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Fudgeyhi guys, last two builds of shredder causes orca to not be able to read the folder contents00:56
micahgFudgey: thunderbird trunk?00:57
Fudgeyyes00:57
Fudgeythunderbird-trunk                     7.0~a1~hg20110611r7926+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty  Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter00:58
micahgFudgey: unfortunately, I'm a little out of the loop WRT trunk builds and what's working00:59
Fudgeyi downgraded to thunderbird-trunk_7.0~a1~hg20110605r7885+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty_i386.deb01:04
Fudgeythunderbird-trunk_7.0~a1~hg20110608r7905+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty_i386.deb01:04
Fudgeynow the folders read correctly01:04
micahgFudgey: both of those work?01:07
Fudgeyyou test with orca did you micahg ?01:10
Fudgeythe latest one i posted was not reading folder contents, until  i hit enter on an email no tknowing what it was and  then the window appeared reading it, downgraded and the folder items are read out.01:10
micahgFudgey: you posted 3 versions one from June 5, June 8, and June 11, I was wondering which was the last one that worked01:13
Fudgeymicahg  sorry thunderbird-trunk                     7.0~a1~hg20110605r7885+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty02:03
micahgFudgey: k02:27
Fudgeytks02:27
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micahgFudgey: unfortunately, I don't see anything offhand that would be causing your issue03:52
micahgFudgey: if tonights build doesn't fix it, please come back tomorrow and we'll get a bug filed somewhere03:53
Fudgeymicahg  can do that mate, thanks05:45
Fudgeyhow long till the next build is available, im on australia time05:45
micahgoh, looks like one was published 7 hours ago05:57
Fudgeysame problem micahg06:23
micahg:(06:23
Fudgey7.0~a1~hg20110612r7932+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty06:24
micahgchrisccoulson: when you get in, could you suggest to Fudgey if a bug should be filed directly upstream for this?06:41
chrisccoulsonFudgey, is it easy for someone who doesn't normally use orca to reproduce this regression?09:46
chrisccoulsonie, are there an easy set of steps to reproduce?09:46
ftachrisccoulson, are you aware of the all the mozilla certs in ca-certificates?11:06
fta...causing me pain: bug 79183911:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 791839 in bzr "bzr: ERROR: exceptions.UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte ..ordinal not in range " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79183911:07
chrisccoulsonfta - what do you want to know about ca-certs?11:33
chrisccoulsonFudgey, are you around?11:33
ftachrisccoulson, cleaner filenames ;)11:39
chrisccoulsonFudgey, ok, i'm stuck. everything seems to work as expected here. i'd like to do a hg bisect on this ASAP if there is an issue, but i need more pointers to what i'm meant to be looking for :)11:54
Fudgeychrisccoulson  sorry mate was out for tea12:25
Fudgeydo you have orca installed?12:25
chrisccoulsonFudgey, yeah12:25
Fudgeywhen you arrow down in a folder the sender subject date are not read12:26
chrisccoulsonFudgey, hmm, that seems to be working here12:28
chrisccoulsonwhich ubuntu version are you using?12:29
Fudgeynatty12:29
Fudgeywhats your orca version12:30
chrisccoulsonFudgey, 3.1.112:30
Fudgeyim on orca 2.32.2 and also hae  3.10.0512:31
Fudgeyorca needs a output synth for text on screen isplay of what the synth is speaking12:31
Fudgeyi just downgraded from orca master branch as im not using gnome 312:32
Fudgeyso am now using the branch for * gnome-2-3212:32
chrisccoulsonFudgey, hmm. i'll try on natty in a bit, but you might be better off reporting it upstream for now (specifying which build stopped working)12:33
Fudgeyit was from two builds ago it started, i noticed straight away of course :D this is a pretty fresh natty install as ive been doign a lot of vinux builds ready for release12:34
Fudgeywhere upstream would i report it?12:39
Fudgeyis there a bugs.mozilla.org12:39
Fudgeyim sure it will get resolved12:43
chrisccoulsonFudgey, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/12:47
Fudgeytks chris12:47
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chrisccoulsonnice, just fixed a whole bunch of our jsreftest failures in one go14:59
m_conleychrisccoulson: ping15:46
chrisccoulsonhi m_conley15:47
m_conleychrisccoulson: hello!  How are you?15:47
chrisccoulsonm_conley, good thanks, how are you?15:47
m_conleychrisccoulson: good, but busy.  You know how it is.  :)15:47
m_conleychrisccoulson: I was wondering if you'd had a chance to bundle my extensions with TB-next?15:47
chrisccoulsonm_conley, yeah, that's definitely going to happen this week :)15:48
chrisccoulsonm_conley, are we going to get another beta this week?15:48
chrisccoulsoni'd like to do everything in one upload if possible :)15:48
m_conleychrisccoulson: hrm - I thought you'd get it last week....that's when it was scheduled, I believe...15:48
chrisccoulsonheh15:48
chrisccoulsonno worries15:48
ftagrrr, not sure if it's a vim regression in oneiric or something else but i now have to properly escape before moving location within a file, like old vi from 20y+ ago15:54
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micahgfta: yes, unfortunately, ca-certs is a manual process of updating certs shared from NSS17:50
ftamicahg, imho, bzr is broken, but it seems i'm not able to convince the devs. at the same time, certs filenames could be nicer17:55
micahgfta: yeah, bzr is broke for me as well on oneiric and I've filed a bug, I guess I should poke harder to get it fixed17:55
micahgfta: the cert names in ca-certs are very verbose17:56
ftai don't now why but every single time i file about about something related to canonical, they ignore me. launchpad, translations, bzr, the kernel, unity, bafm17:58
ftait's depressing :(17:59
fta+a bug17:59
mdeslaurfta: dude, didn't I ask you to file a bug about pam and it got fixed the next day?17:59
ftais it? i had to add a logcheck exception this morning as i was sick of getting hourly emails with hundreds of pam lines18:01
fta(and pam was not in my list btw)18:01
mdeslaurfta: oh, sorry, the update didn't get pushed yet18:04
mdeslaurfta: ok, carry on :)18:04
ftai don't have much more to say, i'm just wondering why it is like this18:08
ftachrisccoulson, is it the same in ff? bug 79668918:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 796689 in chromium-browser "Places menu entries not fully integrated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79668918:51
chrisccoulsonfta - yeah, there's already a bug report for that though. it was reported years ago initially ;)19:37
bhearsumis there a ppa for Thunderbird builds out of mozilla-aurora?19:37
ftachrisccoulson, is this a bug in gtk or is that something apps have controls over?19:42
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, no thunderbird builds from the aurora channel yet. are there actually mozilla.org builds of that now? if so, i will start ours too19:43
chrisccoulsoni've been waiting, as i didn't want to start creating aurora builds before anyone else ;)19:43
bhearsumhmm, i thought there was, but apparently not!19:43
chrisccoulsonfta - the application needs to actually use the API (ie, it needs to be able to open ftp and smb URI's via gio and read/write data from/to them)19:44
chrisccoulsonthere's already a firefox patch to do this, but it's sitting in bugzilla atm19:45
ftaok, thanks19:45
chrisccoulson(it's just the gio reimplementation of the old gnomevfs bits)19:45
chrisccoulsonbhearsum, heh. i'll start creating builds once there are some on ftp.mozilla.org ;)19:45
bhearsumsure19:46
* bhearsum goes to find out why we don't have any yet!19:46
chrisccoulsoni think they're probably trying to get another beta out ;)19:49
bhearsumyou must be physic19:49
bhearsum[14:48] <bhearsum> any reason why you waited?19:49
bhearsum[14:48] <Standard8> we wanted to get 5.0 beta out first19:49
chrisccoulsonheh :)19:49
bhearsumhe also said they hope to start aurora builds this week, so that's cool19:49
chrisccoulsonexcellent. i should probably try one locally tonight just to make sure it works :)19:50
chrisccoulsonoh, aurora has been quiet today. there's nothing for me to build for the second night in a row :)19:54
bhearsumguess it's getting pretty stable!19:55
chrisccoulsonyeah, i've switched my beta install to aurora now, until the next beta anyway19:55
chrisccoulsonalthough i only really use the nightly atm19:56
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chrisccoulsonhmmm, bug 796758 is concerning seeing as that user actually has the up-to-date language packs installed and they don't have the addon compatibility reporter :/20:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 796758 in firefox "Erro no processamento de XML: entidade não definida" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79675820:14
ftabackporting gcc is taking longer than i excepted, many missing build-deps, and it takes 9h to build :P20:24
ftai'm not even sure it will help20:24
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ftamicahg, did you try to reproduce your ogg bug in M14?21:46
micahgfta: no, not yet21:47
micahgI can do that a bit later21:47
ftai tried, it worked21:47
ftaat least as file:///21:47
micahgboth autostart and the blue?21:47
ftawell, i got the totem plugin21:48
ftai didn't run the script though21:48
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ftawth is http://netbook-remix.archive.canonical.com/updates/pool/public/c/chromium-webfav/ ?22:15
chrisccoulsonfta - it's an extension which allows you to bookmark sites in the old UNE launcher22:16
chrisccoulsonthere's an equivalent for firefox too22:16
chrisccoulsoni guess nobody uses that now though ;)22:16
ftaweird i never heard about it22:16
ftai even used UNR/UNE at some point22:17
fta!info liferea22:19
micahgfta: just tried on oneiric, but html5 is broke in oneiric :)22:29
ftamicahg, https://code.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/channels still stuck :(22:34
BUGabundoLinux  3.0-0-generic #1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 9 16:32:10 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:34
ftaBUGabundo, useless, just another version bump :)22:35
BUGabundoahahahah22:35
BUGabundo(don't let linus hear y )22:35
ftahe should have done that long ago22:36
bhearsumdidn't ya hear? he wants to start competing with chrome and firefox version numbers ;)22:41
BUGabundoahahahaahaha22:43
chrisccoulsonhmmm, i'm wondering if i should update my machine?23:04
chrisccoulsonis anyone else using an up-to-date oneiric?23:04
ftai am23:04
chrisccoulsonhow broken is it? ;)23:04
chrisccoulsoni've not updated since last week23:04
ftaabout the same23:04
chrisccoulsonah, ok. i'll just go ahead and update then23:05
ftai just didn't try the last kernel23:05
ftait just popped up23:05
chrisccoulsonhmmm, looks like i've got an entire mono stack to update23:06
chrisccoulsonthat's take a few days ;)23:06
chrisccoulson"Need to get 887MB of archives"23:07
chrisccoulsonso, basically, i'm downloading an entire new ISO + some more23:07
chrisccoulsoni may as well just reinstall ;)23:07
ftamost problably tons of -dbg23:07
ftai dropped 240 last week23:07
chrisccoulsonyou're right. nearly half of that is chromium-dbg, firefox-dbg and thunderbird-dbg ;)23:08
ftachrisccoulson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/626181/23:09
ftai keep libc6-dbg for valgrind23:09
chrisccoulsonheh, handy. thanks!23:09
ftai often have tons dbgsym because i now retrace manually with apport-retrace23:10
fta+of23:17
chrisccoulsonhmmm, it seems like i really did break gxine23:20
ftahm, just upgraded the kernel, dkms failed on nvidia-current23:23
BUGabundo3.0 working her23:23
BUGabundo*here23:23
BUGabundowith nouveau23:23
fta3.0.0.0.123:24
BUGabundotooo many ones23:25
fta*sigh* it just says [fail], clueless23:25
BUGabundo  Installed: 3.0-0.123:25
ftayep, but Setting up linux-image-generic (3.0.0.0.1) ...23:26
micahgchrisccoulson: it's more broke?23:58

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