| yofel | hm, kdepimlibs was somewhat easy compared to kdelibs | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| yofel | what did I forget to do... | 00:02 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: for the new packages, did you start from scratch? | 00:02 |
| shadeslayer | i mean completely new packaging? | 00:02 |
| shadeslayer | ( like i'm thinking of doing for kate ) | 00:03 |
| yofel | more or less yes, I only copied the existing stuff that could be reused | 00:03 |
| yofel | like install files and descriptions | 00:03 |
| yofel | and binary names | 00:03 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 00:03 |
| yofel | still not sure if I should keep the old changelog | 00:03 |
| claydoh | will there be kdepim 4.6 on natty, or is it better to wait | 00:03 |
| yofel | currently I don't | 00:03 |
| shadeslayer | claydoh: ask bulldog98 | 00:03 |
| yofel | there will be, in backports probably | 00:04 |
| yofel | we should make that available for natty | 00:04 |
| yofel | since it's technically part of 4.6.4 | 00:04 |
| claydoh | it is quite good from using it in neon | 00:04 |
| shadeslayer | oh look another user of neon | 00:04 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 00:04 |
| bulldog98 | claydoh: it will it only needs small modification in control | 00:04 |
| yofel | didn't we already know claydoh? ^^ | 00:04 |
| shadeslayer | i didn't | 00:05 |
| yofel | ah, I forgot to take out the kdebase references | 00:05 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: I use neon sometimes too | 00:05 |
| bulldog98 | :) | 00:05 |
| bulldog98 | but mainly from within my normal desktop setup | 00:05 |
| yofel | it is good to know that people use it :P | 00:06 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 00:06 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: you know what | 00:06 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: theres a libplasma2 branch | 00:06 |
| shadeslayer | :> | 00:06 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I even demod it on Linuxtag (marble) | 00:06 |
| claydoh | so, what, I make it user # 3, or 4 ?? | 00:06 |
| yofel | :D | 00:06 |
| bulldog98 | claydoh: more much more :) | 00:06 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: that thing that aseigo started? Didn't read his blog post TBH | 00:07 |
| * shadeslayer suddenly has a very sinister plan | 00:07 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: well i'm going to checkout the branch | 00:07 |
| shadeslayer | my kdelibs clone is probably ancient | 00:07 |
| claydoh | bulldog98: good | 00:07 |
| yofel | claydoh: on the know user count something like 4 ^^ | 00:07 |
| yofel | though the krita blog post should've gotten us some users | 00:07 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: don’t you count yourself as user to? | 00:08 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I even know a debian User using it | 00:09 |
| yofel | erm, if you count us co-maintainers as users then we already have 4 by default ^^ | 00:09 |
| bulldog98 | where will we put KDE PIM 4.6? (PPA) | 00:09 |
| yofel | backports I would say | 00:10 |
| yofel | it's nothing SRU-able, so not for updates | 00:10 |
| yofel | rather handle it as a backport from oneiric (it technically is one) | 00:10 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: we have the others in experimental, but backports sounds good | 00:10 |
| yofel | experimental was for beta and RC, now that it's out backports is reasonable | 00:11 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: was my thought, too | 00:12 |
| * yofel uploads kdepimlibs | 00:13 | |
| bulldog98 | yofel: btw, should we get kdepim 4.6 into archive before 4.7 beta is uploaded? | 00:13 |
| yofel | probably, 4.7 has kdepim 4.7 tars (no idea what's the difference, probably they want to keep it in sync again) | 00:14 |
| yofel | debfx: ^ | 00:14 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: yes they want that | 00:14 |
| * bulldog98 now has backported the kdepim-runtime stuff (see if it works) | 00:15 | |
| yofel | o.O | 00:17 |
| yofel | Unable to obtain lock held by debfx@bazaar.launchpad.net | 00:17 |
| yofel | sounds like something went wrong... "at crowberry [process #15939], acquired 291 hours, 21 minutes ago." | 00:17 |
| * yofel broke the lock | 00:18 | |
| bulldog98 | this will be the next build process: https://launchpad.net/~bulldog98/+archive/staging/+build/2564878 | 00:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: do we still have kde-sc-dev-latest? | 00:22 |
| yofel | we do | 00:22 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 00:22 |
| * bulldog98 still needs to update the pbuilder | 00:33 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: what did you put in : "This package is a part of ... " | 00:37 |
| shadeslayer | KDE ? KDE SC? KDE Frameworks | 00:38 |
| yofel | er, the Kdebindings project I think. Not sure what to put there... | 00:38 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ... what do i put kate under | 00:39 |
| yofel | maybe check what it's under at projects.kde.org | 00:39 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: Frameworks | 00:40 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: ask in #kde-promo | 00:40 |
| yofel | bulldog98: what would smoke belong to? | 00:40 |
| bulldog98 | would be my thought | 00:40 |
| yofel | frameworks too? | 00:40 |
| bulldog98 | I would say so | 00:40 |
| shadeslayer | well its under kdebase | 00:40 |
| shadeslayer | so i'll put it as kdebase | 00:40 |
| bulldog98 | but I’s used to build up libarys -> Framework | 00:41 |
| yofel | sounds reasonable | 00:41 |
| yofel | great copyright entry in kdebindngs... | 00:42 |
| yofel | smoke/ | 00:42 |
| yofel | smoke.h is BSD licensed. | 00:42 |
| yofel | The rest of smoke is quite trivial and autogenerates code with kalyptus | 00:42 |
| yofel | what kind of license description is "quite trivial" o.O | 00:42 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: That means that it’s autogenerated stuff and there by Public Domain (that’s how I would interpret that) | 00:43 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: maybe you should ask the maintainer to clearify that | 00:44 |
| yofel | well, dunno, licensecheck showed a mix of LGPL, GPL and self written stuff | 00:44 |
| yofel | I think I'll first look for docs what a copyright file should contain... | 00:45 |
| * yofel looks through the policy | 00:45 | |
| bulldog98 | for me that sounds like copyright wait | 00:45 |
| bulldog98 | !search pkg-kde-tools | 00:48 |
| ubottu | Found: | 00:48 |
| yofel | !info pkg-kde-tools | 00:49 |
| ubottu | pkg-kde-tools (source: pkg-kde-tools): various packaging tools and scripts for KDE Applications. In component main, is extra. Version 0.9.3ubuntu10 (natty), package size 92 kB, installed size 548 kB | 00:49 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I need to backport them to natty to get it to build | 00:50 |
| bulldog98 | would that be ok? | 00:50 |
| yofel | the new one is in natty-backports | 00:51 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: so I have to enable it | 00:51 |
| yofel | 0.14.0ubuntu1~natty1 0 | 00:51 |
| yofel | 100 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-backports/main amd64 Packages | 00:51 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: is that enabled in the backports ppa? | 00:53 |
| yofel | let me check | 00:53 |
| yofel | hm, nope | 00:54 |
| yofel | rather upload it there, not sure if we want all of the backports enabled there | 00:55 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: ping | 00:55 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I’ll upload to staging and we’ll decide about that later | 00:57 |
| bulldog98 | !info: dblatex | 01:09 |
| bulldog98 | !info dblatex | 01:10 |
| ubottu | dblatex (source: dblatex): Produces DVI, PostScript, PDF documents from DocBook sources. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3-2 (natty), package size 1547 kB, installed size 7336 kB | 01:10 |
| bulldog98 | !info libgrantlee-dev | 01:11 |
| ubottu | libgrantlee-dev (source: grantlee): Grantlee templating library development files. In component main, is extra. Version 0.1.7-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 33 kB, installed size 276 kB | 01:11 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 01:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: you forgot to remove libkatepartinterfaces4.install from kdelibs | 01:18 |
| yofel | I did? | 01:18 |
| shadeslayer | yes, you removed the package from the control file but not the install file | 01:19 |
| shadeslayer | funnily the symbols file is also gone | 01:19 |
| yofel | drat | 01:19 |
| yofel | meh, removed in the package but I forgot to bzr rm -.- | 01:20 |
| yofel | removed | 01:22 |
| shadeslayer | indeed :) | 01:22 |
| * bulldog98 nearly got his pbuilder from natty to oneiric | 01:33 | |
| bulldog98 | btw what about: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development#Kubuntu%20Ninja%20Dojo | 01:34 |
| yofel | sounds about accurate considering what we're doing | 01:35 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: what to do to start to get https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development#Packaging Career up | 01:36 |
| yofel | bulldog98: poke apachelogger, do start by becoming member though | 01:43 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: he seems to be asleep :) | 01:46 |
| yofel | well, if you believe you've contributed enough put yourself up for the next meeting | 01:47 |
| yofel | not sure when it'll be, someone has to organise it | 01:47 |
| shadeslayer | wth | 01:48 |
| shadeslayer | why is this running tests when i told it not to @_@ | 01:49 |
| yofel | hm, did you override dh_auto_test? | 01:49 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 01:49 |
| shadeslayer | wait | 01:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i overrode dh_configure | 01:50 |
| shadeslayer | and added a cmake flag | 01:50 |
| yofel | hm... not sure | 01:50 |
| yofel | I don't touch tests often enough | 01:50 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: whats the binding to read the backlog in screen? | 01:53 |
| shadeslayer | i can't quite find it | 01:53 |
| yofel | hm, I usually use F7 in byobu (copy mode), let me look | 01:54 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: manpage says C-a esc | 01:55 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 01:55 |
| tonio | hey there | 02:26 |
| wgrant | shadeslayer: It's upgraded on most of LP, but not the buildds yet. | 02:29 |
| shadeslayer | wgrant: any ETA on that? | 03:14 |
| === tazz_ is now known as tazz | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: poke | 07:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: if i understand this correctly, after creating the adaptor class is simply instantiate a object of the adaptor class and pass the dbus interface as the parent? | 07:34 |
| shadeslayer | +to the object | 07:34 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: thats an interesting mail. Good reasons for postponement. | 09:10 |
| Mamarok | is packaging KDEPIM 4.6 in the pipeline already? | 10:42 |
| Mamarok | it should have been released with KDE 4.6.4 normally, so I wonder why it is not there yet | 10:45 |
| jussi | Mamarok: I think shadeslayer finished/is working on it. | 10:45 |
| Mamarok | OK, thanks | 10:45 |
| yofel | bulldog98 was working on it, he should be done today | 10:46 |
| debfx | yofel: which branch had a lock? | 11:09 |
| yofel | kdepimlibs | 11:12 |
| yofel | happened to me too once when I had connection issues, so I assumed the same considering how old the lock was | 11:13 |
| debfx | yeah, I still have unpushed changes locally :( | 11:15 |
| === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot | ||
| apachelogger | do we have kdepim 4.6.0 yet? | 11:43 |
| yofel | poke bulldog98, he said he was almost finished IIRC | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | ah, there is something about personal staging ppa in the backlog | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: also, before applying for membership you should collect endorsments on your wiki page | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | we should do this a lot more | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | makes so much sense | 11:45 |
| yofel | what does one need to do to become a kubuntu-dev anyway? Not that I consider myself ready yet. | 11:47 |
| jussi | can has this in kubuntu? http://is.gd/2BPjoi | 11:48 |
| ulysses | jussi: I hust tried it | 12:11 |
| ulysses | just* | 12:12 |
| jussi | ulysses: and how did it go? | 12:17 |
| ulysses | jussi: fine, I had to install python-kde4-dev, python-kde4-dev and python-kde4-dev to install, and python-parted to run Quickformat | 12:19 |
| ulysses | bah | 12:19 |
| ulysses | pyqt4-dev-tools, python-kde4-dev and intltool | 12:19 |
| jussi | why the -dev stuff? | 12:20 |
| ulysses | probably python-kde4 is good instead of python-kde4-dev | 12:20 |
| ulysses | jussi: it's Python, it missed some stuff, and apt-file find those in the packages above | 12:21 |
| JontheEchidna | agateau: ping | 13:31 |
| ScottK | yofel: kdepim 4.6 is NOT part of 4.6.4. It's a feature release that happened to occur at the same time. | 13:32 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer and yofel: I'd just say it's all part of KDE. The rest is nonsense, IMO. | 13:33 |
| ScottK | yofel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers | 13:34 |
| yofel | well, they sure made it sound like that though since it's only the 4.6.4 announcement page. Even if it's not part of it | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | who is part of KDE? | 13:35 |
| yofel | and users don't make much of a difference there | 13:36 |
| * apachelogger points out the page titles in favor of kdepim | 13:36 | |
| apachelogger | it was nothing more than the june *release day* | 13:36 |
| jussi | apachelogger: how is the board going? | 13:37 |
| ScottK | yofel: Then we should make the difference clear. Particularly since you can't downgrade from kdepim 4.6 back to 4.4. | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | jussi: sleeping | 13:41 |
| jussi | heh | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | like me | 13:42 |
| * apachelogger should be working on assignments but cannot find the motivation | 13:42 | |
| yofel | ScottK: I'll write a post for the website later, that should belong there, right | 13:44 |
| ScottK | yofel: Yes. | 13:44 |
| ScottK | Please make it two different news items so it's clear to people. | 13:44 |
| yofel | I'll make a new one for kdepim, yes | 13:45 |
| ScottK | Riddell: How does one arrange to get added to planet.kde.org? | 13:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: one can ask me or anyone else with an svn account to add the blog | 13:46 |
| Riddell | needs feed URL, IRC nick, hackergotchi | 13:46 |
| ScottK | OK. Let me gather that up. | 13:46 |
| ScottK | Is the hackergotchi required? | 13:46 |
| ScottK | I don't have one of those. | 13:47 |
| Riddell | nope | 13:47 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 13:47 |
| Riddell | but then we could not gase upon your lovely face :( | 13:47 |
| yofel | most don't have one, I didn't add one either | 13:47 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| Riddell | I think it's important on a site intended to build community that you get to see who the other community members are | 13:50 |
| yofel | need to figure out how to make the background transparent then, been a while since I used gimp | 13:51 |
| Daviey | ScottK / Riddell: Fear not! http://bootie.daviey.com/~dave/scottk.png | 14:01 |
| Riddell | Daviey: genius! | 14:02 |
| ScottK | Oh dear. Let's not. | 14:04 |
| Daviey | ScottK: I think i have one taken from one of the bars in Budapest... maybe that would be better :) | 14:05 |
| ScottK | There all painfully bad. | 14:06 |
| ScottK | There/They're | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: go make a better one then :P | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | either way you'll end up with some pic | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | and I for one think the more ludicrous a hackergotchi is the better :P | 14:50 |
| yofel | you don't have one either :P | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | because the planets always loose it | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | what planet are we talking about anyway | 14:51 |
| yofel | KDE | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | rdieter_work: also, can I get on the fedora planet? | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | yofel: oh yeah, that definitely got lost by Riddell in one of his reinvention of the planet changes | 14:52 |
| yofel | heh | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | ever since I was too lazy to push up a nu one, so if anyone feels motivated... | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | https://picasaweb.google.com/valorie.zimmerman/RandaSwitzerlandKDESprint#5615188975802310450 | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | here, that you can use | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | then I can also get on planet fedora | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | muahhahaaha | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | hey there | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you look like Darth Vader | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | only without the mask and everything | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | it is a good thing | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | kent beck said | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | the red eye is *just* right | 14:54 |
| yofel | hahaha | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | and the fellowship of the java sighed | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | one may note that the green shirt I was waering was of the graet empire of opensuseeee | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you tried to takeover suse? | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: did you see the message i left you? | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | about the adaptor class | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: i have a even better one which explains why they are not putting it in debian yet | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | my gimp is kaput | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | how unfortunately | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | -ly | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | meh. | 15:02 |
| rdieter_work | apachelogger: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet_HowTo , hrm, though that requires one to be a fedora contributor (have an account, yada yada, I'll ask around if we can get around that) | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | rdieter_work: great, thanks :) | 15:05 |
| rdieter_work | apachelogger: ok, I'll take care of it, what's the feed you want to add? | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | rdieter_work: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/category/kde/feed/?mrss=off&category_name=kde | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I have a blank cursor theme :P | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you dont have a hackergotchi on planetkde plz fix | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i don't have a hackergotchi ... | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | make one then | 15:17 |
| rdieter_work | speaking of that, apachelogger do you have a hackergotchi I could use for your feed? | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | rdieter_work: working on that right now | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | will find one later | 15:17 |
| rdieter_work | ok | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | not terribly easy without the gimpster :D | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | lol someone searched kdroidslayer xD | 15:18 |
| yofel | yeah, because you have too many power outages :P | 15:19 |
| === tazz_ is now known as tazz | ||
| yofel | can't you connect you notebook over your android? | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | yes i can, but i don't have a data plan on the phone right now | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | i used to do that when i had free 3G | 15:20 |
| yofel | ah | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | the phone gets really really hot | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | add a fan | 15:21 |
| yofel | yeah, I can't get more than 4h or so out of my n900 either when using bluetooth :/ | 15:21 |
| yofel | lol | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | that would make for a good quote | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | like "good thing I got me usb phone in the pocket" | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer could go for something like "good that my phone has a fan, I can even use it on mars" | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | sure as long as my provider covers Mars | 15:22 |
| * apachelogger is listening to mgmt | 15:24 | |
| apachelogger | really loud | 15:24 |
| * yofel listens to the rain falling outside | 15:25 | |
| apachelogger | do we haz good picture of me? | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | good = supreme ludicrous | 15:25 |
| yofel | the one with the rabbit outfit? | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer | fooey | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/wLigMF7L | 15:26 |
| yofel | or what was that again... | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | how do you know about the rabbit outfit? :O | 15:26 |
| yofel | dunno, didn't we show a pic with you and martin around all the time? | 15:27 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: I recognise a lot on that list :P | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | ah | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | right | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | that could work | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | yofel: that was a disney princess unicorn though | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: well alot of them are dupes, but the main isssue is why is everything going into /usr/local | 15:27 |
| yofel | ah ^^ | 15:28 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: uh yeah... you are using debian-qt-kde.mk? | 15:28 |
| * shadeslayer looks for appropriate CMakeFlags | 15:28 | |
| shadeslayer | /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/debian-qt-kde.mk yes | 15:28 |
| yofel | ... | 15:28 |
| yofel | then I'm clueless | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | oh i thought i made a mistake or sth :P | 15:29 |
| yofel | well, *something*'s obviously wrong... | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | well : kate-4.6.80/kate/plugins/katebuild-plugin/plugin_katebuild.cpp has : 68:static const QString DefConfigCmd = "cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local ../"; | 15:33 |
| * apachelogger reinstalls the gimpster in hopes of getting it to work | 15:33 | |
| apachelogger | :O | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | our gtk theme breaks gimp!!! | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: halp! | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1746905.html | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | works for me on neon | 15:35 |
| yofel | oddly enough I can't reproduce that... gimp works fine here | 15:36 |
| yofel | with oxygen-gtk and raster | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | albeit it looks horrible | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: have you tried out libplasma2 yet? | 15:36 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: what does libplasma2 break? | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i can't get it to compile yet | 15:37 |
| yofel | heh | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | it fails at 97 % :> | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | perhaps I did | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | perhaps I did not | 15:41 |
| CIA-31 | sitter * 1236532 * trunk/www/sites/planet/ (planetkde/config website/images/apachelogger.jpg) add hackergotchi | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | who the hell made nano my svn ci editor | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | ewwww | 15:44 |
| * apachelogger almost did not get out of it again | 15:44 | |
| CIA-31 | sitter * 1236533 * trunk/www/sites/planet/website/ (hackergotchi/apachelogger.jpg images/apachelogger.jpg) move to right dir actually | 15:46 |
| yofel | fooey, oneiric doesn't like nfs... | 15:46 |
| yofel | [19526.732865] mount.nfs4[24338]: segfault at 0 ip 00140f8f sp bfa5e150 error 4 in libc-2.13.so[110000+15b000] | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | use a proper fs | 15:48 |
| yofel | well, installing sshfs now | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | I said a proper fs :P | 15:48 |
| rdieter_work | apachelogger: feed added, welcome aboard | 15:48 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I'm open for suggestions :P | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | rdieter_work: yay, thanks, hackergotchi for now: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/apachelogger.jpg | 15:49 |
| rdieter_work | apachelogger: nice! | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | :D | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | yofel: cifs | 15:50 |
| rdieter_work | apachelogger: should I use that url, or copy that somewhere? | 15:51 |
| yofel | hm, I do have samba running on my server actually... | 15:51 |
| * rdieter_work made a copy, holler if I should do otherwise. | 15:51 | |
| === ximion1 is now known as ximion | ||
| apachelogger | rdieter_work: copy is the way to go i believe | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 16:17 |
| shadeslayer | "zsh: correct 'kubuntu' to 'ubuntu' [nyae]? " | 16:17 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: what? | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: was pulling a branch with kubuntu in the branch name | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | zsh suggested i change it to ubuntu :P | 16:18 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: we have to fix that | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | hmm? | 16:19 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, :-D | 16:23 |
| === ximion2 is now known as ximion | ||
| yofel | cifs setup done, works nice :) | 16:29 |
| === maco2 is now known as maco | ||
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: file a bug "zsh discriminating against kubuntu" | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | critical | 16:38 |
| === ximion1 is now known as ximion | ||
| apachelogger | so | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | where is me KDEPIM 4.6.0 :P | 16:41 |
| * apachelogger is dying with geeemail | 16:41 | |
| yofel | bulldog98: ^ | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | interestingly only reproducible on yofel's thinkpad | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | supposedly you need to have some sort of dict installed | 16:43 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: nearly finished | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | some dicts actually do that kubuntu->ubuntu thing because someone did not bother to add kubuntu | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | The replies in this thread keep getting smaller : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/2011-June/010565.html | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | i wonder whats next | 16:43 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: use kdepim 4.5.96 in the meanwhile | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | well it is about busybox, only suitable to have small replies too :P | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: I do not like broken software :P | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: 4.5.96 isn't broken | 16:44 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: Imo it’s not broken | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: use Neon + KDE PIM | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | not broken as well | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | broken enough to not cope with the 3000000000 billion mails I have | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: where your current neon fails: I do not want all of kde from trunk | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | current KDE Trunk = KDE 4.6.8x which is what our PPA's will have soonish | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | and for some reason i have DCMAKE_INSTALL_PATH=/usr while building | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | no idea where that comes form | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | *from | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | wha? | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: packaging kate, for some reason we have DCMAKE_INSTALL_PATH=/usr while building | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | why yes | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | that is supposed to be?!?!?! | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | what else would it be? | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | but then it installs files to /usr/local/bin | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | and such | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | what?!? | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/wLigMF7L | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | then it is not building with CMAKE_INSTALL_PATH=/usr | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | cd obj-x86_64-linux-gnu | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debian -DCMAKE_USE_RELATIVE_PATHS=ON -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=false "-DKDE_DISTRIBUTION_TEX | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | T=Kubuntu packages" | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | erm prefix i mean | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | not install path | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | please get a complete build log | 16:50 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'd need better raw material to work with. | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/images/2008/04/26/entourage_day_fkers_2.jpg | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: le build log http://paste.ubuntu.com/625960/ | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | btw : http://cgit.collabora.com/git/user/gkiagia | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you do not make sense | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that buildlog does not match what your earlier list-missing had | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | oh yes indeed ... nvm me | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | looks like everything fixed itself | 16:56 |
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| * apachelogger shakes head | 16:57 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: where is that file? /opt/project-neon/share/project-neon/environment.rc | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | what file? | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | /opt/project-neon/share/project-neon/environment.rc | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | i don't understand the questiom | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | s/m/n | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | in what package is that file | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | project-neon-session i'd guess | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | no it's in -common | 17:01 |
| * apachelogger is lead to believe that one should not run neon's kmail against the regular akonadi server | 17:03 | |
| apachelogger | completely broke | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | n | 17:04 |
| shadeslayer | well obviously | 17:04 |
| shadeslayer | thats why we use our own SQL Server in /opt/project-neon/bin/mysqld-akonadi | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | smartass | 17:08 |
| * apachelogger gives linaro on mx53 another shot | 17:09 | |
| shadeslayer | if everything goes as planned, i'll be getting a faster internet connection in a couple of days \o/ | 17:11 |
| ScottK | Up to 56K now? | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | lol ^^ | 17:12 |
| === m4n1sh is now known as manish | ||
| ScottK | Oh? Less? | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | i still have a US Robotics modem lying around here somewhere ^_^ | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: nah, 1Mbps during the night, 600 Kbps during the day | 17:12 |
| bulldog98 | expect kdepim within the next hour | 17:32 |
| mfraz74 | is there a package to replace klamav in natty/oneiric? | 17:33 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 17:36 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: hum.... I can't say I'm satisfied with kdepim in it's current state, but it looks like I can manage to work with it | 17:36 |
| Tonio_ | which means.... I think I'm back :) | 17:37 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 17:37 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: kdesudo needs merging from Debian unless debfx did it recently. OdyX made a new upstream release while you were gone (mostly incorporating our distro patches). | 17:38 |
| Tonio_ | hum I don't get it, merging from debian ? do they package it now ? | 17:39 |
| ScottK | Yes | 17:40 |
| ScottK | They use alternatives instead of dpkg-divert, but other than that the packaging is very similar. | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | we do not use dpkg-divert either!? | 17:40 |
| ScottK | Or maybe i have it backwards. | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | perhaps | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | divert broke all the time | 17:41 |
| Tonio_ | I don't remember why but there was a good reason not to use alternatives on that one | 17:42 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: I see there's a new --desktop option for name and icon... is that for gnome support ? | 17:43 |
| * ScottK looks at apachelogger. | 17:43 | |
| apachelogger | if I remembered, that would be good | 17:43 |
| Tonio_ | who would use kdesudo with gnome ? :) | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: I think we introduced that while you were still around, to get name and icon from a desktop file | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | in general | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | not just gnome | 17:44 |
| Tonio_ | hum.... nope I wasn't arround for sure, that's the latest addition to it | 17:44 |
| Tonio_ | afaicr name and icon was working before that.... anyway, as long as it works | 17:44 |
| Tonio_ | ohhhhhhhhhhh that's to override ! | 17:45 |
| Tonio_ | fine then | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: oh, perhaps we were looking for it manually within kdesudo, so that --desktop allows for arbitary files | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | supposedly there is a use case for that ^^ | 17:45 |
| Tonio_ | man page is outdated.... I'll have to fix this | 17:45 |
| mfraz74 | Any idea what's happening with https://launchpad.net/clamav-kde? | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | !find qemu-arm-static | 17:46 |
| ubottu | File qemu-arm-static found in qemu-user-static | 17:46 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: also, I found a kresource for caldav support, which is pretty nice, except it won't work with the akonadi>kresource compatibility layer | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: ScottK will know | 17:46 |
| Tonio_ | those compatibility layers shouldn't exist anyway :) | 17:46 |
| mfraz74 | ScottK: Any ideas? | 17:47 |
| Tonio_ | I just hope kresource will be droped one day to get something a non kde developper can eventually configure :) | 17:47 |
| ScottK | mfraz74: Nothing. It was started awhile ago by a former Kubuntu developer. | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | should i also split stuff like kate-dev and ktexteditor-dev ? | 17:47 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Maybe steveire knows who you should talk to about that? perhaps it's known and being worked on. | 17:48 |
| mfraz74 | oh, then there is no AV packages for Natty onwards? | 17:48 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: I really hope so | 17:49 |
| bambee | evening | 17:50 |
| * bambee is overbooked until the 23th june.... :'( | 17:50 | |
| bambee | but then I am on vacation => so kde+kubuntu contributions during 2/3 months :D | 17:50 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: I'm at work right now, I'll check for kdesudo toonight | 17:50 |
| Tonio_ | a little merge is fine to restart doing things | 17:50 |
| bambee | shadeslayer: the wetab is very expensive in france btw... I will wait a bit o_O | 17:51 |
| ScottK | Great. | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: oh .. :( | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: btw i might be coming to Paris :P | 17:51 |
| bambee | I need more money and then I will buy a wetab :p | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | it seems its quite cheap for me to go from DEL to PAR and take a train from there to Berlin | 17:52 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: maybe you should introduce me to new active members :) | 17:52 |
| ScottK | mfraz74: I have a vague recollection that clamtk may also have some kind of a kde front end. perhaps it just needs some packaging work. In any case it ought to work fine from KDE. | 17:52 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: I don't know who they are, and they never about me so.... :) | 17:52 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: You remember apachelogger, right? | 17:52 |
| Tonio_ | they never *heard* | 17:52 |
| mfraz74 | ScottK: installing now | 17:52 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: kinda, indeed :) | 17:52 |
| Tonio_ | haha | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the busybox thread got smaller ... | 17:53 |
| ScottK | Perhaps he can introduce you around? I am at the airport and it's getting close to boarding time. | 17:53 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: seriously, who are the people who came into contributing in the last 12/15 month ? | 17:53 |
| Tonio_ | kk | 17:53 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: ;) | 17:53 |
| ScottK | If not, I'll do some introductions this evening after I arrive. | 17:54 |
| Tonio_ | no pb | 17:56 |
| yofel | Tonio_: I vagulely remember seeing you around from time to time a while ago, what were you doing originally? ^^ | 17:59 |
| Tonio_ | at the start of kubuntu, I didn appart from the coding, what jriddell did, aka packaging kde | 18:00 |
| Tonio_ | then I started to do less as we were more people to work on kubuntu, and finally nothing | 18:00 |
| ScottK | Tonio_ goes WAAAAY back with Kubuntu. | 18:00 |
| * ScottK sees an airplane with his name on it. Talk with you all later. | 18:01 | |
| Tonio_ | but seriously, I was more of less fucissing on kdepim/bluetooth/testing/qa/default-settings and many other things | 18:01 |
| yofel | well, GOOD to see another packager here now that we're without jr currently | 18:01 |
| Tonio_ | I stopped almost a year and a half ago, because I couldn't work with kde | 18:01 |
| maco | hiya Tonio_! | 18:01 |
| yofel | heh, about the time I started hanging out here ^^ | 18:02 |
| Tonio_ | and I didn't have any motivation to work on a project I didn't believe in | 18:02 |
| Tonio_ | now looking at the mess gnome3 is, and not liking unity... I think it's time to come back to kde, and contribute again | 18:02 |
| yofel | hehe | 18:02 |
| Tonio_ | what I'll do ? I dunno I must say, it'll depend on the needs :) | 18:02 |
| maco | Tonio_: Riddell has left us for Bazaar for the next six months | 18:03 |
| yofel | Tonio_: I believe you'll find something if you look at the 4.6.80 todo list :P | 18:03 |
| Tonio_ | so about the background... it changed a lot :) | 18:03 |
| maco | Tonio_: todo list is here http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | 18:03 |
| yofel | Tonio_: as for me, I'm currently doing packaging work and take care of the announcements on kubuntu.org | 18:03 |
| maco | need to figure out how to resituate that diagonal line to match the full set of blueprints... | 18:03 |
| Tonio_ | yofel: you may find out some inputs from me in all kde packages we have if you look at the very bottom actually :) | 18:04 |
| JontheEchidna | Tonio_: off the top of my head, we now have yofel, Quintasan, shadeslayer and debfx packaging. DarkwingDuck is the new docs guy, bambee is the python master, sheytan is doing artwork | 18:04 |
| Tonio_ | quite frightening to come back after such a long time.... many things have changed | 18:04 |
| Tonio_ | I'm probable a lot outdated from a technical perspective :) | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | i've seen you in the changelogs quite a bit ^_^ | 18:04 |
| Tonio_ | yofel: nice to meet you yofel :) | 18:04 |
| bambee | JontheEchidna: I am not a python master but a python programmer, and I love c++ too :P | 18:04 |
| bambee | ;) | 18:04 |
| JontheEchidna | Tonio_: you might be shocked looking at a modern debian/rules file :P | 18:04 |
| maco | and as i wasnt doing anything helpful for kubuntu when i met Tonio_, should probably say what im doing now too :P i'm being kubuntu's accessibility taskmaster | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | oh yeah | 18:04 |
| Tonio_ | yofel: oh, and I'm a core-dev, which can help to upload/.review in main :) | 18:05 |
| yofel | well, we just merged a new package build system from debian (dhmk replacing cdbs), so you're coming at a good time ^^ | 18:05 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: I did quite a bit of debhelper 7 anyway :) | 18:05 |
| maco | JontheEchidna: i <3 new debian/rules! | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ lol | 18:05 |
| Tonio_ | maco: got it :) | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | everyone loves dhmk | 18:05 |
| Tonio_ | who else left the team ? what about jonathan jesse ? jonathan tomas ? luka renko ? | 18:06 |
| JontheEchidna | dhmk == what everybody calls "dh7", right? | 18:06 |
| yofel | well yeah, qt-kde teams idea of dh7 | 18:06 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm Jonathan Thomas ;-) | 18:06 |
| maco | Tonio_: shtylman's gone | 18:06 |
| JontheEchidna | jjesse is still plugging along with docs | 18:06 |
| Tonio_ | too bad ! I loved the guy | 18:06 |
| maco | JontheEchidna: well, when he's not got his head in the books | 18:06 |
| JontheEchidna | luka isn't contributing anymore, unfortunately :( | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | i've never heard of luka renko :P | 18:06 |
| maco | Tonio_: nixternal's spending most of his time on a bicycle these days | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ yeah, every morning i get a bike tweet | 18:07 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: he was our digikam guy | 18:07 |
| Tonio_ | rodderick still arround ? | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | Tonio_: yep | 18:07 |
| Tonio_ | cool | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | he's working on mobile stuff now | 18:07 |
| JontheEchidna | rod's been busy with work lately, but still comes around from time to time | 18:07 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, rbelem is also new. He's the kubuntu-mobile master | 18:08 |
| Tonio_ | introduction to what is dhmk ? | 18:08 |
| Tonio_ | something specific to us ? generic debian packaging ? never heard about | 18:08 |
| yofel | Tonio_: dh7 wrapping from the debian qt-kde team | 18:08 |
| yofel | see pkg-kde-tools >= 0.12 | 18:08 |
| Tonio_ | I may need to pratice a bit on packaging.... looks like cdbs went out for good :) | 18:09 |
| JontheEchidna | http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2011-March/001571.html | 18:09 |
| JontheEchidna | framework around dh7, it would seem | 18:09 |
| Tonio_ | my god.... looks like I'm a noob ) | 18:10 |
| * yofel doesn't quite get it either... | 18:10 | |
| yofel | at least not the library part, esp. libdlrestrictions | 18:10 |
| Tonio_ | can you type in "^^" | 18:11 |
| Tonio_ | looks like I can't with qt apps... | 18:12 |
| JontheEchidna | libdlrestrictions helps prevent bad things from happening when a KDE .so plugin cannot be loaded due to missing symbols, is what I gather | 18:12 |
| Tonio_ | bug ? | 18:12 |
| JontheEchidna | ^^ | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: don't worry about the dhmk stuff, debian kde likes to switch the packaging magic around every 6 months now ^^ | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | jussi, persia: ping ping ping ping | 18:12 |
| yofel | well, the KDE team likes to switch the release layout around ever 6 months too from now on for a while... | 18:13 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I'll have to learn, no big deal... I did it once, I can do it again | 18:13 |
| yofel | *every | 18:13 |
| Tonio_ | it's more like, what is maintained over bzr what's not and so on | 18:13 |
| Tonio_ | so.... I probably ask a LOT OF QUESTIONS in the next days/weeks | 18:13 |
| Tonio_ | sorry in advance ;) | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | uh, sure, questions are good :D | 18:14 |
| yofel | well, most of KDE is in bzr, ah, the branches are lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kdelibs/ubuntu now, etc. | 18:14 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: believe me, I'll end up beeing boring :) | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | that is ... *all* of core KDE (aka KDE software compilation) is in bzr | 18:14 |
| Tonio_ | kk | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | jussi, persia, Quintasan: http://i.imgur.com/vSMuw.jpg | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | !!! | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | look at username :D :D | 18:15 |
| * apachelogger rolls awesomeness | 18:15 | |
| Tonio_ | checked kde4libs rules file.... indeed, I'm a noob :) | 18:15 |
| JontheEchidna | you gonna get kubuntu on that now that your kernel works? | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: you know, it would be really very terrificly cool if the kubuntu arm squad could get arm ppas :S | 18:15 |
| * yofel doesn't have a arrrrm board :/ | 18:16 | |
| shadeslayer | ^^ me neither ;) | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: 45% | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | also I need faster sd cards | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | those class 4 are killing me | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | everything takes forever | 18:17 |
| yofel | use eatmydata :P | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | uh | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | !info eatmydata | 18:18 |
| ubottu | eatmydata (source: libeatmydata): library and utilities designed to disable fsync and friends. In component universe, is optional. Version 26-2 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 76 kB | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: pingo | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | yofel: it is not just the writing | 18:18 |
| yofel | ah | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | in particular the reading is the problem | 18:18 |
| sheytan | apachelogger spongebob schwammkopf! | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: the david mentioned that your design is missing language selection, session selection and the like | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | see his latest mail to kubuntu-devel | 18:19 |
| sheytan | show me | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | lists.ubuntu.com | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | just take a look at the k-d archives | 18:20 |
| Tonio_ | hum one question.... who is member of the kcc now ? | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: it is KC these days ... that would be Riddell, ScottK, neversfelde, JontheEchidna, DarkwingDuck and I | 18:21 |
| Tonio_ | k I don't know about DarkwingDuck, but the other yep | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck is new documentation overlord, ever since nixternal doesn't have time anymore because he is cycling through all of northern america | 18:22 |
| Tonio_ | oki doki | 18:23 |
| Tonio_ | hum, can anyone type in ^ in kde apps ? that's pretty annoying actually :) | 18:23 |
| yofel | anyone tried it kmail1 can still be used after trying kdepim 4.6? (With the same home folder I mean) | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | yes | 18:24 |
| yofel | s/it/if/ | 18:24 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "anyone tried if kmail1 can still be used after trying kdepim 4.6? (With the same home folder I mean)" | 18:24 |
| maco | Tonio_: not a problem here... | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: supposedly you have some weird keyboard layout? | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | with dead keys or what they call it | 18:24 |
| Tonio_ | ok that's a problem with console-setup actually | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | ^ acts as modifier on those layouts IIRC | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | so that poor fellas like me can make accents :D | 18:24 |
| yofel | right (at least for the german one) | 18:24 |
| maco | i can use it as a modifier if i altgr then hit it then a letter ( ê ) but i can use it alone if i avoid altgr too | 18:25 |
| * apachelogger waits for stuff to install | 18:25 | |
| maco | also altgr with it then a space makes it show as normal too ^ | 18:25 |
| sheytan | Did i mention I hate reading MLs? | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | it is like watching .prn if you think about it | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | people getting all dirty and then poking each other until one of them gives up on their argument | 18:28 |
| * DarkwingDuck grins | 18:30 | |
| DarkwingDuck | MLs aren't that bad. | 18:30 |
| sheytan | apachelogger i don't see anything about the session button | 18:31 |
| sheytan | but, it's all ready todo ;) | 18:31 |
| sheytan | DarkwingDuck: did you get the kubuntu website code from dropbox? | 18:31 |
| yofel | would actually be nice if it would show which session you're going to login to | 18:32 |
| yofel | if you switch sessions a lot you get confused easily | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | oh right | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | apparenlty he spammed me directly | 18:32 |
| yofel | gdm is actually rather nice in that aspect | 18:32 |
| sheytan | yofel good point | 18:32 |
| sheytan | ill try to include that in the nice way and i already know how :D | 18:33 |
| jussi | apachelogger: hehe | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: Note that your mockup is missing: keyboard selection, language | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | selection, session selection and suspend/hibernate. | 18:33 |
| yofel | it happens to be quite often that I login to neon just because it was the last session I was in | 18:33 |
| sheytan | apachelogger there's sleep button | 18:33 |
| sheytan | language will be added with the session stuff | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | sleep!=hibernation | 18:33 |
| sheytan | apachelogger then we change the text :D | 18:33 |
| yofel | make it hibernate when you press shift as winxp did it :P | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | I mean, it is a non-brainer, just add another button to the list | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: no no | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | they are 2 different concepts | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | there is suspend-to-ram | 18:34 |
| sheytan | and hdd right? | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | which is when your machine is sleeping and the power light is usually blinking | 18:34 |
| sheytan | what's the difference? | 18:34 |
| sheytan | ah | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | whereas suspedn-to-hdd everything is stored on the hdd and the machine is completely out | 18:34 |
| yofel | sheytan: suspend to disk flushes your RAM to swap and actually powers the pc off | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | essentially for the latter a complete copy of your RAM is made and stored on the disk | 18:35 |
| sheytan | apachelogger then we add new button "hibernate", right? | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | aye | 18:35 |
| sheytan | good | 18:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | sheytan: I looked at it but, I'll be pulling to today. | 18:35 |
| sheytan | let me get some coockies and maybe coffee or beer and start working on it. | 18:35 |
| yofel | make sure the button is hidden if you can't hibernate (upower tells you that) | 18:35 |
| sheytan | yofel it's like the technical side of fun. Not artwork ;) | 18:36 |
| sheytan | brb | 18:36 |
| yofel | true | 18:36 |
| yofel | but the page shouldn't look bad if the button is missing | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | yofel: the buttons are stored in a row | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | you can add/remove stuff without much effort | 18:37 |
| yofel | sure, and as long as they're properly centered I'm happy :) | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | that is what the row is for | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | it is really just if (DM.canHibernate()) | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | around the hibernate button | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | and equally for every other action | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | minding that one can disallow shutdown from DM | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | e.g. in a thin-client use case one might want to do that | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | jussi: I can give you instructions on linaro sd, seem more straight forward | 18:39 |
| jussi | apachelogger: dont stress, mine works now :) | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | kk | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:40 |
| Quintasan | jussi: gcking freescale | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | I should document it anyway I suppose | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | to the wikis | 18:40 |
| jussi | lol | 18:40 |
| jussi | apachelogger: yes please | 18:40 |
| Quintasan | WHY THE HELL IT IS SO HARD FOR THEM TO GIVE ME A DAMN PAYMENT CONFIRMATION | 18:40 |
| JontheEchidna | not enough capslock | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | I capslocked them like three times | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: I told you, there should be one in the package | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: did i forward you the latest reply from blink people? | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | No, jokes aside | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: PROTIP: They can't open it lol? | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | "Policy" they call it | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | you go there | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | open it | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | If they could I wouldn't be whining and calling Freescale | 18:42 |
| * Quintasan is going to call them tomorrow once again | 18:43 | |
| shadeslayer | ah yes, you're CC'd in there | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: This package is part of the KDE 4 base applications module. << best description | 18:46 |
| yofel | asking again: did anyone check if kdepim1 still works with the same home folder that 4.6 was used with once? | 18:46 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: that sounds nice | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | yep, for everything that is grouped under Base/ | 18:46 |
| apachelogger | yofel: why does it matter? | 18:46 |
| apachelogger | downgrades are not supported eitherway | 18:47 |
| yofel | apachelogger: just wondering how to word the notice that we don't support downgrades | 18:47 |
| yofel | guess I'll keep it short | 18:47 |
| * apachelogger really wants the wiki to die | 18:47 | |
| * yofel agrees | 18:47 | |
| * shadeslayer hands apachelogger the stick of doom | 18:47 | |
| apachelogger | yofel: DO NO UPGRADEOR YOU ARE DOOMED | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | yofel: do we have packages yet? | 18:48 |
| yofel | apachelogger: runtime yes, bulldog98 said he's almost done with pim | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | we need more tests | 18:48 |
| yofel | bulldog98: ETA? | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | everyone should break their setup | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | if that does not highlight grave issues we can advertise the packages | 18:48 |
| yofel | well, I have no kmail1 data, so can't test much | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | otherwise I'd really not do it | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | 4.0.0 might hit again | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | kate ~done | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | hahah ^^ | 18:49 |
| yofel | the debian folks compared it to 4.1 | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | also was bad enough | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | iirc i used to break my system every 2 days on KDE 4.0.0 | 18:49 |
| yofel | seems like they had some issues | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | anyhow, all I am saying is ... we should not advertise it until we know that it works sensibly | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | pim data is too precious to get lost in the battle | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | that said, steveire, is there a tool to perhaps backup stuff before migrating to the new pim? | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | i would *still* put them in experimental | 18:50 |
| yofel | ok, I'll make the warning bigger | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | have wider testing for 3-4 weeks and then migrate | 18:50 |
| yofel | apachelogger: according to the announcement on kde website the akonadi conversion leaves the old data intact | 18:50 |
| yofel | that's what I hoped someone could confirm | 18:51 |
| yofel | For most users, the upgrade should be seamless, as Kontact 2 automatically imports accounts and underlying data into Akonadi, leaving the old configuration and data in place in case a rollback is ever needed. | 18:51 |
| apachelogger | if it works(tm) | 18:51 |
| yofel | right | 18:51 |
| * Quintasan goes back to books | 18:52 | |
| Quintasan | last chance to get an B from biology | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: didn't your exams get over? | 18:52 |
| * yofel remembers he wanted to work on smoke... | 18:52 | |
| yofel | too much distraction -.- | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 18:53 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I push kdepim packaging right now | 18:53 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I'm not having biology next year so I thought I'd better get a B | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 18:53 |
| Quintasan | so it goes on my graduations diploma :P | 18:53 |
| Quintasan | makes me look a little bit smarter :P | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | funnily enough, if i fail any exam and give it again, there is no proof that i ever failed that exam | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | i get a new marksheet and everything | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | lol | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | magical unis you got there | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: magical uni's that fail 120 students in a leaked paper | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | hm, you know, you'd think that people would aspire to look more like apachelogger, but instead they want to look more like smarter even though he is not a fancy lord president | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | what gives | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | >aspire to look more like apachelogger | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | Stopped reading right there. | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | Am I mad enough? | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: sup, from 300 students in a Uni near here | 18:55 |
| Quintasan | 150 failed because of calculus? | 18:55 |
| Quintasan | no idea how is that called | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | cal-cu-lus | 18:55 |
| Quintasan | function deriviates etc. | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | calculus is win | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | indeed | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | I will derive | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | and integrate | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: google youtubez I will derive | 18:56 |
| kubotu | Results for youtubez I will derive: 1. “I will derive” hilarious YouTube video » Fun Math Blog: http://wildaboutmath.com/2008/08/21/i-will-derive-hilarious-youtube-video/ | 2. a class calculus song - I will derive! - US Message Board ...: http://www.usmessageboard.com/education/124724-a-class-calculus-song-i-will-derive.html | 3. Lemmingworks » YouTube – I Will Derive!: http://www.lemmingworks.org/weblog/?p=1188 | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | there's a song about that ? lol | 18:56 |
| Quintasan | (x^4)' = 4x^3 | 18:56 |
| * Quintasan can do deriviates too | 18:56 | |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | you haven't done calculus till you've studied Electro magnetic theory ;) | 18:57 |
| Quintasan | but I can't do "integrate" thing yet | 18:57 |
| Quintasan | okay bbl | 18:57 |
| Quintasan | biology calls | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | cya | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | ok i think kate is done | 19:00 |
| bulldog98 | https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kdepim/4.6.0 | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | oh wait, have to add breaks/replaces | 19:00 |
| bulldog98 | Could someone have a look at my packaging? I’ll correct things in an hour (I hope) | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: i can take a quick look | 19:02 |
| apachelogger | jussi, persia, Quintasan: what the cat dragged in: http://i.imgur.com/eaViO.jpg | 19:07 |
| * DarkwingDuck needs to get an ARM board | 19:07 | |
| === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| * bulldog98 ’ll drive home (1h) | 19:15 | |
| sheytan | apachelogger http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2426/login21.png | 19:15 |
| sheytan | yofel ^ | 19:15 |
| sheytan | the seesion is a button with text only. After click a list with available session appears, you choose one, done | 19:16 |
| yofel | not too bad, though I can't say I like that raster overlay | 19:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | sheytan: I like it... You have that uploaded somewhere? | 19:18 |
| sheytan | yofel which one? | 19:18 |
| sheytan | DarkwingDuck: it's still a mockup :) | 19:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | sheytan: I'd like a copy when it's done. :D | 19:18 |
| sheytan | DarkwingDuck: it propably will be ready for oneric ;) But i hope it will be default too :) | 19:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | sheytan: Yeah, I was hoping for that. | 19:19 |
| sheytan | me too ;d | 19:19 |
| yofel | sheytan: the background behind the users obove | 19:19 |
| sheytan | yofel you mean the dots? | 19:20 |
| bambee | sheytan: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2426/login21.png <--- lovely :D | 19:20 |
| yofel | right | 19:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | sheytan: I was thinking about putting together an Oneiric background. | 19:20 |
| sheytan | yofel well, me too, but you know it's all just possible to change :) | 19:21 |
| sheytan | bambee thank you :) | 19:21 |
| bambee | it's a theme for kdm or lightdm ? | 19:21 |
| sheytan | DarkwingDuck: maybe someday :) | 19:21 |
| sheytan | bambee a mockup for lightdm | 19:21 |
| bambee | OMG :D | 19:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | sheytan: You do graphics work right? | 19:21 |
| sheytan | DarkwingDuck: yes, it's me who designed the kubuntu website you propably will be working on :) | 19:22 |
| sheytan | i did all myself | 19:22 |
| sheytan | bambee yeah, i will pray to make it default for oneric ;d | 19:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | sheytan: Epic. Did I show you these? http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Graphics/Oneiric/ | 19:22 |
| bambee | sheytan: it would be cool :) | 19:22 |
| yofel | sheytan: the rest of the mockup is totally great though ;) | 19:24 |
| sheytan | yofel thank you, now someone needs to take care of the tech side of it | 19:25 |
| sheytan | DarkwingDuck: yep, you did and i told you it's nice ;) | 19:25 |
| yofel | btw, anyone experience in writing copyright files? I'm not really sure how to start. I found http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00023.html which I'm trying to follow layout wise and licensecheck told me roughly what licenses are in the files, but now I'm a bit lost... | 19:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, I should prolly go fix my blueprints. | 19:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | sheytan: Speaking of hte website. Have you been maintaining it? | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | jussi, persia, Quintasan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/iMX53QuickStartBoard | 19:33 |
| yofel | apachelogger: where did you get the board from? | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | freescale | 19:34 |
| bambee | yofel: look at libmygpo-qt, I wrote debian/copyright from scratch and it looks good. | 19:36 |
| yofel | bambee: thanks, looking | 19:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | I've been eyeing a panda poard. | 19:37 |
| bambee | you should get a "Files:*" section which contains the upstream license and the upstream authors | 19:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | *board | 19:37 |
| bambee | and a "Files: debian/*" section which contains the license of your rules and your name | 19:37 |
| bambee | yofel: use dh_make, It will create a debian/copyright template for you :) | 19:37 |
| yofel | I'll need to seperate the files a bit, smokegen is a mix of GPL, LGPL, a BSD file and others | 19:38 |
| yofel | ah, I totally forgot dep-5 existed | 19:39 |
| bambee | in this case I think you should use several sections | 19:39 |
| bambee | "Files:foo.c" => gpl, "Files:bar.c" => bsd , but I am not sure... :\ | 19:40 |
| bambee | this is not the better example, but look at /usr/share/doc/kdelibs5/copyright for example | 19:44 |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| jussi | apachelogger: nice work | 19:46 |
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| bambee | yofel: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ :) | 19:47 |
| apachelogger | jussi: now also with the picture :D | 19:49 |
| jussi | apachelogger: ooooohhhh!!!! | 19:49 |
| jussi | apachelogger: was that a simple apt get install plasma mobile? and how well does it run? | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | runs like crap | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | then again plasma-mobile in natty is crap | 19:50 |
| jussi | heh | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | jussi: apt-get install plasma-mobile kubuntu-mobile-default-settings kdebase-workspace-bin kubuntu-mobile | 19:51 |
| jussi | and we are expecting better in one-i-ric? | 19:51 |
| apachelogger | one-eye-rick should have a better one, yes | 19:51 |
| apachelogger | well | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | there is a vast amount of kaputness in plasma-mobile these days | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | probably because of incompatibility with old kdelibs | 20:11 |
| yofel | dunno, it's uninstallable in neon too because it duplicates files from kde-workspace | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | also the green is just horrible | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | http://i.imgur.com/y1OTA.jpg | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | thats | 20:16 |
| shadeslayer | suse | 20:16 |
| shadeslayer | right? | 20:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: whats with the graphics at the top? | 20:16 |
| apachelogger | no | 20:17 |
| apachelogger | that is upstream plasma mobile | 20:17 |
| apachelogger | with stylish green because apparently opensuse is taking over the plasma | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | pffffftttt | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | at least that explains why plasma mobile is so broken right now :P | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | we need more aaarrmm boards | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | so that we can make it blue again | 20:18 |
| * apachelogger doesnt get that | 20:18 | |
| shadeslayer | Green surely does not suit plasma | 20:18 |
| Quintasan | SUSE taking plasma? | 20:19 |
| yofel | hm, looking at the freescale website I don't get where I should look to get a board | 20:19 |
| Quintasan | no thanks | 20:19 |
| Quintasan | I'll pass | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: get a pandaboard instead | 20:20 |
| * yofel looks | 20:20 | |
| shadeslayer | but most of them are out of stock | 20:20 |
| shadeslayer | so you might have to wait | 20:20 |
| Quintasan | Y U NO PAYMENT CONFIRMATION FREESCALE? | 20:20 |
| * Quintasan goes back to books | 20:20 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why get a panda instead? | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | because Quintasan is having so many issues with freescale | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | also helps to have loads of different devices | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | that way you can target more devices instead of having just one particular device | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | ( haven't looked at what the quick start board has to offer yet, so can't do a hardware comparission just yet ) | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | *comparison even | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: half o kubuntu and plasma is getting equipped with pandas | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | what you are suggesting is working against hardware diversity | 20:28 |
| shadeslayer | when did that happen | 20:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i did not know that | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | not that I believethat hardware diversity made much sense seeing as there is no common kernel | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: wip in progress | 20:28 |
| shadeslayer | work in progress in progress ... <3 that | 20:28 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: this is cool hackery ^^ http://hackaday.com/2011/06/12/how-canonical-automates-linux-package-compilation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29 | 20:29 |
| shadeslayer | *click* | 20:29 |
| shadeslayer | is that about our auto builds? | 20:29 |
| shadeslayer | HOLY FSCK | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer | "The server is composed of 21 PandaBoards, small OMAP development boards featuring a dual-core ARM cortex processor with just about all the connectivity options you could possibly ask for." | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i just had a nerdgasm | 20:30 |
| yofel | lol | 20:30 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | hm, the imx53 board seems cheaper though | 20:38 |
| yofel | the A8 is single core though IIRC | 20:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: can haz look at kate control file? | 20:42 |
| yofel | and the pandaboard really seems to be totally sold out :/ | 20:42 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: sure | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: there's like a 2 month wait on the panda | 20:43 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/626097/ | 20:43 |
| yofel | one page said 12 weeks even | 20:43 |
| shadeslayer | oh btw don't mind the maintainer etc fields right now, i'll fix them | 20:43 |
| yofel | uh... | 20:45 |
| yofel | what's the point of kate Breaking itself? | 20:45 |
| yofel | and why would it break the kdesdk meta package | 20:45 |
| yofel | and I think it should be Priority: optional | 20:46 |
| yofel | at least current kate is | 20:46 |
| * shadeslayer fixes | 20:46 | |
| shadeslayer | ok btw : libktexteditor4 is also provided by kdelibs | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | and also kate | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | and theres a doc that says that the one provided by kate is sync'd with kdelibs for 4.x.y | 20:48 |
| === PascalFR is now known as boxershort | ||
| shadeslayer | which is why i haven't made the package in kate | 20:49 |
| JontheEchidna | ^that's the correct course of action for the long term | 20:50 |
| yofel | yeah, only libkatepartinterfaces4 was moved, libktexteditor is in kdelibs | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 20:55 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: actually libktexteditor is in kate as well | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer | but, its a copy of the one in kdelibs | 20:56 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: doesn't seem to get installed though, or we would have conflicts in neon | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | uh .. weird then, i got them in the list missing hook | 21:06 |
| yofel | we have something called | 21:07 |
| yofel | /opt/project-neon/lib/libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so.0.0.1 | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | yeah thats in kate | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | !find libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so | 21:09 |
| ubottu | File libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so found in kate, kdesdk-dbg | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 21:09 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| shadeslayer | i'm talking about usr/lib/libktexteditor.so.4 and friends | 21:11 |
| LaserJock | is there any PPA with 4.7 betas? | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | LaserJock: the ninjas ppa if you access to it | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | its WIP tho | 21:22 |
| LaserJock | sure, just wondered | 21:22 |
| jussi | Hrm, re: the ML thread, I think its a mistake putting the KDE logo on the greeter, and then below it "Welcome to Kubuntu". seems a bit of an oxymoron. We should then write "welcome to kde" perhaps? I know we want to be in keeping as much as possible with kde, but this seems a bit wrong? | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: iirc apachelogger's implementation has KDE | 21:58 |
| jussi | that said... the mockup from sheytan_ is _gorgeous_!!! | 21:58 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 21:58 |
| jussi | http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2426/login21.png | 21:58 |
| apachelogger | it is a prototype | 21:58 |
| apachelogger | a design study if you will | 21:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzIBZQkj6SY | 21:59 |
| jussi | apachelogger: but acan you see my point? | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | it would be very good if people stopped arguing about implementation details | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | jussi: yes, but that is the status quo | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | also you are on a kubuntu setup but using KDE software | 21:59 |
| * jussi still disagrees. you have to have one or the other. would you put kde logo on thetop of a kubuntu web page, because we use kde? why not the linux logo as well, we use that too.... | 22:01 | |
| jussi | anyway, bedtime | 22:02 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 22:05 |
| _Groo_ | i just backported calligra to nauty based on the great work from Adrien Grellier | 22:06 |
| yofel | apachelogger: ^ | 22:06 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: actually, we do have those logo's on kubuntu.org :) | 22:07 |
| _Groo_ | any interest in testing those? | 22:09 |
| _Groo_ | im gonna upload it to my ppa ASAP | 22:09 |
| _Groo_ | btw im waiting for kdepim 4.6 to complete build in staging to give it a spin :D | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | if you would have been using Kubuntu, you wouldn't have to wait :> | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer | darn | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | i meant | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | Project neon ;P | 22:25 |
| JontheEchidna | I'd like to point out that the current KDM theme does not have an icon of any sort, plus we are not even using KDM, therefore putting a Kubuntu icon should be perfectly justifiable, and not doing so would lead to brand confusion. But it's also something that doesn't need to be worried about right now. | 22:38 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: i know shade | 22:38 |
| _Groo_ | but i like to build calligra and i would build kdepim if i add the time | 22:38 |
| _Groo_ | even today i recommended neon to a qt develoepr friend of mine :) | 22:39 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: we haz builds for calligra | 22:39 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: we are using lightdm already in alpha1? | 22:39 |
| JontheEchidna | what? no. it's not past the mockup stages yet | 22:39 |
| JontheEchidna | I supose I should have said we wouldn't be using KDM if we used lightdm | 22:41 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Link for Calligra/Neon howto please. | 23:00 |
| shadeslayer | one sec | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: http://krita.org/component/content/article/10-news/85-krita-artist-session-recording-part-i-animtims-turn | 23:14 |
| ScottK | thanks | 23:26 |
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