[00:00] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, ubuntu is an os
[00:00] <Johhnnyyy_B> os?
[00:00] <escott> talbert, in that case I would just use network manager and click on disable network if you dont have a gui try nm-tool
[00:00] <Airris> anyone for what i was saying? each time my friend has tried to remove something manually it's corrupted things. I'd... prefer not to do that :P
[00:00] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, more specifically it's an opensource linux/gnu distribution
[00:01] <lapaga> Johhnnyyy_B, it is not a program it is a whole OS like mac or windows
[00:01] <mediawork> rinkukokiri: according to this my phenom is constantly above critical temp... AMD Phenom X4 (9550, 9650) 	70°C
[00:01] <Johhnnyyy_B> Okay well, I dont have one of those big white macs or ... windows, I think i have that
[00:01] <talbert> escott, 'nm-tool'? not familiar with that one. i'll look it up.
[00:01] <ancientpc> hey guys, I have a problem resuming a network upgrade
[00:01] <Johhnnyyy_B> Idk, i think i seen windows isstalled, isnt that the thing that plays when i turn on the hunk of junk?
[00:02] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, ubuntu can be install along side windows, within windows, or vise versa
[00:02] <aguitel> talbert, both
[00:02] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, Alright, So like... okay, you keep telling me words I dont know >.<
[00:02] <ancientpc> I ssh'ed into a server and ran screen(byobu) running 10.04 to upgrade to 10.10.  Halfway through the setup (at samba comfiguration window) I lost connection.  When I log back in I can't see the setup windows anymore but I can still see it via ps aux | grep root, and there are locks.
[00:02] <escott> talbert, but really ifconfig down should be enough to make sure no traffic is sent across that. its just that networkmanager may not play nice and bring the interface back up
[00:02] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, whats an os? a opensause linux/gn something disribution?
[00:03] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, and windows is the little 4 collored thing that shows when I turn the computer on right?
[00:03] <Johhnnyyy_B> Thats also on the start button.
[00:03] <escott> ancientpc, screen -list
[00:03] <Johhnnyyy_B> Wait, isnt that microsoft?
[00:03] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, os- operating system i.e. Windows, Mac OS X, etc.
[00:03] <rinkukokiri> best way to check cpu temp??
[00:03] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, So its a computer right? Macs are computer. Thats about the only thing there i recognise
[00:04] <ancientpc> Anybody know how to resume a network upgrade that's at configuration windows?  Am I safe killing the process and running `dpkg --configure -a` or should I reboot the server?  Please keep in mind I'm 3000 mi away from the server right now.
[00:04] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, not exactly.
[00:04] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, a computer is hardware.
[00:04] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, an os is software.
[00:04] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, Yea cus you can touch it
[00:04] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, okay, so its software, like a program?
[00:04] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, yes.
[00:04] <lapaga> am thinking he is trolling
[00:05] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, So, how do i install it?
[00:05] <escott> ancientpc, screen -r
[00:05] <Airris> lapaga : i was about to say as much. Either that or he's never going to get through the install process anyways, so it's not worth bothering
[00:05] <Johhnnyyy_B> lapaga, Whoa whoa dude, play er cool. I aint from 4chan so no worries.
[00:06] <Johhnnyyy_B> lapaga, I'm just tryin to install this program, i didnt know how, so jeff told me go to xchat , freenode server , and type in the /join thing
[00:06] <eamon> how do you install programs "make && make install" right? Or is there some configure of something before it? I can't remmeber
[00:06] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, So that is my question that i said, how do i install it?
[00:06] <OerHeks> !compile
[00:06] <arckeyde> Hello
[00:07] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, dude? still there?
[00:07] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, hold on a sec
[00:07] <Johhnnyyy_B> Alright, thanks man
[00:07] <FireStorms> I'm having some trouble with my windows manager. I have to type metacity --replace every time I login. Is there a way to set it to default?
[00:07] <arckeyde> Hackintech ?
[00:07] <eamon> it's ./configure first right?
[00:07] <Hackintech> hello?
[00:07] <eamon> does anyone know?
[00:07] <arckeyde> Hello
[00:07] <arckeyde> how are you ?
[00:07] <Airris> but seriously, can anyone help with figuring out how to remove something not in synaptic? I'm torn between two bad ideas : either trying to go into bin with root access and remove whatever looks like it belongs to this thing : or install the same thing from source over again with check install and hope it just overwrites and then i can remove it through synaptic that way.
[00:08] <escott> Airris, make uninstall is best if you installed via make install
[00:08] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[00:09] <Airris> escott, it looks like the folder i installed it from is gone, which is the problem
[00:09] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, Alright dude, So this program thing, whats it do? my buds computer lookeed sweet, is that what it dose?
[00:09] <unixclubhouse> that may or may not work, look at the script
[00:09] <escott> Airris, if you can download the original tarball you can ./configure it again and then make uninstall
[00:09] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, i was alredy there, i pressed download and got the thing... now what do i do, i cliked on it, it wont run
[00:09] <Airris> escott, thanks : going with that then :D
[00:09] <talbert> Johhnnyyy_B, it's a program. windows is just a program that is used by a computer too.
[00:10] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, yea but like, how do i make it run
[00:10] <escott> Airris, if that doesn't work I would manually cleanup prior to trying to install through apt, otherwise you won't know which files are apts and which are the old manual installs
[00:10] <talbert> Johhnny_B, follow the instructions on that page. read a lot on wikis too.
[00:10] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, you know when you download things like ... uh whats it called, nortin or whatever the hell i payed 50 bucks for, it ran when i clicked on it
[00:10] <Airris> escott, i'm hoping the first thing will work, but any guidelines on manually cleaning up? Where am i looking other than bin?
[00:10] <Johhnnyyy_B> talbert, ahh, inscrutions... they are for wimps and women man.
[00:11] <meway> What is the command to rename from terminal Every fille at once
[00:11] <meway> I want to take the extention .example off of the file names
[00:11] <rinkukokiri> Johhnnyyy_B, aaah norton.. the epitome of horrible applications
[00:11] <talbert> Johhnny_B, it seems like you're fairly inexperienced with this stuff. so am i but i'm trying to contribute just like everyone else.
[00:11] <escott> Airris, what program was this? also after make you should see a rudimentary structure of what it would place in your folders and you can locate those files and remove them
[00:11] <Fretta> whats a good remote backup tool to use for ubuntu lucid server?
[00:11] <Johhnnyyy_B> alright, well ill read em, peace
[00:12] <Airris> escott, wesnoth :P It's not updated in launchpad after release, so when a new version comes out, time to compile from source. and I see. downloading the tarball now
[00:12] <pfifo> Fretta, i think rsync over ssh will take care of everything for you
[00:12] <NictraSavios> Hey Hackintech , your on?!
[00:12] <Airris> will find out how much i can do when it finishes
[00:12] <Hackintech> :)
[00:12] <NictraSavios> I was i #archlinux all day man :P
[00:12] <escott> !backup | Fretta
[00:12] <Fretta> pfifo yeah am thinking of using rsync thnx for the tip
[00:13] <Fretta> ubottu thnx for those links will check these
[00:13] <Fretta> hehe
[00:13] <NictraSavios> Hackintech, Sadly i need to reinstall. I screwed it up with kde
[00:13] <pfifo> Fretta, those are probbally all gui front ends fr rsync ;)
[00:13] <Hackintech> lol NictraSavios
[00:14] <escott> Airris, in that case most of its resources will be in /usr/share/games with a few icons in /usr/share/icons and some other random desktop places. if you fail to remove it completely you may end up with some extra startup menu items for it
[00:14] <bezao> hi, i have an ubuntu-server under a vbox, and i formated my windows. now i added the ubuntu vbox again and, when i start up the ubuntu, it doesnt know the eth0. i have it on mode bridge.
[00:15] <talbert> bezao, wouldn't you want it on "gateway"
[00:16] <bezao> i didn not udnerstood sorry
[00:17] <Airris> Ok. really hoping that make uninstall works but I know where to look if it doesn't, thanks
[00:17] <talbert> bezao, is there a reason you are using server edition?
[00:17] <bezao> yes i run test services there, the i put on production ubuntu server
[00:18] <talbert> bezao, wireless or ethernet?
[00:18] <bezao> ethernet
[00:18] <bezao> i saw it with ifconfig-a, it's named eth1
[00:18] <bezao> how can i make it back to eth0 to work, or make it work as eth1
[00:20] <Airris> oh, one side question. the package files checkinstall makes. Is saving them sufficient to be able to uninstall later, or do i have to keep the whole source folder?
[00:20] <Goliath> hey
[00:20] <Maylow> goodbye folks
[00:21] <Goliath> if i get a 64bit version of ubuntu and try to run it at a 32bit processor pc, does it freeze?
[00:21] <Airris> Goliath : most likely
[00:21] <escott> Goliath, it wont boot
[00:21] <pfifo> bezao, im pretty use there is options for upto 4 different NIC cards in the settings dialouge, it looks like since you reinstalled windows it setup a new eth1 and left the eth0 in place.
[00:21] <rinkukokiri> Goliath, only processors that are only 32 bit are like.. old pentium 4's and prior
[00:22] <Darkenvy> Cannot display location "sftp://admin@fathership.dynalias.com/" Host key verification failed
[00:22] <pfifo> bezao, im pretty SURE there is options for upto 4 different NIC cards in the settings dialouge, it looks like since you reinstalled windows it setup a new eth1 and left the OLD eth0 in place.
[00:22] <Airris> rinkukokiri, there's a lot of those still around... :D
[00:22] <Darkenvy> I get that when trying to ssh from the "connect to server" tool
[00:22] <Darkenvy> although filzilla can connect no problem
[00:22] <rinkukokiri> Airris, well i better get on my mission of fryin em all :D
[00:23] <escott> Darkenvy, do a normal ssh connect on the command line. the host key may have changed
[00:23] <Darkenvy> how can I purge the key?
[00:23] <Darkenvy> I am connecting this way SO I have a visual
[00:23] <lolmatic> what up chumps
[00:23] <Airris> rinkukokiri, there's still uses for them! I'm collecting ones people have gotten rid of for a beowulf ^_^
[00:23] <Darkenvy> I am always SSHed form terminal but I want the visualness
[00:23] <SolomonKull> Darkenvy: rm .ssh/somewhereraskeyisnamed/tehfile  look for that
[00:23] <escott> Darkenvy, just ssh admin@fathership... and it will give you a nasty warning if the remotes ssh key has changed
[00:23] <rinkukokiri> lol
[00:24] <Darkenvy> escott it does not give me a warning ata ll
[00:24] <NictraSavios> Oh
[00:24] <NictraSavios> I forgot
[00:24] <rinkukokiri> well guise, off to minecraft.. hopefully i don't lock up again
[00:24] <NictraSavios> I came in here to find Jonny, Did johnb come in here?
[00:24] <escott> Darkenvy, ok so what does it say then
[00:24] <NictraSavios> or johnyb , whatever username
[00:24] <Darkenvy> but I find it odd because filezilla can connect, my macbook can connect and on my old VPS I could connect using this method, but not from this computer now
[00:25] <Darkenvy> escott it says nothing and I can connect no problem while SSH from terminal
[00:25] <Airris> NictraSavios, he left already
[00:25] <SolomonKull> Darkenvy: rm .ssh/known_hosts
[00:25] <SolomonKull> Then try to log back in
[00:25] <SolomonKull> It will generate a new key
[00:26] <Darkenvy> this worked!
[00:26] <Darkenvy> what happened btw?
[00:26] <NictraSavios> Airris, Dang it... my friend told him about ubuntu, then he asked me for help, I said go here, Now Idk what hes doing.
[00:26] <Darkenvy> I am able to sftp on the gui if I put in the IP but not the dynamic alias
[00:26] <Darkenvy> *was able to only log in using the IP, not the dynamic alias
[00:26] <NictraSavios> Airris, Did anyone tell him off or anything? I want to know before i call him lmao. So I know if hes ticked.
[00:27] <Airris> NictraSavios, ...maybe? We tried to help him for a while then i think the guy helping gave up, and two of us were wondering if he's a troll :P
[00:27] <escott> Darkenvy, maybe sftp has its own directory try .sftp?
[00:27] <SolomonKull> Darkenvy: is it a local IP?  I bet DHCP assigned a different IP than last time, which triggered ssh to say "hold the hell on, this might be a different system. Fix it"
[00:27] <pfifo> Darkenvy, you should learn to just use scp rsync and ssh from cli, save your self headaches, and become a bit more elite in the4 process
[00:27] <escott> Darkenvy, thats because it doesnt reverse dns the ip so it doesn't realize they are the same host
[00:28] <Darkenvy> woah lots of replies
[00:28] <Darkenvy> okay first off I KNOW how to push and pull from terminal
[00:28] <Darkenvy> secondly, I use that daily. but seeing my minecraft server visually with thousands of files is a luxery
[00:28] <NictraSavios> Airris, No... Hes just stupid.
[00:29] <Darkenvy> 2ply toilet paper > 1ply sandpaper
[00:29] <Airris> NictraSavios, :D
[00:29] <Darkenvy> simple math :)
[00:29] <NictraSavios> Airris, Im on the phone with him. He still thinks its like an .exe
[00:29] <lapaga> and also the same ip
[00:29] <rhin0> .exe's don't run natively
[00:29] <Darkenvy> and ah yes escott that seems to be why
[00:30] <rhin0> they're 'elf'
[00:30] <rhin0> binaries
[00:30] <NictraSavios> rhin0 Hes on windows, trying to install ubuntu. He thinks its a program
[00:30] <pfifo> NictraSavios, careful hes obivously having trouble adapting, If you dont handle it right you may push him away from ubuntu
[00:30] <escott> Darkenvy, I think the problem is with whatever gui you are using for sftp. it must be caching the key wrong/maybe not realizing this is a dynamic dns host
[00:30] <rhin0> maybe you should show him windows running within openbox on ubuntu NictraSavios
[00:30] <Darkenvy> its fine now though
[00:30] <Darkenvy> thanks escott
[00:31]  * Darkenvy leaves
[00:31] <escott> Darkenvy, if it happens again see if you can use the sftp command line tool, but ssh doesn't mind dyndns
[00:32] <NictraSavios> Hes that kid thats almost in the "special" person class, but he stayed out by 1-2 IQ points.
[00:32] <NictraSavios> So it wont be easy.
[00:32] <NictraSavios> :P
[00:33] <pfifo> wow this is the weirdest thing ever, my system refuses to use memory thats available
[00:35] <rinkukokiri> lol playing minecraft my gpu goes from mid 60's to 96
[00:35] <bAdLuCk> lol
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> rinkukokiri: same
[00:36] <pfifo> rinkukokiri, frame limit
[00:36] <rinkukokiri> not worried about it, my gpu is rated past 120
[00:36]  * pfifo gpu is rated over 9000
[00:37] <rinkukokiri> and as long as my cpu don't get around 100 im fine
[00:37] <bAdLuCk> minecraft can get crazy like that sometimes haha
[00:38] <pfifo> i wonder how bad it will chrash xbawks
[00:38] <rinkukokiri> instant rrod
[00:38] <bAdLuCk> lol
[00:39] <pfifo> mv minecraft.jar rrod-creator.jar
[00:39] <intel_ix> Does anyone know how to get open CL configured for ati 6950, on ubuntu 10.10?
[00:40] <pfifo> intel_ix, first get HW acceleration working, then opencl sould 'just work'
[00:40] <intel_ix> Seems the proprietary driver is in "compatibility mode" and isn't loading it, how would I go about that?
[00:40] <pfifo> !ati | intel_ix
[00:42] <Core_UK> Is there a bug with 11.04 and nvidia geforce 8800gts drivers?
[00:42] <intel_ix> I end up getting "ATI Technologies Inc Device 6719", is this normal considering I bought a supposedly 6950?
[00:43] <pfifo> Core_UK, yes
[00:44] <KimLaroux> Core_UK, why do you ask? do you have problems?
[00:45] <Core_UK> KimLaroux: I have used ubuntu from 8ish til 10.10 and no issues with gfx drivers. in 11.04 I have issues
[00:46] <MrElendig> Core_UK: what issues exactly?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Core_UK: just install nvidia-current and it should run well
[00:46] <NictraSavios> Okay, can I have some help? How do i word "burn it on a dvd, and then put it in the computer and reboot" very simply
[00:46] <eamon> how do I know if my computer is AMD64 or IA64?
[00:46] <NictraSavios> Like I mean, super simple.
[00:46] <lolmatic> eamon: it is amd64
[00:46] <eamon> lolmatic: how do you know?
[00:46] <lolmatic> because you dont know
[00:46] <pfifo> NictraSavios, one step at a time
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> NictraSavios: "Use your CD burning software to burn the ISO to a DVD. Once completed reboot the system and select the DVD as the bootable media"
[00:47] <eamon> lolmatic: there are 2 vewrsions of the source code. AMD64 and IA64, how do you know I'm AMD64?
[00:47] <KimLaroux> Core_UK, I have a serious issue too, just curious if we share the same... what's the problem you get?
[00:47] <NictraSavios> ActionParsnip, In words a grade 3 would understand?
[00:47] <escott> eamon, how many millions did it cost. if its less than 5 its not IA64
[00:47] <eamon> ok
[00:47] <NictraSavios> ActionParsnip, He may be in grade 10... but sometimes im not sure.
[00:48] <dsnyders> What is the easiest way to get my computer to play a sound in fifteen minutes?
[00:48] <pfifo> eamon, if you have an Itanium you would know
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> eamon: if you want to know if your cpu is IA64 or AMD64 you will need:  cat /proc/cpuinfo      and you can websearch to see what it is. The amd64 ISO will run on both
[00:48] <escott> eamon, ia64 is itanium. check for "lm" in the flags part of cpuinfo to see if it is amd64
[00:48] <earthmeLon> There are many posts saying how to delete the last gnome-panel panel, but none of them are working for me.  Any suggestions?  11.04 Gnome 'Classic'
[00:48] <Core_UK> MrElendig: The proprietary GUI program shows that I have the drivers but they are not active, I then cannot boot the computer, I have to use failsafe and reset graphics
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> NictraSavios: then you will need to break it down, you could go as far as to specify the burning app (if you know it)
[00:48] <Core_UK> MrElendig: I do not do anything different to what I do in 10.10 and below
[00:49] <NictraSavios> ActionParsnip, Yea... this could take a while
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Core_UK: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig     and reboot
[00:49] <escott> earthmeLon, just remove gnome-panel from gnome-session-properties if you dont want a panel
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> NictraSavios: could just post the DVD you burn yourself ;)
[00:49] <pfifo> Core_UK, you need to add 'nomodeset' to the boot options, kernel and X are in the midst of changing things
[00:49] <NictraSavios> ActionParsnip, yea, ugh well I g2g
[00:49] <brian2898> do most people use unity?
[00:49] <NictraSavios> C yahs, time for the uh.... fun
[00:50] <earthmeLon> escott, I do not see gnome-panel listed in gnome-sessions-properties
[00:50] <eamon> The processor is an intel Xeon is that AMD64?
[00:50] <lolmatic> yes
[00:50] <pfifo> brian2898, http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[00:50] <escott> eamon, most likely unless it is i686/32bit
[00:51] <pfifo> eamon, xeon != itanium
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> brian2898: its speculative
[00:51] <escott> eamon, itanium is an exotic architecture that is only used in a small number of super expensive servers. ignore anything you see about it
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> itanium was garbage
[00:52] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Neither clicking nor right clicking on the time allows me to set an alarm.  How do I get my computer to play a sound at a specific time?
[00:52] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, it had to start somewhere
[00:52] <MrElendig> dsnyders: at
[00:52] <escott> earthmeLon, and you are logged into a classic session right now?
[00:52] <vec> expensive garbage that is
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: i guess
[00:52] <earthmeLon> Yes, indeed I am, escott
[00:52] <Core_UK> pfifo: what will that do?
[00:53] <vec> does running amd64 ubuntu bring any speed advantage, no?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> vec: yeah addon the cost of the rambus ram you had to use and you got a hunk of expensive junk
[00:53] <grmrgecko> Anyone know how to manually boot from lilo shell?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> vec: 64bit ubuntu excells in some areas like audio and video encoding :)
[00:53] <MrElendig> vec: depends on what apps you are running
[00:53] <tumbes2000> Anyone else have the nvidia 'installed but not active error'
[00:53] <pfifo> Core_UK, it will stop the kernel for using its new framebuffer mode setting features and allow nvidia andX to do it instead
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> tumbes2000: Core_UK does :(
[00:54] <MrElendig> tumbes2000: disabled kms?
[00:54] <jimmie> This will sound like a terribly trivial question, but my pendrive and 150gb file system appear on the desktop
[00:54] <jimmie> How can I make them, not?
[00:54] <escott> earthmeLon, ohhh i see the problem it now only shows those "additional session applications" not the core ones. you may want to design your own custom session type in /etc/gdm if you want gnome without a panel
[00:54] <tumbes2000> Kms?
[00:54] <escott> earthmeLon, if it won't let you delete the last one
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> jimmie: its a gconf setting
[00:55] <escott> earthmeLon, another approach that may not work would be to setup the session as you like, then kill-all gnome-panel; gnome-session-save
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> jimmie: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/hide-removable-drive-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[00:55] <dsnyders> MrElendig, so  at +15 mplayer ding.wav ?
[00:55] <MrElendig> dsnyders: that is one way :)
[00:55] <tumbes2000> I as
[00:55] <MrElendig> dsnyders: there are some fancy gui alarm apps too
[00:55] <pfifo> tumbes2000, you need to blacklist nouveau drivers
[00:56] <tumbes2000> All it shows are the nvidia properitery drivers, no nouveau
[00:56] <dsnyders> MrElendig, In my opinion, there should be one built into the time display on the task bar.
[00:56] <Core_UK> pfifo: so do you think it is an issue with the new kernel, could I test this using the liveCD first before upgrading (does that allow you to set boot options?)
[00:56] <Airris> huzzah uninstalled succesfully!
[00:56] <MrElendig> dsnyders: some of the gui ones will give you a icon in the systray
[00:56] <tumbes2000> Pfifo-how?
[00:57] <th0r> dsnyders: I install sox, which gives me the play command, which is more 'transparent' than mplayer
[00:57] <earthmeLon> I'm starting to decide gnome is poorly designed, escott
[00:57] <pfifo> tumbes2000, `sudo echo "nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf`
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> earthmeLon: there are lots of alternatives
[00:58] <pfifo> Core_UK, 11.04 CD allows for nomodeset, press f6 at the bootsplash
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: 1. sudo doesn't transcend the >> characters.   2. blacklist.conf already has text and it will be overwritten
[00:58] <earthmeLon> Going to look into something a little more lightweight and simple.  And something isn't forced to use nautilus.
[00:58] <escott> earthmeLon, if it let you remove the last panel, and someone did that by accident, would you complain that its poorly designed because you have to run gnome-panel or remove some folders to make it come back?
[00:58] <Core_UK> pfifo: many thanks, I will try this :)
[00:59] <tumbes2000> The nvidia driver issue is listed as a bug on launchpad and is assigned
[00:59] <pfifo> tumbes2000, sorry run this as root `echo "nouveau" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf`
[00:59]  * Airris is going to head out, thanks escott
[00:59] <Valentinian> Hi. Can someone please help me with this? (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down
[01:00] <MrElendig> pfifo: echo "blacklist whateveryouneed" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/mycustomblacklist.conf  or sudo bash -c 'echo blacklist whateveryouwant >> /etc/modprobe.d/mycustomblacklist.conf', or what said earlier
[01:00] <risboo6909> sudo?
[01:00] <Valentinian> It's when I restart apache2
[01:00] <pfifo> tumbes2000, upstream will repair it, expect regression
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: I suggest you read the layout of a blacklist file
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: you on't name the modules. You need to add:  blacklist nouveau
[01:00] <risboo6909> Valentinian, use sudo
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: not just: nouveau
[01:00] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, NO U!!!!!!
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> ?
[01:01] <Valentinian> lol, thanks! :)
[01:01] <risboo6909> :)
[01:01] <risboo6909> np
[01:01] <earthmeLon> ActionParsnip, Where would be a good place to find alternatives and (most importantly) how to make the switch?  Keywords to google would be helpful :D
[01:01] <tumbes2000> Upstream?
[01:02] <dsnyders> Thanks all!
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> earthmeLon: switch what?
[01:02] <escott> earthmeLon, use straight x with a window manager of your choice, fluxbox etc
[01:03] <th0r> earthmeLon: install xfce4 and lxde...see if one of those two fits your needs
[01:03] <earthmeLon> That's the goal, escott.  Mostly confused about how to go about 'using straight x with a window manager'
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> earthmeLon: try:  Linux desktop environments. Could try KDE, LXDE. Or just use WM with straight X using OpenBox, Fluxbox etc
[01:03] <MrElendig> earthmeLon: you could also give a tiler a spinn, eg xmonad
[01:03] <earthmeLon> Thanks guys :D
[01:03] <escott> earthmeLon, follow th0r's suggestion. installing most stand-alone wms will create a new session option you can access from the login screen
[01:04] <Valentinian> Can you please tell me why this returns "Not working"  in browser? http://pastebin.com/iJpim9cn
[01:04] <earthmeLon> Ahh, easymode th0r escott
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> earthmeLon: there are lots of alternatives to gnome, you'll find them easily
[01:05] <tumbes2000> Actip
[01:06] <th0r> earthmeLon: install xfce4 and lxde, then at the login screen you can choose which you want to use in the Session menu
[01:06] <Darkenvy> so If I see ">killed" what does this mean?
[01:06] <tumbes2000> Actionparsnip - should I just wait for the bug to be corrected
[01:06] <Darkenvy> does this mean my VPS is killing my processes?
[01:06] <th0r> earthmeLon: by installing others, you don't lose your gnome install...it will still be available if you want it
[01:06] <jcneto> Valentian the function mysql_connect returns a resource not a boolean
[01:06] <jcneto> http://php.net/mysql_connect
[01:08] <risboo6909> jcneto, i think it's ok to check if resource is not null
[01:08] <grmrgecko> Got it working
[01:08] <grmrgecko> thanks for nothing I guess:P
[01:08] <risboo6909> Valentinian, do u have phpMyAdmin installed?
[01:08] <pfifo> Valentinian, no but you can, call 'mysql_error()"
[01:09] <Tros> How do I enable file-sharing in Ubuntu?
[01:09] <Valentinian> risboo6909: I have phpmyadmin. and it works
[01:09] <escott> !samba | Tros
[01:09] <Tros> That is: Past the system settings panel in Gnome, it's asking me to install MOAR packages.
[01:09] <Tros> Thanks!
[01:09] <Valentinian> pfifo: I don't understand what u want to say
[01:10] <pfifo> Valentinian, http://pastebin.com/0t8Kk3c6
[01:11] <escott> risboo6909, try running the code in php -i
[01:11] <escott> Valentinian, ^^ not risboo6909
[01:11] <Tros> Escott: This is all about getting Ubuntu to recognize shares. I want to HOST shares. Specifically through the system settings already offered to me via OOB installation.
[01:12] <escott> Tros, same thing you will need to install samba server (if you are sharing to windows)
[01:12] <Tros> escott: I've already installed Samba, the control panel still says I need more software.
[01:12] <qin> That's nice.
[01:13] <pfifo> Tros, all you need is 'smbfs and samba'
[01:13] <Tros> WEll, not the 3rd party Samba GUI ;#
[01:13] <escott> Tros, a gui might pull in more things, but if you wanted you could manually configure it in /etc
[01:13] <Valentinian> escott: , pfifo , thanks for help, I got it figured out. I didn;t knew that lampserver means the mysql password in that php code. risboo6909 helped me figure it out. Thanks alot! :)
[01:14] <Tros> escott, pfifo: Installing those packages now. I just wanted to keep a minimalistic system and not have 3 guis for one service, and none of them integrate with eachother ;/.
[01:17] <jtreminio> Hi all. I know this isn't ubuntu-specific, but does anyone know how to map the Super Key to open GNOME Do? Super Key without any other button (Like Super + Space)
[01:18] <escott> !ccsm | jtreminio if it is unity or has effects
[01:18] <jtreminio> escott: Sorry, I'm not using Unity but the classic Gnome desktop.
[01:18] <escott> jtreminio, if it is classic or has no effects try gconf-editor and find the metacity keybindings
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> jtreminio: https://answers.launchpad.net/do/+question/32154
[01:23] <pfifo> why is flash playerr turning grey and not playing my youtube?
[01:23] <jtreminio> ActionParsnip: Thanks ... I may simply go with Gnome3 instead. Is gnome3 on Ubuntu 11.04 stable?
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> jtreminio: np
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> no its not stable
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3
[01:25] <cipher__> cipher@pandora ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin | grep chrom
[01:25] <cipher__> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root   root          32 2011-06-07 02:56 google-chrome -> /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome
[01:25] <cipher__> cipher@pandora ~ $ sudo dpkg -r google-chrome
[01:25] <cipher__> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove google-chrome which isn't installed.
[01:25] <cipher__> Hi i am having trouble uninstalling chrome?
[01:25] <rinkukokiri> !pastebin | cipher__
[01:26] <cipher__> sorry, i thought it was two lines:(
[01:26] <rinkukokiri> lol
[01:26] <Flannel> cipher__: You didn't install it through package management.  Therefore you cannot remove it through package management.  How did you install it?
[01:26] <cipher__> no idea :/
[01:26] <escott> cipher__, the ubuntu package is chromium not chrome. that you have google-chrome means it was a non-apt install just rm -rf it
[01:27] <rinkukokiri> escott, there /is/ a deb for google chrome found on their site though
[01:27] <cipher__> okay
[01:27] <escott> rinkukokiri, good point... cipher__ see if that deb was used
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> escott: it's chromium-browser
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> escott: chrome is a game ;)
[01:28] <cipher__> chromium is a game too
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> cipher__: so it is
[01:30] <rinkukokiri> http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?platform=linux   says it adds the repo though so you should be able to issue a sudo apt-get remove google-chrome  /if/ it was installed from the deb there
[01:32] <bAdLuCk> sudo apt-get purge google-chrome
[01:32] <studentz> hi there I messed up my wireless  Please Help meeee ;)
[01:32] <pfifo> n/m I fixed my own flash problems, without even using google
[01:33] <centHOGG> sur
[01:35] <Guest20498> Hi, a quick question. Is it possible to bond two mobile connections in Ubuntu? I have two mobiles with two different providers and was wondering if I can combine the bandwidth from the two?
[01:36] <puff> When I unplug my laptop, it says the battery is at 14%.  When I plug it in, it says the battery is fully charged.  Is that preventing it from charging the battery more? How do I fix this?
[01:36] <puff> Guest19452: I've seen channel bonding on land lines done with a debian box, dunno about doing it with mobile on an ubuntu box.
[01:37] <ArbitRabbit> Hmm, yes... it is possible with ethernet I know.. but I have two ppp connections
[01:37] <escott> studentz, you need to be more specific
[01:38] <rhin0> need the live cd run to use classic view -- can 't use this new desktop
[01:38] <studentz> Hi there lspci does not show my wireless.
[01:38] <rhin0> how do you get the live cd to use the CLASSIC not the silly new desktop
[01:38] <pfifo> ArbitRabbit, you can bond any 2 connections together, the part im unsure of is if ubuntus kernel supports bonding
[01:39] <ArbitRabbit> ah okay...wasn't sure if it worked for virtual connections. I thought Ubuntu kernels after 10.04 supported bonding
[01:39] <pfifo> rhin0, what CD are you refering to?
[01:39] <volkswagner> Greetings folks
[01:39] <rhin0> the live cd 11.04 kicks into the new  desktop
[01:40] <rhin0> how do I get the classic desktop so I can use it
[01:40] <pfifo> !classic | rhin0
[01:40] <volkswagner> Original problem: how can I show in menu "shutdown" and "Reboot" options running LXDE on Ubuntu 11.04 minimal?  Usually in Debian I add user to powerdev group, but this group does not even exist for 11.04
[01:40] <rhin0> you can't log out of a live
[01:40] <rhin0> it just boots into whatever
[01:40] <rhin0> its not user based
[01:40] <pfifo> rhin0, you can log out
[01:40] <rhin0> it logs back into the samke thing
[01:40] <pfifo> rhin0, no password
[01:41] <volkswagner> Update:  I have been able to get root user to get the shutdown, reboot options by installing policykit-1-gnome, but I'm still at a loss on how to get a normal user with sudo priv's to get the shutdown options
[01:41] <pfifo> rhin0, than im not sure
[01:41] <studentz> escott I have a starling netbook from system 76, my wireless worked perfectly, but when I disabled with fn f11 It did come back again
[01:41] <rhin0> ok how do I get synaptic from the new desktop
[01:41] <rhin0> why didn't they just leave it alone
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: run:  gksudo synaptic
[01:42] <rhin0> ok thanks
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you can also find it if you type it in dash
[01:42] <escott> studentz, and you cant activate the wireless in network manager
[01:43] <studentz> escott nope
[01:43] <rinkukokiri> rhin0, i agree.
[01:43] <studentz> escott lspci does not show the wireless device
[01:44] <escott> studentz, what kind of wireless is it
[01:44] <studentz> escott I guess realink ?
[01:45] <escott> studentz, i would say rmmod the driver and then modprobe it again, but I don't know exactly what it would be. try modprobe ralink
[01:45] <escott> studentz, the fact that it doesn't show up in lspci is odd...
[01:46] <studentz> escott  yep I agree totally.
[01:47] <forevertheuni> hi i'm trying to make a deb, I modified my changelog but I have this error: parsechangelog/debian: warning:     debian/changelog(l5): found eof where expected first heading
[01:48] <rhin0> well thats it im stuffed because of the new desktop
[01:48] <rhin0> the assumption that eveyrone wants something
[01:48] <rhin0> its UNUSEABLE
[01:48] <rhin0> its looking like a windows approach
[01:49] <rhin0> inflict a new approach on the users -- they all have to retrain themselves
[01:49] <dijonyummy123> is there some program for linux similar to easy mp3 downloader
[01:49] <th0r> rhin0: why not install either xubuntu or lubuntu and then install gnome desktop from there?
[01:49] <rhin0> why should I have to?
[01:49] <Co_H> I am using ubuntru 10.10 and the speakers don't seem to work.
[01:49] <Co_H> Although it works in Windows
[01:49] <Co_H> How do I fix it
[01:49] <studentz> escott   modprobe ralink : no module found it
[01:51] <simpleblue> ⳧
[01:51] <Josesordo> hello all
[01:52] <centHOGG> h
[01:52] <dijonyummy123> if you guys have ntfs partitions where you store a lot of data. do you usually store files directy to the ntfs. or store to ext4. then later move to ntfs. i wonder because i see that my cpu usage is high, and i see that process "mount-ntfs-3g" is using a lot of it. is ntfs file operations efficient in ubuntu? is it just a small penalty vs ext4 or a big penalty?
[01:52] <Josesordo> How to run Ares in Ubuntu/xubuntu using the last version of WineHQ?
[01:53] <escott> dijonyummy123, you are seeing more of the cpu usage because it is userspace not kernel
[01:53] <escott> dijonyummy123, but whatever inefficiency cannot be less than that caused by writing the file to two places
[01:54] <saphire> Hey guys.
[01:55]  * volkswagner is so sad to be beyond help :(
[01:55] <centHOGG> h
[01:55] <saphire> A few months back when 10.10 was new, people were having issues getting vmware products installed because of a problem with the kernel patches used in the distro.
[01:56] <saphire> Did anyone find fixes for this?
[01:56] <studentz> escott  modprobe ralink FATAL: Module ralink not found.
[01:56] <escott> studentz, i'm afraid i dont know what the module name will be
[01:56] <escott> !xy | Adidas
[01:56] <studentz> escott any suggestion. ?
[01:57] <rhin0> im trying debian
[01:57] <centHOGG> heh
[01:57] <escott> studentz, not really. does it work after a cold reboot
[01:57] <Hilikus> hey guys
[01:58] <Adidas> Escott: nice...
[01:58] <studentz> escott, if cold means after shutdown for more than  hour, then it does not work
[01:58] <dijonyummy123> yeah but if i later move to ntfs, at least i can batch that when i'm not heavily using the pc. just curious how efficient ntfs operations are vs ext4
[01:58] <escott> studentz, well cold as in full halt and poweroff for at least a second or two
[01:59] <Hilikus> is it possible to stream youtube to a DLNA tv? i can do it in my android phone but i don;t know how to do it from ubuntu.
[01:59] <dijonyummy123> if anyone has an idea. i'm not sure i could benchmark correctly
[01:59] <studentz> escott it does not work after full shutdown.
[01:59] <escott> studentz, im not at all sure why that would happen
[02:00] <pfifo> dijonyummy123, ntfs is made fore a single user OS while ext is made for multi user OS
[02:00] <zulgaban> hi
[02:01] <escott> dijonyummy123, if you want to benchmark try bonnie++ or any of the other benchmarks, but you would have to be streaming very quickly to have your cpu limiting your disk writes
[02:01] <leftist> http://pastebin.com/qbmMU8nB Can someone look at this and tell me where i can find this directory so i can chmod it?
[02:01] <studentz> escott I like the netbook, and more that it has Ubuntu, but I need my wireless on.
[02:02] <mieowww> 1483 chatters... wow.
[02:02] <talbert> mouse related question. when in a browser on a wheel click a 4 arrow d-pad should come up. when i jumped to ubuntu from ms i lost that ability. how can i fix this.
[02:02] <mieowww> Does Ubuntu auto-log in every user on boot here? :)
[02:02] <mieowww> http://www.sanedrivel.com/article/4679/why-i-a-geek-prefer-windows-7-and-freebsd-over-linux
[02:02] <simpleblue> many will miew
[02:02] <jim_> hello guys! Need some help with "evolution" email integration into unity. I am not seeing an option after I right click a file and click on 'send to' to use evolution as a 'send as' option... anyway to configure that to be the case?
[02:03] <saphire> leftist: where did that come up?  What were you trying to install?
[02:03] <escott> leftist, what package is that
[02:03] <leftist> i am trying to install Phreesoft's Phreedom
[02:04] <leftist> it is a php based accounting system like intuits
[02:04] <escott> talbert, i dont think it draws that dpad but it should function the same way
[02:04] <saphire> leftist: web based?
[02:04] <leftist> i saphire yes
[02:04] <leftist> it is awesome
[02:04] <saphire> If it is, then you would want to check your httpd.conf and find out what the root directory for that site is.
[02:04]  * jim_ wonders if everyone is sleeping!
[02:05] <leftist> ahh ok saphire
[02:05] <saphire> In side there you should find ./includes etc....
[02:05] <leftist> that is what i was looking for
[02:05] <leftist> thanks brb
[02:05] <saphire> np
[02:06] <earthmeLon> Disable touchpad while typing does *NOT* work.  Edge scrolling/Two-finger scrolling also do not work.   How can I troubleshoot this issue?
[02:06] <AgentGreen> hi everyone
[02:06] <talbert> escott, it doesn't for me. you know what i'm referring to, right? it accelerates the page in the direction that you move the mouse. also, what do you call this function?
[02:08] <Valentinian> Hi. I've managed to install ubuntu server 11.04, phpmyadmin, install a functional webserver (joomla cms working fine) on localhost. But how can I access the machine from putty, or evan on browser? http://ip.adress/joomla works fine from the server machine, but not from the internet
[02:09] <jim_> nvm, solved it. thanks for all the non help. ciao!
[02:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello gents
[02:09] <centHOGG> install ssh
[02:09] <Valentinian> erm, http://localhost/joomla works, http://ip.address/joomla doesnt work
[02:10] <Valentinian> centHOGG: I have ssh installed, but don't know how to make it work
[02:10] <centHOGG> ok, can you ping your server from a client?
[02:11] <Valentinian> centHOGG: nope
[02:11] <centHOGG> ok
[02:11] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i got s little problem with skype on ubuntu 11.04 when i try starting a video call that is to say to send my camera it freezes my whole  laptop to the point where i have to reboot it from the power button in order to be able to use the computer again... ANy ideas why it happens like that? I remember on jakalope and maverick i did not have this type of problems
[02:11] <Gorilla_No_Baka> 10x
[02:11] <centHOGG> can you ifconfig-a that server from a cmd line
[02:11] <talbert> escott, it doesn't for me. you know what i'm referring to, right? it accelerates the page in the direction that you move the mouse. also, what do you call this function?
[02:12] <escott> talbert, yeah i've had it before too. is it in about:config
[02:12] <Valentinian> centHOGG: meaning?
[02:13] <talbert> escott, do you know which variable it is. i've looked and haven't had any success.
[02:13] <centHOGG> pm me
[02:13] <plustax> Anyone know of a reason mp4 files wouldnt be playing on my nook color? Android/linux based.
[02:13] <plustax> Running cyanogenmod 7
[02:14] <Gorilla_No_Baka> anyone?
[02:14] <AgentGreen> plustax what media player are you using?
[02:14] <talbert> escott, also, i thought it was mouse driver related because it's a cross browser problem.
[02:15] <plustax> AgentGreen, tried stock, rockplayer and QQ
[02:15] <escott> talbert, i dont think so. the browser can react to buttons however it would like
[02:16] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i got s little problem with skype on ubuntu 11.04 when i try starting a video call that is to say to send my camera it freezes my whole  laptop to the point where i have to reboot it from the power button in order to be able to use the computer again... ANy ideas why it happens like that? I remember on jakalope and maverick i did not have this type of problems any ideas? Thanks!!
[02:16] <leftist> this is a novice question but i have to ask it anyway...there is more than 1 includes directory yes?
[02:17] <escott> leftist, yes
[02:18] <earthmeLon> Disable touchpad while typing does *NOT* work.  Edge scrolling/Two-finger scrolling also do not work.   How can I troubleshoot this issue?  xinput shows AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
[02:18] <talbert> escott, you mean it's coincidence that neither firefox nor chrome have it on ubuntu?
[02:18] <leftist> ok i figured as much.
[02:18] <escott> Gorilla_No_Baka, you could try and use an LD preload to see if your camera is the problem
[02:18] <AgentGreen> @plustax hmm it should although i know that mp4 is just a container file so they way it may be encoded may not be compatible. it should play mp4s
[02:18] <plustax> AgentGreen, any way to find out and adjust the encoding?
[02:19] <AgentGreen> you may have to reencode it. vlc usually does it well, handbrake ive heard works too
[02:19] <plustax> I can encode with vlc?
[02:19] <escott> talbert, which button is it in windows
[02:19] <AgentGreen> yeah in vlc usually Media > Convert/Save >
[02:19] <plustax> AgentGreen, mind walking me through it?
[02:19] <plustax> okay.
[02:20] <plustax> what do I convert/save it as?
[02:20] <Gorilla_No_Baka> escott: i got an UVC logitech problem.. the camera is working perfect on mac freebsd and all the linux flavours i have tried so far.. never had any problems with this camera before..is AFTER i send the camera skype freezes my computer.
[02:20] <AgentGreen> pretty self explanatory, same container, mp4 but try adjusting / playing / fiddling with the settings
[02:20] <huma777> Greetings, can I get some assistance in restoring the menu/titlebar thingy in ubunty?
[02:20] <escott> Gorilla_No_Baka, well skype sidesteps v4l2 which can cause problems
[02:20] <Gorilla_No_Baka> escott: i got an UVC logitech camera no problems from here.. the camera is working perfect on mac freebsd and all the linux flavours i have tried so far.. never had any problems with this camera before..is AFTER i send the camera skype freezes my computer.
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: does it work in cheese?
[02:21] <escott> you might try using LD_PRELOAD to force it to use v4l2
[02:21] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ActionParsnip: likea charm
[02:21] <AgentGreen> @plustax if its just audio you can convert just audio if you do need it, try h264 or some other types they list there
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: skype is a pain in the ass, it mkes stuff that actually works, cause issues
[02:21] <plustax> AgentGreen, it says destination file. Should I just call it transformers.mp4?
[02:22] <plustax> AgentGreen, it wont play it altogether/
[02:22] <leftist> isnt this the correct syntax for www directory? chmod -R o+r
[02:22] <AgentGreen> ? you can do both
[02:22] <AgentGreen> im just saying some mp4 files are strictly audio. i dont know what youre trying to do
[02:22] <escott> Gorilla_No_Baka, #!/bin/bash; export LIBV4LCONTROL_FLAGS=3; LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[02:22] <plustax> converting to h264 right now AgentGreen
[02:22] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ActionParsnip:  i agree with you.. unfortunately me being deployed in stupid africa in the neck of the woods  it means skype is the only way i can keep in touch with my friends..
[02:23] <stickers> i have a netbook with ubuntu for auction at listia.com/auction/1937841. i'm asking $30 for shipping, but you have to bid and win first
[02:23] <AgentGreen> h264 and aac?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: ekiga exists
[02:23] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :) i know.. and is quite sexy... unfortunately is only me who thinks that not the rest of the world
[02:24] <huma777> How do I restore the wall thing in ubuntu? I screwed it up somehow trying to go back to fancy effects, I have no menu, no launch bar.. only the workspace with nothing else?
[02:24] <leftist>  /join #phreedom
[02:24] <leftist> opps
[02:24] <Gorilla_No_Baka> escot cheers mate.. i will try it next time..
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> Gorilla_No_Baka: rest of the world doesn't use linux, but here you are....
[02:25] <graingert> !question | bbear
[02:26] <Gorilla_No_Baka> the funny thing is that on the former editions it used to work without any problem
[02:27] <Gorilla_No_Baka> right any idead where i can download a skype for the jackalope or maverick?
[02:28] <Gorilla_No_Baka> maybe reverting to a former version of skype would work..
[02:29] <huma777> how do I get access the the system menu so I can try to undo what I did?
[02:30] <edbian> huma777: The system menu was removed in unity.  What are you trying to undo?
[02:31] <Emmanuel> saludos
[02:31] <huma777> I was trying to go to fancy effects for Ubuntu, tried to run the Cube for the workspaces, it disabled the wall, now I only have the workspace and no menu or anything.
[02:31] <escott> !ccsm | huma777
[02:31] <edbian> huma777: no menu?
[02:32] <Emmanuel> I have problems after install twice oracle-xe 10.0.2
[02:32] <Emmanuel> i cannot re-configure it
[02:32] <Gorilla_No_Baka> huma777:  and get rid of the stupid unity using the synaptic ..
[02:32] <escott> !classic | Gorilla_No_Baka
[02:33] <huma777> ubottu I did that, when I enabled the Cube effect, it somehow disabled the wall, I can't get to a menu, or to the settings to change it back.
[02:33] <edbian> huma777: alt+F2  then gun 'gnome-panel'  does that help?
[02:34] <huma777> edbian: nothing happens
[02:34] <escott> huma777, maybe remove your .compiz folder
[02:35] <edbian> huma777: does a box show up?
[02:35] <edbian> huma777: using alt+F2
[02:35] <Gorilla_No_Baka> escott: unity does not impress me at all.. gnome was working good altough in ubuntu was a RAM memory hog..(on debian gnome only uses 60 MB of RAM on booting) but even like that with all it`s faults it was still better than unity.,. I mean i am using 11.04 with ubuntu classic no effects and gnome is working perfect after a little tweaking ,,, it only uses 89 MB of ram ...
[02:35] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i really see no reason why reinventing the wheel
[02:35] <huma777> edbian: no box, alt+F2 does nothing
[02:35] <centHOGG> $$$
[02:35] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  but hey.. they are the bosses
[02:35] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[02:36] <huma777> somehow I completely cripled ubuntu lol
[02:36] <Emmanuel> how can i edit system paths and where i can access to paths of oracle-xe
[02:36] <edbian> huma777: press ctrl + alt + F1  that should switch to a console.  You can switch back using ctrl + alt + F7    try it now
[02:36] <edbian> Emmanuel: You look at the $PATH variable
[02:37] <escott> huma777, messing with ccsm can break unity. I would just nuke your .compiz and the compiz related folders in .config
[02:37] <Emmanuel> I have no idea where is that
[02:37] <Emmanuel> edbian
[02:37] <edbian> Emmanuel: open a terminal.  type echo $PATH
[02:39] <MK``> Whenever I restart, my computer alternates between icon themes... how can I get it to stick? The buttons in firefox, gnome panel, etc. are all affected
[02:39] <escott> MK``, is gnome-settings-daemon crashing
[02:40] <raywin> hello all, is there a better channel for ubuntu noobs? or is this the place to start?
[02:41] <rationalOgre> raywin: This is a fairly decent place to start.
[02:41] <rationalOgre> raywin: Are you just wanting to learn about the basics? Or having a specific issue?
[02:42] <raywin> thx @rO, I am just learning the basics, I just installed natty on two boxes, and
[02:42] <raywin> am trying to learn quickly.
[02:43] <raywin> I'm new to the linux side of the house... it is pretty amazing everything so far just seems to work
[02:43] <Gorilla_No_Baka> except for skype
[02:43] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[02:43] <Emmanuel> somebody have experience installing oracle-xe on ubuntu ?
[02:44] <rationalOgre> raywin: It can get pretty frustrating when things don't "just work" but glad to hear your experience is going well thus far.
[02:44] <raywin> lol, haven't tried skype yet.
[02:44] <rationalOgre> fwiw skype works fine for me but I'm on 10.04 still.
[02:45] <Gorilla_No_Baka> it used to work perfectly until the last version when it begun to randomly freeze the whole com[utter on sending the camera
[02:45] <escott> Gorilla_No_Baka, try the preload trick. i think skype recently stopped using v4l which could be the cause of the problems
[02:46] <raywin> @GNB, I've had some weird issues with wifi performance... are you on a hardline or wireless?
[02:46] <rationalOgre> Gorilla_No_Baka: ah, that would explain it. I don't use the video chat.
 MK``, is gnome-settings-daemon crashing <-- no, I never got any alert. This started happening when I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10
[02:46] <Valentinian> Can please someone ping those IPs, and tell me if they get response? 82.137.13.80    172.17.49.80    192.168.122.1
[02:46] <SAM_theman> anyone know how to Call Manager Assistance or Console Assistance in ubuntu 10.4
[02:47] <SAM_theman> *10.04
[02:47] <tuxter> hey all. >)
[02:47] <escott> Valentinian, the last is internal to your network
[02:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> escott:  i will do that next time when i will have someone to talk to .. at the moment is  0247 hours in stupid angola and same time in UK.. so.. i guess i will just have to wait
[02:47] <Valentinian> escott: thanks, didnt knew
[02:47] <th0r> Valentinian: if you are running a router you will have to forward ports to the local address in the router
[02:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> raywin:  i had to use ndiswrapper because i have a netgear wnda3100vs and is quite tricky to get it up and running..
[02:48] <tuxter> im on natty an it logs in as root automatically. i searched google for a fix to no avail. i re-installed gwm to no avail.
[02:48] <tuxter> sigh
[02:48] <Gorilla_No_Baka> but yeah i was able to go online using wifi and ndiswrapper with windows drivers
[02:49] <raywin> @GNB, I am a totaly ubuntu noob, but the only thing I've had any kind of problem with so far is wifi performance
[02:49] <Emmanuel>  i have problems re-installing oracle-xe
[02:49] <Valentinian> th0r: is not a router, is a wireless usb modem
[02:49] <tuxter> natty auto logs-in as root. the login screen doesnt show up on boot
[02:49] <rationalOgre> tuxter: Click on the power icon in the upper right, then System Settings
[02:49] <tuxter> o
[02:49] <raywin> if possible you might want to try and hardwire ethernet and try skype with that...
[02:50] <rationalOgre> When the control center pops up, click on Login Screen
[02:50] <rationalOgre> Then click Unlock at the bottom
[02:50] <rationalOgre> And change what user auto logs in or shut of auto login alltogether
[02:50] <th0r> Valentinian: your computer is talking to the wireless router....anything (ping, etc) sent to your ip address will die at that router unless you tell it to send the packets on to your computer
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[02:50] <rationalOgre> tuxter: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/05/automatically-login-to-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[02:51] <Valentinian> th0r: can u point me to a tutorial where I can learn how to do that?
[02:51] <tuxter> o
[02:51] <RepTepHog> A psychologist's galactify beam.  Intergalactic planetary... planetary intergalactic.  Intergalactic Planetary!
[02:51] <RepTepHog> Intake time.  God this rghymes, Toy Godz don't play.  I enjoy bacon.
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[02:51] <FloodBot1> RepTepHog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <tuxter> checking thnx.
[02:51] <th0r> Valentinian: not off hand. google should be able to find some for you
[02:52] <th0r> Valentinian: google port forwarding and include the model of your wifi router
[02:52] <Jon--> I am installing a couple perl modules with checkinstall. I just installed a dependency of the Bit::Vectors module, which was carp-clan. However, now that I go to install Bit::Vectors, I get the following "trying to overwrite '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1/perllocal.pod', which is also in package carp-clan 0:6.04-1". Is there a way to force an override of this on install? I like to use checkinstall because managing Debian packag
[02:52] <Jon--> es is nicer than just make install
[02:52] <rationalOgre> tuxter: how did this come about, do you know?
[02:52] <Valentinian> th0r: and how is this action called? forwarding pakets from ip to the computer?
[02:53] <pfifo> BACON!!!!!!!!!!
[02:53] <th0r> Valentinian: it is called port forwarding
[02:53] <IdleOne> pfifo: please keep the offtopic randomness in -ot
[02:53] <tuxter> rationalOgre,  im not shure
[02:53] <tuxter> rationalOgre,  i know its a treashed bug
[02:54] <Valentinian> th0r: then it could be a setting that I have to do in OpenSSH?
[02:54] <rationalOgre> Jon--: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libbit-vector-perl ?
[02:54] <pfifo> IdleOne, blame it on RepTepHog he highlighted me
[02:54] <th0r> Valentinian: nope...it has to be done in the router
[02:54] <SAM_theman> anyone?
[02:54] <aashift> Hi, I've had a problem with apt-get and i'm not sure how to fix this. 'apt-get -f install' doesn't fix this for me. any help please? http://pastebin.com/G0JsKrrH
[02:55] <rationalOgre> SAM_theman: I don't know what Manager Assitance or Console Assistance is. I googled to no avail. More info please?
 MK``, is gnome-settings-daemon crashing <-- no, I never got any alert. This started happening when I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10
[02:55] <Valentinian> th0r: I just want to make a website on my computer to be accesibile from the internet, do I have to do that in a router?
[02:55] <Polah> Valentinian: Port forwarding, basically, is a setting on your router that diverts traffic sent to a specific port to a certain computer on the network. For SSHing into a computer on a network behind the router, you'd need to configure the router to forward incoming traffic on port 22 to that computer
[02:55] <Jon--> rationalOgre, I am trying specifically to install this http://deps.cpantesters.org/?module=Date%3A%3ACalc;perl=latest  will that package meet the dependency?
[02:55] <leftist> is there a process to install curl via apt?
[02:55] <Polah> Valentinian, yes.
[02:55] <tuxter> rationalOgre, thnx all see if its fixed
[02:55] <tuxter> restart
[02:55] <SAM_theman> rationalOgre, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260237
[02:55] <leftist> i just realized being color blind that i had a red error but i thought all this time it was black :D
[02:56] <rationalOgre> !gnome3 | aashift
[02:56] <Polah> Valentinian, for a website, you need to divert port 80 traffic to your computer.
[02:56] <escott> MK``, i've had issues with gnome-settings-daemon loading after the desktop draws when logging in from a cold boot
[02:56] <Valentinian> Polah: And that can be done without envolving my ISP?
[02:56] <tuxter> rationalOgre,  i remeber. Its when i installed Ubity-2d
[02:56] <aashift> rationalOgre: i'm aware of that. however, still wondering how to fix it, if possible.
[02:56] <Polah> Valentinian, your ISP may take issue if you're using large amounts of bandwidth.
[02:57] <Polah> Valentinian, check with your ISP for their terms on hosting websites and content like that.
[02:57] <tuxter> any how brb
[02:57] <MK``> escott: could this be related to Plymouth not working properly since I upgraded? I never got around to fixing it since it was only a visual issue
[02:57] <rationalOgre> SAM_theman: You might have better luck in #cisco
[02:57] <SAM_theman> :-X
[02:57] <SAM_theman> was trying to aviod them
[02:58] <Valentinian> Polah: that is not the problem. But my ISP doesn't care how I use my connection, as long as I use it myself :)
[02:58] <Valentinian> And it's ok, I make a website for my city, and i have 100MB download and 2MB upload guaranteed.
[02:59] <Polah> Valentinian: No bandwidth limits?
[02:59] <Polah> Valentinian: If your ISP allows you to, then no you don't need to involve them. Port forwarding is based entirely within your local network. Your ISP is only involved to check if you're allowed to host websites and similar services.
[03:00] <rationalOgre> Jon--: That calls for Bit::Vector 7.1 which is what the PPA installs
[03:00] <Valentinian> Polah: so how can I setup my ubuntu server to serve webpages?
[03:01] <Jon--> rationalOgre, Thank you. One last question. The installer for that module says "make sure to do make install UNIST=1"  how do I specify this flag with checkinstall if I wanted to create a package instead?
[03:01] <Logos01> Hello ...  I'm trying to create a kvm hypervisor using the 11.04 Ubuntu server distro.
[03:01] <Polah> Valentinian: Do you have Apache and such set up already?
[03:01] <Logos01> The only customization I've used is the fact that I'm using a NAS for the file storage. (I'm symlinking to nfs.)
[03:01] <Valentinian> Polah: Yes, I managed to have joomla CMS installed and working
[03:01] <Logos01> I keep getting the error, "Unable to complete install: 'internal error Process exited while reading console log output: bind(unix:/var/lib/libvirt/qemu/Template.monitor): Permission denied
[03:01] <Logos01> chardev: opening backend "socket" failed"
[03:01] <Polah> Valentinian: Then you need to look up the manual for your router and look up how to port forward on it.
[03:02] <bazhang> Valentinian, portforward.com can help
[03:02] <Valentinian> Polah: there is no manual for my router :(
[03:02] <Polah> Valentinian: Looked online?
[03:03] <aashift> rationalOgre: the gnome3 shell may be broke, but the problem i'm having is with apt. it won't let me install packages until the gnome3 issue is fixed. is there a workaround or something for apt? i don't even care right now if it's an ugly fix. i just need apt to work properly for the time being.
[03:03] <Valentinian> Polah: Yes, I use now a Huawei usb modem.
[03:03] <bazhang> aashift, you installed the gnome3 ppa?
[03:03] <centHOGG> v11.04 = too much hassle
[03:03] <Logos01> So I'm learning.
[03:04] <rationalOgre> Jon--: sudo checkinstall make install UNIST=1
[03:04] <aashift> bazhang: yes
[03:04] <Jon--> Sweet. That's handy.
[03:04] <bazhang> aashift, back up and reinstall
[03:04] <Jon--> Thanks rationalOgre
[03:04] <aashift> bazhang: for that small apt problem?
[03:04] <epygraph4u> i cant get the animations add ons to show up in my compiz config how can i get them to show?
[03:04] <bazhang> aashift, there's a very clear warning about that ppa
[03:04] <aashift> bazhang: and i've read it.
[03:05] <Valentinian> Polah: I dont have a router. I have 2 types of connection> one is a cable coming from the ISP with a pppoe connection, and another is a wireless usb stick
[03:05] <Jon--> rationalOgre, fml. Got " trying to overwrite '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1/perllocal.pod', which is also in package carp-clan 0:6.04-1" again (installing Date-Calc-6.3)
[03:05] <aashift> bazhang: did you see my pastebin above?
[03:05] <Polah> Valentinian: You have your computer connected directly to your DSL/fibre/whatever line?
[03:06] <bazhang> aashift, I missed it, just saw the bit about gnome3 ppa
[03:06] <Valentinian> Polah: I guess, it's something like a metropolitan network
[03:06] <Polah> Valentinian: You have [Wall Socket] <> [Your computer]?
[03:06] <Polah> Nothing in between?
[03:07] <rationalOgre> aashift: Sorry, I have no idea. There may be a workaround, I don't know it.
[03:07] <Valentinian> Polah: dunno what WallSocket is
[03:07] <Polah> Valentinian: The socket in your wall that your internet/phone line comes from
[03:07] <Jon--> rationalOgre, Fixed it myself, it was the previous checkinstall installation that I did not remove after installing from package.
[03:07] <rationalOgre> Jon--: Remove carp-clan
[03:07] <bazhang> Valentinian, connector in the wall ; ie directly to ethernet
[03:07] <rationalOgre> Jon--: cool, glad you got it.
[03:07] <Logos01> Anyone? Can't install VMs on a freshly-installed KVM/Qemu install? 11.04 ubuntu-server
[03:07] <aashift> bazhang: my problem is apt is having probs with the gnome3 packages. and won't let me install packages until it's fixed. i ran apt-get -f like it said, however it doesn't fix it.
[03:07] <Valentinian> Polah: My isp has put clables around the whoule city/country. They came at ur door with the network cable
[03:07] <rationalOgre> Jon--: You know, there may be a PPA for Date::Calc
[03:08] <Polah> bazhang: Not directly to ethernet. Directly to the phone/fibre line
[03:08] <Jon--> rationalOgre,  There may be. I did aptitude search on a few different terms to no avail. I didn't try Googling for user PPAs though.
[03:08] <bazhang> aashift, yes, and gnome3 (and all PPA) are unsupported, the warning on that one makes clear you should have backups handy when this happens.
[03:08] <Polah> Valentinian: What? There should be a jack socket somewhere in your home that's connected to your home's phone or fibre line. That's what you have to plug your router/computer into to connect to the internet...
[03:09] <Valentinian> I think is directly to the ethernet
[03:09] <th0r> Valentinian: then where does the 192.168 ip address come from?
[03:09] <Valentinian> I think there is one outside my house. But inside my home is only a cable which i plug into the network slot
[03:10] <Polah> Valentinian: The ethernet jack on your computer?
[03:10] <Valentinian> Wait. That is one connection. And I have another connection, it's a mobile broadband connection, That's what I'm using now
[03:11] <Polah> Valentinian: Open a terminal and type ifconfig, pastebin it for me.
[03:11] <Guest96223> I keep getting error 'SystemError: installArchives() failed' when I try to update. This was after uninstalling my graphics after they messed up.
[03:11] <Valentinian> http://pastebin.com/gpFaqKeQ
[03:13] <rationalOgre> virtual bridge
[03:14] <Valentinian> My internet connection is done through something like this: http://www.mobilebroadbandrocks.com/device/huawei-e170-e172 (not exactely that device, but that type of device)
[03:14] <fbdystang> Hi all :) My ubuntu server box is reading/writing really slow, like 1MBps. Disk utility shows an average Read rate at 110.6 MB/S. But when I just straight copy files from one folder to another it shows 1 MB/S. What could be causing this? RAM? Thanks in advance
[03:15] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: So you have a essentially a wireless ISP?
[03:15] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: yes :)
[03:15] <Valentinian> And i'm trying to setup my ubuntu server PC to serve webpages
[03:16] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: Then you are going to need a IP forwarding service of some type, like no-ip.com
[03:16] <Polah> Valentinian: I hope for your sake that you're running a firewall on your computer.
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> fbdystang: test your ram if you suspect it
[03:16] <SolomonKull> ^ this ^
[03:17] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: As I would imagine you have a dynamic IP address from your ISP.
[03:17] <phr> hi ;) can someone tell me a method to boot/install ISO from hard drive without usb sticks and cd-roms?
[03:17] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: that's right, dynamic IP.
[03:17] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: I also would highly suggest locking down the box since you don't even have a NAT router blocking you.
[03:17] <fbdystang> ActionParnsip: Do you mean like memtest from grub? Or is their a RAM utility in Ubuntu?
[03:17] <Logos01> Anyone? Anyone at all?  Default 11.04 server as KVM hypervisor -- can't install VMs.
[03:17] <Valentinian> Polah: just installed ubuntu server, with apache2, mysql and php, that's it. It's a plain installl
[03:18] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: It goes INTERNET => you (which is mad dangerous unless you know how to config the computer)
[03:18] <Polah> Valentinian: Consider switching to your wired connection rather than wireless if you're hosting. Also, what rationalOgre said. Since you have no router, there's nothing between your computer and the internet. I'd recommend getting a firewall to protect your ports and in that you can just open 80 for a website.
[03:18] <phr> anyone?
[03:18] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: and how can I do that? I tried to configure Zentyal (I think it does what I need) but couldn't manage to.
[03:18] <whigbert> Why is Ubuntu a total fail every time I try it anew? gah!
[03:18] <rationalOgre> Polah: He has a firewall. UFW+IPtables
[03:18] <MonkeyDust> phr: anyone what?
[03:18] <SolomonKull> whigbert: Because Ubuntu is not Debian.
[03:19] <whigbert> During install the mouse cursor is borked
[03:19] <GSF1200S> does anyone know how to get the gnome keyring to NOT ask me for a password when I login?
[03:19] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: Google UFW
[03:19] <whigbert> After install the mouse cursor is invisible
[03:19] <chowl> Anyone there with sometype of ubuntu knowhow?
[03:19] <whigbert> good, managed to install fglrx with the invisible mouse cursor
[03:19] <chowl> I have an odd question
[03:19] <rationalOgre> sorry, you probably need to put Ubuntu ufw
[03:19] <phr> MonkeyDust: i've asked if someone knows a method about how to boot/install ISO from hard drive
[03:19] <whigbert> now I want to use vnc
[03:19] <Logos01> Apparently not, chowl -- but what's the question?
[03:19] <MonkeyDust> Valentinian: type sudo ufw status
[03:19] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[03:19] <whigbert> I setup vino, but when I connect all windows are invisibloe
[03:19] <whigbert> the rest works
[03:20] <GSF1200S> the keyring and my login password are the same- it asks me to login, then I have to put in the password again for my wireless card to work
[03:20] <chowl> Alright so I've got xp and windows installed on this machine, running fine.
[03:20] <Valentinian> United Farm Workers of America =))
[03:20] <Valentinian> ufw is allready installed
[03:20] <chowl> I need to reinstall windows, but I have no quality usb drives, nor do I have an blank cd/rs.
[03:20] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: You need to read up how to configure it.
[03:20] <Polah> chowl: None of us know a thing about Ubuntu. We're all sitting in here waiting for someone to help us.
[03:20] <fbdystang> ActionParsnip: Do you mean like memtest from grub? Or is their a RAM utility in Ubuntu?
[03:20] <chowl> My question is, how do I install xp, from within ubuntu, onto a seperate partition
[03:20] <whigbert> also, where the hell are the setting? How do I browse settings/programs? Fuck Unity!
[03:20] <IdleOne> !language | whigbert
[03:20] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: Do you have more than one computer in the house?
[03:20] <whigbert> Uh sorry
[03:20] <SolomonKull> chowl: ask in #windows, this is for Linux support
[03:20] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: but isnt that step 2? step 1 being serving webpages?
[03:20] <bazhang> whigbert, stop cursing, and stop with the enter key. its impossible to read
[03:20] <Polah> chowl: As far as I'm aware, the only way to install Windows is with an actual Windows CD/a copy and booting from it
[03:21] <SolomonKull> chowl: Installing Windows is not a Linux problem.
[03:21] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: yes I do
[03:21] <MonkeyDust> whigbert: use ubuntu classic, if you dont like unity
[03:21] <whigbert> bazhang: enter key?
[03:21] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: No, Step 1: Protect yourself. Step 2: Then worry about sharing.
[03:21] <teddyroosebelt> is there any way to get a login screen by adding :0.1 to the command? i need my keyboard to work so i can play a streaming video on my tv in full screen
[03:21] <Logos01> chowl: What's the goal?  Could a VM solve the problem?
[03:21] <chowl> Yeah installing windows is a linux problem when I'm asking how to do it within ubuntu
[03:21] <SolomonKull> whigbert: think longer, write more, stop using enter afetr ever statement.
[03:21] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: How do you share the internet in your home?
[03:21] <chowl> Goal is to dual boot, but install xp from ubuntu
[03:21] <whigbert> MonkeyDust: I'm willing to accept it, I want to know how to browser programs/settings without figuring out how to install unity classic
[03:21] <MonkeyDust> chowl: windows within linux???
[03:21] <Polah> chowl: Can't install Windows from another operating system.
[03:21] <bazhang> chowl, in a vm?
[03:21] <Azelphur> teddyroosebelt: :0.1, your talking about the DISPLAY variable? you really shouldn't need to specify something like that unless you have a very strange display setup.
[03:21] <Logos01> Ahh. That really isn't possible.
[03:21] <Polah> chowl, bazhang: well, you could use a VM actually
[03:22] <phr> PEACE AND LOVE!
[03:22] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: I dont. They are separate, with two conections: one is pppoe, one is wireless modem stick
[03:22] <Logos01> chowl: If you can't use a VM then there's no way to do what you're after.
[03:22] <teddyroosebelt> Azelphur, correct. i do. i have a tv-out and i cant go fullscreen video in seperate xscreen mode
[03:22] <SolomonKull> chowl: no, it is still very much a windows problem.  If you ahve a legal Windows CD then you should be fine.  Period.  You do not install windows "through" Linux or "with" Linux.
[03:22] <chowl> To install it onto another partition? I was thinking using wine, but I'm positive it doesn't work like that
[03:22] <whigbert> SolomonKull: Aha, so this is custom in this channel? I have never been to any channel like that, so thanks for telling me.
[03:22] <bazhang> chowl, you want to move a vhd to a real hdd?
[03:22] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: So you have two different ISP's?
[03:22] <Azelphur> teddyroosebelt: ah, I see, maybe I'll pm you since the channel flies by so fast :P
[03:22] <teddyroosebelt> Azelphur, sure.
[03:22] <Polah> chowl: Like I said, you need a Windows disk to boot from and install it.
[03:22] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: yes
[03:22] <MonkeyDust> whigbert: install ccsm, open preferences, compiz, desktop, unity plugin
[03:22] <whigbert> Now, as for VNC support, is somebody going to help me?
[03:22] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: Just trying to make sense of your topology.
[03:22] <bazhang> whigbert, ask a question, all on one line
[03:23] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: are the two computers networked together?
[03:23] <whigbert> MonkeyDust: to disable unity!?
[03:23] <whigbert> VNC shows no windows, why?
[03:23] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: I am trying fo the first time to setup a server in order to serve webpages, so I dont  have to use a hosting service.
[03:23] <SolomonKull> whigbert: installing Windows has _nothing_ to do with any other operating systems. Period.  Just because you have Linxu does not mean you are using Linux to install WIndows.  Use a Windows CD or try your luck in a #microsoft channel.  This channel is for #linux support.  Windows is not Linux.
[03:23] <cheryl> Good evening all...
[03:23] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: Ok.
[03:23] <Valentinian> No, not networked together
[03:23] <centHOGG> windows isn't linux?
[03:23] <whigbert> SolomonKull: What, are you a robot?
[03:23] <bazhang> centHOGG, thats enough
[03:24] <whigbert> It does not show PROGRAM WINDOWS
[03:24] <SolomonKull> whigbert: I AM THAN I AM.
[03:24] <SolomonKull> THAT*
[03:24] <cheryl> I'm having trouble viewing a vcd (no doubt created in windoze) on my Maverick 10.10 pc!
[03:24] <whigbert> Ok
[03:24] <whigbert> for the robots:
[03:24] <MonkeyDust> whigbert: use gnome (ubuntu classic) if u want to disable unity
[03:24] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: Ultimately, you will need a static-to-dynamic-IP mapping service like no-ip or it's kin.
[03:24] <centHOGG> your first vcd?
[03:24] <Logos01> Anyone at all?  11.04 ubuntu server -- can't install VMs using the default KVM/Qemu package.
[03:24] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: To make that work with your present setup.
[03:24] <SolomonKull> rationalOgre: dyndns is good.
[03:24] <SolomonKull> Logos01: use virtualbox.
[03:25] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: But I would heartily recommend locking down your "server" before going much further.
[03:25] <whigbert> Hi, my name is whighbert and I'm from germany: I have the following problem: I set up Vino to accept VNC connections, but as I connect with a client, only the desktop appears, but no program windows. Does anybody know a possible solution?
[03:25] <Logos01> SolomonKull: Not. An. Option.
[03:25] <whigbert> Does anybody even know what VNC is?
[03:25] <Jon--> rationalOgre, Unfortunately I don't think my package installed, if you wanted to help me?
[03:25] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: You don't want to put the server out there only to have it hacked within 15 minutes.
[03:25] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: isn't the server locked with default install?
[03:25] <SolomonKull> Logos01: detail teh error.  Lets see some logs or something.  Cant read your computers mind.
[03:25] <bazhang> whigbert, what is "program windows"
[03:25] <rationalOgre> Jon--: Did you get an error from the PPA or from installing Date::Calc?
[03:25] <Logos01> "Unable to complete install: 'internal error Process exited while reading console log output: bind(unix:/var/lib/libvirt/qemu/Template.monitor): Permission denied
[03:25] <Logos01> chardev: opening backend "socket" failed"
[03:25] <Jon--> whigbert, yes we (at least some of us) know what VNC is. Unfortunately I've never done any VNCing with Linux sorry.
[03:25] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: Not always. Best to be safe than sorry.
[03:26] <whigbert> bazhang: Man, what do you call the goddamn things your window manager manages? don't you call them just WINDOWS, or do you call them something else?
[03:26] <qin> whigbert: Can you define "desktop"? Walpaper, empty retangle?
[03:26] <SolomonKull> whigbert: window managers.
[03:26] <Logos01> http://pastebin.com/NBj25Qa0
[03:26] <Jon--> rationalOgre, Nope, rather a failed to include Strptime.pm which should be in that package. I can't find it anywhere. @INCLUDE has /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl
[03:26] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: Unless it is built from the ground up, any server distro is going to have services running that are unnecessary and such.
[03:26] <bazhang> whigbert, no cursing, watch the attitude
[03:26] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: And default configurations for various things.
[03:27] <Valentinian> rationalOgre: are there any tutorials on how to achieve what I need? (a webhosting server)
[03:28] <cheryl> centHOGG, on this system, yes, won't play in my new dvd player either.
[03:28] <Polah> Valentinian: Acquire the minimal ISO and do an absolute minimal install from it. i.e. OpenSSH server perhaps, Apache, MySQL, PHP, some firewall service (if one doesn't already come on the minimal, someone confirm please), and that's basically it. Even then there may be a few things you could remove.
[03:28] <bazhang> cheryl, tried ripping it with ogmrip or the like?
[03:28] <Logos01> Just use the Ubuntu-server package.
[03:28] <Logos01> It has LAMP as an installation option.
[03:29] <cheryl> bazhang, I'm not that technical! I thought I could just plug it in 'n play it
[03:29] <centHOGG> cheryl: can you hold on for a sec... helping someone
[03:29] <rationalOgre> Valentinian: http://serverfault.com/questions/42/securing-a-fresh-ubuntu-server
[03:29] <Valentinian> I have all of those installed and running.
[03:29] <Valentinian> Polah: that's what I did :)
[03:29] <godmachine81> how do you disable notifications in gnome 3?
[03:29] <[V13]Axel> Is it possible to use the ATI binary drivers on a card that's on the legacy support structure?
[03:29] <bazhang> cheryl, some can, though ogmrip is very easy to use
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> godmachine81: gnome3 isn't supported here
[03:29] <cheryl> centHOGG, No probs, need a coffee anyhow....pm me when u ready, ta.
[03:29] <centHOGG> k
[03:29] <gnarlbert> hi
[03:29] <godmachine81> ActionParsnip:: where is it supported then?  nobody talks about it nowhere!!
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> godmachine81: #gnome
[03:30] <cheryl> bazhang, thanks but centHOGG says he can help. :)
[03:30] <godmachine81> ActionParsnip:: i don't even use ubuntu.. but i figured that people had it installed here that might know.. come on man.. nobody is in that channel active
[03:30]  * rww facepamls
[03:30]  * cheryl goes to make a cuppa java.
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> godmachine81: no, its not stable in Ubuntu
[03:30] <bazhang> godmachine81, what os do you use
[03:30] <Jon--> I feel in this growing dilemma to move off of 10.04 but I really dislike Unity. I guess I can go to 10.10...
[03:30] <godmachine81> slackware
[03:30] <bazhang> godmachine81, why ask here then
[03:30] <godmachine81> well sorry for asking a question..
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> godmachine81: then try the slackware channels
[03:30] <[V13]Axel> Is there a way to use the ATI binary proprietary drivers on a card on the legacy support structure?
[03:30] <Polah> godmachine81: Remove the Notification Area on one of your panels. Assuming it's not too different from GNOME2.
[03:30] <rationalOgre> Jon--: Curious, why didn't  you use the cpan shell?
[03:30] <rationalOgre> Jon--: to install this stuff.
[03:30] <Polah> Jon--: You can use GNOME2 on 11.04
[03:31] <godmachine81> this is not a distro specific question.. god
[03:31] <gnarlbert> May I ask again: I try to use VNC with Vino as a server, but the client does not draw any application windows, only the unity UI and the desktop is shown. Is there anybody able to help me?
[03:31] <Jon--> godmachine81, Try ##linux
[03:31] <godmachine81> Polah:: it is completely different than gnome 2
[03:31] <rolandixor> Anyone know where the ayatana channel is?
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> godmachine81: but this is a distro specific channel
[03:31] <rww> godmachine81: GNOME 3 exists in two forms in Ubuntu. One is an unsupported PPA that is unsupported, and one is in our development release that isn't supported here. Considering that Ubuntu support channels are for Ubuntu, please go use your distribution's or something.
[03:31] <rolandixor> oh hi ActionParsnip
[03:31] <rww> rolandixor: #ayatana
[03:31] <KimLaroux> Jon--, there's always KDE and Xfce =)
[03:31] <godmachine81> Polah:: gnome 3 doesn't have options for editing panels
[03:31] <bazhang> !alis | rolandixor
[03:31] <Polah> godmachine81: Better go and ask in #gnome then.
[03:31] <rolandixor> ty rww
[03:31] <Jon--> KimLaroux, KDE is too flashy and Xfce looks like ass. OpenBox is an option ;p
[03:32] <godmachine81> i have asked in gnome.. nobody talks there.. i didn't think i would get that big of a run around by asking here hell fire
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: try LXDE (uses openbox too)
[03:32] <Jon--> Getting an error after installing a perl module, erhaps it didn't install properly?
[03:32] <rationalOgre> Jon--: At any rate. Remove that PPA that you did from before, and your current Date::Calc, then run sudo apt-get install libdate-calc-perl
[03:32] <Polah> godmachine81: Do some Googling then. Like we said, GNOME3 is not supported on Ubuntu or in this channel.
[03:32] <Jon--> rationalOgre, damn, there's a package?
[03:32] <KimLaroux> Jon--,  lol I love both, been a KDE fan for years... never tried OpenBox, I'll check it out
[03:32] <rationalOgre> Jon--: Indeed
[03:32] <Jon--> KimLaroux, It needs heavy manual config
[03:32] <KimLaroux> Ah, nvm then
[03:33] <rolandixor> :/ I don't like IRC :(
[03:33] <Logos01> SolomonKull: http://pastebin.com/NBj25Qa0
[03:33] <rodd> hi has anyone ever tried macbuntu?
[03:33] <[V13]Axel> rodd: I use it on 10.04
[03:33] <[V13]Axel> rodd: It's pretty wonderful.
[03:33] <rodd> is it stable?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> rodd: did a while ago
[03:33] <[V13]Axel> rodd: For 10.04 and 10.10/
[03:33] <bazhang> rodd, its not stable, nor supported.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> rodd: its just themes, so should be fine
[03:34] <rww> it's a fully-blown program these days
[03:34] <rodd> im trying it on 11 but sometimes things dont go well
[03:34] <qin> rodd: But still you would want to have test account/user for it ;)
[03:34] <bazhang> rodd, have full backups
[03:34] <rodd> like mouse cursor, high cpu usage for the docky and a few other things
[03:34] <gnarlbert> Ok, so nobody running Vino for VNC in ubuntu?
[03:35] <gnarlbert> anybody using some other remote desktop solution?
[03:35] <cheryl> centHOGG, just don't forget me here....
[03:35] <[V13]Axel> What's the command for the Hardware Drivers program?
[03:35] <centHOGG> almost there :)
[03:35] <rww> [V13]Axel: jockey-gtk
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> rodd: http://langit.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/install-macbuntu-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[03:35] <Jon--> gnarlbert, Try Google, see what seems to be the most popular. Is it Vino? I don't know anything about VNC in Linux.
[03:35] <[V13]Axel> rww: Thanks.
[03:36] <qin> gnarlbert: x over ssh?
[03:36] <rationalOgre> Jon--: i just ran sudo apt-get -s install libdate-calc-perl and it ran just fine, installed all dependencies and everything.
[03:36] <gnarlbert> Jon--: FYI vino comes with Ubuntu but it doesnt' work properly for me
[03:36] <Polah> gnarlbert: You could use SSH instead.
[03:36] <Jon--> rationalOgre, I still get Can't locate DateTime/Format/Strptime.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at conkyRTM.pl line 31.
[03:36] <gnarlbert> qin: That doesn't work across OSs does it?
[03:36] <dinesh_> hello friends i am trying to install wine 1.3 its giving the error as follows (The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:36] <dinesh_>  wine1.3 : Conflicts: wine1.0 but 1.0.1-0ubuntu14 is to be installed
[03:36] <dinesh_> E: Broken packages
[03:36] <dinesh_> ) kindly advise how to resolve it
[03:36] <dinesh_> hello actionparsnip
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> dinesh_: remove wine1.0 first
[03:37] <qin> gnarlbert: You can run whole gnome/kde/whatever (i thinks there is nice howto to run osx too)
[03:37] <dinesh_> ) kindly advise how to resolve it
[03:37] <ray_> what u guys think of 11.04?
[03:37] <Jon--> gnarlbert, PuTTy has X11 forwarding
[03:37] <Logos01> Nothing from anyone? ubuntu-server instance, default packages all around, cannot install VMs.
[03:37] <Logos01> http://pastebin.com/NBj25Qa0
[03:37] <dinesh_> ok
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> ray_: its ok
[03:37] <gnarlbert> qin: Sounds like I'd prefer VNC still, thanks
[03:38] <dinesh_> how to remove
[03:38] <Jon--> gnarlbert, It might lag badly though.
[03:38] <rationalOgre> Jon--: Hrm. It should be installing it in your include path...
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> dinesh_: use software centre
[03:38] <dinesh_> ok
[03:38] <gnarlbert> I was hoping for something at least as good as VNC or remote desktop
[03:38] <Polah> gnarlbert: Running an SSH server, you can use ssh with the -X flag to get a graphical environment.
[03:38] <qin> gnarlbert: freenx?
[03:38] <Logos01> gnarlbert: X11 forwarding is per-application.
[03:38] <rodd> ActionParsnip, thanks for the link
[03:38] <Logos01> FreeNX
[03:38] <gnarlbert> freenx, eh
[03:38] <rodd> i didn't like the new interface on 11
 it's buggy and flaky!
[03:39] <bazhang> rodd, then use classic
[03:39] <rodd> the classic is way better
[03:39] <Polah> Logos01: Really?
[03:39] <rodd> i do
[03:39] <rodd> just saying my opinion
[03:39] <th0r> gnarlbert: I never had much luck with freenx, but the commercial nx is free for personal use
[03:39] <Jon--> I really hope they drop Unity, it's such a piece of *children are present*
[03:39] <rationalOgre> Jon--: Are you trying to run a script that relies on this?
[03:39] <Logos01> Gah -- FreeNX is alright but haven't really played with it.
[03:39] <Jon--> rationalOgre, mhm
[03:39] <th0r> gnarlbert: but look at x-forwarding via ssh....faster than any alternatives
[03:39] <Logos01> Polah: Really what? <_<
[03:40] <Polah> Logos01: I didn't know it was application specific
[03:40] <rationalOgre> Jon--: Give it time. It could become something great. However, they really should make it easier to "swap out".
[03:40] <Logos01> Polah: X11 forwarding?
[03:40] <gnarlbert> th0r: It will only run on Unices though, right?
[03:40] <Logos01> Well, whatever apps you invoke in your X-forwarding shell are what get viewed.
[03:40] <th0r> gnarlbert: you can do x-forwarding from windows using xmng
[03:40] <rationalOgre> Jon--: One of the reasons I love Arch is that if I want to try out a new WM it's just 2 or 3 commands.
[03:40] <Polah> Logos01: Yeah.
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> gnarlbert: what tasks do you do on the remote systems using freenix etc?
[03:41] <th0r> gnarlbert: that should be x-forwarding TO windows
[03:41] <Jon--> rationalOgre, I have so many people recommend arch, I'm just lazy right now. Any idea on my perl issue?
[03:41] <Logos01> You still need to be running the X11 server locally though.
[03:41] <Logos01> You can use xmng, mingw, or Cygwin-X
[03:41] <Logos01> I personally prefer Cygwin-X.
[03:41] <Roasted> Does anybody know the command to run usb startup disk creator in terminal? It's giving me issues in 11.04 and I heard if I run it with gksudo as root I can run it without issue, but I forget the command.
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: usb-creator-gtk
[03:43] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, as always, thanks bro
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: anytime
[03:45] <i3luefire> what is the best way to have my laptop do frequency scaling
[03:45] <Azelphur> i3luefire: do nothing, it should be automatic.
[03:46] <rationalOgre> Jon--: dpkg -L libdate-calc-perl | grep -i Strptime.pm
[03:46] <fbdystang> Hey, I am running memtest86 right now. Does it check speeds or just for correct bits? If it checks speeds how can you interpret them? I have 2gigs of DDR3 @1333 but it only shows DDR @666 MHZ.
[03:46] <Jon--> rationalOgre, no output
[03:46] <GrubNwb> help
[03:46] <GrubNwb> oh srry
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> fbdystang: you will know if it finds errors, if the wrong speed is shown, check our BIOS settings
[03:47] <GrubNwb> Can someone help me with something?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> GrubNwb: ask and see
[03:47] <rodd> I just love when you write a long text in a form, submit, gives you an error message and makes your text disappear
[03:48] <fbdystang> ActionParsnip: Thanks I'll check it right now
[03:48] <GrubNwb> Ok, I have just installed ubuntu to an external harddisk with GRUB2 on that hard drive. How can i boot to it? (my main OS is win 7)
[03:48] <Logos01> fbdystang: I'm not aware that memtest checks for speeds.
[03:48] <fbdystang> rodd: sorry man I have done that too many times
[03:48] <Logos01> That's not really an Ubuntu/linux thing though.
[03:48] <qin> GrubNwb: Boot sequence in bios
[03:48] <Logos01> GrubNwb: You need to change your boot-device order to select it.
[03:49] <rationalOgre> Jon--: sudo apt-get install libdatetime-perl
[03:49] <whigbert> ok I can't get freenx installed
[03:49] <fbdystang> Logos01: Do you know of another way to test RAM speeds?
[03:49] <whigbert> repositories outdated apparently
[03:49] <leftist> is there anything i need to run after this command? apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get install php5-curl
[03:49] <GrubNwb> Logos01 It is installed to a specific partition on the device does that matter?
[03:50]  * whigbert goes back to Windows, thanks again
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> leftist: looks fine (I recommend you install and use apt-fat instead ;))
[03:50] <Logos01> GrubNwb: No.
[03:50] <Logos01> Shouldn't, anyhow.
[03:50] <Logos01> fbdystang: Not off the top of my head, actually.
[03:50] <GrubNwb> Ok thanks. I'll try now
[03:50] <leftist> actionparsnip ;)
[03:51] <kaushal> Hi
[03:51] <kaushal> is there a irc channel for ubuntu-lists ?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> *apt-fast sorry
[03:51] <rationalOgre>  Jon-- I should have just had you do sudo apt-get install libdatetime-format-strptime-perl
[03:51] <rww> kaushal: as in mailing lists? or what?
[03:51] <kaushal> I get Your message was rejected while sending email to lucid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com
[03:52] <kaushal> rww: yes
[03:52] <rww> kaushal: No, but lucid-changes isn't something you send mail to. It's an autopost from Launchpad or something.
[03:52] <Jon--> rationalOgre, Considering your first recommended command didn't include libdatetime-format-strptime-perl? Yep. ;P
[03:52] <kaushal> rww: ok
[03:53] <rww> kaushal: what is it you're trying to do? (i.e., why were you trying to send that mail?)
[03:53] <rationalOgre> Jon--: :P Sorry, I generally don't touch perl. I'm a Python guy.
[03:53] <leftist> wouldnt curl support be enabled by default after it is installed?
[03:53] <rationalOgre> Jon--: So I'm having to figure out their packaging system.
[03:53] <kaushal> rww: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/784604
[03:53] <rationalOgre> on Python it would be "sudo pip install <whatever>" done
[03:54] <rationalOgre> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a perl hater, I just know my limitations.
[03:54] <Jon--> rationalOgre, Would you judge me if I told you I have done three years of computer science without touching either? I should get some scripting experience, I've done Java and C a lot :P
[03:54] <noyb_> does anyone here use freenas?
[03:54] <FireStorms> Hey can someone help me with something
[03:54] <rationalOgre> Jon--: It's surprising, but I wouldn't hate you.
[03:55] <rationalOgre> Now, if you told me  you did 3 years of CS without touching shell scripting, I'd call you a masochist!
[03:55] <rationalOgre> :D
[03:55] <kaushal> rww: please suggest further
[03:55] <rww> kaushal: That's not going to happen. Ubuntu doesn't upgrade to new major versions of packages after release in most cases. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for the procedure, though.
[03:56] <FireStorms> I've got two mysql servers on my system, one came with xampp the other is from a lampp instillation. Now the lampp mysql server always starts first so xampp mysql server complains that one's already running on port 3306. How can I reverse this?
[03:56] <GrubNwb> any one know the boot menu key for a sony VAIO?
[03:56] <rww> !xampp | FireStorms
[03:57] <FireStorms> Let me rephrase :P, in *Ubuntu* how do I stop the autostarting of services?
[03:58] <rationalOgre> FireStorms: Version?
[03:58] <FireStorms> rationalOgre, 11.04
[03:58] <qin> GrubNwb: F8? F10? F1? F2? There is limited amount of options.
[03:59] <th0r> FireStorms: there used to be a nice little program called bum...see if it is there for 11.04
[03:59] <FireStorms> th0r I installed that like 10 minuites ago, but it doesn't list the mysql service
[03:59] <rodd> is there a way to keep apache and mysql from auto starting except for removing its entries in /etc/init.d ?
[03:59] <qin> FireStorms: Upstart or init?
[04:00] <rationalOgre> FireStorms: Couple ways. Easiest is sudo chmod a-x /etc/init.d/<scriptnamethatstartsserviceyoudontwant>
[04:00] <jasongriffee> I'm trying to snyc contacts, but I get this: "This address book cannot be opened.  This either means that an incorrect URI was entered, or the server is unreachable.
[04:00] <jasongriffee> Detailed error message: Invalid source
[04:00] <jasongriffee> what should i do?
[04:00] <FireStorms> I deleted mysql from /etc/init.d and sym linked the mysql file from /opt/lampp/sbin/mysql, but still no joy
[04:00] <rationalOgre> sync contacts from/to?
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> GrubNwb: i suggest you check your manual, or read the screen fast
[04:01] <jasongriffee> evolution/ubuntu one
[04:01] <GrubNwb> my screen does not show the buttons 2 press :D ill figure it out though
[04:01] <rationalOgre> FireStorms: Your understanding of the files in init.d is off.
[04:01] <rationalOgre> FireStorms: They are not symlinks to binaries, they are shell scripts.
[04:02] <FireStorms> rationalOgre, Well I deleted the mysql binary, and restarted my comp and it still runs, so it must be autostarting from elsewhere
[04:02] <bazhang> jasongriffee, try #ubuntuone
[04:02] <rationalOgre> FireStorms: Why not just purge the xampp package?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> GrubNwb: seems to be F11
[04:03] <FireStorms> rationalOgre, I'm using xampp, I'd like to purge the other mysql service, but I tried that before and it ended up taking the xampp mysql with it lol!
[04:04] <rationalOgre> FireStorms: So purge both then reinstall the one you want.
[04:04] <rationalOgre> FireStorms: Copy out any config files you want beforehand.
[04:04] <bazhang> FireStorms, xampp is not supported here, use lamp
[04:05] <FireStorms> so besides /etc/init.d is there any other places that autostart services?
[04:05] <justasic> soo.. i cant map my shift/ctrl/alt keys in ubuntu 11.04 with a wireless bluetooth keyboard.. it really sucks when you have to yell with the caps lock key
[04:05] <bazhang> FireStorms, did you read my message?
[04:07] <rationalOgre> justasic: Sorry? Not sure what you mean. Are you saying that shift/ctrl/alt are not recognized as keypresses?
[04:08] <justasic> they are recognized but its almost as if they are not mapped
[04:08] <justasic> i tried mapping them many times but it doesn't seem to work
[04:08] <rationalOgre> justasic: open a console and type "xev"
[04:08] <justasic> done
[04:09] <rationalOgre> then hit mousover the little window and hit the keys. See what they are coming up as.
[04:09] <rodd> anyone on 10 could please tell me the tetris game name that comes with ubuntu?
[04:09] <FireStorms> Well I just used Synaptic Package Manager to remove MySQL and everything works, jeez talk about an easy solutions >_<
[04:09] <ex0a> Anyone know of a simple socks proxy that supports authentication? I need to be able to proxy through different IPs on my server.
[04:10] <KM0201> !tetris
[04:10] <KM0201> hmm
[04:10] <SolomonKull> rodd: on 10?  Ubuntu isnt named 1,2,3 etc.  Its named after a date.  10.something
[04:10] <SolomonKull> 10 = month
[04:10] <SolomonKull> something = day
[04:10] <justasic> rationalOgre, http://pastebin.com/MtxBkZbu
[04:10] <KM0201> !info quadrapassel
[04:10] <rationalOgre> ex0a: Polipo?
[04:10] <SolomonKull> Polipo + tor
[04:10] <earthmeLon> Yes it is, SolomonKull .  10 is after 9 is after 8.   x.6/x.4 is the month
[04:11] <KM0201> rodd: i'm pretty sure thats a gnome app... but there's another "tetris" like game for Ubuntu as well, just can't think of it
[04:11] <SolomonKull> earthmeLon: No, it isnt.  There is no Ubuntu 10.  There is Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10, bit no 10.
[04:11] <SolomonKull> but*
[04:11] <rationalOgre> justasic: Looks right for a Left Shift
[04:11] <earthmeLon> Right, but 10 != month
[04:11] <qin> Sweet.
[04:11] <rodd> k will look around thx
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> earthmeLon: it is in 10.10
[04:12] <justasic> which is why i said it was a bluetooth keyboard.. it works just fine on my other wired usb keyboard
[04:12] <justasic> this is weird haha
[04:12] <SolomonKull> earthmeLon: It is named after the YEAR.  The release happens to coincide with the year due to it being so close to the start of the millenium.
[04:12] <KM0201> rodd: if you search synaptic for "tetris" yhou should come up w/ several options...
[04:12] <earthmeLon> lmao, going to bed after that fail
[04:12] <rodd> already done it
[04:12] <qin> earthmeLon: No more September.
[04:12] <KM0201> rodd: so whats the problem?
[04:12] <rodd> couldnt find ti
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> !find tetris
[04:12] <KM0201> rodd: do you have all your repositories enabled
[04:13] <KM0201> !find quadrapassel
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> !info gpe-tetris
[04:15] <rodd> quadrapassel
[04:16] <justasic> rationalOgre, did u see what i said before?
[04:16] <Core_UK> how do i check what options the kernal is booting with ?
[04:16] <centHOGG> uname -a
[04:16] <centHOGG> uname -r
[04:17] <centHOGG> i forget
[04:17] <Core_UK> nither of those centHOGG
[04:17] <bazhang> Core_UK, what do you need?
[04:17] <Core_UK> bazhang: to check if it is using nomodeset
[04:17] <qin> less /etc/default/grub
[04:17] <bazhang> Core_UK, check in grub2
[04:18] <centHOGG> yeah
[04:18] <Core_UK> each line in that file is a boot option?
[04:19] <Core_UK> or is it just this one: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[04:19] <rww> Core_UK: cat /proc/cmdline
[04:20] <rationalOgre> justasic: No, I didn't sorry. Not sure what is going wrong.
[04:20] <rationalOgre> justasic: You might try googling for your ubuntu version and the name of the keyboard and see if you find anything.
[04:20] <Core_UK> rww: so i can edit that and append nomodeset to the end and save it?
[04:20] <centHOGG> rww: thx
[04:21] <justasic> rationalOgre, yeah i've been googling for a while, just came here to see if someone had a solution i havn't seen yet
[04:22] <rww> Core_UK: No. To edit the cmdline, you need to add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in the file everyone else mentioned, run sudo update-grub, and reboot.
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Core_UK: add it in /etc/default/grub    in the quotes with: quiet splash    save the new file, then run: sudo update-grub
[04:23] <CarlFK> Core_UK: check /boot/config-2.6.35-25-generic (or whatever your ver is) ?
[04:24] <mrl> Hi, I can't see the 'Send to' feature on shotwell. I am using Xubuntu 11.04
[04:24] <CarlFK> Core_UK: oh, those parameters.  never mind :)
[04:25] <Core_UK> thank you guys for the help
[04:27] <rationalOgre> mrl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10913743
[04:27] <slkwr> I'm in ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but I can't find the iso file for the latest ubuntu dvd, can anyone help please?
[04:27] <earthmeLon> How do I remove the final gnome-panel panel in 11.04?
[04:28] <qin> earthmeLon: In classic?
[04:28] <earthmeLon> yup yup qin
[04:28] <qin> earthmeLon: gconf-editor, searching what string.
[04:28] <earthmeLon> See a lot of tutorials, all of which aren't working (unsetting 'panel' in the gconf-editor
[04:29] <mrl> rational0gre: Thanks for the link - found that with google - the fix relies on nautilus though. Does that mean I cannot 'send to' in Xubuntu (without switching to Nautilus)?
[04:29] <rationalOgre> slkwr: Do you want Natty or Oneric?
[04:29] <earthmeLon> qin,  desktop/gnome/session/required_components only has windowmanager, which value is nothing.
[04:29] <mrl> Natty
[04:29] <mrl> Nevermind
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> !torrents
[04:30] <rationalOgre> mrl: Don't know. There may be an xubuntu fix.
[04:30] <rationalOgre> mrl: Nothing showing on google.
[04:30] <qin> earthmeLon: No panel value there?
[04:31] <escott> slkwr, http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/
[04:31] <slkwr> rationalOgre: what is the difference, and which one is the official distro?
[04:31] <earthmeLon> There is no value for windowmanager key, qin. There are no other keys.
[04:31] <Core_UK> ok i added nomodeset and rebooted but i still get the message "this driver is in use but not current activated"
[04:31] <Core_UK> should i be concerned?
[04:31] <escott> slkwr, did you want the standard install cd or the larger language pack dvd
[04:32] <mrl> rational0gre: I think I'll raise a ticket, thanks for the help.
[04:32] <rationalOgre> slkwr: Natty is the current releas.
[04:32] <slkwr> the full installaion which is the dvd I assume
[04:32] <rationalOgre> slkwr: Oneric is still in alpha I believe.
[04:32] <escott> slkwr, the cd is capable of a full install. the only reason for the dvd is if you dont have web access
[04:32] <slkwr> I see, I thought all distros called ubuntu :)
[04:32] <escott> or you need to install on many machines with different languages or somehting
[04:33] <qin> earthmeLon: Natty is different: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1740597
[04:33] <josephoenix> Hello all
[04:33] <escott> you want a normal install then either use the links in !torrent or go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:33] <rationalOgre> slkwr: They are all ubuntu. They have an "identifier" for the version name.
[04:33] <rationalOgre> slkwr: and a number. Natty Narwhal is 11.04
[04:33] <slkwr> escott: no I prefer the full support of offline installation due to the bad internet connection
[04:33] <earthmeLon> sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/gnome-panel .  This is linux, not windows.  I really don't like this solution, but if it works.....
[04:34] <josephoenix> I have a machine I can only access by SSH. I need to change its IP address. Is there a way to do this while providing a failsafe? Or some way to check the syntax of /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:34] <earthmeLon> qin, it works :D
[04:34] <qin> earthmeLon: Are you planning on using tint2?
[04:34] <earthmeLon> THanks
[04:34] <slkwr> It must also be on a server with support to resuming option otherwise it will fail just the dvd from the www.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <earthmeLon> I will look into tint2, qin.  Using #cairo-dock atm
[04:35] <escott> slkwr, a torrent will resume best, but i dont know if there are dvd torrents
[04:35] <dijonyummy123> is there a command line tool that can grep or view into pdf
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> escott: sure there are
[04:36] <qin> earthmeLon: Just interested how to start it if not with gconf ;)
[04:36] <josephoenix> Is there a way to apply a new configuration to eth0 in one statement? As soon as I type ifdown, my SSH session will drop
[04:36] <josephoenix> Should I reboot?
[04:36] <rationalOgre> slkwr: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> DjMadness: you can redirect to txt, then create a pdf from the txt
[04:36] <rationalOgre> slkwr: The dvd links are there as well.
[04:36] <rationalOgre> slkwr: As are the torrent links. (Which support resuming)
[04:37] <earthmeLon> You can chain commands josephoenix:  thiscommand & thatcommand & anothercommand
[04:37] <qin> josephoenix: write script, test localy, execute remotly.
[04:37] <slkwr> Ok, I'm going to try it, thank you
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> !info text2pdf
[04:37] <Core_UK> when I go into Appearance Preferences I only see 3 tabs, not the Visual Effects tab ><
[04:37] <rationalOgre> josephoenix: Do you want the configuration to be perminate?
[04:37] <josephoenix> earthmeLon: will ifdown tell me if there's a problem with the configuration, though?
[04:37] <qin> ActionParsnip: pdftotext
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> dijonyummy123: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/command-line-text-to-pdf-conversion-290058/
[04:38] <josephoenix> I want to know that the configuration is at least syntactically correct before trying to apply it
[04:38] <rationalOgre> *permanent
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> qin: we need the other way
[04:38] <qin> ActionParsnip: texttopdf?
[04:38] <earthmeLon> josephoenix, qin makes a good point to test locally
[04:38] <escott> ActionParsnip,I think it got pulled into poppler-tools or something
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> dijonyummy123: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575579
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> escott: 2 phase method there :)
[04:38] <josephoenix> earthmeLon: I guess it's safest. Means I have to make a VM though :|
[04:39] <earthmeLon> josephoenix, I think I've missed your objective, tbh
[04:39] <fbdystang> Logos01: ActionParsnip: I found a good benchmarking software. and it comes on ubuntu free :). In ubuntu it is phoronix-test-suite
[04:40] <josephoenix> earthmeLon: remote server is currently getting its address by DHCP from remote institution. It needs to use a static IP address. I edited /etc/network/interfaces, now I want some way to make sure it does what I want
[04:40] <escott> !info poppler-utils | ActionParsnip qin
[04:40] <josephoenix> (Or let me fix it if it doesn't)
[04:40] <slkwr> there is no intel 64biy image at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/
[04:40] <earthmeLon> josephoenix, Do you have a copy of the ORIGINAL interfaces file?
[04:41] <josephoenix> Yes, it's the ubuntu default
[04:41] <escott> slkwr, there is no such thing as intel 64bit amd made it intel copied it
[04:41] <earthmeLon> josephoenix, Are you familiar with cron jobs?
[04:41] <rationalOgre> josephoenix: did you ping the address you are trying to set to and/or ask the remote host if that IP is in use?
[04:41] <Core_UK> any one can help with this? "this driver is in use but not current activated"
[04:42] <josephoenix> rationalOgre: it's the address used by the server we're replacing, so it should be out of use (since the old server refuses to boot)
[04:42] <josephoenix> I'll ping it to make sure
[04:42] <earthmeLon> josephoenix, Someone might have a better solution, but you could create a script that runs in 5/10/15m that will RESET the configuration back do default
[04:42] <rationalOgre> josephoenix: Best to do, they may have released it to the local pool.
[04:42] <earthmeLon> josephoenix, If you can re-connect, then you can remove it before it resets
[04:42] <slkwr> I see, so I can go on with Amd 64bit iso images, right?
[04:43] <YankDownUnder> Why not just hardcode the network configuration in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:43] <josephoenix> rationalOgre: they're not nearly that organized. Took them a week to realize that power-cycling the machine wasn't bringing it back up :P
[04:43] <escott> josephoenix, earthmeLon, rather than do it through cron just make use of && sleep 300 && within a screen session
[04:43] <rationalOgre> YankDownUnder: He has, he wants to test the config before going live with it.
[04:44] <Logos01> josephoenix: That pains me. Nagios much?
[04:44] <josephoenix> Logos01: I'm not familiar with it. They're using some proprietary "solution" for ip assignment/access control as far as I can tell.
[04:45] <Logos01> That's got nothing to do with what Nagios does/is.
[04:45] <rationalOgre> josephoenix: earthmeLon has a decent suggestion I believe. Create a script to reset the configuration and whatnot and cron it to run in like 10 minutes, if the config works, then great, disable the cron.
[04:45] <Logos01> Nagios is a service that checks the health of remote devices and automagically generates reports (in e-mail form) based on set conditions.
[04:45] <pooky> my evolution suddenly doesn't have google as an option for adding calendars, any ideas on what I could check?
[04:45] <Logos01> I.e.; "Server at ###.###.###.### PING -- Condition CRITICAL"
[04:46] <grubnwb> ok new error, Grub "Partition Not Found" please help me live and not on a fourm link
[04:46] <EmuAlert> What is the default filesystem in Ubuntu? How easy is it to access from Windows?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> EmuAlert: default is Ext4 and windows currently cannot access it
[04:46] <rationalOgre> EmuAlert: ext4 and impossible
[04:46] <Logos01> grubnwb: GRUB needs to be installed to the root of the device. Not inside a partition.
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> rationalOgre: only currently ;)
[04:46] <grubnwb> ok and how do i fix that?
[04:46] <Logos01> rationalOgre, ActionParsnip -- up until someone makes a Windows EXT4 driver that supports journaling.
[04:46] <rationalOgre> ActionParsnip: I don't see M$ worrying about supporting ext4 anytime soon.
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> EmuAlert: if you use ext3 you can access it
[04:47] <Logos01> grubnwb: Reinstall GRUB to the device.
[04:47] <earthmeLon> EmuAlert, You can, however, create an additional partition on your hdd or use a thumbdrive with fat32/ntfs.  Ubuntu has no problem reading those.
[04:47] <josephoenix> escott: ahhh, that sounds like a good strategy. What would an example line look like? I'm thinking "mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak && mv /etc/network/interfaces.new /etc/network/interfaces && ifdown eth0 && ifup eth1 && sleep 300 && (reverse of the previous two mvs)"
[04:47] <grubnwb> lols How?
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> rationalOgre: fs-driver team may get it added though
[04:47] <Logos01> You might try using GRUB4DOS as it is GUI and friendly. :)
[04:47] <EmuAlert> Are there no 3rd party applications to access it from Windows?
[04:47] <grubnwb> I dont like grub in the first place
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> EmuAlert: not yet
[04:47] <grubnwb> Emu alert u can accses it
[04:47] <grubnwb> i have the program 2 do it
[04:47] <Logos01> grubnwb: GRUB4DOS would be what you'd be installing.
[04:47] <josephoenix> Logos01: ahhh, gotcha. Well their official position on the matter is that it's for us to support and maintain... I guess we could set it up, if we had a second server.
[04:48] <Logos01> To the external HDD that is.
[04:48] <escott> josephoenix, probably, just be sure to do it within screen so that when your ssh session dies the shell doesnt go with it
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> EmuAlert: and microsoft are ignorant douchebags. The definitions are free to use but they haven't. Yet Ubuntu can write and read to NTFS despite it being kept secret
[04:48] <Logos01> josephoenix: Virtual servers cost as little as $20/mo
[04:48] <rww> ActionParsnip: please mind the language, regardless of veracity :)
[04:48] <Logos01> Linode == good.
[04:48] <qin> Neat.
[04:48] <rationalOgre> josephoenix: well you have the .new config already written, you just haven't activated it yet, correct?
[04:48] <nit-wit> grubnwb, are you dual booting windows?
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> EmuAlert: if you want to share data between the OSes, keep it on the windows one to accommodate your primitive OS, then you can access it from Ubuntu as usual
[04:49] <grubnwb> yes i am
[04:49] <qin> grubnwb: Havent you had ubuntu on external HD?
[04:49] <nit-wit> grubnwb, was the ubuntu installed from a running windows setup?
[04:49] <escott> josephoenix, and get the keys to the server room out of the box just in case :)
[04:50] <grubnwb> yes windows was first
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> EmuAlert: it means you'll only need about 15Gb for ubuntu :)
[04:50] <rationalOgre> grubnwb: nit-wit is asking if windows was running when you installed ubuntu. (i.e. using Wubi)
[04:50] <grubnwb> no i did not use Wubi
[04:50] <nit-wit> grubnwb, not what but how did you install from a booted cd or usb or from a live windows setup?
[04:51] <nit-wit> grubnwb, if you don't like grub use easybcd
[04:51] <battlehands> I am attempting to install MATLAB, and I need to be logged in as a super user.  How do I do that?
[04:51] <qin> grubnwb: Please post output of: "sudo fdisk -l", without the quotes. on paste.ubuntu.com
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> battlehands: just run the installer with sudo
[04:51] <grubnwb> ok
[04:51] <battlehands> ActionParsnip, how?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> battlehands: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[04:52] <battlehands> ActionParsnip, ty
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> mat|r: all i did was websearch....
[04:52] <grubnwb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/624865/
[04:52] <qin> battlehands: cd /directory/with/installer ; sudo ./installer.script
[04:53] <grubnwb> what do you guys use to mettion names?
[04:53] <rww> !tab
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> grubnwb: tab
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> grubnwb: type a few letters of the name and hit tab
[04:54] <grubnwb> qin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624865/
[04:54] <qin> grubnwb: Your ubuntu is on external hard drive, it is NOT good idea to install grub on main hard drive.
[04:54] <rationalOgre> josephoenix: Still out there?
[04:54] <grubnwb> i didnt
[04:54] <grubnwb> i installed grub to the external
[04:54] <qin> grubnwb: So, what do you want to do?
[04:55] <EmuAlert> I guess I can keep my files on Windows, but it seems inefficient. ext2fsd says that it has "ext4 extent read-only" support; does that mean read-only?
[04:55] <grubnwb> well when i boot to the harddisk it says "No such partition"
[04:55] <grubnwb> is it because i installed it to the partition that ubuntu is on and not just the hard drive it self
[04:56] <furqan> Hi, I forgot my root password. How can i recover it?
[04:56] <nit-wit> grubnwb, run this script it will tell exactly what is where pastebin all the text.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:56] <qin> grubnwb: rightto, can you push: df -h on .paste.ubuntu.com?
[04:56] <slkwr> escott / rationalOgre : both links are not full dvds
[04:56] <slkwr> escott / rationalOgre : both links are not full dvds
[04:57] <Logos01> furqan: Choose the "recovery" mode at GRUB. when you get to the "#" prompt, execute "passwd {username} {newpassword}"
[04:57] <qin> furqan: Did you have any?
[04:57] <Logos01> Gah -- sorry, that's passwd {username} and then you'll be asked to give it a new password.
[04:57] <slkwr> escott / rationalOgre : both links are not full dvds
[04:57] <rationalOgre> slkwr: Don't spam. The link to the DVD is on that page.
[04:57] <slkwr> I found this if you're interested to add to your bookmarks http://swtsrv.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu-dvd-release/
[04:57] <rationalOgre> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/ubuntu-11.04-dvd-amd64.iso
[04:57] <grubnwb> !tabqin http://paste.ubuntu.com/624869/
[04:57] <escott> slkwr, the ones that say dvd are as full as the dvds ubuntu provides are.
[04:58] <grubnwb> qin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624869/
[04:58] <escott> EmuAlert, yes. one of the features of ext4 are extends and those are supported read only by that tool
[04:58] <slkwr> no offense rationalOgre :)
[04:58] <slkwr> just wanted to give you waht I found if you want ...cheers
[04:58] <josephoenix> Well, thanks all
[04:59] <josephoenix> escott: I used your idea and all went well
[04:59] <josephoenix> \o/
[04:59] <grubnwb> qin: im running of a live disk right now
[04:59] <bullgard4> Can I upgrade from Ubuntu yet if I have installed it from the »ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition«?
[04:59] <qin> grubnwb: Oh, whats not mounted (external hd)
[04:59] <escott> josephoenix, lies nothing that good ever happens to me :-P
[04:59] <Logos01> bullgard4: You *should* be able to run distupgrade still.
[05:00] <furqan> qin, yes i have all passwords except root.
[05:00] <rationalOgre> slkwr: I don't see the difference between the link you gave and the one I did. As long as you select the ones with -dvd- in them they are the same
[05:00] <josephoenix> escott: well then I will say it's working... for NOW :P
[05:00] <nit-wit> grubnwb, I would run the bootscript bro.
[05:00] <grubnwb> ok
[05:00] <bullgard4> Logoos01: "*should* means that you are not certain?
[05:00] <rationalOgre> josephoenix: Glad to hear it worked.
[05:01] <qin> grubnwb: from nit-wit: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[05:01] <josephoenix> :] thanks for your help too rationalOgre, I didn't see your mention up there
[05:02] <qin> furqan: root do not have password
[05:02] <rationalOgre> josephoenix: no worries, it can get pretty busy in here.
[05:02] <Core_UK> If anyone understands AWN please see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1780407
[05:03] <furqan> qin, No, it has but i forgot it.
[05:03] <escott> Core_UK, what wm are you running
[05:03] <grubnwb> qin: i downloaded it, how do i run it (im a ubuntu newbie)
[05:04] <Core_UK> escott: not sure, how can I check?
[05:04] <qin> furqan: sudo -i, and follow with password change, but it is not good to have root password (one more think to worry about)
[05:04] <Core_UK> escott: possibly emerald
[05:04] <escott> Core_UK, ps aux | egrpe "(metacity|compiz)"
[05:05] <nit-wit> grubnwb, drag it to the desktop and run this command, from the generated file copy all the text and pastebin it.    sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[05:05] <qin> grubnwb: in directory where script is: ./scriptname or sudo ./scriptname (if required))
[05:05] <EmuAlert> escott: Late thanks
[05:06] <Juankof> hello to all.
[05:06] <furqan> qin, Thank you
[05:06] <qin> nit-wit: I need to type or read faster ;)
[05:06] <furqan> qin, it worked
[05:06] <Core_UK> escott: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/8030/
[05:06] <qin> furqan: Still, BAD idea
[05:06] <grubnwb> qin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624873/
[05:06] <nit-wit> qin, ;)
[05:08] <escott> Core_UK, that could be the source of the problem. you are running metacity meaning that you don't have composition enabled, so you dont have true transparency. all you can have is fake transparency which may be why you are ending up with grey like that
[05:08] <grubnwb> nitwit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624873/
[05:08] <nit-wit> grubnwb, is that all of the text?
[05:08] <MK``> Is it possible for me to have the top panel be 2 dimensional, so I can have 2 rows of things in it?
[05:08] <grubnwb> nit-wit: yes
[05:08] <codeshah> hey guys, trying to figure out how to install senderid in ubuntu - sid-milter does not exist it seems when I do apt-get install
[05:08] <archana8763> Hi. How do I restart the panels?
[05:08] <Core_UK> escott: I will try and change WM
[05:08] <Core_UK> escott: searching google now :P
[05:08] <escott> MK``, add another panel below the second one. you can make it thicker but not all applets support it
[05:09] <resno> hey yall. what are the permissions suppose to be for home directory? 757?
[05:09] <escott> resno, 755
[05:09] <resno> escott: so it would be chmod 755 dir?
[05:10] <epygraph4u> Hi
[05:10] <nit-wit> grubnwb, have you been able to boot the ubuntu since you installed it ot the other two MS installs i=on the sda HD?
[05:10] <escott> resno, yes, and double check that nothing else was affected. that 7 at the end made all your personal data available to ANYONE logged into your computer
[05:10] <nit-wit> *or
[05:10] <epygraph4u> How do I get the global menu for Ubuntu
[05:10] <Core_UK> ok how do I change window manager? :)
[05:10] <resno> escott: heh, im helping a friend that borked his home dir permissions
[05:11] <BronxDad1956_> i think ubuntu has the best install of all the linux listed in distrowatch.com
[05:11] <MK``> Core_UK: do you have another installed?
[05:11] <escott> resno, i actually have 700 on mine which is probably better
[05:11] <BronxDad1956_> the easiest install
[05:11] <Core_UK> MK``: No idea
[05:11] <grubnwb> nit-wit: i dont really understand what you are getting at but. I have not been able to boot into ubuntu.
[05:11] <nit-wit> grubnwb, it looks like you treid to reload grub with other then a Natty disc is this the case?
[05:11] <Core_UK> MK``: I have Emerald theme manager...
[05:12] <escott> resno, the folders inside it have 755 but the main ~ folder is 700
[05:12] <MK``> Core_UK: you need to install another to use another of course. There's lots of them, such as Enlightenment and xfwm4
[05:12] <grubnwb> nit-wit: I have tried multiple disks
[05:12] <nit-wit> grubnwb, I getting at where you are in the proicess it helps eh.
[05:12] <Core_UK> MK``: I want one with composition
[05:12] <Core_UK> MK``: I think :)
[05:12] <resno> escott: ah gotcha
[05:13] <MK``> xfwm4 is compositing, as are Metacity and Compiz (the ones that come with Ubuntu right now)
[05:13] <escott> Core_UK, if you have glx you can just do compiz --replace
[05:13] <nit-wit> grubnwb, you have 9.10 you used that one correct?
[05:13] <grubnwb> nitwit: yes
[05:14] <Core_UK> escott: Awesome!!!
[05:15] <nit-wit> grubnwb, so the original error you came on with "Partition Not Found" happens when you boot the external?
[05:16] <nit-wit> grubnwb, it is looking for partion 5 your Ubuntu is on 2
[05:16] <grubnwb> nit-wit: yes i get that error when i attempt to boot to it
[05:16] <grubnwb> nit-wit: how do i rederect it?
[05:17] <nit-wit> grubnwb, follow this guide with the 9.10 cd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[05:17] <fbdystang> Is there a way to view samba shares on a cell phone/smartphone?
[05:17] <hasek79> how do i install the global menu?
[05:18] <nit-wit> grubnwb, run the sudo fdisk -l to make sure your still read sdb2 as the ubuntu install.
[05:18] <grubnwb> nit-wit: will it over-write current grub? i just want 2 make sure that the bugged one is going away
[05:18] <ubuntuguy> I want to use gnome phone manager in ubuntu 11.04, how can I add it to whitelist so it will appear as indicator status
[05:18] <nit-wit> grubnwb, should you just reloading the mbr
[05:18] <nit-wit> *you're
[05:19] <grubnwb> nit-wit: its showing me how to install grub (or re-install it)
[05:19] <grubnwb> nit-wit: "restoreing a broken systems grub files"
[05:20] <nit-wit> grubnwb, you have grub in the ubuntu and in the mbr this just reloads the mbr to point at the correct partition[05:20] <nit-wit> 8grub2
[05:20] <nit-wit> *grub2 that is
[05:20] <grubnwb> nit-wit: ok i will try this now. I owe you big time if this works. Thanks in advance
[05:21] <nit-wit> grubnwb, the files are not technically broken just instructed to look in the wrong place.
[05:21] <grubnwb> ok
[05:23] <Syaoraang> hola, alguien que hable español?
[05:23] <escott> !es | Syaoraang
[05:24] <MK``> how can I restart my panel?
[05:24] <YankDownUnder> ALT-F2 => gnome-panel
[05:24] <fbdystang> Syaoraang: si hablo espanol. Cual pregunta tiene?
[05:25] <YankDownUnder> !ubuntu-es
[05:25] <YankDownUnder> !es
[05:25] <Syaoraang> no pues no tengo pregunta, solo platicar y ya
[05:25] <Syaoraang> :)
[05:25] <fbdystang> haha ok
[05:25] <MK``> hm it didn't restart this applet.
[05:25] <qin> MK``: gnome-panel --replace or:
[05:25] <qin> !resetpanel
[05:26] <MK``> well, gnome-panel --replace crashed my panel
[05:27] <escott> MK``, just killall gnome-panel and then start it again
[05:27] <josephoenix> #ubuntu, what would be a good way to have a "shared hosting" type setup where multiple user accounts have permission to edit each "site". Would I need to have a group for each site, then, instead of the usual pattern of having one user account per site?
[05:28] <Syaoraang> well i have a question: Is this a service to share experiences in linux or also we can use it like a simple chat service?
[05:28] <qin> josephoenix: site?
[05:28] <escott> Syaoraang, support channel for chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:28] <josephoenix> qin: I don't know if you've ever used cpanel or plesk, but that's the idea I'm going for (though not as complicated obviously)
[05:29] <josephoenix> qin: basically a virtualhost and separate document root for a web server
[05:30] <grubnwb> nit-wit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624878/
[05:30] <qin> josephoenix: sudo mkdir /home/sharedstuff && sudo addgroup sharedstuff && sudo chown root:sharedstuff /home/sharedstuff && sudo chmod 770 /home/sharedstuff , add users to sharedstuff group, done
[05:31] <qin> josephoenix: oh, webserver...
[05:31] <nit-wit> grubnwb, this command should have no number look at the page again. sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb      this is haow it should look.
[05:31] <josephoenix> The old setup was having subdomains served from folders under /srv/
[05:32] <josephoenix> But all the group management was done by hand
[05:32] <nit-wit> grubnwb, one has sdb2 one just sdb
[05:32] <josephoenix> It's a mess :|
[05:32] <grubnwb> nit-wit: i did i did it on the ubuntu partition (sdb2)
[05:32] <nit-wit> grubnwb, look at the page the second command has no partition number.
[05:32] <grubnwb> nit-wit: grub-setup: error: Cannot read `/grub/core.img' correctl
[05:33] <nit-wit> grubnwb, hold on I will give you the two commands in a pastebin.
[05:33] <escott> grubnwb, if you attempt to do a grub-install to a partition with number it should complain loudly
[05:33] <grubnwb> nit-wit: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb2
[05:34] <escott> grubnwb, no number in that command
[05:34] <grubnwb> ?
[05:34] <nit-wit> grubnwb, that command should not ahe the numer 2 there just sdb
[05:34] <nit-wit> *have
[05:34] <escott> grubnwb, you install grub to the mbr which is on the device not partition 2 of the device so its just /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb2
[05:35] <b0101> Hi guys, I am trying to run Wubi, but i get an error implying that install.iso is not found, Its there. By the way, I am running truecrypt. does that affect wubi?
[05:35] <grubnwb> escott: im trying to get grub to point to that partition
[05:35] <tripelb> I would like help with burning a dvd. I dont think I need help in actually burning it. (bracero?) but I have AVI files and i want the disk I make to be able to play on a DVD player. That's my issue. Will you take this problem as my teacher?
[05:36] <nit-wit> grubnwb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/624885/
[05:36] <escott> grubnwb, thats what the root-directory argument is for, the unflagged argument is where the boot loader is to be installed
[05:36] <nit-wit> grubnwb, these command from the live 9.10 in a terminal.
[05:37] <tripelb> Asecond thing. I have a neighbor/friend who had a windows 98 computer and I want to put some linux on it that will play avi files. He had 98 (sic) MB of RAM. only.
[05:37] <MK``> My panel won't load now... when it launches it stays at the top and just jitters, so I can't use gnome anymore, I am in Unity now. How do I delete a panel from here?
[05:38] <escott> !resetpanel | MK``
[05:38] <grubnwb> nit-wit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624886/
[05:38] <MK``> Will that delete all my shortcuts?
[05:38] <escott> tripelb, you will want something very lightweight, the closest to ubuntu would be stock debian
[05:38] <tripelb> escott, what did it mean that ubottu said !terminal and not terminal?
[05:39] <escott> !terminal | tripelb
[05:39] <tripelb> I thought someone mentioned archlinux or puppy?
[05:39] <MK``> ok brb...
[05:39] <CarlFK> escott: why debian and not xbuntu?
[05:39] <tripelb> escptt I thought someone mentioned archlinux or puppy?
[05:39] <escott> CarlFK, i dont know much about xbuntu is all
[05:40] <tripelb> escott: ok it was a suggestion to go ask ubottu more. ty
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> CarlFK, xubuntu is very close to ubuntu in resource requirements, lubuntu is light in comparison
[05:40] <CarlFK> ZykoticK9: oh right.  thanks.
[05:41] <escott> tripelb, in any case any of those would be fine, you probably couldn't run the full gnome/kde/unity desktop so I wouldnt try
[05:41] <grubnwb> nit-wit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624886/ (just makeing sure u got it)
[05:41] <nit-wit> grubnwb, you have extra punctuation in the second command   (`)--boot-directory=/mnt/boot(')      remove these and run it agaun itif you look at the error in the last pastebin it points out that specif stanza.
[05:41] <tripelb> escott no chance for lubuntu -- Minimum requirements for lubuntu are comparable to Pentium II or Celeron systems with a 128 Mb RAM configuration, which may yield a slow yet usable system with lubuntu.
[05:42] <tripelb> I would guess he has a 486
[05:42] <grubnwb> nit-wit: can you just paste the command for me becuase i really dont get that
[05:42] <nit-wit> grubnwb, copy and paste the commands from here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/624885/
[05:42] <MK```> ok; where are my old shortcuts?
[05:42] <nit-wit> grubnwb, just did
[05:42] <CarlFK> tripelb: 486 is going to be really painful trying to play movies.
[05:43] <escott> tripelb, no its at least a pentium for win 98
[05:43] <nit-wit> grubnwb, it may be that you need to reboot the cd and run the two commands I hve posted, the punctuation was in the error not your command my bad.
[05:44] <tripelb> escott, thanks. I need to actually get at the physical computer. I'm still trying to talk him into a purchase of something better. Today I repeated tht you could plug a laptop into a monitor. he wondered, can you plug it into a tv? (I cant read him.)
[05:45] <MK```> When I put 2 panels on the top, gnome panel stops working :(
[05:45] <grubnwb> nit-wit: i get the samething (http://paste.ubuntu.com/624886/)
[05:45] <qin> tripelb: rgb to analog converter cost about 50 bucks
[05:45] <nit-wit> grubnwb, do you realize you have installed a distro that is not supported it is EOL end of life.
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: you can build something usable for the price of a 6 pack :)
[05:45] <Ryan_Macy> hey guys im trying to install symfony 2.0 on my lighttpd ubuntu server
[05:45] <Ryan_Macy> does anyone know of a guide?
[05:45] <tripelb> escott carkfk thanks. talking here led me to better search terms and more results. (qin -ty)
[05:45] <Xcytre1> i've put slack ware on a 486
[05:46] <tripelb> actionparsnip, he's not a terminal guy. He's only gui.
[05:46] <Spektreii> slackware on 386 with a math co-processor was my first ever install of linux.
[05:46] <grubnwb> nit-wit: i understand all of my other disks are faulty
[05:46] <tripelb> Xcytre1, the aim is movies, maybe youtube. Not just linux. He uses 98 well.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: look on ebay or local shops for low end systems, should be ok to run Lubuntu on
[05:46] <Spektreii> 4mb of ram...  wheee!
[05:47] <grubnwb> 4mb?! lol
[05:47] <Spektreii> i know right
[05:47] <tripelb> Spektreii, I saw that post. (he has 98)
[05:47] <Spektreii> i still dont know a damn thing though
[05:47] <nit-wit> grubnwb, so here is gthe deal hyou have a script that shows if you load grub correct it should boot. But you have installed a non supported distro. Now at this point we are having problems getting this install to boot, shuld we just put a supporetd version on in its place?
[05:48] <escott> grubnwb, --root-directory not --boot-directory
[05:48] <tripelb> found this! -- 've done a complete install of Ubuntu 5.10 on a 100Mhz with 64Meg of RAM, including KDE and development environment. It worked.
[05:49] <pishguy> hi all. this script dose not running in bash script:http://paste.debian.net/119580/
[05:49] <escott> tripelb, but that is long since eoled you wont find any debs or repos for it
[05:49] <qin> tripelb: some people saying that you can run centOS in cisco... calculators.
[05:51] <DW-Drew> Is it possible to get a list of installed packages from a non-bootable system?
[05:51] <escott> DW-Drew, chroot in and use the normal tricks
[05:51] <phoenixlzx> is there any one using ThinkPad T420?
[05:53] <yagoo> DW-Drew, u can go into a dead system using chroot
[05:53] <DW-Drew> escott, I don't think that's an option, as it's the 32/64 split that makes the system unbootable
[05:54] <escott> DW-Drew, copy the dpkg files off to a fake system and interrogate that system
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: you can get a more than usable system on ebay for 50-75 quid
[05:54] <escott> DW-Drew, although do you really want to trust the package list from a system that has a broken libc
[05:55] <MK```> Ok, since I'm not going to get help with that... The issue I had before of the same iconset being used between reboots is still present. It seems to alternate consistently; if it uses A, it will use B when it reboots, and it will use A next time.
[05:55] <K1LL9> after help with extended desktop in ubunt 11.04 x64
[05:55] <K1LL9> can anyone help me
[05:56] <K1LL9> ubuntu 10.11 the extended desktop worked fine, done a upgrade to 11.04, and now my extended monitors wont work, only same image on both :(
[05:56] <escott> MK```, are these full cold reboots or cold reboot followed by logout/login
[05:56] <DW-Drew> I'm not gonna blind-feed it for a re-install, just looking for a list of what was there so I don't forget things that I specifically installed
[05:56] <MK```> both do the same escott
[05:56] <Spektreii> kill9 depends on the driver you are using...  if its ati or nvidia you need to download the restricted drivers to get them to work right
[05:57] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, ty.  Looks up quid.  (not really)  :)
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: ;)
[05:57] <Spektreii> kill9 from there, the respective control center (i forget what nvidia's is called) will get you on multiple monitors.
[06:01] <pishguy> hi all. this script dose not running in bash script:http://paste.debian.net/119580/
[06:03] <escott> pishguy, remove the sh
[06:04] <IboS> hello all
[06:05] <IboS> i want to put an alias for the following cmd how to edit my .bashrc file to get it good ?
[06:05] <IboS> http://pastebin.com/n4yZWgji
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> IboS: there are examples in the file, have a read, copy the syntax
[06:05] <IboS> ActionParsnip: i tried the simple stuff
[06:06] <IboS> audioencode = cmd
[06:06] <IboS> but it doesn't take all options of the cmd ?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> IboS: what alias do you want and wha is the command for the alias?
[06:07] <IboS> ActionParsnip: check out the pastebin
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> IboS: gimme 2
[06:07] <IboS> http://pastebin.com/n4yZWgji
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> IboS: why not make it into a script
[06:08] <IboS> nope to slow
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> IboS: you can then use arguments and make the command reusable
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> IboS: how will it be slow>?
[06:08] <IboS> anyway
[06:08] <IboS> i don't want a script
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> IboS: how would using it in a script be any slower than an alias?
[06:09] <IboS> that's not the problem
[06:09] <rypervenche> IboS: It's not always about what you want. if it works, it works.
[06:09] <IboS> i don't think so
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> IboS: can you answer though, I can rejig this so you can add it as an alias, no problem
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> IboS: how will it be slower?
[06:10] <Spektreii> Ibos, an alias means that you want to shorten a command or make it easier to remember, the paste that you gave shows multiple flags that you could alias, but youre not going to be able to alias all the flags into a single command.
[06:10] <IboS> Spektreii: ok :)
[06:10] <Spektreii> for example, you could do something like alias mplayerq='mplayer -quiet'
[06:11] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: I doubt he'll answer.
[06:11] <endriago> hola a todos
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> IboS: http://pastebin.com/0wAhBzVU
[06:12] <endriago> hay alguien de chile?
[06:12] <IboS> ActionParsnip: i did that but it doesn't work
[06:13] <IboS> because file names change
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> IboS: or you can use: http://pastebin.com/DHNUuwFU
[06:13] <pishguy> escott: not running:  gksu -m 'Please enter your own password' sep_video
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> IboS: EXACTLY, that's why you need a script
[06:13] <escott> pishguy, you generally want gksudo not gksu
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> IboS: my second paste takes arguments, so you can call the script someting then feed it 2 filenames and they will be used
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> IboS: why is a script too slow (as you say)?
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> escott, is there a difference?  I thought they where the same.
[06:14] <IboS> because i'm too lazy to write it ActionParsni
[06:14] <pishguy> escott: whats different about them ?
[06:14] <Spektreii> lol
[06:14] <pishguy> escott: must be use gksudo ?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> IboS: well you asked how to add it in bashrc, it's exactly the same
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> IboS: and I'm GIVING you the code, so it's not slower at all, is it? It's the same as me giving you the code to put in bashrc
[06:15] <Spektreii> ActionParsnip i think that was the point, to get you to write the script for him
[06:16] <IboS> yeah i had problem with file names
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Spektreii: it's the same as him/her asking for the line to add in bashrc
[06:16] <IboS> and "" '
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> IboS: you need to think more, adding to bashrc and a script are not any slower when you are asking people for pretty much the same text
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> IboS: as I said, the script is reusable as you can give it arguments
[06:17] <rypervenche> IboS: Just write the script then alias the script name, voilà.
[06:17] <escott> pishguy, ZykoticK9 same difference between su and sudo. one asks for the users password the other asks for roots password
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> escott, i don't think so
[06:18] <rypervenche> There are other differences too. I prefer to use sudo because it uses my user's folders and preferences.
[06:18] <grubnwb> hello agian
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> escott: su means switch user, or run as a differnt user, sudo is used to run commands as root
[06:19] <grubnwb> ok now "unknown filesystem" witch makes NO sence at all
[06:19] <escott> man gksu: "gksu  is  a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo."
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> escott, "man gksu" or "man gksudo" they are the same
[06:20] <faryshta> http://pastebin.com/b2E9GBXz I get an error on the last line because that line executes **before** the other commands have finished. How can I avoid that?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> escott: try:    file /usr/bin/gksudo; file /usr/bin/gksu
[06:21] <grubnwb> Grub error: "Unknown Filesystem" please help
[06:21] <theadmin> grubnwb: On which partition?
[06:21] <grubnwb> sdb2
[06:21] <escott> ActionParsnip, ZykoticK9 I'm not saying they are different binaries, just saying they are different commands
[06:21] <theadmin> grubnwb: Not telling me much. Is that the Linux partition?
[06:21] <grubnwb> yes
[06:21] <pishguy> escott: gksudo -m 'Please enter your own password' sep_video   ???? not running
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> escott: how is that possible? they are one and the same thing, the only difference is the name
[06:22] <grubnwb> its a ex4 partition
[06:22] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: gksu is *supposed* to use su as a backend you know
[06:22] <escott> ActionParsnip, the same way busybox is a single binary it checks ARGV[0]
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: doesn't matter what it's supposed to be, the files are identical
[06:23] <grubnwb> theadmin: its an ext4 partition
[06:23] <theadmin> grubnwb: Okay... Odd. You sure your configs of GRUB are fine?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> escott: how is it different when one is a symlink?
[06:23] <escott> ActionParsnip given that gksu is used for guis they may have made it intelligent enough to fail over into gksudo mode, but thats not mentioned in the man pages
[06:23] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: On Ubuntu maybe :D
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: that's some crazy voodoo
[06:23] <IboS> hello
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> :)
[06:23] <grubnwb> theadmin: i just re-installed grub because of the "no such partition" error
[06:23] <IboS> how to code in bash ?
[06:24] <theadmin> IboS: 1) take a piano, 2) go to #bash
[06:24]  * rypervenche headdesks.
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> IboS: the top line of a text file must be #!/bin/bash    then the remaining lines are the commands you want to run
[06:24] <escott> ActionParsnip, lots of binaries do this. you check ARGV[0] and figure out what the command was called as, and then execute a different code path. git-blah does this, busybox does this, gksu does this
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> IboS: mark the file as executable, you have a script ready to roll
[06:24] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, gksu vs gksudo - it's a symlink in Debian as well...
[06:25] <IboS> well that's like batch in windows
[06:25] <IboS> pretty simple
[06:25] <K1LL9> Spektreii are you still on this channel?
[06:25] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: Actually, I now see that they are identical and you use gksu-properties to set the backend
[06:25] <rationalOgre> ActionParsnip: On my arch box I had to install sudo separately. I had su on the system always.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> escott: let me look into ARGV[0]
[06:26] <rationalOgre> fwiw
[06:26] <rypervenche> rationalOgre: Yep, Arch is naked like that by default :P
[06:26] <escott> ZykoticK9, ActionParsnip next time you are in the rescue system notice how everything is just a symlink to /bin/busybox
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> IboS: yes, but bash is a LOT more powerful, its more like powershell in windows
[06:26] <K1LL9> can anyone help me
[06:26] <K1LL9> ubuntu 10.11 the extended desktop worked fine, done a upgrade to 11.04, and now my extended monitors wont work, only same image on both :(
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> escott: do you mean root recovery console?
[06:26] <K1LL9> after help with extended desktop in ubunt 11.04 x64
[06:26] <escott> Copy your initrd from /boot and gunzip it
[06:26] <theadmin> rationalOgre: Most systems don't have sudo, even desktop ones often don't :D
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> K1LL9: what video chip do you use?
[06:27] <escott> everything in /bin will be a symlink to busybox
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> escott: doing it (very up for learning :))
[06:28] <grubnwb> Anyone help me with a grub problem
[06:28] <escott> anyways this was getting far from the point which is that while gksu might work, its not technically the right command in this case because in ubuntu we can su -u root, so to avoid possible problems just use gksudo
[06:28] <escott> s/can/can't/
[06:29] <escott> grubnwb, you still struggling with that? the chroot method is slightly trickier to setup, but is an easier command to execute
[06:29] <escott> !grub | grubnwb
[06:30] <escott> grubnwb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> escott: I cannot gunzip initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic, or am I doing something wrong here?
[06:31] <monish001> Hello. I just installed LAMP on ubuntu server. Why the http.conf is empty by default. This is not so in case of windows.
[06:31] <theadmin> monish001: If I recall right, on Ubuntu it's actually "apache2.conf"
[06:31] <grubnwb> escott: Im getting a "unknown filesystem" error it is a ext4 one though
[06:31] <escott> ActionParsnip, rename it to initrd.gz then gunzip it will create a disk image file you can loop mount
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> escott: ahhh, gotcha. Thanks
[06:32] <K1LL9> ActionParsnip, i am using a thinkpad t400, so what ever they use
[06:32] <K1LL9> is there anyway to find out?
[06:32] <monish001> theadmin: thank you
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> K1LL9, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[06:34] <faryshta> http://pastebin.com/b2E9GBXz I get an error on the last line because that line executes **before** the other commands have finished. How can I avoid that?
[06:35] <escott> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure what type of fs it is though so I can't figure how to loop mount it
[06:35] <theadmin> faryshta: We aren't the JavaScript help channel you know?
[06:36] <escott> ActionParsnip, its not actually a disk image its a cpio which you have to extract
[06:37] <Drone4four> i lost my wirless connection to my router and thus to the internet.  the error message simply says: wireless is disabled by hardware switch.  i googled it and came across this ubuntu forum thread to which i replied and included the input and output of various commands: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1779676
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> escott: i found a command to mount it, just sniffing around
[06:37] <escott> ActionParsnip, cpio -i (beware it drops it into the CWD)
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> escott: mount -t sysfs file mountpoint -o loop
[06:38] <Yuval90> Hello. i installed ubuntu with VM Player on a machine running Windows. I installed an apache server on the ubuntu machine. Is there anyway I can view sites hosted on ubuntu through my windows machine (in the browser)?
[06:39] <K1LL9> ZykoticK9, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[06:39] <K1LL9> ActionParsnip, the dirver i am using: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Yuval90: sure, just access the vmware systems IP address
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> K1LL9: i'm not too great with those, but others may be able to advise
[06:40] <K1LL9> ActionParsnip, thnak you
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> escott: i'm not seeing a bin file in this mounting, let me dig
[06:41] <escott> turns out they don't actually use the symlinks
[06:42] <escott> but you can do the same trick with any busybox just ln -s /bin/busybox mkdir
[06:42] <escott> and then do ./mkdir test
[06:42] <escott> it will make a directory called test
[06:43] <escott> despite the fact that you called ./mkdir which is a symlink to /bin/busybox
[06:43] <Yuval90> ActionParsnip> When i check the DHCP table the virtual host is not showing up
[06:43] <Yuval90> though it does have internet connection
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> escott: and I gues it wil run mkdir as expected
[06:43] <escott> so /bin/busybox gets loaded and looks at the command line and sees "mkdir" and "test" and then makes a dir
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> Yuval90: then its a vmware config you'll need. I'd ask in #vmware
[06:44] <praveen_> i am getting an error while running this command in Quickly- http://paste.ubuntu.com/624909/
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> escott: gotcha, thanks for the lesson :)
[06:44] <Yuval90> thnx
[06:45] <escott> ActionParsnip, its a little disappointing the initrd doesnt have the symlinks, presumably something cpio doesn't support, but it makes all those initial scripts harder as they have to say /bin/busybox mkdir whatever instead of /bin/mkdir whatever
[06:45] <K1LL9> ZykoticK9, are you there?
[06:45] <ZykoticK9> K1LL9, ya?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> escott: tis a bit messy
[06:46] <K1LL9> i found the graphic driver
[06:46] <K1LL9> the dirver i am using: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[06:46] <ZykoticK9> K1LL9, i don't have any suggestions for you dual monitor issue sorry.  Best of luck.
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> escott: well i had to tax my brains. I've nearly done my 12 hour shift and nothing exciting happened at all, so at least there is that
[06:47] <K1LL9> ZykoticK9, thanks
[06:47] <ZykoticK9> K1LL9, actually, System / Preferences / Monitor (or however that works under Unity) - verify that "same image on all monitors" isn't checked.
[06:50] <K1LL9> that is unticked
[06:50] <K1LL9> ZykoticK9, i have that unticked, like the monitor detects my make and model of my dual monitor
[06:50] <K1LL9> and the correct resolutino
[06:50] <ZykoticK9> K1LL9, sorry - i don't have any further suggestions.  Best of luck.
[06:51] <Snakkah> Does anyone here use AWN? I've noticed that Java apps, when they are put as launchers, do not use the launcher icon as the application icon like other apps do. Instead, another icon opens. Why does this happen and is there any way to fix it?
[06:51] <K1LL9> but when i enable it, it comes up with a black window, and doesnt allow anything to be displayed on the desktop/screen, only has the taskbar that comes across
[06:53] <pishguy> escott: not running :(
[06:53] <Drone4four> i lost my wirless connection to my router and thus to the internet.  the error message simply says: wireless is disabled by hardware switch.  i googled it and came across this ubuntu forum thread to which i replied and included the input and output of various commands: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1779676
[06:54] <escott> pishguy, i'm not really sure what this sep_video thing is, but make sure it is in the path or give the full path to it
[06:54] <rationalOgre> Drone4four: Have a switch/button/etc. somewhere on your lapto to enable/disable wireless?
[06:55] <rationalOgre> Drone4four: Or a function key combo.
[06:55] <pishguy> escott: sep_video is shell script:sed -i 's/Section "Device"/Section "Device"\n\tOption "TwinView" "True"\n\tOption "TwinViewOrientation"\"LeftOf"\n\tOption\ "UseEdidFreqs" "False"\n\tOption "MetaModes" "1024x768"\n\tOption "UseDisplayDevice" "CRT,DFP"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:56] <escott> pishguy, well add the #!/bin/bash shebang to it, mark it executable, and if it isn't in the path include the full path in your gksudo command
[06:57] <ZykoticK9> escott, why would pishguy need gksudo for such a command?  Wouldn't sudo make more sense?
[06:57] <Drone4four> as a matter of fact, rationalOgre, i do have a function key which looks like an i with waves emanating from it like a radio tower
[06:57] <Drone4four> i was playing with that function key
[06:58] <Drone4four> and just tried pressing it, but i still can't connect to the internet
[06:58] <rationalOgre> Drone4four: Did you chord the key? Most keys like that you have to hold another key to activate it.
[06:58] <escott> ZykoticK9, I haven't read the script yet :) this all seems horribly fragile pishguy should use xrandr if possible
[06:59] <Drone4four> rationalOgre, what do you mean by chord?
[06:59] <rationalOgre> Drone4four: See the Fn key between your CTRL and Windows keys?
[06:59] <Drone4four> yes
[06:59] <rationalOgre> Hold it and hit the key with the wireless icon
[06:59] <ZykoticK9> escott, ya, i'm not sure why xorg.conf changes would need to be scripted exactly?  but gksudo with sed commands doesn't make any sense to me either.
[06:59] <Drone4four> that's what i did
[06:59] <Drone4four> there, it worked
[06:59] <pishguy> escott: command with gksu and gksudo not running
[06:59] <quietone> I can't get Rhythmbox to import files via ftp (at home). Totem works,  Rb does nothing and I can't find any error msgs. Should this work?
[07:00] <Drone4four> i just had to hold it down for 5 seconds
[07:00] <rationalOgre> Drone4four: Sometimes you have to hit it a time or two.
[07:00] <Drone4four> thanks rationalOgre
[07:00] <rationalOgre> Drone4four: You're welcome.
[07:00] <Drone4four> =D
[07:00] <escott> pishguy, try this with xrandr, if thats not possible change the script to swap some xorg.conf template files around rather than use sed
[07:01] <rationalOgre> Drone4four: For future reference, hitting keys in tandem is called chording.
[07:01] <rationalOgre> Like CTRL+ALT+DEL
[07:02] <pishguy> escott: how to use it for seprator output video?
[07:02] <Drone4four> i'll keep that in mind for future reference, rationalOgre
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> rationalOgre, "chording" a new word for my vocabulary, thanks.
[07:03] <JokesOnYou77> hi all
[07:03] <escott> pishguy, is twinview nvidia? if so you cant use xrandr, but at least just make two files xorg.conf.normal and xorg.conf.twinview and have the script cp the desired file to xorg.conf
[07:04] <escott> pishguy, im too tired to think at this point, but you don't need gksudo for this, you can use normal sudo
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> escott, twinview is nvidia yes.
[07:06] <pishguy> escott: its complete my script : http://paste.ubuntu.com/624920/
[07:07] <rationalOgre> ZykoticK9: It comes from musical instruments, specifically piano. A long time ago I tried to learn emacs from an old manual and it called it "chording", always stuck with me as I played piano as a kid.
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> rationalOgre, DDG gave "Chording means pushing several keys or buttons simultaneously to achieve a result." so exactly what you said - i see the music/piano reference
[07:09] <Guest26781> ?
[07:10] <bigbang> where chrome extensions are stored in ubuntu
[07:10] <rationalOgre> Guest26781: Did you just randomly renamed?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> bigbang: probably in ~/.config/chromium smoewhere
[07:11] <bigbang> ActionParsnip, I am not able to get into directory .config how i can go into it
[07:12] <theadmin> bigbang: Ctrl+H first
[07:12] <pishguy> whats problem in this command: i can't use that in bash script: http://paste.debian.net/119584/
[07:12] <theadmin> bigbang: Any file/folder which starts with a . is hidden
[07:12] <ZykoticK9> bigbang, in a terminal "cd ~/.config" should work
[07:12] <bigbang> thanks
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> bigbang: press CTRL+H to show hidden folders
[07:12] <theadmin> pishguy: That it's split across several lines
[07:13] <pishguy> splited that for paste on paste.debian.net
[07:13] <rationalOgre> a quick google (shocker there) says ~/.cache/google-chrome (if you are using google's chrome, or .cache/chromium
[07:14] <lalalalalalalala> I like Ubuntu for the most part, but I am wondering if there are any tools to help me learn Mandarin?
[07:14] <theadmin> pishguy: Well, gksu is intended for GUI tools, not just for any commands
[07:14] <theadmin> pishguy: You might need to pass all that to gnome-terminal -e for it to work
[07:14] <murlidhar> iced tea plugin is failing to initialize the java applets in natty . it worked pretty good in maverick . can anyone help me set it properly ?
[07:15] <lalalalalalalala> like I like Rosetta Stone but when I pop the CD in it wont install so I would like a program that can either use the Mandarin CDs I have or another application entirely to help me lean
[07:15] <lalalalalalalala> s/lean/learn
[07:15] <pishguy> theadmin: i want to getting password from GUI
[07:16] <theadmin> pishguy: Read the zenity's manual
[07:16] <theadmin> pishguy: It'll help.
[07:16] <theadmin> Though...
[07:16] <theadmin> Not sure here
[07:16] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: 浸泡是最好的方式来学习一门语言
[07:16] <pishguy> theadmin: command is sed . i'm not use zenity for that
[07:17] <lalalalalalalala> rationalOgre I don't have eastern language fonts installed
[07:17] <lalalalalalalala> I need to install the language pack I know
[07:17] <pishguy> theadmin: gksu sed -i 's/ ..................
[07:17] <lalalalalalalala> romajin is ok though
[07:18] <theadmin> pishguy: I know... Well, I dunno, what if you do gksu gnome-terminal -e 'sed -i \'s/ ...
[07:18] <lalalalalalalala> I wish I had programming skills to make rosetta stone work on Ubuntu
[07:19] <pishguy> theadmin: gnome-terminal -e 'sed -i \'s/ ...  not runng from bash script
[07:19] <ZykoticK9> pishguy, if you just replace gksu with sudo does it work?
[07:19] <pishguy> theadmin: its complete my script : http://paste.ubuntu.com/624920/
[07:20] <JokesOnYou77> lalalalalalalala: if you have enough RAM you could always use a windows virtual box
[07:21] <lalalalalalalala> JokesOnYou77, if I could afford a Windows license I would payday isnt til the friday after next
[07:21] <lalalalalalalala> you think I would be running Linux if I could afford 7? lol
[07:22] <rww> I can afford Windows 7 and I run Linux :)
[07:22] <theadmin> lalalalalalalala: That's pretty offensive you know?
[07:22] <lalalalalalalala> why is it offensive theadmin?
[07:23] <theadmin> lalalalalalalala: It indirectly calls all Linux users either people who can't afford Windows or idiots :/
[07:23] <lalalalalalalala> actually no your view is a bit warped, as in my case, I need an application to run that work requires me to run at home
[07:24] <lalalalalalalala> I own no windows license so I run Ubuntu
[07:24] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: how computer proficient are you?
[07:24] <tripelb> There's a channel called #ubuntu-offtopic for this offtopic discussion.
[07:24] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: And I own windows licenses. I chose Ubuntu/Linux.
[07:24] <lalalalalalalala> enough to burn an iso, use software center, edit microsoft word documents in libreoffice
[07:25] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: Then I suggest installing Wine and running rosetta stone through that.
[07:25] <lalalalalalalala> up to this point its been pretty simple
[07:25] <tripelb> But since we are doing it, I have a printer and was going to loan it to a neighbor, then I realized she has Windows and how much of a fuss it would be.
[07:25] <pishguy> theadmin: can you help me ?
[07:25] <theadmin> pishguy: Nope
[07:25] <lalalalalalalala> rationalOgre, wine?
[07:25] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: #winehq is their channel
[07:25] <lalalalalalalala> what is wine?
[07:26] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: yes, it is application compatibility layer for linux.
[07:26] <tripelb> pishguy what's up?
[07:26] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: It allows many windows applications to run in linux.
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> !wine | lalalalalalalala
[07:26] <lalalalalalalala> and thats legal?
[07:26] <theadmin> lalalalalalalala: Completely
[07:26] <tripelb> <goes to winehq to ask
[07:26] <lalalalalalalala> so its an emulator?
[07:26] <pishguy> tripelb:  i can use this command on bash script :  gksu bash /usr/bin/sep.sh
[07:26] <rww> lalalalalalalala: In a sense, but not techincally.
[07:26] <theadmin> lalalalalalalala: No. WINE Is Not an Emulator
[07:26] <lalalalalalalala> I had no idea... cool
[07:27] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: No, It is not an emulator
[07:27] <pishguy> tripelb: *can't
[07:27] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, rationalOgre ;)
[07:27] <rationalOgre> WINE stands for Wine is Not an Emulator
[07:27] <vincentgotajob> r u guys chinese?
[07:27] <theadmin> !cn | vincentgotajob
[07:27] <JokesOnYou77> lalalalalalalala: Whine essentially installs the windows registry in a folder on your computer and translates calls from windows programs to the linux OS
[07:27] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: ?
[07:27] <lalalalalalalala> so ok, I install this "not an emulator" to emulate windows so I can run rosetta stone
[07:27] <theadmin> lalalalalalalala: Yeah, basically
[07:28] <rationalOgre> vincentgotajob: No, I am not.
[07:28] <lalalalalalalala> cool
[07:28] <theadmin> lalalalalalalala: Check http://winehq.org for install instructions
[07:28] <lalalalalalalala> hey thanks I had no idea...
[07:28] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, the two of you bothering to explain to lalala what wine stands for...
[07:28] <JokesOnYou77> lalalalalalalala: check the wine website for Rosetta Stone, see if anyone else has tried or had any success
[07:28] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: Well it's not an emulator for it does no cpu emulation, or whatever
[07:28] <rationalOgre> ZykoticK9: Sorry, I don't know all ubotu's commands yet.
[07:28] <lalalalalalalala> doesnt it work?
[07:28] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: Like ubottu said, it's a compatibility layer :D
[07:28] <rationalOgre> *ubottu
[07:29] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, oh, I know exactly what wine is.  Do you think it will help lala?
[07:29] <tripelb> pishguy sometimes you need to preface it with sudo  so try that.
[07:29] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: Nope :D
[07:29]  * theadmin just doesn't want people to get wrong ideas
[07:29] <rationalOgre> ZykoticK9: meh, not really. Just don't want them kicking around #winehq with "So, how do I get this emulator running".
[07:29] <lalalalalalalala> all this time I have been using Ubuntu lol... that was easy enough
[07:30] <lalalalalalalala> so I think its installing
[07:30] <pishguy> tripelb: i want to call from bash script : its complete my script : http://paste.ubuntu.com/624920/
[07:30] <tripelb> rationalOgre, there's a webpage with all the ubottu commands
[07:30] <JokesOnYou77> lalalalalalalala: it looks like some people have been able to get it to work http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1867
[07:30] <ZykoticK9> !factoid
[07:30] <tripelb> pishguy, I'm going to sleep. I've done all I can tonight.
[07:30] <rationalOgre> I actually used to be involved with WineHQ, they would get "friendly" with people who called it an emulator.
[07:30] <tripelb> pishguy, (sad face)
[07:30] <pishguy> tripelb: ok. thanks
[07:31] <rationalOgre> JokesOnYou77: Yeah, I had looked it up before suggesting he/she try wine.
[07:31] <lalalalalalalala> yeah its version 3.4 because they got it cheaper than the new version 4 by like 50%
[07:31] <rationalOgre> tripelb: Thanks.
[07:31] <JokesOnYou77> rationalOgre: I was doing the same thing and got side-tracked.  Nice one :)
[07:32] <lalalalalalalala> so what makes it not an emulator?
[07:32] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: well, then you should be golden. literally, 3.4 has a gold rating with 1.3.18
[07:32] <theadmin> lalalalalalalala: The fact that it does no CPU emulation.
[07:32] <lalalalalalalala> aha
[07:33] <lalalalalalalala> I get it like gens does actual genesis cpu emulation and wine doesnt? so like if I had a mips processor like in my android phone wine wouldnt work?
[07:34] <yigal> wine should be viewed as as et of libraries
[07:34] <lalalalalalalala> right
[07:34] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: Exactly. All that wine does is exposes an interface that "looks like" windows to the application.
[07:34] <lalalalalalalala> like after spending a lot of time with Ubuntu I get a few things I am just a little slow sometimes lol
[07:34] <th^^> wine is implementation of windows, not an emulator :p
[07:34] <th^^> or, windows libs
[07:34] <rationalOgre> So the application asks to read the hard disks, and wine responds as if it were the windows syscall
[07:35] <lalalalalalalala> is there a mac wine thing for iLife lol
[07:35] <lalalalalalalala> id ditch my mac if there were
[07:35] <lalalalalalalala> cool it works thanks :)
[07:36] <airescript> hey everyone!!!
[07:36] <yigal> o http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX
[07:36] <yigal> lalalalalalalala:
[07:36] <lalalalalalalala> no no I mean I want to run iLife on Ubuntu
[07:36] <airescript> im having a problem with my ubuntu box
[07:36] <a5h15h> tried changing the resolution of grub using startup manager...the resol got screwed up....any fix?....using 10.04..grub 0.97
[07:36] <lalalalalalalala> my mac is very old lol
[07:37] <lalalalalalalala> 2003 I think
[07:37] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: ah, now I understand :)
[07:37] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: PowerPC?>
[07:37] <lalalalalalalala> I have iLife and iMove HD... yeah
[07:37] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: or Intel CPU?
[07:37] <lalalalalalalala> g5
[07:37] <a5h15h> changing the resolution back to default doesnt work
[07:37] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: powerpc
[07:37] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: nice
[07:38] <lalalalalalalala> ive played with a few things for Ubuntu but nothing touches iMovie HD
[07:38] <Zeranoe> Does anyone know how to make a "link" from one file to another? I want to link to /usr/bin/pkg-config in my home directory
[07:38] <lalalalalalalala> that would kick butt if I could run that on my new core i5
[07:38] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: which OS are you using, you say something made in 03?
[07:38] <a5h15h> did manual changes to the menu.lst file...that too doesnt work
[07:38] <airescript> when im installing a softaware it shows a defcon error or something like that can anyone tell me whts going on
[07:38] <lalalalalalalala> panther
[07:38] <airescript> ???
[07:38] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: so pretty modern
[07:38] <lalalalalalalala> modern enough I mean its not tiger or leo modern but yeah
[07:39] <JokesOnYou77> a5h15h: I know this is a somewhat silly question, but have you run update-grub?
[07:39] <lalalalalalalala> 512 ram so I never jumped to leo and tiger didnt offer enough to pay 150 bucks at the time
[07:39] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: ya you have to use a virtual machine for that, but with your specs you cant really
[07:40] <lalalalalalalala> what would be cool if I could run my apps on my core i5 with Ubuntu
[07:40] <a5h15h> JokesOnYou77, nope...should i do it now
[07:40] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: why can't you?
[07:40] <lalalalalalalala> iLife is OSX only
[07:40] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: I see you
[07:40] <yigal> 're tlaking about hypotheticals :D
[07:40] <lalalalalalalala> right
[07:40] <a5h15h> i'm updating the sys since karmic..never paid attention to the grub's version
[07:40] <lalalalalalalala> is there a wine-like thing that runs OSX apps
[07:41] <lalalalalalalala> I mean it would only have to work for iMovie HD '06
[07:41] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: yes but very very slowly
[07:41] <JokesOnYou77> yigal: what is it?
[07:41] <lalalalalalalala> even with 2gig ram and a quad core processor?
[07:41] <murlidhar> yigal: lalalalalalalala is a bot.
[07:41] <murlidhar> yigal: an unwanted one
[07:42] <`blackmk4> how do you list people members in irssi
[07:42] <lalalalalalalala> I am not a bot
[07:42] <yigal> :D
[07:42] <lalalalalalalala> so go blow a goat
[07:42] <Flannel> lalalalalalalala: Please mind your tone.
[07:42] <murlidhar> yigal: lol...it is a bot.
[07:43] <rww> `blackmk4: Do you mean something like /names ?
[07:43] <lalalalalalalala> cool that saves me like $119
[07:43] <`blackmk4> oh nice, thanks
[07:44] <lalalalalalalala> thanks to whoever pointed me to wine
[07:44] <JokesOnYou77> a5h15h: I would, though I'm really a novice.  But if i change anything in grub I know I always forget to run it and my changes don't get implemented.  It doesn't actually change your grub version, it reads the grub config files and updates the grub settings
[07:44] <yigal> `blackmk4: \who #ubuntu, should aslo work
[07:44] <yigal> also work
[07:44] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
[07:44] <yigal> yep, but dead slow
[07:44] <yigal> not worth it on your architecture
[07:44] <crane> hello everyone!
[07:45] <crane> how is  ubuntu 11.04
[07:45] <lalalalalalalala> rationalOgre, thats insane
[07:45] <crane> what?
[07:45] <newuser111> Hi, installation question.  Ubuntu installs fine with swap on last partition of preinstalled Win7 drive, but never gets past grub prompt.  EasyBCD never gets past GRUB4DOS prompt either.  help?
[07:45] <rationalOgre> yigal: JITC-X86 might not run bad
[07:46] <JokesOnYou77> yigal: how about on an i7 with 6 gigs or RAM?  Think there would be ny improvement?
[07:47] <lalalalalalalala> see I cant compile I dont know how and I dont want to break anything
[07:47] <yigal> JokesOnYou77: slight :D
[07:47] <kidjojo1988> hi
[07:47] <kidjojo1988> germany
[07:47] <lalalalalalalala> targz files are still a scary subject for me lol
[07:47] <yigal> rationalOgre: :D
[07:47] <crane> my grub have many options ,  why?
[07:47] <kidjojo1988> ??????
[07:47] <yigal> crane: grub is sweet
[07:48] <kidjojo1988> lol
[07:48] <kidjojo1988> lappen
[07:48] <yigal> crane: what do you want?
[07:48] <crane> sweet??
[07:48] <lalalalalalalala> I fish with grubs XD yay I am in the conversation XD
[07:48] <crane> i don't know what's  your meaning ,  hehe!
[07:48] <robin0800_> crane, did you run sudo update-grub
[07:48] <yigal> crane: that's a must!
[07:48] <crane> no
[07:49] <crane> ah!  haha!
[07:49] <crane> thanks
[07:49] <crane> i change the vison 9.10 to 10.04
[07:49] <thedark> using Ubuntu 10.10. When I try to empty the trash, it just hangs saying it is "preparing". Please help me!
[07:50] <lalalalalalalala> rationalOgre, http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/screenshots/macosx2.jpg this made me laugh
[07:50] <bullgard4> I bought a computer to use  64-bit-ubuntu Desktop editon. I'd like to partition the HDD with a 10-GB-/root-partition. Will this be sufficient for a dist-Upgrade later?
[07:51] <lalalalalalalala> bullgard4, id say 20, I have dabbled with 64 bit but it seems unstable sometimes
[07:51] <yigal> bullgard4: it depends on what you need to install in /
[07:52] <lalalalalalalala> some of the applications that work perfectly well with the regular 32 bit version behave rather oddly with their 64 bit counterparts, but when doing things like video encoding, 32 bit cant touch it
[07:52] <bullgard4> lalalalalalalala: unstable« is a rather general term. How is stability related to the size of the root patition?
[07:53] <bullgard4> s/patition/partition/
[07:53] <rationalOgre> bullgard4: I went with a 30gb root but that's because I was being cautious.
[07:53] <lalalalalalalala> nothing I am just saying that applications behave unstably sometimes crash without warning
[07:53] <ufo_> hello everyone,I want to ubuntu for chinese people,please tell me address
[07:53] <rationalOgre> !cn | ufo
[07:53] <lalalalalalalala> hard drives are cheap, go get one from the trash heap at your local computer shop I am sure they threw out an 80gig
[07:54] <ufo_> ok,thank you
[07:55] <bullgard4> yigal: I do not know what I need to install in / . I thought that the ubuntu installer will decide what to install in /, what to install in /home, what to install in "/usr_and_such".
[07:55] <yigal> bullgard4: for the most part 10gb for many purposes
[07:55] <yigal> bullgard4: for 64 or 32 systems
[07:56] <lalalalalalalala> im so glad flash finally works the way its suppose to
[07:56] <bullgard4> yigal: Does your statement include a dist-upgrade?
[07:56] <rationalOgre> bullgard4: you really only need partitions for root, home and swap. and truth be told you could get away with just root and swap
[07:56] <yigal> bullgard4: of course, but leave at least 1gb empty
[07:56] <rationalOgre> swap should be 2x ram.
[07:57] <yigal> bullgard4: if you do that no problems
[07:57] <yigal> bullgard4: especially because it's ssd
[07:57] <yigal> it's a fast file system
[07:57] <thedark> someone help me I can't empty my trash
[07:57] <yigal> bullgard4: if you want to be very precacious then 2gb
[07:57] <thedark> it just hangs and says "preparing" forever
[07:57] <yigal> thedark: yes ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ that's where trash is
[07:58] <lalalalalalalala> thedark sudo rm -rf /.trash
[07:58] <yigal> thedark: run the following in a terminal
[07:58] <lalalalalalalala> ive had to do this
[07:58] <yigal> rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[07:58] <bullgard4> rationalOgre: The rule "swap should be 2x ram." seems to stem from old times. I have got 4 GB RAM, and for this amount of RAM the rule seems to be no longer applicable.
[07:58] <yigal> bullgard4: yes I agree
[07:58] <rationalOgre> bullgard4: yeah. Sorry, I'm one of the old guard.
[07:59] <a5h15h> trying to change resolution of grub(0.97) from menu.lst file...but this method doesnt seem to work...
[07:59]  * rationalOgre started using linux when the choices were pretty much Slackware, Debian and Red Hat.
[07:59] <thedark> okay thanks, trying it now
[07:59] <yigal> good
[07:59] <a5h15h> is there a way to get back to default?
[08:00] <thedark> okay it almost worked
[08:00] <lalalalalalalala> now if only there were a way to get netflix to work
[08:00] <thedark> there are still 25 files  that weren't deleted
[08:01] <thedark> but they don't show up in the terminal
[08:01] <a5h15h> after selecting the appropriate kernel the screen gets scrambled till the GDM appears
[08:01] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: Unfortunately, that is one thing wine won't work for. Stupid M$ specific plugins...
[08:01] <theadmin> bullgard4: Haha yeah, I wouldn't want to make a 12-gig swap xD
[08:01] <lalalalalalalala> DRM I kno
[08:01] <lalalalalalalala> if it werent for stupid DRM
[08:01] <yigal> thedark: thedark ok the trash folder is a bit complicated
[08:02] <thedark> you're telling me
[08:02] <yigal> thedark: :D, can you go to ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged/ and tell me if there is anything in there?
[08:02] <bullgard4> theadmin: How much swap size does hibernate require?
[08:02] <yigal> bullgard4: non
[08:02] <yigal> none
[08:02] <yigal> bullgard4: it's stored on disk space not ram
[08:02] <thedark> I'll do anything
[08:03] <thedark> I am in that directory
[08:03] <thedark> ls returns nothing
[08:03] <yigal> suspend is where it's stored but much less than 4gb in most cases
[08:03] <yigal> thedark: ok
[08:03] <yigal> hmm wow :D
[08:03] <theadmin> bullgard4: As much as there's RAM being used atm
[08:03] <archana8763> Hi, I have a multicd script..  But I can't execute it because it keeps saying "Permission denied"... But I did chmod +x  many times on the files...  When I go to properties window and choose "allow executing file as program", the check box never gets ticked..    How shall I make these executable? I am using the admin account only.
[08:03] <yigal> the system is powered down so nothing is in memory, at least when the computer is off
[08:04] <theadmin> archana8763: You *may* need to do "sudo chmod +x" on the file
[08:04] <bullgard4> theadmin: ok.
[08:04] <archana8763> theadmin, Ok, I am going to try it now.
[08:05] <yigal> thedark: ok what about ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[08:05] <yigal> thedark: did I ask you that?
[08:05] <xgt001> hey guys
[08:05] <lalalalalalalala> http://www.hulu.com/watch/248089/americas-got-talent-see-the-silhouettes#s-p1-sr-i1 just wow
[08:05] <xgt001> wat was the battery life u got in 10.10 and 10.04
[08:05] <cafenet> is it hard to have ur own distro?
[08:05] <archana8763> theadmin, It is still the same.
[08:05] <thedark> also nothing
[08:05] <xgt001> wat was the battery life u got in 10.10 and 10.04?
[08:06] <theadmin> archana8763: Hm, what if we do "sudo chmod a+x file"?
[08:06] <yigal> supposedly atom has slightly worse battery life in 11.04 due to the kernel, but I haven't noticed
[08:07] <lalalalalalalala> cafenet, explain "own distro"
[08:07] <xgt001> yigal, did u get same battery life in both 10.10 and 10.04?
[08:07] <theadmin> xgt001: In 10.04 it lasted about 6 hours for me
[08:07] <yigal> cafenet: how custom do you want it
[08:07] <yigal> xgt001: yes about 4 hours
[08:07] <theadmin> cafenet: One word: Arch
[08:07] <lalalalalalalala> yigal on my laptop it only has worse battery life if you use unity 3d
[08:07] <archana8763> theadmin, no effect. Any other command?
[08:07] <lalalalalalalala> if you use unity 2d or "classic" its about the same as 10.10
[08:08] <theadmin> archana8763: Hm, nope... Do you have read permissions to the file though?
[08:08] <xgt001> i rolled back to 10.04 from natty ...i have ati 6370m card
[08:08] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: as theadmin said it depends on arch although I think he's refering to Archlinux distribution
[08:08] <xgt001> i cant install proprietary driver
[08:08] <theadmin> yigal: Yeah, to Arch.
[08:08] <yigal> theadmin: :D rockin distro
[08:08] <yigal> theadmin: imo
[08:08] <archana8763> theadmin, I think yes I can open the sh file using gedit.
[08:08] <xgt001> in 10.04 can u help please?
[08:08] <theadmin> yigal: Yeah, rocking and rolling xD
[08:08] <theadmin> archana8763: Does it start with "#!/bin/bash"?
[08:09] <lalalalalalalala> I find 11.04 to suck up no extra battery life if I stick with 2d which is fine as 3d effects are meh to me
[08:09] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: it has much to do with the type of cpu you're using
[08:09] <archana8763> theadmin, Yes.
[08:09] <xgt001> lalalalalalalala: natty kernel has this confirmed bug of power regression we cant help
[08:09] <theadmin> archana8763: Okay, I'm out of ideas. Weird
[08:09] <rationalOgre> archana8763: output of ls -l for the file?
[08:10] <lalalalalalalala> it uses less than XP did lol I noticed around 2 hours or so with XP and I get 3.5 hours with 11.04
[08:10] <yigal> archana8763: pastebin it
[08:10] <yigal> archana8763: if you know how, that is
[08:10] <archana8763> rationalOgre, -rw------- 1 archana archana 17679 2011-05-27 06:03 multicd.sh
[08:10] <yigal> archana8763: you got to get that +x
[08:10] <thedark> it has to be a problem with these last 27 files
[08:11] <lalalalalalalala> kernel 3.0 is out now and even though nothing changed im sure its going to magically be better :-P
[08:11] <thedark> I was able to delete two of them completely, one by one
[08:11] <archana8763> theadmin, thanks for trying/
[08:11] <rationalOgre> yigal: archana8763 chmod u+x filename
[08:11] <yigal> archana8763: you can also do an sh multicd.sh
[08:11] <xgt001> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131
[08:11] <archana8763> yigal, I tried +x so many times.
[08:11] <th^^> how to disable panel hiding with unity2d? :/
[08:11] <yigal> archana8763: ok
[08:11] <rationalOgre> archana8763: chmod u+x filename (not just +x)
[08:11] <theadmin> rationalOgre: We just did an a+x
[08:11] <theadmin> rationalOgre: Not helping
[08:12] <yigal> archana8763: what about chmod 0755 multicd.sh
[08:12] <rationalOgre> theadmin: ah, sorry, didn't see that.
[08:12] <archana8763> rationalOgre, I did. And the ls -l now shows : -rw------- 1 archana archana 17679 2011-05-27 06:03 multicd.sh
[08:12] <olskolirc> me
[08:12] <yigal> archana8763: can you copy that file to another name?
[08:13] <yigal> archana8763: your file system sounds like it has problems if you aren't able to change permissions
[08:13] <yigal> archana8763: is the file located on an external partion?
[08:13] <archana8763> yigal, yes, I can copy the file.
[08:13] <archana8763> yigal, yes, in an external partition.. C: drive.
[08:13] <yigal> archana8763: ah
[08:13] <yigal> archana8763: ok that's it
[08:13] <theadmin> archana8763: There's your problem
[08:13] <rationalOgre> indeed
[08:13] <theadmin> archana8763: NTFS doesn't let you modify permissions
[08:14] <theadmin> archana8763: Copy it to an extX partition
[08:14] <yigal> your home folder
[08:14] <yigal> for instance
[08:14] <JokesOnYou77> Isn't there a way to mount an NTFS partition so that it give you root permissions for all files?
[08:14] <yigal> JokesOnYou77: yes, but beer doesn't help me remember :D
[08:15] <JokesOnYou77> I haven't figured it out yet, but I looked into it for my shaed data partition
[08:15] <rationalOgre> JokesOnYou77: you have to edit /etc/fstab for that
[08:15] <JokesOnYou77> rationalOgre: oh?
[08:15] <lalalalalalalala> ugh I cant learn any more chinese tonight
[08:15] <archana8763> yigal, theadmin, rationalOgre  Thank you for helping me. I will do that.
[08:15] <yigal> archana8763: ok, you're almost there
[08:16] <vincentgotajob> lalalalalalalala: u r learning chinese?
[08:16] <lalalalalalalala> it took some learning to figure out wine and to figure out sound and all that
[08:16] <lalalalalalalala> yeah
[08:16] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: I've only studied Japanese
[08:16] <rationalOgre> JokesOnYou77: Yeah. it's annoying. I was fighting with it the other day.
[08:17] <rationalOgre> lalalalalalalala: So you got it all working ok?
[08:17] <lalalalalalalala> yigal watashi wa nihon-go wadu hanasu ka.
[08:17] <JokesOnYou77> rationalOgre: have you found a guide or forum post on it?  I'm planning on repartitioning in a few weeks
[08:17] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: very nice
[08:17] <yigal> lalalalalalalala: so you speak a little nihongo also then
[08:18] <lalalalalalalala> kishon pippon hanasaom
[08:18] <lalalalalalalala> I have to learn these for  work lol
[08:18] <theadmin> Sounds like swearing for me xD
[08:18] <vish> !ot
[08:18] <lalalalalalalala> they were like "well since you learned Japanese, mandarin wont be hard"
[08:18] <theadmin> lalalalalalalala: rofl
[08:18] <rationalOgre> JokesOnYou77: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G is what I was using.
[08:18] <yigal> rofl
[08:18] <lalalalalalalala> it really is a lot alike
[08:19] <lalalalalalalala> other than ottonics, its the same
[08:19] <lalalalalalalala> well the base is
[08:19] <yigal> not to me, I tried a little Mandarin it's not easy
[08:19] <bazhang> lalalalalalalala, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <lalalalalalalala> alrighty
[08:19] <yigal> I mean character wise it's fine
[08:19] <yigal> but speaking it
[08:19] <bazhang> yigal, lets get back on topic please
[08:20] <mkquist> JokesOnYou77: looking to be able to create files on ntfs?
[08:20] <yigal> :D
[08:20] <dr_willis> would someone have a clue why with samba/window shares. the smb:// shows One device (my NAS) but the other pc's dont show up. BUT if i enter their name   smb://slimpc    they do work.
[08:21] <lalalalalalalala> yigal get into #ubuntu-offtopic with me
[08:21] <JokesOnYou77> mkquist: I've been using a swhared data partition between Win7 and ubuntu but I can't do thingd like share folders on the NTFS data partition when I'm in ubuntu
[08:21] <yigal> dr_willis: sorry dude I used SAMBA about 5 years ago for network printing and I'm glad I don't have to do more with it
[08:21] <theadmin> yigal: Don't bother if you don't know the reply
[08:21] <dr_willis> actually the 'NAS' shows up under smb://   i see   'NAS' and 'Workgroup' so its showing up where ive never seen anything else show up befor.
[08:21] <rationalOgre> dr_willis: Need to change your workgroup setting?
[08:21] <dr_willis> rationalOgre,  ive double checked and I think everything is in 'workgroup' workgroup.
[08:21] <yigal> theadmin: ok :(
[08:22] <JokesOnYou77> Really, I'd like to be able to have use the same folders/files for iTunes and OneNote in my Win7 Virtual Box in Ubuntu as I do in my Win7 partition
[08:22] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Install the Guest Additions and enable shared folders
[08:22] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: That's the basic drill
[08:22] <archana8763> theadmin, yigal, rationalOgre touch: missing file operand Try `touch --help' for more information.
[08:22] <dr_willis> The default workgroup for samba in ubuntu is 'workgroup' isent it?
[08:22] <archana8763> I can execute the file now but it says this
[08:23] <theadmin> archana8763: Sounds like a problem inside the script
[08:23] <rationalOgre> archana8763: what theadmin said. Pastebin the script?
[08:23] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: I know, and I have, but it doen't work when the files are in an NTFS partition because ubuntu doesn't have premissions for them
[08:23] <JokesOnYou77> rationalOgre: thanks for the link by the way
[08:23] <archana8763> rationalOgre, Ok.
[08:24] <rationalOgre> JokesOnYou77: No problem. It didn't work for me but I think that's more because the drive is old and crappy and might be dead. *lol*
[08:24] <mkquist> JokesOnYou77: it all comes down to how you mount the drive in ubuntu, as far as permissions are concerned
[08:25] <archana8763> rationalOgre, http://paste.ubuntu.com/624953/
[08:25] <JokesOnYou77> rationalOgre: nice.  I actually just did a full 11.04 install on a dead drive; I created 25 GB partitions across the drive untill I found one that was undamaged
[08:25] <mkquist> JokesOnYou77: maybe this will help? http://ubuntu.swerdna.org/ubuntfs.html
[08:26] <phong_> hi guys
[08:26] <JokesOnYou77> mkquist: Nice!
[08:48] <lavenderdawn> I don't like the new desktop with 11.04. How do I use the older version?
[08:48] <rww> !classic | lavenderdawn
[08:48] <rationalOgre> Heh, the floodbots are fighting with the server
[08:48] <rww> rationalOgre: Not really. The network's just going crazy :)
[08:48] <lavenderdawn> Oh ok. I haven't seen session box before. Is it at the way bottom?
[08:48] <crane> hello  everyone！
[08:48] <rww> lavenderdawn: yup, it shows up after you put in your username
[08:48] <rationalOgre> lavenderdawn: when you reach the login screen, click on your icon, then down below where it says Unity change it to Classic
[08:48] <ma5t3rw1tt> hello
[08:48] <crane> who can tell me how to use xchat!
[08:48] <rationalOgre> and someone beat me to it.
[08:48] <lavenderdawn> ok thank you. you are awesome
[08:48] <crane> me ?
[08:48] <ma5t3rw1tt> xchat is easy
[08:48] <rationalOgre> crane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/624953/
[08:48] <crane> eh
[08:48] <rationalOgre> crane woops wrong one
[08:48] <rww> crane: try /join #xchat
[08:48] <rationalOgre> http://xchat.org/docs/start/
[08:48] <rationalOgre> there
[08:48] <crane> ok
[08:48] <thebastl> hi anyone here that is able to sign in to icq again with empathy?
[08:48] <theadmin> rww: Wow, the first time I see someone with an op status here
[08:48] <thebastl> here with pidgin its working and with empathy not
[08:48] <rationalOgre> wow... icq... I haven't heard of that in forever. Didn't know it still existed.
[08:48] <rww> theadmin: yeah, we don't usually sit here opped up. We lost ChanServ for a while and I'm paranoid, so...
[08:48] <ma5t3rw1tt> theblastl: search google
[08:48] <theadmin> rww: How can you lose chanserv?
[08:48] <dr_willis> xchat homepage has docs.. xchat HELP menu item. has info also. :)
[08:48] <rww> theadmin: netsplit happened, ChanServ was on the other side of it from me
[08:48] <ma5t3rw1tt> or use similar settings found in pidgin
[08:49] <theadmin> rww: Oh, oopsy :(
[08:49] <theadmin> rww: I don't even notice them cause I ignore joins and quits on this channel -- or else my screen gets flooded
[08:49] <rww> theadmin: the network's been going crazy for a few minutes :)
[08:50] <flack> nice flood
[08:50] <dr_willis> If i have a working 'full' install (/ and swap partitions) on a external USB hd. and i 'dd' the hd to a new hd (bigger hd)  what else should i need to do to get the new HD booting/working properly?  I know gparted can resize the partitions.  would i need to watch out for the UUID's changeing?  anything else to watch for>?
[08:51] <crane> i don't know how to use xchat to come wikipedia!　　ｗｈｏ　ｃａｎ　ｔｅｌｌ　ｍｅ
[08:51] <dr_willis> crane,  clarify what you mean.. wikipdeia is a web site.. xchat is an irc client...
[08:51] <rationalOgre> dr_willis: Did you not see my messages above?
[08:51] <crane> yes
[08:51] <crane> i want use xchat to widipedia irc
[08:52] <crane> you know what's my meaning ?
[08:52] <plouffe>  /join #wikipedia
[08:52] <dr_willis> rationalOgre, ok. so dd keeps uuid. so  i dont want to have both old/new hds plugged in when booting.
[08:52] <rationalOgre> dr_willis: yes
[08:52] <dr_willis> crane,  you want to jouin the wikipedia channel? see what plouffe  said.
[08:53] <crane> i can't see anything
[08:53] <theadmin> dr_willis: dd preserves UUIDs if I recall right. Also, I'd use /dev/disk/by-label/, it's pretty helpful ;)
[08:53] <diablotin> Could someone help me, I have a small question
[08:53] <dr_willis> crane,     http://xchat.org/docs/start/
[08:54] <dr_willis> did a lubuntu install onto a 8gb flash drive. dding the flash drive to a 60gb external USB hd now as a 'test' of cloneing the setup.
[08:54] <dr_willis> seemed faster then reinstalling from cd. but dd is taking a lot of time. :)
[08:54] <theadmin> dr_willis: dd is slower on Windows so you should be happy you're not using it on that xD
[08:55] <dr_willis> theadmin,  but sadly - my usb hard drives all seem faster on windows.. :(
[08:55] <dr_willis> theres still some odd bugs causing slow usb decvice speeds in ubuntu it seems.
[08:55] <theadmin> dr_willis: That's cause they're likely in NTFS and ntfs-3g is slow
[08:55] <dr_willis> theadmin,  not  this slow.. :)
[08:55] <theadmin> dr_willis: owait *facepalm*
[08:56] <monish001> !guidelines
[08:57] <theadmin> Barefoot-Ubuntui: Please don't nickflood
[08:58] <rationalOgre> dr_willis: You might want to repartition and switch to a /root, /home, swap setup. Or perhaps a /root, /home, /var, swap setup
[08:59] <theadmin> rationalOgre: Why the separate /root? That one almost always is empty
[08:59] <dr_willis> its only going from a 8gb flash to a 60gb usb hd  so  its not like im doing a lot with it. :)
[08:59] <rww> theadmin: people tend to say /root when they mean / for some reason
[08:59] <rationalOgre> theadmin: I was using /root to refer to just /
[08:59] <theadmin> rww: oh lol
[08:59] <rationalOgre> because visually / just kinda disappears
[09:00] <rww> oops
[09:00] <dr_willis>  /root/ by itself is handy if you want to delete the linux install. :)    I also keep some ISO files in /root/  to allow me to make grub2 boot the ISO files. THEN i an boot them, and reinstall from ISO file. which is a lot faster then any other methods ive seen
[09:00] <rationalOgre> if I were to say / /var /home someone might think it was just a miskey.
[09:00] <dr_willis> i mean /boot/ :)
[09:00] <dr_willis> actually I think grub2 can boot ISO files from NTFS these days.. i need to try that.
[09:01] <rationalOgre> dr_willis: yeah I've considered doing /boot in a small partition
[09:01] <theadmin> 100mb for /boot is more than enough. Also.
[09:01] <dr_willis> set up a 'system reinstall rescue partition' that uses the iso and perhaps a small  persistant savce.
[09:01] <theadmin> dr_willis, rationalOgre: make /boot an ext2 to support older versions of grub xD
[09:01] <dr_willis>  my /boot/ is 5gb.. I have 5+ iso image files on it.
[09:02] <dr_willis> and a backup of the grub 40_custome file that puts the iso image files in the grub2 menu. :)
[09:03] <dr_willis> but this is a testing box right now. so i dont have any of that setup yet.
[09:04] <theadmin> I wouldn't install grub2 just for the iso-boot capability
[09:04] <dr_willis> I dont see much need to use the older grubs - im only using grub2 these days
[09:04] <vincentgotajob> what's difference when u install ubuntu in the virtual box?
[09:04] <xz> Hi all
[09:04] <theadmin> dr_willis: It stores configs under /etc which is senseless
[09:05] <dr_willis> vincentgotajob,  theres some issues with unity in the older versions of vbox. you have to use unity-2d or the gnome-classic desktop. but i think theres fixs in the newer vbox versions.
[09:05] <theadmin> vincentgotajob: It's in virtual box
[09:05] <theadmin> dr_willis: Unity worked just fine in 4.0
[09:05] <dr_willis> theadmin,  not actually true for grub2 . but i dont want to argue details. :)
[09:06] <dr_willis> ive not used vbox in some time.   just recall you really should use the latest vbox to get unity working best.
[09:06] <theadmin> dr_willis: Hm? I mean, the /etc/default/grub thing? Or is it just Ubuntu?
[09:06] <rww> theadmin: /etc/default/grub is a Debian/Ubuntu thing.
[09:06] <theadmin> rww: oic
[09:06] <rww> theadmin: it's used to generate grub2's actual configuration in /boot/something/
[09:07] <theadmin> rww: /boot/grub/grub.cfg, yes
[09:07] <dr_willis> theadmin,  technically those are configs to 'generate' the actual grub.cfg config.    with your own /boot/ the grub.cfg can stay safely there. if i delte my ubuntu installs and keep /boot/ grub will still work. I can then delete the ubuntu / and other partions. keep and boot /boot/ (and the iso file) and reinstall.
[09:07] <dr_willis> every bootloader over theyears has had its own share of quirks.
[09:08] <theadmin> dr_willis: That's true, of course
[09:08] <dr_willis> grub1 config under Ubuntu - was very very weird in many ways also.. use a single config file  with nexted comments to controll the  program and define the menu = hard to underatand at first.
[09:08] <theadmin> dr_willis: I still have to check burg out
[09:08] <dr_willis> ive not heard many great things about burg other then 'omg its sexy'
[09:08] <vincentgotajob> dr_willis, can I use some 3D effect in the vb?
[09:08] <dr_willis> but last i tried it = unbootable system
[09:09] <dr_willis> vincentgotajob,  you want the newest verison of vbox i hear for it to work
[09:09] <theadmin> dr_willis: I see. Not good.
[09:09] <theadmin> brb.
[09:09] <dr_willis> dd from usb flash to usb hd done --> 8036285952 bytes (8.0 GB) copied, 2119.35 s, 3.8 MB/s
[09:09] <dr_willis> seems a bit slow.
[09:10] <dr_willis> but i guess that is sort of a worse case situation.
[09:13] <theadmin> dr_willis: Am back, but let's take this discussion to a pm or else we might have trouble with those serious ops here
[09:14] <dr_willis> getting ready to reboot to my moved/copied Lubuntui install. :) so i may be a bit.
[09:14] <theadmin> dr_willis: Roger that, see ya in that bit
[09:14] <dr_willis> gparted gave me a big warning to not change stuff ion the new hd. untill after a reboot. :) good old gparted.
[09:15]  * theadmin likes my fdisk
[09:15] <tsaknorris> hmmm ubuntus own GPU driver is very good and i dont want to use fglx driver for my radeon, but one game needs it (because i cant see the units on screen) but with that radeon driver i can see the units, but screen isnt running smoothly :/ its lagging
[09:15] <theadmin> cfdisk*
[09:15] <dinesh_> how to do networking in ubuntu
[09:15] <tsaknorris> can i tweak that ubuntus own gpu driver?
[09:16] <theadmin> dinesh_: Weird question, please elaborate
[09:16] <theadmin> tsaknorris: It's open-source, but you'd need some good C knowledge there
[09:16] <tsaknorris> i tryed to make xorg.conf file but 11.04 didnt like the idea
[09:17] <dinesh_> i have laptop and desktop installed with ubuntulo11.04. i have configured for windows very easily for printer in networking. in ubuntu i need the assistance to setup the networking
[09:17] <tsaknorris> iknow its something very very small what i have to tweak :D because if only units are "missing" not drawing correctly to the screen
[09:18] <tsaknorris> i think that some parameters may help
[09:19] <SuperFaIL> hey ppl
[09:19] <theadmin> Hello, SuperFaIL
[09:21] <tsaknorris> hi :)
[09:22] <tsaknorris> i need to make some bananachocolate milkshake now :D after that i continue this quest of hunting mighty parameters of GPU driver :P
[09:23]  * SuperFaIL is jealous of your milkshake
[09:23]  * SuperFaIL is hungry now
[09:23] <tsaknorris> ^^.
[09:23] <SuperFaIL> I'm hungry now .. .
[09:24] <tsaknorris> i will come back
[09:32] <Evanescence> how to use telnet to login with username admin and password ? I saw man, but can not find some option to let me follow argument username and password.
[09:33] <theadmin> Evanescence: telnet is not a secure protocol. If a name and password are required, they will be asked interactively.
[09:33] <dr_willis> you login as your user Evanescence  then use sudo as needed
[09:33] <Evanescence> theadmin: no command way, not interactive ?
[09:33] <theadmin> dr_willis: Oh there you are. Back not left yet? xD
[09:34] <theadmin> Evanescence: None
[09:34] <dr_willis> sage: telnet [-4] [-6] [-8] [-E] [-L] [-a] [-d] [-e char] [-l user]
[09:34] <Evanescence> dr_willis: I hope that I can use some comamnd line in script to login
[09:34] <Jordan_U_> Evanescence: telnet is not a secure way to log in. Don't try to, even non-interactively.
[09:34] <dr_willis> Evanescence,  theres old school ways of doing that.. but with ssh, its easier to setup
[09:34] <theadmin> Evanescence: I suggest you use ssh, really
[09:34] <Evanescence> Jordan_U_: no, I login my localhost, mldonkey mlnet
[09:34] <dr_willis> ssh - definatly the way to  do it. forget telnet exists. :)
[09:34] <theadmin> dr_willis: noooo. MUDs ftw!
[09:35] <Jordan_U_> Evanescence: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[09:35] <dr_willis> Theres muds that work in browsers/mud clients. :)
[09:35] <dr_willis> i imagine theres muds taht use ssh these days.
[09:35] <theadmin> dr_willis: None I know
[09:35] <Evanescence> Jordan_U_: I am writing a script to let me login mldonkey with telnet.
[09:35] <dr_willis> Ive not mudded in years. but i recall seeing some that were working on a browser front end.
[09:36] <dr_willis> Evanescence,  clarify what that means.
[09:36] <theadmin> dr_willis: Yeah I know.
[09:36] <dr_willis> Usage: telnet [-4] [-6] [-8] [-E] [-L] [-a] [-d] [-e char] [-l user]   ---->  telnet -l USERNAME   servername
[09:36] <Jordan_U_> Evanescence: That's not an end goal. Why do you want to login to mldonkey with telnet? What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[09:37] <dr_willis> but you can set up ssh with keys were you dont need to give a password.
[09:37] <Evanescence> dr_willis: Jordan_U_ just login, and some other function like search and check out reoult etc, all in one script. that's it
[09:37] <Evanescence> dr_willis: i see
[09:38] <luyiwen> wine
[09:38] <Evanescence> dr_willis: test your command
[09:38] <dr_willis> Evanescence,  i dont have a telnet server to even connect to.. ive not used telnet in 7+ years.. ssh is the way to do that stuff these days
[09:39] <dr_willis> mldonky has a telnet interface you are saying and you are connecgint to it. (ive not used mldonkey in years)
[09:39] <Abhijit> we used telnet to chitchat in our college when we first time discoverted telnet!!! :-D
[09:39] <Evanescence> dr_willis: yeah, but I have not installed ssh, btw, login localhost will not get attacked. right ?
[09:40] <dr_willis> localhost is local.. so  unless someons is sitting in your chair - it should be safe. :)
[09:40] <Evanescence> dr_willis: 0:)
[09:40] <dr_willis> not sure what you mean by 'login localhost' however.
[09:40] <Evanescence> dr_willis: yeah, exactlly.
[09:40] <dr_willis> I would suggest installing ssh, and learning how to use ssh. You will  never want to use telnet again.
[09:41] <theadmin> dr_willis: Somehow most people miss "into" after "login"
[09:41] <Evanescence> dr_willis: oooo. well. just login 127.0.0.1, so does it right now ?
[09:41] <Evanescence> theadmin: so ... I login is different with login into ? my english is poor, sorry
[09:42] <theadmin> Evanescence: It just makes no sense without the preposition
[09:42] <Guest10514> I have problem in installing ruby and rubygem
[09:42] <dr_willis> localhost = 127.0.0.1 the local/current machine.. so im not sure what the question is even asking. :)   'ssh localhost' is a way to test that ssh is working i guess. same with telnet.
[09:43] <theadmin> RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[09:43] <theadmin> Guest10514: What is your problem?
[09:43] <dr_willis> but thats not really making anything safer..
[09:43] <Evanescence> theadmin: well, i need to find way by self. now
[09:43] <llutz> telnet (client) is still a handy thing to test stuff (http, smtp etc.pp), so please don't say "telnet generally is evil". Just the telnet-service on unsecured connections is
[09:44] <Evanescence> dr_willis: i see. google it again
[09:44] <dr_willis> Evanescence,  in the old says you could script telnet via use of the 'expect' scripts; but if youa re just automating telnet login.. thats a bit extreme.
[09:44] <Guest10514> theadmin, i'm trying to install ruby by using apt-get but it is waiting for headers and after several min it gives connection error
[09:44] <dr_willis> old days...
[09:44] <Evanescence> llutz: agree
[09:44] <dr_willis> You would be better off learning ssh, then learning 'expect'
[09:44] <theadmin> Guest10514: Switch to a different repo
[09:44] <tsaknorris> im back :)
[09:44] <Guest10514> theadmin, How?
[09:45] <theadmin> Guest10514: uhm, uh...
[09:45] <Guest10514> theadmin, sorry i'm new in linux
[09:45] <theadmin> Anyone - what's the alternative to /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist in APT, again?
[09:45] <Evanescence> dr_willis: i see, ssh, then expect , right . i will
[09:45] <OerHeks> !sources
[09:45] <dr_willis> Evanescence,  with ssh, you dont need to use expect to auto-login without asking for a password. You setup ssh keys. and no need for password then
[09:45] <theadmin> Guest10514: That.
[09:45] <dr_willis> !info expect
[09:46] <Evanescence> dr_willis: I heared it before, public key and private key, good method.
[09:47] <dr_willis> Evanescence,  so you are basically getting a shell on a remote machine, and using the cli to controll your mldonkey stuff?
[09:48] <tsaknorris> how i can enable anti-aliaising with ubuntus own GPU driver? i want to make it always switched ON
[09:48] <Evanescence> dr_willis: no, I hate type too much, so I write a script to reduce my typing. that's all, I am too lazy
[09:48] <iceroot> tsaknorris: there are many gpus with many pgu drivers
[09:48] <iceroot> tsaknorris: and normally the ubuntu-drivers (free) has no 3d support
[09:49] <tsaknorris> i have ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3600 Series and im using natty 10.04 common driver
[09:49] <dr_willis> Evanescence,  with ssh, you can use a ssh command to tell the remote box to run a script on the box. no login, or password needed. (if you got the keys done right)
[09:49] <tsaknorris> iceroot, well it has 3d because compiz is doing well with it
[09:50] <Evanescence> dr_willis: I know this feature, because mlnet is a server, so I can just throw it a job. done.
[09:51] <sodaorat> hello
[09:51] <SuperFaIL> hey sodaorat
[09:52] <sodaorat> I would like to remove the loading image on ubuntu
[09:52] <sodaorat> which is the same that the ending image
[09:52] <dr_willis> sodaorat,  you mean the 'ubujtu ......' animation?
[09:52] <sodaorat> yes
[09:53] <sodaorat> I don't want to change it (like I see in google)
[09:53] <sodaorat> I want to remove it and see the process starting/ending
[09:53] <dr_willis> edit the /etc/default/grub  and change the 'quiet splash' to be 'noquiet nosplash' or just ""  and it wont show up.
[09:53] <dr_willis> then rerun update-grub
[09:54] <dr_willis> other optins there can do other things. :) 'text' for example = dont start gdm, no X. just a console session.
[09:55] <sodaorat> waw thanks dr_willis
[09:55] <sodaorat> so fast :D
[09:55] <SSGVE> hi guys.. im just installed ubuntu 11.04 from using windows 7, i suceeded to get drivers and configure them right, but the issue i have is that i can only use one grafic card. But both exists..
[09:55] <dr_willis> !info smb-nat
[09:55] <sodaorat> I will reboot to test that
[09:55] <sodaorat> thanks again
[09:56] <dr_willis> SSGVE,  you mean you have a desktop box ith 2 video cards? or a laptop with those special 2 gpu setups?
[09:56] <SSGVE> got a desktop with two ati hd 5500
[09:56] <SSGVE> 4 displays, only two working
[09:58] <SSGVE> aticonfig --list-adapters shows me both graficcards.. i think i need to activate the other one, but i dont know how, im pretty new to this
[09:59] <excelsior1979> Hi there, my computer updated, and the desktop effects quit working, appearance preferences says they can't be reenabled. Any help?
[10:00] <scarleo> Has someone successfully ran ettercap on natty? The repos version crashes my computer entirely with a forced reboot. Are there any working versions?
[10:04] <tsaknorris> i have to somehow force anti-aliaising to be always on
[10:04] <tsaknorris> even if it would crash some apps that arent supporting it
[10:04] <kaushal> Hi
[10:05] <kaushal> Are there ubuntu linux jobs available internationally ?
[10:06] <OerHeks> kaushal, yes, volunteers are welcome
[10:06] <kaushal> OerHeks: ok
[10:07] <Abhijit> kaushal, look job sectioon on canonical website
[10:07] <kaushal> ok
[10:11] <SSGVE> none had any suggestions to use two grafic cards ?
[10:11] <excelsior1979> Hi there, my computer updated, and the desktop effects quit working, appearance preferences says they can't be reenabled. Any help?
[10:11] <Abhijit> kaushal, subscribe to ubuntu idia and other linux mailist lists. ofthen there are postings regarding jobs
[10:11] <Abhijit> bye
[10:13] <tsaknorris> i have noticed that if anti-aliaising is on then my 3D games works, without it always some units are missing
[10:13] <dr_willis> SSGVE,  you have ran that 'monitors' tool?  I dont use ati. so no idea if theres special ati only config tools.
[10:13] <dr_willis> tsaknorris,  what game is this in?
[10:14] <SSGVE> dr_willis i succeeded to install catalys controll center blah blah, it works without no issues
[10:15] <tsaknorris> torchlight i had same problem but there i could switch the anti-aliaising on by the games own settings. now im playing savage2 and there i cant change anti-aliaising on settings says none on anti-aliaising line
[10:15] <SSGVE> i can see my other graficcard as "unknow adapter" but its existing if im running aticonfig --list-adapters
[10:16] <dr_willis> tsaknorris,  so you are running tourchlight in wine, and  the native savage2 linux client?
[10:16] <tsaknorris> yeah
[10:17] <dr_willis> are you sure you are not geting the games 'video anti-aliasing' settings confused with 'font anti-aliasing' which is a radically differnt thing?
[10:17] <tsaknorris> ahaa wait :D now torchlight is working perfeclty with or without anti-aliasing hmm
[10:17] <dr_willis> tsaknorris,   what is your video chipset anyway?
[10:17] <tsaknorris> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3600 Series
[10:21] <tsaknorris> dr_willis, hmm
[10:22] <dr_willis> for my nvidia cards the nvidia-setting tool has some override anti-aliasing feature.
[10:22] <dr_willis> but i dont see how the AA settings would be affecting the games in the ways yiou mention
[10:22] <dr_willis> so you may be looking in the wrong place for the issue.
[10:22] <lordnoid> im trying to install ubuntu on a packard bell dot but it either gives "decompilation or decomposition prohibited" error from the BIOS or it just freezes right after it boots from USB
[10:23] <tsaknorris> dr_willis, i just said that torchlight is working with or without that setting now
[10:23] <tsaknorris> so its not AA matter anymore
[10:23] <tsaknorris> something else
[10:23] <dr_willis> wine and ati cards - have always been problematic for me in the past
[10:24] <dr_willis> check the wine app database yet?
[10:24] <tsaknorris> but savage2 is native linux version
[10:25] <smnr> hello there ! is there anybody that could help me with a problem that i have please ?
[10:26] <Gangrel> is anyone using gnome 3?
[10:26] <Gangrel> can someone tell me how to resize favorite bar on gnome 3 (ubuntu 11.04)
[10:26] <theadmin> Gangrel: Used to use it. Ask the real question
[10:27] <tsaknorris> but i cant edit any settings with ubuntus own gpu driver?? if install fglx radeon drivers then there is that catalys program
[10:27] <rww> smnr: FloodBot1 is not sentient, ask questions in the channel and see if anyone responds
[10:29] <cafenet> how can i have my own distro with some program already installed on ? :(((
[10:29] <smnr> please
[10:29] <dr_willis> cafenet,  you can remaster the iso to add stuff you want
[10:29] <tsaknorris> cafenet, you may want to check aptoncd program :)
[10:29] <smnr> could anybody help me with a network card problem ?
[10:29] <dr_willis> cafenet,  the reconstructor web sute.service lets you do it easially. but its not free
[10:29] <dr_willis> !remaster
[10:30] <tsaknorris> cafenet, so just use aptoncd :D
[10:30] <smnr> anybody please?
[10:30] <ray24> Sometimes banshee syncs ipod, and sometimes it doesn't.
[10:30] <cafenet> apton cd uses the internet
[10:30] <llutz> !anybody | smnr
[10:30] <tsaknorris> cafenet lol read more you can see that you dont need internet :)
[10:30] <tsaknorris> wit aptoncd
[10:30] <tsaknorris> with
[10:30] <cafenet> and i check this one  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization   couldnt get much of it
[10:30] <gohdan> is there a console based cpu graph program in the repo? looking for something that plots a graph similar to what 'bmon' or ttyload' does.
[10:31] <gohdan> but for the current cpu usage rather than the overall system load or bandwidth usage
[10:31] <cafenet> \i already have sth on aptoncd but while run thos files it gives error about internet connection
[10:32] <smnr> i am a total noob.. my network card exists and works. but when i write down airmon-ng i cannot see its name. i've searched a lot but nothing seems to work
[10:32] <smnr> it also says that it failed to find any
[10:32] <tsaknorris> cafenet, what error?
[10:32] <smnr> but i am connected wirelessly on the net
[10:32] <cafenet> @snmr  ifconfig or iwconfig
[10:33] <cafenet> and u have to run that as root
[10:33] <cafenet> @tsakonorris i dont remember actually it was a long time ago
[10:34] <Ryan_Macy> how would I go about linking a command to a file
[10:34] <Ryan_Macy> ex I have a file called foo, I want to run foo by typing foo in the console
[10:35] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: sudo mv foo /usr/local/bin
[10:35] <Ryan_Macy> theadmin would I be able to create a sym link instead of moving it?
[10:36] <smnr> and with iwconfig
[10:36] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: Yeah, that'd work too. Or you can just add the folder where it currently is to $PATH
[10:37] <excelsior1979> Hi there, my computer updated, and the desktop effects quit working, appearance preferences says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"  Any help?
[10:39] <Ryan_Macy> theadmin I made a sym link with
[10:39] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: Just in case, the command to create a symlink would be: sudo ln -s $PWD/foo /usr/local/bin/foo
[10:39] <Ryan_Macy> ln -s ./var/www/Symfony/app/console ./usr/local/bin/Symfony
[10:39] <Ryan_Macy> but when I ran Symfony
[10:39] <Ryan_Macy> i got command not found
[10:40] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: That's weird.
[10:40] <ubuntuisawesome> hi there
[10:40] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: My way is to write a small shellscript which will cd to the app's directory and then launch the app, and place the script in /usr/local/bin
[10:41] <theadmin> Hey, ubuntuisawesome
[10:41] <Ryan_Macy> theadmin would me trying to do this on ubuntu server make a difference
[10:41] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: Meh, not really, except... Isn't Symfony a GUI app?
[10:41] <Ryan_Macy> its a php framework
[10:41] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: Oh okay
[10:43] <excelsior1979> Hi there, my computer updated, and the desktop effects quit working, appearance preferences says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"  Any help?
[10:43] <trijntje> excelsior1979, regular updates or to a new version of ubuntu?
[10:43] <excelsior1979> not the upgrade, just the updates
[10:44] <mengu> hi.
[10:44] <tjb2> hi
[10:44] <excelsior1979> I was about to try the dell repositories to update my firmware, but I don't think that will do it.
[10:44] <nightcrow> hi guys,
[10:44] <Ryan_Macy> theadmin the issue was that I had ./blah/foo
[10:44] <tjb2> how is ubuntu coming along?  i haven't usd it in years
[10:44] <Ryan_Macy> and not /blah/foo
[10:45] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: Ah
[10:45] <nightcrow> i have an ext4 fs partitioned at /dev/sda3 I want to add it to /dev/sda1 with mount point /
[10:45] <Ryan_Macy> plus I did the sym link in the /bin dir
[10:45] <nightcrow> i want to add it to my root partition
[10:45] <nightcrow> can anyone help me please and tell me how
[10:45] <mengu> how do i know if my sound card driver is installed or not? i'm using ubuntu 11.04 with acer aspire 7750g
[10:45] <theadmin> Ryan_Macy: Well glad you got it working
[10:46] <trijntje> tjb2, its ok, unity still has some issues
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> I hear theres all sorts of work being done on unity fixing and improveing things. perhaps in the next release it will be better. :)
[10:46] <Shai347> Hello, I  would like to use the remote desktop feature but from some reason its not working well, when I connect (from Windows) to ubuntu I can see the screen but the client is not updating according to the actions? any idea?
[10:47] <xbmcuser> #hts
[10:47] <mrt91> could anyone tell me why my acer extensa 5620z don't restart by standby if there isn't any application suspended?
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> Shai347:  ive seen that issue befor as well. never did see a fix. other then to use a differnt 'vnc server'  instead of teh built in 'share the current desktop' vino server.
[10:47] <excelsior1979> trijntje: did you have any ideas?
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> Shai347:  ive not looked into it in some time - the forums and askubuntu.com may have some fix's posted by now.
[10:47] <theadmin> Shai347: I suggest trying out TeamViewer for remote desktops, really works well :)
[10:47] <trijntje> nightcrow, what do you mean by 'add it to /dev/sda1', add the space to another partition?
[10:48] <nightcrow> yes
[10:48] <nightcrow> trijntje: i want to make /dev/sda1 larger by using the space from /dev/sda3
[10:48] <trijntje> excelsior1979, not really, I would first check if the proper driver is installed, and then maybe reset all compiz settings to default and see what happens
[10:49] <trijntje> nightcrow, you will need to boot from cd, delete partition sda3 and grow sda1 using the available space
[10:49] <nightcrow> trijntje: it is the same physical device
[10:49] <excelsior1979> how do I look that up
[10:49] <nightcrow> what about resize2fs
[10:49] <nightcrow> trijntje: i can also delete it with gparted
[10:50] <trijntje> nightcrow, i'm not sure about the details, sorry
[10:50] <nightcrow> i see
[10:50] <nightcrow> thank you anyway
[10:50] <trijntje> excelsior1979, its in the menu, additional drivers or something like that
[10:50] <nightcrow> anyone else may know?
[10:50] <xbmcuser> one thing that drives me nuts in ubuntu - to drag/resize a window, the sensitivity to grab the border is ridiculous. Is this adjustable somehow?
[10:50] <mrt91> could anyone tell me why my acer extensa 5620z don't restart by standby if there isn't any application suspended?	
[10:50] <excelsior1979> No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[10:51] <trijntje> excelsior1979, are any available?
[10:51] <excelsior1979> I have an integrated video card, intel sandy bridge
[10:51] <excelsior1979> none are listed there
[10:51] <trijntje> excelsior1979, that probably means it supported by default, so thats not where the problem is
[10:52] <nightcrow> trijntje: how about if i make it 'unallocated space'?
[10:53] <trijntje> nightcrow, I really dont know, but there should be guides available on the web
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> if you resiuze a partition and shrink it. the space left over would be unallocatged. or if you delete a partition. where tit was at  will then be 'unallocated space'
[10:55] <mrt91> anyone help me... :-(
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> xbmcuser:  you could use alt-click to drag a window - you can then click anywhere in the window.
[10:55] <trijntje> mrt91, I dont understand your problem, can you rephrase it?
[10:56] <mrt91> my acer extensa 5620z don't restart by standby if there isn't any application suspended?	
[10:56] <DevSoRandom> Is this the place to learn to install linux?
[10:56] <DevSoRandom> Barrett Brown told me that linux was the operating system of real hackers.
[10:56] <trijntje> mrt91, yeah, I dont know what that means. Can you tell what you did, what happened and what you expected to happen
[10:57] <excelsior1979> linux graphics drivers from intel? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[10:57] <trijntje> DevSoRandom, installation should be straightforward
[10:58] <webus> hi to all. how i can run my vpn connection, generated by graphic settings interface ?
[10:58] <DevSoRandom> trijntje: thanks
[10:58] <mrt91> if i close the screen without a open application (to do the stand-by) when i restart the screen don't turn on
[10:59] <xbmcuser> Dr_Willis - not to move the window, but to resize it.. It seems to be a bug with altering the theme the only solution.. wierd?
[10:59] <mrt91> it is all normal if, for example, i leaveopen thunderbird
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> xbmcuser:  never noticed really.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> xbmcuser:  differnt themes have wider/narrower borders.
[11:00] <trijntje> mrt91, so if you have a program open when you put the computer in stand-by it works, but when you dont have any windows open you cannot resume from stand-by properly?
[11:00] <xbmcuser> Dr_Willis - seems to be a common complaint. Maybe cause I use a 40 inch screen, but mine is RIDICULOUSLY sensitive.. If theres no easier fix, I'll just modify the theme.
[11:00] <Guest24015> How to install ruby libraries (zlib, openssl etc)
[11:00] <mrt91> perfect!
[11:00] <theadmin> Guest24015: Search APT for them
[11:00] <mrt91> sorry for my english..
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> xbmcuser:  i never use the default theme anyway. :)
[11:01] <trijntje> mrt91, no problem. I never use stand-by, so I cant help you with that, sorry
[11:02] <mrt91> ok... thx
[11:03] <MK```> I need help... I deleted a shortcut to bluetooth settings from my system menu, now it won't appear in the Control center, how do I get it back?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> alacarte program can add it back to the menus  - isent that how you deleted it?
[11:06] <MK```> I edited the menu (from Ubuntu classic)
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> and that used alacarte
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> run alacarte again . see if you can add it back
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> I think im spelling that right.
[11:07] <MK```> well see, when I deleted the Bluetooth one, it made a copy in the "Other" folder. I moved it back, and it appears in the system dropdown again, but it still doesn't show in the command center
[11:07] <allu2> Hello, anyone know software that could be used to record/shoot lighnings on my webcam?
[11:08] <allu2> i have logitech C270 HD webcam and i would love to set it up by my window to photo lightnings :)
[11:09] <allu2> camera works perfectly but for example if i record video with cheese the higest resolution video has framerated of 1-2 FPS
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> You are recording Thunderstorms?
[11:10] <rly> How can I set as a normal user the language in an Ubuntu Classic environment?
[11:11] <rly> The menu bar for example is in English, which is not the language I configured in gdm for this user.
[11:11] <theadmin> rly: You should be able to select the language on the login screen, and there is System -> Preferences -> Language Support
[11:11] <rly> theadmin: I did both those things.
[11:12] <theadmin> rly: Weird
[11:12] <xgt001> i installed ati proprietary drivers  version 11.3 in my laptop with ati radeon 6370M .. i am getting no adpaters found error when i type aticonfig, and the control center is not opening as well please help
[11:12] <crane> i joined a channel , and  why "cannot send to channel"??
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> !register | Craig_Dem
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> !register | crane
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> crane:  registered channel/nickname requierd
[11:13] <crane> how to do it?
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> read the url the bot gave...
[11:13] <bazhang> crane, read the link, and ask in #freenode
[11:14] <crane> eh
[11:14] <crane> thang you!
[11:14] <xgt001> i installed ati proprietary drivers  version 11.3 in my laptop with ati radeon 6370M .. i am getting no adpaters found error when i type aticonfig, and the control center is not opening as well please help
[11:14] <xgt001> ubuntu 10.04
[11:14] <crane> i
[11:15] <bazhang> crane, /join #freenode
[11:15] <jeremy> hello i was wondering if anyone is avaiable to help me
[11:15] <theadmin> Guest11914: Just ask your question
[11:16] <bazhang> ask a question Guest11914
[11:16] <Guest11914> I just installed ubuntu 10.10 and i cannot get adobe flash player to update in mozilla
[11:16] <Guest11914> any ideas?
[11:17] <theadmin> Guest11914: You can only install it via APT. Well, unless you use the version from their site which isn't recommended
[11:17] <Guest11914> plus i cannot find compiz or beryl in the synaptic packager, are the repositories changed?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> compiz is isntalled by defauilt.. beryl is dead.
[11:17] <bazhang> !ccsm | Guest11914
[11:17] <theadmin> Guest11914: Compiz should be there, Beryl is no longer used
[11:18] <MK```> Ahh I figured it out :)
[11:18] <Guest11914> ok cool so is there an apt get flash player?
[11:18] <MK```> grep 'Hidden=true' ~/.local/share/applications/*.desktop
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> Guest11914:  yes. I thought during the initial install there was 2 check box's - if you used those. I recall it installing flash by default
[11:18] <denes> hi! how could i share my eth internet connection with my usb wireless in 10.10?
[11:18] <MK```> deleting any hidden ones will return them to the menu
[11:19] <bazhang> !ics | denes
[11:19] <Guest11914> no check boxes on install
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> may ahve been a new feature in 11.04
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> Flash and other things got installed by default on my Lubuntu Install i just did today it seems
[11:20] <Guest11914> well i had linux thus version before n this comp and there were no problems
[11:20] <Guest11914> i just reinstalled same but things are different
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> Flash is avail via the pacakge manager tools.  thats the best way to install it.
[11:20] <excelsior1979> does wget work on ubuntu?
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> excelsior1979:  yes.
[11:20] <denes> bazhang: oh i found that already but in earlier ubuntus there seemed to be an easier way like "create new wireless network" in network manager applet (what seems to be gone)
[11:20] <excelsior1979> do I need to sudo it?
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> excelsior1979:  i cant imagine why you would need to.
[11:21] <Guest11914> whats it called in package manager or what repository offers it
[11:21] <excelsior1979> do I need to pipe it to bash?
[11:21] <Guest11914> ok i think i found it oe sec
[11:22] <excelsior1979> I'm trying to enable dell repositories
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> excelsior1979:  what exactly are youy trying to do . and what command line are you using exactly
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> useing 'sudo' and output redirrection - can require some tricks.
[11:23] <denes> bazhang: oh so i skipped the first method due to lack of pictures in the documentation i thought it's just text preparing the user what the command line is, my fault sorry. thanks then!
[11:23] <excelsior1979> wget -q -O - http://linux.dell.com/repo/firmware/bootstrap.cgi | bash
[11:24] <excelsior1979> I'm getting permission denied
[11:24] <excelsior1979> sudo didn't help
[11:24] <Guest11914> while that is installing i was wondering if linux had any video editting software?
[11:24] <Xano> I mounted /dev/sdb2 to /var/www, which is my docroot. However, I get a 403 when trying to access the docroot. /var/www is set to 744 and /dev/sdb2 to 764. What's going wrong here?
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> excelsior1979:  get to a root shell -> sudo -s    then try it
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> or save  the outpuit to a file. then 'sudo theoutputscript'
[11:25] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: It's -i, not -s
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> theres a idfferance btween -s and -i  - i can never rember  why :)
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> ages ago i had to use -s for some case.. and thats just how i rmeber it.
[11:26] <excelsior1979> bash: line 232: aptitude: command not found
[11:26] <excelsior1979> bash: line 233: aptitude: command not found
[11:26] <excelsior1979> bash: line 234: aptitude: command not found
[11:26] <excelsior1979> bash: line 236: aptitude: command not found
[11:26] <excelsior1979> Done!
[11:26] <jrib> excelsior1979: aptitude is no longer installed by default
[11:26] <excelsior1979> it let me import the key
[11:26] <robin0800> theadmin, well whats sudo su
[11:27] <jrib> Dr_Willis: -i will reset the environment
[11:27] <excelsior1979> annoying.
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> yep. i needed the reset env. for some reason.
[11:27] <excelsior1979> how do I get out of root?
[11:27] <BlouBlou> excelsior1979: exit
[11:27] <theadmin> excelsior1979: If you opened a root shell with su or something, "exit"
[11:28] <excelsior1979> great, thanks
[11:28] <theadmin> robin0800: su is a pretty dangerous combination
[11:28] <theadmin> robin0800: with sudo that is
[11:28] <jrib> Xano: you want directories to be executable (in general)
[11:28] <excelsior1979> ok so how do I enable the dell repos? or is that no longer supported?
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> excelsior1979:  you are using that script on a newer version of ubuntu? or what exactly?
[11:29] <excelsior1979> well the page doesn't say it's specific to any particular version of ubuntu
[11:30] <excelsior1979> http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Repository/firmware
[11:30] <Xano> jrib: What's the best approach? Allowing everybody to execute wouldn't be very wise. So should I myself to the www group?
[11:30] <jrib> Xano: why would it not be wise?
[11:30] <excelsior1979> aptitude install firmware-addon-dell
[11:31] <Fudge> hi looking for an app to sign .sis nokia unisgned files, everything i google is for windows and i cant use wine because it doesnt work with orca screen reader
[11:31] <excelsior1979> should I change that to sudo apt-get install firmware-addon-dell?
[11:31] <Bartzy|work> Anyone using rsnapshot - How can I make rsnapshot to force permissions on the backup side ? Currently it just copies the uid and gid (the the permissions) from the source of the backup, which is not good for me.
[11:32] <excelsior1979> nevermind all that, it's in the software center.
[11:32] <Xano> jrib: Because then other users would have access as well. That's no problem on this machine, which is a home server (unless there's another security flaw that allows others to ssh in or so)
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> excelsior1979:  you could just inzstall aptitude :)
[11:33] <Guest11914> im going to try out the lives video editor i make youtube videos and was wondering how lives works
[11:33] <jrib> Xano: you want to hide the contents of these directories?
[11:33] <excelsior1979> screw that
[11:33] <Xano> jrib: But even if I set /dev/sdb2 to 777, I still get a 403
[11:33] <excelsior1979> maybe this will fix my video problem?
[11:33] <Xano> jrib: No, I only want to give apache and myself access to /dev/sdb2
[11:33] <jrib> Xano: change the permissions on the mount point, not /dev/sdb2
[11:34] <Guest11914> oh yeah that reminds me youtube in full screen skips and scratches to the point of freezing any ideas on how to fix that?
[11:34] <excelsior1979> in any case, it should update my firmware. When the heck is Intel going to fully support linux?
[11:34] <Xano> jrib: The mount point's permissions are 744 and these are the defaults. With without /dev/sdb2 mounted, I get access. With it mounted, I don't. The mount point hasn't changed
[11:35] <excelsior1979> I should have sprung for the better graphics card. Now it's too late.
[11:35] <jrib> Xano: paste the output of: ls -ld /var/www/
[11:35] <tjb2> do you folks like Chopin?
[11:35] <jrib> !ot | tjb2
[11:35] <Xano> jrib: drwxr--r-- 3 bart bart 4096 2011-06-09 14:52 /var/www
[11:36] <sindrake> sorry hi
[11:36] <jrib> Xano: www-data does not have execute permissions on that directory and needs to
[11:36] <sindrake> how can i fix the full screen video glitch, to make the video run more smoothly
[11:36] <Xano> jrib: Yeah, I compared the output with and without the partition mounted and it's different
[11:36] <Xano> Can't read the format though
[11:37] <jrib> Xano: chmod a+x /var/www/
[11:38] <Xano> jrib: I don't precisely know what exactly was the problem, but thanks. That worked :)
[11:39] <jrib> Xano: you can think of executable permissions on a directory as the ability to cd into a directory and play with what's inside.   www-data needs that ability :)
[11:39] <Xano> jrib: ah, right
[11:40] <Xano> jrib: so that command you gave me, what's that in octal?
[11:40] <jrib> Xano: there is no equivalent in octal it adds 111 to whatever the current octal permissions are
[11:41] <rly> I get random disconnects using a wired connection. Have others reported issues like that with 11.04?
[11:41] <ikonia> rly: you need to look at why you get disconnects, when you get a disconnect, do an ifconfig and an ethtool and see the network card status
[11:41] <th0r> jrib: actually it 'ORs' 111 with the permissions <smile>
[11:41] <jrib> Xano: they ended up being 755 so you could have done "chmod 755 /var/www" and accomplished the same
[11:41] <ikonia> rly: are you disconnected from the whole network, or just the internet, etc etc. work the problem through and narrow it down
[11:41] <jrib> th0r: you're right, I realized that when I typed my last statement, thanks :)
[11:41] <Xano> rly: I get random disconnects using wireless. Need to find out why when I'm physically near my server next week
[11:42] <rly> ikonia: well, the network level connection is not dropped, but browsing e.g. google is extremely slow. E.g. I had to wait two minutes for a page (which came in instantly when the connection came through). Nobody else is doing anything on this network,
[11:43] <Xano> jrib: I wonder why this was a problem only after mounting the partition, because after the apache2 install, /var/www was set to 764
[11:43] <rly> ikonia: but e.g. I get disconnected from IRC with error messages that packets have been chopped in half.
[11:43] <ikonia> rly: that sounds like your internet is dropping rather than your ubuntu issue
[11:43] <Xano> jrib: And that worked
[11:43] <ikonia> rly: use the techniques I've suggested to diagnose it down
[11:43] <rly> ikonia: ok
[11:43] <jrib> Xano: the owner was probably www-data?
[11:43] <J11> When i was scanning a documentwith 'Simple Scan'  it didn't have enough memory to save to pdf, if i save to png will that make multiple png's or a multipage png?
[11:43] <excelsior1979> is there something that lets me see my bios history?
[11:44] <Xano> jrib: So if the owner of the mounted partition changes, the mount point needs updated permissions?
[11:44] <ikonia> excelsior1979: no
[11:45] <jrib> Xano: files have permissions.  if you mount something to /a/b then /a/b now has the permissions of what you mounted there (because it now represents a different file)
[11:46] <developer> hi
[11:46] <Xano> jrib: makes sense
[11:46] <Xano> thanks :)
[11:47] <developer> I'm looking for a ERP open source software
[11:47] <Pashtet> Something new
[11:47] <J11> seems it is saving to multiple png images, is there a way to print multiple png's in the right numerical order to a pdf?
[11:48] <developer> anyone can hep me ?
[11:49] <J11> developer: SAP-like ERP?
[11:49] <ikonia> developer: start by doing the basic resarch tools such as google to find out if that software exists, then get a list of the names and see if they exist in ubuntu, work it down
[11:49] <robin0800> theadmin, anyway in 11.04 there is now a root terminal
[11:49] <tham> I installed kubuntu-desktop. But now the machine boots up to a command line. What can I do?
[11:49] <developer> ==> J11, yes
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> tham:  try 'startx' see if you get to a desktop
[11:49] <theadmin> tham: sudo service kdm start, try that one
[11:50] <J11> developer: maybe try openerp
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> tham:  installing kubuntu-desktop shouldent of broken x. but it may have the gdm/kdm services confused.
[11:50] <developer> You have an experience with openerp ?
[11:50] <J11> no
[11:51] <developer> i see openbravo erp in synaptic
[11:51] <xgt001> i am crying blood !!!!!! somebody helP!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:51] <ikonia> xgt001: calm down please, if you need help ask a question instead of making random noise
[11:51] <J11> developer: wikipedia has a list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ERP_software_packages
[11:51] <tham> Dr_Willis theadmin : Neither startx, nor sudo service kd start works :( Any idea?
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> tham:  any error emssages?
[11:52] <tham> Dr_Willis xinit: connection to X server lost (This and several other gibberish)
[11:52] <developer> J11: Thankx. i see this list but i want an real experience with an open source erp
[11:53] <xgt001>  ok here is the deal... i installed 10.04, i tried installing proprietary catalyst driver but after installation aticonfig is giving "no adpaters found please help"
[11:53] <rly> ikonia: I think I solved the issue.
[11:53] <ikonia> xgt001: did you install the ati drivers from the ubuntu repos ?
[11:53] <ikonia> rly: do tell
[11:53] <rly> ikonia: basically two devices had the same ip address.
[11:53] <ikonia> rly: ah, there we go, that will do it
[11:53] <J11> developer: then you have to search for a forum about erp
[11:54] <xgt001> ikonia: no .. ubuntu repos dint have drivers supporting my 6370, so downloaded from amd site and installed from the run file
[11:54] <theadmin> Hamsters!
[11:54] <rly> ikonia: so what happens exactly then?
[11:54] <developer> i don't find a specific forum about this topic
[11:54] <ikonia> rly: two devices can't have the same ip address so it either loses packets as it doesn't know where to go, or the machine drops the offending card off the network
[11:54] <palo> hey i have problems with my kernel. usb is so unnormal slow. why. i can use my mouse after 2 minutes after boot. here my /var/log/kern , please some ideas http://paste.pocoo.org/show/404902/
[11:55] <tham> Dr_Willis theadmin Any ideas? :S
[11:55] <xgt001> and it gives me the error "no supported adapters found"
[11:55] <ikonia> xgt001: did you install the ati drivers from the ubuntu repos ?
[11:55] <rly> ikonia: but I have been able to run IRC over it for a few minutes at a time.
[11:55] <ikonia> xgt001: apologies, missed your comment
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> tham:  patebin teh whole of your error message  perhaps..
[11:55] <developer> J11: I'm trying to install openbravowith synaptic to make a test
[11:55] <ikonia> xgt001: ok - so you're using drivers that are untested against ubuntu, may I suggest #ati for your help
[11:56] <rly> ikonia: I don't see why it would lose packets then.
[11:56] <rly> ikonia: still, that it is not a good idea, is completely true :)
[11:56] <ikonia> rly: because there are two devices sharing the same ip - how does it know where to send them,
[11:56] <ikonia> rly: shortly the packets will get confused/lost
[11:56] <jabba> is it possible to read out the length of a luks XTS-AES key from a crypted, mounted partition?
[11:57] <tham> Dr_Willis The one I mentioned is the error, other stuff are just info about starting x
[11:57] <kra3> tham: can you run startx as root
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> tham:  the one you mentioned is just a generic x failed mnessage..
[11:58] <carlo>  ubuntu-it-test
[11:58] <tham> kra3: startx gives the error "xinit: connection to x server lost"
[11:58] <xgt001> ikonia: no response from #ati :(
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> tham:  any mention of  'no screens found'  = whats your video card?
[11:58] <ikonia> xgt001: wait for a response,
[11:58] <ikonia> xgt001: it's not as busy as this channel
[11:58] <tham> Dr_Willis: There's no other specific error message as such :S
[11:59] <Bartzy|work> How can I purge all packages that start with apache ?
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> apt-get takes wildcards
[11:59] <Bartzy|work> aptitude purge apache* doesn't work
[11:59] <Bartzy|work> aptitude doesn't ?
[11:59] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: now that's something I didn't know
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> what does it do then>
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> try the tab completion also.
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> wildcards with apt = often NOT a good idea.
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> I dont se emuch need to use aptotuide  - so i never use it. :)
[12:00] <kra3> apt-get --purge apache*
[12:00] <xgt001> excuse me every1, can anybody share there experiences with battery life on ubuntu 10.10 compared to ubuntu 11.04?
[12:00] <hotmedal> Wubi install went to grub command prompt on startup, seems to have cured itself. (Probably Windows's chkdsk)
[12:01] <hotmedal> do i need to worry?
[12:01] <ikonia> xgt001: nothing really different between them
[12:01] <xgt001> ikonia: your battery life in meerkat and natty?
[12:02] <carlotux> sono in ubuntu test, date conferma
[12:02] <ikonia> xgt001: about the same - it depends too much on what you're doing rather than just default battery life
[12:03] <xgt001> ikonia: there is this confirmed bug , #760131 in launchpad , which causes a power regression in natty
[12:04] <ikonia> xgt001: so ?
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> bugs exist. :)
[12:04] <xgt001> ikonia: so no matter what you do, i am getting 30-40% less battery in natty
[12:05] <ikonia> xgt001: mines about the same (ball park figures)
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> ive not noticed much differance either.. but on the windows side. my laptop has this 'extreme powersaveing feature' whcih If i use that.. it does give me some more battery. but it makes tye system next to unuseable  for anything other then web surfing. and even thats slow
[12:06] <xgt001> actually it seems to be the fault of 2.6.38 kernel series, so all distros based on this kernel , have this problem including natty
[12:06] <ikonia> xgt001: why are you asking about this if you know there is a bug ?
[12:07] <xgt001> ikonia: i want to rollback to 10.10 , but i want to confirm if the battery life is more in maverick, so that the downgrade doesnt go in vain :)
[12:07] <ikonia> xgt001: you can't roll back - you'll need to reinstall
[12:07] <xgt001> ikonia: apologies, i meant reinstall
[12:07] <ikonia> xgt001: and no, I don't believe the battery life is different in 10.10 - I have roughly the same run time with generic use
[12:08] <xgt001> ikonia: what about 10.04?
[12:09] <ikonia> xgt001: again roughly the same, but in honest I haven't used 10.04 against 11.04 directly, only 10.04 against 10.10 and it was roughly the same
[12:10] <rly> ikonia: I suppose it depends on the exact implementation of the device. One could simply send it to all and then in the case that one machine doesn't send any reply, it would still work.
[12:10] <ikonia> rly: no - it doesn't, ipconflicts never work
[12:11] <ikonia> rly: 2 devices on the same network cannot share the same ip address, if they are speerate or on the same machine, they cannot co-exist
[12:11] <Sia-> hi¨
[12:12] <jo-erlend> I have a laptop with an external monitor. The laptops main mode is 1366x768 and the external uses 1920x1080, but it also supports 1366x768. When I let both screens show the same, I only get the options 1024x768, 800x600 and 600x480. If they show individual screens, they get the correct options.
[12:12] <d3vic3> what is the "store" directory in my home is for plz?
[12:12] <jo-erlend> any ideas?
[12:13] <jo-erlend> d3vic3, that's english? It's not default. I haven't seen it.
[12:13] <d3vic3> jo-erlend : ~$ ls store/
[12:13] <d3vic3> filelist.dbs  filesStore.dbs  gixSlots.dbs  identities.dbs  messageArchive.dbs  messagesContents.dbs  messages.dbs  sfChkKeys.dbs
[12:14] <d3vic3> it's taking some space and don't know to whom it belongs :/
[12:14] <carlotux> sono su ubuntu-it-test ? date conferma grazie.
[12:14] <rly> I set the language in gdm, I set it in System -> <whatever> -> <whatever>, still I get an "Application"-menu in English and not in the selected language for some user. How can I make it such that it displays "Application" in the native language?
[12:14] <rly> Alternatively, how do I set the default language in GDM as an administrator?
[12:14] <jo-erlend> d3vic3, http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net/
[12:17] <d3vic3> jo-erlend : thanks, it's been a long time since I used frost... it's shit
[12:18] <jo-erlend> d3vic3, I actually forwarded your paste to Google. There was only one reply.
[12:19] <d3vic3> jo-erlend : used everything but this trick... but it's great to have ppl help :)
[12:19] <tsaknorris> there has to be some way to edit or just give parameters for ubuntus native driver
[12:20] <jo-erlend> d3vic3, sure. Glad I could help. :)
[12:20] <tsaknorris> like fglx has catalyst where you can edit but i can manage with CLI version too
[12:20] <jo-erlend> tsaknorris?
[12:20] <tsaknorris> jo-erlend,
[12:20] <tsaknorris> what
[12:21] <tsaknorris> i cant use fglx driver because it doesnt work well
[12:21] <tsaknorris> native works smoothly
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> the gpl driver may be lacking features. thats just ioften a sad fact of life
[12:21] <tsaknorris> but i cant play savage2 because the units are missing or driver doesnt know how to draw them on screen
[12:22] <tsaknorris> its looks like it works (even it doesnt) i just mean that im so close that maybe some parameter forcing stuff would help
[12:25] <ray_> hi all
[12:25] <ray_> im having file sharing between win7 and ubuntu 10.10
[12:25] <ray_> im having file sharing problems between win7 and ubuntu 10.10
[12:25] <Fudge> anyone well versed on creating ssl certificates?
[12:26] <ray_> ubuntu can see all my win7 shares but win7 cant access my ubuntu shares
[12:26] <hotmedal> @ray, ssh, wynaut?
[12:27] <ray_> dont know...
[12:27] <Fudge> thats  wha ti dont know, its for a nokia so i can self sign apps
[12:27] <Fudge> Unsigned version must sign with a 17 capabilities Dev Cert before installation.
[12:28] <hotmedal> use WinSCP or something to SSH into your Ubuntu
[12:28] <vec> ray_: is it a dual boot machine?
[12:28] <vec> very well
[12:29] <hotmedal> lol
[12:30] <ray_> vec: No
[12:30] <pradeep> hello
[12:31] <ray_> i tried samba and pretty much stuff on the inet but still no luck
[12:32] <vec> then you did it possibly wrong
[12:32] <ray_> ubuntu can access all my win7 shares but vise versa!
[12:32] <pradeep> quit
[12:32] <vec> you need to be more precise in what you did, what doesnt work
[12:33] <ray_> ubuntu can access all my win7 shares but not vise versa!
[12:33] <vec> note that i have no experience with samba what so ever
[12:34] <ray_> both workgroup names the same for ubuntu and win7. enabled shares on ubuntu but win7 doesnt see it
[12:35] <ray_> ubuntu running on wireless connection...
[12:35] <xgt001> excuse me every1, can you suggest me a link to download the deb files for stable 2.6.37 kernel for natty?
[12:36] <szal> xgt001: Natty always came w/ 2.6.38, so I doubt that there is a 2.6.37 for Natty
[12:37] <xgt001> szal : I checked the site http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  I am confused which version of 2.6.37 is stable... could you please suggest?
[12:38] <szal> xgt001: mainline is a completely unpatched kernel (on most other distros called vanilla), and you shouldn't really use it unless you have a good reason to
[12:38] <robin0800> ray_: you did install samba?
[12:39] <xgt001> szal: could you suggest a download link for a patched 2.6.37 stable kernel for natty?
[12:41] <szal> xgt001: there is none that I'm aware of
[12:42] <alterran> xgt001: you can download a kernel from kernel.org but you will need to know how to edit your grub.conf
[12:43] <xgt001> alterran: I don't know how to compile :(
[12:43] <alterran> that is a fairly advanced procedure
[12:43] <alterran> xgt001:  is there a reason you feel you need the newer kernel?
[12:43] <xgt001> alterran: should we I compile the kernel after I download it from kernel.org to install it?
[12:44] <xgt001> sorry for bad english
[12:44] <llutz_> alterran: since natty comes with 2.6.38, its an older kernel he looks for (whyever)
[12:44] <konsue> hello
[12:44] <alterran> xgt001: yes it would need to be compiled with proper options selected, a fairly advanced procedure
[12:45] <konsue> please tell me how to use floppy
[12:45] <konsue> i do not see it in the gui
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> !floppy
[12:45] <konsue> I need my floppy to work
[12:45] <llutz_> !kernel > xgt001 read this to get an idea how to comile your own kernel
[12:45] <xgt001> llutz_: I want to check whether the power regression bug of 2.6.38 exists in 2.6.37 also
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> try mounting it by hand if  you just need quick access to it right now. be sure to unmount it befor removeing it.
[12:48] <Tyrnis> plop all
[12:49] <szal> alterran: downloading from kernel.org is wasted effort, if you'd like that you can as well use the precompiled mainline kernels
[12:49] <Drule> Hi. I am having problems with my WiFi icon in the upper right corner.
[12:49] <Drule> When I try to connect to one of the available networks, nothing happens.
[12:49] <Drule> The menu just goes away, and it doesn't even feel/seem/look like it loads anything as a reaction to me clicking on one of the options.
[12:50] <Drule> Er, on one of the available wifi networks.
[12:50] <konsue> I chenged the fstab entry for the fd0. Now what should I do?
[12:50] <alterran> szal: he wanted a kernel I have not seen pre-compiled. I just use gentoo
[12:50] <Co_H> I removed Ubuntu from Ubuntu-Windows dual boot PC. I can't get access to XP nor the XP CD to repair the MBR
[12:50] <Co_H> What do I do>
[12:50] <konsue> By the way, there was no entry for ft0 in fstab, so I just added a new one.
[12:51] <konsue> Dr_Willis
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> konsue:  use the mount command,  and make sure the mouintpioint exists
[12:51] <xgt001> szal: if at all I were to use the mainline kernel from kernel.ubuntu.com ( stable 2.6.37) which is the one to download? I mean there are so many rcs and 2.6.37.xx
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> !mount | konsue
[12:51] <konsue> OK, I'll try.
[12:51] <konsue> :)
[12:51] <szal> xgt001: most likely the one w/ the highest dot number count after the 37
[12:51] <Co_H> Pls help
[12:51] <szal> xgt001: certainly not an rc
[12:52] <xgt001> szal: suppose I download 2.6.37.6 will it be very similar to 2.6.38 or will it be the bug fix release of 2.6.37?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Co_H:  you no longer want any uybuntu on the system? or whats your end goal?
[12:53] <konsue> I get I/O error.
[12:53] <konsue> Maybe I need to format the disket.
[12:54] <mediawork> hi,
[12:54] <konsue> How do I this?
[12:54] <Co_H> Dr_Willis: I deleted Ubuntu partition and as there is no longer grub, I can't access Windows
[12:54] <mediawork> is anyone here quite familiar with how lm-sensors works?
[12:54] <konsue> !mount
[12:54] <konsue> !formqt
[12:54] <Co_H> How do I retain the MBR or whatever you call it
[12:55] <konsue> !format
[12:55] <mediawork> I installed this on my ubuntu, to get temperature readings from the cpu and motherboard
[12:55] <mediawork> and I am getting non-sensical temp readings... and temp changes... I think
[12:55] <rly> mediawork: lm-sensors does not support every piece of hardware in the world.
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Co_H:  if you  dont want linxui any more. You need to somehow restore the windows mbr, using a windows cd. (a recovery cd may not work) or use some of the super-grub-boot disk, or other live-cd tools out there. #windows should point you to some.
[12:56] <mediawork> unless, any part of an amd phenom processor/motherboard should go over 120 deg C
[12:56] <mediawork> rly: right, but I would have thought maybe one of the most common piece of hardware...
[12:56] <rly> mediawork: it could be all sorts of things.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> mediawork:  thats not supriseing. often the MB makers do things oddly. and the sensors tools need to be tweaked to reinterperate the temps corectly
[12:56] <rly> mediawork: this is not the place to discuss such specific technical details.
[12:56] <rly> mediawork: contact the mailing list for lm-sensors.
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> the lm-sensors homepage may have some info on spefific chipsets/issues.
[12:57] <rly> mediawork: and read the manual first to make sure you have done everything that is needed.
[12:57] <mediawork> Dr_Willis, rly:  right, ok, thanks anyways.  btw... are you guys using this software?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Using which software?
[12:57] <rly> mediawork: yes, but my hardware is too new.
[12:57] <xgt001> mediawork: did you try sensor-detect after installing lm-sensors>
[12:58] <mediawork> rly: rfm, yeah have as much as is available... their website also hasnt been much updated it seems last 4 years.
[12:58] <mediawork> xgt001: yes, according to instructions i did the sensor detect...
[12:58] <rly> mediawork: as long as the software is still updated.
[12:59] <rly> mediawork: otherwise file some kind of orphan package message on Launchpad, if there is also no maintainer anymore.
[12:59] <xgt001> mediawork: if you use the gnome applets then the values are not updated very frequently
[12:59] <mediawork> rly, Dr_Willis, xgt001:  I am surprised there isnt something more definite already available with ubuntu..
[12:59] <rly> mediawork: at that point someone can decide to fork it for example.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> very 'new' hardware is often problematc
[12:59] <mediawork> xgt001:   the gnome applet I am using fetches the values from lm-sensors
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> ive had no issues with lm-sendors and my 3+yr old stuff.
[13:00] <rly> mediawork: I have been told the specifications for these chips are open, yet I have never seen such documents.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> there are spefific lm-sensors condfigs in /etc/ you can tweak also.
[13:00] <rly> I would implement it for my own hardware as an exercise otherwise.
[13:00] <xgt001> mediawork:exactly,..if I try sensors from terminal I get more accurate reading than the gnome applet
[13:00] <rly> It cannot possibly be difficult (< 1 hour of work) with documentation.
[13:00] <landingonwater> hmm... is there a good tutorial for connecting with SSH ?
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[13:01] <mediawork> xgt001: I get the same values,  but if I run from the terminal I simply get the value when I want it.
[13:01] <landingonwater> Im trying to connect to my cloud server at rackspace
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> landingonwater:   ssh books and guides are all over the place.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> landingonwater:  ssh remotemachinenameorip
[13:01] <rly> landingonwater: just read the instructions which rackspace has given you.
[13:02] <xgt001> mediawork: apologies,... could you tell me your specs?
[13:03] <konsue> Thank you Dr_Willis!
[13:04] <mediawork> xgt001: my specs, are MB is  GA-880GM-D2H   and CPU is  AMD Phenom II X4 965
[13:04] <rly> Nice, it appears that at least some sensors now work.
[13:04] <landingonwater> rly: thanks.. hmm.. right.. so I need to log in and generate the key to get startet. bumbum... thanks :)
[13:04] <rly> landingonwater: I don't know their specific instructions.
[13:05] <xgt001> mediawork: what's the critical temperature shown by sensors ??
[13:06] <mediawork> xgt001:  here is a typical readout of sensors (when my PC is doing nothing)  http://pastebin.com/Thk93Ybg
[13:06] <mediawork> xgt001:  it seems it didnt config the critical temperature correctly, I think.
[13:06] <landingonwater> rly: i was more looking for the basics using ssh. to connect the first time. I think its something like: shh connect ip yada yada
[13:06] <mediawork> xgt001: and it didnt label the 4 different temp sensors with a name that is understandable...
[13:06] <rly> mediawork: I didn't configure anything. I just ran sensors-detect and followed instructions.
[13:06] <mediawork> xgt001:  its only temp1 temp2 temp3 ...
[13:07] <rly> mediawork: it depends on the chip, I think.
[13:07] <mediawork> rly, xgt001:  I also ran sensors-detect
[13:07] <rly> landingonwater: you would just go to the website of ssh and read the manual, just like with a toaster or a new car.
[13:07] <xgt001> well the high and low temps shown by sensors look crazy
[13:07] <mediawork> rly: xgt001:  and then I did get loads of new thermal readings... but they are some silly, and behave silly
[13:07] <xgt001> are you on 11.04?
[13:08] <landingonwater> rly: but I feel lazy :D
[13:08] <mediawork> xgt001: ehm no, I think 10.1 or smthng. wait
[13:08] <rly> landingonwater: so, then pay someone to do it for you.
[13:08] <mediawork> Linux hroi-GA-880GM-D2H 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:08] <vec> ssh user@domain[:port]
[13:08] <vec> its that easy
[13:08] <mediawork> this is uname -a
[13:08] <rly> mediawork: you are right that it contains inconsistent data.
[13:08] <aexpert> Hi. Can I host my websites on my own computer with ubuntu server?
[13:09] <landingonwater> vec: thanks. hmm.. true.. thats easy :) thanks
[13:09] <rly> mediawork: you should report that as a bug.
[13:09] <vec> aexpert: yes, potentially
[13:09] <rly> mediawork: especially the low=127 high=70 one.
[13:09] <mediawork> rly, xgt001: that or maybe my CPU is faulty and I should return it
[13:09] <rly> mediawork: that is possible, but unlikely.
[13:09] <vec> aexpert: if you dont have a static ip you will need dydns or some solution
[13:10] <xgt001> mediawork: I think it's a bug with sensors
[13:10] <xgt001> try updating it, or try 11.04?
[13:10] <mediawork> rly: xgt001: btw... I have checked my MB firmware and all should be fine... no reported problems with temp readings.
[13:10] <aexpert> vec: I've installed ubuntu server, apache2, php5, mysql, and joomla cms. I can access my website from my own computer, but can't see it from another computer.
[13:10] <vec> s/dydns/dyndns/
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> aexpert:  yiou may need to port forward  if its behind a router/firewall
[13:10] <xgt001> mediawork: I mean the lm-sensors :) .... I think the sensors in 10.10 is buggy
[13:10] <rly> mediawork: I think your question has no been answered. Your possible actions: report it at the appriate place or do nothing. :)
[13:11] <rly> now*
[13:11] <rly> appropriate*
[13:11] <aexpert> I don't know how to do that, the computer has (for now) a wireless usb stick connection.
[13:11] <xgt001> I tried sensors in 11.04 it works fine a
[13:11] <aexpert> Mobile broadband
[13:11] <mediawork> xgt001, rly:  is there an easy way to update only the lm-sensor library?  not the whole ubuntu?
[13:11] <rly> mediawork: you run 10.10?
[13:11] <BlouBlou> aexpert: You can, just install apache2
[13:11] <BlouBlou> !apache2 | aexpert
[13:11] <BlouBlou> !apache | aexpert
[13:11] <rly> mediawork: you can also just install the latest lm-sensors from source.
[13:12] <mediawork> rly: yeah, well uname -a is ...  2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:39:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:12] <rly> mediawork: it is likely easy to compile it.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> aexpert:  you proberly need to check your wireless routers docs.
[13:12] <aexpert> BlouBlou: , it's installed LAMP is working. I can access my website if I call in browser http://xx.xx.xx.xx/website , but can't acces it from the internet
[13:13] <aexpert> Dr_Willis: and if I will have a connection with a static IP, that problem will be gone by itself?
[13:13] <llutz_> aexpert: does you mob-broadband provider use NAT for connection? compare "ifconfig" with "http://whatismyip.com", if those IPs differ, you cannot access your website from inet, since your provider won't allow it
[13:13] <aexpert> llutz_: the IP's differ :D
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> aexpert:  it depends on how you are connecting to the internet...
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> aexpert:  and if you are usiong a router or not
[13:14] <mediawork> rly:  my 10.10 asks me if I want to update to 11... is this completely safe?
[13:14] <aexpert> I use some king of huge netweork connection, fiberlink
[13:14] <aexpert> mediawork: nothing is completely safe :)
[13:15] <llutz_> aexpert: in that case your ISP has to configure port-forwarding. I doubt he'll do...
[13:15] <vec> if updating from 10.10, will brazero be replace, or is it only replaced on fresh installs (dont remember the name of the new bruning app)
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> vec:  the new app will proberly be installed and the old one kept.
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> I never even noticed there being a 'new' one.
[13:16] <mediawork> aexpert: what does it really do... does it iron out my /  and leave my /home alone?
[13:16] <aexpert> llutz_: thanks, I'm trying to see if that's the final solution, don't wanna call the ISP if I don't know what I need.
[13:16] <mediawork> aexpert: that would be fine by me btw...
[13:17] <mediawork> aexpert: ahh but I want it to leave my /opt alone too
[13:17] <vec> aexpert: cant you just enter the IP from whatismyip.com?
[13:17] <llutz_> aexpert: easier to get some cheap webspace
[13:17] <vec> in your browser*
[13:17] <aexpert> mediawork: theoretically no. But could leave some hardware (like network) not working :D
[13:17] <vec> llutz_: true
[13:17] <BlouBlou> axisys: If you're under router, forward port 80 to your local IP
[13:17] <BlouBlou> aexpert: ^
[13:17] <llutz_> vec: if the ISP uses NAT, he can't
[13:18] <aexpert> vec: I can see the IP there, but when I access http://my.ip/site it doesnt work, and I found another IP with iconfig and only with that one http://my.ip/site works
[13:18] <vec> so, if he gets banned in here, all people behind the same nat-router/switch are banned too?
[13:18] <llutz_> vec: thats the same situation as being behind a router without having port-forwarding configured. portforwarding has to be done at the ISP, which unlikely will do it.
[13:18] <frankS2> vec: depends on the ban ;D
[13:18] <rly> mediawork: it worked on my system without any issue.
[13:19] <rly> mediawork: that doesn't mean it will work on yours, but it likely does.
[13:19] <vec> not really a ubuntu issue anyway :/
[13:20] <Co_H> !ms-sys
[13:22] <Co_H> Hi, why is ms-sys not in repos?
[13:22] <vec> speaking of network: i wanted to be able to connect my broadband modem or my router as needed, both on eth0. the router worked automatically from the beginning, the setting was auto eth0 sth like that, then i ran `pppoeconf eth0' and now i can use the modem with `pon dsl-provider' but the router cant connect. what should i do to get that router working again?
[13:23] <Taev> Just a quick question, whose bright idea was it to name the new ubuntu district 11.04 after something that translates as "Corpse Whale" ?
[13:24] <bl4ckcomb`> Co_H, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868342
[13:24] <osse> I'm on a Norwegian keyboard so I have ø/Ø as a regular letter key to the right of L. I want to bind Ctrl+Ø to the Escape key. How can I do that?
[13:25] <bl4ckcomb`> osse, you probably want to extend xkb mappings
[13:25] <beef-supreme> hello
[13:26] <Co_H> bl4ckcomb`: oh, anyways, I compiled it from source
[13:26] <Co_H> Thanks
[13:26] <beef-supreme> i'm getting
[13:26] <beef-supreme> Error: no default or UI configuration directive found when trying to boot
[13:26] <osse> bl4ckcomb`, thanks. Sorry, but I have no idea how to do that. Could you point me in the right direction? Does it involve xmodmap ?
[13:26] <bl4ckcomb`> osse, http://madduck.net/docs/extending-xkb/
[13:26] <cafenet> how can i have my own  ubuntu distro
[13:27] <cafenet> ?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> !remaster | cafenet
[13:28] <nanomad> does anyone here use nuveau with a nvidia GTX2xx ? Because whenever i try it the mouse feels "skippy"
[13:28] <vec> is the description of my problem not detailed enough?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> vec:  you are switching from your modem, to a local lan router?
[13:30] <vec> Dr_Willis: yes, its a router with integrated modem, a fritz!box
[13:31] <vec> and dhcp used to work
[13:31] <bl4ckcomb`> vec, does it run a dhcp ?
[13:31] <vec> yes, it does
[13:31] <vec> with livecd it works seemlessly
[13:31] <nerdshell1> one I installed Natty, there's like an imaginary band in my screen(nearly in the middle) where clicking with my pointer does not work, I'm using an Hp Pavilion. Any help please ?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> vec:  i dont think we understand what you are doing/switching.. I just connect to my router.. and the router is connected to the internet.  I dont need to do anything then enable dhcp.
[13:31] <nightcrow> hi guys
[13:31] <nanomad> vec: what happens if you run dhclient in console as root
[13:31] <nanomad> ?
[13:31] <nanomad> hi nightcrow
[13:31] <nightcrow> how can i tell which version of ubuntu i am running
[13:31] <nightcrow> 64 or 32
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> !version
[13:32] <nanomad> nightcrow: uname -m
[13:32] <llutz_> lsb_release -a
[13:32] <nightcrow> i know i have 9.04
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> vec: is it a router combined with modem?
[13:32] <nightcrow> lsb_release doesnt show that llutz_
[13:32] <bl4ckcomb`> nightcrow, uname -a
[13:32] <nightcrow> nor does uname -a
[13:32] <nanomad> nightcrow: uname -m
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> whqats your kernel name nightcrow?
[13:32] <llutz_> nightcrow:sry havent read your 2nd line :)
[13:32] <nightcrow> and uname -m shows x86_64
[13:32] <nightcrow> so its confusing
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> there ya go.. its _64
[13:32] <nanomad> nightcrow: it's 64bit
[13:32] <bl4ckcomb`> nightcrow, you have Linux x86_64
[13:33] <nightcrow> x86_64? isnt x83 32 bit?
[13:33] <bl4ckcomb`> 64 bit
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> No its not nightcrow.
[13:33] <nightcrow> ^x86
[13:33] <bl4ckcomb`> x86_64
[13:33] <vec> nanomad: sec, need to get sudo working :'D
[13:33] <nightcrow> ok, so what would it say if it was 32?
[13:33] <nanomad> nightcrow: its a 64bit cpu with binary x86 compatibilty
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> thats just the string to show its 64bit.. other wise i thinkits just x86
[13:33] <llutz_> nightcrow: i686 == 32
[13:34] <nightcrow> Dr_Willis: llutz_  if i was to do uname -m and it was 32bit, i would just see x86?
[13:34] <llutz_> nightcrow: i686 == 32
[13:34] <nightcrow> ah, ok
[13:34] <nightcrow> thank you sir
[13:34] <nerdshell> once I installed Natty, there's like an imaginary band in my screen(nearly in the middle) where clicking with my pointer does not work, I'm using an Hp Pavilion. Any help please ?
[13:34] <nanomad> nerdshell: what GPU do you have?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  try adding a new user - see if it affexts them
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  how wide a band? how tall?
[13:35] <vec_> needed to switch users, sorry
[13:35] <Nikro> Hi guys, I'm pretty new to linux, anyway I've read that ubuntu-desktop in 11.04 is Unity, how can I install purely gnome-desktop?
[13:35] <nerdshell> nanomad: how do I know which GPU I'm using ?
[13:35] <nanomad> Nikro: before logging in select gnome in the bottom bar+
[13:35] <llutz_> !classic | Nikro
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> niko:  for 11.04 - basically you dont. there may be some unofficial old-gnome-ppa's but ive not heard of them.
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> niko:  use the gnome-classic for  whats very close to the old gnome-interface
[13:35] <nanomad> nerdshell: you should know, the laptop/computer is yours
[13:36] <Nikro> nanomad, llutz_, Dr_Willis: thnx so I guess I will have to install ubuntu-desktop anyway)
[13:36] <osse> bl4ckcomb`, thanks, I'll look into that
[13:37] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: well, I just logged out / in and it fixed it.
[13:38] <vec_> nerdshell: to find what gpu u have try glxinfo
[13:38] <vec_> do u mean the card name=
[13:38] <vec_> ?
[13:38] <vec_> thats ``glxinfo|grep "renderer string"''
[13:39] <szal> lspci will mostly be as good
[13:40] <Nikro> I have uninstalled ubuntu-desktop earlier (it was a fresh ubuntu install so I just re-installed ubuntu) because I couldn't get my dual-screen setup right =\ Do you have some links that would help me out with it? (my issue was that one screen was turning off, videocard drivers were installed)
[13:40] <vec_> nanomad: what should dhclient show me?
[13:40] <vec_> the router is not connected atm, the modem is
[13:41] <nanomad> so its PC->modem ?
[13:41] <vec_> yes
[13:41] <vec_> that works np
[13:41] <vec_> its the router that doesnt work automatically anymore
[13:41] <vec_> also, the network connetion indicator (im on 10.4) in the pannel is missing
[13:41] <nanomad> vec_: is the dhcp service enabled on the router?
[13:42] <vec_> yes it is
[13:42] <nanomad> vec_: that's strange
[13:42] <bl4ckcomb`> Nikro, is it nvidia?
[13:42] <llutz_> vec_: you set the router to "client has authentication data"
[13:42] <vec_> the router works on live-cd
[13:42] <nanomad> try reinstalling network-manager-gnome
[13:42] <vec_> llutz_: i ran pppoeconf
[13:42] <Nikro> bl4ckcomb`: it's ati
[13:43] <llutz_> vec_: that won't affect router connectivity at all. just the connection pc<->router
[13:43] <vec_> llutz_: how did i set the router to "client has authentication data"?
[13:43] <llutz_> vec_: you shouldn't do at all.
[13:44] <bl4ckcomb`> Nikro, I read there is a aticonfig command, have you checked it out yet?
[13:44] <llutz_> vec_: "sudo poff && sudo killall pppd && sudo dhclient eth0"
[13:44] <llutz_> vec_: will drop your inet-connection, be carefull
[13:45] <Nikro> bl4ckcomb`: nope, I'll search that
[13:45] <vec_> llutz_: i will try in a moment
[13:46] <vec_> llutz_: just tell me what you ment when u said that about "client has authentication data"
[13:46] <llutz_> vec_: that should have been a question, lacking the questionmark
[13:46] <vec_> i thought u ment it was set already and you read that in the dhclient output
[13:47] <vec_> brb
[13:47] <vec_> llutz_: where would i set that, if i did so accidentally?
[13:48] <llutz_> vec_: "somewhere" in the fritz!box connection-setting
[13:48] <Nikro> ok erm, one more question, how can I disable ubuntu-desktop autostart ?
[13:48] <llutz_> vec_: sry its long ago i used such a thing
[13:48] <vec_> k
[13:48] <vec_> then i didnt
[13:54] <vec__> llutz_: dhcp didnt work
[13:54] <vec__> should i connect the router before i do dhclient eth0?
[13:54] <vec__> maybe a stupid question >_<
[13:54] <frankS2> vec__: you need to insert a cable yes
[13:54] <compdoc> heh
[13:54] <llutz_> vec__: isn't the router connected all the time?
[13:55] <vec__> no, i only have one ethernetcard
[13:55] <vec__> i switch between router and modem
[13:56] <vec__> llutz_: as long as i do poff before changing connections i shouldnt have a problem doing both, right?
[13:57] <llutz_> vec__: right
[13:57] <llutz_> vec__: make sure there's no more pppd running
[13:58] <matteo_> ciao
[13:59] <matteo_> !list
[14:02] <bl4ckcomb`> does anyone know how I can share my clipboard between my host and a rdesktop session? I've added -r clipboard:PRIMARYCLIPBOARD, but that doesn't seem to work
[14:02] <delinquentme> im having a case of poop in .. poop out .. with setting   PERSISTENT environmental variables in etc/environment ... so im looking at the PATH var thats in there .. and after going through the ubuntuy manpages on printenv it seems as if putting the line: "CROSSBOW_HOME=/home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/"    SHOULD assign a persistent env var to the CROSSBOW_HOME .. however it does not ... suggestions anyone?
[14:03] <tsaknorris> ok this is very important. i solved one GPU acceleration problem so please someone write it down :)
[14:05] <tsaknorris> i made xorg.conf file with natty (ati radeon 3600) and added Option	    "ColorTiling" "true" and Option	    "AccelMethod" "EXA" lines to  Section "device"
[14:05] <tsaknorris> and also
[14:06] <tsaknorris> change from compiz under opengl --> texture filter: fast and took sync to vblank cross away
[14:06] <tsaknorris> now this is fast!
[14:06] <delorian> Hello
[14:06] <tsaknorris> i hope someone will write that down :)
[14:06] <kramble> Hi i just installed ubuntu 11.04 and there are many things i don't know where to configurate
[14:06] <kramble> where can I disable workspaces ?
[14:07] <smw> kramble, why would you want to?
[14:07] <smw> kramble, you can just remove the applet. But I think it is a nice feature :-)
[14:08] <kramble> smw, i just want one workspace
[14:08] <kramble> and exactly one
[14:10] <smw> kramble, ok, right click on them. -> preferences -> columns 1
[14:10] <smw> kramble, then delete the workspace applet
[14:10] <kramble> smw, right click does nothing on this icon
[14:10] <smw> kramble, ah sorry. I am on the old ubuntu, 10.10
[14:11] <smw> kramble, no idea how to do it on 11.04
[14:12] <kramble> does someone know how to block the bar of application at the left of my screen (prevent it from hiding) ?
[14:13] <bl4ckcomb`> kramble, in Unity?
[14:14] <kramble> yes i think
[14:14] <bl4ckcomb`> kramble, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9865/how-can-i-configure-unitys-launcher-auto-hide-behavior
[14:14] <kramble> bl4ckcomb`, thank you
[14:14] <andeeeuk> Hey Everyone
[14:14] <andeeeuk> Hey Everyone
[14:14] <McFadden> I have an SSD drive. How do I execute the TRIM command? Is it though hdparm --trim-sector-ranges <mydrive>? Do I have to do this manually, or does EXT4 do it automatically? I'm using 10.10.
[14:14] <andeeeuk> does anyone here know how to setup conky?
[14:15] <IdleOne> kramble: to remove the workspace switcher: CompizConfig Settings Manager -> General Options -> Desktop Size
[14:15] <andeeeuk> or have any instructions
[14:15] <bl4ckcomb`> andeeeuk, you mean install?
[14:15] <andeeeuk> bl4ckcomb` : yeeah
[14:15] <bl4ckcomb`> andeeeuk, sudo apt-get install conky ?
[14:16] <geraud__> hello, I have a black screen after suspend or hibernate my laptop Gateway NV59C intel HD Graphics, intel core i3-330M
[14:17] <cousteau> andeeeuk, google for some conkyrc files
[14:17] <geraud__> please someone can help me to fix it ?
[14:17] <cousteau> (or read the doc and write your own... but you might prefer starting with some examples)
[14:18] <shududy> hellog guys
[14:18] <shududy> when i open a browser o a related program, my system suspends after 10 min
[14:21] <xgt001> excuse me
[14:21] <xgt001> i installed mainline kernel from ppa (2.6.37)
[14:22] <xgt001> it fails to boot, it crashes in midway stating (initializing radeon )
[14:23] <Polah> xgt001: Sounds like a bad display driver.
[14:23] <xgt001> Polah: it boots in the default natty kernel
[14:23] <RedRobot> does your screen just go black, or does it actually hang?
[14:23] <RedRobot> if the former, try disabeling outputs you don't use using the video kernel param
[14:23] <xgt001> RedRobot: it doesnt go blank... it crashes at ubuntu logo ...
[14:23] <cousteau> somebody should update the package youtube-dl, doesn't work on maverick...
[14:24] <Polah> xgt001: But that's a different kernel. Default Natty is 2.6.38 (for me, at least). Hence, if you installed a driver on that version of the kernel and are now attempting to downgrade it may not work.
[14:25] <RedRobot> xgt001: could try to boot with plymouth disabled
[14:25] <xgt001> Polah: i just installed with the open drivers.. after a fresh reinstall....i dint install ANYTHING except the OS and the extra kernel
[14:25] <Polah> xgt001: Is there any reason you need .37?
[14:25] <leaky> is it possible to hide certain applications on a desktop account? (im an ubuntu newbie)
[14:25] <xgt001> RedRobot,Polah: i had exactly same problem with 2.6.39.1
[14:26] <McFadden> Isn't the wiper.sh script supposed to be included the hdparm shipped in Ubuntu 10.10?
[14:26] <xgt001> i want to get extra battery life in .37
[14:26] <cousteau> leaky, what do you mean? hide the launcher?
[14:26] <leaky> yeah that'd be good, i was originally thinking just hiding stuff like terminac.
[14:26] <leaky> terminal etc*
[14:27] <Polah> leaky: You could put them on another workspace, but that doesn't really hide them.
[14:27] <leaky> can you remove the 'applications' launcher at the top? or is that not possible?
[14:28] <Polah> leaky: yeah, just right click the logo and click remove from panel.
[14:29] <leaky> @polah cheers, ill give it a try..
[14:30] <xgt001> any suggestions for me?
[14:31] <leaky> polah - worked a treat. nice one. thx!
[14:32] <Polah> xgt001, the kernel you have could be corrupt or incomplete. Just a suggestion.
[14:32] <xgt001> Polah: but the i dont know about .37 but .39.1 was indeed a stable kernel downloaded
[14:34] <Ryann> how would i force remove fglrx-amdcccle?
[14:34] <Polah> xgt001: Doesn't mean .37 is. Could also be a bad install of the drivers.
[14:35] <alain_> rpointel
[14:36] <Polah> Ryann: Use the --force-yes flag maybe. I'd be careful though, it might do something else along the way.
[14:36] <hbjhgghgh> hi all
[14:37] <hbjhgghgh> who know how to register channel with pass ?
[14:38] <canthus13> hbjhgghgh: try #freenode
[14:38] <bastidrazor> hbjhgghgh: ask in #freenode
[14:38] <oCean> hbjhgghgh: ask in #freenode
[14:38] <oCean> yeah, or that :)
[14:38] <hbjhgghgh> thx
[14:38] <markskilbeck> Hi, all. After connecting to VPN using the network manager, I'm no longer able to access the web. However, if I use kvpnc it works fine.
[14:39] <Ryann> Polah, thanks
[14:39] <Polah> markskilbeck, I imagine that's because your interface is being used to connect to the VPN and thus you need to disconnect from that and reconnect to your usual connection to use the internet normally.
[14:40] <orko213> Oh hai  of /NAMES list.
[14:40]  * orko213 Waves at  of /NAMES list.
[14:41] <markskilbeck> Hmm. Nevermind... I'll stick with kvpnc for now then.
[14:42] <jfcaron> Anyone know where/how rhythmbox keeps the list of files that it knows about?  I'd like to know how much disk space is used up for that purpose.
[14:44] <oCean> jfcaron: see ~/.local/share/rhythmbox
[14:45] <Nikro> that is the ditro name for Ubuntu 11.04 server?
[14:45] <shududy2> hi guys, i have a problem, when i start web browsers like firefox or chromium, my system suspends after a few minutes, i think it may be because of graphic acceleretors
[14:45] <shududy2> how can i make a troubleshooting
[14:46]  * Nikro nevermind)
[14:47] <Kruptein> Hey I want to open a local file in the default browser from command line,  xdg-open  won't open a file in a browser,   so what are my alternatives?
[14:47] <myrmidette> Kruptein, see if there's a $BROWSER shell variable
[14:49] <padi999> My Lenovo Thinkpad has a SIM Card slot, can I receive/write SMS through it or at least access sms or contacts on the sim card?
[14:50] <jiohdi> shududy2, you can disable the driver and see what that does
[14:50] <jiohdi> shududy2, if it works on normal mode you know its the driver
[14:51] <jiohdi> Kruptein, save the file as html and then just click on it
[14:53] <jiohdi> Kruptein, plain text will just print out... or you can use word or libre and save it with formatting in html
[14:55] <Kruptein> myrmidette: nope it's empty
[14:55] <myrmidette> :(
[14:56] <Kruptein> I hoped to find out how xdg-open found the default browser
[14:57] <Kruptein> this is the line in xdg-open  that sets the $BROWSER http://dpaste.com/553379/
[14:57] <Kruptein> but if I do xdg-open http://google.com     it will open opera as it's my default   but I can't find any reference to opera in whole the xdg-open file
[14:58] <jiohdi> you can create a launcher from your home folder with a file you create called url.sh  using #bash with a line like xdg-open URL
[14:58] <Ang3> hey guys - i want to install Ubuntu in Triple boot on my Macbook pro 7.1 but i see in the doc that the touchpad don't works well
[14:58] <Ang3> Is there a way to fix  ?
[14:58] <Ang3> it
[14:58] <Kruptein> jiohdi: it's for in a program that runs on other people their computer,  I'm not going to create launchers etc
[14:59] <jiohdi> Kruptein, its supposed to use your prefered browser set in preferred apps
[14:59] <denes> hi i have this sources http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/kernel/people/mcgrof/zd1211/LinuxUSB_AR2524-3.0.0.56.tgz and downloaded this directory http://htl10.users.sourceforge.net/patchsets/LinuxUSB_AR2524-3.0.0.56/ now please someone just tell me what do i type into the terminal to apply these patches. i tried "patch -i 0001..." and it just gave me hunk #1..16 failed
[15:00] <denes> everyone seems to use this so it must work i'm just not familiar with just how to apply patches
[15:00] <McFadden> Is the wiper.sh script shipped with hdparm in later versions than 10.10? I don't have it in 10.10.
[15:00] <jiohdi> Kruptein, sorry I helped, did not mean to offend you
[15:00] <Kruptein> jiohdi: huh you didn't? :D
[15:01] <nmvictor> I cant install compiz-dev in Natty, I try and I get some dependecies error: Details are here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10931196&posted=1#post10931196 , someone please hava a look and help
[15:01] <Kruptein> jiohdi: it's good you try to help, I just need a command-line way to open a local file in the browser
[15:02] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: What browser do you wish to use?
[15:02] <bastidrazor> McFadden: wiper.sh is in Natty's hdparm
[15:02] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: the default of the system
[15:02] <McFadden> bastidrazor, What version is Natty?
[15:02] <bastidrazor> McFadden: 11.04
[15:02] <McFadden> ok
[15:03] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: I don't want to force every user of my program to use one specific browser
[15:03] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: Just use gnome-open then.
[15:03] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: If you are making it Ubuntu specific
[15:04] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: but if someone set to open a .html by default with a text-editor  gnome-open won't open the browser
[15:08] <jp_> Hello all
[15:08] <theadmin> Hey jp_
[15:08] <Kruptein> hi
[15:08] <jp_> How is everyone today
[15:08] <jp_> ?
[15:09] <theadmin> jp_: Wrong channel.
[15:09] <jp_> ahh yes not a chitchat room
[15:09] <jp_> on my way then
[15:09] <orko213> Oh hai spanky!
[15:09]  * orko213 Waves at spanky
[15:10] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: On my xdg-open it ends up calling gnome-open anyway.
[15:10] <nmvictor> Is anybody able to install compiz-dev in his Natty Narwhal system, I have a dependecy error with my installation.
[15:10] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: yes on my xdg too
[15:10] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: but that's not my problem =D
[15:11] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: Ok. So then what is it, cause all I saw was something about you wanting it to open the browser but it kept opening opera and you didn't know why.
[15:11] <nerdshell> the option is --non-verbose or --no-verbose ?
[15:12] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: no you jumped on too late :p   so I want to have a command-line option to open a local file in the default browser
[15:12] <fjgj> @find Welcome to St Tropez
[15:12] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: So what happens when you pass it a file:// url?
[15:13] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: if I pass a file to xdg-open or gnome-open  they will open it with the default program (which probably is an editor)  but I want to open it with the default browser
[15:14] <th0r> Kruptein: just call the browser by name, firefox, opera, nautilus, etc
[15:14] <Kruptein> th0r: it's not for personal use, it's for a program
[15:15] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: Just tested on my system. Opened with firefox.
[15:15] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: what did you test exactly
[15:15] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: Did it with an XML file, which is associated with VIM btw.
[15:15] <rationalOgre> (well technically gvim)
[15:15] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: xdg-open file://~/settings.xml
[15:16] <Kruptein> well if I do  gnome-open  /home/kruptein/file.py   it just opens in deditor
[15:16] <rblst> hi, i've just downloaded xubuntu 11.04 and been trying to install it on a PII 400 Mhz machine with 512 MB RAM, but i get a kernel panic even before the installer loads, what can i do about it?
[15:16] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: also if I do  file:///home/kruptein/file.py
[15:16] <RedRobot> Kruptein: that is the right thing to do
[15:16] <RedRobot> Kruptein: specially if it is not +x
[15:16] <alvinPH> rblst: maybe your downloaded iso is corrupted
[15:16] <delinquentme> when editing persisten environment variables .. is there something that i need to do OTHER than saving the ~./profile file?
[15:17] <Kruptein> RedRobot: err? I want it to be opened with the default browser
[15:17] <delinquentme> or in /etc/environment ... just save it .. and they should be returned when you call  'printenv' right?
[15:17] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: then xdg-open is the wrong thing, sorry. XDG open tries to figure out how to intelligently handle the file, not just open it in a browser.
[15:17] <rblst> alvinPH, i mean,  i can start the installer, it starts loading, drawing those little sequential dots, but it never gets to the actual installer gui
[15:18] <ja> ej
[15:18] <RedRobot> Kruptein: why?
[15:18] <RedRobot> Kruptein: if it is a webapp, then run it trough wsgi
[15:18] <ja> gracie w dark orbit
[15:18]  * orko213 Waves at pratchett.freenode.net 401 orko213 PRIVMSG :No such nick/channel
[15:18] <orko213> Oh hai FiReSTaRT!
[15:18]  * orko213 Waves at FiReSTaRT
[15:18] <RedRobot> and some wev server
[15:18] <Kruptein> RedRobot: because I'm developing a text-editor and I just want to give the option to open the file in the browser
[15:18] <RedRobot> web*
[15:18] <orko213> Oh hai debian2!
[15:18]  * orko213 Waves at debian2
[15:19] <alvinPH> rblst: is your ISO desktop or alternate? alternate has no GUI installer
[15:19] <RedRobot> Kruptein: the your editor should check for $BROWSER and the default browser set in d/gconf and use that to open it
[15:19] <Kruptein> :f and what's the deal with the annoying wave bot
[15:19] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: Then detect the users browser settings and set it in your application.
[15:19] <Kruptein> RedRobot: okay gconf it will be
[15:20] <rblst> alvinPH, it is not the alternate iso; but i don't really need a gui, i just want xubuntu to be installed :) do you think the alternate cd will help me?
[15:20] <Kruptein> rationalOgre: that's my question indeed :p
[15:21] <alvinPH> rblst: yes you must try it if you know how to install via terminal or in text mode. :D
[15:21] <rationalOgre> Kruptein: So your question all along is, how do I detect the users browser settings on Ubuntu?
[15:21] <RedRobot> sadly there is no reliable way
[15:22] <rblst> alvinPH, i have never tried it, but i presume there must be some menu driven interface even in text mode
[15:23] <rblst> alvinPH, thanks for your answers
[15:23] <alvinPH> rblst: but I don't know if xubuntu has alternate ISO, yes alternate install has menu to choose from but has no gui, is it pentiumII
[15:23] <Guest55616> wassup
[15:24] <rblst> alvinPH, yes it is a PII machine
[15:24] <Klever> How do I get the size of mp3 in directory and all of its subdirectories?
[15:24] <rubenjr> wazzzupp!!
[15:25] <alvinPH> rblst: yes you must do alternate install because it is intended for older machines :D
[15:26] <RedRobot> Klever: find can do it, or if you only have mp3's in the dirs: du -sh whatever/
[15:27] <Klever> RedRobot: I've other files along with the mp3s, and just want to know the size the mp3s take
[15:27] <RedRobot> use find then
[15:28] <rblst> alvinPH, just as xubuntu is intented for older machines ;) i'll download the alternate iso then and give it a try, thanks again
[15:29] <RedRobot> use %s as the format and just sum them up
[15:29] <Klever> RedRobot: Something like: find images -name '*.gif'
[15:29] <Klever> Dunno what the other part would be
[15:30] <alvinPH> rblst: yes right again, your welcome :D
[15:33] <Wicek> jak kompilować C na linux?
[15:34] <oCean> !pl | Wicek
[15:36] <RedRobot> Klever: find . -iname "*.mp3" -printf "%s\n" | awk '{ SUM += $1 } END { print SUM/1024/1024 }'
[15:36] <RedRobot> or something along those lines
[15:36] <vec__> echo $(($(find mp3folder/ -name '*.mp3' -printf %k +) 0))
[15:36] <dirtycookie> hello people, i wanted to know how can i start tmux automatically when i open up a terminal
[15:38] <vec__> i wonder if my line would work :P
[15:38] <vec__> whats the maximum line length in ubuntu bash?
[15:39] <vec__> or the maximum argument length for that matter? i suppose its not an environment var
[15:39] <paras> hello
[15:41] <rog3236> I would like to migrate from Ubuntu 11.04 to Xubuntu 11.04 anyone have a link for a "recent" instruction for doing so ? Most I see are quite dated
[15:41] <ikonia> rog3236: just install xubuntu-desktop
[15:41] <ikonia> rog3236: that's it, the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu is just the desktop, nothing else
[15:41] <dirtycookie> hello people, i wanted to know how can i start tmux automatically when i open up a terminal
[15:41] <Seven_Six_Two> when I turn tor on and then off with vidalia, Evolution no longer connects to any servers...
[15:42] <ikonia> Seven_Six_Two: possibly because it doesn't know how to route through tor
[15:42] <Seven_Six_Two> ikonia, it won't connect when tor is turned off
[15:42] <ikonia> Seven_Six_Two: depends if the routing has been changed when you turn it on
[15:43] <vec__> ikonia: why dont we have gubuntu and uununtu?
[15:43] <vec__> uubuntu*
[15:43] <vec__> if the desktop is the only difference
[15:43] <ikonia> vec__: because canonical haven't made them as a seperate distro
[15:48] <carlotux> prova connessione datemi ok per ubuntu test
[15:49] <DeadEnd> My logs are filling up with a message "pwrdown, 0x6(BIT6)=f1" making them unreadable, how can I tell syslog or whatever it is, not to print that error
[15:49] <cartes9> df
[15:50] <|Anthony|> How can i make it so that only a specific user can do a virtual terminal switch? If i add DontVTSwitch to xorg.conf it will apply to all users, but i don't want that...
[15:51] <taaha> howto install package .rpm on ubuntu
[15:51] <|Anthony|> i don't want my 2 year old to be able to button mash and get into a terminal :/
[15:51] <ikonia> taaha: you don't
[15:51] <Fuchs> taaha: better look for a package suited for ubuntu, due to different configurations and dependencies
[15:51] <ikonia> taaha: rpm's are meant for redhat based dintrubutions
[15:51] <Fuchs> taaha: if you really really really have to, you can use alien on your own risk
[15:52] <Guest68273> heya folks, i went and played with compiz (compiz --replace) and suffered a crash after activating open gl. now there's no launcher, window decorations, etc. any idea how to get ubuntu/unity to return to normal?
[15:52] <|Anthony|> unity --replace
[15:52] <|Anthony|> maybe
[15:52] <taaha> howto use alien
[15:53] <rog3236> Noticed in Synaptic package manager that XUbuntu desktop is listed but also XUbuntu default settings should that package be installed as well as the desktop?
[15:53] <th0r> taaha: man alien
[15:53] <ikonia> taaha: please don't
[15:53] <ikonia> taaha: what software do you want to install ?
[15:53] <Guest68273> Anthony: "james@Deos:~$ unity --replace The program 'unity' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install unity"
[15:53] <|Anthony|> lol
[15:53] <MrMcCrazy> Hello Whenever I download a .deb file I cannot install it with ubuntu software centre  it gets so far and i have to reload it I have had this with google picasa, 2 versions of a printerdriver
[15:53] <ikonia> MrMcCrazy: is the package designed for ubuntu ?
[15:54] <MrMcCrazy> No
[15:54] <MrMcCrazy> ikonia NO
[15:54] <ikonia> MrMcCrazy: ok - so why are you tyring to install it on ubuntu ?
[15:54] <DeadEnd> he crazy
[15:54] <liminal> hello
[15:54] <rationalOgre> dirtycookie: Do you want it to run tmux on every invocation of gnome-terminal? if so, may I ask what it is you are trying to accomplish?
[15:54] <liminal> im having trouble with my multi screen setup in unity
[15:54] <liminal> does anyone have a second monitor working on unity?
[15:54] <MrMcCrazy> ikonia - how do I install them ?
[15:55] <ikonia> MrMcCrazy: you don't, if it's not designed for ubuntu, then you shouldn't be trying to install it
[15:55] <liminal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1780667
[15:55] <Guest68273> anthony, is the name of the launcher definitely unity? I've checked my software centre and there's no details of unity being removed :/
[15:55] <MrMcCrazy> ikonia - why dont it work with .deb files is there some sort of .ubu file
[15:56] <ikonia> MrMcCrazy: no, .debs are just a package format, however if the contents are not designed for ubuntu, you shouldn't be trying to use it
[15:56] <bobo123> i have created a simple shell script which contains only "whoami", and i set the setuid bit, the owner is root, and when i execute the script i get myUser, instead of root why?
[15:56] <rationalOgre> liminal: ATI or NVidia?
[15:57] <rationalOgre> bobo123: because you are running it as yourself. did you try sudo ./scriptname?
[15:57] <ikonia> bobo123: it's setuid, not sudo
[15:57] <taaha> I have a rpm package
[15:57] <liminal> rationalOgre, Intel
[15:57] <liminal> GMA 2400hd
[15:57] <MrMcCrazy> ikonia but how do I get my printer working, there are only .deb + .rpm files for it. alien didnt work
[15:57] <ikonia> taaha: ytou've said that
[15:57] <ikonia> MrMcCrazy: they won't work as they are not designed for your distro
[15:57] <th0r> ikonia: it might be easier on the nerves to just let them nuke their ubuntu installations <smile>
[15:58] <taaha> I'll look for one form of Deb
[15:58] <ikonia> th0r: my consience won't allow it
[15:58] <MrMcCrazy> ikonia is there a sort of generic printer driver to get my printer working
[15:58] <ikonia> MrMcCrazy: they are not generic
[15:58] <MrMcCrazy> ikonia ???
[15:58] <ikonia> MrMcCrazy: what printer do you have
[15:59] <MrMcCrazy> ikonia Canon MP140
[15:59] <robin0800> MrMcCrazy: you can use gdebi to install debs
[15:59] <bobo123> rationalOgre, i tried as sudo, i get that, but shouldn't i get also root, when i only do ./script?
[15:59] <sscssc> need french channel please
[15:59] <ikonia> !fr | sscssc
[16:00] <shududy> hello everyone
[16:00] <MrMcCrazy> robin0800 I will try
[16:00] <liminal> has anyone got a second monitor working unity?
[16:00] <liminal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1780667
[16:00] <MrMcCrazy> afk
[16:00] <shududy> i have a problem, when i open web based apps like firefox, chromium or thunderbird after a few minutes my system suspends
[16:00] <ikonia> liminal: can you please stop posting that forum link - if you want help with a forum link, use the forum, if you want help on irc, talk to people
[16:00] <shududy> even a reisub can not be helpful
[16:01] <shududy> id llke to know how can i learn the core of the problem
[16:01] <iCHoZeN_> hi im new here and i need a expert on Backtrack to install a driver! anyone?
[16:02] <ikonia> iCHoZeN_: try #backtrack-linux channel
[16:02] <ikonia> iCHoZeN_: this channel only supports ubuntu
[16:02] <ikonia> MrMcCrazy: please ping me when you are back, I've just read the documentation for your printer and linux
[16:03] <superfrogger79> hey guys, sorry to interupt, but is this the right place for ubuntu server questions?
[16:03] <ikonia> superfrogger79: sure you can ask, also #ubuntu-server
[16:03] <liminal_> iCHoZeN_, i think your in the wrong room
[16:03] <liminal_> #backtrack
[16:03] <ikonia> liminal: no,
[16:03] <shududy> i have a problem, when i open web based apps like firefox, chromium or thunderbird after a few minutes my system suspends
[16:03] <ikonia> liminal: it's #backtrack-linux and he's already been told as you can see
[16:04] <superfrogger79> ikonia:thanks ill ask there first
[16:04] <student> hi all
[16:04] <jimmie> Hello.
[16:04] <shududy> i have a problem, when i open web based apps like firefox, chromium or thunderbird after a few minutes my system freezes
[16:04] <rationalOgre> bobo123: Ubuntu ignores the setuid bit for shell scripts, most systems do. You have to run the script using super ./script
[16:05] <student> how can i boot the ubuntu installer with grub 0.97?
[16:05] <rationalOgre> bobo123: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9920
[16:05] <vec__> shududy: laptop=
[16:05] <vec__> ?
[16:05] <shududy> vec__: asus eeepc
[16:05] <shududy> vec__: 1015 pem
[16:05] <vec__> sounds like a ahcp issue
[16:05] <ikonia> superfrogger79: you don't, you boot the install from a cd
[16:05] <vec__> or somesuch
[16:05] <OldFarter> After i upgrade to 11.4 i've had the kernel spew its guts on my screen about twice a day,  any clue why?
[16:05] <vec__> a powermanagement issue perhaps
[16:05] <shududy> vec__: i m sorry it does not suspend, it freezes
[16:06] <ikonia> OldFarter: depends if you can give more information than "spew it's guts" - how do you expect people to help with that level of detail
[16:06] <ikonia> shududy: you don't, you boot the install from a cd
[16:06] <vec__> !pm | jimmie
[16:06] <shududy> ikonia: i have a problem, when i open web based apps like firefox, chromium or thunderbird after a few minutes my system freezes
[16:06] <shududy> ikonia: how can i make a troubleshoot
[16:06] <ikonia> shududy: yes, you've said 4 or 5 times
[16:07] <ikonia> shududy: look at the logs for starters ?
[16:07] <shududy> ikonia: you mean on the forums?
[16:07] <robin0800> shududy: try classic if your on 11.04
[16:07] <ikonia> shududy: no, means on your machine, look at the log files
[16:08] <Guest68273> random question, i'm busy trying to get my desktop back to normal and was wondering if unity is the name of the launcher shipped with 11.04?
[16:08] <shududy> ikonia: /var/log/messages ?
[16:08] <OldFarter> Well i'm going about just about any daily stuffs like checking mail, surfing web.... and then all of a sudden.... black screen, text console and a bunch of kernel state info rolling by at the speed of light
[16:08] <ikonia> shududy: that's a good start
[16:08] <shududy> robin0800: do you think it may be helpful
[16:09] <ikonia> OldFarter: ok, so the last few lines you see on screen would be useful
[16:09] <escott> Guest68273, yes unity is the 11.04 desktop
[16:10] <BlouBlou> Unity it's just the shell
[16:10] <abys> Hi there, I'm looking for some help to re-add and entry to boot on my windows 7 after installing natty. It doesn't detect it automatically on grub..
[16:10] <shududy> ikonia: how can i see if there was sth bad on the previous login
[16:10] <OldFarter> ikonia, how do you suggest i save those?   Take photo of my screen perhaps?
[16:10] <robin0800> shududy: it uses metacity not compiz so mmight help
[16:10] <Guest68273> thank you escott, any idea why it might've uninstalled? i installed compiz today and regret it :(
[16:11] <ikonia> OldFarter: make a note of the last few lines and let us know,
[16:11] <shududy> robin0800: are you sure that ubuntu classic will use metacity, not compiz?
[16:11] <escott> Guest68273, compiz is used by unity. more likely you enabled something with compiz that broke unity/made unity think you wanted something else
[16:11] <robin0800> shududy: yes
[16:11] <shududy> ok
[16:11] <escott> Guest68273, I would nuke ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz and ~/.config/compiz-1
[16:12] <escott> !nickname | Guest68273
[16:13] <Guest68273> escott, thanks for your responses :) i'm guessing nuke isn't a valid command? lol
[16:13] <rationalOgre> OldFarter: Those lines should be logged in dmesg
[16:13] <escott> Guest68273, i mean rm -rf. if you need to be on the channel longer can you please /nick somename_that_doesnt_begin_with_guest
[16:16] <liminal_> someone must use ubuntu 11.04 with a second screen
[16:16] <ikonia> liminal_: many people do, but there are also a lot of known problems
[16:17] <liminal_> a completely black screen is a fair problem alright.
[16:17] <rationalOgre> liminal_: Did you google the issue at all?
[16:17] <abys> How can I add my windows 7 partition in  the grub list? It's missing since I install natty :)
[16:18] <dr_willis> abys,   dirty way is to add it to your /etc/grub.d/40_custome file. but  just running sudo update-grub SHOULD find and add it automatically
[16:18] <abys> dr_willis:  the update does not :/
[16:18] <dr_willis> abys,  you may want to check the forums or the askubuntu.com site. they may have some tricks for making grub2 see the windows install. Its supposed to be seeing it.. but ive seen cases where it ignroes it for some reasion
[16:19] <dr_willis> some sort of bug in the os-prober tool. :(
[16:19] <leftist> i inadvertantly installed 32bit instead of 64bit on a system. is there any way to upgrade? or am i just being ridiculous and just redo it properly?
[16:19] <JamesGS> escott, I ran the commands you suggested. Should I now try and reinstall unity?
[16:19] <oCean> leftist: no way to upgrade
[16:19] <abys> dr_willis:  I was hoping not to get my hands dirty :p
[16:19] <jimmie> Leftist you need to boot the disk and redo it
[16:19] <escott> JamesGS, just logout and then login
[16:19] <leftist> yeah i know...i goofed :D
[16:19] <leftist> thanks
[16:20] <IdleOne> liminal_: alt-F2 and type Displays in the box. see if there is a check box for Extend Display
[16:20] <liminal_> rationalOgre, yeah my post in the ubuntu forum is the top result for it
[16:20] <liminal_> http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+multidesktop+background+not+extending#hl=en&pwst=1&sa=X&ei=-Nj0TZq_OMe6hAfS_dXaBg&ved=0CBgQvwUoAQ&q=ubuntu+multi+desktop+background+not+extending&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=93ecf0cfc9ca6151&biw=1360&bih=682
[16:20] <dr_willis> abys,  edit that file. add a entry that will load windows. :) but figureing out what to add can be the issue.
[16:21] <abys> dr_willis:  yep, that's kind of what I'm looking for ^_^
[16:21] <dr_willis> abys,  check someone elses grub.cfg to see what the tools normally ad. and cut/paste it
[16:21] <liminal_> Idleone see my post, the second screen is detected
[16:21] <liminal_> http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+multidesktop+background+not+extending#hl=en&pwst=1&sa=X&ei=-Nj0TZq_OMe6hAfS_dXaBg&ved=0CBgQvwUoAQ&q=ubuntu+multi+desktop+background+not+extending&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=93ecf0cfc9ca6151&biw=1360&bih=682
[16:21] <liminal_> sorry
[16:21] <FloodBot1> liminal_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <dr_willis> and change it as needed
[16:22] <abys> dr_willis:  menuentry "Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda3)" {
[16:22] <abys> 	insmod ntfs
[16:22] <abys> 	set root=(hd0,2)
[16:22] <abys> 	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 861EF8FB1EF8E559
[16:22] <abys> 	chainloader +1
[16:22] <abys> }
[16:22] <FloodBot1> abys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <liminal_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1780667
[16:22] <mysticsoul> Does anyone know why I cannot enable Xinerama on an ATI Radeon HD 5450
[16:22] <mysticsoul> ?
[16:22] <gbase> .wc
[16:22] <abys> dr_willis:  what I've got for know,  but not sure avout search and root
[16:23] <dr_willis> !uuid
[16:23] <dr_willis> change the uuid@ to match your uuid
[16:23] <dr_willis> and  hd0,2 = the first hd. 2nd partition
[16:24] <abys> dr_willis:  good stuff, that's help a lot ;)
[16:24] <dirtycookie> hello people, i wanted to know how can i start tmux automatically when i open up a terminal
[16:24] <mysticsoul> Does anyone know why I cannot enable Xinerama on an ATI Radeon HD 5450
[16:24] <escott> dirtycookie, add it to your .bashrc
[16:24] <dirtycookie> escott: what is the exact line? tmux& ?
[16:24] <abys> dr_willis:  do I have to do an update to add the entry?
[16:25] <escott> dirtycookie, sure
[16:25] <mysticsoul> Hey people, does anyone know why I cannot enable Xinerama on an ATI Radeon HD 5450?
[16:25] <dirtycookie> escott: ok
[16:25] <rationalOgre> liminal_: So, can you specifically set a wallpaper to that screen?
[16:26] <rationalOgre> liminal_: And does it work as expected? (i.e. drag windows to it and such)
[16:26] <mysticsoul> Xinerama comes up greyed out in the ATI control panel. How can I enable it?
[16:26] <liminal_> mysticsoul, do you have a second monitor attached?
[16:27] <rly> When I do modprobe snd-emu10k1 I see no output in dmesg. In lspci this soundcard is listed. In the pulse audio preferences the card is not listed. How can I get it to be listed?
[16:27] <dr_willis> abys,  to generate a new grub.cfg you always have to run update-grub
[16:27] <liminal_> rationalOgre, as you can see from the screen shot.. the second monitor is completely black,, apart from the taskbar and mouse pointer
[16:27] <mysticsoul> liminal_: Yes I do
[16:27] <escott> rly, verify it loaded with lsmod
[16:27] <Benkinooby> hi, i want to make youtube playlists without creting a youtube account. i noticed that some multimedia player (totem, vlc) can play youtube videos, so i plan to make playlists, that let the player use youtube urls. unforunatly, i the vlc version is too old (1.1 or higher required) and i can manage to use totem. apart from upgrading vlc, any ideas? could also be something total different
[16:28] <Benkinooby> i use ubuntu 10.04
[16:28] <rationalOgre> liminal_: Does it work as expected, though?
[16:28] <dirtycookie> escott: well i get the message "not a terminal"
[16:28] <escott> dirtycookie, what is tmux
[16:28] <rationalOgre> liminal_: I realize the wallpaper is not going across, but can you put windows in it and such?
[16:28] <mysticsoul> liminal_: I've got both monitors attached and functional but for some reason I go into ATI Control panel and it is greyed out. One monitor is on the VGA port and another on the DVI. Both 20" Dell Screens.
[16:28] <abys> dr_willis: is it supposed to show up when I do the update? or I'll see it after reboot?
[16:28] <dirtycookie> it is a terminal multiplexer like screen
[16:28] <rationalOgre> dirtycookie: why would you want to start tmux every time you open a gnome-terminal?
[16:29] <rly> escott: it lists it (and some related ones)
[16:29] <dirtycookie> so that i have the option to create multiple terminals in one window
[16:29] <mysticsoul> liminal_: Xinerama is greyed out and it does not tell me why.
[16:29] <MiScHi3f> Hello, I recently upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 with a fresh install. When the system boots normally I get a purple screen and it stays like that indefinitely. However, if I hard power down and retry, grub brings up the menu due to not shutting down correctly and allows me to boot after I choose normal mode. How do I get this resolved?
[16:29] <liminal_> rationalOgre,  no.. nothing goes across
[16:29] <abys> http://paste.ubuntu.com/625238/
[16:29] <liminal_> well it does move across,, but just goes into the inky blackness
[16:30] <escott> rly, i would think you are supposed to start tmux instead of bash. ie change your graphical terminal to start tmux as your shell not bash
[16:30] <JamesGS> escott, unity now claims that i do not have the hardware to run it :( it's put me onto Ubuntu Classic
[16:30] <Roo79> I have Natty and I have uninstalled evolution and now I want to set desktop webmail as my default what is the terminal command to do it please? as the option in preferred applications is now greyed out
[16:31] <escott> JamesGS, do you know what kind of graphics card you have? if not run lspci in a terminal and it should say
[16:31] <rly> escott: what?
[16:32] <liminal_> mysticsoul, are you mirroring your desktop?
[16:32] <mysticsoul> liminal_: no I'm not.
[16:32] <liminal_> try it.
[16:32] <JamesGS> escott, "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series" - it worked fine before today
[16:33] <yanghao> haha
[16:33] <yanghao> hello
[16:33] <yanghao> someone here?
[16:33] <mysticsoul> liminal: you mean mirror desktop and then go into control panel to check if Xinerama is enabled?
[16:33] <oCean> hello yanghao, do you have a support question?
[16:33] <escott> rly, open the terminal window right click find profile -> profile preferences -> Title and Command then click "run a custom command instead of my shell" and put in tmux. i think that is what you need to do
[16:33] <yanghao> yes
[16:33] <MiScHi3f> Hello, I recently upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 with a fresh install. When the system boots normally I get a purple screen and it stays like that indefinitely. However, if I hard power down and retry, grub brings up the menu due to not shutting down correctly and allows me to boot after I choose normal mode. How do I get this resolved?
[16:34] <yanghao> its my first time to here
[16:34] <escott> !paste | JamesGS run glxinfo and send it to us
[16:34] <yanghao> please help me
[16:34] <oCean> yanghao: describe your issue (detailed, but in single line) in the channel
[16:34] <liminal_> mysticsoul, yes
[16:34] <mysticsoul> MiScHi3f: Try editing the entry from the GRUB menu and remove the word "quiet" from it to know exactly where it is failing.
[16:34] <dr_willis> MiScHi3f,  try the nomodeset option, and/or disable the plymouth  by editing the grub line  changeing the 'quiet splash' to be 'noquiet nosplash' or 'nomodeset'  (or all 3)
[16:34] <mysticsoul> thanks liminal_ will try that now.
[16:34] <yanghao> who are you?
[16:35] <dr_willis> I think when it sees noquiet its the same as just removeing quiet. :)
[16:35] <oCean> yanghao: this is ubuntu technical support
[16:35] <MiScHi3f> mysticsoul: My apologies for my ignorance. Where do I edit the grub menu?
[16:35] <rly> escott: you are talking to the WRONG person.
[16:35] <rly> escott: I had an audio issue, remember?
[16:35] <dr_willis> MiScHi3f,  or go extreme and just replace  both quiet splash, and use 'text' that should get you to a console. where you can  see if you can get X going. install whatever drivers and so forth
[16:36] <Benkinooby> hi, i want to watch youtube video with (any) media player. i use ubuntu 10.04. totem, after folowing a how-to resutls in a reported (but not solved bug) "GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.". vlc would need to be at version 1.1 or highr to do the magic. some1 know how to fix the totem thing?
[16:36] <escott> rly, sorry i mean dirtycookie got confused
[16:36] <mysticsoul> liminal_: I tried it but does not seem to enable it. I'm going into the ATI control panel in admin mode (typing in the admin password).
[16:36] <yanghao> who can help me ?
[16:37] <MiScHi3f> dr_willis: where do I edit out -quite? I am still rather green to linux.
[16:37] <oCean> yanghao: you still have not asked your question
[16:37] <godda> I have an Intel Centrino wireless card in my new laptop. Can't get wireless working. Any suggestions to try, or links?
[16:37] <Roo79> I have Natty and I have uninstalled evolution and now I want to set desktop webmail as my default what is the terminal command to do it please? as the option in preferred applications is now greyed out
[16:38] <dr_willis> MiScHi3f,  when you boot up. you hit the shift key if you Dont see the grub menu.. or else you hit some Other key to 'edit' the grub menu once you do see the grub menu (tab key i think?)
[16:38] <blackroot> @godda whats the specification ?
[16:38] <escott> rly, so the emu10k1 is not listed under other outputs in the sound preferences
[16:38] <JamesGS> escott, glxinfo only outputs "name of display: :0.0"
[16:38] <yanghao> my audacious is not sound
[16:38] <rly> escott: that is what I said.
[16:38] <rly> escott: in the lspci it is now also not listed, btw.
[16:38] <mysticsoul> MiScHi3f: when you see the GRUB boot menu just select the entry you wish to edit and press E to edit it. then you can change the line you're editing and hit enter to boot using those new options.
[16:39] <rly> escott: when I put in my audio cable, it crashed the kernel, btw.
[16:39] <MiScHi3f> dr_willis and mysticsoul, Thank you for your time and I will give that a try
[16:39] <escott> rly, the not being listed in lspci is probably the source of the problems. lspci should list every device
[16:39] <godda> blackroot wireless-n
[16:39] <rly> escott: no, it is not the source.
[16:39] <rly> escott: since before it did list it.
[16:39] <mysticsoul> MiScHi3f: See if that works. If it successfully boots your machine then you can permanently change it in the GRUB config files.
[16:40] <rly> escott: the problem is likely that the PCI device wants to have some particular hardcoded IRQ.
[16:40] <blackroot> @godda...i meant the model no ? or rather tell me your laptop model...shall check it up
[16:40] <rly> escott: and likely new kernels do things differently.
[16:40] <rly> escott: so, it stopped working.
[16:40] <escott> rly, but you plugged in the cord and the kernel oops, and on the reboot its not there. sounds like the device didnt come back from the soft-reset. try a hard/cold reboot (complete shutdown wait 5 seconds etc)
[16:40] <rly> escott: _that_ is the problem.
[16:40] <mysticsoul> liminal_: any ideas why Xinerama is still greyed out?
[16:40] <godda> blackroot HP dm4-1160us
[16:40] <rly> escott: I can try that. BRB.
[16:41] <liminal_> mysticsoul, i think you might have to play with your xorg settings
[16:41] <liminal_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/14780/how-can-i-disable-xinerama
[16:41] <liminal_> CAREFULL this is dangerous
[16:41] <mysticsoul> liminal_: thanks for that. I'll have a play with it and see if I can enable it.
[16:42] <blackroot> godda which version of ubuntu are you using ?
[16:42] <escott> JamesGS, so you don't have glx. for ati you have two options. one is the amd driver the other is something called radeonhd. the amd driver has better performance and the radeonhd is open source if you want to open up the hardware drivers you might be able to install one of them
[16:42] <mark007> hola
[16:42] <mark007> una consulta
[16:42] <Roo79> I have Natty and I have uninstalled evolution and now I want to set desktop webmail as my default what is the terminal command to do it please? as the option in preferred applications is now greyed out
[16:43] <mark007> hey!!! can speak spanish??
[16:43] <oCean> !es | mark007
[16:44] <mark007> ok
[16:44] <philinux> Benkinooby: Can you play youtube flash videos on their site?
[16:44] <Plugh> I just completed the update to 11.04 from 9.10 on my desktop. I have 10 issues still to deal with (so far). One of the first ones is figuring out where I save my session snapshot. I'm running Gnome 2 for my desktop. I can't find the menu entry for saving a session.
[16:45] <escott> Plugh, gnome-session-properties should have a checkbox
[16:45] <olskolirc> hey how do I get this?  I'm on Kubuntu and don't have one but this one I want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In0-_VF5Pe8
[16:45] <escott> Plugh, if it doesn't i know it can be found in gconf-editor
[16:45] <dr_willis> Actually you are running the 'ubuntu-classic' which i thought is not quite the same as gnome-2
[16:45] <rationalOgre> liminal_: Google isn't showing much and I'm not that good with debugging dual monitor setups. Sorry. :(
[16:45] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:46] <Benkinooby> philinux, youtube website works. i want to play the videos in an externam player so that i can make youtube playlists but i don't want to use a youtube account for this. all i want is to tell a player "play this link, then paly this link,..."
[16:46] <rationalOgre> liminal_: have you tried Ubuntu Classic mode to see if it works with vanilla Gnome?
[16:46] <Benkinooby> philinux, i allready tried some how.tos but the didn't work... neither for mpalyer nor for totem
[16:46] <rly> escott: it is not listed after a cold boot.
[16:47] <JamesGS> escott, are both the amd and radeonhd drivers available in the software-center?
[16:47] <rationalOgre> liminal_: could be a problem with the driver, compiz, unity... It's hard to tell.
[16:47] <flnbak> I've had a lot of problems with ubuntu 11.04
[16:47] <flnbak> my whole system froze on one occasion
[16:48] <liminal_> rationalOgre,  ill give it a go now
[16:48] <flnbak> anybody experiencing problems with 11.04?
[16:48] <matthias_> any ideas where I can reset some changes done with 'export' =
[16:48] <escott> JamesGS, yes you should be able to find the amd in additional drivers. the radeonhd is in software center/synaptic
[16:48] <lol123> ubuntu is an old african word,it means " I am retarded,I don't know how to netinstall debian"
[16:49] <oCean> lol123: please stop such comments
[16:49] <JamesGS> escott, apparently ATI Radeon X.Org Driver is already installed
[16:49] <rationalOgre> ahh distro elitists...
[16:49] <nithin935> hey all u experts, recommend a good project for my computer paper
[16:49] <escott> rly, i would check your bios to see if you can do something to give the device an assigned irq. if lspci isn't showing it then its not being initialized correctly
[16:49] <godda> blackroot - sorry, I lost my connection for a minute. Did you have an answer for me?
[16:50] <rly> escott: I will put it in another slot first and then try that.
[16:50] <escott> JamesGS, thats probably radeonhd. its possible you have two things installed and they are conflicting. cant you !paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:50] <Plugh> dr_willis: you may be right. I installed gnome-desktop-environment and at login time I select Ubuntu Classic.
[16:51] <rationalOgre> escott: sudo lshw -C video not showing it?
[16:51] <Plugh> escott: The session properties dialog box does not have a checkbox anywhere for saving session.
[16:51] <oCean> olskolirc: the grub-customizer is available from PPA, but mind you, it's unsupported 3rd party software
[16:52] <escott> Plugh, then open gconf-editor and go to apps gnome-session options and click auto save session
[16:53] <Plugh> escott: ok, found it. That will snapshot my session when I log out then I can log back in again and uncheck it so it won't change my session again later?
[16:54] <rly> escott: It is now listed in lspci, but the audio cable is not put in.
[16:54] <rly> escott: I am pretty sure that it will crash once I do that, though.
[16:54] <JamesGS> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/625252/
[16:54] <lekefly_> Can someone point me in a direction so i can get terminal output to a webpage?
[16:54] <escott> Plugh, if you just want it one time use gnome-session-save
[16:55] <oCean> lekefly_: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[16:55] <MagicJ> I have installed from a known good thumb drive on a machine that runs perfectly from the live CD on that thumb drive and RAN Windoze XP well.  The thing will not boot, it is almost as though the boot record did not get writte, I do note that during install it says all is good but after setting up users instead of the useual, "you need to reboot" it goes to the live CD sign on menu - Help please
[16:55] <lekefly_> oCean: What says it has to be a issue?
[16:55] <rationalOgre> lekefly_: like are you trying to run a terminal using a cgi script and then send the output back via http?
[16:56] <rly> What does this format mean? pci@0000:06:01.0
[16:56] <rly> I.e., what is 6 and 1?
[16:56] <lekefly_> rationalOgre: Hmm im trying to get the text from the terminal window to a http page and updated quite often
[16:56] <rationalOgre> MagicJ: Did you install into the thumb drive or onto your hard drive.
[16:57] <rly> escott: it is also listed in the sound preferences now.
[16:57] <rly> escott: I will just put in the audio cable, and observe the crashing...
[16:57] <rationalOgre> lekefly_: beyond the scope of this channel. I honestly don't know what channel you would try in. Perhaps the channel for your webserver?
[16:57] <rationalOgre> ex #apache
[16:57] <MagicJ> rationalOgre: from the thumb to the hard, and I know the thumb is good because I have used it to install a number of other machines
[16:57] <godda> Any suggestions for an Intel Centrino Wireless-N that can scan/find signals but can't connect? It doesn't even look like it's trying to make a connection.
[16:57] <Plugh> escott: Ah, ok. Thanks.
[16:58] <lekefly_> rationalOgre: lol no? :p
[16:58] <MagicJ> rationalOgre: also, when I look at the hard drive partitions all looks good, this is why I say I suspect it is the boot record
[16:59] <rationalOgre> MagicJ: Ok. Boot to the liveusb again and mount the drive partitions somewhere, then poke around /var/log and see if you can figure out what is going wrong.
[16:59] <escott> JamesGS, that shows you using fglrx which are the amd drivers. i don't know why you wouldn't have glx. I would go into additional drivers and try to reinstall/reenable the amd drivers
[16:59] <rationalOgre> MagicJ: things to check, /var/log/boot.log, /var/log/dmesg
[17:00] <rationalOgre> MagicJ: /var/log/boot
[17:00] <rly> escott: ok, it appears to work now to my great amazement.
[17:00] <escott> rly, the different slot probably has a different irq
[17:00] <rationalOgre> MagicJ: Is it a dual-boot setup? Or strictly ubuntu?
[17:01] <rly> escott: yes, but IMHO, I should be able to put it into any slot.
[17:01] <JamesGS> escott, i'd be grateful for step-by-step instructions on how to re-install them - having difficulty finding out
[17:02] <ermiyas> hi
[17:02] <Plugh> Hm... session save seems to have helped a little (I think). Volume control icon was in the corner when I logged in after a log out. Skype, pidgin, and my terminal window didn't start up automatically.
[17:02] <rly> escott: is it even still possible to assign IRQs to different PCI devices?
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> IRQs are for legacy systems, most modern OSs do not use them that are plug'n'play capable
[17:02] <escott> rly, most bioses will let you
[17:02] <rationalOgre> rly: Your bios has to have the ability. many do, some don't.
[17:02] <rly> pragmaticenigma: dmesg | grep IRC # you where saying?
[17:02] <rly> pragmaticenigma: dmesg | grep IRQ # you where saying?
[17:03] <oCean> lekefly_: (was afk for a bit) primary focus of this channel is providing help with technical ubuntu issues (such as how to fix this or that) In general there are better suited channels for questions such as yours. Maybe #bash or ##httpd
[17:03] <pragmaticenigma> I didn't say they weren't there
[17:03] <escott> JamesGS, try sudo apt-get remove fglrx; sudo apt-get install fglrx
[17:03] <rly> pragmaticenigma: ok, but they just don't have to be configured often anymore.
[17:04] <pragmaticenigma> right, rly, they are there for legacy programs and hardware that still need them... most everything else is addressed through the kernel's assigned hardware addresses
[17:04] <saju_m> I an using ubuntu 11 and audio was working till now,  but after restart audio not working. Hint : Audio drive not showing under  sound preferencs ---> Hardware
[17:05] <saju_m> How fix it
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> saju_m: what did you do prior to restarting the machine? Did you perform an Update, install new software, change any settings?
[17:06] <JamesGS> escott, thank you! now I logout and try again?
[17:06] <rationalOgre> saju_m: does the sound card still show up when running "sudo lshw -C sound" (without the quotes)
[17:07] <wcchandler> In the classic menu of Ubuntu/gnome where is terminal?  Applications > then what?  Trying to get my mum to open a terminal but I'm running unity
[17:08] <ermiyas> my nokia 75 didnt work as a media transfer on my  linux ubuntu
[17:08] <rationalOgre> wcchandler: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[17:08] <JamesGS> wcchandler: Applicaions > Accessories > Terminal
[17:08] <escott> JamesGS, yeah. hopefully it works
[17:08] <pragmaticenigma> wcchandler: it's usually under the accessories menu
[17:09] <italic> hi. i installed a package from source with a patch, but when i want to apt-get upgrade, it wants to get the one i dont want, how do i get around this?
[17:09] <wcchandler> rational0gre,JamesGS,pragmaticenigma: thanks!
[17:09] <pragmaticenigma> italic: There should be an option in the Synaptic Package manager to ignore package updates for the application that you don't want the system to update
[17:09] <|Anthony|> How can i make it so that only a specific user can do a virtual terminal switch? If i add DontVTSwitch to xorg.conf it will apply to all users, but i don't want that...
[17:10] <|Anthony|> i don't want my 2 year old to be able to button mash and get into a terminal :/
[17:10] <pragmaticenigma> italic: Question: Did you have the package installed prior to installing from source?
[17:10] <saju_m> Here is the output of lshw -C sound http://dpaste.com/553399
[17:10] <italic> pragmaticenigma: i did, then purged it before installing the new one
[17:10] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: As long as you don't leave yourself logged in via the terminal you shouldn't have anything to worry about
[17:11] <saju_m> i did update
[17:11] <|Anthony|> yeah...
[17:11] <zhanggd> first time here..
[17:11] <JamesGS> escott, it's defaulting to classic mode despite selecting ubuntu :/
[17:11] <pragmaticenigma> saju_m: It would be likely that your update broke something... what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[17:11] <zhanggd> hullo.~
[17:12] <saju_m> ubuntu 11
[17:12] <oCean> hi zhanggd, how can this channel help you?
[17:12] <|Anthony|> i'm setting up a box for a 2 year old... things are inevitably going to get borked
[17:12] <saju_m> Linux saju-laptop 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:12] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: I know kids and computers don't mix, but chances of button mashing CTRL+ALT+Fn is not likely with their little hands
[17:12] <|Anthony|> you would be surprised
[17:12] <zhanggd> i'm not sure. i'm just trying to use this. I guess I may learn sth here later~
[17:12] <|Anthony|> lol
[17:13] <oCean> zhanggd: you're quite welcome to idle here, and you are welcome to use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: You could try disabling a few of the VTs, smaller target that way
[17:13] <|Anthony|> hmm
[17:13] <saju_m> i also tried apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[17:13] <escott> JamesGS, im not sure why your glx isn't working. it seems like X is using fglrx, perhaps check what ls -l /usr/lib/libGL* says
[17:14] <|Anthony|> i thought there might be a session option somewhere
[17:14] <zhanggd> oCean: thx for your help~
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> saju_m: 64bit Linux and Audio drivers are not always well supported... how much ram are you using?
[17:14] <saju_m> 4gb
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: I know there must be a tool out there some where
[17:15] <saju_m> it was working
[17:15] <Angel2006> hi all :)
[17:15] <JamesGS> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/625269/
[17:15] <pragmaticenigma> saju_m: You should just install the 32bit version if all your going to use is 4gigs of ram... 32 bit mode can still address all the RAM and you will not see a performance hit
[17:15] <|Anthony|> i was thinking it should be a line in Xsession or maybe an Xorg.conf for each user
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> I'm trying to find out how the hot keys are set
[17:16] <cordor> wget doesn't seem to parse img tag, is it because of character encoding?
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> I can easily find the settings to remove the extra VTs, but not so much luck in disabling the Hotkeys |Anthony|
[17:16] <|Anthony|> :/
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> cordor: wget has to be told to download the images
[17:16] <saju_m> can i upgrade to 32 bit ubuntu from 64bit
[17:16] <escott> JamesGS, I'm afraid I just don't know what to look for. I think the problem may be that your libgl is the mesa libgl but your driver is the amd fglrx, but I don't know how to fix it
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> saju_m: No
[17:17] <|Anthony|> a way to have a per user xorg.conf would be ideal
[17:17] <saju_m> then how go to 32bit
[17:18] <cordor> pragmaticenigma: i have -r -l 2 -A ...,jpg,gif,png
[17:18] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: Xorg is trying to move away from having the file to begin with
[17:18] <rationalOgre> saju_m: When you rebooted and found audio gone, did you try rebooting again/ just to see if it was a glitch somewhere?
[17:18] <|Anthony|> i know
[17:18] <|Anthony|> and am annoyed
[17:18] <|Anthony|> >.<
[17:18] <JamesGS> escott, don't worry about it :) I appreciate you trying to help! definitely the last time i muck about with compiz though, lol
[17:18] <saju_m> yes
[17:19] <|Anthony|> Xorg and consolekit are both moving away from a linux staple... handling multiple concurrent sessions
[17:19] <eb3ha4el> how do i check if my processor is i686 or not
[17:20] <|Anthony|> what cpu do you have?
[17:20] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[17:20] <oCean> eb3ha4el: grep lm </proc/cpuinfo
[17:20] <rationalOgre> saju_m: try lsmod | grep -i HDA
[17:20] <eb3ha4el> It's Atom, thanks all
[17:20] <nothingspecial> |Anthony|: If she/he is two, set her account to login automatically in the gui, then give her a incredibly long, complex, unmashable password..... so that even if she can access the terminals she will not be able to log on
[17:21] <|Anthony|> lol nothingspecial
[17:21] <|Anthony|> she can work an iphone
[17:21] <|Anthony|> she'll be 1337 by the time she's 5
[17:21] <MagicJ> rationalOgre: sorry for the delay there - some weird connection problem - it should be Ubuntu only - that's what I told it during install
[17:22] <saju_m> lsmod | grep -i HDA, dot showing anything
[17:22] <saju_m> lsmod | grep -i HDA, dont showing anything
[17:22] <dr_willis> there are 64 and 32bit atom cpus these days i belive
[17:22] <rationalOgre> saju_m: Ok. then try sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> if she'll be l33t by 5 then she'll already have probably rewritten her own OS! |Anthony|
[17:22] <nothingspecial> |Anthony|: lol, I've been annoying my kids by being more capable with computers than them for years.
[17:23] <rationalOgre> MagicJ: Ok. Multiple hard drives on the system? Or just the one?
[17:23] <|Anthony|> well that's the key really... to stay a few steps ahead of the kids
[17:23] <dr_willis> ToddlerOS
[17:23] <|Anthony|> haah
[17:23] <nothingspecial> |Anthony|: I like sshing into their boxes and telling them to go to bed with espeak before logging them out.
[17:23] <dr_willis> Trashbin = Diaper Pail :P
[17:23] <|Anthony|> love it
[17:24] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: is she playing on the family computer or one of her own?
[17:24] <saju_m> modprobe snd_hda_intel, dont showing anything
[17:24] <JamesGS_> escott, you won't believe it but it now works!! I did a unity --reset and it froze my computer so forced a reboot and now it works!!
[17:24] <|Anthony|> atm on the htpc in the living room... but i've grown tired of fighting for the right to reclaim it so i'm putting together one of her own
[17:24] <JamesGS_> bizarre
[17:25] <escott> JamesGS, I think on logout it may not have been restarting X
[17:25] <escott> JamesGS, so it didnt catch the new driver
[17:25] <saju_m> vim /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf http://dpaste.com/553402/
[17:25] <rationalOgre> saju_m: now run sudo lshw -C sound | grep -i configuration
[17:25] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: An idea would be just to build the system up, then do a weekly or monthly drive image backup of it... then if she borks it you just retrieve the last image
[17:25] <JamesGS_> escott, and there was me hoping it was magic ;)
[17:25] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: she is only two, she isn't going to notice missings files just yet
[17:26] <MagicJ> rationalOgre: just one drive
[17:26] <JamesGS_> thank you escott :) works a charm!
[17:26] <|Anthony|> i plan on having to do disk images... that's why i put a small 40 GB drive in there
[17:26] <saju_m> lshw -C sound | grep -i configuration  ----> configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0
[17:26] <rationalOgre> saju_m: Try sound now
[17:28] <saju_m> ok working , but low volume
[17:28] <sdi> hallo alle
[17:28] <|Anthony|> i've locked down most applications i don't want her to stumble on to... and disabled admin features... the only things left to do are get rid of VT switching for her account and a way to limit her filemanager so that she can only see what's in her $HOME directory
[17:28] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: I learned the hard way growing up about messing up something on a computer (C:\format /s/c on an IBM PS2) Dad wasn't too proud but I had to learn how to reinstall DOS 2.0
[17:28] <|Anthony|> hahaha
[17:28] <sdi> hab mal eine frage zwecks public_html
[17:28] <nothingspecial> |Anthony|: Get a keyboard that's easy to take apart and clean --- sticky fingers, jam, crumbs etc -- nightmare
[17:29] <oCean> !de | sdi
[17:29] <saju_m> i put full volume, but sound is low
[17:29] <sdi> ah ok
[17:29] <rationalOgre> saju_m: So sound is working again, just difficult to hear?
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> saju_m: check the PCM volume level
[17:29] <saju_m> yes
[17:30] <|Anthony|> can't forget about the optical mouse too... need a ball mouse or else she'll end up staring at the optical beam
[17:30] <saju_m> PCm volume is fumm in alsamixer
[17:30] <saju_m> PCm volume is full in alsamixer
[17:31] <beef-supreme> how can i set a global font size?
[17:31] <beef-supreme> i have a big ass monitor and the font size is too small
[17:31] <pragmaticenigma> |Anthony|: Find her a track ball instead ... easier for small hands and easier to clean
[17:32] <administrator_> h
[17:32] <pragmaticenigma> beef-supreme: Under System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[17:32] <administrator_> hi
[17:32] <pragmaticenigma> beef-supreme: select the font tab
[17:33] <rationalOgre> saju_m: You'll need to figure out why snd_hda_intel is not loading. Perhaps it's being blacklisted.
[17:33] <escott> beef-supreme, appearance -> fonts -> details
[17:34] <jo-erlend> I could use some help setting up Anyremote with support for bluetooth. Is anyone has experience?
[17:35] <beef-supreme> escott, i removed gnome-session and everything related to it
[17:35] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma,  i removed gnome-session and everything related to it
[17:36] <fari> hai
[17:36] <beef-supreme> can any of you tell me what the official app name is so i can install it?
[17:36] <pragmaticenigma> What are you using as a window manager beef-supreme ?
[17:36] <escott> beef-supreme, gnome-appearance-properties
[17:36] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, openbox
[17:36] <beef-supreme> escott, can't i do it without gnome-appearance ?
[17:36] <escott> beef-supreme, but without gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon I don't know how anything works
[17:37] <dr_willis> gnome/gtk apps would use differnt settings then what openbox window manager would be using
[17:37] <escott> beef-supreme, you may be forced to hand edit .gtkrc
[17:37] <pragmaticenigma> escott: He isn't using gnome as his window manager, installing that program will not help him
[17:38] <TimothyA> how do i create a partition, or resize an existing partition?
[17:38] <edbian> TimothyA: Using gparted
[17:38] <BlouBlou> TimothyA: Try gparted
[17:38] <pragmaticenigma> beef-supreme: I use XFCE and have noticed that I have to change the font size in each program manually that I am using... it a PITA but I like it better than a cetral config file that gets corrupted
[17:38] <BlouBlou> !gparted | TimothyA
[17:38] <TimothyA> commandline
[17:39] <escott> TimothyA, parted
[17:39] <edbian> TimothyA: fdisk   (but that's harder)
[17:39] <pragmaticenigma> beef-supreme: I am guessing that you will need to just set each one up individually... you could try going under your graphics settings and lowering/raising the DPI for your monitor settings
[17:39] <TimothyA> wasn't there an ncurses partitioning tool?
[17:39] <Thraspic> Hey guys, I'm looking to get WICD to NOT scan for AP's automatically, I only want it to scan when I hit "Refresh".  Any ideas?
[17:39] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, but there has to be some sort of global file, i noticed puppy linux has a lower global font size than ubuntu
[17:39] <dr_willis> parted or fdisk TimothyA
[17:39] <rickylolz> Hey guys! I love using Ubuntu! ^^
[17:40] <beef-supreme> so that Sans 12 looks much bigger in ubuntu than puppy
[17:40] <beef-supreme> but this isn't about puppy
[17:40] <beef-supreme> this is about the new monitor
[17:40] <Chotaz> what can I use in ubuntu to check sfv file integrity?
[17:40] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, i think it's the dpi i'm looking for
[17:40] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, right?
[17:40] <pragmaticenigma> beef-supreme: very likely
[17:40] <IdleOne> Chotaz: cksfv
[17:41] <escott> beef-supreme, i think you can specify dpi in your xorg.conf
[17:41] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigmam escott , i'll check the nvidia-settings file
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> escott: Most new installations of Ubuntu do not use the xorg.conf file
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> beef-supreme: sounds supurb!
[17:41] <TimothyA> dr_willis: parted gives me warnings about how I should not use it
[17:42] <dr_willis> TimothyA,  do you know how to use it? if you mess up. you can delete your system.
[17:42] <dr_willis> I tend to use fdisk, or gparted.
[17:42] <wad> Every once in a while, all my applications lose the borders around their windows. Is this normal?
[17:42] <TimothyA> no, I don't know how to use it
[17:42] <escott> pragmaticenigma, most new installations don't have people removing gnome-session
[17:43] <wad> No more title bars, buttons, places to resize....
[17:43] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, i can't find any dpi setting in nvidia-settings
[17:43] <dr_willis> TimothyA,  and what are you trying to acomplish exactly?
[17:43] <pragmaticenigma> escott: He isn't running gnome
[17:43] <p896gbm>  wad: no, that's not normal. your window manager is crashing.
[17:43] <J11> how can i limit a2ps so that it tries to make  one page per png image?
[17:43] <TimothyA> dr_willis: trying to extend my 10GB partition to 100GB
[17:43] <TimothyA> either by creating a new partition, or resizing the existing one
[17:43] <wad> p896gbm, is there a log file somewhere I can check, to see why?
[17:43] <p896gbm> wad: there probably is. sorry, i'm useless for this one
[17:43] <wad> lol, me too.
[17:43] <dr_willis> TimothyA,  you will want to be doing such a task with a live cd. - You dont resize in use partitions.
[17:44] <p896gbm> wad: i don't even know what the window manager is on the latest ubuntu. i use kubuntu
[17:44] <dr_willis> TimothyA,  i suggest getting the gparted live cd.  its a must have for a PC tool box.
[17:44] <TimothyA> hence, creating a new partition...
[17:44] <TimothyA> I have no physical access to the server
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> beef-supreme: do you have the Openbox configuration tool installed?
[17:44] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, yea,
[17:44] <p896gbm> wad: try googling something like "ubuntu natty window manager crashing" or something (without quotes of course)
[17:44] <wad> ok
[17:45] <oCean> p896gbm: don't suggest google here, thanks
[17:45] <pragmaticenigma> There might be an option in there under the Desktop or Monitor settings (i'm going out on a limb since I don't use openbox)
[17:45] <dr_willis> TimothyA,  if the rest of the hd is 'unallocated' you could just make a new partition there , format it, and mount it to be used as needed
[17:45] <wad> Is there a way to run it again? Would that fix it?
[17:45] <TECHX> hello ubuntu
[17:45] <TimothyA> dr_willis: *how*
[17:45] <TimothyA> it just keeps telling me it's incorrect or not correct
[17:45] <dr_willis> fdisk to partition, or parted. and mkfs
[17:45] <TECHX> hey uhm i have a problemo with the ubuntu server i have set up
[17:46] <dr_willis> TimothyA,  what/where is this server comming from? they could be doing all sorts of weird things.
[17:46] <p896gbm> oCean: nobody else was helping him with his problem, at least i can give him good terms to search because i know what part of his desktop is crashing
[17:46] <TimothyA> dr_willis: vps
[17:46] <TimothyA> and I just increased the harddisk size
[17:46] <J11> so basically for every input file: fit to one page. I looked through a2ps options but couldnt find much, i see that it's being delegated to imagemagick
[17:47] <wad> oCean, he was helpful. :P
[17:47] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, i found xdpyinfo shows the dpi, i have 69*67, do you know how to raise that? maybe from the xorg file?
[17:47] <TECHX> so like basicaly iv been trying to setup a telnet to my server from my mac and i cant seem to get it to work and its not letting me install a GUI on the ubuntu box
[17:47] <wad> I did "metacity --replace" and that kinda brought it back. Lost all the compiz goodness.
[17:47] <dr_willis> TimothyA,  never used a vps. so you may want to ask  them/check their guides/docs on the proper qway to do it.
[17:47] <escott> wad, depends on what wm it is either compiz --replace or metacity --replace
[17:47] <dr_willis> TimothyA,  or just fire up 'fdisk' and create a new partition.
[17:48] <oCean> p896gbm: pointing to google searches is not helpful. And per channel's guidelines discouraged, so please don't do it again
[17:48] <p896gbm> oCean: ridiculous
[17:48] <p896gbm> the user i said that to even told you it helped him
[17:48] <escott> beef-supreme, its part of xrandr but i think you said you were using nvidia so thats out. either xorg.conf which you might have to create or nvidia-settings, maybe the xrandr that nvidia supports does dpi
[17:49] <oCean> p896gbm: that is not the point, we don't allow it here, since it is hardly every useful, even if it was in this case.
[17:49] <oCean> *ever
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> xrandr should be able to adjust the DPI
[17:49] <p896gbm> wad: if it lost your fancy effects it looks like compiz crashed. either compiz is buggy, or maybe you need a better driver. what graphics card do you have?
[17:50] <TECHX> hi?
[17:51] <komodowaran> hi @all
[17:51] <TECHX> hey komodo
[17:51] <bhoriss> s irc.telkom.net.id
[17:52] <TECHX> can anyone help me with my ubuntu server isues?
[17:52]  * pragmaticenigma is off to lunch...
[17:52] <oCean> pragmaticenigma: no need to announce away
[17:53] <TECHX> >_>
[17:53] <pragmaticenigma> oCean: announcing because I was trying to help someone and their problem isn't remedied yet
[17:53] <wad> Heh, sorry, I managed to completely hose myself on that one.
[17:53] <oCean> pragmaticenigma: understood, but please don't
[17:53] <TECHX> oh dear this room sould be about help not about seeing who can ass kiss and be the chatpolice oCean
[17:54] <erf> kim
[17:54] <erf> hejka wszystkim
[17:54] <oCean> TECHX: you got to lose that attitude
[17:54] <Thraspic> ...
[17:55] <wad> oCean, I just needed to know what was causing it. The google search he suggested showed immediately what the problem was, and how to solve it. Not sure why you think that suggesting a google search is "hardly ever helpful". I find that the main thing I go to IRC for is for someone to suggest a good google search for me to try, so I can get my info without bothering the cannel.
[17:55] <TECHX> o really? Cean? hows the shitty weather in london today?
[17:55] <J11> hmmm,  -1, -2, ..., -9   predefined font sizes and layouts for 1.. 9 virtuals .  Not sure what that means but that could mean it will try to fit 1 image  on 1 page
[17:55] <oCean> !guidelines | TECHX i suggest you take a read
[17:55] <TECHX> btw ocean im not going to take orders from you no offence
[17:55] <IdleOne> TECHX: oCean actually is a chan op and please keep the language clean
[17:56] <Thraspic> oCean is right, those people who simply refer to Google do the world more harm than good.  Especially idiotic on forums, which Google leads back to anyway.  Pet peeve of the millenia.
[17:56] <TECHX> can anyone here actualy help with the gui problem i have on the ubuntu server?
[17:56] <TECHX> or not?
[17:56] <edbian> ha
[17:56] <escott> J11, i think the imagemagick approach makes the most sense make a series of files each one a single page and then join them
[17:57] <J11> what does people understand under a 'virtual'?
[17:57] <oCean> wad: understood and thanks for the input. It does not change our point of view though.
[17:57] <TECHX> didnt think so
[17:58] <edbian> wad: What is the issue?
[17:58] <wad> I appreciate the efforts by you guys to keep this channel helpful. I'll be sure that the next time I ask for help with something, to add this parenthetical: "(please feel free to suggest a google search for me to try)"
[17:58] <edbian> Why would anyone volunteer to help such an agressive person
[17:58] <Thraspic> ...
[17:59] <Chotaz> when using ssh in linux is there anyway to specific the password in the connectiong command?
[17:59] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, xrandr isn't helping
[17:59] <escott> J11, where are you seeing this
[17:59] <J11> escott: in the man page of a2ps
[17:59] <wad> Chotaz, nope. Use a key.
[18:00] <wad> Chotaz, well, there *is* a way to do it, but trust me, you don't want to go down that road.
[18:00] <Chotaz> wad,  care to explain further please?
[18:00] <J11> escott: strange now i see: ... (png, delegated to ImageMagick): 2 pages on 2 sheets] in the output for a singe png
[18:00] <wad> Chotaz, sure. The best way to use ssh is to set up a public and private key.
[18:00] <wad> Chotaz, let me grap a document.
[18:00] <Chotaz> wad,  thank you
[18:01] <mne7> hello
[18:01] <escott> J11, i would just use imagemagicks convert in a bash for loop, and get yourself a set of files. if you need to join them into a single document there are many easy ways to join ps files
[18:01] <mne7> anyone know how xorg version come in xubuntu 11.04?
[18:01] <PhoenixSTF> Hey is anyone having issues with printi in 11.04 cutting off the top of the document?????
[18:01] <aguitel> anyone know how install this usb wireless device :Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1737:0077 Linksys  ?
[18:01] <edbian> mne7: HOW it works?
[18:01] <mne7> what xorg come with xubuntu 11.04?
[18:01] <escott> Chotaz, use ssh-keygen to make the key and then put your public key in the servers ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[18:02] <wad> Chotaz, there are lots of documents on how to do it. Look at the man page for ssh-keygen first.
[18:02] <mne7> edbian: i only need know what the version of xorg come in xubuntu 11.04
[18:02] <Chotaz> escott, wad , thanks a lot :
[18:02] <IdleOne> mne7: maybe ask in #xubuntu
[18:02] <mne7> IdleOne: ok, ty
[18:03] <escott> Chotaz, so its just ssh-keygen; scp .ssh/id_rsa.pub user@remote:/home/user/.ssh/my_pub_key; ssh user@remote (and cat the file to append to authorized_keys)
[18:03] <wad> Chotaz, once you start using keys, you'll never go back to passwords. :) The first thing I do when I get access to a computer is to stick my public key on it. From then on, I can get into it without having to remember a password. :)
[18:03] <mne7> IdleOne: the xubuntu have same version of ubuntu dude
[18:04] <wad> If someone managed to get a hold of my private key, and somehow (GOOD LUCK!!) cracked its passphrase, they would have access to a lot of machines!
[18:04] <oCean> escott: you can also use 'ssh-copy-id'
[18:04] <mne7> what version of xorg have ubuntu?
[18:04] <IdleOne> mne7: apt-cache policy xorg
[18:04] <IdleOne> that will give you the installed version
[18:04] <mne7> IdleOne: i don´t have ubuntu here dude
[18:05] <edbian> mne7: aptitude show xserver-xorg
[18:05] <mne7> IdleOne: i use arch linux, but i need know what xorg version have ubuntu for help a friend
[18:05] <oCean> mne7: in packages.ubuntu.com you can find package versions
[18:05] <IdleOne> oCean: can you run apt-cache policy xorg and report installed version to mne7 please
[18:05] <mne7> ok ok
[18:05] <mne7> ty
[18:06] <g117> hi! is there somebody who is able to help me a bit with PHP?
[18:06] <oCean> IdleOne: mne7 I have Installed: 1:7.6+4ubuntu3 for xorg (11.04)
[18:06] <idefix> what do you need to install on your PC to be able to play VOB-files?
[18:06] <IdleOne> oCean: thanks. forgot about packages.ubuntu.com
[18:06] <edbian> mne7: version: 1:7.6+4ubuntu3
[18:06] <edbian> darn
[18:07] <ziikutv> HI
[18:07] <mne7> thank you very much
[18:07] <edbian> sure
[18:07] <ziikutv> is there a way to extend my wubi/ubuntu installation?
[18:07] <cgroza> g117, you will have better luck on PHP channels.
[18:07] <edbian> ziikutv: 'extend' ?
[18:07] <tacomaster> i was wondering i am trying to encrypt a usb device and i came across a ubuntu site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage is 256 aes the strongest encryption that you can put on the device or is there something better you can use?
[18:07] <vec__> idefix: tried vlc?
[18:07] <davros> anyone know of a good ipod sync application?  i think banshee does it anything else?
[18:07] <vec__> totem should work too
[18:07] <ziikutv> extend partition size?
[18:07] <vec__> or mplayer
[18:08] <g117> cgroza, could you advise me some active?
[18:08] <IdleOne> ziikutv: I think 30G is the max with wubi
[18:08] <cgroza> g117: In a minute
[18:08] <dpkg-buildpackag> ziikutv: Yes, to use dd to revrite you're whole dsk, and using Ubuntu live CD, extend the partition as much as you can!
[18:08] <ziikutv> IdleOne: Yeah but during wubi install, i made it really small
[18:08] <g117> cgroza, okay, waiting, thanks
[18:08] <IdleOne> !wubi | ziikutv see if this link helps
[18:09] <IdleOne> ziikutv: specifically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[18:09] <ziikutv> !wubi | g117 testing
[18:09] <ziikutv> pj ppl
[18:09] <ziikutv> oh cool
[18:09] <pcpower> or just install VirtualBox/VMware/Parallels/QEMU
[18:10] <cgroza> g117: http://php.net/support.php
[18:10] <cgroza> g117: they have no official channel.
[18:10] <delapena> d
[18:10] <PowerPCdUdE> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a M68K Processor?
[18:11] <pcpower> lol no
[18:11] <g117> croza, doesn't matter, thanks anyway
[18:11] <pcpower> System 7, yes
[18:11] <pcpower> that's about it :)
[18:11] <ubuntu__> he
[18:11] <PowerPCdUdE> Workbench, and Debian work on M68K too
[18:11] <komodowaran> whats the prob techx
[18:11] <pcpower> PowerPCdUdE: http://www.linux-m68k.org/dists.html
[18:12] <HimPhoenix> hi, I have problems recongnizing a command of a programme which I have in multiple versions, because it always runs the oldest version of the program and I want to refer to newest one, how could I fix it? I think is about $PATH
[18:12] <pcpower> PowerPCdUdE: you might want to try NetBSD also
[18:12] <tntc> I'm getting sluggish performance in flash when using my intel video card. Is there a particular acceleration method or setting to fix this?
[18:12] <escott> HimPhoenix, put the path to the newest one first in $PATH
[18:12] <pcpower> with such slow HW
[18:12] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:12] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, escott i solved
[18:12] <beef-supreme> it's solved
[18:13] <HimPhoenix> escott, at the first place of the $PATH ?
[18:13] <escott> HimPhoenix, doesn't have to be first just has to be before the other
[18:13] <beef-supreme> pragmaticenigma, escott problem was solved by adding      Xft.dpi: 96.0 to the .Xresources file
[18:13] <beef-supreme> thanks for heading me in the right direction
[18:14] <idefix> vec__ thx
[18:14] <vooze> Anyone tried that Ubuntu server 11.04 could not find your harddrive?? I just tryed to install (currently running debian 6.0 with no problems) but ubuntu server 11.04 can only see my external harddrive, not the one "in the computer" any ideas?
[18:15] <oCean> vooze: just a tip, there's also a specific #ubuntu-server channel
[18:15] <aguitel> anyone know how install this usb wireless device :Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1737:0077 Linksys  ?
[18:15] <Chotaz> wad, you're right, this is awesome ^^
[18:15] <vooze> oCean: oh, did not know.. thanks
[18:16]  * wad grins
[18:16] <Xhetoric4l> Hey.
[18:17] <vec__> i have a question
[18:17] <ubuntu__> hi, how do I change keyboard setting in ubuntu from the comand line, to get a spanish keyboard?
[18:18] <vec__> is it safe to eat bolognese after two days in the bottom shelf of the frdge?
[18:18] <Raytek> brasileiros ON ??
[18:18] <jtiss546> hello again.
[18:18] <jtiss546> can anyone direct me to help on Apache2?
[18:18] <volkswagner> Greetings
[18:19] <Chotaz> What can be used in ubuntu to monitor an ftp server's folder and automatically download new files put into that folder?
[18:19] <volkswagner> jtiss546: just ask away if folks can help they will
[18:20] <jtiss546> my apache2 files don't seem to go where they should.
[18:21] <vec__> jtiss546: #ubuntu-server
[18:21] <jtiss546> yes
[18:21] <vec__> jtiss546: join that channel to ask about #ubuntu-server
[18:21] <jtiss546> ok, thanks.
[18:23] <ubuntu__> hi, does anyone know how I can change my keyboard locale?
[18:23] <vec__> from cli?
[18:23] <Chotaz> What can I use in Ubuntu to monitor a folder inside an FTP server and download any new files automatically?
[18:23] <ubuntu__> yes please
[18:23] <ubuntu__> I'm actually in a live cd... trying to fix a broken ubuntu
[18:23] <escott> Chotaz, if you can contact the admin of that server you could use rsync. otherwise you may have to roll your own
[18:23] <ubuntu__> after I turend on proprietary drivers, the display wont work
[18:24] <volkswagner> how can I show in logout menu "shutdown" and "Reboot" options running LXDE on Ubuntu 11.04?  Usually in Debian I add user to powerdev group, but this group does not even exist for 11.04
[18:24] <volkswagner> Update:  I have been able to get root user to get the shutdown, reboot options by installing policykit-1-gnome, but I'm still at a loss on how to get a normal user with sudo priv's to get the shutdown option
[18:24] <vec__> ubuntu__: ubuntu live-cd should let you choose the keyboardlayout at startup
[18:25] <delapena> why is ubuntu a better distro than fedora
[18:25] <RenaKunisaki> why is an apple better than an orange?
[18:25] <vec__> because its greener
[18:25] <vec__> :'D
[18:25] <BrightAmbition> idk ask apple
[18:25] <BrightAmbition> lol
[18:26] <vec__> only true for green apples thp
[18:26] <vec__> tho*
[18:26] <nothingspecial> ubuntulo1: ubuntu__: did you install from the restricted drivers thingy?
[18:26] <volkswagner> Fedora release cycle is to quick for my liking
[18:29] <morning> hi ya'all
[18:29] <tomreyn> tacomaster: AES256 is still pretty good, yes. And aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 is still a good enough choice for most, though XTS is is probably superior.
[18:29] <claudiomet> Greetings!, I have problems with some Gnome themes like Radiance, Ambiance and Equinox (with Faenza icons, I can't see Appilcations menu icons and the system works extremely (very extremely) slow, what can be (a corrupted library may be?) ?
[18:30] <rref> hi does someone know if there is a command to copy the whole content of a textfile directly in the clipboard ?
[18:30] <escott> rref, xclip
[18:30] <leftist> i reinstalled 10.10 again only 64bit this time.  the problem is i still get that amd unsupported hardwarre watermark.  i installed the ati drivers etc..but why is this notifying me with this ugly watermark?
[18:31] <escott> rref, do read the man page as there are actually two (or more clipboards) one for the middle click and another for ctrl-c ctrl-v
[18:31] <PhoenixSTF> Hey is anyone having issues with printing PDF in 11.04,  is cutting off the top of the document, any fix for this?
[18:32] <escott> leftist, where do you see this watermark
[18:32] <morning> have a question: I'm using ubuntu 10.04 on my dying laptop, so the only way I can use computer today, is launching a ubuntu LiveCD. I had to remove HDD, while it returns errors and stuff, although after ubuntu boots and everything looks normal my CPU still is like 97% in use, because it still is looking for a HDD. So my question is: can I kill a process to stop it searching for HDD? If yes, which one is it, what's the name of it?
[18:32] <leftist> on my lower right hand corner. did some research on it and it wasnt so clear.
[18:33] <escott> morning, use system-monitor to determine what process is using the cpu
[18:33] <jo-erlend> I don't even understand how to ask questions on askubuntu.com... I've been looking and looking. I really don't understand it. Does anyone here know?
[18:34] <leftist> ok escott
[18:34] <saju_m> rationalOgre Hi
[18:35] <nothingspecial> Anyone know how to force elinks to start at the top of the page?
[18:35] <Xhetoric4l> I have a small question about aesthetics, how can I change the desktop icon's highlight color/transparency?
[18:35] <morning> escott, I'm almost sure, that my problems are caused by missing HDD, I just don't wan't to kill something I shouldn't have...
[18:35] <leftist> escott to be honest i dont have any clue which process it could be. however let me do some more research on google about it.
[18:36] <escott> morning, figure out what process it is first
[18:37] <trism> jo-erlend: http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask
[18:37] <rref> @escott when i tried xclip in the terminal i got the error message "Error: Can't open display: (null)" is there another option?  i'm using ubuntu server
[18:37] <escott> leftist, im not sure i understand what this watermark is. is this a watermark in your display? if so the problem is with fglrx
[18:37] <leftist> ok
[18:37] <escott> rref, you have to do it from within an xterminal
[18:37] <Darkenvy> is there a log for screen?
[18:37] <Darkenvy> as in "screen -S name" kinda screen
[18:38] <Darkenvy> I missed an important crash message that Ic ant seem to get to now (AKA scroll upwards)
[18:38] <saju_m> I have to run #modprobe snd_hda_intel, to get sound after each boot, otherwise dont working
[18:38] <Darkenvy> this is vital and the longer I wait the further up the important info foes
[18:39] <Darkenvy> *goes
[18:39] <beefman> is it possible to set config_hz=1000 on the fly?
[18:39] <saju_m> also sound is too low
[18:39] <trism> Darkenvy: ctrl+a [ lets you go into copy mode, and you can scroll with hjkl keys (hit esc to get out)
[18:39] <escott> beefman, check /sys or /proc some kernels support dynamic ticks
[18:40] <beefman> escott: where in those directories?
[18:40] <trism> Darkenvy: ctrl+b may also work to go back pages once you are in copy mode
[18:40] <wombatman> what's everyones personally preferred newsgroup program?
[18:40] <morning> escott, it get's even funnier! Now I checked and it says processor usage 95%, but in process window, everything is yero in CPU section, exept for firefox and system monitor itselfe....
[18:41] <oCean> !poll | wombatman
[18:41] <omid_o> The middle button of my trackpoint (its middle button) dosnt work properly(scrooling ) on ubuntu while its ok when in windows /suse or Aptosid
[18:41] <Darkenvy> trism control+a does not
[18:41] <wombatman> well then maybe i should be even more specific
[18:41] <escott> morning, make sure you are showing all processes and not just yours
[18:41] <Darkenvy> control+a still keeps me in typing mode
[18:41] <trism> Darkenvy: no ctrl+a [ (hit ctrl+a, let go and hit [
[18:41] <wombatman> what is the featureset of the newsgroup program that you use
[18:41] <BrightAmbition> speaking of left
[18:42] <BrightAmbition> Is there a such thing as a left hande keyboard and mouse?
[18:42] <morning> escott,  I'm using live CD, so there are no other accounts or users.
[18:42] <trism> Darkenvy: in byobu it is also mapped to F7, but you only mentioned using screen
[18:42] <escott> morning, there is always a root user
[18:42] <delapena> is it possible to access other partitions on my hard drive from the unix shell
[18:43] <goldmar> Hello guys, I've got a problem that's driving me crazy for hours... I like to use nohup to run stuff and it usually works flawlessly. However, now I've written a Perl script and it does not work with nohup (but does without). Even more strange is that it produces output about every 5 seconds but if I start the perl script with perl ./myscript.pl > output.txt the output file stays empty (and the script does not seem to work)... any ideas what cou
[18:43] <goldmar> be the problem?
[18:43] <Darkenvy> this mode sucks
[18:43] <hondje> delapena, yes if theyŕe mounted
[18:43] <Darkenvy> I cant figues this crap out :S
[18:43] <delapena> hondje: how do i mount them from the terminal
[18:43] <bl4ckcomb`> delapena, man mount
[18:43] <morning> escott, so sudo su and code "top" would do the job?
[18:44] <escott> morning, not just find the menu and select show all processes
[18:44] <trism> Darkenvy: sorry, it is the only way I know how to scroll around in screen, someone else may have another option
[18:46] <claudiomet> Greetings!, I have problems with some Gnome themes like Shiki,Radiance,Ambiance,Equinox. I can't see Appilcations menu icons and the system works very extremely slow, what can be?
[18:46] <doomrobo> Is gnome 2 faster than unity?
[18:46] <omid_o> so nobudy here uses a thinkpad ?
[18:46] <bl4ckcomb`> doomrobo, define 'faster'
[18:46] <rahul_> I want some themes for ubuntu 11.04
[18:46] <rahul_> from where can I get some?
[18:46] <doomrobo> Performance
[18:46] <bl4ckcomb`> doomrobo, define 'performance'
[18:46] <saju_m> in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf i added    'alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel '  and 'options snd-hda-intel model=auto' , affter this 'snd_hda_intel' not auto loading
[18:47] <doomrobo> Benchmark times
[18:47] <trism> Darkenvy: hmm, the arrow keys seem to work in copy mode too (at least in byobu)
[18:47] <bl4ckcomb`> doomrobo, for what operations?
[18:47] <CaveMan> hello
[18:47] <saju_m> so i have to run 'modprobe snd_hda_intel' after each boot
[18:47] <doomrobo> Are there benchmarks on a lot of operations?
[18:48] <dr_willis> theres Benchmark suites out for linux
[18:48] <bl4ckcomb`> I have no idea, doomrobo, you can tias, since you can choose both before logging in
[18:48] <PhoenixSTF> Having issues on printing PDF in 11.04, it  is cutting off the top of the document, any fix for this?
[18:49] <doomrobo> Sounds good
[18:49] <CaveMan> Hello, can anyone help me with a setting up vnc on multiple machines to work and be reachable behind a router....
[18:49] <saju_m> then i removed that lines from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, but 'snd_hda_intel' dont loading
[18:49] <dr_willis> CaveMan,  you would need to ssh tunle them for vnc to be secure.
[18:49] <dr_willis> CaveMan,  freenx may be a better alternative.
[18:49] <cyroul> hi
[18:50] <dr_willis> !vnc
[18:50] <saju_m> How to make 'snd_hda_intel' auto loading on each boot
[18:50] <dr_willis> !modules
[18:50] <cyroul> check out teamviewer for remote desktop very easy to use and very handy
[18:50] <CaveMan> dr_willis:ok.... my intension was to tunnel the traffic through ssh and port forward router side.... failing that I'm here
[18:50] <morning> escott, I ran "sudo ps ux" and it showed me all root processes, but all are 0% usage.....
[18:50] <dr_willis> saju_m,  theres some module autoload file. or make it load from /etc/rc.local
[18:50] <beefman> for quake wars in linux, i'm supposed to set config_hz=1000.  is it necessary to compile a custom kernel or can i change it dynamically?
[18:51] <escott> morning, you dont need to sudo to see those processes
[18:51] <rref> @escott is there a tool that does not depend on the xterminal?
[18:51] <escott> rref, the $DISPLAY variable must be set andthe appropriate permissions for xauthority for anything to be sent to the x session
[18:52] <cyroul> with ubuntu 11.04 and the new kernel 2.638, i ve got a blackscreen after booting, i can fix it using setpci but I'd like to find an option in grub, does anyone have an idea ? please
[18:52] <lake> I have an Asus U52F and my headphone jack just does not work. Any way that I can fix that??
[18:52] <morning> escott, ok, but anyway, they are all zero, and still my CPU goes 95% all the time! Any idea?
[18:53] <saju_m> ok i addded  'modprobe snd_hda_intel' in '/etc/rc.local'
[18:53] <SnowmanX11> Is there anybody who uses DynDns to access computer behind the router?
[18:54] <SnowmanX11> with ddclient
[18:54] <morning> escott, firefox consums 75%
[18:55] <cyroul> saju_m: i ll give a try thx
[18:56] <cyroul> you can use no-ip.org
[18:56] <ComputerGuy_> Hello
[18:56] <volkswagner> SnowmanX11: I have used in in the past
[18:56] <ComputerGuy_> Can someone help me?
[18:57] <ComputerGuy_> I'm dualbooting Ubuntu 11.04 with Windows 7 and I tried to boot into Ubuntu, but I got a black screen with the <grub> command line
[18:57] <avis> 2:13 communiation breakdown
[18:57] <cyroul> that's the new kernel issue !!!!
[18:58] <avis> likeness.  natty.  kewl
[18:58] <rahul_> I want some themes for Ubuntu 11.04 from where should I get them?
[18:58] <cyroul> gnome art
[18:59] <dashokado> how do i know which user a certain process is running?
[18:59] <lake> dashokado: ps aux
[18:59] <lake> ps aux | grep ur-process
[19:00] <dashokado> lake: alrite cool.... so who owns the .pid is not relevant??
[19:00] <rhin0> got a really strange problem -- inspiron m5010 dell laptop broadcom MCM4313 wireless inside it ... install any ubuntu (tried x,l,ubuntu) this is 64 bit -- OS Installs fine works fine -- the minute it connects to broadband -- the system crashes - black screen of death pid 0 swap etc -- system connects using a separate usb wireless dongle -- what is it?  the wireless 'bios' is corrupted? i've been virused -- this came from british t
[19:00] <cgroza> Hello, I want to set up y own IRC server. I have install ircd-hybrid and then follwed the instructions, but the port 6667 is blocked and I can't connect to my local server. Anyone knows the solution?
[19:00] <thingfish> I tried installing 11.04 but it didn't like my vidcard (ATI 6950).  Has support for this card been made available yet, or do I have to use ATI's binary driver?
[19:00] <dashokado> lake: background story, i just installed and started  nginx and when i did ls -lha /var/run/nginx.pid, it showed that it was owned by root
[19:01] <saju_m> i red some article about increase volume in ubuntu, based on that i added 'options snd-hda-intel model=auto' in '/etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf'm but that not working
[19:01] <rhin0> unblock the port using ufw enable port
[19:01] <rhin0> sudo ufw enable from ipaddress to portno
[19:01] <saju_m> i am using dell inspiron n5010
[19:01] <rhin0> cgroza
[19:01] <rhin0> if you're using ufw
[19:01] <cgroza> rhin0, do I need to reboot after?
[19:01] <lake> dashokado: i'm not really sure, sorry
[19:02] <dashokado> lake: np, thanks anyways
[19:02] <rhin0> no - ufw rules take effect rightaway -- type sudo ufw status to see your rules
[19:02] <rhin0> it links ports to an ip address cgroza or you can enable all ports for an ip address just to test it
[19:03] <morning> hey all, so again I have damaged laptop, but now CPU in usage is 95% all the time and in processes only friefox "eats" 75%, is that normal?
[19:03] <rhin0> ie it will enable/disable a port for a specifi ip address
[19:03] <grubnwb> Hello?
[19:03] <lake> grubnwb: hey
[19:03] <saju_m> here us tha article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=373287  (Very low volume sound)
[19:04] <cgroza> rhin0, it says the firewall is on and launced at system start.
[19:04] <grubnwb> My ubuntu live cd took me to something called "busy box" and now the screen is just black
[19:04] <rhin0> but it'll be blocking port 6667 if it doesn't say its enabled its blocked
[19:04] <cgroza> rhin0, I try connecting with ssh and it sill says access denied.
[19:04] <SnowmanX11> volkswagner: can you help me a little bit?
[19:05] <grubnwb> My ubuntu live cd took me to something called "busy box" and now the screen is just black
[19:05] <rhin0> you need to configure your firewall to enable the port for an ip address
[19:06] <cgroza> rhin0: how?
[19:06] <morning> hey all, so again I have damaged laptop, but now CPU in usage is 95% all the time and in processes only friefox "eats" 75%, is that normal?
[19:06] <rhin0> you need to learn about ufw how to configure it cgroza
[19:06] <morning> I don't know how bad is this, buy I removed HDD from it.
[19:06] <saju_m> i also tried 'options snd-hda-intel model=dell-inspiron-n5010' for increase volume
[19:06] <grubnwb> Anyone? you need to configure your firewall to enable the port for an ip address
[19:07] <cgroza> rhin0: there isnt a command I could run, I need port 6667 for my local network.
[19:07] <dashokado> how do i check to see if a service will start at system start up?
[19:07] <grubnwb> Sorry I ment: My ubuntu live cd took me to something called "busy box" and now the screen is just black
[19:07] <ray24> Hi  i need help with banshee. I'm having problem syncing my songs to my ipod. I am stuck on "banshee is preparing to synchronize" but it doesn't do anything.
[19:08] <escott> grubnwb, what is the output of "mount"
[19:08] <grubnwb> Input/output error can not mount /dev/loop0
[19:08] <rhin0> cgroza I am not an expert on ufw just a normal user -- as far as I can tell if you if a port is blocked it is a firewall problem
[19:09] <rhin0> ufw is very easy to configure -- play around with it
[19:09] <rhin0> learn about it -- no totally simplistic solutions -- if you are configuring an irc server you must know about such things
[19:10] <grubnwb> escott: Input/output error can not mount /dev/loop0
[19:12] <escott> grubnwb, thats pretty messed up... the busybox shell means that the kernel couldnt open the harddrive
[19:12] <escott> grubnwb, but the fact that your busybox shell is having trouble with its own internal loop mount is bad
[19:12] <kaysindre> Can lighting and power outage mess with ubuntu, so I cant see my eth0 connection?
[19:12] <grubnwb> Which harddrive?
[19:12] <escott> grubnwb, the hard drive with / on it
[19:13] <grubnwb> How can I fix it?
[19:13] <escott> grubnwb, is the hard drive functional?
[19:13] <grubnwb> Yes
[19:13] <totle> I'm installing a custom kernel and noticing that nvidia-current is failing during installation. Is this something expected?
[19:14] <escott> grubnwb, and you have checked the smart status of it?
[19:14] <go8765432> how i can desable autojoin in xchat for my favorites rooms?
[19:14] <escott> grubnwb, i would boot a livecd and chroot yourself. reinstall the kernel, reinstall grub
[19:14] <Led_Zeppelin> running 11.04 with dual screen setup. It seems when I try to use the default settings; after I login the screen just freezes. But with Ubuntu Safe mode everything is ok.
[19:14] <daddy> i have brother MFC-295CN, when i installed the driver and test the printer it prints out only the blank pages... How can i fix this?
[19:14] <Led_Zeppelin> using nvdia as my graphics card
[19:14] <grubnwb> I'm trying to get into the live cd
[19:15] <rhin01> grubnwb you may have the problem that on 11.04 livecd is not the 'classic' ubuntu view
[19:15] <rhin01> I had that last night -- couldn't use it
[19:15] <grubnwb> I unplugged the harrdive (it's external) I'm trying again
[19:15] <rhin01> couldn't get live cd to boot into 'classic view'
[19:15] <lake> Anyone with an Asus laptop w/ working headphones?
[19:16] <oCean> go8765432: I'm not sure, but I think it always autojoins the channels mentioned in favorites
[19:16] <JokesOnYou77> hi all
[19:17] <daddy> i guess not too many ppl owns MFC-295CN
[19:18] <grubnwb> I get the same error. Does this mean there is something wrong with my internal because that's where I run windows 7 frk
[19:18] <grubnwb> *from
[19:19] <myrmidette> Can anyone tell me why I can't log in to any of my other ttys?
[19:19] <JokesOnYou77> I know this isn't #android but does anyone here know of an android app that will let me use my phone as a multitouch trackpad?
[19:19] <grubnwb> I can boot into a live cd on 9.10
[19:19] <myrmidette> I have ubuntu 10.04 and a fully working Xorg on tty7
[19:22] <oCean> myrmidette: are getty processes running?
[19:22] <grubnwb> how do I get into classic ubuntu from busy box in a live cd
[19:23] <myrmidette> oCean, no
[19:23] <myrmidette> how do I start it?
[19:23] <oCean> myrmidette: try service tty1 start
[19:23] <oCean> +sudo
[19:24] <escott> grubnwb, ubuntu is on the external, but the bootloader is on the internal
[19:24] <myrmidette> it's working, thank oCean
[19:24] <grubnwb> how do I get into classic ubuntu from busy box in a live cd
[19:24] <escott> grubnwb, you fix the problem and reboot :)
[19:24] <oCean> myrmidette: sure, I just don't understand, I assume they should be running by default
[19:24] <myrmidette> how can I make them start by default?
[19:25] <barak_> Hello
[19:25] <grubnwb> ? Ubuntu is not on my system yet. I can't get into the live cd
[19:25] <escott> grubnwb, can you review how you did your install with what where
[19:25] <bobo123> i tried to add a user as a root in the /etc/group file, but the user is not root, i do something like root:x:0:USER_NAME
[19:26] <AJ4X> Hi, can anyone help me with writing a script to launch 2 programs?
[19:26] <escott> bobo123, usermod
[19:26] <bobo123> escott, what is usermod?
[19:26] <grubnwb> I don't have an install of ubuntu only windows 7 on my internal harddrive
[19:26] <oCean> myrmidette: good question, I'm really not used to the new upstart system :(
[19:26] <escott> bobo123, man usermod dont edit /etc/group /etc/passwd by hand
[19:26] <bobo123> escott, but is it possible to be done by hand?
[19:28] <barak_> Can anyone teach me how to install gtk3 themes (10.10)?
[19:28] <myrmidette> alright I only need them occasionally and when I do I can just start them manually. cheers and thank you oCean :)
[19:28] <escott> grubnwb, if you are responding to me please use my name
[19:29] <grubnwb> escott: I was
[19:29] <escott> grubnwb, so as i understand what you tried to do... you put grub on the mbr of the internal drive, and tried to get it to reference an external usb drive as the root-directory. im not sure that is supported
[19:29] <Raccoon> nice.
[19:30] <escott> grubnwb, the safest configuration for you is to change your boot order so that the external is in the boot order prior to the internal, and put grub in the mbr of the external
[19:30] <nibbl> hi. i'm installing ubuntu on some usb stick. first i put partition 3 (primary) with 4GB fat32, it had a blkid. then i changed my mind, removed the partition, made a 500MB /home (type 83, used for luks/dm-crypt) - but sda3 was still shown with the fat32 uuid and type vfat. so i dd'ed some zeroes to sda3, and now i wont get a blkid anymore. i recreated the partition and i tried using cryptsetup luksformat..... any hints?
[19:30] <grubnwb> Escott: I'm confused. I'm trying to get into the live disk. I have said nothing about grub.
[19:30] <Raccoon> #bitcoin-otc is just 451 users away from becoming the largest channel on freenode, moving #ubuntu into 2nd :)
[19:31] <klown> and how is that information of any help, to anyone.
[19:31] <escott> grubnwb, ok so you are booting the livecd? and what is happening
[19:31] <Raccoon> klown: friendly rivalry
[19:32] <nibbl> Raccoon, bitcoin split their bootstrapping channels as they hit the limit i hear?
[19:32] <grubnwb> Escort: I'm in busy box and it says it has failed to mount /dev/loop0
[19:32] <Raccoon> nibbl: bitcoin doesn't use bootstrapping channels anymore, afiak
[19:32] <brady> I want a command-line tool which I can use to remove the first 30 seconds from an MP3. LAME doesn't seem to have it.
[19:33] <escott> grubnwb, you are in busybox on the livecd boot? and you are certain it was the livecd that booted. have you checked the livecd media? was it burned correctly
[19:33] <escott> brady, mencoder certainly can but thats a bit overkill
[19:33] <tensorpudding> brady: sox might do it
[19:34] <nibbl> Raccoon, thought they split up in many (fooo_00-99)
[19:34] <Raccoon> nibbl: on this network?
[19:34] <nibbl> thought so. not sure, nvm
[19:34] <Raccoon> i don't think the bitcoin client utilizes freenode
[19:34] <Raccoon> used to ages ago
[19:35] <escott> !ot | Raccoon nibbl
[19:35] <nikolam> Just to say I HATE when updating Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64bit, kills my productivity and applications response time and jitters sound and turns my computer to a pig, just because someone was lazy to nice update processes by default
[19:35] <grubnwb> Escort: I bites it correctly and at a slow speed too. I am sure it is the live cd . And yes I am in busy box on live cd. I was bootin from the cd the live cd then it brought me to the wired busy box error.
[19:35] <grubnwb> *burned it correctly
[19:36] <brady> escott, tensorpudding mp3splt looks like it might work. Trying.
[19:37] <escott> grubnwb, that error message very much sounds like a bad burn, either that or failing cd drive, or possibly some other issue with the cd drive
[19:38] <grubnwb> Should I try a different disk?
[19:38] <escott> grubnwb, either try a different disk or try the usb installer method
[19:38] <grubnwb> Ok
[19:38] <escott> grubnwb, have you gotten that disk to work before?
[19:38] <ray24> Hi  i need help with banshee. I'm having problem syncing my songs to my ipod. I am stuck on "banshee is preparing to synchronize" but it doesn't do anything.
[19:39] <p896gbm> hi folks, is there a channel that discusses c programming?
[19:40] <OerHeks> !C++
[19:40] <grubnwb> Does 32 bit ubuntu run faster on a 64 bit machine?
[19:40] <tensorpudding> no
[19:40] <tensorpudding> i mean, comparing apples to apples
[19:40] <Gskellig> well
[19:41] <Gskellig> a 64bit machine would indicate that the cpu is better than a 32bit machine
[19:41] <tensorpudding> most 64-bit machines nowadays are more powerful than 32-bit machines irrespective of register width
[19:41] <Gskellig> its comparing a nice juicy crisp apple to a shittier, bruised apple
[19:41] <Gskellig> yeah
[19:41] <Gskellig> tensorpudding said it well
[19:41] <ubuntuguy> How do I get angry birds to work on wine?
[19:41] <Gskellig> how do i get angry birds to work on windows??
[19:41] <Gskellig> ubuntuguy, try playonlinux i heard its good
[19:42] <ubuntuguy> Does it have angry birds?
[19:42] <vec__> no
[19:42] <praxgen> wine can handle angry birds
[19:42] <tensorpudding> the only place that 32-bit processors intermingle is probably at the low-end
[19:42] <tensorpudding> at the desktop midrange there really aren't any 32-bit processors left
[19:43] <vec__> there are no 64 bit processors below midrange
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | ubuntuguy
[19:43] <vec__> isnt angry birds available as a chrome experiment or sum such
[19:43] <Seoester> usr chromium and go to http://chrome.angrybirds.com
[19:44] <vec__> when i see screenshots of chromium, theres always a pic of angry birds opened in the browser
[19:44] <Seoester> use*
[19:44] <vec__> yes
[19:44] <vec__> thx Seoester
[19:44] <OerHeks> vec__, a celeronD 521 3 ghrz is a below midrange 64 bit cpu
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> vec__: There's a P4 running at 3.8Ghz, not exactly midrange...
[19:46] <tensorpudding> celeron D 521? that's pretty old
[19:46] <yan_> Hello, I've tried googling for this to no avail. Basically, after trying to upgrade 10.04 to 11.04 in a VM, the system locked during the tail end of the installation process. Now, it won't even boot into single user mode, kernel panic'ing on being unable to mount /dev/sda1. The drive image mounts just fine when using a live cd. Can anyone recommend next steps?
[19:47] <PhoenixSTF> Printing issue in 11.04, when printing pdf or doc, the top of the document gets cut of, help pls :)
[19:47] <vec__> PhoenixSTF: did you play with the printer settings
[19:47] <escott> PhoenixSTF, check that your set to letter and not a4 paper
[19:47] <vec__> like margin width
[19:48] <lnxusr221> Hi!  I put my mp3 player in my USB but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it.  Last ubuntu I had it worked fine, recognizing it as a USB stick basically...
[19:48] <PhoenixSTF> vec__, yes, everything you can imagine, if i print from mozzila all is ok, but from PDF and DOC, top gets cut off, this only hapens in 11.04
[19:48] <lnxusr221> anyone can help on how I can get the drive to show up?  in /var/log/mesages I see it says "new high speed usb device using ehci hcd and address 17"
[19:48] <lnxusr221> But it never opens up the folder or shows me any of the files
[19:49] <PhoenixSTF> escott, yes i did, its problably a bug or just a problem glich but any workaround would be nice
[19:49] <meway> Why in mozilla on ubuntu does it keep asking me to save my password even though I said never save this password?
[19:49] <skegeek> Has anyone used EHCP? I installed it and it took over my domains with a default page and even after I turned it off the default page is still shown.
[19:51] <blip99> hi, is it normal to get errors when doing an apt-get update ?    I just used a sample sources.list from ubuntuguide.org and got 2 fails, one of them was:
[19:51] <blip99> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/mnatty-security/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[19:51] <smw> meway, because "never save my password" is really "never for this site"
[19:52] <vec__> blip99: which version of ubuntu?
[19:52] <blip99> vec__: the latest, natty
[19:52] <grzywacz> hi
[19:52] <vec__> the sample source.list is probably outdated
[19:53] <vec__> why would u use this one?
[19:53] <vec__> blip99: ^
[19:53] <blip99> vec__: I keep having problems with sources no matter what I do, I copied some from the web, I used software-properties-gtk to select a mirror
[19:53] <blip99> all seem to have faluires
[19:53] <blip99> failures
[19:53] <OerHeks> natty, not mnatty
[19:54] <blip99> vec__: I just ran an apt-cache search and got "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/linux.dropbox.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[19:54] <blip99> "
[19:54] <blip99> I checked sources.list... it only has 1 dropbox entry....
[19:54] <BluesKaj> blip99, open your package manager and enable all the repositories lie canonical parthers and other software sources
[19:54] <skegeek> Wow, the creator of EHCP sure don't make it easy to remove.
[19:54] <blip99> I don't get this, did Apt change the way it works ? where else could a source be saved
[19:55] <blip99> BluesKaj: should i delete sources.list first to be sure I don't have multiple sources ?
[19:55] <trism> blip99: dropbox will be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ in some file with dropbox in its name
[19:56] <trism> blip99: it gets added automatically when you install the package
[19:56] <BluesKaj> blip99, no , it will be overwritten by your choices in the package manager
[19:56] <Led_Zeppelin> running 11.04 with dual screen setup. It seems when I try to use the default settings; after I login the screen just freezes. But with Ubuntu Safe mode everything is ok.
[19:56] <vec__> Led_Zeppelin: nvidia?
[19:57] <dustin_> ubuntu 11.04 ATI dual screen issue, is there a way to define my ACTUAL monitor as screen 1 with my 32 inch TV as screen 2 in 1080(hdmi) and is there a known issue with the mouse "looking funny" on screen 2 as well as the inability to type on screen 2?
[19:57] <Doonz> can anyone recoomend a idiots guide to setting up an open vpn server and client
[19:57] <Led_Zeppelin> vec__, yes.
[19:57] <Led_Zeppelin> vec__, I preassume you have the same problem ?
[19:57] <vec__> have you installed the propriatary drivers?
[19:57] <vec__> no
[19:57] <grubnwb> How to you clear the mbr within ubuntu?
[19:57] <vec__> i have a working twin view setup
[19:58] <MohammadAG> Does anyone know which package the "Workspace switcher" gnome 2.x plugin is in?
[19:58] <vec__> grubnwb: with dd
[19:58] <Led_Zeppelin> vec__, yes. I am running it now. The dual screen works perfectly fine. But I am in 'ubuntu safe mode'. When  I try to use the regular ubuntu login, I get my right screen active with huge fonts. And I get a mouse action but I can't click or do anything.
[19:58] <JokesOnYou77> I have a (really) old Dell I'm running Natty on and it keeps disconecting from the wifi.  I think it's turning off it's usb hubs for power saving or something, can I turn that off?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> Led_Zeppelin, what graphics card?
[19:59] <grubnwb> How do you clear the mbr in ubuntu? I want to clear it because it is all junked up with grub installs
[19:59] <Led_Zeppelin> BluesKaj, its an Nvidia, GeForcGeForce 7300 LE
[20:00] <grubnwb> Anyone? How do you clear the mbr in ubuntu? I want to clear it because it is all junked up with grub installs
[20:00] <BluesKaj> Led_Zeppelin, did you set up dual scrns in the nvidia gui ?
[20:00] <vec__> grubnwb: im at it
[20:00] <Led_Zeppelin> BluesKaj, yes
[20:00] <vec__> read it in a ubuntu howto
[20:01] <th0r> grubnwb: you are aware that if you 'clear' the mbr the system will no longer boot?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> using the recommended driver ? Led_Zeppelin , I have to ask
[20:01] <vec__> grubnwb: dd if=/media/sda/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1
[20:01] <vec__> from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot
[20:02] <rjonesx> how do I change the directory that you get dropped into when you login via ssh (ie: instead of /home/user, I want to land in /var/www/html
[20:02] <blip99> BluesKaj: ok I'm testing it again now with package manager, should i enable src too ?
[20:02] <Led_Zeppelin> BluesKaj, not sure what the recommended one is. How do I find out?
[20:02] <blip99> I don't want source code, or maybe some tools need it to compile itself ?
[20:02] <Led_Zeppelin> sudo /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[20:02] <Led_Zeppelin> nvidia-current                        270.41.06-0ubuntu1   using this version. seems like I may need to downgrade
[20:03] <BluesKaj> Led_Zeppelin, system>admin>additional drivers
[20:03] <dustin_> is dual screen the new major glitch in ubuntu 11.04 and is it only in 64 bit or in both?
[20:03] <vec__> grubnwb: wait that was bollocks
[20:03] <Guest59149> does anyone know how to get a gparted live cd to not give no screen found errors?
[20:03] <vec__> but it should gove you the idea
[20:03] <vec__> that one was to back up the mbr
[20:03] <BluesKaj> blip99, not the src
[20:04] <Led_Zeppelin> BluesKaj, using 'recommended'
[20:04] <Led_Zeppelin> BluesKaj, let me downgrade and see what happens
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Led_Zeppelin, it'will probly crash
[20:05] <vec__> grubnwb: the correct command would be ''dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1
[20:05] <vec__> i think
[20:05] <Led_Zeppelin> BluesKaj, reading this, http://paulscomputernotes.blogspot.com/2011/06/unity-3d-with-nvidia-geforce-7300-le.html and seems like thats what he did
[20:05] <Led_Zeppelin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37629/geforce-go-7300-7400-blacklisted-can-i-still-run-unity/38728#38728 here is the right anwer
[20:06] <MohammadAG> I'm missing most of my gnome-applets with Ubuntu 11.04, keep getting The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet" and similar for other applets
[20:06] <BluesKaj> ok Led_Zeppelin , I'm using a 7600gt on my other box without probs but just a single scrn
[20:06] <thiebaude> Led_Zeppelin, im using nvidia also had to switch back to gnome classic no effects
[20:06] <Led_Zeppelin> let me give it a try and let you know
[20:07] <thiebaude> 8400 gs
[20:07] <Led_Zeppelin> thiebaude, ah yes. thats what  am doing. It works
[20:07] <Led_Zeppelin> thiebaude, http://askubuntu.com/questions/37629/geforce-go-7300-7400-blacklisted-can-i-still-run-unity/38728#38728 probaly applies to you too
[20:07] <thiebaude> firefox in unity for me is not usalble
[20:07] <thiebaude> usable
[20:07] <BluesKaj> thiebaude, same here but single output to panasonic tv
[20:07] <thiebaude> thanks Led_Zeppelin  i'll check that out
[20:08] <thiebaude> im dissapointed alot
[20:08]  * BluesKaj is happy with KDE
[20:09] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, maybe i need to try that out
[20:09] <dustin_> has anyone here had a good experiance with dual screens since 10.10?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> even got xbmc running on 11.10 , kde 4.6.3
[20:10] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, i have not started my testing yet
[20:10] <thiebaude> 11.10
[20:10] <BluesKaj> thiebaude, we've had quite a few ppl exploring kde since unity appeared
[20:11] <dustin_> BluesKaj, up till 11.04 came out I had a beutiful Knome setup and loved it
[20:11] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, im going to burn a cd and try it as my standalone os
[20:11] <thiebaude> have not used kde in years
[20:12] <Led_Zeppelin> didn't work
[20:12] <Led_Zeppelin> crap
[20:12] <thiebaude> ok guys bbl got to do some downloading :)
[20:13] <BluesKaj> thiebaude, i tried a complete ubuntu install and I'm afraid Unity didn't do much for me or my needs , but after all a desktop is a matter of taste if all functions are ok
[20:13] <blip99> BluesKaj: one of them is still failing, but it doesn't show up under hte Kubuntu Software tab (KPackageKit), but rather under "Other Software".  I think it got added as an external thing, maybe it's not needed.    http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  mnatty-security main restricted
[20:13] <blip99> looks like a type too.. 'mnatty'
[20:13] <bezao> i'm gettin 'falied to bring up eth0', ifconfig -a shows eth1, but with no ip, how can i correct this?
[20:13] <thiebaude> soo true
[20:13] <thiebaude> BluesKaj,
[20:13] <BluesKaj> blip99, or an old ppa that was disabled during your upgrade
[20:14] <ksbalaji_> Hi! Suddenly I am not able to use mouse to draw in GIMP. Inadvertently some settings changed?
[20:15] <BluesKaj> bezao, eth0=dhcp , the run ifconfig
[20:17] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, should i download a cd or dvd
[20:17] <dustin_> does anybody have a fix for dual screens witth ATI in 11.04 or do I need to switch back to version 10.10 to make things work again?
[20:18] <ksbalaji_> please suggest a channel for GIMP help anyone?
[20:19] <MagicJ> I have installed 10.4 from a memory stick that I know is good since I have done other installations - if I run this machine from the stick it works well - install appears to work and if I look at the disk all looks right - but it won't boot - almost as though the boot record did not get written - any ideas?
[20:19] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, on the kubuntu site it gives me a choice of dvd or cd
[20:19] <BlouBlou> thiebaude: choose cd
[20:19] <thiebaude> ok thanks cool
[20:19] <dustin_> ksbalaji_, #gimp
[20:19] <KimLaroux> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal,2943-13.html "Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat gets over two hours more battery life than Natty Narwhal" Is this proven and common to every systems?
[20:19] <thiebaude> it has the codecs?
[20:19] <IdleOne> ksbalaji_: irc.gimp.org #gimp
[20:20] <ksbalaji_> dustin_, thanks.
[20:21] <K1ng> how do i write 192.168.2.1/192.168.2.255 like 192.168.2.1/24
[20:23] <iceroot> K1ng: 192.168.2.0/24
[20:23] <K1ng> iceroot, thanks
[20:24] <K1ng> iceroot, i dont want to use 192.168.2.1
[20:25] <iceroot> K1ng: ?
[20:25] <K1ng> nvm
[20:25] <Short1> good morning
[20:26] <Short1> wondering if anybody can assist - trying to install via Target Disk Mode to a PPC G4 which will not boot from usb/fw, and has no CD drive
[20:27] <ray24> Hi  i need help with banshee. I'm having problem syncing my songs to my ipod. I am stuck on "banshee is preparing to synchronize" but it doesn't do anything.
[20:28] <Plugh> With the move to LibreOffice in Ubuntu 11.04, is it right for both OO and LO installed as that is what I see in package manager?
[20:28] <Plugh> for both OO and LO to show as installed
[20:29] <nibbl> how to remove all desktop stuff from ubuntu? xorg, sofwares etc?
[20:29] <Dmole> ray24: did you look in ~/.config/banshee-1/log or whereever?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Short1: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[20:29] <ray24> Dmole, not sure what I could do with log
[20:29] <ray24> Dmole, I've even removed banshee and reinstall and deleted it's folder from .config
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> nibbl: remove xorg and it should remove the rest
[20:30] <Dmole> ray24: it would tell you or whoever you are talking to what went wrong.
[20:30] <alket> Hi, Im using Lucid Lynx, I installed Liferea reader and now the system is promptin for "Broken Package" all the time
[20:30] <Short1> ActionParsnip: i did not, but it is the Ubuntu_PowerPC_maverick from ubuntu.com
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Short1: doesn't matter where it's from. It can still be mangled in transit
[20:31] <ray24> Dmole, I'm looking at the log, not sure what information is relevant
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Short1: test the ISO so you know it's complete and consistent
[20:31] <Short1> ActionParsnip: ahh okay
[20:31] <JohnSS_> Should I use the proprietary driver provided by my video card manufacturer for Linux or just use the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[20:31] <Dmole> ray24: empty the log then recreate the problem then pastebin the log
[20:32] <Short1> ActionParsnip: would that affect the ability of the PPC to read it from USB and/or booting from USB?
[20:32] <ray24> Dmole, so delete the log, save, then sync again?
[20:32] <cradam> i hate GPRS
[20:33] <ray24> Dmole,  gotcha
[20:33] <nibbl> ActionParsnip, sadly it does not. xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core do not have this effect :/
[20:33] <Dmole> JohnSS_: normaly but you might want to test various things like x264+compiz and see which one works best or with lowest CPU usage
[20:34] <sudeep> I need to know what process is going on behind  when a program is executed. Is there any command for it?
[20:35] <Dmole> sudeep: top
[20:35] <Plugh> bbl
[20:37] <Dmole> Short1: do PowerPCs boot from USB at all? I thought you needed a boot CD or the 3rd party firmware?
[20:37] <sudeep> Dmole I guess top gives you all the tasks running. For example when you run firefox, can you able to know what all process is it executing?
[20:38] <Short1> Dmole: did some research and it seems that some late model PPCs will boot from USB, but I also tried to boot via firewire, which should be supported.  I get a blue screen with a refresh arrow on the left and a left-pointing arrow on the right.  Clicking either gives no results
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> nibbl: just hault out libs and low level stuff like that and the rest should fail deps and be offered to be removed
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> nibbl: like gnome* and libgnome* stuff like that
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Short1: if the data is corrupt, it won't work correctly
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> !away > Koops|brb
[20:40] <Short1> ActionParsnip: my DL did not pass md5!  re-downloading from cdimage.ubuntu.com
[20:40] <selasie> hello
[20:40] <Short1> ActionParsnip: thank you for the tip!
[20:41] <selasie> what tip
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Short1: np man, remember to MD5 test in future. Torrents help verify data
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> selasie: to md5 test
[20:41] <selasie> will anyone talk to me
[20:41] <selasie> helllo
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> selasie: wassup?
[20:41] <guntbert> selasie: welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[20:41] <selasie> hi action
[20:42] <guntbert> selasie:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:42] <Dmole> sudeep: I did see something like that once.... maybe in man ps, also you could just run it as a user and show only pids from that user.
[20:42] <selasie> what is ubuntu support
[20:42] <Short1> ActionParsnip: I am using "hdiutil convert" to change the ISO to an IMG, and then dd if to make a bootable image on the Firewire per instructions on dl/server/dl from ubuntu.com
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> selasie: its teh purpose of the channel
[20:43] <Dmole> selasie: it's a troll killer
[20:43] <nibbl> ActionParsnip, i am now using a diff to another machine to get the desired result... 354 packets to be removed...
[20:43] <guntbert> Dmole: don't
[20:43] <selasie> im not a troll killer
[20:43] <gizmobay> I'm having a problem with sudo hanging. I enter sudo and command and it just goes to the next line and flashes as it doesn't ask for a prompt.
[20:43] <Dmole> selasie: well tha's good to hear
[20:43] <oCean> hi selasie, do you have a support question?
[20:43] <sudeep> Dmole thank you. working on it.
[20:43] <gizmobay> Ctr-X etc can't kill it so I have a bunch of sudo's in my ps
[20:44] <gizmobay> Don't want to reboot
[20:44] <selasie> um what is the support channel
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> gizmobay: do you run JUST sudo, or do you run:  sudo command
[20:44] <guntbert> gizmobay: tell us the command you entered
[20:44] <gizmobay> sudo command
[20:44] <gizmobay> sudo su
[20:44] <Short1> wondering if there is a different/better GUI distro for PPC than 10.10 Maverick Meerkat?  something else I could/should try?
[20:44] <oCean> selasie: you are currently in the ubuntu support channel.
[20:44] <gizmobay> any command
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Short1: kde, lxde, xfce, kde
[20:44] <gizmobay> sudo /test.sh
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> gizmobay: does it happen as all users?
[20:44] <gizmobay> I only have one
[20:45] <selasie> ocean can i talk to action watever his name is
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> gizmobay: don't you mean: sudo ./text.sh
[20:45] <grubnwb> Hello?
[20:45] <gizmobay> yes ActionParsnip
[20:45] <Short1> Thank you again!
[20:45] <oCean> selasie: describe your support issue (detailed) in the channel, and see which user can help you
[20:45] <selasie> actionparsnip
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> gizmobay: there is a difference
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> selasie: wassup?
[20:45] <gizmobay> Reboot would fix but I don't want to
[20:46] <Short1> I am a total linux noob as you can probably tell
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> gizmobay: if you run:   ps -ef | grep sudo     are there any running?
[20:46] <selasie> anyway im new to this channel what are all your names
[20:46] <gizmobay> yes
[20:46] <gizmobay> 4 of them
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Short1: md5 isn't linux specific ;)
[20:46] <grubnwb> Can anyone help me fix this? http://twitpic.com/5apfqs
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> gizmobay: kill them off if they aren't needed
[20:46] <selasie> who
[20:46] <oCean> selasie: that is not a support question, this channel is not for general chat
[20:46] <gizmobay> I can't I need sudo
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> grubnwb: test ram
[20:47] <Short1> AP: I remember now, been a while since I attempted anything like this
[20:47] <selasie> then what is it for
[20:47] <sudeep> Dmole: pstree will work!
[20:47] <oCean> selasie: last time I tell you: for technical ubuntu support
[20:47] <selasie> ocean reply
[20:47] <grubnwb> Actionparsnip: what do you mean?
[20:47] <Dmole> sudeep: sounds good :)
[20:47] <jasonmchristos> ActionParsnip, is it possible to captivate the NTP request of a box and set the time to 1 second after midnight 1970 to root an ubuntu box?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> selasie: names are moot here, if you have a support question then this is the channel you need, if you want idle chat then join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> grubnwb: boot to liveCD or hold shift at boot and select memtest
[20:48] <selasie> fine im logging off bye loser
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> jasonmchristos: not sure, never looked into it
[20:48] <rww> selasie: be nice, please
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> selasie: see ya
[20:49] <selasie> was nice meeting you actionpasnip
[20:49] <selasie> hope to talk to u again sometime
[20:49] <Dmole> guntbert: told you so
[20:49] <jasonmchristos> ok ty for response ActionParsnip
[20:50] <grubnwb> Actionparsnip: I held down shift. This is what I got: mounting aufs on /root failed: No space left on device
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> grubnwb: not so good, use the liveCD
[20:51] <grubnwb> Wait sorry hold on
[20:51] <grubnwb> I just went into Memtest86
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> grubnwb: are you seeing any red outputs or is everything blue?
[20:53] <grubnwb> Where do I look for out puts?
[20:54] <bezao> it's possible after i've installed ubuntu in one language, i translate it to another language without re-installing everything?
[20:54] <codeon> why does keyboard key press and mouse motion does not work simultaneously ???
[20:55] <Short1> ActionParsnip: Is it possible to install vial Target Disk mode if I cannot get USB/FW to work?
[20:55] <grubnwb> Actionparsnip: http://twitpic.com/5apkga this is what is up currently
[20:55] <extraclassic> when I right click to "Open with" there are some duplicate entries for programs that I'd like to remove...anyone know where I could fix that
[20:55] <codeon>  why does keyboard key press and mouse motion does not work simultaneously ???
[20:56] <grubnwb> Actionparsnip: http://twitpic.com/5apkga this is what is up currently
[20:57] <Dmole> codeon: I suspect no one in here other than you has ever had that problem, thus they are unlikely to reply.....but maybe pastebin some log files~
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> grubnwb: looks good, what video chip do you use?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Short1: not sure, not used it dude. If you have a floppy drive there is a floppy image to boot usb
[20:57] <grubnwb> Actionparsnip: ATI radeon something it's an all in one pc
[20:58] <Short1> ActionParsnip: it's a Powerbook G4 12" =/
[20:58] <bezao> it's possible after i've installed ubuntu in one language, i translate it to another language without re-installing everything?
[20:58] <codeon> Dmole try it yourself...while keeping any key pressed in chat try to move your mouse
[20:59] <Short1> belongs to a friend, she suffered HDD hardware fail and can't afford a new machine.  I put a new drive in, trying to get linux up and running for her
[20:59] <guntbert> codeon: work perfectly here
[20:59] <guntbert> *works
[20:59] <codeon> why mine is not working :(
[21:00] <codeon> anywhere
[21:00] <grubnwb> Actionparsnip: http://twitpic.com/5apfqs I get this when I boot into ubuntu
[21:00] <brown_fern> codeon: My understanding was that for Mouse settings there is an option on the Touchpad tab concerning this.
[21:00] <TimothyA> okay, so I rebooted into GParted Live CD
[21:00] <TimothyA> and I *still* cannot extend my ext4 partition
[21:00] <trism> bezao: in System Settings/Language Support, install the language packs for the language you want to add, then log out and select the language before you log in
[21:01] <TimothyA> because this stupid swap space is in the way, and I can't remove that partition
[21:01] <TimothyA> what the hell is the purpose of this thing if it can't do anything?!
[21:01] <bezao> trism the problem is that i'm using ubuntu server.
[21:01] <th0r> grubnwb: did you do that dd command that fellow sent you a little earlier? did you try to 'clear the mbr'?
[21:02] <grubnwb> Actionparsnip: I am now able to see grub but get "no such partition"
[21:02] <MrJones> codeon: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs , if nobody has an idea here you might need to report it there to get extensive help
[21:02] <lonnie> I'm trying to test out my new chat website No Bullshit. If you have a moment please click here chat anything you want:
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[21:02] <zatan> Hi how can I add "xterm" to unity left panel ?
[21:02] <oCean> lonnie: stop that
[21:03] <brown_fern> codeon: Universal power button>>System Settings>>Mouse>>Disable Touchpad Pad While Typing.
[21:03] <xerf> hi
[21:03] <Dmole> TimothyA: if you use a live CD and make sure you are not using any partitions (unmount them) you will be able to move the partitions around with gparted
[21:04] <ray24> Is Dmole around
[21:04] <trism> bezao: check-language-support -l language_code; will show you what packages you need to install from the command line (replacing language_code with the codename for the language you want), then you can install them with apt-get, you may also need to specify them in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/ and dpkg-reconfigure locales;
[21:04] <codeon> it's working yippeee
[21:04] <codeon> brown_fern : thank you
[21:04] <brown_fern> codeon: You're welcome. :)
[21:05] <Dmole> ray24: yes
[21:05] <bl4ckcomb`> any ideas on how to share my host's clipboard with my rdesktop session?
[21:05] <bezao> trism thanks, i'll try
[21:05] <trism> bezao: for setting the locale system wide you may just need to edit /etc/default/locale, I don't know if there is a way to set it for a specific user
[21:05] <ActionPa1snip> zatan: run it, when it shows in unity, right click the unity item and select "keep in launcher"
[21:06] <zatan> ActionPa1snip, I did try but when I do that , I cant run second time from unity lancher
[21:06] <ray24> Dmole, The sync is almost done, so I might need your help with this banshee thing soon
[21:06] <ActionPa1snip> zatan: Yeah I've heard this. I just use CTRL+ALT+T to launch a new terminal, or you can use guake and spawn tabs in that :)
[21:07] <ljhr05> hello all :D
[21:08] <ljhr05> how to run a installer (.exe) using wineHQ ?
[21:08] <zatan> ActionPa1snip,  ok thanks and again unitty its annoying me
[21:08] <aj00200> I'm copying all the files out of my home directory (which is encrypted) but I'm seeing a bucnh of files like: ENCRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.*. Is this data still encrypted? I thought the files would be copied in the unencrypted for when I use scp to move them.
[21:08] <ActionPa1snip> zatan: guake is great if you do a lot of terminal work
[21:09] <ActionPa1snip> ljhr05: mark it as executable and then run it with wine
[21:09] <zatan> ActionPa1snip,  is it quick as xterm ?
[21:09] <poefter> hello everyone
[21:09] <ljhr05> ActionPa1snip, wait.. let me see
[21:09] <evilspiral> Need Some Assistance With Dual Booting Issue...
[21:09] <ActionPa1snip> zatan: yes, it always runs, you show and hide it with a shortcut key, much like the terminal in quake (if you ever played it)
[21:10] <poefter> can someone please help me with ubuntu 10.10 S3g unichrome install im having some issues. please help
[21:10] <zatan> ActionPa1snip,  let me try :)
[21:10] <evilspiral> Should I Keep The Dual Boot Of Ubuntu And Win 7 Or Should I Just Install Windows And Use A Linux Pendrive?
[21:10] <th0r> poefter: you won't get much of an answer until you clearly state the problem
[21:11] <ljhr05> ActionPa1snip, mm.. in property? =(
[21:11] <newbee_> please
[21:11] <newbee_> hi
[21:11] <poefter> my problem is when i add driver "openchrome" o xorg.conf i restart x and itplays a sound and returns to login screen
[21:11] <ActionPa1snip> ljhr05: yes, or you can use:  chmod +x file
[21:12] <newbee_> how can i get a boot to download and use with this server
[21:12] <newbee_> or script
[21:12] <ActionPa1snip> newbee_: can you clarify the question, it doesn't make sense
[21:13] <newbee_> a program im using the browser
[21:13] <brown_fern> zatan: I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but when I want to add an application to the bar on the left portion of the screen in Unity I launch it, right-click on that then active application and choose "keep in launcher."
[21:13] <poefter> S3 UniChrome Pro CN700 /
[21:13] <newbee_> xchat didn't connect for sommereson
[21:13] <bl4ckcomb`> newbee_, that's not even english
[21:13] <newbee_> ssl or something
[21:13] <zatan> brown_fern,  thank I tried this but it didnt work
[21:14] <brown_fern> zatan: I see.
[21:14] <newbee_> dudes foucs please
[21:14] <TeeCee> Hi, anybody else had issues with Intel Wireless stopped working recently? Seems like some firmware-issue.. :-(
[21:15] <sude> newbee: what do u mean by boot?
[21:15] <oCean> newbee_: sorry, but there are others that require attention also. Try to describe your issue (detailed) in single line
[21:15] <newbee_> im new on ubuntu and i tried to use Xchat the one that comes with the os but it did not conecct for some reason
[21:15] <ziikutv> is there anyway to resize my wubi ubuntu install and make it larger?
[21:15] <zatan> ActionPa1snip,  its looks that I found a great tool "guake" thanks :)
[21:15] <poefter> any ideas how to fix my openchrome  problem, when driver in xorg.conf is set to "openchrome" X wont start but cange to vesa or login in failsafe then it works, the via drier just crashes and shows a blue screen.  ... please help someone
[21:15] <sude> newbee_: what error does it show?
[21:15] <ActionPa1snip> zatan: totally :)
[21:16] <aj00200> I'm making a copy of the files in my home directory. What are these ENCRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED files?
[21:16] <newbee_> 1 sec sudo
[21:16] <Short1> AP: 2nd 10.10 download, still did not pass md5
[21:16] <newbee_> i let you know
[21:17] <newbee_> SASL only?
[21:17] <guntbert> Short1: use a torrent
[21:17] <poefter> anyone . . ?
[21:17] <sude> newbee_: did u try to connect to another sever?
[21:17] <atatreet> hello?
[21:18] <newbee_> yep worked just fine
[21:18] <Short1> guntbert: thanks I will try that
[21:18] <atatreet> is zleap her?
[21:18] <sude> you are only unable to get connected to ubuntu channel. Is that correct?
[21:18] <guntbert> atatreet:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:18] <atatreet> *here
[21:18] <atatreet> um, no
[21:18] <newbee_> i used mIRC and it says the same thing SASL only
[21:18] <poefter> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[21:19] <newbee_> nope to the whole server
[21:19] <guntbert> newbee_: join #freenode for connect problems
[21:19] <ljhr05> ActionPa1snip, done..now how I can use this program to connect internet in wine?
[21:20] <newbee_> though i've never been here this is my first
[21:20] <newbee_> ok gun
[21:20] <ActionPa1snip>  ljhr05 it will happen as long as the linux OS has link
[21:20]  * evilspiral Hands Newbee A Gun
[21:20] <sude> newbee_: open xhcat. seclect freenode and press connect.
[21:20] <amup> hi
[21:21] <xecure> hello
[21:22] <poefter> anyone help with openchrome
[21:22] <Short1> I am assuming I should be using the "desktop install"...
[21:22] <xecure> I need a little assistance with my broadcom drivers and such
[21:24] <ray24> Dmole, here is the banshee problem in pastebin   http://pastebin.com/WLXZgBx6
[21:26] <grubnwb> Sd
[21:26] <kthakore> Hello I am trying to setup a openvpn client and I keep getting this error in my log http://paste.scsys.co.uk/112469
[21:26] <zleap> atatreet,
[21:27] <poefter> help with openchrome or chrome9 please...?
[21:27] <atatreet> hi zleap
[21:27] <zleap> hi
[21:27] <skegeek> Anyone know where to find a patch to make WebMin follow Ubuntu packaging system?
[21:27] <ikonia> skegeek: webmin is not supported,
[21:27] <valentin> hi
[21:27] <zleap> ok you need to set up xchat to connect to the lug channel on flashtek
[21:27] <ikonia> !webmin > skegeek
[21:27] <ray24> has Dmole left?
[21:27] <J697> Can anyone help, I am trying to play Minecraft classic on Ubuntu 10.04 and the loading screen shows up but then it turns black :9
[21:27] <J697> :(
[21:27] <YankDownUnder> skegeek, Yeah mate, it's not supported, however, I use  it on all my client's servers - and when I have to update packages, I do it manually via ssh
[21:28] <skegeek> So, you're saying as long as I don't use it to manage packages then it should be fine?
[21:28] <ikonia> skegeek: no
[21:29] <jacque5> a
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> skegeek, If you want to PM me, I'll be more than happy to tell you how I use it for my clients mate.
[21:29] <ikonia> skegeek: check the link from ubottu, it's full of security holes, doesn't fit in with the ubuntu tools design etc etc
[21:29] <ikonia> YankDownUnder: super kind
[21:30] <skegeek> Is Easy Hosting Control Panel recommended?
[21:30] <ikonia> skegeek: by me personally, - no
[21:31] <Hoestbuitje> Cheers mates, is there anyone avaible? I've got some Ubuntu 11.04 install issues.
[21:31] <ikonia> Hoestbuitje: just ask, if someone can help, they will
[21:31] <sude> hoestbuitje: go ahead
[21:32] <skegeek> So far I've only found EHCP, VHCS, ISPConfig, and XPanel as free CPanel alternatives. ISPConfig I'm sure is way more than I need for site hosting.
[21:32] <Hoestbuitje> I've been trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 the last couple of days. The problem is, the install window does not respond to at "Where are you?", asking for my timezone. Everything else on the background does respond. I need to click the Forward button because it got my timezone perfectly right, but I can't click it. I am able to drag the window though.
[21:32] <ikonia> skegeek: ubuntu uses config files in a unique way, it's not a good option for those sort of tools, also if you need those tools....should you really be hosting a site ?
[21:33] <J697> Why can't I play Minecraft classic in Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:33] <skegeek> I don't NEED them. I'd just like them, I get tired of SSH
[21:33] <aj00200> I'm making a backup of my home directory before a reinstall. All the private keys are stored in ~/.gnupg, correct? Is there anything else I should be sure to copy?
[21:33] <sude> hoestbuitje: thats wired problem. were you connected to internet during installation?
[21:34] <airyK> J697: video card?
[21:34] <bullgard4> [ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso] How should I interpret the message "Ready, as soon as you are ready ..."?
[21:34] <ikonia> skegeek: ok - well, in that case (my opinion only) you should look at the risks they present over you being "tired" of ssh
[21:34] <Hoestbuitje> Yes I was syde
[21:34] <ikonia> skegeek: eg: you shouldn't need to do that much maintenance on a working web host after setup,
[21:34] <YankDownUnder> skegeek, Mate, always remember that regardless of distro, linux is "what you want how you want it" - just a matter of customising/tweaking it to do AS YOU WANT and how you want it...
[21:34] <J697> airyK, Intel GMA 4500M
[21:34] <Hoestbuitje> *sude
[21:34] <ikonia> bullgard4: pardon ?
[21:35] <skegeek> And basically what you're telling me is Ubuntu has customized Linux to the core, thereby having lockins like MS Windows.
[21:35] <Hoestbuitje> Ubuntu even tells me I'm connected when I have a look at the taskbar or however it's called within the Linux world (new here)
[21:35] <bullgard4> ikonia: How should I interpret this Ubuntu installer message?
[21:35] <Hoestbuitje> Also, when I try the Ubuntu Demo I can browse the internet
[21:35] <K-4U> Hoestbuitje: panel
[21:35] <Hoestbuitje> Allright K :P
[21:36] <aj00200> skegeek: no, you are not locked in. I see Ubuntu as a stepping stone from Windows to the overall Linux world.
[21:36] <sude> hoestbuitje: Even during my installation I was connected to internet. But I dint face that problem. I recommend you to get disconnected during installation ones.
[21:36] <YankDownUnder> skegeek, Mate, if you ask a Ford mechanic about a Chevy problem, you're going to be told that it's the FORD way or no way. However, when you want to work outside the spectrum, you can do as you want. It's linux, mate.
[21:37] <Hoestbuitje> K-4U told me the Timezone settings are retreived from my mobo clock
[21:37] <Hoestbuitje> Though I could try an install without a connection
[21:38] <aj00200> skegeek: also, you can undo these customizations easily. For example, dock applications to mimic the mac dock. A start button like interface. You can install KDE or an xfce.
[21:38] <ikonia> skegeek: it's nothing like Windows - so please don't be silly, they just have a different file system layout for certain core config files
[21:38] <ikonia> skegeek: sorry that message was delayed as my connection dropped
[21:38] <Dmole> ray24: now that you have a log of the problem you should google for things like "Banshee Illegal seek to offset"
[21:38] <ikonia> YankDownUnder: superb summery
[21:38] <skegeek> What can be done about the unqiue package handling?
[21:39] <aj00200> I am making a backup of my home directory before a reinstall. Are the private keys stored in ~/.gnupg?
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> ikonia, It's not that I'm trying to undermine... ;)
[21:39] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's pretty much saying "ready when you are"
[21:39] <ikonia> YankDownUnder: no, it's true, I don't like the file system layout either
[21:39] <escott> aj00200, your gpg private key is
[21:39] <sude> Hoestbuitje: yes try ones. Normally It takes time from the bios. But ubuntu also take time from the network if you are connected to internet.
[21:39] <paranoidi> is grub2 in graphical mode by default? I have small lcd monitor on my server that has maximum resolution of 800x600 and even later kernes seem to shoot my foot these days ...
[21:39] <aj00200> skegeek: it's not unique. Its open source and shared across debian based systems and can be ported elsewhere
[21:39] <aj00200> escott: and ssh keys are all in .ssh?
[21:39] <escott> aj00200, yes
[21:39] <Hoestbuitje> sude: I would be amazed if this actually works, worth a try
[21:39] <aj00200> escott: thanks :)
[21:40] <sude> Hoestbuitje: Waiting for your resutls
[21:40] <skegeek> Just how is it so different from other systems?
[21:41] <ray24> Dmole, seems like it's still an unresolved issue in other cases
[21:41] <ikonia> skegeek: core things like apache are laid out different and use ubuntu specific tools to configure it
[21:41] <ikonia> skegeek: you can override/undo it, but that requires a manual setup
[21:41] <aj00200> skegeek: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[21:41] <ikonia> aj00200: I don't think he's asking that - he's asking what ubuntu does different than other distros
[21:41] <Hoestbuitje> sude: holy shit!... I interact with the window, seems to work... I didn't expect it to be this easy
[21:42] <skegeek> Manual setup meaning not using the installer?
[21:42] <Dmole> ray24: well in that case file a bug report, pay someone to fix it, or use an alternative
[21:42] <ikonia> Hoestbuitje: control the language please
[21:42] <ikonia> skegeek: no, it means changing the application configs post install
[21:42] <robinabo> hello
[21:42] <ray24> Thanks for your advice bro
[21:42] <Hoestbuitje> ikonia: sorry there mate... thought it wasn't that bad
[21:42] <sude> Hoestbuitje: Congrats.
[21:42] <aj00200> ikonia: oh, ok
[21:42] <Hoestbuitje> sude: thanks, I'll just stay connected here untill I got it running
[21:42] <robinabo> how do you view your encryption pass-phrase? I just installed ubuntu and I pressed cancel before I could write it down
[21:43] <skegeek> Oh, well that's not necessarily bad...I'm talking about a server, so there isn't even X11.
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[21:43] <YankDownUnder> skegeek, The reality of it all is this: If you're wanting to use something, say, for instance, Webmin, you're going to have to tweak out some things, possibly live WITHOUT some things...but as long as you document what you're doing (for your own knowledge and for future issues) you should be right as rain. When I use Webmin on a client's server, yeah, I have to change some things - both on the core system and on the Webmin c
[21:43] <YankDownUnder> onfigurations, but I've already tried and tested these changes, documented them for my own good (and in case I get hit by a bus) and it's been a happy working relationship since 2005 (at least for me)
[21:44] <robinabo> so, how do you view your encryption pass-phrase?
[21:44] <ikonia> YankDownUnder: exactly
[21:45] <Hoestbuitje> sude: Seems to work fine now, thank you very much! It's installing right now. I think I am not supposed to pull out my internet cable to get the installation running, right? Did I find a bug?
[21:45] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you for your help.
[21:45] <sude> Hoestbuitje: Yes you have got a wired problem. May be a bug!
[21:45] <aj00200> robinabo: I'm not aware of any way to see that. I get the felling that it must be stored somewhere encrypted by your password, but I don't know how to get it.
[21:46] <mongy> robinabo, how did you encrypt it?
[21:46] <robinabo> I just clicked on encrypt home directory
[21:46] <evilspiral> So I Have An Issue Dual Booting Ubuntu And Win 7.... Should I Retry The Dual Boot Setup Or Should I Install Windows And Run Linux Off A Flash Drive?
[21:46] <robinabo> and on startup the message box said there was a terminal command to see it manually
[21:46] <mongy> robinabo, umm..   try ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase
[21:46] <mongy> or something like that
[21:46] <ActionPa1snip> evilspiral: what is the issue?
[21:46] <Hoestbuitje> sude: Is there a way to investigate if this really is a bug, or an issue with my pc? and to report it?
[21:47] <skegeek> When I do 'netstat -a | grep ehcp' I get a line with 'ehcp_autoreply', I can't figure out how to stop/remove it.
[21:47] <harushimo> question, I created a new user on my ubuntu system but I want to log into that user on the terminal.
[21:47] <robinabo> that's the right one, thank you mongy
[21:47] <harushimo> how would I do that
[21:47] <mongy> sweet
[21:47] <evilspiral> ActionPalsnip: Everytime I Dual Boot Win 7 And Ubuntu Either Windows Or Ubuntu Refuses To Work, At This Point Its Windows.
[21:48] <ActionPa1snip> harushimo: you can use:  su foo     change foo to the username
[21:48] <sude> Hoestbuitje: I don't know exactly what is the cause . But I need can investiage
[21:48] <harushimo> thanks
[21:48] <guntbert> harushimo: at the login prompt type the login name of the user, <enter> and the the password (no visual feedback)
[21:48] <ActionPa1snip> evilspiral: boot to liveCD and reinstate grub2
[21:49] <harushimo> password of the user or my password
[21:49] <evilspiral> ActionPalsnip: But Will That Help Windows?
[21:49] <ActionPa1snip> harushimo: the user you are su'ing to
[21:49] <ActionPa1snip> evilspiral: yes as grub2 boots windows too
[21:49] <harushimo> thanks
[21:50] <harushimo> I want to created some directory for these users
[21:50] <evilspiral> ActionPalsnip: Because My Windows Issue Crashes Windows After Its Loaded For 15min
[21:50] <ActionPa1snip> evilspiral: may want to test RAM too
[21:51] <K-4U> who is talking about windows here?.. isn't that a bit the same as talking about the devil in the church?
[21:51] <evilspiral> ActionPalsnip: I Think Its A GPU Issue, Out Of Nowhere It Crashes, Shutting Off Imediatley And Then Refuses To Restart As If It Had Overheated
[21:51] <robinabo> yes K-4u it is
[21:51] <K-4U> okay :p
[21:52] <YankDownUnder> evilspiral, Just for a giggle and a grin, does yer graphics card have a fan, and have you cleaned the dust offa yer fan and from around the cooling fins as of late?
[21:52] <evilspiral> Well It Has Two GPU's In My Laptop But I Cant Open It Up As It Voids My Full Warranty
[21:53] <Hoestbuitje> sude: I've got it up and running. May I think you for your simple but problem-solving solution? :P
[21:53] <guntbert> !ot | YankDownUnder
[21:54] <guntbert> YankDownUnder: soryy, I misread
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> evilspiral, It's not that hard to blow through the vents on the sides - AND to make sure that you're getting ventilation from underneath...just FYI...however, on that note, being that I have certs to open such things, that is generally one of the first things I do when I get a client's laptop/netbook - blow out the dust and schmutz and then take it from there... ;)
[21:54] <sude> Hoestbuitje: Thank you. And enjoy your installation.
[21:54] <ljhr05> what is the command to see the trademark of my video card on terminal?
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> ljhr05, sudo lspci | grep VGA
[21:55] <evilspiral> YankDownUnder: Thanks For The Help. But Why Doesnt It Fail When I Run Ubuntu?
[21:55] <robinabo> can somebody tell me why in ubuntu i don't have to set a keyring but in lubuntu I have to give a password for a keyring???
[21:56] <YankDownUnder> evilspiral, Mate, it could be a matter of overheating once the GPU kicks in - I've seen it way more than a few times...that being said, when was the last time this worked properly and what has changed since that point in time?
[21:56] <guntbert> robinabo: that depends mainly on the fact if you log in automatically or give a pasword
[21:56] <leaky> whenever i try and close down my ubuntu machine, it never does? it always goes to the desktop background, then hangs at a purple colour? never shuts down...
[21:57] <Dmole> leaky: pastebin your log files
[21:57] <rahul_> guys I need some themes for Ubuntu 11.03, from where can I get some?
[21:57] <ActionPa1snip> robinabo: the keyring password wioll offer to be set the first time you use it. You can set a blank password and not be bothered by it
[21:57] <ActionPa1snip> !theme | rahul_
[21:58] <leaky> how? (im new to ubuntu)
[21:58] <abstrakt> why doesn't my jack server work anymore?
[21:58] <abstrakt> i can't get any sound out of hydrogen
[21:59] <abstrakt> jack starts, but i'm getting some weird permissions looking errors
[21:59] <Short1> I'm using hdiutil to convert my ISO to IMG (os x terminal).  The IMG file appears in finder while the conversion is happening, but when it's done, the file dissapears.  any ideas?
[21:59] <evilspiral> YankDownUnder: Well I Have Been Re Dual Booting My System For A While Trying To Find The Perfect Harmony. Somethings I Need To Do Just Requires Windows.  And So Far This Was the Best Run So Far But When I Downloaded The Drivers For My GPU's Anytime I Use Something That Has Any Sort Of Graphics My Fans For The GPU Dont Seem To Kick In As Fast As My Ubuntu Partition
[21:59] <sude> leaky: do this. I think it may help you. Go to terminal and type this sudo poweroff -f and press enter
[22:00] <brown_fern> paranoidi: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Changes-from-GRUB-Legacy   the forth bullet from the bottom indicates what you suspected and what anyone who's been running Grub2 knows. However, I would think that like other graphical aspects of Grub that it is just an option. I'm not familiar with editing those specific values in Grub2.
[22:00] <leaky> that's only a temporary solution? i want to be able to close the machine down user shut down normally. I'm not going to be the primary user of this machine.
[22:00] <leaky> dmole which logfiles you want?
[22:00] <sude> leaky: what is the error you are getting?
[22:01] <leaky> it's not an error, it just hangs, it doesn't shut down.
[22:02] <skegeek> What are the numbers at the right in a netstat entry?
[22:02] <Dmole> leaky	: messages, syslog to start
[22:03] <skegeek> There are like 6 numbers and then the source name...
[22:03] <Bar_> 3000 open files is a lot for a server ? :|
[22:03] <robinabo> So I have a login password for lubuntu. But when I use a password it asks me to set a keyring password, which Ubuntu never asked me to do. When I leave it blank, it says that giving no password is unsafe. What should I do?
[22:03] <robinabo> I encrypt my home folder
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> evilspiral, Far out...far out...well, I'd look into the overheating bit for sure mate...and then, because of the "hangs" in both MS and in Ubuntu, I'd double check the consistency of your HD's to make sure nothing's been damaged in the FS's or physically on the disk...
[22:03] <Dmole> skegeek: I-Node?
[22:04] <ljhr05> I need to install drivers with a laptop using Intel graphics?..
[22:04] <skegeek> unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     1517106  private/ehcp_autoreply
[22:04] <Dmole> robinabo: blank is fine
[22:04] <skegeek> I'm referring to the 1517106 in that line
[22:04] <evilspiral> ActionPalsnip: So Far Ive Done Several Disk Checks And BSoD Reports For Windows And As Far As I Can Read Into It Its Fine
[22:04] <DasEi> ljhr05: gma graphics, integrated ?
[22:05] <Dmole> skegeek: Proto RefCnt Flags       Type       State         I-Node   Path
[22:05] <robinabo> gracias
[22:05] <evilspiral> :YankDownUnder: Sorry That Was Meant For You
[22:05] <rypervenche> evilspiral: That hurts my eyes...can you use proper capitalization please?
[22:05] <skegeek> Okay. How do I stop that then??
[22:05] <skegeek> I don't see any process id
[22:05] <ljhr05> DasEi, Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[22:05] <leaky> dmole its too big to copy/paste/send? aha
[22:06] <sude> skegeek:  netstat -p
[22:06] <sude> leaky: use www.pastebin.com
[22:06] <evilspiral> Rypervenche: I do appologize, but I have typed like that for years. Im slow typing otherwise
[22:06] <leaky> sude i am, the pc isn't copying it all for whatever reason...
[22:07] <Dmole> leaky	: zip it and post it somewhere, or clear it out then reboot then pastebin it
[22:07] <DasEi> ljhr05: there have been some improvements in the younger kernel line for it, and so it comes integrated , which kernel are you running ?
[22:07] <sude> leaky: how are you trying to copy
[22:07] <rypervenche> evilspiral: Well, it hurts my eyes, and I know many people who ignore people completely who type like that. Just a heads-up. It might be a good idea to change the bad habit while you still can. ^^
[22:07] <DasEi> ljhr05: uname -r tells you
[22:07] <leaky> i tried ctrl + c & riclick sude
[22:07] <leaky> right click*
[22:08] <sude> leaky: which file are you trying to copy?
[22:08] <leaky> sude: syslog
[22:08] <ljhr05> DasEi,  2.6.38-8-generic
[22:08] <leaky> sude: should i do what dmole suggest and clear it out and reboot?
[22:08] <skegeek> Thanks, that allowed me to stop the autoreply service. I still cannot get rid of the default index page though - don't know what is keeping it there.
[22:09] <DasEi> ljhr05: with that you should be fine, is there a certain issue you have ?
[22:09] <sude> leaky: you can do that
[22:10] <brown_fern> paranoidi: I apologize, I think that's the wrong version of the grub documentation. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring%20GRUB%202   Try here for Grub2 configuration.
[22:10] <ljhr05> DasEi, well I just wanted to be sure.. you know what is the command to test the 3D drivers? ...the one that use a cube cap.. dont remember well
[22:10] <sude> leaky: or u can do this. cat syslog  > /home/usename/Desktop/log
[22:12] <DasEi> ljhr05: you could try glxgears from mesa-utils
[22:12] <consolecowboy> my laptop isn't suspending when i close the lid, even though it's set that way. how could i fix this?
[22:13] <ActionPa1snip> consolecowboy: what make and model laptop?
[22:13] <consolecowboy> it's a toshiba satellite pro l300
[22:13] <ljhr05> DasEi, 302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.317 FPS is good?
[22:13] <consolecowboy> from time to time it works, but not consistantly
[22:14] <ActionPa1snip> consolecowboy: should've added that to the initial question. It is critical to your issue
[22:14] <consolecowboy> ActionPa1snip: thanks
[22:14] <ActionPa1snip> consolecowboy: are there any bugs reported?
[22:14] <Short1> ActionParsnip: got a working md5 checksum, still no love
[22:14] <leaky> sude: still too big, ill reboot and copy/paste the latest info
[22:15] <sude> leaky: okay
[22:15] <consolecowboy> not sure if there's anything new... it didn't suspend at all two ubuntu versions ago
[22:15] <vladdypwnz> Hi, I'm having the weirdest time trying to access my old win7 partitions after installing ubuntu. sudo /dev/sd* shows a list of like 6 different filesystems (I'm guessing?) but every time I try to mount it it asks for a filesystem type and I can't seem to figure out which one it is. I've tried ntfs and fat32. what gives?
[22:16] <Pen16> Hello, I'm trying to unzip multiple files in a directory but they need to have a folder created for each zip
[22:16] <jpmut> windows usually uses ntfs
[22:16] <ActionPa1snip> consolecowboy: also, do bios upgrades state they fix any suspend issues?
[22:16] <DasEi> ljhr05: for an integrated chip, I don't use gma, maybe ask this directly to someone doing so to have a check, 64k ain't bad
[22:16] <vladdypwnz> /dev/sda1 is where the ubuntu is installed. Assuming that /dev/sdb1 is an ntfs, what's a terminal command to try and mount it? Like I said it never think it's the right filesystem
[22:17] <consolecowboy> it's discontinued.. i don't think toshiba are releasing bios updates for it
[22:17] <Pen16> i'm using this command but $ unzip ‘*.zip’
[22:17] <Xqtftqx> Hello, my unity seems to be broken. None of the running apps appear in the 'dock'
[22:17] <avis> is there a perm easy way to switch to metacity
[22:17] <cwheeler> what's the name of the command to configure networking?
[22:17] <ActionPa1snip> consolecowboy: hmm, do you have the latest BIOS then?
[22:18] <consolecowboy> i tend to be a bit rough with the machine, so it is possible that i simply broke the 'close lid' sensor
[22:18] <rypervenche> consolecowboy: It would be a good idea to check anyways. Things like that are often fixed in the BIOS.
[22:18] <ActionPa1snip> avis: add a startup item to run:  metacity --replace
[22:18] <consolecowboy> rypervenche: ok, i'll have a look
[22:18] <avis> there's a way to do it from  console th
[22:18] <Pen16> but it just dumps all the files to one folder and they are similar so i cant rename them
[22:18] <jpmut> vladdypwnz, I have an application called palimpset which I use to easily mount my filesystems
[22:18] <vladdypwnz> Cool I'll try it out, thanks man
[22:18] <avis> the denisty of ubuntu users often make it hard to find
[22:19] <Pen16> Well, is there anyone interested
[22:19] <jpmut> vladdypwnz, it will also tell you which is Windows (ntfs/fat) or Linux (ext3/4)
[22:19] <vladdypwnz> Oh wow it's a default utility huh
[22:20] <vladdypwnz> Silly me
[22:20] <DasEi> ljhr05: give me a minute, I recently found something on gma500 on the wiki, have to find it back
[22:20] <ActionPa1snip> avis: you can run the command from terminal if you want but when you close the terminal, it will switch back
[22:20] <jpmut> vladdypwnz, yeah! ;)
[22:21] <leaky> sude dmole http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=T56bLeqE
[22:21] <leaky> that's shut down / reboot now
[22:21] <leaky> the*
[22:21] <consolecowboy> i've got the latest bios version - hasn't been updated since '08. the monitor goes blank when i close the lid, so it seems to be properly recognising the event
[22:22] <consolecowboy> just not suspending
[22:22] <DasEi> ljhr05: http://tinyurl.com/5towcxo
[22:22] <ljhr05> DasEi, oh..let me see
[22:23] <nighmi> hello, I lost the maximize and quit buttons in Unity for all windows that are not in fullscreen mode... any way to get them back?
[22:23] <DasEi> ljhr05: all over that's not the best have for linux, but for desktop it works
[22:23] <ljhr05> DasEi, well Im using XFCE .. xubuntu 11.04 xD
[22:24] <DasEi> ljhr05: so be lucky
[22:25] <Pen16> hey im lookin for some help on unziping multiple files into their rexpective folders
[22:25] <Pen16> *respective
[22:25] <ljhr05> DasEi, yeah..thanks for all
[22:26] <vladdypwnz> How do you access windows of, say, Chrome that are already opened? (other than alt+tab) ?
[22:26] <vladdypwnz> Clicking the icon again just launches a new instance
[22:27] <Pen16> am i in the wrong chat room, is there one for help spicifically
[22:28] <jpmut> vladdypwnz, taskbar?
[22:28] <denes> hi! in 10.10, i have ati fglrx on RS880 [Radeon HD 4250] [1002:9715] and when i start google earth, the textures are very "noisy" (original content unvisible, colorful/mostly yellowish stripes and things) often but not allways. how could i fix it?
[22:28] <vladdypwnz> Errr... I have ubuntu 11 and it only has the huge bar on the left with icons in it to launch but I see no task bar
[22:28] <DasEi> Pen16: this is ubuntu-specific help here, what format are the files compressed in ?
[22:29] <Pen16> .zip
[22:29] <DasEi> vladdypwnz: thaT#s unitiy default, if you don't like it, can :
[22:29] <rcconf> how can I know when kernel was upgraded?
[22:29] <DasEi> !classic
[22:29] <rcconf> tks
[22:29] <_ohm> If I compile software from source but the environment are not completely correct, can I just change the environment variables after the installation and everything will be correct or do I have to recompile?
[22:30] <vladdypwnz> Well I do like it. Is it possible ot have a task bar AND the unity look?
[22:30] <DasEi> Pen16: so use unzip or p7zip-full to inflate them
[22:30] <brown_fern> Pen16: I am only a novice but I don't know of a way to do what you're want within the conventions of the "tar" command, I'd try the #bash channel if you can't be helped here.
[22:31] <jpmut> vladdypwnz, I still have ubuntu 10.04 so this may not work for you. Right click on the bar and "add new item"... search and add "Task List"
[22:31] <VICODAN> sup
[22:31] <VICODAN> got 10.04 mostly working
[22:31] <bsmith093> quick ethics question, I recently saved two laptops from garage sale limbo, and when i powered them up, the guy hadn't wiped the drives, so i spent the next 10 hours recovering the data off these two laptops, one of which had a ethernet port, but with win 95 ans the other didn't even have that. eventually i just gave up, figured he wouldn't want the machines back, and gutted them for the drives, stuck them in a ide sta usb contraptio
[22:31] <VICODAN> trying to do some compiz and gnome tweaking now
[22:31] <VICODAN> how do you create shortcuts on the desktop?
[22:31] <VICODAN> like im trying to create a shortcut to terminal on the desktoip
[22:31] <vladdypwnz> jpmut, doesn't seem to do anything for me. Oh well
[22:32] <VICODAN> i guess application in termal -> bash works
[22:32] <DasEi> bsmith093: ethics ? #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:32] <_ohm> VICODAN, Right click and Create Launcher doesn't work?
[22:32] <bsmith093> right then sorry
[22:32] <VICODAN> _ohm: i was doing application not application in terminal with command bash
[22:33] <VICODAN> _ohm: once I set it to application in terminal it works
[22:33] <_ohm> Vicodan, would you mind telling me your problem again?
[22:33] <rly> Is there some kind of default firewall besides ufw?
[22:34] <VICODAN> well i was trying to create a shortcut to terminal on the desktop
[22:34] <rly> Something is blocking traffic.
[22:34] <VICODAN> i fixed it
[22:34] <rypervenche> rly: gufw if you want a GUI, why would you want a different one?
[22:34] <VICODAN> i was doing create laucher -> application -> command = bash which wasnt working
[22:34] <VICODAN> so i just did create laucher -> application in terminal -> command = bash
[22:34] <VICODAN> that works
[22:34] <randolph`> :D
[22:34] <DasEi> rly:there are other fw's you can install or-the hard way- set up iptables manually
[22:34] <_ohm> vicodan, try having the command as xterm
[22:35] <rly> rypervenche: that is obviously not what I meant.
[22:35] <VICODAN> xterm? why?
[22:35] <rly> I want no firewall at all.
[22:35] <_ohm> vicodan, or the ubuntu terminal program
[22:35] <nag> is it common to notice massive performance regressions after upgrading to 11.04 using Xfce?
[22:35] <rypervenche> rly: I don't believe Ubuntu uses one by default.
[22:35] <VICODAN> they both seem to work the same
[22:35] <rly> rypervenche: right, neither do I.
[22:35] <_ohm> vicodan, having something call bash doesn't seem like a good idea to me
[22:35] <VICODAN> actually when i use xterm it comes up with a white window
[22:36] <DasEi> rly: use iptables command to flush it then (sudo iptables -F)
[22:36] <VICODAN> when i use bash it comes up in a purple window like the terminal laucher installed in the default menu
[22:36] <wezeus> #bash.org.pl
[22:36] <disappearedng_> Anyone knows why gvfs-trash doesn't work for mounted partitions? (
[22:36] <DasEi> rypervenche: ufw there is, but not enableb by default as far I know
[22:37] <_ohm> vicodan, yeah, I'm not entirely sure what ubuntu's terminal is, try x-terminal-emulator as your command
[22:37] <VICODAN> now what im wondering is why does the window launch in the bottom left everytime i open it
[22:38] <randolph`> gnome-terminal opens the default ubuntu terminal
[22:38] <VICODAN> yes that works randolph
[22:39] <randolph`> :D
[22:39] <VICODAN> still question is why does it open in the bottom left of the screen every time
[22:41] <_ohm> If I compile software from source but the environment are not completely correct, can I just change the environment variables after the installation and everything will be correct or do I have to recompile? My problem is basically this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578048
[22:41] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: try moving it then hold CTRL+SHIFT and close it, then reopen to test
[22:41] <VICODAN> ActionPa1snip: doesnt work
[22:42] <randolph`> im not sure _ohm but the people in #gentoo know a lot about compiling
[22:42] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: if you use terminal a lot, have you considered using guake
[22:42] <VICODAN> no
[22:42] <VICODAN> what's guake
[22:42] <VICODAN> and yes i use terminal a lot
[22:42] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: youtube have sonme nice vids to explain it
[22:42] <escott> VICODAN, ever played quake?
[22:42] <VICODAN> lol yes
[22:42] <VICODAN> back in the day
[22:43] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: remember the terminal in quake?
[22:43] <escott> VICODAN, its the quake terminal (~) but with a linux terminal and F12
[22:43] <VICODAN> played wolfenstein and doom as well
[22:43] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: its like that :D
[22:43] <VICODAN> ActionPa1snip: kind of
[22:43] <VICODAN> googling now
[22:43] <rypervenche> ActionPa1snip: Is there anything like guake for Xfce?
[22:44]  * VICODAN is a fedora 14 fanboy trying to give ubuntu 11.04 a chance since he hates fedora15 
[22:44] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: vids will explain better, you can show and hide a terminal with a shortcut key. F12 is default but I use F1 personally
[22:44] <escott> VICODAN, you press F12 it drops down, you press again it receeds
[22:44] <VICODAN> nice
[22:45] <escott> rypervenche, you could run guake with XFCE the requirements are pretty minimal (the gtk vte library) its actually a python program
[22:45] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: kde has yakuake
[22:45] <VICODAN> i dont believe in kde
[22:46] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: tilda is a lightweight version of both
[22:47] <VICODAN> actionpalsnip: it's either gnome+compiz or xfce for me
[22:47] <Algorith> is there a way to make an Impress file in presentation mode appear in the alt+tab list?
[22:47] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: LXDE + openbox here
[22:47] <VICODAN> ActionPa1snip: can you run compiz on LXDE
[22:47] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: sure, why not
[22:48] <VICODAN> without spending 2 hours trying to get it work?
[22:48] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: i've seen vids of people do it. I dont like compiz
[22:49] <VICODAN> ActionPalsnip: I like it. I like turning on animations and randomizing all the effects on minimizing/maximizing windows, i like the desktop cube and rotations and a bunch of other things
[22:49] <MGCookie> hello all, im looking for a distro that will work with skype on a eeepc. any thoughts or ideas?
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[22:50] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: causes a lot of issues for very little gain here. I like fast and sleek :)
[22:50] <Logan_> !botattack
[22:51] <VICODAN> ActionPalsnip: I'm running an AMD Radeon 5770
[22:51] <VICODAN> there's no issues here
[22:51] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: my nvidia 6150 can handle it fine, i just choose not to
[22:52] <VICODAN> ActionPalsnip: fair enough.
[22:52] <VICODAN> it was hard enough to get the official AMD ATI driver working
[22:53] <HelloWorld321> When setting up WiNE, the default emulation mode is Windows XP.  Is there any reason not to use Windows 7 emulation mode?
[22:54] <abojep> hi, I have just installed the xfce desktop and I can't get the sound to work. The card is external and shows up in 'Sound Preferences', any advice?
[22:55] <jaduwala> am I in chat room now? (sorry new to irs and this client here)
[22:55] <VICODAN> jaduwala: yes, hi
[22:55] <DasEi> !support | jaduwala, and welcome
[22:55] <ActionPa1snip> VICODAN: i only buy nvidia. They have supported linux for as long as i've used linux
[22:55] <palhmbs> where does the xorg.conf live ?
[22:55] <jaduwala> Hi, And thanks VICODAN
[22:56] <VICODAN> ActionPalsnip: i only buy AMD
[22:56] <VICODAN> and when I say AMD I mean ATI too.
[22:56] <VICODAN> palmje_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:56] <VICODAN> oops
[22:56] <VICODAN> palhmbs*
[22:57] <jaduwala> Any tutorial on IRC, I dont even know how to register at freenode so that I get same id evertime. Been using Yahoo messenger al my life to chat
[22:57] <Smashcat> anyone here had problems returning hardware that's not supported by linux (when the manufacturr
[22:57] <Smashcat> ..er claims it is?
[22:57] <ActionPa1snip> jaduwala: ask in #freenode for help on registering
[22:58] <VICODAN> jaduwala join #freenode
[22:58] <jaduwala> Oh Great and Stupid of me not to have thought that
[22:58] <ActionPa1snip> Smashcat: say it's not suitable for the purpose , works in the UK. Depends on local laws
[22:58] <ActionPa1snip> jaduwala: not stupid, you just didn't know. But now you do so it's all good :)
[22:59] <DasEi> jaduwala: feel free to pm me , I got helped in here once, too
[22:59] <Smashcat> ActionPalsnip: Yeah, thought it'd be ok - it's a wireless PCI card, although it "works" as in linux can see it and it connects, it's unusable due to it dropping connection constantly. Works fine under windows ofc. Ebuyer claim it's working ok so won't refund
[23:01] <ActionPa1snip> Smashcat: when it drops connection, run:  dmesg | tail    what is output?
[23:01] <Smashcat> I just wish manufacturers would either fully support hardware under linux, or state categorically that is does not work under linux. I'd never have bought it if they hadn't lied
[23:02] <Smashcat> ActionPalsnip - no errors, it just constantly connects, disconnects.  (well it did, it's no longer here until ebuyer return it)
[23:03] <ActionPa1snip> Smashcat: did you try disabling ipv6? Did you try a different channel?
[23:04] <Smashcat> ActionPalsnip - yep, and yep. Believe me, tried everything. It would connect and work for a maximum of 1 minute at a time. Then drop connection and reconnect.
[23:04] <Snakkah> How do I get text color in XChat to properly be displayed in other clients like mIRC? I tried asking the XChat people but didn't get a response. :/
[23:05] <ActionPa1snip> Smashcat: when it drops, dmesg says nothing extra at all?
[23:05] <Smashcat> ActionPalsnip: Under Windows it worked flawlessly with the exact same settings in the same PC. I suspect crappy drivers for linux
[23:05] <ActionPa1snip> Snakkah: i'd ask in the mirc channel
[23:05] <Snakkah> ActionPa1snip, are they active?
[23:05] <toenail>  I'm using Ubuntu, but I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a room with users of the presonus firepod. If none know about that, maybe even an Intel Chipset help room.
[23:05] <ActionPa1snip> Snakkah: not sure. I dont use mirc. Don't see the point
[23:05] <Smashcat> ActionPalsnip: No, as I say it's not here atm - but there was nothing in dmesg - just the usual logs about connecting etc.
[23:06] <toenail> The good old PC thinks my Firewire port is a usb port.
[23:06] <Smashcat> ActionPalsnip: So basically avoid anything using the Ralink 3062 chipset in 11.04
[23:08] <DasEi> toenail: I never heard about presonus, but you could use lshw or such to gather info, also there is #hardware
[23:08] <toenail> ok thanks
[23:09] <toenail> That channels invite only
[23:10] <Nikro> Anyone knows a workaround for a fullscreen flash player experience with dual screen? Flash player appears only on the primary screen and althou' it is fullscreen, the image itself stretches only to smaller screen resolution..
[23:10] <rww> toenail: 1) it's ##hardware, 2) you need to identify to nickserv to get in there
[23:10] <DasEi> !register | toenail
[23:10] <rww> !register
[23:12] <toenail> it's been a long time sense I used Xchat
[23:12] <toenail> Yay Im a n00b again
[23:15] <harushimo> question
[23:15] <Short1> is there a distro that's compatible with both intel mac and also PPC mac?
[23:15] <harushimo> is a there way I can physically go inside newly created user account
[23:16] <harushimo> i know there is a command on the terminal? I can't remember
[23:16] <Spektreii> Haraken, sudo su - <username>
[23:16] <Spektreii> err
[23:16] <Spektreii> harushimo, sudo su - <username>
[23:16] <ActionPa1snip> Short1: many distros support PPC, Puppy for example
[23:16] <DasEi> harushimo: depends on config, or root can do
[23:16] <Shoogy> is there someone that can help me get my linux set up correctly
[23:16] <Shoogy> I am kinda new to this
[23:16] <ActionPa1snip> Spektreii: to switch user, you just need:  su name
[23:17] <Shoogy> and all the graphics look like they are running in safe mode
[23:17] <DasEi> Shoogy: sure, which distro ?
[23:17] <harushimo> I used that
[23:17] <Shoogy> ubuntu
[23:17] <harushimo> I want to be that user
[23:17] <Shoogy> Standard Ubuntu
[23:17] <etharooni> Hey people.  I have a problem.  I tried to change the window style in xubuntu, and now it doesn't let me log in.  I can only use the "recovery console."
[23:17] <Spektreii> ActionPa1snip, the - ensures that you load the .bashrc and .profile so you become the user rather than sudo the user.
[23:17] <DasEi> Shoogy: lsb_release -a
[23:17] <etharooni> is there a way to change the window style from the command line?
[23:17] <DasEi> Shoogy: natty ?
[23:17] <Short1> Action Pa1snip:  it looks like i will have to use my MBP to install to this drive, and then put the drive in the PPC and hopefully have it work
[23:17] <Guest54792> woof
[23:18] <etharooni> ...Or turn off the window style and go to a graphic-safe mode or something?
[23:18] <harushimo> everytime I do an ls, it shows my files and directories
[23:18] <harushimo> not the users
[23:19] <VICODAN> hey ActionPalsnip you still there?
[23:19] <canthiswait> has anyone stepped up to get projectM in Ubuntu? those visualizations are fantastic
[23:19] <Guest54792> where do i find the dos prompt
[23:19] <thiebaude> lol
[23:20] <thiebaude> :)
[23:20] <G00053> Guest54792: ctrl + alt + t
[23:20] <VICODAN> projectM?
[23:20] <VICODAN> better than compiz?
[23:20] <VICODAN> never heard of it
[23:20] <escott> harushimo, it may not change your current working directory, although a true login shell should. you could do bash --login to force a login shell
[23:20] <canthiswait> VICODAN, it's like MilkDrop from Windows
[23:20] <thiebaude> !terminal
[23:20] <VICODAN> oh
[23:20] <VICODAN> but wouldnt you need a music player for that canthiswait
[23:21] <canthiswait> VICODAN, it's actually supposed to support milkdrop files too
[23:21] <harushimo> escott: that exactly what I want to do
[23:21] <VICODAN> nice
[23:21] <VICODAN> im still trying to get the OS working at the moment :P
[23:21] <harushimo> escott: I want to see what directories and files are for specific user
[23:21] <canthiswait> VICODAN, yeah it just plugs in to an audio stream so technically it can be used with any player
[23:22] <VICODAN> nice
[23:22] <VICODAN> what mp3 player you use?
[23:22] <VICODAN> it seems like "banshee" is the default in ubuntu
[23:22] <escott> harushimo, well you don't have to be that person to find that out, you can read the permissions off of ls -l
[23:22] <VICODAN> or whatever it's called
[23:23] <harushimo> escott: what if I want to dump a file in that user's directory?
[23:23] <G00053> VICODAN:  i came from windows and loved winamp , i've settled on Banshee . gnome mplayer is also pretty good
[23:24] <VICODAN> if you're a winamp person and you settled on banshee that's a good enough comparison for me
[23:24] <escott> harushimo, usually their home would be /home/username (you can confirm by inspecting /etc/passwd) and you can just create a file in their directory. you may need to chown it to them so they can access it fully
[23:24] <harushimo> escott: how would I do it with a chown
[23:24] <etharooni> sorry, the terminal wouldn't let me open up stuff so I can't tell if anybody responded.  But I got it working.
[23:25] <escott> harushimo, chown username:usergroup filename you may not be able to do that in which case you may need to sudo chown
[23:26] <JonathanWanker> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   JonathanWanker spliffi spy1080 ralf zloooo bjorn_248 jsiler billy_ alexp_bad_networ visitor1 etharooni delinquentme mrb101 pfifo mark7845 draven molochx3 p
[23:26] <JonathanWanker> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   winggndm yakk ichavero_ phreck IdleOne Goribeet aricz elgar _gigs_ altin _alazar frostschutz VICODAN Guest404 seemawn Browser brcasper blag hunter` QaDeS X
[23:26] <JonathanWanker> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   pr0ton Akuma bhrams dim_ paranoidi Tr0gd0r lrvick nixusr Skaperen Paranoid_ dTheta guampa raven_ Fireblasto PascalFR Sunloung kthakore Spektreii skegeek ma
[23:26] <spliffi> #ubuntufr /j
[23:26] <VICODAN> wow that looks annoying
[23:26] <IdleOne> spliffi: /join #ubuntu-fr
[23:27] <spy1080> brother c puede conectar al canal del msn por irc
[23:27] <mark7845> whats that all about SASL
[23:27] <ralf> Hallo ist da jemand
[23:27] <billy_> can anyone help everything ive tried to download recently go's at a snails pace could this be the ubuntu server?
[23:27] <Thehelpfulone> mark7845: it's spam
[23:27] <skegeek> Darn it! I just can't seem to get rid of EHCP.
[23:27] <IdleOne> !es | spy1080
[23:27] <mark7845> Thehelpfulone: ty :)
[23:27] <IdleOne> mark7845: it is spam, never mind it
[23:27] <Thehelpfulone> no problem :)
[23:28] <G00053> IdleOne: spam in the sense that it's not true or just annoying ?
[23:28] <Shoogy> I am back
[23:28] <G00053> or both i guess
[23:28] <escott> thats not spanish... maybe dutch?
[23:28] <IdleOne> G00053: if it were true freenode staff would not spam
[23:29] <G00053> fair enough
[23:29] <escott> !de | Ralfm
[23:29] <escott> nevermind he left sorry Ralfm
[23:29] <bjorn_248> is this SASL stuff real? or just a scam
[23:29] <IdleOne> !botattack
[23:30] <bjorn_248> alright
[23:30] <bjorn_248> I can't connect to freenode while on my phone's network though, and I always get that message about SASL
[23:31] <VICODAN> guake is pretty neat
[23:31] <billy_> can anyone help everything ive tried to download recently go's at a snails pace could this be the ubuntu server?
[23:31] <VICODAN> thanks
[23:31] <G00053> billy , downloading form where ?
[23:31] <korale_> I'm trying to find a way to upgrade a locally (via apt-get) installed version of boost. How do I go about either building packages for it or finding already built packages?
[23:31] <billy_> the ubuntu servers either through the terminal or software centre
[23:32] <VICODAN> where did ActionPa1snip go
[23:33] <billy_> G00053, the ubuntu servers either through the terminal or software centre
[23:33] <G00053> billy_:  have you tried other sources to test ?
[23:34] <escott> korale_, there isn't a terribly good way to do this. you could try installing a version of boost specific to the next version of ubuntu, or from the debian testing but you risk breaking applications that depend on boost
[23:34] <billy_> all videos are loading quickly on the interne ill try a download quick
[23:34] <escott> billy_, synaptic has a mirror selection tool
[23:37] <billy_> downlaods from the internet are slow aswell but everthing else i.e videos loading of page is quick
[23:37] <ZiauddinMK> Hello
[23:37] <pnema> hey, I installed an app that uses a library in /usr/local/lib but it doesn't find it. How do you configure your environment to add a library path?
[23:37] <VICODAN> billy_: goto www.speedtest.net
[23:37] <VICODAN> and run a test
[23:37] <ZiauddinMK>  Here goes the update on my work http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249406_1765560375009_1119122224_31475302_3086459_n.jpg , arms need work. , please give me critique on this, I need crit so much!
[23:37] <VICODAN> see what you're speed is
[23:38] <billy_> VICODAN, doing it now
[23:38] <IdleOne> !ot | ZiauddinMK
[23:38] <VICODAN> ZiauddinMK: can you tinyurl that please
[23:38] <IdleOne> VICODAN: it's OT anyway.
[23:38] <VICODAN> word
[23:39] <ZiauddinMK> =[
[23:39] <VICODAN> wtf are you pasting anyway
[23:40] <billy_> VICODAN, 2mbps downlaod speed but im getting about 4kbps
[23:40] <VICODAN> billy_: speedtest.net says 2mbps?
[23:40] <VICODAN> who's your isp
[23:40] <VICODAN> where are you located
[23:40] <VICODAN> UK?
[23:40] <korale_> escott: yeah, ok. I think what may be best is to look at any installed packages that depend on the boost package, uninstall it and install the latest by hand from the site. Thanks anywa!
[23:40] <billy_> england and sorry but  i aint iving you my isp
[23:40] <VICODAN> i already got your isp
[23:41] <VICODAN> threembb.co.uk
[23:41] <billy_> sorry i thought you said ip
[23:41] <VICODAN> i got that too
[23:41] <VICODAN> 94.196.214.24
[23:41] <escott> billy_, thats public info in irc
[23:41] <VICODAN> dont be so paranoid on an irc help channel
[23:41] <IdleOne> billy_: /whois billy_
[23:41] <VICODAN> lol
[23:42] <VICODAN> i think he just shat bricks
[23:42] <billy_> VICODAN, apparently that page dosnt exist
[23:42] <VICODAN> *facepalm*
[23:42] <VICODAN> that's your IP address
[23:42] <VICODAN> FYI
[23:42] <VICODAN> anyways
[23:42] <VICODAN> what's your original problem
[23:43] <VICODAN> your downloads are going 4kbps?
[23:43] <billy_> yeah real slow an i dont really care if you canb get it anyway it obviously dosnt matter
[23:43] <VICODAN> videos load fine
[23:43] <VICODAN> downloads are slow
[23:43] <VICODAN> correct?
[23:43] <VICODAN> and you just went to speedtest.net and it said 2mbps down?
[23:43] <IdleOne> VICODAN: less ENTER, more content :)
[23:44] <VICODAN> IdleOne: sorry
[23:44] <IdleOne> no worries
[23:44] <VICODAN> IdleOne: too much dexedrine
[23:44] <billy_> VICODAN, yep thats it
[23:44] <VICODAN> billy_: where are you trying to download from that you are getting 4kbps?
[23:45] <billy_> software centre the terminal and internet but like that test said i have at least 2mbps
[23:45] <escott> billy_, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-select-fastest-mirror-in-ubuntu.html
[23:45] <VICODAN> so anywhere you download anything from you get 4kbps??
[23:45] <VICODAN> im confused
[23:47] <escott> billy_, the isp wants speedtest to look good so they make sure the speedtest servers are close to their network to ensure that random people who use it see good numbers. to other parts of the internet it may be slower. just pick your closest uk server and see if it gets better
[23:47] <VICODAN> escott: not necessarily true if you're using speedtest.net
[23:47] <billy_> im testing all servers available now to find the fastest
[23:47] <VICODAN> like covad will use speakeasy because they own speakeasy
[23:47] <VICODAN> but it still wont make them look any better
[23:49] <tsikhtronias> from greece?
[23:49] <VICODAN> 2mbps is a pretty terrible down speed to begin with
[23:49] <VICODAN> im also wondering what your upspeed is as well
[23:50] <VICODAN> because that can affect your download rate
[23:50] <tsikhtronias> anyone from greece?
[23:51] <VICODAN> no
[23:51] <VICODAN> why
[23:51] <escott> tsikhtronias, do you need a greek speaking channel?
[23:51] <bullgard4> Why does on a new computer Tilda  not show the »Monospace 6« font as wide as on my old computer having the same vertical pixel number and the same display screen height? http:/paste.ubuntu.com/625488
[23:51] <tsikhtronias> yes please
[23:51] <escott> bullgard4, dpi?
[23:52] <escott> !gr
[23:52] <bullgard4> escott: If the dpi differ, the font's height would differ. But they do not.
[23:53] <bullgard4> s/height/heights/
[23:57] <escott> bullgard4, have you compared screenshots at a pixel by pixel level?
[23:57] <VICODAN> okay my turn for a question now
[23:58] <VICODAN> how do i change the location of the unity dock
[23:58] <bullgard4> escott: No. It is my visual impression. And the difference is so large, that everybody would see it easily.
[23:58] <VICODAN> and the taskbar itself
[23:58] <grubnwb> I have a problem right when my computer is about to load grub it shuts down.
[23:58] <VICODAN> it's really annoying having those bars on the left and the top
[23:58] <semeion> why ops have floodbot nickname?
[23:59] <bullgard4> ¹grub | grubnwb
[23:59] <bullgard4> !grub | grubnwb