[00:44] night night #ubuntu-ie === VampiricPada is now known as VampiricPadraig [20:44] evening [20:47] hi there [20:47] not here to talk about GNU/Linux [20:47] hope you won't mind going OT with me [20:47] i'm interested in the meaning of these lyrics: http://www.kinglaoghaire.com/site/lyrics/song_364.html [20:47] is it ironic? [20:49] what happened at "Erin's border"? [20:51] well ireland is an island and the only border of any significance is the one between north and south. a lot has happened at that border. [20:52] i hoped for some insight rather than deduction, no offense ;-P [20:53] well it's a song so it's stuffed with methaphors that are a little vague. sorry. [20:54] Perhaps I should mention that Wolfe Tones have preformed it for "50 Great Rebel Songs and Ballads" [20:54] maybe the Irish from the north would know, but #northernireland is invite only :-( [20:55] (make that two hashes: ##northernireland) === airurando changed the topic of #ubuntu-ie to: Welcome to Ubuntu Ireland! || http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/ || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam || This channel is logged - logs at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ || Next IRC Meeting: 15th Jun 2011 @ 8pm || Next Ubuntu Hour Limerick to be determined, Absolute Hotel || Location and time of the next UH Dublin is a surprise!! [21:14] ehm what [21:18] what's confusing steampunkey? [21:44] the song. ;-) [21:44] aloha [21:45] i thought i reconnected, but it was just a topic switch [21:47] hi czajkowski [21:48] steampunkey I find that song confusing to. [21:48] heh [21:48] steampunkey where are you based? [21:48] A Catholic European country [21:49] Actually, you can see my IP. I'm from Croatia [21:49] sooooo not ireland :-D [21:49] anonymity fail [21:49] moylan: that'd be correct. I'm not an Ubuntu user either. Debian here. [21:51] steampunkey not sure what the best IRC channel would be to get a definitive answer to you Question. [21:51] steampunkey: try debian on oftc [21:52] czajkowski: O.O [21:52] steampunkey: moylan probably gave the best response possible from this channel. [21:53] the question was about irish song lyrics. i'm a history buff and know my was around both the wolftones and irish history and it's ringing no specific bells. give me 5 minutes and i'll google the bugger. [21:53] moylan: it's hard to even find the lyrics, let alone their meanings [21:54] [20:53] moylan: it's hard to even find the lyrics, let alone their meanings [21:54] ok [21:55] thought it was a tech question hence my comment re debian [21:55] k === steampunkey is now known as paxcoder [22:06] well i could find history for some of the wolf tones songs but not 'the rights of man' https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wolfe_Tones_discography [22:06] considering that the border is only 90 years old it is odd that there is no specific history in relation to such a new song. [22:22] moylan: your last sentence doesn't sound right [22:23] might be getting somewhere. http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=5530#471631 [22:29] must dash... night night all. [22:39] i can only think that many irish trad songs end up changing over time. in 1798 there was no border so a reference in a song would make no sense while in 1968 when the wolf tones recorded their version it would. [22:41] *shrugs* [22:41] thanks for trying [22:47] still thinking on it. the only division of note that caused strife in 1798 was that between protestant and catholic. ironically most people forget that wolf tone was a protestant. [22:58] especially with the line 'with each communion' [23:04] moylan: i don't get the queen in it [23:05] makes it sounds like a loyalist song o.O [23:09] well the uk has only had 2 queens when it comes to ireland queen elizabeth i and queen elizabeth ii. i think in this case the queen represents ireland. especially with the reference to grainne