[00:02] hm, kdepimlibs was somewhat easy compared to kdelibs [00:02] what did I forget to do... [00:02] yofel: for the new packages, did you start from scratch? [00:02] i mean completely new packaging? [00:03] ( like i'm thinking of doing for kate ) [00:03] more or less yes, I only copied the existing stuff that could be reused [00:03] like install files and descriptions [00:03] and binary names [00:03] hmm [00:03] still not sure if I should keep the old changelog [00:03] will there be kdepim 4.6 on natty, or is it better to wait [00:03] currently I don't [00:03] claydoh: ask bulldog98 [00:04] there will be, in backports probably [00:04] we should make that available for natty [00:04] since it's technically part of 4.6.4 [00:04] it is quite good from using it in neon [00:04] oh look another user of neon [00:04] :D [00:04] claydoh: it will it only needs small modification in control [00:04] didn't we already know claydoh? ^^ [00:05] i didn't [00:05] ah, I forgot to take out the kdebase references [00:05] shadeslayer: I use neon sometimes too [00:05] :) [00:05] but mainly from within my normal desktop setup [00:06] it is good to know that people use it :P [00:06] hmm [00:06] yofel: you know what [00:06] yofel: theres a libplasma2 branch [00:06] :> [00:06] yofel: I even demod it on Linuxtag (marble) [00:06] so, what, I make it user # 3, or 4 ?? [00:06] :D [00:06] claydoh: more much more :) [00:07] shadeslayer: that thing that aseigo started? Didn't read his blog post TBH [00:07] * shadeslayer suddenly has a very sinister plan [00:07] yofel: well i'm going to checkout the branch [00:07] my kdelibs clone is probably ancient [00:07] bulldog98: good [00:07] claydoh: on the know user count something like 4 ^^ [00:07] though the krita blog post should've gotten us some users [00:08] yofel: don’t you count yourself as user to? [00:09] yofel: I even know a debian User using it [00:09] erm, if you count us co-maintainers as users then we already have 4 by default ^^ [00:09] where will we put KDE PIM 4.6? (PPA) [00:10] backports I would say [00:10] it's nothing SRU-able, so not for updates [00:10] rather handle it as a backport from oneiric (it technically is one) [00:10] yofel: we have the others in experimental, but backports sounds good [00:11] experimental was for beta and RC, now that it's out backports is reasonable [00:12] yofel: was my thought, too [00:13] * yofel uploads kdepimlibs [00:13] yofel: btw, should we get kdepim 4.6 into archive before 4.7 beta is uploaded? [00:14] probably, 4.7 has kdepim 4.7 tars (no idea what's the difference, probably they want to keep it in sync again) [00:14] debfx: ^ [00:14] yofel: yes they want that [00:15] * bulldog98 now has backported the kdepim-runtime stuff (see if it works) [00:17] o.O [00:17] Unable to obtain lock held by debfx@bazaar.launchpad.net [00:17] sounds like something went wrong... "at crowberry [process #15939], acquired 291 hours, 21 minutes ago." [00:18] * yofel broke the lock [00:18] this will be the next build process: https://launchpad.net/~bulldog98/+archive/staging/+build/2564878 [00:22] yofel: do we still have kde-sc-dev-latest? [00:22] we do [00:22] ok [00:33] * bulldog98 still needs to update the pbuilder [00:37] yofel: what did you put in : "This package is a part of ... " [00:38] KDE ? KDE SC? KDE Frameworks [00:38] er, the Kdebindings project I think. Not sure what to put there... [00:39] hmm ... what do i put kate under [00:39] maybe check what it's under at projects.kde.org [00:40] yofel: Frameworks [00:40] shadeslayer: ask in #kde-promo [00:40] bulldog98: what would smoke belong to? [00:40] would be my thought [00:40] frameworks too? [00:40] I would say so [00:40] well its under kdebase [00:40] so i'll put it as kdebase [00:41] but I’s used to build up libarys -> Framework [00:41] sounds reasonable [00:42] great copyright entry in kdebindngs... [00:42] smoke/ [00:42] smoke.h is BSD licensed. [00:42] The rest of smoke is quite trivial and autogenerates code with kalyptus [00:42] what kind of license description is "quite trivial" o.O [00:43] yofel: That means that it’s autogenerated stuff and there by Public Domain (that’s how I would interpret that) [00:44] yofel: maybe you should ask the maintainer to clearify that [00:44] well, dunno, licensecheck showed a mix of LGPL, GPL and self written stuff [00:45] I think I'll first look for docs what a copyright file should contain... [00:45] * yofel looks through the policy [00:45] for me that sounds like copyright wait [00:48] !search pkg-kde-tools [00:48] Found: [00:49] !info pkg-kde-tools [00:49] pkg-kde-tools (source: pkg-kde-tools): various packaging tools and scripts for KDE Applications. In component main, is extra. Version 0.9.3ubuntu10 (natty), package size 92 kB, installed size 548 kB [00:50] yofel: I need to backport them to natty to get it to build [00:50] would that be ok? [00:51] the new one is in natty-backports [00:51] yofel: so I have to enable it [00:51] 0.14.0ubuntu1~natty1 0 [00:51] 100 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-backports/main amd64 Packages [00:53] yofel: is that enabled in the backports ppa? [00:53] let me check [00:54] hm, nope [00:55] rather upload it there, not sure if we want all of the backports enabled there [00:55] apachelogger: ping [00:57] yofel: I’ll upload to staging and we’ll decide about that later [01:09] !info: dblatex [01:10] !info dblatex [01:10] dblatex (source: dblatex): Produces DVI, PostScript, PDF documents from DocBook sources. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3-2 (natty), package size 1547 kB, installed size 7336 kB [01:11] !info libgrantlee-dev [01:11] libgrantlee-dev (source: grantlee): Grantlee templating library development files. In component main, is extra. Version 0.1.7-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 33 kB, installed size 276 kB [01:18] hmm [01:18] yofel: you forgot to remove libkatepartinterfaces4.install from kdelibs [01:18] I did? [01:19] yes, you removed the package from the control file but not the install file [01:19] funnily the symbols file is also gone [01:19] drat [01:20] meh, removed in the package but I forgot to bzr rm -.- [01:22] removed [01:22] indeed :) [01:33] * bulldog98 nearly got his pbuilder from natty to oneiric [01:34] btw what about: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development#Kubuntu%20Ninja%20Dojo [01:35] sounds about accurate considering what we're doing [01:36] yofel: what to do to start to get https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development#Packaging Career up [01:43] bulldog98: poke apachelogger, do start by becoming member though [01:46] yofel: he seems to be asleep :) [01:47] well, if you believe you've contributed enough put yourself up for the next meeting [01:47] not sure when it'll be, someone has to organise it [01:48] wth [01:49] why is this running tests when i told it not to @_@ [01:49] hm, did you override dh_auto_test? [01:49] yes [01:49] wait [01:50] yofel: i overrode dh_configure [01:50] and added a cmake flag [01:50] hm... not sure [01:50] I don't touch tests often enough [01:53] yofel: whats the binding to read the backlog in screen? [01:53] i can't quite find it [01:54] hm, I usually use F7 in byobu (copy mode), let me look [01:55] shadeslayer: manpage says C-a esc [01:55] ah [02:26] hey there [02:29] shadeslayer: It's upgraded on most of LP, but not the buildds yet. [03:14] wgrant: any ETA on that? === tazz_ is now known as tazz [07:27] apachelogger: poke [07:34] apachelogger: if i understand this correctly, after creating the adaptor class is simply instantiate a object of the adaptor class and pass the dbus interface as the parent? [07:34] +to the object [09:10] shadeslayer: thats an interesting mail. Good reasons for postponement. [10:42] is packaging KDEPIM 4.6 in the pipeline already? [10:45] it should have been released with KDE 4.6.4 normally, so I wonder why it is not there yet [10:45] Mamarok: I think shadeslayer finished/is working on it. [10:45] OK, thanks [10:46] bulldog98 was working on it, he should be done today [11:09] yofel: which branch had a lock? [11:12] kdepimlibs [11:13] happened to me too once when I had connection issues, so I assumed the same considering how old the lock was [11:15] yeah, I still have unpushed changes locally :( === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot [11:43] do we have kdepim 4.6.0 yet? [11:44] poke bulldog98, he said he was almost finished IIRC [11:45] ah, there is something about personal staging ppa in the backlog [11:45] bulldog98: also, before applying for membership you should collect endorsments on your wiki page [11:45] we should do this a lot more [11:45] makes so much sense [11:47] what does one need to do to become a kubuntu-dev anyway? Not that I consider myself ready yet. [11:48] can has this in kubuntu? http://is.gd/2BPjoi [12:11] jussi: I hust tried it [12:12] just* [12:17] ulysses: and how did it go? [12:19] jussi: fine, I had to install python-kde4-dev, python-kde4-dev and python-kde4-dev to install, and python-parted to run Quickformat [12:19] bah [12:19] pyqt4-dev-tools, python-kde4-dev and intltool [12:20] why the -dev stuff? [12:20] probably python-kde4 is good instead of python-kde4-dev [12:21] jussi: it's Python, it missed some stuff, and apt-file find those in the packages above [13:31] agateau: ping [13:32] yofel: kdepim 4.6 is NOT part of 4.6.4. It's a feature release that happened to occur at the same time. [13:33] shadeslayer and yofel: I'd just say it's all part of KDE. The rest is nonsense, IMO. [13:34] yofel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers [13:35] well, they sure made it sound like that though since it's only the 4.6.4 announcement page. Even if it's not part of it [13:35] who is part of KDE? [13:36] and users don't make much of a difference there [13:36] * apachelogger points out the page titles in favor of kdepim [13:36] it was nothing more than the june *release day* [13:37] apachelogger: how is the board going? [13:41] yofel: Then we should make the difference clear. Particularly since you can't downgrade from kdepim 4.6 back to 4.4. [13:41] jussi: sleeping [13:42] heh [13:42] like me [13:42] * apachelogger should be working on assignments but cannot find the motivation [13:44] ScottK: I'll write a post for the website later, that should belong there, right [13:44] yofel: Yes. [13:44] Please make it two different news items so it's clear to people. [13:45] I'll make a new one for kdepim, yes [13:45] Riddell: How does one arrange to get added to planet.kde.org? [13:46] ScottK: one can ask me or anyone else with an svn account to add the blog [13:46] needs feed URL, IRC nick, hackergotchi [13:46] OK. Let me gather that up. [13:46] Is the hackergotchi required? [13:47] I don't have one of those. [13:47] nope [13:47] Thanks. [13:47] but then we could not gase upon your lovely face :( [13:47] most don't have one, I didn't add one either === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [13:50] I think it's important on a site intended to build community that you get to see who the other community members are [13:51] need to figure out how to make the background transparent then, been a while since I used gimp [14:01] ScottK / Riddell: Fear not! http://bootie.daviey.com/~dave/scottk.png [14:02] Daviey: genius! [14:04] Oh dear. Let's not. [14:05] ScottK: I think i have one taken from one of the bars in Budapest... maybe that would be better :) [14:06] There all painfully bad. [14:06] There/They're [14:50] ScottK: go make a better one then :P [14:50] either way you'll end up with some pic [14:50] and I for one think the more ludicrous a hackergotchi is the better :P [14:51] you don't have one either :P [14:51] because the planets always loose it [14:51] what planet are we talking about anyway [14:51] KDE [14:51] rdieter_work: also, can I get on the fedora planet? [14:52] yofel: oh yeah, that definitely got lost by Riddell in one of his reinvention of the planet changes [14:52] heh [14:52] ever since I was too lazy to push up a nu one, so if anyone feels motivated... [14:52] https://picasaweb.google.com/valorie.zimmerman/RandaSwitzerlandKDESprint#5615188975802310450 [14:52] here, that you can use [14:52] then I can also get on planet fedora [14:52] muahhahaaha [14:53] hey there [14:54] apachelogger: you look like Darth Vader [14:54] only without the mask and everything [14:54] it is a good thing [14:54] kent beck said [14:54] the red eye is *just* right [14:54] hahaha [14:54] and the fellowship of the java sighed [14:55] one may note that the green shirt I was waering was of the graet empire of opensuseeee [14:56] :O [14:56] apachelogger: you tried to takeover suse? [15:00] apachelogger: did you see the message i left you? [15:00] about the adaptor class [15:01] jussi: i have a even better one which explains why they are not putting it in debian yet [15:01] my gimp is kaput [15:02] how unfortunately [15:02] -ly [15:02] meh. [15:02] apachelogger: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet_HowTo , hrm, though that requires one to be a fedora contributor (have an account, yada yada, I'll ask around if we can get around that) [15:05] rdieter_work: great, thanks :) [15:09] apachelogger: ok, I'll take care of it, what's the feed you want to add? [15:14] rdieter_work: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/category/kde/feed/?mrss=off&category_name=kde [15:15] rbelem: I have a blank cursor theme :P [15:17] shadeslayer: you dont have a hackergotchi on planetkde plz fix [15:17] apachelogger: i don't have a hackergotchi ... [15:17] make one then [15:17] speaking of that, apachelogger do you have a hackergotchi I could use for your feed? [15:17] rdieter_work: working on that right now [15:17] will find one later [15:17] ok [15:17] not terribly easy without the gimpster :D [15:18] lol someone searched kdroidslayer xD [15:19] yeah, because you have too many power outages :P === tazz_ is now known as tazz [15:20] can't you connect you notebook over your android? [15:20] yes i can, but i don't have a data plan on the phone right now [15:20] i used to do that when i had free 3G [15:20] ah [15:21] the phone gets really really hot [15:21] add a fan [15:21] yeah, I can't get more than 4h or so out of my n900 either when using bluetooth :/ [15:21] lol [15:21] that would make for a good quote [15:21] like "good thing I got me usb phone in the pocket" [15:22] shadeslayer could go for something like "good that my phone has a fan, I can even use it on mars" [15:22] sure as long as my provider covers Mars [15:24] * apachelogger is listening to mgmt [15:24] really loud [15:25] * yofel listens to the rain falling outside [15:25] do we haz good picture of me? [15:25] good = supreme ludicrous [15:25] the one with the rabbit outfit? [15:26] fooey [15:26] http://pastebin.com/wLigMF7L [15:26] or what was that again... [15:26] how do you know about the rabbit outfit? :O [15:27] dunno, didn't we show a pic with you and martin around all the time? [15:27] shadeslayer: I recognise a lot on that list :P [15:27] ah [15:27] right [15:27] that could work [15:27] yofel: that was a disney princess unicorn though [15:27] yofel: well alot of them are dupes, but the main isssue is why is everything going into /usr/local [15:28] ah ^^ [15:28] shadeslayer: uh yeah... you are using debian-qt-kde.mk? [15:28] * shadeslayer looks for appropriate CMakeFlags [15:28] /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/debian-qt-kde.mk yes [15:28] ... [15:29] then I'm clueless [15:29] oh i thought i made a mistake or sth :P [15:31] well, *something*'s obviously wrong... [15:32] yeah [15:33] well : kate-4.6.80/kate/plugins/katebuild-plugin/plugin_katebuild.cpp has : 68:static const QString DefConfigCmd = "cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local ../"; [15:33] * apachelogger reinstalls the gimpster in hopes of getting it to work [15:35] :O [15:35] our gtk theme breaks gimp!!! [15:35] JontheEchidna: halp! [15:35] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1746905.html [15:35] works for me on neon [15:36] oddly enough I can't reproduce that... gimp works fine here [15:36] with oxygen-gtk and raster [15:36] albeit it looks horrible [15:36] apachelogger: have you tried out libplasma2 yet? [15:37] shadeslayer: what does libplasma2 break? [15:37] yofel: i can't get it to compile yet [15:37] heh [15:37] it fails at 97 % :> [15:41] perhaps I did [15:41] perhaps I did not [15:44] sitter * 1236532 * trunk/www/sites/planet/ (planetkde/config website/images/apachelogger.jpg) add hackergotchi [15:44] who the hell made nano my svn ci editor [15:44] ewwww [15:44] * apachelogger almost did not get out of it again [15:46] sitter * 1236533 * trunk/www/sites/planet/website/ (hackergotchi/apachelogger.jpg images/apachelogger.jpg) move to right dir actually [15:46] fooey, oneiric doesn't like nfs... [15:46] [19526.732865] mount.nfs4[24338]: segfault at 0 ip 00140f8f sp bfa5e150 error 4 in libc-2.13.so[110000+15b000] [15:48] use a proper fs [15:48] well, installing sshfs now [15:48] I said a proper fs :P [15:48] apachelogger: feed added, welcome aboard [15:48] apachelogger: I'm open for suggestions :P [15:49] rdieter_work: yay, thanks, hackergotchi for now: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/apachelogger.jpg [15:50] apachelogger: nice! [15:50] :D [15:50] yofel: cifs [15:51] apachelogger: should I use that url, or copy that somewhere? [15:51] hm, I do have samba running on my server actually... [15:51] * rdieter_work made a copy, holler if I should do otherwise. === ximion1 is now known as ximion [15:53] rdieter_work: copy is the way to go i believe [16:17] :O [16:17] "zsh: correct 'kubuntu' to 'ubuntu' [nyae]? " [16:18] shadeslayer: what? [16:18] bulldog98: was pulling a branch with kubuntu in the branch name [16:18] zsh suggested i change it to ubuntu :P [16:18] shadeslayer: we have to fix that [16:19] hmm? [16:23] apachelogger, :-D === ximion2 is now known as ximion [16:29] cifs setup done, works nice :) === maco2 is now known as maco [16:38] shadeslayer: file a bug "zsh discriminating against kubuntu" [16:38] critical === ximion1 is now known as ximion [16:41] so [16:41] where is me KDEPIM 4.6.0 :P [16:41] * apachelogger is dying with geeemail [16:42] bulldog98: ^ [16:42] interestingly only reproducible on yofel's thinkpad [16:43] supposedly you need to have some sort of dict installed [16:43] yofel: nearly finished [16:43] some dicts actually do that kubuntu->ubuntu thing because someone did not bother to add kubuntu [16:43] The replies in this thread keep getting smaller : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/2011-June/010565.html [16:43] i wonder whats next [16:44] apachelogger: use kdepim 4.5.96 in the meanwhile [16:44] well it is about busybox, only suitable to have small replies too :P [16:44] hahaha [16:44] bulldog98: I do not like broken software :P [16:44] apachelogger: 4.5.96 isn't broken [16:44] apachelogger: Imo it’s not broken [16:44] apachelogger: use Neon + KDE PIM [16:44] not broken as well [16:44] broken enough to not cope with the 3000000000 billion mails I have [16:45] shadeslayer: where your current neon fails: I do not want all of kde from trunk [16:45] current KDE Trunk = KDE 4.6.8x which is what our PPA's will have soonish [16:46] and for some reason i have DCMAKE_INSTALL_PATH=/usr while building [16:46] no idea where that comes form [16:46] *from [16:46] wha? [16:47] apachelogger: packaging kate, for some reason we have DCMAKE_INSTALL_PATH=/usr while building [16:47] why yes [16:47] that is supposed to be?!?!?! [16:47] what else would it be? [16:48] but then it installs files to /usr/local/bin [16:48] and such [16:48] what?!? [16:48] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/wLigMF7L [16:49] then it is not building with CMAKE_INSTALL_PATH=/usr [16:50] cd obj-x86_64-linux-gnu [16:50] cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debian -DCMAKE_USE_RELATIVE_PATHS=ON -DKDE4_BUILD_TESTS=false "-DKDE_DISTRIBUTION_TEX [16:50] T=Kubuntu packages" [16:50] erm prefix i mean [16:50] not install path [16:50] please get a complete build log [16:51] apachelogger: I'd need better raw material to work with. [16:52] http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/images/2008/04/26/entourage_day_fkers_2.jpg [16:52] apachelogger: le build log http://paste.ubuntu.com/625960/ [16:53] btw : http://cgit.collabora.com/git/user/gkiagia [16:55] ehm [16:55] wah? [16:55] shadeslayer: you do not make sense [16:56] shadeslayer: that buildlog does not match what your earlier list-missing had [16:56] oh yes indeed ... nvm me [16:56] looks like everything fixed itself === ximion2 is now known as ximion [16:57] * apachelogger shakes head [16:58] shadeslayer: where is that file? /opt/project-neon/share/project-neon/environment.rc [16:59] what file? [16:59] /opt/project-neon/share/project-neon/environment.rc [16:59] i don't understand the questiom [16:59] s/m/n [17:00] in what package is that file [17:00] ah [17:00] project-neon-session i'd guess [17:01] no it's in -common [17:03] * apachelogger is lead to believe that one should not run neon's kmail against the regular akonadi server [17:04] completely broke [17:04] n [17:04] well obviously [17:05] thats why we use our own SQL Server in /opt/project-neon/bin/mysqld-akonadi [17:08] smartass [17:09] * apachelogger gives linaro on mx53 another shot [17:11] if everything goes as planned, i'll be getting a faster internet connection in a couple of days \o/ [17:11] Up to 56K now? [17:12] lol ^^ === m4n1sh is now known as manish [17:12]