[02:42] <johnnylep> hi, i'm trying to install Foxit Reader but have hit problems. i've downloaded it via Terminal but it wont open. Can anyone help?
[02:44] <holstein> johnnylep: you have FoxitReader_1.1.0_i386.deb ??
[02:44] <holstein> something like that?
[02:44] <johnnylep> FoxitReader_1.1.0_i386.deb yes
[02:45] <holstein> OK
[02:45] <holstein> just go click on it, and it should just prompt you to install
[02:45] <holstein> you can do it in the terminal if you prefer...
[02:45] <holstein> sudo dpkg -i path/to/FoxitReader_1.1.0_i386.deb
[02:46] <johnnylep> many thanks Holstein, i tried that from the folder but got an error
[02:46] <holstein> *replacing path/to with the actual path
[02:46] <holstein> johnnylep: what error?
[02:46] <holstein> missing dependancies?
[02:46] <johnnylep> that's a bit advanced for me, but can work through it slowly
[02:47] <holstein> where is the .deb?
[02:47] <johnnylep> yes, i think it was missing dependencies. i'll try it again and check. back in a minute
[02:47] <holstein> /home/johnnylep/Downloads?
[02:47] <holstein> it'll look like sudo dpkg -i /home/YOU/Downloads/FoxitReader_1.1.0_i386.deb
[02:49] <johnnylep> it has loaded itself into my applications list (launched from the top left menu bar - 11.04 classic) but when i click it, i get the following error message Failed to execute child process "FoxitReader" (No such file or directory)
[02:50] <holstein> johnnylep: did it install ?
[02:50] <holstein> no errors?
[02:50] <holstein> open a terminal and try starting FoxitReader
[02:51] <johnnylep> sorry, how do i do that in terminal?
[02:51] <holstein> just open a terminal, and type Fox and hit tab
[02:51] <holstein> it *should* auto complete Foxit...
[02:52] <johnnylep> it gave me  sudo apt-get install objcryst-fox  should i accept/
[02:52] <holstein> ??
[02:52] <holstein> it?
[02:52] <holstein> no
[02:52] <holstein> i dont know what that is
[02:52] <holstein> johnnylep: did Foxit install or not?
[02:53] <holstein> im not clear on that
[02:53] <johnnylep> ok, i typed Fox into terminal and hit enter
[02:53] <johnnylep> and got that message
[02:53] <holstein> johnnylep: try fo
[02:53] <holstein> then tab
[02:54] <johnnylep> command not found
[02:54] <holstein> yeah, dont hit enter...
[02:54] <holstein> NM, look in the menu for it
[02:54] <holstein> under 'office'
[02:56] <holstein> johnnylep: or is that what you used before to launch it?
[02:57] <johnnylep> i haven't been able to launch it before. i tried 'fo' and terminal has given me a list of files with 'fo' in it. nothing there with 'fox' though.
[02:57] <holstein> OK, so you probably didnt install it then
[02:58] <holstein> johnnylep: open synaptic, and make sure... search for foxit
[02:58] <holstein> let me finish installing it, and looking around, and i have another suggestion for you...
[02:58] <holstein> johnnylep: OK, in the terminal type
[02:58] <holstein> FoxitReader
[02:58] <holstein> then hit enter
[03:00] <johnnylep> synaptic says i have installed it. will try FoxitReader in terminal. thanks for your patience
[03:00] <johnnylep> command not found
[03:00] <holstein> johnnylep: no worries... its actually not trivial to install something *not* in the repos
[03:01] <holstein> johnnylep: you have a capital F and R ?
[03:01] <holstein> *exactly* like i have it there?
[03:01] <holstein> m@apollo:~$ FoxitReader
[03:01] <johnnylep> yes
[03:01] <holstein> ^ that launches it for me...
[03:02] <holstein> well, go back to synaptic or however you feel comfortable uninstalling it
[03:02] <johnnylep> exactly the same as you, but it wont launch
[03:03] <holstein> get that package removed, and then we are going to add this PPA
[03:03] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~ed10vi86/+archive/ppa/+index?field.series_filter=
[03:03] <holstein> i'll talk you through it
[03:04] <holstein> johnnylep: unless you want to just use evince ??
[03:04] <johnnylep> thanks again Holstein.  question 2.....how to remove it?
[03:05] <johnnylep> evince? is that a pdf reader? i have been using foxit because it allows me to enter bookmarks and comments in a pdf which can then be read by my mindmapping software, sciplore.
[03:05] <holstein> johnnylep: i would suggest using synaptic, its graphical, and you found it there before
[03:06] <holstein> just find it, and remove it, and let me know...
[03:06] <johnnylep> ok, give me a couple of minutes
[03:08] <johnnylep> removed. wow....i'm really liking ubuntu
[03:09] <holstein> johnnylep: OK, just to make sure, delete the package you dowloaded, and open a terminal
[03:09] <johnnylep> ok, terminal is open
[03:10] <holstein> type cd /home/YOU/Downloads
[03:10] <holstein> then
[03:10] <holstein> wget http://mirrors.foxitsoftware.com/pub/foxit/reader/desktop/linux/1.x/1.1/enu/FoxitReader_1.1.0_i386.deb
[03:11] <holstein> ^ just copy and paste
[03:12] <johnnylep> bash: cd: /home/YOU/Downloads: No such file or directory
[03:12] <holstein> yeah, replace YOU with your username
[03:12] <johnnylep> ahhhhh....
[03:13] <holstein> john
[03:13] <holstein> cd /home/john/Downloads
[03:13] <holstein> THEN that wget command
[03:15] <johnnylep> bash: cd/home/john/Downloads: No such file or directory
[03:15] <holstein> right
[03:15] <holstein> cd is a command
[03:15] <holstein> you'll need a space after it
[03:15] <holstein> so..
[03:15] <holstein> cd /home/john/Downloads
[03:16] <holstein> cd = change directory, and /Downloads is the directory
[03:16] <johnnylep> john@jr-nec:~/Downloads$
[03:16] <holstein> * you can also use that little ~ like this
[03:16] <holstein> cd ~/Downloads
[03:17] <holstein> anyways, now the wget command
[03:17] <johnnylep> thank you. i'm learning lots - you can probably guess my age is pre-computers......
[03:17] <holstein> wget says download this, and the URL tell it what to get
[03:17] <holstein> johnnylep: no worries... i got some time right now anyways
[03:18] <holstein> im surprised that it didnt work before, so i want to step you through exactly what i did
[03:18] <holstein> just to be sure*
[03:18] <holstein> you should get a confirmation that it downloaded... right?
[03:20] <johnnylep> downloaded, done
[03:20] <holstein> cool... now
[03:20] <holstein> sudo dpkg -i FoxitReader_1.1.0_i386.deb
[03:20] <holstein> report any errors, otherwise at the promt try...
[03:20] <holstein> FoxitReader
[03:22] <johnnylep> it asked for my password. entered it and got 'dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process'
[03:23] <holstein> AH
[03:23] <holstein> johnnylep: yeah, close synaptic
[03:23] <holstein> and anything else like that , updater or software center
[03:24] <holstein> then try again...
[03:25] <johnnylep> it started unpacking, got to 'Processing triggers for python-support ...' and then returned to 'john@jr-nec:~/Downloads$'
[03:25] <holstein> cool
[03:26] <johnnylep> oh good
[03:26] <holstein> try FoxitReader now
[03:27] <johnnylep> voila.  Holstein, you're a star. many, many thanks
[03:27] <holstein> johnnylep: :)
[03:27] <holstein> heres something else interesting for you for the future
[03:27] <holstein> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/super_os?dist=natty
[03:27] <holstein> ^ theres mention of a PPA that might interest you... i havent tried it so i cant say
[03:27] <johnnylep> i buy you a bottle of the holstein if i could
[03:28] <holstein> if you just want to glance and it and bookmark it for later, thats cool :)
[03:28] <holstein> johnnylep: :)
[03:31] <johnnylep> just had a look.  the words are familiar but a bit complex at the moment. i'm still trying to figure my way through the repository systems.
[03:31] <johnnylep> are you in the mood to help me set up my 2nd monitor? i've tried and lost the battle
[03:31] <holstein> as a rule, i like to try and install from the repo, then i look for a PPA, then i try looking for a .deb
[03:31] <holstein> then, its build on your own
[03:32] <holstein> that PPA has a ton of stuff in it though
[03:32] <holstein> that many pacakges can really have an effect, maybe a negative one... there a purge-ppa command though
[03:32] <holstein> anyways... what graphics card johnnylep ?
[03:32] <holstein> nvidia
[03:33] <johnnylep> i need to have a good read on PPA, it's a new area for me
[03:33] <johnnylep> not sure
[03:33] <johnnylep> is there an easy way to find out?
[03:33] <johnnylep> find out graphic card, that is
[03:35] <holstein> johnnylep: in the terminal, run
[03:35] <holstein> lspci -v
[03:35] <holstein> you'll see a BUNCH of stuff, in there is your graphics card.. one of the entries
[03:35] <holstein> johnnylep: hey, this'll be good practice for you...
[03:36] <holstein> copy and paste that to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link it to me :)
[03:36] <johnnylep> ..... i entered 'lspci -v' nothing happened...
[03:36] <holstein> yeah?
[03:36] <holstein> what about just lspci
[03:37] <johnnylep> i left school just as computers appeared, so my background knowledge on this is really poor. i've been hoping for years to find a reason to learn it. ubuntu does that.
[03:38] <johnnylep> nothing
[03:38] <holstein> to be honest, ive been using linux for years now, and i just recently finally got a dual head setup
[03:38] <holstein> im not sure if i got smarter, or if it just got a lot easier ;)
[03:38] <holstein> anyways... close that terminal, and open another one
[03:38] <holstein> and try
[03:39] <holstein> lspci -v
[03:39] <holstein> copy and paste it from ^^
[03:40] <johnnylep> that worked
[03:40] <holstein> OK, try pasting that for me at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:40] <johnnylep> ok, i'll paste it to you.....
[03:42] <johnnylep> http://paste.ubuntu.com/625589/
[03:42] <holstein> OK... Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) is what we are interested in...
[03:43] <johnnylep> ok, i am learning a lot
[03:44] <holstein> johnnylep: this is ubuntu 11.04?
[03:44] <holstein> your using unity?
[03:44] <johnnylep> classic. i wasn't getting on with unity
[03:45] <johnnylep> 11.04 yes
[03:45] <holstein> cool... in the menu...
[03:45] <holstein> system - preferences - monitors
[03:45] <holstein> try starting that with a monitor plugged in
[03:45] <holstein> you should see it there
[03:46] <holstein> you might even want to reboot the machine with the monitor plugged
[03:46] <holstein> sometimes it can be fiddly
[03:46] <holstein> intel hardware is usually well supported however
[03:48] <johnnylep> ok, i'm about to start monitor 2.  i've had various attempts at it previously. I can get it as a mirror screen, but not a second, independent screen. it also throws about my resolution, shrinks my screen and generally gets weird.
[03:48] <johnnylep> will try it now
[03:48] <holstein> OK... let me look for a bug then
[03:49] <holstein> this looks promising http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1104187.html
[03:52] <holstein> johnnylep: i feel like thats something that could be hacked at and made to work... but i think i would need to spend some time in front of it
[03:52] <holstein> thats the kind of thing that would be great for a LUG meeting...
[03:53] <johnnylep> it picked the second monitor up. it displays the cursor when i track across it, but when trying to move an application onto it, it hangs
[03:53] <holstein> johnnylep: cool, that sounds like progess then :)
[03:53] <johnnylep> i've had a read around some forums etc and know it is a problem for many people
[03:53] <holstein> johnnylep: i would try and keep up with updates, and maybe file, or follow a bug
[03:54] <holstein> johnnylep: are you using compiz?
[03:54] <johnnylep> will do.
[03:54] <johnnylep> compiz?
[03:54] <holstein> compiz crashes on all my intel hardware when i use a 2nd monitor
[03:54] <holstein> johnnylep: fancy 3d effects*
[03:55] <johnnylep> not intentionally
[03:55] <johnnylep> - i'm not using compiz intentionally
[03:55] <holstein> well, you can find that by right clicking on the desktop, and going to 'change desktop backgound'
[03:55] <johnnylep> i don't need 3d
[03:55] <holstein> theres a visual effects tab
[03:56] <holstein> make sure thats set to 'none'
[03:57] <johnnylep> my machine has gone ultra-slow.... will reboot. back in 3 mins
[04:17] <john> hi Holstein, are you still there?
[04:17] <holstein> o/
[04:18] <john> sorry, my machine crashed. then crashed again.
[04:18] <holstein> whats the good news?... compiz was on, and now that its off, all is well?
[04:18] <john> i've discovered that if i plug in a second monitor and reboot, it knocks out my wireless card....
[04:19] <holstein> wow, thats nasty
[04:19] <john> i've tried compiz but have no tab for visual effects
[04:19] <holstein> john: if i were you, i would download ubuntu 10.04, and try it live (without installing)
[04:19] <holstein> see if the graphics situation is improved
[04:19] <holstein> other than that, it sounds like a nast bug...
[04:21] <holstein> im only finding older forum posts about that hardware
[04:22] <john> ok, i'll give 10.04 a try and see how. many, many thanks for all of your help Holstein
[04:22] <holstein> john: anytime... let us know how the battle goes :)
[04:22] <john> will. do thanks again
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[14:38] <raubvogel> How do you start/stop the heimdal kerberos server on ubuntu 10.10?
[14:38] <raubvogel> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/kerberos.html seems to cover the MIT one
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[17:50] <Core_UK> whats a solid alternative to mspaint?
[17:50] <Olson> hello.. how can I change the way apache reports on a blank page, I mean at the moment it look something like this at the bottom:  "Apache/2.2.17 (Ubuntu) Server at my.ip.net Port 80"  I want to customise that bit of text please
[17:53] <Olson> Core_UK, kolourpaint4 is almost exactly the same as MS paint
[17:54] <Olson> maybe xpaint ?
[17:55] <Core_UK> kolor sounds like qt :)
[17:55] <Core_UK> prefer gtk
[17:57] <escott> Core_UK, gimp?
[17:57] <Olson> kolorpaint is KDE app so.. maybe try xpaint.. it's not very pretty though
[17:57] <Core_UK> escott: gimp is like a meal, when I want a snack :P
[18:22] <bobweaver> hi there you guys I have a couple of quick questions about ppa they wok as mirrors of ftp and sftp ? i am really new to all of this and any help would be great thanks.
[18:30] <bobweaver> how about a link on understanding debian packages ?
[18:43] <nlsthzn-work> bobweaver: :/ slow day it seems... there is always #ubuntu if you feel really brave (if I could help you I would)
[18:45] <bobweaver> nlsthzn-work, hi again I think that I am trying to take in to much to fast but I found the developers channel on youtube and have down loaded some pdf's from ubunutuwiki
[18:46] <bobweaver> looking for a a debian packaging book
[18:46] <nlsthzn-work> bobweaver: awesome... when you understand it all be sure to come back and be ready to help the next guy that finds only me online :p
[18:46] <bobweaver> lol
[19:26] <A_J> pedro3005,
[19:26] <pedro3005> you called?
[19:27] <A_J> not a support question or anything, do you use pedro's ?
[19:27] <pedro3005> pedro's what?
[19:28] <A_J> pedros BT music
[19:28] <pedro3005> I have no idea what that is
[19:29] <A_J> nvm then
[19:31] <sw0rdfish> !upgrade
[19:31] <ubot2> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[19:59] <kristian-aalborg> proper command to run bleachbit as root is gksu bleachbit, right?
[20:01] <bioterror> gksudo
[20:02] <Core_UK> gksudo is for graphical programs
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[20:58] <kristian-aalborg> ah, yes... gksudo is what I meant
[20:59] <kristian-aalborg> it took forever and killed my browser, so I was worried I'd screwed up
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[22:12] <clarkthehardy910> 11.04 Live USB on XP desktop AMD machine getting boot error after verifying dmi pool data.... I've enabled USB as primary boot drive and have removable disks enabled in BIOS, any ideas?
[22:12] <clarkthehardy910> I'm a total newb to this
[22:12] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: lets talk about what you have going on
[22:12] <holstein> you have XP installed correct?
[22:13] <holstein> by itself... and you have not installed linux?
[22:13] <clarkthehardy910> yeah, a very crappy one, some chinese ghost version, that I've been dealing with for a while
[22:13] <clarkthehardy910> I mean up all night
[22:14] <clarkthehardy910> yeah, I'm chatting with you through my netbook dell mini came with ubuntu Hardy
[22:14] <holstein> and what are you trying to do? boot ubuntu from USB ?
[22:14] <clarkthehardy910> yeah, so that I can use gparted and then create a dual boot
[22:14] <clarkthehardy910> wubi wont start
[22:14] <clarkthehardy910> its a very poorly tweaked windows xp with lots of junkware on it
[22:15] <clarkthehardy910> I've tried to uninstall a lot and get antivirus on it
[22:15] <clarkthehardy910> its got a dvdrom, but can't get my hands on a burner at the moment, so stuck with usb
[22:16] <clarkthehardy910> so I've got a netbook, and a refurbed acer desktop in China, using AMD chipset
[22:16] <holstein> well, lets do this
[22:16] <holstein> XP doesnt have anything to do with that
[22:16] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[22:16] <holstein> IF you want, you can unplug that hard drive, and boot a DVD, or USB stick assuming the machine can boot USB
[22:16] <clarkthehardy910> holstein: thanks for helping, I'll follow your comand
[22:16] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: o/
[22:17] <clarkthehardy910> yeah, apparently it can, but it thinks its a removable hdd
[22:17] <clarkthehardy910> i think
[22:17] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: you cant think
[22:17] <clarkthehardy910> Im on bios right now
[22:17] <holstein> you have to know
[22:17] <kristian-aalborg> installed fluxbox.... I have it start with a fullscreen terminal... then I'm aliasing all my apps with "alias foo='foo > dev/null &'
[22:17] <kristian-aalborg> am I a genius?
[22:17] <holstein> you can waste hours on that, trying to get it to boot USB
[22:17] <clarkthehardy910> well, there's no one around with a cd burner
[22:17] <clarkthehardy910> so im stuck
[22:17] <kristian-aalborg> clarkthehardy910, what's the problem?
[22:18] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: of course you are... not sure its thats indicative though ;)
[22:18] <clarkthehardy910> I'm in China, and its 5 am in the morning
[22:18] <clarkthehardy910> and I got to get this going, so I can work on my presentation
[22:18] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: google the hardware, and see if it boots USB
[22:18] <clarkthehardy910> it does
[22:18] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: yeah? you said 'i think'
[22:18] <clarkthehardy910> I can tell its booting because it identifies the USB
[22:18] <clarkthehardy910> no
[22:18] <clarkthehardy910> I said it thinks
[22:18] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: nah, thats not an indications
[22:18] <clarkthehardy910> the bios identifies it in the HDD section
[22:18] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: nah, thats not an indication*
[22:19] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: doesnt matter
[22:19] <holstein> i have a p3 laptop that sees those too
[22:19] <clarkthehardy910> oh
[22:19] <clarkthehardy910> ok
[22:19] <holstein> anyways, IF you can confirm that it boots USB, then i would unplug the hard drive
[22:19] <holstein> SO, you can forcefully poweroff and not break it*
[22:20] <holstein> then, look at the image you downloaded... check the MD5 sum
[22:20] <holstein> reformat the stick
[22:20] <holstein> try making the bootable media again
[22:20] <clarkthehardy910> holstein: thanks, I'll start searching for this motherboard to see if it boots
[22:21] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: you can also test if the USB media is good by booting it on the mini
[22:22] <clarkthehardy910> I know, I thought about that, I guess I should do that, no chance that it will screw up my mini? I like how it is, and its my only decent configuration
[22:23] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: there is zero change the *it* will screw up your mini
[22:23] <holstein> YOU on the other hand, can :)
[22:23] <holstein> so be carefully
[22:23] <holstein> so be careful*
[22:23] <clarkthehardy910> ok, thanks
[22:23] <holstein> dont do anything you arent comfortable doing
[22:24] <clarkthehardy910> I'll be back
[22:24] <holstein> you can do it all from the other box too
[22:36] <clarkthehardy910> holstein: also got a boot error on the netbook...is it a real indication that somethings wrong with the boot usb
[22:36] <clarkthehardy910> or is the architecture wrong
[22:37] <clarkthehardy910> I followed the instructions on the ubuntu.com/download page
[22:37] <clarkthehardy910> for making a bootable usb pin drive
[22:38] <clarkthehardy910> using the newest desktop version 11.04 32-bit
[22:38] <clarkthehardy910> holstein: are you still available to follow up?
[22:44] <holstein> clarkthehardy910: sorry. BIAB
[22:44] <clarkthehardy910> holstein: OK =)
[23:50] <clarkthehardy910> Ubuntu display settings are out of range for my dated monitor. I've just installed it, and can't figure out how to get into grub, can someone help me? On 1st reboot from wubi.exe, ubuntu loaded to finish install, I saw the screen and everything, but now after second reboot, I can't see anything past the boot screen (in Ubuntu)
[23:51] <clarkthehardy910> ive tried the grub 2 guide, but shift doesnt work, neither does esc
[23:52] <clarkthehardy910> when I hold down shift, I get options for windows...can't tell for sure, because its in Chinese (windows is a hopeless Chinese tweak of ghost and xp), can't wait to use g-parted and get rid of it
[23:54] <clarkthehardy910> any help: first reboot after complete installation, my monitor is reporting: Attention Out of Range H:92.5KHz V:58.2Hz??????
[23:54] <clarkthehardy910> thanks in advance