| * seidos waves and has a seat | 03:42 | |
| * rww particles back | 03:42 | |
| * seidos laughs | 03:43 | |
| seidos | RIP Nicole Eggert: http://jeremywheaton.typepad.com/my-blog/2011/05/rip-nicole-eggert.html | 03:45 |
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| seidos | poor chicken | 03:45 |
| sn9 | apparently, on lucid, if you right-click files and select Compress, the default format is .ar, which there is no gui way to extract whatsoever | 04:03 |
| akk | heh | 04:03 |
| === akk_ is now known as akk | ||
| MarkDude | aaditya, ping | 04:59 |
| MarkDude | http://geeknic.org/?p=149 | 05:22 |
| MarkDude | Geeknic next weekend in Walnut Creek at heather Farms | 05:23 |
| === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 | ||
| BrightAmbition | Does anybody know how to copy and paste a document to open office from a scan? | 17:41 |
| BrightAmbition | Hello? | 17:42 |
| akk | scans are usually images in some pretty standard format, png or whatever -- just insert it like any other image | 17:44 |
| BrightAmbition | No I had to scan my book and i need to copy and paste it somewhere to make the font bigger | 17:45 |
| BrightAmbition | It's just scanned words | 17:45 |
| akk | Oh, you want it to do OCR (optical character recognition) on the image it scanned? | 17:46 |
| akk | OCR is the keyword to google for there. | 17:46 |
| BrightAmbition | How do i fix it so i could copy and paste it someplace else from a scan? | 17:46 |
| akk | (I haven't done OCR myself, so can't help you, but google should have lots of stuff.) | 17:46 |
| BrightAmbition | k | 17:46 |
| BrightAmbition | This is frustrating because the font is too small for me to read so i was gonna try just putting it thru my computer and copying it someplace else to make it bigger | 17:48 |
| akk | You can also scan at a higher resolution, or scale the image up in an image editing program, if the point is just to make it readable for you. | 17:49 |
| BrightAmbition | Is there any other way i could do that without OCR? | 17:49 |
| BrightAmbition | What would be a good image edition program? | 17:49 |
| akk | gimp | 17:49 |
| BrightAmbition | oops | 17:49 |
| BrightAmbition | editing | 17:49 |
| BrightAmbition | I hate when i make typos | 17:50 |
| BrightAmbition | akk: I tried gimp there's so much to gimp that it ovewelmes me i'm used to paintshop | 17:50 |
| BrightAmbition | *overwelmes | 17:50 |
| akk | There are simpler programs ... I'm kinda tied to gimp myself so I haven't used the simpler ones and can't compare them well. | 17:50 |
| BrightAmbition | Is there a way i could put it thru gimp then? | 17:51 |
| sn9 | akk is the local expert on gimp. she's written books about it | 17:51 |
| akk | I know some of the basic image viewing programs can do things like scaling up and down. | 17:51 |
| akk | What program do you get if you just doubleclick on an image? Maybe whatever program that is can scale. | 17:51 |
| BrightAmbition | Like copy and paste from scanning | 17:51 |
| BrightAmbition | I just need to figure out how i make the font bigger in gimp then | 17:51 |
| BrightAmbition | Because gimp has a lot of things going on with it | 17:51 |
| akk | Image->Scale is how to make things bigger in GIMP. | 17:52 |
| BrightAmbition | I used to be good with gimp but haven't used it in a while | 17:52 |
| BrightAmbition | I used to edit my pictures on there | 17:52 |
| BrightAmbition | After i scale the document then what? | 17:53 |
| BrightAmbition | Is it possible to use different fonts after that? | 17:54 |
| BrightAmbition | Like exchange the old font with a new one | 17:54 |
| BrightAmbition | hello | 17:55 |
| akk | BrightAmbition: Please stop getting impatient if nobody answers you for 2 minutes. | 17:59 |
| akk | People may occasionally need to leave the keyboard for one reason or another. | 17:59 |
| BrightAmbition | oh sorry | 17:59 |
| akk | Pestering just irritates people and makes them not want to answer. | 18:00 |
| akk | No, you can't change font if you're working with an image. | 18:00 |
| akk | A scanned image is just pixels -- there's no information about the font or the text. | 18:00 |
| akk | That's what OCR is for, to take an image and turn it into text. | 18:00 |
| BrightAmbition | ok | 18:21 |
| BrightAmbition | hey aaditya | 18:47 |
| BrightAmbition | hey ryaxnb and mpontillo | 18:47 |
| BrightAmbition | wassup mark | 18:52 |
| sn9 | i seem to have read the text with gscan2pdf and ocropus, but there appears to be no way to save it | 19:22 |
| sn9 | any ideas? | 19:56 |
| akk | There's gotta be a way to save -- otherwise it wouldn't be useful. | 20:19 |
| sn9 | i can't find a way | 20:19 |
| akk | Got a scan I can test with ocropus? | 20:21 |
| akk | And have you tried tesseract? When I installed ocropus it gave me a recommended package of tesseract-ocr | 20:21 |
| sn9 | just import any graphic file into gscan2pdf | 20:22 |
| akk | and when I run tesseract it gives a usage statement that includes an output filename | 20:22 |
| akk | any graphic file even if it doesn't have text in it? That seems like a bad test. | 20:22 |
| sn9 | tesseract cannot separate text from nontext in gscan2pdf, whereas ocropus reads line by line | 20:22 |
| sn9 | i think ocropus is a fork of tesseract or something | 20:23 |
| akk | ha, tesseract gets a seg fault | 20:25 |
| sn9 | cuneiform is the one that won't run for me | 20:25 |
| akk | I can't figure out how to run ocrscript (the only program ocropus installed). | 20:26 |
| sn9 | gscan2pdf | 20:26 |
| akk | That wants to install 28 packages, so I'm not going to do that just to help test. :) | 20:27 |
| sn9 | ah | 20:27 |
| akk | Besides, if I was scanning I wouldn't want PDF, I'd want something I could select and paste. | 20:27 |
| akk | tesseract is supposed to be the way to go ... if I were desperate to do OCR I'd probably get the latest tesseract from source, since the one on lucid dumps core. | 20:28 |
| sn9 | seems ocropus is not a fork of tesseract but a wrapper for it | 20:28 |
| akk | I think there are also online sites that will ocr for you with tesseract. | 20:28 |
| akk | yes, it's a wrapper | 20:28 |
| akk | that makes it harder to use, AFAICT | 20:28 |
| akk | whatta deal! | 20:29 |
| sn9 | manpage: "Natively, Tesseract doesn't do layout analysis, but combined with OCRopus, it makes for a pretty good OCR system" | 20:30 |
| mpontillo | BrightAmbition, hello =) I am mostly idling... watching my kids etc | 21:32 |
| sn9 | i ended up updating gscan2pdf from a ppa and it allowed me to save | 21:33 |
| mpontillo | oh I guess she's gone... now how do I tell xchat to show the dang user list | 21:33 |
| sn9 | xchat shows it by default | 21:33 |
| mpontillo | I thought it did but I don't see it. | 21:33 |
| sn9 | maybe you shrank it to zero size | 21:34 |
| mpontillo | ah there it is, it was all the way to the right such that it wasn't visible | 21:34 |
| sn9 | try dragging it back from the right | 21:34 |
| mpontillo | thanks sn9, I don't remember doing that on purpose =) | 21:34 |
| mpontillo | I guess she is here, hehe. anyway - afk | 21:35 |
| sn9 | right | 21:35 |
| BrightAmbition | ok i'm back | 21:45 |
| BrightAmbition | I've been trying to read over my lines | 21:45 |
| BrightAmbition | practicing for my monologue | 21:45 |
| BrightAmbition | oops | 21:45 |
| BrightAmbition | practicing for my theater class | 21:46 |
| rww | jyo_: I got your email, thanks :). I'm going to send out mine this evening. | 21:46 |
| BrightAmbition | sn9: I think i'm better with improv or method acting | 22:08 |
| BrightAmbition | sn9: I hate when they give lines to remember i want it to come naturally | 22:09 |
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