[12:39] <fta> micahg, tried a debug build yesterday, succeeded on king (64bit), OOMed on protactinium & actinium and succeeded on nannyberry (all doing 32bit)
[15:29] <BUGabundo> G'aft
[15:36] <fta> pfff, unity is no slow in oneiric
[15:36] <fta> in fact, everything feels slower
[15:37] <BUGabundo> humm
[15:37] <BUGabundo> I'm on gnome
[15:38] <BUGabundo> don't see any slow down
[15:38] <BUGabundo> just ugly GTK
[15:39] <fta> i boot in 3 min, far from the announced 10 sec a few cycles ago
[15:39] <fta> and it damn slow to change workspace or move windows
[15:40] <fta> i hate compiz
[15:40] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[15:40] <fta> rebooting to get a fresh bootchart
[15:40] <BUGabundo> I boot in under 30 sec
[15:40] <BUGabundo> on SSD
[15:49] <fta> hm, there's a fsck.ext4 in the bootchart, but it's not visible during the boot
[15:50] <fta> from sec 10 to 75
[15:51] <BUGabundo> yeah, I had to take btrfs-tools out
[15:51] <BUGabundo> or it would hang for 30-60 sec
[15:53] <fta> i'm still on ext4 here
[15:55] <fta> ok, lightdm: gone. it's still too raw
[15:59] <BUGabundo> ahah
[16:39] <fta> ok, much better now, i boot up to the desktop in 25 sec
[16:40] <fta> if only i could get rid of that old slow bios
[16:42] <Omega> coreboot
[16:43] <fta> hm, apport is a pig, liferea too
[16:43] <fta> zeitgeist i don't need
[16:43] <fta> there's still room for improvement :)
[16:43] <fta> and a SSD would help too
[16:43] <Omega> That's actually true, I don't need zeitgeist either
[16:44] <Omega> I know where I keep my stuff
[16:44] <Omega> fta: also install preload
[16:44] <fta> i see the 1st 15 secs used exclusively by ureadahead
[16:45] <fta> moblock is a pig too
[16:47] <BUGabundo> can't find moblock
[16:47] <fta> grr, if i drop zeitgeist, i loose half of unity
[16:48] <fta> and of rhythmbox
[16:48] <fta> wtf?
[16:49] <fta> BUGabundo, i take it from a ppa
[16:51] <fta> it's pretty old actually. i wonder if there's something better nowadays
[16:54] <fta> desktopcouch sucks too, gone
[16:57] <BUGabundo> I don't even have that
[17:03] <fta> BUGabundo, you don't? it was used for a while in gwibber, various applets, and some of apps since maverick
[17:03] <BUGabundo> yeah
[17:03] <BUGabundo> I know
[17:03] <BUGabundo> that's why I find it strange
[17:03] <fta> i used to drop it but it came back for some reason
[17:03] <BUGabundo> desktopcouch:
[17:03] <BUGabundo>   Installed: (none)
[17:03] <BUGabundo>  
[17:04] <fta> Omega, are you using coreboot?
[17:04] <fta> i don't want to brick my main desktop
[17:14] <Omega> fta: I'm not, but I want to
[21:56] <fta> micahg, yt?
[22:15] <micahg> fta: yeah, got your message earlier, thanks
[22:18] <micahg> fta: was there something else you needed?
[22:36] <fta> micahg, i read https://wiki.edubuntu.org/SecurityTeam/PublicationNotes#Chromium Browser, you might benefit from --temp-profile --no-first-run
[22:37] <micahg> what does --no-first-run do?
[22:38] <fta> it bypasses the search provider selector
[22:38] <micahg> ah ,what about default browser?
[22:38] <fta> hm, maybe that too, not sure
[22:39] <micahg> ah, seems to bypass that as well, however, I do like to test that the default browser setting works/sticks
[22:40] <micahg> I test in a clean VM in any case, so it's always a new profile actually (except on the profile import test)
[22:40] <micahg> but thank you
[22:43] <fta> i tried a debug build with various levels of logs for the html5 regression in oneiric, still no clue. there's no log associated to this :(
[22:43] <fta> and it's not something i can bisect.
[22:43] <micahg> so, hmm, well if it works that that library from natty, that seems weird
[22:44] <fta> it doesn't seem to be binutils
[22:44] <fta> maybe gcc after all
[22:44] <fta> both 4.5 & 4.6
[22:45] <micahg> well, all that's used is libvpx, libc, and libm, libvpx is still the natty binaries
[22:46] <micahg> has anyone upstream run into it with gcc-4.6?
[22:46] <fta> gcc 4.5 seems to have changed a lot since natty
[22:46] <fta> no idea
[22:47] <chrisccoulson> when you built it on natty, did you build it with the binutils backported from oneiric, or with the actual oneiric binutils binary?
[22:47] <fta> upstream mostly targets the LTS
[22:47] <micahg> hmm, well, there was an upstream point release, but those aren't supposed to break things (although I guess they do)
[22:48] <fta> chrisccoulson, i rebuilt the oneiric binutils on natty
[22:50] <fta> i guess i can try to do the same with gcc 4.5
[23:21] <fta> grr, deja-dup is just filling up my disks with full backups
[23:21] <fta> not what i need
[23:22] <micahg> fta: tell mterry if there's a bug
[23:22] <fta> already did. it's by design
[23:23] <micahg> k
[23:23] <fta> this thing is oriented toward desktops
[23:23] <fta> with little data
[23:23] <fta> definitely not my case
[23:24] <micahg> I would imagine not most of our cases
[23:24] <fta> and there's not enough control over it
[23:24] <fta> it starts at midnight, period
[23:25] <fta> problem is, it's too early, it's getting in my way, doing full backups for hours
[23:25] <fta> there's no way i can afford uploading that stuff over my flaky adsl link
[23:26] <micahg> right, you definitely want incrementals
[23:29] <fta> it did some the previous days, but today, it decided to do a "fresh backup to protect from backup corruption, This will take longer than normal"
[23:29] <micahg> heh, that sounds like it should be configurable
[23:29] <fta> now my disk is at 99% :P