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ali1234!info ktechlab02:12
lubotu3Package ktechlab does not exist in natty02:12
ali1234!info ktechlab maverick02:12
lubotu3ktechlab (source: ktechlab): circuit simulator for microcontrollers and electronics. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-9ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 1827 kB, installed size 5812 kB02:12
ali1234hmm what happened?02:12
Azelphurthat sounds like a fun tool02:12
ali1234yeah02:13
ali1234well, i need something that can support defining my own signals and parts02:13
ali1234preferably in an easy to use language like python02:14
ali1234i wonder why it was removed02:14
Azelphurindeed02:20
ali1234deleted because it depends on kde302:37
ali1234Azelphur: turns out you can install the maverick deb and it works fine03:02
Azelphur:D03:02
ali1234seems like a nice program03:02
ali1234just need to figure out how to add custom parts and signal sources03:03
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MooDoomorning all08:54
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* nigelb waves to MooDoo 09:27
MooDoohello nigelb :)09:28
MooDoonigelb: how are you on this fine sunday09:29
nigelbMooDoo: Hello. Pretty good. Contemplating a fine siesta ;)09:30
MooDoonigelb: well considering i'm at work....pah! :p09:30
nigelbheh09:30
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daubersMorning10:14
MooDoomorning daubers10:14
MartijnVdSmorning everyone10:14
AlanBellmorning10:22
AlanBellhow do you stop playing angry birds?10:22
MooDooAlanBell: with great difficulty, or install rio where there are only a certain amont of levels then youhave to stop :D10:23
MartijnVdSHm10:36
MartijnVdSOneiric is more broken than ever. As it's unity that seems to have gone, I blame gord :)10:36
TimSCWHO riv10:48
TimSCWHO oops that was completely wrong!10:49
MooDoo:)10:52
brobostigongood morning everyone,11:09
MooDoobrobostigon: morning11:10
brobostigonMooDoo: good morning, :)11:10
MartijnVdS\o12:03
brobostigono/12:06
MooDoo\o/ /o\ C A :)12:08
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mattiHm.12:21
mattiFreenode is unhappy today.12:21
MooDoomatti: give it a hug12:21
* matti huggles Freenode12:24
mattiOh dear.12:24
mattiI've got a notification from Update Manager that my version is no longer supported ;]12:24
mattiHeh12:24
matti;)12:24
jacobwuh?12:27
jacobwlol @ YMCA12:27
penguin42hmm that really shouldn't happen - a metacity running as gdm screwing up my session12:49
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gordmy weather indicator says the current weather is three wavy lines again... its been like a year, can't figure out what that is12:58
jacobwhigh winds?13:00
penguin42gord: Which theme do you use?13:04
gordthe default13:04
gordjacobw, nope13:05
penguin42gord: That's fog13:06
penguin42gord: See /usr/share/icons/Humanity/status/16/weather-fog.svg13:07
gordthanks for ruining a mystery :(13:07
penguin42haha13:07
MartijnVdSgord: Bacon. It means the weather is bacon.13:12
gordthats more like it13:14
suprengrgord, I think it means it's *windy* or overcast bacon13:18
suprengr[overcast - not overcooked]13:18
MartijnVdSsuprengr: A bit like "Cloudy with a chance of meatballs", but less spherical ;)13:23
famousmortimerHurrah for getting ubuntu back! How I've missed ya13:25
scoundrel50ahi, where is the Google Chrome installation directory found?13:26
famousmortimerHave you tried Chromium?13:27
scoundrel50aI wanted to know where the Chrome files were, I have Chrome installed, and Chromium, are they the same thing then?13:27
suprengrMartijnVdS, what? only a chance of meatballs - I've just looked outside - there's meatballs out there ;)13:28
scoundrel50aand where would chromium files be?13:28
gordsuprengr, look in ~/.config13:28
suprengrgord, pourquoi?13:29
gordsuprengr, open up nautilus, type Ctrl+l - then ~/.config13:29
scoundrel50aanybody?13:31
gordsuprengr, sorry you got in the way of my alt-tab13:31
gordscoundrel50a, ^^13:31
suprengrgord, you had me confused [not hard to do that] but I'll let you off13:33
scoundrel50agord: dont know what ^^ means are talking about what you told suprengr?13:33
gordscoundrel50a, yes13:34
gord^^ are arrows indicating you look up13:34
jacobw`whereis chrome; whereis chromium`13:34
scoundrel50aok, thankyou, will go take a look. Sorry, had no idea about ^^ being arrows, thank you.13:34
scoundrel50aah, thank you, that is where it is, been trying to find that all morning.......13:35
scoundrel50ahow do you keep the search box there by default in nautilus?13:58
scoundrel50ainstead of having to use ctrl+l to get it to open13:58
gordi think there is an option hidden around somewhere14:00
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ryanhow do i force remove fglrx-amdcccle?14:33
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* daubers turns on some heating15:03
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penguin42sheesh the stuff printed on stickers on amazon packages - it has my phone number15:14
dutchiedaubers: it's june!15:18
penguin42dutchie: Hardly flaming15:26
jacobw!ping15:49
lubotu3Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to respond to factoid requests. Call that job satisfaction? Because I don't.15:49
jacobwits raining here15:49
jacobwlubotu is insubordinate :p15:50
suprengrjacobw, gives me a headache just thinking *down* to it's level15:52
jacobwindeed15:53
AlanBellafternoon16:41
Pendulumhiya AlanBell16:41
* AlanBell has completed epic DIY light fitting task16:41
AlanBellhi Pendulum, whats up with you today?16:43
dogmatic69_o/16:43
PendulumAlanBell: duvet day mostly. the universe decided I should get a cold on top of everything else16:46
gordi also got a cold :( but mine is more worse16:56
* Pendulum hugs16:56
Pendulumgord ^^16:57
Pendulumgord: I'll take your cold off you if you'll take my swollen hip and messed up neck :P16:57
Pendulumactually, would probably do it for either of those16:57
gordi'll quit complaining about my slightly sore throat now ;) at least before czajkowski calls diddums on me16:58
suprengrAlanBell, you sure it's not hay fever? I used to make that mistake until it startewd happening at the same-ish time each year.  This year is a baddy & catching many peeps unawares.16:58
suprengr*started16:59
* czajkowski hugs gord 16:59
* AlanBell is in fine fettle16:59
czajkowskisteak has been purchased16:59
czajkowskishop does not sell pepper sauce however16:59
czajkowski:(16:59
MooDooooo steak16:59
suprengrwhoops... that should have been for Pendulum17:00
czajkowskisteak onions, beans and potato grattin for din dins17:00
* AlanBell loves gratin dauphinois17:01
Pendulumsuprengr: yeah. everyone else around here (I'm in the US) has had hay fever for the past 6 weeks and are starting to get better. I woke up yesterday with a sore throat and today with a worse sore throat and a cough17:01
MooDooczajkowski: where you live i'm coming round for steak17:01
livingdaylighthi, can I ask; does anyone know. Is it general known wisdom that laptop with dedicated graphics card is better than onboard graphics card?17:01
* suprengr passes czajkowski a virtual empty plate [& hopes for nom noms]17:01
AlanBelllivingdaylight: switchable graphics cards are known to be a pita17:02
livingdaylightI'm looking at hp dm4 laptop and choosing between 1 which has 512 card vs the integrated graphics model17:02
czajkowskiwell kinda last nice dinner for a wee bit17:02
czajkowskitrying to be good come monday and bf goes into hospital on thursday17:02
AlanBellis it just a dedicated card or can you switch between internal and external?17:02
livingdaylightAlanBell, switchable are the dedicated ones?17:03
livingdaylightAlanBell, it has 512 dedicated but can take more from the botherboard up to 2gb I think... does that make it the switchable one?17:03
Pendulumgord: s'ok. I'm willing to bet you're more miserable than I am because I probably have more spacey meds than you ;-)17:04
czajkowskigord: you sprinting in london or dublin17:04
livingdaylightThe ATi HD graphics card has 512Mb of dedicated memory but can also use system memory when required for a total of 2202Mb. It also supports "switchable graphics"; when you're using the system on the battery, it can automatically switch to the integrated Intel graphics to save power. A very neat feature.17:04
AlanBellthat will be a switchable one then17:05
livingdaylighthttp://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy-HP-DM4-1060-Laptop/65126517:05
livingdaylightok, that's a shame coz there is a nice buy now deal for £400 on ebay17:05
AlanBellI suspect both will work fine, but switching between them on the fly might be problematic17:06
livingdaylightI thought dedicated would be preferable to the hd onboard  ones17:06
AlanBellor it might just work17:06
livingdaylightk, thanks for the input. I just wondered before committing and making a mistake17:06
AlanBellthere is nothing much wrong with intel integrated graphics tbh17:07
livingdaylightsure17:07
AlanBelldoes all the compiz bling on the laptop screen plus 2048x1152 HDMI monitor17:07
livingdaylighti just thought general consensus was dedicated graphics would be preferable; is that not the case any longer?17:08
AlanBelland I doubt you would be bitcoin mining on your laptop17:08
livingdaylightbitcoin lol17:08
livingdaylightI heard about bitcoin just the other day for the first time17:08
livingdaylightno, I would not be bitcoin mining with my laptop or any other machine as it happens, unless I thought it would buckle the world-wide monetary system, muahaahaha17:09
livingdaylightin terms of heat would dedicated graphics card increase the heat, or other way around?17:11
AlanBellyeah17:13
AlanBellit would run hotter, use more power17:13
AlanBellwhich is why you can switch to the intel one17:13
dogmatic69_AlanBell: sup17:14
TheOpenSourcererInteresting factoid on QI last night... from 1ton of rock (in a gold area) you get 50gms of gold.17:17
TheOpenSourcererFrom 1ton of old mobile phone you get 150gms17:17
DJonesWhy did I think that was going to become a minecraft comment17:20
TheOpenSourcererOff to make a nice Risotto with onions, garlic and chard from the garden...17:21
czajkowskinice17:21
TheOpenSourcererYes czajkowski, it will be. I am making it ;-)17:21
brobostigonyummy,17:22
* suprengr counters with liver coated in flour & cayenne pepper with broccoli, red pepper & something else.17:28
* suprengr gets ready for F1... bfn & cheers17:38
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czajkowskianyone here got empathy working with google voice/video ??17:57
* daubers has just got an email from the police18:06
daubersApparently the guy who threw stuff at me the other month has been officially cautioned18:06
Azelphur\o/18:06
* MartijnVdS is still watching F119:49
* brobostigon is also.19:49
MartijnVdSI think Ted Kravitz has some water in his equipment.. with all the noises19:50
brobostigonyes.19:51
brobostigonmaybe.19:51
geek1dlol http://aimlinux.com/blog/?tag=rofl20:03
davidd_gpredict20:24
davidd_exit20:24
MartijnVdSheh https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23F1WaterNames20:33
omenrosehi!! I just want to ask about conky, my conky disappear when I click on my desktop, is there any conf. to make it stay alert in my desktop?20:35
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daubersI'd forgotten how easy Visual Studio stuff makes making GUI apps20:42
gordtime to jump on xorg-edgers i guess, terrifying20:44
Core_UKdaubers: repent20:47
Core_UKdaubers: freedom hater!20:47
gordvisual studio really is very good20:48
* Core_UK is ignorant to freedom haters!20:48
gordsome people refuse to code without it, thats kinda sad, like lost knowledge, but visual studio is still very well made20:48
Core_UKits okay but I dont use any of the languages20:49
Core_UKI tried it with a python add on but didnt really give it a lot of thought20:49
MartijnVdSI'm too used to vim + perl/python20:52
MartijnVdSI bet VS is good for "MS languages" and C++ though20:53
MartijnVdSonce you get used to it20:53
gordholy crap the new X is fast20:53
gordi mean, with sandybridge. the new sna architecture is about 4-5 times faster it feels20:53
MartijnVdSgord: is that the SandyBridge-Newaccel?20:53
* brobostigon is happy ith nano for c++.20:53
gordits *really* fast20:53
MartijnVdSgord: you have working unity then?20:53
gordyup20:53
MartijnVdSgord: I get a black screen on oneiric :(20:53
gordall the corruption is gone too, happy happy me20:53
gordMartijnVdS, thats your fault for being on oneiric :P crazy person20:54
MartijnVdSgord: thanks :)20:54
gordthis does pose one problem, i was going to make the dash faster but now i don't have a machine thats slow enough :(20:55
MartijnVdSsleep(10);20:55
gord.... no20:55
jacobwthe new X ?20:57
MartijnVdSjacobw: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTUyOQ20:58
gordjacobw, new xorg drivers for intel21:01
gordusing xorg-edgers21:01
doubi'evening all. Can anyone advise me on getting Postgres set up? Documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL seems lacking21:01
jacobwawesome, i've an intel chipset..21:04
jacobwbut i guess this is just for sandybridge?21:04
* jacobw follows MartijnVdS's link21:05
MartijnVdSno21:05
MartijnVdSeverything since i915 I think21:05
MartijnVdSthough sb has the most improvement21:06
jacobwthis is cool, i installed ubuntu on a laptop with i915, having graphical problems with it so i may try these new drivers21:07
jacobwnot that going from stable to prerelease is a good way to solve problems, but sometimes its cool..21:07
* daubers considers tea or beer21:08
jacobwtea21:08
jacobwits sunday21:08
brobostigonbeer. it still early.21:08
MartijnVdSbeer, to drink away your Windows pain21:08
brobostigon:)21:08
jacobw(i think i might be a polygon with four equal side and angels)21:09
gordjacobw, it really won't affect non sandybridge devices :(21:11
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* TheOpenSourcerer has been a good boy today. Done quite a bit of work and now thinks he deserves a beer.21:12
brobostigon:)21:13
* brobostigon has a gin and tonic21:13
TheOpenSourcererOooh - Now there's a cracking Idea brobostigon21:14
brobostigonhehe.21:14
TheOpenSourcererI have Tanqueray, Schweppes and lemons. No ice mind...21:14
brobostigonif your tonic is cool, you hould be ok.21:15
diploGood evening all21:15
brobostigonevening diplo21:15
TheOpenSourcererYeah - see you all tomorrow. Cheers21:16
brobostigongood night TheOpenSourcerer o/21:16
dauberskettle boiled21:17
diploPlease no spoilers on F1, playing catch up atm21:17
diplo:)21:17
brobostigonok, :)21:18
* jacobw wonders if dutchie is present21:22
diploHmm caught up now, seems BBC1 HD wasn't covering, moved to bbc2 now :(21:25
diplomissed the restart21:25
popeydiplo: bbc hd too21:26
diplo:(21:27
* diplo moves21:28
diploForget about that channel21:28
diploWish they would group all hd channels closer21:28
gordO_O lost all my contacts in evolution21:32
gordwhy wasn't i using u1 contact sync :( i kept meaning to set it up...21:32
popeyEvening all btw21:32
zleaphi popey21:33
diploI really wish Dexter would get multi contact sync working21:34
diploLike the look of the new Gnome contact manager as well21:34
Riceyevening all :)21:34
gordjust came up with an awesome idea to make the dash faster on O :)21:36
diploevening Ricey21:36
Riceyall well i hope? anyhting new happenin' ?21:37
diploJust joined myself :)21:38
Riceycool, tell you what though - everytime i have to fix a computer for someone i hate windows more and more!21:39
diploheh21:39
Riceyquite a bad malware infection this time on a netbook21:39
Riceysheesh!21:40
diplo:P21:41
jacobwwindows on a netbook :(21:44
Riceyoh tell me about it - xp mind you but still :(21:44
Ricey7 infections so far and counting, that's just off malwarebytes!21:45
RaycisCharlesRicey, I'd probably blame you for using a 10-year-old OS.21:50
Riceylol if i'd installed it then i would blame me too!21:51
Riceybut this time it's acer's fault for putting it on ;)21:51
RaycisCharlesMore like, your fault for not installing Mint on that netbook.21:51
RaycisCharlesNobody would expect a 10-year-old Linux distro to work well on modern hardware, even if it was fully patched.21:52
Riceyi would surely love to if i had my own way ;)  but .... hang on i might just do it anyway ;)21:52
RaycisCharlesSo I don't understand why people buy hardware with an ancient version of Windows on it, and expect it to not suck.21:52
Riceypreaching to the converted here!21:52
RaycisCharlesI'm glad I could change your mind.21:53
RaycisCharlesJust a shame there's no Mint channel on freenode.21:53
Riceyyou didn't have to it was already changed ;)21:53
Riceyhas been for years!21:53
* jacobw is suprised there is no #mint21:53
Riceythey have their own irc server don't they?21:55
RiceyOfficial support channel is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:56
brobostigonmock the week, has been beated by F1, :(21:59
brobostigonbeaten*21:59
Ricey:)22:00
brobostigon:(22:00
Riceyindeed, how are you fella anyway - all ok?22:00
brobostigonRicey: not bad, could be better. and you?22:01
Riceygood, same here, glad to be at home for a whle at least22:01
brobostigon:)22:01
Riceybeen away far too much recently22:01
brobostigonnot good.22:02
Riceytoo true - 300 days away in 2 years isn't fun!22:02
jacobwlong time :o22:03
brobostigonouch,22:03
Riceyaye, and another 3 months to come as of august22:03
brobostigonthat would be a nightmare for me.22:03
Riceymy missus isn't best ahppy at the min22:04
brobostigoni can imagine.22:04
Riceyat least for the 3 months it's in the states and will have a decent broadband connection22:04
Ricey;)22:04
brobostigon:)22:04
brobostigonlte.*22:04
dutchiejacobw: i am now22:04
brobostigon4g*22:04
* dutchie reads back22:04
Riceyno, not there yet ;) it's in the hotel22:05
Riceyi don't think there is 4g in nebraska yet ;) too backwards!22:05
brobostigonRicey: ohwell.22:05
Riceyi might check again though.....22:05
dutchiejacobw: not particularly clear what you wanted...22:05
Ricey4g LTE they call it right?22:05
brobostigonRicey: either of those two.22:06
Riceyk22:06
jacobwi was wondering if being a maths student you had any opinions of how long it'd take to learn the concepts behind a level maths22:08
jacobwthe pure stuff, not s1/2 or m1/222:08
dutchiejacobw: i'd say not long, but then i am an oxford mathematician looking back at the end of my first year...22:09
jacobwheh22:09
jacobwcool22:10
dutchiei can't particularly remember what's on c1-4 nowadays anyway22:10
jacobwtrigonometry, identities, differential calculus22:11
dutchie"identities"?22:11
jacobwminus the comma22:12
dutchiedifferentiation is pretty easy22:12
dutchietrig identities are simple once you've got them learned22:12
dutchietrig itself is straightforward22:12
dutchieisn't there some integration in there too?22:12
jacobwyes22:13
jacobwi don't entirely know what i'm talking about to be honest22:13
jacobwi want to try maths with the open university so i'm trying to judge where to jump in22:14
jacobwi've studied some AS level maths before, so i guess i just need to refamiliarise with c1/2 topics22:15
dutchieno harm in buying a textbook and looking through it22:16
jacobwyeah, i think that's what i'm going to do22:17
jacobwthanks for putting up with my silly questions :)22:19
daubers. /o\ trig ID's22:43
daubersThe main reason I loved Mathematica as a student was because I loathed and detested remembering trig id's :) Always shifted trig into e notation when I could22:44
daubersHmmm... conundrum22:45
daubersWhat version controlling system works best on windows22:46
diplodaubers, i use svn with tortoise22:51
diploworks well for me22:51
daubersOoooh bzr integrates really nicely22:52
daubersAlso means I don't have to learn any new command sets \o/ Hooray for lazyness22:53
diploAbout to start trying bzr at work in next week or two22:53
daubersdiplo: We use bzr at work :)22:53
daubersRight! Early morning tomorrow22:54
daubersNight all22:54
diplonn22:54
brobostigongood night, sleep well.22:54
roachyevening folks22:55
Riceywell the netbook is a right off23:02
Riceycompletely hosed23:02
Riceyhope they'll let me put ubuntu on!23:04
Azelphuris there any way to do find and replace in a bunch of files?23:12
Azelphurlike replace all, but on a bunch of files23:12
Riceyis this for the filenames or the files themselves?23:14
Azelphurfiles themselves23:16
Riceyso you need to find a certain set of files then do what exactly?23:16
AzelphurI want to replace the content of a bunch of text files23:16
Azelphurfor example if there's 70 text files all in one folder, and they all contain a URL which is no longer valid23:17
AzelphurI want to replace the URL with a valid one :)23:17
Riceyit can certainly be done, probably with a small shell script script23:19
Riceyonly one script there23:19
Riceyit depends on whether you need the URL verification to be automatic23:19
Azelphuryea, I think I got it with sed23:19
Riceyi was about to suggest the very same23:19
Azelphur:)23:19
Riceyit's a handy tool23:20
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Riceynight all23:42

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