[00:06] <petete> give kexi a try too
[00:07] <petete> it's the best koffice program imo
[00:59] <reisio> KDE4 going to run okay on 500MB RAM?
[00:59] <reisio> 2GHz+ proc
[01:00] <tsimpson> don't see why not
[01:01] <tsimpson> depending on what graphics card/chip you have, you may have issue with all the fancy effects, but they work fine on my little intel chip
[01:01] <reisio> k I'll keep it in the running, thanks
[01:01] <reisio> yeah these people will be okay without the effects :)
[01:01] <reisio> although it'd be cute if they worked, heh
[01:01] <tsimpson> I tend to turn them off after a couple of months, get bored with windows wobbling
[01:02] <reisio> I've never cared for fancy effects, but people I know seem to like them :p
[01:02] <reisio> and they're good for a few minutes of amusement
[01:02] <reisio> I still have copies of Novell's original Xgl demo vids
[01:03] <reisio> including the narrator guy saying something like "so there you have it, yeah... not really like USEFUL for all that much, but... yeah"
[01:03] <reisio> graphics acceleration in general though, sure :)
[02:02] <zarzar> how come the monospace font doesn't render (hinting) the same as all the other fonts?
[03:22] <C_Smith> Hey, I'm trying to get Wine 1.2 to work on Kubuntu, and it seemed to work, but it doesn't seem to have made the /home/<name>/.wine/ directory, is there any way it made it somewhere else, or if not,  that I can completely remove Wine and restart?
[03:28] <C_Smith> is anyone answering questions here?
[03:29] <KimLaroux> sometimes, but it's more often than not very quiet
[03:30] <KimLaroux> I guess it's all a question of waiting till someone that actually knows the answer pass by
[03:37] <C_Smith> hmmmm, true, and I've had success with regular Ubuntu, guess I'll try another derivitive.
[03:39] <valorie> it's Saturday night, and the Europeans aren't up yet
[03:40] <valorie> Americans are out doing something fun
[03:41] <rww> lies!
[03:42] <C_Smith> Americans are likely out partying.
[03:47] <valorie> partying = fun
[03:47] <valorie> I hope
[03:47] <KimLaroux> it's an urban legend
[03:47]  * valorie is drinking wine, at least, and listening to birdsong
[03:48] <KimLaroux> I'm drinking cold green tea (eww..), listening to Dubstep, and teaching myself C.
[03:48] <valorie> I mean, if working on the Amarok Handbook doesn't qualify as fun,. what does?
[03:48] <KimLaroux> wait, we're Saturday?
[03:48] <valorie> Saturday here, all day
[03:48] <valorie> evening now
[03:49] <nodragon> morning
[03:56] <jmichaelx> all of this is OT!!! i should turn you all in!!!
[03:56] <valorie> dang
[03:56] <SIR_Taco> who? what now?
[03:57]  * jmichaelx ok, ok i take it back
[03:57]  * valorie sprinkles the fairy-dust moving the OT to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:57] <valorie> nothing to see here, move along......
[03:57] <SIR_Taco> alright.... haha
[03:58] <jmichaelx> geesh, i liked it better with the OT convo
[03:58] <jmichaelx> that will teach me not to complain..
[03:58] <KimLaroux> there's actually a #kubuntu-offtopic channel?
[03:58] <jmichaelx> KimLaroux: there is
[03:58]  * KimLaroux raises an eyebrow.
[03:58] <jmichaelx> sometimes lively, sometimes dead
[03:59] <SIR_Taco> what happens if you mention Kubuntu in the kubuntu off-topic channel?
[03:59] <rww> If it's like #ubuntu-offtopic and you're asking for support, you'd get poked to #kubuntu. Hopefully it's not like #ubuntu-offtopic though, we're all nuts in there.
[03:59] <KimLaroux> sounds... great
[04:00] <SIR_Taco> haha
[04:00] <jmichaelx> SIR_Taco: mentioning kubuntu in kubuntu-offtopic, would be trying to bring things onto the topic the channel was designed to get away from, therefore making your topic again off-topic
[04:01] <jmichaelx> SIR_Taco: you would just be kicked back to #kubuntu
[04:01] <jmichaelx> :-D
[04:01] <SIR_Taco> jmichaelx: I'm glad you found the joke in that :)
[04:01] <jmichaelx> i did
[04:03]  * valorie hands out popcorn
[04:04] <valorie> popcorn is always on topic!
[04:04] <SIR_Taco> lol
[04:05] <KimLaroux> I <3 amarok too.
[04:05] <SIR_Taco> KimLaroux: yes, it's great... don't know why people get all grumpy about the changes in 2.X though
[04:06] <rww> People don't like change.
[04:06] <jmichaelx> SIR_Taco: it was kind of bad for a while, but has gradually become really good again
[04:06] <KimLaroux> Actually, I use Aqualung when I want to listen to a whole album. Why? Because Amarok doesn't have any semblance of gap-less playback. And that just sucks.
[04:07] <SIR_Taco> jmichaelx: true, but I toughed it out :)
[04:09] <SIR_Taco> KimLaroux: never used Aqualung.... I'll have to check that out
[04:10] <KimLaroux> It's a audiophile-level player, supports all sort of DSP plugins and stuff. It was built with quality of playback in mind, no flashy GUI. It doesn't even have laft.fm support.
[04:10] <SIR_Taco> looks like Gimp and Xmms got together and had a child lol
[04:12] <KimLaroux> bah, more like it popped out of dark matter or something. It's all standalone, doesn't depend on anything.
[04:12] <SIR_Taco> it does look interesting, I'll have to give it a try
[04:13] <SIR_Taco> I'll be back in a minute....
[04:14] <valorie> gapless is *almost* there
[04:14] <valorie> if you want to help, show up in the #phonon channel
[04:14] <KimLaroux> I have all the champagne and glitters waiting for it
[04:14] <valorie> tdfisher is working on it
[04:21] <SIR_Taco> this stupid game is going to be the death of me I think
[04:36] <SIR_Taco> poor erik
[04:37] <valorie> isn't it 'alas poor Yorick'
[04:37] <valorie> ?
[04:38] <SIR_Taco> but it's easier to suffer the slings and arrows of grave mis-communication :)
[04:55] <valorie> puns+Shakespeare ftw!
[04:56] <SIR_Taco> haha
[05:03] <SIR_Taco> valorie: don't worry... I wont bite my thumb at you
[05:07] <thefosgattecian> join #chat
[05:25] <SIR_Taco> ok... fun penguin (and Linux by association) related video... makes me laugh http://youtu.be/bnm85jraE8s
[05:49] <phoenixlzx> anyone using Thinkpad T420?
[05:50] <phoenixlzx> my touchpad doesn't word
[05:50] <phoenixlzx> work
[05:52] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: have you tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad  ?
[05:55] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: my touchpad hasn't word since I installed kubuntu....
[05:55] <phoenixlzx> work,sorry
[05:55] <SIR_Taco> what version?
[05:56] <phoenixlzx> kubuntu 11.04
[05:56] <phoenixlzx> touchpad:ultranan multi touchpad
[05:56] <valorie> I've never had a problem with any of mine
[05:56] <phoenixlzx> ultranav
[05:56] <SIR_Taco> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191924#c9 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191924#c16
[05:57] <SIR_Taco> seems to be a problem with the xorg.conf file... removing what they suggest in the above posts seems to fix the problem
[05:57] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: should i edit xorg.conf?
[05:58] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: I would, yes
[05:59] <SIR_Taco> seems to be a bug, and that's the work-around.... unless you want to wait for a fix :)
[06:03] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: is this ok? http://paste.kde.org/81013/
[06:03] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: i added line 6
[06:04] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: seems so... did you remove any other lines?
[06:04] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: no
[06:04] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: well, give it a shot
[06:04] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: ok,i will try. thanks a lot
[06:04] <SIR_Taco> trial and error are good for the learning experience :)
[06:09] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: X Server down
[06:09] <phoenixlzx> Fatal Error:No screens found
[06:10] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: it happens when i installed nvidia nvs4200m driver and run 'nvidia-xconfig'
[06:11] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: finally i turn off the nvidia optimus in the bios and then it works.
[06:11] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: hmmm... you could remove the xorg.conf entirely.... it should create a new one next time you boot. Might fix the problem, assuming the fix has been passed down
[06:12] <SIR_Taco> that's very odd
[06:12] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: i agree.So i should delet xorg.conf and reboot?
[06:13] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: it definitely wont hurt anything... with any luck it will re-detect everything, and set the right values
[06:14] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: then i will continue to try.thanks
[06:14] <SIR_Taco> np
[06:16] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: guess what?
[06:16] <SIR_Taco> what?
[06:17] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: it still doesn't work...
[06:17] <SIR_Taco> hmmm
[06:17] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: i think i have installed the right driver
[06:17] <SIR_Taco> you don't have the trackpad toggle off, do you? ;)
[06:18] <phoenixlzx> no,idon't
[06:18] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: you shouldn't have to install a driver, the synaptic driver is in the kernel
[06:19] <SIR_Taco> let me go get my laptop out of the car and see what's going on... give me a minute
[06:19] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: see this...
[06:19] <phoenixlzx> http://paste.kde.org/81019/
[06:34] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: well... seems my laptop doesn't have an xorg.conf file... and everything seems to work fine.... but according to the bug report you should remove "CorePointer" and "CoreKeyboard"  from your xorg.conf that you posted earlier (http://paste.kde.org/81013)
[06:36] <Jigsaw> hey room
[06:36] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: i deleted the xorg.conf file,so i don't have an xorg.conf file either
[06:39] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: sudo xorg -configure
[06:40] <phoenixlzx> Server is already active for display 0....
[06:42] <ilias> hi all. i am running efax v. 3.0.17 and i want to update to v. 3.2.1 to go over some bugs. is there any way to update using terminal?
[06:42] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: wont work if you're in KDE/X
[06:42] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: yes,i'm using KDE
[06:44] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: you'll have to use the command either by loggin in via "recovery console" or by logging out of KDE and shutting down X
[06:44] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: can i use nvidia-xconfig?
[06:44] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: yea, you can use that too
[06:45] <phoenixlzx> Unable to locate/open X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:45] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: should i edit it?
[06:46] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: yep, see if those "core" devices are in there as I mentioned above
[06:47] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: i find them..i should delet them,and add "touchpad"?
[06:48] <SIR_Taco> so you have: InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"? should be : InputDevice    "Mouse0"
[06:49] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: yeah,i have done that. I mean,if i should add "InputDevice  TouchPad"
[06:50] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: I would try it without first, if it doesn't work, then try adding it. (it really should figure all this out on it's own)
[06:52] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: boot times are good atleast :)
[06:53] <phoenixlzx> :)
[06:54] <SIR_Taco> still no mouse?
[06:54] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco:
[06:54] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: yas
[06:54] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: ...http://imagebin.org/157874
[06:56] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: also this http://imagebin.org/157876
[07:00] <LINKSWORD2> Hey all, who's up at this time of night?
[07:00] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: how about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9740761&postcount=22
[07:00] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: no one is up, we're all sleeping... you're just dreaming
[07:01] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[07:01] <LINKSWORD2> SIR_Taco: I can't get Google Chrome to install. I have tried several times, yet it isn't working.
[07:02] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: how are you trying to install it?
[07:02] <Graf_Westerholt> [08:00:13] <LINKSWORD2> Hey all, who's up at this time of night?  ⇐ not night, it is 0802 here. ;)
[07:03] <LINKSWORD2> It's 00:00 here. lol
[07:03] <SIR_Taco> it's 02:03 here
[07:03] <Graf_Westerholt> :)
[07:04] <Graf_Westerholt> I got up two hours ago.
[07:04] <phoenixlzx> hmmm,it's just 14:04 here. so i just working.
[07:05] <LINKSWORD2> By the way, anyone know how to change the clock to 24-hour mode?
[07:05] <LINKSWORD2> I live by 24 hour mode, and the whole AM/PM thing throws me off. :/
[07:06] <anonboo> LINKSWORD2, what do you do with an analog clock?
[07:06] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: still an overlooked bug
[07:06] <LINKSWORD2> wild, I beat people with analog clocks...
[07:06] <Graf_Westerholt> Analog clock can have 24 hours, too.
[07:07] <SIR_Taco> my watch only goes up to XXIV
[07:08] <wildgoose> my watch battery died so it's a madhatter piece
[07:08] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, Did you get your drive sorted?
[07:08] <Graf_Westerholt> I wonder why the box „Set date and time automaically“ is unchecked but my clock is exaclty set. I never set my clock.
[07:08] <KerrMD> Howdy all, any wine users in the house?
[07:09] <Graf_Westerholt> Maybe I set a crone job.
[07:09] <wildgoose> KerrMD, Probably, what's the next question?
[07:09] <KerrMD> Graf_Westerholt: Perhaps it was set at install?
[07:09] <SIR_Taco> wine users? or abusers? :P
[07:09] <Graf_Westerholt> My install is a few years ago. :)
[07:09] <Graf_Westerholt> !cronjob
[07:10] <LINKSWORD2> Nope, wildgoose, I just copied the files that I was using to make Kubuntu look like a Mac system onto a USB key, then did a re-install.
[07:10] <KerrMD> wildgoose: I am running the latest wine (I think) with wow 4.1 and on occasion graphical/sound/input issues whenI alt tab out of and back into the game
[07:10] <LINKSWORD2> And afterward, installed the files from the USB key.
[07:10] <KerrMD> full screen mode in opengl with the latest ati drivers
[07:10] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: it still won't work
[07:10] <KerrMD> ati radeon hd 5770 iirc
[07:11] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: while i added "InputDevice  TouchPad" into xorg.conf,should i add something else?
[07:13] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: i mean,there are mouse and keyboard in origin file,and there also have keyboard and mouse section
[07:13] <KerrMD> wine is 1.2.2, my mistake
[07:13] <SIR_Taco> hmm
[07:16] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: just for fun (to set my mind at ease, that the mouse is actually working).... open Konsole (Alt-F2 -> type: "konsole"), then type: sudo cat /dev/input/mouse0 and run your finger over the trackpad... you should end up with a bunch of odd symbols... hit CTRL-C to stop it
[07:18] <KerrMD> Would any of you know of a room here thet deals with basic computer support? I used to be in a M$ chat room PCHC back in the day and kind of miss helping others in computer or tech areas.
[07:18] <phoenixlzx> lol.................................................................
[07:18] <KerrMD> "?/
[07:19] <SIR_Taco> KerrMD: what would you like to know?
[07:19] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: http://imagebin.org/157878
[07:20] <KerrMD> SIR_Taco:  nothing, I used to be an op in PCHC and was hoping to get into the support game again. If at least, in chat form
[07:20] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: so i think whether i should add an "InputDevice"Section for TouchPad if i added it
[07:21] <ilias> hi all. i am trying to update a package but i recieved ths error http://paste.ubuntu.com/624923/. Any idea to go over this problem?
[07:21] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: but do you get output with the 'cat' command I mentioned for mouse0?
[07:22] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: a bunch of "????"
[07:22] <KerrMD> ilias: did you try --force?
[07:22] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: that's for my laser mouse,not trackpad
[07:22] <ilias> no. give me details for it plz.
[07:22] <KerrMD> or try purging. It looks  like it's trying to overwrite itsenf
[07:22] <KerrMD> itself
[07:23] <KerrMD> sudo apt-get purge efax-gtk
[07:23] <KerrMD> then sudo apt-get install efax-gtk
[07:23] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: ok... but it gave you ????? for the trackpad or the mouse?
[07:25] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: i move the mouse,and it poured many lines of "????",but i use tackpad,it has no reaction
[07:25] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: ok... what do you have for devices under /dev/input ?
[07:26] <SIR_Taco> ignore event devices....
[07:26] <phoenixlzx> by-id     mice    touchchip-1-1.3 by-path    mouse0
[07:26] <ilias> ok. i 'll try it and i 'll report the result. one more thing for now. to update efax i installed eugenesan repos. i rebooted and i know i recieved a warning from system notifications to get some security and bug updates. i gave yes. i see that eugenesan repos something install in my system. is that safe?
[07:28] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: by-id  mice  touchchip-1-1.3  by-path  mouse0
[07:28] <ilias> actually the update wasnt completed because of the same problem. efax cannot be updated.
[07:29] <KerrMD> eugenesan, I am not familiar with that or the program you are trying to install. I am  just going by the output you posted.
[07:29] <Bugsbane> apachelogger: Does adding the ppa:neon/ppa mean that gwenview, amarok, kate and *all* the apps in neon, will *all* be upgraded to nightly git versions, or do people have to *choose* to install neon versions of specific apps after adding the ppa?...
[07:33] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: you can try changing the "mouse0" in the xorg.conf to "touchchip-1-1.3"
[07:33] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: but my mouse?
[07:33] <ilias> @kerrMD: before i proceed with purge could ypu plz explain me how can i use --force command?
[07:34] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: and the "InputDevice"Section,how should i change it?
[07:35] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: when you plug it back in, it should figure it out.... give me a second and I'll mock one up
[07:40] <SIR_Taco> phoenixlzx: https://launchpad.net/~andrew-woodhead666 https://launchpad.net/~northridge  maybe?
[07:41] <phoenixlzx> SIR_Taco: sorry,but i have other things to deal with,i will try it next time.Thankyou for your help.
[07:42] <SIR_Taco> you're welcome... I can't replicate the problem, so it makes it hard to figure out the problem
[07:47] <KerrMD> Ack, did ilias log?discussion with the wife ... ilias, "man apt-get" without the quotes
[07:50] <ilias> well,well,well. i gave purge and then install but look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624942/
[07:52] <SIR_Taco> ilias: did you try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[07:53] <ilias> no, do i have to do it now?
[07:53] <SIR_Taco> ilias: I would try it, yes
[07:53] <ilias> i did it. now what?
[07:53] <ilias> again -install?
[07:53] <jussi> ilias: thats a packaging error. are you using some ppa?
[07:54] <ilias> yep
[07:54] <SIR_Taco> did it give an error? or any other feedback?
[07:54] <ilias> no nothing.
[07:54] <ilias> no answer after sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:55] <ilias> and when i gave install i got the same errors
[07:55] <jussi> ilias: is this a production system?
[07:55] <ilias> and now i dont have installed either my previous version!
[07:55] <KerrMD> Thanks for picking up my slack guys. Domestics....
[07:56] <ilias> what you mean a production system?
[07:56] <KerrMD> and please advise me if iI've lapsed in my advice
[07:56] <jussi> ilias: is the system used for important production, ie. if its broken, then how many people suffer? :D
[07:57] <SIR_Taco> ok... it's far too late/early... (3am)... need to go to bed...
[07:57] <KerrMD> night SIR_Taco sleep well
[07:57] <ilias> just me. but i have to make it from the begin
[07:58] <jussi> ilias: try this: sudo apt-get remove efax && sudo apt-get install efax-gtk
[07:58] <KerrMD> jussi: , no purge?
[07:58] <jussi> KerrMD: purge shouldnt be necessry
[07:58] <ilias> looks like it worked!
[07:59] <jussi> now check of it actually did work :D
[07:59] <ilias> no error message now. should be installed the new version
[07:59] <jussi> ie. does the program function
[07:59] <KerrMD> jussi:  I just ask because I would. never hurts if you're removing
[07:59] <ilias> wait
[08:00] <jussi> KerrMD: purge would remove config files, and its possible he doesnt want that
[08:00] <KerrMD> I had an instance recently where a remove then purge made the diff but that was with ati divers
[08:00] <KerrMD> drivers
[08:00] <jussi> KerrMD: in his situation, it shouldnt matter.
[08:00] <KerrMD> jussi: just the configs for that program yes?
[08:01] <ilias> yep it's the new version remembering my old settings (maybe efaxrc wasn't removed) and it find the modem as the previous did it.
[08:01] <KerrMD> jussi: You are saying that a config file could, in no way, be the issue?
[08:01] <jussi>        purge           purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too).
[08:01] <KerrMD> jussi: I know
[08:01] <jussi> KerrMD: for the pastebin problem he had, I would say so.
[08:03] <ilias> so, thanks, do i need anything else to do?
[08:05] <ilias> and finally solved as i have read googling the issue of sending *.ps files.
[08:05] <jussi> KerrMD: the apt-get issue was a conflict of files between 2 packages. we removed the first and installed the second
[08:06] <ilias> thank you very much guys for your help. i have to say once again how helpful you are always!
[08:08] <ilias> do i need anything else to do?
[08:16] <LINKSWORD2> Well, that didn't go according to plan...
[08:17] <LINKSWORD2> For reasons unknown, I'm unable to install anything new to my system.
[08:48] <LINKSWORD2> wildgoose: I'm not able to install Google Chrome, or Pidgin IM.
[08:49] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry for not responding earlier. I'm working on 3 computers at once.
[08:55] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, What error are you running into
[09:09] <LINKSWORD2> No error at all, it just doesn't install.
[09:10] <LINKSWORD2> When I download Chrome to install it, it runs GDebi Package Installer, and appears to install, but it doesn't complete.
[09:10] <LINKSWORD2> After it appears to install, I have checked the programs lists, and Google Chrome is not listed.
[09:12] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, What happens if you sudo apt-get install?
[09:13] <LINKSWORD2> I would need the appropriate command line for that.
[09:13] <Graf_Westerholt> !chrome
[09:14] <LINKSWORD2> Konsole: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:14] <LINKSWORD2>  google-chrome-stable : Depends: libcurl3 but it is not going to be installed
[09:14] <LINKSWORD2> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[09:17] <LINKSWORD2> GAH!!!! I've tried the solutions it recommends, and it's giving me more errors
[09:17] <LINKSWORD2> Same stuff.
[09:18] <Graf_Westerholt> LINKSWORD2, please pastebin the output.
[09:19] <LINKSWORD2> I've already put the output up on here.
[09:20] <wildgoose> !history
[09:20] <wildgoose> !nolove
[09:21] <LINKSWORD2> pastebin.Kubuntu.com
[09:21] <LINKSWORD2> .... Fail.
[09:21] <Graf_Westerholt> LINKSWORD2, the output of  'apt-get -f install'?
[09:22] <LINKSWORD2> Time for a new one...
[09:22] <LINKSWORD2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/624989/
[09:23] <Graf_Westerholt> You should not rune 'apt-get -f install google-chrome-stable' You should run 'apt-get -f install' with no packages.
[09:24] <Graf_Westerholt> LINKSWORD2 google-chrome-stable is installed.
[09:25] <LINKSWORD2> That's not the case. It says it is installed, but it is NOT in the programs directories.
[09:26] <Graf_Westerholt> Run 'google-crome' or 'crome' from the commandline.
[09:26] <Graf_Westerholt> *chrome of course.
[09:26] <LINKSWORD2> What command, specifically?
[09:26] <Graf_Westerholt> Sorry LINKSWORD2?
[09:26] <LINKSWORD2> Is it just "run google-chrome" or something?
[09:27] <Graf_Westerholt> ok, you do not know how to use the command line?
[09:27] <Graf_Westerholt> Just type 'chrome' and hit enter.
[09:28] <Graf_Westerholt> Without the '
[09:28] <LINKSWORD2> I can get it to install stuff like Gimp and OpenOffice with commands. But I'm not the most Linux savvy...
[09:29] <LINKSWORD2> OK, 'google-chrome' worked.
[09:29] <Graf_Westerholt> fine.
[09:30] <LINKSWORD2> It's not in the applications menu, however.
[09:31] <Graf_Westerholt> LINKSWORD2, yes, maybe it is a bug. But I am sure it is in the menu thex next time you start KDE.
[09:31] <Graf_Westerholt> Not being in the menu means not that it is not installed.
[09:32] <LINKSWORD2> I've also tried restarting the system a couple times.
[09:32] <Graf_Westerholt> Try ALT+F2 and type in google-chrome and hit enter.
[09:32] <LINKSWORD2> I'll try again, and we'll see... But I'm expecting the same results.
[09:33] <Graf_Westerholt> You do not have to reboot the system.
[09:33] <Graf_Westerholt> relog in KDE would work.
[09:33] <LINKSWORD2> Well, it's also 3 AM here. I'm logging off for the night.
[09:33] <LINKSWORD2> And if the problem persists, I'll attack it from another angle later.
[09:34] <LINKSWORD2> Sayonara, Graf-san.
[10:21] <Graf_Westerholt> How can I set the display colour to grey?
[10:36] <fy_> ping
[11:37] <pwn4g3> hello everyone, i experience odd behaviour when starting firefox and thundbird. both windows are _not_ maximized. how to turn on maximized on start?
[11:38] <kubu2> pwn4g3: maximize and then close. next start will be maximized
[11:39] <pwn4g3> kubu2: tried that, doesn't work :(
[11:39] <kubu2> pwn4g3: works for me
[11:39] <pwn4g3> very odd
[11:40] <Graf_Westerholt> pwn4g3 try the setting for the windows at fullscreen.
[11:40] <Graf_Westerholt> pwn4g3 right mouse at the title of the window, configure window behaviour.
[11:41] <Graf_Westerholt> or better advanced.
[11:41] <Graf_Westerholt> special applikation settings.
[11:41] <pwn4g3> Graf_Westerholt: got that open, where is the setting?
[11:42] <pwn4g3> placement?
[11:43] <Graf_Westerholt> At „geomerty“ check fullscreen.
[11:44] <Graf_Westerholt> Got it, pwn4g3?
[11:45] <Graf_Westerholt> or try 'maximised…' instead of 'fullscreen'.
[11:45] <pwn4g3> yes Graf_Westerholt, thanks a bunch :D
[11:45] <Graf_Westerholt> np
[11:47] <pwn4g3> ah, interesting, found the cause
[11:48] <pwn4g3> 1.) start firefox 2.) drag unmaximized window to upper left corner 3. use the mouse in the lower right corner to resize as much as possible (will snap to edge) 4.) restart
[11:48] <pwn4g3> no need for special settings
[11:50] <kubu2> you are really odd..
[11:50] <kubu2> what you did can be done just as well by clicking max button
[11:51] <pwn4g3> no kubu2
[11:51] <pwn4g3> when clicking maximize the window manager will _not_ remember it
[11:51] <pwn4g3> well, but you are right i am an odd guy nevertheless
[11:51] <Graf_Westerholt> pwn4g3, works with only maximize it, close, open, window is maximized.
[11:52] <pwn4g3> doesn't for me for whatever reason
[11:52] <Graf_Westerholt> that is ok. :) That' bescause I gave you the other way. ;)
[11:54] <kubu2> pwn4g3: you can even drag window to the top edge and it will maximize for you
[11:55] <pwn4g3> yea i know kubu2, i love that feature
[11:55] <pwn4g3> i like placing them half screen next to each other for debugging :)
[12:10] <szal> pwn4g3: I doubt that, I always open FF maximized, just by having clicked its Maximize button on 1st use
[12:11] <pwn4g3> oh great, now everyone thinks "there is the idiot that can't maximize a window"
[12:13]  * szal knows that there can be oddities in window behaviour
[12:13] <szal> try e.g. LibreOffice..  window sizes of existing documents will be remembered, but try to open a new document maximized, you'll likely fail
[12:15] <pwn4g3> szal: mine is maximized O.o
[12:15] <desdenova_> maybe try to reproduce with a new user account? Maybe it has something to do with false permissions in a temp settings folder or document
[12:16] <szal> pwn4g3: ooh nice, mine too..
[12:19] <Aterus> Has anyone ran in to an issue when you copy a large file to USB data carrier, the system become very slow and laggy. Even typing lags.
[12:20] <szal> define 'large'
[12:20] <Aterus> 7.6GB
[12:20] <pwn4g3> no Aterus, you mean using dolphin?
[12:20] <szal> define 'USB data carrier'
[12:20] <Aterus> USB key
[12:21] <szal> filesystem?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:21] <Aterus> And the copying speed is extremely unstable ranging from 10 Mbps to 500kbps or so
[12:21] <Aterus> Ext4 on PC and NTFS on the key
[12:21] <Aterus> i copied large file in ubuntu before and never had this issue
[12:22] <szal> no idea about NTFS-formatted keys
[12:23] <Aterus> I think i might take that back. My laptop is playing up. I used a different port and it works flawlesly.
[12:37] <amichair> !info guarddog natty
[12:37] <amichair> !info guarddog
[12:37] <amichair> !find guarddog
[12:38] <amichair> um, no
[12:50] <szal> amichair: looks like guarddog is dead, last news on their homepage is from March 2007
[12:51] <ilias> hi all. does any one know if i have to fix something in kmix to may hear my modem speaker? i have already given M2L2 commands to the modem but i cannot hear it dial or ring.
[12:56] <pwn4g3> is there a replacement project for guarddog?
[12:59] <amichair> szal: just looking for the package, guarddog does exactly what it's supposed to so it doesn't really require much updating
[13:00] <amichair> pwn4g3: from what I gather, it's all ufw and gufw now. Too bad.
[13:01] <szal> amichair: guarddog requires KDE3, I doubt you'll find that anywhere for Natty ;)
[13:01] <amichair> unfortunately
[13:01] <szal> and the description on the homepage says "firewall for KDE 2" ;)
[13:01] <pwn4g3> hm. i'll give it a shot. what harm can it possibly do? (famous last words)
[13:01] <amichair> hehe
[13:03] <pwn4g3> that is some tidy interface -.-
[13:46] <smose> hi!
[13:48] <smose> I'm using 10.04 and after latest update X won't start. Is there something i could do?
[13:58] <Peace-> smose: mm
[13:58] <Peace-> smose: selecting another kernel
[13:58] <Peace-> ?
[13:58] <PiotrN> smose: have you used proprietaty graphisc drivers ?
[13:59] <PiotrN> proprietaty*
[13:59] <PiotrN> rry*
[13:59] <PiotrN> r
[13:59] <PiotrN> proprietary*
[14:15] <Who> is there something similiar like caffeine for kubuntu
[14:15] <mfraz74> what is caffeine? do you mean kaffeine?
[14:16] <Who> nah caffeine
[14:17] <Who> A status bar application able to temporarily prevent the activation of both the screensaver and the "sleep" powersaving mode.
[14:17] <mfraz74> https://launchpad.net/caffeine
[14:18] <Who> yep
[14:31] <smoze> Is there a good guide for changing video driver?
[14:32] <Graf_Westerholt> Who, you can either set a side of the screen that disable the screensaver when you move the mouse to this side or activate other screen edge actions. This will also prevent the srceensaver from became active.
[14:33] <TJB> hi
[14:34] <TJB> is KDE *really* better than GNOME?
[14:34] <Peace-> TJB: kde is different
[14:34] <Peace-> kde can be what you want
[14:34] <Peace-> so.. it has more option
[14:34] <TJB> i keep hearing claims that KDE is the best
[14:34] <TJB> where is the evidence
[14:35] <Peace-> i would say it's better for who likes choice
[14:35] <Peace-> TJB: for example
[14:35] <Peace-> i can do gnome2 panel on kde in one click
[14:35] <Graf_Westerholt> TJB, just try it.
[14:35] <TJB> i wish gnome and kde would merge
[14:35] <TJB> i hate how apps are made for either gnome or kde
[14:35] <Peace-> TJB: btw kwin seems to be better on fps
[14:35] <TJB> just settle your differences
[14:36] <TJB> sometimes too much choice is a bad things
[14:36] <TJB> thing
[14:36] <Peace-> TJB: ok so if you think that keep gnome
[14:36] <Peace-> i will keep kde :)
[14:37] <TJB> how can i get kde and gnome t omerge
[14:37] <TJB> to merge
[14:37] <Peace-> TJB: kwin has more fps ==> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/how-much-does-unity-gnome-shell-affect-performance/
[14:38] <TJB> okay
[14:38] <TJB> i am surprised actually
[14:38] <Peace-> TJB: have you an old pc?
[14:39] <TJB> no
[14:39] <Peace-> TJB: so...
[14:39] <TJB> i thought GNOME was more lightweight
[14:41] <Peace-> TJB: well kde seems more heavy because it is complete
[14:41] <Peace-> it has semantic desktop
[14:41] <Peace-> so basically you can search words into the file too...
[14:42] <Peace-> that burns a lots of resources
[14:42] <Peace-> but if you disable that ...
[15:31] <alex_> hi
[15:31] <Graf_Westerholt> Hi, alex_.
[15:33] <alex_> What is your name?
[15:33] <Graf_Westerholt> My name is Graf_Westerholt.
[15:33] <alex_> clear
[15:34] <alex_> sorry to ask. whom we now speak.
[15:35] <Graf_Westerholt> Just call me Graf_Westerholt.
[15:36] <alex_> where you from?
[15:36] <alex_> excuses are very far
[15:38] <Graf_Westerholt> alex_, this is an ubuntu-help-channel. Please join #kubuntu-offtopic for anything else.
[15:38] <Graf_Westerholt> alex_, this is an kubuntu-help-channel. Please join #kubuntu-offtopic for anything else.
[15:39] <alex_> ok
[15:43] <alex_> hi
[15:52] <TJB> hi
[15:59] <friese> hi
[16:00] <friese> i want to install https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa on debian wheezy, that repo does include kde 4.6.4 and the new kontact with akonadi or?
[16:01] <TJB> or you could use ubuntu
[16:01] <friese> meh
[16:02] <ratz_> hi folks
[16:03] <tsimpson> friese: it's specifically made for Kubuntu, you could try it on debian, but I'll most likely explode
[16:03] <ratz_> i am looking for software in linux which can backup my windows file server etc. Can any one please suggest me what I should do?
[16:03] <friese> ok
[16:04] <friese> i know that there is a good posibility, kde may not boot after sth.like this, but does that repo include the "new" kontact 2?
[16:06] <tsimpson> I don't think it does
[16:07] <ratz_> anyone who can suggest me any backup server like symantec backup?
[16:08] <yofel> friese: no, it doesn't
[16:09] <yofel> The packaging for kdepim2 isn't done yet
[16:09] <yofel> and it'll be in kubuntu-ppa/backports when it's out
[16:13] <friese> ok, thx
[16:13] <ratz_> thanks. i will give it a check
[16:19] <olskolirc> how do i customize my boot screen on natty please?
[16:22] <lindux> I'm running the Kubuntu 11.04 live CD and I can't get wifi working. (I also can't get it working on ubuntu 11.04) I've got an HP dm4-1160us notebook. Any suggestions? Is this expected on a live CD?
[16:28] <lindux> Anyone around?
[16:28] <TJB> perhaps try ubuntu instead
[16:28] <lindux> k
[16:28] <TJB> ubuntu is better anyway
[16:29] <lindux> TJB - Ha. I'm having the same problem in Ubuntu 11.04 so I might as well try that channel too. Strange because my wifi  is Intel not even broadcom.
[16:31] <TJB> in that case, try Windows
[16:31] <TJB> GNU/Linux is a headache
[16:34] <Peace-> TJB: -.-
[16:34] <Peace-> why you have said windows when intels works
[16:34] <TJB> intels?
[16:34] <Peace-> you have understood
[16:34] <Peace-> don't you?
[16:40] <TJB> windows is easier than gnu/linux
[16:40] <TJB> windows just works
[16:40] <TJB> i'm just being honest
[16:43] <davemac> hi guys anyone know how to install libreoffice database application thru apt-get ?
[16:44] <olskolirc> what do you mean applications davemac ?
[16:45] <davemac> well i installed the libreoffice package with spreadsheet etc but the db app is greyed out, i assume its not installed
[16:46] <yofel> davemac: should be libreoffice-base I think
[16:46] <davemac> ah ok i'll give that a shot cheers chaps
[16:48] <olskolirc> for sql davemac ?
[16:50] <Peace-> TJB: this is kubuntu channel
[16:50] <Peace-> TJB: so... you have deleted the hope of a user
[16:50] <Peace-> to get linux working in few steps
[16:50] <Peace-> this is a bad behavior
[16:50] <Peace-> if you don't know how to help
[16:50] <Peace-> don't
[16:50] <Peace-> do it
[16:51] <TJB> i'm just saying; windows is easier, by far
[16:51] <olskolirc> lol
[16:51] <Dragnslcr> I love the smell of troll in the morning
[16:52] <Graf_Westerholt> [17:51:24] <TJB> i'm just saying; windows is easier, by far  ⇐ that is the reason why I use Linux. ;)
[16:52] <PiotrN> here it's early evening and trolls dont smell nicely....
[16:53] <davemac> thanks giys that was the right one to install
[16:54] <ilias> is there any way when an application crash not to view the report of this crash?
[16:54] <Peace-> i don't understand people like you TJB have you a life ?
[16:54] <chachan> I don't think windows is easier than kubuntu
[16:55] <Peace-> ilias: i guess yes
[16:55] <ilias> how? can i fix it?
[16:55] <Peace-> ilias: look on help menu
[16:55] <Peace-> ilias: there is report bug
[16:55] <chachan> in fact, configuring the networking is "harder"
[16:55] <ilias> the help menu of the application?
[16:55] <Peace-> ilias: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/12/plasma-desktopNB1753.jpg
[16:56] <yofel> ilias: what do you mean with 'not to view' - do you get  a crash report and don't want that?
[16:56] <ilias> i found this. how can i disable it
[16:57] <BluesKaj> TJB, do you have a question about kubuntu or are you just trolling ?
[16:57] <ilias> yep. i dont want to see the crash screen
[16:57] <Peace-> mm
[16:57] <Peace-> nice question ilias
[16:57] <ilias> i know it is interesting. the point is if it customisable!
[16:58] <yofel> ah, drkonqi... good question...
[17:00] <ilias> do you know why i want to customise this?
[17:01] <yofel> does something crash that frequently?
[17:02] <ilias> yep. kmail. when the shutdown and it is running in system tray
[17:02] <ilias> yep. kmail. when the system shutdowns and it is running in system tray
[17:03] <ilias> and i recieve a crash report about akonandi server
[17:06] <ilias> well, any idea?
[17:06] <yofel> seriously no idea if that's possible, #kde might know. A brute force way to do it would probably be
[17:06] <yofel> sudo chmod -x /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi
[17:06] <yofel> but an update would revert that
[17:07] <ilias> an update of what?
[17:08] <kevin_b> Hello guys, i'm affected by this x-server bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/505494
[17:08] <ilias> i gave sudo chmod -x /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi and the system doesnt rely anything
[17:08] <ilias> is it normal?
[17:08] <vrubium> Hi guys, i'm reading some interesting articles about owncloud, but i dont quite understand how can i use it, any tip?
[17:09] <yofel> yes, if it doesn't complain it worked
[17:09] <yofel> ilias: the file i in kdebase-runtime, so the next KDE update would revert the change
[17:09] <kevin_b> so I thought about building a new x-server, is there a max version for compatibility with KDE 4.6.last ?
[17:09] <yofel> ilias: *is in
[17:13] <yofel> kevin_b: doesn't it say the fix is in 1.8 or later?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> kevin_b, have you installed the recommended video drivers..I have to ask . if so generate a new xorg.conf file, just substitute gdm with kdm on kubuntu:http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/ubuntu-9-10/xorg-conf-file-create-on-ubuntu-9-10/
[17:15] <kevin_b> BluesKaj : i'm using fglrx from official repository
[17:16] <kevin_b> I dont see any advise aboutvideo drivers. Which one would you recommend?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> fglrx from official repository is probly the right one, did you install it with jockey?
[17:17] <kevin_b> jockey?
[17:17] <kevin_b> just run apt-get install fglrx
[17:18] <DarthFrog> !info jockey-kde
[17:18] <BluesKaj> kevin_b, kmenu>apps>settings>additonal drivers
[17:18] <kevin_b> yofel : seems like I have x-server 1.1
[17:18] <ilias> in kde somebody advise me to use kdebugdialog. any suggestion?
[17:18] <yofel> kevin_b: which release are you on?
[17:19] <kevin_b> yofel : 2011-04-15
[17:19] <yofel> ilias: that can disable debugging information that's logged in ~/.xsession-errors but I don't see an option to disable drkonqi there
[17:20] <BluesKaj> kevin_b, lsb_release -a
[17:20] <kevin_b> 11.04
[17:20] <kevin_b> btw : I have a cute "No LSB modules are available."
[17:20] <ilias> ok. thanks. so its useless. is there way to customise drkonqi? i googled but i didnt find anything
[17:21] <BluesKaj> kevin_b, Let me repeat . kmenu>apps>settings>additonal drivers
[17:21] <kevin_b> BluesKaj : went where you pointed, it seems like everything 's fine
[17:22] <kevin_b> Proprietary driver fglrx tested by ubuntu devs, this driver is enabled and used
[17:23] <BluesKaj> kevin_b, ok , just making sure
[17:24] <kevin_b> So I was thinking about to try to build a newer x.org x-server,
[17:26] <kevin_b> I dunno what i'm doing actually, and what trouble I'm running into :p
[17:28] <BluesKaj> kevin_b, what makes you think it's an Xserver problem, have you tried to regenerate or edit ?
[17:29] <kevin_b> I dunno at all, except that it the bug description matches my system behaviour
[17:29] <kevin_b> and that it's said it x-server related
[17:30] <kevin_b> btw it is just happenning right now, my irc client got the focus for ever now
[17:30] <kevin_b> so fun
[17:30] <kevin_b> actually only the textbox will have the focus
[17:31] <kevin_b> only Alt-Tab will defocus and focus another window
[17:31] <mfraz74> Just noticed something odd with the display of smilies in Kubuntu 11.04. Can someone confirm?
[17:31] <kevin_b> none of my Clicks  are taken in account anymore
[17:31] <kevin_b> the system is totally unusable
[17:32] <mfraz74> If I hover over a text smily that has been replaced by a picture where I would normally see the original text if I hover over it, I now just get a blur
[17:32] <mfraz74> :(
[17:33] <scottladd> Howdy. Havign a few problems with Kubuntu 11.04 and dual monitors on Intel Integrated (Arrondal, i5) graphics.
[17:34] <scottladd> When I reboot KDE, it seems to randomize the configuration
[17:34] <scottladd> And when I have both monitors working, the secondary monitor (on HDMI) tens to be disabled at apparently random times.
[17:34] <scottladd> Any ideas?
[17:35] <scottladd> I'm fully current on patches, btw
[17:35] <kevin_b> how can downgrade to a older X.org xserver?
[17:36] <utusan> kevin_b, try using radeon instead and see if it' ok
[17:36] <kevin_b> utusan : you mean radeon drivers?
[17:36] <utusan> yes
[17:37] <kevin_b> tried it, removed it, :)
[17:38] <kevin_b> or are you talking about the x-server-xorg-video-radon package?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> which ati card , kevin_b ?
[17:38] <scottladd> Sigh. Why do I never have problems that anyoen else has answers to? Am I just skilled, or damned? :)
[17:38] <mfraz74> This is what I mean http://twitpic.com/5an2dc
[17:39] <kevin_b> HD 4650 on laptop
[17:40] <smoze> hey! anyone got answer for this? after latest updates x server freezez the whole machine. i have radeon hd.
[17:41] <smoze> sorry for typos
[17:41] <kevin_b> smoze : welcome to the naughty x server bug
[17:41] <kevin_b> smoze : we 're in the same boat
[17:42] <smoze> kevin_b: so there's no fix for it yet?
[17:43] <kevin_b> maybe it s fglrx related, but anyway the first the bug N°505494 showed off, was after last week update
[17:43] <mfraz74> smoze: I take it this is with 11.04?
[17:43] <smoze> mfraz74: LTS actually
[17:43] <Quintasan> scottladd: Well, we can't really do anything about it, KDE might be acting up
[17:43] <kevin_b> smoze have a look at ubuntu bug 505494 and see if it matches
[17:43] <mfraz74> smoze: ah, well 11.04 doesn't seem to be any better
[17:44] <Quintasan> scottladd: I'd recommend that you mv your current ~/.kde somewhere safe and try with fresh settings
[17:44] <scottladd> I'll give it a shot. BRB...
[17:45] <Quintasan> scottladd: please backup your .kde first
[17:45] <Quintasan> I just hope he did back it up
[17:46] <BluesKaj> kevin_b, according to the Ubuntu the driver you should be using is the driver on this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:47] <kevin_b> haha : i'm affected by the mighty currently, I can't copy paste
[17:47] <kevin_b> thanks anyway
[17:47] <BluesKaj> just click the link
[17:48] <kevin_b> the mouse click doesnt have any effect
[17:48] <kevin_b> that s the bug
[17:48] <kevin_b> but it s not frozen
[17:48] <kevin_b> just copying it s ok
[17:48] <kevin_b> I mean by earth and alt tab lol
[17:49] <kevin_b> s/earth/eart
[17:49] <kevin_b> ok I'm going to follow this strictly, and get started from there
[17:57] <Roinux> hello somebody know how can i install java
[17:58] <Graf_Westerholt> !java
[17:58] <Roinux> i'm using kubuntu
[17:59] <Roinux> it's doesn't matter?
[17:59] <Graf_Westerholt> It is the same for kubuntu/ubuntu. Does not matter, Roinux.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras , Roinux
[17:59] <Roinux> thanks
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:02] <france1159> Hello everyone
[18:02] <amichair> does someone feel like trying to recreate a bug? (warning: your desktop will freeze, so make sure your open apps are in a disposable state)
[18:02] <france1159> I changed the layout keybord by the sys tem configuration but that doesn't work.
[18:03] <france1159> i restart my session but nothing.
[18:03] <france1159> how can i do this ?
[18:03] <Graf_Westerholt> france1159, how did you changed it? Maybe you made a mistake.
[18:04] <amichair> the bug goes like so: 1. enable desktop effects 2. open a konsole window 3. try resizing the console window to the left 4. everything hangs!
[18:04] <Graf_Westerholt> amichair, afaik this bug is fixed.
[18:05] <amichair> Graf_Westerholt: on an up-to-date Natty it ain't...
[18:05] <france1159> Graf_Westerholt: Simply by change the layout keyboard in the panel associated to entry device.
[18:05] <Graf_Westerholt> I have no problem with konsole windows resizing with desktop effects.
[18:07] <BluesKaj> Roinux, kubuntu-restricted -extras installs the proper java , flash and multimedia codecs etc for your kubuntu install, installing a seprate java will just make your system clunky
[18:08] <mfraz74> any idea what's happened to kopete-gcall in 11.04?
[18:08] <sudokill> how to i enable the kde snow effect automatically on login / startup? atm i have to press meta ctrl + f12
[18:12] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[18:20] <Graf_Westerholt> I was wrong. :)
[18:24] <amichair> I just found bug #760632, it looks like the nvidia drivers are fixed but haven't hit the repos yet. Hope they do soon.
[18:26] <mick-mick> hi friends
[18:27] <Graf_Westerholt> france1159 you have only one layout for your keyboard now?
[18:27] <mick-mick> I lost the trash icon from Dolphin
[18:36] <D-coy> :þ
[18:38] <sudokill> does anyone use the snow effect in kde?
[18:48] <Graf_Westerholt> Are the bots crazy?
[18:48] <rww> Graf_Westerholt: nope, freenode is having issues today and they're responding accordingly
[18:48] <Graf_Westerholt> :)
[19:11] <ryrych> I know I repeat myself :D but I would like to ask those who have n900 and tried out new kontact touch on it?
[19:12] <ilias> hi all. could you please suggest me a desktop theme witch has blue/dark blue color in task bar, except deep blue which i had already tried.
[19:13] <ilias> deep=big
[19:32]  * SJK_24601_is_not is away: Gone away for now
[19:50] <mick-mick> hola amigos! qué tal?
[19:51] <mick-mick> hi
[19:51] <BluesKaj> mick-mick, yeah english here :)
[19:51] <mick-mick> oh
[19:51] <mick-mick> pardon
[19:51] <mick-mick> I am newer on kubuntu
[19:52] <BluesKaj> !pt
[19:53] <mick-mick> thks
[19:53] <mick-mick> I am looking for a programm like paltalk in Kubuntu
[19:53] <mick-mick> I thought Quassel was that
[19:55] <BluesKaj> !quassel
[19:56] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, mick-mick is already using quassel.
[19:56] <BluesKaj> yeah but the factois will tell him what it is
[19:56] <BluesKaj> factoid
[19:56] <mick-mick> what is quassel exactly?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> an irc client
[19:57] <mick-mick> ah
[19:57] <mick-mick> to learn more about kubuntu?
[19:57] <Graf_Westerholt> ubottu knows nothing about quassel? Stupid bot.
[19:58] <BluesKaj> !info quassel
[19:58] <mick-mick> I am doing nothing now. Just spending time
[19:59] <mick-mick> :)
[20:11] <alivePerson1234> what was the name of the other kde irc client that was popular in kde 3.5 ?
[20:11] <rww> konversation?
[20:12] <alivePerson1234> no i was thinking of kVirc i believe
[20:13] <alivePerson1234> huh i guess theres a lot of them
[20:13] <Belserusk> Hi guys. What would go in place of FILE in this?   gedit --sm-client-state-file=FILE
[20:15] <alivePerson1234> you should be able to save the session somewhere, it is a gtk app and not kde btw
[20:16] <alivePerson1234> i think you need the gedit-plugins package and you can then save the session
[21:16] <puma> hi
[21:16] <puma> am new here
[21:17] <Bart123> hi
[21:19] <Bart123> hi?
[21:32] <Sentynel> hi guys, any news on kde 4.7 beta 2 packages?
[21:39] <soee> Sentynel, kde b2 isnt released yet
[21:39] <Sentynel> soee: it been delayed then? release schedule says 8th
[21:40] <soee> Sentynel, yes but this week was for kde 4.6.4
[21:41] <Sentynel> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule I'm looking at this
[21:42] <soee> Sentynel, yes i know :) but there were some conferences and the schedule is a bit outdated when it comes to beta2
[21:42] <Sentynel> soee: okay, cheers
[22:40] <EdD_> y
[22:47] <lcb> hello
[23:49] <m_tadeu> hi there...does anyone know how 2 finger-scrolling works in a single touchpad