[02:42] oh, someone else is editing the page too [03:08] pleia2: I'm doing some work on it. I agree about the EOLs and release. Also, do you remember if we were including the names in the posts from the plaet? [04:24] nhandler: ah, yeah it looks like we do want to include names [04:26] I'll be around more tomorrow, need to spend some quality time with the boyfriend this evening :) [09:06] morning! [12:35] hi there [14:00] hey popey! [14:00] lo [14:47] hey nigel === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [16:54] * pleia2 waves [16:54] anyone available to do some summary writing? [16:54] https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en [17:33] o/ [17:36] morning, nhandler :) [17:36] Hello pleia2 [17:37] Liraz as added his stats stuff, I think I'll go and delete all the old stuff [17:37] and I'll find that script in lp again to regenerate the security vuln list [17:38] pleia2: Great. I'm going to add a few summaries. Are you around tomorrow to help publish the final issue? [17:38] unfortunately this week itself is bad for me, I'm the only one in the office all week (my boss is out of town) [17:39] I wouldn't mind kicking UWN out the door today [17:39] akgraner: Sorry to add to the todo list, but did you ever get additional people added as moderators to post the UWN to the forum? Also, can you update the gdoc to the newer format (it should prompt you if you open it iirc) [17:40] pleia2: I'm gone at 20:30 UTC. So we should get working then ;) [17:41] * pleia2 gets to work! :) [17:42] looks like for now we'll still need to nudge our forum admin friends (I thought she send a request to get us added as mods on the UWNforum, but I guess it never went through) [17:42] oh nice, Lirax did the security stuff too [17:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue220?action=diff&rev2=198&rev1=197 [17:44] hi there! [17:45] and deleting "Upcoming Meetings and Events" content and just putting in the calendar link [17:45] hey nhandler [17:45] err NRWlion [17:46] pleia2: have a good evening [17:49] is there any update about the news thing? [17:51] NRWlion: we're working on the ubuntu weekly newsletter right now :) [17:51] pleia2: nice, any help needed? [17:52] sitting in front of the TV watching F1 [17:52] ;) [17:52] NRWlion: know of any ubuntu-related news from 3rd party sites? (ie: not from official ubuntu mailing lists or blogs) [17:52] we need some stories for the newsletter, don't have any yet :( [17:53] or from blogs by people who aren't ubuntu members [17:54] * pleia2 needs to get sec stats for 11.04 [17:54] pleia2: copy ... finding information now [17:54] NRWlion: great, thanks! [17:55] are we having a deadline? [17:55] should be from the past week, starting June 4th [17:55] well, we're shooting to publish by 20:00 UTC, not sure we'll make it though [17:55] so as many links as you can get in the next hour would be good [17:56] try looking but need to re-configure my system [17:56] once we have links we need 1-3 sentence summaries about them [17:56] no worries if you can't do it, just let us know [17:56] copy. 1 hr deadline [17:58] pleia2: http://www.ubuntunewswatch.com/ << something like this? [17:59] pleia2: http://www.ubuntunewswatch.com/the-wonders-of-intercasino-online-gambling/ << this sounds great [17:59] yeah, news from there is fine [17:59] or not [17:59] that sounds like spam :) [17:59] well i am just pushing the links [18:00] so you should pick out articles which are good and have to do with ubuntu [18:00] (that article has nothing to do with ubuntu) [18:01] dailyubuntu.com may have some better ones [18:07] o/ [18:07] * rww takes a look [18:08] thanks rww :) [18:09] you can dump the links here, or http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UWN-Ideas or at the bottom of https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en [18:09] are there summaries to be written? [18:09] nigelb_: in the google doc [18:11] PCWorld's been doing a 30 days of Ubuntu thing last week and this week, dunno if that works. It starts at http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229187/30_days_with_ubuntu_linux.html [18:11] that works :) [18:11] Braid's on Software Center now: http://braid-game.com/news/?p=703 [18:11] i dropped a few in, looks like the 'other' section is done [18:14] There's a nice post on DEX at http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2011/06/08/dex-finishes-first-batch-of-derivative-patches-for-debian/ [18:16] that would be in the planet section [18:16] but seems reasonable to add [18:16] pleia2: i have found a german article regarding Ubuntu being installed on Tablets [18:17] NRWlion: we need english articles :\ [18:18] i could try to translate it .d [18:19] not worth the effort, I'd stick to finding english articles [18:19] Dunno where or whether this fits, but KDE 4.6.4 got packaged for natty: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-release-464 [18:20] I am looking for unofficial stuff, honest ;P [18:20] hehe [18:21] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/category/news/ << here might be sth [18:22] NRWlion: we want to find individual articles :) so if you want to go through that and pick out some, please do [18:23] pleia2: i have not enough knowledge about the technical stuff :( [18:24] Tom's Hardware review of 11.04: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal,2943.html [18:25] good one [18:28] pleia2: hope this one could be good as well [18:29] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/gnome-3s-awesome-new-contacts-app-gets-shown-off-and-boy-is-it-pretty/ [18:32] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/unity-community-contributor-plans-for-11-10/ [18:32] There was an Ubuntu bug day on the 9th: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20110609 [18:33] nhandler: argh, I am bzr n00bing it up, can you help me when you have a moment? (trying to update the uwn branch but I'm not a member of ~uwn so I need to do a merge proposal) [18:36] pleia2: more i cant find atm ... sorry [18:36] NRWlion: no problem, thanks for looking [18:37] i hope i could contribute a little thing :/ [18:38] working on "Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings" now [18:41] pleia2: Is it a small change? [18:42] nhandler: yeah, just adding Natty and Maverick sec .py scripts [18:43] pleia2: Alright. If you want to create the merge proposal or send me a diff or something, I can push it. [18:43] nhandler: my problem is I can't figure out how to get it into lp :) [18:43] commit and..? [18:44] pleia2: bzr push lp:~lyz/uwn/natty-maverick-security or something like that [18:44] pleia2: You can then propose the branch for merging using the web interface [18:44] thanks [18:44] yeah, I found that :) [18:45] pleia2: Set me as the reviewer for the MP [18:45] these should actually be rewritten so we can ./Security natty june [18:45] or somesuch [18:46] the diff is just adding those two files http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lyz/uwn/natty-maverick-security/view/head:/security-and-updates/Maverick.py & Natty.py [18:49] Not finding much else. Everyone's been talking about OpenOffice.org instead this week ;) [18:50] :) [18:50] thanks rww [18:56] anyone else available to help with summaries on https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en ? [18:59] ok, on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue220 everything from "Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings" down is done except for Credits [19:00] so we need to get rolling on these summaries and making sure they are properly organized [19:02] nhandler: we're deleting everything in the Issue220 template under the headings "Launchpad News" and "The Planet" (except the Karmic EOL) - confirm? [19:04] pleia2: Yeah. Unless you want to keep Jono's posts (which are plans for the cycle and not really outdated) [19:04] Ara's is not horrible either [19:05] True. I guess we can leave them in. They are already written and don't hurt anything [19:05] * pleia2 nods [19:05] ok, on it [19:05] how do we feel about the whole blog post that dholbach pasted in the beginning of the issue? [19:06] keeping dholbach's "get more contributors" post in there too [19:07] pleia2: I don't think it should stay how it is. Maybe we should break it up into parts. For instance, we don't really tend to post interviews and stuff like that as much [19:10] * pleia2 nods [19:10] maybe move it down to the planet section and make it into a summary? [19:10] pleia2: That sounds better [19:10] ok, pulling it from the template and putting in in our google doc with the others [19:16] pleia2: Your branch should be merged [19:17] thanks! [19:18] perhaps "Ubuntu Community Week: It's New!" and "Open Call for Presenters: Ubuntu Community Week¨ on the Google Doc should be merged? [19:18] pleia2: No problem. Although I think I probably did someting wrong (as I think your merge commit message should have shown up) [19:18] rww: Yep [19:18] rww: yeah, and I'm thinking they should go into the LoCo News section [19:20] merged and moved :) [19:20] thanks :) [19:21] I've been adding summaries too, btw, if someone wants to check and make sure I'm not doing a terrible job at it ;) [19:22] also, are the ==headers== for planet posts supposed to have the poster's names in them? some do and some don't [19:23] they should [19:23] I forgot we were keeping names when I copied them over :) [19:29] g2g now - film night and basketball this night ;) [19:29] cu [19:29] Bye NRWlion. Thanks for your help [19:30] nhandler: didnt help much ... sorry 4 that. i am more into layout and stuff :( [19:30] nigelb: nice, your ramhost? [19:31] ok, we need to find some podcasts and figure out what we're putting up in the General Community News section [19:31] pleia2: yes :-) [19:31] (as well as continued summary writing, I added the launchpad links) [19:32] pleia2: I think the alpha 1 and possibly the EOLs should go under General rather than planet [19:32] sounds good [19:32] * nhandler goes to do some LP summaries [19:33] btw, shouldn't we remove the 6.06, 9.04, and 9.10 updates sections? [19:36] summaries apart from LP are done [19:36] nigelb: they are removed [19:36] where are you seeing them? [19:38] rww: you rock \o/ [19:38] pleia2: ah, I saw them earlier I guess :) [19:38] pleia2: I'm not the only one, more than half of them were done already :) [19:40] yeah, holstein was helping out earlier too [19:40] * nigelb wrote one summary :-) [19:40] which isn't much... [19:41] nigelb: can you do the LP ones? [19:41] Yeah :-) [19:41] link me to do the doc again, restarted irssi for ipv6 :-) [19:41] nhandler: I think we can put dholbach's dev update post in general community news too (and drop his name) [19:41] nigelb: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en [19:42] nigelb: welcome to irssipv6 land :) [19:43] rww: :) [19:43] I connect with it on oftc, but not freenode [19:43] * pleia2 was just doing it on oftc to be a dork, actually misses the reverse dns that linode doesn't do for ipv6 yet [19:43] I'm only doing IPv6 at all to be a dork, so... [19:43] I'm trying to connect to oftc, but something's messed up there for me [19:43] rww++ [19:43] and yeah, Linode needs to start doing IPv6 rDNS :( [19:44] pleia2: Yeah, in summary form, that should be fine [19:45] but 2001:470:1:12::29 has rdns :) (that's on a VPS on a server my boyfriend runs at he.net) [19:45] http://fullcirclemagazine.org/2011/05/29/full-circle-podcast-20-a-dutch-pirate-with-false-teeth/ [19:45] is from May 29th, but we are short on podcasts [19:45] only have http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/06/08/s04e08-caught-somewhere-in-time/ [19:58] nigelb: working on lp summaries? [20:08] I guess not [20:10] I'll finish it then [20:11] thanks, I'm finishing up podcast stuffs [20:11] releasing today before 20:30 was optimistic :) we'll spend the rest of the afternoon editing and doing whatever prep we can to release tomorrow [20:12] pleia2: That is fine. Like I said, I'll be out today but available tomorrow to do any release/publishing stuff we need. [20:13] * pleia2 nods [20:13] thanks nhandler [20:18] alrighty, I got distracted. What needs doing nwo? [20:19] pleia2: We have summaries (although the posts were a bit more technical) [20:21] ok great, just finished up podcasts [20:21] copying both lp and podcast sections over now [20:21] Great pleia2 ! [20:21] then we'll be ready for issue summaries and editing :D [20:22] pleia2: Do we want to include the announcement about the first round of Ubuntu Forum Members under forum news? [20:23] nhandler: oh, good one! [20:25] * nhandler added it to the gdoc [20:27] * pleia2 copies over [20:27] Thanks [20:29] ok, based on this we have the following left to do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies/HowToEdit [20:29] Credits (I'll do that now) [20:30] Welcome (actually step 7, should be moved down) [20:30] In this Issue [20:30] then we do editing (proof reading, link checking) [20:31] looks like the welcome has been sparse lately, I'll do that now too [20:31] someone want to tackle "In this Issue"? [20:32] * rww takes a look [20:33] rww: If you aren't up for it, I can [20:34] ok, Credits and Welcome are done [20:35] What's supposed to be in "In This Issue"? The bulletpoint list of contents? [20:35] pleia2: So do we want to try and publish it today? Or just prep it and send it out tomorrow? [20:35] rww: Yep [20:35] rww: Look at Issue 219 for an example [20:36] nhandler: think we can get it out before you have to leave? I didn't do the release steps last time either, not sure how much work goes into re-formatting for email and forums [20:36] okays, I'll do that. [20:36] (I have work in < 1.5 hours, btw) [20:38] pleia2: We can try. We just need to find people to proof [20:39] * pleia2 tries! [20:39] :) [20:40] pleia2, rww: So are you two writing up the last few sections now, or do you need me to write something? [20:40] I think "In this Issue" is the last of it [20:41] And I think rww was doing that [20:41] I can proofread if y'all want? [20:42] I'm about to edit it in [20:42] yeah, i got a little busy [20:42] Pendulum: That would be great. [20:42] i'll be in later though and see if theres anything left :) [20:42] I'm checking links (I can't easily spell check from here) [20:42] stlsaint: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue220 [20:42] for proof reading :) [20:42] and Pendulum too, thanks! [20:44] pleia2: how do we offer corrections? [20:44] stlsaint: I'd just make them in here (IRC) for now [20:44] (To avoid having multiple people editing) [20:45] nhandler: well its pretty small, maybe even not worth it now that i sit and stare at it but should there be a (,) after the word developer in: [20:45] It includes upcoming dates and milestones relevant to developers, a discussion with Paolo Sammicheli on his experiences as a developer, and tips about getting involved with Ubuntu. [20:45] Should I be changing LoCo to !LoCo to avoid it autolinking? [20:46] rww: that's what we used to do [20:46] stlsaint: that's the kind of editing we need :) thanks! [20:46] k, i'll do that now [20:46] pleia2: kk, gotcha [20:47] stlsaint, pleia2: Grammatically, I think that is actually fine. They have started including the comma before the last item in lists now [20:47] either way is correct [20:47] ah ok [20:47] (it's called an Oxford comma) [20:47] well, in general, "small" things like that are what we want editors for :) [20:47] Yup. I switched from no-comma to comma when I moved to the US :) [20:48] rww: you're not from the US? [20:48] Pendulum: I moved from England in 2002 [20:48] is the extra line after LoCo news and then after LoCo Team Reapprovals in the 'In This Issue' list intentional? [20:49] (or is it my browser? ;-) ) [20:49] There isn't an extra line in the source. I think Ubuntu Wiki's just weird. I noticed it on the previous issue too. [20:49] pleia2: same scenario here: They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. [20:49] it only happens for me in the new wikistyle [20:49] stlsaint: yeah, I think we'll stick with the oxford comma [20:49] ha, i was just reading the chat log and noticed [20:50] yeah, the new wiki formatting breaks lists a bit [20:50] for things like that instance I usually use it, for lists where each item is a single word I tend not to use it [20:50] (re: the Oxford comma) [20:50] * stlsaint is now tracking the oxford comma [20:51] in the thing about 6.06 it's not clear whether you're just talking about server edition or not [20:51] (in the summary, I mean) [20:52] Only broken links appear to be some CammelCases that we need to remove in a step or two [20:52] pleia2: yes. stepped out for midnight coffee :-) [20:53] nhandler: should there be a (s) in towards here: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a community site geared toward letting you add your ideas for Ubuntu. [20:53] I think so [20:53] That might need fixing in the template as well [20:54] oh,its down. [20:54] *done [20:54] nigelb: yeah, we finished summaries [20:54] although Google says it's a British vs. US thing again [20:54] toward/towards should be fine either way [20:54] nhandler: and here: You can submit your own idea, or vote for or against another idea. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ [20:54] Pendulum: ^^ [20:54] nhandler: do you want to edit the wiki for things the proof-readers find? [20:54] That comma can be removed stlsaint [20:54] is the (,) and the extra (or) suppose to be there? [20:55] oh nevermind [20:55] sorry [20:55] pleia2: I don't think we have any actual changes to make yet (besides this last comment) [20:55] But yeah, I can make the changes [20:55] pleia2: Sorry about that. I wwas falling asleep and went to catch coffee before the nearest place closed at 1 am. [20:55] should be: LoCo Team Re-Approvals Are Underway [20:56] (and in fact that bothers me so much that it's wrong that I'm going to poke Laura about fixing the title on her blog ;-) ) [20:56] * rww goes to get lunch [20:56] Pendulum: Planet Ubuntu-it gets new theme [20:56] Pendulum: well for 6.06 desktop went away 2 years ago, think it's required in the summary? [20:56] * nigelb is now sufficiently caffienated. [20:56] Also, try to stick to the `` syntax for fixing CammelCase links (I think that is what we agreed on for some reason or another a while ago) [20:57] Pendulum: can that be: Planet Ubuntu gets new theme [20:57] pleia2: yeah, because you might get new people who don't know [20:57] we tend to stick to what the blog titles actually are instead of editing them for the newsletter [20:57] Pendulum: sorr,y meant pleia2 on that one [20:57] stlsaint: No, its about the italian planet. [20:57] pleia2: part of it is that it talks generally about 6.06 until the last line where it mentions 6.06 server [20:58] nigelb: well should that be capital letters than? [20:58] What is this place and what am I doing here? /silly genie :p [20:58] in the LoCo re approvals summary, 'statuateses' should be 'statuses' [20:59] stlsaint: hrm, that's an attempt at title casing ubuntu-it, not sure which way is correct :-) [21:00] I'd leave it the way it is [21:00] stlsaint: this is where we usually leave it capitalised the same way as the blog post. and that's how the blog post has it [21:01] kk [21:02] drives my worked-in-publishing brain up the wall some of the stuff where it's poor gramatically, but I'll survive ;-) [21:03] hehe [21:03] although I really am going to poke Laura because the lack of hyphen in re-approval makes me want to hit my head against a wall [21:04] (I can cope with the capitalisation stuff because some of it is style-guide variable, but the hyphen isn't) [21:04] heh [21:04] is this spelled correctly: misceclaneous [21:05] nope :) [21:05] at the very least it has an extra c, but I'd need to look it up to confirm correct spelling [21:05] its missing a (l) [21:05] for sure [21:06] Studio A again (with *podcats*) [21:06] ^^ [21:06] thanks, we'll run spell-check on this too before publishing [21:06] in Getting started with launchpadlib summary there should be a comma after 'Launchpad' and before 'but' in the first line [21:06] I like potcats [21:06] how about podcats? [21:06] hahaha [21:06] oh dear [21:06] I am in san francisco [21:07] * pleia2 typos typos [21:07] :) [21:07] and "Also, dont miss the" [21:08] "features a top 5 web *mangement* tools" [21:08] ok, that's all I can find in a quick glance :-) [21:09] second sentance of the JS YUI testing summary should start: They feel like a safety net when making changes and are a [21:09] (take out comma and 2nd 'they') [21:10] nhandler: you got this? I need to run out and grab some lunch [21:10] For the Ubuntu UK Podcast, the bulleting looks odd at "In the news" [21:10] pleia2: Yep. Although I don't think I'll be able to publish before leaving :( [21:11] pleia2: I'll do what I can, and you can either go ahead without me, or I'll do it tomorrow (or possibly tonight if I get back early) [21:11] The bullets for lococast have a spacing between them. Is that intentional? [21:11] ok, planning on release tomorrow then [21:12] i cant find no other relevant changes folks [21:12] moved from grammar to mostly spelling though [21:13] pleia2: Sounds good. That is on-time anyway ;) [21:13] Alright. Let me save my changes so we can run it through a real spell-checker [21:13] in the Braid is now available section, should be Ryan C. Gordon [21:14] Pendulum: Does the two sentences starting with 'One' in summary to my post read odd? [21:15] It is saving now. Anv volunteers to run it through a spell-checker? [21:15] (Please refresh) [21:15] sure [21:16] Pendulum: i noticed that as well but thought it was "too" small a change [21:16] Thanks [21:16] nigelb: a little odd, but so minor that I didn't even notice it [21:17] Ignore it then :) [21:18] exactly :) [21:19] can I ask for the mention of OggCamp11 in the UUPC section to be a link to http://oggcamp.org/ ? [21:19] or is that a pain? [21:19] actually nvm there's a link to the show page thats enough [21:19] nhandler: when we refer to repository, do we use oneric or ocelot? Isn't it the former? [21:19] * popey hides again [21:19] *to a [21:19] pleia2: I can add in a link [21:19] tabfail :p [21:20] err popey ^ [21:20] nigelb: More like lag fail [21:20] well, owncloud would be nice to link too [21:20] heh [21:20] s/Reapprovals/Re-Approvals/ in "In This Issue". Spellchecker doesn't know what "showstopper" or "Pre-releases" are in Oneiric Alpha 1 section. "CDs" in the Ubuntu UK LoCo CDs section (I dunno whether that's right or not)... [21:20] nigelb: oneiric [21:20] pleia2: Have a link? [21:20] Ubuntu's multiverse repository (ocelot-only) --> needs fixing [21:20] nhandler: owncloud.org [21:21] * popey autocorrects nhandler's tabfail ;) [21:21] popey: I'm usually better, but I have a bit of lag which makes typing on irc a pain [21:21] "dialup" and "pre-installed" in the same section. s/launchpadplib/launchpadlib/ in the launchpadlib section... [21:21] and its DebConf, not Debconf. [21:22] nigelb: Yeah, it should be the adjective, not the animal [21:23] I should patch gedit's dictionary so that it recognizes my last name :p [21:23] I think "python programming how-to's" should be "Python programming howtos", but I'm not sure. [21:24] nigelb: add Krumbach while you're at it ;P [21:24] spellcheck done [21:24] heh [21:25] rww: I'm not sure if one is more right or not. Both are used (re: howto) [21:25] I did a spell check too, looks good. [21:27] I just saved my changes. We are done with step 26. I'll leave it like this until tomorrow. Feel free to make minor grammatical/spelling corrections to the wiki if you see them [21:27] And if you helped, make sure you are listed in the credits [21:28] Thanks again everyone for helping out. It will be nice being able to release tomorrow [21:28] \o/ [21:28] rww: at the least it shouldn't have the apostrophe [21:28] cool [21:28] (how-to vs. howto I think is interchangable) [21:28] pleia2: Should we write up a special intro saying that we are trying to bring back UWN and to expect some major changes over the next few weeks? [21:28] * nigelb hugs nhandler, Pendulum, pleia2, rww, and stlsaint :-) [21:29] nigelb: o/ [21:30] just remembered that i am subscribed to the newsletter but havent been getting it (i dont think) lemme check [21:33] stlsaint: We haven't been sending it out [21:43] ah kk [21:43] pleia2: still need someone to read? [21:44] oh gods, don't let IdleOne do it, you'll end up with "would of" all over the place [21:44] * rww runs [21:44] hehe [21:44] fine :( [21:44] but yes, "Feel free to make minor grammatical/spelling corrections to the wiki if you see them" [21:45] rww: If you were drinking tea right now, you would not be speaking. [21:45] :) [21:45] I'm going to add IYWDTRNYWNBS to !stfu one of these days [21:45] lol [21:45] anyways, work time. I'll do the same when I get home [21:46] can someone please link me exactly what I am supposed to be reading? [21:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue220 [21:48] thank you good sir [21:48] err gentleperson [21:48] hehe [22:28] im back for a bit if theres more work to do :) [22:29] we're just doing reviewing now