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talbertJohhnnyyy_B, ubuntu is an os00:00
Johhnnyyy_Bos?00:00
escotttalbert, in that case I would just use network manager and click on disable network if you dont have a gui try nm-tool00:00
Airrisanyone for what i was saying? each time my friend has tried to remove something manually it's corrupted things. I'd... prefer not to do that :P00:00
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, more specifically it's an opensource linux/gnu distribution00:00
lapagaJohhnnyyy_B, it is not a program it is a whole OS like mac or windows00:01
mediaworkrinkukokiri: according to this my phenom is constantly above critical temp... AMD Phenom X4 (9550, 9650) 70°C00:01
Johhnnyyy_BOkay well, I dont have one of those big white macs or ... windows, I think i have that00:01
talbertescott, 'nm-tool'? not familiar with that one. i'll look it up.00:01
ancientpchey guys, I have a problem resuming a network upgrade00:01
Johhnnyyy_BIdk, i think i seen windows isstalled, isnt that the thing that plays when i turn on the hunk of junk?00:01
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, ubuntu can be install along side windows, within windows, or vise versa00:02
aguiteltalbert, both00:02
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, Alright, So like... okay, you keep telling me words I dont know >.<00:02
ancientpcI ssh'ed into a server and ran screen(byobu) running 10.04 to upgrade to 10.10.  Halfway through the setup (at samba comfiguration window) I lost connection.  When I log back in I can't see the setup windows anymore but I can still see it via ps aux | grep root, and there are locks.00:02
escotttalbert, but really ifconfig down should be enough to make sure no traffic is sent across that. its just that networkmanager may not play nice and bring the interface back up00:02
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, whats an os? a opensause linux/gn something disribution?00:02
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, and windows is the little 4 collored thing that shows when I turn the computer on right?00:03
Johhnnyyy_BThats also on the start button.00:03
escottancientpc, screen -list00:03
Johhnnyyy_BWait, isnt that microsoft?00:03
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, os- operating system i.e. Windows, Mac OS X, etc.00:03
rinkukokiribest way to check cpu temp??00:03
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, So its a computer right? Macs are computer. Thats about the only thing there i recognise00:03
ancientpcAnybody know how to resume a network upgrade that's at configuration windows?  Am I safe killing the process and running `dpkg --configure -a` or should I reboot the server?  Please keep in mind I'm 3000 mi away from the server right now.00:04
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, not exactly.00:04
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, a computer is hardware.00:04
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, an os is software.00:04
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, Yea cus you can touch it00:04
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, okay, so its software, like a program?00:04
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, yes.00:04
lapagaam thinking he is trolling00:04
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, So, how do i install it?00:05
escottancientpc, screen -r00:05
Airrislapaga : i was about to say as much. Either that or he's never going to get through the install process anyways, so it's not worth bothering00:05
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Johhnnyyy_Blapaga, Whoa whoa dude, play er cool. I aint from 4chan so no worries.00:05
Johhnnyyy_Blapaga, I'm just tryin to install this program, i didnt know how, so jeff told me go to xchat , freenode server , and type in the /join thing00:06
eamonhow do you install programs "make && make install" right? Or is there some configure of something before it? I can't remmeber00:06
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, So that is my question that i said, how do i install it?00:06
OerHeks!compile00:06
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)00:06
arckeydeHello00:06
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, dude? still there?00:07
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, hold on a sec00:07
Johhnnyyy_BAlright, thanks man00:07
FireStormsI'm having some trouble with my windows manager. I have to type metacity --replace every time I login. Is there a way to set it to default?00:07
arckeydeHackintech ?00:07
eamonit's ./configure first right?00:07
Hackintechhello?00:07
eamondoes anyone know?00:07
arckeydeHello00:07
arckeydehow are you ?00:07
Airrisbut seriously, can anyone help with figuring out how to remove something not in synaptic? I'm torn between two bad ideas : either trying to go into bin with root access and remove whatever looks like it belongs to this thing : or install the same thing from source over again with check install and hope it just overwrites and then i can remove it through synaptic that way.00:07
escottAirris, make uninstall is best if you installed via make install00:08
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download00:08
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Airrisescott, it looks like the folder i installed it from is gone, which is the problem00:09
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, Alright dude, So this program thing, whats it do? my buds computer lookeed sweet, is that what it dose?00:09
unixclubhousethat may or may not work, look at the script00:09
escottAirris, if you can download the original tarball you can ./configure it again and then make uninstall00:09
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Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, i was alredy there, i pressed download and got the thing... now what do i do, i cliked on it, it wont run00:09
Airrisescott, thanks : going with that then :D00:09
talbertJohhnnyyy_B, it's a program. windows is just a program that is used by a computer too.00:09
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Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, yea but like, how do i make it run00:10
escottAirris, if that doesn't work I would manually cleanup prior to trying to install through apt, otherwise you won't know which files are apts and which are the old manual installs00:10
talbertJohhnny_B, follow the instructions on that page. read a lot on wikis too.00:10
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, you know when you download things like ... uh whats it called, nortin or whatever the hell i payed 50 bucks for, it ran when i clicked on it00:10
Airrisescott, i'm hoping the first thing will work, but any guidelines on manually cleaning up? Where am i looking other than bin?00:10
Johhnnyyy_Btalbert, ahh, inscrutions... they are for wimps and women man.00:10
mewayWhat is the command to rename from terminal Every fille at once00:11
mewayI want to take the extention .example off of the file names00:11
rinkukokiriJohhnnyyy_B, aaah norton.. the epitome of horrible applications00:11
talbertJohhnny_B, it seems like you're fairly inexperienced with this stuff. so am i but i'm trying to contribute just like everyone else.00:11
escottAirris, what program was this? also after make you should see a rudimentary structure of what it would place in your folders and you can locate those files and remove them00:11
Frettawhats a good remote backup tool to use for ubuntu lucid server?00:11
Johhnnyyy_Balright, well ill read em, peace00:11
Airrisescott, wesnoth :P It's not updated in launchpad after release, so when a new version comes out, time to compile from source. and I see. downloading the tarball now00:12
pfifoFretta, i think rsync over ssh will take care of everything for you00:12
NictraSaviosHey Hackintech , your on?!00:12
Airriswill find out how much i can do when it finishes00:12
Hackintech:)00:12
NictraSaviosI was i #archlinux all day man :P00:12
escott!backup | Fretta00:12
ubottuFretta: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning00:12
Frettapfifo yeah am thinking of using rsync thnx for the tip00:12
Frettaubottu thnx for those links will check these00:13
ubottuFretta: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:13
Frettahehe00:13
NictraSaviosHackintech, Sadly i need to reinstall. I screwed it up with kde00:13
pfifoFretta, those are probbally all gui front ends fr rsync ;)00:13
Hackintechlol NictraSavios00:13
escottAirris, in that case most of its resources will be in /usr/share/games with a few icons in /usr/share/icons and some other random desktop places. if you fail to remove it completely you may end up with some extra startup menu items for it00:14
bezaohi, i have an ubuntu-server under a vbox, and i formated my windows. now i added the ubuntu vbox again and, when i start up the ubuntu, it doesnt know the eth0. i have it on mode bridge.00:14
talbertbezao, wouldn't you want it on "gateway"00:15
bezaoi didn not udnerstood sorry00:16
AirrisOk. really hoping that make uninstall works but I know where to look if it doesn't, thanks00:17
talbertbezao, is there a reason you are using server edition?00:17
bezaoyes i run test services there, the i put on production ubuntu server00:17
talbertbezao, wireless or ethernet?00:18
bezaoethernet00:18
bezaoi saw it with ifconfig-a, it's named eth100:18
bezaohow can i make it back to eth0 to work, or make it work as eth100:18
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Airrisoh, one side question. the package files checkinstall makes. Is saving them sufficient to be able to uninstall later, or do i have to keep the whole source folder?00:20
Goliathhey00:20
Maylowgoodbye folks00:20
Goliathif i get a 64bit version of ubuntu and try to run it at a 32bit processor pc, does it freeze?00:21
AirrisGoliath : most likely00:21
escottGoliath, it wont boot00:21
pfifobezao, im pretty use there is options for upto 4 different NIC cards in the settings dialouge, it looks like since you reinstalled windows it setup a new eth1 and left the eth0 in place.00:21
rinkukokiriGoliath, only processors that are only 32 bit are like.. old pentium 4's and prior00:21
DarkenvyCannot display location "sftp://admin@fathership.dynalias.com/" Host key verification failed00:22
pfifobezao, im pretty SURE there is options for upto 4 different NIC cards in the settings dialouge, it looks like since you reinstalled windows it setup a new eth1 and left the OLD eth0 in place.00:22
Airrisrinkukokiri, there's a lot of those still around... :D00:22
DarkenvyI get that when trying to ssh from the "connect to server" tool00:22
Darkenvyalthough filzilla can connect no problem00:22
rinkukokiriAirris, well i better get on my mission of fryin em all :D00:22
escottDarkenvy, do a normal ssh connect on the command line. the host key may have changed00:23
Darkenvyhow can I purge the key?00:23
DarkenvyI am connecting this way SO I have a visual00:23
lolmaticwhat up chumps00:23
Airrisrinkukokiri, there's still uses for them! I'm collecting ones people have gotten rid of for a beowulf ^_^00:23
DarkenvyI am always SSHed form terminal but I want the visualness00:23
SolomonKullDarkenvy: rm .ssh/somewhereraskeyisnamed/tehfile  look for that00:23
escottDarkenvy, just ssh admin@fathership... and it will give you a nasty warning if the remotes ssh key has changed00:23
rinkukokirilol00:23
Darkenvyescott it does not give me a warning ata ll00:24
NictraSaviosOh00:24
NictraSaviosI forgot00:24
rinkukokiriwell guise, off to minecraft.. hopefully i don't lock up again00:24
NictraSaviosI came in here to find Jonny, Did johnb come in here?00:24
escottDarkenvy, ok so what does it say then00:24
NictraSaviosor johnyb , whatever username00:24
Darkenvybut I find it odd because filezilla can connect, my macbook can connect and on my old VPS I could connect using this method, but not from this computer now00:24
Darkenvyescott it says nothing and I can connect no problem while SSH from terminal00:25
AirrisNictraSavios, he left already00:25
SolomonKullDarkenvy: rm .ssh/known_hosts00:25
SolomonKullThen try to log back in00:25
SolomonKullIt will generate a new key00:25
Darkenvythis worked!00:26
Darkenvywhat happened btw?00:26
NictraSaviosAirris, Dang it... my friend told him about ubuntu, then he asked me for help, I said go here, Now Idk what hes doing.00:26
DarkenvyI am able to sftp on the gui if I put in the IP but not the dynamic alias00:26
Darkenvy*was able to only log in using the IP, not the dynamic alias00:26
NictraSaviosAirris, Did anyone tell him off or anything? I want to know before i call him lmao. So I know if hes ticked.00:26
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AirrisNictraSavios, ...maybe? We tried to help him for a while then i think the guy helping gave up, and two of us were wondering if he's a troll :P00:27
escottDarkenvy, maybe sftp has its own directory try .sftp?00:27
SolomonKullDarkenvy: is it a local IP?  I bet DHCP assigned a different IP than last time, which triggered ssh to say "hold the hell on, this might be a different system. Fix it"00:27
pfifoDarkenvy, you should learn to just use scp rsync and ssh from cli, save your self headaches, and become a bit more elite in the4 process00:27
escottDarkenvy, thats because it doesnt reverse dns the ip so it doesn't realize they are the same host00:27
Darkenvywoah lots of replies00:28
Darkenvyokay first off I KNOW how to push and pull from terminal00:28
Darkenvysecondly, I use that daily. but seeing my minecraft server visually with thousands of files is a luxery00:28
NictraSaviosAirris, No... Hes just stupid.00:28
Darkenvy2ply toilet paper > 1ply sandpaper00:29
AirrisNictraSavios, :D00:29
Darkenvysimple math :)00:29
NictraSaviosAirris, Im on the phone with him. He still thinks its like an .exe00:29
lapagaand also the same ip00:29
rhin0.exe's don't run natively00:29
Darkenvyand ah yes escott that seems to be why00:29
rhin0they're 'elf'00:30
rhin0binaries00:30
NictraSaviosrhin0 Hes on windows, trying to install ubuntu. He thinks its a program00:30
pfifoNictraSavios, careful hes obivously having trouble adapting, If you dont handle it right you may push him away from ubuntu00:30
escottDarkenvy, I think the problem is with whatever gui you are using for sftp. it must be caching the key wrong/maybe not realizing this is a dynamic dns host00:30
rhin0maybe you should show him windows running within openbox on ubuntu NictraSavios00:30
Darkenvyits fine now though00:30
Darkenvythanks escott00:30
* Darkenvy leaves00:31
escottDarkenvy, if it happens again see if you can use the sftp command line tool, but ssh doesn't mind dyndns00:31
NictraSaviosHes that kid thats almost in the "special" person class, but he stayed out by 1-2 IQ points.00:32
NictraSaviosSo it wont be easy.00:32
NictraSavios:P00:32
pfifowow this is the weirdest thing ever, my system refuses to use memory thats available00:33
rinkukokirilol playing minecraft my gpu goes from mid 60's to 9600:35
bAdLuCklol00:35
ActionParsniprinkukokiri: same00:35
pfiforinkukokiri, frame limit00:36
rinkukokirinot worried about it, my gpu is rated past 12000:36
* pfifo gpu is rated over 900000:36
rinkukokiriand as long as my cpu don't get around 100 im fine00:37
bAdLuCkminecraft can get crazy like that sometimes haha00:37
pfifoi wonder how bad it will chrash xbawks00:38
rinkukokiriinstant rrod00:38
bAdLuCklol00:38
pfifomv minecraft.jar rrod-creator.jar00:39
intel_ixDoes anyone know how to get open CL configured for ati 6950, on ubuntu 10.10?00:39
pfifointel_ix, first get HW acceleration working, then opencl sould 'just work'00:40
intel_ixSeems the proprietary driver is in "compatibility mode" and isn't loading it, how would I go about that?00:40
pfifo!ati | intel_ix00:40
ubottuintel_ix: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:40
Core_UKIs there a bug with 11.04 and nvidia geforce 8800gts drivers?00:42
intel_ixI end up getting "ATI Technologies Inc Device 6719", is this normal considering I bought a supposedly 6950?00:42
pfifoCore_UK, yes00:43
KimLarouxCore_UK, why do you ask? do you have problems?00:44
Core_UKKimLaroux: I have used ubuntu from 8ish til 10.10 and no issues with gfx drivers. in 11.04 I have issues00:45
MrElendigCore_UK: what issues exactly?00:46
ActionParsnipCore_UK: just install nvidia-current and it should run well00:46
NictraSaviosOkay, can I have some help? How do i word "burn it on a dvd, and then put it in the computer and reboot" very simply00:46
eamonhow do I know if my computer is AMD64 or IA64?00:46
NictraSaviosLike I mean, super simple.00:46
lolmaticeamon: it is amd6400:46
eamonlolmatic: how do you know?00:46
lolmaticbecause you dont know00:46
pfifoNictraSavios, one step at a time00:46
ActionParsnipNictraSavios: "Use your CD burning software to burn the ISO to a DVD. Once completed reboot the system and select the DVD as the bootable media"00:47
eamonlolmatic: there are 2 vewrsions of the source code. AMD64 and IA64, how do you know I'm AMD64?00:47
KimLarouxCore_UK, I have a serious issue too, just curious if we share the same... what's the problem you get?00:47
NictraSaviosActionParsnip, In words a grade 3 would understand?00:47
escotteamon, how many millions did it cost. if its less than 5 its not IA6400:47
eamonok00:47
NictraSaviosActionParsnip, He may be in grade 10... but sometimes im not sure.00:47
dsnydersWhat is the easiest way to get my computer to play a sound in fifteen minutes?00:48
pfifoeamon, if you have an Itanium you would know00:48
ActionParsnipeamon: if you want to know if your cpu is IA64 or AMD64 you will need:  cat /proc/cpuinfo      and you can websearch to see what it is. The amd64 ISO will run on both00:48
escotteamon, ia64 is itanium. check for "lm" in the flags part of cpuinfo to see if it is amd6400:48
earthmeLonThere are many posts saying how to delete the last gnome-panel panel, but none of them are working for me.  Any suggestions?  11.04 Gnome 'Classic'00:48
Core_UKMrElendig: The proprietary GUI program shows that I have the drivers but they are not active, I then cannot boot the computer, I have to use failsafe and reset graphics00:48
ActionParsnipNictraSavios: then you will need to break it down, you could go as far as to specify the burning app (if you know it)00:48
Core_UKMrElendig: I do not do anything different to what I do in 10.10 and below00:48
NictraSaviosActionParsnip, Yea... this could take a while00:49
ActionParsnipCore_UK: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig     and reboot00:49
escottearthmeLon, just remove gnome-panel from gnome-session-properties if you dont want a panel00:49
ActionParsnipNictraSavios: could just post the DVD you burn yourself ;)00:49
pfifoCore_UK, you need to add 'nomodeset' to the boot options, kernel and X are in the midst of changing things00:49
NictraSaviosActionParsnip, yea, ugh well I g2g00:49
brian2898do most people use unity?00:49
NictraSaviosC yahs, time for the uh.... fun00:49
earthmeLonescott, I do not see gnome-panel listed in gnome-sessions-properties00:50
eamonThe processor is an intel Xeon is that AMD64?00:50
lolmaticyes00:50
pfifobrian2898, http://popcon.ubuntu.com/00:50
escotteamon, most likely unless it is i686/32bit00:50
pfifoeamon, xeon != itanium00:51
ActionParsnipbrian2898: its speculative00:51
escotteamon, itanium is an exotic architecture that is only used in a small number of super expensive servers. ignore anything you see about it00:51
ActionParsnipitanium was garbage00:52
dsnydersHi all!  Neither clicking nor right clicking on the time allows me to set an alarm.  How do I get my computer to play a sound at a specific time?00:52
pfifoActionParsnip, it had to start somewhere00:52
MrElendigdsnyders: at00:52
escottearthmeLon, and you are logged into a classic session right now?00:52
vecexpensive garbage that is00:52
ActionParsnippfifo: i guess00:52
earthmeLonYes, indeed I am, escott00:52
Core_UKpfifo: what will that do?00:52
vecdoes running amd64 ubuntu bring any speed advantage, no?00:53
ActionParsnipvec: yeah addon the cost of the rambus ram you had to use and you got a hunk of expensive junk00:53
grmrgeckoAnyone know how to manually boot from lilo shell?00:53
ActionParsnipvec: 64bit ubuntu excells in some areas like audio and video encoding :)00:53
MrElendigvec: depends on what apps you are running00:53
tumbes2000Anyone else have the nvidia 'installed but not active error'00:53
pfifoCore_UK, it will stop the kernel for using its new framebuffer mode setting features and allow nvidia andX to do it instead00:53
ActionParsniptumbes2000: Core_UK does :(00:53
MrElendigtumbes2000: disabled kms?00:54
jimmieThis will sound like a terribly trivial question, but my pendrive and 150gb file system appear on the desktop00:54
jimmieHow can I make them, not?00:54
escottearthmeLon, ohhh i see the problem it now only shows those "additional session applications" not the core ones. you may want to design your own custom session type in /etc/gdm if you want gnome without a panel00:54
tumbes2000Kms?00:54
escottearthmeLon, if it won't let you delete the last one00:54
ActionParsnipjimmie: its a gconf setting00:54
escottearthmeLon, another approach that may not work would be to setup the session as you like, then kill-all gnome-panel; gnome-session-save00:55
ActionParsnipjimmie: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/hide-removable-drive-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/00:55
dsnydersMrElendig, so  at +15 mplayer ding.wav ?00:55
MrElendigdsnyders: that is one way :)00:55
tumbes2000I as00:55
MrElendigdsnyders: there are some fancy gui alarm apps too00:55
pfifotumbes2000, you need to blacklist nouveau drivers00:55
tumbes2000All it shows are the nvidia properitery drivers, no nouveau00:56
dsnydersMrElendig, In my opinion, there should be one built into the time display on the task bar.00:56
Core_UKpfifo: so do you think it is an issue with the new kernel, could I test this using the liveCD first before upgrading (does that allow you to set boot options?)00:56
Airrishuzzah uninstalled succesfully!00:56
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MrElendigdsnyders: some of the gui ones will give you a icon in the systray00:56
tumbes2000Pfifo-how?00:56
th0rdsnyders: I install sox, which gives me the play command, which is more 'transparent' than mplayer00:57
earthmeLonI'm starting to decide gnome is poorly designed, escott00:57
pfifotumbes2000, `sudo echo "nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf`00:57
ActionParsnipearthmeLon: there are lots of alternatives00:57
pfifoCore_UK, 11.04 CD allows for nomodeset, press f6 at the bootsplash00:58
ActionParsnippfifo: 1. sudo doesn't transcend the >> characters.   2. blacklist.conf already has text and it will be overwritten00:58
earthmeLonGoing to look into something a little more lightweight and simple.  And something isn't forced to use nautilus.00:58
escottearthmeLon, if it let you remove the last panel, and someone did that by accident, would you complain that its poorly designed because you have to run gnome-panel or remove some folders to make it come back?00:58
Core_UKpfifo: many thanks, I will try this :)00:58
tumbes2000The nvidia driver issue is listed as a bug on launchpad and is assigned00:59
pfifotumbes2000, sorry run this as root `echo "nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf`00:59
* Airris is going to head out, thanks escott00:59
ValentinianHi. Can someone please help me with this? (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down00:59
MrElendigpfifo: echo "blacklist whateveryouneed" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/mycustomblacklist.conf  or sudo bash -c 'echo blacklist whateveryouwant >> /etc/modprobe.d/mycustomblacklist.conf', or what said earlier01:00
risboo6909sudo?01:00
ValentinianIt's when I restart apache201:00
pfifotumbes2000, upstream will repair it, expect regression01:00
ActionParsnippfifo: I suggest you read the layout of a blacklist file01:00
ActionParsnippfifo: you on't name the modules. You need to add:  blacklist nouveau01:00
risboo6909Valentinian, use sudo01:00
ActionParsnippfifo: not just: nouveau01:00
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pfifoActionParsnip, NO U!!!!!!01:00
ActionParsnip?01:01
Valentinianlol, thanks! :)01:01
risboo6909:)01:01
risboo6909np01:01
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earthmeLonActionParsnip, Where would be a good place to find alternatives and (most importantly) how to make the switch?  Keywords to google would be helpful :D01:01
tumbes2000Upstream?01:01
dsnydersThanks all!01:02
ActionParsnipearthmeLon: switch what?01:02
escottearthmeLon, use straight x with a window manager of your choice, fluxbox etc01:02
th0rearthmeLon: install xfce4 and lxde...see if one of those two fits your needs01:03
earthmeLonThat's the goal, escott.  Mostly confused about how to go about 'using straight x with a window manager'01:03
ActionParsnipearthmeLon: try:  Linux desktop environments. Could try KDE, LXDE. Or just use WM with straight X using OpenBox, Fluxbox etc01:03
MrElendigearthmeLon: you could also give a tiler a spinn, eg xmonad01:03
earthmeLonThanks guys :D01:03
escottearthmeLon, follow th0r's suggestion. installing most stand-alone wms will create a new session option you can access from the login screen01:03
ValentinianCan you please tell me why this returns "Not working"  in browser? http://pastebin.com/iJpim9cn01:04
earthmeLonAhh, easymode th0r escott01:04
ActionParsnipearthmeLon: there are lots of alternatives to gnome, you'll find them easily01:04
tumbes2000Actip01:05
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th0rearthmeLon: install xfce4 and lxde, then at the login screen you can choose which you want to use in the Session menu01:06
Darkenvyso If I see ">killed" what does this mean?01:06
tumbes2000Actionparsnip - should I just wait for the bug to be corrected01:06
Darkenvydoes this mean my VPS is killing my processes?01:06
th0rearthmeLon: by installing others, you don't lose your gnome install...it will still be available if you want it01:06
jcnetoValentian the function mysql_connect returns a resource not a boolean01:06
jcnetohttp://php.net/mysql_connect01:06
risboo6909jcneto, i think it's ok to check if resource is not null01:08
grmrgeckoGot it working01:08
grmrgeckothanks for nothing I guess:P01:08
risboo6909Valentinian, do u have phpMyAdmin installed?01:08
pfifoValentinian, no but you can, call 'mysql_error()"01:08
TrosHow do I enable file-sharing in Ubuntu?01:09
Valentinianrisboo6909: I have phpmyadmin. and it works01:09
escott!samba | Tros01:09
ubottuTros: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.01:09
TrosThat is: Past the system settings panel in Gnome, it's asking me to install MOAR packages.01:09
TrosThanks!01:09
Valentinianpfifo: I don't understand what u want to say01:09
pfifoValentinian, http://pastebin.com/0t8Kk3c601:10
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escottrisboo6909, try running the code in php -i01:11
escottValentinian, ^^ not risboo690901:11
TrosEscott: This is all about getting Ubuntu to recognize shares. I want to HOST shares. Specifically through the system settings already offered to me via OOB installation.01:11
escottTros, same thing you will need to install samba server (if you are sharing to windows)01:12
Trosescott: I've already installed Samba, the control panel still says I need more software.01:12
qinThat's nice.01:12
pfifoTros, all you need is 'smbfs and samba'01:13
TrosWEll, not the 3rd party Samba GUI ;#01:13
escottTros, a gui might pull in more things, but if you wanted you could manually configure it in /etc01:13
Valentinianescott: , pfifo , thanks for help, I got it figured out. I didn;t knew that lampserver means the mysql password in that php code. risboo6909 helped me figure it out. Thanks alot! :)01:13
Trosescott, pfifo: Installing those packages now. I just wanted to keep a minimalistic system and not have 3 guis for one service, and none of them integrate with eachother ;/.01:14
jtreminioHi all. I know this isn't ubuntu-specific, but does anyone know how to map the Super Key to open GNOME Do? Super Key without any other button (Like Super + Space)01:17
escott!ccsm | jtreminio if it is unity or has effects01:18
ubottujtreminio if it is unity or has effects: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz01:18
jtreminioescott: Sorry, I'm not using Unity but the classic Gnome desktop.01:18
escottjtreminio, if it is classic or has no effects try gconf-editor and find the metacity keybindings01:18
ActionParsnipjtreminio: https://answers.launchpad.net/do/+question/3215401:22
pfifowhy is flash playerr turning grey and not playing my youtube?01:23
jtreminioActionParsnip: Thanks ... I may simply go with Gnome3 instead. Is gnome3 on Ubuntu 11.04 stable?01:23
ActionParsnipjtreminio: np01:24
ActionParsnipno its not stable01:24
ActionParsnip!gnome301:24
ubottuGnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and cannot be downgraded safely.01:24
cipher__cipher@pandora ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin | grep chrom01:25
cipher__lrwxrwxrwx 1 root   root          32 2011-06-07 02:56 google-chrome -> /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome01:25
cipher__cipher@pandora ~ $ sudo dpkg -r google-chrome01:25
cipher__dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove google-chrome which isn't installed.01:25
cipher__Hi i am having trouble uninstalling chrome?01:25
rinkukokiri!pastebin | cipher__01:25
ubottucipher__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:25
cipher__sorry, i thought it was two lines:(01:26
rinkukokirilol01:26
Flannelcipher__: You didn't install it through package management.  Therefore you cannot remove it through package management.  How did you install it?01:26
cipher__no idea :/01:26
escottcipher__, the ubuntu package is chromium not chrome. that you have google-chrome means it was a non-apt install just rm -rf it01:26
rinkukokiriescott, there /is/ a deb for google chrome found on their site though01:27
cipher__okay01:27
escottrinkukokiri, good point... cipher__ see if that deb was used01:27
ActionParsnipescott: it's chromium-browser01:27
ActionParsnipescott: chrome is a game ;)01:27
cipher__chromium is a game too01:28
ActionParsnipcipher__: so it is01:28
rinkukokirihttp://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?platform=linux   says it adds the repo though so you should be able to issue a sudo apt-get remove google-chrome  /if/ it was installed from the deb there01:30
bAdLuCksudo apt-get purge google-chrome01:32
studentzhi there I messed up my wireless  Please Help meeee ;)01:32
pfifon/m I fixed my own flash problems, without even using google01:32
centHOGGsur01:33
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Guest20498Hi, a quick question. Is it possible to bond two mobile connections in Ubuntu? I have two mobiles with two different providers and was wondering if I can combine the bandwidth from the two?01:35
puffWhen I unplug my laptop, it says the battery is at 14%.  When I plug it in, it says the battery is fully charged.  Is that preventing it from charging the battery more? How do I fix this?01:36
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puffGuest19452: I've seen channel bonding on land lines done with a debian box, dunno about doing it with mobile on an ubuntu box.01:36
ArbitRabbitHmm, yes... it is possible with ethernet I know.. but I have two ppp connections01:37
escottstudentz, you need to be more specific01:37
rhin0need the live cd run to use classic view -- can 't use this new desktop01:38
studentzHi there lspci does not show my wireless.01:38
rhin0how do you get the live cd to use the CLASSIC not the silly new desktop01:38
pfifoArbitRabbit, you can bond any 2 connections together, the part im unsure of is if ubuntus kernel supports bonding01:38
ArbitRabbitah okay...wasn't sure if it worked for virtual connections. I thought Ubuntu kernels after 10.04 supported bonding01:39
pfiforhin0, what CD are you refering to?01:39
volkswagnerGreetings folks01:39
rhin0the live cd 11.04 kicks into the new  desktop01:39
rhin0how do I get the classic desktop so I can use it01:40
pfifo!classic | rhin001:40
ubotturhin0: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".01:40
volkswagnerOriginal problem: how can I show in menu "shutdown" and "Reboot" options running LXDE on Ubuntu 11.04 minimal?  Usually in Debian I add user to powerdev group, but this group does not even exist for 11.0401:40
rhin0you can't log out of a live01:40
rhin0it just boots into whatever01:40
rhin0its not user based01:40
pfiforhin0, you can log out01:40
rhin0it logs back into the samke thing01:40
pfiforhin0, no password01:40
volkswagnerUpdate:  I have been able to get root user to get the shutdown, reboot options by installing policykit-1-gnome, but I'm still at a loss on how to get a normal user with sudo priv's to get the shutdown options01:41
pfiforhin0, than im not sure01:41
studentzescott I have a starling netbook from system 76, my wireless worked perfectly, but when I disabled with fn f11 It did come back again01:41
rhin0ok how do I get synaptic from the new desktop01:41
rhin0why didn't they just leave it alone01:41
ActionParsniprhin0: run:  gksudo synaptic01:42
rhin0ok thanks01:42
ActionParsniprhin0: you can also find it if you type it in dash01:42
escottstudentz, and you cant activate the wireless in network manager01:42
studentzescott nope01:43
rinkukokirirhin0, i agree.01:43
studentzescott lspci does not show the wireless device01:43
escottstudentz, what kind of wireless is it01:44
studentzescott I guess realink ?01:44
escottstudentz, i would say rmmod the driver and then modprobe it again, but I don't know exactly what it would be. try modprobe ralink01:45
escottstudentz, the fact that it doesn't show up in lspci is odd...01:45
studentzescott  yep I agree totally.01:46
forevertheunihi i'm trying to make a deb, I modified my changelog but I have this error: parsechangelog/debian: warning:     debian/changelog(l5): found eof where expected first heading01:47
rhin0well thats it im stuffed because of the new desktop01:48
rhin0the assumption that eveyrone wants something01:48
rhin0its UNUSEABLE01:48
rhin0its looking like a windows approach01:48
rhin0inflict a new approach on the users -- they all have to retrain themselves01:49
dijonyummy123is there some program for linux similar to easy mp3 downloader01:49
th0rrhin0: why not install either xubuntu or lubuntu and then install gnome desktop from there?01:49
rhin0why should I have to?01:49
Co_HI am using ubuntru 10.10 and the speakers don't seem to work.01:49
Co_HAlthough it works in Windows01:49
Co_HHow do I fix it01:49
studentzescott   modprobe ralink : no module found it01:49
simpleblue01:51
Josesordohello all01:51
centHOGGh01:52
dijonyummy123if you guys have ntfs partitions where you store a lot of data. do you usually store files directy to the ntfs. or store to ext4. then later move to ntfs. i wonder because i see that my cpu usage is high, and i see that process "mount-ntfs-3g" is using a lot of it. is ntfs file operations efficient in ubuntu? is it just a small penalty vs ext4 or a big penalty?01:52
JosesordoHow to run Ares in Ubuntu/xubuntu using the last version of WineHQ?01:52
escottdijonyummy123, you are seeing more of the cpu usage because it is userspace not kernel01:53
escottdijonyummy123, but whatever inefficiency cannot be less than that caused by writing the file to two places01:53
saphireHey guys.01:54
* volkswagner is so sad to be beyond help :(01:55
centHOGGh01:55
saphireA few months back when 10.10 was new, people were having issues getting vmware products installed because of a problem with the kernel patches used in the distro.01:55
saphireDid anyone find fixes for this?01:56
studentzescott  modprobe ralink FATAL: Module ralink not found.01:56
escottstudentz, i'm afraid i dont know what the module name will be01:56
escott!xy | Adidas01:56
ubottuAdidas: The XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned.01:56
studentzescott any suggestion. ?01:56
rhin0im trying debian01:57
centHOGGheh01:57
escottstudentz, not really. does it work after a cold reboot01:57
Hilikushey guys01:57
AdidasEscott: nice...01:58
studentzescott, if cold means after shutdown for more than  hour, then it does not work01:58
dijonyummy123yeah but if i later move to ntfs, at least i can batch that when i'm not heavily using the pc. just curious how efficient ntfs operations are vs ext401:58
escottstudentz, well cold as in full halt and poweroff for at least a second or two01:58
Hilikusis it possible to stream youtube to a DLNA tv? i can do it in my android phone but i don;t know how to do it from ubuntu.01:59
dijonyummy123if anyone has an idea. i'm not sure i could benchmark correctly01:59
studentzescott it does not work after full shutdown.01:59
escottstudentz, im not at all sure why that would happen01:59
pfifodijonyummy123, ntfs is made fore a single user OS while ext is made for multi user OS02:00
zulgabanhi02:00
escottdijonyummy123, if you want to benchmark try bonnie++ or any of the other benchmarks, but you would have to be streaming very quickly to have your cpu limiting your disk writes02:01
leftisthttp://pastebin.com/qbmMU8nB Can someone look at this and tell me where i can find this directory so i can chmod it?02:01
studentzescott I like the netbook, and more that it has Ubuntu, but I need my wireless on.02:01
mieowww1483 chatters... wow.02:02
talbertmouse related question. when in a browser on a wheel click a 4 arrow d-pad should come up. when i jumped to ubuntu from ms i lost that ability. how can i fix this.02:02
mieowwwDoes Ubuntu auto-log in every user on boot here? :)02:02
mieowwwhttp://www.sanedrivel.com/article/4679/why-i-a-geek-prefer-windows-7-and-freebsd-over-linux02:02
simplebluemany will miew02:02
jim_hello guys! Need some help with "evolution" email integration into unity. I am not seeing an option after I right click a file and click on 'send to' to use evolution as a 'send as' option... anyway to configure that to be the case?02:02
saphireleftist: where did that come up?  What were you trying to install?02:03
escottleftist, what package is that02:03
leftisti am trying to install Phreesoft's Phreedom02:03
leftistit is a php based accounting system like intuits02:04
escotttalbert, i dont think it draws that dpad but it should function the same way02:04
saphireleftist: web based?02:04
leftisti saphire yes02:04
leftistit is awesome02:04
saphireIf it is, then you would want to check your httpd.conf and find out what the root directory for that site is.02:04
* jim_ wonders if everyone is sleeping!02:04
leftistahh ok saphire02:05
saphireIn side there you should find ./includes etc....02:05
leftistthat is what i was looking for02:05
leftistthanks brb02:05
saphirenp02:05
earthmeLonDisable touchpad while typing does *NOT* work.  Edge scrolling/Two-finger scrolling also do not work.   How can I troubleshoot this issue?02:06
AgentGreenhi everyone02:06
talbertescott, it doesn't for me. you know what i'm referring to, right? it accelerates the page in the direction that you move the mouse. also, what do you call this function?02:06
ValentinianHi. I've managed to install ubuntu server 11.04, phpmyadmin, install a functional webserver (joomla cms working fine) on localhost. But how can I access the machine from putty, or evan on browser? http://ip.adress/joomla works fine from the server machine, but not from the internet02:08
jim_nvm, solved it. thanks for all the non help. ciao!02:09
Gorilla_No_Bakahello gents02:09
centHOGGinstall ssh02:09
Valentinianerm, http://localhost/joomla works, http://ip.address/joomla doesnt work02:09
ValentiniancentHOGG: I have ssh installed, but don't know how to make it work02:10
centHOGGok, can you ping your server from a client?02:10
ValentiniancentHOGG: nope02:11
centHOGGok02:11
Gorilla_No_Bakai got s little problem with skype on ubuntu 11.04 when i try starting a video call that is to say to send my camera it freezes my whole  laptop to the point where i have to reboot it from the power button in order to be able to use the computer again... ANy ideas why it happens like that? I remember on jakalope and maverick i did not have this type of problems02:11
Gorilla_No_Baka10x02:11
centHOGGcan you ifconfig-a that server from a cmd line02:11
talbertescott, it doesn't for me. you know what i'm referring to, right? it accelerates the page in the direction that you move the mouse. also, what do you call this function?02:11
escotttalbert, yeah i've had it before too. is it in about:config02:12
ValentiniancentHOGG: meaning?02:12
talbertescott, do you know which variable it is. i've looked and haven't had any success.02:13
centHOGGpm me02:13
plustaxAnyone know of a reason mp4 files wouldnt be playing on my nook color? Android/linux based.02:13
plustaxRunning cyanogenmod 702:13
Gorilla_No_Bakaanyone?02:14
AgentGreenplustax what media player are you using?02:14
talbertescott, also, i thought it was mouse driver related because it's a cross browser problem.02:14
plustaxAgentGreen, tried stock, rockplayer and QQ02:15
escotttalbert, i dont think so. the browser can react to buttons however it would like02:15
Gorilla_No_Bakai got s little problem with skype on ubuntu 11.04 when i try starting a video call that is to say to send my camera it freezes my whole  laptop to the point where i have to reboot it from the power button in order to be able to use the computer again... ANy ideas why it happens like that? I remember on jakalope and maverick i did not have this type of problems any ideas? Thanks!!02:16
leftistthis is a novice question but i have to ask it anyway...there is more than 1 includes directory yes?02:16
escottleftist, yes02:17
earthmeLonDisable touchpad while typing does *NOT* work.  Edge scrolling/Two-finger scrolling also do not work.   How can I troubleshoot this issue?  xinput shows AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint02:18
talbertescott, you mean it's coincidence that neither firefox nor chrome have it on ubuntu?02:18
leftistok i figured as much.02:18
escottGorilla_No_Baka, you could try and use an LD preload to see if your camera is the problem02:18
AgentGreen@plustax hmm it should although i know that mp4 is just a container file so they way it may be encoded may not be compatible. it should play mp4s02:18
plustaxAgentGreen, any way to find out and adjust the encoding?02:18
AgentGreenyou may have to reencode it. vlc usually does it well, handbrake ive heard works too02:19
plustaxI can encode with vlc?02:19
escotttalbert, which button is it in windows02:19
AgentGreenyeah in vlc usually Media > Convert/Save >02:19
plustaxAgentGreen, mind walking me through it?02:19
plustaxokay.02:19
plustaxwhat do I convert/save it as?02:20
Gorilla_No_Bakaescott: i got an UVC logitech problem.. the camera is working perfect on mac freebsd and all the linux flavours i have tried so far.. never had any problems with this camera before..is AFTER i send the camera skype freezes my computer.02:20
AgentGreenpretty self explanatory, same container, mp4 but try adjusting / playing / fiddling with the settings02:20
huma777Greetings, can I get some assistance in restoring the menu/titlebar thingy in ubunty?02:20
escottGorilla_No_Baka, well skype sidesteps v4l2 which can cause problems02:20
Gorilla_No_Bakaescott: i got an UVC logitech camera no problems from here.. the camera is working perfect on mac freebsd and all the linux flavours i have tried so far.. never had any problems with this camera before..is AFTER i send the camera skype freezes my computer.02:20
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: does it work in cheese?02:21
escottyou might try using LD_PRELOAD to force it to use v4l202:21
Gorilla_No_BakaActionParsnip: likea charm02:21
AgentGreen@plustax if its just audio you can convert just audio if you do need it, try h264 or some other types they list there02:21
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: skype is a pain in the ass, it mkes stuff that actually works, cause issues02:21
plustaxAgentGreen, it says destination file. Should I just call it transformers.mp4?02:21
plustaxAgentGreen, it wont play it altogether/02:22
leftistisnt this the correct syntax for www directory? chmod -R o+r02:22
AgentGreen? you can do both02:22
AgentGreenim just saying some mp4 files are strictly audio. i dont know what youre trying to do02:22
escottGorilla_No_Baka, #!/bin/bash; export LIBV4LCONTROL_FLAGS=3; LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype02:22
plustaxconverting to h264 right now AgentGreen02:22
Gorilla_No_BakaActionParsnip:  i agree with you.. unfortunately me being deployed in stupid africa in the neck of the woods  it means skype is the only way i can keep in touch with my friends..02:22
stickersi have a netbook with ubuntu for auction at listia.com/auction/1937841. i'm asking $30 for shipping, but you have to bid and win first02:23
AgentGreenh264 and aac?02:23
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: ekiga exists02:23
Gorilla_No_Baka:) i know.. and is quite sexy... unfortunately is only me who thinks that not the rest of the world02:23
huma777How do I restore the wall thing in ubuntu? I screwed it up somehow trying to go back to fancy effects, I have no menu, no launch bar.. only the workspace with nothing else?02:24
leftist /join #phreedom02:24
leftistopps02:24
Gorilla_No_Bakaescot cheers mate.. i will try it next time..02:24
ActionParsnipGorilla_No_Baka: rest of the world doesn't use linux, but here you are....02:24
graingert!question | bbear02:25
ubottubbear: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)02:25
Gorilla_No_Bakathe funny thing is that on the former editions it used to work without any problem02:26
Gorilla_No_Bakaright any idead where i can download a skype for the jackalope or maverick?02:27
Gorilla_No_Bakamaybe reverting to a former version of skype would work..02:28
huma777how do I get access the the system menu so I can try to undo what I did?02:29
edbianhuma777: The system menu was removed in unity.  What are you trying to undo?02:30
Emmanuelsaludos02:31
huma777I was trying to go to fancy effects for Ubuntu, tried to run the Cube for the workspaces, it disabled the wall, now I only have the workspace and no menu or anything.02:31
escott!ccsm | huma77702:31
ubottuhuma777: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz02:31
edbianhuma777: no menu?02:31
EmmanuelI have problems after install twice oracle-xe 10.0.202:32
Emmanueli cannot re-configure it02:32
Gorilla_No_Bakahuma777:  and get rid of the stupid unity using the synaptic ..02:32
escott!classic | Gorilla_No_Baka02:32
ubottuGorilla_No_Baka: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".02:32
huma777ubottu I did that, when I enabled the Cube effect, it somehow disabled the wall, I can't get to a menu, or to the settings to change it back.02:33
ubottuhuma777: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:33
edbianhuma777: alt+F2  then gun 'gnome-panel'  does that help?02:33
huma777edbian: nothing happens02:34
escotthuma777, maybe remove your .compiz folder02:34
edbianhuma777: does a box show up?02:35
edbianhuma777: using alt+F202:35
Gorilla_No_Bakaescott: unity does not impress me at all.. gnome was working good altough in ubuntu was a RAM memory hog..(on debian gnome only uses 60 MB of RAM on booting) but even like that with all it`s faults it was still better than unity.,. I mean i am using 11.04 with ubuntu classic no effects and gnome is working perfect after a little tweaking ,,, it only uses 89 MB of ram ...02:35
Gorilla_No_Bakai really see no reason why reinventing the wheel02:35
huma777edbian: no box, alt+F2 does nothing02:35
centHOGG$$$02:35
Gorilla_No_Baka but hey.. they are the bosses02:35
Gorilla_No_Baka:)02:35
huma777somehow I completely cripled ubuntu lol02:36
Emmanuelhow can i edit system paths and where i can access to paths of oracle-xe02:36
edbianhuma777: press ctrl + alt + F1  that should switch to a console.  You can switch back using ctrl + alt + F7    try it now02:36
edbianEmmanuel: You look at the $PATH variable02:36
escotthuma777, messing with ccsm can break unity. I would just nuke your .compiz and the compiz related folders in .config02:37
EmmanuelI have no idea where is that02:37
Emmanueledbian02:37
edbianEmmanuel: open a terminal.  type echo $PATH02:37
MK``Whenever I restart, my computer alternates between icon themes... how can I get it to stick? The buttons in firefox, gnome panel, etc. are all affected02:39
escottMK``, is gnome-settings-daemon crashing02:39
raywinhello all, is there a better channel for ubuntu noobs? or is this the place to start?02:40
rationalOgreraywin: This is a fairly decent place to start.02:41
rationalOgreraywin: Are you just wanting to learn about the basics? Or having a specific issue?02:41
raywinthx @rO, I am just learning the basics, I just installed natty on two boxes, and02:42
raywinam trying to learn quickly.02:42
raywinI'm new to the linux side of the house... it is pretty amazing everything so far just seems to work02:43
Gorilla_No_Bakaexcept for skype02:43
Gorilla_No_Baka:)02:43
Emmanuelsomebody have experience installing oracle-xe on ubuntu ?02:43
rationalOgreraywin: It can get pretty frustrating when things don't "just work" but glad to hear your experience is going well thus far.02:44
raywinlol, haven't tried skype yet.02:44
rationalOgrefwiw skype works fine for me but I'm on 10.04 still.02:44
Gorilla_No_Bakait used to work perfectly until the last version when it begun to randomly freeze the whole com[utter on sending the camera02:45
escottGorilla_No_Baka, try the preload trick. i think skype recently stopped using v4l which could be the cause of the problems02:45
raywin@GNB, I've had some weird issues with wifi performance... are you on a hardline or wireless?02:46
rationalOgreGorilla_No_Baka: ah, that would explain it. I don't use the video chat.02:46
MK``<escott> MK``, is gnome-settings-daemon crashing <-- no, I never got any alert. This started happening when I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.1002:46
ValentinianCan please someone ping those IPs, and tell me if they get response? 82.137.13.80    172.17.49.80    192.168.122.102:46
SAM_themananyone know how to Call Manager Assistance or Console Assistance in ubuntu 10.402:46
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tuxterhey all. >)02:47
escottValentinian, the last is internal to your network02:47
Gorilla_No_Bakaescott:  i will do that next time when i will have someone to talk to .. at the moment is  0247 hours in stupid angola and same time in UK.. so.. i guess i will just have to wait02:47
Valentinianescott: thanks, didnt knew02:47
th0rValentinian: if you are running a router you will have to forward ports to the local address in the router02:47
Gorilla_No_Bakaraywin:  i had to use ndiswrapper because i have a netgear wnda3100vs and is quite tricky to get it up and running..02:48
tuxterim on natty an it logs in as root automatically. i searched google for a fix to no avail. i re-installed gwm to no avail.02:48
tuxtersigh02:48
Gorilla_No_Bakabut yeah i was able to go online using wifi and ndiswrapper with windows drivers02:48
raywin@GNB, I am a totaly ubuntu noob, but the only thing I've had any kind of problem with so far is wifi performance02:49
Emmanuel i have problems re-installing oracle-xe02:49
Valentinianth0r: is not a router, is a wireless usb modem02:49
tuxternatty auto logs-in as root. the login screen doesnt show up on boot02:49
rationalOgretuxter: Click on the power icon in the upper right, then System Settings02:49
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raywinif possible you might want to try and hardwire ethernet and try skype with that...02:49
rationalOgreWhen the control center pops up, click on Login Screen02:50
rationalOgreThen click Unlock at the bottom02:50
rationalOgreAnd change what user auto logs in or shut of auto login alltogether02:50
th0rValentinian: your computer is talking to the wireless router....anything (ping, etc) sent to your ip address will die at that router unless you tell it to send the packets on to your computer02:50
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Valentinianth0r: can u point me to a tutorial where I can learn how to do that?02:51
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tuxterchecking thnx.02:51
th0rValentinian: not off hand. google should be able to find some for you02:51
th0rValentinian: google port forwarding and include the model of your wifi router02:52
Jon--I am installing a couple perl modules with checkinstall. I just installed a dependency of the Bit::Vectors module, which was carp-clan. However, now that I go to install Bit::Vectors, I get the following "trying to overwrite '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1/perllocal.pod', which is also in package carp-clan 0:6.04-1". Is there a way to force an override of this on install? I like to use checkinstall because managing Debian packag02:52
Jon--es is nicer than just make install02:52
rationalOgretuxter: how did this come about, do you know?02:52
Valentinianth0r: and how is this action called? forwarding pakets from ip to the computer?02:52
pfifoBACON!!!!!!!!!!02:53
th0rValentinian: it is called port forwarding02:53
IdleOnepfifo: please keep the offtopic randomness in -ot02:53
tuxterrationalOgre,  im not shure02:53
tuxterrationalOgre,  i know its a treashed bug02:53
Valentinianth0r: then it could be a setting that I have to do in OpenSSH?02:54
rationalOgreJon--: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libbit-vector-perl ?02:54
pfifoIdleOne, blame it on RepTepHog he highlighted me02:54
th0rValentinian: nope...it has to be done in the router02:54
SAM_themananyone?02:54
aashiftHi, I've had a problem with apt-get and i'm not sure how to fix this. 'apt-get -f install' doesn't fix this for me. any help please? http://pastebin.com/G0JsKrrH02:54
rationalOgreSAM_theman: I don't know what Manager Assitance or Console Assistance is. I googled to no avail. More info please?02:55
MK``<escott> MK``, is gnome-settings-daemon crashing <-- no, I never got any alert. This started happening when I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.1002:55
Valentinianth0r: I just want to make a website on my computer to be accesibile from the internet, do I have to do that in a router?02:55
PolahValentinian: Port forwarding, basically, is a setting on your router that diverts traffic sent to a specific port to a certain computer on the network. For SSHing into a computer on a network behind the router, you'd need to configure the router to forward incoming traffic on port 22 to that computer02:55
Jon--rationalOgre, I am trying specifically to install this http://deps.cpantesters.org/?module=Date%3A%3ACalc;perl=latest  will that package meet the dependency?02:55
leftistis there a process to install curl via apt?02:55
PolahValentinian, yes.02:55
tuxterrationalOgre, thnx all see if its fixed02:55
tuxterrestart02:55
SAM_themanrationalOgre, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26023702:55
leftisti just realized being color blind that i had a red error but i thought all this time it was black :D02:55
rationalOgre!gnome3 | aashift02:56
ubottuaashift: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and cannot be downgraded safely.02:56
PolahValentinian, for a website, you need to divert port 80 traffic to your computer.02:56
escottMK``, i've had issues with gnome-settings-daemon loading after the desktop draws when logging in from a cold boot02:56
ValentinianPolah: And that can be done without envolving my ISP?02:56
tuxterrationalOgre,  i remeber. Its when i installed Ubity-2d02:56
aashiftrationalOgre: i'm aware of that. however, still wondering how to fix it, if possible.02:56
PolahValentinian, your ISP may take issue if you're using large amounts of bandwidth.02:56
PolahValentinian, check with your ISP for their terms on hosting websites and content like that.02:57
tuxterany how brb02:57
MK``escott: could this be related to Plymouth not working properly since I upgraded? I never got around to fixing it since it was only a visual issue02:57
rationalOgreSAM_theman: You might have better luck in #cisco02:57
SAM_theman:-X02:57
SAM_themanwas trying to aviod them02:57
ValentinianPolah: that is not the problem. But my ISP doesn't care how I use my connection, as long as I use it myself :)02:58
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ValentinianAnd it's ok, I make a website for my city, and i have 100MB download and 2MB upload guaranteed.02:58
PolahValentinian: No bandwidth limits?02:59
PolahValentinian: If your ISP allows you to, then no you don't need to involve them. Port forwarding is based entirely within your local network. Your ISP is only involved to check if you're allowed to host websites and similar services.02:59
rationalOgreJon--: That calls for Bit::Vector 7.1 which is what the PPA installs03:00
ValentinianPolah: so how can I setup my ubuntu server to serve webpages?03:00
Jon--rationalOgre, Thank you. One last question. The installer for that module says "make sure to do make install UNIST=1"  how do I specify this flag with checkinstall if I wanted to create a package instead?03:01
Logos01Hello ...  I'm trying to create a kvm hypervisor using the 11.04 Ubuntu server distro.03:01
PolahValentinian: Do you have Apache and such set up already?03:01
Logos01The only customization I've used is the fact that I'm using a NAS for the file storage. (I'm symlinking to nfs.)03:01
ValentinianPolah: Yes, I managed to have joomla CMS installed and working03:01
Logos01I keep getting the error, "Unable to complete install: 'internal error Process exited while reading console log output: bind(unix:/var/lib/libvirt/qemu/Template.monitor): Permission denied03:01
Logos01chardev: opening backend "socket" failed"03:01
PolahValentinian: Then you need to look up the manual for your router and look up how to port forward on it.03:01
bazhangValentinian, portforward.com can help03:02
ValentinianPolah: there is no manual for my router :(03:02
PolahValentinian: Looked online?03:02
aashiftrationalOgre: the gnome3 shell may be broke, but the problem i'm having is with apt. it won't let me install packages until the gnome3 issue is fixed. is there a workaround or something for apt? i don't even care right now if it's an ugly fix. i just need apt to work properly for the time being.03:03
ValentinianPolah: Yes, I use now a Huawei usb modem.03:03
bazhangaashift, you installed the gnome3 ppa?03:03
centHOGGv11.04 = too much hassle03:03
Logos01So I'm learning.03:03
rationalOgreJon--: sudo checkinstall make install UNIST=103:04
aashiftbazhang: yes03:04
Jon--Sweet. That's handy.03:04
bazhangaashift, back up and reinstall03:04
Jon--Thanks rationalOgre03:04
aashiftbazhang: for that small apt problem?03:04
epygraph4ui cant get the animations add ons to show up in my compiz config how can i get them to show?03:04
bazhangaashift, there's a very clear warning about that ppa03:04
aashiftbazhang: and i've read it.03:04
ValentinianPolah: I dont have a router. I have 2 types of connection> one is a cable coming from the ISP with a pppoe connection, and another is a wireless usb stick03:05
Jon--rationalOgre, fml. Got " trying to overwrite '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1/perllocal.pod', which is also in package carp-clan 0:6.04-1" again (installing Date-Calc-6.3)03:05
aashiftbazhang: did you see my pastebin above?03:05
PolahValentinian: You have your computer connected directly to your DSL/fibre/whatever line?03:05
bazhangaashift, I missed it, just saw the bit about gnome3 ppa03:06
ValentinianPolah: I guess, it's something like a metropolitan network03:06
PolahValentinian: You have [Wall Socket] <> [Your computer]?03:06
PolahNothing in between?03:06
rationalOgreaashift: Sorry, I have no idea. There may be a workaround, I don't know it.03:07
ValentinianPolah: dunno what WallSocket is03:07
PolahValentinian: The socket in your wall that your internet/phone line comes from03:07
Jon--rationalOgre, Fixed it myself, it was the previous checkinstall installation that I did not remove after installing from package.03:07
rationalOgreJon--: Remove carp-clan03:07
bazhangValentinian, connector in the wall ; ie directly to ethernet03:07
rationalOgreJon--: cool, glad you got it.03:07
Logos01Anyone? Can't install VMs on a freshly-installed KVM/Qemu install? 11.04 ubuntu-server03:07
aashiftbazhang: my problem is apt is having probs with the gnome3 packages. and won't let me install packages until it's fixed. i ran apt-get -f like it said, however it doesn't fix it.03:07
ValentinianPolah: My isp has put clables around the whoule city/country. They came at ur door with the network cable03:07
rationalOgreJon--: You know, there may be a PPA for Date::Calc03:07
Polahbazhang: Not directly to ethernet. Directly to the phone/fibre line03:08
Jon--rationalOgre,  There may be. I did aptitude search on a few different terms to no avail. I didn't try Googling for user PPAs though.03:08
bazhangaashift, yes, and gnome3 (and all PPA) are unsupported, the warning on that one makes clear you should have backups handy when this happens.03:08
PolahValentinian: What? There should be a jack socket somewhere in your home that's connected to your home's phone or fibre line. That's what you have to plug your router/computer into to connect to the internet...03:08
ValentinianI think is directly to the ethernet03:09
th0rValentinian: then where does the 192.168 ip address come from?03:09
ValentinianI think there is one outside my house. But inside my home is only a cable which i plug into the network slot03:09
PolahValentinian: The ethernet jack on your computer?03:10
ValentinianWait. That is one connection. And I have another connection, it's a mobile broadband connection, That's what I'm using now03:10
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PolahValentinian: Open a terminal and type ifconfig, pastebin it for me.03:11
Guest96223I keep getting error 'SystemError: installArchives() failed' when I try to update. This was after uninstalling my graphics after they messed up.03:11
Valentinianhttp://pastebin.com/gpFaqKeQ03:11
rationalOgrevirtual bridge03:13
ValentinianMy internet connection is done through something like this: http://www.mobilebroadbandrocks.com/device/huawei-e170-e172 (not exactely that device, but that type of device)03:14
fbdystangHi all :) My ubuntu server box is reading/writing really slow, like 1MBps. Disk utility shows an average Read rate at 110.6 MB/S. But when I just straight copy files from one folder to another it shows 1 MB/S. What could be causing this? RAM? Thanks in advance03:14
rationalOgreValentinian: So you have a essentially a wireless ISP?03:15
ValentinianrationalOgre: yes :)03:15
ValentinianAnd i'm trying to setup my ubuntu server PC to serve webpages03:15
rationalOgreValentinian: Then you are going to need a IP forwarding service of some type, like no-ip.com03:16
PolahValentinian: I hope for your sake that you're running a firewall on your computer.03:16
ActionParsnipfbdystang: test your ram if you suspect it03:16
SolomonKull^ this ^03:16
rationalOgreValentinian: As I would imagine you have a dynamic IP address from your ISP.03:17
phrhi ;) can someone tell me a method to boot/install ISO from hard drive without usb sticks and cd-roms?03:17
ValentinianrationalOgre: that's right, dynamic IP.03:17
rationalOgreValentinian: I also would highly suggest locking down the box since you don't even have a NAT router blocking you.03:17
fbdystangActionParnsip: Do you mean like memtest from grub? Or is their a RAM utility in Ubuntu?03:17
Logos01Anyone? Anyone at all?  Default 11.04 server as KVM hypervisor -- can't install VMs.03:17
ValentinianPolah: just installed ubuntu server, with apache2, mysql and php, that's it. It's a plain installl03:17
rationalOgreValentinian: It goes INTERNET => you (which is mad dangerous unless you know how to config the computer)03:18
PolahValentinian: Consider switching to your wired connection rather than wireless if you're hosting. Also, what rationalOgre said. Since you have no router, there's nothing between your computer and the internet. I'd recommend getting a firewall to protect your ports and in that you can just open 80 for a website.03:18
phranyone?03:18
ValentinianrationalOgre: and how can I do that? I tried to configure Zentyal (I think it does what I need) but couldn't manage to.03:18
whigbertWhy is Ubuntu a total fail every time I try it anew? gah!03:18
rationalOgrePolah: He has a firewall. UFW+IPtables03:18
MonkeyDustphr: anyone what?03:18
SolomonKullwhigbert: Because Ubuntu is not Debian.03:18
whigbertDuring install the mouse cursor is borked03:19
GSF1200Sdoes anyone know how to get the gnome keyring to NOT ask me for a password when I login?03:19
rationalOgreValentinian: Google UFW03:19
whigbertAfter install the mouse cursor is invisible03:19
chowlAnyone there with sometype of ubuntu knowhow?03:19
whigbertgood, managed to install fglrx with the invisible mouse cursor03:19
chowlI have an odd question03:19
rationalOgresorry, you probably need to put Ubuntu ufw03:19
phrMonkeyDust: i've asked if someone knows a method about how to boot/install ISO from hard drive03:19
whigbertnow I want to use vnc03:19
Logos01Apparently not, chowl -- but what's the question?03:19
MonkeyDustValentinian: type sudo ufw status03:19
rationalOgreValentinian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW03:19
whigbertI setup vino, but when I connect all windows are invisibloe03:19
whigbertthe rest works03:19
GSF1200Sthe keyring and my login password are the same- it asks me to login, then I have to put in the password again for my wireless card to work03:20
chowlAlright so I've got xp and windows installed on this machine, running fine.03:20
ValentinianUnited Farm Workers of America =))03:20
Valentinianufw is allready installed03:20
chowlI need to reinstall windows, but I have no quality usb drives, nor do I have an blank cd/rs.03:20
rationalOgreValentinian: You need to read up how to configure it.03:20
Polahchowl: None of us know a thing about Ubuntu. We're all sitting in here waiting for someone to help us.03:20
fbdystangActionParsnip: Do you mean like memtest from grub? Or is their a RAM utility in Ubuntu?03:20
chowlMy question is, how do I install xp, from within ubuntu, onto a seperate partition03:20
whigbertalso, where the hell are the setting? How do I browse settings/programs? Fuck Unity!03:20
IdleOne!language | whigbert03:20
ubottuwhigbert: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:20
rationalOgreValentinian: Do you have more than one computer in the house?03:20
whigbertUh sorry03:20
SolomonKullchowl: ask in #windows, this is for Linux support03:20
ValentinianrationalOgre: but isnt that step 2? step 1 being serving webpages?03:20
bazhangwhigbert, stop cursing, and stop with the enter key. its impossible to read03:20
Polahchowl: As far as I'm aware, the only way to install Windows is with an actual Windows CD/a copy and booting from it03:20
SolomonKullchowl: Installing Windows is not a Linux problem.03:21
ValentinianrationalOgre: yes I do03:21
MonkeyDustwhigbert: use ubuntu classic, if you dont like unity03:21
whigbertbazhang: enter key?03:21
rationalOgreValentinian: No, Step 1: Protect yourself. Step 2: Then worry about sharing.03:21
teddyroosebeltis there any way to get a login screen by adding :0.1 to the command? i need my keyboard to work so i can play a streaming video on my tv in full screen03:21
Logos01chowl: What's the goal?  Could a VM solve the problem?03:21
chowlYeah installing windows is a linux problem when I'm asking how to do it within ubuntu03:21
SolomonKullwhigbert: think longer, write more, stop using enter afetr ever statement.03:21
rationalOgreValentinian: How do you share the internet in your home?03:21
chowlGoal is to dual boot, but install xp from ubuntu03:21
whigbertMonkeyDust: I'm willing to accept it, I want to know how to browser programs/settings without figuring out how to install unity classic03:21
MonkeyDustchowl: windows within linux???03:21
Polahchowl: Can't install Windows from another operating system.03:21
bazhangchowl, in a vm?03:21
Azelphurteddyroosebelt: :0.1, your talking about the DISPLAY variable? you really shouldn't need to specify something like that unless you have a very strange display setup.03:21
Logos01Ahh. That really isn't possible.03:21
Polahchowl, bazhang: well, you could use a VM actually03:21
phrPEACE AND LOVE!03:22
ValentinianrationalOgre: I dont. They are separate, with two conections: one is pppoe, one is wireless modem stick03:22
Logos01chowl: If you can't use a VM then there's no way to do what you're after.03:22
teddyroosebeltAzelphur, correct. i do. i have a tv-out and i cant go fullscreen video in seperate xscreen mode03:22
SolomonKullchowl: no, it is still very much a windows problem.  If you ahve a legal Windows CD then you should be fine.  Period.  You do not install windows "through" Linux or "with" Linux.03:22
chowlTo install it onto another partition? I was thinking using wine, but I'm positive it doesn't work like that03:22
whigbertSolomonKull: Aha, so this is custom in this channel? I have never been to any channel like that, so thanks for telling me.03:22
bazhangchowl, you want to move a vhd to a real hdd?03:22
rationalOgreValentinian: So you have two different ISP's?03:22
Azelphurteddyroosebelt: ah, I see, maybe I'll pm you since the channel flies by so fast :P03:22
teddyroosebeltAzelphur, sure.03:22
Polahchowl: Like I said, you need a Windows disk to boot from and install it.03:22
ValentinianrationalOgre: yes03:22
MonkeyDustwhigbert: install ccsm, open preferences, compiz, desktop, unity plugin03:22
whigbertNow, as for VNC support, is somebody going to help me?03:22
rationalOgreValentinian: Just trying to make sense of your topology.03:22
bazhangwhigbert, ask a question, all on one line03:22
rationalOgreValentinian: are the two computers networked together?03:23
whigbertMonkeyDust: to disable unity!?03:23
whigbertVNC shows no windows, why?03:23
ValentinianrationalOgre: I am trying fo the first time to setup a server in order to serve webpages, so I dont  have to use a hosting service.03:23
SolomonKullwhigbert: installing Windows has _nothing_ to do with any other operating systems. Period.  Just because you have Linxu does not mean you are using Linux to install WIndows.  Use a Windows CD or try your luck in a #microsoft channel.  This channel is for #linux support.  Windows is not Linux.03:23
cherylGood evening all...03:23
rationalOgreValentinian: Ok.03:23
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ValentinianNo, not networked together03:23
centHOGGwindows isn't linux?03:23
whigbertSolomonKull: What, are you a robot?03:23
bazhangcentHOGG, thats enough03:23
whigbertIt does not show PROGRAM WINDOWS03:24
SolomonKullwhigbert: I AM THAN I AM.03:24
SolomonKullTHAT*03:24
cherylI'm having trouble viewing a vcd (no doubt created in windoze) on my Maverick 10.10 pc!03:24
whigbertOk03:24
whigbertfor the robots:03:24
MonkeyDustwhigbert: use gnome (ubuntu classic) if u want to disable unity03:24
rationalOgreValentinian: Ultimately, you will need a static-to-dynamic-IP mapping service like no-ip or it's kin.03:24
centHOGGyour first vcd?03:24
Logos01Anyone at all?  11.04 ubuntu server -- can't install VMs using the default KVM/Qemu package.03:24
rationalOgreValentinian: To make that work with your present setup.03:24
SolomonKullrationalOgre: dyndns is good.03:24
SolomonKullLogos01: use virtualbox.03:24
rationalOgreValentinian: But I would heartily recommend locking down your "server" before going much further.03:25
whigbertHi, my name is whighbert and I'm from germany: I have the following problem: I set up Vino to accept VNC connections, but as I connect with a client, only the desktop appears, but no program windows. Does anybody know a possible solution?03:25
Logos01SolomonKull: Not. An. Option.03:25
whigbertDoes anybody even know what VNC is?03:25
Jon--rationalOgre, Unfortunately I don't think my package installed, if you wanted to help me?03:25
rationalOgreValentinian: You don't want to put the server out there only to have it hacked within 15 minutes.03:25
ValentinianrationalOgre: isn't the server locked with default install?03:25
SolomonKullLogos01: detail teh error.  Lets see some logs or something.  Cant read your computers mind.03:25
bazhangwhigbert, what is "program windows"03:25
rationalOgreJon--: Did you get an error from the PPA or from installing Date::Calc?03:25
Logos01"Unable to complete install: 'internal error Process exited while reading console log output: bind(unix:/var/lib/libvirt/qemu/Template.monitor): Permission denied03:25
Logos01chardev: opening backend "socket" failed"03:25
Jon--whigbert, yes we (at least some of us) know what VNC is. Unfortunately I've never done any VNCing with Linux sorry.03:25
rationalOgreValentinian: Not always. Best to be safe than sorry.03:25
whigbertbazhang: Man, what do you call the goddamn things your window manager manages? don't you call them just WINDOWS, or do you call them something else?03:26
qinwhigbert: Can you define "desktop"? Walpaper, empty retangle?03:26
SolomonKullwhigbert: window managers.03:26
Logos01http://pastebin.com/NBj25Qa003:26
Jon--rationalOgre, Nope, rather a failed to include Strptime.pm which should be in that package. I can't find it anywhere. @INCLUDE has /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl03:26
rationalOgreValentinian: Unless it is built from the ground up, any server distro is going to have services running that are unnecessary and such.03:26
bazhangwhigbert, no cursing, watch the attitude03:26
rationalOgreValentinian: And default configurations for various things.03:26
ValentinianrationalOgre: are there any tutorials on how to achieve what I need? (a webhosting server)03:27
cherylcentHOGG, on this system, yes, won't play in my new dvd player either.03:28
PolahValentinian: Acquire the minimal ISO and do an absolute minimal install from it. i.e. OpenSSH server perhaps, Apache, MySQL, PHP, some firewall service (if one doesn't already come on the minimal, someone confirm please), and that's basically it. Even then there may be a few things you could remove.03:28
bazhangcheryl, tried ripping it with ogmrip or the like?03:28
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Logos01Just use the Ubuntu-server package.03:28
Logos01It has LAMP as an installation option.03:28
cherylbazhang, I'm not that technical! I thought I could just plug it in 'n play it03:29
centHOGGcheryl: can you hold on for a sec... helping someone03:29
rationalOgreValentinian: http://serverfault.com/questions/42/securing-a-fresh-ubuntu-server03:29
ValentinianI have all of those installed and running.03:29
ValentinianPolah: that's what I did :)03:29
godmachine81how do you disable notifications in gnome 3?03:29
[V13]AxelIs it possible to use the ATI binary drivers on a card that's on the legacy support structure?03:29
bazhangcheryl, some can, though ogmrip is very easy to use03:29
ActionParsnipgodmachine81: gnome3 isn't supported here03:29
cherylcentHOGG, No probs, need a coffee anyhow....pm me when u ready, ta.03:29
centHOGGk03:29
gnarlberthi03:29
godmachine81ActionParsnip:: where is it supported then?  nobody talks about it nowhere!!03:29
ActionParsnipgodmachine81: #gnome03:29
cherylbazhang, thanks but centHOGG says he can help. :)03:30
godmachine81ActionParsnip:: i don't even use ubuntu.. but i figured that people had it installed here that might know.. come on man.. nobody is in that channel active03:30
* rww facepamls03:30
* cheryl goes to make a cuppa java.03:30
ActionParsnipgodmachine81: no, its not stable in Ubuntu03:30
bazhanggodmachine81, what os do you use03:30
Jon--I feel in this growing dilemma to move off of 10.04 but I really dislike Unity. I guess I can go to 10.10...03:30
godmachine81slackware03:30
bazhanggodmachine81, why ask here then03:30
godmachine81well sorry for asking a question..03:30
ActionParsnipgodmachine81: then try the slackware channels03:30
[V13]AxelIs there a way to use the ATI binary proprietary drivers on a card on the legacy support structure?03:30
Polahgodmachine81: Remove the Notification Area on one of your panels. Assuming it's not too different from GNOME2.03:30
rationalOgreJon--: Curious, why didn't  you use the cpan shell?03:30
rationalOgreJon--: to install this stuff.03:30
PolahJon--: You can use GNOME2 on 11.0403:30
godmachine81this is not a distro specific question.. god03:31
gnarlbertMay I ask again: I try to use VNC with Vino as a server, but the client does not draw any application windows, only the unity UI and the desktop is shown. Is there anybody able to help me?03:31
Jon--godmachine81, Try ##linux03:31
godmachine81Polah:: it is completely different than gnome 203:31
rolandixorAnyone know where the ayatana channel is?03:31
ActionParsnipgodmachine81: but this is a distro specific channel03:31
rwwgodmachine81: GNOME 3 exists in two forms in Ubuntu. One is an unsupported PPA that is unsupported, and one is in our development release that isn't supported here. Considering that Ubuntu support channels are for Ubuntu, please go use your distribution's or something.03:31
rolandixoroh hi ActionParsnip03:31
rwwrolandixor: #ayatana03:31
KimLarouxJon--, there's always KDE and Xfce =)03:31
godmachine81Polah:: gnome 3 doesn't have options for editing panels03:31
bazhang!alis | rolandixor03:31
ubotturolandixor: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*03:31
Polahgodmachine81: Better go and ask in #gnome then.03:31
rolandixorty rww03:31
Jon--KimLaroux, KDE is too flashy and Xfce looks like ass. OpenBox is an option ;p03:31
godmachine81i have asked in gnome.. nobody talks there.. i didn't think i would get that big of a run around by asking here hell fire03:32
ActionParsnipJon--: try LXDE (uses openbox too)03:32
Jon--Getting an error after installing a perl module, erhaps it didn't install properly?03:32
rationalOgreJon--: At any rate. Remove that PPA that you did from before, and your current Date::Calc, then run sudo apt-get install libdate-calc-perl03:32
Polahgodmachine81: Do some Googling then. Like we said, GNOME3 is not supported on Ubuntu or in this channel.03:32
Jon--rationalOgre, damn, there's a package?03:32
KimLarouxJon--,  lol I love both, been a KDE fan for years... never tried OpenBox, I'll check it out03:32
rationalOgreJon--: Indeed03:32
Jon--KimLaroux, It needs heavy manual config03:32
KimLarouxAh, nvm then03:32
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rolandixor:/ I don't like IRC :(03:33
Logos01SolomonKull: http://pastebin.com/NBj25Qa003:33
roddhi has anyone ever tried macbuntu?03:33
[V13]Axelrodd: I use it on 10.0403:33
[V13]Axelrodd: It's pretty wonderful.03:33
roddis it stable?03:33
ActionParsniprodd: did a while ago03:33
[V13]Axelrodd: For 10.04 and 10.10/03:33
bazhangrodd, its not stable, nor supported.03:33
ActionParsniprodd: its just themes, so should be fine03:34
rwwit's a fully-blown program these days03:34
roddim trying it on 11 but sometimes things dont go well03:34
qinrodd: But still you would want to have test account/user for it ;)03:34
bazhangrodd, have full backups03:34
roddlike mouse cursor, high cpu usage for the docky and a few other things03:34
gnarlbertOk, so nobody running Vino for VNC in ubuntu?03:34
gnarlbertanybody using some other remote desktop solution?03:35
cherylcentHOGG, just don't forget me here....03:35
[V13]AxelWhat's the command for the Hardware Drivers program?03:35
centHOGGalmost there :)03:35
rww[V13]Axel: jockey-gtk03:35
ActionParsniprodd: http://langit.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/install-macbuntu-in-ubuntu-11-04/03:35
Jon--gnarlbert, Try Google, see what seems to be the most popular. Is it Vino? I don't know anything about VNC in Linux.03:35
[V13]Axelrww: Thanks.03:35
qingnarlbert: x over ssh?03:36
rationalOgreJon--: i just ran sudo apt-get -s install libdate-calc-perl and it ran just fine, installed all dependencies and everything.03:36
gnarlbertJon--: FYI vino comes with Ubuntu but it doesnt' work properly for me03:36
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Polahgnarlbert: You could use SSH instead.03:36
Jon--rationalOgre, I still get Can't locate DateTime/Format/Strptime.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at conkyRTM.pl line 31.03:36
gnarlbertqin: That doesn't work across OSs does it?03:36
dinesh_hello friends i am trying to install wine 1.3 its giving the error as follows (The following packages have unmet dependencies:03:36
dinesh_ wine1.3 : Conflicts: wine1.0 but 1.0.1-0ubuntu14 is to be installed03:36
dinesh_E: Broken packages03:36
dinesh_) kindly advise how to resolve it03:36
dinesh_hello actionparsnip03:36
ActionParsnipdinesh_: remove wine1.0 first03:37
qingnarlbert: You can run whole gnome/kde/whatever (i thinks there is nice howto to run osx too)03:37
dinesh_) kindly advise how to resolve it03:37
ray_what u guys think of 11.04?03:37
Jon--gnarlbert, PuTTy has X11 forwarding03:37
Logos01Nothing from anyone? ubuntu-server instance, default packages all around, cannot install VMs.03:37
Logos01http://pastebin.com/NBj25Qa003:37
dinesh_ok03:37
ActionParsnipray_: its ok03:37
gnarlbertqin: Sounds like I'd prefer VNC still, thanks03:37
dinesh_how to remove03:38
Jon--gnarlbert, It might lag badly though.03:38
rationalOgreJon--: Hrm. It should be installing it in your include path...03:38
ActionParsnipdinesh_: use software centre03:38
dinesh_ok03:38
gnarlbertI was hoping for something at least as good as VNC or remote desktop03:38
Polahgnarlbert: Running an SSH server, you can use ssh with the -X flag to get a graphical environment.03:38
qingnarlbert: freenx?03:38
Logos01gnarlbert: X11 forwarding is per-application.03:38
roddActionParsnip, thanks for the link03:38
Logos01FreeNX03:38
gnarlbertfreenx, eh03:38
roddi didn't like the new interface on 1103:38
ray_<ActionParsnip> it's buggy and flaky!03:38
bazhangrodd, then use classic03:39
roddthe classic is way better03:39
PolahLogos01: Really?03:39
roddi do03:39
roddjust saying my opinion03:39
th0rgnarlbert: I never had much luck with freenx, but the commercial nx is free for personal use03:39
Jon--I really hope they drop Unity, it's such a piece of *children are present*03:39
rationalOgreJon--: Are you trying to run a script that relies on this?03:39
Logos01Gah -- FreeNX is alright but haven't really played with it.03:39
Jon--rationalOgre, mhm03:39
th0rgnarlbert: but look at x-forwarding via ssh....faster than any alternatives03:39
Logos01Polah: Really what? <_<03:39
PolahLogos01: I didn't know it was application specific03:40
rationalOgreJon--: Give it time. It could become something great. However, they really should make it easier to "swap out".03:40
Logos01Polah: X11 forwarding?03:40
gnarlbertth0r: It will only run on Unices though, right?03:40
Logos01Well, whatever apps you invoke in your X-forwarding shell are what get viewed.03:40
th0rgnarlbert: you can do x-forwarding from windows using xmng03:40
rationalOgreJon--: One of the reasons I love Arch is that if I want to try out a new WM it's just 2 or 3 commands.03:40
PolahLogos01: Yeah.03:40
ActionParsnipgnarlbert: what tasks do you do on the remote systems using freenix etc?03:41
th0rgnarlbert: that should be x-forwarding TO windows03:41
Jon--rationalOgre, I have so many people recommend arch, I'm just lazy right now. Any idea on my perl issue?03:41
Logos01You still need to be running the X11 server locally though.03:41
Logos01You can use xmng, mingw, or Cygwin-X03:41
Logos01I personally prefer Cygwin-X.03:41
RoastedDoes anybody know the command to run usb startup disk creator in terminal? It's giving me issues in 11.04 and I heard if I run it with gksudo as root I can run it without issue, but I forget the command.03:41
ActionParsnipRoasted: usb-creator-gtk03:42
RoastedActionParsnip, as always, thanks bro03:43
ActionParsnipRoasted: anytime03:44
i3luefirewhat is the best way to have my laptop do frequency scaling03:45
Azelphuri3luefire: do nothing, it should be automatic.03:45
rationalOgreJon--: dpkg -L libdate-calc-perl | grep -i Strptime.pm03:46
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fbdystangHey, I am running memtest86 right now. Does it check speeds or just for correct bits? If it checks speeds how can you interpret them? I have 2gigs of DDR3 @1333 but it only shows DDR @666 MHZ.03:46
Jon--rationalOgre, no output03:46
GrubNwbhelp03:46
GrubNwboh srry03:46
ActionParsnipfbdystang: you will know if it finds errors, if the wrong speed is shown, check our BIOS settings03:47
GrubNwbCan someone help me with something?03:47
ActionParsnipGrubNwb: ask and see03:47
roddI just love when you write a long text in a form, submit, gives you an error message and makes your text disappear03:47
fbdystangActionParsnip: Thanks I'll check it right now03:48
GrubNwbOk, I have just installed ubuntu to an external harddisk with GRUB2 on that hard drive. How can i boot to it? (my main OS is win 7)03:48
Logos01fbdystang: I'm not aware that memtest checks for speeds.03:48
fbdystangrodd: sorry man I have done that too many times03:48
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Logos01That's not really an Ubuntu/linux thing though.03:48
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qinGrubNwb: Boot sequence in bios03:48
Logos01GrubNwb: You need to change your boot-device order to select it.03:48
rationalOgreJon--: sudo apt-get install libdatetime-perl03:49
whigbertok I can't get freenx installed03:49
fbdystangLogos01: Do you know of another way to test RAM speeds?03:49
whigbertrepositories outdated apparently03:49
leftistis there anything i need to run after this command? apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get install php5-curl03:49
GrubNwbLogos01 It is installed to a specific partition on the device does that matter?03:49
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* whigbert goes back to Windows, thanks again03:50
ActionParsnipleftist: looks fine (I recommend you install and use apt-fat instead ;))03:50
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Logos01GrubNwb: No.03:50
Logos01Shouldn't, anyhow.03:50
Logos01fbdystang: Not off the top of my head, actually.03:50
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GrubNwbOk thanks. I'll try now03:50
leftistactionparsnip ;)03:50
kaushalHi03:51
kaushalis there a irc channel for ubuntu-lists ?03:51
ActionParsnip*apt-fast sorry03:51
rationalOgre Jon-- I should have just had you do sudo apt-get install libdatetime-format-strptime-perl03:51
rwwkaushal: as in mailing lists? or what?03:51
kaushalI get Your message was rejected while sending email to lucid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com03:51
kaushalrww: yes03:52
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rwwkaushal: No, but lucid-changes isn't something you send mail to. It's an autopost from Launchpad or something.03:52
Jon--rationalOgre, Considering your first recommended command didn't include libdatetime-format-strptime-perl? Yep. ;P03:52
kaushalrww: ok03:52
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rwwkaushal: what is it you're trying to do? (i.e., why were you trying to send that mail?)03:53
rationalOgreJon--: :P Sorry, I generally don't touch perl. I'm a Python guy.03:53
leftistwouldnt curl support be enabled by default after it is installed?03:53
rationalOgreJon--: So I'm having to figure out their packaging system.03:53
kaushalrww: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/78460403:53
rationalOgreon Python it would be "sudo pip install <whatever>" done03:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 784604 in sun-java6 (Ubuntu) "a new java version is available for download" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:53
rationalOgreDon't get me wrong, I'm not a perl hater, I just know my limitations.03:54
Jon--rationalOgre, Would you judge me if I told you I have done three years of computer science without touching either? I should get some scripting experience, I've done Java and C a lot :P03:54
noyb_does anyone here use freenas?03:54
FireStormsHey can someone help me with something03:54
rationalOgreJon--: It's surprising, but I wouldn't hate you.03:54
rationalOgreNow, if you told me  you did 3 years of CS without touching shell scripting, I'd call you a masochist!03:55
rationalOgre:D03:55
kaushalrww: please suggest further03:55
rwwkaushal: That's not going to happen. Ubuntu doesn't upgrade to new major versions of packages after release in most cases. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for the procedure, though.03:55
FireStormsI've got two mysql servers on my system, one came with xampp the other is from a lampp instillation. Now the lampp mysql server always starts first so xampp mysql server complains that one's already running on port 3306. How can I reverse this?03:56
GrubNwbany one know the boot menu key for a sony VAIO?03:56
rww!xampp | FireStorms03:56
ubottuFireStorms: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.03:56
FireStormsLet me rephrase :P, in *Ubuntu* how do I stop the autostarting of services?03:57
rationalOgreFireStorms: Version?03:58
FireStormsrationalOgre, 11.0403:58
qinGrubNwb: F8? F10? F1? F2? There is limited amount of options.03:58
th0rFireStorms: there used to be a nice little program called bum...see if it is there for 11.0403:59
FireStormsth0r I installed that like 10 minuites ago, but it doesn't list the mysql service03:59
roddis there a way to keep apache and mysql from auto starting except for removing its entries in /etc/init.d ?03:59
qinFireStorms: Upstart or init?03:59
rationalOgreFireStorms: Couple ways. Easiest is sudo chmod a-x /etc/init.d/<scriptnamethatstartsserviceyoudontwant>04:00
jasongriffeeI'm trying to snyc contacts, but I get this: "This address book cannot be opened.  This either means that an incorrect URI was entered, or the server is unreachable.04:00
jasongriffeeDetailed error message: Invalid source04:00
jasongriffeewhat should i do?04:00
FireStormsI deleted mysql from /etc/init.d and sym linked the mysql file from /opt/lampp/sbin/mysql, but still no joy04:00
rationalOgresync contacts from/to?04:00
ActionParsnipGrubNwb: i suggest you check your manual, or read the screen fast04:00
jasongriffeeevolution/ubuntu one04:01
GrubNwbmy screen does not show the buttons 2 press :D ill figure it out though04:01
rationalOgreFireStorms: Your understanding of the files in init.d is off.04:01
rationalOgreFireStorms: They are not symlinks to binaries, they are shell scripts.04:01
FireStormsrationalOgre, Well I deleted the mysql binary, and restarted my comp and it still runs, so it must be autostarting from elsewhere04:02
bazhangjasongriffee, try #ubuntuone04:02
rationalOgreFireStorms: Why not just purge the xampp package?04:02
ActionParsnipGrubNwb: seems to be F1104:03
FireStormsrationalOgre, I'm using xampp, I'd like to purge the other mysql service, but I tried that before and it ended up taking the xampp mysql with it lol!04:03
rationalOgreFireStorms: So purge both then reinstall the one you want.04:04
rationalOgreFireStorms: Copy out any config files you want beforehand.04:04
bazhangFireStorms, xampp is not supported here, use lamp04:04
FireStormsso besides /etc/init.d is there any other places that autostart services?04:05
justasicsoo.. i cant map my shift/ctrl/alt keys in ubuntu 11.04 with a wireless bluetooth keyboard.. it really sucks when you have to yell with the caps lock key04:05
bazhangFireStorms, did you read my message?04:05
rationalOgrejustasic: Sorry? Not sure what you mean. Are you saying that shift/ctrl/alt are not recognized as keypresses?04:07
justasicthey are recognized but its almost as if they are not mapped04:08
justasici tried mapping them many times but it doesn't seem to work04:08
rationalOgrejustasic: open a console and type "xev"04:08
justasicdone04:08
rationalOgrethen hit mousover the little window and hit the keys. See what they are coming up as.04:09
roddanyone on 10 could please tell me the tetris game name that comes with ubuntu?04:09
FireStormsWell I just used Synaptic Package Manager to remove MySQL and everything works, jeez talk about an easy solutions >_<04:09
ex0aAnyone know of a simple socks proxy that supports authentication? I need to be able to proxy through different IPs on my server.04:09
KM0201!tetris04:10
KM0201hmm04:10
SolomonKullrodd: on 10?  Ubuntu isnt named 1,2,3 etc.  Its named after a date.  10.something04:10
SolomonKull10 = month04:10
SolomonKullsomething = day04:10
justasicrationalOgre, http://pastebin.com/MtxBkZbu04:10
KM0201!info quadrapassel04:10
ubottuquadrapassel (source: gnome-games): Falling blocks game. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu5 (natty), package size 85 kB, installed size 1016 kB04:10
rationalOgreex0a: Polipo?04:10
SolomonKullPolipo + tor04:10
earthmeLonYes it is, SolomonKull .  10 is after 9 is after 8.   x.6/x.4 is the month04:10
KM0201rodd: i'm pretty sure thats a gnome app... but there's another "tetris" like game for Ubuntu as well, just can't think of it04:11
SolomonKullearthmeLon: No, it isnt.  There is no Ubuntu 10.  There is Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10, bit no 10.04:11
SolomonKullbut*04:11
rationalOgrejustasic: Looks right for a Left Shift04:11
earthmeLonRight, but 10 != month04:11
qinSweet.04:11
roddk will look around thx04:11
ActionParsnipearthmeLon: it is in 10.1004:12
justasicwhich is why i said it was a bluetooth keyboard.. it works just fine on my other wired usb keyboard04:12
justasicthis is weird haha04:12
SolomonKullearthmeLon: It is named after the YEAR.  The release happens to coincide with the year due to it being so close to the start of the millenium.04:12
KM0201rodd: if you search synaptic for "tetris" yhou should come up w/ several options...04:12
earthmeLonlmao, going to bed after that fail04:12
roddalready done it04:12
qinearthmeLon: No more September.04:12
KM0201rodd: so whats the problem?04:12
roddcouldnt find ti04:12
ActionParsnip!find tetris04:12
ubottuFound: gpe-tetris04:12
KM0201rodd: do you have all your repositories enabled04:12
KM0201!find quadrapassel04:13
ubottuFound: quadrapassel04:13
ActionParsnip!info gpe-tetris04:13
ubottugpe-tetris (source: gpe-tetris): tetris game for small screens and embedded devices. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.4-2 (natty), package size 30 kB, installed size 176 kB04:13
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roddquadrapassel04:15
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justasicrationalOgre, did u see what i said before?04:16
Core_UKhow do i check what options the kernal is booting with ?04:16
centHOGGuname -a04:16
centHOGGuname -r04:16
centHOGGi forget04:17
Core_UKnither of those centHOGG04:17
bazhangCore_UK, what do you need?04:17
Core_UKbazhang: to check if it is using nomodeset04:17
qinless /etc/default/grub04:17
bazhangCore_UK, check in grub204:17
centHOGGyeah04:18
Core_UKeach line in that file is a boot option?04:18
Core_UKor is it just this one: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""04:19
rwwCore_UK: cat /proc/cmdline04:19
rationalOgrejustasic: No, I didn't sorry. Not sure what is going wrong.04:20
rationalOgrejustasic: You might try googling for your ubuntu version and the name of the keyboard and see if you find anything.04:20
Core_UKrww: so i can edit that and append nomodeset to the end and save it?04:20
centHOGGrww: thx04:20
justasicrationalOgre, yeah i've been googling for a while, just came here to see if someone had a solution i havn't seen yet04:21
rwwCore_UK: No. To edit the cmdline, you need to add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in the file everyone else mentioned, run sudo update-grub, and reboot.04:22
ActionParsnipCore_UK: add it in /etc/default/grub    in the quotes with: quiet splash    save the new file, then run: sudo update-grub04:23
CarlFKCore_UK: check /boot/config-2.6.35-25-generic (or whatever your ver is) ?04:23
mrlHi, I can't see the 'Send to' feature on shotwell. I am using Xubuntu 11.0404:24
CarlFKCore_UK: oh, those parameters.  never mind :)04:24
Core_UKthank you guys for the help04:25
rationalOgremrl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1091374304:27
slkwrI'm in ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but I can't find the iso file for the latest ubuntu dvd, can anyone help please?04:27
earthmeLonHow do I remove the final gnome-panel panel in 11.04?04:27
qinearthmeLon: In classic?04:28
earthmeLonyup yup qin04:28
qinearthmeLon: gconf-editor, searching what string.04:28
earthmeLonSee a lot of tutorials, all of which aren't working (unsetting 'panel' in the gconf-editor04:28
mrlrational0gre: Thanks for the link - found that with google - the fix relies on nautilus though. Does that mean I cannot 'send to' in Xubuntu (without switching to Nautilus)?04:29
rationalOgreslkwr: Do you want Natty or Oneric?04:29
earthmeLonqin,  desktop/gnome/session/required_components only has windowmanager, which value is nothing.04:29
mrlNatty04:29
mrlNevermind04:29
ActionParsnip!torrents04:29
ubottuNatty can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/natty/desktop/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/natty/server/ubuntu-11.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com/04:29
rationalOgremrl: Don't know. There may be an xubuntu fix.04:30
rationalOgremrl: Nothing showing on google.04:30
qinearthmeLon: No panel value there?04:30
escottslkwr, http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/04:31
slkwrrationalOgre: what is the difference, and which one is the official distro?04:31
earthmeLonThere is no value for windowmanager key, qin. There are no other keys.04:31
Core_UKok i added nomodeset and rebooted but i still get the message "this driver is in use but not current activated"04:31
Core_UKshould i be concerned?04:31
escottslkwr, did you want the standard install cd or the larger language pack dvd04:31
mrlrational0gre: I think I'll raise a ticket, thanks for the help.04:32
rationalOgreslkwr: Natty is the current releas.04:32
slkwrthe full installaion which is the dvd I assume04:32
rationalOgreslkwr: Oneric is still in alpha I believe.04:32
escottslkwr, the cd is capable of a full install. the only reason for the dvd is if you dont have web access04:32
slkwrI see, I thought all distros called ubuntu :)04:32
escottor you need to install on many machines with different languages or somehting04:32
qinearthmeLon: Natty is different: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174059704:33
josephoenixHello all04:33
escottyou want a normal install then either use the links in !torrent or go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download04:33
rationalOgreslkwr: They are all ubuntu. They have an "identifier" for the version name.04:33
rationalOgreslkwr: and a number. Natty Narwhal is 11.0404:33
slkwrescott: no I prefer the full support of offline installation due to the bad internet connection04:33
earthmeLonsudo chmod -x /usr/bin/gnome-panel .  This is linux, not windows.  I really don't like this solution, but if it works.....04:33
josephoenixI have a machine I can only access by SSH. I need to change its IP address. Is there a way to do this while providing a failsafe? Or some way to check the syntax of /etc/network/interfaces?04:34
earthmeLonqin, it works :D04:34
qinearthmeLon: Are you planning on using tint2?04:34
earthmeLonTHanks04:34
slkwrIt must also be on a server with support to resuming option otherwise it will fail just the dvd from the www.ubuntu.com04:34
earthmeLonI will look into tint2, qin.  Using #cairo-dock atm04:35
escottslkwr, a torrent will resume best, but i dont know if there are dvd torrents04:35
dijonyummy123is there a command line tool that can grep or view into pdf04:35
ActionParsnipescott: sure there are04:36
qinearthmeLon: Just interested how to start it if not with gconf ;)04:36
josephoenixIs there a way to apply a new configuration to eth0 in one statement? As soon as I type ifdown, my SSH session will drop04:36
josephoenixShould I reboot?04:36
rationalOgreslkwr: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/04:36
ActionParsnipDjMadness: you can redirect to txt, then create a pdf from the txt04:36
rationalOgreslkwr: The dvd links are there as well.04:36
rationalOgreslkwr: As are the torrent links. (Which support resuming)04:36
earthmeLonYou can chain commands josephoenix:  thiscommand & thatcommand & anothercommand04:37
qinjosephoenix: write script, test localy, execute remotly.04:37
slkwrOk, I'm going to try it, thank you04:37
ActionParsnip!info text2pdf04:37
Core_UKwhen I go into Appearance Preferences I only see 3 tabs, not the Visual Effects tab ><04:37
ubottuPackage text2pdf does not exist in natty04:37
rationalOgrejosephoenix: Do you want the configuration to be perminate?04:37
josephoenixearthmeLon: will ifdown tell me if there's a problem with the configuration, though?04:37
qinActionParsnip: pdftotext04:37
ActionParsnipdijonyummy123: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/command-line-text-to-pdf-conversion-290058/04:37
josephoenixI want to know that the configuration is at least syntactically correct before trying to apply it04:38
rationalOgre*permanent04:38
ActionParsnipqin: we need the other way04:38
qinActionParsnip: texttopdf?04:38
earthmeLonjosephoenix, qin makes a good point to test locally04:38
escottActionParsnip,I think it got pulled into poppler-tools or something04:38
ActionParsnipdijonyummy123: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157557904:38
ActionParsnipescott: 2 phase method there :)04:38
josephoenixearthmeLon: I guess it's safest. Means I have to make a VM though :|04:38
earthmeLonjosephoenix, I think I've missed your objective, tbh04:39
fbdystangLogos01: ActionParsnip: I found a good benchmarking software. and it comes on ubuntu free :). In ubuntu it is phoronix-test-suite04:39
josephoenixearthmeLon: remote server is currently getting its address by DHCP from remote institution. It needs to use a static IP address. I edited /etc/network/interfaces, now I want some way to make sure it does what I want04:40
escott!info poppler-utils | ActionParsnip qin04:40
ubottuActionParsnip qin: poppler-utils (source: poppler): PDF utilities (based on Poppler). In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.4-0ubuntu1.1 (natty), package size 74 kB, installed size 308 kB04:40
josephoenix(Or let me fix it if it doesn't)04:40
slkwrthere is no intel 64biy image at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/04:40
earthmeLonjosephoenix, Do you have a copy of the ORIGINAL interfaces file?04:40
josephoenixYes, it's the ubuntu default04:41
escottslkwr, there is no such thing as intel 64bit amd made it intel copied it04:41
earthmeLonjosephoenix, Are you familiar with cron jobs?04:41
rationalOgrejosephoenix: did you ping the address you are trying to set to and/or ask the remote host if that IP is in use?04:41
Core_UKany one can help with this? "this driver is in use but not current activated"04:41
josephoenixrationalOgre: it's the address used by the server we're replacing, so it should be out of use (since the old server refuses to boot)04:42
josephoenixI'll ping it to make sure04:42
earthmeLonjosephoenix, Someone might have a better solution, but you could create a script that runs in 5/10/15m that will RESET the configuration back do default04:42
rationalOgrejosephoenix: Best to do, they may have released it to the local pool.04:42
earthmeLonjosephoenix, If you can re-connect, then you can remove it before it resets04:42
slkwrI see, so I can go on with Amd 64bit iso images, right?04:42
YankDownUnderWhy not just hardcode the network configuration in /etc/network/interfaces ?04:43
josephoenixrationalOgre: they're not nearly that organized. Took them a week to realize that power-cycling the machine wasn't bringing it back up :P04:43
escottjosephoenix, earthmeLon, rather than do it through cron just make use of && sleep 300 && within a screen session04:43
rationalOgreYankDownUnder: He has, he wants to test the config before going live with it.04:43
Logos01josephoenix: That pains me. Nagios much?04:44
josephoenixLogos01: I'm not familiar with it. They're using some proprietary "solution" for ip assignment/access control as far as I can tell.04:44
Logos01That's got nothing to do with what Nagios does/is.04:45
rationalOgrejosephoenix: earthmeLon has a decent suggestion I believe. Create a script to reset the configuration and whatnot and cron it to run in like 10 minutes, if the config works, then great, disable the cron.04:45
Logos01Nagios is a service that checks the health of remote devices and automagically generates reports (in e-mail form) based on set conditions.04:45
pookymy evolution suddenly doesn't have google as an option for adding calendars, any ideas on what I could check?04:45
Logos01I.e.; "Server at ###.###.###.### PING -- Condition CRITICAL"04:45
grubnwbok new error, Grub "Partition Not Found" please help me live and not on a fourm link04:46
EmuAlertWhat is the default filesystem in Ubuntu? How easy is it to access from Windows?04:46
ActionParsnipEmuAlert: default is Ext4 and windows currently cannot access it04:46
rationalOgreEmuAlert: ext4 and impossible04:46
Logos01grubnwb: GRUB needs to be installed to the root of the device. Not inside a partition.04:46
ActionParsniprationalOgre: only currently ;)04:46
grubnwbok and how do i fix that?04:46
Logos01rationalOgre, ActionParsnip -- up until someone makes a Windows EXT4 driver that supports journaling.04:46
rationalOgreActionParsnip: I don't see M$ worrying about supporting ext4 anytime soon.04:46
ActionParsnipEmuAlert: if you use ext3 you can access it04:46
Logos01grubnwb: Reinstall GRUB to the device.04:47
earthmeLonEmuAlert, You can, however, create an additional partition on your hdd or use a thumbdrive with fat32/ntfs.  Ubuntu has no problem reading those.04:47
josephoenixescott: ahhh, that sounds like a good strategy. What would an example line look like? I'm thinking "mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak && mv /etc/network/interfaces.new /etc/network/interfaces && ifdown eth0 && ifup eth1 && sleep 300 && (reverse of the previous two mvs)"04:47
grubnwblols How?04:47
ActionParsniprationalOgre: fs-driver team may get it added though04:47
Logos01You might try using GRUB4DOS as it is GUI and friendly. :)04:47
EmuAlertAre there no 3rd party applications to access it from Windows?04:47
grubnwbI dont like grub in the first place04:47
ActionParsnipEmuAlert: not yet04:47
grubnwbEmu alert u can accses it04:47
grubnwbi have the program 2 do it04:47
Logos01grubnwb: GRUB4DOS would be what you'd be installing.04:47
josephoenixLogos01: ahhh, gotcha. Well their official position on the matter is that it's for us to support and maintain... I guess we could set it up, if we had a second server.04:47
Logos01To the external HDD that is.04:48
escottjosephoenix, probably, just be sure to do it within screen so that when your ssh session dies the shell doesnt go with it04:48
ActionParsnipEmuAlert: and microsoft are ignorant douchebags. The definitions are free to use but they haven't. Yet Ubuntu can write and read to NTFS despite it being kept secret04:48
Logos01josephoenix: Virtual servers cost as little as $20/mo04:48
rwwActionParsnip: please mind the language, regardless of veracity :)04:48
Logos01Linode == good.04:48
qinNeat.04:48
rationalOgrejosephoenix: well you have the .new config already written, you just haven't activated it yet, correct?04:48
nit-witgrubnwb, are you dual booting windows?04:48
ActionParsnipEmuAlert: if you want to share data between the OSes, keep it on the windows one to accommodate your primitive OS, then you can access it from Ubuntu as usual04:49
grubnwbyes i am04:49
qingrubnwb: Havent you had ubuntu on external HD?04:49
nit-witgrubnwb, was the ubuntu installed from a running windows setup?04:49
escottjosephoenix, and get the keys to the server room out of the box just in case :)04:49
grubnwbyes windows was first04:50
ActionParsnipEmuAlert: it means you'll only need about 15Gb for ubuntu :)04:50
rationalOgregrubnwb: nit-wit is asking if windows was running when you installed ubuntu. (i.e. using Wubi)04:50
grubnwbno i did not use Wubi04:50
nit-witgrubnwb, not what but how did you install from a booted cd or usb or from a live windows setup?04:50
nit-witgrubnwb, if you don't like grub use easybcd04:51
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battlehandsI am attempting to install MATLAB, and I need to be logged in as a super user.  How do I do that?04:51
qingrubnwb: Please post output of: "sudo fdisk -l", without the quotes. on paste.ubuntu.com04:51
ActionParsnipbattlehands: just run the installer with sudo04:51
grubnwbok04:51
battlehandsActionParsnip, how?04:51
ActionParsnipbattlehands: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB04:51
battlehandsActionParsnip, ty04:52
ActionParsnipmat|r: all i did was websearch....04:52
grubnwbhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/624865/04:52
qinbattlehands: cd /directory/with/installer ; sudo ./installer.script04:52
grubnwbwhat do you guys use to mettion names?04:53
rww!tab04:53
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.04:53
ActionParsnipgrubnwb: tab04:53
ActionParsnipgrubnwb: type a few letters of the name and hit tab04:53
grubnwbqin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624865/04:54
qingrubnwb: Your ubuntu is on external hard drive, it is NOT good idea to install grub on main hard drive.04:54
rationalOgrejosephoenix: Still out there?04:54
grubnwbi didnt04:54
grubnwbi installed grub to the external04:54
qingrubnwb: So, what do you want to do?04:54
EmuAlertI guess I can keep my files on Windows, but it seems inefficient. ext2fsd says that it has "ext4 extent read-only" support; does that mean read-only?04:55
grubnwbwell when i boot to the harddisk it says "No such partition"04:55
grubnwbis it because i installed it to the partition that ubuntu is on and not just the hard drive it self04:55
furqanHi, I forgot my root password. How can i recover it?04:56
nit-witgrubnwb, run this script it will tell exactly what is where pastebin all the text.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/04:56
qingrubnwb: rightto, can you push: df -h on .paste.ubuntu.com?04:56
slkwrescott / rationalOgre : both links are not full dvds04:56
slkwrescott / rationalOgre : both links are not full dvds04:56
Logos01furqan: Choose the "recovery" mode at GRUB. when you get to the "#" prompt, execute "passwd {username} {newpassword}"04:57
qinfurqan: Did you have any?04:57
Logos01Gah -- sorry, that's passwd {username} and then you'll be asked to give it a new password.04:57
slkwrescott / rationalOgre : both links are not full dvds04:57
rationalOgreslkwr: Don't spam. The link to the DVD is on that page.04:57
slkwrI found this if you're interested to add to your bookmarks http://swtsrv.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu-dvd-release/04:57
rationalOgrehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/ubuntu-11.04-dvd-amd64.iso04:57
grubnwb!tabqin http://paste.ubuntu.com/624869/04:57
escottslkwr, the ones that say dvd are as full as the dvds ubuntu provides are.04:57
grubnwbqin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624869/04:58
escottEmuAlert, yes. one of the features of ext4 are extends and those are supported read only by that tool04:58
slkwrno offense rationalOgre :)04:58
slkwrjust wanted to give you waht I found if you want ...cheers04:58
josephoenixWell, thanks all04:58
josephoenixescott: I used your idea and all went well04:59
josephoenix\o/04:59
grubnwbqin: im running of a live disk right now04:59
bullgard4Can I upgrade from Ubuntu yet if I have installed it from the »ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition«?04:59
qingrubnwb: Oh, whats not mounted (external hd)04:59
escottjosephoenix, lies nothing that good ever happens to me :-P04:59
Logos01bullgard4: You *should* be able to run distupgrade still.04:59
furqanqin, yes i have all passwords except root.05:00
rationalOgreslkwr: I don't see the difference between the link you gave and the one I did. As long as you select the ones with -dvd- in them they are the same05:00
josephoenixescott: well then I will say it's working... for NOW :P05:00
nit-witgrubnwb, I would run the bootscript bro.05:00
grubnwbok05:00
bullgard4Logoos01: "*should* means that you are not certain?05:00
rationalOgrejosephoenix: Glad to hear it worked.05:00
qingrubnwb: from nit-wit: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/05:01
josephoenix:] thanks for your help too rationalOgre, I didn't see your mention up there05:01
qinfurqan: root do not have password05:02
rationalOgrejosephoenix: no worries, it can get pretty busy in here.05:02
Core_UKIf anyone understands AWN please see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178040705:02
furqanqin, No, it has but i forgot it.05:03
escottCore_UK, what wm are you running05:03
grubnwbqin: i downloaded it, how do i run it (im a ubuntu newbie)05:03
Core_UKescott: not sure, how can I check?05:04
qinfurqan: sudo -i, and follow with password change, but it is not good to have root password (one more think to worry about)05:04
Core_UKescott: possibly emerald05:04
escottCore_UK, ps aux | egrpe "(metacity|compiz)"05:04
nit-witgrubnwb, drag it to the desktop and run this command, from the generated file copy all the text and pastebin it.    sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh05:05
qingrubnwb: in directory where script is: ./scriptname or sudo ./scriptname (if required))05:05
EmuAlertescott: Late thanks05:05
Juankofhello to all.05:06
furqanqin, Thank you05:06
qinnit-wit: I need to type or read faster ;)05:06
furqanqin, it worked05:06
Core_UKescott: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/8030/05:06
qinfurqan: Still, BAD idea05:06
grubnwbqin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624873/05:06
nit-witqin, ;)05:06
escottCore_UK, that could be the source of the problem. you are running metacity meaning that you don't have composition enabled, so you dont have true transparency. all you can have is fake transparency which may be why you are ending up with grey like that05:08
grubnwbnitwit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624873/05:08
nit-witgrubnwb, is that all of the text?05:08
MK``Is it possible for me to have the top panel be 2 dimensional, so I can have 2 rows of things in it?05:08
grubnwbnit-wit: yes05:08
codeshahhey guys, trying to figure out how to install senderid in ubuntu - sid-milter does not exist it seems when I do apt-get install05:08
archana8763Hi. How do I restart the panels?05:08
Core_UKescott: I will try and change WM05:08
Core_UKescott: searching google now :P05:08
escottMK``, add another panel below the second one. you can make it thicker but not all applets support it05:08
resnohey yall. what are the permissions suppose to be for home directory? 757?05:09
escottresno, 75505:09
resnoescott: so it would be chmod 755 dir?05:09
epygraph4uHi05:10
nit-witgrubnwb, have you been able to boot the ubuntu since you installed it ot the other two MS installs i=on the sda HD?05:10
escottresno, yes, and double check that nothing else was affected. that 7 at the end made all your personal data available to ANYONE logged into your computer05:10
nit-wit*or05:10
epygraph4uHow do I get the global menu for Ubuntu05:10
Core_UKok how do I change window manager? :)05:10
resnoescott: heh, im helping a friend that borked his home dir permissions05:10
BronxDad1956_i think ubuntu has the best install of all the linux listed in distrowatch.com05:11
MK``Core_UK: do you have another installed?05:11
escottresno, i actually have 700 on mine which is probably better05:11
BronxDad1956_the easiest install05:11
Core_UKMK``: No idea05:11
grubnwbnit-wit: i dont really understand what you are getting at but. I have not been able to boot into ubuntu.05:11
nit-witgrubnwb, it looks like you treid to reload grub with other then a Natty disc is this the case?05:11
Core_UKMK``: I have Emerald theme manager...05:11
escottresno, the folders inside it have 755 but the main ~ folder is 70005:12
MK``Core_UK: you need to install another to use another of course. There's lots of them, such as Enlightenment and xfwm405:12
grubnwbnit-wit: I have tried multiple disks05:12
nit-witgrubnwb, I getting at where you are in the proicess it helps eh.05:12
Core_UKMK``: I want one with composition05:12
Core_UKMK``: I think :)05:12
resnoescott: ah gotcha05:12
MK``xfwm4 is compositing, as are Metacity and Compiz (the ones that come with Ubuntu right now)05:13
escottCore_UK, if you have glx you can just do compiz --replace05:13
nit-witgrubnwb, you have 9.10 you used that one correct?05:13
grubnwbnitwit: yes05:13
Core_UKescott: Awesome!!!05:14
nit-witgrubnwb, so the original error you came on with "Partition Not Found" happens when you boot the external?05:15
nit-witgrubnwb, it is looking for partion 5 your Ubuntu is on 205:16
grubnwbnit-wit: yes i get that error when i attempt to boot to it05:16
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grubnwbnit-wit: how do i rederect it?05:16
nit-witgrubnwb, follow this guide with the 9.10 cd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files05:17
fbdystangIs there a way to view samba shares on a cell phone/smartphone?05:17
hasek79how do i install the global menu?05:17
nit-witgrubnwb, run the sudo fdisk -l to make sure your still read sdb2 as the ubuntu install.05:18
grubnwbnit-wit: will it over-write current grub? i just want 2 make sure that the bugged one is going away05:18
ubuntuguyI want to use gnome phone manager in ubuntu 11.04, how can I add it to whitelist so it will appear as indicator status05:18
nit-witgrubnwb, should you just reloading the mbr05:18
nit-wit*you're05:18
grubnwbnit-wit: its showing me how to install grub (or re-install it)05:19
grubnwbnit-wit: "restoreing a broken systems grub files"05:19
nit-witgrubnwb, you have grub in the ubuntu and in the mbr this just reloads the mbr to point at the correct partition====sdb2.;)05:20
nit-wit8grub205:20
nit-wit*grub2 that is05:20
grubnwbnit-wit: ok i will try this now. I owe you big time if this works. Thanks in advance05:20
nit-witgrubnwb, the files are not technically broken just instructed to look in the wrong place.05:21
grubnwbok05:21
Syaoraanghola, alguien que hable español?05:23
escott!es | Syaoraang05:23
ubottuSyaoraang: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.05:23
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MK``how can I restart my panel?05:24
YankDownUnderALT-F2 => gnome-panel05:24
fbdystangSyaoraang: si hablo espanol. Cual pregunta tiene?05:24
YankDownUnder!ubuntu-es05:25
YankDownUnder!es05:25
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.05:25
Syaoraangno pues no tengo pregunta, solo platicar y ya05:25
Syaoraang:)05:25
fbdystanghaha ok05:25
MK``hm it didn't restart this applet.05:25
qinMK``: gnome-panel --replace or:05:25
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qin!resetpanel05:25
ubottuTo reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »05:25
MK``well, gnome-panel --replace crashed my panel05:26
escottMK``, just killall gnome-panel and then start it again05:27
josephoenix#ubuntu, what would be a good way to have a "shared hosting" type setup where multiple user accounts have permission to edit each "site". Would I need to have a group for each site, then, instead of the usual pattern of having one user account per site?05:27
Syaoraangwell i have a question: Is this a service to share experiences in linux or also we can use it like a simple chat service?05:28
qinjosephoenix: site?05:28
escottSyaoraang, support channel for chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic05:28
josephoenixqin: I don't know if you've ever used cpanel or plesk, but that's the idea I'm going for (though not as complicated obviously)05:28
josephoenixqin: basically a virtualhost and separate document root for a web server05:29
grubnwbnit-wit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624878/05:30
qinjosephoenix: sudo mkdir /home/sharedstuff && sudo addgroup sharedstuff && sudo chown root:sharedstuff /home/sharedstuff && sudo chmod 770 /home/sharedstuff , add users to sharedstuff group, done05:30
qinjosephoenix: oh, webserver...05:31
nit-witgrubnwb, this command should have no number look at the page again. sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb      this is haow it should look.05:31
josephoenixThe old setup was having subdomains served from folders under /srv/05:31
josephoenixBut all the group management was done by hand05:32
nit-witgrubnwb, one has sdb2 one just sdb05:32
josephoenixIt's a mess :|05:32
grubnwbnit-wit: i did i did it on the ubuntu partition (sdb2)05:32
nit-witgrubnwb, look at the page the second command has no partition number.05:32
grubnwbnit-wit: grub-setup: error: Cannot read `/grub/core.img' correctl05:32
nit-witgrubnwb, hold on I will give you the two commands in a pastebin.05:33
escottgrubnwb, if you attempt to do a grub-install to a partition with number it should complain loudly05:33
grubnwbnit-wit: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb205:33
escottgrubnwb, no number in that command05:34
grubnwb?05:34
nit-witgrubnwb, that command should not ahe the numer 2 there just sdb05:34
nit-wit*have05:34
escottgrubnwb, you install grub to the mbr which is on the device not partition 2 of the device so its just /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb205:34
b0101Hi guys, I am trying to run Wubi, but i get an error implying that install.iso is not found, Its there. By the way, I am running truecrypt. does that affect wubi?05:35
grubnwbescott: im trying to get grub to point to that partition05:35
tripelbI would like help with burning a dvd. I dont think I need help in actually burning it. (bracero?) but I have AVI files and i want the disk I make to be able to play on a DVD player. That's my issue. Will you take this problem as my teacher?05:35
nit-witgrubnwb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/624885/05:36
escottgrubnwb, thats what the root-directory argument is for, the unflagged argument is where the boot loader is to be installed05:36
nit-witgrubnwb, these command from the live 9.10 in a terminal.05:36
tripelbAsecond thing. I have a neighbor/friend who had a windows 98 computer and I want to put some linux on it that will play avi files. He had 98 (sic) MB of RAM. only.05:37
MK``My panel won't load now... when it launches it stays at the top and just jitters, so I can't use gnome anymore, I am in Unity now. How do I delete a panel from here?05:37
escott!resetpanel | MK``05:38
ubottuMK``: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »05:38
grubnwbnit-wit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624886/05:38
MK``Will that delete all my shortcuts?05:38
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escotttripelb, you will want something very lightweight, the closest to ubuntu would be stock debian05:38
tripelbescott, what did it mean that ubottu said !terminal and not terminal?05:38
escott!terminal | tripelb05:39
ubottutripelb: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:39
tripelbI thought someone mentioned archlinux or puppy?05:39
MK``ok brb...05:39
CarlFKescott: why debian and not xbuntu?05:39
tripelbescptt I thought someone mentioned archlinux or puppy?05:39
escottCarlFK, i dont know much about xbuntu is all05:39
tripelbescott: ok it was a suggestion to go ask ubottu more. ty05:40
ZykoticK9CarlFK, xubuntu is very close to ubuntu in resource requirements, lubuntu is light in comparison05:40
CarlFKZykoticK9: oh right.  thanks.05:40
escotttripelb, in any case any of those would be fine, you probably couldn't run the full gnome/kde/unity desktop so I wouldnt try05:41
grubnwbnit-wit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624886/ (just makeing sure u got it)05:41
nit-witgrubnwb, you have extra punctuation in the second command   (`)--boot-directory=/mnt/boot(')      remove these and run it agaun itif you look at the error in the last pastebin it points out that specif stanza.05:41
tripelbescott no chance for lubuntu -- Minimum requirements for lubuntu are comparable to Pentium II or Celeron systems with a 128 Mb RAM configuration, which may yield a slow yet usable system with lubuntu.05:41
tripelbI would guess he has a 48605:42
grubnwbnit-wit: can you just paste the command for me becuase i really dont get that05:42
nit-witgrubnwb, copy and paste the commands from here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/624885/05:42
MK```ok; where are my old shortcuts?05:42
nit-witgrubnwb, just did05:42
CarlFKtripelb: 486 is going to be really painful trying to play movies.05:42
escotttripelb, no its at least a pentium for win 9805:43
nit-witgrubnwb, it may be that you need to reboot the cd and run the two commands I hve posted, the punctuation was in the error not your command my bad.05:43
tripelbescott, thanks. I need to actually get at the physical computer. I'm still trying to talk him into a purchase of something better. Today I repeated tht you could plug a laptop into a monitor. he wondered, can you plug it into a tv? (I cant read him.)05:44
MK```When I put 2 panels on the top, gnome panel stops working :(05:45
grubnwbnit-wit: i get the samething (http://paste.ubuntu.com/624886/)05:45
qintripelb: rgb to analog converter cost about 50 bucks05:45
nit-witgrubnwb, do you realize you have installed a distro that is not supported it is EOL end of life.05:45
ActionParsniptripelb: you can build something usable for the price of a 6 pack :)05:45
Ryan_Macyhey guys im trying to install symfony 2.0 on my lighttpd ubuntu server05:45
Ryan_Macydoes anyone know of a guide?05:45
tripelbescott carkfk thanks. talking here led me to better search terms and more results. (qin -ty)05:45
Xcytre1i've put slack ware on a 48605:45
tripelbactionparsnip, he's not a terminal guy. He's only gui.05:46
Spektreiislackware on 386 with a math co-processor was my first ever install of linux.05:46
grubnwbnit-wit: i understand all of my other disks are faulty05:46
tripelbXcytre1, the aim is movies, maybe youtube. Not just linux. He uses 98 well.05:46
ActionParsniptripelb: look on ebay or local shops for low end systems, should be ok to run Lubuntu on05:46
Spektreii4mb of ram...  wheee!05:46
grubnwb4mb?! lol05:47
Spektreiii know right05:47
tripelbSpektreii, I saw that post. (he has 98)05:47
Spektreiii still dont know a damn thing though05:47
nit-witgrubnwb, so here is gthe deal hyou have a script that shows if you load grub correct it should boot. But you have installed a non supported distro. Now at this point we are having problems getting this install to boot, shuld we just put a supporetd version on in its place?05:47
escottgrubnwb, --root-directory not --boot-directory05:48
tripelbfound this! -- 've done a complete install of Ubuntu 5.10 on a 100Mhz with 64Meg of RAM, including KDE and development environment. It worked.05:48
pishguyhi all. this script dose not running in bash script:http://paste.debian.net/119580/05:49
escotttripelb, but that is long since eoled you wont find any debs or repos for it05:49
qintripelb: some people saying that you can run centOS in cisco... calculators.05:49
DW-DrewIs it possible to get a list of installed packages from a non-bootable system?05:51
escottDW-Drew, chroot in and use the normal tricks05:51
phoenixlzxis there any one using ThinkPad T420?05:51
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yagooDW-Drew, u can go into a dead system using chroot05:53
DW-Drewescott, I don't think that's an option, as it's the 32/64 split that makes the system unbootable05:53
escottDW-Drew, copy the dpkg files off to a fake system and interrogate that system05:54
ActionParsniptripelb: you can get a more than usable system on ebay for 50-75 quid05:54
escottDW-Drew, although do you really want to trust the package list from a system that has a broken libc05:54
MK```Ok, since I'm not going to get help with that... The issue I had before of the same iconset being used between reboots is still present. It seems to alternate consistently; if it uses A, it will use B when it reboots, and it will use A next time.05:55
K1LL9after help with extended desktop in ubunt 11.04 x6405:55
K1LL9can anyone help me05:55
K1LL9ubuntu 10.11 the extended desktop worked fine, done a upgrade to 11.04, and now my extended monitors wont work, only same image on both :(05:56
escottMK```, are these full cold reboots or cold reboot followed by logout/login05:56
DW-DrewI'm not gonna blind-feed it for a re-install, just looking for a list of what was there so I don't forget things that I specifically installed05:56
MK```both do the same escott05:56
Spektreiikill9 depends on the driver you are using...  if its ati or nvidia you need to download the restricted drivers to get them to work right05:56
tripelbActionParsnip, ty.  Looks up quid.  (not really)  :)05:57
ActionParsniptripelb: ;)05:57
Spektreiikill9 from there, the respective control center (i forget what nvidia's is called) will get you on multiple monitors.05:57
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pishguyhi all. this script dose not running in bash script:http://paste.debian.net/119580/06:01
escottpishguy, remove the sh06:03
IboShello all06:04
IboSi want to put an alias for the following cmd how to edit my .bashrc file to get it good ?06:05
IboShttp://pastebin.com/n4yZWgji06:05
ActionParsnipIboS: there are examples in the file, have a read, copy the syntax06:05
IboSActionParsnip: i tried the simple stuff06:05
IboSaudioencode = cmd06:06
IboSbut it doesn't take all options of the cmd ?06:06
ActionParsnipIboS: what alias do you want and wha is the command for the alias?06:07
IboSActionParsnip: check out the pastebin06:07
ActionParsnipIboS: gimme 206:07
IboShttp://pastebin.com/n4yZWgji06:07
ActionParsnipIboS: why not make it into a script06:08
IboSnope to slow06:08
ActionParsnipIboS: you can then use arguments and make the command reusable06:08
ActionParsnipIboS: how will it be slow>?06:08
IboSanyway06:08
IboSi don't want a script06:08
ActionParsnipIboS: how would using it in a script be any slower than an alias?06:09
IboSthat's not the problem06:09
rypervencheIboS: It's not always about what you want. if it works, it works.06:09
IboSi don't think so06:09
ActionParsnipIboS: can you answer though, I can rejig this so you can add it as an alias, no problem06:09
ActionParsnipIboS: how will it be slower?06:09
SpektreiiIbos, an alias means that you want to shorten a command or make it easier to remember, the paste that you gave shows multiple flags that you could alias, but youre not going to be able to alias all the flags into a single command.06:10
IboSSpektreii: ok :)06:10
Spektreiifor example, you could do something like alias mplayerq='mplayer -quiet'06:10
rypervencheActionParsnip: I doubt he'll answer.06:11
endriagohola a todos06:11
ActionParsnipIboS: http://pastebin.com/0wAhBzVU06:12
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endriagohay alguien de chile?06:12
IboSActionParsnip: i did that but it doesn't work06:12
IboSbecause file names change06:13
ActionParsnipIboS: or you can use: http://pastebin.com/DHNUuwFU06:13
pishguyescott: not running:  gksu -m 'Please enter your own password' sep_video06:13
ActionParsnipIboS: EXACTLY, that's why you need a script06:13
escottpishguy, you generally want gksudo not gksu06:13
ActionParsnipIboS: my second paste takes arguments, so you can call the script someting then feed it 2 filenames and they will be used06:13
ActionParsnipIboS: why is a script too slow (as you say)?06:14
ZykoticK9escott, is there a difference?  I thought they where the same.06:14
IboSbecause i'm too lazy to write it ActionParsni06:14
pishguyescott: whats different about them ?06:14
Spektreiilol06:14
pishguyescott: must be use gksudo ?06:14
ActionParsnipIboS: well you asked how to add it in bashrc, it's exactly the same06:14
ActionParsnipIboS: and I'm GIVING you the code, so it's not slower at all, is it? It's the same as me giving you the code to put in bashrc06:15
SpektreiiActionParsnip i think that was the point, to get you to write the script for him06:15
IboSyeah i had problem with file names06:16
ActionParsnipSpektreii: it's the same as him/her asking for the line to add in bashrc06:16
IboSand "" '06:16
ActionParsnipIboS: you need to think more, adding to bashrc and a script are not any slower when you are asking people for pretty much the same text06:16
ActionParsnipIboS: as I said, the script is reusable as you can give it arguments06:17
rypervencheIboS: Just write the script then alias the script name, voilà.06:17
escottpishguy, ZykoticK9 same difference between su and sudo. one asks for the users password the other asks for roots password06:17
ZykoticK9escott, i don't think so06:17
rypervencheThere are other differences too. I prefer to use sudo because it uses my user's folders and preferences.06:18
grubnwbhello agian06:18
ActionParsnipescott: su means switch user, or run as a differnt user, sudo is used to run commands as root06:18
grubnwbok now "unknown filesystem" witch makes NO sence at all06:19
escottman gksu: "gksu  is  a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo."06:19
ZykoticK9escott, "man gksu" or "man gksudo" they are the same06:19
faryshtahttp://pastebin.com/b2E9GBXz I get an error on the last line because that line executes **before** the other commands have finished. How can I avoid that?06:20
ActionParsnipescott: try:    file /usr/bin/gksudo; file /usr/bin/gksu06:20
grubnwbGrub error: "Unknown Filesystem" please help06:21
theadmingrubnwb: On which partition?06:21
grubnwbsdb206:21
escottActionParsnip, ZykoticK9 I'm not saying they are different binaries, just saying they are different commands06:21
theadmingrubnwb: Not telling me much. Is that the Linux partition?06:21
grubnwbyes06:21
pishguyescott: gksudo -m 'Please enter your own password' sep_video   ???? not running06:21
ActionParsnipescott: how is that possible? they are one and the same thing, the only difference is the name06:22
grubnwbits a ex4 partition06:22
theadminActionParsnip: gksu is *supposed* to use su as a backend you know06:22
escottActionParsnip, the same way busybox is a single binary it checks ARGV[0]06:22
ActionParsniptheadmin: doesn't matter what it's supposed to be, the files are identical06:23
grubnwbtheadmin: its an ext4 partition06:23
theadmingrubnwb: Okay... Odd. You sure your configs of GRUB are fine?06:23
ActionParsnipescott: how is it different when one is a symlink?06:23
escottActionParsnip given that gksu is used for guis they may have made it intelligent enough to fail over into gksudo mode, but thats not mentioned in the man pages06:23
theadminActionParsnip: On Ubuntu maybe :D06:23
ActionParsniptheadmin: that's some crazy voodoo06:23
IboShello06:23
ActionParsnip:)06:23
grubnwbtheadmin: i just re-installed grub because of the "no such partition" error06:23
IboShow to code in bash ?06:23
theadminIboS: 1) take a piano, 2) go to #bash06:24
* rypervenche headdesks.06:24
ActionParsnipIboS: the top line of a text file must be #!/bin/bash    then the remaining lines are the commands you want to run06:24
escottActionParsnip, lots of binaries do this. you check ARGV[0] and figure out what the command was called as, and then execute a different code path. git-blah does this, busybox does this, gksu does this06:24
ActionParsnipIboS: mark the file as executable, you have a script ready to roll06:24
ZykoticK9theadmin, gksu vs gksudo - it's a symlink in Debian as well...06:24
IboSwell that's like batch in windows06:25
IboSpretty simple06:25
K1LL9Spektreii are you still on this channel?06:25
theadminZykoticK9: Actually, I now see that they are identical and you use gksu-properties to set the backend06:25
rationalOgreActionParsnip: On my arch box I had to install sudo separately. I had su on the system always.06:25
ActionParsnipescott: let me look into ARGV[0]06:25
rationalOgrefwiw06:26
rypervencherationalOgre: Yep, Arch is naked like that by default :P06:26
escottZykoticK9, ActionParsnip next time you are in the rescue system notice how everything is just a symlink to /bin/busybox06:26
ActionParsnipIboS: yes, but bash is a LOT more powerful, its more like powershell in windows06:26
K1LL9can anyone help me06:26
K1LL9ubuntu 10.11 the extended desktop worked fine, done a upgrade to 11.04, and now my extended monitors wont work, only same image on both :(06:26
ActionParsnipescott: do you mean root recovery console?06:26
K1LL9after help with extended desktop in ubunt 11.04 x6406:26
escottCopy your initrd from /boot and gunzip it06:26
theadminrationalOgre: Most systems don't have sudo, even desktop ones often don't :D06:26
ActionParsnipK1LL9: what video chip do you use?06:27
escotteverything in /bin will be a symlink to busybox06:27
ActionParsnipescott: doing it (very up for learning :))06:27
grubnwbAnyone help me with a grub problem06:28
escottanyways this was getting far from the point which is that while gksu might work, its not technically the right command in this case because in ubuntu we can su -u root, so to avoid possible problems just use gksudo06:28
escotts/can/can't/06:28
escottgrubnwb, you still struggling with that? the chroot method is slightly trickier to setup, but is an easier command to execute06:29
escott!grub | grubnwb06:29
ubottugrubnwb: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)06:29
escottgrubnwb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot06:30
ActionParsnipescott: I cannot gunzip initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic, or am I doing something wrong here?06:30
monish001Hello. I just installed LAMP on ubuntu server. Why the http.conf is empty by default. This is not so in case of windows.06:31
theadminmonish001: If I recall right, on Ubuntu it's actually "apache2.conf"06:31
grubnwbescott: Im getting a "unknown filesystem" error it is a ext4 one though06:31
escottActionParsnip, rename it to initrd.gz then gunzip it will create a disk image file you can loop mount06:31
ActionParsnipescott: ahhh, gotcha. Thanks06:32
K1LL9ActionParsnip, i am using a thinkpad t400, so what ever they use06:32
K1LL9is there anyway to find out?06:32
monish001theadmin: thank you06:32
ZykoticK9K1LL9, "lspci | grep -i vga"06:32
faryshtahttp://pastebin.com/b2E9GBXz I get an error on the last line because that line executes **before** the other commands have finished. How can I avoid that?06:34
escottActionParsnip, I'm not sure what type of fs it is though so I can't figure how to loop mount it06:35
theadminfaryshta: We aren't the JavaScript help channel you know?06:35
escottActionParsnip, its not actually a disk image its a cpio which you have to extract06:36
Drone4fouri lost my wirless connection to my router and thus to the internet.  the error message simply says: wireless is disabled by hardware switch.  i googled it and came across this ubuntu forum thread to which i replied and included the input and output of various commands: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177967606:37
ActionParsnipescott: i found a command to mount it, just sniffing around06:37
escottActionParsnip, cpio -i (beware it drops it into the CWD)06:37
ActionParsnipescott: mount -t sysfs file mountpoint -o loop06:38
Yuval90Hello. i installed ubuntu with VM Player on a machine running Windows. I installed an apache server on the ubuntu machine. Is there anyway I can view sites hosted on ubuntu through my windows machine (in the browser)?06:38
K1LL9ZykoticK9, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)06:39
K1LL9ActionParsnip, the dirver i am using: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)06:39
ActionParsnipYuval90: sure, just access the vmware systems IP address06:39
ActionParsnipK1LL9: i'm not too great with those, but others may be able to advise06:39
K1LL9ActionParsnip, thnak you06:40
ActionParsnipescott: i'm not seeing a bin file in this mounting, let me dig06:41
escottturns out they don't actually use the symlinks06:41
escottbut you can do the same trick with any busybox just ln -s /bin/busybox mkdir06:42
escottand then do ./mkdir test06:42
escottit will make a directory called test06:42
escottdespite the fact that you called ./mkdir which is a symlink to /bin/busybox06:43
Yuval90ActionParsnip> When i check the DHCP table the virtual host is not showing up06:43
Yuval90though it does have internet connection06:43
ActionParsnipescott: and I gues it wil run mkdir as expected06:43
escottso /bin/busybox gets loaded and looks at the command line and sees "mkdir" and "test" and then makes a dir06:43
ActionParsnipYuval90: then its a vmware config you'll need. I'd ask in #vmware06:43
praveen_i am getting an error while running this command in Quickly- http://paste.ubuntu.com/624909/06:44
ActionParsnipescott: gotcha, thanks for the lesson :)06:44
Yuval90thnx06:44
escottActionParsnip, its a little disappointing the initrd doesnt have the symlinks, presumably something cpio doesn't support, but it makes all those initial scripts harder as they have to say /bin/busybox mkdir whatever instead of /bin/mkdir whatever06:45
K1LL9ZykoticK9, are you there?06:45
ZykoticK9K1LL9, ya?06:45
ActionParsnipescott: tis a bit messy06:45
K1LL9i found the graphic driver06:46
K1LL9the dirver i am using: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)06:46
ZykoticK9K1LL9, i don't have any suggestions for you dual monitor issue sorry.  Best of luck.06:46
ActionParsnipescott: well i had to tax my brains. I've nearly done my 12 hour shift and nothing exciting happened at all, so at least there is that06:46
K1LL9ZykoticK9, thanks06:47
ZykoticK9K1LL9, actually, System / Preferences / Monitor (or however that works under Unity) - verify that "same image on all monitors" isn't checked.06:47
K1LL9that is unticked06:50
K1LL9ZykoticK9, i have that unticked, like the monitor detects my make and model of my dual monitor06:50
K1LL9and the correct resolutino06:50
ZykoticK9K1LL9, sorry - i don't have any further suggestions.  Best of luck.06:50
SnakkahDoes anyone here use AWN? I've noticed that Java apps, when they are put as launchers, do not use the launcher icon as the application icon like other apps do. Instead, another icon opens. Why does this happen and is there any way to fix it?06:51
K1LL9but when i enable it, it comes up with a black window, and doesnt allow anything to be displayed on the desktop/screen, only has the taskbar that comes across06:51
pishguyescott: not running :(06:53
Drone4fouri lost my wirless connection to my router and thus to the internet.  the error message simply says: wireless is disabled by hardware switch.  i googled it and came across this ubuntu forum thread to which i replied and included the input and output of various commands: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177967606:53
escottpishguy, i'm not really sure what this sep_video thing is, but make sure it is in the path or give the full path to it06:54
rationalOgreDrone4four: Have a switch/button/etc. somewhere on your lapto to enable/disable wireless?06:54
rationalOgreDrone4four: Or a function key combo.06:55
pishguyescott: sep_video is shell script:sed -i 's/Section "Device"/Section "Device"\n\tOption "TwinView" "True"\n\tOption "TwinViewOrientation"\"LeftOf"\n\tOption\ "UseEdidFreqs" "False"\n\tOption "MetaModes" "1024x768"\n\tOption "UseDisplayDevice" "CRT,DFP"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:55
escottpishguy, well add the #!/bin/bash shebang to it, mark it executable, and if it isn't in the path include the full path in your gksudo command06:56
ZykoticK9escott, why would pishguy need gksudo for such a command?  Wouldn't sudo make more sense?06:57
Drone4fouras a matter of fact, rationalOgre, i do have a function key which looks like an i with waves emanating from it like a radio tower06:57
Drone4fouri was playing with that function key06:57
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Drone4fourand just tried pressing it, but i still can't connect to the internet06:58
rationalOgreDrone4four: Did you chord the key? Most keys like that you have to hold another key to activate it.06:58
escottZykoticK9, I haven't read the script yet :) this all seems horribly fragile pishguy should use xrandr if possible06:58
Drone4fourrationalOgre, what do you mean by chord?06:59
rationalOgreDrone4four: See the Fn key between your CTRL and Windows keys?06:59
Drone4fouryes06:59
rationalOgreHold it and hit the key with the wireless icon06:59
ZykoticK9escott, ya, i'm not sure why xorg.conf changes would need to be scripted exactly?  but gksudo with sed commands doesn't make any sense to me either.06:59
Drone4fourthat's what i did06:59
Drone4fourthere, it worked06:59
pishguyescott: command with gksu and gksudo not running06:59
quietoneI can't get Rhythmbox to import files via ftp (at home). Totem works,  Rb does nothing and I can't find any error msgs. Should this work?06:59
Drone4fouri just had to hold it down for 5 seconds07:00
rationalOgreDrone4four: Sometimes you have to hit it a time or two.07:00
Drone4fourthanks rationalOgre07:00
rationalOgreDrone4four: You're welcome.07:00
Drone4four=D07:00
escottpishguy, try this with xrandr, if thats not possible change the script to swap some xorg.conf template files around rather than use sed07:00
rationalOgreDrone4four: For future reference, hitting keys in tandem is called chording.07:01
rationalOgreLike CTRL+ALT+DEL07:01
pishguyescott: how to use it for seprator output video?07:02
Drone4fouri'll keep that in mind for future reference, rationalOgre07:02
ZykoticK9rationalOgre, "chording" a new word for my vocabulary, thanks.07:02
JokesOnYou77hi all07:03
escottpishguy, is twinview nvidia? if so you cant use xrandr, but at least just make two files xorg.conf.normal and xorg.conf.twinview and have the script cp the desired file to xorg.conf07:03
escottpishguy, im too tired to think at this point, but you don't need gksudo for this, you can use normal sudo07:04
ZykoticK9escott, twinview is nvidia yes.07:04
pishguyescott: its complete my script : http://paste.ubuntu.com/624920/07:06
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rationalOgreZykoticK9: It comes from musical instruments, specifically piano. A long time ago I tried to learn emacs from an old manual and it called it "chording", always stuck with me as I played piano as a kid.07:07
ZykoticK9rationalOgre, DDG gave "Chording means pushing several keys or buttons simultaneously to achieve a result." so exactly what you said - i see the music/piano reference07:08
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Guest26781?07:09
bigbangwhere chrome extensions are stored in ubuntu07:10
rationalOgreGuest26781: Did you just randomly renamed?07:10
ActionParsnipbigbang: probably in ~/.config/chromium smoewhere07:11
bigbangActionParsnip, I am not able to get into directory .config how i can go into it07:11
theadminbigbang: Ctrl+H first07:12
pishguywhats problem in this command: i can't use that in bash script: http://paste.debian.net/119584/07:12
theadminbigbang: Any file/folder which starts with a . is hidden07:12
ZykoticK9bigbang, in a terminal "cd ~/.config" should work07:12
bigbangthanks07:12
ActionParsnipbigbang: press CTRL+H to show hidden folders07:12
theadminpishguy: That it's split across several lines07:12
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pishguysplited that for paste on paste.debian.net07:13
rationalOgrea quick google (shocker there) says ~/.cache/google-chrome (if you are using google's chrome, or .cache/chromium07:13
lalalalalalalalaI like Ubuntu for the most part, but I am wondering if there are any tools to help me learn Mandarin?07:14
theadminpishguy: Well, gksu is intended for GUI tools, not just for any commands07:14
theadminpishguy: You might need to pass all that to gnome-terminal -e for it to work07:14
murlidhariced tea plugin is failing to initialize the java applets in natty . it worked pretty good in maverick . can anyone help me set it properly ?07:14
lalalalalalalalalike I like Rosetta Stone but when I pop the CD in it wont install so I would like a program that can either use the Mandarin CDs I have or another application entirely to help me lean07:15
lalalalalalalalas/lean/learn07:15
pishguytheadmin: i want to getting password from GUI07:15
theadminpishguy: Read the zenity's manual07:16
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theadminpishguy: It'll help.07:16
theadminThough...07:16
theadminNot sure here07:16
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: 浸泡是最好的方式来学习一门语言07:16
pishguytheadmin: command is sed . i'm not use zenity for that07:16
lalalalalalalalarationalOgre I don't have eastern language fonts installed07:17
lalalalalalalalaI need to install the language pack I know07:17
pishguytheadmin: gksu sed -i 's/ ..................07:17
lalalalalalalalaromajin is ok though07:17
theadminpishguy: I know... Well, I dunno, what if you do gksu gnome-terminal -e 'sed -i \'s/ ...07:18
lalalalalalalalaI wish I had programming skills to make rosetta stone work on Ubuntu07:18
pishguytheadmin: gnome-terminal -e 'sed -i \'s/ ...  not runng from bash script07:19
ZykoticK9pishguy, if you just replace gksu with sudo does it work?07:19
pishguytheadmin: its complete my script : http://paste.ubuntu.com/624920/07:19
JokesOnYou77lalalalalalalala: if you have enough RAM you could always use a windows virtual box07:20
lalalalalalalalaJokesOnYou77, if I could afford a Windows license I would payday isnt til the friday after next07:21
lalalalalalalalayou think I would be running Linux if I could afford 7? lol07:21
rwwI can afford Windows 7 and I run Linux :)07:22
theadminlalalalalalalala: That's pretty offensive you know?07:22
lalalalalalalalawhy is it offensive theadmin?07:22
theadminlalalalalalalala: It indirectly calls all Linux users either people who can't afford Windows or idiots :/07:23
lalalalalalalalaactually no your view is a bit warped, as in my case, I need an application to run that work requires me to run at home07:23
lalalalalalalalaI own no windows license so I run Ubuntu07:24
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: how computer proficient are you?07:24
tripelbThere's a channel called #ubuntu-offtopic for this offtopic discussion.07:24
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: And I own windows licenses. I chose Ubuntu/Linux.07:24
lalalalalalalalaenough to burn an iso, use software center, edit microsoft word documents in libreoffice07:24
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: Then I suggest installing Wine and running rosetta stone through that.07:25
lalalalalalalalaup to this point its been pretty simple07:25
tripelbBut since we are doing it, I have a printer and was going to loan it to a neighbor, then I realized she has Windows and how much of a fuss it would be.07:25
pishguytheadmin: can you help me ?07:25
theadminpishguy: Nope07:25
lalalalalalalalarationalOgre, wine?07:25
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: #winehq is their channel07:25
lalalalalalalalawhat is wine?07:25
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: yes, it is application compatibility layer for linux.07:26
tripelbpishguy what's up?07:26
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: It allows many windows applications to run in linux.07:26
ZykoticK9!wine | lalalalalalalala07:26
ubottulalalalalalalala: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu07:26
lalalalalalalalaand thats legal?07:26
theadminlalalalalalalala: Completely07:26
tripelb<goes to winehq to ask07:26
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lalalalalalalalaso its an emulator?07:26
pishguytripelb:  i can use this command on bash script :  gksu bash /usr/bin/sep.sh07:26
rwwlalalalalalalala: In a sense, but not techincally.07:26
theadminlalalalalalalala: No. WINE Is Not an Emulator07:26
lalalalalalalalaI had no idea... cool07:26
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: No, It is not an emulator07:27
pishguytripelb: *can't07:27
ZykoticK9theadmin, rationalOgre ;)07:27
rationalOgreWINE stands for Wine is Not an Emulator07:27
vincentgotajobr u guys chinese?07:27
theadmin!cn | vincentgotajob07:27
ubottuvincentgotajob: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn、/join #ubuntu-tw 或 /join #ubuntu-hk。07:27
JokesOnYou77lalalalalalalala: Whine essentially installs the windows registry in a folder on your computer and translates calls from windows programs to the linux OS07:27
theadminZykoticK9: ?07:27
lalalalalalalalaso ok, I install this "not an emulator" to emulate windows so I can run rosetta stone07:27
theadminlalalalalalalala: Yeah, basically07:27
rationalOgrevincentgotajob: No, I am not.07:28
lalalalalalalalacool07:28
theadminlalalalalalalala: Check http://winehq.org for install instructions07:28
lalalalalalalalahey thanks I had no idea...07:28
ZykoticK9theadmin, the two of you bothering to explain to lalala what wine stands for...07:28
JokesOnYou77lalalalalalalala: check the wine website for Rosetta Stone, see if anyone else has tried or had any success07:28
theadminZykoticK9: Well it's not an emulator for it does no cpu emulation, or whatever07:28
rationalOgreZykoticK9: Sorry, I don't know all ubotu's commands yet.07:28
lalalalalalalaladoesnt it work?07:28
theadminZykoticK9: Like ubottu said, it's a compatibility layer :D07:28
rationalOgre*ubottu07:28
ZykoticK9theadmin, oh, I know exactly what wine is.  Do you think it will help lala?07:29
tripelbpishguy sometimes you need to preface it with sudo  so try that.07:29
theadminZykoticK9: Nope :D07:29
* theadmin just doesn't want people to get wrong ideas07:29
rationalOgreZykoticK9: meh, not really. Just don't want them kicking around #winehq with "So, how do I get this emulator running".07:29
lalalalalalalalaall this time I have been using Ubuntu lol... that was easy enough07:29
lalalalalalalalaso I think its installing07:30
pishguytripelb: i want to call from bash script : its complete my script : http://paste.ubuntu.com/624920/07:30
tripelbrationalOgre, there's a webpage with all the ubottu commands07:30
JokesOnYou77lalalalalalalala: it looks like some people have been able to get it to work http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=186707:30
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tripelbpishguy, I'm going to sleep. I've done all I can tonight.07:30
rationalOgreI actually used to be involved with WineHQ, they would get "friendly" with people who called it an emulator.07:30
tripelbpishguy, (sad face)07:30
pishguytripelb: ok. thanks07:30
rationalOgreJokesOnYou77: Yeah, I had looked it up before suggesting he/she try wine.07:31
lalalalalalalalayeah its version 3.4 because they got it cheaper than the new version 4 by like 50%07:31
rationalOgretripelb: Thanks.07:31
JokesOnYou77rationalOgre: I was doing the same thing and got side-tracked.  Nice one :)07:31
lalalalalalalalaso what makes it not an emulator?07:32
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: well, then you should be golden. literally, 3.4 has a gold rating with 1.3.1807:32
theadminlalalalalalalala: The fact that it does no CPU emulation.07:32
lalalalalalalalaaha07:32
lalalalalalalalaI get it like gens does actual genesis cpu emulation and wine doesnt? so like if I had a mips processor like in my android phone wine wouldnt work?07:33
yigalwine should be viewed as as et of libraries07:34
lalalalalalalalaright07:34
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: Exactly. All that wine does is exposes an interface that "looks like" windows to the application.07:34
lalalalalalalalalike after spending a lot of time with Ubuntu I get a few things I am just a little slow sometimes lol07:34
th^^wine is implementation of windows, not an emulator :p07:34
th^^or, windows libs07:34
rationalOgreSo the application asks to read the hard disks, and wine responds as if it were the windows syscall07:34
lalalalalalalalais there a mac wine thing for iLife lol07:35
lalalalalalalalaid ditch my mac if there were07:35
lalalalalalalalacool it works thanks :)07:35
airescripthey everyone!!!07:36
yigalo http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX07:36
yigallalalalalalalala:07:36
lalalalalalalalano no I mean I want to run iLife on Ubuntu07:36
airescriptim having a problem with my ubuntu box07:36
a5h15htried changing the resolution of grub using startup manager...the resol got screwed up....any fix?....using 10.04..grub 0.9707:36
lalalalalalalalamy mac is very old lol07:36
lalalalalalalala2003 I think07:37
yigallalalalalalalala: ah, now I understand :)07:37
yigallalalalalalalala: PowerPC?>07:37
lalalalalalalalaI have iLife and iMove HD... yeah07:37
yigallalalalalalalala: or Intel CPU?07:37
lalalalalalalalag507:37
a5h15hchanging the resolution back to default doesnt work07:37
yigallalalalalalalala: powerpc07:37
yigallalalalalalalala: nice07:37
lalalalalalalalaive played with a few things for Ubuntu but nothing touches iMovie HD07:38
ZeranoeDoes anyone know how to make a "link" from one file to another? I want to link to /usr/bin/pkg-config in my home directory07:38
lalalalalalalalathat would kick butt if I could run that on my new core i507:38
yigallalalalalalalala: which OS are you using, you say something made in 03?07:38
a5h15hdid manual changes to the menu.lst file...that too doesnt work07:38
airescriptwhen im installing a softaware it shows a defcon error or something like that can anyone tell me whts going on07:38
lalalalalalalalapanther07:38
airescript???07:38
yigallalalalalalalala: so pretty modern07:38
lalalalalalalalamodern enough I mean its not tiger or leo modern but yeah07:38
JokesOnYou77a5h15h: I know this is a somewhat silly question, but have you run update-grub?07:39
lalalalalalalala512 ram so I never jumped to leo and tiger didnt offer enough to pay 150 bucks at the time07:39
yigallalalalalalalala: ya you have to use a virtual machine for that, but with your specs you cant really07:39
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lalalalalalalalawhat would be cool if I could run my apps on my core i5 with Ubuntu07:40
a5h15hJokesOnYou77, nope...should i do it now07:40
yigallalalalalalalala: why can't you?07:40
lalalalalalalalaiLife is OSX only07:40
yigallalalalalalalala: I see you07:40
yigal're tlaking about hypotheticals :D07:40
lalalalalalalalaright07:40
a5h15hi'm updating the sys since karmic..never paid attention to the grub's version07:40
lalalalalalalalais there a wine-like thing that runs OSX apps07:40
lalalalalalalalaI mean it would only have to work for iMovie HD '0607:41
yigallalalalalalalala: yes but very very slowly07:41
JokesOnYou77yigal: what is it?07:41
lalalalalalalalaeven with 2gig ram and a quad core processor?07:41
murlidharyigal: lalalalalalalala is a bot.07:41
murlidharyigal: an unwanted one07:41
`blackmk4how do you list people members in irssi07:42
lalalalalalalalaI am not a bot07:42
yigal:D07:42
lalalalalalalalaso go blow a goat07:42
Flannellalalalalalalala: Please mind your tone.07:42
murlidharyigal: lol...it is a bot.07:42
rww`blackmk4: Do you mean something like /names ?07:43
lalalalalalalalacool that saves me like $11907:43
`blackmk4oh nice, thanks07:43
lalalalalalalalathanks to whoever pointed me to wine07:44
JokesOnYou77a5h15h: I would, though I'm really a novice.  But if i change anything in grub I know I always forget to run it and my changes don't get implemented.  It doesn't actually change your grub version, it reads the grub config files and updates the grub settings07:44
yigal`blackmk4: \who #ubuntu, should aslo work07:44
yigalalso work07:44
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/07:44
yigalyep, but dead slow07:44
yigalnot worth it on your architecture07:44
cranehello everyone!07:44
cranehow is  ubuntu 11.0407:45
lalalalalalalalarationalOgre, thats insane07:45
cranewhat?07:45
newuser111Hi, installation question.  Ubuntu installs fine with swap on last partition of preinstalled Win7 drive, but never gets past grub prompt.  EasyBCD never gets past GRUB4DOS prompt either.  help?07:45
rationalOgreyigal: JITC-X86 might not run bad07:45
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JokesOnYou77yigal: how about on an i7 with 6 gigs or RAM?  Think there would be ny improvement?07:46
lalalalalalalalasee I cant compile I dont know how and I dont want to break anything07:47
yigalJokesOnYou77: slight :D07:47
kidjojo1988hi07:47
kidjojo1988germany07:47
lalalalalalalalatargz files are still a scary subject for me lol07:47
yigalrationalOgre: :D07:47
cranemy grub have many options ,  why?07:47
kidjojo1988??????07:47
yigalcrane: grub is sweet07:47
kidjojo1988lol07:48
kidjojo1988lappen07:48
yigalcrane: what do you want?07:48
cranesweet??07:48
lalalalalalalalaI fish with grubs XD yay I am in the conversation XD07:48
cranei don't know what's  your meaning ,  hehe!07:48
robin0800_crane, did you run sudo update-grub07:48
yigalcrane: that's a must!07:48
craneno07:48
craneah!  haha!07:49
cranethanks07:49
cranei change the vison 9.10 to 10.0407:49
thedarkusing Ubuntu 10.10. When I try to empty the trash, it just hangs saying it is "preparing". Please help me!07:49
lalalalalalalalarationalOgre, http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/screenshots/macosx2.jpg this made me laugh07:50
bullgard4I bought a computer to use  64-bit-ubuntu Desktop editon. I'd like to partition the HDD with a 10-GB-/root-partition. Will this be sufficient for a dist-Upgrade later?07:50
lalalalalalalalabullgard4, id say 20, I have dabbled with 64 bit but it seems unstable sometimes07:51
yigalbullgard4: it depends on what you need to install in /07:51
lalalalalalalalasome of the applications that work perfectly well with the regular 32 bit version behave rather oddly with their 64 bit counterparts, but when doing things like video encoding, 32 bit cant touch it07:52
bullgard4lalalalalalalala: unstable« is a rather general term. How is stability related to the size of the root patition?07:52
bullgard4s/patition/partition/07:53
rationalOgrebullgard4: I went with a 30gb root but that's because I was being cautious.07:53
lalalalalalalalanothing I am just saying that applications behave unstably sometimes crash without warning07:53
ufo_hello everyone,I want to ubuntu for chinese people,please tell me address07:53
rationalOgre!cn | ufo07:53
ubottuufo: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn、/join #ubuntu-tw 或 /join #ubuntu-hk。07:53
lalalalalalalalahard drives are cheap, go get one from the trash heap at your local computer shop I am sure they threw out an 80gig07:53
ufo_ok,thank you07:54
bullgard4yigal: I do not know what I need to install in / . I thought that the ubuntu installer will decide what to install in /, what to install in /home, what to install in "/usr_and_such".07:55
yigalbullgard4: for the most part 10gb for many purposes07:55
yigalbullgard4: for 64 or 32 systems07:55
lalalalalalalalaim so glad flash finally works the way its suppose to07:56
bullgard4yigal: Does your statement include a dist-upgrade?07:56
rationalOgrebullgard4: you really only need partitions for root, home and swap. and truth be told you could get away with just root and swap07:56
yigalbullgard4: of course, but leave at least 1gb empty07:56
rationalOgreswap should be 2x ram.07:56
yigalbullgard4: if you do that no problems07:57
yigalbullgard4: especially because it's ssd07:57
yigalit's a fast file system07:57
thedarksomeone help me I can't empty my trash07:57
yigalbullgard4: if you want to be very precacious then 2gb07:57
thedarkit just hangs and says "preparing" forever07:57
yigalthedark: yes ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ that's where trash is07:57
lalalalalalalalathedark sudo rm -rf /.trash07:58
yigalthedark: run the following in a terminal07:58
lalalalalalalalaive had to do this07:58
yigalrm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*07:58
bullgard4rationalOgre: The rule "swap should be 2x ram." seems to stem from old times. I have got 4 GB RAM, and for this amount of RAM the rule seems to be no longer applicable.07:58
yigalbullgard4: yes I agree07:58
rationalOgrebullgard4: yeah. Sorry, I'm one of the old guard.07:58
a5h15htrying to change resolution of grub(0.97) from menu.lst file...but this method doesnt seem to work...07:59
* rationalOgre started using linux when the choices were pretty much Slackware, Debian and Red Hat.07:59
thedarkokay thanks, trying it now07:59
yigalgood07:59
a5h15his there a way to get back to default?07:59
thedarkokay it almost worked08:00
lalalalalalalalanow if only there were a way to get netflix to work08:00
thedarkthere are still 25 files  that weren't deleted08:00
thedarkbut they don't show up in the terminal08:01
a5h15hafter selecting the appropriate kernel the screen gets scrambled till the GDM appears08:01
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: Unfortunately, that is one thing wine won't work for. Stupid M$ specific plugins...08:01
theadminbullgard4: Haha yeah, I wouldn't want to make a 12-gig swap xD08:01
lalalalalalalalaDRM I kno08:01
lalalalalalalalaif it werent for stupid DRM08:01
yigalthedark: thedark ok the trash folder is a bit complicated08:01
thedarkyou're telling me08:02
yigalthedark: :D, can you go to ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged/ and tell me if there is anything in there?08:02
bullgard4theadmin: How much swap size does hibernate require?08:02
yigalbullgard4: non08:02
yigalnone08:02
yigalbullgard4: it's stored on disk space not ram08:02
thedarkI'll do anything08:02
thedarkI am in that directory08:03
thedarkls returns nothing08:03
yigalsuspend is where it's stored but much less than 4gb in most cases08:03
yigalthedark: ok08:03
yigalhmm wow :D08:03
theadminbullgard4: As much as there's RAM being used atm08:03
archana8763Hi, I have a multicd script..  But I can't execute it because it keeps saying "Permission denied"... But I did chmod +x  many times on the files...  When I go to properties window and choose "allow executing file as program", the check box never gets ticked..    How shall I make these executable? I am using the admin account only.08:03
yigalthe system is powered down so nothing is in memory, at least when the computer is off08:03
theadminarchana8763: You *may* need to do "sudo chmod +x" on the file08:04
bullgard4theadmin: ok.08:04
archana8763theadmin, Ok, I am going to try it now.08:04
yigalthedark: ok what about ~/.local/share/Trash/files08:05
yigalthedark: did I ask you that?08:05
xgt001hey guys08:05
lalalalalalalalahttp://www.hulu.com/watch/248089/americas-got-talent-see-the-silhouettes#s-p1-sr-i1 just wow08:05
xgt001wat was the battery life u got in 10.10 and 10.0408:05
cafenetis it hard to have ur own distro?08:05
archana8763theadmin, It is still the same.08:05
thedarkalso nothing08:05
xgt001wat was the battery life u got in 10.10 and 10.04?08:05
theadminarchana8763: Hm, what if we do "sudo chmod a+x file"?08:06
yigalsupposedly atom has slightly worse battery life in 11.04 due to the kernel, but I haven't noticed08:06
lalalalalalalalacafenet, explain "own distro"08:07
xgt001yigal, did u get same battery life in both 10.10 and 10.04?08:07
theadminxgt001: In 10.04 it lasted about 6 hours for me08:07
yigalcafenet: how custom do you want it08:07
yigalxgt001: yes about 4 hours08:07
theadmincafenet: One word: Arch08:07
lalalalalalalalayigal on my laptop it only has worse battery life if you use unity 3d08:07
archana8763theadmin, no effect. Any other command?08:07
lalalalalalalalaif you use unity 2d or "classic" its about the same as 10.1008:07
theadminarchana8763: Hm, nope... Do you have read permissions to the file though?08:08
xgt001i rolled back to 10.04 from natty ...i have ati 6370m card08:08
yigallalalalalalalala: as theadmin said it depends on arch although I think he's refering to Archlinux distribution08:08
xgt001i cant install proprietary driver08:08
theadminyigal: Yeah, to Arch.08:08
yigaltheadmin: :D rockin distro08:08
yigaltheadmin: imo08:08
archana8763theadmin, I think yes I can open the sh file using gedit.08:08
xgt001in 10.04 can u help please?08:08
theadminyigal: Yeah, rocking and rolling xD08:08
theadminarchana8763: Does it start with "#!/bin/bash"?08:08
lalalalalalalalaI find 11.04 to suck up no extra battery life if I stick with 2d which is fine as 3d effects are meh to me08:09
yigallalalalalalalala: it has much to do with the type of cpu you're using08:09
archana8763theadmin, Yes.08:09
xgt001lalalalalalalala: natty kernel has this confirmed bug of power regression we cant help08:09
theadminarchana8763: Okay, I'm out of ideas. Weird08:09
rationalOgrearchana8763: output of ls -l for the file?08:09
lalalalalalalalait uses less than XP did lol I noticed around 2 hours or so with XP and I get 3.5 hours with 11.0408:10
yigalarchana8763: pastebin it08:10
yigalarchana8763: if you know how, that is08:10
archana8763rationalOgre, -rw------- 1 archana archana 17679 2011-05-27 06:03 multicd.sh08:10
yigalarchana8763: you got to get that +x08:10
thedarkit has to be a problem with these last 27 files08:10
lalalalalalalalakernel 3.0 is out now and even though nothing changed im sure its going to magically be better :-P08:11
thedarkI was able to delete two of them completely, one by one08:11
archana8763theadmin, thanks for trying/08:11
rationalOgreyigal: archana8763 chmod u+x filename08:11
yigalarchana8763: you can also do an sh multicd.sh08:11
xgt001https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/76013108:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 760131 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Power consumption raised significantly in natty" [High,Triaged]08:11
archana8763yigal, I tried +x so many times.08:11
th^^how to disable panel hiding with unity2d? :/08:11
yigalarchana8763: ok08:11
rationalOgrearchana8763: chmod u+x filename (not just +x)08:11
theadminrationalOgre: We just did an a+x08:11
theadminrationalOgre: Not helping08:11
yigalarchana8763: what about chmod 0755 multicd.sh08:12
rationalOgretheadmin: ah, sorry, didn't see that.08:12
archana8763rationalOgre, I did. And the ls -l now shows : -rw------- 1 archana archana 17679 2011-05-27 06:03 multicd.sh08:12
olskolircme08:12
yigalarchana8763: can you copy that file to another name?08:12
yigalarchana8763: your file system sounds like it has problems if you aren't able to change permissions08:13
yigalarchana8763: is the file located on an external partion?08:13
archana8763yigal, yes, I can copy the file.08:13
archana8763yigal, yes, in an external partition.. C: drive.08:13
yigalarchana8763: ah08:13
yigalarchana8763: ok that's it08:13
theadminarchana8763: There's your problem08:13
rationalOgreindeed08:13
theadminarchana8763: NTFS doesn't let you modify permissions08:13
theadminarchana8763: Copy it to an extX partition08:14
yigalyour home folder08:14
yigalfor instance08:14
JokesOnYou77Isn't there a way to mount an NTFS partition so that it give you root permissions for all files?08:14
yigalJokesOnYou77: yes, but beer doesn't help me remember :D08:14
JokesOnYou77I haven't figured it out yet, but I looked into it for my shaed data partition08:15
rationalOgreJokesOnYou77: you have to edit /etc/fstab for that08:15
JokesOnYou77rationalOgre: oh?08:15
lalalalalalalalaugh I cant learn any more chinese tonight08:15
archana8763yigal, theadmin, rationalOgre  Thank you for helping me. I will do that.08:15
yigalarchana8763: ok, you're almost there08:15
vincentgotajoblalalalalalalala: u r learning chinese?08:16
lalalalalalalalait took some learning to figure out wine and to figure out sound and all that08:16
lalalalalalalalayeah08:16
yigallalalalalalalala: I've only studied Japanese08:16
rationalOgreJokesOnYou77: Yeah. it's annoying. I was fighting with it the other day.08:16
rationalOgrelalalalalalalala: So you got it all working ok?08:17
lalalalalalalalayigal watashi wa nihon-go wadu hanasu ka.08:17
JokesOnYou77rationalOgre: have you found a guide or forum post on it?  I'm planning on repartitioning in a few weeks08:17
yigallalalalalalalala: very nice08:17
yigallalalalalalalala: so you speak a little nihongo also then08:17
lalalalalalalalakishon pippon hanasaom08:18
lalalalalalalalaI have to learn these for  work lol08:18
theadminSounds like swearing for me xD08:18
vish!ot08:18
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:18
lalalalalalalalathey were like "well since you learned Japanese, mandarin wont be hard"08:18
theadminlalalalalalalala: rofl08:18
rationalOgreJokesOnYou77: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G is what I was using.08:18
yigalrofl08:18
lalalalalalalalait really is a lot alike08:18
lalalalalalalalaother than ottonics, its the same08:19
lalalalalalalalawell the base is08:19
yigalnot to me, I tried a little Mandarin it's not easy08:19
bazhanglalalalalalalala, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic08:19
lalalalalalalalaalrighty08:19
yigalI mean character wise it's fine08:19
yigalbut speaking it08:19
bazhangyigal, lets get back on topic please08:19
mkquistJokesOnYou77: looking to be able to create files on ntfs?08:20
yigal:D08:20
dr_williswould someone have a clue why with samba/window shares. the smb:// shows One device (my NAS) but the other pc's dont show up. BUT if i enter their name   smb://slimpc    they do work.08:20
lalalalalalalalayigal get into #ubuntu-offtopic with me08:21
JokesOnYou77mkquist: I've been using a swhared data partition between Win7 and ubuntu but I can't do thingd like share folders on the NTFS data partition when I'm in ubuntu08:21
yigaldr_willis: sorry dude I used SAMBA about 5 years ago for network printing and I'm glad I don't have to do more with it08:21
theadminyigal: Don't bother if you don't know the reply08:21
dr_willisactually the 'NAS' shows up under smb://   i see   'NAS' and 'Workgroup' so its showing up where ive never seen anything else show up befor.08:21
rationalOgredr_willis: Need to change your workgroup setting?08:21
dr_willisrationalOgre,  ive double checked and I think everything is in 'workgroup' workgroup.08:21
yigaltheadmin: ok :(08:21
JokesOnYou77Really, I'd like to be able to have use the same folders/files for iTunes and OneNote in my Win7 Virtual Box in Ubuntu as I do in my Win7 partition08:22
theadminJokesOnYou77: Install the Guest Additions and enable shared folders08:22
theadminJokesOnYou77: That's the basic drill08:22
archana8763theadmin, yigal, rationalOgre touch: missing file operand Try `touch --help' for more information.08:22
dr_willisThe default workgroup for samba in ubuntu is 'workgroup' isent it?08:22
archana8763I can execute the file now but it says this08:22
theadminarchana8763: Sounds like a problem inside the script08:23
rationalOgrearchana8763: what theadmin said. Pastebin the script?08:23
JokesOnYou77theadmin: I know, and I have, but it doen't work when the files are in an NTFS partition because ubuntu doesn't have premissions for them08:23
JokesOnYou77rationalOgre: thanks for the link by the way08:23
archana8763rationalOgre, Ok.08:23
rationalOgreJokesOnYou77: No problem. It didn't work for me but I think that's more because the drive is old and crappy and might be dead. *lol*08:24
mkquistJokesOnYou77: it all comes down to how you mount the drive in ubuntu, as far as permissions are concerned08:24
archana8763rationalOgre, http://paste.ubuntu.com/624953/08:25
JokesOnYou77rationalOgre: nice.  I actually just did a full 11.04 install on a dead drive; I created 25 GB partitions across the drive untill I found one that was undamaged08:25
mkquistJokesOnYou77: maybe this will help? http://ubuntu.swerdna.org/ubuntfs.html08:25
phong_hi guys08:26
JokesOnYou77mkquist: Nice!08:26
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lavenderdawnI don't like the new desktop with 11.04. How do I use the older version?08:48
rww!classic | lavenderdawn08:48
ubottulavenderdawn: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".08:48
rationalOgreHeh, the floodbots are fighting with the server08:48
rwwrationalOgre: Not really. The network's just going crazy :)08:48
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lavenderdawnOh ok. I haven't seen session box before. Is it at the way bottom?08:48
cranehello  everyone!08:48
rwwlavenderdawn: yup, it shows up after you put in your username08:48
rationalOgrelavenderdawn: when you reach the login screen, click on your icon, then down below where it says Unity change it to Classic08:48
ma5t3rw1tthello08:48
cranewho can tell me how to use xchat!08:48
rationalOgreand someone beat me to it.08:48
lavenderdawnok thank you. you are awesome08:48
craneme ?08:48
ma5t3rw1ttxchat is easy08:48
rationalOgrecrane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624953/08:48
craneeh08:48
rationalOgrecrane woops wrong one08:48
rwwcrane: try /join #xchat08:48
rationalOgrehttp://xchat.org/docs/start/08:48
rationalOgrethere08:48
craneok08:48
thebastlhi anyone here that is able to sign in to icq again with empathy?08:48
theadminrww: Wow, the first time I see someone with an op status here08:48
thebastlhere with pidgin its working and with empathy not08:48
rationalOgrewow... icq... I haven't heard of that in forever. Didn't know it still existed.08:48
rwwtheadmin: yeah, we don't usually sit here opped up. We lost ChanServ for a while and I'm paranoid, so...08:48
ma5t3rw1tttheblastl: search google08:48
theadminrww: How can you lose chanserv?08:48
dr_willisxchat homepage has docs.. xchat HELP menu item. has info also. :)08:48
rwwtheadmin: netsplit happened, ChanServ was on the other side of it from me08:48
ma5t3rw1ttor use similar settings found in pidgin08:48
theadminrww: Oh, oopsy :(08:49
theadminrww: I don't even notice them cause I ignore joins and quits on this channel -- or else my screen gets flooded08:49
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rwwtheadmin: the network's been going crazy for a few minutes :)08:49
flacknice flood08:50
dr_willisIf i have a working 'full' install (/ and swap partitions) on a external USB hd. and i 'dd' the hd to a new hd (bigger hd)  what else should i need to do to get the new HD booting/working properly?  I know gparted can resize the partitions.  would i need to watch out for the UUID's changeing?  anything else to watch for>?08:50
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cranei don't know how to use xchat to come wikipedia!  who can tell me08:51
dr_williscrane,  clarify what you mean.. wikipdeia is a web site.. xchat is an irc client...08:51
rationalOgredr_willis: Did you not see my messages above?08:51
craneyes08:51
cranei want use xchat to widipedia irc08:51
craneyou know what's my meaning ?08:52
plouffe /join #wikipedia08:52
dr_willisrationalOgre, ok. so dd keeps uuid. so  i dont want to have both old/new hds plugged in when booting.08:52
rationalOgredr_willis: yes08:52
dr_williscrane,  you want to jouin the wikipedia channel? see what plouffe  said.08:52
cranei can't see anything08:53
theadmindr_willis: dd preserves UUIDs if I recall right. Also, I'd use /dev/disk/by-label/, it's pretty helpful ;)08:53
diablotinCould someone help me, I have a small question08:53
dr_williscrane,     http://xchat.org/docs/start/08:53
dr_willisdid a lubuntu install onto a 8gb flash drive. dding the flash drive to a 60gb external USB hd now as a 'test' of cloneing the setup.08:54
dr_willisseemed faster then reinstalling from cd. but dd is taking a lot of time. :)08:54
theadmindr_willis: dd is slower on Windows so you should be happy you're not using it on that xD08:54
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dr_willistheadmin,  but sadly - my usb hard drives all seem faster on windows.. :(08:55
dr_willistheres still some odd bugs causing slow usb decvice speeds in ubuntu it seems.08:55
theadmindr_willis: That's cause they're likely in NTFS and ntfs-3g is slow08:55
dr_willistheadmin,  not  this slow.. :)08:55
theadmindr_willis: owait *facepalm*08:55
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monish001!guidelines08:56
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines08:56
theadminBarefoot-Ubuntui: Please don't nickflood08:57
rationalOgredr_willis: You might want to repartition and switch to a /root, /home, swap setup. Or perhaps a /root, /home, /var, swap setup08:58
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theadminrationalOgre: Why the separate /root? That one almost always is empty08:59
dr_willisits only going from a 8gb flash to a 60gb usb hd  so  its not like im doing a lot with it. :)08:59
rwwtheadmin: people tend to say /root when they mean / for some reason08:59
rationalOgretheadmin: I was using /root to refer to just /08:59
theadminrww: oh lol08:59
rationalOgrebecause visually / just kinda disappears08:59
rwwoops09:00
dr_willis /root/ by itself is handy if you want to delete the linux install. :)    I also keep some ISO files in /root/  to allow me to make grub2 boot the ISO files. THEN i an boot them, and reinstall from ISO file. which is a lot faster then any other methods ive seen09:00
rationalOgreif I were to say / /var /home someone might think it was just a miskey.09:00
dr_willisi mean /boot/ :)09:00
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dr_willisactually I think grub2 can boot ISO files from NTFS these days.. i need to try that.09:00
rationalOgredr_willis: yeah I've considered doing /boot in a small partition09:01
theadmin100mb for /boot is more than enough. Also.09:01
dr_willisset up a 'system reinstall rescue partition' that uses the iso and perhaps a small  persistant savce.09:01
theadmindr_willis, rationalOgre: make /boot an ext2 to support older versions of grub xD09:01
dr_willis my /boot/ is 5gb.. I have 5+ iso image files on it.09:01
dr_willisand a backup of the grub 40_custome file that puts the iso image files in the grub2 menu. :)09:02
dr_willisbut this is a testing box right now. so i dont have any of that setup yet.09:03
theadminI wouldn't install grub2 just for the iso-boot capability09:04
dr_willisI dont see much need to use the older grubs - im only using grub2 these days09:04
vincentgotajobwhat's difference when u install ubuntu in the virtual box?09:04
xzHi all09:04
theadmindr_willis: It stores configs under /etc which is senseless09:04
dr_willisvincentgotajob,  theres some issues with unity in the older versions of vbox. you have to use unity-2d or the gnome-classic desktop. but i think theres fixs in the newer vbox versions.09:05
theadminvincentgotajob: It's in virtual box09:05
theadmindr_willis: Unity worked just fine in 4.009:05
dr_willistheadmin,  not actually true for grub2 . but i dont want to argue details. :)09:05
dr_willisive not used vbox in some time.   just recall you really should use the latest vbox to get unity working best.09:06
theadmindr_willis: Hm? I mean, the /etc/default/grub thing? Or is it just Ubuntu?09:06
rwwtheadmin: /etc/default/grub is a Debian/Ubuntu thing.09:06
theadminrww: oic09:06
rwwtheadmin: it's used to generate grub2's actual configuration in /boot/something/09:06
theadminrww: /boot/grub/grub.cfg, yes09:07
dr_willistheadmin,  technically those are configs to 'generate' the actual grub.cfg config.    with your own /boot/ the grub.cfg can stay safely there. if i delte my ubuntu installs and keep /boot/ grub will still work. I can then delete the ubuntu / and other partions. keep and boot /boot/ (and the iso file) and reinstall.09:07
dr_willisevery bootloader over theyears has had its own share of quirks.09:07
theadmindr_willis: That's true, of course09:08
dr_willisgrub1 config under Ubuntu - was very very weird in many ways also.. use a single config file  with nexted comments to controll the  program and define the menu = hard to underatand at first.09:08
theadmindr_willis: I still have to check burg out09:08
dr_willisive not heard many great things about burg other then 'omg its sexy'09:08
vincentgotajobdr_willis, can I use some 3D effect in the vb?09:08
dr_willisbut last i tried it = unbootable system09:08
dr_willisvincentgotajob,  you want the newest verison of vbox i hear for it to work09:09
theadmindr_willis: I see. Not good.09:09
theadminbrb.09:09
dr_willisdd from usb flash to usb hd done --> 8036285952 bytes (8.0 GB) copied, 2119.35 s, 3.8 MB/s09:09
dr_willisseems a bit slow.09:09
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dr_willisbut i guess that is sort of a worse case situation.09:10
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theadmindr_willis: Am back, but let's take this discussion to a pm or else we might have trouble with those serious ops here09:13
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dr_willisgetting ready to reboot to my moved/copied Lubuntui install. :) so i may be a bit.09:14
theadmindr_willis: Roger that, see ya in that bit09:14
dr_willisgparted gave me a big warning to not change stuff ion the new hd. untill after a reboot. :) good old gparted.09:14
* theadmin likes my fdisk09:15
tsaknorrishmmm ubuntus own GPU driver is very good and i dont want to use fglx driver for my radeon, but one game needs it (because i cant see the units on screen) but with that radeon driver i can see the units, but screen isnt running smoothly :/ its lagging09:15
theadmincfdisk*09:15
dinesh_how to do networking in ubuntu09:15
tsaknorriscan i tweak that ubuntus own gpu driver?09:15
theadmindinesh_: Weird question, please elaborate09:16
theadmintsaknorris: It's open-source, but you'd need some good C knowledge there09:16
tsaknorrisi tryed to make xorg.conf file but 11.04 didnt like the idea09:16
dinesh_i have laptop and desktop installed with ubuntulo11.04. i have configured for windows very easily for printer in networking. in ubuntu i need the assistance to setup the networking09:17
tsaknorrisiknow its something very very small what i have to tweak :D because if only units are "missing" not drawing correctly to the screen09:17
tsaknorrisi think that some parameters may help09:18
SuperFaILhey ppl09:19
theadminHello, SuperFaIL09:19
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tsaknorrishi :)09:21
tsaknorrisi need to make some bananachocolate milkshake now :D after that i continue this quest of hunting mighty parameters of GPU driver :P09:22
* SuperFaIL is jealous of your milkshake09:23
* SuperFaIL is hungry now09:23
tsaknorris^^.09:23
SuperFaILI'm hungry now .. .09:23
tsaknorrisi will come back09:24
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Evanescencehow to use telnet to login with username admin and password ? I saw man, but can not find some option to let me follow argument username and password.09:32
theadminEvanescence: telnet is not a secure protocol. If a name and password are required, they will be asked interactively.09:33
dr_willisyou login as your user Evanescence  then use sudo as needed09:33
Evanescencetheadmin: no command way, not interactive ?09:33
theadmindr_willis: Oh there you are. Back not left yet? xD09:33
theadminEvanescence: None09:34
dr_willissage: telnet [-4] [-6] [-8] [-E] [-L] [-a] [-d] [-e char] [-l user]09:34
Evanescencedr_willis: I hope that I can use some comamnd line in script to login09:34
Jordan_U_Evanescence: telnet is not a secure way to log in. Don't try to, even non-interactively.09:34
dr_willisEvanescence,  theres old school ways of doing that.. but with ssh, its easier to setup09:34
theadminEvanescence: I suggest you use ssh, really09:34
EvanescenceJordan_U_: no, I login my localhost, mldonkey mlnet09:34
dr_willisssh - definatly the way to  do it. forget telnet exists. :)09:34
theadmindr_willis: noooo. MUDs ftw!09:34
Jordan_U_Evanescence: What are you actually trying to accomplish?09:35
dr_willisTheres muds that work in browsers/mud clients. :)09:35
dr_willisi imagine theres muds taht use ssh these days.09:35
theadmindr_willis: None I know09:35
EvanescenceJordan_U_: I am writing a script to let me login mldonkey with telnet.09:35
dr_willisIve not mudded in years. but i recall seeing some that were working on a browser front end.09:35
dr_willisEvanescence,  clarify what that means.09:36
theadmindr_willis: Yeah I know.09:36
dr_willisUsage: telnet [-4] [-6] [-8] [-E] [-L] [-a] [-d] [-e char] [-l user]   ---->  telnet -l USERNAME   servername09:36
Jordan_U_Evanescence: That's not an end goal. Why do you want to login to mldonkey with telnet? What are you actually trying to accomplish?09:36
dr_willisbut you can set up ssh with keys were you dont need to give a password.09:37
Evanescencedr_willis: Jordan_U_ just login, and some other function like search and check out reoult etc, all in one script. that's it09:37
Evanescencedr_willis: i see09:37
luyiwenwine09:38
Evanescencedr_willis: test your command09:38
dr_willisEvanescence,  i dont have a telnet server to even connect to.. ive not used telnet in 7+ years.. ssh is the way to do that stuff these days09:38
dr_willismldonky has a telnet interface you are saying and you are connecgint to it. (ive not used mldonkey in years)09:39
Abhijitwe used telnet to chitchat in our college when we first time discoverted telnet!!! :-D09:39
Evanescencedr_willis: yeah, but I have not installed ssh, btw, login localhost will not get attacked. right ?09:39
dr_willislocalhost is local.. so  unless someons is sitting in your chair - it should be safe. :)09:40
Evanescencedr_willis: 0:)09:40
dr_willisnot sure what you mean by 'login localhost' however.09:40
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Evanescencedr_willis: yeah, exactlly.09:40
dr_willisI would suggest installing ssh, and learning how to use ssh. You will  never want to use telnet again.09:40
theadmindr_willis: Somehow most people miss "into" after "login"09:41
Evanescencedr_willis: oooo. well. just login 127.0.0.1, so does it right now ?09:41
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Evanescencetheadmin: so ... I login is different with login into ? my english is poor, sorry09:41
theadminEvanescence: It just makes no sense without the preposition09:42
Guest10514I have problem in installing ruby and rubygem09:42
dr_willislocalhost = 127.0.0.1 the local/current machine.. so im not sure what the question is even asking. :)   'ssh localhost' is a way to test that ssh is working i guess. same with telnet.09:42
theadminRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY09:43
theadminGuest10514: What is your problem?09:43
dr_willisbut thats not really making anything safer..09:43
Evanescencetheadmin: well, i need to find way by self. now09:43
llutztelnet (client) is still a handy thing to test stuff (http, smtp etc.pp), so please don't say "telnet generally is evil". Just the telnet-service on unsecured connections is09:43
Evanescencedr_willis: i see. google it again09:44
dr_willisEvanescence,  in the old says you could script telnet via use of the 'expect' scripts; but if youa re just automating telnet login.. thats a bit extreme.09:44
Guest10514theadmin, i'm trying to install ruby by using apt-get but it is waiting for headers and after several min it gives connection error09:44
dr_willisold days...09:44
Evanescencellutz: agree09:44
dr_willisYou would be better off learning ssh, then learning 'expect'09:44
theadminGuest10514: Switch to a different repo09:44
tsaknorrisim back :)09:44
Guest10514theadmin, How?09:44
theadminGuest10514: uhm, uh...09:45
Guest10514theadmin, sorry i'm new in linux09:45
theadminAnyone - what's the alternative to /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist in APT, again?09:45
Evanescencedr_willis: i see, ssh, then expect , right . i will09:45
OerHeks!sources09:45
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories09:45
dr_willisEvanescence,  with ssh, you dont need to use expect to auto-login without asking for a password. You setup ssh keys. and no need for password then09:45
theadminGuest10514: That.09:45
dr_willis!info expect09:45
ubottuexpect (source: expect): A program that can automate interactive applications. In component main, is optional. Version 5.44.1.15-4 (natty), package size 227 kB, installed size 444 kB09:45
Evanescencedr_willis: I heared it before, public key and private key, good method.09:46
dr_willisEvanescence,  so you are basically getting a shell on a remote machine, and using the cli to controll your mldonkey stuff?09:47
tsaknorrishow i can enable anti-aliaising with ubuntus own GPU driver? i want to make it always switched ON09:48
Evanescencedr_willis: no, I hate type too much, so I write a script to reduce my typing. that's all, I am too lazy09:48
iceroottsaknorris: there are many gpus with many pgu drivers09:48
iceroottsaknorris: and normally the ubuntu-drivers (free) has no 3d support09:48
tsaknorrisi have ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3600 Series and im using natty 10.04 common driver09:49
dr_willisEvanescence,  with ssh, you can use a ssh command to tell the remote box to run a script on the box. no login, or password needed. (if you got the keys done right)09:49
tsaknorrisiceroot, well it has 3d because compiz is doing well with it09:49
Evanescencedr_willis: I know this feature, because mlnet is a server, so I can just throw it a job. done.09:50
sodaorathello09:51
SuperFaILhey sodaorat09:51
sodaoratI would like to remove the loading image on ubuntu09:52
sodaoratwhich is the same that the ending image09:52
dr_willissodaorat,  you mean the 'ubujtu ......' animation?09:52
sodaoratyes09:52
sodaoratI don't want to change it (like I see in google)09:53
sodaoratI want to remove it and see the process starting/ending09:53
dr_willisedit the /etc/default/grub  and change the 'quiet splash' to be 'noquiet nosplash' or just ""  and it wont show up.09:53
dr_willisthen rerun update-grub09:53
dr_willisother optins there can do other things. :) 'text' for example = dont start gdm, no X. just a console session.09:54
sodaoratwaw thanks dr_willis09:55
sodaoratso fast :D09:55
SSGVEhi guys.. im just installed ubuntu 11.04 from using windows 7, i suceeded to get drivers and configure them right, but the issue i have is that i can only use one grafic card. But both exists..09:55
dr_willis!info smb-nat09:55
ubottusmb-nat (source: nat): Netbios Auditing Tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.0-4 (natty), package size 46 kB, installed size 192 kB09:55
sodaoratI will reboot to test that09:55
sodaoratthanks again09:55
dr_willisSSGVE,  you mean you have a desktop box ith 2 video cards? or a laptop with those special 2 gpu setups?09:56
SSGVEgot a desktop with two ati hd 550009:56
SSGVE4 displays, only two working09:56
SSGVEaticonfig --list-adapters shows me both graficcards.. i think i need to activate the other one, but i dont know how, im pretty new to this09:58
excelsior1979Hi there, my computer updated, and the desktop effects quit working, appearance preferences says they can't be reenabled. Any help?09:59
scarleoHas someone successfully ran ettercap on natty? The repos version crashes my computer entirely with a forced reboot. Are there any working versions?10:00
tsaknorrisi have to somehow force anti-aliaising to be always on10:04
tsaknorriseven if it would crash some apps that arent supporting it10:04
kaushalHi10:04
kaushalAre there ubuntu linux jobs available internationally ?10:05
OerHekskaushal, yes, volunteers are welcome10:06
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kaushalOerHeks: ok10:06
Abhijitkaushal, look job sectioon on canonical website10:07
kaushalok10:07
SSGVEnone had any suggestions to use two grafic cards ?10:11
excelsior1979Hi there, my computer updated, and the desktop effects quit working, appearance preferences says they can't be reenabled. Any help?10:11
Abhijitkaushal, subscribe to ubuntu idia and other linux mailist lists. ofthen there are postings regarding jobs10:11
Abhijitbye10:11
tsaknorrisi have noticed that if anti-aliaising is on then my 3D games works, without it always some units are missing10:13
dr_willisSSGVE,  you have ran that 'monitors' tool?  I dont use ati. so no idea if theres special ati only config tools.10:13
dr_willistsaknorris,  what game is this in?10:13
SSGVEdr_willis i succeeded to install catalys controll center blah blah, it works without no issues10:14
tsaknorristorchlight i had same problem but there i could switch the anti-aliaising on by the games own settings. now im playing savage2 and there i cant change anti-aliaising on settings says none on anti-aliaising line10:15
SSGVEi can see my other graficcard as "unknow adapter" but its existing if im running aticonfig --list-adapters10:15
dr_willistsaknorris,  so you are running tourchlight in wine, and  the native savage2 linux client?10:16
tsaknorrisyeah10:16
dr_willisare you sure you are not geting the games 'video anti-aliasing' settings confused with 'font anti-aliasing' which is a radically differnt thing?10:17
tsaknorrisahaa wait :D now torchlight is working perfeclty with or without anti-aliasing hmm10:17
dr_willistsaknorris,   what is your video chipset anyway?10:17
tsaknorris04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3600 Series10:17
tsaknorrisdr_willis, hmm10:21
dr_willisfor my nvidia cards the nvidia-setting tool has some override anti-aliasing feature.10:22
dr_willisbut i dont see how the AA settings would be affecting the games in the ways yiou mention10:22
dr_willisso you may be looking in the wrong place for the issue.10:22
lordnoidim trying to install ubuntu on a packard bell dot but it either gives "decompilation or decomposition prohibited" error from the BIOS or it just freezes right after it boots from USB10:22
tsaknorrisdr_willis, i just said that torchlight is working with or without that setting now10:23
tsaknorrisso its not AA matter anymore10:23
tsaknorrissomething else10:23
dr_williswine and ati cards - have always been problematic for me in the past10:23
dr_willischeck the wine app database yet?10:24
tsaknorrisbut savage2 is native linux version10:24
smnrhello there ! is there anybody that could help me with a problem that i have please ?10:25
Gangrelis anyone using gnome 3?10:26
Gangrelcan someone tell me how to resize favorite bar on gnome 3 (ubuntu 11.04)10:26
theadminGangrel: Used to use it. Ask the real question10:26
tsaknorrisbut i cant edit any settings with ubuntus own gpu driver?? if install fglx radeon drivers then there is that catalys program10:27
rwwsmnr: FloodBot1 is not sentient, ask questions in the channel and see if anyone responds10:27
cafenethow can i have my own distro with some program already installed on ? :(((10:29
smnrplease10:29
dr_williscafenet,  you can remaster the iso to add stuff you want10:29
tsaknorriscafenet, you may want to check aptoncd program :)10:29
smnrcould anybody help me with a network card problem ?10:29
dr_williscafenet,  the reconstructor web sute.service lets you do it easially. but its not free10:29
dr_willis!remaster10:29
ubottuInterested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility10:29
tsaknorriscafenet, so just use aptoncd :D10:30
smnranybody please?10:30
ray24Sometimes banshee syncs ipod, and sometimes it doesn't.10:30
cafenetapton cd uses the internet10:30
llutz!anybody | smnr10:30
ubottusmnr: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.10:30
tsaknorriscafenet lol read more you can see that you dont need internet :)10:30
tsaknorriswit aptoncd10:30
tsaknorriswith10:30
cafenetand i check this one  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization   couldnt get much of it10:30
gohdanis there a console based cpu graph program in the repo? looking for something that plots a graph similar to what 'bmon' or ttyload' does.10:30
gohdanbut for the current cpu usage rather than the overall system load or bandwidth usage10:31
cafenet\i already have sth on aptoncd but while run thos files it gives error about internet connection10:31
smnri am a total noob.. my network card exists and works. but when i write down airmon-ng i cannot see its name. i've searched a lot but nothing seems to work10:32
smnrit also says that it failed to find any10:32
tsaknorriscafenet, what error?10:32
smnrbut i am connected wirelessly on the net10:32
cafenet@snmr  ifconfig or iwconfig10:32
cafenetand u have to run that as root10:33
cafenet@tsakonorris i dont remember actually it was a long time ago10:33
Ryan_Macyhow would I go about linking a command to a file10:34
Ryan_Macyex I have a file called foo, I want to run foo by typing foo in the console10:34
theadminRyan_Macy: sudo mv foo /usr/local/bin10:35
Ryan_Macytheadmin would I be able to create a sym link instead of moving it?10:35
smnrand with iwconfig10:36
theadminRyan_Macy: Yeah, that'd work too. Or you can just add the folder where it currently is to $PATH10:36
excelsior1979Hi there, my computer updated, and the desktop effects quit working, appearance preferences says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"  Any help?10:37
Ryan_Macytheadmin I made a sym link with10:39
theadminRyan_Macy: Just in case, the command to create a symlink would be: sudo ln -s $PWD/foo /usr/local/bin/foo10:39
Ryan_Macyln -s ./var/www/Symfony/app/console ./usr/local/bin/Symfony10:39
Ryan_Macybut when I ran Symfony10:39
Ryan_Macyi got command not found10:39
theadminRyan_Macy: That's weird.10:40
ubuntuisawesomehi there10:40
theadminRyan_Macy: My way is to write a small shellscript which will cd to the app's directory and then launch the app, and place the script in /usr/local/bin10:40
theadminHey, ubuntuisawesome10:41
Ryan_Macytheadmin would me trying to do this on ubuntu server make a difference10:41
theadminRyan_Macy: Meh, not really, except... Isn't Symfony a GUI app?10:41
Ryan_Macyits a php framework10:41
theadminRyan_Macy: Oh okay10:41
excelsior1979Hi there, my computer updated, and the desktop effects quit working, appearance preferences says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"  Any help?10:43
trijntjeexcelsior1979, regular updates or to a new version of ubuntu?10:43
excelsior1979not the upgrade, just the updates10:43
menguhi.10:44
tjb2hi10:44
excelsior1979I was about to try the dell repositories to update my firmware, but I don't think that will do it.10:44
nightcrowhi guys,10:44
Ryan_Macytheadmin the issue was that I had ./blah/foo10:44
tjb2how is ubuntu coming along?  i haven't usd it in years10:44
Ryan_Macyand not /blah/foo10:44
theadminRyan_Macy: Ah10:45
nightcrowi have an ext4 fs partitioned at /dev/sda3 I want to add it to /dev/sda1 with mount point /10:45
Ryan_Macyplus I did the sym link in the /bin dir10:45
nightcrowi want to add it to my root partition10:45
nightcrowcan anyone help me please and tell me how10:45
menguhow do i know if my sound card driver is installed or not? i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with acer aspire 7750g10:45
theadminRyan_Macy: Well glad you got it working10:45
trijntjetjb2, its ok, unity still has some issues10:46
Dr_WillisI hear theres all sorts of work being done on unity fixing and improveing things. perhaps in the next release it will be better. :)10:46
Shai347Hello, I  would like to use the remote desktop feature but from some reason its not working well, when I connect (from Windows) to ubuntu I can see the screen but the client is not updating according to the actions? any idea?10:46
xbmcuser#hts10:47
mrt91could anyone tell me why my acer extensa 5620z don't restart by standby if there isn't any application suspended?10:47
Dr_WillisShai347:  ive seen that issue befor as well. never did see a fix. other then to use a differnt 'vnc server'  instead of teh built in 'share the current desktop' vino server.10:47
excelsior1979trijntje: did you have any ideas?10:47
Dr_WillisShai347:  ive not looked into it in some time - the forums and askubuntu.com may have some fix's posted by now.10:47
theadminShai347: I suggest trying out TeamViewer for remote desktops, really works well :)10:47
trijntjenightcrow, what do you mean by 'add it to /dev/sda1', add the space to another partition?10:47
nightcrowyes10:48
nightcrowtrijntje: i want to make /dev/sda1 larger by using the space from /dev/sda310:48
trijntjeexcelsior1979, not really, I would first check if the proper driver is installed, and then maybe reset all compiz settings to default and see what happens10:48
trijntjenightcrow, you will need to boot from cd, delete partition sda3 and grow sda1 using the available space10:49
nightcrowtrijntje: it is the same physical device10:49
excelsior1979how do I look that up10:49
nightcrowwhat about resize2fs10:49
nightcrowtrijntje: i can also delete it with gparted10:49
trijntjenightcrow, i'm not sure about the details, sorry10:50
nightcrowi see10:50
nightcrowthank you anyway10:50
trijntjeexcelsior1979, its in the menu, additional drivers or something like that10:50
nightcrowanyone else may know?10:50
xbmcuserone thing that drives me nuts in ubuntu - to drag/resize a window, the sensitivity to grab the border is ridiculous. Is this adjustable somehow?10:50
mrt91could anyone tell me why my acer extensa 5620z don't restart by standby if there isn't any application suspended?10:50
excelsior1979No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.10:50
trijntjeexcelsior1979, are any available?10:51
excelsior1979I have an integrated video card, intel sandy bridge10:51
excelsior1979none are listed there10:51
trijntjeexcelsior1979, that probably means it supported by default, so thats not where the problem is10:51
nightcrowtrijntje: how about if i make it 'unallocated space'?10:52
trijntjenightcrow, I really dont know, but there should be guides available on the web10:53
Dr_Willisif you resiuze a partition and shrink it. the space left over would be unallocatged. or if you delete a partition. where tit was at  will then be 'unallocated space'10:54
mrt91anyone help me... :-(10:55
Dr_Willisxbmcuser:  you could use alt-click to drag a window - you can then click anywhere in the window.10:55
trijntjemrt91, I dont understand your problem, can you rephrase it?10:55
mrt91my acer extensa 5620z don't restart by standby if there isn't any application suspended?10:56
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DevSoRandomIs this the place to learn to install linux?10:56
DevSoRandomBarrett Brown told me that linux was the operating system of real hackers.10:56
trijntjemrt91, yeah, I dont know what that means. Can you tell what you did, what happened and what you expected to happen10:56
excelsior1979linux graphics drivers from intel? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html10:57
trijntjeDevSoRandom, installation should be straightforward10:57
webushi to all. how i can run my vpn connection, generated by graphic settings interface ?10:58
DevSoRandomtrijntje: thanks10:58
mrt91if i close the screen without a open application (to do the stand-by) when i restart the screen don't turn on10:58
xbmcuserDr_Willis - not to move the window, but to resize it.. It seems to be a bug with altering the theme the only solution.. wierd?10:59
mrt91it is all normal if, for example, i leaveopen thunderbird10:59
Dr_Willisxbmcuser:  never noticed really.10:59
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Dr_Willisxbmcuser:  differnt themes have wider/narrower borders.10:59
trijntjemrt91, so if you have a program open when you put the computer in stand-by it works, but when you dont have any windows open you cannot resume from stand-by properly?11:00
xbmcuserDr_Willis - seems to be a common complaint. Maybe cause I use a 40 inch screen, but mine is RIDICULOUSLY sensitive.. If theres no easier fix, I'll just modify the theme.11:00
Guest24015How to install ruby libraries (zlib, openssl etc)11:00
mrt91perfect!11:00
theadminGuest24015: Search APT for them11:00
mrt91sorry for my english..11:00
Dr_Willisxbmcuser:  i never use the default theme anyway. :)11:01
trijntjemrt91, no problem. I never use stand-by, so I cant help you with that, sorry11:01
mrt91ok... thx11:02
MK```I need help... I deleted a shortcut to bluetooth settings from my system menu, now it won't appear in the Control center, how do I get it back?11:03
Dr_Willisalacarte program can add it back to the menus  - isent that how you deleted it?11:06
MK```I edited the menu (from Ubuntu classic)11:06
Dr_Willisand that used alacarte11:06
Dr_Willisrun alacarte again . see if you can add it back11:06
Dr_WillisI think im spelling that right.11:07
MK```well see, when I deleted the Bluetooth one, it made a copy in the "Other" folder. I moved it back, and it appears in the system dropdown again, but it still doesn't show in the command center11:07
allu2Hello, anyone know software that could be used to record/shoot lighnings on my webcam?11:07
allu2i have logitech C270 HD webcam and i would love to set it up by my window to photo lightnings :)11:08
allu2camera works perfectly but for example if i record video with cheese the higest resolution video has framerated of 1-2 FPS11:09
Dr_WillisYou are recording Thunderstorms?11:10
rlyHow can I set as a normal user the language in an Ubuntu Classic environment?11:10
rlyThe menu bar for example is in English, which is not the language I configured in gdm for this user.11:11
theadminrly: You should be able to select the language on the login screen, and there is System -> Preferences -> Language Support11:11
rlytheadmin: I did both those things.11:11
theadminrly: Weird11:12
xgt001i installed ati proprietary drivers  version 11.3 in my laptop with ati radeon 6370M .. i am getting no adpaters found error when i type aticonfig, and the control center is not opening as well please help11:12
cranei joined a channel , and  why "cannot send to channel"??11:12
Dr_Willis!register | Craig_Dem11:12
ubottuCraig_Dem: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode11:12
Dr_Willis!register | crane11:12
ubottucrane: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode11:12
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Dr_Williscrane:  registered channel/nickname requierd11:12
cranehow to do it?11:13
Dr_Willisread the url the bot gave...11:13
bazhangcrane, read the link, and ask in #freenode11:13
craneeh11:14
cranethang you!11:14
xgt001i installed ati proprietary drivers  version 11.3 in my laptop with ati radeon 6370M .. i am getting no adpaters found error when i type aticonfig, and the control center is not opening as well please help11:14
xgt001ubuntu 10.0411:14
cranei11:14
bazhangcrane, /join #freenode11:15
jeremyhello i was wondering if anyone is avaiable to help me11:15
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theadminGuest11914: Just ask your question11:15
bazhangask a question Guest1191411:16
Guest11914I just installed ubuntu 10.10 and i cannot get adobe flash player to update in mozilla11:16
Guest11914any ideas?11:16
theadminGuest11914: You can only install it via APT. Well, unless you use the version from their site which isn't recommended11:17
Guest11914plus i cannot find compiz or beryl in the synaptic packager, are the repositories changed?11:17
Dr_Williscompiz is isntalled by defauilt.. beryl is dead.11:17
bazhang!ccsm | Guest1191411:17
ubottuGuest11914: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz11:17
theadminGuest11914: Compiz should be there, Beryl is no longer used11:17
MK```Ahh I figured it out :)11:18
Guest11914ok cool so is there an apt get flash player?11:18
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MK```grep 'Hidden=true' ~/.local/share/applications/*.desktop11:18
Dr_WillisGuest11914:  yes. I thought during the initial install there was 2 check box's - if you used those. I recall it installing flash by default11:18
deneshi! how could i share my eth internet connection with my usb wireless in 10.10?11:18
MK```deleting any hidden ones will return them to the menu11:18
bazhang!ics | denes11:19
ubottudenes: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing11:19
Guest11914no check boxes on install11:19
Dr_Willismay ahve been a new feature in 11.0411:19
Dr_WillisFlash and other things got installed by default on my Lubuntu Install i just did today it seems11:19
Guest11914well i had linux thus version before n this comp and there were no problems11:20
Guest11914i just reinstalled same but things are different11:20
Dr_WillisFlash is avail via the pacakge manager tools.  thats the best way to install it.11:20
excelsior1979does wget work on ubuntu?11:20
Dr_Willisexcelsior1979:  yes.11:20
denesbazhang: oh i found that already but in earlier ubuntus there seemed to be an easier way like "create new wireless network" in network manager applet (what seems to be gone)11:20
excelsior1979do I need to sudo it?11:20
Dr_Willisexcelsior1979:  i cant imagine why you would need to.11:20
Guest11914whats it called in package manager or what repository offers it11:21
excelsior1979do I need to pipe it to bash?11:21
Guest11914ok i think i found it oe sec11:21
excelsior1979I'm trying to enable dell repositories11:22
Dr_Willisexcelsior1979:  what exactly are youy trying to do . and what command line are you using exactly11:22
Dr_Willisuseing 'sudo' and output redirrection - can require some tricks.11:23
denesbazhang: oh so i skipped the first method due to lack of pictures in the documentation i thought it's just text preparing the user what the command line is, my fault sorry. thanks then!11:23
excelsior1979wget -q -O - http://linux.dell.com/repo/firmware/bootstrap.cgi | bash11:23
excelsior1979I'm getting permission denied11:24
excelsior1979sudo didn't help11:24
Guest11914while that is installing i was wondering if linux had any video editting software?11:24
XanoI mounted /dev/sdb2 to /var/www, which is my docroot. However, I get a 403 when trying to access the docroot. /var/www is set to 744 and /dev/sdb2 to 764. What's going wrong here?11:24
Dr_Willisexcelsior1979:  get to a root shell -> sudo -s    then try it11:24
Dr_Willisor save  the outpuit to a file. then 'sudo theoutputscript'11:25
theadminDr_Willis: It's -i, not -s11:25
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Dr_Willistheres a idfferance btween -s and -i  - i can never rember  why :)11:25
Dr_Willisages ago i had to use -s for some case.. and thats just how i rmeber it.11:26
excelsior1979bash: line 232: aptitude: command not found11:26
excelsior1979bash: line 233: aptitude: command not found11:26
excelsior1979bash: line 234: aptitude: command not found11:26
excelsior1979bash: line 236: aptitude: command not found11:26
excelsior1979Done!11:26
jribexcelsior1979: aptitude is no longer installed by default11:26
excelsior1979it let me import the key11:26
robin0800theadmin, well whats sudo su11:26
jribDr_Willis: -i will reset the environment11:27
excelsior1979annoying.11:27
Dr_Willisyep. i needed the reset env. for some reason.11:27
excelsior1979how do I get out of root?11:27
BlouBlouexcelsior1979: exit11:27
theadminexcelsior1979: If you opened a root shell with su or something, "exit"11:27
excelsior1979great, thanks11:28
theadminrobin0800: su is a pretty dangerous combination11:28
theadminrobin0800: with sudo that is11:28
jribXano: you want directories to be executable (in general)11:28
excelsior1979ok so how do I enable the dell repos? or is that no longer supported?11:28
Dr_Willisexcelsior1979:  you are using that script on a newer version of ubuntu? or what exactly?11:29
excelsior1979well the page doesn't say it's specific to any particular version of ubuntu11:29
excelsior1979http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Repository/firmware11:30
Xanojrib: What's the best approach? Allowing everybody to execute wouldn't be very wise. So should I myself to the www group?11:30
jribXano: why would it not be wise?11:30
excelsior1979aptitude install firmware-addon-dell11:30
Fudgehi looking for an app to sign .sis nokia unisgned files, everything i google is for windows and i cant use wine because it doesnt work with orca screen reader11:31
excelsior1979should I change that to sudo apt-get install firmware-addon-dell?11:31
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Bartzy|workAnyone using rsnapshot - How can I make rsnapshot to force permissions on the backup side ? Currently it just copies the uid and gid (the the permissions) from the source of the backup, which is not good for me.11:31
excelsior1979nevermind all that, it's in the software center.11:32
Xanojrib: Because then other users would have access as well. That's no problem on this machine, which is a home server (unless there's another security flaw that allows others to ssh in or so)11:32
Dr_Willisexcelsior1979:  you could just inzstall aptitude :)11:33
Guest11914im going to try out the lives video editor i make youtube videos and was wondering how lives works11:33
jribXano: you want to hide the contents of these directories?11:33
excelsior1979screw that11:33
Xanojrib: But even if I set /dev/sdb2 to 777, I still get a 40311:33
excelsior1979maybe this will fix my video problem?11:33
Xanojrib: No, I only want to give apache and myself access to /dev/sdb211:33
jribXano: change the permissions on the mount point, not /dev/sdb211:33
Guest11914oh yeah that reminds me youtube in full screen skips and scratches to the point of freezing any ideas on how to fix that?11:34
excelsior1979in any case, it should update my firmware. When the heck is Intel going to fully support linux?11:34
Xanojrib: The mount point's permissions are 744 and these are the defaults. With without /dev/sdb2 mounted, I get access. With it mounted, I don't. The mount point hasn't changed11:34
excelsior1979I should have sprung for the better graphics card. Now it's too late.11:35
jribXano: paste the output of: ls -ld /var/www/11:35
tjb2do you folks like Chopin?11:35
jrib!ot | tjb211:35
ubottutjb2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:35
Xanojrib: drwxr--r-- 3 bart bart 4096 2011-06-09 14:52 /var/www11:35
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sindrakesorry hi11:36
jribXano: www-data does not have execute permissions on that directory and needs to11:36
sindrakehow can i fix the full screen video glitch, to make the video run more smoothly11:36
Xanojrib: Yeah, I compared the output with and without the partition mounted and it's different11:36
XanoCan't read the format though11:36
jribXano: chmod a+x /var/www/11:37
Xanojrib: I don't precisely know what exactly was the problem, but thanks. That worked :)11:38
jribXano: you can think of executable permissions on a directory as the ability to cd into a directory and play with what's inside.   www-data needs that ability :)11:39
Xanojrib: ah, right11:39
Xanojrib: so that command you gave me, what's that in octal?11:40
jribXano: there is no equivalent in octal it adds 111 to whatever the current octal permissions are11:40
rlyI get random disconnects using a wired connection. Have others reported issues like that with 11.04?11:41
ikoniarly: you need to look at why you get disconnects, when you get a disconnect, do an ifconfig and an ethtool and see the network card status11:41
th0rjrib: actually it 'ORs' 111 with the permissions <smile>11:41
jribXano: they ended up being 755 so you could have done "chmod 755 /var/www" and accomplished the same11:41
ikoniarly: are you disconnected from the whole network, or just the internet, etc etc. work the problem through and narrow it down11:41
jribth0r: you're right, I realized that when I typed my last statement, thanks :)11:41
Xanorly: I get random disconnects using wireless. Need to find out why when I'm physically near my server next week11:41
rlyikonia: well, the network level connection is not dropped, but browsing e.g. google is extremely slow. E.g. I had to wait two minutes for a page (which came in instantly when the connection came through). Nobody else is doing anything on this network,11:42
Xanojrib: I wonder why this was a problem only after mounting the partition, because after the apache2 install, /var/www was set to 76411:43
rlyikonia: but e.g. I get disconnected from IRC with error messages that packets have been chopped in half.11:43
ikoniarly: that sounds like your internet is dropping rather than your ubuntu issue11:43
Xanojrib: And that worked11:43
ikoniarly: use the techniques I've suggested to diagnose it down11:43
rlyikonia: ok11:43
jribXano: the owner was probably www-data?11:43
J11When i was scanning a documentwith 'Simple Scan'  it didn't have enough memory to save to pdf, if i save to png will that make multiple png's or a multipage png?11:43
excelsior1979is there something that lets me see my bios history?11:43
Xanojrib: So if the owner of the mounted partition changes, the mount point needs updated permissions?11:44
ikoniaexcelsior1979: no11:44
jribXano: files have permissions.  if you mount something to /a/b then /a/b now has the permissions of what you mounted there (because it now represents a different file)11:45
developerhi11:46
Xanojrib: makes sense11:46
Xanothanks :)11:46
developerI'm looking for a ERP open source software11:47
PashtetSomething new11:47
J11seems it is saving to multiple png images, is there a way to print multiple png's in the right numerical order to a pdf?11:47
developeranyone can hep me ?11:48
J11developer: SAP-like ERP?11:49
ikoniadeveloper: start by doing the basic resarch tools such as google to find out if that software exists, then get a list of the names and see if they exist in ubuntu, work it down11:49
robin0800theadmin, anyway in 11.04 there is now a root terminal11:49
thamI installed kubuntu-desktop. But now the machine boots up to a command line. What can I do?11:49
developer==> J11, yes11:49
Dr_Willistham:  try 'startx' see if you get to a desktop11:49
theadmintham: sudo service kdm start, try that one11:49
J11developer: maybe try openerp11:50
Dr_Willistham:  installing kubuntu-desktop shouldent of broken x. but it may have the gdm/kdm services confused.11:50
developerYou have an experience with openerp ?11:50
J11no11:50
developeri see openbravo erp in synaptic11:51
xgt001i am crying blood !!!!!! somebody helP!!!!!!!!!!!!11:51
ikoniaxgt001: calm down please, if you need help ask a question instead of making random noise11:51
J11developer: wikipedia has a list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ERP_software_packages11:51
thamDr_Willis theadmin : Neither startx, nor sudo service kd start works :( Any idea?11:51
Dr_Willistham:  any error emssages?11:51
thamDr_Willis xinit: connection to X server lost (This and several other gibberish)11:52
developerJ11: Thankx. i see this list but i want an real experience with an open source erp11:52
xgt001 ok here is the deal... i installed 10.04, i tried installing proprietary catalyst driver but after installation aticonfig is giving "no adpaters found please help"11:53
rlyikonia: I think I solved the issue.11:53
ikoniaxgt001: did you install the ati drivers from the ubuntu repos ?11:53
ikoniarly: do tell11:53
rlyikonia: basically two devices had the same ip address.11:53
ikoniarly: ah, there we go, that will do it11:53
J11developer: then you have to search for a forum about erp11:53
xgt001ikonia: no .. ubuntu repos dint have drivers supporting my 6370, so downloaded from amd site and installed from the run file11:54
theadminHamsters!11:54
rlyikonia: so what happens exactly then?11:54
developeri don't find a specific forum about this topic11:54
ikoniarly: two devices can't have the same ip address so it either loses packets as it doesn't know where to go, or the machine drops the offending card off the network11:54
palohey i have problems with my kernel. usb is so unnormal slow. why. i can use my mouse after 2 minutes after boot. here my /var/log/kern , please some ideas http://paste.pocoo.org/show/404902/11:54
thamDr_Willis theadmin Any ideas? :S11:55
xgt001and it gives me the error "no supported adapters found"11:55
ikoniaxgt001: did you install the ati drivers from the ubuntu repos ?11:55
rlyikonia: but I have been able to run IRC over it for a few minutes at a time.11:55
ikoniaxgt001: apologies, missed your comment11:55
Dr_Willistham:  patebin teh whole of your error message  perhaps..11:55
developerJ11: I'm trying to install openbravowith synaptic to make a test11:55
ikoniaxgt001: ok - so you're using drivers that are untested against ubuntu, may I suggest #ati for your help11:55
rlyikonia: I don't see why it would lose packets then.11:56
rlyikonia: still, that it is not a good idea, is completely true :)11:56
ikoniarly: because there are two devices sharing the same ip - how does it know where to send them,11:56
ikoniarly: shortly the packets will get confused/lost11:56
jabbais it possible to read out the length of a luks XTS-AES key from a crypted, mounted partition?11:56
thamDr_Willis The one I mentioned is the error, other stuff are just info about starting x11:57
kra3tham: can you run startx as root11:57
Dr_Willistham:  the one you mentioned is just a generic x failed mnessage..11:57
carlo ubuntu-it-test11:58
thamkra3: startx gives the error "xinit: connection to x server lost"11:58
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xgt001ikonia: no response from #ati :(11:58
Dr_Willistham:  any mention of  'no screens found'  = whats your video card?11:58
ikoniaxgt001: wait for a response,11:58
ikoniaxgt001: it's not as busy as this channel11:58
thamDr_Willis: There's no other specific error message as such :S11:58
Bartzy|workHow can I purge all packages that start with apache ?11:59
Dr_Willisapt-get takes wildcards11:59
Bartzy|workaptitude purge apache* doesn't work11:59
Bartzy|workaptitude doesn't ?11:59
ikoniaDr_Willis: now that's something I didn't know11:59
Dr_Williswhat does it do then>11:59
Dr_Willistry the tab completion also.11:59
Dr_Williswildcards with apt = often NOT a good idea.11:59
Dr_WillisI dont se emuch need to use aptotuide  - so i never use it. :)12:00
kra3apt-get --purge apache*12:00
xgt001excuse me every1, can anybody share there experiences with battery life on ubuntu 10.10 compared to ubuntu 11.04?12:00
hotmedalWubi install went to grub command prompt on startup, seems to have cured itself. (Probably Windows's chkdsk)12:00
hotmedaldo i need to worry?12:01
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ikoniaxgt001: nothing really different between them12:01
xgt001ikonia: your battery life in meerkat and natty?12:01
carlotuxsono in ubuntu test, date conferma12:02
ikoniaxgt001: about the same - it depends too much on what you're doing rather than just default battery life12:02
xgt001ikonia: there is this confirmed bug , #760131 in launchpad , which causes a power regression in natty12:03
ikoniaxgt001: so ?12:04
Dr_Willisbugs exist. :)12:04
xgt001ikonia: so no matter what you do, i am getting 30-40% less battery in natty12:04
ikoniaxgt001: mines about the same (ball park figures)12:05
Dr_Willisive not noticed much differance either.. but on the windows side. my laptop has this 'extreme powersaveing feature' whcih If i use that.. it does give me some more battery. but it makes tye system next to unuseable  for anything other then web surfing. and even thats slow12:06
xgt001actually it seems to be the fault of 2.6.38 kernel series, so all distros based on this kernel , have this problem including natty12:06
ikoniaxgt001: why are you asking about this if you know there is a bug ?12:06
xgt001ikonia: i want to rollback to 10.10 , but i want to confirm if the battery life is more in maverick, so that the downgrade doesnt go in vain :)12:07
ikoniaxgt001: you can't roll back - you'll need to reinstall12:07
xgt001ikonia: apologies, i meant reinstall12:07
ikoniaxgt001: and no, I don't believe the battery life is different in 10.10 - I have roughly the same run time with generic use12:07
xgt001ikonia: what about 10.04?12:08
ikoniaxgt001: again roughly the same, but in honest I haven't used 10.04 against 11.04 directly, only 10.04 against 10.10 and it was roughly the same12:09
rlyikonia: I suppose it depends on the exact implementation of the device. One could simply send it to all and then in the case that one machine doesn't send any reply, it would still work.12:10
ikoniarly: no - it doesn't, ipconflicts never work12:10
ikoniarly: 2 devices on the same network cannot share the same ip address, if they are speerate or on the same machine, they cannot co-exist12:11
Sia-hi¨12:11
jo-erlendI have a laptop with an external monitor. The laptops main mode is 1366x768 and the external uses 1920x1080, but it also supports 1366x768. When I let both screens show the same, I only get the options 1024x768, 800x600 and 600x480. If they show individual screens, they get the correct options.12:12
d3vic3what is the "store" directory in my home is for plz?12:12
jo-erlendany ideas?12:12
jo-erlendd3vic3, that's english? It's not default. I haven't seen it.12:13
d3vic3jo-erlend : ~$ ls store/12:13
d3vic3filelist.dbs  filesStore.dbs  gixSlots.dbs  identities.dbs  messageArchive.dbs  messagesContents.dbs  messages.dbs  sfChkKeys.dbs12:13
d3vic3it's taking some space and don't know to whom it belongs :/12:14
carlotuxsono su ubuntu-it-test ? date conferma grazie.12:14
rlyI set the language in gdm, I set it in System -> <whatever> -> <whatever>, still I get an "Application"-menu in English and not in the selected language for some user. How can I make it such that it displays "Application" in the native language?12:14
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rlyAlternatively, how do I set the default language in GDM as an administrator?12:14
jo-erlendd3vic3, http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net/12:14
d3vic3jo-erlend : thanks, it's been a long time since I used frost... it's shit12:17
jo-erlendd3vic3, I actually forwarded your paste to Google. There was only one reply.12:18
d3vic3jo-erlend : used everything but this trick... but it's great to have ppl help :)12:19
tsaknorristhere has to be some way to edit or just give parameters for ubuntus native driver12:19
jo-erlendd3vic3, sure. Glad I could help. :)12:20
tsaknorrislike fglx has catalyst where you can edit but i can manage with CLI version too12:20
jo-erlendtsaknorris?12:20
tsaknorrisjo-erlend,12:20
tsaknorriswhat12:20
tsaknorrisi cant use fglx driver because it doesnt work well12:21
tsaknorrisnative works smoothly12:21
BluesKajHiyas12:21
Dr_Willisthe gpl driver may be lacking features. thats just ioften a sad fact of life12:21
tsaknorrisbut i cant play savage2 because the units are missing or driver doesnt know how to draw them on screen12:21
tsaknorrisits looks like it works (even it doesnt) i just mean that im so close that maybe some parameter forcing stuff would help12:22
ray_hi all12:25
ray_im having file sharing between win7 and ubuntu 10.1012:25
ray_im having file sharing problems between win7 and ubuntu 10.1012:25
Fudgeanyone well versed on creating ssl certificates?12:25
ray_ubuntu can see all my win7 shares but win7 cant access my ubuntu shares12:26
hotmedal@ray, ssh, wynaut?12:26
ray_dont know...12:27
Fudgethats  wha ti dont know, its for a nokia so i can self sign apps12:27
FudgeUnsigned version must sign with a 17 capabilities Dev Cert before installation.12:27
hotmedaluse WinSCP or something to SSH into your Ubuntu12:28
vecray_: is it a dual boot machine?12:28
vecvery well12:28
hotmedallol12:29
ray_vec: No12:30
pradeephello12:30
ray_i tried samba and pretty much stuff on the inet but still no luck12:31
vecthen you did it possibly wrong12:32
ray_ubuntu can access all my win7 shares but vise versa!12:32
pradeepquit12:32
vecyou need to be more precise in what you did, what doesnt work12:32
ray_ubuntu can access all my win7 shares but not vise versa!12:33
vecnote that i have no experience with samba what so ever12:33
ray_both workgroup names the same for ubuntu and win7. enabled shares on ubuntu but win7 doesnt see it12:34
ray_ubuntu running on wireless connection...12:35
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xgt001excuse me every1, can you suggest me a link to download the deb files for stable 2.6.37 kernel for natty?12:35
szalxgt001: Natty always came w/ 2.6.38, so I doubt that there is a 2.6.37 for Natty12:36
xgt001szal : I checked the site http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  I am confused which version of 2.6.37 is stable... could you please suggest?12:37
szalxgt001: mainline is a completely unpatched kernel (on most other distros called vanilla), and you shouldn't really use it unless you have a good reason to12:38
robin0800ray_: you did install samba?12:38
xgt001szal: could you suggest a download link for a patched 2.6.37 stable kernel for natty?12:39
szalxgt001: there is none that I'm aware of12:41
alterranxgt001: you can download a kernel from kernel.org but you will need to know how to edit your grub.conf12:42
xgt001alterran: I don't know how to compile :(12:43
alterranthat is a fairly advanced procedure12:43
alterranxgt001:  is there a reason you feel you need the newer kernel?12:43
xgt001alterran: should we I compile the kernel after I download it from kernel.org to install it?12:43
xgt001sorry for bad english12:44
llutz_alterran: since natty comes with 2.6.38, its an older kernel he looks for (whyever)12:44
konsuehello12:44
alterranxgt001: yes it would need to be compiled with proper options selected, a fairly advanced procedure12:44
konsueplease tell me how to use floppy12:45
konsuei do not see it in the gui12:45
Dr_Willis!floppy12:45
konsueI need my floppy to work12:45
ubottuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone12:45
llutz_!kernel > xgt001 read this to get an idea how to comile your own kernel12:45
ubottuxgt001, please see my private message12:45
xgt001llutz_: I want to check whether the power regression bug of 2.6.38 exists in 2.6.37 also12:45
Dr_Willistry mounting it by hand if  you just need quick access to it right now. be sure to unmount it befor removeing it.12:45
Tyrnisplop all12:48
szalalterran: downloading from kernel.org is wasted effort, if you'd like that you can as well use the precompiled mainline kernels12:49
DruleHi. I am having problems with my WiFi icon in the upper right corner.12:49
DruleWhen I try to connect to one of the available networks, nothing happens.12:49
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DruleThe menu just goes away, and it doesn't even feel/seem/look like it loads anything as a reaction to me clicking on one of the options.12:49
DruleEr, on one of the available wifi networks.12:50
konsueI chenged the fstab entry for the fd0. Now what should I do?12:50
alterranszal: he wanted a kernel I have not seen pre-compiled. I just use gentoo12:50
Co_HI removed Ubuntu from Ubuntu-Windows dual boot PC. I can't get access to XP nor the XP CD to repair the MBR12:50
Co_HWhat do I do>12:50
konsueBy the way, there was no entry for ft0 in fstab, so I just added a new one.12:50
konsueDr_Willis12:51
Dr_Williskonsue:  use the mount command,  and make sure the mouintpioint exists12:51
xgt001szal: if at all I were to use the mainline kernel from kernel.ubuntu.com ( stable 2.6.37) which is the one to download? I mean there are so many rcs and 2.6.37.xx12:51
Dr_Willis!mount | konsue12:51
ubottukonsue: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount12:51
konsueOK, I'll try.12:51
konsue:)12:51
szalxgt001: most likely the one w/ the highest dot number count after the 3712:51
Co_HPls help12:51
szalxgt001: certainly not an rc12:51
xgt001szal: suppose I download 2.6.37.6 will it be very similar to 2.6.38 or will it be the bug fix release of 2.6.37?12:52
Dr_WillisCo_H:  you no longer want any uybuntu on the system? or whats your end goal?12:53
konsueI get I/O error.12:53
konsueMaybe I need to format the disket.12:53
mediaworkhi,12:54
konsueHow do I this?12:54
Co_HDr_Willis: I deleted Ubuntu partition and as there is no longer grub, I can't access Windows12:54
mediaworkis anyone here quite familiar with how lm-sensors works?12:54
konsue!mount12:54
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount12:54
konsue!formqt12:54
Co_HHow do I retain the MBR or whatever you call it12:54
konsue!format12:55
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap12:55
mediaworkI installed this on my ubuntu, to get temperature readings from the cpu and motherboard12:55
mediaworkand I am getting non-sensical temp readings... and temp changes... I think12:55
rlymediawork: lm-sensors does not support every piece of hardware in the world.12:55
Dr_WillisCo_H:  if you  dont want linxui any more. You need to somehow restore the windows mbr, using a windows cd. (a recovery cd may not work) or use some of the super-grub-boot disk, or other live-cd tools out there. #windows should point you to some.12:55
mediaworkunless, any part of an amd phenom processor/motherboard should go over 120 deg C12:56
mediaworkrly: right, but I would have thought maybe one of the most common piece of hardware...12:56
rlymediawork: it could be all sorts of things.12:56
Dr_Willismediawork:  thats not supriseing. often the MB makers do things oddly. and the sensors tools need to be tweaked to reinterperate the temps corectly12:56
rlymediawork: this is not the place to discuss such specific technical details.12:56
rlymediawork: contact the mailing list for lm-sensors.12:56
Dr_Willisthe lm-sensors homepage may have some info on spefific chipsets/issues.12:57
rlymediawork: and read the manual first to make sure you have done everything that is needed.12:57
mediaworkDr_Willis, rly:  right, ok, thanks anyways.  btw... are you guys using this software?12:57
Dr_WillisUsing which software?12:57
rlymediawork: yes, but my hardware is too new.12:57
xgt001mediawork: did you try sensor-detect after installing lm-sensors>12:57
mediaworkrly: rfm, yeah have as much as is available... their website also hasnt been much updated it seems last 4 years.12:58
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mediaworkxgt001: yes, according to instructions i did the sensor detect...12:58
rlymediawork: as long as the software is still updated.12:58
rlymediawork: otherwise file some kind of orphan package message on Launchpad, if there is also no maintainer anymore.12:59
xgt001mediawork: if you use the gnome applets then the values are not updated very frequently12:59
mediaworkrly, Dr_Willis, xgt001:  I am surprised there isnt something more definite already available with ubuntu..12:59
rlymediawork: at that point someone can decide to fork it for example.12:59
Dr_Willisvery 'new' hardware is often problematc12:59
mediaworkxgt001:   the gnome applet I am using fetches the values from lm-sensors12:59
Dr_Willisive had no issues with lm-sendors and my 3+yr old stuff.12:59
rlymediawork: I have been told the specifications for these chips are open, yet I have never seen such documents.13:00
Dr_Willisthere are spefific lm-sensors condfigs in /etc/ you can tweak also.13:00
rlyI would implement it for my own hardware as an exercise otherwise.13:00
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xgt001mediawork:exactly,..if I try sensors from terminal I get more accurate reading than the gnome applet13:00
rlyIt cannot possibly be difficult (< 1 hour of work) with documentation.13:00
landingonwaterhmm... is there a good tutorial for connecting with SSH ?13:00
Dr_Willis!ssh13:01
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)13:01
mediaworkxgt001: I get the same values,  but if I run from the terminal I simply get the value when I want it.13:01
landingonwaterIm trying to connect to my cloud server at rackspace13:01
Dr_Willislandingonwater:   ssh books and guides are all over the place.13:01
Dr_Willislandingonwater:  ssh remotemachinenameorip13:01
rlylandingonwater: just read the instructions which rackspace has given you.13:01
xgt001mediawork: apologies,... could you tell me your specs?13:02
konsueThank you Dr_Willis!13:03
mediaworkxgt001: my specs, are MB is  GA-880GM-D2H   and CPU is  AMD Phenom II X4 96513:04
rlyNice, it appears that at least some sensors now work.13:04
landingonwaterrly: thanks.. hmm.. right.. so I need to log in and generate the key to get startet. bumbum... thanks :)13:04
rlylandingonwater: I don't know their specific instructions.13:04
xgt001mediawork: what's the critical temperature shown by sensors ??13:05
mediaworkxgt001:  here is a typical readout of sensors (when my PC is doing nothing)  http://pastebin.com/Thk93Ybg13:06
mediaworkxgt001:  it seems it didnt config the critical temperature correctly, I think.13:06
landingonwaterrly: i was more looking for the basics using ssh. to connect the first time. I think its something like: shh connect ip yada yada13:06
mediaworkxgt001: and it didnt label the 4 different temp sensors with a name that is understandable...13:06
rlymediawork: I didn't configure anything. I just ran sensors-detect and followed instructions.13:06
mediaworkxgt001:  its only temp1 temp2 temp3 ...13:06
rlymediawork: it depends on the chip, I think.13:07
mediaworkrly, xgt001:  I also ran sensors-detect13:07
rlylandingonwater: you would just go to the website of ssh and read the manual, just like with a toaster or a new car.13:07
xgt001well the high and low temps shown by sensors look crazy13:07
mediaworkrly: xgt001:  and then I did get loads of new thermal readings... but they are some silly, and behave silly13:07
xgt001are you on 11.04?13:07
landingonwaterrly: but I feel lazy :D13:08
mediaworkxgt001: ehm no, I think 10.1 or smthng. wait13:08
rlylandingonwater: so, then pay someone to do it for you.13:08
mediaworkLinux hroi-GA-880GM-D2H 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux13:08
vecssh user@domain[:port]13:08
vecits that easy13:08
mediaworkthis is uname -a13:08
rlymediawork: you are right that it contains inconsistent data.13:08
aexpertHi. Can I host my websites on my own computer with ubuntu server?13:08
landingonwatervec: thanks. hmm.. true.. thats easy :) thanks13:09
rlymediawork: you should report that as a bug.13:09
vecaexpert: yes, potentially13:09
rlymediawork: especially the low=127 high=70 one.13:09
mediaworkrly, xgt001: that or maybe my CPU is faulty and I should return it13:09
rlymediawork: that is possible, but unlikely.13:09
vecaexpert: if you dont have a static ip you will need dydns or some solution13:09
xgt001mediawork: I think it's a bug with sensors13:10
xgt001try updating it, or try 11.04?13:10
mediaworkrly: xgt001: btw... I have checked my MB firmware and all should be fine... no reported problems with temp readings.13:10
aexpertvec: I've installed ubuntu server, apache2, php5, mysql, and joomla cms. I can access my website from my own computer, but can't see it from another computer.13:10
vecs/dydns/dyndns/13:10
Dr_Willisaexpert:  yiou may need to port forward  if its behind a router/firewall13:10
xgt001mediawork: I mean the lm-sensors :) .... I think the sensors in 10.10 is buggy13:10
rlymediawork: I think your question has no been answered. Your possible actions: report it at the appriate place or do nothing. :)13:10
rlynow*13:11
rlyappropriate*13:11
aexpertI don't know how to do that, the computer has (for now) a wireless usb stick connection.13:11
xgt001I tried sensors in 11.04 it works fine a13:11
aexpertMobile broadband13:11
mediaworkxgt001, rly:  is there an easy way to update only the lm-sensor library?  not the whole ubuntu?13:11
rlymediawork: you run 10.10?13:11
BlouBlouaexpert: You can, just install apache213:11
BlouBlou!apache2 | aexpert13:11
BlouBlou!apache | aexpert13:11
ubottuaexpert: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)13:11
rlymediawork: you can also just install the latest lm-sensors from source.13:11
mediaworkrly: yeah, well uname -a is ...  2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux13:12
rlymediawork: it is likely easy to compile it.13:12
Dr_Willisaexpert:  you proberly need to check your wireless routers docs.13:12
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aexpertBlouBlou: , it's installed LAMP is working. I can access my website if I call in browser http://xx.xx.xx.xx/website , but can't acces it from the internet13:12
aexpertDr_Willis: and if I will have a connection with a static IP, that problem will be gone by itself?13:13
llutz_aexpert: does you mob-broadband provider use NAT for connection? compare "ifconfig" with "http://whatismyip.com", if those IPs differ, you cannot access your website from inet, since your provider won't allow it13:13
aexpertllutz_: the IP's differ :D13:13
Dr_Willisaexpert:  it depends on how you are connecting to the internet...13:13
Dr_Willisaexpert:  and if you are usiong a router or not13:14
mediaworkrly:  my 10.10 asks me if I want to update to 11... is this completely safe?13:14
aexpertI use some king of huge netweork connection, fiberlink13:14
aexpertmediawork: nothing is completely safe :)13:14
llutz_aexpert: in that case your ISP has to configure port-forwarding. I doubt he'll do...13:15
vecif updating from 10.10, will brazero be replace, or is it only replaced on fresh installs (dont remember the name of the new bruning app)13:15
Dr_Willisvec:  the new app will proberly be installed and the old one kept.13:16
Dr_WillisI never even noticed there being a 'new' one.13:16
mediaworkaexpert: what does it really do... does it iron out my /  and leave my /home alone?13:16
aexpertllutz_: thanks, I'm trying to see if that's the final solution, don't wanna call the ISP if I don't know what I need.13:16
mediaworkaexpert: that would be fine by me btw...13:16
mediaworkaexpert: ahh but I want it to leave my /opt alone too13:17
vecaexpert: cant you just enter the IP from whatismyip.com?13:17
llutz_aexpert: easier to get some cheap webspace13:17
vecin your browser*13:17
aexpertmediawork: theoretically no. But could leave some hardware (like network) not working :D13:17
vecllutz_: true13:17
BlouBlouaxisys: If you're under router, forward port 80 to your local IP13:17
BlouBlouaexpert: ^13:17
llutz_vec: if the ISP uses NAT, he can't13:17
aexpertvec: I can see the IP there, but when I access http://my.ip/site it doesnt work, and I found another IP with iconfig and only with that one http://my.ip/site works13:18
vecso, if he gets banned in here, all people behind the same nat-router/switch are banned too?13:18
llutz_vec: thats the same situation as being behind a router without having port-forwarding configured. portforwarding has to be done at the ISP, which unlikely will do it.13:18
frankS2vec: depends on the ban ;D13:18
rlymediawork: it worked on my system without any issue.13:18
rlymediawork: that doesn't mean it will work on yours, but it likely does.13:19
vecnot really a ubuntu issue anyway :/13:19
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Co_H!ms-sys13:20
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Co_HHi, why is ms-sys not in repos?13:22
vecspeaking of network: i wanted to be able to connect my broadband modem or my router as needed, both on eth0. the router worked automatically from the beginning, the setting was auto eth0 sth like that, then i ran `pppoeconf eth0' and now i can use the modem with `pon dsl-provider' but the router cant connect. what should i do to get that router working again?13:22
TaevJust a quick question, whose bright idea was it to name the new ubuntu district 11.04 after something that translates as "Corpse Whale" ?13:23
bl4ckcomb`Co_H, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86834213:24
osseI'm on a Norwegian keyboard so I have ø/Ø as a regular letter key to the right of L. I want to bind Ctrl+Ø to the Escape key. How can I do that?13:24
bl4ckcomb`osse, you probably want to extend xkb mappings13:25
beef-supremehello13:25
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Co_Hbl4ckcomb`: oh, anyways, I compiled it from source13:26
Co_HThanks13:26
beef-supremei'm getting13:26
beef-supremeError: no default or UI configuration directive found when trying to boot13:26
ossebl4ckcomb`, thanks. Sorry, but I have no idea how to do that. Could you point me in the right direction? Does it involve xmodmap ?13:26
bl4ckcomb`osse, http://madduck.net/docs/extending-xkb/13:26
cafenethow can i have my own  ubuntu distro13:26
cafenet?13:27
Dr_Willis!remaster | cafenet13:27
ubottucafenet: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility13:27
nanomaddoes anyone here use nuveau with a nvidia GTX2xx ? Because whenever i try it the mouse feels "skippy"13:28
vecis the description of my problem not detailed enough?13:28
Dr_Willisvec:  you are switching from your modem, to a local lan router?13:29
vecDr_Willis: yes, its a router with integrated modem, a fritz!box13:30
vecand dhcp used to work13:31
bl4ckcomb`vec, does it run a dhcp ?13:31
vecyes, it does13:31
vecwith livecd it works seemlessly13:31
nerdshell1one I installed Natty, there's like an imaginary band in my screen(nearly in the middle) where clicking with my pointer does not work, I'm using an Hp Pavilion. Any help please ?13:31
Dr_Willisvec:  i dont think we understand what you are doing/switching.. I just connect to my router.. and the router is connected to the internet.  I dont need to do anything then enable dhcp.13:31
nightcrowhi guys13:31
nanomadvec: what happens if you run dhclient in console as root13:31
nanomad?13:31
nanomadhi nightcrow13:31
nightcrowhow can i tell which version of ubuntu i am running13:31
nightcrow64 or 3213:31
Dr_Willis!version13:32
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »13:32
nanomadnightcrow: uname -m13:32
llutz_lsb_release -a13:32
nightcrowi know i have 9.0413:32
MonkeyDustvec: is it a router combined with modem?13:32
nightcrowlsb_release doesnt show that llutz_13:32
bl4ckcomb`nightcrow, uname -a13:32
nightcrownor does uname -a13:32
nanomadnightcrow: uname -m13:32
Dr_Williswhqats your kernel name nightcrow?13:32
llutz_nightcrow:sry havent read your 2nd line :)13:32
nightcrowand uname -m shows x86_6413:32
nightcrowso its confusing13:32
Dr_Willisthere ya go.. its _6413:32
nanomadnightcrow: it's 64bit13:32
bl4ckcomb`nightcrow, you have Linux x86_6413:32
nightcrowx86_64? isnt x83 32 bit?13:33
bl4ckcomb`64 bit13:33
Dr_WillisNo its not nightcrow.13:33
nightcrow^x8613:33
bl4ckcomb`x86_6413:33
vecnanomad: sec, need to get sudo working :'D13:33
nightcrowok, so what would it say if it was 32?13:33
nanomadnightcrow: its a 64bit cpu with binary x86 compatibilty13:33
Dr_Willisthats just the string to show its 64bit.. other wise i thinkits just x8613:33
llutz_nightcrow: i686 == 3213:33
nightcrowDr_Willis: llutz_  if i was to do uname -m and it was 32bit, i would just see x86?13:34
llutz_nightcrow: i686 == 3213:34
nightcrowah, ok13:34
nightcrowthank you sir13:34
nerdshellonce I installed Natty, there's like an imaginary band in my screen(nearly in the middle) where clicking with my pointer does not work, I'm using an Hp Pavilion. Any help please ?13:34
nanomadnerdshell: what GPU do you have?13:34
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  try adding a new user - see if it affexts them13:34
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  how wide a band? how tall?13:35
vec_needed to switch users, sorry13:35
NikroHi guys, I'm pretty new to linux, anyway I've read that ubuntu-desktop in 11.04 is Unity, how can I install purely gnome-desktop?13:35
nerdshellnanomad: how do I know which GPU I'm using ?13:35
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nanomadNikro: before logging in select gnome in the bottom bar+13:35
llutz_!classic | Nikro13:35
ubottuNikro: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".13:35
Dr_Willisniko:  for 11.04 - basically you dont. there may be some unofficial old-gnome-ppa's but ive not heard of them.13:35
Dr_Willisniko:  use the gnome-classic for  whats very close to the old gnome-interface13:35
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nanomadnerdshell: you should know, the laptop/computer is yours13:35
Nikronanomad, llutz_, Dr_Willis: thnx so I guess I will have to install ubuntu-desktop anyway)13:36
ossebl4ckcomb`, thanks, I'll look into that13:36
nerdshellDr_Willis: well, I just logged out / in and it fixed it.13:37
vec_nerdshell: to find what gpu u have try glxinfo13:38
vec_do u mean the card name=13:38
vec_?13:38
vec_thats ``glxinfo|grep "renderer string"''13:38
szallspci will mostly be as good13:39
NikroI have uninstalled ubuntu-desktop earlier (it was a fresh ubuntu install so I just re-installed ubuntu) because I couldn't get my dual-screen setup right =\ Do you have some links that would help me out with it? (my issue was that one screen was turning off, videocard drivers were installed)13:40
vec_nanomad: what should dhclient show me?13:40
vec_the router is not connected atm, the modem is13:40
nanomadso its PC->modem ?13:41
vec_yes13:41
vec_that works np13:41
vec_its the router that doesnt work automatically anymore13:41
vec_also, the network connetion indicator (im on 10.4) in the pannel is missing13:41
nanomadvec_: is the dhcp service enabled on the router?13:41
vec_yes it is13:42
nanomadvec_: that's strange13:42
bl4ckcomb`Nikro, is it nvidia?13:42
llutz_vec_: you set the router to "client has authentication data"13:42
vec_the router works on live-cd13:42
nanomadtry reinstalling network-manager-gnome13:42
vec_llutz_: i ran pppoeconf13:42
Nikrobl4ckcomb`: it's ati13:42
llutz_vec_: that won't affect router connectivity at all. just the connection pc<->router13:43
vec_llutz_: how did i set the router to "client has authentication data"?13:43
llutz_vec_: you shouldn't do at all.13:43
bl4ckcomb`Nikro, I read there is a aticonfig command, have you checked it out yet?13:44
llutz_vec_: "sudo poff && sudo killall pppd && sudo dhclient eth0"13:44
llutz_vec_: will drop your inet-connection, be carefull13:44
Nikrobl4ckcomb`: nope, I'll search that13:45
vec_llutz_: i will try in a moment13:45
vec_llutz_: just tell me what you ment when u said that about "client has authentication data"13:46
llutz_vec_: that should have been a question, lacking the questionmark13:46
vec_i thought u ment it was set already and you read that in the dhclient output13:46
vec_brb13:47
vec_llutz_: where would i set that, if i did so accidentally?13:47
llutz_vec_: "somewhere" in the fritz!box connection-setting13:48
Nikrook erm, one more question, how can I disable ubuntu-desktop autostart ?13:48
llutz_vec_: sry its long ago i used such a thing13:48
vec_k13:48
vec_then i didnt13:48
vec__llutz_: dhcp didnt work13:54
vec__should i connect the router before i do dhclient eth0?13:54
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vec__maybe a stupid question >_<13:54
frankS2vec__: you need to insert a cable yes13:54
compdocheh13:54
llutz_vec__: isn't the router connected all the time?13:54
vec__no, i only have one ethernetcard13:55
vec__i switch between router and modem13:55
vec__llutz_: as long as i do poff before changing connections i shouldnt have a problem doing both, right?13:56
llutz_vec__: right13:57
llutz_vec__: make sure there's no more pppd running13:57
matteo_ciao13:58
matteo_!list13:59
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bl4ckcomb`does anyone know how I can share my clipboard between my host and a rdesktop session? I've added -r clipboard:PRIMARYCLIPBOARD, but that doesn't seem to work14:02
delinquentmeim having a case of poop in .. poop out .. with setting   PERSISTENT environmental variables in etc/environment ... so im looking at the PATH var thats in there .. and after going through the ubuntuy manpages on printenv it seems as if putting the line: "CROSSBOW_HOME=/home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/"    SHOULD assign a persistent env var to the CROSSBOW_HOME .. however it does not ... suggestions anyone?14:02
tsaknorrisok this is very important. i solved one GPU acceleration problem so please someone write it down :)14:03
tsaknorrisi made xorg.conf file with natty (ati radeon 3600) and added Option    "ColorTiling" "true" and Option    "AccelMethod" "EXA" lines to  Section "device"14:05
tsaknorrisand also14:05
tsaknorrischange from compiz under opengl --> texture filter: fast and took sync to vblank cross away14:06
tsaknorrisnow this is fast!14:06
delorianHello14:06
tsaknorrisi hope someone will write that down :)14:06
krambleHi i just installed ubuntu 11.04 and there are many things i don't know where to configurate14:06
kramblewhere can I disable workspaces ?14:06
smwkramble, why would you want to?14:07
smwkramble, you can just remove the applet. But I think it is a nice feature :-)14:07
kramblesmw, i just want one workspace14:08
krambleand exactly one14:08
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smwkramble, ok, right click on them. -> preferences -> columns 114:10
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smwkramble, then delete the workspace applet14:10
kramblesmw, right click does nothing on this icon14:10
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smwkramble, ah sorry. I am on the old ubuntu, 10.1014:10
smwkramble, no idea how to do it on 11.0414:11
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krambledoes someone know how to block the bar of application at the left of my screen (prevent it from hiding) ?14:12
bl4ckcomb`kramble, in Unity?14:13
krambleyes i think14:14
bl4ckcomb`kramble, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9865/how-can-i-configure-unitys-launcher-auto-hide-behavior14:14
kramblebl4ckcomb`, thank you14:14
andeeeukHey Everyone14:14
andeeeukHey Everyone14:14
McFaddenI have an SSD drive. How do I execute the TRIM command? Is it though hdparm --trim-sector-ranges <mydrive>? Do I have to do this manually, or does EXT4 do it automatically? I'm using 10.10.14:14
andeeeukdoes anyone here know how to setup conky?14:14
IdleOnekramble: to remove the workspace switcher: CompizConfig Settings Manager -> General Options -> Desktop Size14:15
andeeeukor have any instructions14:15
bl4ckcomb`andeeeuk, you mean install?14:15
andeeeukbl4ckcomb` : yeeah14:15
bl4ckcomb`andeeeuk, sudo apt-get install conky ?14:15
geraud__hello, I have a black screen after suspend or hibernate my laptop Gateway NV59C intel HD Graphics, intel core i3-330M14:16
cousteauandeeeuk, google for some conkyrc files14:17
geraud__please someone can help me to fix it ?14:17
cousteau(or read the doc and write your own... but you might prefer starting with some examples)14:17
shududyhellog guys14:18
shududywhen i open a browser o a related program, my system suspends after 10 min14:18
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xgt001excuse me14:21
xgt001i installed mainline kernel from ppa (2.6.37)14:21
xgt001it fails to boot, it crashes in midway stating (initializing radeon )14:22
Polahxgt001: Sounds like a bad display driver.14:23
xgt001Polah: it boots in the default natty kernel14:23
RedRobotdoes your screen just go black, or does it actually hang?14:23
RedRobotif the former, try disabeling outputs you don't use using the video kernel param14:23
xgt001RedRobot: it doesnt go blank... it crashes at ubuntu logo ...14:23
cousteausomebody should update the package youtube-dl, doesn't work on maverick...14:23
Polahxgt001: But that's a different kernel. Default Natty is 2.6.38 (for me, at least). Hence, if you installed a driver on that version of the kernel and are now attempting to downgrade it may not work.14:24
RedRobotxgt001: could try to boot with plymouth disabled14:25
xgt001Polah: i just installed with the open drivers.. after a fresh reinstall....i dint install ANYTHING except the OS and the extra kernel14:25
Polahxgt001: Is there any reason you need .37?14:25
leakyis it possible to hide certain applications on a desktop account? (im an ubuntu newbie)14:25
xgt001RedRobot,Polah: i had exactly same problem with 2.6.39.114:25
McFaddenIsn't the wiper.sh script supposed to be included the hdparm shipped in Ubuntu 10.10?14:26
xgt001i want to get extra battery life in .3714:26
cousteauleaky, what do you mean? hide the launcher?14:26
leakyyeah that'd be good, i was originally thinking just hiding stuff like terminac.14:26
leakyterminal etc*14:26
Polahleaky: You could put them on another workspace, but that doesn't really hide them.14:27
leakycan you remove the 'applications' launcher at the top? or is that not possible?14:27
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Polahleaky: yeah, just right click the logo and click remove from panel.14:28
leaky@polah cheers, ill give it a try..14:29
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xgt001any suggestions for me?14:30
leakypolah - worked a treat. nice one. thx!14:31
Polahxgt001, the kernel you have could be corrupt or incomplete. Just a suggestion.14:32
xgt001Polah: but the i dont know about .37 but .39.1 was indeed a stable kernel downloaded14:32
Ryannhow would i force remove fglrx-amdcccle?14:34
Polahxgt001: Doesn't mean .37 is. Could also be a bad install of the drivers.14:34
alain_rpointel14:35
PolahRyann: Use the --force-yes flag maybe. I'd be careful though, it might do something else along the way.14:36
hbjhgghghhi all14:36
hbjhgghghwho know how to register channel with pass ?14:37
canthus13hbjhgghgh: try #freenode14:38
bastidrazorhbjhgghgh: ask in #freenode14:38
oCeanhbjhgghgh: ask in #freenode14:38
oCeanyeah, or that :)14:38
hbjhgghghthx14:38
markskilbeckHi, all. After connecting to VPN using the network manager, I'm no longer able to access the web. However, if I use kvpnc it works fine.14:38
RyannPolah, thanks14:39
Polahmarkskilbeck, I imagine that's because your interface is being used to connect to the VPN and thus you need to disconnect from that and reconnect to your usual connection to use the internet normally.14:39
orko213Oh hai  of /NAMES list.14:40
* orko213 Waves at of /NAMES list.14:40
markskilbeckHmm. Nevermind... I'll stick with kvpnc for now then.14:41
jfcaronAnyone know where/how rhythmbox keeps the list of files that it knows about?  I'd like to know how much disk space is used up for that purpose.14:42
oCeanjfcaron: see ~/.local/share/rhythmbox14:44
Nikrothat is the ditro name for Ubuntu 11.04 server?14:45
shududy2hi guys, i have a problem, when i start web browsers like firefox or chromium, my system suspends after a few minutes, i think it may be because of graphic acceleretors14:45
shududy2how can i make a troubleshooting14:45
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* Nikro nevermind)14:46
KrupteinHey I want to open a local file in the default browser from command line,  xdg-open  won't open a file in a browser,   so what are my alternatives?14:47
myrmidetteKruptein, see if there's a $BROWSER shell variable14:47
padi999My Lenovo Thinkpad has a SIM Card slot, can I receive/write SMS through it or at least access sms or contacts on the sim card?14:49
jiohdishududy2, you can disable the driver and see what that does14:50
jiohdishududy2, if it works on normal mode you know its the driver14:50
jiohdiKruptein, save the file as html and then just click on it14:51
jiohdiKruptein, plain text will just print out... or you can use word or libre and save it with formatting in html14:53
Krupteinmyrmidette: nope it's empty14:55
myrmidette:(14:55
KrupteinI hoped to find out how xdg-open found the default browser14:56
Krupteinthis is the line in xdg-open  that sets the $BROWSER http://dpaste.com/553379/14:57
Krupteinbut if I do xdg-open http://google.com     it will open opera as it's my default   but I can't find any reference to opera in whole the xdg-open file14:57
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jiohdiyou can create a launcher from your home folder with a file you create called url.sh  using #bash with a line like xdg-open URL14:58
Ang3hey guys - i want to install Ubuntu in Triple boot on my Macbook pro 7.1 but i see in the doc that the touchpad don't works well14:58
Ang3Is there a way to fix  ?14:58
Ang3it14:58
Krupteinjiohdi: it's for in a program that runs on other people their computer,  I'm not going to create launchers etc14:58
jiohdiKruptein, its supposed to use your prefered browser set in preferred apps14:59
deneshi i have this sources http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/kernel/people/mcgrof/zd1211/LinuxUSB_AR2524-3.0.0.56.tgz and downloaded this directory http://htl10.users.sourceforge.net/patchsets/LinuxUSB_AR2524-3.0.0.56/ now please someone just tell me what do i type into the terminal to apply these patches. i tried "patch -i 0001..." and it just gave me hunk #1..16 failed14:59
deneseveryone seems to use this so it must work i'm just not familiar with just how to apply patches15:00
McFaddenIs the wiper.sh script shipped with hdparm in later versions than 10.10? I don't have it in 10.10.15:00
jiohdiKruptein, sorry I helped, did not mean to offend you15:00
Krupteinjiohdi: huh you didn't? :D15:00
nmvictorI cant install compiz-dev in Natty, I try and I get some dependecies error: Details are here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10931196&posted=1#post10931196 , someone please hava a look and help15:01
Krupteinjiohdi: it's good you try to help, I just need a command-line way to open a local file in the browser15:01
rationalOgreKruptein: What browser do you wish to use?15:02
bastidrazorMcFadden: wiper.sh is in Natty's hdparm15:02
KrupteinrationalOgre: the default of the system15:02
McFaddenbastidrazor, What version is Natty?15:02
bastidrazorMcFadden: 11.0415:02
McFaddenok15:02
KrupteinrationalOgre: I don't want to force every user of my program to use one specific browser15:03
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rationalOgreKruptein: Just use gnome-open then.15:03
rationalOgreKruptein: If you are making it Ubuntu specific15:03
KrupteinrationalOgre: but if someone set to open a .html by default with a text-editor  gnome-open won't open the browser15:04
jp_Hello all15:08
theadminHey jp_15:08
Krupteinhi15:08
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jp_How is everyone today15:08
jp_?15:08
theadminjp_: Wrong channel.15:09
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jp_ahh yes not a chitchat room15:09
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jp_on my way then15:09
orko213Oh hai spanky!15:09
* orko213 Waves at spanky15:09
rationalOgreKruptein: On my xdg-open it ends up calling gnome-open anyway.15:10
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nmvictorIs anybody able to install compiz-dev in his Natty Narwhal system, I have a dependecy error with my installation.15:10
KrupteinrationalOgre: yes on my xdg too15:10
KrupteinrationalOgre: but that's not my problem =D15:10
rationalOgreKruptein: Ok. So then what is it, cause all I saw was something about you wanting it to open the browser but it kept opening opera and you didn't know why.15:11
nerdshellthe option is --non-verbose or --no-verbose ?15:11
KrupteinrationalOgre: no you jumped on too late :p   so I want to have a command-line option to open a local file in the default browser15:12
fjgj@find Welcome to St Tropez15:12
rationalOgreKruptein: So what happens when you pass it a file:// url?15:12
KrupteinrationalOgre: if I pass a file to xdg-open or gnome-open  they will open it with the default program (which probably is an editor)  but I want to open it with the default browser15:13
th0rKruptein: just call the browser by name, firefox, opera, nautilus, etc15:14
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Krupteinth0r: it's not for personal use, it's for a program15:14
rationalOgreKruptein: Just tested on my system. Opened with firefox.15:15
KrupteinrationalOgre: what did you test exactly15:15
rationalOgreKruptein: Did it with an XML file, which is associated with VIM btw.15:15
rationalOgre(well technically gvim)15:15
rationalOgreKruptein: xdg-open file://~/settings.xml15:15
Krupteinwell if I do  gnome-open  /home/kruptein/file.py   it just opens in deditor15:16
rblsthi, i've just downloaded xubuntu 11.04 and been trying to install it on a PII 400 Mhz machine with 512 MB RAM, but i get a kernel panic even before the installer loads, what can i do about it?15:16
KrupteinrationalOgre: also if I do  file:///home/kruptein/file.py15:16
RedRobotKruptein: that is the right thing to do15:16
RedRobotKruptein: specially if it is not +x15:16
alvinPHrblst: maybe your downloaded iso is corrupted15:16
delinquentmewhen editing persisten environment variables .. is there something that i need to do OTHER than saving the ~./profile file?15:16
KrupteinRedRobot: err? I want it to be opened with the default browser15:17
delinquentmeor in /etc/environment ... just save it .. and they should be returned when you call  'printenv' right?15:17
rationalOgreKruptein: then xdg-open is the wrong thing, sorry. XDG open tries to figure out how to intelligently handle the file, not just open it in a browser.15:17
rblstalvinPH, i mean,  i can start the installer, it starts loading, drawing those little sequential dots, but it never gets to the actual installer gui15:17
jaej15:18
RedRobotKruptein: why?15:18
RedRobotKruptein: if it is a webapp, then run it trough wsgi15:18
jagracie w dark orbit15:18
* orko213 Waves at pratchett.freenode.net 401 orko213 PRIVMSG :No such nick/channel15:18
orko213Oh hai FiReSTaRT!15:18
* orko213 Waves at FiReSTaRT15:18
RedRobotand some wev server15:18
KrupteinRedRobot: because I'm developing a text-editor and I just want to give the option to open the file in the browser15:18
RedRobotweb*15:18
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orko213Oh hai debian2!15:18
* orko213 Waves at debian215:18
alvinPHrblst: is your ISO desktop or alternate? alternate has no GUI installer15:19
RedRobotKruptein: the your editor should check for $BROWSER and the default browser set in d/gconf and use that to open it15:19
Kruptein:f and what's the deal with the annoying wave bot15:19
rationalOgreKruptein: Then detect the users browser settings and set it in your application.15:19
KrupteinRedRobot: okay gconf it will be15:19
rblstalvinPH, it is not the alternate iso; but i don't really need a gui, i just want xubuntu to be installed :) do you think the alternate cd will help me?15:20
KrupteinrationalOgre: that's my question indeed :p15:20
alvinPHrblst: yes you must try it if you know how to install via terminal or in text mode. :D15:21
rationalOgreKruptein: So your question all along is, how do I detect the users browser settings on Ubuntu?15:21
RedRobotsadly there is no reliable way15:21
rblstalvinPH, i have never tried it, but i presume there must be some menu driven interface even in text mode15:22
rblstalvinPH, thanks for your answers15:23
alvinPHrblst: but I don't know if xubuntu has alternate ISO, yes alternate install has menu to choose from but has no gui, is it pentiumII15:23
Guest55616wassup15:23
rblstalvinPH, yes it is a PII machine15:24
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KleverHow do I get the size of mp3 in directory and all of its subdirectories?15:24
rubenjrwazzzupp!!15:24
alvinPHrblst: yes you must do alternate install because it is intended for older machines :D15:25
RedRobotKlever: find can do it, or if you only have mp3's in the dirs: du -sh whatever/15:26
KleverRedRobot: I've other files along with the mp3s, and just want to know the size the mp3s take15:27
RedRobotuse find then15:27
rblstalvinPH, just as xubuntu is intented for older machines ;) i'll download the alternate iso then and give it a try, thanks again15:28
RedRobotuse %s as the format and just sum them up15:29
KleverRedRobot: Something like: find images -name '*.gif'15:29
KleverDunno what the other part would be15:29
alvinPHrblst: yes right again, your welcome :D15:30
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Wicekjak kompilować C na linux?15:33
oCean!pl | Wicek15:34
ubottuWicek: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.15:34
RedRobotKlever: find . -iname "*.mp3" -printf "%s\n" | awk '{ SUM += $1 } END { print SUM/1024/1024 }'15:36
RedRobotor something along those lines15:36
vec__echo $(($(find mp3folder/ -name '*.mp3' -printf %k +) 0))15:36
dirtycookiehello people, i wanted to know how can i start tmux automatically when i open up a terminal15:36
vec__i wonder if my line would work :P15:38
vec__whats the maximum line length in ubuntu bash?15:38
vec__or the maximum argument length for that matter? i suppose its not an environment var15:39
parashello15:39
rog3236I would like to migrate from Ubuntu 11.04 to Xubuntu 11.04 anyone have a link for a "recent" instruction for doing so ? Most I see are quite dated15:41
ikoniarog3236: just install xubuntu-desktop15:41
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ikoniarog3236: that's it, the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu is just the desktop, nothing else15:41
dirtycookiehello people, i wanted to know how can i start tmux automatically when i open up a terminal15:41
Seven_Six_Twowhen I turn tor on and then off with vidalia, Evolution no longer connects to any servers...15:41
ikoniaSeven_Six_Two: possibly because it doesn't know how to route through tor15:42
Seven_Six_Twoikonia, it won't connect when tor is turned off15:42
ikoniaSeven_Six_Two: depends if the routing has been changed when you turn it on15:42
vec__ikonia: why dont we have gubuntu and uununtu?15:43
vec__uubuntu*15:43
vec__if the desktop is the only difference15:43
ikoniavec__: because canonical haven't made them as a seperate distro15:43
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carlotuxprova connessione datemi ok per ubuntu test15:48
DeadEndMy logs are filling up with a message "pwrdown, 0x6(BIT6)=f1" making them unreadable, how can I tell syslog or whatever it is, not to print that error15:49
cartes9df15:49
|Anthony|How can i make it so that only a specific user can do a virtual terminal switch? If i add DontVTSwitch to xorg.conf it will apply to all users, but i don't want that...15:50
taahahowto install package .rpm on ubuntu15:51
|Anthony|i don't want my 2 year old to be able to button mash and get into a terminal :/15:51
ikoniataaha: you don't15:51
Fuchstaaha: better look for a package suited for ubuntu, due to different configurations and dependencies15:51
ikoniataaha: rpm's are meant for redhat based dintrubutions15:51
Fuchstaaha: if you really really really have to, you can use alien on your own risk15:51
Guest68273heya folks, i went and played with compiz (compiz --replace) and suffered a crash after activating open gl. now there's no launcher, window decorations, etc. any idea how to get ubuntu/unity to return to normal?15:52
|Anthony|unity --replace15:52
|Anthony|maybe15:52
taahahowto use alien15:52
rog3236Noticed in Synaptic package manager that XUbuntu desktop is listed but also XUbuntu default settings should that package be installed as well as the desktop?15:53
th0rtaaha: man alien15:53
ikoniataaha: please don't15:53
ikoniataaha: what software do you want to install ?15:53
Guest68273Anthony: "james@Deos:~$ unity --replace The program 'unity' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install unity"15:53
|Anthony|lol15:53
MrMcCrazyHello Whenever I download a .deb file I cannot install it with ubuntu software centre  it gets so far and i have to reload it I have had this with google picasa, 2 versions of a printerdriver15:53
ikoniaMrMcCrazy: is the package designed for ubuntu ?15:53
MrMcCrazyNo15:54
MrMcCrazyikonia NO15:54
ikoniaMrMcCrazy: ok - so why are you tyring to install it on ubuntu ?15:54
DeadEndhe crazy15:54
liminalhello15:54
rationalOgredirtycookie: Do you want it to run tmux on every invocation of gnome-terminal? if so, may I ask what it is you are trying to accomplish?15:54
liminalim having trouble with my multi screen setup in unity15:54
liminaldoes anyone have a second monitor working on unity?15:54
MrMcCrazyikonia - how do I install them ?15:54
ikoniaMrMcCrazy: you don't, if it's not designed for ubuntu, then you shouldn't be trying to install it15:55
liminalhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178066715:55
Guest68273anthony, is the name of the launcher definitely unity? I've checked my software centre and there's no details of unity being removed :/15:55
MrMcCrazyikonia - why dont it work with .deb files is there some sort of .ubu file15:55
ikoniaMrMcCrazy: no, .debs are just a package format, however if the contents are not designed for ubuntu, you shouldn't be trying to use it15:56
bobo123i have created a simple shell script which contains only "whoami", and i set the setuid bit, the owner is root, and when i execute the script i get myUser, instead of root why?15:56
rationalOgreliminal: ATI or NVidia?15:56
rationalOgrebobo123: because you are running it as yourself. did you try sudo ./scriptname?15:57
ikoniabobo123: it's setuid, not sudo15:57
taahaI have a rpm package15:57
liminalrationalOgre, Intel15:57
liminalGMA 2400hd15:57
MrMcCrazyikonia but how do I get my printer working, there are only .deb + .rpm files for it. alien didnt work15:57
ikoniataaha: ytou've said that15:57
ikoniaMrMcCrazy: they won't work as they are not designed for your distro15:57
th0rikonia: it might be easier on the nerves to just let them nuke their ubuntu installations <smile>15:57
taahaI'll look for one form of Deb15:58
ikoniath0r: my consience won't allow it15:58
MrMcCrazyikonia is there a sort of generic printer driver to get my printer working15:58
ikoniaMrMcCrazy: they are not generic15:58
MrMcCrazyikonia ???15:58
ikoniaMrMcCrazy: what printer do you have15:58
MrMcCrazyikonia Canon MP14015:59
robin0800MrMcCrazy: you can use gdebi to install debs15:59
bobo123rationalOgre, i tried as sudo, i get that, but shouldn't i get also root, when i only do ./script?15:59
sscsscneed french channel please15:59
ikonia!fr | sscssc15:59
ubottusscssc: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:59
shududyhello everyone16:00
MrMcCrazyrobin0800 I will try16:00
liminalhas anyone got a second monitor working unity?16:00
liminalhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178066716:00
MrMcCrazyafk16:00
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shududyi have a problem, when i open web based apps like firefox, chromium or thunderbird after a few minutes my system suspends16:00
ikonialiminal: can you please stop posting that forum link - if you want help with a forum link, use the forum, if you want help on irc, talk to people16:00
shududyeven a reisub can not be helpful16:00
shududyid llke to know how can i learn the core of the problem16:01
iCHoZeN_hi im new here and i need a expert on Backtrack to install a driver! anyone?16:01
ikoniaiCHoZeN_: try #backtrack-linux channel16:02
ikoniaiCHoZeN_: this channel only supports ubuntu16:02
ikoniaMrMcCrazy: please ping me when you are back, I've just read the documentation for your printer and linux16:02
superfrogger79hey guys, sorry to interupt, but is this the right place for ubuntu server questions?16:03
ikoniasuperfrogger79: sure you can ask, also #ubuntu-server16:03
liminal_iCHoZeN_, i think your in the wrong room16:03
liminal_#backtrack16:03
ikonialiminal: no,16:03
shududyi have a problem, when i open web based apps like firefox, chromium or thunderbird after a few minutes my system suspends16:03
ikonialiminal: it's #backtrack-linux and he's already been told as you can see16:03
superfrogger79ikonia:thanks ill ask there first16:04
studenthi all16:04
jimmieHello.16:04
shududyi have a problem, when i open web based apps like firefox, chromium or thunderbird after a few minutes my system freezes16:04
rationalOgrebobo123: Ubuntu ignores the setuid bit for shell scripts, most systems do. You have to run the script using super ./script16:04
studenthow can i boot the ubuntu installer with grub 0.97?16:05
rationalOgrebobo123: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/992016:05
vec__shududy: laptop=16:05
vec__?16:05
shududyvec__: asus eeepc16:05
shududyvec__: 1015 pem16:05
vec__sounds like a ahcp issue16:05
ikoniasuperfrogger79: you don't, you boot the install from a cd16:05
vec__or somesuch16:05
OldFarterAfter i upgrade to 11.4 i've had the kernel spew its guts on my screen about twice a day,  any clue why?16:05
vec__a powermanagement issue perhaps16:05
shududyvec__: i m sorry it does not suspend, it freezes16:05
ikoniaOldFarter: depends if you can give more information than "spew it's guts" - how do you expect people to help with that level of detail16:06
ikoniashududy: you don't, you boot the install from a cd16:06
vec__!pm | jimmie16:06
ubottujimmie: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.16:06
shududyikonia: i have a problem, when i open web based apps like firefox, chromium or thunderbird after a few minutes my system freezes16:06
shududyikonia: how can i make a troubleshoot16:06
ikoniashududy: yes, you've said 4 or 5 times16:06
ikoniashududy: look at the logs for starters ?16:07
shududyikonia: you mean on the forums?16:07
robin0800shududy: try classic if your on 11.0416:07
ikoniashududy: no, means on your machine, look at the log files16:07
Guest68273random question, i'm busy trying to get my desktop back to normal and was wondering if unity is the name of the launcher shipped with 11.04?16:08
shududyikonia: /var/log/messages ?16:08
OldFarterWell i'm going about just about any daily stuffs like checking mail, surfing web.... and then all of a sudden.... black screen, text console and a bunch of kernel state info rolling by at the speed of light16:08
ikoniashududy: that's a good start16:08
shududyrobin0800: do you think it may be helpful16:08
ikoniaOldFarter: ok, so the last few lines you see on screen would be useful16:09
escottGuest68273, yes unity is the 11.04 desktop16:09
BlouBlouUnity it's just the shell16:10
abysHi there, I'm looking for some help to re-add and entry to boot on my windows 7 after installing natty. It doesn't detect it automatically on grub..16:10
shududyikonia: how can i see if there was sth bad on the previous login16:10
OldFarterikonia, how do you suggest i save those?   Take photo of my screen perhaps?16:10
robin0800shududy: it uses metacity not compiz so mmight help16:10
Guest68273thank you escott, any idea why it might've uninstalled? i installed compiz today and regret it :(16:10
ikoniaOldFarter: make a note of the last few lines and let us know,16:11
shududyrobin0800: are you sure that ubuntu classic will use metacity, not compiz?16:11
escottGuest68273, compiz is used by unity. more likely you enabled something with compiz that broke unity/made unity think you wanted something else16:11
robin0800shududy: yes16:11
shududyok16:11
escottGuest68273, I would nuke ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz and ~/.config/compiz-116:11
escott!nickname | Guest6827316:12
Guest68273escott, thanks for your responses :) i'm guessing nuke isn't a valid command? lol16:13
rationalOgreOldFarter: Those lines should be logged in dmesg16:13
escottGuest68273, i mean rm -rf. if you need to be on the channel longer can you please /nick somename_that_doesnt_begin_with_guest16:13
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liminal_someone must use ubuntu 11.04 with a second screen16:16
ikonialiminal_: many people do, but there are also a lot of known problems16:16
liminal_a completely black screen is a fair problem alright.16:17
rationalOgreliminal_: Did you google the issue at all?16:17
abysHow can I add my windows 7 partition in  the grub list? It's missing since I install natty :)16:17
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dr_willisabys,   dirty way is to add it to your /etc/grub.d/40_custome file. but  just running sudo update-grub SHOULD find and add it automatically16:18
abysdr_willis:  the update does not :/16:18
dr_willisabys,  you may want to check the forums or the askubuntu.com site. they may have some tricks for making grub2 see the windows install. Its supposed to be seeing it.. but ive seen cases where it ignroes it for some reasion16:18
dr_willissome sort of bug in the os-prober tool. :(16:19
leftisti inadvertantly installed 32bit instead of 64bit on a system. is there any way to upgrade? or am i just being ridiculous and just redo it properly?16:19
JamesGSescott, I ran the commands you suggested. Should I now try and reinstall unity?16:19
oCeanleftist: no way to upgrade16:19
abysdr_willis:  I was hoping not to get my hands dirty :p16:19
jimmieLeftist you need to boot the disk and redo it16:19
escottJamesGS, just logout and then login16:19
leftistyeah i know...i goofed :D16:19
leftistthanks16:19
IdleOneliminal_: alt-F2 and type Displays in the box. see if there is a check box for Extend Display16:20
liminal_rationalOgre, yeah my post in the ubuntu forum is the top result for it16:20
liminal_http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+multidesktop+background+not+extending#hl=en&pwst=1&sa=X&ei=-Nj0TZq_OMe6hAfS_dXaBg&ved=0CBgQvwUoAQ&q=ubuntu+multi+desktop+background+not+extending&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=93ecf0cfc9ca6151&biw=1360&bih=68216:20
dr_willisabys,  edit that file. add a entry that will load windows. :) but figureing out what to add can be the issue.16:20
abysdr_willis:  yep, that's kind of what I'm looking for ^_^16:21
dr_willisabys,  check someone elses grub.cfg to see what the tools normally ad. and cut/paste it16:21
liminal_Idleone see my post, the second screen is detected16:21
liminal_http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+multidesktop+background+not+extending#hl=en&pwst=1&sa=X&ei=-Nj0TZq_OMe6hAfS_dXaBg&ved=0CBgQvwUoAQ&q=ubuntu+multi+desktop+background+not+extending&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=93ecf0cfc9ca6151&biw=1360&bih=68216:21
liminal_sorry16:21
FloodBot1liminal_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:21
dr_willisand change it as needed16:22
abysdr_willis:  menuentry "Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda3)" {16:22
abysinsmod ntfs16:22
abysset root=(hd0,2)16:22
abyssearch --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 861EF8FB1EF8E55916:22
abyschainloader +116:22
abys}16:22
FloodBot1abys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:22
liminal_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178066716:22
mysticsoulDoes anyone know why I cannot enable Xinerama on an ATI Radeon HD 545016:22
mysticsoul?16:22
gbase.wc16:22
abysdr_willis:  what I've got for know,  but not sure avout search and root16:22
dr_willis!uuid16:23
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)16:23
dr_willischange the uuid@ to match your uuid16:23
dr_willisand  hd0,2 = the first hd. 2nd partition16:23
abysdr_willis:  good stuff, that's help a lot ;)16:24
dirtycookiehello people, i wanted to know how can i start tmux automatically when i open up a terminal16:24
mysticsoulDoes anyone know why I cannot enable Xinerama on an ATI Radeon HD 545016:24
escottdirtycookie, add it to your .bashrc16:24
dirtycookieescott: what is the exact line? tmux& ?16:24
abysdr_willis:  do I have to do an update to add the entry?16:24
escottdirtycookie, sure16:25
mysticsoulHey people, does anyone know why I cannot enable Xinerama on an ATI Radeon HD 5450?16:25
dirtycookieescott: ok16:25
rationalOgreliminal_: So, can you specifically set a wallpaper to that screen?16:25
rationalOgreliminal_: And does it work as expected? (i.e. drag windows to it and such)16:26
mysticsoulXinerama comes up greyed out in the ATI control panel. How can I enable it?16:26
liminal_mysticsoul, do you have a second monitor attached?16:26
rlyWhen I do modprobe snd-emu10k1 I see no output in dmesg. In lspci this soundcard is listed. In the pulse audio preferences the card is not listed. How can I get it to be listed?16:27
dr_willisabys,  to generate a new grub.cfg you always have to run update-grub16:27
liminal_rationalOgre, as you can see from the screen shot.. the second monitor is completely black,, apart from the taskbar and mouse pointer16:27
mysticsoulliminal_: Yes I do16:27
escottrly, verify it loaded with lsmod16:27
Benkinoobyhi, i want to make youtube playlists without creting a youtube account. i noticed that some multimedia player (totem, vlc) can play youtube videos, so i plan to make playlists, that let the player use youtube urls. unforunatly, i the vlc version is too old (1.1 or higher required) and i can manage to use totem. apart from upgrading vlc, any ideas? could also be something total different16:27
Benkinoobyi use ubuntu 10.0416:28
rationalOgreliminal_: Does it work as expected, though?16:28
dirtycookieescott: well i get the message "not a terminal"16:28
escottdirtycookie, what is tmux16:28
rationalOgreliminal_: I realize the wallpaper is not going across, but can you put windows in it and such?16:28
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mysticsoulliminal_: I've got both monitors attached and functional but for some reason I go into ATI Control panel and it is greyed out. One monitor is on the VGA port and another on the DVI. Both 20" Dell Screens.16:28
abysdr_willis: is it supposed to show up when I do the update? or I'll see it after reboot?16:28
dirtycookieit is a terminal multiplexer like screen16:28
rationalOgredirtycookie: why would you want to start tmux every time you open a gnome-terminal?16:28
rlyescott: it lists it (and some related ones)16:29
dirtycookieso that i have the option to create multiple terminals in one window16:29
mysticsoulliminal_: Xinerama is greyed out and it does not tell me why.16:29
MiScHi3fHello, I recently upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 with a fresh install. When the system boots normally I get a purple screen and it stays like that indefinitely. However, if I hard power down and retry, grub brings up the menu due to not shutting down correctly and allows me to boot after I choose normal mode. How do I get this resolved?16:29
liminal_rationalOgre,  no.. nothing goes across16:29
abyshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/625238/16:29
liminal_well it does move across,, but just goes into the inky blackness16:29
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escottrly, i would think you are supposed to start tmux instead of bash. ie change your graphical terminal to start tmux as your shell not bash16:30
JamesGSescott, unity now claims that i do not have the hardware to run it :( it's put me onto Ubuntu Classic16:30
Roo79I have Natty and I have uninstalled evolution and now I want to set desktop webmail as my default what is the terminal command to do it please? as the option in preferred applications is now greyed out16:30
escottJamesGS, do you know what kind of graphics card you have? if not run lspci in a terminal and it should say16:31
rlyescott: what?16:31
liminal_mysticsoul, are you mirroring your desktop?16:32
mysticsoulliminal_: no I'm not.16:32
liminal_try it.16:32
JamesGSescott, "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series" - it worked fine before today16:32
yanghaohaha16:33
yanghaohello16:33
yanghaosomeone here?16:33
mysticsoulliminal: you mean mirror desktop and then go into control panel to check if Xinerama is enabled?16:33
oCeanhello yanghao, do you have a support question?16:33
escottrly, open the terminal window right click find profile -> profile preferences -> Title and Command then click "run a custom command instead of my shell" and put in tmux. i think that is what you need to do16:33
yanghaoyes16:33
MiScHi3fHello, I recently upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 with a fresh install. When the system boots normally I get a purple screen and it stays like that indefinitely. However, if I hard power down and retry, grub brings up the menu due to not shutting down correctly and allows me to boot after I choose normal mode. How do I get this resolved?16:33
yanghaoits my first time to here16:34
escott!paste | JamesGS run glxinfo and send it to us16:34
ubottuJamesGS run glxinfo and send it to us: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:34
yanghaoplease help me16:34
oCeanyanghao: describe your issue (detailed, but in single line) in the channel16:34
liminal_mysticsoul, yes16:34
mysticsoulMiScHi3f: Try editing the entry from the GRUB menu and remove the word "quiet" from it to know exactly where it is failing.16:34
dr_willisMiScHi3f,  try the nomodeset option, and/or disable the plymouth  by editing the grub line  changeing the 'quiet splash' to be 'noquiet nosplash' or 'nomodeset'  (or all 3)16:34
mysticsoulthanks liminal_ will try that now.16:34
yanghaowho are you?16:34
dr_willisI think when it sees noquiet its the same as just removeing quiet. :)16:35
oCeanyanghao: this is ubuntu technical support16:35
MiScHi3fmysticsoul: My apologies for my ignorance. Where do I edit the grub menu?16:35
rlyescott: you are talking to the WRONG person.16:35
rlyescott: I had an audio issue, remember?16:35
dr_willisMiScHi3f,  or go extreme and just replace  both quiet splash, and use 'text' that should get you to a console. where you can  see if you can get X going. install whatever drivers and so forth16:35
Benkinoobyhi, i want to watch youtube video with (any) media player. i use ubuntu 10.04. totem, after folowing a how-to resutls in a reported (but not solved bug) "GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.". vlc would need to be at version 1.1 or highr to do the magic. some1 know how to fix the totem thing?16:36
escottrly, sorry i mean dirtycookie got confused16:36
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mysticsoulliminal_: I tried it but does not seem to enable it. I'm going into the ATI control panel in admin mode (typing in the admin password).16:36
yanghaowho can help me ?16:36
MiScHi3fdr_willis: where do I edit out -quite? I am still rather green to linux.16:37
oCeanyanghao: you still have not asked your question16:37
goddaI have an Intel Centrino wireless card in my new laptop. Can't get wireless working. Any suggestions to try, or links?16:37
Roo79I have Natty and I have uninstalled evolution and now I want to set desktop webmail as my default what is the terminal command to do it please? as the option in preferred applications is now greyed out16:37
dr_willisMiScHi3f,  when you boot up. you hit the shift key if you Dont see the grub menu.. or else you hit some Other key to 'edit' the grub menu once you do see the grub menu (tab key i think?)16:38
blackroot@godda whats the specification ?16:38
escottrly, so the emu10k1 is not listed under other outputs in the sound preferences16:38
JamesGSescott, glxinfo only outputs "name of display: :0.0"16:38
yanghaomy audacious is not sound16:38
rlyescott: that is what I said.16:38
rlyescott: in the lspci it is now also not listed, btw.16:38
mysticsoulMiScHi3f: when you see the GRUB boot menu just select the entry you wish to edit and press E to edit it. then you can change the line you're editing and hit enter to boot using those new options.16:38
rlyescott: when I put in my audio cable, it crashed the kernel, btw.16:39
MiScHi3fdr_willis and mysticsoul, Thank you for your time and I will give that a try16:39
escottrly, the not being listed in lspci is probably the source of the problems. lspci should list every device16:39
goddablackroot wireless-n16:39
rlyescott: no, it is not the source.16:39
rlyescott: since before it did list it.16:39
mysticsoulMiScHi3f: See if that works. If it successfully boots your machine then you can permanently change it in the GRUB config files.16:39
rlyescott: the problem is likely that the PCI device wants to have some particular hardcoded IRQ.16:40
blackroot@godda...i meant the model no ? or rather tell me your laptop model...shall check it up16:40
rlyescott: and likely new kernels do things differently.16:40
rlyescott: so, it stopped working.16:40
escottrly, but you plugged in the cord and the kernel oops, and on the reboot its not there. sounds like the device didnt come back from the soft-reset. try a hard/cold reboot (complete shutdown wait 5 seconds etc)16:40
rlyescott: _that_ is the problem.16:40
mysticsoulliminal_: any ideas why Xinerama is still greyed out?16:40
goddablackroot HP dm4-1160us16:40
rlyescott: I can try that. BRB.16:40
liminal_mysticsoul, i think you might have to play with your xorg settings16:41
liminal_http://askubuntu.com/questions/14780/how-can-i-disable-xinerama16:41
liminal_CAREFULL this is dangerous16:41
mysticsoulliminal_: thanks for that. I'll have a play with it and see if I can enable it.16:41
blackrootgodda which version of ubuntu are you using ?16:42
escottJamesGS, so you don't have glx. for ati you have two options. one is the amd driver the other is something called radeonhd. the amd driver has better performance and the radeonhd is open source if you want to open up the hardware drivers you might be able to install one of them16:42
mark007hola16:42
mark007una consulta16:42
Roo79I have Natty and I have uninstalled evolution and now I want to set desktop webmail as my default what is the terminal command to do it please? as the option in preferred applications is now greyed out16:42
mark007hey!!! can speak spanish??16:43
oCean!es | mark00716:43
ubottumark007: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.16:43
mark007ok16:44
philinuxBenkinooby: Can you play youtube flash videos on their site?16:44
PlughI just completed the update to 11.04 from 9.10 on my desktop. I have 10 issues still to deal with (so far). One of the first ones is figuring out where I save my session snapshot. I'm running Gnome 2 for my desktop. I can't find the menu entry for saving a session.16:44
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escottPlugh, gnome-session-properties should have a checkbox16:45
olskolirchey how do I get this?  I'm on Kubuntu and don't have one but this one I want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In0-_VF5Pe816:45
escottPlugh, if it doesn't i know it can be found in gconf-editor16:45
dr_willisActually you are running the 'ubuntu-classic' which i thought is not quite the same as gnome-216:45
rationalOgreliminal_: Google isn't showing much and I'm not that good with debugging dual monitor setups. Sorry. :(16:45
dr_willisbbl16:45
Benkinoobyphilinux, youtube website works. i want to play the videos in an externam player so that i can make youtube playlists but i don't want to use a youtube account for this. all i want is to tell a player "play this link, then paly this link,..."16:46
rationalOgreliminal_: have you tried Ubuntu Classic mode to see if it works with vanilla Gnome?16:46
Benkinoobyphilinux, i allready tried some how.tos but the didn't work... neither for mpalyer nor for totem16:46
rlyescott: it is not listed after a cold boot.16:46
JamesGSescott, are both the amd and radeonhd drivers available in the software-center?16:47
rationalOgreliminal_: could be a problem with the driver, compiz, unity... It's hard to tell.16:47
flnbakI've had a lot of problems with ubuntu 11.0416:47
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flnbakmy whole system froze on one occasion16:47
liminal_rationalOgre,  ill give it a go now16:48
flnbakanybody experiencing problems with 11.04?16:48
matthias_any ideas where I can reset some changes done with 'export' =16:48
escottJamesGS, yes you should be able to find the amd in additional drivers. the radeonhd is in software center/synaptic16:48
lol123ubuntu is an old african word,it means " I am retarded,I don't know how to netinstall debian"16:48
oCeanlol123: please stop such comments16:49
JamesGSescott, apparently ATI Radeon X.Org Driver is already installed16:49
rationalOgreahh distro elitists...16:49
nithin935hey all u experts, recommend a good project for my computer paper16:49
escottrly, i would check your bios to see if you can do something to give the device an assigned irq. if lspci isn't showing it then its not being initialized correctly16:49
goddablackroot - sorry, I lost my connection for a minute. Did you have an answer for me?16:49
rlyescott: I will put it in another slot first and then try that.16:50
escottJamesGS, thats probably radeonhd. its possible you have two things installed and they are conflicting. cant you !paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log16:50
Plughdr_willis: you may be right. I installed gnome-desktop-environment and at login time I select Ubuntu Classic.16:50
rationalOgreescott: sudo lshw -C video not showing it?16:51
Plughescott: The session properties dialog box does not have a checkbox anywhere for saving session.16:51
oCeanolskolirc: the grub-customizer is available from PPA, but mind you, it's unsupported 3rd party software16:51
escottPlugh, then open gconf-editor and go to apps gnome-session options and click auto save session16:52
Plughescott: ok, found it. That will snapshot my session when I log out then I can log back in again and uncheck it so it won't change my session again later?16:53
rlyescott: It is now listed in lspci, but the audio cable is not put in.16:54
rlyescott: I am pretty sure that it will crash once I do that, though.16:54
JamesGSescott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/625252/16:54
lekefly_Can someone point me in a direction so i can get terminal output to a webpage?16:54
escottPlugh, if you just want it one time use gnome-session-save16:54
oCeanlekefly_: how is that an ubuntu issue?16:55
MagicJI have installed from a known good thumb drive on a machine that runs perfectly from the live CD on that thumb drive and RAN Windoze XP well.  The thing will not boot, it is almost as though the boot record did not get writte, I do note that during install it says all is good but after setting up users instead of the useual, "you need to reboot" it goes to the live CD sign on menu - Help please16:55
lekefly_oCean: What says it has to be a issue?16:55
rationalOgrelekefly_: like are you trying to run a terminal using a cgi script and then send the output back via http?16:55
rlyWhat does this format mean? pci@0000:06:01.016:56
rlyI.e., what is 6 and 1?16:56
lekefly_rationalOgre: Hmm im trying to get the text from the terminal window to a http page and updated quite often16:56
rationalOgreMagicJ: Did you install into the thumb drive or onto your hard drive.16:56
rlyescott: it is also listed in the sound preferences now.16:57
rlyescott: I will just put in the audio cable, and observe the crashing...16:57
rationalOgrelekefly_: beyond the scope of this channel. I honestly don't know what channel you would try in. Perhaps the channel for your webserver?16:57
rationalOgreex #apache16:57
MagicJrationalOgre: from the thumb to the hard, and I know the thumb is good because I have used it to install a number of other machines16:57
goddaAny suggestions for an Intel Centrino Wireless-N that can scan/find signals but can't connect? It doesn't even look like it's trying to make a connection.16:57
Plughescott: Ah, ok. Thanks.16:57
lekefly_rationalOgre: lol no? :p16:58
MagicJrationalOgre: also, when I look at the hard drive partitions all looks good, this is why I say I suspect it is the boot record16:58
rationalOgreMagicJ: Ok. Boot to the liveusb again and mount the drive partitions somewhere, then poke around /var/log and see if you can figure out what is going wrong.16:59
escottJamesGS, that shows you using fglrx which are the amd drivers. i don't know why you wouldn't have glx. I would go into additional drivers and try to reinstall/reenable the amd drivers16:59
rationalOgreMagicJ: things to check, /var/log/boot.log, /var/log/dmesg16:59
rationalOgreMagicJ: /var/log/boot17:00
rlyescott: ok, it appears to work now to my great amazement.17:00
escottrly, the different slot probably has a different irq17:00
rationalOgreMagicJ: Is it a dual-boot setup? Or strictly ubuntu?17:00
rlyescott: yes, but IMHO, I should be able to put it into any slot.17:01
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JamesGSescott, i'd be grateful for step-by-step instructions on how to re-install them - having difficulty finding out17:01
ermiyashi17:02
PlughHm... session save seems to have helped a little (I think). Volume control icon was in the corner when I logged in after a log out. Skype, pidgin, and my terminal window didn't start up automatically.17:02
rlyescott: is it even still possible to assign IRQs to different PCI devices?17:02
pragmaticenigmaIRQs are for legacy systems, most modern OSs do not use them that are plug'n'play capable17:02
escottrly, most bioses will let you17:02
rationalOgrerly: Your bios has to have the ability. many do, some don't.17:02
rlypragmaticenigma: dmesg | grep IRC # you where saying?17:02
rlypragmaticenigma: dmesg | grep IRQ # you where saying?17:02
oCeanlekefly_: (was afk for a bit) primary focus of this channel is providing help with technical ubuntu issues (such as how to fix this or that) In general there are better suited channels for questions such as yours. Maybe #bash or ##httpd17:03
pragmaticenigmaI didn't say they weren't there17:03
escottJamesGS, try sudo apt-get remove fglrx; sudo apt-get install fglrx17:03
rlypragmaticenigma: ok, but they just don't have to be configured often anymore.17:03
pragmaticenigmaright, rly, they are there for legacy programs and hardware that still need them... most everything else is addressed through the kernel's assigned hardware addresses17:04
saju_mI an using ubuntu 11 and audio was working till now,  but after restart audio not working. Hint : Audio drive not showing under  sound preferencs ---> Hardware17:04
saju_mHow fix it17:05
pragmaticenigmasaju_m: what did you do prior to restarting the machine? Did you perform an Update, install new software, change any settings?17:06
JamesGSescott, thank you! now I logout and try again?17:06
rationalOgresaju_m: does the sound card still show up when running "sudo lshw -C sound" (without the quotes)17:06
wcchandlerIn the classic menu of Ubuntu/gnome where is terminal?  Applications > then what?  Trying to get my mum to open a terminal but I'm running unity17:07
ermiyasmy nokia 75 didnt work as a media transfer on my  linux ubuntu17:08
rationalOgrewcchandler: Applications > Accessories > Terminal17:08
JamesGSwcchandler: Applicaions > Accessories > Terminal17:08
escottJamesGS, yeah. hopefully it works17:08
pragmaticenigmawcchandler: it's usually under the accessories menu17:08
italichi. i installed a package from source with a patch, but when i want to apt-get upgrade, it wants to get the one i dont want, how do i get around this?17:09
wcchandlerrational0gre,JamesGS,pragmaticenigma: thanks!17:09
pragmaticenigmaitalic: There should be an option in the Synaptic Package manager to ignore package updates for the application that you don't want the system to update17:09
|Anthony|How can i make it so that only a specific user can do a virtual terminal switch? If i add DontVTSwitch to xorg.conf it will apply to all users, but i don't want that...17:09
|Anthony|i don't want my 2 year old to be able to button mash and get into a terminal :/17:10
pragmaticenigmaitalic: Question: Did you have the package installed prior to installing from source?17:10
saju_mHere is the output of lshw -C sound http://dpaste.com/55339917:10
italicpragmaticenigma: i did, then purged it before installing the new one17:10
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: As long as you don't leave yourself logged in via the terminal you shouldn't have anything to worry about17:10
saju_mi did update17:11
|Anthony|yeah...17:11
zhanggdfirst time here..17:11
JamesGSescott, it's defaulting to classic mode despite selecting ubuntu :/17:11
pragmaticenigmasaju_m: It would be likely that your update broke something... what version of Ubuntu are you running?17:11
zhanggdhullo.~17:11
saju_mubuntu 1117:12
oCeanhi zhanggd, how can this channel help you?17:12
|Anthony|i'm setting up a box for a 2 year old... things are inevitably going to get borked17:12
saju_mLinux saju-laptop 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:12
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: I know kids and computers don't mix, but chances of button mashing CTRL+ALT+Fn is not likely with their little hands17:12
|Anthony|you would be surprised17:12
zhanggdi'm not sure. i'm just trying to use this. I guess I may learn sth here later~17:12
|Anthony|lol17:12
oCeanzhanggd: you're quite welcome to idle here, and you are welcome to use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat17:13
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: You could try disabling a few of the VTs, smaller target that way17:13
|Anthony|hmm17:13
saju_mi also tried apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)17:13
escottJamesGS, im not sure why your glx isn't working. it seems like X is using fglrx, perhaps check what ls -l /usr/lib/libGL* says17:13
|Anthony|i thought there might be a session option somewhere17:14
zhanggdoCean: thx for your help~17:14
pragmaticenigmasaju_m: 64bit Linux and Audio drivers are not always well supported... how much ram are you using?17:14
saju_m4gb17:14
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: I know there must be a tool out there some where17:14
saju_mit was working17:15
Angel2006hi all :)17:15
JamesGSescott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/625269/17:15
pragmaticenigmasaju_m: You should just install the 32bit version if all your going to use is 4gigs of ram... 32 bit mode can still address all the RAM and you will not see a performance hit17:15
|Anthony|i was thinking it should be a line in Xsession or maybe an Xorg.conf for each user17:15
pragmaticenigmaI'm trying to find out how the hot keys are set17:16
cordorwget doesn't seem to parse img tag, is it because of character encoding?17:16
pragmaticenigmaI can easily find the settings to remove the extra VTs, but not so much luck in disabling the Hotkeys |Anthony|17:16
|Anthony|:/17:16
pragmaticenigmacordor: wget has to be told to download the images17:16
saju_mcan i upgrade to 32 bit ubuntu from 64bit17:16
escottJamesGS, I'm afraid I just don't know what to look for. I think the problem may be that your libgl is the mesa libgl but your driver is the amd fglrx, but I don't know how to fix it17:16
pragmaticenigmasaju_m: No17:17
|Anthony|a way to have a per user xorg.conf would be ideal17:17
saju_mthen how go to 32bit17:17
cordorpragmaticenigma: i have -r -l 2 -A ...,jpg,gif,png17:18
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: Xorg is trying to move away from having the file to begin with17:18
rationalOgresaju_m: When you rebooted and found audio gone, did you try rebooting again/ just to see if it was a glitch somewhere?17:18
|Anthony|i know17:18
|Anthony|and am annoyed17:18
|Anthony|>.<17:18
JamesGSescott, don't worry about it :) I appreciate you trying to help! definitely the last time i muck about with compiz though, lol17:18
saju_myes17:18
|Anthony|Xorg and consolekit are both moving away from a linux staple... handling multiple concurrent sessions17:19
eb3ha4elhow do i check if my processor is i686 or not17:19
|Anthony|what cpu do you have?17:20
dr_willis!info hwinfo17:20
ubottuhwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 16.0-2 (natty), package size 45 kB, installed size 112 kB17:20
oCeaneb3ha4el: grep lm </proc/cpuinfo17:20
rationalOgresaju_m: try lsmod | grep -i HDA17:20
eb3ha4elIt's Atom, thanks all17:20
nothingspecial|Anthony|: If she/he is two, set her account to login automatically in the gui, then give her a incredibly long, complex, unmashable password..... so that even if she can access the terminals she will not be able to log on17:20
|Anthony|lol nothingspecial17:21
|Anthony|she can work an iphone17:21
|Anthony|she'll be 1337 by the time she's 517:21
MagicJrationalOgre: sorry for the delay there - some weird connection problem - it should be Ubuntu only - that's what I told it during install17:21
saju_mlsmod | grep -i HDA, dot showing anything17:22
saju_mlsmod | grep -i HDA, dont showing anything17:22
dr_willisthere are 64 and 32bit atom cpus these days i belive17:22
rationalOgresaju_m: Ok. then try sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel17:22
pragmaticenigmaif she'll be l33t by 5 then she'll already have probably rewritten her own OS! |Anthony|17:22
nothingspecial|Anthony|: lol, I've been annoying my kids by being more capable with computers than them for years.17:22
rationalOgreMagicJ: Ok. Multiple hard drives on the system? Or just the one?17:23
|Anthony|well that's the key really... to stay a few steps ahead of the kids17:23
dr_willisToddlerOS17:23
|Anthony|haah17:23
nothingspecial|Anthony|: I like sshing into their boxes and telling them to go to bed with espeak before logging them out.17:23
dr_willisTrashbin = Diaper Pail :P17:23
|Anthony|love it17:23
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: is she playing on the family computer or one of her own?17:24
saju_mmodprobe snd_hda_intel, dont showing anything17:24
JamesGS_escott, you won't believe it but it now works!! I did a unity --reset and it froze my computer so forced a reboot and now it works!!17:24
|Anthony|atm on the htpc in the living room... but i've grown tired of fighting for the right to reclaim it so i'm putting together one of her own17:24
JamesGS_bizarre17:24
escottJamesGS, I think on logout it may not have been restarting X17:25
escottJamesGS, so it didnt catch the new driver17:25
saju_mvim /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf http://dpaste.com/553402/17:25
rationalOgresaju_m: now run sudo lshw -C sound | grep -i configuration17:25
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: An idea would be just to build the system up, then do a weekly or monthly drive image backup of it... then if she borks it you just retrieve the last image17:25
JamesGS_escott, and there was me hoping it was magic ;)17:25
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: she is only two, she isn't going to notice missings files just yet17:25
MagicJrationalOgre: just one drive17:26
JamesGS_thank you escott :) works a charm!17:26
|Anthony|i plan on having to do disk images... that's why i put a small 40 GB drive in there17:26
saju_mlshw -C sound | grep -i configuration  ----> configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=017:26
rationalOgresaju_m: Try sound now17:26
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saju_mok working , but low volume17:28
sdihallo alle17:28
|Anthony|i've locked down most applications i don't want her to stumble on to... and disabled admin features... the only things left to do are get rid of VT switching for her account and a way to limit her filemanager so that she can only see what's in her $HOME directory17:28
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: I learned the hard way growing up about messing up something on a computer (C:\format /s/c on an IBM PS2) Dad wasn't too proud but I had to learn how to reinstall DOS 2.017:28
|Anthony|hahaha17:28
sdihab mal eine frage zwecks public_html17:28
nothingspecial|Anthony|: Get a keyboard that's easy to take apart and clean --- sticky fingers, jam, crumbs etc -- nightmare17:28
oCean!de | sdi17:29
ubottusdi: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.17:29
saju_mi put full volume, but sound is low17:29
sdiah ok17:29
rationalOgresaju_m: So sound is working again, just difficult to hear?17:29
pragmaticenigmasaju_m: check the PCM volume level17:29
saju_myes17:29
|Anthony|can't forget about the optical mouse too... need a ball mouse or else she'll end up staring at the optical beam17:30
saju_mPCm volume is fumm in alsamixer17:30
saju_mPCm volume is full in alsamixer17:30
beef-supremehow can i set a global font size?17:31
beef-supremei have a big ass monitor and the font size is too small17:31
pragmaticenigma|Anthony|: Find her a track ball instead ... easier for small hands and easier to clean17:31
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administrator_h17:32
pragmaticenigmabeef-supreme: Under System -> Preferences -> Appearance17:32
administrator_hi17:32
pragmaticenigmabeef-supreme: select the font tab17:32
rationalOgresaju_m: You'll need to figure out why snd_hda_intel is not loading. Perhaps it's being blacklisted.17:33
escottbeef-supreme, appearance -> fonts -> details17:33
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jo-erlendI could use some help setting up Anyremote with support for bluetooth. Is anyone has experience?17:34
beef-supremeescott, i removed gnome-session and everything related to it17:35
beef-supremepragmaticenigma,  i removed gnome-session and everything related to it17:35
farihai17:36
beef-supremecan any of you tell me what the official app name is so i can install it?17:36
pragmaticenigmaWhat are you using as a window manager beef-supreme ?17:36
escottbeef-supreme, gnome-appearance-properties17:36
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, openbox17:36
beef-supremeescott, can't i do it without gnome-appearance ?17:36
escottbeef-supreme, but without gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon I don't know how anything works17:36
dr_willisgnome/gtk apps would use differnt settings then what openbox window manager would be using17:37
escottbeef-supreme, you may be forced to hand edit .gtkrc17:37
pragmaticenigmaescott: He isn't using gnome as his window manager, installing that program will not help him17:37
TimothyAhow do i create a partition, or resize an existing partition?17:38
edbianTimothyA: Using gparted17:38
BlouBlouTimothyA: Try gparted17:38
pragmaticenigmabeef-supreme: I use XFCE and have noticed that I have to change the font size in each program manually that I am using... it a PITA but I like it better than a cetral config file that gets corrupted17:38
BlouBlou!gparted | TimothyA17:38
ubottuTimothyA: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php17:38
TimothyAcommandline17:38
escottTimothyA, parted17:39
edbianTimothyA: fdisk   (but that's harder)17:39
pragmaticenigmabeef-supreme: I am guessing that you will need to just set each one up individually... you could try going under your graphics settings and lowering/raising the DPI for your monitor settings17:39
TimothyAwasn't there an ncurses partitioning tool?17:39
ThraspicHey guys, I'm looking to get WICD to NOT scan for AP's automatically, I only want it to scan when I hit "Refresh".  Any ideas?17:39
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, but there has to be some sort of global file, i noticed puppy linux has a lower global font size than ubuntu17:39
dr_willisparted or fdisk TimothyA17:39
rickylolzHey guys! I love using Ubuntu! ^^17:39
beef-supremeso that Sans 12 looks much bigger in ubuntu than puppy17:40
beef-supremebut this isn't about puppy17:40
beef-supremethis is about the new monitor17:40
Chotazwhat can I use in ubuntu to check sfv file integrity?17:40
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, i think it's the dpi i'm looking for17:40
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, right?17:40
pragmaticenigmabeef-supreme: very likely17:40
IdleOneChotaz: cksfv17:40
escottbeef-supreme, i think you can specify dpi in your xorg.conf17:41
beef-supremepragmaticenigmam escott , i'll check the nvidia-settings file17:41
pragmaticenigmaescott: Most new installations of Ubuntu do not use the xorg.conf file17:41
pragmaticenigmabeef-supreme: sounds supurb!17:41
TimothyAdr_willis: parted gives me warnings about how I should not use it17:41
dr_willisTimothyA,  do you know how to use it? if you mess up. you can delete your system.17:42
dr_willisI tend to use fdisk, or gparted.17:42
wadEvery once in a while, all my applications lose the borders around their windows. Is this normal?17:42
TimothyAno, I don't know how to use it17:42
escottpragmaticenigma, most new installations don't have people removing gnome-session17:42
wadNo more title bars, buttons, places to resize....17:43
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, i can't find any dpi setting in nvidia-settings17:43
dr_willisTimothyA,  and what are you trying to acomplish exactly?17:43
pragmaticenigmaescott: He isn't running gnome17:43
p896gbm wad: no, that's not normal. your window manager is crashing.17:43
J11how can i limit a2ps so that it tries to make  one page per png image?17:43
TimothyAdr_willis: trying to extend my 10GB partition to 100GB17:43
TimothyAeither by creating a new partition, or resizing the existing one17:43
wadp896gbm, is there a log file somewhere I can check, to see why?17:43
p896gbmwad: there probably is. sorry, i'm useless for this one17:43
wadlol, me too.17:43
dr_willisTimothyA,  you will want to be doing such a task with a live cd. - You dont resize in use partitions.17:43
p896gbmwad: i don't even know what the window manager is on the latest ubuntu. i use kubuntu17:44
dr_willisTimothyA,  i suggest getting the gparted live cd.  its a must have for a PC tool box.17:44
TimothyAhence, creating a new partition...17:44
TimothyAI have no physical access to the server17:44
pragmaticenigmabeef-supreme: do you have the Openbox configuration tool installed?17:44
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, yea,17:44
p896gbmwad: try googling something like "ubuntu natty window manager crashing" or something (without quotes of course)17:44
wadok17:44
oCeanp896gbm: don't suggest google here, thanks17:45
pragmaticenigmaThere might be an option in there under the Desktop or Monitor settings (i'm going out on a limb since I don't use openbox)17:45
dr_willisTimothyA,  if the rest of the hd is 'unallocated' you could just make a new partition there , format it, and mount it to be used as needed17:45
wadIs there a way to run it again? Would that fix it?17:45
TECHXhello ubuntu17:45
TimothyAdr_willis: *how*17:45
TimothyAit just keeps telling me it's incorrect or not correct17:45
dr_willisfdisk to partition, or parted. and mkfs17:45
TECHXhey uhm i have a problemo with the ubuntu server i have set up17:45
dr_willisTimothyA,  what/where is this server comming from? they could be doing all sorts of weird things.17:46
p896gbmoCean: nobody else was helping him with his problem, at least i can give him good terms to search because i know what part of his desktop is crashing17:46
TimothyAdr_willis: vps17:46
TimothyAand I just increased the harddisk size17:46
J11so basically for every input file: fit to one page. I looked through a2ps options but couldnt find much, i see that it's being delegated to imagemagick17:46
wadoCean, he was helpful. :P17:47
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, i found xdpyinfo shows the dpi, i have 69*67, do you know how to raise that? maybe from the xorg file?17:47
TECHXso like basicaly iv been trying to setup a telnet to my server from my mac and i cant seem to get it to work and its not letting me install a GUI on the ubuntu box17:47
wadI did "metacity --replace" and that kinda brought it back. Lost all the compiz goodness.17:47
dr_willisTimothyA,  never used a vps. so you may want to ask  them/check their guides/docs on the proper qway to do it.17:47
escottwad, depends on what wm it is either compiz --replace or metacity --replace17:47
dr_willisTimothyA,  or just fire up 'fdisk' and create a new partition.17:47
oCeanp896gbm: pointing to google searches is not helpful. And per channel's guidelines discouraged, so please don't do it again17:48
p896gbmoCean: ridiculous17:48
p896gbmthe user i said that to even told you it helped him17:48
escottbeef-supreme, its part of xrandr but i think you said you were using nvidia so thats out. either xorg.conf which you might have to create or nvidia-settings, maybe the xrandr that nvidia supports does dpi17:48
oCeanp896gbm: that is not the point, we don't allow it here, since it is hardly every useful, even if it was in this case.17:49
oCean*ever17:49
pragmaticenigmaxrandr should be able to adjust the DPI17:49
p896gbmwad: if it lost your fancy effects it looks like compiz crashed. either compiz is buggy, or maybe you need a better driver. what graphics card do you have?17:49
TECHXhi?17:50
komodowaranhi @all17:51
TECHXhey komodo17:51
bhorisss irc.telkom.net.id17:51
TECHXcan anyone help me with my ubuntu server isues?17:52
* pragmaticenigma is off to lunch...17:52
oCeanpragmaticenigma: no need to announce away17:52
TECHX>_>17:53
pragmaticenigmaoCean: announcing because I was trying to help someone and their problem isn't remedied yet17:53
wadHeh, sorry, I managed to completely hose myself on that one.17:53
oCeanpragmaticenigma: understood, but please don't17:53
TECHXoh dear this room sould be about help not about seeing who can ass kiss and be the chatpolice oCean17:53
erfkim17:54
erfhejka wszystkim17:54
oCeanTECHX: you got to lose that attitude17:54
Thraspic...17:54
wadoCean, I just needed to know what was causing it. The google search he suggested showed immediately what the problem was, and how to solve it. Not sure why you think that suggesting a google search is "hardly ever helpful". I find that the main thing I go to IRC for is for someone to suggest a good google search for me to try, so I can get my info without bothering the cannel.17:55
TECHXo really? Cean? hows the shitty weather in london today?17:55
J11hmmm,  -1, -2, ..., -9   predefined font sizes and layouts for 1.. 9 virtuals .  Not sure what that means but that could mean it will try to fit 1 image  on 1 page17:55
oCean!guidelines | TECHX i suggest you take a read17:55
ubottuTECHX i suggest you take a read: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines17:55
TECHXbtw ocean im not going to take orders from you no offence17:55
IdleOneTECHX: oCean actually is a chan op and please keep the language clean17:55
ThraspicoCean is right, those people who simply refer to Google do the world more harm than good.  Especially idiotic on forums, which Google leads back to anyway.  Pet peeve of the millenia.17:56
TECHXcan anyone here actualy help with the gui problem i have on the ubuntu server?17:56
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TECHXor not?17:56
edbianha17:56
escottJ11, i think the imagemagick approach makes the most sense make a series of files each one a single page and then join them17:56
J11what does people understand under a 'virtual'?17:57
oCeanwad: understood and thanks for the input. It does not change our point of view though.17:57
TECHXdidnt think so17:57
edbianwad: What is the issue?17:58
wadI appreciate the efforts by you guys to keep this channel helpful. I'll be sure that the next time I ask for help with something, to add this parenthetical: "(please feel free to suggest a google search for me to try)"17:58
edbianWhy would anyone volunteer to help such an agressive person17:58
Thraspic...17:58
Chotazwhen using ssh in linux is there anyway to specific the password in the connectiong command?17:59
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, xrandr isn't helping17:59
escottJ11, where are you seeing this17:59
J11escott: in the man page of a2ps17:59
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wadChotaz, nope. Use a key.17:59
wadChotaz, well, there *is* a way to do it, but trust me, you don't want to go down that road.18:00
Chotazwad,  care to explain further please?18:00
J11escott: strange now i see: ... (png, delegated to ImageMagick): 2 pages on 2 sheets] in the output for a singe png18:00
wadChotaz, sure. The best way to use ssh is to set up a public and private key.18:00
wadChotaz, let me grap a document.18:00
Chotazwad,  thank you18:00
mne7hello18:01
escottJ11, i would just use imagemagicks convert in a bash for loop, and get yourself a set of files. if you need to join them into a single document there are many easy ways to join ps files18:01
mne7anyone know how xorg version come in xubuntu 11.04?18:01
PhoenixSTFHey is anyone having issues with printi in 11.04 cutting off the top of the document?????18:01
aguitelanyone know how install this usb wireless device :Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1737:0077 Linksys  ?18:01
edbianmne7: HOW it works?18:01
mne7what xorg come with xubuntu 11.04?18:01
escottChotaz, use ssh-keygen to make the key and then put your public key in the servers ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file18:01
wadChotaz, there are lots of documents on how to do it. Look at the man page for ssh-keygen first.18:02
mne7edbian: i only need know what the version of xorg come in xubuntu 11.0418:02
Chotazescott, wad , thanks a lot :18:02
IdleOnemne7: maybe ask in #xubuntu18:02
mne7IdleOne: ok, ty18:02
escottChotaz, so its just ssh-keygen; scp .ssh/id_rsa.pub user@remote:/home/user/.ssh/my_pub_key; ssh user@remote (and cat the file to append to authorized_keys)18:03
wadChotaz, once you start using keys, you'll never go back to passwords. :) The first thing I do when I get access to a computer is to stick my public key on it. From then on, I can get into it without having to remember a password. :)18:03
mne7IdleOne: the xubuntu have same version of ubuntu dude18:03
wadIf someone managed to get a hold of my private key, and somehow (GOOD LUCK!!) cracked its passphrase, they would have access to a lot of machines!18:04
oCeanescott: you can also use 'ssh-copy-id'18:04
mne7what version of xorg have ubuntu?18:04
IdleOnemne7: apt-cache policy xorg18:04
IdleOnethat will give you the installed version18:04
mne7IdleOne: i don´t have ubuntu here dude18:04
edbianmne7: aptitude show xserver-xorg18:05
mne7IdleOne: i use arch linux, but i need know what xorg version have ubuntu for help a friend18:05
oCeanmne7: in packages.ubuntu.com you can find package versions18:05
IdleOneoCean: can you run apt-cache policy xorg and report installed version to mne7 please18:05
mne7ok ok18:05
mne7ty18:05
g117hi! is there somebody who is able to help me a bit with PHP?18:06
oCeanIdleOne: mne7 I have Installed: 1:7.6+4ubuntu3 for xorg (11.04)18:06
idefixwhat do you need to install on your PC to be able to play VOB-files?18:06
IdleOneoCean: thanks. forgot about packages.ubuntu.com18:06
edbianmne7: version: 1:7.6+4ubuntu318:06
edbiandarn18:06
ziikutvHI18:07
mne7thank you very much18:07
edbiansure18:07
ziikutvis there a way to extend my wubi/ubuntu installation?18:07
cgrozag117, you will have better luck on PHP channels.18:07
edbianziikutv: 'extend' ?18:07
tacomasteri was wondering i am trying to encrypt a usb device and i came across a ubuntu site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage is 256 aes the strongest encryption that you can put on the device or is there something better you can use?18:07
vec__idefix: tried vlc?18:07
davrosanyone know of a good ipod sync application?  i think banshee does it anything else?18:07
vec__totem should work too18:07
ziikutvextend partition size?18:07
vec__or mplayer18:07
g117cgroza, could you advise me some active?18:08
IdleOneziikutv: I think 30G is the max with wubi18:08
cgrozag117: In a minute18:08
dpkg-buildpackagziikutv: Yes, to use dd to revrite you're whole dsk, and using Ubuntu live CD, extend the partition as much as you can!18:08
ziikutvIdleOne: Yeah but during wubi install, i made it really small18:08
g117cgroza, okay, waiting, thanks18:08
IdleOne!wubi | ziikutv see if this link helps18:08
ubottuziikutv see if this link helps: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe18:08
IdleOneziikutv: specifically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide18:09
ziikutv!wubi | g117 testing18:09
ubottug117 testing: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe18:09
ziikutvpj ppl18:09
ziikutvoh cool18:09
pcpoweror just install VirtualBox/VMware/Parallels/QEMU18:09
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cgrozag117: http://php.net/support.php18:10
cgrozag117: they have no official channel.18:10
delapenad18:10
PowerPCdUdEIs there a way to install Ubuntu on a M68K Processor?18:10
pcpowerlol no18:11
g117croza, doesn't matter, thanks anyway18:11
pcpowerSystem 7, yes18:11
pcpowerthat's about it :)18:11
ubuntu__he18:11
PowerPCdUdEWorkbench, and Debian work on M68K too18:11
komodowaranwhats the prob techx18:11
pcpowerPowerPCdUdE: http://www.linux-m68k.org/dists.html18:11
HimPhoenixhi, I have problems recongnizing a command of a programme which I have in multiple versions, because it always runs the oldest version of the program and I want to refer to newest one, how could I fix it? I think is about $PATH18:12
pcpowerPowerPCdUdE: you might want to try NetBSD also18:12
tntcI'm getting sluggish performance in flash when using my intel video card. Is there a particular acceleration method or setting to fix this?18:12
escottHimPhoenix, put the path to the newest one first in $PATH18:12
pcpowerwith such slow HW18:12
FloodBot1!netsplit18:12
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:12
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, escott i solved18:12
beef-supremeit's solved18:12
HimPhoenixescott, at the first place of the $PATH ?18:13
escottHimPhoenix, doesn't have to be first just has to be before the other18:13
beef-supremepragmaticenigma, escott problem was solved by adding      Xft.dpi: 96.0 to the .Xresources file18:13
beef-supremethanks for heading me in the right direction18:13
idefixvec__ thx18:14
voozeAnyone tried that Ubuntu server 11.04 could not find your harddrive?? I just tryed to install (currently running debian 6.0 with no problems) but ubuntu server 11.04 can only see my external harddrive, not the one "in the computer" any ideas?18:14
oCeanvooze: just a tip, there's also a specific #ubuntu-server channel18:15
aguitelanyone know how install this usb wireless device :Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1737:0077 Linksys  ?18:15
Chotazwad, you're right, this is awesome ^^18:15
voozeoCean: oh, did not know.. thanks18:15
* wad grins18:16
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Xhetoric4lHey.18:16
vec__i have a question18:17
ubuntu__hi, how do I change keyboard setting in ubuntu from the comand line, to get a spanish keyboard?18:17
vec__is it safe to eat bolognese after two days in the bottom shelf of the frdge?18:18
Raytekbrasileiros ON ??18:18
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jtiss546hello again.18:18
jtiss546can anyone direct me to help on Apache2?18:18
volkswagnerGreetings18:18
ChotazWhat can be used in ubuntu to monitor an ftp server's folder and automatically download new files put into that folder?18:19
volkswagnerjtiss546: just ask away if folks can help they will18:19
jtiss546my apache2 files don't seem to go where they should.18:20
vec__jtiss546: #ubuntu-server18:21
jtiss546yes18:21
vec__jtiss546: join that channel to ask about #ubuntu-server18:21
jtiss546ok, thanks.18:21
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ubuntu__hi, does anyone know how I can change my keyboard locale?18:23
vec__from cli?18:23
ChotazWhat can I use in Ubuntu to monitor a folder inside an FTP server and download any new files automatically?18:23
ubuntu__yes please18:23
ubuntu__I'm actually in a live cd... trying to fix a broken ubuntu18:23
escottChotaz, if you can contact the admin of that server you could use rsync. otherwise you may have to roll your own18:23
ubuntu__after I turend on proprietary drivers, the display wont work18:23
volkswagnerhow can I show in logout menu "shutdown" and "Reboot" options running LXDE on Ubuntu 11.04?  Usually in Debian I add user to powerdev group, but this group does not even exist for 11.0418:24
volkswagnerUpdate:  I have been able to get root user to get the shutdown, reboot options by installing policykit-1-gnome, but I'm still at a loss on how to get a normal user with sudo priv's to get the shutdown option18:24
vec__ubuntu__: ubuntu live-cd should let you choose the keyboardlayout at startup18:24
delapenawhy is ubuntu a better distro than fedora18:25
RenaKunisakiwhy is an apple better than an orange?18:25
vec__because its greener18:25
vec__:'D18:25
BrightAmbitionidk ask apple18:25
BrightAmbitionlol18:25
vec__only true for green apples thp18:26
vec__tho*18:26
nothingspecialubuntulo1: ubuntu__: did you install from the restricted drivers thingy?18:26
volkswagnerFedora release cycle is to quick for my liking18:26
morninghi ya'all18:29
tomreyntacomaster: AES256 is still pretty good, yes. And aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 is still a good enough choice for most, though XTS is is probably superior.18:29
claudiometGreetings!, I have problems with some Gnome themes like Radiance, Ambiance and Equinox (with Faenza icons, I can't see Appilcations menu icons and the system works extremely (very extremely) slow, what can be (a corrupted library may be?) ?18:29
rrefhi does someone know if there is a command to copy the whole content of a textfile directly in the clipboard ?18:30
escottrref, xclip18:30
leftisti reinstalled 10.10 again only 64bit this time.  the problem is i still get that amd unsupported hardwarre watermark.  i installed the ati drivers etc..but why is this notifying me with this ugly watermark?18:30
escottrref, do read the man page as there are actually two (or more clipboards) one for the middle click and another for ctrl-c ctrl-v18:31
PhoenixSTFHey is anyone having issues with printing PDF in 11.04,  is cutting off the top of the document, any fix for this?18:31
escottleftist, where do you see this watermark18:32
morninghave a question: I'm using ubuntu 10.04 on my dying laptop, so the only way I can use computer today, is launching a ubuntu LiveCD. I had to remove HDD, while it returns errors and stuff, although after ubuntu boots and everything looks normal my CPU still is like 97% in use, because it still is looking for a HDD. So my question is: can I kill a process to stop it searching for HDD? If yes, which one is it, what's the name of it?18:32
leftiston my lower right hand corner. did some research on it and it wasnt so clear.18:32
escottmorning, use system-monitor to determine what process is using the cpu18:33
jo-erlendI don't even understand how to ask questions on askubuntu.com... I've been looking and looking. I really don't understand it. Does anyone here know?18:33
leftistok escott18:34
saju_mrationalOgre Hi18:34
nothingspecialAnyone know how to force elinks to start at the top of the page?18:35
Xhetoric4lI have a small question about aesthetics, how can I change the desktop icon's highlight color/transparency?18:35
morningescott, I'm almost sure, that my problems are caused by missing HDD, I just don't wan't to kill something I shouldn't have...18:35
leftistescott to be honest i dont have any clue which process it could be. however let me do some more research on google about it.18:35
escottmorning, figure out what process it is first18:36
trismjo-erlend: http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask18:37
rref@escott when i tried xclip in the terminal i got the error message "Error: Can't open display: (null)" is there another option?  i'm using ubuntu server18:37
escottleftist, im not sure i understand what this watermark is. is this a watermark in your display? if so the problem is with fglrx18:37
leftistok18:37
escottrref, you have to do it from within an xterminal18:37
Darkenvyis there a log for screen?18:37
Darkenvyas in "screen -S name" kinda screen18:37
DarkenvyI missed an important crash message that Ic ant seem to get to now (AKA scroll upwards)18:38
saju_mI have to run #modprobe snd_hda_intel, to get sound after each boot, otherwise dont working18:38
Darkenvythis is vital and the longer I wait the further up the important info foes18:38
Darkenvy*goes18:39
beefmanis it possible to set config_hz=1000 on the fly?18:39
saju_malso sound is too low18:39
trismDarkenvy: ctrl+a [ lets you go into copy mode, and you can scroll with hjkl keys (hit esc to get out)18:39
escottbeefman, check /sys or /proc some kernels support dynamic ticks18:39
beefmanescott: where in those directories?18:40
trismDarkenvy: ctrl+b may also work to go back pages once you are in copy mode18:40
wombatmanwhat's everyones personally preferred newsgroup program?18:40
morningescott, it get's even funnier! Now I checked and it says processor usage 95%, but in process window, everything is yero in CPU section, exept for firefox and system monitor itselfe....18:40
oCean!poll | wombatman18:41
ubottuwombatman: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.18:41
omid_oThe middle button of my trackpoint (its middle button) dosnt work properly(scrooling ) on ubuntu while its ok when in windows /suse or Aptosid18:41
Darkenvytrism control+a does not18:41
wombatmanwell then maybe i should be even more specific18:41
escottmorning, make sure you are showing all processes and not just yours18:41
Darkenvycontrol+a still keeps me in typing mode18:41
trismDarkenvy: no ctrl+a [ (hit ctrl+a, let go and hit [18:41
wombatmanwhat is the featureset of the newsgroup program that you use18:41
BrightAmbitionspeaking of left18:41
BrightAmbitionIs there a such thing as a left hande keyboard and mouse?18:42
morningescott,  I'm using live CD, so there are no other accounts or users.18:42
trismDarkenvy: in byobu it is also mapped to F7, but you only mentioned using screen18:42
escottmorning, there is always a root user18:42
delapenais it possible to access other partitions on my hard drive from the unix shell18:42
goldmarHello guys, I've got a problem that's driving me crazy for hours... I like to use nohup to run stuff and it usually works flawlessly. However, now I've written a Perl script and it does not work with nohup (but does without). Even more strange is that it produces output about every 5 seconds but if I start the perl script with perl ./myscript.pl > output.txt the output file stays empty (and the script does not seem to work)... any ideas what cou18:43
goldmarbe the problem?18:43
Darkenvythis mode sucks18:43
hondjedelapena, yes if theyŕe mounted18:43
DarkenvyI cant figues this crap out :S18:43
delapenahondje: how do i mount them from the terminal18:43
bl4ckcomb`delapena, man mount18:43
morningescott, so sudo su and code "top" would do the job?18:43
escottmorning, not just find the menu and select show all processes18:44
trismDarkenvy: sorry, it is the only way I know how to scroll around in screen, someone else may have another option18:44
claudiometGreetings!, I have problems with some Gnome themes like Shiki,Radiance,Ambiance,Equinox. I can't see Appilcations menu icons and the system works very extremely slow, what can be?18:46
doomroboIs gnome 2 faster than unity?18:46
omid_oso nobudy here uses a thinkpad ?18:46
bl4ckcomb`doomrobo, define 'faster'18:46
rahul_I want some themes for ubuntu 11.0418:46
rahul_from where can I get some?18:46
doomroboPerformance18:46
bl4ckcomb`doomrobo, define 'performance'18:46
saju_min /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf i added    'alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel '  and 'options snd-hda-intel model=auto' , affter this 'snd_hda_intel' not auto loading18:46
doomroboBenchmark times18:47
trismDarkenvy: hmm, the arrow keys seem to work in copy mode too (at least in byobu)18:47
bl4ckcomb`doomrobo, for what operations?18:47
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CaveManhello18:47
saju_mso i have to run 'modprobe snd_hda_intel' after each boot18:47
doomroboAre there benchmarks on a lot of operations?18:47
dr_willistheres Benchmark suites out for linux18:48
bl4ckcomb`I have no idea, doomrobo, you can tias, since you can choose both before logging in18:48
PhoenixSTFHaving issues on printing PDF in 11.04, it  is cutting off the top of the document, any fix for this?18:48
doomroboSounds good18:49
CaveManHello, can anyone help me with a setting up vnc on multiple machines to work and be reachable behind a router....18:49
saju_mthen i removed that lines from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, but 'snd_hda_intel' dont loading18:49
dr_willisCaveMan,  you would need to ssh tunle them for vnc to be secure.18:49
dr_willisCaveMan,  freenx may be a better alternative.18:49
cyroulhi18:49
dr_willis!vnc18:50
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX18:50
saju_mHow to make 'snd_hda_intel' auto loading on each boot18:50
dr_willis!modules18:50
ubottuTo compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubottu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubottu blacklist18:50
cyroulcheck out teamviewer for remote desktop very easy to use and very handy18:50
CaveMandr_willis:ok.... my intension was to tunnel the traffic through ssh and port forward router side.... failing that I'm here18:50
morningescott, I ran "sudo ps ux" and it showed me all root processes, but all are 0% usage.....18:50
dr_willissaju_m,  theres some module autoload file. or make it load from /etc/rc.local18:50
beefmanfor quake wars in linux, i'm supposed to set config_hz=1000.  is it necessary to compile a custom kernel or can i change it dynamically?18:50
escottmorning, you dont need to sudo to see those processes18:51
rref@escott is there a tool that does not depend on the xterminal?18:51
escottrref, the $DISPLAY variable must be set andthe appropriate permissions for xauthority for anything to be sent to the x session18:51
cyroulwith ubuntu 11.04 and the new kernel 2.638, i ve got a blackscreen after booting, i can fix it using setpci but I'd like to find an option in grub, does anyone have an idea ? please18:52
lakeI have an Asus U52F and my headphone jack just does not work. Any way that I can fix that??18:52
morningescott, ok, but anyway, they are all zero, and still my CPU goes 95% all the time! Any idea?18:52
saju_mok i addded  'modprobe snd_hda_intel' in '/etc/rc.local'18:53
SnowmanX11Is there anybody who uses DynDns to access computer behind the router?18:53
SnowmanX11with ddclient18:54
morningescott, firefox consums 75%18:54
cyroulsaju_m: i ll give a try thx18:55
cyroulyou can use no-ip.org18:56
ComputerGuy_Hello18:56
volkswagnerSnowmanX11: I have used in in the past18:56
ComputerGuy_Can someone help me?18:56
ComputerGuy_I'm dualbooting Ubuntu 11.04 with Windows 7 and I tried to boot into Ubuntu, but I got a black screen with the <grub> command line18:57
avis2:13 communiation breakdown18:57
cyroulthat's the new kernel issue !!!!18:57
avislikeness.  natty.  kewl18:58
rahul_I want some themes for Ubuntu 11.04 from where should I get them?18:58
cyroulgnome art18:58
dashokadohow do i know which user a certain process is running?18:59
lakedashokado: ps aux18:59
lakeps aux | grep ur-process18:59
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dashokadolake: alrite cool.... so who owns the .pid is not relevant??19:00
rhin0got a really strange problem -- inspiron m5010 dell laptop broadcom MCM4313 wireless inside it ... install any ubuntu (tried x,l,ubuntu) this is 64 bit -- OS Installs fine works fine -- the minute it connects to broadband -- the system crashes - black screen of death pid 0 swap etc -- system connects using a separate usb wireless dongle -- what is it?  the wireless 'bios' is corrupted? i've been virused -- this came from british t19:00
cgrozaHello, I want to set up y own IRC server. I have install ircd-hybrid and then follwed the instructions, but the port 6667 is blocked and I can't connect to my local server. Anyone knows the solution?19:00
thingfishI tried installing 11.04 but it didn't like my vidcard (ATI 6950).  Has support for this card been made available yet, or do I have to use ATI's binary driver?19:00
dashokadolake: background story, i just installed and started  nginx and when i did ls -lha /var/run/nginx.pid, it showed that it was owned by root19:00
saju_mi red some article about increase volume in ubuntu, based on that i added 'options snd-hda-intel model=auto' in '/etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf'm but that not working19:01
rhin0unblock the port using ufw enable port19:01
rhin0sudo ufw enable from ipaddress to portno19:01
saju_mi am using dell inspiron n501019:01
rhin0cgroza19:01
rhin0if you're using ufw19:01
cgrozarhin0, do I need to reboot after?19:01
lakedashokado: i'm not really sure, sorry19:01
dashokadolake: np, thanks anyways19:02
rhin0no - ufw rules take effect rightaway -- type sudo ufw status to see your rules19:02
rhin0it links ports to an ip address cgroza or you can enable all ports for an ip address just to test it19:02
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morninghey all, so again I have damaged laptop, but now CPU in usage is 95% all the time and in processes only friefox "eats" 75%, is that normal?19:03
rhin0ie it will enable/disable a port for a specifi ip address19:03
grubnwbHello?19:03
lakegrubnwb: hey19:03
saju_mhere us tha article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=373287  (Very low volume sound)19:03
cgrozarhin0, it says the firewall is on and launced at system start.19:04
grubnwbMy ubuntu live cd took me to something called "busy box" and now the screen is just black19:04
rhin0but it'll be blocking port 6667 if it doesn't say its enabled its blocked19:04
cgrozarhin0, I try connecting with ssh and it sill says access denied.19:04
SnowmanX11volkswagner: can you help me a little bit?19:04
grubnwbMy ubuntu live cd took me to something called "busy box" and now the screen is just black19:05
rhin0you need to configure your firewall to enable the port for an ip address19:05
cgrozarhin0: how?19:06
morninghey all, so again I have damaged laptop, but now CPU in usage is 95% all the time and in processes only friefox "eats" 75%, is that normal?19:06
rhin0you need to learn about ufw how to configure it cgroza19:06
morningI don't know how bad is this, buy I removed HDD from it.19:06
saju_mi also tried 'options snd-hda-intel model=dell-inspiron-n5010' for increase volume19:06
grubnwbAnyone? you need to configure your firewall to enable the port for an ip address19:06
cgrozarhin0: there isnt a command I could run, I need port 6667 for my local network.19:07
dashokadohow do i check to see if a service will start at system start up?19:07
grubnwbSorry I ment: My ubuntu live cd took me to something called "busy box" and now the screen is just black19:07
ray24Hi  i need help with banshee. I'm having problem syncing my songs to my ipod. I am stuck on "banshee is preparing to synchronize" but it doesn't do anything.19:07
escottgrubnwb, what is the output of "mount"19:08
grubnwbInput/output error can not mount /dev/loop019:08
rhin0cgroza I am not an expert on ufw just a normal user -- as far as I can tell if you if a port is blocked it is a firewall problem19:08
rhin0ufw is very easy to configure -- play around with it19:09
rhin0learn about it -- no totally simplistic solutions -- if you are configuring an irc server you must know about such things19:09
grubnwbescott: Input/output error can not mount /dev/loop019:10
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escottgrubnwb, thats pretty messed up... the busybox shell means that the kernel couldnt open the harddrive19:12
escottgrubnwb, but the fact that your busybox shell is having trouble with its own internal loop mount is bad19:12
kaysindreCan lighting and power outage mess with ubuntu, so I cant see my eth0 connection?19:12
grubnwbWhich harddrive?19:12
escottgrubnwb, the hard drive with / on it19:12
grubnwbHow can I fix it?19:13
escottgrubnwb, is the hard drive functional?19:13
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grubnwbYes19:13
totleI'm installing a custom kernel and noticing that nvidia-current is failing during installation. Is this something expected?19:13
escottgrubnwb, and you have checked the smart status of it?19:14
go8765432how i can desable autojoin in xchat for my favorites rooms?19:14
escottgrubnwb, i would boot a livecd and chroot yourself. reinstall the kernel, reinstall grub19:14
Led_Zeppelinrunning 11.04 with dual screen setup. It seems when I try to use the default settings; after I login the screen just freezes. But with Ubuntu Safe mode everything is ok.19:14
daddyi have brother MFC-295CN, when i installed the driver and test the printer it prints out only the blank pages... How can i fix this?19:14
Led_Zeppelinusing nvdia as my graphics card19:14
grubnwbI'm trying to get into the live cd19:14
rhin01grubnwb you may have the problem that on 11.04 livecd is not the 'classic' ubuntu view19:15
rhin01I had that last night -- couldn't use it19:15
grubnwbI unplugged the harrdive (it's external) I'm trying again19:15
rhin01couldn't get live cd to boot into 'classic view'19:15
lakeAnyone with an Asus laptop w/ working headphones?19:15
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oCeango8765432: I'm not sure, but I think it always autojoins the channels mentioned in favorites19:16
JokesOnYou77hi all19:16
daddyi guess not too many ppl owns MFC-295CN19:17
grubnwbI get the same error. Does this mean there is something wrong with my internal because that's where I run windows 7 frk19:18
grubnwb*from19:18
myrmidetteCan anyone tell me why I can't log in to any of my other ttys?19:19
JokesOnYou77I know this isn't #android but does anyone here know of an android app that will let me use my phone as a multitouch trackpad?19:19
grubnwbI can boot into a live cd on 9.1019:19
myrmidetteI have ubuntu 10.04 and a fully working Xorg on tty719:19
oCeanmyrmidette: are getty processes running?19:22
grubnwbhow do I get into classic ubuntu from busy box in a live cd19:22
myrmidetteoCean, no19:23
myrmidettehow do I start it?19:23
oCeanmyrmidette: try service tty1 start19:23
oCean+sudo19:23
escottgrubnwb, ubuntu is on the external, but the bootloader is on the internal19:24
myrmidetteit's working, thank oCean19:24
grubnwbhow do I get into classic ubuntu from busy box in a live cd19:24
escottgrubnwb, you fix the problem and reboot :)19:24
oCeanmyrmidette: sure, I just don't understand, I assume they should be running by default19:24
myrmidettehow can I make them start by default?19:24
barak_Hello19:25
grubnwb? Ubuntu is not on my system yet. I can't get into the live cd19:25
escottgrubnwb, can you review how you did your install with what where19:25
bobo123i tried to add a user as a root in the /etc/group file, but the user is not root, i do something like root:x:0:USER_NAME19:25
AJ4XHi, can anyone help me with writing a script to launch 2 programs?19:26
escottbobo123, usermod19:26
bobo123escott, what is usermod?19:26
grubnwbI don't have an install of ubuntu only windows 7 on my internal harddrive19:26
oCeanmyrmidette: good question, I'm really not used to the new upstart system :(19:26
escottbobo123, man usermod dont edit /etc/group /etc/passwd by hand19:26
bobo123escott, but is it possible to be done by hand?19:26
barak_Can anyone teach me how to install gtk3 themes (10.10)?19:28
myrmidettealright I only need them occasionally and when I do I can just start them manually. cheers and thank you oCean :)19:28
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escottgrubnwb, if you are responding to me please use my name19:28
grubnwbescott: I was19:29
escottgrubnwb, so as i understand what you tried to do... you put grub on the mbr of the internal drive, and tried to get it to reference an external usb drive as the root-directory. im not sure that is supported19:29
Raccoonnice.19:29
escottgrubnwb, the safest configuration for you is to change your boot order so that the external is in the boot order prior to the internal, and put grub in the mbr of the external19:30
nibblhi. i'm installing ubuntu on some usb stick. first i put partition 3 (primary) with 4GB fat32, it had a blkid. then i changed my mind, removed the partition, made a 500MB /home (type 83, used for luks/dm-crypt) - but sda3 was still shown with the fat32 uuid and type vfat. so i dd'ed some zeroes to sda3, and now i wont get a blkid anymore. i recreated the partition and i tried using cryptsetup luksformat..... any hints?19:30
grubnwbEscott: I'm confused. I'm trying to get into the live disk. I have said nothing about grub.19:30
Raccoon#bitcoin-otc is just 451 users away from becoming the largest channel on freenode, moving #ubuntu into 2nd :)19:30
klownand how is that information of any help, to anyone.19:31
escottgrubnwb, ok so you are booting the livecd? and what is happening19:31
Raccoonklown: friendly rivalry19:31
nibblRaccoon, bitcoin split their bootstrapping channels as they hit the limit i hear?19:32
grubnwbEscort: I'm in busy box and it says it has failed to mount /dev/loop019:32
Raccoonnibbl: bitcoin doesn't use bootstrapping channels anymore, afiak19:32
bradyI want a command-line tool which I can use to remove the first 30 seconds from an MP3. LAME doesn't seem to have it.19:32
escottgrubnwb, you are in busybox on the livecd boot? and you are certain it was the livecd that booted. have you checked the livecd media? was it burned correctly19:33
escottbrady, mencoder certainly can but thats a bit overkill19:33
tensorpuddingbrady: sox might do it19:33
nibblRaccoon, thought they split up in many (fooo_00-99)19:34
Raccoonnibbl: on this network?19:34
nibblthought so. not sure, nvm19:34
Raccooni don't think the bitcoin client utilizes freenode19:34
Raccoonused to ages ago19:34
escott!ot | Raccoon nibbl19:35
ubottuRaccoon nibbl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:35
nikolamJust to say I HATE when updating Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64bit, kills my productivity and applications response time and jitters sound and turns my computer to a pig, just because someone was lazy to nice update processes by default19:35
grubnwbEscort: I bites it correctly and at a slow speed too. I am sure it is the live cd . And yes I am in busy box on live cd. I was bootin from the cd the live cd then it brought me to the wired busy box error.19:35
grubnwb*burned it correctly19:35
bradyescott, tensorpudding mp3splt looks like it might work. Trying.19:36
escottgrubnwb, that error message very much sounds like a bad burn, either that or failing cd drive, or possibly some other issue with the cd drive19:37
grubnwbShould I try a different disk?19:38
escottgrubnwb, either try a different disk or try the usb installer method19:38
grubnwbOk19:38
escottgrubnwb, have you gotten that disk to work before?19:38
ray24Hi  i need help with banshee. I'm having problem syncing my songs to my ipod. I am stuck on "banshee is preparing to synchronize" but it doesn't do anything.19:38
p896gbmhi folks, is there a channel that discusses c programming?19:39
OerHeks!C++19:40
grubnwbDoes 32 bit ubuntu run faster on a 64 bit machine?19:40
tensorpuddingno19:40
tensorpuddingi mean, comparing apples to apples19:40
Gskelligwell19:40
Gskelliga 64bit machine would indicate that the cpu is better than a 32bit machine19:41
tensorpuddingmost 64-bit machines nowadays are more powerful than 32-bit machines irrespective of register width19:41
Gskelligits comparing a nice juicy crisp apple to a shittier, bruised apple19:41
Gskelligyeah19:41
Gskelligtensorpudding said it well19:41
ubuntuguyHow do I get angry birds to work on wine?19:41
Gskellighow do i get angry birds to work on windows??19:41
Gskelligubuntuguy, try playonlinux i heard its good19:41
ubuntuguyDoes it have angry birds?19:42
vec__no19:42
praxgenwine can handle angry birds19:42
tensorpuddingthe only place that 32-bit processors intermingle is probably at the low-end19:42
tensorpuddingat the desktop midrange there really aren't any 32-bit processors left19:42
vec__there are no 64 bit processors below midrange19:43
ActionParsnip!appdb | ubuntuguy19:43
ubottuubuntuguy: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help19:43
vec__isnt angry birds available as a chrome experiment or sum such19:43
Seoesterusr chromium and go to http://chrome.angrybirds.com19:43
vec__when i see screenshots of chromium, theres always a pic of angry birds opened in the browser19:44
Seoesteruse*19:44
vec__yes19:44
vec__thx Seoester19:44
OerHeksvec__, a celeronD 521 3 ghrz is a below midrange 64 bit cpu19:44
ActionParsnipvec__: There's a P4 running at 3.8Ghz, not exactly midrange...19:45
tensorpuddingceleron D 521? that's pretty old19:46
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yan_Hello, I've tried googling for this to no avail. Basically, after trying to upgrade 10.04 to 11.04 in a VM, the system locked during the tail end of the installation process. Now, it won't even boot into single user mode, kernel panic'ing on being unable to mount /dev/sda1. The drive image mounts just fine when using a live cd. Can anyone recommend next steps?19:46
PhoenixSTFPrinting issue in 11.04, when printing pdf or doc, the top of the document gets cut of, help pls :)19:47
vec__PhoenixSTF: did you play with the printer settings19:47
escottPhoenixSTF, check that your set to letter and not a4 paper19:47
vec__like margin width19:47
lnxusr221Hi!  I put my mp3 player in my USB but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it.  Last ubuntu I had it worked fine, recognizing it as a USB stick basically...19:48
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PhoenixSTFvec__, yes, everything you can imagine, if i print from mozzila all is ok, but from PDF and DOC, top gets cut off, this only hapens in 11.0419:48
lnxusr221anyone can help on how I can get the drive to show up?  in /var/log/mesages I see it says "new high speed usb device using ehci hcd and address 17"19:48
lnxusr221But it never opens up the folder or shows me any of the files19:48
PhoenixSTFescott, yes i did, its problably a bug or just a problem glich but any workaround would be nice19:49
mewayWhy in mozilla on ubuntu does it keep asking me to save my password even though I said never save this password?19:49
skegeekHas anyone used EHCP? I installed it and it took over my domains with a default page and even after I turned it off the default page is still shown.19:49
blip99hi, is it normal to get errors when doing an apt-get update ?    I just used a sample sources.list from ubuntuguide.org and got 2 fails, one of them was:19:51
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blip99W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/mnatty-security/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found19:51
smwmeway, because "never save my password" is really "never for this site"19:51
vec__blip99: which version of ubuntu?19:52
blip99vec__: the latest, natty19:52
grzywaczhi19:52
vec__the sample source.list is probably outdated19:52
vec__why would u use this one?19:53
vec__blip99: ^19:53
blip99vec__: I keep having problems with sources no matter what I do, I copied some from the web, I used software-properties-gtk to select a mirror19:53
blip99all seem to have faluires19:53
blip99failures19:53
OerHeksnatty, not mnatty19:53
blip99vec__: I just ran an apt-cache search and got "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/linux.dropbox.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-i386_Packages)19:54
blip99"19:54
blip99I checked sources.list... it only has 1 dropbox entry....19:54
BluesKajblip99, open your package manager and enable all the repositories lie canonical parthers and other software sources19:54
skegeekWow, the creator of EHCP sure don't make it easy to remove.19:54
blip99I don't get this, did Apt change the way it works ? where else could a source be saved19:54
blip99BluesKaj: should i delete sources.list first to be sure I don't have multiple sources ?19:55
trismblip99: dropbox will be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ in some file with dropbox in its name19:55
trismblip99: it gets added automatically when you install the package19:56
BluesKajblip99, no , it will be overwritten by your choices in the package manager19:56
Led_Zeppelinrunning 11.04 with dual screen setup. It seems when I try to use the default settings; after I login the screen just freezes. But with Ubuntu Safe mode everything is ok.19:56
vec__Led_Zeppelin: nvidia?19:56
dustin_ubuntu 11.04 ATI dual screen issue, is there a way to define my ACTUAL monitor as screen 1 with my 32 inch TV as screen 2 in 1080(hdmi) and is there a known issue with the mouse "looking funny" on screen 2 as well as the inability to type on screen 2?19:57
Doonzcan anyone recoomend a idiots guide to setting up an open vpn server and client19:57
Led_Zeppelinvec__, yes.19:57
Led_Zeppelinvec__, I preassume you have the same problem ?19:57
vec__have you installed the propriatary drivers?19:57
vec__no19:57
grubnwbHow to you clear the mbr within ubuntu?19:57
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vec__i have a working twin view setup19:57
MohammadAGDoes anyone know which package the "Workspace switcher" gnome 2.x plugin is in?19:58
vec__grubnwb: with dd19:58
Led_Zeppelinvec__, yes. I am running it now. The dual screen works perfectly fine. But I am in 'ubuntu safe mode'. When  I try to use the regular ubuntu login, I get my right screen active with huge fonts. And I get a mouse action but I can't click or do anything.19:58
JokesOnYou77I have a (really) old Dell I'm running Natty on and it keeps disconecting from the wifi.  I think it's turning off it's usb hubs for power saving or something, can I turn that off?19:58
BluesKajLed_Zeppelin, what graphics card?19:59
grubnwbHow do you clear the mbr in ubuntu? I want to clear it because it is all junked up with grub installs19:59
Led_ZeppelinBluesKaj, its an Nvidia, GeForcGeForce 7300 LE19:59
grubnwbAnyone? How do you clear the mbr in ubuntu? I want to clear it because it is all junked up with grub installs20:00
BluesKajLed_Zeppelin, did you set up dual scrns in the nvidia gui ?20:00
vec__grubnwb: im at it20:00
Led_ZeppelinBluesKaj, yes20:00
vec__read it in a ubuntu howto20:00
th0rgrubnwb: you are aware that if you 'clear' the mbr the system will no longer boot?20:01
BluesKajusing the recommended driver ? Led_Zeppelin , I have to ask20:01
vec__grubnwb: dd if=/media/sda/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=120:01
vec__from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot20:01
rjonesxhow do I change the directory that you get dropped into when you login via ssh (ie: instead of /home/user, I want to land in /var/www/html20:02
blip99BluesKaj: ok I'm testing it again now with package manager, should i enable src too ?20:02
Led_ZeppelinBluesKaj, not sure what the recommended one is. How do I find out?20:02
blip99I don't want source code, or maybe some tools need it to compile itself ?20:02
Led_Zeppelinsudo /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p20:02
Led_Zeppelinnvidia-current                        270.41.06-0ubuntu1   using this version. seems like I may need to downgrade20:02
BluesKajLed_Zeppelin, system>admin>additional drivers20:03
dustin_is dual screen the new major glitch in ubuntu 11.04 and is it only in 64 bit or in both?20:03
vec__grubnwb: wait that was bollocks20:03
Guest59149does anyone know how to get a gparted live cd to not give no screen found errors?20:03
vec__but it should gove you the idea20:03
vec__that one was to back up the mbr20:03
BluesKajblip99, not the src20:03
Led_ZeppelinBluesKaj, using 'recommended'20:04
Led_ZeppelinBluesKaj, let me downgrade and see what happens20:04
BluesKajLed_Zeppelin, it'will probly crash20:04
vec__grubnwb: the correct command would be ''dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=120:05
vec__i think20:05
Led_ZeppelinBluesKaj, reading this, http://paulscomputernotes.blogspot.com/2011/06/unity-3d-with-nvidia-geforce-7300-le.html and seems like thats what he did20:05
Led_Zeppelinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/37629/geforce-go-7300-7400-blacklisted-can-i-still-run-unity/38728#38728 here is the right anwer20:05
MohammadAGI'm missing most of my gnome-applets with Ubuntu 11.04, keep getting The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet" and similar for other applets20:06
BluesKajok Led_Zeppelin , I'm using a 7600gt on my other box without probs but just a single scrn20:06
thiebaudeLed_Zeppelin, im using nvidia also had to switch back to gnome classic no effects20:06
Led_Zeppelinlet me give it a try and let you know20:06
thiebaude8400 gs20:07
Led_Zeppelinthiebaude, ah yes. thats what  am doing. It works20:07
Led_Zeppelinthiebaude, http://askubuntu.com/questions/37629/geforce-go-7300-7400-blacklisted-can-i-still-run-unity/38728#38728 probaly applies to you too20:07
thiebaudefirefox in unity for me is not usalble20:07
thiebaudeusable20:07
BluesKajthiebaude, same here but single output to panasonic tv20:07
thiebaudethanks Led_Zeppelin  i'll check that out20:07
thiebaudeim dissapointed alot20:08
* BluesKaj is happy with KDE20:08
thiebaudeBluesKaj, maybe i need to try that out20:09
dustin_has anyone here had a good experiance with dual screens since 10.10?20:09
BluesKajeven got xbmc running on 11.10 , kde 4.6.320:09
thiebaudeBluesKaj, i have not started my testing yet20:10
thiebaude11.1020:10
BluesKajthiebaude, we've had quite a few ppl exploring kde since unity appeared20:10
dustin_BluesKaj, up till 11.04 came out I had a beutiful Knome setup and loved it20:11
thiebaudeBluesKaj, im going to burn a cd and try it as my standalone os20:11
thiebaudehave not used kde in years20:11
Led_Zeppelindidn't work20:12
Led_Zeppelincrap20:12
thiebaudeok guys bbl got to do some downloading :)20:12
BluesKajthiebaude, i tried a complete ubuntu install and I'm afraid Unity didn't do much for me or my needs , but after all a desktop is a matter of taste if all functions are ok20:13
blip99BluesKaj: one of them is still failing, but it doesn't show up under hte Kubuntu Software tab (KPackageKit), but rather under "Other Software".  I think it got added as an external thing, maybe it's not needed.    http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  mnatty-security main restricted20:13
blip99looks like a type too.. 'mnatty'20:13
bezaoi'm gettin 'falied to bring up eth0', ifconfig -a shows eth1, but with no ip, how can i correct this?20:13
thiebaudesoo true20:13
thiebaudeBluesKaj,20:13
BluesKajblip99, or an old ppa that was disabled during your upgrade20:13
ksbalaji_Hi! Suddenly I am not able to use mouse to draw in GIMP. Inadvertently some settings changed?20:14
BluesKajbezao, eth0=dhcp , the run ifconfig20:15
thiebaudeBluesKaj, should i download a cd or dvd20:17
dustin_does anybody have a fix for dual screens witth ATI in 11.04 or do I need to switch back to version 10.10 to make things work again?20:17
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ksbalaji_please suggest a channel for GIMP help anyone?20:18
MagicJI have installed 10.4 from a memory stick that I know is good since I have done other installations - if I run this machine from the stick it works well - install appears to work and if I look at the disk all looks right - but it won't boot - almost as though the boot record did not get written - any ideas?20:19
thiebaudeBluesKaj, on the kubuntu site it gives me a choice of dvd or cd20:19
BlouBlouthiebaude: choose cd20:19
thiebaudeok thanks cool20:19
dustin_ksbalaji_, #gimp20:19
KimLarouxhttp://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal,2943-13.html "Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat gets over two hours more battery life than Natty Narwhal" Is this proven and common to every systems?20:19
thiebaudeit has the codecs?20:19
IdleOneksbalaji_: irc.gimp.org #gimp20:19
ksbalaji_dustin_, thanks.20:20
K1nghow do i write 192.168.2.1/192.168.2.255 like 192.168.2.1/2420:21
icerootK1ng: 192.168.2.0/2420:23
K1ngiceroot, thanks20:23
K1ngiceroot, i dont want to use 192.168.2.120:24
icerootK1ng: ?20:25
K1ngnvm20:25
Short1good morning20:25
Short1wondering if anybody can assist - trying to install via Target Disk Mode to a PPC G4 which will not boot from usb/fw, and has no CD drive20:26
ray24Hi  i need help with banshee. I'm having problem syncing my songs to my ipod. I am stuck on "banshee is preparing to synchronize" but it doesn't do anything.20:27
PlughWith the move to LibreOffice in Ubuntu 11.04, is it right for both OO and LO installed as that is what I see in package manager?20:28
Plughfor both OO and LO to show as installed20:28
nibblhow to remove all desktop stuff from ubuntu? xorg, sofwares etc?20:29
Dmoleray24: did you look in ~/.config/banshee-1/log or whereever?20:29
ActionParsnipShort1: did you MD5 test the ISO?20:29
ray24Dmole, not sure what I could do with log20:29
ray24Dmole, I've even removed banshee and reinstall and deleted it's folder from .config20:29
ActionParsnipnibbl: remove xorg and it should remove the rest20:30
Dmoleray24: it would tell you or whoever you are talking to what went wrong.20:30
alketHi, Im using Lucid Lynx, I installed Liferea reader and now the system is promptin for "Broken Package" all the time20:30
Short1ActionParsnip: i did not, but it is the Ubuntu_PowerPC_maverick from ubuntu.com20:30
ActionParsnipShort1: doesn't matter where it's from. It can still be mangled in transit20:31
ray24Dmole, I'm looking at the log, not sure what information is relevant20:31
ActionParsnipShort1: test the ISO so you know it's complete and consistent20:31
Short1ActionParsnip: ahh okay20:31
JohnSS_Should I use the proprietary driver provided by my video card manufacturer for Linux or just use the one that comes with Ubuntu?20:31
ActionParsnip!hashes20:31
ubottuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.20:31
Dmoleray24: empty the log then recreate the problem then pastebin the log20:31
Short1ActionParsnip: would that affect the ability of the PPC to read it from USB and/or booting from USB?20:32
ray24Dmole, so delete the log, save, then sync again?20:32
cradami hate GPRS20:32
ray24Dmole,  gotcha20:33
nibblActionParsnip, sadly it does not. xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core do not have this effect :/20:33
DmoleJohnSS_: normaly but you might want to test various things like x264+compiz and see which one works best or with lowest CPU usage20:33
sudeepI need to know what process is going on behind  when a program is executed. Is there any command for it?20:34
Dmolesudeep: top20:35
Plughbbl20:35
DmoleShort1: do PowerPCs boot from USB at all? I thought you needed a boot CD or the 3rd party firmware?20:37
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sudeepDmole I guess top gives you all the tasks running. For example when you run firefox, can you able to know what all process is it executing?20:37
Short1Dmole: did some research and it seems that some late model PPCs will boot from USB, but I also tried to boot via firewire, which should be supported.  I get a blue screen with a refresh arrow on the left and a left-pointing arrow on the right.  Clicking either gives no results20:38
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ActionParsnipnibbl: just hault out libs and low level stuff like that and the rest should fail deps and be offered to be removed20:39
ActionParsnipnibbl: like gnome* and libgnome* stuff like that20:39
ActionParsnipShort1: if the data is corrupt, it won't work correctly20:40
ActionParsnip!away > Koops|brb20:40
ubottuKoops|brb, please see my private message20:40
Short1ActionParsnip: my DL did not pass md5!  re-downloading from cdimage.ubuntu.com20:40
selasiehello20:40
Short1ActionParsnip: thank you for the tip!20:40
selasiewhat tip20:41
ActionParsnipShort1: np man, remember to MD5 test in future. Torrents help verify data20:41
ActionParsnipselasie: to md5 test20:41
selasiewill anyone talk to me20:41
selasiehelllo20:41
ActionParsnipselasie: wassup?20:41
guntbertselasie: welcome to the ubuntu support channel20:41
selasiehi action20:41
guntbertselasie:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?20:42
Dmolesudeep: I did see something like that once.... maybe in man ps, also you could just run it as a user and show only pids from that user.20:42
selasiewhat is ubuntu support20:42
Short1ActionParsnip: I am using "hdiutil convert" to change the ISO to an IMG, and then dd if to make a bootable image on the Firewire per instructions on dl/server/dl from ubuntu.com20:42
ActionParsnipselasie: its teh purpose of the channel20:42
Dmoleselasie: it's a troll killer20:43
nibblActionParsnip, i am now using a diff to another machine to get the desired result... 354 packets to be removed...20:43
guntbertDmole: don't20:43
selasieim not a troll killer20:43
gizmobayI'm having a problem with sudo hanging. I enter sudo and command and it just goes to the next line and flashes as it doesn't ask for a prompt.20:43
Dmoleselasie: well tha's good to hear20:43
oCeanhi selasie, do you have a support question?20:43
sudeepDmole thank you. working on it.20:43
gizmobayCtr-X etc can't kill it so I have a bunch of sudo's in my ps20:43
gizmobayDon't want to reboot20:44
selasieum what is the support channel20:44
ActionParsnipgizmobay: do you run JUST sudo, or do you run:  sudo command20:44
guntbertgizmobay: tell us the command you entered20:44
gizmobaysudo command20:44
gizmobaysudo su20:44
Short1wondering if there is a different/better GUI distro for PPC than 10.10 Maverick Meerkat?  something else I could/should try?20:44
oCeanselasie: you are currently in the ubuntu support channel.20:44
gizmobayany command20:44
ActionParsnipShort1: kde, lxde, xfce, kde20:44
gizmobaysudo /test.sh20:44
ActionParsnipgizmobay: does it happen as all users?20:44
gizmobayI only have one20:44
selasieocean can i talk to action watever his name is20:45
ActionParsnipgizmobay: don't you mean: sudo ./text.sh20:45
grubnwbHello?20:45
gizmobayyes ActionParsnip20:45
Short1Thank you again!20:45
oCeanselasie: describe your support issue (detailed) in the channel, and see which user can help you20:45
selasieactionparsnip20:45
ActionParsnipgizmobay: there is a difference20:45
ActionParsnipselasie: wassup?20:45
gizmobayReboot would fix but I don't want to20:45
Short1I am a total linux noob as you can probably tell20:46
ActionParsnipgizmobay: if you run:   ps -ef | grep sudo     are there any running?20:46
selasieanyway im new to this channel what are all your names20:46
gizmobayyes20:46
gizmobay4 of them20:46
ActionParsnipShort1: md5 isn't linux specific ;)20:46
grubnwbCan anyone help me fix this? http://twitpic.com/5apfqs20:46
ActionParsnipgizmobay: kill them off if they aren't needed20:46
selasiewho20:46
oCeanselasie: that is not a support question, this channel is not for general chat20:46
gizmobayI can't I need sudo20:46
ActionParsnipgrubnwb: test ram20:47
Short1AP: I remember now, been a while since I attempted anything like this20:47
selasiethen what is it for20:47
sudeepDmole: pstree will work!20:47
oCeanselasie: last time I tell you: for technical ubuntu support20:47
selasieocean reply20:47
grubnwbActionparsnip: what do you mean?20:47
Dmolesudeep: sounds good :)20:47
jasonmchristosActionParsnip, is it possible to captivate the NTP request of a box and set the time to 1 second after midnight 1970 to root an ubuntu box?20:47
ActionParsnipselasie: names are moot here, if you have a support question then this is the channel you need, if you want idle chat then join #ubuntu-offtopic20:47
ActionParsnipgrubnwb: boot to liveCD or hold shift at boot and select memtest20:48
selasiefine im logging off bye loser20:48
ActionParsnipjasonmchristos: not sure, never looked into it20:48
rwwselasie: be nice, please20:48
ActionParsnipselasie: see ya20:48
selasiewas nice meeting you actionpasnip20:49
selasiehope to talk to u again sometime20:49
Dmoleguntbert: told you so20:49
jasonmchristosok ty for response ActionParsnip20:49
grubnwbActionparsnip: I held down shift. This is what I got: mounting aufs on /root failed: No space left on device20:50
ActionParsnipgrubnwb: not so good, use the liveCD20:51
grubnwbWait sorry hold on20:51
grubnwbI just went into Memtest8620:51
ActionParsnipgrubnwb: are you seeing any red outputs or is everything blue?20:52
grubnwbWhere do I look for out puts?20:53
bezaoit's possible after i've installed ubuntu in one language, i translate it to another language without re-installing everything?20:54
codeonwhy does keyboard key press and mouse motion does not work simultaneously ???20:54
Short1ActionParsnip: Is it possible to install vial Target Disk mode if I cannot get USB/FW to work?20:55
grubnwbActionparsnip: http://twitpic.com/5apkga this is what is up currently20:55
extraclassicwhen I right click to "Open with" there are some duplicate entries for programs that I'd like to remove...anyone know where I could fix that20:55
codeon why does keyboard key press and mouse motion does not work simultaneously ???20:55
grubnwbActionparsnip: http://twitpic.com/5apkga this is what is up currently20:56
Dmolecodeon: I suspect no one in here other than you has ever had that problem, thus they are unlikely to reply.....but maybe pastebin some log files~20:57
ActionParsnipgrubnwb: looks good, what video chip do you use?20:57
ActionParsnipShort1: not sure, not used it dude. If you have a floppy drive there is a floppy image to boot usb20:57
grubnwbActionparsnip: ATI radeon something it's an all in one pc20:57
Short1ActionParsnip: it's a Powerbook G4 12" =/20:58
bezaoit's possible after i've installed ubuntu in one language, i translate it to another language without re-installing everything?20:58
codeonDmole try it yourself...while keeping any key pressed in chat try to move your mouse20:58
Short1belongs to a friend, she suffered HDD hardware fail and can't afford a new machine.  I put a new drive in, trying to get linux up and running for her20:59
guntbertcodeon: work perfectly here20:59
guntbert*works20:59
codeonwhy mine is not working :(20:59
codeonanywhere21:00
grubnwbActionparsnip: http://twitpic.com/5apfqs I get this when I boot into ubuntu21:00
brown_ferncodeon: My understanding was that for Mouse settings there is an option on the Touchpad tab concerning this.21:00
TimothyAokay, so I rebooted into GParted Live CD21:00
TimothyAand I *still* cannot extend my ext4 partition21:00
trismbezao: in System Settings/Language Support, install the language packs for the language you want to add, then log out and select the language before you log in21:00
TimothyAbecause this stupid swap space is in the way, and I can't remove that partition21:01
TimothyAwhat the hell is the purpose of this thing if it can't do anything?!21:01
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bezaotrism the problem is that i'm using ubuntu server.21:01
th0rgrubnwb: did you do that dd command that fellow sent you a little earlier? did you try to 'clear the mbr'?21:01
grubnwbActionparsnip: I am now able to see grub but get "no such partition"21:02
MrJonescodeon: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs , if nobody has an idea here you might need to report it there to get extensive help21:02
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lonnieI'm trying to test out my new chat website No Bullshit. If you have a moment please click here chat anything you want:21:02
lonniehttp://neartalk.com/21:02
zatanHi how can I add "xterm" to unity left panel ?21:02
oCeanlonnie: stop that21:02
brown_ferncodeon: Universal power button>>System Settings>>Mouse>>Disable Touchpad Pad While Typing.21:03
xerfhi21:03
DmoleTimothyA: if you use a live CD and make sure you are not using any partitions (unmount them) you will be able to move the partitions around with gparted21:03
ray24Is Dmole around21:04
trismbezao: check-language-support -l language_code; will show you what packages you need to install from the command line (replacing language_code with the codename for the language you want), then you can install them with apt-get, you may also need to specify them in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/ and dpkg-reconfigure locales;21:04
codeonit's working yippeee21:04
codeonbrown_fern : thank you21:04
brown_ferncodeon: You're welcome. :)21:04
Dmoleray24: yes21:05
bl4ckcomb`any ideas on how to share my host's clipboard with my rdesktop session?21:05
bezaotrism thanks, i'll try21:05
trismbezao: for setting the locale system wide you may just need to edit /etc/default/locale, I don't know if there is a way to set it for a specific user21:05
ActionPa1snipzatan: run it, when it shows in unity, right click the unity item and select "keep in launcher"21:05
zatanActionPa1snip, I did try but when I do that , I cant run second time from unity lancher21:06
ray24Dmole, The sync is almost done, so I might need your help with this banshee thing soon21:06
ActionPa1snipzatan: Yeah I've heard this. I just use CTRL+ALT+T to launch a new terminal, or you can use guake and spawn tabs in that :)21:06
ljhr05hello all :D21:07
ljhr05how to run a installer (.exe) using wineHQ ?21:08
zatanActionPa1snip,  ok thanks and again unitty its annoying me21:08
aj00200I'm copying all the files out of my home directory (which is encrypted) but I'm seeing a bucnh of files like: ENCRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.*. Is this data still encrypted? I thought the files would be copied in the unencrypted for when I use scp to move them.21:08
ActionPa1snipzatan: guake is great if you do a lot of terminal work21:08
ActionPa1snipljhr05: mark it as executable and then run it with wine21:09
zatanActionPa1snip,  is it quick as xterm ?21:09
poefterhello everyone21:09
ljhr05ActionPa1snip, wait.. let me see21:09
evilspiralNeed Some Assistance With Dual Booting Issue...21:09
ActionPa1snipzatan: yes, it always runs, you show and hide it with a shortcut key, much like the terminal in quake (if you ever played it)21:09
poeftercan someone please help me with ubuntu 10.10 S3g unichrome install im having some issues. please help21:10
zatanActionPa1snip,  let me try :)21:10
evilspiralShould I Keep The Dual Boot Of Ubuntu And Win 7 Or Should I Just Install Windows And Use A Linux Pendrive?21:10
th0rpoefter: you won't get much of an answer until you clearly state the problem21:10
ljhr05ActionPa1snip, mm.. in property? =(21:11
newbee_please21:11
newbee_hi21:11
poeftermy problem is when i add driver "openchrome" o xorg.conf i restart x and itplays a sound and returns to login screen21:11
ActionPa1snipljhr05: yes, or you can use:  chmod +x file21:11
newbee_how can i get a boot to download and use with this server21:12
newbee_or script21:12
ActionPa1snipnewbee_: can you clarify the question, it doesn't make sense21:12
newbee_a program im using the browser21:13
brown_fernzatan: I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but when I want to add an application to the bar on the left portion of the screen in Unity I launch it, right-click on that then active application and choose "keep in launcher."21:13
poefterS3 UniChrome Pro CN700 /21:13
newbee_xchat didn't connect for sommereson21:13
bl4ckcomb`newbee_, that's not even english21:13
newbee_ssl or something21:13
zatanbrown_fern,  thank I tried this but it didnt work21:13
brown_fernzatan: I see.21:14
newbee_dudes foucs please21:14
TeeCeeHi, anybody else had issues with Intel Wireless stopped working recently? Seems like some firmware-issue.. :-(21:14
sudenewbee: what do u mean by boot?21:15
oCeannewbee_: sorry, but there are others that require attention also. Try to describe your issue (detailed) in single line21:15
newbee_im new on ubuntu and i tried to use Xchat the one that comes with the os but it did not conecct for some reason21:15
ziikutvis there anyway to resize my wubi ubuntu install and make it larger?21:15
zatanActionPa1snip,  its looks that I found a great tool "guake" thanks :)21:15
poefterany ideas how to fix my openchrome  problem, when driver in xorg.conf is set to "openchrome" X wont start but cange to vesa or login in failsafe then it works, the via drier just crashes and shows a blue screen.  ... please help someone21:15
sudenewbee_: what error does it show?21:15
ActionPa1snipzatan: totally :)21:15
aj00200I'm making a copy of the files in my home directory. What are these ENCRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED files?21:16
newbee_1 sec sudo21:16
Short1AP: 2nd 10.10 download, still did not pass md521:16
newbee_i let you know21:16
newbee_SASL only?21:17
guntbertShort1: use a torrent21:17
poefteranyone . . ?21:17
sudenewbee_: did u try to connect to another sever?21:17
atatreethello?21:17
newbee_yep worked just fine21:18
Short1guntbert: thanks I will try that21:18
atatreetis zleap her?21:18
sudeyou are only unable to get connected to ubuntu channel. Is that correct?21:18
guntbertatatreet:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?21:18
atatreet*here21:18
atatreetum, no21:18
newbee_i used mIRC and it says the same thing SASL only21:18
poefter01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)21:18
newbee_nope to the whole server21:19
guntbertnewbee_: join #freenode for connect problems21:19
ljhr05ActionPa1snip, done..now how I can use this program to connect internet in wine?21:19
newbee_though i've never been here this is my first21:20
newbee_ok gun21:20
ActionPa1snip ljhr05 it will happen as long as the linux OS has link21:20
* evilspiral Hands Newbee A Gun21:20
sudenewbee_: open xhcat. seclect freenode and press connect.21:20
amuphi21:20
xecurehello21:21
poefteranyone help with openchrome21:22
Short1I am assuming I should be using the "desktop install"...21:22
xecureI need a little assistance with my broadcom drivers and such21:22
ray24Dmole, here is the banshee problem in pastebin   http://pastebin.com/WLXZgBx621:24
grubnwbSd21:26
kthakoreHello I am trying to setup a openvpn client and I keep getting this error in my log http://paste.scsys.co.uk/11246921:26
zleapatatreet,21:26
poefterhelp with openchrome or chrome9 please...?21:27
atatreethi zleap21:27
zleaphi21:27
skegeekAnyone know where to find a patch to make WebMin follow Ubuntu packaging system?21:27
ikoniaskegeek: webmin is not supported,21:27
valentinhi21:27
zleapok you need to set up xchat to connect to the lug channel on flashtek21:27
ikonia!webmin > skegeek21:27
ubottuskegeek, please see my private message21:27
ray24has Dmole left?21:27
J697Can anyone help, I am trying to play Minecraft classic on Ubuntu 10.04 and the loading screen shows up but then it turns black :921:27
J697:(21:27
YankDownUnderskegeek, Yeah mate, it's not supported, however, I use  it on all my client's servers - and when I have to update packages, I do it manually via ssh21:27
skegeekSo, you're saying as long as I don't use it to manage packages then it should be fine?21:28
ikoniaskegeek: no21:28
jacque5a21:29
YankDownUnderskegeek, If you want to PM me, I'll be more than happy to tell you how I use it for my clients mate.21:29
ikoniaskegeek: check the link from ubottu, it's full of security holes, doesn't fit in with the ubuntu tools design etc etc21:29
ikoniaYankDownUnder: super kind21:29
skegeekIs Easy Hosting Control Panel recommended?21:30
ikoniaskegeek: by me personally, - no21:30
HoestbuitjeCheers mates, is there anyone avaible? I've got some Ubuntu 11.04 install issues.21:31
ikoniaHoestbuitje: just ask, if someone can help, they will21:31
sudehoestbuitje: go ahead21:31
skegeekSo far I've only found EHCP, VHCS, ISPConfig, and XPanel as free CPanel alternatives. ISPConfig I'm sure is way more than I need for site hosting.21:32
HoestbuitjeI've been trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 the last couple of days. The problem is, the install window does not respond to at "Where are you?", asking for my timezone. Everything else on the background does respond. I need to click the Forward button because it got my timezone perfectly right, but I can't click it. I am able to drag the window though.21:32
ikoniaskegeek: ubuntu uses config files in a unique way, it's not a good option for those sort of tools, also if you need those tools....should you really be hosting a site ?21:32
J697Why can't I play Minecraft classic in Ubuntu 10.04?21:33
skegeekI don't NEED them. I'd just like them, I get tired of SSH21:33
aj00200I'm making a backup of my home directory before a reinstall. All the private keys are stored in ~/.gnupg, correct? Is there anything else I should be sure to copy?21:33
sudehoestbuitje: thats wired problem. were you connected to internet during installation?21:33
airyKJ697: video card?21:34
bullgard4[ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso] How should I interpret the message "Ready, as soon as you are ready ..."?21:34
ikoniaskegeek: ok - well, in that case (my opinion only) you should look at the risks they present over you being "tired" of ssh21:34
HoestbuitjeYes I was syde21:34
ikoniaskegeek: eg: you shouldn't need to do that much maintenance on a working web host after setup,21:34
YankDownUnderskegeek, Mate, always remember that regardless of distro, linux is "what you want how you want it" - just a matter of customising/tweaking it to do AS YOU WANT and how you want it...21:34
J697airyK, Intel GMA 4500M21:34
Hoestbuitje*sude21:34
ikoniabullgard4: pardon ?21:34
skegeekAnd basically what you're telling me is Ubuntu has customized Linux to the core, thereby having lockins like MS Windows.21:35
HoestbuitjeUbuntu even tells me I'm connected when I have a look at the taskbar or however it's called within the Linux world (new here)21:35
bullgard4ikonia: How should I interpret this Ubuntu installer message?21:35
HoestbuitjeAlso, when I try the Ubuntu Demo I can browse the internet21:35
K-4UHoestbuitje: panel21:35
HoestbuitjeAllright K :P21:35
aj00200skegeek: no, you are not locked in. I see Ubuntu as a stepping stone from Windows to the overall Linux world.21:36
sudehoestbuitje: Even during my installation I was connected to internet. But I dint face that problem. I recommend you to get disconnected during installation ones.21:36
YankDownUnderskegeek, Mate, if you ask a Ford mechanic about a Chevy problem, you're going to be told that it's the FORD way or no way. However, when you want to work outside the spectrum, you can do as you want. It's linux, mate.21:36
HoestbuitjeK-4U told me the Timezone settings are retreived from my mobo clock21:37
HoestbuitjeThough I could try an install without a connection21:37
aj00200skegeek: also, you can undo these customizations easily. For example, dock applications to mimic the mac dock. A start button like interface. You can install KDE or an xfce.21:38
ikoniaskegeek: it's nothing like Windows - so please don't be silly, they just have a different file system layout for certain core config files21:38
ikoniaskegeek: sorry that message was delayed as my connection dropped21:38
Dmoleray24: now that you have a log of the problem you should google for things like "Banshee Illegal seek to offset"21:38
ikoniaYankDownUnder: superb summery21:38
skegeekWhat can be done about the unqiue package handling?21:38
aj00200I am making a backup of my home directory before a reinstall. Are the private keys stored in ~/.gnupg?21:39
YankDownUnderikonia, It's not that I'm trying to undermine... ;)21:39
ikoniabullgard4: it's pretty much saying "ready when you are"21:39
ikoniaYankDownUnder: no, it's true, I don't like the file system layout either21:39
escottaj00200, your gpg private key is21:39
sudeHoestbuitje: yes try ones. Normally It takes time from the bios. But ubuntu also take time from the network if you are connected to internet.21:39
paranoidiis grub2 in graphical mode by default? I have small lcd monitor on my server that has maximum resolution of 800x600 and even later kernes seem to shoot my foot these days ...21:39
aj00200skegeek: it's not unique. Its open source and shared across debian based systems and can be ported elsewhere21:39
aj00200escott: and ssh keys are all in .ssh?21:39
escottaj00200, yes21:39
Hoestbuitjesude: I would be amazed if this actually works, worth a try21:39
aj00200escott: thanks :)21:39
sudeHoestbuitje: Waiting for your resutls21:40
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skegeekJust how is it so different from other systems?21:40
ray24Dmole, seems like it's still an unresolved issue in other cases21:41
ikoniaskegeek: core things like apache are laid out different and use ubuntu specific tools to configure it21:41
ikoniaskegeek: you can override/undo it, but that requires a manual setup21:41
aj00200skegeek: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/21:41
ikoniaaj00200: I don't think he's asking that - he's asking what ubuntu does different than other distros21:41
Hoestbuitjesude: holy shit!... I interact with the window, seems to work... I didn't expect it to be this easy21:41
skegeekManual setup meaning not using the installer?21:42
Dmoleray24: well in that case file a bug report, pay someone to fix it, or use an alternative21:42
ikoniaHoestbuitje: control the language please21:42
ikoniaskegeek: no, it means changing the application configs post install21:42
robinabohello21:42
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ray24Thanks for your advice bro21:42
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Hoestbuitjeikonia: sorry there mate... thought it wasn't that bad21:42
sudeHoestbuitje: Congrats.21:42
aj00200ikonia: oh, ok21:42
Hoestbuitjesude: thanks, I'll just stay connected here untill I got it running21:42
robinabohow do you view your encryption pass-phrase? I just installed ubuntu and I pressed cancel before I could write it down21:42
skegeekOh, well that's not necessarily bad...I'm talking about a server, so there isn't even X11.21:43
sude<Hoestbuitje>: okay21:43
YankDownUnderskegeek, The reality of it all is this: If you're wanting to use something, say, for instance, Webmin, you're going to have to tweak out some things, possibly live WITHOUT some things...but as long as you document what you're doing (for your own knowledge and for future issues) you should be right as rain. When I use Webmin on a client's server, yeah, I have to change some things - both on the core system and on the Webmin c21:43
YankDownUnderonfigurations, but I've already tried and tested these changes, documented them for my own good (and in case I get hit by a bus) and it's been a happy working relationship since 2005 (at least for me)21:43
robinaboso, how do you view your encryption pass-phrase?21:44
ikoniaYankDownUnder: exactly21:44
Hoestbuitjesude: Seems to work fine now, thank you very much! It's installing right now. I think I am not supposed to pull out my internet cable to get the installation running, right? Did I find a bug?21:45
bullgard4ikonia: Thank you for your help.21:45
sudeHoestbuitje: Yes you have got a wired problem. May be a bug!21:45
aj00200robinabo: I'm not aware of any way to see that. I get the felling that it must be stored somewhere encrypted by your password, but I don't know how to get it.21:45
mongyrobinabo, how did you encrypt it?21:46
robinaboI just clicked on encrypt home directory21:46
evilspiralSo I Have An Issue Dual Booting Ubuntu And Win 7.... Should I Retry The Dual Boot Setup Or Should I Install Windows And Run Linux Off A Flash Drive?21:46
robinaboand on startup the message box said there was a terminal command to see it manually21:46
mongyrobinabo, umm..   try ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase21:46
mongyor something like that21:46
ActionPa1snipevilspiral: what is the issue?21:46
Hoestbuitjesude: Is there a way to investigate if this really is a bug, or an issue with my pc? and to report it?21:46
skegeekWhen I do 'netstat -a | grep ehcp' I get a line with 'ehcp_autoreply', I can't figure out how to stop/remove it.21:47
harushimoquestion, I created a new user on my ubuntu system but I want to log into that user on the terminal.21:47
robinabothat's the right one, thank you mongy21:47
harushimohow would I do that21:47
mongysweet21:47
evilspiralActionPalsnip: Everytime I Dual Boot Win 7 And Ubuntu Either Windows Or Ubuntu Refuses To Work, At This Point Its Windows.21:47
ActionPa1snipharushimo: you can use:  su foo     change foo to the username21:48
sudeHoestbuitje: I don't know exactly what is the cause . But I need can investiage21:48
harushimothanks21:48
guntbertharushimo: at the login prompt type the login name of the user, <enter> and the the password (no visual feedback)21:48
ActionPa1snipevilspiral: boot to liveCD and reinstate grub221:48
harushimopassword of the user or my password21:49
evilspiralActionPalsnip: But Will That Help Windows?21:49
ActionPa1snipharushimo: the user you are su'ing to21:49
ActionPa1snipevilspiral: yes as grub2 boots windows too21:49
harushimothanks21:49
harushimoI want to created some directory for these users21:50
evilspiralActionPalsnip: Because My Windows Issue Crashes Windows After Its Loaded For 15min21:50
ActionPa1snipevilspiral: may want to test RAM too21:50
K-4Uwho is talking about windows here?.. isn't that a bit the same as talking about the devil in the church?21:51
evilspiralActionPalsnip: I Think Its A GPU Issue, Out Of Nowhere It Crashes, Shutting Off Imediatley And Then Refuses To Restart As If It Had Overheated21:51
robinaboyes K-4u it is21:51
K-4Uokay :p21:51
YankDownUnderevilspiral, Just for a giggle and a grin, does yer graphics card have a fan, and have you cleaned the dust offa yer fan and from around the cooling fins as of late?21:52
evilspiralWell It Has Two GPU's In My Laptop But I Cant Open It Up As It Voids My Full Warranty21:52
Hoestbuitjesude: I've got it up and running. May I think you for your simple but problem-solving solution? :P21:53
guntbert!ot | YankDownUnder21:53
ubottuYankDownUnder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:53
guntbertYankDownUnder: soryy, I misread21:54
YankDownUnderevilspiral, It's not that hard to blow through the vents on the sides - AND to make sure that you're getting ventilation from underneath...just FYI...however, on that note, being that I have certs to open such things, that is generally one of the first things I do when I get a client's laptop/netbook - blow out the dust and schmutz and then take it from there... ;)21:54
sudeHoestbuitje: Thank you. And enjoy your installation.21:54
ljhr05what is the command to see the trademark of my video card on terminal?21:54
YankDownUnderljhr05, sudo lspci | grep VGA21:54
evilspiralYankDownUnder: Thanks For The Help. But Why Doesnt It Fail When I Run Ubuntu?21:55
robinabocan somebody tell me why in ubuntu i don't have to set a keyring but in lubuntu I have to give a password for a keyring???21:55
YankDownUnderevilspiral, Mate, it could be a matter of overheating once the GPU kicks in - I've seen it way more than a few times...that being said, when was the last time this worked properly and what has changed since that point in time?21:56
guntbertrobinabo: that depends mainly on the fact if you log in automatically or give a pasword21:56
leakywhenever i try and close down my ubuntu machine, it never does? it always goes to the desktop background, then hangs at a purple colour? never shuts down...21:56
Dmoleleaky: pastebin your log files21:57
rahul_guys I need some themes for Ubuntu 11.03, from where can I get some?21:57
ActionPa1sniprobinabo: the keyring password wioll offer to be set the first time you use it. You can set a blank password and not be bothered by it21:57
ActionPa1snip!theme | rahul_21:57
ubotturahul_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy21:57
leakyhow? (im new to ubuntu)21:58
abstraktwhy doesn't my jack server work anymore?21:58
abstrakti can't get any sound out of hydrogen21:58
abstraktjack starts, but i'm getting some weird permissions looking errors21:59
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Short1I'm using hdiutil to convert my ISO to IMG (os x terminal).  The IMG file appears in finder while the conversion is happening, but when it's done, the file dissapears.  any ideas?21:59
evilspiralYankDownUnder: Well I Have Been Re Dual Booting My System For A While Trying To Find The Perfect Harmony. Somethings I Need To Do Just Requires Windows.  And So Far This Was the Best Run So Far But When I Downloaded The Drivers For My GPU's Anytime I Use Something That Has Any Sort Of Graphics My Fans For The GPU Dont Seem To Kick In As Fast As My Ubuntu Partition21:59
sudeleaky: do this. I think it may help you. Go to terminal and type this sudo poweroff -f and press enter21:59
brown_fernparanoidi: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Changes-from-GRUB-Legacy   the forth bullet from the bottom indicates what you suspected and what anyone who's been running Grub2 knows. However, I would think that like other graphical aspects of Grub that it is just an option. I'm not familiar with editing those specific values in Grub2.22:00
leakythat's only a temporary solution? i want to be able to close the machine down user shut down normally. I'm not going to be the primary user of this machine.22:00
leakydmole which logfiles you want?22:00
sudeleaky: what is the error you are getting?22:00
leakyit's not an error, it just hangs, it doesn't shut down.22:01
skegeekWhat are the numbers at the right in a netstat entry?22:02
Dmoleleaky: messages, syslog to start22:02
skegeekThere are like 6 numbers and then the source name...22:03
Bar_3000 open files is a lot for a server ? :|22:03
robinaboSo I have a login password for lubuntu. But when I use a password it asks me to set a keyring password, which Ubuntu never asked me to do. When I leave it blank, it says that giving no password is unsafe. What should I do?22:03
robinaboI encrypt my home folder22:03
YankDownUnderevilspiral, Far out...far out...well, I'd look into the overheating bit for sure mate...and then, because of the "hangs" in both MS and in Ubuntu, I'd double check the consistency of your HD's to make sure nothing's been damaged in the FS's or physically on the disk...22:03
Dmoleskegeek: I-Node?22:03
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ljhr05I need to install drivers with a laptop using Intel graphics?..22:04
skegeekunix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     1517106  private/ehcp_autoreply22:04
Dmolerobinabo: blank is fine22:04
skegeekI'm referring to the 1517106 in that line22:04
evilspiralActionPalsnip: So Far Ive Done Several Disk Checks And BSoD Reports For Windows And As Far As I Can Read Into It Its Fine22:04
DasEiljhr05: gma graphics, integrated ?22:04
Dmoleskegeek: Proto RefCnt Flags       Type       State         I-Node   Path22:05
robinabogracias22:05
evilspiral:YankDownUnder: Sorry That Was Meant For You22:05
rypervencheevilspiral: That hurts my eyes...can you use proper capitalization please?22:05
skegeekOkay. How do I stop that then??22:05
skegeekI don't see any process id22:05
ljhr05DasEi, Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)22:05
leakydmole its too big to copy/paste/send? aha22:05
sudeskegeek:  netstat -p22:06
sudeleaky: use www.pastebin.com22:06
evilspiralRypervenche: I do appologize, but I have typed like that for years. Im slow typing otherwise22:06
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leakysude i am, the pc isn't copying it all for whatever reason...22:06
Dmoleleaky: zip it and post it somewhere, or clear it out then reboot then pastebin it22:07
DasEiljhr05: there have been some improvements in the younger kernel line for it, and so it comes integrated , which kernel are you running ?22:07
sudeleaky: how are you trying to copy22:07
rypervencheevilspiral: Well, it hurts my eyes, and I know many people who ignore people completely who type like that. Just a heads-up. It might be a good idea to change the bad habit while you still can. ^^22:07
DasEiljhr05: uname -r tells you22:07
leakyi tried ctrl + c & riclick sude22:07
leakyright click*22:07
sudeleaky: which file are you trying to copy?22:08
leakysude: syslog22:08
ljhr05DasEi,  2.6.38-8-generic22:08
leakysude: should i do what dmole suggest and clear it out and reboot?22:08
skegeekThanks, that allowed me to stop the autoreply service. I still cannot get rid of the default index page though - don't know what is keeping it there.22:08
DasEiljhr05: with that you should be fine, is there a certain issue you have ?22:09
sudeleaky: you can do that22:09
brown_fernparanoidi: I apologize, I think that's the wrong version of the grub documentation. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring%20GRUB%202   Try here for Grub2 configuration.22:10
ljhr05DasEi, well I just wanted to be sure.. you know what is the command to test the 3D drivers? ...the one that use a cube cap.. dont remember well22:10
sudeleaky: or u can do this. cat syslog  > /home/usename/Desktop/log22:10
DasEiljhr05: you could try glxgears from mesa-utils22:12
consolecowboymy laptop isn't suspending when i close the lid, even though it's set that way. how could i fix this?22:12
ActionPa1snipconsolecowboy: what make and model laptop?22:13
consolecowboyit's a toshiba satellite pro l30022:13
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ljhr05DasEi, 302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.317 FPS is good?22:13
consolecowboyfrom time to time it works, but not consistantly22:13
ActionPa1snipconsolecowboy: should've added that to the initial question. It is critical to your issue22:14
consolecowboyActionPa1snip: thanks22:14
ActionPa1snipconsolecowboy: are there any bugs reported?22:14
Short1ActionParsnip: got a working md5 checksum, still no love22:14
leakysude: still too big, ill reboot and copy/paste the latest info22:14
sudeleaky: okay22:15
consolecowboynot sure if there's anything new... it didn't suspend at all two ubuntu versions ago22:15
vladdypwnzHi, I'm having the weirdest time trying to access my old win7 partitions after installing ubuntu. sudo /dev/sd* shows a list of like 6 different filesystems (I'm guessing?) but every time I try to mount it it asks for a filesystem type and I can't seem to figure out which one it is. I've tried ntfs and fat32. what gives?22:15
Pen16Hello, I'm trying to unzip multiple files in a directory but they need to have a folder created for each zip22:16
jpmutwindows usually uses ntfs22:16
ActionPa1snipconsolecowboy: also, do bios upgrades state they fix any suspend issues?22:16
DasEiljhr05: for an integrated chip, I don't use gma, maybe ask this directly to someone doing so to have a check, 64k ain't bad22:16
vladdypwnz/dev/sda1 is where the ubuntu is installed. Assuming that /dev/sdb1 is an ntfs, what's a terminal command to try and mount it? Like I said it never think it's the right filesystem22:16
consolecowboyit's discontinued.. i don't think toshiba are releasing bios updates for it22:17
Pen16i'm using this command but $ unzip ‘*.zip’22:17
XqtftqxHello, my unity seems to be broken. None of the running apps appear in the 'dock'22:17
avisis there a perm easy way to switch to metacity22:17
cwheelerwhat's the name of the command to configure networking?22:17
ActionPa1snipconsolecowboy: hmm, do you have the latest BIOS then?22:17
consolecowboyi tend to be a bit rough with the machine, so it is possible that i simply broke the 'close lid' sensor22:18
rypervencheconsolecowboy: It would be a good idea to check anyways. Things like that are often fixed in the BIOS.22:18
ActionPa1snipavis: add a startup item to run:  metacity --replace22:18
consolecowboyrypervenche: ok, i'll have a look22:18
avisthere's a way to do it from  console th22:18
Pen16but it just dumps all the files to one folder and they are similar so i cant rename them22:18
jpmutvladdypwnz, I have an application called palimpset which I use to easily mount my filesystems22:18
vladdypwnzCool I'll try it out, thanks man22:18
avisthe denisty of ubuntu users often make it hard to find22:18
Pen16Well, is there anyone interested22:19
jpmutvladdypwnz, it will also tell you which is Windows (ntfs/fat) or Linux (ext3/4)22:19
vladdypwnzOh wow it's a default utility huh22:19
vladdypwnzSilly me22:20
DasEiljhr05: give me a minute, I recently found something on gma500 on the wiki, have to find it back22:20
ActionPa1snipavis: you can run the command from terminal if you want but when you close the terminal, it will switch back22:20
jpmutvladdypwnz, yeah! ;)22:20
leakysude dmole http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=T56bLeqE22:21
leakythat's shut down / reboot now22:21
leakythe*22:21
consolecowboyi've got the latest bios version - hasn't been updated since '08. the monitor goes blank when i close the lid, so it seems to be properly recognising the event22:21
consolecowboyjust not suspending22:22
DasEiljhr05: http://tinyurl.com/5towcxo22:22
ljhr05DasEi, oh..let me see22:22
nighmihello, I lost the maximize and quit buttons in Unity for all windows that are not in fullscreen mode... any way to get them back?22:23
DasEiljhr05: all over that's not the best have for linux, but for desktop it works22:23
ljhr05DasEi, well Im using XFCE .. xubuntu 11.04 xD22:23
DasEiljhr05: so be lucky22:24
Pen16hey im lookin for some help on unziping multiple files into their rexpective folders22:25
Pen16*respective22:25
ljhr05DasEi, yeah..thanks for all22:25
vladdypwnzHow do you access windows of, say, Chrome that are already opened? (other than alt+tab) ?22:26
vladdypwnzClicking the icon again just launches a new instance22:26
Pen16am i in the wrong chat room, is there one for help spicifically22:27
jpmutvladdypwnz, taskbar?22:28
deneshi! in 10.10, i have ati fglrx on RS880 [Radeon HD 4250] [1002:9715] and when i start google earth, the textures are very "noisy" (original content unvisible, colorful/mostly yellowish stripes and things) often but not allways. how could i fix it?22:28
vladdypwnzErrr... I have ubuntu 11 and it only has the huge bar on the left with icons in it to launch but I see no task bar22:28
DasEiPen16: this is ubuntu-specific help here, what format are the files compressed in ?22:28
Pen16.zip22:29
DasEivladdypwnz: thaT#s unitiy default, if you don't like it, can :22:29
rcconfhow can I know when kernel was upgraded?22:29
DasEi!classic22:29
rcconftks22:29
ubottuThe default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".22:29
_ohmIf I compile software from source but the environment are not completely correct, can I just change the environment variables after the installation and everything will be correct or do I have to recompile?22:29
vladdypwnzWell I do like it. Is it possible ot have a task bar AND the unity look?22:30
DasEiPen16: so use unzip or p7zip-full to inflate them22:30
brown_fernPen16: I am only a novice but I don't know of a way to do what you're want within the conventions of the "tar" command, I'd try the #bash channel if you can't be helped here.22:30
jpmutvladdypwnz, I still have ubuntu 10.04 so this may not work for you. Right click on the bar and "add new item"... search and add "Task List"22:31
VICODANsup22:31
VICODANgot 10.04 mostly working22:31
bsmith093quick ethics question, I recently saved two laptops from garage sale limbo, and when i powered them up, the guy hadn't wiped the drives, so i spent the next 10 hours recovering the data off these two laptops, one of which had a ethernet port, but with win 95 ans the other didn't even have that. eventually i just gave up, figured he wouldn't want the machines back, and gutted them for the drives, stuck them in a ide sta usb contraptio22:31
VICODANtrying to do some compiz and gnome tweaking now22:31
VICODANhow do you create shortcuts on the desktop?22:31
VICODANlike im trying to create a shortcut to terminal on the desktoip22:31
vladdypwnzjpmut, doesn't seem to do anything for me. Oh well22:31
VICODANi guess application in termal -> bash works22:32
DasEibsmith093: ethics ? #ubuntu-offtopic22:32
_ohmVICODAN, Right click and Create Launcher doesn't work?22:32
bsmith093right then sorry22:32
VICODAN_ohm: i was doing application not application in terminal with command bash22:32
VICODAN_ohm: once I set it to application in terminal it works22:33
_ohmVicodan, would you mind telling me your problem again?22:33
rlyIs there some kind of default firewall besides ufw?22:33
VICODANwell i was trying to create a shortcut to terminal on the desktop22:34
rlySomething is blocking traffic.22:34
VICODANi fixed it22:34
rypervencherly: gufw if you want a GUI, why would you want a different one?22:34
VICODANi was doing create laucher -> application -> command = bash which wasnt working22:34
VICODANso i just did create laucher -> application in terminal -> command = bash22:34
VICODANthat works22:34
randolph`:D22:34
DasEirly:there are other fw's you can install or-the hard way- set up iptables manually22:34
_ohmvicodan, try having the command as xterm22:34
rlyrypervenche: that is obviously not what I meant.22:35
VICODANxterm? why?22:35
rlyI want no firewall at all.22:35
_ohmvicodan, or the ubuntu terminal program22:35
nagis it common to notice massive performance regressions after upgrading to 11.04 using Xfce?22:35
rypervencherly: I don't believe Ubuntu uses one by default.22:35
VICODANthey both seem to work the same22:35
rlyrypervenche: right, neither do I.22:35
_ohmvicodan, having something call bash doesn't seem like a good idea to me22:35
VICODANactually when i use xterm it comes up with a white window22:35
DasEirly: use iptables command to flush it then (sudo iptables -F)22:36
VICODANwhen i use bash it comes up in a purple window like the terminal laucher installed in the default menu22:36
wezeus#bash.org.pl22:36
disappearedng_Anyone knows why gvfs-trash doesn't work for mounted partitions? (22:36
DasEirypervenche: ufw there is, but not enableb by default as far I know22:36
_ohmvicodan, yeah, I'm not entirely sure what ubuntu's terminal is, try x-terminal-emulator as your command22:37
VICODANnow what im wondering is why does the window launch in the bottom left everytime i open it22:37
randolph`gnome-terminal opens the default ubuntu terminal22:38
VICODANyes that works randolph22:38
randolph`:D22:39
VICODANstill question is why does it open in the bottom left of the screen every time22:39
_ohmIf I compile software from source but the environment are not completely correct, can I just change the environment variables after the installation and everything will be correct or do I have to recompile? My problem is basically this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57804822:41
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: try moving it then hold CTRL+SHIFT and close it, then reopen to test22:41
VICODANActionPa1snip: doesnt work22:41
randolph`im not sure _ohm but the people in #gentoo know a lot about compiling22:42
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: if you use terminal a lot, have you considered using guake22:42
VICODANno22:42
VICODANwhat's guake22:42
VICODANand yes i use terminal a lot22:42
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: youtube have sonme nice vids to explain it22:42
escottVICODAN, ever played quake?22:42
VICODANlol yes22:42
VICODANback in the day22:42
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: remember the terminal in quake?22:43
escottVICODAN, its the quake terminal (~) but with a linux terminal and F1222:43
VICODANplayed wolfenstein and doom as well22:43
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: its like that :D22:43
VICODANActionPa1snip: kind of22:43
VICODANgoogling now22:43
rypervencheActionPa1snip: Is there anything like guake for Xfce?22:43
* VICODAN is a fedora 14 fanboy trying to give ubuntu 11.04 a chance since he hates fedora15 22:44
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: vids will explain better, you can show and hide a terminal with a shortcut key. F12 is default but I use F1 personally22:44
escottVICODAN, you press F12 it drops down, you press again it receeds22:44
VICODANnice22:44
escottrypervenche, you could run guake with XFCE the requirements are pretty minimal (the gtk vte library) its actually a python program22:45
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ActionPa1snipVICODAN: kde has yakuake22:45
VICODANi dont believe in kde22:45
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: tilda is a lightweight version of both22:46
VICODANactionpalsnip: it's either gnome+compiz or xfce for me22:47
Algorithis there a way to make an Impress file in presentation mode appear in the alt+tab list?22:47
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: LXDE + openbox here22:47
VICODANActionPa1snip: can you run compiz on LXDE22:47
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: sure, why not22:47
VICODANwithout spending 2 hours trying to get it work?22:48
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: i've seen vids of people do it. I dont like compiz22:48
VICODANActionPalsnip: I like it. I like turning on animations and randomizing all the effects on minimizing/maximizing windows, i like the desktop cube and rotations and a bunch of other things22:49
MGCookiehello all, im looking for a distro that will work with skype on a eeepc. any thoughts or ideas?22:49
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ActionPa1snipVICODAN: causes a lot of issues for very little gain here. I like fast and sleek :)22:50
Logan_!botattack22:50
ubottuThe above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.22:50
VICODANActionPalsnip: I'm running an AMD Radeon 577022:51
VICODANthere's no issues here22:51
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: my nvidia 6150 can handle it fine, i just choose not to22:51
VICODANActionPalsnip: fair enough.22:52
VICODANit was hard enough to get the official AMD ATI driver working22:52
HelloWorld321When setting up WiNE, the default emulation mode is Windows XP.  Is there any reason not to use Windows 7 emulation mode?22:53
abojephi, I have just installed the xfce desktop and I can't get the sound to work. The card is external and shows up in 'Sound Preferences', any advice?22:54
jaduwalaam I in chat room now? (sorry new to irs and this client here)22:55
VICODANjaduwala: yes, hi22:55
DasEi!support | jaduwala, and welcome22:55
ubottujaduwala, and welcome: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com22:55
ActionPa1snipVICODAN: i only buy nvidia. They have supported linux for as long as i've used linux22:55
palhmbswhere does the xorg.conf live ?22:55
jaduwalaHi, And thanks VICODAN22:55
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VICODANActionPalsnip: i only buy AMD22:56
VICODANand when I say AMD I mean ATI too.22:56
VICODANpalmje_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:56
VICODANoops22:56
VICODANpalhmbs*22:56
jaduwalaAny tutorial on IRC, I dont even know how to register at freenode so that I get same id evertime. Been using Yahoo messenger al my life to chat22:57
Smashcatanyone here had problems returning hardware that's not supported by linux (when the manufacturr22:57
Smashcat..er claims it is?22:57
ActionPa1snipjaduwala: ask in #freenode for help on registering22:57
VICODANjaduwala join #freenode22:58
jaduwalaOh Great and Stupid of me not to have thought that22:58
ActionPa1snipSmashcat: say it's not suitable for the purpose , works in the UK. Depends on local laws22:58
ActionPa1snipjaduwala: not stupid, you just didn't know. But now you do so it's all good :)22:58
DasEijaduwala: feel free to pm me , I got helped in here once, too22:59
SmashcatActionPalsnip: Yeah, thought it'd be ok - it's a wireless PCI card, although it "works" as in linux can see it and it connects, it's unusable due to it dropping connection constantly. Works fine under windows ofc. Ebuyer claim it's working ok so won't refund22:59
ActionPa1snipSmashcat: when it drops connection, run:  dmesg | tail    what is output?23:01
SmashcatI just wish manufacturers would either fully support hardware under linux, or state categorically that is does not work under linux. I'd never have bought it if they hadn't lied23:01
SmashcatActionPalsnip - no errors, it just constantly connects, disconnects.  (well it did, it's no longer here until ebuyer return it)23:02
ActionPa1snipSmashcat: did you try disabling ipv6? Did you try a different channel?23:03
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SmashcatActionPalsnip - yep, and yep. Believe me, tried everything. It would connect and work for a maximum of 1 minute at a time. Then drop connection and reconnect.23:04
SnakkahHow do I get text color in XChat to properly be displayed in other clients like mIRC? I tried asking the XChat people but didn't get a response. :/23:04
ActionPa1snipSmashcat: when it drops, dmesg says nothing extra at all?23:05
SmashcatActionPalsnip: Under Windows it worked flawlessly with the exact same settings in the same PC. I suspect crappy drivers for linux23:05
ActionPa1snipSnakkah: i'd ask in the mirc channel23:05
SnakkahActionPa1snip, are they active?23:05
toenail I'm using Ubuntu, but I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a room with users of the presonus firepod. If none know about that, maybe even an Intel Chipset help room.23:05
ActionPa1snipSnakkah: not sure. I dont use mirc. Don't see the point23:05
SmashcatActionPalsnip: No, as I say it's not here atm - but there was nothing in dmesg - just the usual logs about connecting etc.23:05
toenailThe good old PC thinks my Firewire port is a usb port.23:06
SmashcatActionPalsnip: So basically avoid anything using the Ralink 3062 chipset in 11.0423:06
DasEitoenail: I never heard about presonus, but you could use lshw or such to gather info, also there is #hardware23:08
toenailok thanks23:08
toenailThat channels invite only23:09
NikroAnyone knows a workaround for a fullscreen flash player experience with dual screen? Flash player appears only on the primary screen and althou' it is fullscreen, the image itself stretches only to smaller screen resolution..23:10
rwwtoenail: 1) it's ##hardware, 2) you need to identify to nickserv to get in there23:10
DasEi!register | toenail23:10
rww!register23:10
ubottutoenail: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode23:10
toenailit's been a long time sense I used Xchat23:12
toenailYay Im a n00b again23:12
harushimoquestion23:15
Short1is there a distro that's compatible with both intel mac and also PPC mac?23:15
harushimois a there way I can physically go inside newly created user account23:15
harushimoi know there is a command on the terminal? I can't remember23:16
SpektreiiHaraken, sudo su - <username>23:16
Spektreiierr23:16
Spektreiiharushimo, sudo su - <username>23:16
ActionPa1snipShort1: many distros support PPC, Puppy for example23:16
DasEiharushimo: depends on config, or root can do23:16
Shoogyis there someone that can help me get my linux set up correctly23:16
ShoogyI am kinda new to this23:16
ActionPa1snipSpektreii: to switch user, you just need:  su name23:16
Shoogyand all the graphics look like they are running in safe mode23:17
DasEiShoogy: sure, which distro ?23:17
harushimoI used that23:17
Shoogyubuntu23:17
harushimoI want to be that user23:17
ShoogyStandard Ubuntu23:17
etharooniHey people.  I have a problem.  I tried to change the window style in xubuntu, and now it doesn't let me log in.  I can only use the "recovery console."23:17
SpektreiiActionPa1snip, the - ensures that you load the .bashrc and .profile so you become the user rather than sudo the user.23:17
DasEiShoogy: lsb_release -a23:17
etharooniis there a way to change the window style from the command line?23:17
DasEiShoogy: natty ?23:17
Short1Action Pa1snip:  it looks like i will have to use my MBP to install to this drive, and then put the drive in the PPC and hopefully have it work23:17
Guest54792woof23:17
etharooni...Or turn off the window style and go to a graphic-safe mode or something?23:18
harushimoeverytime I do an ls, it shows my files and directories23:18
harushimonot the users23:18
VICODANhey ActionPalsnip you still there?23:19
canthiswaithas anyone stepped up to get projectM in Ubuntu? those visualizations are fantastic23:19
Guest54792where do i find the dos prompt23:19
thiebaudelol23:19
thiebaude:)23:20
G00053Guest54792: ctrl + alt + t23:20
VICODANprojectM?23:20
VICODANbetter than compiz?23:20
VICODANnever heard of it23:20
escottharushimo, it may not change your current working directory, although a true login shell should. you could do bash --login to force a login shell23:20
canthiswaitVICODAN, it's like MilkDrop from Windows23:20
thiebaude!terminal23:20
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:20
VICODANoh23:20
VICODANbut wouldnt you need a music player for that canthiswait23:20
canthiswaitVICODAN, it's actually supposed to support milkdrop files too23:21
harushimoescott: that exactly what I want to do23:21
VICODANnice23:21
VICODANim still trying to get the OS working at the moment :P23:21
harushimoescott: I want to see what directories and files are for specific user23:21
canthiswaitVICODAN, yeah it just plugs in to an audio stream so technically it can be used with any player23:21
VICODANnice23:22
VICODANwhat mp3 player you use?23:22
VICODANit seems like "banshee" is the default in ubuntu23:22
escottharushimo, well you don't have to be that person to find that out, you can read the permissions off of ls -l23:22
VICODANor whatever it's called23:22
harushimoescott: what if I want to dump a file in that user's directory?23:23
G00053VICODAN:  i came from windows and loved winamp , i've settled on Banshee . gnome mplayer is also pretty good23:23
VICODANif you're a winamp person and you settled on banshee that's a good enough comparison for me23:24
escottharushimo, usually their home would be /home/username (you can confirm by inspecting /etc/passwd) and you can just create a file in their directory. you may need to chown it to them so they can access it fully23:24
harushimoescott: how would I do it with a chown23:24
etharoonisorry, the terminal wouldn't let me open up stuff so I can't tell if anybody responded.  But I got it working.23:24
escottharushimo, chown username:usergroup filename you may not be able to do that in which case you may need to sudo chown23:25
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JonathanWanker[** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   pr0ton Akuma bhrams dim_ paranoidi Tr0gd0r lrvick nixusr Skaperen Paranoid_ dTheta guampa raven_ Fireblasto PascalFR Sunloung kthakore Spektreii skegeek ma23:26
spliffi#ubuntufr /j23:26
VICODANwow that looks annoying23:26
IdleOnespliffi: /join #ubuntu-fr23:26
spy1080brother c puede conectar al canal del msn por irc23:27
mark7845whats that all about SASL23:27
ralfHallo ist da jemand23:27
billy_can anyone help everything ive tried to download recently go's at a snails pace could this be the ubuntu server?23:27
Thehelpfulonemark7845: it's spam23:27
skegeekDarn it! I just can't seem to get rid of EHCP.23:27
IdleOne!es | spy108023:27
ubottuspy1080: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.23:27
mark7845Thehelpfulone: ty :)23:27
IdleOnemark7845: it is spam, never mind it23:27
Thehelpfuloneno problem :)23:27
G00053IdleOne: spam in the sense that it's not true or just annoying ?23:28
ShoogyI am back23:28
G00053or both i guess23:28
escottthats not spanish... maybe dutch?23:28
IdleOneG00053: if it were true freenode staff would not spam23:28
G00053fair enough23:29
escott!de | Ralfm23:29
ubottuRalfm: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.23:29
escottnevermind he left sorry Ralfm23:29
bjorn_248is this SASL stuff real? or just a scam23:29
IdleOne!botattack23:29
ubottuThe above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.23:29
bjorn_248alright23:30
bjorn_248I can't connect to freenode while on my phone's network though, and I always get that message about SASL23:30
VICODANguake is pretty neat23:31
billy_can anyone help everything ive tried to download recently go's at a snails pace could this be the ubuntu server?23:31
VICODANthanks23:31
G00053billy , downloading form where ?23:31
korale_I'm trying to find a way to upgrade a locally (via apt-get) installed version of boost. How do I go about either building packages for it or finding already built packages?23:31
billy_the ubuntu servers either through the terminal or software centre23:31
VICODANwhere did ActionPa1snip go23:32
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billy_G00053, the ubuntu servers either through the terminal or software centre23:33
G00053billy_:  have you tried other sources to test ?23:33
escottkorale_, there isn't a terribly good way to do this. you could try installing a version of boost specific to the next version of ubuntu, or from the debian testing but you risk breaking applications that depend on boost23:34
billy_all videos are loading quickly on the interne ill try a download quick23:34
escottbilly_, synaptic has a mirror selection tool23:34
billy_downlaods from the internet are slow aswell but everthing else i.e videos loading of page is quick23:37
ZiauddinMKHello23:37
pnemahey, I installed an app that uses a library in /usr/local/lib but it doesn't find it. How do you configure your environment to add a library path?23:37
VICODANbilly_: goto www.speedtest.net23:37
VICODANand run a test23:37
ZiauddinMK Here goes the update on my work http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249406_1765560375009_1119122224_31475302_3086459_n.jpg , arms need work. , please give me critique on this, I need crit so much!23:37
VICODANsee what you're speed is23:37
billy_VICODAN, doing it now23:38
IdleOne!ot | ZiauddinMK23:38
ubottuZiauddinMK: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:38
VICODANZiauddinMK: can you tinyurl that please23:38
IdleOneVICODAN: it's OT anyway.23:38
VICODANword23:38
ZiauddinMK=[23:39
VICODANwtf are you pasting anyway23:39
billy_VICODAN, 2mbps downlaod speed but im getting about 4kbps23:40
VICODANbilly_: speedtest.net says 2mbps?23:40
VICODANwho's your isp23:40
VICODANwhere are you located23:40
VICODANUK?23:40
korale_escott: yeah, ok. I think what may be best is to look at any installed packages that depend on the boost package, uninstall it and install the latest by hand from the site. Thanks anywa!23:40
billy_england and sorry but  i aint iving you my isp23:40
VICODANi already got your isp23:40
VICODANthreembb.co.uk23:41
billy_sorry i thought you said ip23:41
VICODANi got that too23:41
VICODAN94.196.214.2423:41
escottbilly_, thats public info in irc23:41
VICODANdont be so paranoid on an irc help channel23:41
IdleOnebilly_: /whois billy_23:41
VICODANlol23:41
VICODANi think he just shat bricks23:42
billy_VICODAN, apparently that page dosnt exist23:42
VICODAN*facepalm*23:42
VICODANthat's your IP address23:42
VICODANFYI23:42
VICODANanyways23:42
VICODANwhat's your original problem23:42
VICODANyour downloads are going 4kbps?23:43
billy_yeah real slow an i dont really care if you canb get it anyway it obviously dosnt matter23:43
VICODANvideos load fine23:43
VICODANdownloads are slow23:43
VICODANcorrect?23:43
VICODANand you just went to speedtest.net and it said 2mbps down?23:43
IdleOneVICODAN: less ENTER, more content :)23:43
VICODANIdleOne: sorry23:44
IdleOneno worries23:44
VICODANIdleOne: too much dexedrine23:44
billy_VICODAN, yep thats it23:44
VICODANbilly_: where are you trying to download from that you are getting 4kbps?23:44
billy_software centre the terminal and internet but like that test said i have at least 2mbps23:45
escottbilly_, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-select-fastest-mirror-in-ubuntu.html23:45
VICODANso anywhere you download anything from you get 4kbps??23:45
VICODANim confused23:45
escottbilly_, the isp wants speedtest to look good so they make sure the speedtest servers are close to their network to ensure that random people who use it see good numbers. to other parts of the internet it may be slower. just pick your closest uk server and see if it gets better23:47
VICODANescott: not necessarily true if you're using speedtest.net23:47
billy_im testing all servers available now to find the fastest23:47
VICODANlike covad will use speakeasy because they own speakeasy23:47
VICODANbut it still wont make them look any better23:47
tsikhtroniasfrom greece?23:49
VICODAN2mbps is a pretty terrible down speed to begin with23:49
VICODANim also wondering what your upspeed is as well23:49
VICODANbecause that can affect your download rate23:50
tsikhtroniasanyone from greece?23:50
VICODANno23:51
VICODANwhy23:51
escotttsikhtronias, do you need a greek speaking channel?23:51
bullgard4Why does on a new computer Tilda  not show the »Monospace 6« font as wide as on my old computer having the same vertical pixel number and the same display screen height? http:/paste.ubuntu.com/62548823:51
tsikhtroniasyes please23:51
escottbullgard4, dpi?23:51
escott!gr23:52
ubottu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes23:52
bullgard4escott: If the dpi differ, the font's height would differ. But they do not.23:52
bullgard4s/height/heights/23:53
escottbullgard4, have you compared screenshots at a pixel by pixel level?23:57
VICODANokay my turn for a question now23:57
VICODANhow do i change the location of the unity dock23:58
bullgard4escott: No. It is my visual impression. And the difference is so large, that everybody would see it easily.23:58
VICODANand the taskbar itself23:58
grubnwbI have a problem right when my computer is about to load grub it shuts down.23:58
VICODANit's really annoying having those bars on the left and the top23:58
semeionwhy ops have floodbot nickname?23:58
bullgard4¹grub | grubnwb23:59
bullgard4!grub | grubnwb23:59
ubottugrubnwb: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)23:59

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