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trismyeah, that isn't a podcast feed though00:01
BUGabundodid you find the proper one ?00:02
trismthere are several on the site, such as http://www.rtp.pt/multimedia/videocast/gera_podcast_tv.php?prog=1103 but I don't see any for that program unfortunately (I can't read the site though so I may have missed it)00:08
BUGabundonp trism00:20
BUGabundothanks a lot00:20
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MarloweGirlHi, I wanted to try Oneiric & created a USB, but mouse & keyboard aren't working at the login screen. Anyone have any suggestions?01:27
CarlFK2011-06-08 installed nightly.  it loads yenta_socket module, which my firewire EC card needs.  current nightly does not load it by default.  If I modprobe it, firewire card works.03:28
CarlFKany idea why it isn't loaded by default?03:28
* CarlFK checks config...03:29
CarlFKboth are same kernel, so this shows the same: grep -i yenta /boot/config-2.6.39-3-generic; CONFIG_YENTA=m03:30
CarlFKsnd-hda-intel is no longer loaded either.  that seems to be something that just happened today.04:11
head_victimIs there any point enabling -proposed in a +1 release?06:52
rwwhead_victim: no07:00
head_victimrww: just checking, didn't think it would matter but you can never be too sure07:00
rwwhead_victim: as far as I know, the only repository that actually has stuff in it for +1 is the regular one (e.g. oneiric, rather than oneiric-backports,proposed,security,updates...)07:01
rwwand then once it's released, the others start being used07:01
head_victimMakes sense but I figured no harm in just double checking07:01
micahgright, backports will probably start being used after feature freeze, but that's not guaranteed yet07:02
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Ian_CorneMarloweGirl: is it each time you boot it?08:48
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MarloweGirlIan-Corne, yeah I made a live USB and when I boot from it, I can't login. I can't do anything really. It shows "Live User" as user name and asks for pw (which is different from usual Live images, which boot straight to desktop) but mouse and keyboard are completely unresponsive.11:13
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Ian_CorneIs this from alpha1 or a nightly build?11:40
Ian_CorneI've not seen that problem passing by here yet, but I think most people here atm just upgrade11:40
Ian_Corned11:40
MarloweGirlIt was from 10th June Nightly. (I had tried the alpha 1 a few days earlier but couldn't get it to boot at all)11:48
MarloweGirlI might try again, but once I'm at the login screen, I'll try unplugging the keyboard, then replugging it in and see if that makes it work11:49
MarloweGirlI just wondered if this was a known problem and had a solution that didn't involve crawling under desks & fighting dust bunnies :)11:49
Ian_CorneDidn't see the problem yet11:53
Ian_Cornebut the keyboard didn't respond at al?11:53
MarloweGirlNo, couldn't type anything, couldn't move the mouse11:53
Ian_CorneI've had that before (in 8.04 or 8.10) and requried me to restart dbus via ssh11:54
MarloweGirlMy keyboard & mouse are both USB, don't know if that's the issue11:54
Ian_Cornebut the live cds don't have ssh11:54
MarloweGirlI'll try again using a different USB drive and see if I can do anything to make it work. Just wondered if there was anything obvious to try.11:58
MarloweGirlI'll let you know how I get on :)11:58
Ian_Corneok :)12:00
dsdaleI'm having a some trouble with wireless networking since upgrading to the oneiric alpha, and haven't been able to find any info on the web. Kubuntu's network manager plasmoid is just a red box with a white x in it, and when I attempt to scan for networks, it comes up with an empty list. Can anyone here comment?12:19
BluesKajHiyas12:21
Ian_Corneit's a know issue dsdale12:22
dsdalethanks Ian_Corne, is it possible to find more information somewhere?12:23
Ian_Cornehmm12:23
Ian_Cornewell, i don't know if it's fixable12:23
dsdaleI mean more along the lines of status, or bug reports12:24
Ian_CorneI don't have a specific bugreport no sorry12:24
dsdaleok. it is helpful to know that I didn't somehow screw up come configuration during the upgrade. thanks12:25
dsdaleDoes anyone have information concerning kde updates in oneiric, how 4.7 is coming along?12:26
MarloweGirlBack from trying to login again! Still not working. The mouse pointer is frozen in the middle of the screen and the keyboard is dead. There are no lights on it at all, not even NumLock or CapsLock. Unplugging/replugging didn't work.12:27
MarloweGirlI've been googling the Ubuntu forums a little and I think I'm not the only one. A couple of folks have reported this problem. I think it's a problem with the daily builds from the last couple of days.12:27
MarloweGirlI think I'll just wait a couple of days and hope the problem is fixed and try again.12:28
Ian_Corneyou can also install natty and upgrade12:30
MarloweGirlDoh! That hadn't occurred to me! I'll try that. Thanks! :)12:31
Ian_Cornenp!12:34
BluesKajdsdale, Wednesday, June 22, 2011: KDE 4.7 Release Candidate 1 Release12:34
BluesKajhttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule#Wednesday.2C_June_22.2C_2011:_KDE_4.7_Release_Candidate_1_Release12:35
Ian_Cornethe kubuntu ppa is updated12:36
dsdaleBluesKaj, I thought I heard that it would take some time to provide ubuntu packages12:36
Ian_Corneah no12:37
BluesKajdsdale, you may be right , I haven't heard much about any ppas or backports12:37
Ian_Cornei read 4.6.4 ppa :(12:37
dsdaleif you go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ , oneiric is not listed12:38
BluesKajIan_Corne, not for "O"..I had an update on my other box running 11.0412:39
BluesKajto 4.6.412:39
dsdalewill oneiric skip 4.6.4 and go straight to 4.7?12:40
BluesKajdsdale, yeah, that appears to be the case, I read 4.7 was goinf tyo be default for O12:41
BluesKajgoing to be12:41
jtaylor4.7 won't be out until april next year?12:42
jtayloror ahve they changed their release policy?12:42
jtaylorah kde not gcc :/12:43
* jtaylor should read properly ^^12:43
BluesKajjtaylor, http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule#Wednesday.2C_July_27.2C_2011:_KDE_4.7_Release12:44
Ian_Corne:D12:44
yofelwell, until we know more you can pretty much throw that schedule out of the window. I mean... we don't even have beta2 yet12:44
dsdaledid I read correctly that 4.6.4 includes the long-awaited transition to akonadi? Kind of surprising for a micro release12:46
yofeland getting kdepim 4.6 out has a higher priority currently than 4.712:46
yofeldsdale: well, from a KDE point yes, but we don't ship them together (we're not even done yet)12:47
yofelwe won't put them into the same PPA either (kdepim will be in backports probably)12:47
dsdaleok, that actually seems sensible12:48
BluesKajI hope the dependencies aren't so large that if one wants to delete akonadi , it doesn't take all of kde with it like nepomuk does12:50
dsdaleWill anyone from this community/Canonical be going to the Qt Contributors' Summit?12:50
yofelwell, it will take pretty much the whole of kdepim with it I think12:50
BluesKajyofel, then I hope there's an option to disable it12:51
yofelfor kdepim not, 4.6 is tightly integrated with akonadi. kmail for example is pretty much useless without akonadi running12:52
yofelakonadi isn't as bad as it once was though12:52
BluesKajyofel, well I gave up on kmail when kde 4 was intro'd ..it became much to clunky for my taste and needs12:54
BluesKajtoo clunky12:54
yofelwell, I tried kmail2, it's nice but I'm too used to thunderbird by now12:54
BluesKajnot in a work environment here , just an ordinary home setup12:55
dsdaleas soon as kontact has support for talking to Exchange servers, I can't wait to go back. I like the Kontact suite so much better than Outlook and Apple's Mail and Calendar12:56
BluesKajgmail does the job and if it monitors keywords in our emails for advertizing purposes , so be it12:56
Ian_CorneYou're gonna get ads thrown at you anyway, i'd rather have relevant ads then viagra spam12:57
BluesKajyeah , no kidding12:57
dsdaleI don't like gmail's conversation view. I wish it worked more like their Reader program, where an entry isn't marked as read until it actually receives focus.12:58
BluesKajit would be much different for us in a work/business setup that's for sure , then kmail might be relavent12:59
BluesKajinteresting tho, XBMC runs smoother in Oneiric than natty and it's more resposive13:16
BluesKajerr responsive13:16
nanomadhi13:18
Ian_CorneI found my flash movies (southpark) to run smoother too, and i was able to view fullscreen without hampering13:18
nanomaddoes gnome3 work well under oneiric?13:18
elrosif you want a lean e-mail client, try sylpheed13:28
nanomaddid lightdm replace gdm in ubuntu+1?13:37
wzssyqananomad: y, it did13:38
nanomadwzssyqa: thanks..no i only need to find out why gnome3 is logging myself out13:39
nanomadany clues?13:39
yofelenable apport in /etc/default/apport and check in /var/crash what crashes13:43
Ian_Corneshoudln't apport be enabled automaticly?13:47
Ian_Cornealso .xsession-errors could give you more information13:47
yofelIIRC apport isn't enabled automatically til alpha313:48
yofeltoo crashy till then13:48
Ian_Corneaah13:49
Ian_Corneok :)13:49
yofel(as in: you'll flood LP with bug reports nobody cares about)13:50
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BUGabundoG'aft15:29
bjsniderBUGabundo, lessfs ppa updated with fresh packages15:29
BUGabundoahah15:29
BUGabundoyou didn't !!!15:29
Ian_Corne:D15:30
* BUGabundo fires a VM15:31
bjsnidersomebody tried to get it into debian about a year ago and had decent packaging scripts available, so the app itself should actually work15:31
bjsnideri built it for oneiric, natty, and lucid15:32
Ian_Cornepoor maverick :D15:34
BUGabundohey15:36
BUGabundoI still have a machine on it15:36
Ian_Cornehey15:36
BUGabundoreally need to format it, and get it on natty15:36
BUGabundo(and get rid of BTRFS)15:37
charlie-tcaGood afternoon, BUGabundo15:37
BUGabundooh ahy charlie-tca15:37
charlie-tcaFedora 16 is going to have BTRFS15:39
BUGabundowe know15:40
BUGabundowe discussed that yesterday15:40
Ian_Corneand BUGabundo marks them crazy15:40
charlie-tcaoh15:40
BUGabundoget the chat log15:40
charlie-tcabehind again, huh?15:41
BUGabundosome funny bits in there15:41
BUGabundo:)15:41
Ian_Corneis there a dev channel for empathy?15:42
Ian_Cornedoesn't seem like #empathy is it15:42
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BUGabundomeh16:25
BUGabundonew VM is stuck at installing, cause its trying to download packages16:25
BUGabundoafter I said I didn't want any packages to be downloaded16:25
BUGabundofail natty16:25
charlie-tcaThe packages downloading you check is for any updates. The installer still needs to download the packages it installs, unless you disconnect from the internet16:29
BUGabundoyeah, I should have put the vm offline16:32
CarlFKjune 8 2.6.39-3 loaded yenta_cardbus and snd-hda-intel.  now with 2.6.39-3 they are not loaded, so a firewire EC card does not work and I have no sound.16:56
BUGabundo$ sudo mklessfs dddisk.img16:56
BUGabundohumm but doesn't show anything in the partition table16:57
BUGabundo:\\16:57
BUGabundobjsnider: ^^^^^^16:57
CarlFKshould I just report these as bugs, or is there something I should be looking for to see what's going on?16:57
CarlFKBUGabundo: what's mklessfs ?16:58
Ian_CorneCarlFK: 2.6.39-3 is only a temporary kernel so i'm not sure..16:58
Ian_Corne3.0 is already in the repos16:58
BUGabundoCarlFK: trying a new FS16:58
BUGabundoLessFS16:59
BUGabundoonline deduping16:59
CarlFKIan_Corne: sounds like I should test 3 - is it just an apt-get?16:59
Ian_Corneyes16:59
* CarlFK yells "to the apt-cave!"17:00
CarlFKIan_Corne:  linux-image-3.0-0-generic right?17:02
penguin42good to get it in this early; it'll be interesting to see how many packages fail because of bogus version compares17:04
Ian_Corneyes17:06
CarlFKthanks17:06
bjsniderBUGabundo, you'd have to talk to the developers about it17:09
BUGabundo:\17:09
BUGabundo#lessfs ?17:10
bjsnideri'm not sure how much documentation there is and whatnot17:10
bjsnideryes lessfs17:10
BUGabundoempty17:10
BUGabundo#openfilerĀ 17:10
BUGabundoheck no17:11
BUGabundolet me grab some food17:11
* BUGabundo googles lessfs for dummies17:32
BUGabundo sudo cp /usr/share/doc/lessfs/examples/lessfs.cfg .17:50
BUGabundowas the missing step17:50
BUGabundonow to configure it17:50
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Ian_Corneyou guys know if it's possible to change my launchpad ID?18:55
Ian_Cornenvm i just did :D18:55
* rww notes #launchpad for the future ;)18:56
SudoKingi'm afraid to restart my computer this time, last time it was saying my hard drive wasn't a system bootable disk ;)19:09
penguin42rww: Be patient when using it - it normally takes quite a whole for a response, even in the week19:46
BluesKajSudoKing, did you run fsck , take a look here, http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck19:50
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rwwyofel: Where should I be hanging out if I want to keep an eye on Kubuntu stuff for +1?20:51
yofelrww: #kubuntu-devel, we don't bite ;)20:51
rwwalrighty, thanks :)20:51
* rww wants /some/ notice if his KDE is going to break :)20:52
yofelrww: see the 4.6.80 link in the topic, until everything there is in the PPA at least you don't have to worry...20:54
* Ian_Corne wonders what goes on in ubuntu+221:03
rwwIan_Corne: #ubuntu+2 is +if, presumably to here.21:14
Ian_Corne+if ?21:14
Ian_Corneit's invite only21:15
rww+i is invite-only, +f means it forwards somewhere. If you're already in the channel it forwards to, you get a message about it being invite-only.21:15
Ian_Corneaah k21:17
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Ian_CorneI find it funny that they managed to break the notification for sound increase or decrease :p23:07

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