[00:01] <trism> yeah, that isn't a podcast feed though
[00:02] <BUGabundo> did you find the proper one ?
[00:08] <trism> there are several on the site, such as http://www.rtp.pt/multimedia/videocast/gera_podcast_tv.php?prog=1103 but I don't see any for that program unfortunately (I can't read the site though so I may have missed it)
[00:20] <BUGabundo> np trism
[00:20] <BUGabundo> thanks a lot
[01:27] <MarloweGirl> Hi, I wanted to try Oneiric & created a USB, but mouse & keyboard aren't working at the login screen. Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:28] <CarlFK> 2011-06-08 installed nightly.  it loads yenta_socket module, which my firewire EC card needs.  current nightly does not load it by default.  If I modprobe it, firewire card works.
[03:28] <CarlFK> any idea why it isn't loaded by default?
[03:29]  * CarlFK checks config...
[03:30] <CarlFK> both are same kernel, so this shows the same: grep -i yenta /boot/config-2.6.39-3-generic; CONFIG_YENTA=m
[04:11] <CarlFK> snd-hda-intel is no longer loaded either.  that seems to be something that just happened today.
[06:52] <head_victim> Is there any point enabling -proposed in a +1 release?
[07:00] <rww> head_victim: no
[07:00] <head_victim> rww: just checking, didn't think it would matter but you can never be too sure
[07:01] <rww> head_victim: as far as I know, the only repository that actually has stuff in it for +1 is the regular one (e.g. oneiric, rather than oneiric-backports,proposed,security,updates...)
[07:01] <rww> and then once it's released, the others start being used
[07:01] <head_victim> Makes sense but I figured no harm in just double checking
[07:02] <micahg> right, backports will probably start being used after feature freeze, but that's not guaranteed yet
[08:48] <Ian_Corne> MarloweGirl: is it each time you boot it?
[11:13] <MarloweGirl> Ian-Corne, yeah I made a live USB and when I boot from it, I can't login. I can't do anything really. It shows "Live User" as user name and asks for pw (which is different from usual Live images, which boot straight to desktop) but mouse and keyboard are completely unresponsive.
[11:40] <Ian_Corne> Is this from alpha1 or a nightly build?
[11:40] <Ian_Corne> I've not seen that problem passing by here yet, but I think most people here atm just upgrade
[11:40] <Ian_Corne> d
[11:48] <MarloweGirl> It was from 10th June Nightly. (I had tried the alpha 1 a few days earlier but couldn't get it to boot at all)
[11:49] <MarloweGirl> I might try again, but once I'm at the login screen, I'll try unplugging the keyboard, then replugging it in and see if that makes it work
[11:49] <MarloweGirl> I just wondered if this was a known problem and had a solution that didn't involve crawling under desks & fighting dust bunnies :)
[11:53] <Ian_Corne> Didn't see the problem yet
[11:53] <Ian_Corne> but the keyboard didn't respond at al?
[11:53] <MarloweGirl> No, couldn't type anything, couldn't move the mouse
[11:54] <Ian_Corne> I've had that before (in 8.04 or 8.10) and requried me to restart dbus via ssh
[11:54] <MarloweGirl> My keyboard & mouse are both USB, don't know if that's the issue
[11:54] <Ian_Corne> but the live cds don't have ssh
[11:58] <MarloweGirl> I'll try again using a different USB drive and see if I can do anything to make it work. Just wondered if there was anything obvious to try.
[11:58] <MarloweGirl> I'll let you know how I get on :)
[12:00] <Ian_Corne> ok :)
[12:19] <dsdale> I'm having a some trouble with wireless networking since upgrading to the oneiric alpha, and haven't been able to find any info on the web. Kubuntu's network manager plasmoid is just a red box with a white x in it, and when I attempt to scan for networks, it comes up with an empty list. Can anyone here comment?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:22] <Ian_Corne> it's a know issue dsdale
[12:23] <dsdale> thanks Ian_Corne, is it possible to find more information somewhere?
[12:23] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[12:23] <Ian_Corne> well, i don't know if it's fixable
[12:24] <dsdale> I mean more along the lines of status, or bug reports
[12:24] <Ian_Corne> I don't have a specific bugreport no sorry
[12:25] <dsdale> ok. it is helpful to know that I didn't somehow screw up come configuration during the upgrade. thanks
[12:26] <dsdale> Does anyone have information concerning kde updates in oneiric, how 4.7 is coming along?
[12:27] <MarloweGirl> Back from trying to login again! Still not working. The mouse pointer is frozen in the middle of the screen and the keyboard is dead. There are no lights on it at all, not even NumLock or CapsLock. Unplugging/replugging didn't work.
[12:27] <MarloweGirl> I've been googling the Ubuntu forums a little and I think I'm not the only one. A couple of folks have reported this problem. I think it's a problem with the daily builds from the last couple of days.
[12:28] <MarloweGirl> I think I'll just wait a couple of days and hope the problem is fixed and try again.
[12:30] <Ian_Corne> you can also install natty and upgrade
[12:31] <MarloweGirl> Doh! That hadn't occurred to me! I'll try that. Thanks! :)
[12:34] <Ian_Corne> np!
[12:34] <BluesKaj> dsdale, Wednesday, June 22, 2011: KDE 4.7 Release Candidate 1 Release
[12:35] <BluesKaj> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule#Wednesday.2C_June_22.2C_2011:_KDE_4.7_Release_Candidate_1_Release
[12:36] <Ian_Corne> the kubuntu ppa is updated
[12:36] <dsdale> BluesKaj, I thought I heard that it would take some time to provide ubuntu packages
[12:37] <Ian_Corne> ah no
[12:37] <BluesKaj> dsdale, you may be right , I haven't heard much about any ppas or backports
[12:37] <Ian_Corne> i read 4.6.4 ppa :(
[12:38] <dsdale> if you go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ , oneiric is not listed
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Ian_Corne, not for "O"..I had an update on my other box running 11.04
[12:39] <BluesKaj> to 4.6.4
[12:40] <dsdale> will oneiric skip 4.6.4 and go straight to 4.7?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> dsdale, yeah, that appears to be the case, I read 4.7 was goinf tyo be default for O
[12:41] <BluesKaj> going to be
[12:42] <jtaylor> 4.7 won't be out until april next year?
[12:42] <jtaylor> or ahve they changed their release policy?
[12:43] <jtaylor> ah kde not gcc :/
[12:43]  * jtaylor should read properly ^^
[12:44] <BluesKaj> jtaylor, http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule#Wednesday.2C_July_27.2C_2011:_KDE_4.7_Release
[12:44] <Ian_Corne> :D
[12:44] <yofel> well, until we know more you can pretty much throw that schedule out of the window. I mean... we don't even have beta2 yet
[12:46] <dsdale> did I read correctly that 4.6.4 includes the long-awaited transition to akonadi? Kind of surprising for a micro release
[12:46] <yofel> and getting kdepim 4.6 out has a higher priority currently than 4.7
[12:47] <yofel> dsdale: well, from a KDE point yes, but we don't ship them together (we're not even done yet)
[12:47] <yofel> we won't put them into the same PPA either (kdepim will be in backports probably)
[12:48] <dsdale> ok, that actually seems sensible
[12:50] <BluesKaj> I hope the dependencies aren't so large that if one wants to delete akonadi , it doesn't take all of kde with it like nepomuk does
[12:50] <dsdale> Will anyone from this community/Canonical be going to the Qt Contributors' Summit?
[12:50] <yofel> well, it will take pretty much the whole of kdepim with it I think
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yofel, then I hope there's an option to disable it
[12:52] <yofel> for kdepim not, 4.6 is tightly integrated with akonadi. kmail for example is pretty much useless without akonadi running
[12:52] <yofel> akonadi isn't as bad as it once was though
[12:54] <BluesKaj> yofel, well I gave up on kmail when kde 4 was intro'd ..it became much to clunky for my taste and needs
[12:54] <BluesKaj> too clunky
[12:54] <yofel> well, I tried kmail2, it's nice but I'm too used to thunderbird by now
[12:55] <BluesKaj> not in a work environment here , just an ordinary home setup
[12:56] <dsdale> as soon as kontact has support for talking to Exchange servers, I can't wait to go back. I like the Kontact suite so much better than Outlook and Apple's Mail and Calendar
[12:56] <BluesKaj> gmail does the job and if it monitors keywords in our emails for advertizing purposes , so be it
[12:57] <Ian_Corne> You're gonna get ads thrown at you anyway, i'd rather have relevant ads then viagra spam
[12:57] <BluesKaj> yeah , no kidding
[12:58] <dsdale> I don't like gmail's conversation view. I wish it worked more like their Reader program, where an entry isn't marked as read until it actually receives focus.
[12:59] <BluesKaj> it would be much different for us in a work/business setup that's for sure , then kmail might be relavent
[13:16] <BluesKaj> interesting tho, XBMC runs smoother in Oneiric than natty and it's more resposive
[13:16] <BluesKaj> err responsive
[13:18] <nanomad> hi
[13:18] <Ian_Corne> I found my flash movies (southpark) to run smoother too, and i was able to view fullscreen without hampering
[13:18] <nanomad> does gnome3 work well under oneiric?
[13:28] <elros> if you want a lean e-mail client, try sylpheed
[13:37] <nanomad> did lightdm replace gdm in ubuntu+1?
[13:38] <wzssyqa> nanomad: y, it did
[13:39] <nanomad> wzssyqa: thanks..no i only need to find out why gnome3 is logging myself out
[13:39] <nanomad> any clues?
[13:43] <yofel> enable apport in /etc/default/apport and check in /var/crash what crashes
[13:47] <Ian_Corne> shoudln't apport be enabled automaticly?
[13:47] <Ian_Corne> also .xsession-errors could give you more information
[13:48] <yofel> IIRC apport isn't enabled automatically til alpha3
[13:48] <yofel> too crashy till then
[13:49] <Ian_Corne> aah
[13:49] <Ian_Corne> ok :)
[13:50] <yofel> (as in: you'll flood LP with bug reports nobody cares about)
[15:29] <BUGabundo> G'aft
[15:29] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, lessfs ppa updated with fresh packages
[15:29] <BUGabundo> ahah
[15:29] <BUGabundo> you didn't !!!
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> :D
[15:31]  * BUGabundo fires a VM
[15:31] <bjsnider> somebody tried to get it into debian about a year ago and had decent packaging scripts available, so the app itself should actually work
[15:32] <bjsnider> i built it for oneiric, natty, and lucid
[15:34] <Ian_Corne> poor maverick :D
[15:36] <BUGabundo> hey
[15:36] <BUGabundo> I still have a machine on it
[15:36] <Ian_Corne> hey
[15:36] <BUGabundo> really need to format it, and get it on natty
[15:37] <BUGabundo> (and get rid of BTRFS)
[15:37] <charlie-tca> Good afternoon, BUGabundo
[15:37] <BUGabundo> oh ahy charlie-tca
[15:39] <charlie-tca> Fedora 16 is going to have BTRFS
[15:40] <BUGabundo> we know
[15:40] <BUGabundo> we discussed that yesterday
[15:40] <Ian_Corne> and BUGabundo marks them crazy
[15:40] <charlie-tca> oh
[15:40] <BUGabundo> get the chat log
[15:41] <charlie-tca> behind again, huh?
[15:41] <BUGabundo> some funny bits in there
[15:41] <BUGabundo> :)
[15:42] <Ian_Corne> is there a dev channel for empathy?
[15:42] <Ian_Corne> doesn't seem like #empathy is it
[16:25] <BUGabundo> meh
[16:25] <BUGabundo> new VM is stuck at installing, cause its trying to download packages
[16:25] <BUGabundo> after I said I didn't want any packages to be downloaded
[16:25] <BUGabundo> fail natty
[16:29] <charlie-tca> The packages downloading you check is for any updates. The installer still needs to download the packages it installs, unless you disconnect from the internet
[16:32] <BUGabundo> yeah, I should have put the vm offline
[16:56] <CarlFK> june 8 2.6.39-3 loaded yenta_cardbus and snd-hda-intel.  now with 2.6.39-3 they are not loaded, so a firewire EC card does not work and I have no sound.
[16:56] <BUGabundo> $ sudo mklessfs dddisk.img
[16:57] <BUGabundo> humm but doesn't show anything in the partition table
[16:57] <BUGabundo> :\\
[16:57] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: ^^^^^^
[16:57] <CarlFK> should I just report these as bugs, or is there something I should be looking for to see what's going on?
[16:58] <CarlFK> BUGabundo: what's mklessfs ?
[16:58] <Ian_Corne> CarlFK: 2.6.39-3 is only a temporary kernel so i'm not sure..
[16:58] <Ian_Corne> 3.0 is already in the repos
[16:58] <BUGabundo> CarlFK: trying a new FS
[16:59] <BUGabundo> LessFS
[16:59] <BUGabundo> online deduping
[16:59] <CarlFK> Ian_Corne: sounds like I should test 3 - is it just an apt-get?
[16:59] <Ian_Corne> yes
[17:00]  * CarlFK yells "to the apt-cave!"
[17:02] <CarlFK> Ian_Corne:  linux-image-3.0-0-generic right?
[17:04] <penguin42> good to get it in this early; it'll be interesting to see how many packages fail because of bogus version compares
[17:06] <Ian_Corne> yes
[17:06] <CarlFK> thanks
[17:09] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, you'd have to talk to the developers about it
[17:09] <BUGabundo> :\
[17:10] <BUGabundo> #lessfs ?
[17:10] <bjsnider> i'm not sure how much documentation there is and whatnot
[17:10] <bjsnider> yes lessfs
[17:10] <BUGabundo> empty
[17:10] <BUGabundo> #openfiler 
[17:11] <BUGabundo> heck no
[17:11] <BUGabundo> let me grab some food
[17:32]  * BUGabundo googles lessfs for dummies
[17:50] <BUGabundo>  sudo cp /usr/share/doc/lessfs/examples/lessfs.cfg .
[17:50] <BUGabundo> was the missing step
[17:50] <BUGabundo> now to configure it
[18:55] <Ian_Corne> you guys know if it's possible to change my launchpad ID?
[18:55] <Ian_Corne> nvm i just did :D
[18:56]  * rww notes #launchpad for the future ;)
[19:09] <SudoKing> i'm afraid to restart my computer this time, last time it was saying my hard drive wasn't a system bootable disk ;)
[19:46] <penguin42> rww: Be patient when using it - it normally takes quite a whole for a response, even in the week
[19:50] <BluesKaj> SudoKing, did you run fsck , take a look here, http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[20:51] <rww> yofel: Where should I be hanging out if I want to keep an eye on Kubuntu stuff for +1?
[20:51] <yofel> rww: #kubuntu-devel, we don't bite ;)
[20:51] <rww> alrighty, thanks :)
[20:52]  * rww wants /some/ notice if his KDE is going to break :)
[20:54] <yofel> rww: see the 4.6.80 link in the topic, until everything there is in the PPA at least you don't have to worry...
[21:03]  * Ian_Corne wonders what goes on in ubuntu+2
[21:14] <rww> Ian_Corne: #ubuntu+2 is +if, presumably to here.
[21:14] <Ian_Corne> +if ?
[21:15] <Ian_Corne> it's invite only
[21:15] <rww> +i is invite-only, +f means it forwards somewhere. If you're already in the channel it forwards to, you get a message about it being invite-only.
[21:17] <Ian_Corne> aah k
[23:07] <Ian_Corne> I find it funny that they managed to break the notification for sound increase or decrease :p