[02:12] !info ktechlab [02:12] Package ktechlab does not exist in natty [02:12] !info ktechlab maverick [02:12] ktechlab (source: ktechlab): circuit simulator for microcontrollers and electronics. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-9ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 1827 kB, installed size 5812 kB [02:12] hmm what happened? [02:12] that sounds like a fun tool [02:13] yeah [02:13] well, i need something that can support defining my own signals and parts [02:14] preferably in an easy to use language like python [02:14] i wonder why it was removed [02:20] indeed [02:37] deleted because it depends on kde3 [03:02] Azelphur: turns out you can install the maverick deb and it works fine [03:02] :D [03:02] seems like a nice program [03:03] just need to figure out how to add custom parts and signal sources === ryan is now known as Guest96223 === ujjain is now known as ujjain|afk === denny- is now known as Guest84466 === issyl0_ is now known as Guest15407 === Martinp24 is now known as Guest97579 [08:54] morning all === arsen is now known as Guest79273 [09:27] * nigelb waves to MooDoo [09:28] hello nigelb :) [09:29] nigelb: how are you on this fine sunday [09:30] MooDoo: Hello. Pretty good. Contemplating a fine siesta ;) [09:30] nigelb: well considering i'm at work....pah! :p [09:30] heh === hcfd_ is now known as hcfd === _Dave2_ is now known as Dave2 [10:14] Morning [10:14] morning daubers [10:14] morning everyone [10:22] morning [10:22] how do you stop playing angry birds? [10:23] AlanBell: with great difficulty, or install rio where there are only a certain amont of levels then youhave to stop :D [10:36] Hm [10:36] Oneiric is more broken than ever. As it's unity that seems to have gone, I blame gord :) [10:48] WHO riv [10:49] WHO oops that was completely wrong! [10:52] :) [11:09] good morning everyone, [11:10] brobostigon: morning [11:10] MooDoo: good morning, :) [12:03] \o [12:06] o/ [12:08] \o/ /o\ C A :) === matti_ is now known as matti [12:21] Hm. [12:21] Freenode is unhappy today. [12:21] matti: give it a hug [12:24] * matti huggles Freenode [12:24] Oh dear. [12:24] I've got a notification from Update Manager that my version is no longer supported ;] [12:24] Heh [12:24] ;) [12:27] uh? [12:27] lol @ YMCA [12:49] hmm that really shouldn't happen - a metacity running as gdm screwing up my session === ujjain|afk is now known as ujjain [12:58] my weather indicator says the current weather is three wavy lines again... its been like a year, can't figure out what that is [13:00] high winds? [13:04] gord: Which theme do you use? [13:04] the default [13:05] jacobw, nope [13:06] gord: That's fog [13:07] gord: See /usr/share/icons/Humanity/status/16/weather-fog.svg [13:07] thanks for ruining a mystery :( [13:07] haha [13:12] gord: Bacon. It means the weather is bacon. [13:14] thats more like it [13:18] gord, I think it means it's *windy* or overcast bacon [13:18] [overcast - not overcooked] [13:23] suprengr: A bit like "Cloudy with a chance of meatballs", but less spherical ;) [13:25] Hurrah for getting ubuntu back! How I've missed ya [13:26] hi, where is the Google Chrome installation directory found? [13:27] Have you tried Chromium? [13:27] I wanted to know where the Chrome files were, I have Chrome installed, and Chromium, are they the same thing then? [13:28] MartijnVdS, what? only a chance of meatballs - I've just looked outside - there's meatballs out there ;) [13:28] and where would chromium files be? [13:28] suprengr, look in ~/.config [13:29] gord, pourquoi? [13:29] suprengr, open up nautilus, type Ctrl+l - then ~/.config [13:31] anybody? [13:31] suprengr, sorry you got in the way of my alt-tab [13:31] scoundrel50a, ^^ [13:33] gord, you had me confused [not hard to do that] but I'll let you off [13:33] gord: dont know what ^^ means are talking about what you told suprengr? [13:34] scoundrel50a, yes [13:34] ^^ are arrows indicating you look up [13:34] `whereis chrome; whereis chromium` [13:34] ok, thankyou, will go take a look. Sorry, had no idea about ^^ being arrows, thank you. [13:35] ah, thank you, that is where it is, been trying to find that all morning....... [13:58] how do you keep the search box there by default in nautilus? [13:58] instead of having to use ctrl+l to get it to open [14:00] i think there is an option hidden around somewhere === issyl0 is now known as Guest31887 === ubuntuuk-planet5 is now known as ubuntuuk-planet === matti_ is now known as matti === LjL-Temp` is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest13342 [14:33] how do i force remove fglrx-amdcccle? === ryan is now known as Guest97941 === Guest97941 is now known as Ryann [15:03] * daubers turns on some heating === Guest13342 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest72918 === Guest72918 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest73344 [15:14] sheesh the stuff printed on stickers on amazon packages - it has my phone number [15:18] daubers: it's june! [15:26] dutchie: Hardly flaming [15:49] !ping [15:49] Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to respond to factoid requests. Call that job satisfaction? Because I don't. [15:49] its raining here [15:50] lubotu is insubordinate :p [15:52] jacobw, gives me a headache just thinking *down* to it's level [15:53] indeed [16:41] afternoon [16:41] hiya AlanBell [16:41] * AlanBell has completed epic DIY light fitting task [16:43] hi Pendulum, whats up with you today? [16:43] o/ [16:46] AlanBell: duvet day mostly. the universe decided I should get a cold on top of everything else [16:56] i also got a cold :( but mine is more worse [16:56] * Pendulum hugs [16:57] gord ^^ [16:57] gord: I'll take your cold off you if you'll take my swollen hip and messed up neck :P [16:57] actually, would probably do it for either of those [16:58] i'll quit complaining about my slightly sore throat now ;) at least before czajkowski calls diddums on me [16:58] AlanBell, you sure it's not hay fever? I used to make that mistake until it startewd happening at the same-ish time each year. This year is a baddy & catching many peeps unawares. [16:59] *started [16:59] * czajkowski hugs gord [16:59] * AlanBell is in fine fettle [16:59] steak has been purchased [16:59] shop does not sell pepper sauce however [16:59] :( [16:59] ooo steak [17:00] whoops... that should have been for Pendulum [17:00] steak onions, beans and potato grattin for din dins [17:01] * AlanBell loves gratin dauphinois [17:01] suprengr: yeah. everyone else around here (I'm in the US) has had hay fever for the past 6 weeks and are starting to get better. I woke up yesterday with a sore throat and today with a worse sore throat and a cough [17:01] czajkowski: where you live i'm coming round for steak [17:01] hi, can I ask; does anyone know. Is it general known wisdom that laptop with dedicated graphics card is better than onboard graphics card? [17:01] * suprengr passes czajkowski a virtual empty plate [& hopes for nom noms] [17:02] livingdaylight: switchable graphics cards are known to be a pita [17:02] I'm looking at hp dm4 laptop and choosing between 1 which has 512 card vs the integrated graphics model [17:02] well kinda last nice dinner for a wee bit [17:02] trying to be good come monday and bf goes into hospital on thursday [17:02] is it just a dedicated card or can you switch between internal and external? [17:03] AlanBell, switchable are the dedicated ones? [17:03] AlanBell, it has 512 dedicated but can take more from the botherboard up to 2gb I think... does that make it the switchable one? [17:04] gord: s'ok. I'm willing to bet you're more miserable than I am because I probably have more spacey meds than you ;-) [17:04] gord: you sprinting in london or dublin [17:04] The ATi HD graphics card has 512Mb of dedicated memory but can also use system memory when required for a total of 2202Mb. It also supports "switchable graphics"; when you're using the system on the battery, it can automatically switch to the integrated Intel graphics to save power. A very neat feature. [17:05] that will be a switchable one then [17:05] http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy-HP-DM4-1060-Laptop/651265 [17:05] ok, that's a shame coz there is a nice buy now deal for £400 on ebay [17:06] I suspect both will work fine, but switching between them on the fly might be problematic [17:06] I thought dedicated would be preferable to the hd onboard ones [17:06] or it might just work [17:06] k, thanks for the input. I just wondered before committing and making a mistake [17:07] there is nothing much wrong with intel integrated graphics tbh [17:07] sure [17:07] does all the compiz bling on the laptop screen plus 2048x1152 HDMI monitor [17:08] i just thought general consensus was dedicated graphics would be preferable; is that not the case any longer? [17:08] and I doubt you would be bitcoin mining on your laptop [17:08] bitcoin lol [17:08] I heard about bitcoin just the other day for the first time [17:09] no, I would not be bitcoin mining with my laptop or any other machine as it happens, unless I thought it would buckle the world-wide monetary system, muahaahaha [17:11] in terms of heat would dedicated graphics card increase the heat, or other way around? [17:13] yeah [17:13] it would run hotter, use more power [17:13] which is why you can switch to the intel one [17:14] AlanBell: sup [17:17] Interesting factoid on QI last night... from 1ton of rock (in a gold area) you get 50gms of gold. [17:17] From 1ton of old mobile phone you get 150gms [17:20] Why did I think that was going to become a minecraft comment [17:21] Off to make a nice Risotto with onions, garlic and chard from the garden... [17:21] nice [17:21] Yes czajkowski, it will be. I am making it ;-) [17:22] yummy, [17:28] * suprengr counters with liver coated in flour & cayenne pepper with broccoli, red pepper & something else. [17:38] * suprengr gets ready for F1... bfn & cheers === ChrisB is now known as Guest41679 [17:57] anyone here got empathy working with google voice/video ?? [18:06] * daubers has just got an email from the police [18:06] Apparently the guy who threw stuff at me the other month has been officially cautioned [18:06] \o/ [19:49] * MartijnVdS is still watching F1 [19:49] * brobostigon is also. [19:50] I think Ted Kravitz has some water in his equipment.. with all the noises [19:51] yes. [19:51] maybe. [20:03] lol http://aimlinux.com/blog/?tag=rofl [20:24] gpredict [20:24] exit [20:33] heh https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23F1WaterNames [20:35] hi!! I just want to ask about conky, my conky disappear when I click on my desktop, is there any conf. to make it stay alert in my desktop? === ujjain is now known as ujjain|afk [20:42] I'd forgotten how easy Visual Studio stuff makes making GUI apps [20:44] time to jump on xorg-edgers i guess, terrifying [20:47] daubers: repent [20:47] daubers: freedom hater! [20:48] visual studio really is very good [20:48] * Core_UK is ignorant to freedom haters! [20:48] some people refuse to code without it, thats kinda sad, like lost knowledge, but visual studio is still very well made [20:49] its okay but I dont use any of the languages [20:49] I tried it with a python add on but didnt really give it a lot of thought [20:52] I'm too used to vim + perl/python [20:53] I bet VS is good for "MS languages" and C++ though [20:53] once you get used to it [20:53] holy crap the new X is fast [20:53] i mean, with sandybridge. the new sna architecture is about 4-5 times faster it feels [20:53] gord: is that the SandyBridge-Newaccel? [20:53] * brobostigon is happy ith nano for c++. [20:53] its *really* fast [20:53] gord: you have working unity then? [20:53] yup [20:53] gord: I get a black screen on oneiric :( [20:53] all the corruption is gone too, happy happy me [20:54] MartijnVdS, thats your fault for being on oneiric :P crazy person [20:54] gord: thanks :) [20:55] this does pose one problem, i was going to make the dash faster but now i don't have a machine thats slow enough :( [20:55] sleep(10); [20:55] .... no [20:57] the new X ? [20:58] jacobw: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTUyOQ [21:01] jacobw, new xorg drivers for intel [21:01] using xorg-edgers [21:01] 'evening all. Can anyone advise me on getting Postgres set up? Documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL seems lacking [21:04] awesome, i've an intel chipset.. [21:04] but i guess this is just for sandybridge? [21:05] * jacobw follows MartijnVdS's link [21:05] no [21:05] everything since i915 I think [21:06] though sb has the most improvement [21:07] this is cool, i installed ubuntu on a laptop with i915, having graphical problems with it so i may try these new drivers [21:07] not that going from stable to prerelease is a good way to solve problems, but sometimes its cool.. [21:08] * daubers considers tea or beer [21:08] tea [21:08] its sunday [21:08] beer. it still early. [21:08] beer, to drink away your Windows pain [21:08] :) [21:09] (i think i might be a polygon with four equal side and angels) [21:11] jacobw, it really won't affect non sandybridge devices :( === sbasuita_ is now known as sbasuita [21:12] * TheOpenSourcerer has been a good boy today. Done quite a bit of work and now thinks he deserves a beer. [21:13] :) [21:13] * brobostigon has a gin and tonic [21:14] Oooh - Now there's a cracking Idea brobostigon [21:14] hehe. [21:14] I have Tanqueray, Schweppes and lemons. No ice mind... [21:15] if your tonic is cool, you hould be ok. [21:15] Good evening all [21:15] evening diplo [21:16] Yeah - see you all tomorrow. Cheers [21:16] good night TheOpenSourcerer o/ [21:17] kettle boiled [21:17] Please no spoilers on F1, playing catch up atm [21:17] :) [21:18] ok, :) [21:22] * jacobw wonders if dutchie is present [21:25] Hmm caught up now, seems BBC1 HD wasn't covering, moved to bbc2 now :( [21:25] missed the restart [21:26] diplo: bbc hd too [21:27] :( [21:28] * diplo moves [21:28] Forget about that channel [21:28] Wish they would group all hd channels closer [21:32] O_O lost all my contacts in evolution [21:32] why wasn't i using u1 contact sync :( i kept meaning to set it up... [21:32] Evening all btw [21:33] hi popey [21:34] I really wish Dexter would get multi contact sync working [21:34] Like the look of the new Gnome contact manager as well [21:34] evening all :) [21:36] just came up with an awesome idea to make the dash faster on O :) [21:36] evening Ricey [21:37] all well i hope? anyhting new happenin' ? [21:38] Just joined myself :) [21:39] cool, tell you what though - everytime i have to fix a computer for someone i hate windows more and more! [21:39] heh [21:39] quite a bad malware infection this time on a netbook [21:40] sheesh! [21:41] :P [21:44] windows on a netbook :( [21:44] oh tell me about it - xp mind you but still :( [21:45] 7 infections so far and counting, that's just off malwarebytes! [21:50] Ricey, I'd probably blame you for using a 10-year-old OS. [21:51] lol if i'd installed it then i would blame me too! [21:51] but this time it's acer's fault for putting it on ;) [21:51] More like, your fault for not installing Mint on that netbook. [21:52] Nobody would expect a 10-year-old Linux distro to work well on modern hardware, even if it was fully patched. [21:52] i would surely love to if i had my own way ;) but .... hang on i might just do it anyway ;) [21:52] So I don't understand why people buy hardware with an ancient version of Windows on it, and expect it to not suck. [21:52] preaching to the converted here! [21:53] I'm glad I could change your mind. [21:53] Just a shame there's no Mint channel on freenode. [21:53] you didn't have to it was already changed ;) [21:53] has been for years! [21:53] * jacobw is suprised there is no #mint [21:55] they have their own irc server don't they? [21:56] Official support channel is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [21:59] mock the week, has been beated by F1, :( [21:59] beaten* [22:00] :) [22:00] :( [22:00] indeed, how are you fella anyway - all ok? [22:01] Ricey: not bad, could be better. and you? [22:01] good, same here, glad to be at home for a whle at least [22:01] :) [22:01] been away far too much recently [22:02] not good. [22:02] too true - 300 days away in 2 years isn't fun! [22:03] long time :o [22:03] ouch, [22:03] aye, and another 3 months to come as of august [22:03] that would be a nightmare for me. [22:04] my missus isn't best ahppy at the min [22:04] i can imagine. [22:04] at least for the 3 months it's in the states and will have a decent broadband connection [22:04] ;) [22:04] :) [22:04] lte.* [22:04] jacobw: i am now [22:04] 4g* [22:04] * dutchie reads back [22:05] no, not there yet ;) it's in the hotel [22:05] i don't think there is 4g in nebraska yet ;) too backwards! [22:05] Ricey: ohwell. [22:05] i might check again though..... [22:05] jacobw: not particularly clear what you wanted... [22:05] 4g LTE they call it right? [22:06] Ricey: either of those two. [22:06] k [22:08] i was wondering if being a maths student you had any opinions of how long it'd take to learn the concepts behind a level maths [22:08] the pure stuff, not s1/2 or m1/2 [22:09] jacobw: i'd say not long, but then i am an oxford mathematician looking back at the end of my first year... [22:09] heh [22:10] cool [22:10] i can't particularly remember what's on c1-4 nowadays anyway [22:11] trigonometry, identities, differential calculus [22:11] "identities"? [22:12] minus the comma [22:12] differentiation is pretty easy [22:12] trig identities are simple once you've got them learned [22:12] trig itself is straightforward [22:12] isn't there some integration in there too? [22:13] yes [22:13] i don't entirely know what i'm talking about to be honest [22:14] i want to try maths with the open university so i'm trying to judge where to jump in [22:15] i've studied some AS level maths before, so i guess i just need to refamiliarise with c1/2 topics [22:16] no harm in buying a textbook and looking through it [22:17] yeah, i think that's what i'm going to do [22:19] thanks for putting up with my silly questions :) [22:43] . /o\ trig ID's [22:44] The main reason I loved Mathematica as a student was because I loathed and detested remembering trig id's :) Always shifted trig into e notation when I could [22:45] Hmmm... conundrum [22:46] What version controlling system works best on windows [22:51] daubers, i use svn with tortoise [22:51] works well for me [22:52] Ooooh bzr integrates really nicely [22:53] Also means I don't have to learn any new command sets \o/ Hooray for lazyness [22:53] About to start trying bzr at work in next week or two [22:53] diplo: We use bzr at work :) [22:54] Right! Early morning tomorrow [22:54] Night all [22:54] nn [22:54] good night, sleep well. [22:55] evening folks [23:02] well the netbook is a right off [23:02] completely hosed [23:04] hope they'll let me put ubuntu on! [23:12] is there any way to do find and replace in a bunch of files? [23:12] like replace all, but on a bunch of files [23:14] is this for the filenames or the files themselves? [23:16] files themselves [23:16] so you need to find a certain set of files then do what exactly? [23:16] I want to replace the content of a bunch of text files [23:17] for example if there's 70 text files all in one folder, and they all contain a URL which is no longer valid [23:17] I want to replace the URL with a valid one :) [23:19] it can certainly be done, probably with a small shell script script [23:19] only one script there [23:19] it depends on whether you need the URL verification to be automatic [23:19] yea, I think I got it with sed [23:19] i was about to suggest the very same [23:19] :) [23:20] it's a handy tool === ujjain|afk is now known as ujjain [23:42] night all