should add an "InputDevice"Section for TouchPad if i added it07:20
iliashi all. i am trying to update a package but i recieved ths error http://paste.ubuntu.com/624923/. Any idea to go over this problem?07:21
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: but do you get output with the 'cat' command I mentioned for mouse0?07:21
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: a bunch of "????"07:22
KerrMDilias: did you try --force?07:22
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: that's for my laser mouse,not trackpad07:22
iliasno. give me details for it plz.07:22
KerrMDor try purging. It looks  like it's trying to overwrite itsenf07:22
KerrMDitself07:22
KerrMDsudo apt-get purge efax-gtk07:23
KerrMDthen sudo apt-get install efax-gtk07:23
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: ok... but it gave you ????? for the trackpad or the mouse?07:23
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: i move the mouse,and it poured many lines of "????",but i use tackpad,it has no reaction07:25
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: ok... what do you have for devices under /dev/input ?07:25
SIR_Tacoignore event devices....07:26
phoenixlzxby-id     mice    touchchip-1-1.3 by-path    mouse007:26
iliasok. i 'll try it and i 'll report the result. one more thing for now. to update efax i installed eugenesan repos. i rebooted and i know i recieved a warning from system notifications to get some security and bug updates. i gave yes. i see that eugenesan repos something install in my system. is that safe?07:26
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: by-id  mice  touchchip-1-1.3  by-path  mouse007:28
iliasactually the update wasnt completed because of the same problem. efax cannot be updated.07:28
KerrMDeugenesan, I am not familiar with that or the program you are trying to install. I am  just going by the output you posted.07:29
Bugsbaneapachelogger: Does adding the ppa:neon/ppa mean that gwenview, amarok, kate and *all* the apps in neon, will *all* be upgraded to nightly git versions, or do people have to *choose* to install neon versions of specific apps after adding the ppa?...07:29
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SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: you can try changing the "mouse0" in the xorg.conf to "touchchip-1-1.3"07:33
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: but my mouse?07:33
ilias@kerrMD: before i proceed with purge could ypu plz explain me how can i use --force command?07:33
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: and the "InputDevice"Section,how should i change it?07:34
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: when you plug it back in, it should figure it out.... give me a second and I'll mock one up07:35
SIR_Tacophoenixlzx: https://launchpad.net/~andrew-woodhead666 https://launchpad.net/~northridge  maybe?07:40
phoenixlzxSIR_Taco: sorry,but i have other things to deal with,i will try it next time.Thankyou for your help.07:41
SIR_Tacoyou're welcome... I can't replicate the problem, so it makes it hard to figure out the problem07:42
KerrMDAck, did ilias log?discussion with the wife ... ilias, "man apt-get" without the quotes07:47
iliaswell,well,well. i gave purge and then install but look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624942/07:50
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SIR_Tacoilias: did you try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?07:52
iliasno, do i have to do it now?07:53
SIR_Tacoilias: I would try it, yes07:53
iliasi did it. now what?07:53
iliasagain -install?07:53
jussiilias: thats a packaging error. are you using some ppa?07:53
iliasyep07:54
SIR_Tacodid it give an error? or any other feedback?07:54
iliasno nothing.07:54
iliasno answer after sudo dpkg --configure -a07:54
iliasand when i gave install i got the same errors07:55
jussiilias: is this a production system?07:55
iliasand now i dont have installed either my previous version!07:55
KerrMDThanks for picking up my slack guys. Domestics....07:55
iliaswhat you mean a production system?07:56
KerrMDand please advise me if iI've lapsed in my advice07:56
jussiilias: is the system used for important production, ie. if its broken, then how many people suffer? :D07:56
SIR_Tacook... it's far too late/early... (3am)... need to go to bed...07:57
KerrMDnight SIR_Taco sleep well07:57
iliasjust me. but i have to make it from the begin07:57
jussiilias: try this: sudo apt-get remove efax && sudo apt-get install efax-gtk07:58
KerrMDjussi: , no purge?07:58
jussiKerrMD: purge shouldnt be necessry07:58
iliaslooks like it worked!07:58
jussinow check of it actually did work :D07:59
iliasno error message now. should be installed the new version07:59
jussiie. does the program function07:59
KerrMDjussi:  I just ask because I would. never hurts if you're removing07:59
iliaswait07:59
jussiKerrMD: purge would remove config files, and its possible he doesnt want that08:00
KerrMDI had an instance recently where a remove then purge made the diff but that was with ati divers08:00
KerrMDdrivers08:00
jussiKerrMD: in his situation, it shouldnt matter.08:00
KerrMDjussi: just the configs for that program yes?08:00
iliasyep it's the new version remembering my old settings (maybe efaxrc wasn't removed) and it find the modem as the previous did it.08:01
KerrMDjussi: You are saying that a config file could, in no way, be the issue?08:01
jussi       purge           purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too).08:01
KerrMDjussi: I know08:01
jussiKerrMD: for the pastebin problem he had, I would say so.08:01
iliasso, thanks, do i need anything else to do?08:03
iliasand finally solved as i have read googling the issue of sending *.ps files.08:05
jussiKerrMD: the apt-get issue was a conflict of files between 2 packages. we removed the first and installed the second08:05
iliasthank you very much guys for your help. i have to say once again how helpful you are always!08:06
iliasdo i need anything else to do?08:08
LINKSWORD2Well, that didn't go according to plan...08:16
LINKSWORD2For reasons unknown, I'm unable to install anything new to my system.08:17
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LINKSWORD2wildgoose: I'm not able to install Google Chrome, or Pidgin IM.08:48
LINKSWORD2Sorry for not responding earlier. I'm working on 3 computers at once.08:49
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wildgooseLINKSWORD2, What error are you running into08:55
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LINKSWORD2No error at all, it just doesn't install.09:09
LINKSWORD2When I download Chrome to install it, it runs GDebi Package Installer, and appears to install, but it doesn't complete.09:10
LINKSWORD2After it appears to install, I have checked the programs lists, and Google Chrome is not listed.09:10
wildgooseLINKSWORD2, What happens if you sudo apt-get install?09:12
LINKSWORD2I would need the appropriate command line for that.09:13
Graf_Westerholt!chrome09:13
LINKSWORD2Konsole: The following packages have unmet dependencies:09:14
LINKSWORD2 google-chrome-stable : Depends: libcurl3 but it is not going to be installed09:14
LINKSWORD2E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).09:14
LINKSWORD2GAH!!!! I've tried the solutions it recommends, and it's giving me more errors09:17
LINKSWORD2Same stuff.09:17
Graf_WesterholtLINKSWORD2, please pastebin the output.09:18
LINKSWORD2I've already put the output up on here.09:19
wildgoose!history09:20
wildgoose!nolove09:20
LINKSWORD2pastebin.Kubuntu.com09:21
LINKSWORD2.... Fail.09:21
Graf_WesterholtLINKSWORD2, the output of  'apt-get -f install'?09:21
LINKSWORD2Time for a new one...09:22
LINKSWORD2http://paste.ubuntu.com/624989/09:22
Graf_WesterholtYou should not rune 'apt-get -f install google-chrome-stable' You should run 'apt-get -f install' with no packages.09:23
Graf_WesterholtLINKSWORD2 google-chrome-stable is installed.09:24
LINKSWORD2That's not the case. It says it is installed, but it is NOT in the programs directories.09:25
Graf_WesterholtRun 'google-crome' or 'crome' from the commandline.09:26
Graf_Westerholt*chrome of course.09:26
LINKSWORD2What command, specifically?09:26
Graf_WesterholtSorry LINKSWORD2?09:26
LINKSWORD2Is it just "run google-chrome" or something?09:26
Graf_Westerholtok, you do not know how to use the command line?09:27
Graf_WesterholtJust type 'chrome' and hit enter.09:27
Graf_WesterholtWithout the '09:28
LINKSWORD2I can get it to install stuff like Gimp and OpenOffice with commands. But I'm not the most Linux savvy...09:28
LINKSWORD2OK, 'google-chrome' worked.09:29
Graf_Westerholtfine.09:29
LINKSWORD2It's not in the applications menu, however.09:30
Graf_WesterholtLINKSWORD2, yes, maybe it is a bug. But I am sure it is in the menu thex next time you start KDE.09:31
Graf_WesterholtNot being in the menu means not that it is not installed.09:31
LINKSWORD2I've also tried restarting the system a couple times.09:32
Graf_WesterholtTry ALT+F2 and type in google-chrome and hit enter.09:32
LINKSWORD2I'll try again, and we'll see... But I'm expecting the same results.09:32
Graf_WesterholtYou do not have to reboot the system.09:33
Graf_Westerholtrelog in KDE would work.09:33
LINKSWORD2Well, it's also 3 AM here. I'm logging off for the night.09:33
LINKSWORD2And if the problem persists, I'll attack it from another angle later.09:33
LINKSWORD2Sayonara, Graf-san.09:34
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Graf_WesterholtHow can I set the display colour to grey?10:21
fy_ping10:36
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pwn4g3hello everyone, i experience odd behaviour when starting firefox and thundbird. both windows are _not_ maximized. how to turn on maximized on start?11:37
kubu2pwn4g3: maximize and then close. next start will be maximized11:38
pwn4g3kubu2: tried that, doesn't work :(11:39
kubu2pwn4g3: works for me11:39
pwn4g3very odd11:39
Graf_Westerholtpwn4g3 try the setting for the windows at fullscreen.11:40
Graf_Westerholtpwn4g3 right mouse at the title of the window, configure window behaviour.11:40
Graf_Westerholtor better advanced.11:41
Graf_Westerholtspecial applikation settings.11:41
pwn4g3Graf_Westerholt: got that open, where is the setting?11:41
pwn4g3placement?11:42
Graf_WesterholtAt „geomerty“ check fullscreen.11:43
Graf_WesterholtGot it, pwn4g3?11:44
Graf_Westerholtor try 'maximised…' instead of 'fullscreen'.11:45
pwn4g3yes Graf_Westerholt, thanks a bunch :D11:45
Graf_Westerholtnp11:45
pwn4g3ah, interesting, found the cause11:47
pwn4g31.) start firefox 2.) drag unmaximized window to upper left corner 3. use the mouse in the lower right corner to resize as much as possible (will snap to edge) 4.) restart11:48
pwn4g3no need for special settings11:48
kubu2you are really odd..11:50
kubu2what you did can be done just as well by clicking max button11:50
pwn4g3no kubu211:51
pwn4g3when clicking maximize the window manager will _not_ remember it11:51
pwn4g3well, but you are right i am an odd guy nevertheless11:51
Graf_Westerholtpwn4g3, works with only maximize it, close, open, window is maximized.11:51
pwn4g3doesn't for me for whatever reason11:52
Graf_Westerholtthat is ok. :) That' bescause I gave you the other way. ;)11:52
kubu2pwn4g3: you can even drag window to the top edge and it will maximize for you11:54
pwn4g3yea i know kubu2, i love that feature11:55
pwn4g3i like placing them half screen next to each other for debugging :)11:55
szalpwn4g3: I doubt that, I always open FF maximized, just by having clicked its Maximize button on 1st use12:10
pwn4g3oh great, now everyone thinks "there is the idiot that can't maximize a window"12:11
* szal knows that there can be oddities in window behaviour12:13
szaltry e.g. LibreOffice..  window sizes of existing documents will be remembered, but try to open a new document maximized, you'll likely fail12:13
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pwn4g3szal: mine is maximized O.o12:15
desdenova_maybe try to reproduce with a new user account? Maybe it has something to do with false permissions in a temp settings folder or document12:15
szalpwn4g3: ooh nice, mine too..12:16
AterusHas anyone ran in to an issue when you copy a large file to USB data carrier, the system become very slow and laggy. Even typing lags.12:19
szaldefine 'large'12:20
Aterus7.6GB12:20
pwn4g3no Aterus, you mean using dolphin?12:20
szaldefine 'USB data carrier'12:20
AterusUSB key12:20
szalfilesystem?12:21
BluesKajHiyas12:21
AterusAnd the copying speed is extremely unstable ranging from 10 Mbps to 500kbps or so12:21
AterusExt4 on PC and NTFS on the key12:21
Aterusi copied large file in ubuntu before and never had this issue12:21
szalno idea about NTFS-formatted keys12:22
AterusI think i might take that back. My laptop is playing up. I used a different port and it works flawlesly.12:23
amichair!info guarddog natty12:37
ubottuPackage guarddog does not exist in natty12:37
amichair!info guarddog12:37
amichair!find guarddog12:37
ubottuFile guarddog found in kde-icons-mono, openclipart-png, openclipart-svg12:37
amichairum, no12:38
szalamichair: looks like guarddog is dead, last news on their homepage is from March 200712:50
iliashi all. does any one know if i have to fix something in kmix to may hear my modem speaker? i have already given M2L2 commands to the modem but i cannot hear it dial or ring.12:51
pwn4g3is there a replacement project for guarddog?12:56
amichairszal: just looking for the package, guarddog does exactly what it's supposed to so it doesn't really require much updating12:59
amichairpwn4g3: from what I gather, it's all ufw and gufw now. Too bad.13:00
szalamichair: guarddog requires KDE3, I doubt you'll find that anywhere for Natty ;)13:01
amichairunfortunately13:01
szaland the description on the homepage says "firewall for KDE 2" ;)13:01
pwn4g3hm. i'll give it a shot. what harm can it possibly do? (famous last words)13:01
amichairhehe13:01
pwn4g3that is some tidy interface -.-13:03
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smosehi!13:46
smoseI'm using 10.04 and after latest update X won't start. Is there something i could do?13:48
Peace-smose: mm13:58
Peace-smose: selecting another kernel13:58
Peace-?13:58
PiotrNsmose: have you used proprietaty graphisc drivers ?13:58
PiotrNproprietaty*13:59
PiotrNrry*13:59
PiotrNr13:59
PiotrNproprietary*13:59
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Whois there something similiar like caffeine for kubuntu14:15
mfraz74what is caffeine? do you mean kaffeine?14:15
Whonah caffeine14:16
WhoA status bar application able to temporarily prevent the activation of both the screensaver and the "sleep" powersaving mode.14:17
mfraz74https://launchpad.net/caffeine14:17
Whoyep14:18
smozeIs there a good guide for changing video driver?14:31
Graf_WesterholtWho, you can either set a side of the screen that disable the screensaver when you move the mouse to this side or activate other screen edge actions. This will also prevent the srceensaver from became active.14:32
TJBhi14:33
TJBis KDE *really* better than GNOME?14:34
Peace-TJB: kde is different14:34
Peace-kde can be what you want14:34
Peace-so.. it has more option14:34
TJBi keep hearing claims that KDE is the best14:34
TJBwhere is the evidence14:34
Peace-i would say it's better for who likes choice14:35
Peace-TJB: for example14:35
Peace-i can do gnome2 panel on kde in one click14:35
Graf_WesterholtTJB, just try it.14:35
TJBi wish gnome and kde would merge14:35
TJBi hate how apps are made for either gnome or kde14:35
Peace-TJB: btw kwin seems to be better on fps14:35
TJBjust settle your differences14:35
TJBsometimes too much choice is a bad things14:36
TJBthing14:36
Peace-TJB: ok so if you think that keep gnome14:36
Peace-i will keep kde :)14:36
TJBhow can i get kde and gnome t omerge14:37
TJBto merge14:37
Peace-TJB: kwin has more fps ==> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/how-much-does-unity-gnome-shell-affect-performance/14:37
TJBokay14:38
TJBi am surprised actually14:38
Peace-TJB: have you an old pc?14:38
TJBno14:39
Peace-TJB: so...14:39
TJBi thought GNOME was more lightweight14:39
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Peace-TJB: well kde seems more heavy because it is complete14:41
Peace-it has semantic desktop14:41
Peace-so basically you can search words into the file too...14:41
Peace-that burns a lots of resources14:42
Peace-but if you disable that ...14:42
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alex_hi15:31
Graf_WesterholtHi, alex_.15:31
alex_What is your name?15:33
Graf_WesterholtMy name is Graf_Westerholt.15:33
alex_clear15:33
alex_sorry to ask. whom we now speak.15:34
Graf_WesterholtJust call me Graf_Westerholt.15:35
alex_where you from?15:36
alex_excuses are very far15:36
Graf_Westerholtalex_, this is an ubuntu-help-channel. Please join #kubuntu-offtopic for anything else.15:38
Graf_Westerholtalex_, this is an kubuntu-help-channel. Please join #kubuntu-offtopic for anything else.15:38
alex_ok15:39
alex_hi15:43
TJBhi15:52
friesehi15:59
friesei want to install https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa on debian wheezy, that repo does include kde 4.6.4 and the new kontact with akonadi or?16:00
TJBor you could use ubuntu16:01
friesemeh16:01
ratz_hi folks16:02
tsimpsonfriese: it's specifically made for Kubuntu, you could try it on debian, but I'll most likely explode16:03
ratz_i am looking for software in linux which can backup my windows file server etc. Can any one please suggest me what I should do?16:03
frieseok16:03
friesei know that there is a good posibility, kde may not boot after sth.like this, but does that repo include the "new" kontact 2?16:04
tsimpsonI don't think it does16:06
ratz_anyone who can suggest me any backup server like symantec backup?16:07
yofelfriese: no, it doesn't16:08
yofelThe packaging for kdepim2 isn't done yet16:09
yofeland it'll be in kubuntu-ppa/backports when it's out16:09
frieseok, thx16:13
ratz_thanks. i will give it a check16:13
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olskolirchow do i customize my boot screen on natty please?16:19
linduxI'm running the Kubuntu 11.04 live CD and I can't get wifi working. (I also can't get it working on ubuntu 11.04) I've got an HP dm4-1160us notebook. Any suggestions? Is this expected on a live CD?16:22
linduxAnyone around?16:28
TJBperhaps try ubuntu instead16:28
linduxk16:28
TJBubuntu is better anyway16:28
linduxTJB - Ha. I'm having the same problem in Ubuntu 11.04 so I might as well try that channel too. Strange because my wifi  is Intel not even broadcom.16:29
TJBin that case, try Windows16:31
TJBGNU/Linux is a headache16:31
Peace-TJB: -.-16:34
Peace-why you have said windows when intels works16:34
TJBintels?16:34
Peace-you have understood16:34
Peace-don't you?16:34
TJBwindows is easier than gnu/linux16:40
TJBwindows just works16:40
TJBi'm just being honest16:40
davemachi guys anyone know how to install libreoffice database application thru apt-get ?16:43
olskolircwhat do you mean applications davemac ?16:44
davemacwell i installed the libreoffice package with spreadsheet etc but the db app is greyed out, i assume its not installed16:45
yofeldavemac: should be libreoffice-base I think16:46
davemacah ok i'll give that a shot cheers chaps16:46
olskolircfor sql davemac ?16:48
Peace-TJB: this is kubuntu channel16:50
Peace-TJB: so... you have deleted the hope of a user16:50
Peace-to get linux working in few steps16:50
Peace-this is a bad behavior16:50
Peace-if you don't know how to help16:50
Peace-don't16:50
Peace-do it16:50
TJBi'm just saying; windows is easier, by far16:51
olskolirclol16:51
DragnslcrI love the smell of troll in the morning16:51
Graf_Westerholt[17:51:24] <TJB> i'm just saying; windows is easier, by far  ⇐ that is the reason why I use Linux. ;)16:52
PiotrNhere it's early evening and trolls dont smell nicely....16:52
davemacthanks giys that was the right one to install16:53
iliasis there any way when an application crash not to view the report of this crash?16:54
Peace-i don't understand people like you TJB have you a life ?16:54
chachanI don't think windows is easier than kubuntu16:54
Peace-ilias: i guess yes16:55
iliashow? can i fix it?16:55
Peace-ilias: look on help menu16:55
Peace-ilias: there is report bug16:55
chachanin fact, configuring the networking is "harder"16:55
iliasthe help menu of the application?16:55
Peace-ilias: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/12/plasma-desktopNB1753.jpg16:55
yofelilias: what do you mean with 'not to view' - do you get  a crash report and don't want that?16:56
iliasi found this. how can i disable it16:56
BluesKajTJB, do you have a question about kubuntu or are you just trolling ?16:57
iliasyep. i dont want to see the crash screen16:57
Peace-mm16:57
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Peace-nice question ilias16:57
iliasi know it is interesting. the point is if it customisable!16:57
yofelah, drkonqi... good question...16:58
iliasdo you know why i want to customise this?17:00
yofeldoes something crash that frequently?17:01
iliasyep. kmail. when the shutdown and it is running in system tray17:02
iliasyep. kmail. when the system shutdowns and it is running in system tray17:02
iliasand i recieve a crash report about akonandi server17:03
iliaswell, any idea?17:06
yofelseriously no idea if that's possible, #kde might know. A brute force way to do it would probably be17:06
yofelsudo chmod -x /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi17:06
yofelbut an update would revert that17:06
iliasan update of what?17:07
kevin_bHello guys, i'm affected by this x-server bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/50549417:08
ubottuUbuntu bug 505494 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "Mouse events fail frequently and unpredictably, requiring kwin restart" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:08
iliasi gave sudo chmod -x /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi and the system doesnt rely anything17:08
iliasis it normal?17:08
vrubiumHi guys, i'm reading some interesting articles about owncloud, but i dont quite understand how can i use it, any tip?17:08
yofelyes, if it doesn't complain it worked17:09
yofelilias: the file i in kdebase-runtime, so the next KDE update would revert the change17:09
kevin_bso I thought about building a new x-server, is there a max version for compatibility with KDE 4.6.last ?17:09
yofelilias: *is in17:09
yofelkevin_b: doesn't it say the fix is in 1.8 or later?17:13
BluesKajkevin_b, have you installed the recommended video drivers..I have to ask . if so generate a new xorg.conf file, just substitute gdm with kdm on kubuntu:http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/ubuntu-9-10/xorg-conf-file-create-on-ubuntu-9-10/17:13
kevin_bBluesKaj : i'm using fglrx from official repository17:15
kevin_bI dont see any advise aboutvideo drivers. Which one would you recommend?17:16
BluesKajfglrx from official repository is probly the right one, did you install it with jockey?17:17
kevin_bjockey?17:17
kevin_bjust run apt-get install fglrx17:17
DarthFrog!info jockey-kde17:18
ubottujockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.2-0ubuntu5 (natty), package size 12 kB, installed size 136 kB17:18
BluesKajkevin_b, kmenu>apps>settings>additonal drivers17:18
kevin_byofel : seems like I have x-server 1.117:18
iliasin kde somebody advise me to use kdebugdialog. any suggestion?17:18
yofelkevin_b: which release are you on?17:18
kevin_byofel : 2011-04-1517:19
yofelilias: that can disable debugging information that's logged in ~/.xsession-errors but I don't see an option to disable drkonqi there17:19
BluesKajkevin_b, lsb_release -a17:20
kevin_b11.0417:20
kevin_bbtw : I have a cute "No LSB modules are available."17:20
iliasok. thanks. so its useless. is there way to customise drkonqi? i googled but i didnt find anything17:20
BluesKajkevin_b, Let me repeat . kmenu>apps>settings>additonal drivers17:21
kevin_bBluesKaj : went where you pointed, it seems like everything 's fine17:21
kevin_bProprietary driver fglrx tested by ubuntu devs, this driver is enabled and used17:22
BluesKajkevin_b, ok , just making sure17:23
kevin_bSo I was thinking about to try to build a newer x.org x-server,17:24
kevin_bI dunno what i'm doing actually, and what trouble I'm running into :p17:26
BluesKajkevin_b, what makes you think it's an Xserver problem, have you tried to regenerate or edit ?17:28
kevin_bI dunno at all, except that it the bug description matches my system behaviour17:29
kevin_band that it's said it x-server related17:29
kevin_bbtw it is just happenning right now, my irc client got the focus for ever now17:30
kevin_bso fun17:30
kevin_bactually only the textbox will have the focus17:30
kevin_bonly Alt-Tab will defocus and focus another window17:31
mfraz74Just noticed something odd with the display of smilies in Kubuntu 11.04. Can someone confirm?17:31
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kevin_bnone of my Clicks  are taken in account anymore17:31
kevin_bthe system is totally unusable17:31
mfraz74If I hover over a text smily that has been replaced by a picture where I would normally see the original text if I hover over it, I now just get a blur17:32
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mfraz74:(17:32
scottladdHowdy. Havign a few problems with Kubuntu 11.04 and dual monitors on Intel Integrated (Arrondal, i5) graphics.17:33
scottladdWhen I reboot KDE, it seems to randomize the configuration17:34
scottladdAnd when I have both monitors working, the secondary monitor (on HDMI) tens to be disabled at apparently random times.17:34
scottladdAny ideas?17:34
scottladdI'm fully current on patches, btw17:35
kevin_bhow can downgrade to a older X.org xserver?17:35
utusankevin_b, try using radeon instead and see if it' ok17:36
kevin_butusan : you mean radeon drivers?17:36
utusanyes17:36
kevin_btried it, removed it, :)17:37
kevin_bor are you talking about the x-server-xorg-video-radon package?17:38
BluesKajwhich ati card , kevin_b ?17:38
scottladdSigh. Why do I never have problems that anyoen else has answers to? Am I just skilled, or damned? :)17:38
mfraz74This is what I mean http://twitpic.com/5an2dc17:38
kevin_bHD 4650 on laptop17:39
smozehey! anyone got answer for this? after latest updates x server freezez the whole machine. i have radeon hd.17:40
smozesorry for typos17:41
kevin_bsmoze : welcome to the naughty x server bug17:41
kevin_bsmoze : we 're in the same boat17:41
smozekevin_b: so there's no fix for it yet?17:42
kevin_bmaybe it s fglrx related, but anyway the first the bug N°505494 showed off, was after last week update17:43
mfraz74smoze: I take it this is with 11.04?17:43
smozemfraz74: LTS actually17:43
Quintasanscottladd: Well, we can't really do anything about it, KDE might be acting up17:43
kevin_bsmoze have a look at ubuntu bug 505494 and see if it matches17:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 505494 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "Mouse events fail frequently and unpredictably, requiring kwin restart" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50549417:43
mfraz74smoze: ah, well 11.04 doesn't seem to be any better17:43
Quintasanscottladd: I'd recommend that you mv your current ~/.kde somewhere safe and try with fresh settings17:44
scottladdI'll give it a shot. BRB...17:44
Quintasanscottladd: please backup your .kde first17:45
QuintasanI just hope he did back it up17:45
BluesKajkevin_b, according to the Ubuntu the driver you should be using is the driver on this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver17:46
kevin_bhaha : i'm affected by the mighty currently, I can't copy paste17:47
kevin_bthanks anyway17:47
BluesKajjust click the link17:47
kevin_bthe mouse click doesnt have any effect17:48
kevin_bthat s the bug17:48
kevin_bbut it s not frozen17:48
kevin_bjust copying it s ok17:48
kevin_bI mean by earth and alt tab lol17:48
kevin_bs/earth/eart17:49
kevin_bok I'm going to follow this strictly, and get started from there17:49
Roinuxhello somebody know how can i install java17:57
Graf_Westerholt!java17:58
ubottuTo install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.17:58
Roinuxi'm using kubuntu17:58
Roinuxit's doesn't matter?17:59
Graf_WesterholtIt is the same for kubuntu/ubuntu. Does not matter, Roinux.17:59
BluesKaj!kubuntu-restricted-extras , Roinux17:59
ubottuBluesKaj: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:59
Roinuxthanks17:59
BluesKaj!info kubuntu-restricted-extras18:01
ubottukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 43 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB18:01
france1159Hello everyone18:02
amichairdoes someone feel like trying to recreate a bug? (warning: your desktop will freeze, so make sure your open apps are in a disposable state)18:02
france1159I changed the layout keybord by the sys tem configuration but that doesn't work.18:02
france1159i restart my session but nothing.18:03
france1159how can i do this ?18:03
Graf_Westerholtfrance1159, how did you changed it? Maybe you made a mistake.18:03
amichairthe bug goes like so: 1. enable desktop effects 2. open a konsole window 3. try resizing the console window to the left 4. everything hangs!18:04
Graf_Westerholtamichair, afaik this bug is fixed.18:04
amichairGraf_Westerholt: on an up-to-date Natty it ain't...18:05
france1159Graf_Westerholt: Simply by change the layout keyboard in the panel associated to entry device.18:05
Graf_WesterholtI have no problem with konsole windows resizing with desktop effects.18:05
BluesKajRoinux, kubuntu-restricted -extras installs the proper java , flash and multimedia codecs etc for your kubuntu install, installing a seprate java will just make your system clunky18:07
mfraz74any idea what's happened to kopete-gcall in 11.04?18:08
sudokillhow to i enable the kde snow effect automatically on login / startup? atm i have to press meta ctrl + f1218:08
FloodBotK2!netsplit18:12
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:12
Graf_WesterholtI was wrong. :)18:20
amichairI just found bug #760632, it looks like the nvidia drivers are fixed but haven't hit the repos yet. Hope they do soon.18:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 760632 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Resizing Konsole crashes the whole system" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76063218:24
mick-mickhi friends18:26
Graf_Westerholtfrance1159 you have only one layout for your keyboard now?18:27
mick-mickI lost the trash icon from Dolphin18:27
D-coy18:36
sudokilldoes anyone use the snow effect in kde?18:38
Graf_WesterholtAre the bots crazy?18:48
rwwGraf_Westerholt: nope, freenode is having issues today and they're responding accordingly18:48
Graf_Westerholt:)18:48
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ryrychI know I repeat myself :D but I would like to ask those who have n900 and tried out new kontact touch on it?19:11
iliashi all. could you please suggest me a desktop theme witch has blue/dark blue color in task bar, except deep blue which i had already tried.19:12
iliasdeep=big19:13
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mick-mickhola amigos! qué tal?19:50
mick-mickhi19:51
BluesKajmick-mick, yeah english here :)19:51
mick-mickoh19:51
mick-mickpardon19:51
mick-mickI am newer on kubuntu19:51
BluesKaj!pt19:52
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.19:52
mick-mickthks19:53
mick-mickI am looking for a programm like paltalk in Kubuntu19:53
mick-mickI thought Quassel was that19:53
BluesKaj!quassel19:55
Graf_WesterholtBluesKaj, mick-mick is already using quassel.19:56
BluesKajyeah but the factois will tell him what it is19:56
BluesKajfactoid19:56
mick-mickwhat is quassel exactly?19:56
BluesKajan irc client19:57
mick-mickah19:57
mick-mickto learn more about kubuntu?19:57
Graf_Westerholtubottu knows nothing about quassel? Stupid bot.19:57
ubottuGraf_Westerholt: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:57
BluesKaj!info quassel19:58
ubottuquassel (source: quassel): KDE/Qt-based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.2-0ubuntu2.1 (natty), package size 759 kB, installed size 2688 kB19:58
mick-mickI am doing nothing now. Just spending time19:58
mick-mick:)19:59
alivePerson1234what was the name of the other kde irc client that was popular in kde 3.5 ?20:11
rwwkonversation?20:11
alivePerson1234no i was thinking of kVirc i believe20:12
alivePerson1234huh i guess theres a lot of them20:13
BelseruskHi guys. What would go in place of FILE in this?   gedit --sm-client-state-file=FILE20:13
alivePerson1234you should be able to save the session somewhere, it is a gtk app and not kde btw20:15
alivePerson1234i think you need the gedit-plugins package and you can then save the session20:16
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pumahi21:16
pumaam new here21:16
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Bart123hi?21:19
Sentynelhi guys, any news on kde 4.7 beta 2 packages?21:32
soeeSentynel, kde b2 isnt released yet21:39
Sentynelsoee: it been delayed then? release schedule says 8th21:39
soeeSentynel, yes but this week was for kde 4.6.421:40
Sentynelhttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule I'm looking at this21:41
soeeSentynel, yes i know :) but there were some conferences and the schedule is a bit outdated when it comes to beta221:42
Sentynelsoee: okay, cheers21:42
EdD_y22:40
lcbhello22:47
m_tadeuhi there...does anyone know how 2 finger-scrolling works in a single touchpad23:49

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