 With the team reporting do you want 1 or 2pm again sorry?
[02:57] <head_victim> 1 if that suits I have a few things to do here just now
[02:58] <benonsoftware> sure see you there
[03:56] <benonsoftware> head_victim: Is it one o'clock AEST or Brisbande time?
[03:56] <head_victim> Should be the same I just want to tee up a coffee and I was going to start
[03:56] <head_victim> somethinginteres was also going to drop by
[03:57] <benonsoftware> ok
[03:57] <head_victim> So I was hoping to train you both at the same time
[03:57] <benonsoftware> good idea
[03:57] <head_victim> If he doesn't show in a few mins we'll just start anyway
[03:57] <benonsoftware> Fine with me
[04:03] <benonsoftware> Ready to start? :)
[04:03] <head_victim> Yep just sat back down
[04:03] <head_victim> Ok
[04:04] <head_victim> So the basic concept of team reports is to have a concise, easy to read summary of the goings on of all the Ubuntu Teams.
[04:04] <benonsoftware> Sure
[04:04] <head_victim> The Loco Council really like seeing them from locos and it helps towards approval
[04:04] <head_victim> Have you read over past ones to get a bit of a feel?
[04:04] <benonsoftware> Yes.
[04:04] <benonsoftware> A bit
[04:05] <head_victim> Cool, so really it's a very basic bullet point list
[04:05] <head_victim> You have to create a separate page for each month
[04:05] <benonsoftware> Got it
[04:05] <head_victim> And you have to link them all in so that the reports run correctly.
[04:05] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports
[04:05] <head_victim> That's where I'll start
[04:05] <benonsoftware> I see we are behind
[04:06] <benonsoftware> On it
[04:06] <head_victim> Yeah it's one of those "I keep meaning to do it" things that's why I was asking for some volunteers to help out :)
[04:06] <head_victim> So the easiest way to do what we need is to simply copy the one before it
[04:06] <benonsoftware> Happy to help
[04:06] <benonsoftware> Ok
[04:06] <head_victim> So I will do April as an example for you and then I will help you with May is that ok?
[04:07] <benonsoftware> Sure, great!
[04:07] <head_victim> So the easiest way is to simply copy March, to do so I open up the march page and then click on the more actions list and select copy page.
[04:07] <benonsoftware> Smart.
[04:08] <head_victim> You'll see this yourself when you do May's one but basically it asks you for the new page name and the reason for copying.
[04:08] <benonsoftware> Just to let you know if I disappare that means I'll be a min cos of my connection
[04:08] <head_victim> So I just fill in and change March to April and give the reascon of "creating a new month's report" or something similar
[04:08] <head_victim> No worries mate
[04:08] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports/11/April
[04:08] <head_victim> So now that is aprils
[04:08] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[04:08] <head_victim> Except it's showing all March's details
[04:09] <benonsoftware> Yes
[04:09] <head_victim> So now what I do is I go back over the team for the month and see what I can find out about what happened.
[04:10] <benonsoftware> Ok. Would I just look at the logs?
[04:10] <benonsoftware> and the mailing list?
[04:10] <head_victim> I usually check out the loco.u.c page, the mailing list and the meeting details
[04:10] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[04:10] <head_victim> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-au is a good page for reports
[04:10] <head_victim> From there you can go and look at the "past events" 
[04:11] <benonsoftware> Sure thing. On it
[04:11] <head_victim> And also if you click on the "meetings" tab right at the top it will show you all the upcoming meetings for all teams, this doesn't help muhch except there is a "past meetings" button on that page as well
[04:11] <benonsoftware> Ok
[04:12] <head_victim> From there you can look through the list and see the details for the Ubuntu Australia Team meetings, I'll go back and find April's one
[04:12] <benonsoftware> Found May's
[04:12] <benonsoftware> Here's April's http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/42/detail/
[04:12] <head_victim> That's it
[04:13] <head_victim> It looks a bit bare because that's when we were transitioning from the wiki page to the loco.u.c page
[04:13] <benonsoftware> Not many items :)
[04:13] <head_victim> It refers you back to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings and under previous meetings it refers you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings/2011April12
[04:13] <benonsoftware> Have it
[04:14] <head_victim> You won't have to do this in future as from now on we're using loco.u.c exclusively just to make things easier
[04:14] <benonsoftware> It is a bit easy there
[04:14] <head_victim> Yep, fingers crossed they are also going to move the team reports to loco.u.c sometime (it's planned just not sure when it's going to be developed) so that will make it even easier
[04:15] <benonsoftware> Question: What is RC?
[04:15] <head_victim> RT or RC?
[04:15] <benonsoftware> RT
[04:15] <benonsoftware> From the items
[04:15] <head_victim> !rt
[04:15] <head_victim> Nah that's not it sorry was being lazy
[04:16] <head_victim> Bascially RT stnads for "Request Tracker" which is the system Canonical use to get support jobs done
[04:16] <head_victim> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request_Tracker
[04:16] <head_victim> Hey somethinginteres 
[04:17] <somethinginteres> head_victim: Hey
[04:17] <head_victim> We're mid april
[04:17] <head_victim> somethinginteres: so you can catch up http://paste.ubuntu.com/625599/
[04:19] <head_victim> benonsoftware: so at the moment we're trying to get Canonical to update the shared drupal server we use to host ubuntu.com.au on
[04:19] <somethinginteres> head_victim: reading now
[04:20] <head_victim> To do this the team contact (in this case me) has to submit a request to the Ubuntu RT for them to look at and work on.
[04:24] <benonsoftware> Sorry my internet had shut down
[04:24] <head_victim> THat's ok what was the last line?
 Nah that's not it sorry was being lazy
[04:25] <benonsoftware> That was the last lne
[04:25] <head_victim> benonsoftware:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/625604/
[04:26] <somethinginteres> head_victim: No mention of the release parties held in April?
[04:26] <head_victim> somethinginteres: we're working on updating april now
[04:26] <benonsoftware> Ok thanks
[04:26] <head_victim> We'd just started that
[04:27] <somethinginteres> head_victim: ah, ok no worries I thought you'd just -finished- April :) 
[04:27] <head_victim> somethinginteres: nope, we've just copied the page and now we're trawling for data
[04:28] <head_victim> So the Topic log at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings/2011April12 states 7 people attended the meeting and I chaired the meeting
[04:28] <head_victim> So to summarise this in the team report I will go and update april's page now
[04:28] <benonsoftware> Ok
[04:28] <head_victim> Do you both know how to put links in the wikis?
[04:29] <benonsoftware> Sure [[http://google.com.au|Google]]
[04:29] <somethinginteres> yeah
[04:29] <head_victim> Exactly, also simply putting JaredNorris will link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
[04:29] <somethinginteres> head_victim: just like that, no other formating?
[04:29] <benonsoftware> It doesn't work for me
[04:30] <head_victim> So the meeting point the in the team report I have just updated to " [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings/2011April12|April Meeting]] - Regular Team Meeting held 12th April, chaired by JaredNorris and attended by 7 team members."
[04:30] <head_victim> benonsoftware: it only works when there is double capitalisation I think
[04:30] <head_victim> So AustralianTeam work would but australianteam wouldn't
[04:30] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[04:31] <benonsoftware> How many was there last night?
[04:31] <head_victim> So that's the meeting information done, that's the one thing that should be there EVERY month, if we don't hold a meeting in any month we should probably make a notation as to if there was a reason for that
[04:31] <benonsoftware> Do you want me to start May's?
[04:32] <head_victim> Hold on, we'll get through april's first and then I'll discuss how to link it all
[04:32] <head_victim> The linking is the hard part
[04:32] <head_victim> Which isn't that hard but yeah
[04:32] <benonsoftware> Ok
[04:33] <head_victim> We had 9 last night
[04:33] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[04:33] <head_victim> So looking at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-au/events/history we can see there were a number of release parties and a translation jam held in April.
[04:34] <benonsoftware> That's good to hear.
[04:35] <head_victim> So as a quick summary I would add "[[http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/817/detail/|Ubuntu Global Jam]] - A Translation Jam was held online for our LoCo in the team. We had 5 people all work towards translating enAU - details of activities available [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/Translation|the wiki organisation page]]" to the april team report page
[04:36] <benonsoftware> Ok
[04:39] <head_victim> Sorry
[04:39] <head_victim> Ok added the release party info
[04:39] <head_victim> Took longer than expected
[04:39] <head_victim> If you refresh the page you'll see the changes
[04:40] <benonsoftware> See it.
[04:40] <head_victim> So we've updated the meeting information, check out loco.u.c for events now we need to check the mailing list
[04:40] <head_victim> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/ is a good easy place to quickly check the history by month
[04:41] <benonsoftware> OkThanks
[04:41] <head_victim> There's nothing really major at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2011-April/thread.html that really warrants adding to the team report in my opinion
[04:42] <benonsoftware> Just mainly the parties
[04:42] <head_victim> Pretty much, which we've already covered.
[04:42] <head_victim> So all that's left to check is the website - www.ubuntu.com.au
[04:42] <head_victim> Not much activity their either for April so I'd basically be saying April is done.
[04:42] <benonsoftware> Is there a difference from u.com.au then u.org.au ?
[04:42] <head_victim> It's the same just a different tld
[04:43] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[04:43] <benonsoftware> Be back in a min
[04:43] <head_victim> No worries
[04:43] <head_victim> somethinginteres: following ok?
[04:44] <somethinginteres> head_victim: yep, so far so good
[04:44] <head_victim> COol, none of this is really that hard it's just a matter of getting it done a few times.
[04:44] <benonsoftware> Back sorry. Fixing the DVD player for my brother
[04:44] <head_victim> I will write up a wiki page, sort of a ToDo list for team reports based on todays session so you can refer to it later on as well 
[04:45] <benonsoftware> Thanks for that
[04:45] <benonsoftware> What's the URL
[04:45] <head_victim> When I've written it I'll let you know :)
[04:45] <benonsoftware> Sorry. :( ok
[04:46] <head_victim> Ok, so lets pretend it's the last week of April and we've gotten the report to that stage. The last thing we do is email the mailing list and ask if anyone else has anything to add and give a link to it so they can add information if required
[04:46] <benonsoftware> Got it
[04:46] <head_victim> We'll pretend that happened an no one had any feedback (don't be shocked if no one has anything to add it just means you've done a good job organising the details)
[04:46] <benonsoftware> Thats fine
[04:46] <somethinginteres> head_victim: Cool
[04:47] <head_victim> So this is where it gets tricky in that you have to remember which goes where
[04:47] <benonsoftware> What do you mean?
[04:47] <head_victim> So now we need to update the "current" to reflect April
[04:47] <benonsoftware> Sorry?
[04:47] <head_victim> If you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports/Current you will see March
[04:48] <benonsoftware> Ok got it now
[04:48] <head_victim> This is where they pull the reports from so it needs to be kept up to daye.
[04:48] <benonsoftware> Don't tell me how to do it yet. :)
[04:48] <head_victim> So if you have a look at that page in raw text https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports/Current?action=raw you will see it only contains 1 line of data
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[04:48] <benonsoftware>  like this?
[04:49] <head_victim> Yes, but now we want to make it say april
[04:49] <benonsoftware> Can I do it?
[04:49] <head_victim> So all you need to do is edit it to <<Include(AustralianTeam/TeamReports/11/April)>> 
[04:49] <head_victim> Sure
[04:49] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[04:49] <head_victim> Do you both understand how <<Includes>> work?
[04:50] <benonsoftware> Sure
[04:50] <benonsoftware> Finished
[04:50] <somethinginteres> head_victim: I belive so, yeah. It includes the data from the referenced page?
[04:50] <head_victim> Yes, you can list as many as you want and it will just include each of the pages, we only want 1 for this purpose though
[04:51] <benonsoftware> Sure
[04:51] <somethinginteres> head_victim: how would you change it at the link you provided? Or do you edit it at the normal wiki screen? 
[04:51] <head_victim> somethinginteres: you can't I was just showing you it so you could both see it because you can't both edit at the same time
[04:52] <somethinginteres> head_victim: OK, sure
[04:52] <head_victim> So now when you go to the main page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports you will see that it's updated to have aprils information
[04:53] <head_victim> Don't be worried if you see internal server errors, once you use the wiki a bit you'll get used to them. They're meant to be updating the moinmoin so it works better and hopefully they include xapian which is meant to reduce the number of these errors on the search pages (hint hint bradm ;) )
[04:53] <benonsoftware> I get it ever time I edit
[04:53] <head_victim> Yeah, that's the main issue at the moment. It still seems to save all the changes though
[04:54] <benonsoftware> I just remove #preview
[04:54] <head_victim> Ok so that's April completely done.
[04:54] <benonsoftware> May time now?
[04:54] <head_victim> Yep
[04:55] <benonsoftware> You making the page?
[04:55] <head_victim> So I'm not sure how you 2 can work it, whether it's just a case of whoever gets to it first for that month does it or if you email each other or talk on IRC, whatever suits you both best really
[04:55] <benonsoftware> Email or IRC maybe?
[04:56] <benonsoftware> somethinginteres: What about you?
[04:56] <somethinginteres> benonsoftware: IRC or email works fine for me :) It can be a monthly race. 
[04:57] <benonsoftware> What is your email then?
[04:57] <head_victim> Hah as long as you talk to each other I don't mind how it happens just let me know if there are any problems I can help with
[04:57] <benonsoftware> Ok
[04:57] <head_victim> benonsoftware & somethinginteres if you're trading emails probably better to do it in a private message otherwise log bots can trawl for them to spam
[04:57] <somethinginteres> benonsoftware: wiki.ubuntu.com/SamLymn - on there. (I love that I can do that now :P)
[04:58] <head_victim> somethinginteres: or just that, works well doesn't it :)
[04:58] <benonsoftware> Have it
[04:58] <somethinginteres> benonsoftware: you can PM yours if you want
[04:58] <benonsoftware> Mine's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/benny
[04:58] <benonsoftware> How do I PM?
[04:58] <head_victim> What client are you using? Xchat?
[04:58] <somethinginteres> benonsoftware: no worries, got it :)
[04:58] <benonsoftware> PChat
[04:59] <somethinginteres> benonsoftware: not sure with Pchat. Xchat it's just a matter of right click and "open dialog" 
[04:59] <head_victim> Hmm Pchat is new to me as well
[04:59] <benonsoftware> Same inscrutions as XChat here
[05:00] <head_victim> Ah there you go then 
[05:00] <head_victim> Ok, well does one of you want to work on May and the other start June?
[05:00] <benonsoftware> Ill start June
[05:00] <somethinginteres> benonsoftware: OK, let's see how I go 
[05:01] <head_victim> I'll just hover in here in case you have questions
[05:01] <benonsoftware> Good luck
[05:01] <head_victim> Don't be too scared of making an error, we can always revert it back to a previously saved version
[05:01] <head_victim> And I get email updates anytime anyone changes anything on the AustralianTeam wiki page :D
[05:02] <somethinginteres> head_victim: when you say the best way is to copy the report before it is that matter of editing the previous page copying the contents and pasting or is there a more elegant solution?
[05:02] <benonsoftware> head_victim: Do I send a message to the mailing list for June?
[05:02] <head_victim> I go to the previous month and click on the "more actions" and then "copy page"
[05:03] <head_victim> I'd probably wait a week or so to send one, you want to allow June to happen before you're asking for content :)
[05:03] <benonsoftware> Ok :)
[05:03] <head_victim> somethinginteres: if you copy it then you can edit the new one so you dont actually change the old data
[05:03] <somethinginteres> head_victim: roger that
[05:05] <benonsoftware> So what main info should I have for June>
[05:06] <head_victim> benonsoftware: there's not going to be a lot for June just now, but the meeting information is the start
[05:06] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[05:06] <benonsoftware> Who was it chaired by again?
[05:07] <head_victim> sagaci chaired it :)
[05:07] <head_victim> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/93/detail/ is all the details
[05:07] <benonsoftware> I thought sagaci chaired?
[05:08] <head_victim> sagaci = Joel Pickett :)
[05:08] <benonsoftware> Silly me :)
[05:08] <head_victim> You'll get used to everyone'
[05:08] <head_victim> s nicks after a while
[05:09] <benonsoftware> It is a bit wired
[05:10] <somethinginteres> head_victim: Where can I find how many people attended May's meeting? 
[05:11] <benonsoftware> How many meetings are there a month?
[05:11] <head_victim> benonsoftware: one per month at this stage
[05:11] <benonsoftware> Thanks the 3rd or 2nd Sunday?
[05:11] <sagaci> there would be room for more if people felt the need to hone in on a certain topic
[05:11] <sagaci> 2nd
[05:12] <head_victim> somethinginteres: I just realised that there is no details on that I think that was the one postponed 
[05:13] <head_victim> somethinginteres: we had 5 people turn up and deferred most of the content to the mailing list or the next meeting
[05:13] <somethinginteres> head_victim: OK I'll note that then
[05:14] <head_victim> You should probably also note that as a result the meeting time was changed to Sunday nights
[05:14] <somethinginteres> head_victim: OK 
[05:14] <head_victim> To show that we did actually do something about the low attendance. We nearly doubled the attendance just changing the night of the week so that's not too bad.
[05:16] <benonsoftware> What link would I provide for Social Media accounts
[05:16] <somethinginteres> head_victim: something like this, "The topics for discussion were differed to to the mailing list or the Next meeting. The decision was taken to change the day of the meeting to Sunday. A successful effort in increasing attendance,which has now almost doubled.  "
[05:17] <sagaci> it's not like we're ever going to get 30 people for a meeting, besides, I think it would be too many for an IRC meeting :/
[05:17] <head_victim> somethinginteres: sounds good
[05:17] <somethinginteres> head_victim: ignore spelling fails of course :P 
[05:17] <head_victim> sagaci: I think we're approaching 30 people semi active in the team, it's just a matter of finding a time that suits as many as possible and sunday night is the best so far
[05:18] <head_victim> benonsoftware: good question, just the UbuntuAU accounts for twitter and identica?
[05:18] <benonsoftware> ok
[05:18] <benonsoftware> Wait what url?
[05:19] <head_victim> Suggest the hashtag of UbuntuAU for the accounts https://twitter.com/#!/UbuntuAU and http://identi.ca/ubuntuau
[05:19] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[05:19] <sagaci> head_victim: do you use tomboy?
[05:20] <head_victim> sagaci: our loco.u.c page is starting to look good actually - http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-au
[05:20] <head_victim> sagaci: I use text files on the desktop mainly :P
[05:22] <benonsoftware> Who has access to l.u.c/teams/ubuntu-au
[05:22] <head_victim> Everyone can see it
[05:23] <head_victim> Team members can contribute to it and the admins can update the main parts
[05:23] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[05:23] <head_victim> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-au is where it is, if you see the icons near the label "resources" you'll see links to all the other team bits, like forums, website, wiki, mailing list, irc, etc
[05:24] <benonsoftware> With identi.ca is it a group a just a account
[05:25] <head_victim> Account, it was decided that would be better so we can send messages from it as well
[05:25] <benonsoftware> What was the difference?
[05:25] <head_victim> APparently with the groups you can only join it and send messages to it but with the account you can actually send messages FROM the account.
[05:26] <somethinginteres> head_victim: work is progressing on the report, just having to multitask\
[05:26] <head_victim> somethinginteres: no worries
[05:26] <benonsoftware> Same here.
[05:26] <benonsoftware> Can you have a check on it for me?
[05:26] <head_victim> Sure, which page?
[05:27] <benonsoftware> June
[05:28] <head_victim> Just waiting for the wiki to load :)
[05:28] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[05:29] <head_victim> benonsoftware: under team maintenance I'd also suggest adding sagaci and jaddi27 as starting as team chairpeople as well :)
[05:29] <head_victim> Their details are on the contactus page as well
[05:29] <benonsoftware> Thanks
[05:31] <head_victim> And wherever possible I try to reference people by their wiki names on the wiki. So for somethinginteres I would refer to him as SamLymn and then put after that (somethinginteres) if you wanted to
[05:31] <benonsoftware> Sorry
[05:32] <head_victim> No that's ok, that's what this is all about, learning :)
[05:35] <head_victim> benonsoftware: looks good :)
[05:35] <benonsoftware> What could I add for LoCo reaproval
[05:36] <benonsoftware> Thanks.
[05:37] <head_victim> I'd probably link to the mailing list, probably this post - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2011-June/007258.html and then include a note saying we are now actively working towards it and hope to have the application in at the end of June
[05:38] <benonsoftware> Thanks.
[05:38] <benonsoftware> What's somethinginteres page?
[05:39] <somethinginteres> head_victim: hmm https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2011-May/007194.html there Joel says he created a new en-AU translation team but where is it on Launchpad? The En AU team I found was created in 2006 .:)
[05:39] <head_victim> somethinginteres: it's a launchpad team not a UBuntu team specifically hang ong
[05:39] <head_victim> https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-en-au
[05:39] <head_victim> There it is
[05:42] <benonsoftware> What is the mock up URL for the re-apporvel?
[05:42] <head_victim> It's not a mock up, it's the basis of the actual application - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Approval2011
[05:42] <benonsoftware> Oh, sorry :)
[05:42] <head_victim> No worries
[05:43] <head_victim> When we've got that where we need it I will submit a bug report to the loco council requesting they look over our application and decide if we should become official again
[05:44] <benonsoftware> I hope they accept it, is it the same people as last time ? :)
[05:45] <benonsoftware> Ideas for translations?
[05:46] <head_victim> It's the same council
[05:46] <benonsoftware> ok
[05:47] <benonsoftware> Should I link to the translation page for en-AU for that item or what?
[05:47] <head_victim> Probably not, it's information for the team but the team report is more about what outsiders what to know about the team I guess
[05:48] <benonsoftware> What should I put in then?
[05:49] <head_victim> I think the June one looks pretty good for now
[05:49] <head_victim> We don't want 100 lines, it's designed to be short and concise :)
[05:49] <benonsoftware> Ok thanks
[05:49] <benonsoftware> What do I do now?
[05:49] <head_victim> So here's a question for you though, what page should be on the Current page?
[05:50] <benonsoftware> Do you want me to put June?
[05:51] <head_victim> Nope, the current one is May because June is still to be completed :)
[05:51] <benonsoftware> Oh ok. What now?
[05:52] <head_victim> So that's pretty much it
[05:52] <benonsoftware> I see April on the current one.
[05:52] <head_victim> Yep, I'm not sure somethinginteres was abel to finish May just yet though
[05:52] <benonsoftware> Ok
[05:53] <benonsoftware> Mind if I ask you how long it took you to get your Ubuntu Membership?
[05:53] <head_victim> Well I started using Ubuntu in 2006 ish
[05:53] <head_victim> ANd I only got it this year
[05:54] <head_victim> BUT I have really only been active in the loco for the last year or so
[05:54] <head_victim> Before then I was more lurking
[05:54] <benonsoftware> Ok thanks see you later
[05:54] <head_victim> Catch you later :)
[05:54] <head_victim> THanks for you help
[05:54] <jaddi27> head_victim: I have got the events on Facebook working
[05:55] <head_victim> jaddi27: nice work :)
[05:55] <jaddi27> Only problem is that it is using UTC time and not AEST time
[05:55] <head_victim> Ah
[05:55] <jaddi27> What timezone would it be best displayed in?
[05:55] <head_victim> I think the loco.u.c page uses UTC anyway
[05:55] <head_victim> Because the meetings are online and could be different for everyone
[05:56] <jaddi27> Yes, it gets the UTC time from l.u.c
[05:56] <head_victim> So really it should be in UTC so the user can put it in local?
[05:57] <head_victim> Is there a way of making it say it's in UTC though?
[05:57] <jaddi27> I am just looking for that now
[06:01] <somethinginteres> head_victim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports/11/May
[06:01] <head_victim> somethinginteres: nice work, except my name is JaredNorris not Jarred ;)
[06:02] <head_victim> For the meeting I would probably like to see a link embeded though so the readers can get to the full detail if they want
[06:02] <somethinginteres> head_victim: no worries. Re: the meeting link I couldn't find one for May. Probably right under my nose
[06:03] <head_victim> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/65/detail/
[06:06] <somethinginteres> head_victim: thanks should be all updated now
[06:06] <head_victim> Cool, so what month do you think should be on the /Current page?
[06:08] <somethinginteres> head_victim: I'm guessing December? I kid, I kid. Let me scope that out. :P 
[06:12] <somethinginteres> head_victim: phew, lucky you pointed that out I totally forgot :) "Current" should reflect May now
[06:13] <somethinginteres> head_victim: just a thought.. the heading "Current Month's Report" might be changed to "Previous Month's Report" or something? "Current Month's Report" makes it sound like June should go there no matter its completeness given that the current month is June? 
[06:16] <head_victim> Yeah I wasn't sure on that myself
[06:16] <head_victim> Maybe it should be "current complete report"
[06:16] <head_victim> ?
[06:17] <somethinginteres> head_victim: that does leave the window open for us to be behind a bit if that occurs given it doesn't explicitly state "previous month" or something
[06:17] <somethinginteres> head_victim: I think that's a good title
[06:18] <head_victim> Well they do need to be completed by the end of the month so when they start doing the newsletter again it pulls it ot the newsletter that goes out to everyone
[06:19] <somethinginteres> head_victim: oh yeah for sure but I mean we were slightly behind until today so that does keep the title neutral 
[06:19] <head_victim> Ah yeah I see what you mean
[06:20] <head_victim> Feel free to change the title on the TeamReports page and update the /Current page :)
[06:20] <somethinginteres> head_victim: aiye aiye ca'pn
[06:26] <somethinginteres> head_victim: the /Current page, how should I change that? 
[06:27] <head_victim> Click the usual edit button and you just need to change the link to point to may.
[06:27] <head_victim> Oh wait it's already pointing to may
[06:28] <somethinginteres> head_victim: ah, yeah that's done already
[06:29] <head_victim> Well there you go :D
[06:29] <head_victim> I think we're pretty much done :)
[06:30] <somethinginteres> head_victim: awesome. Thanks for going through it and sorry for being late. :)
[06:30] <head_victim> See it's not that hard or time consuming when you get to it :) 
[06:30] <head_victim> No worries I'm just glad to have others looking after it now because I kept forgetting
[06:31] <head_victim> And don't stress if you get stuck or can't remember some of it just sing out and I'll be able to help :)
[06:38] <somethinginteres> head_victim: no worries 
[06:58] <kaushal> Hi
[06:59] <kaushal> I have this pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/625669/
[06:59] <kaushal> is there a way to just add line 30 and line 42 to tomcat 1 ?
[07:01] <head_victim> Text editor?
[07:02] <kaushal> ok
[07:02] <kaushal> vim ?
[07:04] <kaushal> head_victim: can i use patch ?
[07:04] <head_victim> No idea, if you're only changing 2 lines why not just do it manually?
[07:05] <kaushal> head_victim: but there are 100s of files
[07:05] <head_victim> Ah, well in that case I have no idea
[07:38] <somethinginteres> anyone know how to "snap" two windows togeather so they're side by side? 
[08:19] <sagaci> in two movements?
[08:33] <somethinginteres> sagaci: Mmm
[08:33] <sagaci> move each window to the side of the screen
[08:36] <somethinginteres> sagaci: thanks!
[08:36] <sagaci> no problemo
[10:12] <head_victim> somethinginteres: Can you have a quick look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports/ToDoList and see if that makes sense with regards to today's session
[10:14] <somethinginteres> head_victim: crystal clear
[10:15] <head_victim> I tried to make it up from today's logs
[10:15] <head_victim> Just so there is some reference point for the future as well.
[10:15] <head_victim> I'm hoping to document all the things that happen around the team to make it easier for people to contribute.
[10:43] <somethinginteres> head_victim: good idea
[10:43] <head_victim> Makes it harder for me to forget things as well
[10:49] <somethinginteres> head_victim: absolutely