[02:12] <ali1234> !info ktechlab
[02:12] <ali1234> !info ktechlab maverick
[02:12] <ali1234> hmm what happened?
[02:12] <Azelphur> that sounds like a fun tool
[02:13] <ali1234> yeah
[02:13] <ali1234> well, i need something that can support defining my own signals and parts
[02:14] <ali1234> preferably in an easy to use language like python
[02:14] <ali1234> i wonder why it was removed
[02:20] <Azelphur> indeed
[02:37] <ali1234> deleted because it depends on kde3
[03:02] <ali1234> Azelphur: turns out you can install the maverick deb and it works fine
[03:02] <Azelphur> :D
[03:02] <ali1234> seems like a nice program
[03:03] <ali1234> just need to figure out how to add custom parts and signal sources
[08:54] <MooDoo> morning all
[09:27]  * nigelb waves to MooDoo 
[09:28] <MooDoo> hello nigelb :)
[09:29] <MooDoo> nigelb: how are you on this fine sunday
[09:30] <nigelb> MooDoo: Hello. Pretty good. Contemplating a fine siesta ;)
[09:30] <MooDoo> nigelb: well considering i'm at work....pah! :p
[09:30] <nigelb> heh
[10:14] <daubers> Morning
[10:14] <MooDoo> morning daubers
[10:14] <MartijnVdS> morning everyone
[10:22] <AlanBell> morning
[10:22] <AlanBell> how do you stop playing angry birds?
[10:23] <MooDoo> AlanBell: with great difficulty, or install rio where there are only a certain amont of levels then youhave to stop :D
[10:36] <MartijnVdS> Hm
[10:36] <MartijnVdS> Oneiric is more broken than ever. As it's unity that seems to have gone, I blame gord :)
[10:48] <TimSC> WHO riv
[10:49] <TimSC> WHO oops that was completely wrong!
[10:52] <MooDoo> :)
[11:09] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[11:10] <MooDoo> brobostigon: morning
[11:10] <brobostigon> MooDoo: good morning, :)
[12:03] <MartijnVdS> \o
[12:06] <brobostigon> o/
[12:08] <MooDoo> \o/ /o\ C A :)
[12:21] <matti> Hm.
[12:21] <matti> Freenode is unhappy today.
[12:21] <MooDoo> matti: give it a hug
[12:24]  * matti huggles Freenode
[12:24] <matti> Oh dear.
[12:24] <matti> I've got a notification from Update Manager that my version is no longer supported ;]
[12:24] <matti> Heh
[12:24] <matti> ;)
[12:27] <jacobw> uh?
[12:27] <jacobw> lol @ YMCA
[12:49] <penguin42> hmm that really shouldn't happen - a metacity running as gdm screwing up my session
[12:58] <gord> my weather indicator says the current weather is three wavy lines again... its been like a year, can't figure out what that is
[13:00] <jacobw> high winds?
[13:04] <penguin42> gord: Which theme do you use?
[13:04] <gord> the default
[13:05] <gord> jacobw, nope
[13:06] <penguin42> gord: That's fog
[13:07] <penguin42> gord: See /usr/share/icons/Humanity/status/16/weather-fog.svg
[13:07] <gord> thanks for ruining a mystery :(
[13:07] <penguin42> haha
[13:12] <MartijnVdS> gord: Bacon. It means the weather is bacon.
[13:14] <gord> thats more like it
[13:18] <suprengr> gord, I think it means it's *windy* or overcast bacon
[13:18] <suprengr> [overcast - not overcooked]
[13:23] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: A bit like "Cloudy with a chance of meatballs", but less spherical ;)
[13:25] <famousmortimer> Hurrah for getting ubuntu back! How I've missed ya
[13:26] <scoundrel50a> hi, where is the Google Chrome installation directory found?
[13:27] <famousmortimer> Have you tried Chromium?
[13:27] <scoundrel50a> I wanted to know where the Chrome files were, I have Chrome installed, and Chromium, are they the same thing then?
[13:28] <suprengr> MartijnVdS, what? only a chance of meatballs - I've just looked outside - there's meatballs out there ;)
[13:28] <scoundrel50a> and where would chromium files be?
[13:28] <gord> suprengr, look in ~/.config
[13:29] <suprengr> gord, pourquoi?
[13:29] <gord> suprengr, open up nautilus, type Ctrl+l - then ~/.config
[13:31] <scoundrel50a> anybody?
[13:31] <gord> suprengr, sorry you got in the way of my alt-tab
[13:31] <gord> scoundrel50a, ^^
[13:33] <suprengr> gord, you had me confused [not hard to do that] but I'll let you off
[13:33] <scoundrel50a> gord: dont know what ^^ means are talking about what you told suprengr?
[13:34] <gord> scoundrel50a, yes
[13:34] <gord> ^^ are arrows indicating you look up
[13:34] <jacobw> `whereis chrome; whereis chromium`
[13:34] <scoundrel50a> ok, thankyou, will go take a look. Sorry, had no idea about ^^ being arrows, thank you.
[13:35] <scoundrel50a> ah, thank you, that is where it is, been trying to find that all morning.......
[13:58] <scoundrel50a> how do you keep the search box there by default in nautilus?
[13:58] <scoundrel50a> instead of having to use ctrl+l to get it to open
[14:00] <gord> i think there is an option hidden around somewhere
[14:33] <ryan> how do i force remove fglrx-amdcccle?
[15:03]  * daubers turns on some heating
[15:14] <penguin42> sheesh the stuff printed on stickers on amazon packages - it has my phone number
[15:18] <dutchie> daubers: it's june!
[15:26] <penguin42> dutchie: Hardly flaming
[15:49] <jacobw> !ping
[15:49] <jacobw> its raining here
[15:50] <jacobw> lubotu is insubordinate :p
[15:52] <suprengr> jacobw, gives me a headache just thinking *down* to it's level
[15:53] <jacobw> indeed
[16:41] <AlanBell> afternoon
[16:41] <Pendulum> hiya AlanBell
[16:41]  * AlanBell has completed epic DIY light fitting task
[16:43] <AlanBell> hi Pendulum, whats up with you today?
[16:43] <dogmatic69_> o/
[16:46] <Pendulum> AlanBell: duvet day mostly. the universe decided I should get a cold on top of everything else
[16:56] <gord> i also got a cold :( but mine is more worse
[16:56]  * Pendulum hugs
[16:57] <Pendulum> gord ^^
[16:57] <Pendulum> gord: I'll take your cold off you if you'll take my swollen hip and messed up neck :P
[16:57] <Pendulum> actually, would probably do it for either of those
[16:58] <gord> i'll quit complaining about my slightly sore throat now ;) at least before czajkowski calls diddums on me
[16:58] <suprengr> AlanBell, you sure it's not hay fever? I used to make that mistake until it startewd happening at the same-ish time each year.  This year is a baddy & catching many peeps unawares.
[16:59] <suprengr> *started
[16:59]  * czajkowski hugs gord 
[16:59]  * AlanBell is in fine fettle
[16:59] <czajkowski> steak has been purchased
[16:59] <czajkowski> shop does not sell pepper sauce however
[16:59] <czajkowski> :(
[16:59] <MooDoo> ooo steak
[17:00] <suprengr> whoops... that should have been for Pendulum
[17:00] <czajkowski> steak onions, beans and potato grattin for din dins
[17:01]  * AlanBell loves gratin dauphinois
[17:01] <Pendulum> suprengr: yeah. everyone else around here (I'm in the US) has had hay fever for the past 6 weeks and are starting to get better. I woke up yesterday with a sore throat and today with a worse sore throat and a cough
[17:01] <MooDoo> czajkowski: where you live i'm coming round for steak
[17:01] <livingdaylight> hi, can I ask; does anyone know. Is it general known wisdom that laptop with dedicated graphics card is better than onboard graphics card?
[17:01]  * suprengr passes czajkowski a virtual empty plate [& hopes for nom noms]
[17:02] <AlanBell> livingdaylight: switchable graphics cards are known to be a pita
[17:02] <livingdaylight> I'm looking at hp dm4 laptop and choosing between 1 which has 512 card vs the integrated graphics model
[17:02] <czajkowski> well kinda last nice dinner for a wee bit
[17:02] <czajkowski> trying to be good come monday and bf goes into hospital on thursday
[17:02] <AlanBell> is it just a dedicated card or can you switch between internal and external?
[17:03] <livingdaylight> AlanBell, switchable are the dedicated ones?
[17:03] <livingdaylight> AlanBell, it has 512 dedicated but can take more from the botherboard up to 2gb I think... does that make it the switchable one?
[17:04] <Pendulum> gord: s'ok. I'm willing to bet you're more miserable than I am because I probably have more spacey meds than you ;-)
[17:04] <czajkowski> gord: you sprinting in london or dublin
[17:04] <livingdaylight> The ATi HD graphics card has 512Mb of dedicated memory but can also use system memory when required for a total of 2202Mb. It also supports "switchable graphics"; when you're using the system on the battery, it can automatically switch to the integrated Intel graphics to save power. A very neat feature.
[17:05] <AlanBell> that will be a switchable one then
[17:05] <livingdaylight> http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy-HP-DM4-1060-Laptop/651265
[17:05] <livingdaylight> ok, that's a shame coz there is a nice buy now deal for £400 on ebay
[17:06] <AlanBell> I suspect both will work fine, but switching between them on the fly might be problematic
[17:06] <livingdaylight> I thought dedicated would be preferable to the hd onboard  ones
[17:06] <AlanBell> or it might just work
[17:06] <livingdaylight> k, thanks for the input. I just wondered before committing and making a mistake
[17:07] <AlanBell> there is nothing much wrong with intel integrated graphics tbh
[17:07] <livingdaylight> sure
[17:07] <AlanBell> does all the compiz bling on the laptop screen plus 2048x1152 HDMI monitor
[17:08] <livingdaylight> i just thought general consensus was dedicated graphics would be preferable; is that not the case any longer?
[17:08] <AlanBell> and I doubt you would be bitcoin mining on your laptop
[17:08] <livingdaylight> bitcoin lol
[17:08] <livingdaylight> I heard about bitcoin just the other day for the first time
[17:09] <livingdaylight> no, I would not be bitcoin mining with my laptop or any other machine as it happens, unless I thought it would buckle the world-wide monetary system, muahaahaha
[17:11] <livingdaylight> in terms of heat would dedicated graphics card increase the heat, or other way around?
[17:13] <AlanBell> yeah
[17:13] <AlanBell> it would run hotter, use more power
[17:13] <AlanBell> which is why you can switch to the intel one
[17:14] <dogmatic69_> AlanBell: sup
[17:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> Interesting factoid on QI last night... from 1ton of rock (in a gold area) you get 50gms of gold.
[17:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> From 1ton of old mobile phone you get 150gms
[17:20] <DJones> Why did I think that was going to become a minecraft comment
[17:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> Off to make a nice Risotto with onions, garlic and chard from the garden...
[17:21] <czajkowski> nice
[17:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yes czajkowski, it will be. I am making it ;-)
[17:22] <brobostigon> yummy,
[17:28]  * suprengr counters with liver coated in flour & cayenne pepper with broccoli, red pepper & something else.
[17:38]  * suprengr gets ready for F1... bfn & cheers
[17:57] <czajkowski> anyone here got empathy working with google voice/video ??
[18:06]  * daubers has just got an email from the police
[18:06] <daubers> Apparently the guy who threw stuff at me the other month has been officially cautioned
[18:06] <Azelphur> \o/
[19:49]  * MartijnVdS is still watching F1
[19:49]  * brobostigon is also.
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> I think Ted Kravitz has some water in his equipment.. with all the noises
[19:51] <brobostigon> yes.
[19:51] <brobostigon> maybe.
[20:03] <geek1d> lol http://aimlinux.com/blog/?tag=rofl
[20:24] <davidd_> gpredict
[20:24] <davidd_> exit
[20:33] <MartijnVdS> heh https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23F1WaterNames
[20:35] <omenrose> hi!! I just want to ask about conky, my conky disappear when I click on my desktop, is there any conf. to make it stay alert in my desktop?
[20:42] <daubers> I'd forgotten how easy Visual Studio stuff makes making GUI apps
[20:44] <gord> time to jump on xorg-edgers i guess, terrifying
[20:47] <Core_UK> daubers: repent
[20:47] <Core_UK> daubers: freedom hater!
[20:48] <gord> visual studio really is very good
[20:48]  * Core_UK is ignorant to freedom haters!
[20:48] <gord> some people refuse to code without it, thats kinda sad, like lost knowledge, but visual studio is still very well made
[20:49] <Core_UK> its okay but I dont use any of the languages
[20:49] <Core_UK> I tried it with a python add on but didnt really give it a lot of thought
[20:52] <MartijnVdS> I'm too used to vim + perl/python
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> I bet VS is good for "MS languages" and C++ though
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> once you get used to it
[20:53] <gord> holy crap the new X is fast
[20:53] <gord> i mean, with sandybridge. the new sna architecture is about 4-5 times faster it feels
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> gord: is that the SandyBridge-Newaccel?
[20:53]  * brobostigon is happy ith nano for c++.
[20:53] <gord> its *really* fast
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> gord: you have working unity then?
[20:53] <gord> yup
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> gord: I get a black screen on oneiric :(
[20:53] <gord> all the corruption is gone too, happy happy me
[20:54] <gord> MartijnVdS, thats your fault for being on oneiric :P crazy person
[20:54] <MartijnVdS> gord: thanks :)
[20:55] <gord> this does pose one problem, i was going to make the dash faster but now i don't have a machine thats slow enough :(
[20:55] <MartijnVdS> sleep(10);
[20:55] <gord> .... no
[20:57] <jacobw> the new X ?
[20:58] <MartijnVdS> jacobw: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTUyOQ
[21:01] <gord> jacobw, new xorg drivers for intel
[21:01] <gord> using xorg-edgers
[21:01] <doubi> 'evening all. Can anyone advise me on getting Postgres set up? Documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL seems lacking
[21:04] <jacobw> awesome, i've an intel chipset..
[21:04] <jacobw> but i guess this is just for sandybridge?
[21:05]  * jacobw follows MartijnVdS's link
[21:05] <MartijnVdS> no
[21:05] <MartijnVdS> everything since i915 I think
[21:06] <MartijnVdS> though sb has the most improvement
[21:07] <jacobw> this is cool, i installed ubuntu on a laptop with i915, having graphical problems with it so i may try these new drivers
[21:07] <jacobw> not that going from stable to prerelease is a good way to solve problems, but sometimes its cool..
[21:08]  * daubers considers tea or beer
[21:08] <jacobw> tea
[21:08] <jacobw> its sunday
[21:08] <brobostigon> beer. it still early.
[21:08] <MartijnVdS> beer, to drink away your Windows pain
[21:08] <brobostigon> :)
[21:09] <jacobw> (i think i might be a polygon with four equal side and angels)
[21:11] <gord> jacobw, it really won't affect non sandybridge devices :(
[21:12]  * TheOpenSourcerer has been a good boy today. Done quite a bit of work and now thinks he deserves a beer.
[21:13] <brobostigon> :)
[21:13]  * brobostigon has a gin and tonic
[21:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oooh - Now there's a cracking Idea brobostigon
[21:14] <brobostigon> hehe.
[21:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> I have Tanqueray, Schweppes and lemons. No ice mind...
[21:15] <brobostigon> if your tonic is cool, you hould be ok.
[21:15] <diplo> Good evening all
[21:15] <brobostigon> evening diplo
[21:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yeah - see you all tomorrow. Cheers
[21:16] <brobostigon> good night TheOpenSourcerer o/
[21:17] <daubers> kettle boiled
[21:17] <diplo> Please no spoilers on F1, playing catch up atm
[21:17] <diplo> :)
[21:18] <brobostigon> ok, :)
[21:22]  * jacobw wonders if dutchie is present
[21:25] <diplo> Hmm caught up now, seems BBC1 HD wasn't covering, moved to bbc2 now :(
[21:25] <diplo> missed the restart
[21:26] <popey> diplo: bbc hd too
[21:27] <diplo> :(
[21:28]  * diplo moves
[21:28] <diplo> Forget about that channel
[21:28] <diplo> Wish they would group all hd channels closer
[21:32] <gord> O_O lost all my contacts in evolution
[21:32] <gord> why wasn't i using u1 contact sync :( i kept meaning to set it up...
[21:32] <popey> Evening all btw
[21:33] <zleap> hi popey
[21:34] <diplo> I really wish Dexter would get multi contact sync working
[21:34] <diplo> Like the look of the new Gnome contact manager as well
[21:34] <Ricey> evening all :)
[21:36] <gord> just came up with an awesome idea to make the dash faster on O :)
[21:36] <diplo> evening Ricey
[21:37] <Ricey> all well i hope? anyhting new happenin' ?
[21:38] <diplo> Just joined myself :)
[21:39] <Ricey> cool, tell you what though - everytime i have to fix a computer for someone i hate windows more and more!
[21:39] <diplo> heh
[21:39] <Ricey> quite a bad malware infection this time on a netbook
[21:40] <Ricey> sheesh!
[21:41] <diplo> :P
[21:44] <jacobw> windows on a netbook :(
[21:44] <Ricey> oh tell me about it - xp mind you but still :(
[21:45] <Ricey> 7 infections so far and counting, that's just off malwarebytes!
[21:50] <RaycisCharles> Ricey, I'd probably blame you for using a 10-year-old OS.
[21:51] <Ricey> lol if i'd installed it then i would blame me too!
[21:51] <Ricey> but this time it's acer's fault for putting it on ;)
[21:51] <RaycisCharles> More like, your fault for not installing Mint on that netbook.
[21:52] <RaycisCharles> Nobody would expect a 10-year-old Linux distro to work well on modern hardware, even if it was fully patched.
[21:52] <Ricey> i would surely love to if i had my own way ;)  but .... hang on i might just do it anyway ;)
[21:52] <RaycisCharles> So I don't understand why people buy hardware with an ancient version of Windows on it, and expect it to not suck.
[21:52] <Ricey> preaching to the converted here!
[21:53] <RaycisCharles> I'm glad I could change your mind.
[21:53] <RaycisCharles> Just a shame there's no Mint channel on freenode.
[21:53] <Ricey> you didn't have to it was already changed ;)
[21:53] <Ricey> has been for years!
[21:53]  * jacobw is suprised there is no #mint
[21:55] <Ricey> they have their own irc server don't they?
[21:56] <Ricey> Official support channel is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[21:59] <brobostigon> mock the week, has been beated by F1, :(
[21:59] <brobostigon> beaten*
[22:00] <Ricey> :)
[22:00] <brobostigon> :(
[22:00] <Ricey> indeed, how are you fella anyway - all ok?
[22:01] <brobostigon> Ricey: not bad, could be better. and you?
[22:01] <Ricey> good, same here, glad to be at home for a whle at least
[22:01] <brobostigon> :)
[22:01] <Ricey> been away far too much recently
[22:02] <brobostigon> not good.
[22:02] <Ricey> too true - 300 days away in 2 years isn't fun!
[22:03] <jacobw> long time :o
[22:03] <brobostigon> ouch,
[22:03] <Ricey> aye, and another 3 months to come as of august
[22:03] <brobostigon> that would be a nightmare for me.
[22:04] <Ricey> my missus isn't best ahppy at the min
[22:04] <brobostigon> i can imagine.
[22:04] <Ricey> at least for the 3 months it's in the states and will have a decent broadband connection
[22:04] <Ricey> ;)
[22:04] <brobostigon> :)
[22:04] <brobostigon> lte.*
[22:04] <dutchie> jacobw: i am now
[22:04] <brobostigon> 4g*
[22:04]  * dutchie reads back
[22:05] <Ricey> no, not there yet ;) it's in the hotel
[22:05] <Ricey> i don't think there is 4g in nebraska yet ;) too backwards!
[22:05] <brobostigon> Ricey: ohwell.
[22:05] <Ricey> i might check again though.....
[22:05] <dutchie> jacobw: not particularly clear what you wanted...
[22:05] <Ricey> 4g LTE they call it right?
[22:06] <brobostigon> Ricey: either of those two.
[22:06] <Ricey> k
[22:08] <jacobw> i was wondering if being a maths student you had any opinions of how long it'd take to learn the concepts behind a level maths
[22:08] <jacobw> the pure stuff, not s1/2 or m1/2
[22:09] <dutchie> jacobw: i'd say not long, but then i am an oxford mathematician looking back at the end of my first year...
[22:09] <jacobw> heh
[22:10] <jacobw> cool
[22:10] <dutchie> i can't particularly remember what's on c1-4 nowadays anyway
[22:11] <jacobw> trigonometry, identities, differential calculus
[22:11] <dutchie> "identities"?
[22:12] <jacobw> minus the comma
[22:12] <dutchie> differentiation is pretty easy
[22:12] <dutchie> trig identities are simple once you've got them learned
[22:12] <dutchie> trig itself is straightforward
[22:12] <dutchie> isn't there some integration in there too?
[22:13] <jacobw> yes
[22:13] <jacobw> i don't entirely know what i'm talking about to be honest
[22:14] <jacobw> i want to try maths with the open university so i'm trying to judge where to jump in
[22:15] <jacobw> i've studied some AS level maths before, so i guess i just need to refamiliarise with c1/2 topics
[22:16] <dutchie> no harm in buying a textbook and looking through it
[22:17] <jacobw> yeah, i think that's what i'm going to do
[22:19] <jacobw> thanks for putting up with my silly questions :)
[22:43] <daubers> . /o\ trig ID's
[22:44] <daubers> The main reason I loved Mathematica as a student was because I loathed and detested remembering trig id's :) Always shifted trig into e notation when I could
[22:45] <daubers> Hmmm... conundrum
[22:46] <daubers> What version controlling system works best on windows
[22:51] <diplo> daubers, i use svn with tortoise
[22:51] <diplo> works well for me
[22:52] <daubers> Ooooh bzr integrates really nicely
[22:53] <daubers> Also means I don't have to learn any new command sets \o/ Hooray for lazyness
[22:53] <diplo> About to start trying bzr at work in next week or two
[22:53] <daubers> diplo: We use bzr at work :)
[22:54] <daubers> Right! Early morning tomorrow
[22:54] <daubers> Night all
[22:54] <diplo> nn
[22:54] <brobostigon> good night, sleep well.
[22:55] <roachy> evening folks
[23:02] <Ricey> well the netbook is a right off
[23:02] <Ricey> completely hosed
[23:04] <Ricey> hope they'll let me put ubuntu on!
[23:12] <Azelphur> is there any way to do find and replace in a bunch of files?
[23:12] <Azelphur> like replace all, but on a bunch of files
[23:14] <Ricey> is this for the filenames or the files themselves?
[23:16] <Azelphur> files themselves
[23:16] <Ricey> so you need to find a certain set of files then do what exactly?
[23:16] <Azelphur> I want to replace the content of a bunch of text files
[23:17] <Azelphur> for example if there's 70 text files all in one folder, and they all contain a URL which is no longer valid
[23:17] <Azelphur> I want to replace the URL with a valid one :)
[23:19] <Ricey> it can certainly be done, probably with a small shell script script
[23:19] <Ricey> only one script there
[23:19] <Ricey> it depends on whether you need the URL verification to be automatic
[23:19] <Azelphur> yea, I think I got it with sed
[23:19] <Ricey> i was about to suggest the very same
[23:19] <Azelphur> :)
[23:20] <Ricey> it's a handy tool
[23:42] <Ricey> night all