[01:08] <carpediem666fr> hi ChanServ, it's been a while since i didn t see u and ur brothers nickserv end the thiord dat i don t remeber the name :-)
[01:09] <carpediem666fr> hi everyone here !
[01:10] <stlsaint> carpediem666fr: hello
[01:10] <carpediem666fr> hi, i search an idea to put a program (Skype) in the start of Lubuntu
[01:11] <carpediem666fr> do any1 know it ?
[01:14] <stlsaint> carpediem666fr: have ubuntu installed by default?
[01:14] <stlsaint> there are some licensing issues with that
[01:15] <carpediem666fr> lubuntu yes
[01:15] <carpediem666fr> ty stlsaint
[01:17] <volkswagner> Greetings Lubu's... LOL
[01:18] <stlsaint> volkswagner: hello
[01:19] <volkswagner> I'm back for try number two with an update to my problem.
[01:20] <volkswagner> Original problem: how can I show in menu "shutdown" and "Reboot" options running LXDE on Ubuntu 11.04?  Usually in Debian I add user to powerdev group, but this group does not even exist for 11.04
[01:21] <volkswagner> Update:  I have been able to get root user to get the shutdown, reboot options by installing policykit-1-gnome, but I'm still at a loss on how to get a normal user with sudo priv's to get the shutdown options
[01:27] <carpediem666fr> bye every1 ! have a good night !
[01:28] <stlsaint> so when you hit the logout button there is no option to shutdown?
[01:35] <volkswagner> Yes there is no option for shutdown or reboot, just logout or cancel.
[01:36] <volkswagner> Here is the full list of recommended but not installed when installing LXDE --without-recommends http://pastebin.com/jKshvhN8
[06:32] <head_victim> Here's a question for you all, does enabling -proposed in 11.10 alpha make a different at all?
[06:47] <bioterror> do update & upgrade, enable it, do update & upgrade again ;)
[06:49] <elros> head_victim: I guess not
[06:50] <head_victim> bioterror: trying now
[06:50] <elros> my gut feeling is that only "oneiric" is used on the dev stage, updates/proposed/backports are enabled after release
[06:51] <head_victim> elros: that's what I thought, but you never know
[06:51] <elros> well, soon we will
[06:52] <head_victim> Well there are none to update at this stage after enabling proposed
[06:52] <bioterror> :)
[06:52] <elros> but that's not proof
[06:52] <bioterror> and it's still alpha1
[06:53] <elros> so, It's consistent with earlier hypothesis and the new one
[06:54] <elros> it's possible that 1) "oneiric-proposed" is empty 2) "oneiric-proposed" has older packages than "oneiric"
[06:55] <head_victim> Yeah I asked in ubuntu+1 we'll see if I get an aswer
[06:55] <head_victim> answer*
[06:56] <head_victim> Nice to see my little pc running at it's potential for a change. Amazing how hard it is running 3 VMs and HDtv.
[06:56] <elros> packages.ubuntu.com has only "oneiric"
[06:59] <jmarsden> Um... wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-proposed/Contents-i386.gz  lists no files yet.  Isn't this the easier way to test? :)
[07:00] <head_victim> jmarsden: well if you know what you're doing sure, that's a great test :D I never pretend to know what I'm doing ;)
[07:00] <jmarsden> I try hard not to *pretend* I know what I'm doing, that can be dangerous :)
[07:01] <elros> :)
[07:01] <head_victim> Oh I am sure I know nothing, that's why I ask so many questions
[13:25] <beef-supreme> anyone on?
[13:26] <beef-supreme> i'm getting
[13:26] <beef-supreme> Error: no default or UI configuration directive found when trying to boot
[13:30] <phillw> beef-supreme: are you booting from USB?
[13:30] <beef-supreme> no, cd
[13:31] <beef-supreme> i burned 3 cds and same error over and over
[13:31] <beef-supreme> i am aware of the syslinux usb fix
[13:31] <phillw> beef-supreme: have you checked the md5 on the file you downloaded?
[13:31] <beef-supreme> but this is cd
[13:31] <beef-supreme> md5 is good
[13:31] <phillw> is cd also good?
[13:31] <beef-supreme> cd good?
[13:32] <elros> you can check cd integrity on the boot menu
[13:32] <beef-supreme> when i get the error?
[13:32] <beef-supreme> and the boot: prompt?
[13:33] <phillw> beef-supreme: when the cd 1st loads, amongst other options is one to test the cd. (Assuming you are using 11.04)
[13:34] <beef-supreme> but it doeasnt load,
[13:34] <beef-supreme> i just get that error
[13:34] <beef-supreme> worked fine on my pc, but not on someone else's
[13:37] <phillw> beef-supreme: I'd suggest, in that case, cleaning the lens on the cd drive of the computer that is sulking. Iso's are far more demanding than normal data cd's
[13:37] <beef-supreme> two pcs, same output
[13:38] <phillw> what speed are you burning the cd at?
[13:38] <beef-supreme> first at 24, then 8x
[13:38] <phillw> is 8X the slowest you can burn?
[13:38] <beef-supreme> yep
[13:39] <phillw> so, the initial screen itself does not load on booting?
[13:39] <beef-supreme> yes
[13:42] <phillw> that points to a bad cd :/
[13:43] <beef-supreme> well yea but 3 different cds?
[13:43] <phillw> yeah, if the cd writer has a dirty write led it will keep writing bad ones.
[13:43] <phillw> cd units have two leds - read and write, they both must be clean :)
[13:44] <phillw> what programme are you using to create the cd?
[13:44] <beef-supreme> brasero at first then xfburn
[13:48] <beef-supreme> im using lubuntu
[13:48] <beef-supreme> minus the lubuntu part
[13:53] <phillw> the only mentions I can find of it occurring with a cd is that of failed burn of the cd.
[13:53] <beef-supreme> too bad :(
[13:54] <phillw> under tools in brasero, there is an option to check cd integrity - I can only suggest you try that.
[13:57] <beef-supreme> will that take half an hour like the md5sum?
[13:58] <phillw> beef-supreme: yup, it takes a while - but that is better than spending hours with a badly burnt cd :\
[13:59] <beef-supreme> are you a lubuntu developer or just user?
[13:59] <phillw> you will need to test the cd you burnt using brasero, as it adds an md5 to the cd for it's own use, else if you wish to manually check the image that can be done faster if you are okay with the terminal.
[14:00] <phillw> I'm one of the guys who keeps the documentation upto date
[14:46] <beef-supreme> how can i get the iso to a usb?
[14:46] <beef-supreme> unetbootin didn't do much
[14:48] <stlsaint> beef-supreme: are you on linux now?
[14:48] <beef-supreme> i am, but i'm not the one trying to install it
[14:48] <beef-supreme> why?
[14:48] <beef-supreme> i'm phone-"debugging"
[14:48] <stlsaint> beef-supreme: if you are runnign ubuntu you can use the usb-startup creator tool
[14:49] <beef-supreme> great idea
[14:50] <beef-supreme> trying it out
[14:58] <beef-supreme> that didn't work
[15:28] <stlsaint> beef-supreme: what are you trying to use and accomplish
[15:35] <beef-supreme> to install it
[15:35] <beef-supreme> to install lubuntu
[15:35] <beef-supreme> but in the meantime it worked
[15:36] <beef-supreme> thanks for the tips anyway,
[15:37] <beef-supreme> the cds booted eventually
[15:37] <beef-supreme> it was some bios setting
[15:37] <beef-supreme> that was acting weird
[15:54] <phillw> !grub
[15:54] <stlsaint> ah gotcha
[15:55] <phillw> !lubuntu
[17:06] <beef-supreme> hi
[17:06] <beef-supreme> how can i change the global font size?
[17:15] <AmberJ> Hello
[17:15] <head_victim> Gday
[17:15] <AmberJ> I just installed lubuntu 11.04 :)
[17:16] <head_victim> Nice work, I have it in a VM, still haven't made it to a real hardware installation
[17:16] <AmberJ> When I try to change wallpaper (by right clicking on desktop -> Desktop preferences -> Wallpaper mode -> Fill with background color only....This causes LXDE to restart
[17:17] <head_victim> Oh I've not come across that before
[17:17] <AmberJ> i.e. it drops me to login screen (lxdm?)
[17:17] <AmberJ> head_victim, I had tried reproducing it and it crashes every time I try it
[17:19] <phillw> AmberJ: I *think* it is a known bug.
[17:19] <head_victim> That really is weird, it works fine here on 10.10 and 11.10 but I don't have 11.04 around anywhere actually
[17:19] <head_victim> Oh wait, it rebooted in 11.10
[17:19] <head_victim> I lied :)
[17:19] <head_victim> Well it works in 10.10 apparently anything newer and it's broken
[17:20] <AmberJ> phillw, Where's the lubuntu bug tracker?
[17:21] <AmberJ> Can you link me to it?
[17:21] <AmberJ> I can do a quick search to see if it's reported already...
[17:22] <head_victim> Found it
[17:22] <head_victim> Bug 718343
[17:22] <AmberJ> yea...ty head_victim :)
[17:22] <head_victim> If you want to subscribe to it you will get updates when it's fixed :)
[17:23] <phillw> ty head_victim I'm just setting up a web-site, so only part paying attention!
[17:23] <head_victim> phillw: glad to help mate
[17:24] <AmberJ> head_victim, Well, I personally prefer a wallpaper rather than solid bgcolor :) I mistakenly clicked on that option and my lxde session restarted so thought of reporting it here...
[17:24] <head_victim> AmberJ: not a problem, thanks for thinking of use though, we can only make it better when we know it's broken :)
[17:24] <AmberJ> So, I dont think I need to subscribe
[17:31] <AmberJ> I'm planning to setup a 'lubuntu essentials' project....part of it will include ubuntu-restricted-extras package but there's other stuff that's not in there but worth installing on lubuntu, imho
[17:31] <AmberJ> What say?
[17:33] <bodhi_zazen> AmberJ: well, "worth installing" varies by individual
[17:33] <bodhi_zazen> One persons "worth installing" is another's bloat
[17:34] <bodhi_zazen> No need to re package the restricted stuff either
[17:34] <bodhi_zazen> IMO
[17:35] <bodhi_zazen> packaging the restricted stuff is problematic , thus "restricted" and so end users need to learn to install it for themselves, due to licensing issues, again IMO
[17:37] <AmberJ> bodhi_zazen, agreed...ok, so I'll keep a script in my local repository rather than creating a new project for the same...
[17:37] <bodhi_zazen> +1 or post a how to on your blog
[17:38] <AmberJ> yea..
[17:39] <bodhi_zazen> I have a post - install script I use, installs the extra apps I like, rsync my .bashrc and other config files
[17:42] <Thraspic> I'm looking to deactivate the highlighting that happens to my main menu icon when I hover over it, in lxpanel.  Any ideas?
[18:56] <bigs> hello
[18:57] <bigs> how do you enable desktop effects in Lubuntu 11.4 ?
[18:57] <bioterror> !compiz
[18:57] <g7kna> Has anybodu got Java working in Chromium un Lubuntu 11.04?
[18:58] <bioterror> g7kna, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ section 3.6.
[19:28] <beef-supreme> why does ps -af return nothing?
[19:47] <g7kna> bioterror, thanks.  Looks like a missing package icedtea6-plugin.  Added this and everything works.  Icedtea forces Firefox to be installed which is unnecessary from an operating system point of view#
[19:52] <stlsaint> bioterror: yo
[19:52] <bioterror> hi
[19:52] <stlsaint> sup
[19:52] <bioterror> nothing much
[19:57] <stlsaint> cool
[19:57] <stlsaint> get a chance to test pcmanfm yet?
[19:58] <bioterror> nope
[19:59] <stlsaint> aye
[20:09] <bioterror> silverarrow, got your aeropress? :D
[20:09] <silverarrow> it's still in the mail
[20:09] <bioterror> ho
[20:09] <bioterror> slow mail
[20:10] <silverarrow> It might be at the post office, actually
[20:10] <silverarrow> I have got a note from the postoffice, to pick up a parcel
[20:10] <silverarrow> I really hope it works
[20:11] <silverarrow> I have ordered two now, one to give away
[20:11] <bioterror> really?
[20:11] <bioterror> and it works
[20:11] <bioterror> i use it almost every day
[20:11] <silverarrow> yes, I have a friend who complains about bad coffee lol
[20:11] <bioterror> haha
[20:12] <silverarrow> at work they have these small press cans for one mug
[20:12] <silverarrow> maybe two smaller mugs
[20:12] <silverarrow> but a lot of grinds get in the coffee sometimes
[20:13] <bioterror> i get none
[20:13] <silverarrow> I had a very good cup of coffee today
[20:13] <silverarrow> I have only one of those old fashion French press cans, one liters size
[20:13] <bioterror> i need to buy new bag of chocolate coffee
[20:14] <silverarrow> adde flavor to the beans?
[20:14] <silverarrow> there's one place in town that still roast coffee beans
[20:15] <silverarrow> well two, but the other is a large factory
[20:15] <bioterror> we have many places in hellsinki
[20:15] <head_victim> I went to a linux conference here were there was a presentation on how to make your own coffee roaster and regulate the roasting process via linux.
[20:16] <bioterror> haha
[20:16] <head_victim> http://blip.tv/linuxconfau/building-a-linux-powered-coffee-roaster-4747063
[20:16] <silverarrow> there used to be several, but something happened decades ago, and the small coffee makers went out of buissness
[20:16] <head_victim> It was recorded
[20:17] <head_victim> This guy has FAR too much time on his hands.
[20:17] <silverarrow> lol
[20:17] <bioterror> he doesnt waste that time on irc
[20:18] <silverarrow>  I found this metal filter for the aeropress
[20:18] <silverarrow> I didn't order it though
[20:19] <head_victim> BTW that's the guy who basically wrote SAMBA.
[20:20] <silverarrow> so, Helsinki is the place for good coffee?
[20:21] <silverarrow> I sometimes write Helsingfors
[20:21] <silverarrow> that might be incorrect
[20:21] <bioterror> no its not
[20:21] <bioterror> nej det är inte
[20:22] <silverarrow> godt lol
[20:22] <bioterror> silverarrow, you should join #lubuntu-offtopic
[20:23] <bioterror> we can chat there, as this is mainly for suppport
[20:51] <Phosphenes> Hi everyone
[20:58] <stlsaint> Phosphenes: sup
[21:00] <irc-neo> hi to all! i have a problem with reboot, system does not start every time. i even don't see boot screen only black screen. Has anyone the same problem?
[21:02] <Phosphenes> I did, I never ended up fixing it. I just reinstalled the OS from scratch
[21:03] <Phosphenes> My step-dad said something about holding shift to bring up the grub loader. try that.
[21:05] <Phosphenes> So, I'm currently on kubuntu with the lxde desktop. Is there any reason I should switch to full blown lubuntu?
[21:05] <Phosphenes> Is there a difference or is it just the pre-packaged programs?
[21:08] <phillw> Phosphenes: lxdm is not the same as lxde
[21:10] <Phosphenes> Doesn't lubuntu use lxde?
[21:12] <phillw> yes it does, but lubuntu uses lxde as the Desktop Environment, the Desktop Manager is lxdm
[21:14] <phillw> lxdm is not present when you simply put lxde onto a system (there are some other things only lubuntu has as well).
[21:15] <bioterror> phillw, what are you talking about? :D
[21:16] <phillw> bioterror: IIR, we had one case where a user did not have the shutdown buttons on pure lxde?
[21:17] <bioterror> yeah, that was some debian user on mailing list
[21:18] <Phosphenes> Sorry, my computer froze. Anyone reply to me?
[21:18] <volkswagner> phillw: are you talking about me?
[21:18] <phillw> bioterror: it was kansassnoob, our new iso tester?
[21:24] <leszek> hi
[21:25] <stlsaint> leszek: yo
[21:25] <Phosphenes> Hi
[21:31] <stlsaint> aw who made the dev leave us!?!!?
[22:07] <phillw> bioterror: if you get bored, can you fire the a1 of 11.10 onto my server, had a request the other day for a direct iso link as the torrent was running really slow, thanks.
[22:10] <robinabo> hello
[22:11] <Phosphenes> Hi
[22:11] <robinabo> I seem to be having a problem
[22:12] <Phosphenes> I'm sort of new myself but I can try to help.
[22:12] <robinabo> nevermind, the problem didn't happen again
[22:12] <Phosphenes> lol
[22:12] <robinabo> gee you're good
[22:14] <robinabo> so do you know of a way to change the login screen of lubuntu?
[22:15] <robinabo> so that instead of asking me for my username, it displays all the usernames like ubuntu does
[22:15] <Phosphenes> No soory
[22:15] <Phosphenes> sorry*
[22:15] <Phosphenes> Check the forums
[22:16] <robinabo> will do
[22:17] <robinabo> so do you know when lubuntu will have ubuntu software center installed by default?
[22:17] <robinabo> cause for now I have to do it manually
[22:22] <Phosphenes> Dunno, I just started with lubuntu today
[22:22] <phillw> robinabo: USC is too 'big' for lubuntu as it stands, the devs are looking into some sort of minimalist version. In the meantime, synaptic package manager is your friend :)
[22:22] <Phosphenes> I always used synaptic when I was on Kubuntu anyways
[22:23] <stlsaint> i still dont see how USC is functionally better then synaptic??
[22:24] <phillw> USC is 'prettier' :P
[22:27] <stlsaint> yea that is truly it
[22:27] <stlsaint> heck simply using apt in terminal is more efficient lol
[23:50] <shomon> hi, I am trying to switch languages in lubuntu... I just upgraded a 10.10 cd to 11...
[23:50] <shomon> how do you do it in a terminal?