| airurando | night night #ubuntu-ie | 00:44 |
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| === VampiricPada is now known as VampiricPadraig | ||
| airurando | evening | 20:44 |
| steampunkey | hi there | 20:47 |
| steampunkey | not here to talk about GNU/Linux | 20:47 |
| steampunkey | hope you won't mind going OT with me | 20:47 |
| steampunkey | i'm interested in the meaning of these lyrics: http://www.kinglaoghaire.com/site/lyrics/song_364.html | 20:47 |
| steampunkey | is it ironic? | 20:47 |
| steampunkey | what happened at "Erin's border"? | 20:49 |
| moylan | well ireland is an island and the only border of any significance is the one between north and south. a lot has happened at that border. | 20:51 |
| steampunkey | i hoped for some insight rather than deduction, no offense ;-P | 20:52 |
| moylan | well it's a song so it's stuffed with methaphors that are a little vague. sorry. | 20:53 |
| steampunkey | Perhaps I should mention that Wolfe Tones have preformed it for "50 Great Rebel Songs and Ballads" | 20:54 |
| steampunkey | maybe the Irish from the north would know, but #northernireland is invite only :-( | 20:54 |
| steampunkey | (make that two hashes: ##northernireland) | 20:55 |
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| steampunkey | ehm what | 21:14 |
| airurando | what's confusing steampunkey? | 21:18 |
| steampunkey | the song. ;-) | 21:44 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 21:44 |
| steampunkey | i thought i reconnected, but it was just a topic switch | 21:45 |
| airurando | hi czajkowski | 21:47 |
| airurando | steampunkey I find that song confusing to. | 21:48 |
| steampunkey | heh | 21:48 |
| airurando | steampunkey where are you based? | 21:48 |
| steampunkey | A Catholic European country | 21:48 |
| steampunkey | Actually, you can see my IP. I'm from Croatia | 21:49 |
| moylan | sooooo not ireland :-D | 21:49 |
| steampunkey | anonymity fail | 21:49 |
| steampunkey | moylan: that'd be correct. I'm not an Ubuntu user either. Debian here. | 21:49 |
| airurando | steampunkey not sure what the best IRC channel would be to get a definitive answer to you Question. | 21:51 |
| czajkowski | steampunkey: try debian on oftc | 21:51 |
| steampunkey | czajkowski: O.O | 21:52 |
| airurando | steampunkey: moylan probably gave the best response possible from this channel. | 21:52 |
| moylan | the question was about irish song lyrics. i'm a history buff and know my was around both the wolftones and irish history and it's ringing no specific bells. give me 5 minutes and i'll google the bugger. | 21:53 |
| steampunkey | moylan: it's hard to even find the lyrics, let alone their meanings | 21:53 |
| steampunkey | [20:53] <steampunkey> moylan: it's hard to even find the lyrics, let alone their meanings | 21:54 |
| czajkowski | ok | 21:54 |
| czajkowski | thought it was a tech question hence my comment re debian | 21:55 |
| steampunkey | k | 21:55 |
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| moylan | well i could find history for some of the wolf tones songs but not 'the rights of man' https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wolfe_Tones_discography | 22:06 |
| moylan | considering that the border is only 90 years old it is odd that there is no specific history in relation to such a new song. | 22:06 |
| paxcoder | moylan: your last sentence doesn't sound right | 22:22 |
| moylan | might be getting somewhere. http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=5530#471631 | 22:23 |
| airurando | must dash... night night all. | 22:29 |
| moylan | i can only think that many irish trad songs end up changing over time. in 1798 there was no border so a reference in a song would make no sense while in 1968 when the wolf tones recorded their version it would. | 22:39 |
| paxcoder | *shrugs* | 22:41 |
| paxcoder | thanks for trying | 22:41 |
| moylan | still thinking on it. the only division of note that caused strife in 1798 was that between protestant and catholic. ironically most people forget that wolf tone was a protestant. | 22:47 |
| moylan | especially with the line 'with each communion' | 22:58 |
| paxcoder | moylan: i don't get the queen in it | 23:04 |
| paxcoder | makes it sounds like a loyalist song o.O | 23:05 |
| moylan | well the uk has only had 2 queens when it comes to ireland queen elizabeth i and queen elizabeth ii. i think in this case the queen represents ireland. especially with the reference to grainne | 23:09 |
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