| xrdodrx | hey charlie-tca , in relation to that "bug" with the compose key, just in the future you don't even have to change that file by hand, you can just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, which is really nice as it also lets you set Ctrl+Alt+Bksp as the shortcut to kill X and doesn't require a compose key to change the compose key to AltGr :) | 06:30 |
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| xrdodrx | Lionel Le Fogloc brought it up in the bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/795749 | 06:30 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 795749 in Ubuntu "cannot change compose key" [Undecided,Invalid] | 06:30 |
| xrdodrx | doesn't require the X server to be restarted to change the compose key**** | 06:31 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: we should consider switching file-roller with xarchiver since the former is pulling in nautilus now | 09:05 |
| micahg | unfortunately, squeeze is still using thunar-vfs | 09:05 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: ^^ | 09:15 |
| mr_pouit | squeeze isn't really maintained upstream anyway at this time | 11:16 |
| mr_pouit | and xarchiver, ewwww | 11:16 |
| mr_pouit | but we don't have much choice | 11:16 |
| mr_pouit | let's do s/file-roller/xarchiver/ and s/mousepad/leafpad/ | 11:17 |
| ochosi | yay for s/mousepad/leafpad | 11:19 |
| charlie-tca | will that also drop squeeze? | 13:16 |
| mr_pouit | squeeze isn't installed by default | 13:19 |
| charlie-tca | okay. Thanks | 13:20 |
| charlie-tca | A good review of Xfce, and a lot of mention for Xubuntu - | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/456623-weekend-project-find-hidden-treasures-in-xfce-48 | 13:50 |
| mr_pouit | Apparently Ubuntu is "humanity towards others with perfect vision and sharp, high resolution computer monitors." | 14:31 |
| mr_pouit | bwahaha, awesome | 14:31 |
| charlie-tca | I saw that too | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | Seems like I been saying that for a long time | 14:32 |
| mr_pouit | mmh, gnome-sudoku doesn't seem to exist anymore in oneiric, does someone know the new name for it? ;> | 15:32 |
| xrdodrx | mr_pouit, supposed to be gnome-sudoku according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/games/ | 15:34 |
| xrdodrx | Bug? | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | I thought they pulled it because of issues with getting it work in oneiric | 15:34 |
| mr_pouit | - Keep separation of games in subpackages (gnome-sudoku disabled for now) | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | !info gnome-sudoku | 15:34 |
| ubottu | gnome-sudoku (source: gnome-games): Sudoku number puzzle. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu5 (natty), package size 292 kB, installed size 4356 kB | 15:34 |
| mr_pouit | it has been disabled for now | 15:35 |
| === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 | ||
| charlie-tca | Wbsite is down today | 17:19 |
| charlie-tca | Website is down today? | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | what website? | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu.org | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | seems ok to me | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | I get an error | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | clicked through a few pages, no errors here | 17:22 |
| holstein | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://xubuntu.org/ | 17:22 |
| * holstein gives it a thumbs up :) | 17:22 | |
| charlie-tca | I don't understand. I can access anything but xubuntu.org | 17:23 |
| holstein | odd | 17:23 |
| charlie-tca | Must be qwest! | 17:24 |
| charlie-tca | Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect. | 17:24 |
| pleia2 | you're just trying to get out of working on the qa page | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | ;D | 17:25 |
| charlie-tca | Heh, I wish | 17:25 |
| charlie-tca | I just wanted to see what is there | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8QRv41hVYUsJ:www.xubuntu.org/contribute/qa_bugs_testing+http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa_bugs_testing&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com | 17:25 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks. I will have to call my isp tomorrow and get them to fix this | 17:26 |
| charlie-tca | http://imagebin.org/157931 | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | ah, .com | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | do .org | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | .com is definitely broken! | 17:26 |
| charlie-tca | really? | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I get the same error | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | that's no good | 17:27 |
| * charlie-tca slaps head. Of course it is .org | 17:27 | |
| pleia2 | shall I submit an rt ticket? | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | that .org works, too | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know that we own .com. I think we only got .net and .org | 17:28 |
| pleia2 | it's on a canonical server | 17:28 |
| pleia2 | Generated Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:26:46 GMT by jujube.canonical.com (squid/2.7.STABLE7) | 17:28 |
| charlie-tca | yes, then. Maybe the redirect is wrong for it | 17:28 |
| charlie-tca | or missing? | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | .net is broken too | 17:29 |
| charlie-tca | Then the redirects are messed up | 17:29 |
| charlie-tca | I know .net worked, because we redirected about 2 years ago | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | k, sent | 17:31 |
| pleia2 | but they probably hate me, I've been piling on the tickets for problems with ubuntu-news.org too | 17:31 |
| charlie-tca | I am sorry | 17:32 |
| charlie-tca | but, the website team hates me, so it is probably okay | 17:33 |
| Unit193 | I'm free to be hated :D | 17:34 |
| pleia2 | hrm, no email reply with ticket number | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | :-( | 17:34 |
| pleia2 | well, I'll follow up in a couple days | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for doing that | 17:35 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: do you need me to do anything? | 18:47 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: leafpad seems just as dead | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: it is quite as dead | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: it is *NOT* quite as dead | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | so | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | sorry | 18:50 |
| micahg | no new upstream since lucid seems dead | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | um, they just aren't quite as active | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | I think | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | leafpad updates are farther apart than mousepad updates were | 18:51 |
| micahg | ah, there are 2 new upstreams not packaged | 18:53 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: oh, yeah. Mouse pad is really slow to open and close now, leafpad is fast | 18:54 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: at least it uses gtk+ printing | 18:56 |
| mr_pouit | because xfprint4 is pretty useless nowadays, but mousepad is the only one still relying on it | 18:56 |
| micahg | ooh, cool, so another thing we can drop :) | 18:57 |
| mr_pouit | and a few months ago, when I made some patches for mousepad to fix some issues, I ported them for leafpad as well, and they were included upstream | 18:57 |
| mr_pouit | that's why I think it is "alive" | 18:58 |
| micahg | well, they had a release last december, I think that's alive enough | 18:58 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: what will replace xfprint4 ? | 18:59 |
| mr_pouit | nothing | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | or what has? | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | Great! win/win | 18:59 |
| mr_pouit | gtk+ contains a printing api now | 18:59 |
| mr_pouit | since gtk+ 2.10 afaik | 19:00 |
| * micahg thought cairo was used for printing | 19:00 | |
| mr_pouit | micahg: it's probably what's used behind the api ;> | 19:01 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: oh, and for your first question, you can take a merge on the wiki page, if you want :p | 19:02 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: k, will try to get to at least 1 today | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | pleia2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JccH3vUCUz--1FofKmqEr3XODlJIsIYDlrUZyLiYWX4/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=COna2ucP | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | would you prefer plain text? | 19:24 |
| pleia2 | charlie-tca: no that's great! | 19:25 |
| pleia2 | I'll make it into html and post it this afternoon | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. Thanks | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | Page the release notes for Oneiric will be built from: | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/OneiricOcelot/AlphaNotes | 19:35 |
| pleia2 | oh yeah, we missed making an alpha1 post to the site, if we can get someone to write an alpha2 when that comes in a couple weeks I can make sure it gets posted | 19:36 |
| charlie-tca | That's right, we did | 19:36 |
| charlie-tca | we need to get us a news writer, soon, huh? | 19:36 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:49 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: might want to update your template: The main reason for this meeting is to discuss | 22:29 |
| micahg | progress for Natty Narwhal. | 22:29 |
| charlie-tca | where? the meeting reminder? | 22:32 |
| charlie-tca | well... | 22:32 |
| charlie-tca | You read those? | 22:32 |
| Unit193 | I don't think I can make it (I may be ablt to readup and catch the end) | 22:33 |
| * micahg thought it was a good idea to read posts on xubuntu-devel | 22:33 | |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 22:33 |
| charlie-tca | I am glad to know someone reads the posts on The ML | 22:34 |
| charlie-tca | I seem to write a few, it is really good to know someone reads them | 22:34 |
| pleia2 | meeting reminders are good good :) | 22:35 |
| Unit193 | I read all the xubuntu-devel mails | 22:37 |
| plantoschka | is anyone from canonical working on xubuntu or only community? | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | community only | 22:54 |
| micahg | only community (althought some Canonical employees do community work as well) | 22:55 |
| charlie-tca | We are all volunteers | 22:55 |
| plantoschka | you're doing a great job :) | 22:55 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 22:55 |
| plantoschka | how many people ~ are working on xubuntu? | 22:56 |
| charlie-tca | about 19 | 22:56 |
| charlie-tca | looks like | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | It varies with the day. | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | We are all volunteers, so some people come help for a day or two and go away | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | I got 8 or 10 that been here for a long time | 22:58 |
| plantoschka | :) | 22:58 |
| plantoschka | you know how much people are helping for kubuntu, lubuntu? more, less? | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | and many in the community that do help with testing the development releases. | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | I have no idea on other distros | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | Never thought it mattered enough to even find out. | 22:59 |
| plantoschka | i was just interested ;) | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu will still only have so many, regardless of how many any other distro has. | 22:59 |
| plantoschka | i think xubuntu is great but a lot of people see it as a ubuntu version for low-end machines. i use it on my quad and love it :) i think xfce atm is more customizable than unity or gnome3 | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | We would like to change that perception, but it is a long way up to convince them. | 23:01 |
| plantoschka | i think more people are starting to use xubuntu since 11.04 | 23:02 |
| * micahg thinks in time all the Ubuntu flavors will grow their user bases | 23:03 | |
| plantoschka | 200million users to go :-D | 23:04 |
| micahg | well, 180 million to go ;) | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | Let's aim for the first couple hunderd-thousand for Xubuntu, first :-) | 23:05 |
| plantoschka | you know how much people are using xubuntu ? or just how often they downloaded it? | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | nope and nope | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | neither is actually counted/logged | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | We know how many report through popcon | 23:07 |
| plantoschka | think you forgot the 11.10 alpha 1 announcment on the xubuntu homepage | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | We don t usually announce alpha1 there. | 23:11 |
| micahg | not much difference in xubuntu in alpha1, just half the GNOME3 stack :-/ | 23:12 |
| * micahg will be interested to see the size of the live CD tomorrow | 23:12 | |
| pleia2 | charlie-tca: https://www-admin.xubuntu.org/contribute/qa_bugs_testing has now been updated :) | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | Me too | 23:13 |
| micahg | the alternate CD might even be CD sized again | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | w00t! | 23:13 |
| pleia2 | for reference, I backed up the old text here for now: http://princessleia.com/temp/qa-old.html | 23:13 |
| plantoschka | well there was an alpha1 annoncment for 10.10 and 11.04 | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | got it up to date, even! | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | So, in 6 years, we got two announcements for alpha1? | 23:13 |
| pleia2 | oops, sorry for the admin url for that | 23:14 |
| pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa_bugs_testing :) | 23:14 |
| charlie-tca | oops | 23:14 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 23:14 |
| plantoschka | ;) | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | plantoschka: would you like to help ? | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | We really someone to do some publicity for Xubuntu | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | write a blog, write news releases, check reviews others write and track them for us | 23:16 |
| pleia2 | we're down to one xubuntu.org bug \o/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website | 23:16 |
| plantoschka | i wrote some blog posts about the new xubuntu release and how much i liked it (all in german) :-) even did an youtube video. | 23:16 |
| charlie-tca | So you have experience doing it? | 23:17 |
| plantoschka | not much but a lil bit | 23:17 |
| charlie-tca | Great! alpha2 is July 7, and we need a news release ready on that day | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | Can I mark you down to have it for us? | 23:18 |
| plantoschka | i could try ;) | 23:20 |
| plantoschka | sounds not too hard ;) | 23:20 |
| charlie-tca | Great! Thanks for helping with Xubuntu. | 23:22 |
| charlie-tca | pleia2: ^ ^ | 23:22 |
| charlie-tca | plantoschka: you can email that to me ... | 23:23 |
| charlie-tca | charlie-tca AT ubuntu DOT com | 23:23 |
| plantoschka | ok will do that a couple days ahead | 23:24 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks. If you want, remind me and I will get the list of changes together for you. | 23:25 |
| plantoschka | ok that would be great. i wrote it in my calendar so i should not forget :-) | 23:26 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 23:26 |
| plantoschka | no problem i would love to give something back even if it's just a few words for an upcoming release ;) | 23:27 |
| charlie-tca | blogs and news releases are a big item, when you have no one doing them! | 23:28 |
| charlie-tca | Every item helps get word out. | 23:28 |
| plantoschka | time for bed ;) | 23:30 |
| charlie-tca | Good night | 23:31 |
| astraljava | Sorry! Was too focused on packaging, I missed the meeting! :( | 23:57 |
| charlie-tca | It's tomorrow this week | 23:58 |
| astraljava | Oh, so it is. | 23:58 |
| charlie-tca | 19:00 UTC Monday | 23:58 |
| astraljava | :) | 23:58 |
| charlie-tca | I did that just to keep myself confused | 23:58 |
| * charlie-tca thinks it is working too. He is really confused now. | 23:58 | |
| astraljava | Looked at the email, it said 13th of June, looked at the time/date in panel, it said the same. | 23:58 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, one of those time zones ;-) | 23:59 |
| astraljava | Yeah. :D | 23:59 |
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