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| * MrCurious struggles to find qemu-system-arm | 05:22 | |
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| armin76 | ogra_: got an origen board? | 12:29 |
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| MrCurious | this keyring really annoys me | 22:24 |
| MrCurious | headless machines should not require a login to bring up network | 22:24 |
| persia | Which keyring? | 22:24 |
| persia | They don't, but to not do so you need to configure the network, rather than relying on Network Manager | 22:25 |
| MrCurious | unlock login keyring | 22:25 |
| MrCurious | the login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer | 22:25 |
| MrCurious | and to configure the network not relying on network manager, guessing there is not a nice gui for that | 22:26 |
| persia | There's gnome-network-properties, but it doesn't get as much care, no. | 22:26 |
| persia | Right. The package is called gnome-network-admin. | 22:27 |
| MrCurious | installing that, see where it takes me :D | 22:30 |
| persia | If it doesn't quite do what you want, editing /etc/network/interfaces is likely to do the right thing. | 22:35 |
| MrCurious | yeah | 22:35 |
| MrCurious | sigh. i think login keyring has it wrong | 22:45 |
| MrCurious | if the user is auto logged in, should inherit its privs, and keyring acess | 22:45 |
| persia | No, it intentionally doesn't. | 22:46 |
| MrCurious | as asking for a pw after defeating a login pw request makes no sense | 22:46 |
| persia | The idea being that autologin shouldn't automatically unencrypt your secrets. | 22:46 |
| MrCurious | so intensionally allows them to login un challenged, but block them for touch ing teh net? | 22:46 |
| persia | No. Network access works *unless* there is a password. | 22:46 |
| MrCurious | is it possible to uninstall this keyring, so all apps can go back to the pre-keyring behavior? | 22:47 |
| persia | pre-keyring is ~ 2007 | 22:47 |
| MrCurious | i am ok with that | 22:47 |
| persia | Sure, but Ubuntu wasn't compiling ARM back then. | 22:47 |
| MrCurious | indeed | 22:47 |
| persia | I suppose you could take the source of an old release, port to ARM, etc. ... | 22:47 |
| MrCurious | what a PITA if you want to have a wireless networked system with the option to plug in a head | 22:48 |
| MrCurious | i think there is a usability issue here that has not been addressed, or i am the only crazy person who wants their computer to connect to wifi before they login | 22:49 |
| persia | No, lots of folks want that: the common use case is $HOME-on-nfs | 22:49 |
| MrCurious | that cant be. i MUST have configured something wrong this install, as i THOUGHT it was auto logging in and connecting to teh network at one time | 22:49 |
| MrCurious | shouldnt the wifi WPA2 setup be somewhat easier to find/enable then? | 22:50 |
| persia | Yeah, well. Talk to the GNOME folk who decided this was the right model. | 22:51 |
| persia | But keep in mind the counter-argument: just because someone happens to pick up your laptop, you don't want them to have all your passwords. | 22:53 |
| MrCurious | or the argument that wifi password does not belong on the keyring | 22:55 |
| MrCurious | i am suddenly wishing for a debian dist | 22:55 |
| MrCurious | perhaps this is the answer i seek | 22:57 |
| MrCurious | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 | 22:57 |
| stgraber | MrCurious: it's possible to have a system-wide setting in NetworkManager. It's ini-format files in /etc/NetworkManager/. Not sure if that still works with NetworkManager 0.9 but it definitely worked with 0.8 (used for a few customers who needed network for login) | 22:58 |
| persia | Debian's Network Manager behaves the same. | 23:00 |
| persia | stgraber, Does that correspond with "make available to all users"? | 23:01 |
| stgraber | persia: I think so. IIRC that feature would convert your network definition from gconf+gnome-keyring into the .conf file in /etc/NetworkManager | 23:01 |
| persia | That feature is still present in 0.9, although I'm not sure of the mechanism. | 23:02 |
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