[03:42]  * seidos waves and has a seat
[03:42]  * rww particles back
[03:43]  * seidos laughs
[03:45] <seidos> RIP Nicole Eggert:  http://jeremywheaton.typepad.com/my-blog/2011/05/rip-nicole-eggert.html
[03:45] <seidos> poor chicken
[04:03] <sn9> apparently, on lucid, if you right-click files and select Compress, the default format is .ar, which there is no gui way to extract whatsoever
[04:03] <akk> heh
[04:59] <MarkDude> aaditya, ping
[05:22] <MarkDude> http://geeknic.org/?p=149
[05:23] <MarkDude> Geeknic next weekend in Walnut Creek at heather Farms
[17:41] <BrightAmbition> Does anybody know how to copy and paste a document to open office from a scan?
[17:42] <BrightAmbition> Hello?
[17:44] <akk> scans are usually images in some pretty standard format, png or whatever -- just insert it like any other image
[17:45] <BrightAmbition> No I had to scan my book and i need to copy and paste it somewhere to make the font bigger
[17:45] <BrightAmbition> It's just scanned words
[17:46] <akk> Oh, you want it to do OCR (optical character recognition) on the image it scanned?
[17:46] <akk> OCR is the keyword to google for there.
[17:46] <BrightAmbition> How do i fix it so i could copy and paste it someplace else from a scan?
[17:46] <akk> (I haven't done OCR myself, so can't help you, but google should have lots of stuff.)
[17:46] <BrightAmbition> k
[17:48] <BrightAmbition> This is frustrating because the font is too small for me to read so i was gonna try just putting it thru my computer and copying it someplace else to make it bigger
[17:49] <akk> You can also scan at a higher resolution, or scale the image up in an image editing program, if the point is just to make it readable for you.
[17:49] <BrightAmbition> Is there any other way i could do that without OCR?
[17:49] <BrightAmbition> What would be a good image edition program?
[17:49] <akk> gimp
[17:49] <BrightAmbition> oops
[17:49] <BrightAmbition> editing
[17:50] <BrightAmbition> I hate when i make typos
[17:50] <BrightAmbition> akk: I tried gimp there's so much to gimp that it ovewelmes me i'm used to paintshop
[17:50] <BrightAmbition> *overwelmes
[17:50] <akk> There are simpler programs ... I'm kinda tied to gimp myself so I haven't used the simpler ones and can't compare them well.
[17:51] <BrightAmbition> Is there a way i could put it thru gimp then?
[17:51] <sn9> akk is the local expert on gimp. she's written books about it
[17:51] <akk> I know some of the basic image viewing programs can do things like scaling up and down.
[17:51] <akk> What program do you get if you just doubleclick on an image? Maybe whatever program that is can scale.
[17:51] <BrightAmbition> Like copy and paste from scanning
[17:51] <BrightAmbition> I just need to figure out how i make the font bigger in gimp then
[17:51] <BrightAmbition> Because gimp has a lot of things going on with it
[17:52] <akk> Image->Scale is how to make things bigger in GIMP.
[17:52] <BrightAmbition> I used to be good with gimp but haven't used it in a while
[17:52] <BrightAmbition> I used to edit my pictures on there
[17:53] <BrightAmbition> After i scale the document then what?
[17:54] <BrightAmbition> Is it possible to use different fonts after that?
[17:54] <BrightAmbition> Like exchange the old font with a new one
[17:55] <BrightAmbition> hello
[17:59] <akk> BrightAmbition: Please stop getting impatient if nobody answers you for 2 minutes.
[17:59] <akk> People may occasionally need to leave the keyboard for one reason or another.
[17:59] <BrightAmbition> oh sorry
[18:00] <akk> Pestering just irritates people and makes them not want to answer.
[18:00] <akk> No, you can't change font if you're working with an image.
[18:00] <akk> A scanned image is just pixels -- there's no information about the font or the text.
[18:00] <akk> That's what OCR is for, to take an image and turn it into text.
[18:21] <BrightAmbition> ok
[18:47] <BrightAmbition> hey aaditya
[18:47] <BrightAmbition> hey ryaxnb and mpontillo
[18:52] <BrightAmbition> wassup mark
[19:22] <sn9> i seem to have read the text with gscan2pdf and ocropus, but there appears to be no way to save it
[19:56] <sn9> any ideas?
[20:19] <akk> There's gotta be a way to save -- otherwise it wouldn't be useful.
[20:19] <sn9> i can't find a way
[20:21] <akk> Got a scan I can test with ocropus?
[20:21] <akk> And have you tried tesseract? When I installed ocropus it gave me a recommended package of tesseract-ocr
[20:22] <sn9> just import any graphic file into gscan2pdf
[20:22] <akk> and when I run tesseract it gives a usage statement that includes an output filename
[20:22] <akk> any graphic file even if it doesn't have text in it? That seems like a bad test.
[20:22] <sn9> tesseract cannot separate text from nontext in gscan2pdf, whereas ocropus reads line by line
[20:23] <sn9> i think ocropus is a fork of tesseract or something
[20:25] <akk> ha, tesseract gets a seg fault
[20:25] <sn9> cuneiform is the one that won't run for me
[20:26] <akk> I can't figure out how to run ocrscript (the only program ocropus installed).
[20:26] <sn9> gscan2pdf
[20:27] <akk> That wants to install 28 packages, so I'm not going to do that just to help test. :)
[20:27] <sn9> ah
[20:27] <akk> Besides, if I was scanning I wouldn't want PDF, I'd want something I could select and paste.
[20:28] <akk> tesseract is supposed to be the way to go ... if I were desperate to do OCR I'd probably get the latest tesseract from source, since the one on lucid dumps core.
[20:28] <sn9> seems ocropus is not a fork of tesseract but a wrapper for it
[20:28] <akk> I think there are also online sites that will ocr for you with tesseract.
[20:28] <akk> yes, it's a wrapper
[20:28] <akk> that makes it harder to use, AFAICT
[20:29] <akk> whatta deal!
[20:30] <sn9> manpage: "Natively,  Tesseract doesn't  do  layout analysis, but combined with OCRopus, it makes for a pretty good OCR system"
[21:32] <mpontillo> BrightAmbition, hello =) I am mostly idling... watching my kids etc
[21:33] <sn9> i ended up updating gscan2pdf from a ppa and it allowed me to save
[21:33] <mpontillo> oh I guess she's gone... now how do I tell xchat to show the dang user list
[21:33] <sn9> xchat shows it by default
[21:33] <mpontillo> I thought it did but I don't see it.
[21:34] <sn9> maybe you shrank it to zero size
[21:34] <mpontillo> ah there it is, it was all the way to the right such that it wasn't visible
[21:34] <sn9> try dragging it back from the right
[21:34] <mpontillo> thanks sn9, I don't remember doing that on purpose =)
[21:35] <mpontillo> I guess she is here, hehe. anyway - afk
[21:35] <sn9> right
[21:45] <BrightAmbition> ok i'm back
[21:45] <BrightAmbition> I've been trying to read over my lines
[21:45] <BrightAmbition> practicing for my monologue
[21:45] <BrightAmbition> oops
[21:46] <BrightAmbition> practicing for my theater class
[21:46] <rww> jyo_: I got your email, thanks :). I'm going to send out mine this evening.
[22:08] <BrightAmbition> sn9: I think i'm better with improv or method acting
[22:09] <BrightAmbition> sn9: I hate when they give lines to remember i want it to come naturally